Grizzly II: Revenge w/ Jake Johnson

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – "Grizzly II: Revenge" w/ Jake Johnson

Podcast: How Did This Get Made?
Hosts: Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas (June Diane Raphael absent)
Guest: Jake Johnson
Date: October 3, 2025
Episode Focus: "Grizzly II: Revenge" (2020, cobbled together from 1983 footage)

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Episode Overview

The HDTGM crew—Paul, Jason, and guest Jake Johnson (standing in for June)—do a deep, comedic autopsy on "Grizzly II: Revenge," an 80s-era disaster resurrected for modern audiences. The trio marvel at its haphazard construction, wild production history, and baffling choices, but quickly get delightfully sidetracked into a running riff about Hollywood's "Geek Squad" generation of young actors. In true HDTGM fashion, the episode oscillates between genuine analysis of bad cinema and uproarious tangents that become a feature, not a bug.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Making (and Remaking) of "Grizzly II"

• A 37-Year Journey:

  • Filmed in 1983 but not released until 2020—truly a movie "cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies." (02:57 - Jake Johnson)
  • Big rock concert scenes are from a real 1983 festival in Hungary, attended by nearly 50,000 people.
  • Producer Joseph Ford Proctor absconded with the budget after shooting the concert, leaving the film unfinished for decades.
  • Hungarian authorities seized the crew’s equipment as unpaid bills mounted.
  • Final "movie" is a Frankenstein of old film, new drone shots, and random modern footage.

• Casting Before Fame:

  • Young George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen feature in the cold open—primarily due to nepotistic connections, not stardom. (11:09 – Jason Mantzoukas, Jake Johnson)
  • Their only job: die in the opening. Subsequent edits moved their scene earlier to capitalize on their later fame.

• Patchwork Structure:

  • At least 35 minutes of the runtime is concert footage and animal b-roll. (04:01 – Jake Johnson)
  • Modern musical acts inserted into 80s footage, causing wild tonal and visual whiplash.

• Production Absurdities:

  • The bear was portrayed by a Hungarian mime, not David Prowse (of Darth Vader fame), who auditioned but wasn’t hired. (65:31 – Paul Scheer)
  • All animatronic bears were lost, some in a warehouse fire.

• "Plot" and Performances:

  • The story is mostly incoherent, with random threads about rangers, poachers, and the world's least functional pop festival.
  • John Rhys-Davies’ character, Bouchard—a white man adopting a pseudo-Native persona after a bear tragedy—is a particular highlight of oddness. (13:02 – Paul Scheer)

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2. The Group’s Hilarious Reactions

• Acting Quality:

  • “This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. The main guy and the blonde lady… this can't be on planet Earth.” (11:50 – Jake Johnson)
  • Bouchard’s monologue sampled for its baffling intensity. (12:21 – Audio clip)

• The Concert Setting:

  • The concert performances are bizarre, spanning real bands (Nazareth) to a modern wedding band visually out of sync with the 80s crowd.
  • "Shot super close with no microphones and they're performing to 100,000 people with the guy has a little bit of a ponytail..." (04:47 – Jason)

• Romantic Subplots:

  • Sudden, unearned romance between a park ranger’s daughter and a performer elicits confusion.
  • “When did they fall in love such that he's now being a… who is he?” (19:32 – Jake Johnson)
  • Inadvertently creepy dynamic between the lead male and his daughter, with too-close-for-comfort dialogue—“Do you go for Daddy?” (22:49 – Jake, Paul, Jason)

• Poachers’ Absurdity:

  • The poacher gang is preoccupied with bear gallbladders for aphrodisiac sale—“All they want is the money and the boners.” (33:23 – Jake Johnson)
  • Mourning a brother’s death quickly transitions to profit calculations.

• Bear Effects:

  • "The bear doesn't move...it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or background of shots and having the... whatever.” (53:35 – Jake Johnson)
  • Concert continues unfazed as the world's worst special effects bear ambles by.

