
Stallone Summer continues with 2023's Expend4bles (aka The Expendables 4), a movie that's essentially a senior citizen Fast & Furious. LIVE from San Francisco, Jessica St. Clair starts to lose her mind but nevertheless helps Paul & Jason cover Stallone & Statham's sexual chemistry, protocol for using brass knuckles, Sly's skull ring, the motorcycle chase on a boat, all the awful green screen, the Megan Fox & Jason Statham sex scene, the bonkers list of actors considered for Andy Garcia's role, and so much more. Don't forget to sign up for our Men's Studies intensive class! And we don't know what Salesforce does, but thank you Salesforce for being our unofficial sponsor.
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Paul Scheer
They're too old for this shit. I mean, actually I think they really are too old for this shit. Well, I mean technically they were too old for this shit, but now they actually have a lot of young people in it too. So I guess maybe some are too old, but then some are young. But then it's also like. Well, I mean some are not even action stars anymore. I don't know. We saw Expendables 4 so you know what that means. You're hitting cruise control. J Man Big Paul in the beautiful Jewel gonna take you from the groove all the way to the Ro Ran.
Jason Mantzoukas
The game's a street pot and hope.
Paul Scheer
To blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green sharp nails the spurred Demic how we staying alive they calling him a badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad gym Barney looking kind and nice. Calling June getting literal.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jason is getting lame.
Paul Scheer
June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They just a bunch of movies while they making the grave. Here's a real question for you. How did this get paid? Hello, people of Earth. Hel. People of San Francisco. Well, well, it's not often we get a chance to talk about the fourth entry in a series. And it's because most movies that are this bad don't make four entries. They're done in two. But this one came out September 21, 2020. 23. Tagline to Expendables 4. They'll die when they're dead. Now again I will say works for Stallone. Everybody else seems pretty young, I guess. Dolph Lundgren, maybe he'll die when he's dead. But it's getting younger and younger. One of the cool things about this franchise was they were old action stars. But now they're all young. IMDb calls this film or they describe this film as Armed with every weapon they can get their hands on, the Expendables are the world's last line of defense and the team that gets called when all other options are off the table. Budget $100 million opening weekend $8 million domestic gross $16 million. Woof. All right, Expendables 4 apparently is the end of the franchise, but we'll reveal in just a little bit all the ways it went due to get to this film because. Well, you know what? I'll save it. I'll save it. Because we have so much to unpack, let me introduce our co host for tonight. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's up, jerks?
Paul Scheer
Go.
Jason Mantzoukas
Come on, San Francisco. Here we go.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
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Paul Scheer
Jason. Expendables 4. Have you seen any Expendables?
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, here's what I realized when I started this movie. I've never seen an Expendable in my life. And I'll be honest, after watching four, I'm still not sure I've seen one because I don't know what this was. Here's the thing, this seemed like a longish episode of the A Team.
Paul Scheer
This is. Well, that's not far from what the Expendables do.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
The difference is, and I've seen the first two, dropped out for three, came back for four, is that you would have a lineup of Every star imaginable.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like the Love Boat, Bruce Willis, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wasn't that. It was a cavalcade of stars.
Paul Scheer
Chuck Norris. It's action stars. Some of them who can barely still walk. They just put a gun on them.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, who's that?
Paul Scheer
Chuck Norris.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, that's Chuck Norris.
Paul Scheer
Chuck Norris. When he came on, face didn't move. Looks like you guys needed some help. Never saw him again. That was it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, Walker.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. So they pull everybody out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Has Seal ever been in one of these? No.
Paul Scheer
No, he doesn't get along with these.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would like it if he was the villain in one of these.
Paul Scheer
Would be great, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Wouldn't that be good?
Paul Scheer
I mean, edit this out. Well, no, we don't have to edit this out.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, he's a notorious piece of shit, right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that's why I said we don't edit this out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let me be clear. I'm not saying that because I love Seagal.
Paul Scheer
I like his politics. But here's the thing.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, Paul, I will not agree with that. His politics are reprehensible. His blues guitar is transcendent.
Paul Scheer
Yes, I like Steven Seagal with his Cajun voice and accent dropping hits, my friend.
Jason Mantzoukas
And his Native American ancestry.
Paul Scheer
Oh, boy.
Jason Mantzoukas
And his Russian citizenship. I mean, a true villain. I heard he just got put in charge of Doge.
Paul Scheer
My friend was the AD who worked with Steven Seagal. And he said that they would choreograph these elaborate fight scenes. And then Seagal would come on set and he would listen and, you know, touch his goatee. Look and look and. All right. Yeah. So I'm gonna throw him on this table, and then I'm gonna walk over here. I'm gonna use that pool cue. I'm gonna hit him in the head. All right? And I'm gonna go over here and I'm gonna flip that guy over the pool table. Yeah. What if I was sitting and one guy came up to me on the left side, Another guy came up to me on the right side when I was sitting. I just do one of these and I knock him out. They go, well, Stephen, that. Yeah, you don't want to get up.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, I love it.
Paul Scheer
He just wanted to sit in his seat and punch people. Yeah, that's left arm's hitting the right guy.
Jason Mantzoukas
Do yourself a favor and watch the videos of him doing, like, martial arts demonstrations in which, like, fit men run at him and he's just like. And they throw themselves to the ground. The other best Steven Seagal story is him saying to someone in A meeting. I just read the greatest script ever written. And the person goes, whoa, that's incredible. Who wrote it? He goes, I did.
Paul Scheer
Gotta give it up. Gotta give it up.
Jason Mantzoukas
A true, true monster, a prolific villain.
Paul Scheer
And there's only one name that's synonymous with villain, and that is our other co host for tonight. Please welcome to the stage Jessica Sinc. Welcome, Jessica. We have Jessica on loan from the deep dive to join us for a tour that has been full of beefcake. But in this film, no one takes their shirts off.
Jessica St. Clair
Who cares? I loved it.
Paul Scheer
I love this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Whoa. You're. Wow. You've gotten Expendables pilled.
Jessica St. Clair
I. You had me at Stallone and Statham. They've got sexual chemistry.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, are they actually brothers?
Jessica St. Clair
No, no, they're more than brother. Well, they're friends.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are.
Jessica St. Clair
They are soul brothers.
Jason Mantzoukas
They're brothers. They're brothers in arms. I know that, but they. Twice they were referred to as brothers and I was like, what do they mean, brothers?
Jessica St. Clair
They're brothers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay. Very cool way to do that.
Jessica St. Clair
The brothers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Very cool. Very normal.
Jessica St. Clair
But if you took all of the fighting out of this movie, you've got Thelma and Louise, you've got Beaches, you've got Terms of Endearment, You've got my favorite movie, the Expendables.
Paul Scheer
I will say this. I do love Jason Statham in this movie. Like, I think, amazing, great.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm willing to say I love Jason Statham in everything.
Paul Scheer
Yes. He gets it. He understands like what he's in, what he's doing. He's funny, he's fit. He is in no way Stallone's contemporary at all.
Jason Mantzoukas
Not at all. Not at all.
Jessica St. Clair
Such a good actor. He's believe they are.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's making everybody else look better. Statham's making everybody else look better. And he's also selling his fight scenes better than anybody else.
Paul Scheer
Oh, because he is actually an action star. That was.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, except for Tony Jaa, who is like next level amazing and. And Aiko. That guy also incred. Those scenes are nuts. But Statham, I mean, just hang a whole movie on the guy, by the way.
Jessica St. Clair
Hang a lot on him. Hang on whatever we can get of his. That can be hard. Hang it. Hang a towel on it.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jessica St. Clair
Hang whatever you can.
Paul Scheer
Oh, okay.
Jessica St. Clair
Hang me on it.
Paul Scheer
Wow. I love Jason Statham, but I will say I found his relationship with Megan Fox to be very fulfilling.
Jason Mantzoukas
I like that.
Jessica St. Clair
I love it. When they were tossing around. Yeah, I like that tattoo. So did your brother. That's fun.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah. Well, okay.
Jessica St. Clair
Did he fuck his brother?
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, maybe. Who's his brother?
Jessica St. Clair
It's not Stallone. Let go of that fantasy of yours. Let it go.
Jason Mantzoukas
My questions are these because I think. My guess is a substantial amount of plot mechanics in this movie, and maybe I'm just way off base, are predicated on having seen the first three movies.
Paul Scheer
I think. Again, I think a few because there's a lot of new. This is a very new team, I believe. Any expendable experts out there that Megan Fox came in in three? Really? No, she came in in four.
Jason Mantzoukas
She's new.
Jessica St. Clair
What?
Jason Mantzoukas
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We need. We. We need a Morgan for expendables. Is there one person who has an encyclopedic knowledge of expendables? Someone is very cockily raising this, by the way. Can we get house lights please?
Paul Scheer
All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm super curious about this too because we start in their relationship so heavily. Oh boy, this guy's coming. This. Hey, this guy's approaching.
Paul Scheer
First of all, I looked at this guy. I've been up in the balconies, I've been in the high balconies, I've been in the low. But I look at this guy and I go, I trust him.
Jessica St. Clair
That's a stand up guy.
Paul Scheer
And he's got a guy.
Jason Mantzoukas
He looks like he works at Salesforce.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, he does.
Jason Mantzoukas
He does.
Paul Scheer
He does.
Jason Mantzoukas
Salesforce.
Paul Scheer
Salesforce. So what is it?
Jason Mantzoukas
What is Salesforce?
Paul Scheer
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Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Paul Scheer
This is.
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Jessica St. Clair
Right.
Paul Scheer
What's your name? Chris. Chris, okay. So Chris is going to be our resident expendables expert. Unless you let us down. So this is it. So get us up to date on. Just walk us forward. Are they brothers? No. Okay, great. Is Megan Fox their first appearance?
Jessica St. Clair
First appearance.
Paul Scheer
Okay, great. We know that Stallone and Statham, they've done a lot of missions together.
Jessica St. Clair
We know Dolphin, Sloan and Statham from.
Paul Scheer
And Dolph Lundgren too.
Jason Mantzoukas
And Dolph. So they are the.
Paul Scheer
And. And Toll Road. Which is Couture. Which one? Yeah, yeah, that's the guy with the ear.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, okay.
Paul Scheer
Randy Kocher.
Jason Mantzoukas
Randy Couture. Okay.
