Escape from L.A. LIVE! w/ D’Arcy Carden & Dan Levy (Classic)

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How Did This Get Made?

Escape from L.A. LIVE! w/ D’Arcy Carden & Dan Levy

Podcast Summary

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In this live episode, Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, and guest hosts D’Arcy Carden and Dan Levy (sitting in for June Diane Raphael) take a hilarious deep dive into Escape from L.A., John Carpenter’s notorious 1996 sequel to his beloved cult classic Escape from New York. Broadcasting from Largo at the Coronet in Los Angeles, the panel gleefully examines what makes this extravagant, baffling, and ultimately infamous movie such a mess, comparing it to both its predecessor and to modern blockbusters. The episode is an affectionate roast, mixing sharp film criticism, wild tangents, deep-cut trivia, and recurring gags about Kurt Russell’s “fuckability,” awful special effects, and the logic-defying plot.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Plot Parallels & Snake Plissken’s Return

• Paul Scheer (02:34): “Snake Plissken is back. And not only is he back, he's in essentially the same movie. Few differences. So minor. So, so minor.”
• The group immediately jokes at length about the confusion over the character’s name (“Plissken,” not “Pilskin” or “Plotnick”), establishing the absurd tone for the episode.
• D’Arcy Carden, having watched both films back to back, observes: “They're the same movie. It's like a formula and they just placed in different characters” (12:06).

Love/Hate with the Movie

• The hosts repeatedly note their conflicted feelings about Escape from L.A.:
  • Paul: “I have a real love-hate relationship with this movie. Because I feel like there are moments, a real will they, won't they?” (05:44)
  • D’Arcy: “Fuck this movie. I’m mad. I’m mad at you guys for making me watch this.” (08:55)
• Jason and Dan liken it to watching a romantic comedy where Paul is tempted to “fuck the movie” (05:52).

Comparison to Escape from New York

• Escape from New York is lauded as a classic, atmospheric cult movie, whereas the sequel is described as a mess with little new to say.
  • Jason: “Escape from New York is fantastic to this day. I watched it, like, last year, and I was like, holds up.” (10:43)
  • D’Arcy: “I watched Escape from New York being like, dis not good. And then I watched Escape from LA. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. That was great. This is terrible.” (10:26)
• The hosts riff on the non-existent Escape from Cleveland that is mentioned as an in-joke in both films (12:24)—Jason: “I will straight up personally finance Escape from Cleveland” (12:25).

Kurt Russell’s Performance & The Concept of “Fuckability”

• Kurt Russell’s seemingly ageless appearance and sexual energy become recurring comedic fodder.
  • D’Arcy: “The best part of both movies is how fucking hot he is, by the way.” (15:28)
  • D’Arcy confesses: “I realized while I was watching this movie that maybe Kurt Russell is the first dude I ever wanted to fuck, like, as a kid. … I think watching these movies make me not want to fuck him at all.” (16:13)
  • Group riffing includes “socket locket” jokes about Snake’s eyepatch and eye loss (07:18), quickly becoming a running gag.

Special Effects Ridicule

• The consensus: Escape from L.A. has some of the worst special effects of any 90s movie—shockingly, it cost nearly as much as Jurassic Park.
  • Paul: “This movie is arguably one of the worst special effects I've ever seen.” (24:56)
  • Jason: “It’s the level of the VR in Lawnmower Man.” (29:17)
  • D’Arcy is stunned: “Even though the first one was made, what, 10 years before? The special effects work so much better in the first one than the second one.” (25:14)
  • Fact drop: Escape from L.A. had a $50 million budget vs. $65 million for Jurassic Park (25:18).

Plot Absurdities & Worldbuilding Flaws

• The team mocks the convoluted backstory and the “island of deplorables” concept—disbelief over how an earthquake leads to a lifetime presidency (21:02).
• Jason: “As long as Snake Plissken is alive, more and more of America will become island.” (21:18)
• D’Arcy: “I feel like they didn't…if that was true, they'd probably get into it more, but it was like, dude, can't die.” (21:43)
• Ridiculous sequences—like the underwater Universal Studios/Jaws gag and the infamous CGI surfing/tsunami scene—get roasted at length (27:34, 56:07).

Iconic Bad Scenes: Basketball and Plastic Surgery

• The group fixates on the infamous “basketball challenge” scene and the illogical rules:
  • “His challenge is to make 10 points on a full-size basketball court. So he's gotta make a basket every 10 seconds.” (51:57)
  • Jason: “The crowd is fenced in, shooting the one person on the court, AKA shooting each other today.” (52:29)
• The Bruce Campbell “plastic surgery” sequence is both loathed and held up as prescient:
  • Jason: “I'm looking at Real Housewives.” (42:57)
  • Dan: “I knew, though, as the scene was happening, he’s gonna grab her boobs and say, those are real. … and then he did it, and it was great.” (43:06)

Celebrity & Audience Interactions

• Peter Fonda’s embarrassing cameo is hilariously dissected (34:49).
• Steve Buscemi (“The Boosh is loose!” 47:44) plays an unclassifiable agent/scam artist. “I thought he was gonna be like Cabbie from the first movie, but he was not like Cabbie.” (48:35)
• The audience Q&A turns meta, with audience cosplayers, running jokes about “socket locket,” and the panel teasing “Blake Plissken”—a fan in full Snake attire (65:04-67:16).
• Jason: “You left the house with an eye patch in your pocket.” (66:14)

Snake Plissken’s Invulnerability & “Hunk” Status

• The panel satirizes how Snake survives everything, from disease to bullets to hang gliding into a stadium, with no plausible explanation.
• The arbitrary disease he’s injected with is revealed to just be the flu—“If he had to blow his nose throughout the entire movie, the most unattractive thing, like, is right.” (57:54)
• On why he’s so famous in-universe: “Everyone knows him everywhere he goes. Snake Blitzki. … Like, you're a tiny hunk of a man.” (59:02, 59:20)

Franchise That Never Was (Escape from Mars/Earth)

• Paul shares that a planned Escape from Mars (and later, Earth) was canned after L.A. bombed, with John Carpenter shifting to “Ghosts of Mars.” (40:47)
• Jason: “This movie is a metaphor for a lot of things.” (42:26)

Would They Recommend Seeing It?

• D’Arcy: “Don’t watch it in front of your dog. Would I recommend this to anyone for this purpose? …no.” (83:41)
• Dan & Jason: “100% yes... And I agree. Watch them both back to back, you know, and if you haven't come by the end of the first one, you're in the second one—or in Snake Plitzken's eye socket.” (84:06; 84:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Snake’s Eyepatch / “Socket Locket”:
  • Jason: “I want to see the socket. I want people to talk about Snake Plissken’s socket.” (07:04)
  • “That’s my socket locket. Guys, I’m on fire.” (07:18)
• On the Special Effects:
  • Paul: “This movie is arguably one of the worst special effects I’ve ever seen.” (24:56)
• On Basketball Scene:
  • Paul: “His challenge is to make 10 points … every 10 seconds.” (51:57)
  • Jason: “Cuervo Jones at one point goes, he's getting tired now. I was like, no, not really.” (52:05)
  • D’Arcy: “According to Cuervo. Every fucking person died in that challenge.” (55:30)
• On the Disease Plot Point:
  • Dan: “He just has mono, basically. …” (44:59)
  • Paul: “Spoiler alert. It's not really a poison.” (57:26)
• On Snake’s Fame:
  • Jason: “Everyone knows him everywhere he goes. Snake Blitzki.” (59:02)
• On the Planned Franchise:
  • Paul: “It was gonna be Escape from New York, Escape from la, Escape from Mars.” (40:47)
• On the Film Industry:
  • Paul: “I think it's a cool idea. And I think that this one, especially, you know, as people talk about, oh, California should separate from the United States and all that sort of stuff is interesting. I think the power structure of it, the social world of it is really great. It just feels like … fuck it.” (83:00)
• On Kurt Russell’s Hair:
  • Jason: “The hair is amazing.” (67:33)

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Key Timestamps

Introducing the Movie & Panel

• [02:34] Paul welcomes the crowd, introduces Escape from L.A., and mispronounces “Plissken”
• [03:31] Jason makes first “jerks!” entrance

Plot, Snake, & Tone

• [08:03–12:26] Panel breaks down the plot and explains the formulaic similarities to Escape from New York
• [15:28–16:43] Discussion of Kurt Russell’s agelessness and physical appeal

Special Effects Discussion

• [24:40–29:10] In-depth roast of the visual effects and Universal Studios/Jaws bit
• [25:18] “Escape from L.A. had a $50 million budget vs. $65 million for Jurassic Park”

Iconic Bad Scenes

• [51:46–56:07] Exhaustive—and hilarious—recap of the basketball sequence
• [42:34] Bruce Campbell plastic surgery scene (“I loved the scene…”)

Audience Q&A & Interactions

• [65:04–67:16] Snake Plissken cosplayer enters the fray and gets roasted by Mantzoukas
• [67:20–72:35] Audience questions on Kurt Russell’s hair, Snake’s invulnerability, and skills (surfing/hang gliding/basketball)

Wrapping Up & Legacy

• [83:00–83:53] Would the panel recommend viewing? Brief defense of the movie’s “interesting” concept but consensus that it’s a mess.
• [84:24] “Or in Snake Plitzken’s eye socket.” [Running gag conclusion]
• [87:20] Brands, plugs, and show thanks

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Final Thoughts

How Did This Get Made? delivers a loving evisceration of Escape from L.A., highlighting its place as both a weird time capsule and a trainwreck follow-up to a cult classic. The panel’s irresistible chemistry, willingness to talk about “fuckability,” and mixture of genuine affection with comedic scorn make this essential for both fans of the podcast and connoisseurs of enjoyable cinematic disasters.

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Transcript

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[Paul Scheer]

up? Hello people of Earth and hello people of Largo. We are live at our LA home here at Largo at the Coronet. If you're ever in LA definitely come out and check out Largo. They have amazing shows here all the time. And tonight they have an amazing show that talks about the return of a character that people were begging for. That's right. Snake Pilskin is back. And not only is he back, he's in essentially the same movie. Few differences. So minor. So, so minor. We're gonna talk about this tonight with a very exciting all star panel. But first, let me welcome my co host, Jason Manz.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's up, jerks?

[Paul Scheer]

What's up, Jason?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul. Paul. You may be shocked to find out that you've already mispronounced the lead character's name.

[Paul Scheer]

Plissken. Plissken.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not Pilskin.

[Paul Scheer]

I said like, I thought it was like Rumpelstiltskin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You said, well, cause he's.

[Paul Scheer]

He says a lot of the times call him Snake and I take that literally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I call him Snake, you call him Snake.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm not worried about the placebo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You call him Snake. Or sp.

[Paul Scheer]

If I'm not mispronouncing your name, something's wrong. That's the way I live my life.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's how we'll know you've been replaced.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. When some. It was a habit that my dad had that I have now adopted 100%.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're all becoming our parents.

[Paul Scheer]

Not cool. As I sat in his Ford Escort, I was like, that's not gonna be me. And now it is. I wanna know how to pronounce people's names.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Somewhere across the country, he is wearing a Steve Harvey sweatshirt and his ears are burning.

