
Wyatt Cenac (The Daily Show) helps Paul, Jason, & June dive into the 1993 Stallone/Snipes sci-fi classic Demolition Man! LIVE from SubCulture in NYC, they cover the frozen Sylvester Stallone cube, the slang of the future, the possibility that Wesley Snipes improvised every line, Denis Leary’s rant, and seashell wiping. Get ready for some spot-on Stallone/Snipes impressions! (Originally Released 07/09/2013)
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Paul Scheer
In the future, we're all pussies. Thank goodness. Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes are gonna blow shit up. And fuck the future women. We saw Demolition man, so you know what that means. Now it's time for failure.
Wyatt Cenac
Not just being hater.
Paul Scheer
Cause you may wonder.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let's swallow in the mediocrity of subpar art.
Paul Scheer
Perhaps we'll find the answer. The question how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth.
Wyatt Cenac
Whoa.
Paul Scheer
Holy cow. Hello, New York. We are live at Subculture. We're in a beautiful space here on Bleecker Street. We have an amazing show for you. But first, let me introduce my two co hosts. Please welcome June Diane Rayfield and Jason Mandougas. Very special guest here tonight. Please welcome Wyatt Sinek. Welcome, everybody. Demolition Man, a movie made 1993 posits a world that 1996 shit has gone terribly wrong. The opening of this movie, this is like a weird cliche that bugs me. It's like the Hollywood sign is just on fire.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer
And it feels to me like the filmmaker's like, oh, yeah. It's always on fire.
June Diane Raphael
It's not like, yeah. Because there wasn't like a Fire in the hills. No, like, nothing else around it was on fire.
Paul Scheer
Like lighter fluid.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Well, I feel like every year, at least when I lived in la, there was always. This is the year that the Hollywood sign is going to be torn down and people would fight to save it. And it's like, if you watch all these movies. No, don't. Nobody wants it. No, nobody wants it.
June Diane Raphael
Let her go.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, these clearly. These politicians are like, no, I've seen Demolition man in, like, 800 other movies where this sign gets burned down. You guys don't want it. We get the message.
June Diane Raphael
We hear you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Also, why are our politicians watching Demolition?
Paul Scheer
The best politics that happened in the 80s, most of Clinton's administration was made off of Sylvester Stallone, Joel Silver, almost.
Jason Mantzoukas
Almost all of Antonio Villaragosa's campaign promises were from demolition man.
Wyatt Cenac
Prop 8 was demolition man.
Jason Mantzoukas
Guys, Prop 8 is dead. Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Right. And you know. You know why? Because the Demolition man came in and destroyed it. Lit it on fire.
Paul Scheer
I thought that DOMA was like, Demolition Man. Like, it was the. I don't know what the O stand.
Wyatt Cenac
For, but the D and the M. Yep, absolutely.
Paul Scheer
So in 1996, things are bad. So bad that one of the. The airline, one of the helicopter police pilots goes like, hey, remember when they used to let commercial airlines land in Los Angeles? Like that. What about when the city was on fire? Like, that's like. That's the one thing he's regretting. Like, oh, man. Remember that? When commercial airlines would land here. That's a weird thing. All right, I bought that.
June Diane Raphael
Well, by the way, in that first scene, when Stallone throws a rope down and just. Oh, yeah, shimmies down to the ground.
Jason Mantzoukas
He doesn't shimmy. He jumps out of the back of a helicopter and yells, with Phoenix.
June Diane Raphael
First he says he's crazy.
Jason Mantzoukas
Send a maniac to catch one. Then he jumps out screaming, phoenix.
Paul Scheer
Phoenix.
Wyatt Cenac
I'm sky fucking you.
June Diane Raphael
So at this point in the movie, though, you don't really know who Phoenix is. Like, where Phoenix is. So to just see him yelling, screaming.
Paul Scheer
Phoenix, well, that is, like, the problem, the beginning of this movie, which is he runs out, he does like, basically the world's best bungee jump, and then immediately goes into killing mode. Like, before he lands, like, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's the thing is he bungees out and he never goes back up. He bungees out to the ground and is like, click, click. He just jumped like, half a mile.
Paul Scheer
He lands and he misses no one. And then proceeds to have a mental knowledge of this abandoned warehouse. As if he is still studied it his entire life. It was like, ah, yeah, it's like going to mom's house. I know this like. And meanwhile it's revealed that like he's been chasing Phoenix for two years and he finally found this place. So this is the first time there was no recon on this building.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no. He lands on the ground, shoots everybody. And as if he is like has the map in his head, goes like. And like Wesley Snipes is like, boop. Wait, what? And then Stallone is like, ah, I'm here now, I got you. And I was like, at what point is Wesley Snipes not like there are like 400 dudes that I feel like should be guarding me. But you got through all of them instantly.
Paul Scheer
Basically the beginning of Demolition man is the end of an awesome movie that we did not see.
Wyatt Cenac
And I want to see the two years where like Wesley Snipes moves to la, then somehow works his way up.
Jason Mantzoukas
In the LA underworld where his family is murdered. And so having nothing to live for, he takes to a life of crime.
Wyatt Cenac
Then builds a wall all around LA set on fire.
Paul Scheer
He goes to that beauty shop, gets his hair dyed blonde. One of my favorite moments too is like, he's like, where are those people on the bus? And he's like, and Wesley Snipes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Cuz Wesley Snipes has kidnapped, has abducted a bus full of regular people.
Paul Scheer
And he's like, I told bus drivers don't come into la, but those bus drivers all listen.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's like that is their job.
Paul Scheer
Your beef is with the bus drivers of Los Angeles.
Jason Mantzoukas
And by the way, they're just doing their job, guys. Yeah, they are just shepherding us from place to place in the most humiliating.
Wyatt Cenac
Vehicle known to man.
Paul Scheer
These bus drivers, like that's Wesley Snipes anger. He talks so vehemently about these bus drivers. Like they can't come in here. It's like why? What? Like they're not threatening your drug empire, they're just dropping people off. I don't know why they would even want to be dropped off in a city that is on fire. But if they want to, they're doing the job.
Wyatt Cenac
Also, he's a guy, he's clearly wasteful because very early on you see him do one line of coke but leave two behind. Just like, these are fine. I'm going to come back to you.
June Diane Raphael
Guys when I'm ready.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, you don't go stale.
Jason Mantzoukas
How about this? At a certain point when Stallone is entering and Wesley SNIPE Wesley Snipes realizes Stallone is gonna enter. He punctures these gasoline tanks. So there's gasoline all over the ground. Right? And so Stallone comes in, he's like, I got you. Or whatever he says. Right, Whatever he says, relax, Everybody relax. And then Wesley Snipes is like, ha, you're standing in gasoline. Lights a cigarette and then says. What does he say? Something about like, you're gonna go up in flames or whatever. Some one liner.
Wyatt Cenac
Then he, oh, he says, it's cold in here.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah, let's turn up the heat or something. Throws the cigarette, flames erupt everywhere.
Paul Scheer
Okay, but he's also standing in flames.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Okay, so he's standing in gasoline. So flames are like. Right. All Stallone does, the only thing that happens to Stallone is he drops his gun. He's like, oh, that's hot.
Paul Scheer
The steel got so hot in my hand.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, God.
Jason Mantzoukas
But then he just jumps right out of it.
Wyatt Cenac
Jumps onto us.
Jason Mantzoukas
They're fighting. Nobody's on fire.
June Diane Raphael
But.
Jason Mantzoukas
But I'm burned.
June Diane Raphael
Did the gun get caught in the flames and then it got too hot to hold? Or did he just get scared and throw that gun down? Cause that's what it looked like.
Jason Mantzoukas
I hope it's b.
June Diane Raphael
It looked like he just, like freaked.
Wyatt Cenac
There's a what? That's what you don't see when he's in the helicopter flying past the Hollywood sign burning is that he's like, oh, can't look, can't look, can't look, can't look. Tell me when we pass the fire sign. Tell me when we pass the fireside.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would love it if there's a. If in this movie. There was a thread that is like fire is his snakes to Indiana Jones. Why did it have to be fire?
Paul Scheer
He's part. He's part Frankenstein monster and he's afraid of fire. Move is basically like a football player's tackle. It's just sort of like just lunges at a guy. He has guns and he has knives on him, but it's just a tackle.
Wyatt Cenac
But he also, I realize, like, he does a lot in that movie of the sideways jump and shoot action.
Paul Scheer
Before John Woo. It's like it was pre John Woo, but that.
Wyatt Cenac
It seems like for the 90s, like the three point stance thing that we see in movies now was that's what it used to be. Sideways, like goosh, goosh, goosh.
June Diane Raphael
One leg up.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
The one thing I remember about this movie most clearly, and it's not even about the actual movie, is I used to go to Planet Hollywood all the time under the guise I would be like, dad, take me to Planet Hollywood. That's where the celebrities hang out. What? I was naive, but I also met Anthony Michael hall, so I was also right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, nice.
June Diane Raphael
Joke's on us.
Paul Scheer
Joke's on us.
Wyatt Cenac
Nice.
Jason Mantzoukas
I thought you said celebrities.
Paul Scheer
It was pre decade. Yeah, that's right.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm starting to beef with Anthony Michael Hall.
Paul Scheer
And I remember always wanting to eat under the naked Stallone Demolition man, because he gets frozen in this movie and it's like a block of bites, but it's like kind of just naked Stallone, really. And I just thought that was so cool. It's like, whoa. It's like he's in there.
Wyatt Cenac
Wait, and that was. That was at Planet Hollywood?
Paul Scheer
Yes. A big, like, giant, you guys. Okay. Like six by eight foot circle with like a Stallone dummy inside.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know what they should have done is they should have had a table that was that you should have been able to use that as a table.
Paul Scheer
And then when you would eat your fries, you could see his junk. Oh, yeah, got it.
