
Robbie Coltrane & Eugene Levy star in 2009's Gooby— a movie that proves the age-old adage that a child’s best friend is a 7-foot-tall scary-ass Scottish bear that makes other kids piss their pants. Canada expert Nathan Fielder (The Rehearsal) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss all of Gooby's creepy interactions with kids, Gooby's wide ass, Gooby's ability to shrink down into a stuffed animal, why some see Gooby as a monster and others as a man in a costume, and so much more. Plus, Nathan reveals he technically funded the production of this movie. (Ep. #89 Originally Released 07/22/2014)
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Paul Scheer
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Paul Scheer
See terms. Finally, a kid's movie that proves the age old adage that a kid's best friend is a 7 foot tall scary ass looking Scottish bear that that makes other kids piss their pants. We saw Gooby so you know what that means. Now it's time for how did this get made? We're gonna have a good time, celebrate
June Diane Raphael
some failure, not just be a hater.
Paul Scheer
Cause you know you wonder how did this get made?
June Diane Raphael
Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the
Paul Scheer
question how did this get made? Hello people of Earth and welcome to how did this get Made? I am Paul Scheer, joined as always by Jason Manzoukas. How are you Jason?
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, I'm terrific. Paul. How are.
Paul Scheer
Very good. And June, Diane Rayfield. How are you June?
June Diane Raphael
I'm good, Paul. How are you?
Paul Scheer
Very good. We have a very special guest today from the hit TV show Nathan for your. Please welcome Nathan Fielder. Give it up for Nathan. Welcome Nathan.
Nathan Fielder
Thanks for having me.
Paul Scheer
And your show comes back on June 24th. If you've not seen the show, put your dvrs. It's amazing. It's so funny. June 24th. Set those DVRs now.
Jason Manzoukas
But we will wait. So please go to. Yeah, we'll wait.
Paul Scheer
We'll give you, like, what, like three minutes?
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, like I was gonna say, like two. Two and a half minutes.
Paul Scheer
I'll give you three.
Jason Manzoukas
Okay. Just in case you're powering up this movie.
Paul Scheer
Gooby. Holy moly. People have talked about this movie.
Jason Manzoukas
Really? I've never heard of this.
Paul Scheer
I've never heard of it. I've heard about it through people who like bad movies. Like, have you seen Gooby? And so it's been on my radar.
Jason Manzoukas
I had a question just straight out of the gate. I didn't do any research on this film, and at a certain point, I started to feel as though this might have been a film made for kids dealing with mental illness. Well, I wrote that at all.
June Diane Raphael
Is that mental illness?
Jason Manzoukas
Mental illness? Like. Like, as if to say, like, here's a movie. Here's one for you guys. Like, you're dealing with a lot. Like, the world is like. Like, the kid is definitely having, like, some sort of, like, spells.
June Diane Raphael
Well, see that? I really want to get into that because that was my biggest question, too. Which is the setup of Gooby's arrival.
Jason Manzoukas
Correct.
June Diane Raphael
Because it actually, I would argue that he's just a kid with an active imagination. He's not. And he moves, and that's a big change for anyone.
Paul Scheer
I just felt that his active imagination was not. It wasn't like, oh, he's so creative. It was like his mom says, hallucinations.
June Diane Raphael
Here's my question. Were the problems starting before he moved out of that house or not?
Paul Scheer
Yes. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
So, okay, so he's already been to
Jason Manzoukas
the therapist, the woman, the mom says, you know, doctor. Remember what Dr. Such and such said?
June Diane Raphael
But here's my question. It seemed like he enjoyed the town, and he had friends at his old school.
Jason Manzoukas
Sure.
Nathan Fielder
She didn't want to move.
June Diane Raphael
This is what's hard to wrap your mind around. Because you want to think that it's circumstantial that something major happens, which is that he's totally uprooted from his life. And then he's so scared of new experiences, and Gooby comes to the rescue. But that's not what happens. Which makes me wonder, where was Gooby all along? Yeah, if he was having those problems,
Jason Manzoukas
where was Gooby all along? But also, I felt at a certain point I was like, oh, this is going to be a Calvin and Hobbes kind of scenario where the Gooby character, only he sees the Gooby as the person. No, everyone sees Gooby.
Paul Scheer
Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
No, not true. Everybody can see Gooby as a giant monster. There's a monster in the world. And so the kid imagines other monsters. Remember that blue monster that it's in his backyard.
Paul Scheer
That's one that he's really afraid of. That two headed.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah, I didn't understand that part. Is that monster is called a hooby.
June Diane Raphael
Hoonies.
Paul Scheer
Hoonies. Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
Right. Which is really close to Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby. Gooby. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Now I will.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh yeah. There's a real consistency. They're all part of the same phylo.
Nathan Fielder
But in the setup of the movie, the kid is kind of telling you his struggle and you don't really empathize with him. Right. Because he seems like he's troubled. Like he seems like he has harder, a harder time than the average kid would dealing with what are kind of basic things. Right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Well, it seemed like as much as he loved that, he seemed like he wasn't healed the proper way either because from some trauma.
Jason Manzoukas
I don't know. Was there trauma?
June Diane Raphael
I think maybe it was just like systematic bad parenting like his.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, well, this isn't real.
Paul Scheer
The parents in this movie are assholes.
Jason Manzoukas
The movie is a scathing indictment of two working parent households.
Paul Scheer
Here, take a listen to the mom and how bad she is.
June Diane Raphael
This has gone on long enough. Okay, we're moving today. But you're wrecking all my stuff. Unbelievable.
Paul Scheer
Six weeks we've been dealing with this. You're way too old for this behavior.
June Diane Raphael
Way. Wait six weeks. But those are my battle plans, my models. And this is my aim of the fire. Keeps me safe from danger. Okay, now I'm hearing new things from this section of viewing. She's saying that this has been going on for only six weeks.
Jason Manzoukas
No, the move, the move. This is to establish the time jump. Because this scene comes after he starts
June Diane Raphael
preparing for the move. The hoonies.
Jason Manzoukas
No, he's drawing the hoonies in like the first scene. Like they are. He is having full blown into the hoonies. He's having full blown like hallucinations that aren't just like a wife to me, that aren't just an active imagination because we see them brought to life, like in his world. Like when he's visualizing them, he's like, oh my God, there's a hoonie over there. And he gets really still and whatever. But then also Gooby comes to life and he's standing over there and so.
Paul Scheer
And Gooby is not also a toy that, like, you would think in a movie like this, like in Calvin and Hobbs, Hobbs is like his toy that he plays his best friend. His best friend, but not the case. But Gooby is not his best friend. It's a discarded toy.
June Diane Raphael
If anything, in the first 10 minutes,
Paul Scheer
he left it at the house.
June Diane Raphael
Absolutely. In the first 10 minutes, you think the amulet's gonna come back?
Jason Manzoukas
He did. You thought this movie was gonna be about the amulet?
June Diane Raphael
There are so many references to the amulet and how he's close to that
Jason Manzoukas
amulet that I would love it if the amulet instead came to life as an amulet. Yeah, Booby. Booby. The amulet.
Paul Scheer
But I wasn't there. There was. I mean, well, whatever. I feel like Gooby. By the way, the movie's original title was a Ted named Gooby, which I like.
June Diane Raphael
My other question is, I didn't think of Gooby as a monster. I thought of him as a teddy bear.
Jason Manzoukas
I. But everybody keeps referring to him as a monster.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. Which I have an issue with. Cause he doesn't like.
Nathan Fielder
Well, there was the craziest thing, too, where, like, people who saw him would see him as a monster.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
But then when Halloween hit. I'm jumping out of order.