[Paul Scheer]

I am. My dad doesn't even know the beauty of Family Feud. No, my dad's a great guy. I love him very much. He's the best. But we both can't pronounce people's names. All right, so joining us tonight also, since June cannot be here tonight, we have a very special guest. A. How did this get made All Star? You know him from the Glitter episode or his brand new CISO comedy special, Lion. Please welcome Dan Levy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoops. What's up, Dan?

[Paul Scheer]

What's up? Chillin. How are you?

[Dan Levy]

I'm. I'm not great. Cause I watched this movie earlier today and.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're welcome.

[Paul Scheer]

It was.

[Dan Levy]

It was also subtitles, so it was really confusing. I couldn't turn off. So the whole thing was like gunshot, gunshot, gunshot, gunshot, gunshot.

[Paul Scheer]

That. That is the worst movie to watch on subtitles because it is. It's a lot of action being narrated. That is. Oof. Man, this movie is interesting.

[Dan Levy]

I have a real love.

[Paul Scheer]

We're gonna get into it. I Have a real love hate relationship with this movie. Because I feel like there are moments,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

a real will they, won't they?

[Paul Scheer]

I may.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul's gonna fuck this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

I might. I might.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June's not here.

[Paul Scheer]

Get ready for me to

[Jason Mantzoukas]

get ready to watch a guy fuck a movie.

[Dan Levy]

Sorry, June. I want to pillskin.

[Paul Scheer]

I take a vhf, a VHS cover box and I just do my business from.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, that's how he lost his eye.

[Paul Scheer]

He lost his eye from like a really bad paper cut in the eyeball. Ooh. Whoa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why don't do that.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, it never came off. The eye patch never came off?

[Paul Scheer]

No, never.

[Dan Levy]

All the shit he went through, you'd think at one point.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, here. Well, we should talk about that eye patch because I also feel like why he's not. Why would he be so vain? I want to see that, like that cloudy water eye that he's got underneath there. Like, what's going on?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe there's nothing even better. The socket just. I want to see the socket. I want people to talk about Snake Plissken.

[Dan Levy]

Socket.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. He's like, I got to put some salve, a salve on my socket so it doesn't dry out. Got to keep my. A moist socket.

[Dan Levy]

Look at my sockets.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, what's that? It looks like a little piece of jewelry in there. That's my socket locket. Guys, I'm on fire.

[Paul Scheer]

The show hasn't even introduced all the guests and you're getting entire on stage

[Jason Mantzoukas]

and I am crushing, killing it all.

[Paul Scheer]

I think I. I think we need

[Dan Levy]

to end the show after socket lock it. I don't think we can socket lock it.

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, we also have a very special guest. She's hilariously funny. You know her from that brand new show, the Good Place on NBC. Please welcome Darcy Cardon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Welcome, Darcy.

[Dan Levy]

Darcy.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so real quick, the plot breakdown of this movie. Snake Plissken is back.

[Darcy Carden]

What's his last name?

[Paul Scheer]

And it's Plissken. Or, you know, now I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it.

[Dan Levy]

Oh, I think Pilskin. I said Pilskin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul said Pilskin earlier.

[Paul Scheer]

Hi there. Yeah, yeah. Snake is back. It's essentially the same plot as Escape from New York, but this time it's la and he's changed pants. That's all you really need to know. If you've not seen it.

[Darcy Carden]

Barely even changed pants.

[Paul Scheer]

He comes in with his pants from his.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's forced to change pants. But he showed up in the same pants and they were like, we're going to do different pants.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And they tried to just get out of it and be like, I'll take the jacket. And they're like, you're going to wear the pants.

[Darcy Carden]

The vibe of the pants were the same.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I felt like he was upset that he got in that new clothes, but then later on, he seemed to be really much like, I got to get my jacket back.

[Dan Levy]

I want.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I like these clothes now.

[Darcy Carden]

Fuck this movie. I'm mad. I'm mad at you guys for making me watch this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, fuck you. You thought. You thought something exciting was happening to you. Instead, you're being punished.

[Paul Scheer]

I remember a supreme disappointment in the theater watching this movie. Like, I felt like I was like, I'm gonna go see Escape from la. Oh. And I really. And the only thing that

[Dan Levy]

you were attracted.

[Paul Scheer]

I was fucking the box. I was fucking the COVID box with the box.

[Darcy Carden]

You planned on fucking the box before

[Paul Scheer]

you even got to the box.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You were fucking the box of Escape from New York being like, I'm gonna see Escape from la, you fucking dirty little bitch.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe you can't be out of one eye, but you'll see this dick going in his cover.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I fuck you, but I take the other one out to the movies.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I gotta say, though. But this movie, we can all say that Escape from New York is like a classic cult movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Colt.

[Paul Scheer]

Run movie, right? Great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Amazing. Escape from New York.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Amazing movie.

[Darcy Carden]

I guess I'm just so young, Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

I agree. I think that. Boy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's how it starts.

[Paul Scheer]

I think I'm in the middle of the two of you. Because it was cool. It was of the time. But rewatching it now, not.

[Darcy Carden]

That's the hard part.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, run.

[Darcy Carden]

Still no.

[Dan Levy]

Terrible.

[Paul Scheer]

I felt like the thing or something like that. Another.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Flawless.

[Paul Scheer]

Flawless.

[Darcy Carden]

I had never seen. So, my.

[Paul Scheer]

You watch them both back to back.

[Darcy Carden]

I watched them back to back. Back. And I had never seen Escape from New York. So I watched Escape from New York being like, dis not good. And then I watched. And then I watched Escape from la. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. That was great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

This is terrible.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The only. And I see what you mean, except for that Escape from New York is

[Darcy Carden]

fantastic to this day.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I watched it, like, last year, and I was like, holds up.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. But now it must have been nice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I might as well be watching Face off or Con Air.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey.

[Dan Levy]

Face Off.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's.

[Dan Levy]

No, no. Face off is better than every one of them. Face off is great.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Face off is great. Yeah. I'm not Gonna argue with you. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is better than Face Off?

[Paul Scheer]

Nothing. You.

[Dan Levy]

I love Face Off.

[Paul Scheer]

I would argue that Fast and Furious. The one where they have the safe attached to the car is up there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or five.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, six. Six.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Brazil.

[Paul Scheer]

Five.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Cause four is the serious one. Then five, they're like, oh, shit, this is what we should do, guys. And now they have fucking submarines.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Remember when we lost Giselle?

[Darcy Carden]

Is that a movie?

[Paul Scheer]

No, that's a character.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a character in the festival.

[Paul Scheer]

Gal Gadot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wonder Woman. Remember when Wonder Woman was Gisele and she was there?

[Darcy Carden]

I think she.

[Paul Scheer]

I guess she is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I saw her in a Whole Foods recently. She looked alive.

[Paul Scheer]

She only asked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, giselle, Are you getting sushi?

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so you watch Escape from New York and Escape from LA back to back. So I want to just talk about that experience in the moment. Because they are the same movie, right?

[Darcy Carden]

They're the same movie. They're the same movie. It's like a. There's like a formula and they just like placed in different characters in different like so.

[Paul Scheer]

And at the end. How does Escape from New York end? He gets his freedom. This movie hypothesizes that he just kind of goes to Cleveland.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

They keep referencing Cleveland.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're like, we know you were in Cleveland, guys. I will straight up personally finance Escape from Cleveland.

[Darcy Carden]

Cleveland. It needs to happen. It needs to happen. Actually, that's the way to, like, get this back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That is not at all a bad idea.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, but isn't that everyone who lives in Cleveland just trying to escape Cleveland?

[Paul Scheer]

You know, the whole reason why they referenced Cleveland is it's an in joke from a friend of John Carpenter's who knew a guy from Cleveland named Snake Plissken.

[Darcy Carden]

Jesus Christ.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, really?

[Dan Levy]

Whoa. That's a big joke for that guy.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Giant. Cause it's not even like a guy named Snake. It's a guy named Snake Plissken.

[Darcy Carden]

That guy's life is like, kind of fucked now.

[Paul Scheer]

Or is it the best life ever? Yeah,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

yeah, I totally fucked Snake Plisskin. But here's Kurt Russell.

[Paul Scheer]

You mean?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, the guy that.

[Paul Scheer]

It's based on a real scuzzy. A real Scuzzback.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's like the guy. That's the guy that was Kramer.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Running the real tours.

[Dan Levy]

He's like, giving tours around Cleveland. I'm the real Snake Plisske.

[Paul Scheer]

Escape from anything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, look at me.

[Paul Scheer]

Except paying my alimony check. Haha.

[Dan Levy]

Anyways, this bus rival cost $50.

[Darcy Carden]

I watched the movie two nights ago. And I cannot remember how New York ended. How did it end?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, how about this, nerds? How does Escape from New York end?

[Darcy Carden]

How did it end? What is it?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you can tell us. You can have a spoiler. Just spoil New York. Let me come to you because I don't think your voice will carry in the voice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the same guy from the last show. I'm gonna punch him right in the dick.

[Paul Scheer]

Who are you? Who are you? All right, this guy is wearing a Plissken shirt. This is it. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, here we go. Gets it.

[Paul Scheer]

Much like this movie, he's asked to retrieve something and of course he kind of fucks with everybody at the end.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't want to spoil everything.

[Paul Scheer]

Spoil the first one, okay? In this one, he may or may not fuck with everybody, but he does do that in the previous. He's asked to get a tape, right? A cassette tape, right? You know, early 80s.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a mixtape.

[Darcy Carden]

It's a song. No, it is.

[Dan Levy]

It's a love tape for his girlfriend.

[Paul Scheer]

It's just smash mouth, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's all body, guys.

[Paul Scheer]

Exactly like, he flips out exactly the same and he kind of walks away. The president in that movie is proudly playing the tape, right? It's supposed to be the secret to clean energy and it's going to change the world. And it ends up being the Cabbies character. Steve Buscemi analog from the first. Wow. They really copied it down.

[Darcy Carden]

It was exactly the same.

[Paul Scheer]

He walks away and you see him pulling the tape out of the other one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's screwed over the system of the government.

[Darcy Carden]

That's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, that's right.

[Darcy Carden]

God damn, it's so boring.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It fucking. It's fucking great.

[Paul Scheer]

And then the only other. The only other question I have though, too, besides the movies being exactly the same, except for different coasts, is does he look any fucking older than. He looks exactly the same.

[Darcy Carden]

It's crazy. He looks so good. I mean, the best part of both movies is how fucking hot he is, by the way.

[Dan Levy]

By the way, he is very still.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That hot.

[Dan Levy]

He looks great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was in Furious 8 or whatever. Yeah, right. It was the last one. Looks great.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason and I did a show in Telluride. They were shooting the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, Filate.

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, Filate. There any of that crazy ass beard and muscle.

[Darcy Carden]

Great.

[Paul Scheer]

Looks great.

[Darcy Carden]

He looks great.

[Dan Levy]

His arms look amazing.

[Paul Scheer]

No, he left real quick.

[Darcy Carden]

Real quick.

[Paul Scheer]

Was not up for a good old fuck around improv show. I don't. I don't mean.

[Darcy Carden]

I don't mean to like, objectify him And I'm sorry to like, keep talking about sex and stuff like that.

