Glitter LIVE! w/ Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, & Dan Levy (HDTGM Matinee)

Summary

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Episode Overview

Episode Title: Glitter LIVE! w/ Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, & Dan Levy (HDTGM Matinee)
Podcast: How Did This Get Made?
Date: September 30, 2025
Location: Largo @ the Coronet Theater, Los Angeles
Hosts/Guests: Paul Scheer, Casey Wilson, Adam Scott, Dan Levy
Theme:
A live roundtable breakdown of Mariah Carey's infamous 2001 film Glitter—one of cinema’s most notorious flops. With regular hosts June Diane Raphael and Jason Mantzoukas absent, Paul Scheer assembles an “all-star” HDTGM panel to dissect this pop-star vehicle-turned-cult classic, exploring its baffling choices, period confusion, production lore, and legendarily wooden performances.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setup and Panel Introduction (01:11–03:41)

• Paul introduces the night as a “special How Did This Get Made? All Stars” event due to the absence of June and Jason (01:11).
• Panel features Casey Wilson, Adam Scott, and Dan Levy.
• Paul confesses: “I own the DVD, but never worked up the courage to watch it.” (03:42, Paul)

2. The Mystery of Glitter's Availability and Reputation (03:41–04:34)

• Comments on the film’s notorious difficulty to find and poor box office ($22M budget, $5.2M worldwide gross).
• “A lot of people say the reason why this movie didn’t do well is because of September 11, because it was released the week after, but has nothing to do with that. It is a terrible movie nonetheless.” (04:11, Paul)

3. Is Glitter Supposed to Be Set in the 80s? (05:08–06:39)

• Incredulity over the 1983 setting: “It’s an 80s movie, but there’s nothing 80s about it.” (05:30, Adam)
• Spotting timeline errors (cordless phones, magazines that didn’t exist in ‘83).
• “They just paid no attention... I almost think they decided to say it was in the 80s to make it seem more interesting.” (06:03, Casey)

4. Club Scenes and Music Industry Nonsense (07:02–08:58)

• Ridiculousness of club scenes: “Things that don’t ever exist, like the 80s clubs... someone’s doing semaphore.” (07:02, Paul)
• Unrealistic depiction of DJs breaking artists in clubs and instant music stardom.
• The infamous “two-second demo tape” talent discovery: “He listens to it for three seconds.” – “Two.” – “I think it was two seconds.” (07:43–07:48, Casey/Adam/Casey)

5. Mariah’s Friends and Backup Dancers (09:00–11:48)

• The roles of Da Brat and “the other one” (Roxy/Louise), their undefined ambitions.
• “I wasn’t sure what their own thing was.” (10:19, Paul)

6. Mariah Carey’s Passive Protagonist and Acting (34:44–37:19)

• The panel debates if Mariah’s character wants to be a singer or shows any passion (34:45).
• “Mariah is an interesting character, obviously, because she doesn’t really have a passion.” (34:48, Paul)
• “Every expression looks like she’s about to laugh... Is the laugh coming, or is it sad?” (35:15, Dan)
• Panel acknowledges her acting improves in Precious.

7. Dice: DJ, Producer, Possible Abusive Boyfriend (22:10, 24:33, 30:31–31:07)

• Confusing backstory and motivations for Dice (Max Beesley).
• “He seems to be... keyboard.” (22:49, Dan)
• Panel jokes about his addiction to marimba and confusing accent: “Can we talk about Dice’s accent?” (62:37, Dan)
• Later, his problematic behavior and the dynamic with Mariah: “Dice is a horrible person.” (30:41, Dan; 30:42, Adam)

8. The Silly and “Magical Realism” Moments (44:21–46:27)

• Director’s commentary refers to a photo changing after a kiss as “magical realism,” provoking laughter and disbelief.
• Continuity mistakes abound, justified as “subtle, sort of magical realist moments.” (44:21, Director Commentary)

9. Movie Logic Gone Haywire

• Limo with no driver, record label deals made on a whim.
• The “USA Music Awards” fiasco, news broadcasts driving plot points (39:37–40:43).
• “The main boss can’t be here. I was like, why?” (26:46, Dan)

10. The Dice Death, Plot “Twists,” and Rushed Ending (28:34–30:02; 41:28–41:46; 66:12–67:13)

• The panel highlights how abruptly Dice is killed, and how the film fumbles the supposed epic love story conclusion.
• “Luckily he went to Madison Square Garden, dropped off a handwritten letter and one rose...” (58:32, Paul)

11. Inane Transitions and Editing (52:11–53:06)

• Firework transitions, time jumps, pointless quick-cuts, and sped-up shots lampooned by all.
• “There were several times... when the scene would speed up. It was just because these stupid, shitty, terrible shots they were getting were taking too long.” (52:33, Casey)

12. Audience Questions & Notable Gags (50:20–55:18)

• Fans in the audience pitch alternate song titles, character names, and point out further film oddities (the disappearing cat, the mysterious accent).
• "She is a beige woman. She's like khaki. She's a khaki woman.” (51:01, Audience)
• “If it weren’t for Moulin Rouge, this could be the greatest musical of all time. It’s not even technically a musical.” (69:51, Paul)

13. Second Opinions: Five-Star Amazon Review Round-Up (69:39–71:28)

• Paul reads outlandishly positive Amazon reviews for Glitter live, to peals of laughter.
• “If this movie came out 10 years ago, it would have won an Oscar.” (71:28, Paul reading Mr. E.S.M. moshaya’s review)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Mariah Carey stars in what can be described as the frittata version of 8 Mile.” (02:01, Paul)
• “It looks like it was made for, like, five shits.” (05:20, Casey)
• On the music business plot: “Record label deals made on a whim… like, ‘Hey, you’re here, you’re signed.’” (27:15, Paul)
• On Mariah’s acting: “Every expression looks like she’s about to laugh... Is the laugh coming or is it sad?” (35:18, Dan)
• On director’s commentary: “Magical realism. What? For those of you who did not know what was happening, magical realism.” (45:07, Paul)
• “There's nothing more uncool than watching someone on an electric keyboard compose music.” (23:20, Paul)
• “Dice called her friend a fat ass, and he called the other one something.” (30:44, Dan)
• “If it weren’t for Moulin Rouge, this could be the greatest musical of all time. It’s not even technically a musical.” (69:51, Paul)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:11 | Paul introduces “All Stars” panel and sets up the night | | 03:41 | Confession—Paul never watched his DVD copy before this show | | 05:08 | Panel discusses flimsy 1980s setting and period anachronisms | | 07:02 | Ridiculous club/music industry scenes dissected | | 09:00 | Discussion about Mariah’s backup dancers and their undefined goals | | 19:12 | Panel shows “Meet Cute” Dice/MC clip and pokes at their chemistry | | 28:34 | Panel reacts to Dice’s sudden murder and the movie’s haphazard plot | | 34:44 | Main discussion: Mariah’s performance and character passivity | | 44:21 | Panel plays director’s “magical realism” commentary—uproarious audience reaction | | 52:11 | Audience member points out transition weirdness and editing mishaps | | 58:30 | Panel muses on Dice's handwritten letter just before his death | | 69:39 | Five-star “second opinions” Amazon reviews, panel in stitches | | 72:13 | Closing panel recommendations—“fun to watch” as a bad movie |

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The Panel’s Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode is a riotous, affectionate, and occasionally bewildered roast of Glitter. The panel ping-pongs between incredulity and creative appreciation; riffing, acting out scenes, calling out the weirdest lines, and laughing over the film’s earnest failures. Audience participation further layers on the absurdity and camaraderie. There’s a testing-the-limits-of-reality flavor to the night, especially around “magical realism” explanations, and a genuine joy in communal movie-watching.

Should you watch Glitter?
A unanimous, gleeful yes—“super fun to watch.” The HDTGM panel insists it’s best consumed in good company and with the director’s commentary for peak confusion and laughter.

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Further Highlights & Running Bits

• Continuous mockery of the ambiguous 1980s setting and wardrobe.
• Multiple callbacks to the unexplained marimba fixation and the invented term “magical realism.”
• Good-natured jokes about the conspicuously absent cat and the vanishing Miyazaki-esque transitions.
• Audience’s creative song/character title suggestions (e.g., “Dice, Dice, Baby,” “Song in the Key of Yamaha,” “Going Braless” at 54:56).
• Good-natured theorizing about why anyone, including Mariah Carey, agreed to make this bewildering film.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

The HDTGM Glitter LIVE episode is a playful, deeply funny group therapy session for pop culture fans, where comedians bond over the bewildering, wrongheaded triumphs of a notorious flop. It’s loaded with bits, riffs, audience Q&A, and a running contest for the weirdest choice within a film bursting with them. The show captures a love of bad movies and the delight in dissecting every nonsensical detail—making you almost want to watch Glitter yourself. Almost.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Casey Wilson]

Hostiles. Repeat, we have hostiles. Mayday. Mayday.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God. There's hundreds of them.

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On October 10, we came here from the digital world. The war for our world begins.

[Paul Scheer]

What in God's name is that?

[Trailer Voice]

You and I, Max.

[Dan Levy]

This is the end to this world.

[Paul Scheer]

No, it's not.

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But I can help you. Tron Ares treated PG13 may be inappropriate for children under 13. Only in theaters October 10th. Get tickets now.

[Casey Wilson]

Your sausage when welcome with the egg didn't change.