June Diane Raphael
Please, please.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah, it's like, it keeps going. Like, Halloween comes, and then everyone sees it as a man in a costume.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Nathan Fielder
And then also throughout the movie, there's just. It's not consistent when someone says, oh, it's just a guy in a costume, which they use to cover him. Sometimes people all believe it immediately and aren't even. No one's even saying, that's an amazing costume. That's the greatest costume I've ever seen. People just think it's, oh, that's just a man in a costume.
June Diane Raphael
Nobody says, oh, my God. For a second, I thought that that was a real monster.
Nathan Fielder
Right.
Jason Manzoukas
Or a bear.
June Diane Raphael
Or a bear.
Jason Manzoukas
Or a bear.
Paul Scheer
Well, my thing is this. It's clearly not a real bear, because it does not look like a real bear. Right. There's nothing about it that looks like a real be. Looks like a man in a costume. And so when Eugene Levy's character.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, Eugene Levy's in this movie?
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jason Manzoukas
If you're wondering if Eugene Levy's in this movie, he is, and he's awesome.
Paul Scheer
I love Eugene Levy, and I'm excited that he did this, but his character has a lot of things we have to talk about. But when he wants to get a picture of this, what would stop anyone going, well, that's just a picture of a man in a Costume. Cause like, that was my issue with it too. Like, look at this creature. But then they'd be like, well, that's the guy in a. Like, we don't believe in Bigfoot creatures.
June Diane Raphael
Did anyone else notice that they were referring to him a lot as an orange monster? And maybe I'm colorblind, but I didn't think he looked orange. Now I know this is a small detail.
Nathan Fielder
He was like, brown.
June Diane Raphael
He's brown.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
As I know it.
Jason Manzoukas
I would say that as well.
June Diane Raphael
But everybody kept calling him and did you see the orange monster?
Nathan Fielder
I think they already had the script written.
June Diane Raphael
Oh.
Nathan Fielder
So there were no changes, prop or whatever, his costume. And then they just said, well, we're not gonna change every word to the boy.
June Diane Raphael
That's the weirdest thing about the look of Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, here's. This is the weirdest thing about the look of Gooby. All right, great.
June Diane Raphael
Gooby is legit terrifying to look at.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Not a fun creature.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby is not lovable. Is not like, Gooby is like, what is his personality? What is his age? Cause I also had a real problem with this be.
June Diane Raphael
I felt he was a middle aged man.
Jason Manzoukas
There was a middle aged man taking this young boy out in the middle of the night, deep into the woods. I was like, what is happening?
Paul Scheer
Well, my big concern about this movie was that it was like, Gooby acts like a child molester.
Jason Manzoukas
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Throughout this whole movie. Sit on my lap.
Jason Manzoukas
Do you trust me? He says at one point, tomorrow, I want you to go on an adventure with me. Don't you trust me? I was like, the answer should be no. The lesson we should be teaching children is no. I don't trust you to take me
June Diane Raphael
to the woods because you're very uncomfortable the very end. Not to reveal anything, but reveal away the very end. When Gooby finds another friend, another child in need who's like this young, very young girl with pigtails. I felt a visceral like, no.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah. Don't give, don't give.
Paul Scheer
Gooby did not want to share his relationship.
Nathan Fielder
Okay, here's maybe it's about like a child dealing with sexual abuse from his father.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
So he's trying to act like it's a fun doll.
Jason Manzoukas
It could also be that. It could also be, by the way,
June Diane Raphael
it could totally be that. Because I thought for a while that Gooby was going to be. We were gonna reveal that Gooby was also in the dad's room.
Jason Manzoukas
That's what I thought too.
Paul Scheer
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Jason Manzoukas
This makes Jack Frost seem totally normal.
Paul Scheer
There's nothing. There's no. There's not like, literally, I'm not, like, exaggerating, like, oh, there's literally no plot there. There is no plot.
Jason Manzoukas
There's no plot. There are five actors. It's almost like Brechtian. What's happening? It's like so few people in an environment that has no other people. The entire, like, hokey, kind of, uh, oh, crazy supermarket scene. Like, somebody's gonna see Gooby. They're not. It's empty. There's not a person in the supermarket.
Paul Scheer
But by the way, Gooby does not also try to hide in front of people either.
Jason Manzoukas
No, he loves talking to everybody.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Well, that's why I ask again, what is Gooby and who is he? Because there are times where he seems like, I would love to say, oh, Gooby always forgets how big he is. And Gooby always forgets his stature and so just runs out and he thinks he's a. That doesn't seem to be the case. At points, he seems very savvy. Very savvy, very insightful.
Jason Manzoukas
Well, he brings Willy to the father's old home.
Paul Scheer
Gooby is like going like Stanley Tucci and lovely bones on this kid. He's bringing him down to weird. Well, no, Gooby is not like. I wouldn't even. I couldn't even describe Gooby like as a character.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
What is he?
Nathan Fielder
One of the first things he did was blow a fart in the kid's face.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that.
Nathan Fielder
Right.
Jason Manzoukas
That was the important part.
Nathan Fielder
That's their bonding moment.
Paul Scheer
And he also is eating out of a giant Tupperware of raw hot dogs. And he goes, watch this. He takes a bite of a hot dog and just throws it at the kid's face.
June Diane Raphael
It's disgusting.
Paul Scheer
As if that's a fun game.
June Diane Raphael
There's also the scene where Gooby first. Gooby first goes to. When he. Willie's trying to find out where to put Gooby in the house.
Jason Manzoukas
It's a very like E.T. kind of scenario.
June Diane Raphael
And he takes him out to the shed and Gooby says, I can't. Could anyone hear? I also had trouble with like the sound mix in this movie. I couldn't hear a lot of the words. But doesn't Gooby say, I can't stay here because there's. Why doesn't he stay in that shadow in the basement?
Jason Manzoukas
He doesn't stay in the basement. Cause it's too dark. And he's clearly afraid of the dark.
June Diane Raphael
No, that's the first night out in the shed.
Jason Manzoukas
Then they move from the first shed. Then he moves him to the shed. And then Gooby. That's when Gooby's reading comic books and drawing pictures. And at a certain point I was like, he can't sleep. Like he's definitely gonna jerk off. Right? Like that's what's coming next. He's like so like, oh, I'm up. I can't fall asleep. Oh, I might as well pound my Gooby.
June Diane Raphael
He's also watching TV shows. Like watching very old movies and stuff.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, like a 40 year old man. Yeah, like a 45 year old man in a shed.
Jason Manzoukas
Well, also Gooby is voiced by Hagrid from the Harry Potter movies, Robbie Coltrane. So that should be noted as well. He sounds like an older Scottish gentleman.
Paul Scheer
Well, let's actually play the scene where we meet. Where we meet Gooby for the first time or. Yeah, let's hear that one. To get a sense of what Gooby is like.
June Diane Raphael
When you're. But you're Gooby.
Nathan Fielder
The bell.
Jason Manzoukas
You guessed it. I thought it would take a Lot longer than that.
June Diane Raphael
Not. Not hoonies. Hoonies.
Paul Scheer
So Gooby is also afraid of hoonies?
Nathan Fielder
No, he doesn't know what they are, though. After that, he's like, wait, what? The hoonies.
Paul Scheer
Oh, okay. So that, you know, that's just sort of the Gruff. The Gruff. Lovable again.
Jason Manzoukas
I just want to reiterate this. This appearance of the magical bear come to life is appearing to a child who is already experiencing hallucinations.