[Paul Scheer]

No, it's a fun.

[Darcy Carden]

I realized while I was watching this movie that maybe Kurt Russell is the first dude I ever wanted to fuck, like, as a kid.

[Paul Scheer]

Me too.

[Darcy Carden]

And not just like, I have a

[Paul Scheer]

crush on the computer.

[Darcy Carden]

Who wore tennis shoes, maybe like from overboard or something, where I was like, it wasn't just like, I have a crush on him. I was like, I want to fuck that guy. Yeah, right. And I think that these movies. So I think I wanted to fuck Kurt Russell my whole life. I think watching these movies make me not want to fuck him at all.

[Paul Scheer]

The old reversal. It might be the quality of these movies bring down his fuck abilities.

[Darcy Carden]

I. I do think that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hang on. Ladies agree or disagree.

[Paul Scheer]

Or men wait. On.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or men wait. Yeah. First of all, fight, fight, fight. Kiss, kiss, kiss. Kiss

[Darcy Carden]

your eyes.

[Dan Levy]

He has great arms. He's wearing a cape like jacket.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, he's in the same, literally the same costume he wore 15 years earlier for sure. So his body has not changed in 15 years.

[Darcy Carden]

Those arms. He looks incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

And that.

[Dan Levy]

I mean, he does have like a rapey kind of voice, though. That's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What?

[Paul Scheer]

Come on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Plissken.

[Paul Scheer]

No way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Plissken's all about consent.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

about Snake was, are you guys cool?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are you guys best friends?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he told me to call him Snake.

[Dan Levy]

Wait, the Kurt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Russ, say the last name.

[Paul Scheer]

Kurt Russell Plotsnit.

[Darcy Carden]

That was with a bnick.

[Paul Scheer]

Snake Plotnick. No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How you doing, Snake Plotnick.

[Paul Scheer]

There was just a. There's just a moment Plotnick where like they're. They're flying into Disneyland at the end of the movie. Which, by the way, is a very long extension of la. Like I felt like all the way to Anaheim and. Well, I don't think. Yeah, it's like that's a real big break.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They didn't even see.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, they don't say it because they can't say it. But then Snake is like. Is that what I think it is? And I just like, this Snake knows about Disneyland because that character does not seem. Yeah, like you would know, like Snakes. What kind of ride do they have there?

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Paul Scheer]

The ghosts get in the car with you at the end. Trippy. Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Snake was like the guy who wrote the Thomas guy. Like, that's kind of who he is. No, and that wasn't funny.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I guess this is a very young, young audience.

[Darcy Carden]

Very hard.

[Dan Levy]

You guys have ways. Fuck you. I'm 35.

[Paul Scheer]

There you are. Very hot.

[Darcy Carden]

Very hot. Very hot.

[Paul Scheer]

But I do think the beginning of this movie, I was like, oh, wow. For this day and age, it seems more in line for what would be happening right now. It's like this island of deplorables and it's, you know. But I guess like Cliff Robertson's more of like a preacher. Although I don't really understand how an earthquake in California has installed a new president.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, right.

[Paul Scheer]

I love.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm president for life.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He is president for life.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

That was scary, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Because it doesn't seem like most of the country is affected. It's like New York's already an island.

[Darcy Carden]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Then the other earthquake happens and there's another island, and he's like, now I'm gonna be president for life.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm nervous. As long as Snake Plissken is alive, more and more of America will become island.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what's concerning to me.

[Dan Levy]

I kinda like that. I like Cahuenga beach, though. That seems. That seemed really cool. Welcome to Cahuenga Beach.

[Darcy Carden]

Do you feel like maybe that Snake can't die? Don't you?

[Paul Scheer]

Is he an immortal?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You think he's a Highlander?

[Darcy Carden]

I think he's just a tiny. I feel like they didn't. I mean, if that was true, they'd probably get into it more, but it was like, dude, can't die. I feel like I kept saying, I thought you were dead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Shoot automatic weapons at him from very close distances and miss him entirely.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Except for the one time that Steve Buscemi fires a gun during an earthquake and manages to wing him.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Which he's only done because he gets hit in the leg in the first movie. Right. So we gotta balance it out.

[Darcy Carden]

We did it the first movie. Got it. Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

They should have just gone for his other eye. Like, that's what I would do if I was trying to kill him.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, this movie, if his patch changed eyes throughout, it would be fine. No one would even come. I did find it interesting, though, because everyone who is shooting at him or chasing him, they give up real easy. Like, at one point, he runs out in front of a building, goes into a manhole, and the guy's like, ah, all right.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not only that, those guys. Those are the guys in robes. They run away in the opposite direction as if he's still shooting at them.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, man alive. Well, let's just see the opening here. This is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want to talk about Cuervo Jones.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, okay. Yeah. There is so much Tas Lima.

[Dan Levy]

Is that how you say your name?

[Darcy Carden]

I think so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want to talk about. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll just grab the opening to set the scene of how it all went down here. Here we go. 1998.

[Dan Levy]

In the late 20th century, hostile forces inside the United States grow strong. The city of Los Angeles is ravaged by crime and immorality. To protect and defend the the United States Police force is formed. An earthquake measuring 9.6 on the Richter scale hits at 12:59pm Aug. 23 in the year 2000. After the devastation, the Constitution is amended and the newly elected president accepts a lifetime term of office. Los Angeles island is declared no longer part of the United States and becomes the deportation point for all people found undesirable or unfit to live in the new moral America.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a fuckload of exposition. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a lot. Like even watching it now. Wow. I didn't even remember it being that dense.

[Dan Levy]

It's a lot.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

I feel like they should have saved money on like all those car accidents and worked more with the green screen because I feel like that those car accidents were. Seemed expensive.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, first of all, the car accidents in this movie are done like a Star Trek battle bridge scene. Like it's the cameras doing 90% of the earthquake work.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dan Levy]

Crazy earthquake.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throughout the movie, every time there was like a tremor or whatever, it was like the camera shake that camera.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

And the poor actors were like, whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no. What do you think about the. The special effects in this movie?

[Darcy Carden]

Flawless.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I could not tell when they were being utilized.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie is arguably one of the worst special effects I've ever seen.

[Dan Levy]

What about that shark, though? That looked real.

[Darcy Carden]

I mean, that was another interesting thing about watching them back to back is that even though the first one was made, what, 10 years before?

[Paul Scheer]

More probably 15 something.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It.

[Paul Scheer]

The. It.

[Darcy Carden]

The special effect effects work so much better in the first one than the second one.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this feels like the George Lucas school of special effects where there's special effects for no reason. And it feels. But now here's the fact that kind of blew me away. This and Jurassic park came out in the same year. What? And this had a budget of 50 million. What? And Jurassic park had a budget of 65.

[Darcy Carden]

$50 million difference.

[Paul Scheer]

Not much.

[Dan Levy]

Do you think Kurt Russell was like, like walking around the step, being like, they're making dinosaurs over there, but wait, let's see this shark.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or do you think they. Do you think John Carpenter saw Jurassic park and was like, uh.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, you guys, I'm gonna tell you

[Jason Mantzoukas]

something real quick about when, when I

[Darcy Carden]

saw Jurassic Park, I was in junior high. Sure, I wasn't a dumb dumb, but I was in junior high. And when I watched it during the. The, like, you know, the scene where he like takes her head and he's like, you know the brontosaurus scene. Look at That I had a thought in my little, like, junior high head,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

like, oh, I'm Kurt Russell.

[Dan Levy]

I'm going to this dinosaur.

[Darcy Carden]

No, I thought, like, oh, my God, I guess there really are dinosaurs somewhere.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I thought they were.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So you were stupid for real, though?

[Darcy Carden]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

You were. No.

[Dan Levy]

High school.

[Darcy Carden]

You did not say high school. I said junior high.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Junior high as a teenager.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, okay.

[Darcy Carden]

The young side of Junior High.

[Paul Scheer]

6.

[Dan Levy]

So you're 13 and you're thinking dinosaurs are real.

[Paul Scheer]

No, but. No, but I agree with you. They looked so real, and you'd never had seen anything like it.

[Darcy Carden]

And it holds up to this day.

[Paul Scheer]

It looks great.

[Darcy Carden]

It looks great.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie does not hold up to this.

[Darcy Carden]

No, no, no, no, it didn't hold up then.

[Paul Scheer]

That movie had barely made it to the theater, but apparently they hired a graphic house that never did special effects before.

[Dan Levy]

That's very clear.

[Darcy Carden]

That's so funny.

[Paul Scheer]

They never did it there. Yeah, these guys, we were behind them. So it seemed to me like just a bunch of people in a room just going, ah, shit. Shit.

[Dan Levy]

But by the way, Universal Studios there. Fuck, I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a movie where there's a character named Cuervo Jones, they're doing just fine. I would argue that they're doing work up to the level of the script.

[Darcy Carden]

The script is so bad.

[Paul Scheer]

Look at. Look at the. This is some of the.

[Dan Levy]

There's Universal Studios, by the way.

[Paul Scheer]

So the. The joke. This is that he's in a submarine. And he's in a submarine. And then Jaws. The. The shark, Jaws almost eats a submarine. As if to your point, Jaws is kept. The real shark is kept at Universal Studios, and the earthquake simply let him go free. Not that Jaws. That Universal is a. I didn't even make that connection.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I just thought there was a shark in the water.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, me too. I thought it was a.

[Paul Scheer]

No, I think you're right, clearly, to go to Universal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And then. And then this sub.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why is he able to. To fly or. Or drive any device or machine?

[Paul Scheer]

Because.

[Darcy Carden]

Because he's Snake Plitzkin. The most famous man in the world.

[Dan Levy]

What's his name? Plitzkin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This name is a real hurdle for us.

[Darcy Carden]

Plitzkin. Snake pit.

[Paul Scheer]

Snake.

[Dan Levy]

Pilskin.

[Darcy Carden]

Plitzkin.

[Dan Levy]

Snake Pilskin.

[Darcy Carden]

Plitskin.

[Dan Levy]

Plisskin. Snake Plissken.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Take Plissken.

[Dan Levy]

Look, the problem. His name is the least of our worries, by the way.

[Darcy Carden]

Plitzken.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Plissken.

[Paul Scheer]

Ew.

[Darcy Carden]

There's no T in it.

[Paul Scheer]

Plitzkin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like Klitskin.

[Paul Scheer]

Pllit Skin.

[Dan Levy]

Plissken. It's Plitzkin.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's technically Plitzken's. On the lotion on itself.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It rubs the. Plitzkin on it. It rubs the lotion on its. Plitzkin.

[Paul Scheer]

Just turn down the lights for a second. And people, if you're listening while driving, close your eyes and just picture this. This is the worst CGI scene right here. You just see it. You can just see it. That's it. It's. It looks like this is just CGI beach. That's. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ew. It's so. It's not even video games of the time where that bad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's the level of the VR in Lawnmower Man.

[Paul Scheer]

It's. But yet the VR that they posit in this movie makes no sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, that's just like video quality. You mean like when you. When he goes into, like, the girls where Ray Ann is doing Stealing the black box.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he goes in there and then there's a camera in the room that was taping her. But then who was taping the other? Who was in the VR?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where are the other 500 cameras that must be covering every bit of the room?