Paul Scheer
Anything else that we need to know?
Jason Mantzoukas
No, they're group of mercenaries.
Paul Scheer
They do a bunch of odd jobs. They've done odd jobs for the CIA in the first one. Then the CIA got Mad at them because they saved people. And then in the third one, you didn't miss much. On the third one, Andy Garcia also did.
Jason Mantzoukas
It seems to me that I'm correct. They kind of operate like old. Like senior citizen Fast and Furious. Right. Except with. Obviously with military training. Not. They're not street racers, but they operate outside of the government. But the government sometimes contracts them to do stuff.
Paul Scheer
Right. So in the first three, it was like, we're not a part of this. We're just going to give you money in the background.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're going to go do your thing.
Paul Scheer
This was the only one where like the government was much more intimately involved with it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Was there ever mention in the previous movies of the Ocelot character?
Paul Scheer
Never.
Jason Mantzoukas
No.
Paul Scheer
That's. That is. Whoa.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's what I felt like. This must be the culmination of four movies. And I was like, oh, and it's revealed. It's Andy Garcia. Oh, shit.
Paul Scheer
I am just blown away that Megan Fox appears because she appears as if, oh, the team's back together. Like in some way.
Jason Mantzoukas
She's team leader. Yes, she's team leader. And there's. Have there ever been multiple women on the team? Or is this the first instance of Woke Expendables? Not my Expendables.
Paul Scheer
So the weirdest thing is there is.
Jason Mantzoukas
A increase in feminism through the course of the series. You're doing real high pitched voice, but that's okay. I'm getting my vibe in.
Paul Scheer
So in the first movie, the only woman that exists is Charisma Carpenter and she is a girlfriend of Statham. Right.
Jason Mantzoukas
In the second movie, they allow Cordelia from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Paul Scheer
Love Cordelia.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, a true legend.
Paul Scheer
Does some of her best work on Angel. I would say.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yes.
Paul Scheer
Love.
Jason Mantzoukas
Love her on Angel.
Paul Scheer
Love Angel. Worked out at the same gym as her. Had to restrain myself from striking up casual conversation to then eventually be like, so Buffy. I know, I did want it. Well, not to say I wasn't call.
Jason Mantzoukas
Her, but I wanted to know, can I. Can I work in here? And so like, what's going on with the Hellmouth? What do you think?
Paul Scheer
So here's the thing. You and Spike had a really interesting relationship. I honestly found it to be actually more compelling than. All right, well, anyway. All right, so when.
Jason Mantzoukas
When Anya came into the picture, did you feel like.
Paul Scheer
Anything else we need to know? Nah, you all got it. All right, give it up.
Jessica St. Clair
We got it. I mean, I feel like the thing that I like the most about Expendables is that you don't have to pay attention. No, like I was, you know, I had my earbuds in. I was putting on, you know, false eyelashes while things were. Plot points were going by me. It doesn't matter. Well, they also, it's gonna be okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
Cause they also do that thing that all bad movies for, for old people do, which is that they recap the movie every seven minutes.
Jessica St. Clair
And I so appreciate that.
Jason Mantzoukas
So you don't have to. It's like an episode of Law and Order or anything else. You don't, don't worry.
Jessica St. Clair
It's like white noise of people getting flit. But that's your white noise while you're like flipping through a Better Homes and Gardens.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, I think that this movie is what Trump thinks our military is.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes. I think if you documentary, if you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Watch a documentary, you go into the signal chat. It's just Pete Hegseth sending memes from this movie to people. And that's what they think is getting done. They think a bunch of old fucks are running in in random old planes, in berets, in berets, beret and Ed Hardy rings. Just. I don't fucking. I don't even know what. But this is a Trump wet dream.
Paul Scheer
Oh, this. I also, I go one step further. This is like an older man's dream of like what society is. He's like, I get, I get YouTube. This is YouTube. This is a streamer. I get it. They walk around talking about how they're gonna fuck all these chicks. It's like, I don't think that's Twitch, but okay. You know, they'd be so upset if they realize what streaming actually is.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Did Sylvester Stallone I didn't look right this movie?
Paul Scheer
No.
Jason Mantzoukas
In any way, shape or form the original?
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because there's a bunch of jokes in here that are very Sylvester Stallone. Cody.
Jessica St. Clair
Like what?
Jason Mantzoukas
The golden showers stuff. Not only that, I feel felt like I felt like very vividly that Stallone had written that. Only because I was like, I feel like he just heard what a golden shower is. And then not only does it get brought up in dialogue, it's called back later as a plot point to be.
Jessica St. Clair
Like, told you he's into golden showers.
Paul Scheer
And they make the young guy talk about it because the young guy knows about golden showers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Here, let's play clip four and watch that very animated performance. Hey, you know what is a golden shark? She squats down on top of you and releases her bladder. It's very liberating.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow, a world class pervert. You know what?
Paul Scheer
He's a gold shark. You look like the type who has had one before. I'm cutting these losers. I had too much ass too.
Jason Mantzoukas
Time. Time for music.
Paul Scheer
So that is those guys. I bet you they were like improvised about golden showers.
Jessica St. Clair
And then he had to humiliate himself like that. It's like everybody knows what it is. My age, I'm gonna have to force myself to do this scene Nobody's giving.
Jason Mantzoukas
Him anything because they don't want to.
Jessica St. Clair
Be a part of it. They don't want to do this scene. They're trying to disappear into the scenery, trying not to be there with him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, and he is just hung out to dry.
Jessica St. Clair
He's selling it. God bless him. He has kind of a Puss in Boots type of Antonio Banderas.
Jason Mantzoukas
He has a Puss in Boots.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, he does have a. He has a Puss in Boots vibe. He does. And by the way, I would have loved to have seen Puss in Boots as part of the Expendables team.
Jessica St. Clair
Thank you.
Paul Scheer
With his sword, I would.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would love it if animated characters made their way into the expensive Expendables. Yeah, like, if it's. But it. Puss in Boots is almost too young and cute.
Paul Scheer
It would have to meet this guy, my friend Roger. Roger Rabbit.
Jason Mantzoukas
We got a. We got a new big guy, and it's just like, Foghorn Leghorn. I say, I say, I say.
Jessica St. Clair
You've been sitting on that impression the entire tour.
Jason Mantzoukas
I all tour. The whole time, I've been like, when do I get to break out my. Foghorn Leghorn, new member of the team.
Paul Scheer
Now, don't freak out, guys. I know you used to be a bad guy. Skeletor.
Jason Mantzoukas
God damn it.
Paul Scheer
Who tried to kill you before? Hey, buddy. I was drinking back then. All right, Skeletor, you're part of the team.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'd like to hear what Dolph Lundgren has to say about Skeleton. Right? Wasn't he he man?
Paul Scheer
Yes. Dolph Lundgren continues to be the shining light in this franchise as well. He ages perfectly. His character has an arc. He goes from not drinking and being shitty to drinking again and being great.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, a movie that makes you cheer for someone to break their sobriety so that they can commit wanton acts of murder.
Paul Scheer
His eyesight gets better when drinking.
Jessica St. Clair
You know, I feel like. You know how colleges in the beginning of feminism had, like, women's studies classes where we would look at, you know, different texts and everything. I feel like maybe there should be a man studies where this would be a text.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love this.
Jessica St. Clair
That we would start biting down.
Jason Mantzoukas
I agree with St. Clair. Men are important and need to be studied.
Jessica St. Clair
They need to be studied.
Paul Scheer
Men studies need to happen.
Jessica St. Clair
Mandatory to understand why.
Jason Mantzoukas
I agree with Jessica. Men.
Jessica St. Clair
Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
But here.
Paul Scheer
But you know what? I think you're right about the idea of, like, a certain brain is going to. Because, like, when they go, how's it hanging? Gravity hit.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
Or like.
Paul Scheer
Or like, gravity has always been at play with balls.
Jason Mantzoukas
Here's an entire semester is on Stallone's ring. Like, why do men like skull rings? What's up with.
Paul Scheer
Like, why is his finger that thick? Because we see it. Well, I mean, look, it's on the double dildo. Photo 1.
Jessica St. Clair
It's on a dick.
Jason Mantzoukas
You can't have thin fingers.
Jessica St. Clair
That's a thick you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, that's. That's why. The reason is because at the very least, your fingers need to be dick sized now.
Jessica St. Clair
Now who.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because that's a man.
Jessica St. Clair
But who was the genius who did just the tip? Right here. Yeah, that guy's an unsung hero.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, the whole apartment.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I love that they're like, we gotta spin that bottle around because we can't show that label.
Jessica St. Clair
We can't show that label.
Paul Scheer
The double sided dildo is next to a tip jar that says just the tip. But then we see it again. This is in picture three. This is again. All right, so there it is.
Jason Mantzoukas
So this is a bar where they have a desiccated. A desiccated human hand.
Jessica St. Clair
Is that a mummy? Like an Egyptian?
Jason Mantzoukas
That is. That is meant to be. I mean, we now know because of the end of the movie whose hand it is. We thought for most of the movie it was Stallone's hand, but in fact.
Jessica St. Clair
That's not the hand, though.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's the hand.
Paul Scheer
He found it. Yeah. Picture two.
Jessica St. Clair
Because when we saw it, it was all gelatinous.
Paul Scheer
No, here it is. Well, he dried out on the. The trip home.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, they dried it out.
Paul Scheer
Picture two, Beth.
Jessica St. Clair
No, that was like a puddle.
Jason Mantzoukas
There it is. It's that hand. It's that hand.
Jessica St. Clair
They hacked it off, dried it like jerky.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
And fashioned it like this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
And then put a ring on it.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't think that I know that.
Paul Scheer
That's what brothers do. Brothers will cut off your hand and bring it home to the bar.
Jason Mantzoukas
To the bar.
Jessica St. Clair
Somebody strip off, like, the excess.
Paul Scheer
No, it dried off. It's dry.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, it burned off. It burned off when he was a gelatinous girl goo monster there.
Paul Scheer
He's got.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love it.
Paul Scheer
I love it.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's got the. I love. What's the guy's name? Who it is?
Paul Scheer
Jumbo Shrimp.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jumbo Shrimp. I love when he picks Jumbo Shrimp out of the extra room, throws him in the thing and stolen. Jumps out. And then Jumbo Shrimp wakes up. I was like, I thought for sure he was dead.