[Paul Scheer]

Your receipt did. The sausage McMuffin with egg extra value.

[Casey Wilson]

Meal includes a hash brown and a small coffee for just $5. Only at McDonald's for a limited time.

[Paul Scheer]

Prices and participation may vary. This is a very special episode of how did this Get Made? Yes, it's a live show. Yes, this movie is amazing. But thirdly, we are missing both Jason and June for this episode. Collective. Aw. What? Fuck you, Sheer. We hate you guys.

Calm down.

Their reasons were really good.

Personal and health.

And they're both better and they're all good.

But we have assembled something that I.

Like to call the how did this.

Get Made All Stars to help.

Talk about glitter. So here we go. Let's start the show. Mariah Carey stars in what can be described as the frittata version of 8 mile. We saw glitter, so you know what that means.

[Casey Wilson]

Now it's time for how to discover.

[Paul Scheer]

We're gonna have a good time celebrating failure. Not just be a hater.

[Casey Wilson]

Cause you know you wonder how did this campaign. Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the.

[Adam Scott]

Question how did this get made?

[Paul Scheer]

Hello, people of Earth. And hello, Largo Los Angeles. We are very excited to be here in Los angeles at our LA home, Largo @ the Cornet Theater. We have a great crowd tonight. We have an amazing movie to talk about. And we have a very special episode of how did this Get Made? Because tonight it's how did this Get Made? All Stars. That's right. I am hosting tonight. I am Paul Scheer. But tonight I will be joined by Casey Wilson. Give it up for Casey Wilson, Mr. Adam Scott, and a special guest, Mr. Dan Levy. Give it up for Darren. All right, glitter, glitter. Here we go. Well, this movie is a movie that I've heard about for a long time.

[Casey Wilson]

So you hadn't seen this?

[Paul Scheer]

I had not seen. I own the dvd, but never worked up the courage to watch it.

[Adam Scott]

It's very hard to find this movie. Yes, you can't. It's only available on Amazon for 3.99, and it's an hour and 47 minutes long.

[Casey Wilson]

$4.99 for HD. Y' all.

[Paul Scheer]

Powerful people have done a lot to make sure that you don't see this.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes, Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of people say the reason why this movie didn't do well is because of September 11, because it was released the week after, but has nothing to do with that. It is a terrible movie nonetheless.

[Casey Wilson]

How convenient for them.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, I've literally read multiple reviews.

[Dan Levy]

Beautiful timing.

[Paul Scheer]

Mariah Carey numerous times says 911 was the downfall of the.

[Dan Levy]

No.

[Adam Scott]

It takes place in such a New York movie that, you know, the last thing you do want to see after 911 is Mariah Carey representing your city.

[Paul Scheer]

I will say that someone pointed out to me that even though it takes place in New York, there are many Toronto landmarks throughout the movie.

[Dan Levy]

Very Canadian.

[Paul Scheer]

That they shot it in Toronto. You would think they would have the budget to shoot this in New York.

[Dan Levy]

They had $22 million.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

What about masses?

[Paul Scheer]

We're going to 22 million, and it made a whopping 2.5 opening weekend, and then worldwide 5.2.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow. It looks like it was made for, like, five shits.

[Dan Levy]

And you had the HD version.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

Because it's an 80s movie, but there's nothing 80s about it.

[Casey Wilson]

Nothing at all. Nothing.

[Paul Scheer]

Nothing. That was the. And they don't even clearly delineate that it is the 80s. They don't put, like, a graphic up to say, like, 1980.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, that one guy was in a 1983.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, does it? Okay, I didn't have the HD version.

[Casey Wilson]

But it's very blurry.

[Paul Scheer]

But.

[Dan Levy]

And that one guy was in the silk shirt with the CDs all over it.

[Adam Scott]

That's true.

[Paul Scheer]

Right?

[Dan Levy]

That was pretty clear.

[Adam Scott]

But it's also Mariah Carey. So you're watching it, you're like, oh, this is a 90s movie. It has to be it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. It doesn't feel.

[Casey Wilson]

It doesn't feel like there's nothing. 8. There's. They just paid no attention. Like, I almost think they decided to say it was in the 80s to make it seem more interesting because, like.

[Dan Levy]

Afterwards, they decided this needs to be a period piece.

[Paul Scheer]

The biggest clue that's in the 80s is they just play that rap song. It's like, don't push me. Cause I'm on the. Like, that's the only. That's the only thing I knew.

[Casey Wilson]

People have cordless telephones. 1983, people weren't like. That wasn't happening.

[Paul Scheer]

No. As a matter of fact, he's on the COVID of Spin, and Spin didn't even come out until 1985. So.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes. See?

[Adam Scott]

But there is the character named Chilly D, which is a pretty 80s name.

[Paul Scheer]

It is. That's a pretty good name. This movie has all the stuff that I love, which is, like, things that don't ever exist. Like the 80s clubs in this movie. Like, someone's doing semaphore. Like, in the club, another guy has, like a Lion King shield.

[Casey Wilson]

That's right.

[Paul Scheer]

That never happened.

[Casey Wilson]

Right. And there's this club that is a dance club packed with thousands of people. There's a DJ who's also a world famous record producer, and he has the power to break artists at a dance club.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, he gets the. Can we just start talking about it?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Please. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Let's get into it.

[Casey Wilson]

He's DJing, like, the full thing with the headphones.

[Dan Levy]

When the tape comes up to him.

[Casey Wilson]

Someone gives him the tape.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

He. Thank you, Casey.

[Dan Levy]

Don't drop it. Don't drop it.

[Casey Wilson]

He listens to it for three seconds.

[Paul Scheer]

Two.

[Adam Scott]

I think it was two seconds.

[Casey Wilson]

And says, this is amazing. Who's this? And it's Spice.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Casey Wilson]

I mean, Silk.

[Adam Scott]

It's Silk.

[Casey Wilson]

Padma Lakshmi's character. Right.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, Padma Lakshmi did not know she was an actress until this movie.

[Dan Levy]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

And really want a spin off of her character. And Terrence Howard, I want to see their lives together.

[Adam Scott]

By the way, how upset is Terrence Howard that he's in this movie? This must fucking kill him.

[Casey Wilson]

But he's, like, super good in it.

[Dan Levy]

He is giving it his all. He really is giving it everything. He has.

[Adam Scott]

He's trying way too hard, this movie.

[Casey Wilson]

You know what, you guys? I think Top Chef is her spin off. I think that's the character.

[Paul Scheer]

Silk didn't make it in that business and she moved over.

[Casey Wilson]

No, but he gets the tape, puts it in, listens to it for two seconds, and then says, oh, this is great. And then. Right then he Introduces Silk and the girls. And the camera pans over and they start performing for the club.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, they're ready to go.

[Adam Scott]

They're ready to go.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, it makes no fucking sense.

[Dan Levy]

He just had to listen to them for a second before he saw them.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, right. And by the way, it wasn't like a dance song. It was kind of like a ballady song. Right. It wasn't like a song that you be like, let's put this on in the club, and people are gonna go crazy.

[Adam Scott]

No, thank God Silk was there, you know? Cause imagine if he was like, this is great. Fuck, they're not here.

[Casey Wilson]

Exactly.

[Paul Scheer]

What are we gonna do? Well, it just goes back to the whole movie is suspect because Terrence Howard originally finds Mariah Carey and her two girls. The backup. The brat.

[Adam Scott]

The brat.

[Dan Levy]

Tap out.

[Paul Scheer]

The brat. They're just dancing.

[Dan Levy]

Like, they're just playing Louise.

[Paul Scheer]

And the other one.

[Adam Scott]

Playing the other one.

[Paul Scheer]

Roxy and Louise.

[Casey Wilson]

Wait, now who is Roxy? Who.

[Paul Scheer]

Who is Roxy Is the other one. Okay. The brat. The other. The one that is not the brat.

[Dan Levy]

But both spirited, spirited performances.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I have some questions about them, too, but I want.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, I think we all do.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, they were really giving it their all.

[Dan Levy]

And I felt like I should have was in a time machine, that I would have been cast as the other one. And I thought she gave a lot to that. I thought they both gave their heart and soul.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, I felt like they were my performances.

[Paul Scheer]

And Guildenstern of this Hamlet, it's like comic relief. But it was so odd because it looked like Terrence Howard was just going to watch three girls dance at a club, and he's like, hey, I want you guys to be backup dancers. Like, no, no, no. We're not into that. We're doing our own thing. But I wasn't quite sure what their own thing was.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I have Terrence Howard and Padma. Ask them to be backup. But, like, from what. Why would he ask them to do that? From what he saw.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that was my question. It's like they're just. They're just dancing. And I didn't even understand what club would give that, like, an. Like an outlet. Like, you guys want to come and dance on stage?

[Casey Wilson]

Because they were backstage, like, they have dressing rooms, but all they were doing was dancing with thousands of people.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Scott]

But the camera was focused on Mariah. The first time you saw her in that leopard thing, you know, that must have been maybe from his point of view.

[Paul Scheer]

And. And they. But. But she literally.

[Adam Scott]

His pov.

[Paul Scheer]

But she said Mariah's like, we don't want to be a backup because we're doing our own thing. But we never established what that was at all because it didn't seem to me like Mariah wanted to become a.

[Casey Wilson]

Singer ever in the whole movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Even at a.