Wyatt Cenac
I have a feeling that there is someone who has that now. And it is a table.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah, it is.
Paul Scheer
That would be the best table of all time, guys.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let's all chip in and get one of those.
Wyatt Cenac
Well. Cause once Planet Hollywood shut down, all that shit had to go somewhere.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Someone had to find Axel Foley's jacket.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure that they weren't like, hey, so Planet Hollywood shutting down Smithsonian. You guys. You guys want Stallone in. In ice?
Jason Mantzoukas
You guys want a bunch of garbage?
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, I mean, we're loading it up on the truck and driving it down to you guys. We were just giving you a heads up to move the Millennium Falcon.
Paul Scheer
The. There's a great line at the beginning of the movie said by the police chief in Lethal Weapon, who, like, there after, like, he captures Phoenix and he was like, hey, enough of this demolition man shit. Like, that Stallone's M.O. that he just demolishes stuff.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, very. Keep this in mind, okay. In the opening of this movie, upon capturing Phoenix, the entire building both explodes and crumbles to the ground, like, in seconds. And they get away and they walk out of that.
Paul Scheer
But if you were to understand why it was because Wesley Snipes punctured a couple cans of gasoline.
Wyatt Cenac
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
I thought it was also, like a chemical factory, guys.
Paul Scheer
Oh, all right. Maybe it was.
Jason Mantzoukas
That brings up something I really want to talk about, which is the events of September 11th.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, brother. Well, here's the crazy thing. Stallone goes to. To jail because the hostages were in the building. But nobody thinks to ask, like, wait, did they die now? Like, did they die from this explosion or were they shot in the head? Because we learned later on that they were dead. Major spoiler alert.
Jason Mantzoukas
Spoilers.
June Diane Raphael
They were. They had been killed by Phoenix. But by the way, how did he kill.
Paul Scheer
A very harsh sentence for a police officer capturing, like, the world, like, the world's worst, worst criminal. Like, yeah, he, like, that guy started the fire. All he did was knock him out of the window. And he's like, you're under arrest.
June Diane Raphael
He made a tough call. He made a tough call.
Paul Scheer
But it would. But it would be. But it would be like, in my opinion, it would be like, if Stallone said, fuck it, we'll blow up that building, then it would be a tough call. Wesley Snipes booked the building. He just escaped.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love you're going to jail. I love that you have injustice. You have a sense of, like, there is an injury. Injustice at the center of this movie. An American hero is tried and sentenced to jail.
Paul Scheer
He is the only man who could find.
Jason Mantzoukas
Phoenix tried to take down a terrorist. And in the. In the. In the. As a result, some innocents died. Those are lives lost in the service of a greater good.
Wyatt Cenac
But what makes it. What makes it. What makes it worse is the fact that Wesley Snipes, as he's being taken away, is like this. I told him. I told him there were people there. I told him there were people there. And he said he didn't care.
Paul Scheer
He didn't care.
Wyatt Cenac
That's witness testimony. Send him to ice cream.
Jason Mantzoukas
Amazing Wesley Snipes impression.
Paul Scheer
And then, like, but by the way, it's as if, like, the cops were like, yeah, we believe you. Wesley Snipes maniac who has taken over Los Angeles over a cop, like, who.
Wyatt Cenac
Is a hero, but also he's a maniac, too, because it takes a maniac to catch a maniac.
June Diane Raphael
Sure. That's true. That is true. Well done. Thanks for coming.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why it's an act, everybody. Why it's an actor.
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Paul Scheer
By the way, we've. We've only cracked into the first three minutes of this.
Jason Mantzoukas
By the way.
June Diane Raphael
I do have a question.
Paul Scheer
That's.
Jason Mantzoukas
The credits have not yet happened.
Wyatt Cenac
No.
Jason Mantzoukas
This movie has a cold open, so.
June Diane Raphael
But are we to understand that he's been sentenced to jail forever?
Paul Scheer
No, no.
Jason Mantzoukas
For 30 years.
Paul Scheer
Oh, 70.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm sorry.
Wyatt Cenac
I'm sorry.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. 70 years.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Wyatt Cenac
In the same jail that Scott Peterson was apparently frozen in.
Paul Scheer
Yes. I pulled up a screen. Grab that. As they're going through their records.
Jason Mantzoukas
I didn't catch this.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. As they're pulling up their records that we can. I can show you right here. This is all the people that are in jail.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, that's amazing.
Paul Scheer
Scott Peterson also had his parole hearing at 8:15, by the way. Why would they listen like that? It says 7am Hyde, Quentin, 8:15. Peterson, Scott, 7:30, Phoenix, Simon. It should be the other way around.
Wyatt Cenac
No, no, in the future.
Jason Mantzoukas
Evening. In the future, nothing happens in order.
Wyatt Cenac
That was an evening parole hearing. Like they kind of knew that the Scott Peterson one, he had a lot to talk about.
Paul Scheer
So they both get frozen. And this is before I think people even understood what cryogenics were because they basically put Stallone, Han Solo, like, in a cube and then fill it full of water. He seems to be choking.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, it is just. It is alarming sequence.
June Diane Raphael
It's a very disturbing sequel.
Paul Scheer
He's also naked. No need to be naked. There's no, like, real sign of like, life signs. Like he's drowned in what we're to believe, like oxen, oxygen, goo. Like, I don't. Like, there's. He's drowning. There's no way that he's.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, his lungs are filling with some sort of gloopy liquid. And then they drop like a freezer thing in and it all freezes. And he's like.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, it looks like a terrible way to get frozen. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Wyatt Cenac
They didn't say. So here's the thing. Just lay down and put your hands on top of your thighs. They were like, no, we're gonna put you in a weird hot tub thing and do whatever you want. Make a face. Do one of those guys. Whatever you want, however you want to be frozen. That's Your last choice. Like, that's the last thing.
Paul Scheer
Because he is swimming around in there. Like, he's like. Because there's a point with the. The water. The goop is filling up. He's like, whoa, hey, whoa. Something's like, it's so.
Jason Mantzoukas
And he also seems okay with it. The thing that really bothered me was that he wasn't like, hey, this isn't cool. Well, I'm a hero.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And when. And when someone.
Paul Scheer
I don't.
June Diane Raphael
I don't remember if it's Smithers. There's an officer named Smithers. When someone's telling him, like, what he's going to jail for and listing off, like, all them of the charges, he's just. He refuses to hear it and keeps on saying, skip it.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, skip.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, just skip.
June Diane Raphael
Skip it. As. But, but, but.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like we all said in 1983, skip.
Paul Scheer
But the vibe.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sorry.
Wyatt Cenac
Sorry.
June Diane Raphael
The vibe, though, is like, he's been down this road a million times. Like, he knows what's going to happen.
Paul Scheer
And even the parole officer was like, hey, man, real bummer. I hate to do this to you. I hate to free the for 70. But my job, like, he does say something like, I'm not.
Jason Mantzoukas
And apparently. And apparently that's, like, cool.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, no biggie.
Paul Scheer
And by the way. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Again. The first five minutes we are cracking into, I feel like Wesley Snipes is like, I'm not getting naked and you're not filling up a confined space with me.
Jason Mantzoukas
Although he's in that trailer you played. There is Wesley Snipes in ice, which we never see in the movie, Right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Maybe his trial was quick.
Jason Mantzoukas
Guys crack that code.
June Diane Raphael
When you're frozen, though, like, hair doesn't grow on your body and your body doesn't age at all.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's this now?
Wyatt Cenac
Well, he's got. He's got. He suffers from, like, below the ears alopecia. That's either below the ears alopecia or like, he went to a barber shop and had two different people working on him because he's got half of a box that's like, there's a fade that's not finished. And then he's like, you know what? Never mind. Diet. Diet. Just diet. Blonde diet.
Jason Mantzoukas
I got to get out of here. I got to get out of here. I got to commit heinous acts of terrorism.
Paul Scheer
He can't spend all day at the salon. We cut to 2032. Life has changed. It is big time.
Jason Mantzoukas
Apparently, we all dress like Nazis.
Paul Scheer
Yes. Nazis are extras.
Jason Mantzoukas
The police. The police.
Paul Scheer
Do extras in Star Trek Next Generation. It's like everyone's dressed like Dinan. Like, big, flowy dresses and, like, plates.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Welcome to Obama's America. They don't say phone. They call it fiber optic. I'll fiber optic you back, which is odd.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Because that doesn't even seem like.
Wyatt Cenac
No, they. Yeah, they've just added they because they've got no violence. They've like, we got time to kill, so let's. Let's just throw extra words. Homicide. No, it's a murder, death, kill.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Is this. Is this a. Is this a car I'm driving? No, it's a conveyance. Yeah, my conveyance is dry. We're getting in the conveyance and.
Paul Scheer
Murder, death, kill. I've thought about that a lot.
June Diane Raphael
Me, too.
Paul Scheer
Murder, death, death, kill. It's redundant. Murder. There's never a murder that doesn't end in death. So you can just rip the death out of there.
Jason Mantzoukas
Killing is also murder.
Paul Scheer
Yes. So you could just say kill, because that would imply death and murder. You could just say murder, which implies kill and death. But you don't need to say murder, death, kill.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Okay. Okay, Paul. Murder, death, kill. Sylvester Stallone. John Claude Van Damme. Arnold Schwarzenegger goes, I'm gonna murder Stallone.
Paul Scheer
I'm gonna kill Schwarzenegger. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna death Wesley.
Jason Mantzoukas
When we cut to 2032, we're with Sandy Bullock.
Paul Scheer
Sandy Bullock.
Jason Mantzoukas
And she is like, a uniformed police officer.
Paul Scheer
Her name is Huxley. Brave New World. Nice reference. Movie Deepest Smart.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's so many references in this. Did anybody else notice? And the first thing, Stallone punches a guy who's dressed like the Terminator. Did anybody else notice that? Right? There is a guy who's dressed like. Yeah, there's this, too.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah, There's a Schwarzenegger reference later on.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's. There is.