Paul Scheer
And what was Jumbo Shrimp's crime?
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, for being small.
Paul Scheer
I mean, Jumbo Shrimp One justice for Jumbo Shrimp.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, justice for Jumbo Shrimp.
Jessica St. Clair
I want to do a whole semester shrimp. I mean, how men treat small.
Paul Scheer
We know. All we know about Jumbo Shrimp is that Stallone had a thumb war with Jumbo Shrimp, which Jumbo Shrimp won legitimately. And then he was gonna go back there to beat the out of him to get it back. And then they beat the shit out of him and then he kills him. Jumbo Shrimp. Not a mercenary, just a guy that likes to drink at the tainted spot.
Jason Mantzoukas
And it's not. It's not bad enough that Statham Brass knuckles. Jumbo Shrimp's whole crew, like, just demolishing every jaw in the house.
Jessica St. Clair
I had a question about brass knuckles, if I may.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
Is it cool to use them without telling the person? Like, I felt like there must be. It's like, it seems like kind of a dick.
Paul Scheer
You gotta tell people you have to declare brass knuckles before you have.
Jason Mantzoukas
You think. You think in a bar fight you need to give a heads up as to what you might have.
Jessica St. Clair
Well, like, is that.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, that's gentlemanly?
Jessica St. Clair
I mean, is it fair?
Paul Scheer
I used to fight with rolls of quarters in my hand.
Jessica St. Clair
Is that true, Paul? That is true.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, because here comes another chapter of sadness because you.
Paul Scheer
You.
Jason Mantzoukas
What the.
Jessica St. Clair
Paul, you had rolls of quarters.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. You get like a. You get a ten dollar roll of quarters and you put it in your palms, then punch somebody in the face.
Jessica St. Clair
Paul, that's so up.
Jason Mantzoukas
And pennies are cheaper.
Paul Scheer
Someone said thank you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Also, not only that, you can do your laundry.
Paul Scheer
Exactly.
Jessica St. Clair
Boom. But no, I didn't. I wondered because I thought to myself, huh, is it cooler to see Jason Statham actually kick the shit out of them with sans brass knuckles?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Well, I. The question.
Jessica St. Clair
It's moments like this for the street fighters out there.
Jason Mantzoukas
I know there are some street fighters in San Francisco. I don't think so.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, we've got a lot of librarians and a lot of street fighters in the audience.
Jason Mantzoukas
We got a lot of Salesforce executives here.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't know that they're fighting in the streets.
Paul Scheer
Well, the way that they fight is with Enterprising solutions. No, I've seen a lot of faces out here. A lot of you have been at the Excel Championship. It's pretty cool. Here's the thing I want to say about Statham. He seemingly gets younger with every movie. Like, he looks better in four than he looked in one. But you're right. Like, he does feel fight unfairly. Jumbo Shrimp is killed. But here's the thing that when we landed on the way to the mini golf place today, I did Google and did research to back it up on the plane that they are flying. That propeller cargo plane.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
From New Orleans to Libya. That is a 30 plus hour flight with multiple stops for gas.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sure.
Paul Scheer
At least seven stops for gas.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yep.
Paul Scheer
So that means that Jumbo Shrimp was in the. For 30 hours and no one else in that crew took a piss.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And on top of that he's. They all geared up. They all geared up and then they stayed in that gear for 30 hours.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are going to put on my.
Paul Scheer
Flat jacket, wear some PJs, some soft shoes, like get comfy in there.
Jessica St. Clair
Skims, baby. Cuz that's a long flight.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. So he was in the bathroom the entire time?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, I mean like none of it makes.
Jessica St. Clair
But again, I didn't think about Jumbo Shrimp once we're done with him. I'm on to something else.
Paul Scheer
Not a character in the movie.
Jessica St. Clair
Not worried about him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Honestly though, Jumbo Shrimp, somehow inexpensive, inexplicably for someone who is in two brief scenes has more of a footprint in this movie than 50 Cent. Which is devastating because 50 Cent is so good and so. And so fantastic, I think. So fantastic that I was like, oh, nice, 50 Cent is here. And then he got. Does nothing.
Paul Scheer
The Coolest thing about 50 Cent is a scene that he's not in. But you think it would be funny if he is in it, which is when they just put his song on a truck on this boat to attack.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would have loved it if. Because that's. I mean, come on. That it's so nuts to play his song in diegetically in the movie.
Jessica St. Clair
That's crazy.
Jason Mantzoukas
So that he can hear it. I would have loved it if he was in that scene and somebody had been like, hey, this is your song.
Paul Scheer
I want it to be like, this is 50 cents. Do you remember that video?
Jessica St. Clair
Or if he's behind the thing spinning his beats or whatever.
Paul Scheer
Look, sure, anything's possible.
Jason Mantzoukas
50 doesn't spin his own.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jess, you sound like an idiot in San Francisco.
Paul Scheer
I agreed with her. But do you remember that video game? I love this video game. I think it was called like Def Jam. It was like Def Jam meets Mortal Kombat. So it was like all the Def Jam characters would fight like that. You could have just said, oh yeah. We took that version of 50 Cent and we put him in the Expendables. Like we don't need reasoning. Oh, he's a seal. Who gives a. You could put Seal in the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I would have loved it. I would have loved it if Seal had been in this movie. Or for you guys, E40.
Paul Scheer
Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Just ghost riding the whip.
Paul Scheer
I will say the biggest villain in this movie is green screen. Because this entire movie is shot in warehouses, parking lots and windowless rooms.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
Yep.
Paul Scheer
I mean, a boat.
Jason Mantzoukas
All outdoor scenes are green screen, all driving.
Jessica St. Clair
Well, the worst green screen moment, and this is going way to the end. And I also think would be great for the men's studies class I'm gonna teach, is when Megan Fox, you know, says something like, what? And he just goes, nevermind. And nevermind equals I love you.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
And that. That kind of reading in between the lines, I love that is the subtle kind of dialogue that we're meant to unpack.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
And instead of doing that, I'm thinking, is this the. This is the shittiest green screen I've ever seen.
Paul Scheer
I mean, it is.
Jessica St. Clair
It's like if I went to, like, the Harry Potter exhibit and I'm like, I'm flying.
Jason Mantzoukas
There is like.
Jessica St. Clair
And I buy it.
Jason Mantzoukas
There is a bunch of. There's a bunch of flying stuff that looks like a flight simulator from 1994.
Jessica St. Clair
Like, they're.
Paul Scheer
They're.
Jessica St. Clair
The moment the NASA shuttle in Houston, you're like, we're landing it. Like that says, and that's a hundred million dollars. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Paul Scheer
Here's the moment that I was most offended by with the green screen is they cut to Dolph Lundgren, six sniping. Clearly, he's not in a field. They just put some plants in front of him. He's on a green screen. Like, this is the easiest shot to get. It's a tight on his face.
Jessica St. Clair
Put him inside the studio in a bunch of grass. No, buy it.
Paul Scheer
Fucking put him on a green screen. This is. Fuck you, movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, this is nothing. Everything feels so cheap. All the visual effects are cheap. All the sets look like something that HGTV just made. You know what I mean?
Paul Scheer
And it's like.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's everything somehow seems to. The only unlimited budget on this movie was, I think, for neon. Because every set has so much neon going on.
Paul Scheer
I mean, this movie takes place in two locations. A parking lot in the beginning where the bad guy lives. It looks like, oh, we found this set in Bulgaria. Because if you look off to the side of the screen, it's like a main street. And I was like, shit, did they just shoot this on the back lot? And they go, that's the villains, Laird. And then the other one is. It's the boat. And then the other time, it's in the airplane hangar. Like, there really aren't in many locations.
Jason Mantzoukas
They do in this movie the same number of missions. Like, each component of the mission to find out the thing that would normally take place in act one of another movie. Yeah, this movie. That's the whole movie. So by the end of it, I was like, whoa, shouldn't the movie start now?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Well, by the way, speaking about the movie starting, one of the things that. And this is a Stallone thing, and I know it, and I have some facts to give you in a second, but the movie opens with this scene where this bad guy's lair is getting compromised. Right. Whatever. Fuck that. Then that ends. And then all of a sudden, we cut to Stallone putting on his fucking ring, getting on his hog and leaving.
Jessica St. Clair
Close up of those jeans. He's cuffing them just like you're cuffing. Just like Stallone, baby.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's my. He's my. My style hero who go cuff those pants.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, he cuffs those pants. I'm telling you.
Jason Mantzoukas
All of Stallone's jokes, too, are like, oh, it looks like he's got a dead cat on his head. It's fun. That's funny, right? That's funny, right? He's got a dead. Dead cat on his head.
Paul Scheer
Hey, take a Xanax. Take a Xanax and then pretend you're okay. Analyze this. The.
Jason Mantzoukas
But he.
Paul Scheer
But then he drives off and you're like, huh? Where the opening scene should have been. State. They should have been hard. Cut to Statham in that fight. Knock, knock, knock. Right? Because it's like. But we have to establish Stallone.
Jason Mantzoukas
Imagine if the cold open had been the mission where Stallone dies. Yeah. That's how the movie should start. That's the inciting incident. We don't need all this gibberish. And that's where I was like. That's where I felt like the beginning of the movie was. Servicing somehow what had happened at the end of the last. So that it's. Oh, it makes sense. He's trying to collect everybody and get them back together. Nope. Who cares? Apparently, I'm being told none of this is related to the past movies. So I feel burned by this.
Paul Scheer
But then we get this scene, this scene that is like. It's like Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. You know, there's two power, and I'm just not unspooled. Clip one here. This is clip one. This is the Fox and Megan Fox.
Jessica St. Clair
This is tough as a woman to watch. These are some tough themes coming out.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jessica St. Clair
Of how men see women.
Jason Mantzoukas
I know that. I know that. I think it has something to do with comms, but doesn't it look like Stallone is some sort of Frankenstein with two bolts in it?
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, it does. It does.
Paul Scheer
I'm alive. Can we play clip one? Beth? Whatever is, by the way, worst shot. Terrible shot.
Jason Mantzoukas
Terrible.
Paul Scheer
They don't even shoot on a spot because when they open up the door.
Jessica St. Clair
That'S like, hey, can you pause for a second? Ernest goes to camp.
Paul Scheer
Now.
Jason Mantzoukas
Think about it. Think of how long he's been alive. He knows you can't see in.