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3. The Geek Squad Tangent – Birth of a (Fake) Hollywood Moniker

Throughout the episode, the hosts invent and perpetuate the idea of Hollywood’s “Geek Squad,” a tongue-in-cheek name for the current crop of young actors (Timothée Chalamet, Austin Butler, Jacob Elordi, Jenna Ortega, Sydney Sweeney, etc.). This bit quickly becomes the dominant thread:

• Criteria and Debate:

  • Who qualifies as Geek Squad vs. just adjacent?
  • "Margaret Qualley, Geek Squad." “She feels Geek Squad big time.” (44:15)
  • Musicians (e.g., Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift) are “adjacent,” not true members.
  • Jennifer Lawrence dubbed the "godmother" or "forebear" of Geek Squad.
  • “She walked so Geek Squad could run.” (60:42 – Jason Mantzoukas)

• Running Gag:

  • Heavy self-aware meta-commentary on their own tangent—“Are we just jealous of younger actors?” (65:17 – Jake Johnson)
  • “It sounds terrible coming from us.” (72:28 – Jake Johnson)
  • Ongoing brainstorming about launching the term into Hollywood via Deadline/DeuxMoi and seeing if it catches on without referencing its podcast origin.

• Fan Casting:

  • Speculative recasting of Grizzly II with Geek Squad members:
    • Bouchard: Jacob Elordi or, in a gender-flipped version, Sydney Sweeney
    • Ranger: Jeremy Allen White (before they decide he's actually too old for Geek Squad)
    • Daughter: Jenna Ortega
    • Poacher crew: Nicholas Hoult, Jacob Elordi, maybe Sydney Sweeney
  • “I want to see Sydney Sweeney as a lady poacher... you get Sydney Sweeney, one of the greatest looking actresses of the game, you got her in a black weird wig and a beard…” (57:41 – Jason Mantzoukas)

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4. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the movie structure:

  • “This certainly feels like a movie that was cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies.” (02:57 – Jake Johnson)

• On George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen’s brief roles:

  • "Three people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like, just cast aside in the cold open." (11:28 – Jake Johnson)

• Jake’s summary of the poachers:

  • “All they want is the money and the boners. That’s it.” (33:23 – Jake Johnson)

• On the sudden romance subplot:

  • “When did they fall in love such that he's now being a...who is he?” (19:32 – Jake Johnson)

• Opening the tangent floodgates:

  • "I do feel like America is currently in its poacher era." (32:34 – Jake Johnson)

• Meta-commentary on the episode's digressions:

  • “Is this not the perfect type of episode for Grizzly 2? A Stitch Together movie. No through line. That all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83. Then you're in a karaoke video and a guy. What am I literally watching?” (67:34 – Jason Mantzoukas)

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5. Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro to Movie/Production History: 01:29–07:15
• Explaining the Clooney/Sheen/Dern casting and editing chaos: 08:09–11:28
• John Rhys-Davies (Bouchard) performance highlights: 12:05–14:14
• Bear effects & missing bear animatronics: 14:33, 53:31–53:59
• Geek Squad origin and riff: 39:49–62:29 (threaded throughout, especially 41:29+ and 55:32+)
• Speculative Geek Squad recasting: 55:32–58:48
• Self-aware reflection on the tangent: 65:02–68:15

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Conclusion & Takeaways

Though they intended to dissect the nonsensical "Grizzly II: Revenge," the episode becomes a showcase of how a staggeringly bad movie can prompt an even more free-range, hilarious, and meta conversation. The Geek Squad riff will likely outlive the memory of Grizzly II itself. The hosts, especially with Jake Johnson’s energy, revel in the absurdities, both onscreen and off, ending with a full acceptance that sometimes the best way to engage with incompetently made art is to let your brain wander.

Final note:
"If you are a first-time listener, this is a little different than what we normally do. So I encourage you to check out another episode if you'd like..." (76:59 – Paul Scheer)

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Suggested Listening Approach

If you’re here for a “Grizzly II” breakdown, the first half hour is prime. If you love the crew’s legendary tangents, the “Geek Squad” saga and absurdist group riffs make this episode an instant classic—regardless of your interest in killer bear movies.

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Additional Resources

• How Did This Get Made? (Official Site)
• We’re Here To Help (Jake’s Podcast)

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jake Johnson]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jake Johnson]

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[Paul Scheer]

Prices and participation may vary. Is this movie a game, a laugh, a joke? Yeah, it is. We saw Grizzly 2 the Revenge, so you know what that means. Now it's time for how to Disconnect. We're gonna have a good time celebrating.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Failure, not just be a hater. Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this Get Made?