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, boy.

[Paul Scheer]

No, none. And he. And he seemingly just kind of like. It's. I don't know. His reaction to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He also seemed unfazed. Yeah, he was like, well, I guess I'm in virtual reality again.

[Paul Scheer]

He knows about Disney. He's into virtual reality. He writes for a tech blog. It's all what Snake Plotskin does.

[Darcy Carden]

Plot skin. That's it.

[Dan Levy]

Plot skin.

[Paul Scheer]

I love.

[Dan Levy]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

Not someone else.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's happening? What happened? What's happening? What are we doing right now?

[Dan Levy]

Someone yelled hotshot, maybe potshot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now what do we think, Hot shot?

[Dan Levy]

Hotshot.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe that's a basketball reference. Later on in the movie. We'll get to it.

[Darcy Carden]

Let's get to that basketball scene.

[Paul Scheer]

I wanna get to it. I wanna also just say, like, I love. Well, Cuervo Jones. We're first introduced to Cuervo Jones.

[Darcy Carden]

I don't hate him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You are, like, horny for the guys.

[Dan Levy]

I know.

[Darcy Carden]

I'm normal horny.

[Dan Levy]

You're all over the place.

[Darcy Carden]

I'm normal horny.

[Paul Scheer]

Wa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I'm normal horny Darcy Carden.

[Paul Scheer]

So your fuckability of Kurt Russell goes down, but that Cuervo Jones goes up. Well, Cuervo Jones does this thing when you first introduced him where he's throwing a dove and the dove clearly was not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a virtual reality as well. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

He's right. So he throws this dove. And I think the idea would be he throws a dove and it goes up.

[Dan Levy]

He did have a magician vibe to me.

[Darcy Carden]

Like he definitely felt magician not understand what was happening. I had to go back because I couldn't even understand what was happening.

[Paul Scheer]

What they were saying was she was communicating to him over like these video messages.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She had become isolated and lonely.

[Dan Levy]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Cuervo Jones. The Cuervo Jones. Did anybody else think of the steely dance song Every time they said Cuevo Jones Anyway, and that he was invading Rayan's. She'll AJ Langer will only be Rayanne Ray from. From My so Called Life Forever.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, it was hard to get past that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, does people. Do people not know that she's Rayanne?

[Darcy Carden]

You know that, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

She had the funky hair and it's super cool.

[Darcy Carden]

The best had to be at best stomach.

[Paul Scheer]

Come on.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, she did. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Come on.

[Paul Scheer]

Come on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anyway, he was communicating to her. That's how they feel. Like he got to her was through her VR.

[Paul Scheer]

Anyway, interest. Interesting thing about Utopia. Her character's name, Utopia. Oh, but wait. But the dove was not participating. So he goes to toss the dove up, but the dove just goes down. And they replay it so many times that you can't not notice the dove going like. Like it is the least impressive romantic gesture you could do. It's like pulling a dead rabbit out of your head. Like, ah, here's the odd thing about this. Goldie Han was supposed to be Utopia.

[Darcy Carden]

What on earth are you talking about?

[Paul Scheer]

She was in the hospital during some of the shooting of this for To. To. I know that makes no sense. Hold on, I'll get there.

[Darcy Carden]

Hot shot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, hot shot.

[Dan Levy]

Hot shot.

[Darcy Carden]

Hot shot.

[Dan Levy]

This crowd is getting out of control.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ooh, the late crowd is wasting slotskin.

[Paul Scheer]

They're hammered and Rowdy bet the shit up. And then I bring it home. And then they auditioned Kate Hudson. What? Yes.

[Darcy Carden]

Okay, so it was gonna be Goldie Hawn.

[Paul Scheer]

He wanted it to be Goldie Hawn. She couldn't do it. And they're like, well, let's audition my daughter to do it. And she didn't get it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She must have been very young, though.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, she must have been.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I feel like she would have been very young.

[Dan Levy]

She could do it. She's seven.

[Paul Scheer]

I bet you.

[Darcy Carden]

What year did she.

[Paul Scheer]

I bet you Utopia would have been the President's wife if it was the other way.

[Darcy Carden]

What year did this come in again?

[Paul Scheer]

96.

[Darcy Carden]

So she would have been like 15 16.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, maybe.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. That's. That's about normal. That'd be about right. I'd be like. That would mean she could do it.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Kate could do it.

[Darcy Carden]

And it's not like Kate could do it.

[Dan Levy]

Kate could do anything.

[Paul Scheer]

She said call her Kate.

[Darcy Carden]

And it's not. And Utopia. And Utopia. And plot Skin didn't have, like, a sexy relationship.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. She seemed to be engaged entirely with Cuervo Jones. The Cuervo Jones.

[Paul Scheer]

Quervo.

[Dan Levy]

She would have been so mad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A wonderful name they get.

[Paul Scheer]

After Snake takes a submarine to la, one of the first things he sees in LA is the most peaceful drive by shooting I've ever seen. It's like two leisurely cars. It's like, pop, pop, pop, pop.

[Darcy Carden]

Right?

[Paul Scheer]

Brr.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Brrr.

[Paul Scheer]

Great day for a drive by

[Jason Mantzoukas]

and that. And Peter Fonda.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, whoa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right? Peter Fonda.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Darcy Carden]

Someone just said oof. And that's so true.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

An audible oof.

[Darcy Carden]

And that is so true. It was so.

[Paul Scheer]

It's embarrassing. That is an embarrassing.

[Darcy Carden]

I had to, like, look up Peter Fonda because I was like, don't we respect him as an actor?

[Dan Levy]

That was a bad move.

[Paul Scheer]

Was. This is like. I feel like this is like part of Peter Fonda's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait. What did you find out weirdest? You do?

[Darcy Carden]

I think we do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. No, he was redeemed Yuli's goal.

[Paul Scheer]

Where. Where did. Where did you find Peter Fonda's fuck ability?

[Darcy Carden]

I don't. I'm. I'm normal horny.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You.

[Darcy Carden]

I don't want to just things.

[Paul Scheer]

But qu.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is not a no suggesting things.

[Dan Levy]

Movie star.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not attracted to nobody suggesting Kurt Russell was.

[Paul Scheer]

But not Cuevo Jones. He's got no now into Peter Fonda. Always not now.

[Darcy Carden]

Always not. Are you attracted to Peter Fonda?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

Not at all.

[Dan Levy]

No. I'm glad.

[Paul Scheer]

I think he's a great guy.

[Darcy Carden]

Does he listen to the.

[Dan Levy]

You know him?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he does.

[Darcy Carden]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Peter Fonda has actually been on the podcast via an interview. That someone. A friend of the show. Thank you. Peter Fonda, friend of the show.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So much audience participation. Guys, I'm gonna get you to shut it down.

[Darcy Carden]

Hot shot. Hot shot.

[Dan Levy]

Shut your pants. Friend of the show.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so Snake is in la. Well, there's so much stuff going on. Stacy Peach and Michelle Forbes, who I think is always Stacy Keach.

[Dan Levy]

Volima. Is that how you say her name?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

No, Tesla. What's her name?

[Paul Scheer]

Her name is Talisma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no, that's. Wait, no. Her name.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hold on.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, that's Valerie Galino. Is Talisima Hot Shots girl? Is Braz Brazen Hot Shots?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because she's in Hot Shots.

[Darcy Carden]

But wait, had we even talked about her yet? Or you're just like, get to the girl from Hot Shots.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Talk about the girl they fried on her stomach. I'm a nerd in a podcast, but I want to talk about the girl.

[Paul Scheer]

Hot Shots is a deep dive for Michelle Forbes. Like, she's also been.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, not Michelle Forbes. Isn't it Valerie.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Valerie Galina. Yes, you're right.

[Darcy Carden]

That's how it. It isn't a deep dive.

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[Paul Scheer]

She's. That's it. Probably.

[Darcy Carden]

No, no, I think she's actually done a ton.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Darcy Carden]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

Alright, so one of the things I love about movies like this is obviously they're making some big leaps in what technology would be 1996. Hard to predict what would be, you know, the future. But what I do love is when they just miss one thing. Like Stacy Keech has a very big microphone. Like, everything else is, like, very tiny and, like, little devices. But he's like. He's talking in a microphone the size of this. Like, hey, Snake. Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Be careful of the UV rays, the ozone. That's what they're so scared about.

[Darcy Carden]

They are.

[Dan Levy]

They are.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, we were talking about this, like, a little bit back know, so you. That was. I guess the fear in 1996 was the ozone especially.

[Darcy Carden]

I think in LA. It was always like, pollution, LA is like, so smoggy. Pollution.

[Paul Scheer]

You're gonna get in this zone where you're gonna get, I guess, cancer. Yeah. I mean, they don't really talk about the effects of UV rays.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. Nor do they talk about the effects of the acid rain that's apparently raining down. Peter Fun is like, you gotta put the hood up. Snakes. Like, I'm cool.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

He's got a luxurious head of hair.

[Dan Levy]

He doesn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not only that, but he falls into a sewer that must be full of acid rain.

[Darcy Carden]

Why does it rain?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, why is it he should be so dead, except he's such an undeniable hunk.

[Darcy Carden]

That's what I'm saying. He can't die. The man can't die.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe he's the hologram the entire time.

[Darcy Carden]

Well, see, that's then when. When he. When not to cut to the end, but here I go. When the explosion happens and he walks out, I'm like, dude's a vampire. Something, something. I was like, he can't die. This man can't die. And then he's a fucking hologram.

[Paul Scheer]

It's funny. He's a vampire. Because it was interesting. One side of this was that they thought this was gonna be a huge franchise for Snake Plissken. So it was gonna be Escape from New York, Escape from la, Escape from Mars.

[Darcy Carden]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

That was the third one. And then John Carpenter was like, well, I guess people don't like Snake Plissken anymore. So he has made Vampires from Mars. Like, he's made, like, a movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, there's a movie called Vampires?

[Paul Scheer]

Right or Wrong? It's like a ghost. Ghosts of Mars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ghosts of Mars.

[Paul Scheer]

Are there vampires?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Should we do that?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

Is it good do it here?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, is it good for us?

[Darcy Carden]

Not even for this.

[Paul Scheer]

Interesting.

[Dan Levy]

So you think he thinks just was Snake Plissken that was the problem? He's like, it's not. Not the world that I've created.

[Paul Scheer]

It's like.

[Darcy Carden]

But it is.

[Dan Levy]

They've just given up on that character.

[Darcy Carden]

I think it is. I actually. I do think I Mean no disrespect, I guess all disrespect to Kurt Russell, but, like, it ain't good. He ain't like, he's. He's great and we love him. But, like, that is. It's not good. It's just a voice, right? There's nothing more to his character.

[Dan Levy]

There's not a lot of levels to

[Darcy Carden]

stick with nothing more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And there's like, he's trying to do. I feel like this for him is his version of. He thinks he's doing his version of Clint Eastwood's man with no Name, Right. You know, like. Like, just like a few lines of dialogue, gruff voice, no emotional involvement.