[Dan Levy]

As a child, she did not want to go up on stage.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

She was emotionally scarred. They were making her.

[Adam Scott]

Well, her house almost got burnt down by her dumb mom.

[Paul Scheer]

I wanted that.

[Dan Levy]

That's my favorite scene. When the mom said this, it was just so. Like, every other scene took about five hours. That team. The mom was like, what?

[Paul Scheer]

I know.

[Casey Wilson]

Totally.

[Adam Scott]

But the credits keep on going. Do you notice that?

[Casey Wilson]

Forever.

[Adam Scott]

The credits are going like an hour 10 into the movie. It's like, director of photography. I'm like, what? Why is this happening still?

[Paul Scheer]

I wanted. No one should take credit for this movie. I wanted that mom to really be on fire. Like, I, like. I wanted her to run into, like, mirage. You're like, ah, just like, in flames. Burned.

[Dan Levy]

Her face just burned. Something more.

[Paul Scheer]

But. And I guess maybe this is me paying a little bit of not that much attention to the top. They didn't really establish her as being, like, an addict, or was she an addict?

[Dan Levy]

She was still a great singer.

[Paul Scheer]

She was a smoker, right?

[Casey Wilson]

She was just sleeping.

[Dan Levy]

She had a. Yeah. Yes. She had smoking and a sleeping problem.

[Adam Scott]

She was addicted to cigarettes. It's a really. You know, it's very addictive.

[Casey Wilson]

Don't smoke.

[Adam Scott]

Don't smoke.

[Paul Scheer]

We'll take away your kids if you smoke.

[Dan Levy]

It's like she's following her dreams. I didn't see her try to get another job anywhere else. I'm like, selfish. Mom was just like, I gotta sing, but I can't take care of you. It was strange.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, the house burnt down. And then she's like, bye.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

And then when she gets to the orphanage, I mean, those kids were. I feel like they acted as well as the brat. The other one.

[Dan Levy]

That was Da brat. And Louis.

[Paul Scheer]

Not. They weren't acting. That was their characters.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

It's like Richard Linklater. They shot the first star and then came back.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah. They're still. They're shooting an installment now.

[Adam Scott]

They're still shooting the movie right now. But when they came over to her, and I think it was.

[Dan Levy]

They were very friendly.

[Adam Scott]

They were very friendly right away. But the first question was, are you Puerto Rican? And.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

And she said, no, I'm mixed. And they said, okay, I guess I like you then.

[Casey Wilson]

End of conversation.

[Adam Scott]

We're going to be a trio.

[Paul Scheer]

We got this going on. We have a plan to do something that is undefined. And I will never say we're going.

[Casey Wilson]

To be endlessly loyal to each other for no reason. And pertaining to what we don't know. Let's get busy doing that.

[Dan Levy]

And just a sidebar. The scene with Devrat and the other one, when they were trying on clothes and watching the news report, that was alternately like, she's watching the news. And then it's very comic turns with the other one coming out so quickly in different outfits. Does anyone.

[Paul Scheer]

I remember. Yes, I remember.

[Dan Levy]

Thank you.

[Casey Wilson]

When was that?

[Dan Levy]

You know, hard to say. It was just somewhere in the middle.

[Paul Scheer]

It's kind of middle right when they're watching.

[Dan Levy]

But it seems like a long improv between the two of them that the director was like, this is gold.

[Paul Scheer]

Keep going.

[Casey Wilson]

That's something that Casey brought up backstage that I think is true, that it seemed like there was a lot of loose improvy. Well, the brat brings to the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

The brat is someone who's going to improvise.

[Casey Wilson]

Look, you hired debrat.

[Paul Scheer]

You're going to get it.

[Dan Levy]

Well, you're getting.

[Adam Scott]

And I. And I looked up. I looked up the guy who played Dice. Yeah, I forget his name.

[Casey Wilson]

Max.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, but he is a known improviser.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Adam Scott]

No, no, he's not.

[Paul Scheer]

He's definitely. I thought for. I thought for a quarter of the movie that Dice was just Jim Brewer.

[Adam Scott]

Just waiting for him to do the Goat man in the middle of the club.

[Casey Wilson]

Not to brag, but I was in a movie with Dice with Max Beasley.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, really?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Did you guys talk about glitter?

[Casey Wilson]

Not. Not to brag. Maybe you've. No, no. Maybe you've heard of it.

[Adam Scott]

Talk about Dice.

[Paul Scheer]

What was it? What was it?

[Casey Wilson]

Movie called Torque. Oh, to. Sorry. Sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, look, you don't have to brag about it, you know.

[Casey Wilson]

No, I'm not. I'm not bragging about it. I'm just looking at my papers.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm looking at my notes.

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[Adam Scott]

But to talk about Dice. Are we gonna see a clip of Dice right now?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna show the. What. What is People often call like, called like the meet cute, I guess. Like, this is like when. When Dice and Mariah Carey was rocking a great bicycle. Like Lance Armstrong hat.

[Casey Wilson]

Very weird.

[Adam Scott]

Not 80s, not 80s, 90s, but not anything.

[Paul Scheer]

I kind of felt like they told Mariah Carey this movie takes place in the 80s, and she's like, oh, I won't dress badly. I'll dress like. I'll wear what I wear normally.

[Casey Wilson]

Right?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, all right, sure. Someone also mentioned this, and I didn't notice this, but that she has, like, a silver streak on her.

[Casey Wilson]

On her shoulder.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

At one point. What the fuck is that all about?

[Paul Scheer]

According to all the research I was able to find, no one knows. There is really, like, no one has been able to put it together. The closest that we got was because Mariah wanted a silver streak on her. Like, that was it.

[Casey Wilson]

But at one point, it's here, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

Is that where it is in the whole movie? It moves. It moves.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that.

[Adam Scott]

Is that the glitter?

[Paul Scheer]

That's glitter.

[Adam Scott]

That's the glitter.

[Paul Scheer]

What glitter?

[Dan Levy]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God. We solved the riddle. Wait, so she's made of glitter? She is personified.

[Casey Wilson]

Is that where her robot skin has been worn off?

[Paul Scheer]

I want to see Terminator 4 with Mariah Carey from Glitter.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And Arnold Schwarzenegger. All right, so here's a scene this week. I mean, and again, you get the taste of the chemistry that's going on between these two people. The love story for the ages. Here we go.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't suit girls up.

[Paul Scheer]

Really? Really.

[Dan Levy]

Look, I know you're a fly DJ and everything, really, and I should be honored that you want to work with me. But, I mean, I'm just not into the games.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm not playing games.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm serious. So there you go. That's kind of. That's, you know, we don't know if they're going to get together, but they do.

[Casey Wilson]

And that was immediately after he had been saying the same thing to Padma Lakshmi. And then he discovers that Mariah Carey was the one doing the singing.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. Because they. Because they were basically like Terrence Howard kind of shit on her.

[Dan Levy]

She did, like, a Storm off riff.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. But up until that point.

[Dan Levy]

Wait a minute.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, up until that point, we had no idea she was angry or frustrated with her.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Casey Wilson]

With anything. She was fine.

[Dan Levy]

Fine.

[Adam Scott]

She was fine with it. She was just living her life.

[Paul Scheer]

She was fine being like.

[Dan Levy]

Because she wasn't giving her best stuff.

[Adam Scott]

She was saving it for Dice.

[Paul Scheer]

Who?

[Adam Scott]

His name is Dice. In the movie, he also goes by Dice Man. I mean, how mad was Andrew Dice Clay when he sees this? That's his whole thing.

[Paul Scheer]

The Dice man is. I just still don't understand how, like, I guess now, like, who's a big dj, like Tiesto or like. Like Skrillex? Like, yeah, like, would you.

[Adam Scott]

That guy, He's a dj.

[Casey Wilson]

Skrillex.

[Adam Scott]

Did I say wrong?

[Paul Scheer]

Breaking like R and B performers, but.

[Casey Wilson]

Like a club owner, apparently. Like the manager of the club. The DJ of the club. Also, like, a producer, a big record producer and an artist manager who seems.

[Paul Scheer]

To have no other clients or at all, for that matter. Like, to me, the more believable story would be like, I've always wanted to produce. Trust me, and we'll get there. Instead of, like, setting him up, as I know you're the hottest producer in the world. He's not.

[Casey Wilson]

No, not at all.

[Dan Levy]

He seems to be keyboard.

[Adam Scott]

He has nothing. He has nothing. Except for that black tank top that he wears so much.

[Casey Wilson]

It's true about the keyboard, because his.

[Dan Levy]

He has a beautiful scene.

[Casey Wilson]

He has an apartment filled with musical instruments. And then she gets him a shitty keyboard. It's.

[Dan Levy]

It's like that shitty.

[Casey Wilson]

It's not very big at all. He's like, oh, my God, you got me this.

[Paul Scheer]

And there is nothing more uncool than watching someone on an electric keyboard compose music.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Dan Levy]

He's like, putting the bass. The beat on.

[Paul Scheer]

He's like, oh, my favorite thing about him, though, is that he loves the marimba.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Which is. You know. And Mariah Carey, when she first sees the marimba, is like, what is this, like some kindergarten thing? He's like, no, it's my favorite instrument.

[Casey Wilson]

And that's where she gets all hot for him. That's the moment.

[Adam Scott]

That's the turning point.

[Casey Wilson]

It's him playing this thing.