[Paul Scheer]

Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to how did this Get Made? Today we are talking about Grizzly 2 the Revenge. But before we get into that, I want to let you all know that how did this Get Made? And Dinosaur are going on the road. That's right. Jason and I will be In Boston, Philly, New York, and D.C. we have amazing special guests like Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones and Danielle Schneider from Garbage World, as well as Rob Riggle and Mary Holland. It's gonna be a blast. Get your [e-mail] now. Boy, oh, boy. We got a movie for you. A movie 37 years in the making. That's right. This movie was just released in 2020. Oh, whoa. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, that makes a lot of my confusion. Make sense.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, just if. In case you haven't seen it, and I do recommend that you do see it, because this, every now and then we come across one that is pure perfection. And this is definitely one of those movies. All hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly reacts to the slaughter of his babies or her babies and attacks a massive big band rock concert in a national park. That, that's the premise. We'll break it all down. But first let me introduce my co host, Jason Manzoukas. Jason, how are you? Wow.

[Jake Johnson]

Wow. We did it. We, we, we've done. We really. I, I, I don't know if we've reached the end of all of our bad. This certainly feels like a movie that was cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, and it kind of is. And I will.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, that's what I'm. Yeah, that's what I'm guessing at. But, but yes. Let's get, let's jump right in.

[Paul Scheer]

This week we do not have our other co host June Diane Rayfield with us, but we have found someone to replace her.

[Jake Johnson]

A suitable replacement.

[Paul Scheer]

A suitable replacement. That's right. He is the co host of the very popular podcast. We are here to help. Please welcome Jake Johnson. Jake. Thank you guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you guys. Well, what, what a movie, you guys. Holy shit.

[Jake Johnson]

You're welcome.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, whenever we have a guest for the first time on the show, I'm like, oh, they may be upset when they have to sit down and watch it. But I was like, we gave Jake a gift. It's not even, it's only an hour and 14 minutes. It's not even an hour 20.

[Jake Johnson]

Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Six minutes of credits.

[Jake Johnson]

And, and I'm going to honestly say I'm pretty sure I watched at least 35 minutes of the concert.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like a lot of concert footage.

[Jake Johnson]

Concert footage and B roll of just animals in the wilderness.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about the new Fake band? The Modern Band? It was first of all the concert when there was those ladies from the these 80s vibe.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, I love this concert. This is a home run.

[Jake Johnson]

Yep. Like an 80s new wave. Like I believe, like Russian.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

I believe they're, they're singing in Russian.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But like the sexy, weird hip dances. That is so like not sexy. But you're like, I don't know. There was a time when like Jane Fond did it.

[Jake Johnson]

Love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's working.

[Jake Johnson]

I loved all of it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Me too.

[Jake Johnson]

But, but you're right. The Modern Band.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then all of a sudden in the middle, it's like a wedding band from.

[Jake Johnson]

2010 who are shot super close with no microphones and they're performing to 100,000 people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With the guy has a little bit of a ponytail and like, who'd you cast?

[Paul Scheer]

Now, I will say this. This was a real. This was real. This was a real concert in Hungary. So these are. Wait, yes. These are hunger.

[Jake Johnson]

First, the big concert was a real car. You mean the big one there'?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then there's the additive stuff that the distributor did in 2019 to make money off of a partner in Chucky Sheen. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so this is what happened back in 83, 1983. The filmmakers created this massive musical festival in Hungary called the Beast Festival. So that's what we're seeing. And man, this was.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, so, yeah, so I'm sorry, just to. Just to like pull that string a little bit. Paul, you're saying that people were hired to shoot the a, like a concert video like Woodstock. Then they made the Charlie Sheen Clooney, Laura Dern thing around the concert are those separate elements that were then wedded together. And okay, then the extra, the modern footage, the drone footage, was because the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Movie was 80 minutes and they can't sell an 80.

[Jake Johnson]

And that's not legally a movie, I believe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think you got to be 88 minutes to get paid as a feature. Contractually, that's my guy who has made little Indies. And at like 83 minutes, you're like, it counts. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, I remember. I'm pretty sure they added two minutes of bloopers to the dictator to legally.

[Paul Scheer]

Make it a movie. All right, this is. This is what I know. And this is Scott. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Scott, our producer, found this great article in the Ringer about the making of the movie written by Brian Rafferty. He did an amazing job. So the first thing that they filmed was this huge concert created just for this movie. Almost 50,000 people attended, which made it one of the largest concerts in ever held in Eastern Europe. The concert, right, was completely real. Nazareth was the headline.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, okay. Nazareth, which is like a real, you know, 70s, 80s.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They just did a concert.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. No, the concert was the first thing that they filmed. And then they paid for it from the money raised by this conman, producer, Joseph Ford Proctor. But the very first day they began shooting the non concert scenes, Proctor ghosted them and took off with the rest of the money that he raised.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So he's just. He's a weird Robin Hood.