Wyatt Cenac
Wait, do you think that Wesley Snipes dyed his hair because Joe Pesci had done it in Lethal?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Paul Scheer
I did want to talk about this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Do you think that's Joel Silver being, like, Joe Pesci's blonde hair work? So we're going to do blonde hair in this.
Paul Scheer
Blonde hair is cool.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Basically. Just so you know people at home, that Cinder book is a big, like, 20th century fan. So that's why her office has a Lethal Weapon 3 poster. Not even the best. Like the. One of the worst of the Lethal Weapons.
Wyatt Cenac
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hang on, bro.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Like, it's so weird.
Paul Scheer
Chili Peppers. Because they've definitely lasted. The Chili Peppers carried over to 2030, 2032. And there's a.
Wyatt Cenac
There's a little joker.
June Diane Raphael
She's a joker from Batman with the 90s. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. But hey, guys, she keeps on saying she's obsessed with the 20th.
Paul Scheer
And. And what about this one? The. The great. They're like, oh, yeah, Chili Peppers. Leave the weapon. And a poster for the band Bomb Hate Fed Love. What? Like, I feel like that was Joel Silver's kid.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And he was like, we've gotta get into a little bit.
Jason Mantzoukas
If he's. If we put just a poster in the movie, we'll move some units. But she. She is a uniformed police officer in 2032, just driving her crew, like her police car on. And calls prison warden. She calls the prison ward warden to say, hey, hey, warden, how come there's no crime? I'm bored. She's a police officer. Like, just a regular. It's. It is crazy.
Paul Scheer
She's looking for action.
Wyatt Cenac
Lil does.
Paul Scheer
She knows she's gonna get it here?
Wyatt Cenac
I will say what's kind of what they did predict was they did predict the iPad because the warden has an iPad, but it's just got like a shiny silver frame. Like Steve Jobs.
Jason Mantzoukas
A lot of people think Steve Jobs got the inspiration for the iPad from this movie.
Wyatt Cenac
That's.
Jason Mantzoukas
He got, by the way, true story. Before he died. He said that.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, he said it as he died.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Watch Demolition Man.
Jason Mantzoukas
All the answers for Apple products are in Demolition Man. And then X is over his eyes. He's dead.
Paul Scheer
Well, that's why they included the script in that Jobs book. It was a script.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yep.
Wyatt Cenac
Yep.
Jason Mantzoukas
The last. The last. The appendix of the Jaws book is just the script for Demolition Man.
Wyatt Cenac
That's gonna be so prescient. That's gonna be my favorite part of the Ashton Kutcher movie is. Cause in the movie, they show him. Watch Demolition man, but they don't cut. They just show him. It's the whole movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Him jerking off to Demolition Man. Cause everybody knows Steve Jobs jerked off to Demolition Man. That's where we're at.
Paul Scheer
It is proven.
Wyatt Cenac
And you can download this podcast on itunes.
Paul Scheer
Be ripped off itunes immediately. So anyway, oddly, Wesley Snipes has a parole hearing for a mass murderer. Seems odd. Seems odd that he's getting a parole hearing.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wasn't he sentenced to eternity? Wasn't he sentenced to eternity?
Paul Scheer
But yet they still run parole hearings just in case, like, stallone accidentally killed 20 people. He still has 40 years before parole hearing. Snipes gets one. He gets out immediately. No explanation how? Because he breaks out of cuffs. He doesn't do anything. He's like, I didn't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, no, no, that's because they programmed him.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
But the bad guy. Programmed, Programmed.
Paul Scheer
He would have to be sentient to a computer to unlatch it. Like he didn't do like.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, he knew the code. The guy says, how'd you know the code word?
Paul Scheer
Oh, code word.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, or whatever.
Wyatt Cenac
He says, yeah, he said like diddy pants. And then it was. It was something that. Yeah, silly. It was like diddly pants. And then the handcuffs opened up and.
Jason Mantzoukas
Then they say, how did you know the password? He goes, I don't know. And that's why he's able to use all the. Like he goes up to an ATM and he's like, like as if you mean.
Paul Scheer
Oh wait, do you mean a self esteem machine?
Wyatt Cenac
Yes, exactly.
Paul Scheer
Okay. Yeah. Wesley Snipes escapes very quickly, by the way. I feel like Wesley. I would like to look at the script because I feel like Wesley Snipes improvised every line. Every line.
Jason Mantzoukas
I feel like he was like, yeah, I'll be in this movie if I can't. If I don't have to say any of your dumb words.
Paul Scheer
There's a scene where he's just speaking in Spanish and I happen to watch his DVD last night in the audio. Director's commentary was on. He's like, yeah, wasn't just started doing the scene in Spanish and we thought it was funny so we just let him do it. I was like, I'm proven right.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's crazy.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, like that's why he talks to the parole officer.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love that you just said and for some reason the director's commentary was on. As if you didn't turn on director's commentary.
Paul Scheer
Witness.
June Diane Raphael
He couldn't figure out the dvd.
Paul Scheer
We couldn't figure out the DVD for she last. I was like, I don't get that old shit, man. I'm about Netflix Instant and Hulu.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I'm about streaming.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
So.
June Diane Raphael
Here'S what's really weird about this movie though overall, this is just a.
Jason Mantzoukas
General comment is the macro point.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, I'm gonna take it macro for a second. Cause it's so like you don't know exactly what you're rooting for. Like there's this new society and it is violence free. But there are certain freedoms, like the freedom to eat fast food that have been taken away from us.
Paul Scheer
June, haven't you heard Dennis Leary's rant?
June Diane Raphael
I Do. I did. I did.
Paul Scheer
So.
June Diane Raphael
But you're in a position though, you're put in a position where it's like as an audience member, you're hearkening back to the better times of 1996, which.
Jason Mantzoukas
Was, I definitely was like, yeah, hey.
June Diane Raphael
But don't we wishing for here.
Wyatt Cenac
But at the same time there are people today who are like, oh, it was so much easier in the 50s. And it's like, not for me it wasn't.
June Diane Raphael
Right? Absolutely.
Wyatt Cenac
I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you mean.
Paul Scheer
If you're unclear about why people are upset, here is Dennis Leary's rant, which this is at the height of Dennis Leary being a stand up. And I feel like they're like, do your thing, man, just have fun.
Jason Mantzoukas
And Dennis Leary, just so you know, Dennis Leary is like, like society.
Wyatt Cenac
Is.
Jason Mantzoukas
Rid of violence and everything's great and glossy and funny. And Dennis Leary is like the leader of the bad people that live underground, like in a kind of Matrix Revolutions kind of scenario. So he's like a rap, a Robin Hood type figure.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, their graffiti is amazing, is unbelievable. And what they write in the one of the first scenes in the movie is just simply life as hell. Yeah, life is hell.
Jason Mantzoukas
And it is.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, they have a graffiti anti graffiti machine which they show how it works, but it's just like poles that shoot out of concrete. So I don't understand how the graffiti disappears.
Jason Mantzoukas
It just seems like, like you wouldn't get it, man.
Paul Scheer
But meanwhile, wasn't Snipes uses it to beat up people. So we'll jack up the volume a little bit because these clips are a little bit low. But here we go. This is Dennis Leary's rant. See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy because I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who sits in a greasy spoon and wonder, gee, should I eat the T bone steak.
Jason Mantzoukas
Or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs.
Paul Scheer
With a side order of gravy fries? I want high cholesterol.
Jason Mantzoukas
I want to eat bacon and butter and buckets of cheese. Okay?
Paul Scheer
I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non smoking section.
Jason Mantzoukas
I want to run the with green jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine.
Paul Scheer
Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal, I've seen this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Did you know what it is?
Paul Scheer
It's a 47 year old virgin sitting around in his face pajamas drinking a banana broccoli shake, singing I'm an Oscar Mayer wiener. You live up top. You live cocktails away. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants your other choice, come down here, maybe starve the day. And then he breaks into his pit song, I'm an Right. That was like that song that he had, like, where he did stand up material during a song.
Wyatt Cenac
The other great part of that is that. Go back to that for a second. Jack Black is one of the underground dwellers.
Paul Scheer
Oh, really?
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, Go to the very end. Go to the very end. I looked, I saw it in the credits and I was like, that's. Yeah. Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, amazing.
Paul Scheer
That is awesome. Three Bob Roberts. Oh, wow. That's awesome. So that's the. That's the villain of the movie. So basically.
June Diane Raphael
Wait, that's the villain of the movie?
Paul Scheer
Well, I mean, he is. Because basically Cocteau the new.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, Cocteau is the villain.
Paul Scheer
Well, but I'm saying Cocteau says he's the villain, so.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, Paul, why are you listening to Cocteau?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, the guy created a great San Angeles guys.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, man, I'm starting to think you're part of Cocteau's plan.
Paul Scheer
Whatever. I like wiping my ass with three seashells. No big deal. That's another like, weird thing. Like, why would you over. Why would you Flintstones it? Like, why would you go from toilet paper to seashells? Because according to Stallone, he said. He asked the director and is quoted as saying. It was explained to me, the seashells, you hold two of them like chopsticks and then you pull gently and scrape what's left behind with the third. What? So you are like. You're going. It seems way more than have a shit in the future.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, but how is it cleaned?
Wyatt Cenac
So you're.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, what?
Paul Scheer
You're going. You're going chopsticks down. And as you're getting the middle of the log of crap, you're pulling that out and then you're taking the third shell and you're.
Wyatt Cenac
So.
Paul Scheer
Wait a second. Get that unclean.
Jason Mantzoukas
We're talking right like this.
Paul Scheer
I have a bowl, a pull and a wipe. God, they didn't even know about the Cottonelle soft wipe. That shit is so much more.