[Dan Levy]

The whole movie is different. People watching other people sing or perform the marimba and just being, like. With no emotion or expression, just like, Mm. And then that person in the next scene, watching that same person Just like every. Everyone's watching everyone and just loving their music making.

[Paul Scheer]

The one thing I did like that they kept with that marimba is like, later on in the movie, not to jump ahead, but they, you know, obviously they have a falling out. Mariah and Dice and like, you know, yeah, it's happening, guys. And he's composing his own music, but he's playing the marimba. Like, he's. He's making tracks with a marimba being the lead instrument. He's like. And showing the drummer how he's up. Like, no, you're not doing.

[Dan Levy]

What was the purpose of that marimba?

[Casey Wilson]

So weird.

[Adam Scott]

Well, I really enjoyed their first date.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

When she was like, is this a date? What's going on? And then.

[Dan Levy]

So suspicious. She thought he was gonna kill her.

[Paul Scheer]

But yet she was also really excited about the date. Looking out the window, she's like, oh, a limo's here. Oh, it's a date. She's like, it's not a date, but she dressed for a date.

[Adam Scott]

And she's like, what's with these snails?

[Casey Wilson]

But she and her friends are all aflutter about this date. But they. The previous, like, 10 minutes of the movie was a montage of them spending all of their time together.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. It did not seem like this was out of the norm at all.

[Casey Wilson]

No. They're just gonna go get dinner. Like, they're always.

[Dan Levy]

They were holding hands on the street before that.

[Paul Scheer]

That might have been like a reshoot.

[Adam Scott]

Situation, you know, where they had the rose thing at the end not to jump the massive square garden. And then they're like, oh, fuck, we got to set up that rose.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

Let's all go back to Toronto.

[Casey Wilson]

But they accidentally dropped that scene in 20 minutes after they were supposed to. You know what?

[Dan Levy]

We're locked.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. I also will say that. I don't know. This little things bug me. But it looked like that limo did not have a driver when it pulled up. It looked like he drove that limo to the date. Like, yes, CMZ gave me this limo, but no driver. Get in the back.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, that was one thing. When. When he's. When he's talking about the record companies are going to. That are going to be at the dance club to discover new artists. He says emi, Warner Brothers, and CMZ are all going to be there. It's like, oh, I wonder which one the movie's going to end up using.

[Paul Scheer]

They do a great. Like, a bunch of great stuff like that. Like when she performs on Late Night Live, which is Saturday Night Live, they do A lot of, like, switching that, but. Oh, I also like when they go meet with cmz. Like, they come in, they go, oh, we're so glad you're here. You're signed. Like, well, right? Yeah. You weren't coming in for the signing meeting because the champagne and the floor.

[Dan Levy]

And they're like, the main boss can't be here. I was like, why?

[Adam Scott]

She's kind of a big deal. Everyone should come meet her. Chili B is trying to sign her at the club.

[Casey Wilson]

But the night before that meeting, they see the label guys and the guys are like, why don't you come in tomorrow and we'll sit down and chat? They're like, okay. Then they go in and they're all drinking champagne and celebrating. But they never have that meeting where they decide that this is what. Right.

[Paul Scheer]

It almost seems like they walked in and if they would have continued to take the rest of the meetings the rest of the day, they may have been signed to a different label. They just like, first come, first serve. Like, hey, you're here, you're signed. What? We got you first. You would think that Mariah Carey at one point would just, like, pipe up and go, actually, no. This is not how this business works. I know, because I'm a huge, gigantic star in this world. Like, I have a little life experience.

[Adam Scott]

She was also married to a record, you know, Tommy Mottola, who? So she definitely was like, oh, all of this is wrong, by the way.

[Paul Scheer]

But now what?

[Adam Scott]

I'm Mariah Carey.

[Paul Scheer]

Was this guy supposed to be Tommy Mottola? I think so, because they were married. Tommy Mottola and her were married in 93, deteriorating by 95, and divorced in 98. And Mariah Carey called their house Sing Sing because he would never let her leave and called their marriage a private hell.

[Casey Wilson]

Awesome.

[Adam Scott]

I believe it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. But. But this guy was pretty abusive to her. But also, she kind of always liked him.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. And at the end, she's totally devastated when he's murdered for weird reasons.

[Paul Scheer]

Can we.

[Adam Scott]

Can we talk about his murder or not?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, why not? We could jump all the way around.

[Adam Scott]

Because that really, when it got good for me was when he was shot in the shoulder.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

And then later they say he was shot in the chest.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. He saw him get shot in the shoulder.

[Adam Scott]

He also clearly, like, went right into his shoulder, which he could have shot him in.

[Casey Wilson]

Don't touch, Casey.

[Adam Scott]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. Yes, we're friends.

[Adam Scott]

But. But then, you know, he could have got. But in the shoulder. The shoulder. That means he probably, really probably has bled to death on the street.

[Paul Scheer]

That or unless he is cut out too early, it was a real violent ending.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. Shot him five times, curbed him, and then ran back.

[Paul Scheer]

If you haven't seen the movie, basically what is going on is Terrence Howard sells Mariah Carey for $100,000, and it seems like she's making that money in.

[Dan Levy]

Spades as just like, I'm not paying it.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Dice is not gonna.

[Dan Levy]

I'm not worried about it at all.

[Adam Scott]

When Terrence Howard says it's $100,000, dice is like, all right. But, like, we're supposed to get that. He can't afford it. But he's a dj, he's very popular, and he runs a record label. And he also.

[Paul Scheer]

I thought he actually paid him off. I didn't think, like, when he said $100,000, like, oh, yeah, he paid him off.

[Dan Levy]

He seemed fine with it at first.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

He was like. And then I was like, okay.

[Dan Levy]

And then it. This is a problem.

[Paul Scheer]

And I didn't get that scene. When Dice kind of confronts Terrence Howard, he's like, is there food in your fridge?

[Casey Wilson]

He's like, yeah, I didn't understand that that was.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And is he saying, like, you don't need $100,000?

[Dan Levy]

Yes. And then Terrence Howard seemed to be like, good point.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes. No, he was. He was like, good point. But still, I would appreciate the money you owe me.

[Dan Levy]

And then the scene when Terrence Howard came and came behind Mariah Carey. She was in the house for, like, 40 minutes before she noticed that he was standing behind her. She was, like, talking for so long to Dice. The other room. Like, baby, we're gonna do this, and we're gonna. But you turn around, like, 40 minutes after you've been standing there.

[Paul Scheer]

Terrance is a creeper, man. He just hangs out.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And then Dice beats the shit out of Terrence Howard.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

And he's in the wrong.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, Dice is wrong. Like, yes. This movie actually proves to me as it goes on, like, oh, I'm glad she's not with Dice. Dice is not the right girl.

[Dan Levy]

Dice is a horrible person.

[Adam Scott]

Dice is a horrible person. He could.

[Dan Levy]

He called her friend a fat ass, and he called the other one something.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, let me show that scene. This is a. So, you know, obviously, Dice is on the way out, and just one point to make here is, like, when Dice is on the way out, they also kick out Da Brat and Roxy.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

They get them out too. And there we continue to check in with her two friends, but they don't seem to have any career ambition. Like, where are they? What are they doing? Are they just still dancing?

[Casey Wilson]

And when they kick them out when they're shooting the music video, they're like, oh, we gotta get rid of them. Then they cut to the two friends, and one of the two friends, Da Brat's like, fuck this. And she walks out right before they go and fire. Like, why would you choose a shot of her walking off set?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Before the big reveal of we're making you fire your best friend.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

And that music video scene, by the way.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, man, it's very long.

[Paul Scheer]

Everything about this movie is very long.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

The director is quoted as saying that was the funniest scene in the movie. And that he loved that guy. He loved. He just loved that actor. It's like a scene like. It's like Juan Pablo from the Bachelor is directing a music video, and he makes them replace the hot girls with, like, naked men. And he's German.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And it's weird.

[Casey Wilson]

And it's not any more ridiculous than it was before. It's just slightly different.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And those girls were not bad, but, yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, it's his vision. It's his vision. It's like, again, this is not how this industry works. A director would have, like, a storyboard. He wouldn't be like, oh, wait, she brought her own backup dancers. Oh, shit. I got a whole different plan for this music video. Like, it doesn't just change instantly. Like, it's. You just can't do that on the fly. But it seemed like, oh, no, no. We changed the whole music video in this. Like, in five minutes. We got him out. Anyway, Dice is upset, and they're like.

[Casey Wilson]

This guy's a really hot director. You have to do it.

[Paul Scheer]

Gotta listen to this.

[Dan Levy]

German director has come on the scene.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. Eric Benet is on the scene. And Dice isn't jealous. And this is where he lashes out against our two friends. Do you think anyone asks to write.

[Casey Wilson]

A song with you if you, you know, properly dressed?

[Dan Levy]

What is that supposed to mean?

[Casey Wilson]

What it means is, look at everything here.

[Paul Scheer]

Everything is hanging out. Where do you get this from anyway?

[Dan Levy]

I got this from you.

[Paul Scheer]

Why don't you just leave her alone, okay? Hey, Mouth, did I ask you? You just mad cause you don't produce her no more.

[Dan Levy]

Get over it, Louise. Don't say that.

[Paul Scheer]

That.

[Casey Wilson]

Hey, Louise, you know what I produced? Just something a little more than a body pop. Fat ass, Dice.