Paul Scheer
You can't job.
Jason Mantzoukas
You can't. You can't do that. Why would you look in like that? If anything, go to the side and look in a window. Look in the peephole.
Jessica St. Clair
First of all, I would say that you can't see in.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I would say that most people know you can't see in. But he should definitely know because his job is recon and surveillance. They are his.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are dog. And let me be clear, the Expendables are bad.
Jessica St. Clair
I know. They're so cute, but they are so cute.
Jason Mantzoukas
Except for Statham, every single one of them gets captured immediately on every mission.
Jessica St. Clair
That's true.
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Jessica St. Clair
That we spend so much of the movie with the Expendables locked in a room going.
Paul Scheer
Expendables are trapped in a room and someone's like, piss on it. And they're all right, that's a plot point. Yeah, piss on something to make it open.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, wait a second. And now I'm turning on this movie. Wait a second. Then Megan Fox is like, I knew along that you were going to track me with your knife. That was my big. Your big plan was to get caught, compromise the entire mission, and wait for one man to come and save you?
Jason Mantzoukas
What's so embarrassing about that is if the bad guys in the movie, Andy Garcia, Ocelot, and the rest of the Salesforce team knew what they were doing, they would just kill the Expendables the minute they get there. Oh, here are the Expendables. We trapped them. Done.
Paul Scheer
Why?
Jason Mantzoukas
Why?
Paul Scheer
I mean, by the way, I do love the second brief. The first briefing. Andy Garcia comes in, all right, guys, here's the mission. Peace. And I was like, wow, if that's a cameo, I'm down.
Jessica St. Clair
And it also seemed as if he was reading off of QQ cars. He was phoning that in.
Paul Scheer
He was like, how do I say this? Russian town K. Got it. One take. I'm out. Sorry, guys.
Jessica St. Clair
Out. Garcia out.
Jason Mantzoukas
By the way, I mean, thank God he's here.
Paul Scheer
Oh, I love God he's here.
Jason Mantzoukas
Adding some sort of gravitas to this.
Paul Scheer
But then the second time we see Andy Garcia before he puts on his beret is this moment where he's like, all right, now here's the other mission. Now I'm going to give it to team leader. Megan Fox goes, well, now I'm going to tell you what's up. And then they throw it to this woman who we've never met, and she looks like she came out of Salesforce. And you're like, who is she? And why is she in the secret lair? And why does she even need to be there? Why did three people need to say, go here, get this guy. Steal the nuke? That was it.
Jessica St. Clair
Now, is she. Was that woman who looked like my Spanish teacher in seventh grade? Was she in all the other movies? No, the gray haired lady, Whoever that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, the gray haired lady. Okay. That looked to me like a Kate McKinnon character.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I was like, what is this person up to do? And again, I. In my notes, I'm like, this person must be baked in. Since the first movie.
Jessica St. Clair
Like when you go to Judi Dench in the. In the Bond movies or whatever, but she's not. This is a new character.
Paul Scheer
I mean, but by the way, it's like, why do you need three people, though? Even, like, even the writing is fat. It's like, yeah. Oh, and throw it to this next person. Are they, like, too, like, worried that people will get confused or, like, lose interest? Like, ah, we can't have them talk for more than half a page. We'll lose the audience.
Jessica St. Clair
I mean, in a lot of ways, I am the audience. I am their target audience in that I'm still.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, you're the. You're the audience in the sense that you watched the movie.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that is true.
Jessica St. Clair
No, but, like, I'm as dumb as the people. They're. They're. In terms of plot.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm listening.
Paul Scheer
I'm.
Jessica St. Clair
I really am. I'm simple when it comes to this stuff. I don't really pay attention.
Jason Mantzoukas
Dumb.
Jessica St. Clair
I'm not paying attention, you know, really. So. And I'm still confused.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
You know what I mean? I still.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, we're all still confused.
Jessica St. Clair
You are.
Paul Scheer
Oh, I'm confused. I mean, I'm confused. And then I do love. This is clip 10, Andy Garcia going, all right, just in case you didn't know, here's the entire plot. I'll scream. Act it. One take. Yeah, this is. This monologue is worthy of something. Not an Academy award, though. Clip 10. We're eating that anymore at Christmas. You're not. Genital. Watch. Oh, showing up. I want. You're not wanting and refusing to go away. You got something I need.
Jason Mantzoukas
Can you pause it for a second, Beth?
Jessica St. Clair
I can't understand.
Jason Mantzoukas
And we're going to scream. I want to. I want to go back and I want to go back and start it for a second because I really want you to notice how much Andy Garcia is projecting. Screaming, yelling. And then when it cuts to Statham, how he is talking as if the person who needs to hear him is next to him.
Jessica St. Clair
Okay.
Paul Scheer
We started again. All right, Christmas, you're like genital warts who's showing up where you're not wanted and refusing to go away. You got something I need, Marsh?
Jason Mantzoukas
Come down and get it.
Paul Scheer
I guess you figured out that this device right here is the only thing preventing World War Three, a conflict that, while devastating for many, it'll be insanely, insanely, insanely profitable for somebody. And not somebody. This is crazy to me. And the Expendables will take all the blood. Join the show.
Jason Mantzoukas
Great.
Paul Scheer
We don't need any more that the amount of. He yelled the entire plot.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, poor. I mean, poor Andy Garcia. I feel like they were like, we just need one that's bigger. Bigger. And he was like, I'll do it, but don't use it. But I've given you. I've given you so many that are. That are easier to understand. And this guy, he's supposed to be the big villain. And he's like.
Paul Scheer
And he grabs his dick. And here's the thing. He's obsessed with it because at a certain point, he goes like this. He goes, we talked about, like, how's it hanging? Gravity? And then he goes, keep them tucked, Keep them tough.
Jessica St. Clair
Is that something men say to other men?
Paul Scheer
Never heard anyone say keep, keep, keep.
Jessica St. Clair
Them tucked is what he says to state them, I think.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't remember that. And I don't care for it.
Paul Scheer
Keep them tucked, keep them tucked.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't know. I believe is the Salesforce motto. Salesforce, keep them tucked. Exceptt. Except we all know it's Salesforce. Keep them.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, baby. Now, I was confused. I don't know what they do when he throws that. He says, like, this is the device that could stop the bomb. The bomb. And then throws it over. I thought he was saying, like, having this is good. Like is valuable.
Paul Scheer
Well, I think that he want.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's basically okay.
Paul Scheer
I can.
Jason Mantzoukas
I can tell. Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jessica St. Clair
All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Do you want me to tell you what it is?
Jessica St. Clair
So.
Jason Mantzoukas
So his plan is to start World War 3 so it will be profitable for him and the other Musk type villains. Right?
Paul Scheer
Why?
Jessica St. Clair
Why will they make money off.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's him. It's Salesforce. It's Musk. It's all the billionaires. It's all the billionaires. Defund the billionaires.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
So he wants. So he's saying this, this device is the only thing that can stop the bomb from blowing up. So I'm throwing that overboard to make sure the bomb blows up. So.
Jessica St. Clair
And when it blows up, we're meant to believe that who did it? Who. Why is this.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are. They have falsely are flying an American flag on this thing so that it looks like. And they're going to be bomb Russia. I think they're going to hit Russia. White noise with an American. An American ship.
Paul Scheer
This is right.
Jessica St. Clair
Couldn't care less, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, to be clear, it does not matter one inch.
Jessica St. Clair
I missed all of it. I'm worried about my copies. I am worried.
Paul Scheer
No, no, no. All you need to know is like they. What I. When I watch a movie like this, I'm like, stop the nuclear warhead from going off. Like there's a great. There's this podcast like the Fuse, which I love. They've been doing these like back like these, these like histories of Mission Impossible. And they were trying to create this really elaborate like backstory for like a Mission Impossible the Ghost Protocol. And they've been working for months. And Tom Cruise goes, what if he's just stealing nukes? And they're like, what? He's like, easy to understand around the world. They all get it. Nukes, bad. That's what they should do. Like, all right. And that was the plot.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh yeah.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, it's great. Yeah, you get it by the way, Bad.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is. These movies are very Mission Impossible coded.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, with like Andy Garcia as the. Alec Baldwin as the ba ba ba ba ba.
Paul Scheer
All you need to know is like, bad guys have nukes. Good guys stop bad guys. Like they like the intricacies. They're not getting into global politics.
Jason Mantzoukas
But the movie can't quite cut the things together in the right way because they're cutting tonally between scenes in which like Stallone and Statham are joking around in the plane about golden showers and all this stuff. But they're cutting to the scene in Libya. Where is his name? Eco ways. Right? Yes, the guy from the raid and those movies. Slot Master. He is murdering children, women and children in order to get the detonators.
Jessica St. Clair
That's tough.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I was like, this is hard to cut back and forth between these jokes that Stallone's doing an infanticide.
Paul Scheer
We just a double headed dildo and then we watch a child get shot off screen.
Jessica St. Clair
That's tough.
Jason Mantzoukas
The child who's just seen his mother get killed who's just like, that's tough.
Paul Scheer
Now I will say where I was so upset at the end was Garcia gives that very impassioned monologue like, come down here, we'll fight. And you're like, all right, we're going to get like a Garcia. Stay the fight. Nope, Just killed.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, he's shot by Stallone. But I'm like, but here's the thing. Like, still. Okay. Will you stand up for a minute? Right there, Stallone. I'm Statham, you're Andy Garcia.
Jessica St. Clair
This is the kind of thing I'll have in my studies class. People acting things out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, Stallone is out there.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
He shoots.
Jason Mantzoukas
He shoots. He cuts Andy Garcia in half with like a.50 50 cal gun.
Jessica St. Clair
Sure.
Jason Mantzoukas
And Statham is right here. Every bullet would be like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Statham should have died so many times in this movie.
Jessica St. Clair
He seemed shocked, actually, that he wasn't dead right after. He's like, what the fuck was that?
Paul Scheer
I wish he was covered with, like, blood and viscera, though. It would have been like, you got Garcia on me.
Jessica St. Clair
I mean, honestly, I think the worst thing that happened in this movie is that Stallone died. Because once he died, fake died. I was so sad because what I was loving about it was the repartee, the jaunty.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
The chemistry. You know, the he said, she said of it all. Will they or won't they.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Of Statham and Stallone.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are the brothers. They're brothers. But it could be a white lotus.