[Darcy Carden]

Why? Doesn't work. It doesn't work, though, in this. It's like.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I feel like this one is, like. Because it becomes a little jokey too.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, well, once he gets in the submarine, that's sort of the problem. We've already talked about that. Once he gets to LA and it

[Paul Scheer]

starts off like, yeah, he does start off as a badass. I'm like, I like him there, but

[Jason Mantzoukas]

just like everybody else, once he gets to la, changes, changes. He totally loses his edge.

[Dan Levy]

He becomes an la.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Totally changes.

[Darcy Carden]

Kind of about that, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, it is.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie is a metaphor for a lot of things.

[Darcy Carden]

Making, like, a big comment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He almost gets a bunch of plastic surgery.

[Paul Scheer]

The plastic surgery.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Bruce Campbell, right.

[Darcy Carden]

I hated that. That scene made me feel ill.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't like scenes like that. I don't like that scene from Brazil where they take Mona from the boss's face and pull it like I make it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought of that, too. I thought that. I actually loved that scene. I loved the scene where it was like, all the plastic surgery people. And I was like, people really look like this now?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is like reality television. I'm looking at Real Housewives.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, that's true.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, that's the right assholes.

[Dan Levy]

I knew, though, as the scene was happening, I was like, he's gonna grab her boobs and say, those are real. I knew it was gonna happen. I knew it. And then he did it, and it was great.

[Paul Scheer]

I had a problem with his sense of direction.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Your pervert esp.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no. Grab her boobs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Worked out boobs.

[Paul Scheer]

Grab her boobs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ooh, I bet this broad's about to get felt up by a weirdo.

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, babe. I was right.

[Paul Scheer]

They are real.

[Dan Levy]

I just knew, like, at, like, a cheesy way. Not as like, oh, yeah, let's grab

[Paul Scheer]

some fucking weird tits. But he. I felt like his sense of direction in LA was also kind of off, too. He had to go to the Hollywood Bowl, Right. But then he walked by Capitol Records, and then he walked by Man's Chinese Theater, and he's like, where's the Hollywood Bowl? I was like, yeah, you passed it. You were closer.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, you were.

[Paul Scheer]

You were already.

[Dan Levy]

He was on Cahuenga Beach. At Cahuanga Beach. He landed at the Hollywood bowl, and then he headed to Hollywood Bowl.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Walked away. Come on, guys.

[Dan Levy]

He passed it. He passed it.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah. I mean, that's a tiny problem.

[Paul Scheer]

They should have given him a Thomas guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's occurring to me is that this movie is the orig. Like, they give him a disease or a virus, rather, and are like, you have 10 hours, blah, blah. This is the original Crank.

[Paul Scheer]

I guess you're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the same. Like, Crank is the same storyline. We're gonna do something to you, fuck you up, and as a result, you're gonna have to do what we want you to do.

[Dan Levy]

As someone who loves Crank, that's really fucked up.

[Paul Scheer]

But there seems to be no driving force, because in Crank, Stalem's like, fuck. And then this, he's like, meh. Well, that's the thing is he's got no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They've given him something that arguably makes him less likely to succeed.

[Darcy Carden]

That's the funniest. They're like, you're gonna, like, basically be really tired.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're just gonna get closer and closer to dying.

[Dan Levy]

He just has mono, basically. He doesn't care.

[Darcy Carden]

I know that he doesn't care.

[Dan Levy]

Like, that's the one thing.

[Darcy Carden]

Funny thing to give him.

[Dan Levy]

He's not. He's not that stressed about this horrible disease, though.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Just walking around trying to kill people where you think he would just.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And everybody's like, are you Snake Plissken?

[Darcy Carden]

Why is he so famous? Why is he so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everyone knows him. He's so famous. I just think Plissken literally.

[Darcy Carden]

What? Literally, like, what could he do in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Apparently whatever he did in Cleveland, everybody was like, oh, I thought they had a real Cleveland man.

[Paul Scheer]

It seems to really be, like, petty. Like, it's like. Because he's hanging out with a car thief. Hershey. Oh, I didn't even realize she.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, my God. I didn't either.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I didn't either.

[Paul Scheer]

I thought it was like a. Like a bad black pun. I did, too. Now I realize it's a terrible other pun.

[Darcy Carden]

Pam Grier was like. She kind of was dope in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I like Pam Greer in this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anytime Pam Grier on a hang glider with a machine gun. Home run movie A. Yeah, I mean five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Anybody hanging out?

[Darcy Carden]

Five.

[Paul Scheer]

That hang gliding scene again, it's a low impact thing. It's like, it's like gliding.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like there are. They are in such close proximity to people shooting machine guns at them.

[Darcy Carden]

No, not a single. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

None of them are shot.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah. No bodies, no hang glides hero.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

The only time made sense was in the beginning when he shot them. And they're like, those are blanks.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

That was even.

[Dan Levy]

That was retarded.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought you might try that.

[Paul Scheer]

You did? Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? Make sure he's got this. But make sure he's got one clip of blanks. Make sure that's the clip that's in the gun. Cause he's definitely gonna try and shoot us. But we've already fooled him with the hologram thing, so we can't do that again.

[Darcy Carden]

That went like this. They were holograms.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Darcy Carden]

And then in the next scene they burnt holograms. Blank. But they introduced him to all of the weapons.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

And then the next scene.

[Paul Scheer]

Cuz now I guess they maybe trick his head enough. He's like, well now he doesn't know are there blanks or not blanks?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They gave him his own guns. So what if he instead of being like had just been like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. They'd be deadsville. Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

End of movie credits credits.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, that would have been the best. John Carpenter is stealing $60 million million dollars. Like it's a four minute movie. Most of his narration at the top

[Jason Mantzoukas]

done by Steve Buscemi's in this movie.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

The boosh is loose.

[Darcy Carden]

The boosh is loose.

[Paul Scheer]

He comes in as a character that I can't describe. He's an agent. Yeah. Wait, what Agent.

[Darcy Carden]

He's really. I mean he's like the map to the stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he's the map to the stars. Then he reveals he's an agent. He's like, we can make a lot of money, Snake. But. But where?

[Dan Levy]

There's no more. There's no showbiz is underwater. He's a terrible agent.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, the shark is. Yeah, the shark is even out of work. I mean, shark is trying to eat submarines. But the. But like what is he representing in the deplorable world?

[Darcy Carden]

I think he was like, he was like sneaking in being an agent. I don't think he was really an agent. I think he was. I think he was like a scam artist. Right. He was just like he was trying to make a damn.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's the impression I got, that he was like. He was going with whoever he thought was gonna give him the most accident.

[Paul Scheer]

So just lying about his own profession.

[Darcy Carden]

At first I thought he was gonna be like Cabbie from the first movie, but he was not like Cabbie. I thought he was gonna be like a sweet, old, you know, dummy.

[Dan Levy]

I was hoping that he was gonna get excited and send Snake out for pilot season.

[Paul Scheer]

Here. Here's some sides. Read this. What do you think you can play? How old can you play?

[Dan Levy]

I can pull off 18.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Snake, you're up against Cuervo Jones for this. For this.

[Paul Scheer]

To remake of Bosom Buddies. You'll play Balky. Wait, Bosom Buddies?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Balky.

[Darcy Carden]

That's right.

[Dan Levy]

You're a terrible agent. You're a terrible agent.

[Paul Scheer]

This is. This is ridiculous. No, we'll do it more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everybody knows that Balky is from Perfect Strangers, not Puss and Buddies. Cuervo Jones and his balky bartokomus.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's the reason I got into acting. Everybody.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, no, he's.

[Paul Scheer]

You are from Meepos, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I can do this. I got this.

[Paul Scheer]

Your family is from Meepos, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, we are from Meepos.

[Paul Scheer]

And you came over.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We came over on the boat from Meepos.

[Paul Scheer]

With a sign that said USA or burst.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep. I was like, if Belka can make it in la, I can make it in la.

[Darcy Carden]

And look at you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look at me, don't look at me.

[Paul Scheer]

You're standing tall, Jason, on the way to your dreams.

[Dan Levy]

Now, that shit was on Tuesdays and Thursdays, by the way. Perfect Strangers was on twice a week, really. FYI, New shows. Imagine just pumping out Perfect Strangers like that.

[Darcy Carden]

That's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

Crazy.

[Dan Levy]

Tuesdays and Thursdays. I watched it all the time. Anyways, as a side note, I will

[Jason Mantzoukas]

say this network did develop a very Perfect Strangers type show that I did the table read for as the foreign cousin.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was like, this is where I'm at. This was a long time ago. But I was like, yeah, it makes sense that I'm playing the Balky part.

[Darcy Carden]

Right, right, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, my life is great.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, is. Is that character with us tonight?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Huh? Go to hell. You can watch him in the dictator

[Paul Scheer]

and the basketball sequence.

[Darcy Carden]

Talk about that.

[Paul Scheer]

This is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, we also. I also want to talk about when Valerie Galina hits on Snake. Plissken is like, I basic. She goes. She's basically like, I want to make you feel good. And then she goes, my boyfriend and I broke up tonight.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, Tonight, Tonight, Tonight, Tonight.

[Darcy Carden]

Right before we were kidnapped, I want you to come home.

[Dan Levy]

Like, it was like, she's a little bit. I don't to want to be like, you know, but she seems. It's a little bit slutty. A little bit, right? I mean, she just breaks up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Dan. I'm not going to slut shame her at all.

[Dan Levy]

I don't want to. I don't want.

[Paul Scheer]

Lovely girl. She found out.

[Dan Levy]

She's got that right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why do we need to know that she and her boyfriend broke up. It's so boyfriend. She could just be single.

[Dan Levy]

It also seems like a lie. It's like a very aggressive thing to tell someone. Like, you broke up tonight.

[Darcy Carden]

She was just being honest. I'm into it.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, Snake has to, you know, do a challenge. This is my love hate relationship with this movie. Cause I applaud the insanity of it totally. Like, it's like, okay. His challenge is to make 10 points on a full size basketball court. So he's gotta make a basket every 10 seconds.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Every 10 seconds.

[Paul Scheer]

Every 10 seconds, run to another basket. So he's gotta run up and down the court. So it's a little bit of like a cardio exercise.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Cuervo Jones at one point goes, he's getting tired now. I was like, no, not really.

[Dan Levy]

But he's shooting baskets. And the person before him, he chopped someone's head off in front of him. The blood splattered into his face and he's like, now you will play basketball.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. The basketball court is enclosed in fence.

[Darcy Carden]

I know exactly what you're saying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And there are gunmen all around it shooting the one person on the court, AKA shooting each other today.

[Paul Scheer]

Why did they. No. Everyone has terrible damage.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No collateral damage. The same thing happens at the end of the.

[Darcy Carden]

Yes, it does.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They encircle the hologram, which we don't know is a hologram, and they fucking blast it.

[Darcy Carden]

I totally saw that Everybody would be killing.

[Dan Levy]

Everybody's so stupid, really. When he was on the fence, when he was on the fence paying off and they were shot at him so much. That was the one time, like, he's dead now, right?

[Darcy Carden]

Right when they did this circle, like when all the guys were shooting him in the middle of the basketball court, I truly. The words in my head were like, how did this get made?

[Paul Scheer]

But there was. But here's my. Here's my thought too. Is like, do you can. It's not real. Right? We all can agree with that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This wasn't A documentary.