June Diane Raphael
But you can't. When you say you hold them chopstick style. So you hold. You hold two seashells with one hand.
Paul Scheer
Yes, like that. And you're getting in there and you're pulling it out.
June Diane Raphael
But we saw them.
Wyatt Cenac
Sure.
Paul Scheer
Like how crabs are big. They Were pretty big and they were very clean. So you'd have to wash the shit off of these seashells. Like who was like, oh yeah, that's actually more convenient than paper that I used once and dumped the toilet.
Wyatt Cenac
That makes sense also if you're somebody like, because it was how it was. What was? Like they're like 80 year olds who should be alive during this time who were like, wait a minute, no toilet paper. There was nothing, there was nothing about toilet paper that made us a violent society like toilet paper. If anything kept us from being a more violent society, why in your utopia that does not involve the rest of the country?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, what is happening with the rest of the country?
Wyatt Cenac
Do you get rid of toilet paper? And also, can we have the word homicide back? Because it's really murder. Death kill is a, the best part.
Jason Mantzoukas
Of murder death kill was when they, they the computer replacement reports like a 187 or like code and they're like, well what is that? I don't even know what that. Well, let's look it up. Look up 187. Oh, it's a murder. Death kill. Don't you think as a police officer you would know exactly what that thing is?
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Paul Scheer
So basically, you know, we don't have to get into the big plot of it. Stallone is unfrozen. Wasn't sliced unfrozen. They wreck a lot of havoc in the. In the future.
Wyatt Cenac
Basically. Futurama.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. And. And wow.
Wyatt Cenac
I didn't, didn't realize there were so many Futurama fans.
Jason Mantzoukas
But there are canceled a second in time. Really? Really. Really. Then you should have watched.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
By the way, I know.
Wyatt Cenac
I don't mean I was.
Paul Scheer
I don't mean to get back into the shit talk, but there is a moment like Sylvester Stallone is unfrozen. They bring him right to the police place. He gets in the uniform right away, he's fully a cop. And. And he's like, hey, yeah to Sandra Book. By the way, you're. You had toilet paper. So that means that he's walking around with. In his ass.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no, no.
Wyatt Cenac
He, no, he was holding a.
Jason Mantzoukas
He didn't go. He didn't go because then he swears a bunch. He swears a bunch. And every time you swear you get a ticket, so he swears a whole bunch. So a whole bunch of paper tickets come out. And he goes, thanks, I'll be in the bathroom.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, here's the weird thing.
Wyatt Cenac
Did you think he was just going to go read those in the bathroom?
Paul Scheer
Like a newspaper had taken his and was like, oh, damn it, there's no toilet paper. All right, I can go out there, tell him the problem, then get a bunch of tickets and wipe my ass. Like, he just pulled up his pants real quick. So he's got Paul, that scene. His ass.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, Paul, how are you living? What are you. Do you live like an animal? Like, do you not check if there's toilet paper before you go?
Paul Scheer
He was like, I've been frozen for 40 years. I got this goo coming out of my ass. Cuz it's all up and all, everything. I need to like shake this, this out. I can't hold it in. Oh, there's no toilet paper. And I'm freaked out. I got to go out there. I'm embarrassed. This girl's kind of cute. I need to wipe my ass. I got to be cool with her and just whisper.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let me ask you this also.
Wyatt Cenac
Bidets. They had bidets in the 90s. And somebody was like, b. No, I, I figured out a method. I found three seashells.
Jason Mantzoukas
Three metal seashells. They appeared to be. Paul, I have a question for you.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
When Stallone was frozen, he had a family, I think.
Paul Scheer
Oh yeah, he did. And when he asked about that family, here's what he was told.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then I have a mindblowing question afterwards.
Paul Scheer
Okay, great.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think, Yeah, I think we have the same question.
June Diane Raphael
I think we all have the same question. Yes, I think we all have the same question.
Paul Scheer
By the way, if you are a fan of.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm just gonna.
Paul Scheer
The.
Jason Mantzoukas
Should we just go. Sandra Bullock is 100% his daughter, right?
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
There's no other way.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sandra Bullock is 100% his daughter.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you.
Wyatt Cenac
Thank you.
Paul Scheer
No, no, no, no, no. Yes, she knows. No, no, no. Cuz she knows who the daughter is.
Wyatt Cenac
No, she doesn't.
Paul Scheer
She says she doesn't.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let her look it up. She's about to look it up. She's like, I can look it up.
Wyatt Cenac
And he's like, no, no, no, don't do that. Because then when I. You, It'll be weird.
Paul Scheer
Oh, my God.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is like old boy shit. Spoilers for old boy.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Guys, you've rocked my world.
Jason Mantzoukas
I know that. Right? The minute that happened, I was like, oh, she's his daughter. Then they had the sex scene and.
Wyatt Cenac
I was like, whoa. Yeah, this is gonna be really weird.
Jason Mantzoukas
When they reveal that she's his daughter.
Wyatt Cenac
But it was just mindset, so you could kind of.
Jason Mantzoukas
I was kind of okay with it. But then kisses her and I was like, barf.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
But then I. And by barf, I mean barf out of my wiener. I came.
Paul Scheer
But by the way, the way the movie ends and spoiler alert. But it looks like he's gonna go off with her. Yes. His daughter.
June Diane Raphael
Together.
Paul Scheer
They're together.
Jason Mantzoukas
His daughter. Come on. This is a dystopian future, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
There's no other explanation that's offered.
Paul Scheer
I am wrong.
June Diane Raphael
There's no other explanation.
Paul Scheer
Much time.
Jason Mantzoukas
They spend so much time with. Where's the daughter? Is there a daughter? The wife is dead. We know that. But there's a daughter and blah, blah, blah.
Wyatt Cenac
And I don't want to see the daughter because she won't like me because I've been in ice jail.
Jason Mantzoukas
But. But I want to fuck you, baby. I should make sure you're not my daughter.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, fuck it. Who cares? Yeah, But.
June Diane Raphael
All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
First thing I do.
Paul Scheer
One hole in this theory. He was married. His last name is Huxley. Or his last name was Spartan. She's Huxley. How did you change her name?
Jason Mantzoukas
Who knows?
June Diane Raphael
She may be worried about that.
Wyatt Cenac
She may be remarried. She may be remarried.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like maybe.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
His wife remarried his wife.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, it's like, it's a new society. Who the fuck knows what happened there?
Jason Mantzoukas
I love. Thank you. Thank you. I love. We are 100% on the same page as fucking his daughter.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. That's what also seemed weird when he was having mind sex and he was, like, freaked out by it. It seemed like.
Jason Mantzoukas
It seems like a horror movie.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. That. It was like he was kind of into it and then it was like, oh, wait a minute. This could be my kid.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, I gotta go.
Jason Mantzoukas
I really thought we were gonna learn that information. And that we didn't was very upsetting.
Paul Scheer
Well, do you wanna.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is Sex in the Future.
Paul Scheer
You guys wanna watch Sex in the Future? The following. The following scene is.
Scott Aukerman
It's pretty amazing.
Paul Scheer
I let it go long. Here we go.
Wyatt Cenac
Also, why do they fucking love jingles? We'll begin in a few Seconds. Having sex. Of course.
Jason Mantzoukas
I want to talk to Sandra Bullock about this movie.
Paul Scheer
Stallone. Again, great acting. Here, watch this.
Jason Mantzoukas
What? Not cool.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, by the way, it's film sequence.
Wyatt Cenac
It's a.
June Diane Raphael
It's a horror movie summer sequence.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Is this my daughter? Wait a minute. A minute.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, yeah. We both have clefts in our chin.
Jason Mantzoukas
What?
Paul Scheer
What?
Jason Mantzoukas
What?
Paul Scheer
What's wrong?
June Diane Raphael
He broke contact.
Paul Scheer
Contact?
Jason Mantzoukas
I didn't touch you yet. Wow, guys, that just happened.
Paul Scheer
That is, I think, the most graphic sex scene I've seen. Even though it's not graphic, it's like it's. He's a.
Jason Mantzoukas
The zoom in. The zoomins on his face.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Because you never see him. You never see him naked. And by the way, this is a great look in the future. Just the. The tuxedo vest without sleeves.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
The tuxedo Jaguar that.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. In a world where everyone is.
Jason Mantzoukas
If he has a right sleeve.
Paul Scheer
Oh, did it.
Wyatt Cenac
No, I think he had. No, he didn't have either sleeve. But in a world where, like, everybody's a wimp. Like the fact that they're like, ah, but we're going to go sleeveless to show off our muscles, even though we don't have violence or anything like that.
Paul Scheer
I have a feeling they gave him like a full out. I'm ripping these sleeves off because everyone else, like, I feel like he was like, rip, rip. All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's the same thing in over the Top when the kid had a jacket and he was like, I want this.
Wyatt Cenac
Kid to have no sleeves.
Jason Mantzoukas
I do.
Paul Scheer
Like, by the way that they refer to Simon Phoenix, the Wesley Snipes character, as maniac.
Jason Mantzoukas
A lot.
Paul Scheer
Like, yes, yeah, stand down, maniac. Or like the maniac is not listening. Yes.
Wyatt Cenac
Right.
Paul Scheer
That, like, why. That seems an overtly confrontational term.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, yeah. Criminal maniac just seems heightened or even just, hey, suspect. Why did they go in this future? They like, went zero to George Zimmerman. Just like, I don't know if you're the person I'm supposed to be stopping, but. Get on the ground, maniac.
Paul Scheer
Get on the ground, Maniac. Oh, man. And then so. But also, the movie is based on this idea that Wesley's not. He needs to find the gun, but yet he steals a stick from a police officer that, when injected into a car, blows it up. Well, also, you know what? The gun. I'll take this stick. That blows up.