Paul Scheer
Would you.
Jason Mantzoukas
It could be a white lotus where they jerk each other off. Maybe. Maybe this movie could have been better if they all jerked each other off.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes, Agreed.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm just saying.
Paul Scheer
Grab the shaft.
Jason Mantzoukas
Just saying.
Paul Scheer
And Stallone famously said, tickle the balls, grab the shift.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Which, you guys don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Google that when you get home.
Paul Scheer
All right, so here's some things that might hurt your vision of the brothers. This was originally supposed to be a spin off film for Jason Statham. Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
It was going to be Hobbs and Shaw scenario.
Paul Scheer
It was supposed to be called A Christmas Story.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love it. I love it.
Jessica St. Clair
I love this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
All right, and let me guess. Let me just hazard a guess. Would Sly let him get away with it?
Paul Scheer
Nope. And I'll tell you how that went down in one second. So there were three spin offs. A Christmas Story, the Expendables. All female expendables woke.
Jason Mantzoukas
Expendables is too woke.
Paul Scheer
So it was supposed to feature an all female cast, but it was shelved because they just decided to add more women. Two Expendables for.
Jessica St. Clair
Right?
Paul Scheer
So, like, whoa. If we just can put a couple.
Jessica St. Clair
Don't let them actually say or do anything.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
And every time they do say something, be like, that is stupid. That dumb.
Jason Mantzoukas
So I did. I. I loved the martial arts fight where.
Jessica St. Clair
Oh, that was hot.
Jason Mantzoukas
Where the. The. I don't know what. I don't know what her weapon is called, but that thing was incredible. Her and Tony Jaa teaming up. Nice work. Loved it.
Jessica St. Clair
Loved that.
Paul Scheer
So this is the timeline of this film. 2014, Expendables 3 comes out. It is a failure. All right. But producers go, we will return the series to its greatness. We're gonna bring it back to an R rating because Expendables 3 went to PG13. Oh, so then Stallone goes, In 2016, this is going to be the final film of the series. It's going to come out in 2018. Then in 2017, Stallone leaves the franchise due to creative differences over the script and the direction of the franchise. Then a year later, Schwarzenegger calls up Stallone and goes, buddy, you gotta go back to the Expendables.
Jessica St. Clair
Wow.
Paul Scheer
So then Stallone's like, all right, I will. So they hire a new screenwriter and then they get back the original director and everything now comes along, but they edge out. Or they take the script of Christmas Story and they put Stallone in it.
Jessica St. Clair
I see.
Paul Scheer
Bookend him in it. Now, this movie has been plagued with terrible casting problems. Pierce Brosnan stated that he agreed to be the villain and no one called him back.
Jessica St. Clair
Wait, what?
Paul Scheer
He.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait.
Paul Scheer
Met with the. Met with. The producers agreed to it, and then no one called him.
Laci Mosley
What?
Jason Mantzoukas
This. The Expendables movie ghosted Pierce Brosnan.
Paul Scheer
What?
Jason Mantzoukas
And I just got a thing that's a visual and it's Stallone's phone, and it's just Pierce Brosnan text that just says, you up? No reply.
Paul Scheer
Now, I guess the reason why they didn't call him back is because Stallone had his sights on pulling a person out of retirement. And that person, Jack Nicholson. This movie came out in 2023.
Jason Mantzoukas
Is this for the Andy Garcia role? Yes. Okay, okay, okay.
Paul Scheer
So I guess Stallone's like, we're going to get Jack back.
Jessica St. Clair
Jax. At this point, I haven't seen Jax stand up.
Paul Scheer
No.
Jessica St. Clair
Like, he would end up looking like that. That gelatinous dude, just, like, put a bunch of, like, sunglasses on.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'll be honest, I Didn't see many of these dudes stand up. No, this is a mostly sitting movie. Let's be clear. The team of expendables is two hot young women and a bunch of over.
Paul Scheer
80 year old men that don't take off their shirts. Thank God. I know. Except for Jason Statham who does and looks great. So when they couldn't.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think that Jason Statham isn't jacked.
Paul Scheer
Oh yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love it.
Paul Scheer
He's got the body.
Jessica St. Clair
Also, can I. I know everyone's waiting for me to weigh in on the amount of chest hair that Statham has. And I'm gonna say something. I know I said all the hair or none of the hair, but Jason, perfect amount.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Jessica St. Clair
Perfect amount. And I even thought to myself, I bet hair and makeup was in there. And they just did a light trim, just a light dusting. They took a little bit off the top.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, you like something?
Paul Scheer
No, no.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is with clippers.
Paul Scheer
He looked great. He's a swimmer. He has a hairless body.
Jason Mantzoukas
You want to clipper him down?
Jessica St. Clair
No, I think they did just. Just a little bit.
Jason Mantzoukas
They did that like a number two.
Jessica St. Clair
No, they didn't. No, they're going in with hand shears. They're.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, they're going in with what, like cuticle scissors?
Jessica St. Clair
Yes, yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
You think they're hitting with cuticles? Absolutely not.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes, they are. Because it was a perfect amount. You're not going to get lost in it.
Paul Scheer
No.
Jessica St. Clair
You know, but there's not nothing. Because nothing on him would have not been right. That's not the guy in the streets.
Paul Scheer
He actually looks more muscular with a little hair there because covers up.
Jessica St. Clair
Agreed.
Paul Scheer
So now I just want to. I just want to go down as a bald man. I love listing a bald man out there. The little hairy chest. I like the whole thing.
Jessica St. Clair
A little bit of something.
Jason Mantzoukas
We gotta let. We gotta let men be hairy, everybody. What are we doing?
Jessica St. Clair
I love to take a.
Jason Mantzoukas
When I'm teaching. When I'm teaching my masculinity class for the men's study program that Jessica St. Clair specifically started. Not my idea, hers. A feminist idea if ever I've heard one. For there to be a men's studies course. I want that I will be teaching here at Stanford.
Paul Scheer
I am going to sign up for this class. The two of you on either side of the class are teaching simultaneously. All right. So I just want to go through this list because this list is insane.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
So he wants Jack Nicholson, who. And by the way, God bless, he's an older Gentleman. He seemed like he had a hard enough time just saying. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul McCartney in the SNL 50. I'm glad that he was there is awesome. But he's.
Jessica St. Clair
I don't want him in a night shoot.
Paul Scheer
I don't want to put a heavy gun on this man. We don't do you know what I'm doing?
Jessica St. Clair
That'd be it for him. That'd be a wrap on Jack.
Paul Scheer
So when he said no, Stallone's like, all right, I got my number two. Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood said no. Then he's like, I got my number three. Kurt Russell.
Jessica St. Clair
Kurt Russell said, no, I'm busy doing Santa Claus three.
Paul Scheer
Then he goes, I got my fourth. Carl Weathers. Carl Weathers says no.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, that's a bummer.
Paul Scheer
Then he goes to Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan says, no. Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Paul Scheer
Then the Rock says, I'll play the.
Jason Mantzoukas
Villain because he says yes to everything Rock.
Paul Scheer
And then Ron Pearlman's like, I'll be the villain in this. But instead, Stallone goes to his friend Hulk Hogan.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hulk Hogan.
Paul Scheer
Hulk Hogan.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hulk Hogan.
Jessica St. Clair
Hulk Hogan.
Jason Mantzoukas
Who's Hulk Hogan?
Paul Scheer
Hulk Hogan. So then he's in, talks to play the villain.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, the owner of Gawker.
Paul Scheer
And then he falls out. But then Jean Claude Van Damme says, well, I'll come back and play.
Jason Mantzoukas
Has he already been in it?
Paul Scheer
Yes. Oh, I'll come back and play my twin brother.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fuck, yeah. The only answer should have been yes.
Jessica St. Clair
A thousand times, yes.
Paul Scheer
And the first movie, I believe his name is Claude Villain. And he pitched a character called Gene Villain.
Jason Mantzoukas
He gets it. He gets it.
Jessica St. Clair
That's cute.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, to be clear, he doesn't get it.
Paul Scheer
And then, of course, Andy Garcia.
Jessica St. Clair
They must have backed up a truck of money to Andy Garcia. I'm serious. For him to say yes to this, I'm surprised.
Paul Scheer
We weren't asking to be villains by this point, but all the people that they said no to. But it also is odd because Pierce Brosnan wouldn't make sense. I guess you would be like, well, he's British. Like, he could. Could he be in, like. It seems very much like Americans want to start World War iii. So that would also make Jackie Chan a little suspect. Like, it would. You'd have to rejigger the entire plot.
Jason Mantzoukas
My guess is that they didn't even have a script at this point. Yeah, they were just trying to lock in as many old people as they could.
Paul Scheer
With all Expendables, what they do is they find an old script and they just slap Expendables. On it.
Jason Mantzoukas
So I heard the. I heard Hume Cronin was in for a while.
Paul Scheer
This script was originally titled High Value Target. And I mean, it's so crazy. It was a script that Millennium Films found. They go, this is a movie for Jason Statham called High Value Target. Then it becomes. No, we'll make it a spin off of Expendables with Jason Statham. Then they're like, no, actually, we'll just make it Expendables 4 with the entire team and. But yet none of the plot or story changed from High Value Target, the first.
Jessica St. Clair
That's crazy.
Paul Scheer
So it's like. It is. It is bargain bin filmmaking.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, it is. And it's so cheap. So did you earlier, before we came out, did I hear you say the budget was $100 million? Yeah, that's just. That's. That's all the stars, all actors. That's all actors fees.
Jessica St. Clair
Do you think? Or maybe it's all the explosion.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, it's all actors fees because it's not on the screen.
Paul Scheer
Definitely getting 20 plus. Easy, easy.
Jessica St. Clair
Putting himself in the movie because he needs that payday.
Paul Scheer
Well, I do want to. Before we go out to the audience. We'll go out there in a second. I do want to see when Statham, I think, does a nod to his own character in the Transporter when he plays a private security guard for a streamer. This is.
Jessica St. Clair
This is a crazy.
Paul Scheer
This is insane. Clip six. What's up? I'm here and my NOLA pad. Live streaming to you at home. This is the party 1. Summing into your pathetic little lives. Look at these, Nolan. Which one. No, which two am I gonna.
Jason Mantzoukas
After? I have some respect for the ladies. I am live streaming here. You guys believe this?