[Darcy Carden]

This is real. This is real, Paul.

[Dan Levy]

This was a real.

[Paul Scheer]

This was a documentary shot in the year 2013. Was not real. But no, like, so at a certain point, someone would have to be like, huh, maybe we should put him in a circle. Like, they're like, it wasn't like we had. Well, we had to put him in a circle. Like, there's no reason for any of it. And even, like, with a fart by the part where he's, like, climbing over the fence and Cuervo's getting his gun, like, we'll just make it more cumbersome. Like, make him not get the gun so quickly. But he gets the gun quickly. I'm just gonna hold it here, and I won't do anything.

[Dan Levy]

That awesome shot of the red circle around him just.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. For a long time.

[Dan Levy]

Very long time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. As a director, you could at least maybe cut that scene tighter. So feels like, oh, he just missed him. No, I'm gonna leave that red dot on him. He had the perfect shot for seconds.

[Dan Levy]

Oh, yeah. That's where you thought the director was gonna take control of the movie in that moment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And also, there is a stadium full of armed people. He also could just be like, shoot him.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

If you ever want to, don't do this, but go back and watch that scene, because they're all kind of, like, waving their guns in the air. A lot of them are like rubber, and they're just kind of, like, doing. They're going like.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they. I mean, look, they've been won over. They've been won over by an amazing basketball performance. And we know it's amazing because they put it in slow mo. This is. And by the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I love it.

[Paul Scheer]

And Kurt Russell made all these shots

[Darcy Carden]

himself, and he, like, he was one of the writers of this movie, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, he was.

[Darcy Carden]

He just wanted to show off his backstory.

[Paul Scheer]

First and only writer's credit. And apparently his real addition to it was the ending, which would be the only thing that would be slightly different

[Dan Levy]

basketball in this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. This is some of the best basketball. Okay.

[Darcy Carden]

Rayanne Grass standing up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why does he make eye contact with her?

[Dan Levy]

Because he's like, look what's gonna happen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're wasting time, bro. In these seconds, he could have moved.

[Darcy Carden]

I know.

[Paul Scheer]

And then he heaves it. He gives the ditto.

[Darcy Carden]

It seems like he really did make this move.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Dan Levy]

It would have been great if he missed.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you know how many people could do that? Like, nobody would ever die in that challenge because it would be easy.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Darcy Carden]

Well, according to Cuervo. Every fucking person died in that challenge.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, why is there such a big crowd if everyone's dying? You'd be like, well, I guess they're just gonna execute somebody after they make six points. Like, I mean, it's like. It doesn't seem like they're not playing a game against each other. Like, there's no. Like, that's the undefeated team. Like, you gotta play. You gotta play the big man. And all of a sudden, like, Shaquille o' Neal makes a acting appearance, you know? Great. He's, like, covered head to toe in some sort of steel. Not just costume Steel from the movie

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Steel, but he's just wearing Steel unrelated to his performance in the movie Steel.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, just to give him something a little fun to wear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, that seems confusing.

[Darcy Carden]

Sort of armor.

[Dan Levy]

Old school.

[Paul Scheer]

Knight's armor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like from Martin Lawrence.

[Paul Scheer]

Black Knight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What, to play basketball?

[Paul Scheer]

Who knows? It's the future.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It seems like it's a Steel Kiss.

[Darcy Carden]

Kiss. Kiss.

[Paul Scheer]

Kiss.

[Darcy Carden]

Kiss, Kiss.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe he's like, you know, got a big hammer like that character Steel. But it's not related to this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Again, seems like Steel.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know. And, you know, people call him a hero and whatever. It's no big deal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That is for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

Steel. Now, I'm no. I'm no weatherman, but that was a lame tsunami. You're not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hold on.

[Paul Scheer]

What? Well, not professionally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Amateur meteorologist, you bet.

[Paul Scheer]

But no, that tsunami that they prepare for didn't seem to be that. It actually kind of seemed nice.

[Darcy Carden]

The one that Peter Fonda was like, super snake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was able to surf the tsunami with a bullet in his leg. So it can't have been that bad.

[Paul Scheer]

And as small talk and high five

[Darcy Carden]

and jump on the back of Steve Buscemi's car.

[Paul Scheer]

He loves a jumping on a car. Oh, my God.

[Darcy Carden]

How does this scene happened? This scene is out of fucking control.

[Dan Levy]

And still no mention of his sickness that he's dying. So, yeah, you think he'd be like, oh, I really got to solve this.

[Darcy Carden]

Well, you know, he did cough a lot.

[Dan Levy]

That's true throughout.

[Darcy Carden]

Just like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But notice that they would. ADR coughs in a lot.

[Paul Scheer]

But here's the thing. Spoiler alert. It's not really a poison.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, is this for this movie? Okay, good.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait. No, no, you. You saw. But no, he was never sick. So Snake is like a psychosomatic kind of character.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, he gives him the flu.

[Paul Scheer]

They said, oh,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

it was the equivalent of the flu.

[Darcy Carden]

They were like, you idiot.

[Paul Scheer]

You have the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You fell for It. You idiot.

[Paul Scheer]

It's so funny. If he had to blow his nose throughout the entire movie, the most. The most unattractive thing, like, is right.

[Dan Levy]

I need some emergency. Can I get some emergency?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it would be amazing if he just got diarrhea.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

You're like, we just gave you diarrhea. You ain't going die.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We got to surf this out. He's like,

[Darcy Carden]

for those of you at

[Paul Scheer]

home, Jason's pretending someone. Agreement like, that is a smart idea. Yeah, we got to give him diarrhea.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

He's going to be shot, but he's

[Paul Scheer]

not going to know.

[Dan Levy]

Have explosive diarrhea.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, they came up on him so quickly when he. When he first landed there, like. And he gets captured like he's dead. Wait, wait. Just give him a second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's the. Here's the. And I love Snake Plissken. I love Escape from New York. He's a idiot in this movie. Every move he makes from the minute he maxes out the sub.

[Darcy Carden]

Why did he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why? Why max out the sub?

[Darcy Carden]

Why he do that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why crash the sub? Why do everything. Every step of the way, he's caught by everyone.

[Dan Levy]

Because everyone knows everyone.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everyone catches him.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, everyone knows him everywhere he goes. Snake Blitzki.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he's basically like, where's Cuervo Jones? Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. He's like, the least subtle.

[Darcy Carden]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Least effective.

[Darcy Carden]

And everyone's like, you're shorter than I thought you were.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which I liked. As a. As a runner.

[Paul Scheer]

Sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, you're a tiny hunk of a man.

[Darcy Carden]

Right, right, right, right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

But he. And. But I guess my question is too, like, he. I guess he's never at peace, Snake, you know, he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why did they put him on the treadmill?

[Darcy Carden]

It's la, baby.

[Dan Levy]

It's la.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe they thought there would be a basketball game coming up in his future. He handled that cardio great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Was it to warm him up? Like, honestly, why did they put him on the treadmill? Like that scene where you got to

[Paul Scheer]

fill him in trouble. Insurance paperwork. Hey, before we put you in this execution scenario, we gotta make sure you are physically stress.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We gotta do a stress test on your heart. When they cut to Cuervo Jones talking to the world like, I'm gonna do this thing, and I've got the button, and blah, blah, blah. And Snake Plissken background, like.

[Darcy Carden]

And that's how they realized, as Stacy

[Jason Mantzoukas]

KE is like, wait a minute. That's Snake Plissken. Why is he on a Treadmill.

[Darcy Carden]

I don't know.

[Dan Levy]

He's doing a turkey trot.

[Darcy Carden]

I don't know why they put him on that treadmill.

[Paul Scheer]

But the other thing about it is, I feel like this is what the problem with the whole movie is. It's written by someone who was doing some sort of drugs. And there's elements of it that's like, yeah, this is fucking gonna be great. And then this other part is like, put him on a fucking treadmill. Put him in a hang glider, right? He's gonna crash into the Matterhorn. Make that a moment. It's a fucking Matterhorn from Walt Disney World. It's like. It's not like the. That. It's not that. Like an imposing mountain. Pull up, pull up. We're going to hit this fiberglass mountain.

[Darcy Carden]

It's maybe out of Styrofoam. It doesn't work.

[Paul Scheer]

He. There was a. What was it here? This is.

[Darcy Carden]

Wait, you guys. Why did. Why did he. When Pam Greer was talking, why did he go like. I'd recognize that voice anywhere.

[Paul Scheer]

Because it was his old partner, the car thief.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, they had. They had been together in Cleveland. That's part of the lost Cleveland crawl, everyone.

[Paul Scheer]

It was like Fast Eddie or whatever.

[Darcy Carden]

Right, right, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Carjack.

[Paul Scheer]

Carjack.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Carjack.

[Darcy Carden]

It used to be called Carjack.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, was that character in Escape from New York. No. Right? No. Okay, okay.

[Dan Levy]

No. That's why you were joking about an Escape from Cleveland. But we almost need the Escape from Cleveland to make this movie make sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, I'm telling you, everyone's will finance the making of Escape from Cleveland. Kurt Rose Russell. Call me.

[Darcy Carden]

That's kind of.

[Paul Scheer]

Carjack Malone is also based on a dude that John Carpenter knew. I name all my characters after the people I hang out with who sell me cocaine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Allegedly.

[Paul Scheer]

You'll be in the movie. How much for this?

[Darcy Carden]

You guys? Can I ask the audience a question?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, please.

[Darcy Carden]

One time, a dude told me that I look like Pam Greer. Do you guys think I do? No, I. I thought it was pretty cool.

[Paul Scheer]

It's not a bad. It's not.

[Dan Levy]

It's not a bad thing, but it's definitely not true.

[Darcy Carden]

I kind of think I do. I kind of see it. Look at me from the side.

[Dan Levy]

I mean, do I look like Kurt Russell?

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, do I look like a shark? Ish. All right, this is the thing that made me most upset about this movie, and it was not anything that was on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, let me ask you a question. If I put on a beret, would I look like Cuervo Jones?

[Dan Levy]

Yes.

[Darcy Carden]

Ish.

[Dan Levy]

If this movie. If this movie gets remade.

[Darcy Carden]

Not. Not wrong.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, that is your Halloween costume.

[Darcy Carden]

And everybody will know.

[Paul Scheer]

Cuervo Joe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I'm Cuervo Jones.

[Darcy Carden]

You know it.

[Paul Scheer]

You know it's.

[Darcy Carden]

You know.

[Dan Levy]

You know, from Escape from la.

[Paul Scheer]

Escape from la.

[Darcy Carden]

You should.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cuervo Jones. No, I'm not Che Guevara. No, no, I understand how you might think. I'm Che Guevara.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cuervo Jones. Cuervo Jones.

[Dan Levy]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not.

[Dan Levy]

Not balky. But I am in the remake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not balky Bartokomas. I'm Cuervo Jones. Yes. I know it's racist, but

[Paul Scheer]

okay.

[Darcy Carden]

Your favorite thing, your worst thing.

[Paul Scheer]

My worst thing was this. This movie shot for 70 days straight. Only night shoots. Whoa. That made me, like, real.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's hard.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's why I think the treadmill's there. I think that's why it's like, no, put them on a treadmill.