Paul Scheer
Yes, but he's not a hallucination.
Jason Manzoukas
But Gooby is not a. Like, it's not a. It's a Mr. Snuffleophagus kind of feeling.
Paul Scheer
But the only way that they describe Gooby is he goes. The kid. At one point with narration, it says, little did I know something magical was going on at my house.
Jason Manzoukas
Right.
Paul Scheer
In which Gooby just gets, like, hit by, like, a wave of electricity.
Jason Manzoukas
Magic lightning.
Paul Scheer
Like magic lightning.
June Diane Raphael
See, the problem I have with the way that they have made Gooby the Muppet or whatever. Not Muppet.
Paul Scheer
I would say you calling him a Muppet is actually really a.
Jason Manzoukas
He does look like. He does look like a taller, much, much cheaper, more menacing. Fozzie the Bear.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Paul Scheer
He looks like the characters that hang out on Hollywood and Highland. Like, if you were dressing like Fozzie, like, this is like the $70 version of that guy.
Jason Manzoukas
Like some sort of public domain Muppet.
June Diane Raphael
And that's what's so upsetting about the way he looks, because he's adult sized. He's the size of an average man. And so when I'm looking at him and he's a little bit wider, but he's essentially like. If you just saw a figure go by, you'd be like, that's an adult man, but he has a scarf on and no other clothes. And that's an image to me that I find deeply unsettling because it's. When you're just wearing a scarf, I. I look at him and I think, Gooby's naked. Gooby's a naked man because he wears a scarf running around. And I know he's an.
Paul Scheer
Do you feel like that with Donald Duck?
June Diane Raphael
No, I don't, but that's because of his size.
Jason Manzoukas
And he's always. And he's always animated, too. Like, yes, there's something about an animal wearing no clothing, which is fine, totally fine, but an animal wearing a little clothing. So you know what? Then this is a choice. Well, my issue, and this is aggressive. You know what? You are forcing this on me.
June Diane Raphael
I did not.
Paul Scheer
I didn't like his ass was threadbare either. Like his butt cheeks were threadbare.
Jason Manzoukas
Did you notice that? Oh, whenever he's running away, hey man, stop checking out Gooby.
Paul Scheer
Checking out Gooby's butt. But I thought that was an odd choice for, for a, an anime. Like a puppety character like that. Whenever he ran around there.
Jason Manzoukas
I hope the director was like, to the, to the props department or whoever was making wardrobe or whatever was making that costume was just like. But you know, there's gotta be some areas where there's been a lot of wear, you know, like the kid always holds it there. There's gotta be a lot of wear. Like maybe the ass cheeks. Like the ass cheeks.
Paul Scheer
That's also a weird place to get wear on a.
Jason Manzoukas
That's true.
June Diane Raphael
I thought it was supposed to be like an, like a bear's actual ass. Like it wasn't that it. They were trying to make it look worn, but they were trying to replicate
Jason Manzoukas
the actual ass of bears.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, well, by the way. Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Nathan Fielder
No, he just had the tag, which was like a larger. At first I thought it was just a bad costume thing where that's where the actor got in.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. I didn't understand what that was.
Nathan Fielder
But it was just like the blown up version of the tag.
June Diane Raphael
That's right.
Paul Scheer
But cut off kind of like. Or was it was.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah, I couldn't tell.
Paul Scheer
Now I will say that Gooby, while a confusing character, I find this kid's parents to be really upsetting.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Cause there's one point, and this is a moment that really called out to me. Like the kid is. He's covering for Gooby. There's noise upstairs.
Jason Manzoukas
Right.
Paul Scheer
And so the parents are hearing the noise upstairs and the kid tries to be like, oh, I'm getting sick. To distract his parents. At which point, like when he's getting sick, his parents protect the Chinese food in such a way. It's like, ah, don't get it on our chainsaw.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, don't barf on our food. Gross kid.
Paul Scheer
Like they don't want. Like they're terrible parents. Really bad parents.
June Diane Raphael
Well, you sort of find out what is going on with the dad later on when you realize, like, he grew up in a very, you know, poverty stricken neighborhood and his father was always working. And so you kind of understand his drive. But the mom I have more questions about. Cause she's also working.
Jason Manzoukas
She was going back to work.
June Diane Raphael
What do you mean she was going back to work?
Jason Manzoukas
Wasn't that part of the thing? She was going back to work full time. For the first time.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, I didn't hear.
Jason Manzoukas
That's why they get Mary Poppins. That's why, inexplicably, there's a nanny that shows up in the middle of the movie. And then Mary Poppins.
Paul Scheer
The nanny just.
Jason Manzoukas
I thought she was gonna be like, Snoop, who's trying to always, like. Like, under uncover Gooby doing laundry for days. Yeah, she loves folding.
Paul Scheer
I will.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
That again, none of these characters work in tandem. Like, it could be interesting if the nanny was trying to get one up on Gooby, not the school teacher. Who's Eugene Levy, who's played his character's name, which is great. Nerdlinger. Just in case you wanted to just set it out there for everyone. They say nerdlinger about 15 times before he's introduced.
June Diane Raphael
Well, he's an interesting character. So he's introduced as their regular teacher's gone off on maternity leave. So he comes in, and he has written three books about a fish.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah. Like children's books.
June Diane Raphael
Children's books. And none of the kids know the books or know of them. And so he's very upset. And so he. His whole thing is like, he wants to get famous. And I'm just trying to make the leap with the film. Like, he wants to get famous. So in order to do that, he's gonna reveal Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
I guess he's gonna take a picture of Gooby and be like, hey, look, I proved there's a monster.
Nathan Fielder
There were two voiceovers that established that. One was the kid just said he wants to be famous. Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Right. It was all an adr. You're right. It was not.
Nathan Fielder
And he said something.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Eugene Levy says, like, not all of us can be famous or something like that. Like, he makes a scene.
June Diane Raphael
It was also off camera. It was, like, thrown in there.
Nathan Fielder
Same thing.
Jason Manzoukas
There was scenes where there were so many lines off camera that people on camera are just reacting to just because they simply did not have actors that day. Like, they would be running through the supermarket, and it would be just on the kid in Gooby. And then somebody would be like, hey, you, get out of here. And they'd be like, whoa, that's true.
Paul Scheer
Gooby in the supermarket. That's when Gooby really makes his presence known. Cause Gooby likes cookies. Obviously Gooby loves cookies. And also, just to show his parents not being interested at all, they go, oh, you know, they go, that boy's name. I'm sorry, I forget the kid's name. Willy. They go like, oh, Willy's sick today. Oh, why is he sick? I don't know. I found 50 cookie wrappers, but they don't seem to be even like, oh, he shouldn't have eaten 50 cookies. They're just like, whatever. And they're leaving him. So Gooby goes to get cookies at the supermarket. And that scene is way too like. That's like the fun montage. Like you would think, like, they're running around having fun, but all they are doing is running down, up and down aisles in a supermarket. And at one point, Gooby pulls him so violently that the boy is suspended in air. Like he's flying. His socket would come out as I was.
Nathan Fielder
That was a weird choice, that flying thing. Cause that is the first time it's established Gooby has this strength or something or speed that you never see utilized anywhere else.
Paul Scheer
And he never. It doesn't come back. Like, that's the other thing too. Nothing comes back like, that doesn't. Like, even at the end when the boy is in peril, there's no. Gooby doesn't use that speed, doesn't use that.
Jason Manzoukas
All Gooby's able to do is dial a cell phone. When the kid is in peril. The kid.