[Paul Scheer]

Fat ass?

[Dan Levy]

Who you calling fat ass?

[Casey Wilson]

You got plenty of ass.

[Dan Levy]

You do not talk to her like that.

[Casey Wilson]

I told you once.

[Paul Scheer]

Don't mouth off again.

[Casey Wilson]

Roachbag.

[Dan Levy]

You dice. Shut up. Okay, you know what?

[Casey Wilson]

Let's just get out of here.

[Paul Scheer]

Calm down, you guys.

[Dan Levy]

Excuse me, could you pull over? Look, he doesn't know what he's saying.

[Paul Scheer]

He's drunk.

[Dan Levy]

Okay, you're drunk. Apologize.

[Paul Scheer]

What's the matter with you?

[Dan Levy]

I'm drunk.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, pull over.

[Dan Levy]

And also, no limo driver in that scene.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, no limo driver.

[Adam Scott]

They couldn't afford anyone to say, okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Did he call her a roach bag? Yeah, that's a real. Like a term you might, like, call a bad apartment, but a human being means that, like, roaches live up there.

[Adam Scott]

Again, that wasn't an 80s outfit. Like, I think that was, like, pure, like, 1991. 1993. Cross colors.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. I don't know if the brat was.

[Adam Scott]

Wearing the clothes that the brat wore on tour with Crisscross.

[Paul Scheer]

Everybody brought their own wardrobe.

[Casey Wilson]

I have written down here. Does she want to be a singer? Is she interested in the music business?

[Dan Levy]

Well, also, I would like to segue just into Mariah herself.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, sure.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, she thoughts, comments, concerns.

[Paul Scheer]

Mariah is an interesting character in this, obviously, because she doesn't really have a passion.

[Adam Scott]

Wait, in real life or.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, no, in the movie. Sorry. I should say Billy Franks. The character Billy Franks. Who is Mariah? Yeah, she's an odd character. Very passive character.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. You can't tell if she's coming or going. Annoyed, thrilled.

[Paul Scheer]

In love.

[Dan Levy]

Every expression looks like she's about to laugh. She's like.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

It'S like, is the laugh coming or is it sad?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's it. That. That's also her cry face. Because her cry face is like, just like. It's like it's never gonna get there.

[Dan Levy]

I will admit in the scene where she was asking about her mom when she suddenly decided to go try to find her mom.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

I felt for her.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Dan Levy]

She handled that scene pretty well when she put the glasses on. And I know nobody wants to hear it, but I. I don't know if I'm overly emotional about my period, but I didn't mind that scene.

[Casey Wilson]

I want to hear it.

[Dan Levy]

I just. That I thought that was a nice. Well, it really turned the crowd off.

[Adam Scott]

It's Mariah Carey, you know, starring in this movie. So, you know, she had, like, an acting coach, like, on set who was just like, you know, by the side, just being like, you are fucking killing this. Yeah, you are doing this. And Da Brat's looking at her like, yeah, we're fucking doing this. Mariah.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Okay, but let me ask. Did anyone see Mariah in Precious?

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, she was pretty.

[Paul Scheer]

Pretty.

[Adam Scott]

Wait, you saw Glitter?

[Paul Scheer]

I got confused for a second. Yes, I did see.

[Dan Levy]

And they're so, so similar.

[Paul Scheer]

I saw it. I loved it. It was great.

[Adam Scott]

Did you see her in the Butler?

[Casey Wilson]

Was she in the Butler?

[Paul Scheer]

I did not see the Butler. I'm sorry.

[Dan Levy]

She was in the Butler, wasn't she?

[Adam Scott]

No, she was. Yeah. I know.

[Paul Scheer]

How many people saw the Butler.

[Casey Wilson]

One person.

[Dan Levy]

I want to see the Butler.

[Adam Scott]

If everyone saw the Butler and I said that hilarious applause break, but everyone's like, I don't think I saw that.

[Casey Wilson]

I was trying to pinpoint, like, I was trying to figure out, like, maybe the director was like, let's just keep it loose. Look, forget about the words. Let's just play. And so she's like, okay, let's play. But she just kind of locked into this weird thing.

[Paul Scheer]

It is an odd choice because I feel like even her stage Persona, like her stage Persona as a singer is similar to her stage Persona in this as an actor, which is very, like, sultry. Sultry doesn't translate as a thing, I don't think.

[Casey Wilson]

And is her stage Persona in the movie different than her stage? Because I don't. I was trying to think of, like, the. As a performer in, like, real life. Mariah Carey. She is a. A good performer, right? Like, I would imagine she's a good performer.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, but she doesn't have a tough crowd.

[Adam Scott]

Geez.

[Dan Levy]

Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

No.

[Adam Scott]

Mariah Carey, she could stand on a stage and sing and everyone's like, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

But she's not like, run around and do like.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. She's Mariah Carey.

[Dan Levy]

I don't know why I'm taking up Mariah's cat.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Casey Wilson]

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[Paul Scheer]

Prices and participation may vary. I do want to also talk about, like, the only, like, real difference is, like, her hair straightens as she gets more famous. That's a big thing. And she's just constantly in different gowns. And she's doing a lot of wardrobe, a lot of wardrobe changes in this. She dresses like MC Scat Cat in the beginning of the movie and then becomes, like, a very graceful.

[Casey Wilson]

It's like MC Scat Cat and Lance Armstrong mixed together.

[Paul Scheer]

Now Dice makes the very cool choice of. At the. Whatever it is. The USA Music Awards.

[Adam Scott]

The USA Music Awards.

[Paul Scheer]

That. That's the best part. She's in the limo, and they're like, hey, we just got a call. You have to perform at the USA Music Awards.

[Dan Levy]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

We're. We're turning the limo around right now. Yeah. And they turn it around. She shows up like, oh, wait, get on stage. Sing your song.

[Dan Levy]

And that's when she's like, can someone call Dice? She could never get called Dice herself. She's always like, can someone call Dice?

[Adam Scott]

There needs to be some explanation, like, why. Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Happens.

[Adam Scott]

That never happens. MC Hammer was murdered, right?

[Paul Scheer]

He's like, get there. Go perform. She performed like, that all happened within, like, three hours. But Dice did, like, and, like, oh, you think, like, oh, they're blowing off Dice. Like, Dice can't make it. Dice can't make it. But then he was there at the American Music Awards in his open black T shirt, where apparently Lionel Richie has swept the awards. Because everything was like, Lionel Richie. Like, it's like the whole movie is told through, like, bad news reporter. But it's like, today, Lionel Richie won a bunch of awards here. And then when they.

[Dan Levy]

Every major plot point is just a.

[Paul Scheer]

Newscast, the newscast delivers all the important information.

[Adam Scott]

Well, speaking of, you know, Mariah's acting, the last newscaster reporting on Dice's murder. That was really just her going.

[Dan Levy]

Not as great.

[Adam Scott]

And then a bunch of people in big suits going, we're really sorry.

[Casey Wilson]

And also, the room they're in backstage at Madison Square Gardens is literally. It looks like a room at an. Like a.

[Adam Scott]

A Hyatt.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, like a Hyatt with kind of an Asian flare.

[Paul Scheer]

I was Gonna say it looked like a low budget James Bond villain, Alex. And by the way. All right, so you see that Dice get shot, and then she's like, where is Billy Franks? Where is she? She's like. It seems like the concept, it's like, yeah.

[Dan Levy]

Why was Billy late if she didn't know that he was shot?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. You don't know why she's late. Like, so she's like, everyone's bad at their job because, like, she shows up, like, five minutes late to her own concert.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Not knowing that Billy Frank. Not knowing that Dice was shot.

[Casey Wilson]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

And just happens to see the news report and then does the show. Yeah, I was happy with that.

[Adam Scott]

And the fact that the New York City Toronto news reports on that murder immediately is impressive.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

Someone's murdered. Get the camera crew.

[Casey Wilson]

But it's also. There's the time she goes to Dice's apartment right before that big show, and he's not there. She just wants to, like, tinker on the ivory. Feel him in the ivories.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Because she realizes that even though he's abusive and mean, she loves him.

[Dan Levy]

She loves piano or the. Was she at the Yamaha?

[Paul Scheer]

She was at that real piano.

[Dan Levy]

And I was like, but why not at the Yamaha?

[Casey Wilson]

She gave it to him.

[Paul Scheer]

Why give him a Yamaha if he had a real piano?

[Casey Wilson]

And why was he so fucking psyched about the Yamaha?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, I'm sure, like, the. The props guy, I can't imagine that the crew was, you know, together on this movie. I'm sure they got to that scene. They're like, oh, where's a Yamaha? And he's like, oh, I brought it to this other fucking movie. Just have her play the piano. They're like, all right, action.

[Paul Scheer]

They're shooting down the block, and they needed it for a scene.

[Casey Wilson]

I really did look for the Yamaha. And that's. I did not see it in that scene. It just was nowhere to be found.

[Paul Scheer]

Probably destroyed it after they broke up. Like, ah, I hate this Yamaha. Casey, I think you're gonna get to the point that you're talking about maybe the continuity thing, right?

[Dan Levy]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, please bring it up. And then I want to show you something.

[Dan Levy]

Well, just some continuity. Many continuity issues throughout. It seemed. Some lipstick. When she kisses the music note, it just seems very off to me. But maybe I'm.