June Diane Raphael
That was only because the museum, though, the guns are all in, like a glass structure and he behaves as though he's never seen glass in the 90s.
Paul Scheer
He gets so cannons like an old can school pirate cannon. He's like, ooh, what do we got here?
Wyatt Cenac
Well, he was never. As a child, he was never taken to a museum. And that's why he turned to that life of crime. It says. It really says something about the state of public education.
June Diane Raphael
So here we go.
Wyatt Cenac
I'm just saying, perhaps if it was a little better, you know, he had.
Paul Scheer
A good time at that museum. He was learning.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. He went to, like, that school that the kids in the Wire went.
Jason Mantzoukas
And.
Wyatt Cenac
Then was like, oh, this is going crazy.
June Diane Raphael
So in the world of demolition man, is there a world outside of San Angeles?
Paul Scheer
You would argue that that would be yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, well, we do. We learned that there's an enormous earthquake that kills everybody, basically.
June Diane Raphael
A lot of lights were extinguished.
Paul Scheer
If Sandra Brook said, and my mother.
Scott Aukerman
Was also killed in that earthquake, it.
Paul Scheer
Would have been good. Oh, wait.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
She was so.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh.
Wyatt Cenac
But no, here, actually, this is why her name is Huxley, because her mother died, her dad's in jail, she gets adopted. She may. She never knew her mom. Oh.
Jason Mantzoukas
Ryan.
Paul Scheer
She leaves twice in the show.
Jason Mantzoukas
Two exits. Two bold exits.
Paul Scheer
Oh, here's another thing. When Stallone's trying to have sex with his daughter, he goes. He goes, oh, we're not gonna, you know, we're not gonna knock boots. We're not gonna hunk a chunka. Yeah, hunk a chunka. When was that a phrase?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, it was between 93, when the movie was made, in 96, when the movie is set.
Paul Scheer
Hunka chunka. You want a hunk a chunka?
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, it was really gross.
Jason Mantzoukas
My favorite.
Wyatt Cenac
I remember Color Me Bad sang a song, Hunka chunka. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
One of my favorite things is once Simon Phoenix has escaped and they've thawed out Sylvester Stallone, they're like, okay, well, we've run the computer program. We know what he's gonna do. He's going to. It is determined that he will try and set up a drug lab and start a new crime syndicate. That's just his. That must be his plan. And that. That made me furious because I was like, you are fucking assholes if you think like. And Sylvester Stallone rightfully is like, you guys are assholes. And I felt.
Wyatt Cenac
Also. Also, do you realize how long it takes to set up a drug lab in this environment?
Jason Mantzoukas
It would be almost impossible to even.
Paul Scheer
Get some people on the idea of taking drugs.
Wyatt Cenac
Right. And find a drug that they like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Wyatt Cenac
Like, you're not. You don't have, like, weed or cocaine Available. Like you're going to have to go into a lab and make some sort of synthetic drug. You're going to have to do human trials.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yep. You're gonna have to make sure graffiti artists.
Wyatt Cenac
That's. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
It would be like saying in this time it would be like he's gonna set up a loom factory and people are gonna go there and get tapestries like it.
June Diane Raphael
And also it's gonna take some doing.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. This is a seven year plan. His drug lab idea. It's. It's. That's seven years.
Paul Scheer
That's a big world. Yeah, yeah. Chunk that he's got to get into. Like by the way, it's also very. Yeah. Low tier plan.
June Diane Raphael
So. But where we come to understand once Stallone is.
Paul Scheer
I'm sorry. They're always looking for him. But they can clearly find him because he curses all the time. Whenever he curses, a ticket comes out of the machine. So it's like, oh, he'll just follow the cursing machines. Like that's where he is. They never use the cursing machines to locate him. Sorry.
Jason Mantzoukas
By the way, great point.
Paul Scheer
We owe Copton Rob Schneider.
Wyatt Cenac
We all should go to the future and be future cops.
June Diane Raphael
We come to understand that while Stallone was frozen, he was conscious during that entire time.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, he definitely has that.
Wyatt Cenac
Oh, right. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Do you want to hear his monologue?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. I love this.
Paul Scheer
But say your point first.
June Diane Raphael
No, no, let's watch it first. For sure.
Paul Scheer
Here's a great dramatic monologue from Sylvester Stallone about his time in cryo jail.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't want to spoil your dinner.
Paul Scheer
Pal, but my cryo sentence was no sweet lullaby.
Jason Mantzoukas
I had feelings and I had thoughts. How about a 36 year nightmare about.
Paul Scheer
People caught in a burning building? You were awake. I don't think so. I do think so.
Jason Mantzoukas
And my wife beating her fist against a block of ice that used to be her husband.
Paul Scheer
Then you were nice enough to wake me up and let me know everything that matters. Something in my life is gone.
Jason Mantzoukas
It would have been just take me.
Paul Scheer
Down and leave me to the fucking crows. What would you say if I called.
June Diane Raphael
You a brutish fossil symbolic of a decayed era? Great.
Paul Scheer
I love that Lady Beetlejuice playing the same character.
Wyatt Cenac
I, I honestly thought the whole like her thing. She wanted to fucking him. Oh yeah, she and I. I was waiting for that moment where like he takes her into the bat into the Taco Bell bathroom.
Paul Scheer
She.
Wyatt Cenac
And it's like I've done this before in a Taco Bell bathroom but never won this. Nice.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. She Is wet.
Paul Scheer
I, I, I, I oddly got the, I guess the European version of this online. And Taco Bell is replaced with Pizza Hut.
Jason Mantzoukas
What?
Paul Scheer
But they didn't change it all out. So there are some scenes that like do you see a Taco Bell sign? And then they say pizza. It's like let's go to this Pizza Hut. But it's Taco Bell. There's no Taco Bell. And I guess far foreign countries I.
Wyatt Cenac
Went to, I went to college at the University of North Carolina. And the one thing that I can take pride in is that fellow alum Dan Cortez was the piano.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
In, in the Taco Bell combination. Combination. Pizza Hut. Taco Bell.
Paul Scheer
I like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, I like that.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Playing like on the piano like Jolly Green Giant. It's a great scene. Jesse the Jesse the Body Ventura is in this movie as well.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's one of the thought out thought that Simon Phoenix asks to be thought out.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, a huge question mark on that one. Only because like Simon Phoenix. Yeah. If you want me to kill Dennis Leary, I gotta get like a bunch of my guys out there. Oh yeah, yeah, sure. We'll release more crazy people in this world. And then at the end of the movie, those guys are not captured. They're probably performing that drug life.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
But a few of them were talking about it like hey, we could really make a killing with a drug lab. Also, do you know, did he ever thaw out Jeffrey Dahmer? Cause he was so excited about getting to meet Jeffrey Dahmer.
Jason Mantzoukas
Great news. John Hein is tweeting about the show. John Hein from the Howard Stern Show?
Paul Scheer
He was just here.
Jason Mantzoukas
I do know that the police don't seem too worried about Simon Phoenix being out because at one point Benjamin Bratt said it'll just be a matter of tiktoks until we find him again.
Paul Scheer
Over complicating the word time because in.
Jason Mantzoukas
The future we use longer and more words to say short things.
June Diane Raphael
Here's what's so confusing about Sandy Bullock's character. She's set up as wanting to see violence and action so badly, but the second it actually something actually happens, she doesn't do anything. No, she just until later when she kicks a little ass because her instinct is to unfreeze someone else to get in there.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, right. Her dad.
Jason Mantzoukas
Just her father slash sexual partner. I mean like there's an argument to be made that she wants to see action because it's in her blood. Yeah, it's in her blood.
Paul Scheer
Genetics.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's why everybody else is docile and lame, and she has the blood of John Spartan in her. John Spartan. She has the blood of John Spartan in her. She says soon she will have. She will have the semen of John Spartan in her.
Paul Scheer
Oh, wait, by the way, this is the interesting point in this movie. There's a part in this movie where Wesley Snipes threatens Cocteau, who's actually in.
Scott Aukerman
On the whole thing.
Paul Scheer
And we know that it's not a secret and it's not really revealed in an interesting way. And. And he runs away, and then they. Like, everyone just kind of takes a break. It's like, oh, yeah, we're hunting that guy. Anyway, you want to come to Taco Bell tonight? Yeah, let's go to Taco Bell. Let's go back to your apartment. Like, there's a long period of time where Wesley Snipes, he escapes in the daylight. We catch back up with him at night. He's like, all right, here I am going down here. Like, there's a. Everyone just took time off.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, he jumped into some bushes and they were like. Like, we're not. I'm not getting this fancy new outfit dirty.
Paul Scheer
He is dressed like crisscross in this movie. He is full blown crisscross.
Wyatt Cenac
And.
Paul Scheer
And, like, for whatever reason, there's like a Demolition man logo on the front of his overalls. I don't know where he got that.
Wyatt Cenac
But there, you know, it was from the. It was from the cryo lab.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, they all. They all got those plastic things. That's not. That's not a demolition map.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, they had that.
June Diane Raphael
That's like a. That's just something from the prison.
Wyatt Cenac
I will say. I will say. In the Dennis Leary underground Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle sewer world, why did the lady who made cheeseburgers look like Frida Kahlo? Yes.
June Diane Raphael
That was weird.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, 100%.
Paul Scheer
She's alive and she's been living down.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's her new resistance.
Wyatt Cenac
Yep.
Jason Mantzoukas
In the future, Frida. In this version of the. The future, Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera live in an underground city.
Paul Scheer
Guys, let me just drop some facts on you about this movie, and I want to hear your reactions to them. Lori Petty was originally cast in the role that Sandra Bullock played, Tank Girl. Yes. And was. And after a few days of filming, was fired and replaced with Sandra Bullock.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Paul Scheer
Few days. So we don't know. So we have to get that footage. It's the Eric Stolt Marty McFly footage.