June Diane Raphael
Do you think Gooby's really. Cause, okay, I think what Gooby's purpose is ultimately because Willy also wanted to build some sort of a cart, right?
Jason Manzoukas
Like a spaceship kind of thing.
June Diane Raphael
Right. And he's got issues at school where there's a bully and he has to stand up to him. Although he doesn't really.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby does. Gooby does on Halloween and makes him pee his pants.
Paul Scheer
That was really upsetting to me, that whole sequence.
June Diane Raphael
First of all, they shouldn't have done that.
Paul Scheer
It's Halloween.
June Diane Raphael
They really shouldn't have done that.
Nathan Fielder
They shouldn't have done that.
Paul Scheer
Now, this is a. A Canadian movie. I realized that midway through when I saw the Captain Crunch.
Jason Manzoukas
Nathan Captin Crunchy.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
So I didn't know anything about this going in. And then there were two kind of bombshells I saw when I googled it after that. It was made in Canada. And the thing that blew me away the most was that it was made in 2009.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Nathan Fielder
I honestly thought this was made in, like, 1985. Yeah, it is the way it looked. And because there's this issue where, like, there's this one scene too where it's a big plot point, but the guy, the dad has to go at some point, leave the house, and he says to the mom, like, you have to stay here in case the police call, implying that cell phones don't exist.
Paul Scheer
I wrote that down too. And yet Gooby has a cell phone because Gooby calls. Gooby uses the kid Willy's cell phone to call the dad.
Nathan Fielder
10 year old. How old's that kid?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, he's like 10 or 11 years old.
Nathan Fielder
He has a cell phone. And the mom doesn't even object. Oh, you know, and the son's missing and he's like, I'm going, I'm not saying where.
June Diane Raphael
Well, the weirdest thing about that scene too is that she's like, she's very upset. And he's like, don't worry, I've spoken to the police. They've assured me that they will call as soon as they know anything.
Paul Scheer
That's the best. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Which is like. He's not saying, don't worry, everything's gonna be okay. He's just like, they've told me they'll call.
Jason Manzoukas
And then he's like, I gotta go out for a minute. And she's like, where are you going? And he does, he goes, you stay here. He's like really emphatic about it. And that's what I wrote in my marriage is terrible.
Paul Scheer
This is back to my question about Canada. And this is. I don't mean to be naive about this, but.
Jason Manzoukas
But you're from Canada, so you better know.
Nathan Fielder
Well, I mean something else about this movie. The budget was $6.5 million. I saw. And. And Canadian films are funded usually if not entirely, a large percentage of them with taxpayer money.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
So this film was made with taxpayer money.
Paul Scheer
Do you want to hear the stats?
June Diane Raphael
So you were there in Canada in 2009 and paid for this?
Nathan Fielder
Yes, I did pay for this there in 2000.
Jason Manzoukas
So you're one of the backers of this movie. This is the conflict with the original conflict.
Nathan Fielder
Yes, I invested.
Jason Manzoukas
Cause I didn't see your name enlisted in the producers.
Nathan Fielder
We don't get credits for it. We don't support the art.
Jason Manzoukas
You should arbitrate. You gotta get a credit.
Paul Scheer
That's probably why Eugene Levy is in this movie. Because he's a Canadian citizen, right?
Nathan Fielder
Yes.
Paul Scheer
So I imagine like. But now here's.
Jason Manzoukas
So he has to. You mean.
Paul Scheer
Well, no, I.
Jason Manzoukas
So they make him. They can call anybody back and be like, you gotta do this. I think there is a thing though
Paul Scheer
where you have to do like, you have to do some sort of art in like if you still share citizens citizenship, you have to do some. But here's.
Nathan Fielder
Wait, what's the rule you're saying?
Paul Scheer
I thought there was a rule that if you if you are still, if you share citizenship, if you're still, then you have to do something in Canada in the arts of that. But I could be totally wrong.
Nathan Fielder
No, that's not a rule. That's so crazy. No. Can you imagine being like mandated to go back to Vietnam?
Jason Manzoukas
Like some sort of prison? Like, where are you going now? Oh, well, you know, I'm half. You know, I was born in Canada, so I still have Canadian citizenship. So I gotta go up and I gotta make a terrible kid.
Nathan Fielder
So you don't.
Paul Scheer
You don't have to go back to Canada to make a TV show.
Nathan Fielder
No, but for you to get Canadian funding for a movie, it has to be like the mate. The leads in the movie have to be Canadian. Okay.
Jason Manzoukas
So since he qualified for that money.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah. So they'll try to get people. Yeah. So that's why it was definitely community funded.
Paul Scheer
Well, do you want to hear how much money it made? You said it cost 6.5. Which you're right about the opening weekend gross.
Jason Manzoukas
And this is.
June Diane Raphael
This was released in theaters, I guess.
Paul Scheer
But listen to the opening weekend gross. $706. 706. That doesn't even seem possible to me. The lifetime gross is $3,234.
Jason Manzoukas
Whoa. I kinda said it's like Delgo numbers.
Nathan Fielder
Also, this is one of the higher budget movies to come out of Canada in the past decade.
June Diane Raphael
That's a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of money that I did not see.
Paul Scheer
On. Where are you directed in the movie? Not on the.
Jason Manzoukas
Not on extras. Not on the screen.
Nathan Fielder
If you look it up. I mean, telefilm is the place that funds movies in Canada. I wonder what they did kick into
Jason Manzoukas
this because I will tell you, maybe we are. We should investigate.
Nathan Fielder
Or it could have just been he invested his own money, but I don't.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. The writer director, Cony Bear, his name is Conybear 2012. Wilson Cony Bear. He's the writer, producer, creator. He also did shining time station.
June Diane Raphael
$6.5 million on this movie.
Paul Scheer
That is kind of fast.
June Diane Raphael
Locations. There are no extras.
Jason Manzoukas
There are no extras in the movie whatsoever. Except for the students in the classroom scenes.
Paul Scheer
Well, let me ask you this. This is the question that I had before about Canada on Halloween. They make it like they go out to go to the movies on Halloween. And that doesn't seem like.
June Diane Raphael
Is that a tradition?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Is that a thing?
Jason Manzoukas
Explain yourself.
Nathan Fielder
But did the movie take place in Canada?
Paul Scheer
That. I mean, all I know is that
June Diane Raphael
in the supermarket crunch was Halloween though. Do you remember they kept on saying October 31st.
Jason Manzoukas
Yes, that's true.
Paul Scheer
Well, what does that mean?
June Diane Raphael
I don't know.
Paul Scheer
I mean, it clearly was Halloween.
Jason Manzoukas
I mean, it's not called something different in Canada, is it?
Nathan Fielder
It's October 31st day.
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June Diane Raphael
weird thing in that October 31st scene where he. So he goes up to the kid, the bully, the red headed bully who's been, you know, harassing him and Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
I could listen to you say the name Gooby for an hour.
June Diane Raphael
Gooby.
Paul Scheer
Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
It's like the goo you put in
June Diane Raphael
the giu in Gooby actually does become a monster for a moment at the movie. Scares the shit out of the kid, which makes him piss his pants.
Paul Scheer
Well, that was like. That's probably where the 6.5 went because for that moment of CGI where his face Gooby is a. His mouth is not moving. Like whenever he's eating, he's just shoving things to his mouth.
June Diane Raphael
That's what was really. That's honestly the biggest problem I have with this movie. Yeah, it did move a little bit. His mouth did move a little bit.
Jason Manzoukas
Guys, don't fight.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. But not enough so that it seemed like he was talking so little that we're just buying into the fact that
Paul Scheer
it seemed like an air hole that had some give to it or something.