[Casey Wilson]

When he finds it later, it looks completely different.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, well, the thing I was noticing was that when she first comes there, she sees a picture of them, and it's them. Like, it's like him. Like, hey. And she's Like, I love you in.

[Casey Wilson]

Front of a brick wall.

[Paul Scheer]

In front of a brick wall.

[Casey Wilson]

They were at the improv.

[Paul Scheer]

And then. And then. Then as she writes her note, they fade back down to that picture and it's a completely different.

[Casey Wilson]

It's them kissing.

[Paul Scheer]

It's them kissing. So a lot of people go, oh, that is a continuity problem. Thankfully, there's a director's commentary track.

[Casey Wilson]

And did you watch it with the commentary?

[Paul Scheer]

I have clips of the commentary.

[Casey Wilson]

God damn it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. So, and the commentary track. This is one of the best commentary. If you have the means, buy the DVD for 98 cents on Amazon and enjoy this commentary, because it's full of chunks and little things like this. So here we go.

[Trailer Voice]

And it's got this wonderful magic realist moment where she kisses a photo. And it's not the same photo that we saw when she picked it up. After. After she kisses the piece of music you look at, we zoom in on the lipstick, her heart, the billy. And if you look at the picture, the picture is now. They're now kissing. This is one of those very subtle, sort of magical realist moments in the picture.

[Paul Scheer]

Magical realism. What? For those of you who did not know what was happening, Magical realism.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow. Wow.

[Dan Levy]

But they, like, that made me feel really sad.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like he was making that up as he went along.

[Adam Scott]

I think this was the first time he saw the movie.

[Dan Levy]

He's like, oh, God, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

What the did I do?

[Casey Wilson]

There was something else that happened right there that I was going to point out, and it's right at the end.

[Paul Scheer]

I think this is maybe the thing. Please. Because I. I think I have an issue with this.

[Casey Wilson]

He's walking out and he's walk. Walking in, and it's supposed to be one of those near misses. Like, oh, shit.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

But it's literally. They would have seen each other. They would have just been like, oh, hey, hey, Dice.

[Paul Scheer]

Now here's my issue with it, and I'll turn the volume on it. Like. But the idea is she's walking. The mattress is breaking them up, right?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, that's.

[Paul Scheer]

So my thought is, when the mattress clears frame, there should be. Dice. He shouldn't be coming in from the side of frame. If you're a director, you'd be like, oh, she doesn't see him because he's over here. But no, he's just over there.

[Casey Wilson]

He's going the same direction as mattress.

[Paul Scheer]

The same mattress direction.

[Dan Levy]

Magical realism. Yeah, right there.

[Adam Scott]

She definitely would have, like, seen him, like, as she was turning around, being like, oh, Dice.

[Casey Wilson]

He would have been like, oh, hey.

[Adam Scott]

Piano, where's your Yamaha? You know.

[Paul Scheer]

There'S a bunch of. The one thing I just wanted to. Again, little things that get caught in my mind that I. I feel like it's. That's worthy of talking about is when she goes on Saturday Night Live. And I want to just applaud the sketch that was happening on Saturday Night Live.

[Casey Wilson]

Do you have it?

[Paul Scheer]

I do not, unfortunately. The blow dryer briefcase sketch. So she's, like, getting ready again very late. Like, they're like, okay, Billie, you're on in, like four minutes. And she's just arriving at snl. Like, there was no rehearsal time. There's nothing. She's being ushered in moments before her performance.

[Casey Wilson]

Terrible management, all around, public everything. No one gets her anywhere in enough time.

[Adam Scott]

That's her whole career.

[Dan Levy]

The publicist is working hard.

[Adam Scott]

Her whole career is like, we gotta go now. You're on in five.

[Dan Levy]

And then she's like, call dice.

[Paul Scheer]

But yeah, the blow dryer briefcase is one of my favorite scenes. But here's actually a little thing about that. The publicist character was supposed to have a thick Swiss slash German accent, like all publicists. But the. But the studio felt that since this was the 80s, the accent wouldn't work in tandem with the costumes.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Scott]

Because that's the problem with this movie, the publicist accent.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm glad the studio was choosing to micromanage things like that other. And just let the big picture stay as it was.

[Paul Scheer]

Other little things from the commentary track. I just realized I have this page here. Max Beasley is the guy who you worked with in the great film Torque Led the way for Fast and Furious films.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

He toured with George Michael and Jamiroquai.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, like as a singer?

[Paul Scheer]

Dancer, I guess as a marimba player, Drums and piano. I mean, he toured with them. I mean, he plays drums and piano, suits super nice.

[Casey Wilson]

Very cool guy.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's say he's touring with Jamiro Kwai and George Michael. The talented dude has to be cool. Yeah. And this is another funny thing from the commentary track. The director originally didn't want to do the movie because he wasn't interested in working with singers. He wanted to work with actors. But after he saw Mariah Carey's audition tape for Shaft, he signed on to.

[Casey Wilson]

Direct for the Samuel L. Jackson Shaft.

[Paul Scheer]

Mariah Carey did not get that part.

[Dan Levy]

Everyone else was like, oh.

[Paul Scheer]

And wow. And then this is one more. One more little fact. Just another fact. The director of Glitter thought that one of the funniest scenes in the movie Was the music video shoot. The director is making her wear a bikini. Apparently, the intent of the scene is that the director was English was a second language, and his vision was getting lost in the translation. That was. That was the game of the scene that we might not have gotten.

[Casey Wilson]

Whoa.

[Adam Scott]

I actually figured that out.

[Paul Scheer]

So just some little tips that you might get in there, man. It's pretty great.

[Dan Levy]

What happened to Eric Benet. I'm like, did I forget how that ended with Eric?

[Casey Wilson]

He just faded away.

[Paul Scheer]

Eric Benet. Basically, everyone was like, dice is bad for you. You need to team up with Eric Benet. Dice is like, but I love the world.

[Dan Levy]

In which Dice is like, an abuser and a womanizer, and Eric Benet is the saint.

[Paul Scheer]

Ye. Yeah. They recorded a duo, like a song. It became number one. She played Madison Square Garden. Bye. See you later. He's done. He served his purpose.

[Adam Scott]

See you later.

[Paul Scheer]

See you later, Eric Binet. Well, let's go to the audience because we have a couple more clubs, but let's go to the audience here and see if there's anything that we might have missed. So let's get these house lights up. All right. We got a lot of hands. All right, already. All right, let's see. Let's see what people are saying. All right, I'm going to go to you first. What is your name? What would you have called Billy Franks? What would you have given her the name of? And your question?

[Dan Levy]

My name is Cora. I would have given her the name Seductive Soltress.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, nice. I like that.

[Dan Levy]

And my question is, when you were listening to the commentary, did they say anything about Mariah Carey's cats?

[Paul Scheer]

Great question.

[Dan Levy]

That cat lived a long time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, the cat went away for a majority of the movie.

[Dan Levy]

An hour and 10 minutes. And then on the stairwell, I'm like, is that the same cat?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they make a big deal out of it because she has the cat as a child. But then when she breaks up with Dice, you see her, like, grabbing the cat and leaving, like, and I'm taking.

[Dan Levy]

This cat with me.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

You're like, oh, did I miss the cat? I fucking forgot about that stupid cat.

[Casey Wilson]

How did I miss the cat entirely.

[Dan Levy]

When she went into the orchestra?

[Paul Scheer]

Cause you wouldn't know it. Cause the cat really is barely in the movie, is grabbed as an exclamation point when she storms out of Dice's apartment, she's like, and I'm taking the cat, and the cat's head is just in her hands. It's a nice two shot, to be fair.

[Adam Scott]

The cat is in the first 40 seconds of the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Apparently, Mariah didn't like working with the cat. So, yes. Your name. What you would have called Mariah Carey's character and your question? Yeah, my name's Kerry. I would have called her character beige. She is a beige woman. She's like khaki. She's a khaki woman. Well, it wasn't so much about, like, skin. Well, costuming was definitely part of it, but it was just more her general attitude towards them. Oh, interesting. I like that. So the beginning is a flashback scene, and then at the end of the flashback scene, we get the transition. That's like the whoosh. And then it's supposed to be in the present, but no, it's still in the past. And then there's another scene whoosh. Still in the past.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

This goes on for, like, five times.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, transit. We haven't talked about transitions.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Let'S hear it for transitions.

[Adam Scott]

A lot of that, like, raving type of stuff throughout the entire.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's just talk about the fireworks. That's a ballsy move for any filmmaker.

[Casey Wilson]

Like.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, let's put some fireworks in this one transition scene.

[Casey Wilson]

There were several times. They weren't exactly transitions, but there were just times when it would. When the scene would speed up.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, that.

[Casey Wilson]

And it was just because these stupid, shitty, terrible shots they were getting were taking too long. So they had to speed them up, Right?

[Dan Levy]

Yes. Like when Terrence Howard and Dice were walking through the bar, and then it just was, like, in three phases.

[Casey Wilson]

Yep.

[Dan Levy]

Okay.

[Adam Scott]

It's like they sped that stuff up. But again, like, the first part of.

[Casey Wilson]

The movie is so long.

[Adam Scott]

Five minutes long.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, ma', am, your name and your question.

[Dan Levy]

My name is Waleska.

[Paul Scheer]

Nice to meet you.

[Dan Levy]

There was a part when after they went to bed together the first time.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Made love, she was saying when they fucked.