[Jake Johnson]

Some of it away and then disappears. This is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, okay.

[Paul Scheer]

I. Spanish for many years and was living in Thailand. He was convicted for fraud.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You didn't have to say that.

[Paul Scheer]

We knew that's where everyone goes. But yeah, like that, that opening of this idea that this, this is a. This is a movie that was kind of bamboozled and yes, I think across the board, look, this is a movie called Grizzly 2 based on the very successful Grizzly. Not really, but it was based on Grizzly one.

[Jake Johnson]

I started to feel like, is there a Grizzly One? Are any of these people from that movie?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, there. Well, not from that movie. No, no, it is.

[Jake Johnson]

There's no carryover.

[Paul Scheer]

There's no carryover.

[Jake Johnson]

Sorry, Paul. I'm so sorry to. I have, I'm going to be honest, nothing but questions. This is. Yes, all of my notes are just questions. So.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

So when. When Clooney, Dern and sheen shot their 1 1/2 scenes.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. By the way, this movie opens with. And we'll break it all down because this movie opens with Will like, well, I don't know if we'll get the answers, but we'll at least ask questions. The movie opens with, like starring, you know, and it's George Clooney.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It also ends the first. It's George Clooney's photo at the end.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And so they think like, okay, well, it's George Clooney, Laura Dern, Charlie Sheen. And I'm thinking, okay, I worked at Blockbuster when I was a kid and in, you know, and I remember there was like an Adam Sandler movie like, called like Going Overboard. He has like one scene, but they put him on the COVID box. But this movie, it seems like they didn't even want to trust you to wait until like 10 minutes and they open up a scene on these three people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got a. I got a quick question that really threw me off. Did you guys also see the Charlie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

I haven't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, so there's a scene in there, Jason, that pissed me off while watching it and then pissed me off more while watching Grizzly 2. Charlie Shane was offered this part in Grizzly Man 2 Total Dog. He said yes. They needed him for seven days. Can't figure out why.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe just a fly to Budapest.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He then got offered the part of Karate Kid. Oh, no, he was going to be Karate Kid. His dad, an old school purist, said, all you've got is your word. So he passed on being the Karate Kid to be in this. I mean, and the story was almost like I was mad at my dad for a long time, but that integrity. And I'm like, no, that's just bad for Grizzly 2.

[Paul Scheer]

For Grizzly 2. And now talk about. No, it's not a movie and you pass. So, you know, later on, was the.

[Jake Johnson]

Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern. Was there supposed to be more or was this the sum total? They get murdered. Like all three of these future superstars are cast just to die in the old in the cold open.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. So. So, so originally that scene was going to be later in the film. That's why about 20 minutes into the movie or so, we see the national park staff discover the bodies of the three dead teenagers. Because in the original cut of the movie, they had just been killed in the scene before. All right, so this is kind of weird, right? So it wasn't until years later that the film's remaining producer, Suzanne Nagy, re edited the movie and then moved the Clooney, Dern and Sheen scene to the beginning once they all became huge stars. Oh. Now the screenwriter did say that the only reason that they were hired was because of nepotism and they thought that if they use these names that would help the box off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who's clue connected to?

[Jake Johnson]

Rosemary.

[Paul Scheer]

Rosemary.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, right.

[Paul Scheer]

And I guess on a level of a movie like this, it was enough to give it like something. Right. So they were. They were gaming the system.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's fascinating.

[Paul Scheer]

They said, yeah, their auditions are fine, but the reason why they were hired was to help like game the box office.

[Jake Johnson]

That's so fascinating to me because it seemed so odd to me that before they were anywhere near stars, the three people who would become that maybe this is just truly an indictment of nepotism inside of this business. But the people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like, just cast aside in the cold open.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wouldn't call it nepotism. Jason, did you see the other acting in this movie? This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. The main guy and the blonde lady, when they were doing their scenes, I honestly felt like, this can't be on planet Earth.