Jason Manzoukas
The ending, I had, like, some real. I got real upset when the ending was Gooby takes the kid, like, stand by me style to like.
Paul Scheer
You want to go see a dead body.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, basically, you want to go see a dead body, but not a dead body. Back to the dad's old. Where the dad grew up, the apartment building his dad grew up in. They find the dad's apartment, fall through a hole in the floor. The dad comes to visit. The scene where the dad goes into his own secret room felt really uncomfortable.
June Diane Raphael
That felt really weird.
Jason Manzoukas
Didn't in all honesty, think the dad's version of Gooby was gonna be there as well?
Paul Scheer
Well, that would make sense.
June Diane Raphael
We all did.
Paul Scheer
Like, the idea would be like that. Cause Gooby also takes the dad into that room. He's like, you know when you're a child and this. I'm not doing the Scottish accent. I apologize.
Jason Manzoukas
But he's like, how do you rob us of it? Because we all know you do a perfect Scottish accent.
Paul Scheer
I don't want to brag. I don't want to. But he's like, when you're a child, you forget things from your youth, and you just forget about it. Oh, this is so great. He's gonna forget about Gooby. No, it was just like, his dad had, like, pictures of trucks and stuff on the wall, and Gooby was not a part of it. Nor did the dad freak out when he saw Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
No, no. He was like, I'm totally cool with this Gooby situation.
Paul Scheer
Like, it was like, oh, you're my kid's toy. But you're like, but you're 8ft tall and you're talking big. You're alive. Yeah, and you're alive. Like, there is no reaction.
Jason Manzoukas
Again, I don't.
Paul Scheer
Maybe he's trying not to be rude.
Jason Manzoukas
I hesitate to go back to something I talked about in Jack Frost, but Gooby eats.
Nathan Fielder
Oh, I know. This is.
Jason Manzoukas
And never shifts. He is full of stuffing.
Paul Scheer
Okay, but wait.
Jason Manzoukas
He cuts his arm and he's full of stuffing. So. Come on, guys.
Paul Scheer
Like, don't you just.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby, there's no organs in there.
Paul Scheer
Well, first of all, you also talk about it like you see normal people. Movie is shit. You never see Tom Cruise take a shit in a movie.
Jason Manzoukas
I do. I do. In almost everything he's in.
Paul Scheer
I'm gonna guess when. Gooby's eating himself in gummy bear form in that sequence in the movie where he was. That's the other thing, too. Gooby has a knowledge of the world that is not.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, he knows what everything is.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. He's never like, what is this? He ends up.
Jason Manzoukas
He's not ET in that sense.
Paul Scheer
I don't think that Gooby's masticating, by the way. I think it's just lying on. He may have a smell because the hot dog is laying on top of the cookies and stuff like that.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
The thing is that. That's what's weird about the movies. We don't know. Did Gooby have other adventures with other kids before Willy?
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, please. I'm sure Gooby's been terrorizing children for a while.
Nathan Fielder
Well, he must have been bought as a toy new from a store, right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
Well, that's actually.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know.
Paul Scheer
Well. Cause I hear he's like Chucky. Like, I think he's like Chucky. Like, you know how Chucky gets the spirit of a serial killer inside of him? Or a killer. Like, Gooby is just a doll. Like, he didn't. He seems like that scarf. And I know that scarf upsets you, but that scarf seems like he is. They make gummy bears out of him. Like he had.
June Diane Raphael
He's. So that's not Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
That wasn't Gooby, though. He says it looks like him, but it's not.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jason Manzoukas
All right.
Nathan Fielder
That's like a clarifying scene that he wasn't a bear. The significance of that. Right. Because he was saying, that's me. They made toys like, they made food like me. And the kid said, no, that's not you. Those are bears. So what if that was a scene in the middle shot that widened from the.
Jason Manzoukas
There was a bunch of. There was a bunch of scenes that I was like, this is an. This is an interminably long scene for nothing to be happening.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, the movie is only an hour, like, 30 minutes at the most, 95 minutes. Yeah. It is a short movie that has a lot of long scenes. I'm also gonna put out on the thing and just see what you guys react to. I think that the kid, Willy, is an unreliable narrator because I don't believe anything that he's saying throughout the whole movie. The one thing.
June Diane Raphael
Voiceover is like. And that's when the trouble started.
Paul Scheer
Well, he did say that. He goes like. He did say the whole thing about the traffic jam. Like we were in traffic. And everyone saw it in traffic. It wasn't traffic. It was a stoplight with three cars at it. And then he also was able to recognize as he was flying past in this flying, like, go kart that his teacher was in one of those cars. But I don't understand how he knew that either. And who is he telling this story to?
Jason Manzoukas
Who is he telling this? No, that little guy. Probably to his therapist, years later, probably. I mean, like, I would love that if it was to the therapist, the scene. Cause the thing. What I was like, I really believe for a good portion of the movie that the reveal was going to be that he. His hallucinations were causing the Gooby doll to come to life, much like Calvin and Hobbes. And then when an adult is in the room, Hobbs is just a stuffed tiger. And when he's not in the room, he's like, you know, Calvin's buddy and partner in crime. Like, when they're on the go kart reminded me of Calvin and Hobbs sledding. Right? But then, so. And I was like, okay. I'm almost willing to buy that the kid who has hallucinations and all this stuff is in a tough time is his imaginary friend. Like, what's the imaginary friend movie? Russell Brand was gonna remake it. Drop Dead, Drop Dead Fred, Drop Dead Ted, whatever.
Paul Scheer
Russell Brand was gonna remake Drop Dead Fred. Oh, my gosh.
June Diane Raphael
I love that movie.
Jason Manzoukas
Like, that. You know, like that kind of imaginary friend movie. But there was a way in which when everybody saw Gooby and Gooby brings everybody together or whatever, that I genuinely was like, I have no fucking clue what's now happening, because now anything is possible. Like, this is a weird magic universe that backs up the kid being, like, having hallucinations and stuff like that all worked out in favor for, like, I was. I'm worried for this kid, basically, guys, I'm worried for Willy.
Paul Scheer
I'm very upset by this whole.
Nathan Fielder
Strangely, I thought the weirdest part of the movie was the Eugene Levy storyline, which I know you were talking about before June a little bit. But that is entirely motivated by him saying in one line, like, really quickly, like, anyone who takes a photo of Gooby will be famous. Yeah, he says that. And that motivates his whole obsession.
Paul Scheer
And it's not even, like, the town.
Jason Manzoukas
That and his love for Canada.
Paul Scheer
Well, he's mandated to work.
Nathan Fielder
He was mandated to do the movie.
Paul Scheer
It's a slavery. But that is interesting because also, the town is not being afflicted by Goobies. It's not like people are like, oh, thank God you found this picture. Like if he was. Again, I will go back and say if he was to hand that picture to someone, someone would go, yeah, that's a guy in a chicken.
June Diane Raphael
Yes, Paul. But the bigger question to me about his character is whereas ET Was something different. Well, he set out, he wrote these three books. He is a teacher. He's in the world of children and probably children's literature.
Paul Scheer
Clearly unsuccessful, unsatisfied.
June Diane Raphael
But it's interesting that he would. He wrote three books that I guess didn't do very well, but it seems like that is sort of in the world of things that he wants to do.
Paul Scheer
Well, he hates Alice Carroll. He was really shitting on.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. But like it's lined up to his profession in a way. And so it's such a huge character leap to just believe that this guy who, that he was writing those books from the get go just to be famous.
Jason Manzoukas
Just to be famous. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
That's crazy. That's really crazy.