[Dan Levy]

She said, I don't generally do this. And then he was really mean and he said, oh, I can tell.

[Paul Scheer]

I forgot about that.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, he said, I can tell. And then she gave him an absolutely blank look, and he said, I'm just kidding. She gave him another blank look, and then the scene ended.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, sir, your name, your song title, a Dice produced song track, or Billy Frank's alternate name? And your question?

[Casey Wilson]

All right, my name is Brian. My Dice song is Trouble in Paradise.

[Paul Scheer]

Nice. Yeah, very nice. Very good. And there's a scene halfway through the.

[Casey Wilson]

Movie where it's shortly after she tries to find her mother, and then she finds a homeless woman on the street.

[Dan Levy]

Thank you. Thank you for bringing that up.

[Casey Wilson]

Identical to her mother looks at her and then just walks away. And nothing is ever.

[Paul Scheer]

Nothing happened. That's a good point. We were talking about this backstage. What do you think happened there?

[Dan Levy]

Was it a dream?

[Paul Scheer]

Because why wouldn't you at least stop her? Right. Like you would.

[Dan Levy]

Magical realism. I'm here.

[Paul Scheer]

Magical realism. All right. Yes. When in doubt, it's magical realism. I'm gonna come over here. All right. Your. Your name, your Dice Song track, and your question.

[Audience Member]

My name is Erica. My Dice Song track is going braless.

[Dan Levy]

Because there was a lot of braless moments.

[Audience Member]

My question is, if you notice and if you know this about Mariah, she only likes to be photographed from her right side. And there's, I think, one scene in the movie where the director got her left side. Does it say anything in the commentary of how long he had to talk to her to get her to shoot from her bad side?

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh, that's a no in the commentary track. He is effusive about every actor except for Mariah Carey.

[Casey Wilson]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

He's not. He's not mean about her, but he's diplomatic.

[Casey Wilson]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. So that is. That is. That speaks volumes. All right, let's see. I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna see what your question is. All right. Your name, your Dice track, and here we go. My name's Tony. Of course. The Dice Track has to be Dice. Dice, baby. Yes. Respect. I'm very surprised that the studio made a casting choice based on it being an 80s movie, because there's so little reason for it to take place in the 80s. I could have sworn it was added in post. Well, we talked about that. Yeah. It could have been a. Yeah. There is not like, she's not an 80s singer by any means.

[Adam Scott]

I know. I was just waiting for Dice to do a bunch of coke. That would have been, like, such the easy thing. Like, it's the 80s. Dice just do coke in every scene.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. Okay.

[Dan Levy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

There are toothpick coke everywhere.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, all right, now movie rated, like, PG 13.

[Paul Scheer]

PG 13. Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, that's what.

[Casey Wilson]

So they couldn't do coke?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I would say this.

[Adam Scott]

They could say you're a fat ass.

[Dan Levy]

The mom was a smoking addict.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah. There's, like, two things that upset me about it. Number one, like, I go into this movie and I think, well, at least there'll be some great Mariah Carey songs. Not a one.

[Dan Levy]

Not a one.

[Casey Wilson]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

They're all terrible songs.

[Dan Levy]

Exactly the same. They're all so Breathy and short. You don't even get.

[Paul Scheer]

You don't get a real Mariah performance.

[Dan Levy]

Not that I want it, but you don't get it.

[Adam Scott]

I was. I was waiting for it. Just kept on hearing that stupid syllable song over and over again like, no, no, no, no.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie actually made me really happy that Gwen Stefani didn't try her hand at acting like I actually have more respect for her. I was like, you know what? You did it, right? Because Gwen Stefani could have done this, but she said, no, I'm a fucking singer.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

What? Do you have a question?

[Adam Scott]

I saw her kids in Ralph's last weekend.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm sure she's raising them with the same smartness that she did when she probably turned down her movie of glitter.

[Adam Scott]

No, she wasn't. There someone else with the kids?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. You have a notebook. Are you. Here's your question. I actually have a song title as well. It would have been honey, you've got a bunch of ass, or whatever he says in the limo. I like it. Yeah. But my. My question is, she was trying to find her mom for so long, but she knew who her real dad was. Why didn't she ever try and find her dad, like, the whole time? Well, dad abandoned her, though. I mean, that was it, though. The dad didn't want anything to do with her. The mom, it's. It seems weird. Cause the mom seemed to give her up without any issue. I guess they. Both of us.

[Adam Scott]

I think the mom was just like, look, I'm a smoker. I can't raise you.

[Dan Levy]

How come the mom, you know, Mariah's biggest dream, you know, and it sounds silly, but it was for the mom to be sitting in the audience and be proud of her.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

How come Billy's dream for her at the end wasn't that the mom was at Madison Square Garden. It was like, gotta go see mom in Marilyn.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, by the way, Billy's letter at the end of the movie. We haven't even gotten into that. Yeah, the best. The best thing in the. Billy is now dead. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Dice's letter. Dice's letter. Dice, sorry.

[Adam Scott]

Dice has been shot to death.

[Paul Scheer]

But luckily he. Luckily he went to Madison Square Garden, dropped off a handwritten letter and one rose, and wrote a letter that it would explain everything just in case he was shot. Like, he basically is, like, so sorry we fought. I love you too, by the way. Found out about your mom. Here's where she lives. Gotta go see after the show. Bye. Bye. Like, save some of that for after the show. Like, hey, great job, by the way. I found your mom. Like, you don't have to put that all in the letter.

[Adam Scott]

P.S. i feel like I might get shot tonight.

[Casey Wilson]

Wait, how does she know who her dad is?

[Paul Scheer]

Because in the beginning, they go to that guy's house and knocks on the door. Remember? They get that money.

[Dan Levy]

They get the money.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Which also brings.

[Dan Levy]

Was the mom just recently fired?

[Adam Scott]

No, she was on fire.

[Casey Wilson]

No, she did. She said, I just got fired.

[Dan Levy]

I didn't know if that was wrong.

[Paul Scheer]

I think she was lying because she's an addict of smoking.

[Dan Levy]

Right.

[Casey Wilson]

She needed money for cigarettes again.

[Dan Levy]

And I'm so sorry to bring it up. And it's not to be funny. I'm genuinely asking, why didn't Dice bring the mom to Madison Square Garden? They had an attempt at a kind of a nice Casey.

[Casey Wilson]

We don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

But wait, we never know.

[Dan Levy]

Great answer.

[Paul Scheer]

Wouldn't have been a great ending if he was like. He was like on the phone. He's like, yes, yes. She's performing. I'll come pick you up. All right, I'll be right there. And then Terrence Howard's like, bam. Like, that would have been more fulfilling as, like, a moment.

[Casey Wilson]

There is no connective tissue in this movie. Nothing.

[Paul Scheer]

Just the cat is connected. All right. Yes. Your question. Notebook. Notebook is open. There's many things in there. Thoughts are in there. All right, Your name, your song title, your question. Go.

[Dan Levy]

Okay.

[Audience Member]

My name's Maria. My Dice. Song title would be Elton John look alike. Because there's definitely a scene in the club where I thought he was Elton John for, like, the full scene, because he looks exactly like him.

[Paul Scheer]

Dice looks like Elton John.

[Audience Member]

Just like him. He's got, like, the round glasses, and he's just kind of sitting chilling. He doesn't say anything. I thought they got Elton and John for the movie, and I got excited for a second.

[Casey Wilson]

Wait. All right, Ice has round glass.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't remember this scene, but one scene. She's got a notebook. So I believe her.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay. Okay.

[Adam Scott]

I feel like she paid more.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, here's her.

[Dan Levy]

Three of us.

[Audience Member]

So it's always great when they can manage to work in the title of the movie into a line. And that happens during that excellent music video scene when the director says, the glitter cannot overpower the artist, which I feel like the screenwriter wrote that line and sat back and was like, nailed it.

[Paul Scheer]

He was, like, done for the day.

[Casey Wilson]

Yep.

[Adam Scott]

I just saved the cat.

[Dan Levy]

He's like, I was Gonna have the mom come at Madison Square Garden? Not anymore.

[Paul Scheer]

He got real lazy. Let's see who has a good question. There's so many great questions. I don't even. The wealth of great ones. I'm gonna ask you because here's my question. All right. Your name, your song title, your question. Here we go. All right. My name is Paul. My song. No, the album. I'd probably call it song in the key of Yamaha. Oh, I like that. And then what gets me is. All right, when you get into the movie and they do put what year it is, it says 1983. And then the ticket on there says she's performing in. And it's dated in July. So she got famous and all that stuff in six months. And then she was told that she had to change her sound. She hadn't even put out an album yet. That's a very good. Yeah, she had just basically had a single, and you gotta change it. People are sick of this single. All right.

[Dan Levy]

It got bumped to the second on the charts.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, that was a big deal.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, your name, your song title, and your question.

[Dan Levy]

My name is Ashika. My song made up.

[Paul Scheer]

That.

[Dan Levy]

That could be Billy Frank.

[Paul Scheer]

Could be. I like that.

[Dan Levy]

My song title would be, I don't know, party. Like it's 1993. Because that seemed like the actual date this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Like it.

[Dan Levy]

All right, and my question is. Can we talk about Dice's accent?

[Paul Scheer]

Good question. Yeah. What do you think? Where do you think he's from?