Paul Scheer
Look at this guy. Who does this think he is? Pause it for one second. What I got obsessed with was watching the comments. Someone goes hot, and then someone looks. I bet he has a big dick. I mean, they put an eggplant emoji there.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, do you know, there was a moment where they were like, holy shit. You know what we can do? We can put the chat. We can just put stuff. We can put jokes in here.
Jessica St. Clair
It still sounds like.
Jason Mantzoukas
What are you talking about? How about golden showers? More golden showers.
Paul Scheer
Diego Silva wrote who? Dad? All right, continue this if we can get off my ball. Do you know how much money I make up? I think I'm pregnant. God damn, he's hot.
Jason Mantzoukas
My favorite part, though, is later in the movie when Statham gets onto the pirate boat that is across the world. From this scene, the pirates are watching this video.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
What a missed opportunity for him to go kick their asses. And they'd be like, whoa, whoa, that's the guy.
Paul Scheer
I also like that the logic there is that, well, you know, it was in America, it was lies. But, you know, and where they are at, it's different times. Streaming is different. You know, it doesn't do the whole thing. And I would. I did love that. That boat seemingly was filled with, what, 100,000 people?
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
That all hid perfectly. Yeah. I mean, they. They have a motorcycle chase on a.
Jason Mantzoukas
Boat, and I had, you know, in a way that's like cat and mouse.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
But they're hiding.
Jessica St. Clair
Why would a boat like that have so many motorcycles?
Jason Mantzoukas
Also, why? Why? In order to get through a boat, you have to go through doors that, like, have a. Like, are sealable.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, yeah. Like a porthole. But when I. Like when he goes up to the row of motorcycles, it literally looked like a city bike. Like, when you would, like, put your credit card in, I was like, why? Why a city? Motorcycles in the ocean.
Jason Mantzoukas
Just a bunch of bird scooters. Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
But you know what? Again, for my men's studies, men love motorcycles. I guess that's something.
Jason Mantzoukas
Motorcycles and guns.
Jessica St. Clair
They have to have the cycle where.
Jason Mantzoukas
Motorcycles and guns. Yeah, they just have to. And imagine if they'd had those motorcycles on the Titanic.
Jessica St. Clair
Imagine Jack.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jack and Rose could have been like.
Paul Scheer
All right, I'm in the audience. I'm here to take questions. I am going to go. Oh, wait a second. I forgot my most important thing. Hold on. This is going to be worth it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, this is totally worth it.
Paul Scheer
Oh, the other night, I was gifted Gerard Butler's shirt from den of Thieves 2.
Jessica St. Clair
It's so hot on you.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's the real shirt from the real.
Paul Scheer
Real shirt from the movie.
Jessica St. Clair
So hot on you. Paul.
Paul Scheer
And I only enter the audience in my Gerard Butler Big Nick shirt.
Jessica St. Clair
Still. Still smells like him. Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Den of thieves 2. Pantera.
Paul Scheer
I'm not gonna make it. I mean, if you. Only if you want. Smell it. How good it smells.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, smell it. I'll give it a smell. Ah, that's vintage Gerard. Vintage Jerry.
Jason Mantzoukas
It smells like Scotland.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, the Pete.
Paul Scheer
All right, I'm putting you on the spot. What is your name?
Jason Mantzoukas
Megan.
Paul Scheer
Megan, do you have a question?
Jason Mantzoukas
So my question is, after Stallone dies, I thought it was so weird that Statham's first activity was to delete him out of his phone.
Jessica St. Clair
Oh, my God. Yeah, you're right. Most people don't ever Delete that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Here's what I'll say. This will be covered in one of my men's classes.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because you got to be. You got to be ruthless.
Jessica St. Clair
It's going to be about grief. Men in grief.
Jason Mantzoukas
Men in grief. And how we can't handle our friends. Deaths. How we can't handle our emotions.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes.
Paul Scheer
I have. I have a person that I know who passed. I was not very close with them. And every time I've gone and seen their name, I think, oh, I should delete that. But I'm like, no, I can't. It's disrespectful. That's exactly right, brother. He's like, nink. Gotta save those files.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, like, you wouldn't ever want to go. Go and look at that chat you had or look at the pictures that have been shared in there. Nothing done. Goodbye.
Paul Scheer
Stallone is just sending him gifts of, like, golden showers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, just, just, just piss. Piss.
Jessica St. Clair
Eggplant emojis. When they find. When Stallone finally figured out how he could do a gif.
Paul Scheer
Wait a minute.
Jason Mantzoukas
Egg. Wait a minute. Eggplant means what? Egg. Eggplant means what? You heard about this eggplant thing? Whoa, whoa. The cat.
Paul Scheer
The cat birthday is today and the cat's very excited about this cake. All right. Yes. You have a question? What's your name?
Jason Mantzoukas
Thomas.
Paul Scheer
All right, Thomas, what's your. What's your question? Can Jason Statham see satellites? All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm inclined to think he can. Like, I would let him. I would let him.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
I think because he is a drinker. We've seen that drinking does improve your eyesight. So maybe he could see. Yeah, he has, like, bionic sight. Yeah. What's her name? What's her question?
Jessica St. Clair
My name is Soraya.
Paul Scheer
I just have a comment.
Jessica St. Clair
But the guy who was related who was talking about the golden shower that you guys were talking about was like Puss in Boots. Yeah. Was supposed to be Antonio Banderas son from the third movie.
Paul Scheer
Oh, wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
So he's literally. It's purposeful.
Jessica St. Clair
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's purposeful that he has that vibe. Okay, great call.
Jessica St. Clair
Great.
Paul Scheer
See?
Jason Mantzoukas
See? Excellent work. That's how it's done.
Jessica St. Clair
That's how it's done, everybody. Simple Google. We could have done, but we didn't.
Paul Scheer
All right, I saw you from across the way. What do you got? I see the paper's up. Hi, how are you?
Jason Mantzoukas
Hi, I'm Jenny.
Jessica St. Clair
Hi.
Paul Scheer
Hi, Jenny. What Seal Team unit were you in? Seal Team 6. Seal Team 8. All right, so what's your question?
Jason Mantzoukas
Two things, if I may. If not, it's cool.
Paul Scheer
Go for it. Let's say let's agree to one, and then we'll see where we are at. Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
So in the beginning, when Megan Fox and Statham are going to bone, she's fully dressed, and then he's going to go down on her. And then they look over at the negligee. So then she gets fully naked. And then when they go to the bed scene, now she's in the negligee. So to have sex, she got fully naked and then took the time to put the negligee on.
Paul Scheer
Well, because he's like. He's like, do me a favor. And she's like, go down on me first, and then I'll get dressed up for you.
Jason Mantzoukas
He. He requests the negligee.
Jessica St. Clair
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
He stops. What's happening? To be like, hang on.
Jessica St. Clair
Do an old soldier a favor.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
She says, eat me out first. Then they must have like, what, made a sandwich while she wills and puts the negligee on.
Jason Mantzoukas
Also, here's my. I mean, this is just me. My personal. I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yums. I don't need a negligee.
Jessica St. Clair
I know.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm not interested in a negligee.
Paul Scheer
I thought she looked great.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, she looks great. I'm not. I'm just saying at that point, I'm like, let's get you out of all clothes.
Paul Scheer
But can I tell you why? It's Christmas. He likes his presence gift wrapped.
Jessica St. Clair
That's right. Oh, good one, Paul.
Paul Scheer
And I also want to say, Jess, your recall for certain lines in this movie is really blowing me away.
Jessica St. Clair
I know. I feel like this movie is part of me now and not in a good way.
Jason Mantzoukas
This tour has changed you.
Jessica St. Clair
Oh, for sure. I'm straight up losing my fucking mind.
Paul Scheer
All right. I think you did good enough to get a second question. What do you got?
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you. Second is. I don't know his name, but the Thailand boat captain guy, they went to the effort to ADR all of his lines, but you still can't understand a single one.
Paul Scheer
This is kind of the issue. I've noticed sometimes that happens. I don't know why. Did you guys check that out?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. I feel like Tony Ja and Iko, right? They had. They had lines to deliver that they just couldn't get through. And the movie should have helped them with that. Like, I feel like the movie hung them out to dry.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. It's like, do this monologue.
Jessica St. Clair
I was also curious as to why, when we see Daisha that's his character's name. Right? When he comes back to help. I know. I don't.
Jason Mantzoukas
She has it. She has it in her notes. She has it in her notes.
Jessica St. Clair
I do have some.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's Tony.
Jessica St. Clair
I don't know why that guy. I don't know why that guy's name is Toll Road. But. But Daisha.
Jason Mantzoukas
Toll Road or Toblerone. My Expendables name. If I can get in one of these movies. Toblerone.
Jessica St. Clair
No, they would call you, like. Like falafel or, like, you know, some.
Paul Scheer
Wow, wow, wow.
Jessica St. Clair
They'd be like, what's up, hummus? What's up, shawarma?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's up, Shwerva?
Paul Scheer
She has.
Jason Mantzoukas
None of these are Greek dishes.
Paul Scheer
Souvlaki.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's up, spanakopada? This is racism.
Paul Scheer
What's up, spanakopada?
Jason Mantzoukas
This is racism.
Paul Scheer
Welcome to New America, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow. This is. This is. Wait, I just got a text. You're in the cabinet. You. You. You're replacing Stefanik.
Jessica St. Clair
Stuff it set up.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, okay. Yes. Your name, Your question.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, hey, my name is Lauren. Hi.
Jessica St. Clair
Hi. I was wanting to go back to the Andy Garcia monologue of Nonsense where.
Jason Mantzoukas
He is yelling at Jason Statham and he accuses them of having genital warts.
Jessica St. Clair
And no one ever brought that up.
Jason Mantzoukas
Did you hear that?
Jessica St. Clair
He's like, genitals?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
He's saying, you're like, you keep coming.
Jason Mantzoukas
Back and I can't. I can't get rid of you. Basically.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. He's like, it. Yeah. He doesn't have.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's not saying. He's not. Andy Garcia's not saying. You gave me Jetted awards. You gave me Jedit awards. You have them, and now I have them. Genital warts. Please don't film this.
Paul Scheer
What do you got? What happened to Daisha?
Jason Mantzoukas
He.
Paul Scheer
He explained that he couldn't fight because.