[Darcy Carden]

We have a treadmill, and I just go home.

[Paul Scheer]

Home. Yeah. I. I don't know. Night from day.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's how to make someone insane.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

70, and he's not really off screen ever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no.

[Paul Scheer]

So that would be hellish.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, that's true. Now I feel bad for saying night

[Dan Levy]

shoots and doing this movie at night

[Paul Scheer]

that's also happening and, like, getting the script and being, okay, what do I say here?

[Darcy Carden]

You could kind of feel that you could kind of. I find you could kind of feel the actors a little bit, like, being

[Dan Levy]

embarrassed not to keep on going back. But when he got in that submarine and he kind of went like this

[Darcy Carden]

on his belly and turned it, that was.

[Paul Scheer]

That was.

[Dan Levy]

I was like, okay, he's not into this at all.

[Darcy Carden]

Actually. I just had a memory of watching the movie this very day just two days ago, and sitting next to my dog and, like, looking over at my dog and being embarrassed that I was watching the movie, being like.

[Paul Scheer]

I will say, like, at the dog at the dog playground there. It's like, oh, man, I got to watch. I watch both of them. What? Yeah. She only had to watch one for the podcast, but I had to watch both.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I like that. You think it's called a dog playground.

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, is that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're having fun, Doug.

[Paul Scheer]

We're just having a great time going up a day. I mean, technically, that's what's happening, you know? Well, let's go to the audience. Let's talk to the audience a little bit. Assholes. Let's see. They've already been so vocal, but let's see what you guys have to say. Oh, let me bring my bag of goodies for you all. So if you. I want you to give me your name. A name of a character that might exist here in Escape from la. Uh. Oh, there's someone dressed up like Snake Plitzken. Oh, yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, yay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, Darcy, don't fuck this guy.

[Paul Scheer]

Amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait a second. Is he a hologram? Paul McSh.

[Paul Scheer]

I put my finger. Jason, he's coming for you.

[Dan Levy]

Bring him up here. Darcy's gonna cheat on her husband.

[Darcy Carden]

I'm normal horny.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, sir, your name. Your character name from some.

[Darcy Carden]

This is very cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Dan Levy]

The jacket is legit.

[Paul Scheer]

My name is Blake. Blake. Love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Blake Plissken.

[Darcy Carden]

Blake Slitskin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, don't look at me like that, asshole. You left the house with an eye patch in your pocket.

[Dan Levy]

He's way too committed. I'm scared. He's gonna murder us all on stage.

[Paul Scheer]

Bangkok rules. All right. A name of a character that could exist in this world. Blake Plissken. Love it. And your question? Observation or explanation? Hope. Question for the curly haired guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I hate you already.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, my God. This is so bad. He's cruising for a damn bruise.

[Dan Levy]

You mean Cuervo Jones.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You thought I was funnier?

[Paul Scheer]

I thought you'd be funnier.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, it doesn't matter. You paid for the show. Your money's in my pocket, asshole.

[Darcy Carden]

That wasn't real.

[Paul Scheer]

Really? Come up from. And he. Oh, and then he's just.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I invited you on stage, Blake.

[Paul Scheer]

You.

[Dan Levy]

You can't wear that outfit and then make fun of it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Get back to your stage.

[Darcy Carden]

Wait, Blake, that wasn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Get back to you go back.

[Paul Scheer]

Blake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Blake. Plisken. Boo. Boo.

[Dan Levy]

Well done.

[Darcy Carden]

That's what he wants.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what he wants.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. Yes. Your question. Would Kurt Russell be. Be as famous, as amazing as he is, if it wasn't without that beautiful, beautiful hair?

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, the hair.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The hair is amazing.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, the hair is almost everything I'm trying.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna give you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree. I mean, I agree. It looks. And he looks great.

[Darcy Carden]

He looks amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like a incredibly handsome man. He's got a luxurious head of hair.

[Darcy Carden]

He's like a. Like a boyish like. Like kind of.

[Dan Levy]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm just noticing no women have raised their hand for this movie. That's a very.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, there's one over here.

[Paul Scheer]

There's one over here. What's your name?

[Darcy Carden]

Amy.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, great. Hi, Amy.

[Darcy Carden]

Hi.

[Paul Scheer]

A name of a character that could exist in Escape from la.

[Darcy Carden]

Donald Trump.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. Great. Love it. And again, sheepishly, I like it. And then. And then your question.

[Darcy Carden]

I'm just gonna agree with his comment. How does he. How does the snake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are you pointing at me?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

You.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay? Thank you, Amy. But you still don't know. Do you not know my name?

[Paul Scheer]

Not like a forum. We're not, like, voting on things.

[Darcy Carden]

She knows. She knows.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason.

[Darcy Carden]

I know your name, Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you, Amy.

[Darcy Carden]

Big fan of the league.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Huge fan of yours.

[Darcy Carden]

That's the reason I'm here tonight. Oh, my God.

[Dan Levy]

Love connection.

[Paul Scheer]

I was on the league two.

[Darcy Carden]

I know, but you're married.

[Dan Levy]

Someone's getting the socket locket.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who?

[Darcy Carden]

Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think that's technically a socket. Guys, I gotta go. I'll see you later.

[Paul Scheer]

Blake. How do you like him now, Blake?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[Darcy Carden]

Say he's.

[Dan Levy]

What?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry, Go ahead.

[Darcy Carden]

Comment.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yes. What's your comment, Amy?

[Darcy Carden]

How does a snake dodge bullets? It's just what you said earlier.

[Dan Levy]

But then he gets hit by the bolo.

[Darcy Carden]

It's called a bolo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, bolo, Right. I looked it up. I looked it up, too.

[Paul Scheer]

Cause I was like, oh, that's a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's Cuervo Jones weapon of choice.

[Paul Scheer]

The same weapon that a Thundercat used

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is two weights on either side of a string.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, yeah, that thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's also trapped very easily by a net. He's bad at his job.

[Paul Scheer]

But by the way you try to

[Darcy Carden]

get shot, that net part was kind of Jurassic Park y to me. Like, the part where the guy was like. You know, there was. He was, like, being flanked from all sides, girl or whatever. It's crazy to think that that's the same fucking year.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

I'm gonna kill myself.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Darcy maybe.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe Steven. Maybe. Steven Spielberg took every good computer editor, like, so that one year, every other movie sucked. All right, so, sir, your name, your character name, and your question. Here we go. My name is Ben, and my character name is Hunter Mongoose. Oh, I like that a lot.

[Dan Levy]

That's legit, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Get it written.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, yeah, just make it Hunter Mongoose

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is definitely an escape from Cleveland.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, Hunter, put it on the Kickstarter.

[Paul Scheer]

Mongoose. Hey, Part Android.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul, I'm gonna just put you on pause for one second.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ma', am, are you asleep?

[Darcy Carden]

You are, though.

[Paul Scheer]

Boyfriend. How could you be sleeping?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is she asleep? A little bit.

[Dan Levy]

We will send fucking blank to you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will scream at you. You are five feet away from me. You cannot fall asleep during the show. Do you understand what's happening?

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul, please continue.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep. Okay. Hunter. Hunter. Mongoose, your question. So every time Snake spends any lengths conversing with a woman, someone is either shot, he is shot, he is theoretically poisoned. And the same thing happens in Escape From New York. Has a conversation, and she gets consumed by the ground.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So given that they upped the level

[Paul Scheer]

of this, why do you think they thought it was more important to include more, you know, like, was it hammering in the point of just. If snakes talk to women, terrible things happen. Wow.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, they're definitely. I did sort of notice that. That, like, anytime he had any sort of even remote love connection, it was like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's that very terrible thing of, like, motivating a man by killing the woman that he might be interested in.

[Paul Scheer]

Right, right, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which is, like, a fairly reprehensible thing.

[Darcy Carden]

Sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But that is perfectly in line with this era of movie making.

[Paul Scheer]

1996.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Your name, Your name, your. Your character name and your question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My character name.

[Paul Scheer]

I got the mic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. My character name would be Blake Plissken, the Copperhead from Cleveland.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. You just took some.

[Dan Levy]

Wait, you just took Blake Pliskin. You just took the psychos.

[Darcy Carden]

I mean, there's Blake Plitzken, the Copperhead from Cleveland.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's keep moving forward. Let's not examine it too much. My question is based on your expertise. Which do you think Snake is best at? Hang gliding, surfing, or basketball?

[Paul Scheer]

Surfing.

[Dan Levy]

Surfing.

[Paul Scheer]

Surfing.

[Dan Levy]

He was shot in the leg, and he was just fucking cowabung.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was, like, hanging loose, bro.

[Darcy Carden]

He was absolutely hanging 10, my man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was shredding that gnar.

[Paul Scheer]

Anybody who can have a casual conversation with Peter Fonda while surfing in a tsunami with a shot leg.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Darcy Carden]

And remember when Steve Buscemi sees him when he, like, see when they, like, make eye contact? Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, the tsunami wave is at the same level as the highway, which is perfectly broken for tsunami wave to go by.

[Darcy Carden]

And they're like, he's looking for him. He's like, my bros. Surfing.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And there's like. Like surf music, like, dick Dale.

[Dan Levy]

Do you think when they were filming it, the director was like, okay, now, see, Buscemi went, look, look. Look to the camera as if you saw. You see them surfing the tsunami, and you're surprised to see them.

[Paul Scheer]

Bigger, bigger, bigger.

[Dan Levy]

Let's do it again.

[Darcy Carden]

Let me see those surface.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I cast you for those giant eyes. Let's see them.

[Darcy Carden]

Pop those eyes, Buscemi.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pop them.

[Dan Levy]

And remember, you're a weird, vague agent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A vagent, a vagint.

[Paul Scheer]

The end of the movie is Kurt Russell looking down the barrel of the camera.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep.

[Darcy Carden]

He finds that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He finds a pack of cigarettes which are outlawed.

[Dan Levy]

No, no, they were closed. I think it was a clothes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, they were American spirits.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Although they were brown.

[Dan Levy]

It looked like a clove, but I

[Darcy Carden]

think it was probably like a natural cigarette.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, it's 2000.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is that what American spirits used to be? Or something like weird brown, gross cigarettes. Maybe like a package of cigarettes.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, there goes our sponsorship. Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm just kidding. Smoke them if you got them. Delicious. Yum yum tobacco.

[Dan Levy]

Do you like Jerry Brown cigarettes?

[Darcy Carden]

He takes a drag, wanna look gross

[Jason Mantzoukas]

and European, but wanna look like you

[Dan Levy]

work at a head shop.

[Paul Scheer]

He looks down, the barrel of the camera is like. What does he say? Like, this is the future. America, wake up. Yes, welcome to the human race.

[Dan Levy]

Doesn't make sense. Doesn't track with the whole movie.

[Darcy Carden]

It is so weird.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, also. Sorry. Also, Cliff Robertson also says at the end, he says, this will be the final solution.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He, like, has a weird knot.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I'm telling you. There is just a lot of half ideas thrown there. But, like, welcome to the human race. This is what Kurt Russell added. I don't know if this is the only thing, but they're like, we can't crack this movie. It's been 10 years. We can't crack it. Kurt Russell's like, I got it.