[Dan Levy]

I guess since Adam knows him, is he not American?

[Casey Wilson]

Like, he's British.

[Dan Levy]

He's British.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I didn't know that well.

[Adam Scott]

But that doesn't explain the accent because it was kind of like he's like a New York.

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of British. When British people do American accents, they. They feel like they take a Robert De Niro. Y. Kind of like. Yeah, like a thing. Yeah, yeah. One more question. One more question. There's so many good ones. I can go to the.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, look, he's seven.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You have a good question. Do you think you have a good question? Who has a good question? Really have a good question. All right. You do? All right, I think. All right.

[Casey Wilson]

Did someone say no when you asked A bit. I think, though, honestly, no hands go down. I'll sit back.

[Paul Scheer]

It is a great script. You make everybody think about it.

[Adam Scott]

There's no bad questions because we only have bad answers.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, here we go. Your name, song title, question. Okay.

[Audience Member]

My name is Naomi.

[Dan Levy]

My song title would be I'll Only kiss you twice.

[Casey Wilson]

That's terrific.

[Audience Member]

They only kiss twice in the whole movie. And the lyrics to the song that she's singing about her mom are, you could have had the decency to give me up before you gave me life.

[Dan Levy]

Oh, so that's not so much a question as a terrible downer.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's worthy of talking about because I felt like the mom was very, like, good with her. I mean, she made sure she went to a bar where they served. Where they served milk and shot glasses.

[Adam Scott]

Then she forced her on the stage to sing.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

Then she burnt down her house.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, obviously they reunite. Obviously they reunited. And I want to show the director's commentary track for the. The reunion.

[Casey Wilson]

I just wanted to say real quick, there's that scene when they're in the cab and the song comes on the radio for the first time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

And they're like, get it. He's like, you gotta get. He gets out of the cab. It's so confusing. It's like, oh, so you're on. You haven't been on the radio yet. Okay. It's like their success level is so unclear, it makes no sense.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he runs out of the cab, grabs a homeless person, hugs him. That was the first.

[Casey Wilson]

And then she's like, give me, give me, give me change. Give me. She keeps asking for something. I don't know what she's talking about. And he gives her a couple quarters. She runs over to the phone booth and there's a little kid making a phone call. Like a nine year old just chatting on the phone.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

They're like, please just let. She's on the radio right now. Let us have the phone. And he's like. He gives them the phone and then he says, she's on the radio. Can I get her autograph? And Dice is like, Dice said, I don't got a pen, baby. And the kid, like, goes away.

[Adam Scott]

But the way the way the movie goes, it would have made more sense if, like, Dice was like, hey, the radio called. They need you to be over at the radio station to sing the single right now because it's popular.

[Paul Scheer]

So. All right, here is. Let's check in with the end of the movie so we can kind of get the idea of what you dummies missed, because clearly there's a lot of symbolism here that none of you got. So Mariah Carey takes her limo all the way to Maryland to her mom's house, and her mom recognizes her immediately. So her mom is very aware of Billy Franks, I would imagine. Okay.

[Adam Scott]

She's been famous for six months.

[Trailer Voice]

The juxtaposition of the gown, glitter in the. In the country on the grass, and her mother in the country house. I thought it's a wonderful way to end the picture where though there has been loss, there's new beginning. And ultimately you're never too far away.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay, so does he ever. Does he ever wondered once during the commentary track, just say, look.

[Paul Scheer]

This is the last one I will be doing.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, I'm sorry.

[Adam Scott]

Then you hear a gunshot.

[Paul Scheer]

He did do it with a gun in his mouth the entire time.

[Dan Levy]

The mom looks completely. Like she's completely kicked her cigarette habit. And it's like. It's like a Geneva commercial.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Dan Levy]

The end. It's a very nice house. It just seems sort of like, well, well, to me.

[Paul Scheer]

Again, the more compelling ending is that she gets her mom, like, off the street. Like, her mom is rebounded in a great way.

[Dan Levy]

Her mom's doing great.

[Casey Wilson]

She seems great. So her mom completely rebounded. She's got her shit together and just never.

[Adam Scott]

She's in the country, tried to get.

[Casey Wilson]

In touch with her daughter.

[Dan Levy]

Right, so the mom's also a horrible person.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Way worse.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are other people out there who had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. These are five star reviews of the film Glitter from Amazon. And this one was written. The title is called Stellar. Glitter shines brightly. Did half of the negative reviewers of this film even see the same film as I did? I saw Glitter starring Mariah Carey and Max Beasley. Is there another film by the same title that I don't know about people? It's not as bad as you think. It's actually good. Personally, I think Glitter will do better with a DVD release because it should have gone straight to dvd. But all in all, an excellent and entertaining movie. Even the plot and dialogue are not bad. Five stars. This one is written by Gleta Richardson and she titles it Sunshine. And now sometimes when you read Amazon reviews, they are not in the best English, so bear with me. Every day. I had this movie on vhs. I watched it so much it stopped working. So I'm glad I don't have to worry about this DVD not working. That's why I found it. I had to hurry and purchase it. Now I'm happy. Five stars. This one is called you're not bad for that one. That's what it's called. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll cheer. If it cheer. Yep. If it weren't for Moulin Rouge, this could be the greatest musical of all time. It's not even technically a musical.

[Adam Scott]

They're barely singing in this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

I think people have it all wrong when it comes to glitter. It's a fantastic movie and a gritty drama about a biracial singer who climbs to the top. Mariah isn't as good of an actress as Nicole Kidman, but she's getting there.

[Dan Levy]

Guys, I wrote this.

[Paul Scheer]

It is true.

[Dan Levy]

I wrote this one.

[Casey Wilson]

I thought this sounded like you, Casey.

[Paul Scheer]

It also has Eric Benet, who used to be married to Halle Perry, who is the world's most talented actress. Wait, that. That.

[Adam Scott]

That part doesn't make sense.

[Paul Scheer]

Regarding glitter, don't listen to the dumb haters who trash this movie. There are a bunch of snot nosed 15 year olds who never even watched the DVD but spent hours listening to Limp Bizkit. Yuck. Anyhow, this movie's a masterpiece. Trust me.

[Casey Wilson]

That is my favorite movie review of all time.

[Paul Scheer]

And this one, I'm putting it in just because I don't understand it. This is by Mr. E.S.M. moshaya. This movie deserves 5 stars as it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. I really think all the people should wake up. I mean, of all the modern technologies, People are taking it for granted. If this movie came out 10 years ago, it would have won an Oscar.

[Adam Scott]

10 years ago.

[Paul Scheer]

What? Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

So modern technologies.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know what the modern technologies rant in the middle was. What? What?

[Adam Scott]

What movie won best Oscar 10 years ago? Someone should tell us that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, we should Google anyone? Anyone? Pull out your phone and Google what? One in 91. All right, so any. Any final thoughts, guys? Anything that we didn't cover? What was it?

[Dan Levy]

Silence of the Lamb.

[Paul Scheer]

Silence of the Lambs. That would have been a tough year.

[Dan Levy]

Tough category.

[Casey Wilson]

And then what won in 2001? What?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, what won in 2001 or 2002? It should be Beautiful Mind. That was a tough one. That is a tough year.

[Adam Scott]

The winner is. Oh, Beautiful Minds.

[Casey Wilson]

I would recommend this. Fun. This is a good one to watch.

[Paul Scheer]

100% super fun to watch. And like I said, get that DVD and watch that commentary track.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm going to.

[Paul Scheer]

The director has no conception of what he has done except for create a masterpiece.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, well, usually they do commentary before the movie's actually released, so he probably did it. Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. That. That is extremely the case in From Justin to Kelly. They recorded it right after they rap and they are consistently talking about oh, my God. When people see this, they're gonna go nuts. They're gonna love. They're gonna love this. Oh, my God. They, like, they're reveling in the gigantic success the. The Grease like stature.

[Dan Levy]

Their own work in general is just such an asshole. So it's just. I don't actually feel that bad.

[Paul Scheer]

It is. I think the director should have said at the end, and you're welcome. Yeah, he did create a masterpiece of sorts. So you would recommend watching it, right?

[Dan Levy]

Of course. Of course.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah. I definitely would watch this movie over and over again.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I think that that is. That's it. We have done glitter. We have. We have done it up. Please give it up for our amazing panel. Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, Dan Levy, go over all of them and watch all their amazing shows. Mulaney. When Does Mulaney premiere?

[Adam Scott]

October 5th.

[Paul Scheer]

When does Marry Me start up?

[Dan Levy]

October 14th.

[Paul Scheer]

And when does Parks and Rec come back?

[Casey Wilson]

I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, very exciting. What a great show. Give it up one more time for Casey Wilson, Adam Scott, and Dan Levy. I'm only laughing because I'm picturing you.

Applauding them wherever you are.

Also, we could not do this show without the amazing people at Largo. A big shout out to Flanny, Alec Griffey, all those guys who do it.

Up every time for us.

They are amazing. Also, I want to just say thank you to July, our editor engineer on this one. He was amazing. And our interns, who go to the bone with the cutting the clips, getting the research, everything. Leanna Waldron does all of our graphics. Big thanks to her. But a special thank you to Avril.

Halley, who cuts all of our amazing clips.

And of course, all of our research is done by Nate Kiley. And I'm also gonna say Avril also.

Contributes that as well.

Katie Dyer does all of our stuff online.

And if you want to see us.

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