Jason Mantzoukas
He would not be able to stop again.
Paul Scheer
And then we don't see what happens to him at the end.
Jason Mantzoukas
He doesn't stop.
Jessica St. Clair
Is he still there fighting? Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
He's still fucking going.
Jessica St. Clair
Why does he show up looking like Captain Jack Sparrow? He's got full, like, eye makeup. He's done a whole makeover on himself.
Paul Scheer
Well, it seemed like he was getting ready to fight in the jungle, not on a military ship.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Like, he would blend into, like, the. The weeds and the grass.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'll be honest, though, because when Tony Ja showed up, I was like, fuck, yes, Tony Jaw's here. And then he was like, I don't fight anymore. And I was like, oh, because you've got, like, the best guy for fighting in the movie now, and you're telling me he doesn't fight? So when he comes in, when he Han. Solos himself back in, I was like, fuck, yes. And then is just taking dudes out. I was like, give me this all day, every day. The only bummer was that I felt like he didn't get enough time. He didn't get enough fights. I wanted. I felt like this. This movie needed more.
Jessica St. Clair
Less slicing. Less slicing and stabbing and more of what?
Jason Mantzoukas
And more heightening. More heightening. It wasn't just enough to be like, great, we're fighting this guy, then scale it up. Uhoh. Now Tony Ja's got to fight six guys right then. Oh, okay. Him and Lash got to go back to back and kill a bunch of people. Give me that. All the time.
Jessica St. Clair
That's why it felt like the fighting stayed on one.
Jason Mantzoukas
Very, very lateral moves. Very lateral, very lateral moves. I agree. Except for when they killed that kid.
Jessica St. Clair
Or the kid's mom and the kid just had to look at it.
Jason Mantzoukas
We don't. She gets killed off camera.
Jessica St. Clair
I know, but then she's just laying there, and they're like, look at the dead mom.
Paul Scheer
All right, sir, your name? Your. What SEAL team were you in?
Jason Mantzoukas
My name is Keith and SEAL Team six.
Paul Scheer
Okay. Wow. SEAL Team Six. This is great. Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
All right, so here's my curiosity. There's a nuclear bomb in the hull of the ship. It's got, like, three minutes left. It is the longest three minutes in all of the world. It's like, there's a time stop. Andy Garcia's helicopter gets blown up. He throws the kill switch over, and then they try to take a little rubber boat and try to escape. There's no way, even if you had the helicopter that they would be able to escape. The explosion in the blast radius there is literally impossible. There's not enough time.
Paul Scheer
First, let me ask you a question. Did you see how many rings he had on? Maybe for. If somebody doesn't wear a fuckload of rings. It's not enough time. There's always enough time.
Jason Mantzoukas
I agree with you, because it would have made more sense if Andy Garcia was like, I'm tossing the thing overboard. Me and my men are going to die. But the event that I've put into motion is still going to happen, and that's all I care about. But the fact that he thought he could escape means he's a moron. And if he is, in fact, that big of a moron, Then the moron that is Sylvester Stallone should have caught him by now.
Paul Scheer
But by the way, he could have just gotten in that helicopter. He didn't even. There's so many things. He could have just left with that switch and been gone. It wouldn't have been fine.
Jessica St. Clair
He didn't need to throw it over. I feel like that was a big mistake.
Jason Mantzoukas
And even more so. So Sylvester Stallone shoots the boat to sink it. There's 30 seconds left on the timer. There is no way that it sinks. That. It's literally. The physics do not add up. There's no way. Hey, hey, my guy, my guy.
Jessica St. Clair
You getting as upset as Andy Garcia.
Jason Mantzoukas
Take a breath, take a breath. Take a breath.
Paul Scheer
This.
Jason Mantzoukas
This guy's going to have a stroke.
Paul Scheer
This is.
Jason Mantzoukas
We're talking about expendables for always getting such a cute hug. Look at the hug he's getting from his wife.
Jessica St. Clair
This is cute.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is cute as hell. Oh, my God, I love them.
Paul Scheer
This is why they kicked that fucking nerd Albert Einstein off the team.
Jason Mantzoukas
But I mean, you're right in the sense too, that, like, the nuclear bomb was so big, it would have caused so much destruction. They just got so lucky that Jason Statham was able to drift the aircraft carrier like he's in Tokyo drift. He drifts an aircraft carrier until it turns all the way around and then. And then hits it. Like. Like there's a. There's a phrase like you can't turn an aircraft carrier around fast, right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that famous phrase.
Jessica St. Clair
What, that old fettled chestnut.
Jason Mantzoukas
What is the first phrase?
Paul Scheer
I think it's just a theory. I think it's a theory that you can't. Like the Titanic couldn't turn that.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, one degree. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Okay. All right, wait a second.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hang on, hang on. Paul.
Paul Scheer
What.
Jason Mantzoukas
What did you have to say?
Jessica St. Clair
One degree.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, I just hear you behind me going, one degree. Yeah, yeah, like you're just cooked.
Paul Scheer
You're just.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're just doing free jazz.
Paul Scheer
We broke Jess.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is like a Ken. This is like a Ken Nordine album. Like, what's up, man?
Paul Scheer
Jess is so broken by this tour that she went to the airport in Los Angeles today without a ticket because she forgot to buy one.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, you're wrong. She bought one for May, guys. She'll be here in May. May 1st. Jessica St. Clair. Right here. Your one man show. Men matter.
Jessica St. Clair
I bought a ticket for a flight that was leaving 25 minutes later and they wouldn't let me on. And the woman goes, well, mostly the people who do that Are, you know, people who want to blow up planes?
Jason Mantzoukas
Me. They say me. It's me. You can say it. I know what you're thinking. It's falafel next to you.
Paul Scheer
I want Jess. And the expenditure.
Jessica St. Clair
Good old baba ganoush.
Paul Scheer
Hey.
Jason Mantzoukas
Baba ganoush. Hey. At least it's got the eggplant.
Paul Scheer
All right. Oh, my goodness. All right. Well, clearly we had opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hi, I'm Shawna. Dead man roasted in a burning plain. Megan Fox in sexy clothes, machine guns on bikes, and some crazy knife fights. Jason Statham, five star.
Paul Scheer
Yes. Great job.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's how it's done. That's how it's done. Frisco.
Jessica St. Clair
Beautiful.
Paul Scheer
Expendables 4 on Amazon. 12,000 reviews.
Jessica St. Clair
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, that's depressing.
Paul Scheer
I will tell you that we've done this show multiple times. I could get 1,000. Get 112,000. 66% are five star reviews.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's so crazy is that that doesn't jibe with what it made at all.
Paul Scheer
No, because people are waiting to watch it at home. Like Mr. Ammo. Mr. Ammo writes well. Sylvester Stallone is getting pretty old, but in this movie he carries a pretty heavy gun. Or at least in part of the movie. I don't want to be the spoiler, so I'm not going to tell you, but I was really impressed with this one. I think this is the best out of all of them, having that cast around him. Especially Jason Statham. Man. Of course, 50 Cent plays a bad, bad man. So get the popcorn, sit down and have a drink. Ready? It's action from beginning to end. Five stars. Wow. Title. Five stars on the Expendables.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why?
Paul Scheer
Seems like he's questioning himself now. This one is odd from Harold Gertzinger. I enjoyed it, but I'm a big Denzel Washington fan.
Jessica St. Clair
What?
Paul Scheer
He went a little John Wick on this one. LOL. 5 stars.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, this person thinks they're reviewing the equipment. Equalizer. Yes, that's it.
Jessica St. Clair
Poor thing.
Paul Scheer
By the way.
Jason Mantzoukas
And they're right. The Equalizer movies are incredible.
Paul Scheer
They're so good.
Jason Mantzoukas
Incredible.
Paul Scheer
But he does go a little John Wick. Sherry Cooper, Right?
Jessica St. Clair
Female voice.
Paul Scheer
Once again. This was a great gift idea for my husband. Oh, five stars once again.
Jason Mantzoukas
Once again. How many agree expendables? Four DVDs does he have four years.
Paul Scheer
In a row now? Every now and then we look at the one star reviews. There's only 4% that are one star. And I wanted to read this one here because I'll just read the the middle of it from Scott A. I can't take women seriously as badass chicks if they're dressing like they're going to go out on a date to impress a whole restauran. I can dress my wife up like that whenever I want. I'm here for the guns. Now, I'm a little gun shy, no pun intended, but I would gladly chuck more money at a number five. No questions asked. One star.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, this. Basically, this guy is saying it's too woke.
Jessica St. Clair
My heart weeps for us.
Jason Mantzoukas
And that's.
Paul Scheer
I also like, he says I can dress my wife up like that too.
Jessica St. Clair
To impress a whole restaurant. That's what I think when I'm putting on my clothes, I go, restaurant, get a load of me.
Jason Mantzoukas
The whole restaurant drive.
Paul Scheer
Everyone in Olive Garden's going to be like, who is that? Piece of tush.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, piece of tush.
Jessica St. Clair
I'll get those twice baked, loaded tater skins with the side of my ass.
Paul Scheer
Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas
Get a load of those twice baked tato skins. Jason.
Paul Scheer
Jessica, anything you want to add? Anything we might have missed any, do you want?
Jason Mantzoukas
I was thrilled when Jason, since Daytham found a tactical hatchet that was hot. I was like, are you fucking kidding?
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then he has it on his back for like three different fights and doesn't use it even when he gets disarmed. He gets disarmed and doesn't just go, bam. And then he finally does and it's just one move. And I was like, boring. He could have used the tactical hatchet the whole time. And in fact, he should have had two, you know, Right.
Paul Scheer
That would have been awesome. Like the raid. Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would have loved that. Let's see.
Paul Scheer
I'll give you one thing here, Jason, because we've brought this up a couple times. This was shot on location in Greece. Members of the Greek armed forces were used as extras and allegedly not paid.
Jessica St. Clair
Oh, paid in hummus, I bet.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hummus.
Paul Scheer
They were not.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is. This slander will not get ready. When this episode comes out, you're going to hear from Greeks.
Paul Scheer
It says, not compensated for their month long official deployment and they worked overtime.
Jessica St. Clair
Oh, no, this does not reflect well.
Paul Scheer
This movie was also released in mainland China before the United States.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, interesting.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Where do we have how much it made there? Because I bet. I bet internationally this movie made a lot of money.