Wyatt Cenac
I feel like she probably tried to get fired because what the fuck I'm fucking my dad. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
The original movie was written for Steven Seagal and Jean Claude Van Damme.
Jason Mantzoukas
Amazing.
Paul Scheer
Van Damme was offered the role of the bad guy, but didn't want that role. He agreed to start it if both lead roles could be switched. But Seagal was like, well, I don't want to play the bad guy. So then that movie was scrapped. Here's two other facts that are interesting. Jackie Chan was supposed to be Wesley Snipes, but Jackie Chan said he didn't want to play a bad guy because Asian audiences don't like good guys who become bad guys.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then he has name checked in it.
Paul Scheer
Yes, because Sandra Bullock is a big Jackie Chan fan.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, interesting.
Paul Scheer
But in the European version, he says Bruce Lee.
Jason Mantzoukas
He says Bruce Lee, not Jackie Chan. How interesting.
Paul Scheer
Here are two other things. These are all, like, amazing facts. Wesley Snipes kicks and punches look lurchy and awkward because he's such a good karate guy in real life that his punches were so fast that it blurred in the camera.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
So they made him slow it down so it looks weird.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's amazing.
Paul Scheer
And in Kuwait, the movie was simply called Rambo the Destroyer.
Jason Mantzoukas
Rambo. Rambo. Also name checked in this movie. Wesley Snipes gets guns and is like, thanks, Rambo, or something like that. And then Luke Skywalker is also name checked in this movie. There's a lot of pop culture references from the 1980s in 2032.
Wyatt Cenac
Also, I am wondering if in the Expendables movies, Sylvester Stallone wears a beret. And I'm wondering if he just took the beret from Demolition man or if this is some kind of a nod to all the guys and gals who went to Democon.
June Diane Raphael
And where does that beret come from.
Jason Mantzoukas
When he gets wearing berets? No, it was in his box. He had a box of stuff.
Wyatt Cenac
Right? With yarn.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Remember when he knit a sweater? Remember when in one night, Sylvester Stallone knit a red sweater?
Wyatt Cenac
By the way.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, he made an entire sweater out of, like, one ball of yarn.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
That's how good the rehabilitation program was.
Wyatt Cenac
He and his daughter.
June Diane Raphael
That was going to be, like, fully realized. And that was going to be, like, paid off in a wonderful way. The final sequence.
Wyatt Cenac
I want to learn to. I want to learn to knit now just so I can start an Etsy shop called John Spartan.
Jason Mantzoukas
John Spartan. Sweaters. Sweaters for my daughter. Wife.
Paul Scheer
I wanted before we go out to the audience, because I'm sure you guys have some things we might have missed. I Do want to play the scene that Jason, which said that we should definitely play. And I agree with.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm gonna pee while we do this because it's. It's too sexy for me to deal with.
Paul Scheer
So obviously wasn't sniped from the way he's dressed. Is pretty hip hop. So let's score the fight scene with a little bit of hip hop here. Let's have some record. So listen to the record scratches during this fight scene. Here we go.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, wait for me.
Paul Scheer
Stupid. I love one day, whoever made that joke. Like, it's like old, like, Casio piano that you would buy.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. And then you never hear it for the rest of the movie.
Paul Scheer
Never.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Never again. They. Throughout the movie, they hired different people to score it and then fired them. Like, they would submit one song and it was like, huh, get out. And then another person like, but we don't have the budget to have them rescore the whole. Just. Just give. Let them do the next song. That's your song. Get out. Cause even at the very end, like, when he's hanging. When Stallone's hanging from the grabber thing, the music there is, like, weirdly, like, orchestral, but fast and kind of circusy.
Paul Scheer
I feel like they. No one really knew what was going on, but they were psyched that it was happening. I feel like they're like, what, doing something.
June Diane Raphael
The best in this sequence, though, is when they cut back to everyone in the police station who's watching violence, I guess, for the first time. I mean, that's what I think that scene is about. Right? Like, they've never seen it. But, like, so. So my question is, they've never seen movies they've never seen.
Paul Scheer
Well, she's a 90s aficionado, right? Seen some Stallone films, right?
Wyatt Cenac
I mean, no, she just has the poster for Lethal Weapon 3.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well. And Rambo is talked about. So Rambo exists in there. What's that?
June Diane Raphael
Did you use the three seashells?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used three seashells.
Paul Scheer
But that also. That brings up a good. It brings up a good point. There's a moment where, like, when the. The warden is killed and they're like, bring him up on screen, they show him dying, and they're all just like.
Wyatt Cenac
Huh, yeah, That's a shame.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, it's a bummer they didn't call for help. Back up. They're like, oh, this is watching Bleed out. Okay.
Wyatt Cenac
Also in 2036, I just wanna. I just have to say, 2036, I think there's only two women on the police force. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Like, really?
Jason Mantzoukas
There's Benjamin Brat, too, and he's kind of a lady.
Wyatt Cenac
Like, they really built it.
Paul Scheer
Cleary are gay. Like, the end of the movie. Like, they're together and they're, like, side by side. He's like it. And then there's, like, high five. And there's a moment between the two of them.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. Because he, like, gets dressed. Like, they change his clothes. They give him a makeover and rip the sleeves off his outfit and put a vest on him.
Paul Scheer
No sleeves.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, they put a vest. Like, good. Yeah, you're one of us now. Wear this. Wear this vest.
Paul Scheer
There are obviously some things that we missed, and that's why we go out to you, the audience, if you have questions, things that we might have missed, things you want to inform us about. Oh, my gosh. This guy's question of. All right, your name, your favorite scene of the movie and your question. Oh, he wrote it down on his iPad. Here we go.
Wyatt Cenac
You mean on his fiber op.
Paul Scheer
Read your fiber op. My name is Chris. I think my. You thought way too long.
Wyatt Cenac
I know. Well, and he was reading like, he was reading as he said it.
Paul Scheer
My name is Chris.
Jason Mantzoukas
What I was actually thinking about is.
Wyatt Cenac
My favorite scene in the movie because.
Jason Mantzoukas
There'S so many great ones.
Wyatt Cenac
I think it's the blood sugar, sex.
Jason Mantzoukas
Magic, Lethal Weapon 3 framing of Sandra Bullock's office.
Paul Scheer
I just wanted to bring up that.
Jason Mantzoukas
The director of this movie, which I.
Wyatt Cenac
Had to look up because I was.
Paul Scheer
Like, where did this come from?
Wyatt Cenac
I just want to read the first line of his Wikipedia bio.
Paul Scheer
Marco Vambrilla is a New York based.
Jason Mantzoukas
Voice, video collage and installation artist known.
Paul Scheer
For his elaborate recontextualizations of popular and found imagery, which Vanity Fair praises as.
Jason Mantzoukas
Critiques and masterpieces of visual overload.
Paul Scheer
Well, that.
June Diane Raphael
That lines up.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sounds like the guy that I want directing Demolition Man.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, this movie is not, like, poorly directed.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are you sure about that?
June Diane Raphael
I agree. I agree with you.
Paul Scheer
But I mean, like, in the scheme, like in the grand scheme of, like, the room.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are you sure about that?
Paul Scheer
I mean, in that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Did you see that sex scene?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, you're right. That's a pretty great video installation. All right, all right. Your name. Your. Your favorite thing that Simon Phoenix did in your question. Here we go.
Wyatt Cenac
My name is Tom. Favorite thing that Simon Phoenix did was actually the opening fight sequence when he just goes crazy to hip hop music. And my question is. It's more of an explanation, hope, but.
Paul Scheer
Nice reference.
Jason Mantzoukas
This guy gets it. This guy gets It. I was wondering.
Paul Scheer
The entire building does get blown up.
Wyatt Cenac
In the opening scene, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
So how did they find 20 bodies.
Wyatt Cenac
In a matter of seconds?
Paul Scheer
Very good point.
June Diane Raphael
Very good point.
Paul Scheer
I think they were left out to the front. Maybe there is in the front of the building.
Jason Mantzoukas
Maybe the. Maybe the explosion.
June Diane Raphael
I think Phoenix must. Here's what I think. I think Phoenix must have killed them by lighting them on fire or something. Because otherwise.
Paul Scheer
Put them in a dumpster and they were going through the dumpster.
Wyatt Cenac
No, he froze. Well, he froze. He said he froze them so that way. Because Stallone early on is like, I did a thermoscan and there was only eight people in that giant building.
Jason Mantzoukas
And he says the reason you didn't know is because they were dead already.
Wyatt Cenac
When he froze them. He froze them so that they wouldn't show up on a thermoscan.
June Diane Raphael
The cops in Los Angeles thought that Stallone froze these people to death.
Wyatt Cenac
No, no, no. That's what. That's what signed Phoenix.
Jason Mantzoukas
They thought the explosion. They thought that he was a cowboy and went in and just with reckless abandon caused the death of these 20 hostages. And what they didn't know is that Simon Phoenix had already killed and frozen the hostages to frame John. I'm dying. I'm fucking dying. This is our lives. We try and make sense of this for you.
Paul Scheer
But I'm looking. I'm looking for a lady.
June Diane Raphael
But here's the last question about that. So the cops found them frozen, though. The cops found the bodies frozen.
Wyatt Cenac
No, because the fire. The fire, they've got flash fried.
June Diane Raphael
They really did just take Phoenix's word for it that they were dead.
Paul Scheer
Yes, that's the injustice that I was complaining about.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
Paul Scheer
This is the kind of world I don't want to live in.
Wyatt Cenac
1990.
Paul Scheer
Okay, your name. What you would say to Simon Phoenix at his trial. And your question.
Wyatt Cenac
You're a maniac.
Paul Scheer
Good.
Wyatt Cenac
Your name is.
Jason Mantzoukas
Your name. Okay, now, what would you say to Simon Phoenix in his trial? Two quick questions.
Paul Scheer
Number one, if they're trying to underplay.