[Darcy Carden]

I got it.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome to the human race.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And we'll work backwards from there. We know how it ends. So now we'll construct a movie that leads to that.

[Paul Scheer]

So now the whole country will be in darkness.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The whole world.

[Paul Scheer]

The whole world. Just at night.

[Darcy Carden]

Right? Yeah. I think.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What has he fixed?

[Darcy Carden]

I truly thought, when he pressed that button, like, I thought the world was going to explode.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, me too. That would have been a better moment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It just leads to the pilot of the TV show Revolution. Right? What was it called?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you.

[Paul Scheer]

You.

[Darcy Carden]

But that, that moment where he looks into the camera, I was like, this is just too much for me. That's when I looked at my dog and I was like, don't usually watch movies like this, Petty.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's when you were like, this is too much.

[Paul Scheer]

This is.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, last second. You're like, I can't do this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One second more.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm done.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, here, that Santa's been there.

[Dan Levy]

The whole credits better come soon.

[Darcy Carden]

What's Santa?

[Paul Scheer]

Apparently There was a TV series planned for Snake in the early 2000s, but it was turned down by every network for being too dark and too bleak.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, by the way, that would probably work now.

[Darcy Carden]

I was gonna say it might. It's not impossible, but I don't think.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, and then it was. The third movie, I'm sorry. Was Escape from Earth, and then it was Escape from Mars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, so it was going to be four movies.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. He's gonna be. This guy's always escaping, right?

[Dan Levy]

He's like, can I just get settled?

[Paul Scheer]

I want to see just like a snake settling. A Cheers version of Snakes. Snake.

[Dan Levy]

Like redoing a home in Encino. Just comfortable.

[Paul Scheer]

Snake. Snake just becomes like the Wilson from Home Improvement. It's like next door. Hey, Snake, what do you think?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Your son's becoming a man. He's going to challenge your authority.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, happy wife, happy life.

[Darcy Carden]

I did want to know, like, one thing about Snake. I wanted to know, like, what his damn life was like, other than that he was famous. Kicking ass and taking thought he was tall. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, obviously we have an opinion about this movie. There are people out there that have a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Cuervo Jones and me, we're gonna be breast bros. Utopia is the best name for this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cause it totally fucking rules.

[Paul Scheer]

Cuervo Jones, second opinion. Love it. And you snuck in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for Tim.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Too Tim.

[Darcy Carden]

Tim.

[Paul Scheer]

Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim.

[Dan Levy]

Tim.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Tim.

[Paul Scheer]

Tim.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Tim.

[Darcy Carden]

Tim.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kiss.

[Paul Scheer]

Kiss. Kiss.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kiss. Kiss.

[Paul Scheer]

Steve Lake.

[Dan Levy]

That's a good audience member.

[Paul Scheer]

These are five star reviews called from Amazon, and there are some great ones. There are so many good ones that I really had a hard time narrowing them down. And I was like, I'll do it before the show. But I didn't because they still were so good. All right, I'll start off with this one by Lorraine A. Wharton, written in 2013. What could be better than to watch and rewatch and watch again? Hunky Kurt Russell dressed in tight black leather. This is a completely unbelievable, outrageous flick that takes you outside yourself and totally immerses you in that world. Great twist at the end. Love this movie. And I have watched it over 30 times. What on earth? Five stars.

[Dan Levy]

By the way, I'm Kate Hudson.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, here's another one that I really liked. This one is by James Ortega. I'm rating this movie five stars because I want everyone to see me in it. That's right. I'm in this movie as the Chinese gang banger who unloads the magazine of my Uzi on Kurt Russell.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I remember that guy.

[Dan Levy]

This guy is super talented, great job.

[Darcy Carden]

And does he, like, run into a Dick Tracy car afterwards?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he goes, of course. I miss I'm the kid in the front spraying the nine millimeter all over. Then I jump in a black car and take off into some ditch.

[Darcy Carden]

I fucking remember this dude.

[Paul Scheer]

Watch the movie and look for me. Five stars.

[Darcy Carden]

That's great. That's how you make it in Hollywood.

[Dan Levy]

I'm gonna sign this guy. I want to be his manager.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love it if that review got him other work.

[Paul Scheer]

This one is just worth reading because it's the first time I've ever seen this in any review and this will be the last one to read. Escape from LA is a movie that will gain popularity as time goes on. This movie is a good B movie. Action and entertainment. Snake plays by his own rules. His loyalty is as only as dependable as the leash they keep him on. And the second he's released, the simplest act totally knocks the power elite off the throne. Bottom line, this one has a better sense of the absurd and more biting humor with just as much action. I prefer it to the first addendum written three months later. Since writing this review, I have watched part of the original and I can see why many fans prefer it.

[Darcy Carden]

Oh my God, that's so funny. That's so funny. Three months later three months later so

[Paul Scheer]

good went back and Renee done his five star review.

[Darcy Carden]

Three months later.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jk, my bad.

[Paul Scheer]

Actually, there you have it. Those are five star reviews. Cole from Amazon. But anything else to talk about before we kind of get into the wrapping it up? Anything that we missed?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sure there is a lot, but we did cover most of it.

[Paul Scheer]

45 minutes are spent not even talking about the movie.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, I did think the trailer that you saw before. Yeah, I thought the trailer that you played first before was pretty dope.

[Paul Scheer]

The trailer is pretty great. Yeah, the trailer is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I love that fake out.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, that's a great fake out.

[Paul Scheer]

The trailer for the movie adds like this very. It looks like you're at a movie theater. And then it slowly becomes the world that Snake blitzed in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a bummer. This is a bad movie. But I will say unabashedly, I love John Carpenter is a fantastic filmmaker. And even though this is a bad movie and he's made plenty of bad movies, there are like, there's stuff like that. There's stuff in here that I'm like, ooh, I still there. I like John Carpenter. I like what's at play a lot of times, even though it's terribly executed in this instance.

[Paul Scheer]

But I think, like, here's the thing that I feel about this movie, that's weird. Is it cost almost as much as Jurassic Park?

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

And I feel like. But ultimately, it's almost like a meta thing because he's, like, saying, fuck you, blockbusters. Like, he almost is like, I'll give you a blockbuster. I'll make the same fucking movie again. And it's not like it's a sort of. Like, it seems like, meh, fuck it. I feel like there's an energy of that to it. It doesn't seem like he's trying. Right.

[Dan Levy]

And I've, like, definitely not trying.

[Darcy Carden]

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I almost think if either of these were remade today, it could work. I think Escape from New York.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think I will play Cuervo Jones. You don't have to ask me to agree.

[Darcy Carden]

I think it could work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I own a beret.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's a cool idea. And I think that this one, especially, you know, as people talk about, oh, California should separate from the United States and all that sort of stuff is interesting. I think the power structure of it, the social world of it is really great. It just feels like it's all. It feels like the first 15 days of shooting, everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, how many more night shoots do we have?

[Dan Levy]

Where's Kurt?

[Paul Scheer]

He's still playing basketball. We gotta get him in here to shoot some more.

[Dan Levy]

When's that surfing scene?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm that surfing scene. Would you recommend people watching this movie for this. Purely for this purpose? And we know how you feel. If you're a dog owner. Don't watch in front of your dog.

[Darcy Carden]

Don't watch it in front of your dog. Would I recommend this to anyone for this purpose? To watch this?

[Paul Scheer]

Not just as like, you know, you wouldn't be like, yeah, you should see moonlight and you should see Escape from Hell. Like, it wouldn't be like that.

[Darcy Carden]

It would be like, yeah, no.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Darcy Carden]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, great.

[Darcy Carden]

I would maybe recommend the first one, but even then, not a lot. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Dan Levy]

I would definitely recommend this.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's worth a watch.

[Dan Levy]

Definitely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

100% yes.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I agree. Watch them both back to back, you know, and if you haven't come by the end of the first one, you're in the second one.

[Paul Scheer]

Or in Snake Plitzken's eye socket.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep. Ooh, that moist socket.

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh, socket. I agree. I think. I think it's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sock it to me, guys. It's late.

[Paul Scheer]

I enjoyed parts of it and, like, I really do have a love hate relationship with this movie because I think there's some things that are great, and I think there's some things that are just really, really bad. All right, so that's that. Let's talk. Dan, you have a brand new special on CISO called Lion.

[Dan Levy]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And now. And people can follow you on Twitter. They can follow you on Instagram, all that stuff. Yeah. Anlevy, Darcy, Paul, you are on a hugely successful, critically acclaimed new show right now. Talk to us about that. When is it on? What's all the details?

[Darcy Carden]

It's called Good Place. It comes back January 5th.

[Paul Scheer]

Where can people follow you?

[Darcy Carden]

You know, Twitter and Instagram, Arcycardon if you feel like you want to do well.

[Paul Scheer]

I think people would like to do that.

[Dan Levy]

Absolutely. I follow her. She's great.

[Paul Scheer]

I follow her, too.

[Darcy Carden]

I follow you guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I follow her, like, around the neighborhood.

[Darcy Carden]

Yeah, stop doing that.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Cuervo. Stop doing that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm like, ooh, look at this heiny.

[Paul Scheer]

You're throwing doves at her, and they're just not flying away. Jason, what would you like to plug

[Jason Mantzoukas]

here in January at the end of the show? I'd like to apologize to Blake Plissken for not being funnier tonight, even though I crushed hard. You can follow me. No way. Can you apologize to the fucking woman that I want to apologize to, Sleeping lady, Although she has not slept since.

[Darcy Carden]

So learn her lesson.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I think I did a pretty good job.

[Paul Scheer]

Very awake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You can't follow me, but you can follow us at. Howdidthisgetmade on Twitter.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I think we're on Tinder now.

[Paul Scheer]

We are on Tinder and Grindr.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think we're on Tinder and Grindr.

[Paul Scheer]

And the weird thing is we'll just show up and we'll, you know, we'll go in a bathroom stall with you and just talk about bad movies

[Dan Levy]

doing every time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's late and it's been out for a while, but I'm gonna still promote it. Watch the Gilmore Girls, guys.

[Paul Scheer]

Yay. Jason, you are in it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, I might be in an episode of the Gilmore Girls, so don't worry about if you believe in it, guys. Dreams can come true.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that character here tonight?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Robert? You mean Robert Castellanos, Esquire? He's not here. Yeah, those are my plugs.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, great. I can't think of any good plugs right now, but I will say thank you to everybody here at Largo for coming in. Amazing crowd. Sign up for our brand new mailing list. We're gonna. We'll announce our live shows with a little bit more notice and we'll be able to give you some info and scoop if you don't have Twitter or Facebook, which seems to be a common complaint now. So I guess eventually we'll get down to making a zine. So I thought it was easy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Soon this podcast will be released only

[Paul Scheer]

on cassette, and then that cassette will have to be retrieved by Snake Plissken. But Blake Plisken will be there trying

[Dan Levy]

to kill and trying to kill you.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you guys for staying so late.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, a big thank you to Avril Halley who put together all these amazing clips and things I didn't even show you, like the hand gliding machine gun or how the hand gliders in this movie look like the birds from Birdemic. A big thank you to Elianna Waldron. Nate Kiley does all of our research and found out all that information about Escape from New York. And everybody at your old friend. Thank you so much. Bye bye.

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