Paul Scheer
All right, so in the United states it made 16 million worldwide, 51 million.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, okay. So still not great.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah, still not make it back.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Interesting.
Paul Scheer
Okay. So, Jess, anything you want to bring up?
Jessica St. Clair
You know, I've taken a ride tonight. I started out saying I loved it, and then I realized most of the time I was watching it. I think I was doing my hair. And this is not a bit. I really was doing my hair and applying fake eyelashes for y'. All.
Paul Scheer
Trying to impress the entire restaurant, I bet.
Jessica St. Clair
Trying to impress the entire restaurant. So now that I've heard this discussion of the film, I'm really gonna question me saying I loved it in the very beginning. I think it is a piece of shit. And I. And I think women are treated terribly in this film. I would still, though, fuck Statham, and I think we all would give it to Stallone.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, you would fuck Tulsa King?
Jessica St. Clair
Yep.
Jason Mantzoukas
I bet they. I bet they would cast you on Tulsa King as his loving interest.
Jessica St. Clair
Thanks. I appreciate that.
Jason Mantzoukas
I believe in you. My favorite line, which we haven't talked about, is when Dolph Lundgren does, in fact, succumb to the. To the. To the booze again so that he can become a good sniper. And he says, it's good to be back.
Jessica St. Clair
That's nice.
Paul Scheer
As an alcoholic. Great message for any older person watching this movie who is struggling with their. Their urigist to be like, maybe. Maybe I should go back to the sauce. Like, it really is a terrible moral for anyone wrestling it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah. And it's not until we played the clip that I saw he's reading a book called, like, Sober Living.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jessica St. Clair
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, his whole character seems to be.
Paul Scheer
Being sober in the first movie. It's a big deal that they kind of, like, get him out of the drunk tank a little bit. I. I enjoyed it. It's not a good movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, it's legit bad.
Paul Scheer
And it's. The CGI is awful. The. It feels so cramped. It feels like. It feels like they shot in escape rooms. Like, that's everything.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Jessica St. Clair
Been in escape rooms now in almost every city on this tour.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yes. I'm solo with my kids, and I'm. I've been. I can tell you. Boise, Idaho. I was at their escape room. It looked better than most sets in this.
Jessica St. Clair
And probably the plot you were given. I've never been in one was better than this. Had more twists and turns.
Paul Scheer
Oh, absolutely. Last night, we were in escape room. We were trapped in there. It was in the dark. We didn't know why. We had to find out who did it.
Jessica St. Clair
Worst nightmare. Truly.
Paul Scheer
Truly. It's fun.
Jessica St. Clair
I'd be stuck in there Forever.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, you would be.
Paul Scheer
They were.
Jason Mantzoukas
And only because you wouldn't try to get. You would give up immediately. The lights would go out and you'd be like, oh, well my. I guess I'll just die here.
Paul Scheer
My youngest son did say in the middle of the one yesterday, I'm tired. Can I lay down?
Jessica St. Clair
I was like, they've been on the road.
Jason Mantzoukas
Please do not let your children lay down on escape room floors. I gotta be telling you, don't do it. Hepatitis, the movie again. Going back.
Jessica St. Clair
That'd be a great name for one of the expendables. Hepatitis. Get it? Get him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah. I mean, this cast is riddled with hepatitis.
Paul Scheer
Through STDs. And ex wives abound on this movie big time. Well, that's our show. But before we go, Jason, want to plug anything?
Jason Mantzoukas
If you haven't seen it already, Invincible season three just wrapped up. Bow, bow, bow, bow. One of the best shows on television. Don't sleep on it. Coming up in early May. It's called Taskmaster. Get the fuck ready, America. I flew on a plane to tell these fucking assholes what's up. Also, it's coming to an end, guys. They won't let me fuck pillows anymore. Big mouth. Season eight, May 20. May 20. May 20. Something. Get ready. It's all done and it's a great season. So those are my plugs. And. Oh, I'll also plug. Local band Deaf Heaven has a new record. Oh, why not support them? And also while we're at it, let's support the Aquarius music documentary. I found it at Aquarius Records. It's about an incredible San Francisco record store. Aquarius Records. RIP A legend.
Jessica St. Clair
If you haven't already, please check out the Deep Dive that I host with our queen, June Diane Rayfiel. And if you would like to join us at the Deep Dive Academy of Significance, we would love to have you. Our accreditation is pending, but the doors of enrollment are open. Go to thedeepdiveacademy.com oh, and if you'd like to become a better small talker, I wrote an audiobook that's great. Called the Art of Small Talk with Casey Wilson. And it has great interviews with Amy Poehler, Tony Hale.
Paul Scheer
It's great.
Jessica St. Clair
My dad.
Paul Scheer
Dad is fantastic. Every week on YouTube I have a new show with Rob Huebel called the Dark Web. We are finding the weirdest shit online. We are ordering things from temu. It's weird, it's fun, and they are bite sized episodes. They're only 20 minutes long. We found out yesterday 60% of our viewers are watching on TVs. I thought they would be watching on phones or computers. What's it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah, my book, Joyful Recognition Trauma, I talked about that. That's available. You go to the website. I can personalize it for you. Big thanks to our tour manager, Beth, who's been amazing.
Jason Mantzoukas
Give it up for Beth.
Paul Scheer
So great. Give it up for Jason Mansukas. Jessica St. Clair, I am Paul Scheer. Thank you San Francisco.
Jason Mantzoukas
We will be back. Eat shit, San Francisco.
Paul Scheer
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Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? – "Expend4bles LIVE! w/ Jessica St. Clair"
Release Date: July 25, 2025
In this lively episode of the award-winning comedy podcast How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas dive deep into the chaotic spectacle that is "Expend4bles LIVE! w/ Jessica St. Clair." Joined by special guest Jessica St. Clair, the trio dissect every aspect of this action-packed, yet critically panned installment of the Expendables franchise.
The episode kicks off with Paul Scheer humorously referencing the retirement age of the franchise's aging action stars, setting the tone for a critique filled with both nostalgia and satire.
Paul Scheer (00:00):
"You ever wonder how far an EV can take you on one charge? Well, most people drive about 40 miles a day..."
Note: Skipping the advertisement segments for T-Mobile and other sponsors to focus on the content.
The hosts express their bafflement and disappointment with "Expend4bles LIVE!", highlighting its departure from the original trilogy's charm and coherence.
Paul Scheer (07:02):
"Hello, people of Earth. Hel. People of San Francisco. Well, well, it's not often we get a chance to talk about the fourth entry in a series. And it's because most movies that are this bad don't make four entries."
Jason Mantzoukas (05:09):
"What's up, jerks?"
The playful banter underscores their skepticism about the film's existence and quality.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the film's cast, particularly the performances of Jason Statham and the controversial inclusion of Megan Fox.
Jessica St. Clair (09:35):
"I loved it."
While Jessica initially praises her enjoyment of the film, her perspective shifts as the conversation unfolds, reflecting the hosts' growing disillusionment.
Paul Scheer (10:30):
"I do love Jason Statham in this movie. Like, I think, amazing, great."
Jason echoes this sentiment, commending Statham's consistency and humor amidst the film's flaws.
Jason Mantzoukas (07:55):
"I'll be honest, I didn't see many of these dudes stand up. No, this is a mostly sitting movie."
The hosts lament the underutilization of established action stars, leading to repetitive and uninspired performances.
The episode delves into the movie's technical shortcomings, particularly its reliance on green screen and poor CGI.
Jessica St. Clair (33:56):
"I feel like the shittiest green screen I've ever seen."
Jason Mantzoukas (34:01):
"Like, if I went to, like, the Harry Potter exhibit and I'm like, I'm flying."
These critiques highlight the film's low production values, detracting from the overall viewing experience.
The hosts criticize the movie's convoluted plot and inconsistent pacing, which undermine the narrative's effectiveness.
Jason Mantzoukas (76:00):
"So his plan is to start World War 3 so it will be profitable for him and the other Musk type villains."
Paul Scheer (77:27):
"But the movie can't quite cut the things together in the right way because they're cutting tonally between scenes in which like Stallone's doing a infanticide."
The abrupt transitions and lack of logical progression render the story confusing and disengaging.
Despite the overall negative reception, the hosts find humor in the film's absurdities and over-the-top moments.
Paul Scheer (52:34):
"Which, you guys don't know. You could say it. You could put Seal in the movie."
Jessica St. Clair (89:50):
"But Aperol Alma, I'd say that stuffing is so hot."
Their witty remarks and playful mocking add a comedic layer to the critique, keeping the discussion entertaining.
In the latter part of the episode, the hosts engage with the audience, addressing questions and sharing final opinions on the film's legacy.
Jessica St. Clair (86:36):
"I really wanna question me saying I loved it in the very beginning. I think it is a piece of shit."
Paul Scheer (83:13):
"Heavily unfinished. It was a big deal that they kind of, like, get him out of the drunk tank a little bit."
Their candid reflections underscore the film's failure to resonate, despite a star-studded cast.
Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reaffirm their initial skepticism while acknowledging the passionate fanbase that might still find enjoyment in "Expend4bles LIVE!". Their blend of humor, sarcasm, and genuine critique offers listeners a comprehensive look into why this installment stands out—as one of the worst movies ever made.
Jason Mantzoukas (82:19):
"This was a great gift idea for my husband."
Paul Scheer (86:06):
"Megan Fox appears because she appears as if, oh, the team's back together. Like in some way."
Note: Conclusion drawn from the overall discussion, omitting promotional and advertisement segments.
Notable Quotes:
Paul Scheer (07:02):
"Hello, people of Earth. Hel. People of San Francisco."
Jessica St. Clair (33:56):
"I feel like the shittiest green screen I've ever seen."
Jason Mantzoukas (76:00):
"So his plan is to start World War 3 so it will be profitable for him and the other Musk type villains."
Jessica St. Clair (86:36):
"I really wanna question me saying I loved it in the very beginning. I think it is a piece of shit."
Final Thoughts:
How Did This Get Made? delivers its signature blend of humor and critique, effectively highlighting the myriad flaws of "Expend4bles LIVE! w/ Jessica St. Clair." Whether you're a fan of action franchises or simply enjoy comedic dissections of cinema's missteps, this episode provides ample laughs and insights, reaffirming why the podcast remains a beloved staple for celebrating the worst films ever made.