Jason Mantzoukas
The sexuality so much in this society.
Wyatt Cenac
Why did that girl, like, new dial Stallone?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, that was strange.
Jason Mantzoukas
And who did she think she was dialing? Like, what was that?
Paul Scheer
The other quick question was, doesn't the.
Wyatt Cenac
Liquid Styrofoam for crashed cars seem so much like more inefficient and slower than airbags?
Paul Scheer
When that.
Wyatt Cenac
I actually thought that.
June Diane Raphael
That I thought that the safety foam. I thought that that foam was a great idea. Though. Cause the foam protects the entire car. Like, there's. To me, there's no way, if you have a car that produces that foam that you could ever die in a car crash.
Paul Scheer
Whereas what you would die in suffocation.
Jason Mantzoukas
It would. It is filling the cabin with something that goes from soft to hard so you would be killed.
June Diane Raphael
You know what happens?
Jason Mantzoukas
Goes from soft to hard.
June Diane Raphael
Ladies.
Paul Scheer
Just fart. Your aid boat, Dan.
June Diane Raphael
It protects you inside of it. It protects you inside of it. And then someone has to chisel you out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Because you're dead. Because you're dead.
Paul Scheer
Then I did. I did think that the naked girl was interesting. That's a very good.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, there is, like, this is, like, the first, like, sexting, here's naked picture kind of scenario. And because it's a phone call appears and there's a naked woman and she's like, hey, do you want to. Oops, wrong number.
Paul Scheer
But this is, like, the era where, like, naked women in movies, like, started, like, went on a decline a little bit. It was sort of like, actually, like, I just put some tits in there. Like, that would be a fun scene, right? Like, if it's, like, so gratuitous and even, like, there's no. Like, they should just.
Jason Mantzoukas
I had no problem with that scene.
Paul Scheer
Your name. Why you think John Spartan's a hero in your question? Go ahead.
June Diane Raphael
My name is Mallory.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think Mallory. It's a Family Ties quote, guys. RIP David.
Wyatt Cenac
Gary.
Jason Mantzoukas
David Goldberg.
Paul Scheer
Great Scott. Valentine reference.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you.
June Diane Raphael
I think John Spartan was a hero.
Paul Scheer
Because he didn't let anything stop him. Great.
Jason Mantzoukas
I like that.
June Diane Raphael
And I guess my question is that scene where he's in the museum and he's kicking the glass, and then I.
Paul Scheer
Guess the museum guard sees him, and.
June Diane Raphael
I guess I'm wondering how socially stunted are they that they can't. Like, he's breaking into the thing and he's like, oh, do you need help?
Paul Scheer
And then he's like, oh, how much do you weigh?
June Diane Raphael
And just chuck some.
Paul Scheer
And, you know, this movie posits that 30 years in the future we would forget 30 years ago. So that would be. We have no recollection of. What would that be? Like the 8. 77.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
So we'd be like, yeah, I don't know what happened in the 70s. I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
Like, unless that earthquake killed most people.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't think it did.
Wyatt Cenac
And then lobotomized everybody else. And just information's leaving my brain.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's one thing. It's one thing to be like, we don't have crime. It's another thing to be like, what is crime? You know, like, that's a tough. Like, that's a tough sell, especially for.
Paul Scheer
People that are in their 20s.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Which means that they were like, they were born 10 years after this. So it's not like.
Wyatt Cenac
Well, like, his cop friend. His cop friend who was flying the helicopter at the beginning of the movie. Like, nobody ever thought to be like, hey, man, you. You lived through this. You were a cop. Then this. Like, you. You don't remember what a 187 is.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Why can't he be like, oh, no, that's a murder, right? Death kill as you guys know it now.
Wyatt Cenac
And then they'd be like, shut up, man. Just. Just keep working on your little miniatures. That's my third Wyatt. That's my third Wyatt. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
By the way, Wyatt and I were talking about this. I love that guy because in the young version of him was Agent Johnson from Die Hard, which is just, you know, look, I like that, and I like that he's both. He's flying helicopters in both movies.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
He has a very. He has a niche.
Jason Mantzoukas
The problem is the actor who's the older version of him is like a foot and a half taller than the actor playing a younger version of him.
Paul Scheer
We all grew.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, everybody gets longer.
Paul Scheer
Your question. Your name. What? Favorite piece of future tech in your question, Mike. My favorite piece of future tech has.
Wyatt Cenac
To be Taco Bell. Being every restaurant ever.
Paul Scheer
My question or my point is, you guys left out.
Wyatt Cenac
The part of the movie actually made me have to pause it and take.
Jason Mantzoukas
A break and come back. And that is the way people greet.
Paul Scheer
Each other in the.
Wyatt Cenac
The future.
June Diane Raphael
Be well, all right.
Paul Scheer
Hands close. And they do a little.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, they go like that. And then someone's face, but not.
Paul Scheer
It's very weird. It's very Karate Kid. Wax on, wax off.
Wyatt Cenac
Although, you know what? We. If we all did that, we'd put that damn Purell family out of business.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, that's the thing is they also don't high five. They come close to high five. They are like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
They really don't have any physical contact with each other.
Wyatt Cenac
No, no.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sex is outlawed because of the swapping of fluids.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, yeah, but.
Jason Mantzoukas
Which we all understand to be disgusting.
Paul Scheer
Who has a good question? Double hand raised. We have a good question. All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Holy. What is going on? Why does every. Everyone's raising their hands. Your name.
Wyatt Cenac
You.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
Paul Scheer
What you would call the first movie that leads into. Into Demolition Man. And your question. All right, the movie leading Into Demolition man is probably. White man can't jump. All right, I like that theory. And then after that, it's Major League, and then Major League 2 is pretty much happening at the same time as. Wait, so you're saying White man can't jump, goes into Major League 1, Major League 2, and then demolition man happening while Demolition Man's going on. And then. All right, we're off the track. Here we go. Question. So, Mike. Well, it's more of a point leading in. Okay, so at the start, there's the fire going on, and then Wesley Snipes says, is it me or is it hot in here?
Jason Mantzoukas
And then.
Paul Scheer
Or it's getting cold in the air. And he throws the thing on. Yeah, the gas. But at the end, it's, like, all frozen and cold. And then Sloan says, is it me or is it cold in here?
Wyatt Cenac
And then the.
Paul Scheer
Just pisses off Wesley Sl. So it's kind of like they're going first, like, full circle.
Wyatt Cenac
And like. Well, there is. There actually.
Paul Scheer
There is a parallel of the last scene.
Wyatt Cenac
There's another parallel about that because Wesley Snipes says something in the beginning about taking my head off. Like, he's like. He's like, something, something. If you take my head off. And. And Stallone's like. Stallone's like, oh, keep that in mind. And then in the end, he takes. Takes his head off. He kept it in mind for 37 years or whatever.
Paul Scheer
A lot of time to think while he was alive in that block of ice.
Jason Mantzoukas
People go insane in solitary confinement. People go insane.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, he.
Jason Mantzoukas
For 37 years, he's been awake and comes out and is like, let's get.
June Diane Raphael
To work and ask to be put in a moment of frustration. Says, put me back in the fridge.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. All right, here we go. Not even the freezer, just the fridge.
June Diane Raphael
Fridge.
Paul Scheer
He wants a lesser sentence. Okay, Question. Comment. Name. Here you go.
June Diane Raphael
My name is Merlennis, and I'm not very good with names of cars. But there's one scene when they're on the ground and they have this, like, awesome red car. Like, how is these, like, poor people have this awesome car? And how they got it down there and then.
Paul Scheer
And how did that.
June Diane Raphael
How did they get it down there? And just like. That's my question.
Paul Scheer
Like, it's an amazing question that basically, the Mole people had an elevator underneath a Chevy dealership that just in case they needed to.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, because we see them go down there a number of times, and the only way it seems to get down, they seem to be able to get down is through, like, a manhole covers cover.
Wyatt Cenac
But also with that, like, Wesley Snipes runs away. And Stallone, rather than give chase, is like, wait, hold on a second. Can you start that elevator up? Because I really want to drive that GTO right now. Like, I know I need to stop this terrorist that's, like, trying to kill me and everybody, but I want to give this thing a test drive. Is that cool? Dennis Leary. I know I'm supposed to be protecting you, but is it all right if I. Like, I know I'm gonna catch him. He's on foot. There's no way. I'm just. Just let me put the car in the elevator. Hey, move past De La Huerta. Move your fucking burger shop so I can drive in there.
Jason Mantzoukas
Did anybody else think it was weird that the Dennis Leary people, the underground dwellers, their way of checking in on in the real world is to have, like, a periscope that pops out of the ground and that twice. Sylvester Stallone sees it randomly and is like, hey, what is that thing? And everybody else is like, what are you talking about? And it's like, I guess it was nothing.
Paul Scheer
He's a groundhog in 1996. He's a great groundhog hunter. And I was going to say this is my favorite part. When he goes underground for the first time, Sylvester Stallone lets up the sewer grate and goes. Smells like biscuits and gravy.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yep. But it shouldn't.
Paul Scheer
No, it doesn't. If it does, then that's a beautiful place to live, but did not seem like it match.
Jason Mantzoukas
Especially because then he manages to find a hamburger which he's been craving forever.
Paul Scheer
Oh, Nick. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Y' all done with show?
June Diane Raphael
Where at?
Jason Mantzoukas
Everybody text Nick Kroll. No, we're not done with the show, asshole.
Paul Scheer
Very close. Very close. But not yet.
Jason Mantzoukas
He eats a hamburger. Turns out it's made of rat meat.
Paul Scheer
But you know what? It's still pretty good.
June Diane Raphael
He doesn't mind it.
Paul Scheer
Here we go. This is your final question. A lot of pressure on you to bring it home.
Wyatt Cenac
No, we've gotta get to Nick Kroll, Guys.