[Paul Scheer]

No, I mean, they're not real humans here. John Rhys Davies, who I love, you know, obviously from Raiders of the Lost Ark, Sliders. I've been in a bunch of great stuff. He is doing something. At a certain point I'm like, should I be offended by what he's doing?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's a special character here.

[Paul Scheer]

Take a listen to John Rhys Davies. They say that Grizzly was created by the great Manitou. But Grizzly grew to be so strong that even Manitou himself had to flee to escape him. In the beginning. Bear walk on two legs like a Man, in those days, he killed his prey with clubs and not with teeth and claws. You really believe that garbage, don't you? Grizzly is a beast from hell. If you do not know that now, you will someday.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's an Alzheimer.

[Paul Scheer]

When they establish later on that, well, he actually was just a normal guy who went nuts and now thinks he's a native American after a bear killed.

[Jake Johnson]

His wife and daughters.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pretty awesome, I will say, pretty awesome storyline.

[Jake Johnson]

I know. Jake, you texted me and said you're going to go as Bouchard for Halloween.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just because I have every year since 2000.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, Bouchard really is a great character. And I did think I was like, did they like retcon his backstory? Because, you know, John Rhys Davies probably got this idea, like, I'm doing this. And then they were all like, okay. Like there's a moment where the lead actor literally takes a knee because it's like, well, I can't compete with whatever John Rhys Davies is doing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about when he moves the tree?

[Paul Scheer]

He moves the tree with his bare hands. Incredible.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's the strongest man on planet Earth.

[Paul Scheer]

I want to answer some of these questions and I can also break down some things in the movie just so you guys I have a clearer answer on some of this stuff. Okay. About this producer. So basically he took the money from the film. He didn't even tell the other producer. Instead, he let that producer's husband tell her that he just ran off with the money. He was jailed later for other shady business.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You don't have to say that part.

[Paul Scheer]

We all assumed it got that. And now this movie was made in Budapest and the Hungarian government seized all the film equipment because they didn't pay their bills. And as a result, they never got a chance to do post production on it. They even took the bears. And so, yeah, love ind.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what we were saying earlier, we all got in the bloat business when we all got in this game. The other business I wanted to get into is this business.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wanted to be in a movie in Budapest and have they somebody come to my hotel room and go, there is no movie. And I go, why? And they go, they confiscated the bears, everything.

[Jake Johnson]

And the bears are gone.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you for so much for the opportunity, gentlemen. This was a really fun 10 day.

[Jake Johnson]

I mean, and by the way, everything, all the film is missing.

[Paul Scheer]

As well it should be.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This was the worst project I've ever been a part of.

[Paul Scheer]

45 Days this movie. They started shooting in Hungary months after Ronald Reagan declared the Russia as an evil empire. And they were shooting it on a military base and they were apparently surrounded by secret police the entire time of the shooting, which is now I'm like, is this an Argo situation where they like, was this like a chance to get in and. Yes. So this movie then toiled for many years in 87. Our friends at Canon Film Group who've made all the movies that we've talked about on this show, they were like, we're gonna re. We're gonna finish this up. But then they had to ditch it when they went bankrupt. So everything has kind of gone bad on this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who is the group that just resoed. There's a group that came in recently.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And said with those three stars at the beginning, we could sell it to Netflix for at least $250,000.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's the Gravitas Pictures. Gravitas, who are big in the indie game. They're the ones who. They bought it and they. And I think that they were like, this is weird enough that it could be like a bird. I think this is me now adding my own thing to it. Like, it could be a birdemic. Like. Well, we. They. They were able to re edit it all together, put some bare footage back in. You know, they stitched it together just to kind of make sense. Even though. Yeah, I mean, stitching is dog.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, the. The difference between. Yeah, the 80s footage and the. They. They shoot a bunch of like modern stuff. Like modern drone shots. Modern. They shoot a bunch of a modern musical music festival where people are wearing like tie dye and all sorts of like modern logo shirts and stuff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also the nature footage at the beginning.

[Jake Johnson]

I was like, is so funny.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's so funny. There's.

[Jake Johnson]

It's so crisp.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, but there's like, why not just make a weird 72 minute movie like the. During the concert, there was those two old guys in white jackets playing something. Yeah, I was hard laughing. But then when it cuts to like the karaoke footage of the Modern band, something about it pissed me off.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, well, I'll tell you, this modern band, by the way, they're a band called the Days and they're performing their song the Planet. Now here's the thing. All right, this was from a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Please tell me they're here today.