Paul Scheer
So he wants to be taught like Alice in Wonderland.
Jason Manzoukas
But I don't even know if that's. I don't even know if that's important to him or if he just wants to be a famous children's book author.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Manzoukas
And then, but then he's, you know, like those kind of folks that we
June Diane Raphael
all know so willing to abort that dream.
Paul Scheer
Wouldn't it be more interesting if you were a teacher to be like, oh my gosh, I'm inspired to write a book about Gooby. And that becomes like the new book.
Jason Manzoukas
Here's what's weird. One of the things that's weird is when on Halloween it begins, I think, but then it recurs a little bit, is Gooby when in public, will frequently pose as Willy's father and they will hold hands.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't like that one bit. I didn't like that one bit.
Paul Scheer
Well, he even says Gooby says the most absurd things.
Jason Manzoukas
I'm this boy father.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't like it.
Jason Manzoukas
And they hold hands a whole lot.
June Diane Raphael
A number of times. Well, and this is the weirdest thing. So the cool kids from school. I actually did think that one actor who played like the super popular boy was great.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, real talent.
June Diane Raphael
So he. So Willie gets in with the cool kids because Gooby posing as his dad got him into the movie.
Paul Scheer
Gooby. Gooby gets him into an R rated movie.
June Diane Raphael
Maybe I'm forgetting what it's like to
Paul Scheer
be 11 year old. Should not be.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, like a Saw type movie or something. Right.
June Diane Raphael
Maybe I'm forgetting what it's like to be a kid. But it also seems like a jump that just because one of your parents is cool, you would be deemed also cool.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, I was super cool because my dad was cool. No, that's lunacy.
June Diane Raphael
That's a crazy thing.
Paul Scheer
Well, it seems like they would want to hang out with Gooby.
June Diane Raphael
Right?
Paul Scheer
I didn't like, at the end of that scene, though, someone after the kids are like, when the kid. You know, the kids think he's really cool and they say, maybe you can join us and play soccer at school tomorrow. That was like, he's in now with the cool kids, which is the most polite inclusion into their group. And Gooby says, I like being your dad. And I think they.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't like that part at all.
Jason Manzoukas
And then later he says, later. I'm pretty sure I imagined him saying, who's your daddy now?
Nathan Fielder
What were your favorite parts?
June Diane Raphael
That's a great question. Okay, there was a line. Well, this is not really my favorite part, but there was a line that I loved, which the dad said in the beginning about why they were moving, like, what had happened in their lives, where he said, you know, change happens all the time. He goes, you remember when Joey's dad and I even started this business? That was a big change. Yeah, that was one of my favorite parts. Because we've never. I don't know who Joey is. We've never even met Joe first at. I don't know what this man does. It was just so absurd. But favorite sincere parts of the movie. I did enjoy some of the, like, the shots from behind of Gooby running because I know Paul and I spent a lot of time on Gooby's ass, but his ass was like. So why do like you like that? It was just satisfying to watch. It was just comedic.
Nathan Fielder
I was like. I feel like that's the. Those are the moments where you kind of. You're more thinking about the man in the costume. And it was just how he's able to.
June Diane Raphael
Some joy to it.
Paul Scheer
Well, the guy in the costume is working hard. I feel like he's really physical and, you know, eating those hot dogs.
Nathan Fielder
I feel like if people. Yeah, if people don't want to watch the movie, but they're interested in seeing some taste of it. I would say if you just watch the supermarket scene, I don't think you need real context for it. And you kind of like, that might be the best or, like, the most interesting part.
Jason Manzoukas
I would watch, like, the. I would watch the first. The reveal of Gooby in the backyard with the rake. I would watch the supermarket scene, and then I would watch from the. From When Willy Falls through the Floor till the end.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Manzoukas
So I would watch. So that's probably, like, max 15 minutes of watching. And you're gonna get some pretty rad stuff.
Paul Scheer
I just want to just. Because I feel like we haven't heard enough Gooby. Can we just hear Gooby talking about how what his name sounds like in the markers here? Just take a listen to this clip just to kind of remember this.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby sounds like Snot.
Nathan Fielder
Snot.
June Diane Raphael
What sounds like snot?
Jason Manzoukas
My name when you were young. So I can't complain. But I always thought it sounded like
June Diane Raphael
great big gobs of snot.
Nathan Fielder
Markers.
Paul Scheer
He loves markers.
Nathan Fielder
I love markers. I don't think you should be.
Jason Manzoukas
I very much think I should. Markers are about the best thing in the world. Next, of course, to those window cookies.
Paul Scheer
So that's kind of character. That lovable character
Jason Manzoukas
that's, like, in this movie. They were like, yep, we got it. That scene cut together. Well.
Paul Scheer
Well, not to, like, reveal the ending, because I don't want to end our conversation, but I do want to just talk about the ending about another thing. At the end of the movie, obviously, the dad sees the error of his ways and decides that he needs to be a better dad. So he quits his job to build a treehouse, which seems a little bit reactionary.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, I thought he was gonna. I thought. He didn't quit his job, by the way.
Jason Manzoukas
He went on sabbatical.
June Diane Raphael
He went on sabbatical. And the man named Raleigh.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Became a partner, apparently. Joey's dad. I'm sorry, Raleigh.
Paul Scheer
It does seem like there are a couple movies going on, and we're just checking.
June Diane Raphael
That's what I'm saying. I think there were a lot of scenes cut in the beginning. I think they added that voiceover later on. I think there was a lot of, like, just seems lifted.
Jason Manzoukas
Well, this was supposed to be a trilogy. This was supposed to be like, by
Paul Scheer
the way, they definitely leave it to that. Because this is what I'm getting to at the end when the dad, like, everything's fine in Willy's household. The dad and him are gonna build a treehouse. Dad's on sabbatical, Raleigh's taking over. And the kid and Gooby are talking as they're leaving Home Depot. At which point. And Eugene Levy has been foiled. At which point Gooby just kind of walks off frame, and they're like, oh, where's Gooby? And we see him creepily staring down a young disillusioned girl who is also in the parking lot. Just also kind of. It doesn't seem like she's being totally neglected by her parents. It just seems like she's in her
June Diane Raphael
head and he's like, she's staring at
Paul Scheer
something and he's like, I. That's.
Jason Manzoukas
I likey.
Paul Scheer
I like her. I like her. I want you to help me put her with her. Which is super creepy.
Jason Manzoukas
So.
Paul Scheer
At which point, another thing that we've never seen happen or referred to. Gooby shrinks down into inanimate stuffed animal form. Stuffed animal form. And then he is. Then the Willy brings it over to the girl.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, here, let me saddle you with. Let me saddle you with a nightmare for the rest of your life.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, it would have been useful for him to do that many different parts of the movie. Yes.
Paul Scheer
To shrink down and become a doll.
June Diane Raphael
Sure. That's a great.
Jason Manzoukas
But I think this is what I think. I think he has to remain as Gooby.
Nathan Fielder
Oh, God.
Jason Manzoukas
I think he has to remain as Gooby until his task is completed and then he can, like, move on. I think that's what it was.
Paul Scheer
Wait, wait. You wait. So you think that
June Diane Raphael
I am realizing
Paul Scheer
only activated by longing of a child?
June Diane Raphael
No, I think you're on something. I think what the movie is actually really about is you're supposed to think the whole time Gooby's there for the kid.
Jason Manzoukas
Right.
June Diane Raphael
And then you realize at the very end, he's really there for their parents.
Jason Manzoukas
He's really there to reunite the kid and the parents, basically.