Jason Mantzoukas
Nick Harper.
Wyatt Cenac
Yo.
June Diane Raphael
Texting.
Paul Scheer
Go, guys. All right, here we go. Your name, what you would say to Sylvester Stallone when he was on trial.
Jason Mantzoukas
And your question?
Wyatt Cenac
My name is John. I'd say it's not your fault.
Paul Scheer
Good answer.
Jason Mantzoukas
And my question is, could you guys just briefly talk about how Sandra Bullock tries to say, like, these 90s phrases but says them wrong at a certain level?
Wyatt Cenac
What's there to say after Simon Phoenix.
Jason Mantzoukas
In a hole and Says, I'm gonna go down there. I'm gonna blow him. I wrote down a bunch of those. They're all terrible.
Paul Scheer
Again, like. Again. No, no, Lang, like, language has not devolved. No, like, I'm gonna blow him. I'm gonna blow him.
Jason Mantzoukas
She says at one point, she says, it looks like you've meet your match. What?
Wyatt Cenac
And she says, take this jab and shovel it.
Jason Mantzoukas
It.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
Like there is a weapon. She would know that. Those are wrong statements.
Wyatt Cenac
To anyone who's. To anyone who is like over 45 in that society, they, like, they would know those phrases. Like you. Yeah, like you.
Jason Mantzoukas
They have jingles from our time, right? Why don't they have, like, a book of phrases from our time?
Wyatt Cenac
Also, why don't they have the music from our time?
Paul Scheer
They clearly have.
Wyatt Cenac
They have posters for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. But not no music. Yeah. Was that like. Was that the end? Like, oh, that's music. Can't get any better. Let's shut it down. Shut down the studios, everybody. We're not listening to music anymore. Just jingles.
Jason Mantzoukas
Old jingles too. Like jingles from like the 40s. Jingles.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Not jingles from our time.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, like oldies is for them from the 40s. Right, but just jingles. Not songs.
Wyatt Cenac
But not the. Yeah, and not like the good ones like by Menon.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, like, that's great. Solid.
Paul Scheer
If you want to watch some deleted scenes of Dan Cortez singing by men and you can see it.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Obviously we had opinions on this movie, but they're not shared by everyone. Now it is time for a second opinion. These are five stories reviews called from Amazon.com People who felt very strongly about it. There's some good ones in here. This one's from JTS titled Beauty and the Ciro Cop. I think Jimin's like, well, okay, Ciro Cop is not right.
June Diane Raphael
This is an all cast cryo.
Jason Mantzoukas
Does she mean cryo?
Paul Scheer
I think she means cryo. It's spelled Ciro though, so.
Wyatt Cenac
And does she maybe mean.
Paul Scheer
There's always a constant in these Amazon reviews.
Jason Mantzoukas
Here we go.
Paul Scheer
All caps. Sandra's sweet innocence takes the edge off this tough guy film. She is the Spartan what Adrian spelt like Alderaan was to Rocky. The special effects are great. Some of the dialogue lags at times, but the strengths of the characters carry this one through. Check out the end.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Wyatt Cenac
All right. Sandra Bullock wrote that review. Sandra Bullock wrote.
Paul Scheer
I own this title and have seen it six times. Worth a sequel? I think so. Good. Fair.
Jason Mantzoukas
Do you think any of the people who Listen to our podcast. When they hear about the movie, go and write five star reviews hoping that they might get picked.
Paul Scheer
I never take anything that's written past like 2009.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well done.
Paul Scheer
So that is so nice.
Jason Mantzoukas
Try asking.
Paul Scheer
I really like this movie. A good thing about it is there is profanity, but they don't abuse it like they do in Pulp Fiction. In that movie they say the F word so many times it loses its meaning. Also, Snipes is pretty funny at times throughout the film. Five stars. Okay, this is my. I think this goes up in the pantheon of like favorite Amazon reviews because it really takes a turn from geek mom. This is my most favorite movie ever. There are so many quotes in this movie that are relevant today to today's society. It's a great action flick with some of my most favorite actors and the crazy humor in it makes looking at what we're going to through today almost laughable. I wish more people had seen it. And then they'll understand what's wrong with today's Congress and why they need to stop voting for progressives asap. This is the kind of world we'd be forced to live in if the progressives continued to thrive. Nothing would be legal and government would monitor and pay for everything you do. Truly frightening. Five stars.
Wyatt Cenac
I will say. Will say. Watching this movie, there was something about it that felt like, oh yeah, if you listen to Glenn Beck, like Glenn Beck would love this movie as like, oh, this is the dystopian future that like liberals want because, oh, everyone wears the same outfits and there's only one restaurant. Like you get like, like there's no money anymore. And I agree with it.
June Diane Raphael
But what we can't from in 96 was so terrible.
Wyatt Cenac
Right. And in 96 that was Clinton.
Paul Scheer
Right?
June Diane Raphael
Right.
Wyatt Cenac
That was, that was like, oh, Clinton caused Hollywood to catch fire.
Paul Scheer
And then no planes to land in LAX anymore. No commercial airliners. Yeah.
Wyatt Cenac
Like they were like, everything about the movie seemed like a liberal complaint. Like, it sucks now that Clinton's president. Everything's on fire. And then it only gets gets worse. We can't curse no more.
Paul Scheer
This movie asked a lot of questions and did not do a lot of answers. I feel like we got the bottom. Would you recommend seeing it? I know I would.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Recommend. Strong recommend.
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah. I mean if the choice is that or like winter's bone. Because demolition. Demolition.
Paul Scheer
Even though Sandra Bo could to get a winter bone. Right?
Wyatt Cenac
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
With that John Spartan ice dick.
Jason Mantzoukas
And by that we mean her father's penis in her body also.
Wyatt Cenac
Also Sting did the theme song.
Paul Scheer
Oh, my God, you're right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Paul Scheer
How about that?
Wyatt Cenac
And I wonder if Sting asked. Like, they were like, hey, Sting, you know, Sandra Bullock's character is, like, into 90s things. We were thinking about putting up a poster view. No, it's all right. Don't do it. Don't, don't.
Paul Scheer
We really want to prominently feature 10 Sumner's tales. Nope, that's fine. That's cool.
Wyatt Cenac
Hey, here's a Red Hot chili pepper.
Jason Mantzoukas
Soul Cages. You don't want us to put soul cages up?
Paul Scheer
I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm going to continue having tantric sex with my wife. You cannot put any of my movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Really? You sure? No Soul Cages.
Paul Scheer
Absolutely not. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
Jason Mantzoukas
I saw that tour. Guys saw that tour. Just saying.
Wyatt Cenac
Do you think he does the theme song in concert?
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, I kind of. No, wait a second. Can somebody. Can somebody settle something? Did he write it for this, or is that a police song? It is a police song that was appropriated for this.
Wyatt Cenac
All right.
Paul Scheer
Even worse, Sting, you did it. You did it. You did it the best way you could. Well, thank you guys so much for coming. Adam Pally here, and I'm John Gabris. We're a couple actors and best friends who you may know as the host of the TV show 101 Places to.
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Episode: Demolition Man LIVE! w/ Wyatt Cenac (HDTGM Matinee)
Release Date: August 12, 2025
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Guest: Wyatt Cenac
In this lively episode of How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas welcome comedian and actor Wyatt Cenac to dissect the cult classic action film Demolition Man (1993). The trio dives deep into the movie's peculiarities, memorable moments, and the broader societal themes it attempts to satirize.
The discussion kicks off with the hosts critiquing the film's clichéd opening, where the Hollywood sign inexplicably bursts into flames. Paul Scheer humorously remarks, “In the future, we're all pussies. Thank goodness” (01:29), setting a playful tone for their analysis. Wyatt Cenac adds, “Not just being hater” (01:48), highlighting the show's comedic approach to the film's exaggerated elements.
The hosts delve into the film’s protagonists and antagonists. Paul Scheer points out the hyper-violent nature of Sylvester Stallone’s character, John Spartan, contrasting it with the sanitized future society: “Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes are gonna blow shit up” (01:29). June Diane Raphael questions the initial absence of real chaos, observing, “Nothing else around it was on fire” (03:24), emphasizing the disproportionate depiction of violence.
Wyatt Cenac discusses Wesley Snipes' portrayal of Simon Phoenix, noting his effortless combat skills: “he goes like, you know what? Never mind. Diet. Diet. Just diet. Blonde diet” (02:08). Jason Mantzoukas humorously critiques Phoenix’s unrealistic ability to dismantle large groups effortlessly: “he goes like, bam, bam, bam, bam” (05:49).
Several iconic scenes are highlighted with humor:
Demolition Man is examined for its portrayal of a dystopian future devoid of violence yet stripped of personal freedoms. June Diane Raphael reflects, “But you're in a position though, you're put in a position where it's like as an audience member, you're hearkening back to the better times of 1996” (31:02), discussing the film’s critique of societal controls.
The hosts also touch upon the implications of technology in the future society depicted in the movie:
Listeners’ questions propel deeper dives into the film’s inconsistencies and hidden jokes:
Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reflect on the film’s enduring appeal despite its flaws. Paul Scheer concludes, “This movie asked a lot of questions and did not do a lot of answers. I feel like we got the bottom. Would you recommend seeing it? I know I would” (86:45). Jason Mantzoukas echoes the sentiment, “Yes. Recommend. Strong recommend” (86:47), emphasizing that Demolition Man remains a beloved piece of fantastical cinema worthy of its cult status.
This episode offers a comprehensive and humorous exploration of Demolition Man, dissecting its narrative choices, character dynamics, and satirical undertones. With Wyatt Cenac's insightful participation, the hosts provide both laughter and thoughtful critique, making it a must-listen for fans of bad movies and sharp comedy alike.
Note: All timestamps correspond to moments within the podcast transcript where notable discussions or quotes occur.