[Jake Johnson]

Welcome to the stage now the Days.

[Paul Scheer]

That, that. That track is from 2016, far away off from 1983. And on a comment on the YouTube video of their song, it says the footage was requested by a company, but they didn't know what it was going to be used for. So they unwillingly gave like they didn't know. They didn't know that that's how they were signed.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A contract they didn't read. They're like 17 pages. And then somebody goes, how much? And they go, 500 bucks. And they go, click, sign.

[Paul Scheer]

Done. Just take it, do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm going to be in Grizzly 2. It's a concert from 1983. We made it in 2016.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So it looks like time travel.

[Jake Johnson]

It is so confused, I will say. Like if I had stumbled on this. Yeah, it was so, you know, it was so confusing to watch this patchwork quilt of footage from different eras of. Of filmmaking. So it is also visually, the visual storytelling is all over the place. They're making cuts, time jumps. They're making cut.

[Paul Scheer]

The bear bullet time in.

[Jake Johnson]

The bear doesn't move. The bear cannot move.

[Paul Scheer]

The bears all by the way, also burned up in a warehouse fire in Hungary after the film was made.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'll tell you another thing that really threw me off and had stuck with me is the. The young daughter storyline when she falls in love with the musician. But there was no setup.

[Jake Johnson]

When did that happen?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All of a sudden she's doing a scene and he like, everything's just a laugh. And she's like, what am I? And I'm like, did I miss a 40 minute arc?

[Paul Scheer]

A relationship came out of the blue. But that scene is perfection. I just want to listen to it for a second. What's wrong? Nothing. Nothing at all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just. I just wanted to say we've had.

[Paul Scheer]

Such fun together and I like you a lot. But I'm nothing. I'm just a gypsy, a clown, a juggler. I go from town to town, I do my show and then I'm gone. It's all a game, a laugh, a joke.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Am I a game, a laugh and a joke?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

When did they fall in love such that he's now being a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who is he?

[Paul Scheer]

It seems to all take place in a day. And what I really love about that scene is that he touches his fedora like Hamlet looking at the skull, you know, and is like he look, it's funny. It's like a funny like actor's choice to look at that fedora. And the fedora represents.

[Jake Johnson]

I bet his lines were written on the fedora.

[Paul Scheer]

Also this politician who's involved here, she's like, she.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You mean Nurse Ratched?

[Paul Scheer]

Nurse Ratched, who said she's like. I took this job because I'm 50 and no one offered me any Work when I was 50.

[Jake Johnson]

Also all notice an uncredited Tim Spall.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[Jake Johnson]

British actor Tim Spall. Mike Lee, favorite Tim Spall. Wow. Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movies. When Nurse Ratched comes up and says, we need to go over there, and he says, you can't come in here, and he's got his arm in a cast. It's like a very young Tim Spall.

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Jake Johnson]

Look, nobody allowed in here.

[Paul Scheer]

I think you've made a mistake. This is Senator and Mrs. Thornton, no matter who they are. What's your name?

[Jake Johnson]

Rob.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow, that's cool.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, there's so much in here that's also in the.

[Jake Johnson]

Based on what we were just talking about, though, can we assume that the movie wants us to believe there was a love story between the daughter of the Ranger and that pop star that we were just talking about? Who's on stage? Is it possible they shot scene. Are there more scenes for this movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If there are more scenes and they chose not to put it in.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everything is in this new footage.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're the biggest idiots in the game.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I mean, this is a movie that is. I. I feel like it's inept in every way. They did not like anything that they had. They used.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Clearly, they probably did shoot it. And when their film got stolen by the Hungarian government, it got lost.

[Paul Scheer]

I bet they cut it out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or they cut it out. But also the scene then when that girl is with her dad, who I did not realize was her dad, the main guy with the beard, and all of a sudden it's like, it's shot kind of sexy by the jeep. And I was like, oh, is she gonna go after, like, the cool lead guy? Because I thought he was gonna go after the blonde lady. And then all of a sudden, she goes like, hey, Daddy, I'll make you proud. I'm a good little girl. I was like, what the fuck am I watching?

[Jake Johnson]

The same age.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They seem like, this is terrible, right? You imagine being on that set with that director one more time, say, I'm a very good girl.

[Jake Johnson]

Like, ew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just.