June Diane Raphael
Okay, but the problem with that is that in the scene with the little girl, they're just focused on the little girl. Like they don't.
Nathan Fielder
Right.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's. But now he can pass on Gooby.
Paul Scheer
Gooby will pay attention to you when your parents won't or when your parents are not. When your parents are not paying attention to you.
Jason Manzoukas
I think that's the idea.
Paul Scheer
Because he says a little bit of
June Diane Raphael
the idea is like, Gooby will also help you with facing your fears.
Paul Scheer
No, because Gooby was equally afraid. Because basically the parents go, yeah, he's not afraid of those hoonies anymore since we moved to this house. I don't know. The logic of this movie is flawed. Cause Gooby just makes the kid piss himself.
Jason Manzoukas
Well, Gooby just. Gooby, when he brings Willy to the apartment building, his dad's apartment building, he says, I think I know why I'm here now. I think I'm supposed to bring you Here, you know, he thinks he recognizes that whole thing. He recognizes that. I felt like that he has been brought to life in order to achieve a purpose or a task.
June Diane Raphael
Jason, earlier on, when Gooby's in the attic and they're looking through all that stuff and they find that photograph of the dad outside this like shack, the kid starts to look at it and Gooby goes, no, no, no, no, not now.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh, interesting.
June Diane Raphael
Did anybody else think that also the, the new house was not that much nicer than the old house.
Jason Manzoukas
It was a little bigger. It was a little bigger. It had that big yard.
Nathan Fielder
What was the reason they moved again?
Jason Manzoukas
Cause they're making bank now.
Nathan Fielder
Is that why?
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah. If the dad went out on his own. Holy cow.
June Diane Raphael
But not on his own since he partnered with Joey's dad.
Jason Manzoukas
Oh yeah, yeah. As a construction company that Gooby winds
Paul Scheer
up at one day. Oh yeah, Gooby doesn't get there.
Jason Manzoukas
Just keep in mind this is a giant monster. This is the craziest thing about the
June Diane Raphael
movie is there there's so many ways to get him there. And the way that they get him there is that something happens at school where.
Paul Scheer
Well, this is. I want to talk about the guy. So they show us a scene of the kids playing soccer after October 31st. After October 31st, that's probably November 1st.
Jason Manzoukas
Happy October 31st. Ooh, scary. October 31st.
Paul Scheer
Well, everyone knows that Halloween is a copyrighted name. You can't say it without paying a lot of money to Halloween. So it's like the birthday song. So the soccer ball is coming down, at which point Willie runs to push Colin, the cool kid that June really likes. And he's like, watch out. And he pushes Colin out of the way and it looks to be like he's gonna take a soccer ball on the head. But. But that somehow seriously injured him. So much like.
June Diane Raphael
No, it didn't.
Paul Scheer
Who did it injure?
Jason Manzoukas
Colin.
Paul Scheer
So wait, I thought that was a miscommunication. So Colin just got injured from falling down cuz Willie pushed him.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know what actually happened. What I do know is this. A message was left on Willie's household answering machine.
Paul Scheer
I know this.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, where they said there's been an accident.
Paul Scheer
Like a head injury.
June Diane Raphael
A head injury. So of course Gooby assumes that it. Well, this is the crazy logic to get Gooby to the construction site. But Gooby assumes it's Willy.
Paul Scheer
So are you telling me that the school called up Willie's house to say another kid in your school got in here today?
Jason Manzoukas
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Yes, because. Yes, because Willie says later on I had to go to the nurse's office
Paul Scheer
with him to be fair.
Jason Manzoukas
Nathan, does that happen in Canada?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Where everyone in the class is called
Jason Manzoukas
notifies all parents when one kid gets hurt.
Nathan Fielder
It's like three person classes. I thought it was Willy, that guy. I didn't get that either, but I was really loosely. Did you guys watch it together?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, we did.
Paul Scheer
We watch it together. Yeah.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah. And you, you watch it?
Jason Manzoukas
I just watched it alone. Like a very sad, A sad man in his 40s who purchased this movie.
Nathan Fielder
And I mean, I don't know if it's more fun or like you guys are discussing it, but like it's an infuriating experience to have to watch that. And like I, it's depressing.
June Diane Raphael
I'm talking about it with some amount of joy. But believe you me, I was very angry at this.
Jason Manzoukas
We do a lot of movies on this show, some of which are unusual.
Nathan Fielder
I know you guys have to do this. Yeah, a lot.
Jason Manzoukas
You know, this was, this felt like punishment, like I. This was retribution of some kind.
Paul Scheer
I will say this. I just found out something interesting. It was produced by John Calvert, who I just googled and he is a famous magician. So I don't know what that means either. But that's a very odd partner to be. He is an American magician. So that's who produced this movie. A weird older magician. June, talk to me about the construction site because I didn't want to cut you off about how he gets there.
June Diane Raphael
Well, no. So there's a message that's left on the home phone of Willie and saying that there's been an injury and Willie's I think in the nurse's office. So the dad happens to be at home and runs out to the car. So of course Goopy thinks he's going to school.
Jason Manzoukas
You're not just full on saying Goopy.
June Diane Raphael
Goopy thinks that he's going to school to be with his son. So to Gooby's surprise, they head to the construction site. And so I think this is all supposed to further our idea of like this dad really doesn't give a fuck about his son. But then what we'll find out later is that his son was never hurt.
Jason Manzoukas
Correct, Colin was. Cause Gooby says, how's your head?
June Diane Raphael
Right. But did the dad know that or did the dad knowingly neglect his son?
Jason Manzoukas
Yes. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I think probably he doesn't. I think probably a little bit of both, but I think probably not, not full on neglect.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Jason Manzoukas
But they are neglecting him. They're passively neglecting him. But I think if he was. If true trauma had occurred, I feel like they would have jumped into action.
June Diane Raphael
But why do you think they didn't have any other kids?
Jason Manzoukas
Oh. Cause I think he got a vasectomy. I think he got a vasectomy. But I think. You know what I think? I think he cheats. I think he's fucking. I think he's a real cheat.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. There was something about his newfound love of like.
Jason Manzoukas
I felt like his reveal was gonna be that he wasn't going to work. Work all the time. He was like, boning somebody else.
Nathan Fielder
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Manzoukas
And then. Cause. Right. Cause he's like, doesn't come home for the kids on Halloween.
June Diane Raphael
He cancels the family vacation.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Guys, I'm really.
Jason Manzoukas
Did you guys. Were you guys worried as soon to be parents? Was this like a real wake up call for you in terms of parenting style?
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
It was a cautionary tale. It's like if Gooby shows up at some point.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, we know.
June Diane Raphael
We have not done a good job.
Paul Scheer
Well, look, we also learned something really important, that boys don't need things. They need parents.
Jason Manzoukas
They need dads.
Paul Scheer
I will tell you this. I just was looking. I'm doing some research.
Jason Manzoukas
You better fucking build a fort or a tree house with your son or they're gonna spend the rest of their life.
Paul Scheer
By the way, I'm gonna take a break to do that.
June Diane Raphael
Can I just say one thing, though? Willie was not the one that wanted the fort.
Jason Manzoukas
Yes, he did.
June Diane Raphael
So both Willie and his dad both wanted forts.
Jason Manzoukas
They both wanted forts that both of their fathers did not give them.
June Diane Raphael
Specific.
Jason Manzoukas
Yeah, it was like. That's exactly what it was.
Nathan Fielder
Fort. Gene.
Jason Manzoukas
I say Willie's was supposed to be like a space fort or something, Right.
Paul Scheer
He had a very big space.
Nathan Fielder
He also said forts are in trees, right?
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Nathan Fielder
And that's not true, right? No. Yeah. Because we made forts.
Paul Scheer
You can make forts anywhere. Yeah.
Jason Manzoukas
Tree houses are in trees. But I assumed in Canada that was the thing.
Paul Scheer
I looked on IMDb, like the ratings on IMDb, to see who liked this movie the most. And I will tell you the number one, the Highest rating are females, 30 to 44.
Jason Manzoukas
Oof.
Paul Scheer
And males, 45 plus. Those are the two. Those are the two demos that it spiked in.
Jason Manzoukas
Wow.
Paul Scheer
Which is very interesting. Now, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are other people who thought better. Now it is time for a second opinion.
Jason Manzoukas
Second opinions from top to bottom. Crazy movies.
June Diane Raphael
They're not your first but they're gonna be your second.
Paul Scheer
From the tips of Amazon they come second opinions for everyone. Second opinions. Alright, so these are five star reviews culled from Amazon. Here we go. This is from Cool dude. There weren't many 5 star reviews for a movie that made 3000. So here we go. This is the first time I ordered from Amazon.com received the item as described in the mail very quickly. DVD was reasonably priced. I'll be making more purchases. 5 stars for a Gooby that does not really. So the delivery service of Amazon should be getting the five stars really. And then this one is by B. Reed from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I rented this off of on demand for my cable provider for my 3 year old son. Although I did not enjoy it that much, he loved it and has begged me to watch it over and over again. So six months later and after repeatedly renting it from my cable provider, I'm breaking down to buy it for him. Cause he won't stop begging to watch it. 5 stars.
Jason Manzoukas
5 stars for a 3 year old.
Paul Scheer
For a 3 year old who mom hates it.
June Diane Raphael
I would say too this. It's not like the look of Gooby. I found it to be terrifying. I found it to be terrifying. It's not a. I can't imagine that kid. Well, from behind, you know, as I said before, I didn't enjoy him.
Jason Manzoukas
You're obsessed with Gooby's monster butt. It's so weird, playful.
Nathan Fielder
Well, the proportion of the head to the body too. Because on the original doll it's a big head and a small body. And then on the real when he gets big it's a big body and a tiny head.
Paul Scheer
I want to just play this one clip. This is the end narration of the boy saying goodbye to Gooby. And I found this to be amazing. Coupled with the song, the Gooby song at the end too, which we haven't talked about. But here's the end narration. Take a listen.
June Diane Raphael
Final and most important rule of having a big fuzzy wench monster. Realizing what you leave behind. What I mean is Kubi may have gone on, but he left me with all sorts of stuff like how to build a space car, the best way to go grocery shopping and how to defeat the hoonies.
Paul Scheer
None of these things.
June Diane Raphael
How to be a friend. Oh, and he gave me something else as well. He gave me back my dad. And maybe because of that crabs. Because when it comes to family, where we belong isn't a place. It's with each other.
Paul Scheer
Oh shit, that. By the way, that sounds like the end of A movie. He did not help him with the hoonies.
Nathan Fielder
Nope.
Paul Scheer
He did not help him to go supermarket shopping the right way. The way of going supermarket shopping was just eating everything in the aisles, basically stealing. He didn't do any of that stuff. Would you guys rec. Well, I think we've already covered this, but would you recommend this movie?
Jason Manzoukas
I really would not. I really would not. This was upsetting.
Paul Scheer
I don't want to put you in jeopardy with Canada at all, Nathan, but.
Nathan Fielder
Well, I'm like, I'm wondering, I mean, did you know the director hasn't. You know, I'm sure he's going to listen to this, right? Like, I'm sure he's.
Jason Manzoukas
You think he's got a Google alert
Nathan Fielder
for his first feature for Gooby, I just looked at IMDb. I don't think he's worked since the movie, but he's been in the Canadian TV industry since 1981.
Paul Scheer
He created a show called Majority Rules in 2009, the same year as Gooby. But it looks like that show is canceled. Monster Warriors.
June Diane Raphael
I wouldn't put all of this on the director. I mean, I think there's.
Nathan Fielder
He wrote it too.
Paul Scheer
He produced it with a magician.
Jason Manzoukas
Here's a very real reality, and this is for the sake of our audience. If we. Through very little action, the audience of. How did this get made? Through renting this on. What was it? Amazon?
Paul Scheer
Amazon or it. Itunes.
Jason Manzoukas
It's on itunes or itunes. We could match the.
Paul Scheer
We could double it.
Jason Manzoukas
We could match the amount of money this made in theaters, through rentals very easily. We could double the amount of money this movie has made. And I will challenge our audience now
Paul Scheer
just to give it back to the people of Canada, just to give it
Jason Manzoukas
back to those people and to show that this director. Writer. Director. Deserves another shot. Maybe a Gooby two.
Paul Scheer
I would love a Gooby two. Gooby.
Jason Manzoukas
Gooby two. Where are you?
Nathan Fielder
That one's a good idea.
Jason Manzoukas
You don't think that's a good idea? What if. What if. Only 11.
Paul Scheer
Only 11,000 people need to rent this on itunes to double the gross.
Jason Manzoukas
Only 11,000. Now we get. We get plenty of those people. So fucking step up, everybody. And now I guess there's no way to track this. So maybe on Facebook we can put up a little thing or on Twitter we can make a hashtag that's like, I rent Gooby.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I rent a Gooby. Yeah, Yeah, I have a rent now.
Jason Manzoukas
That's the thing. If some of you buy Guby, it's even fewer people because that's like 9.99.
Paul Scheer
Exactly.
June Diane Raphael
And I'm not. I'm not upset that I saw Gooby. You know, that I watched it.
Jason Manzoukas
That's very ringing endorsement.
June Diane Raphael
I could have a conversation about it.
Jason Manzoukas
There's a pull quote right there. For the, for the, for the dvd. I am not upset that I saw Gooby June Diana.
Nathan Fielder
If I wasn't doing this, I would be upset that I watched it.
Paul Scheer
We should point out, by the way, that the dad is. This is a star. I realize why women, older women like this. The dad is the star of jag. That's one of my grandma's favorite TV shows.
Nathan Fielder
Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer
So I would imagine if for you JAG fanatics out there for you, JAG Henry.
Jason Manzoukas
Or are they called the Jag Offs?
Paul Scheer
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Podcast Release Date: August 4, 2026
Main Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Special Guest: Nathan Fielder
In this episode, the "How Did This Get Made?" team (Paul, June, Jason) are joined by comedian Nathan Fielder to break down one of the strangest children's movies to come out of Canada: Gooby (2009). The group untangles the baffling choices, unsettling moments, and surprisingly dark undertones of this "family" film about a boy and his seven-foot-tall, terrifying teddy bear friend. With a mix of genuine confusion and sharp wit, they debate what Gooby was trying to achieve, its deeply odd plot, and why anyone thought it needed to be made.
Watch only a few key scenes for the experience:
Otherwise, spare yourself—but if you’re committed, the hosts challenge fans to double Gooby’s lifetime box office gross by renting it online as a public service to the Canadian arts community. [65:38]
Gooby is a baffling, deeply strange, and unsettling children’s film best enjoyed (if at all) with a group; the podcast panel’s comedic confusion, incredulity, and horror make for a hilarious and insightful breakdown. For those fascinated by cinematic oddities, this episode (and Gooby’s “monster butt”) will not disappoint.
“There’s a pull quote right there for the DVD… ‘I am not upset that I saw Gooby.’” —Jason Mantzoukas [65:57]