[Paul Scheer]

This is why. I also feel like. It's also the actors feeling like they could say whatever they want. Like, we're going to improvise here. Like, we'll have a little flirty thing. Because probably in real life, they were a little bit close in age, right? Because then she's saying, like, you know, there's something about it where I feel like they don't know or like there was enough people there. That no one was like, there was no script supervisor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a really funny idea. Two actors who are improvising and they don't realize their father and daughter, but the old guy's like, look at you, sweetheart. You look wonderful. They were in a video village. Is like, it's a very sexual vibe.

[Paul Scheer]

He says that thing. He goes, do you go for daddy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're a gopher.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Jake Johnson]

You go for this, you go for that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You go for your old man in a big way.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, yeah, we have a kiss.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, do you go for dad? Or like what? Like, that's a weird thing because she's gonna be a gopher. You go for this. You go, you go for Daddy. I was like, oh, I felt weird. Never should you talk to your daughter like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was like, the actor is like, look, I'm the lead of this movie. Would you like to get dinner?

[Paul Scheer]

I'd love to talk to you about the business when we get back to Hollywood.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We both know that.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jake Johnson]

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[Paul Scheer]

Prices and participation may vary. Now, I understand that obviously we need to have our bears out there killing people, but this is a movie that takes place in a state park. And it feels like they've never had a bear problem ever. Right. Like, they have no infrastructure to deal with this grizzly. But yet also, this grizzly is not just a grizzly that's out for killing. It's a giant grizzly that has never been. It's like it's a Godzilla of grizzlies, which is also just a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a psycho grizzly.

[Jake Johnson]

It's 20ft tall.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

I mean, they keep saying they're finding claw marks 18ft up in tree like it is. And when they try and give you perspective, when the bear finally gets. Yeah, when the bear finally gets to the festival. Some people. Yes. Appear as though they're looking at a Kaiju. And some people are like, oh, there's a bear over there.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, my favorite part is when the bear kills, like there's like a little. There's a couple things that we're following. We're following. We're following the bear people, trying to solve the bear problem. We're following the concert people. We're. And then we're also following poachers. Well, this is what I was talking about, this drug dealer. Well, the drug dealer from Jamaica who's got great weed from Hawaii. I got that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, how about the guy who was running it with the cool glasses?

[Paul Scheer]

I love that guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That guy had a great. You know, that kind of reminded me of. You know, I just. I was playing cards last night and I heard. And I can't believe I heard this for the first time. I'm sure you guys know this, but do you know about Joni Mitchell's blackface era?

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, you do.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason, can you call about it? Cuz I just heard about it yesterday.

[Jake Johnson]

I mean, not by nothing. Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. Jason is wearing a Joni Mitchell shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible timing.

[Jake Johnson]

They have re. They have in modern times changed the, the jacket, the COVID art for Don Juan's Reckless Daughter because it featured a picture one. So Joanie, for a period of time, would do a blackface character and she.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Would go to parties at it.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm looking at it right now. Oh, Lord.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yes. Paul, this is a real thing.

[Paul Scheer]

Whatever you are imagining, you will be more shocked when you see it. It looks like she's out of a blaxploitation film. Like, I mean, this is like a character that might have been in Dolomite. The way that, the way that I'm looking at it right here. Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Joni Mitchell, she was doing this at parties in Laurel Canyon and everybody was like, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean. And by the way, and I want to call out because you said it like, yes, she's in blackface, but she's also in drag. Like, she's. She's a black man.

[Jake Johnson]

It's a. She is a. It's a man. Yes, you're right.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my Lord. All right, now I will say, just to kind of lift up my theory that the. The lead actor was trying to get some flirting in. This is a quote that, that the. The nurse Ratched said. Louise Fletcher, she said that when she met with the director, Andrew Sots, he said, did you read the script? And she said, yes, of course I read the script. And he goes, movie, we make nothing to do with script. So. So that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hear from a director and then say, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I love that the director's like, no, no, no. And then we won't use that. So. So that we get the idea that this movie is kind of loose and letting everybody go, you know, wherever they want to go here. But I will say that it causes a lot of weird problems because at one point when they're having a meeting about the concert, there's a line where a character says, we're gonna have 80 to 100,000 people here. And then I was like, okay. Oh, I was sorry. I was like, Now I'm saying it out loud. Now it makes sense. I was thinking 80.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, 80 to 100,000.

[Paul Scheer]

Now I see it. I was about to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, you know what? I think we all saw that happen to you in real time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, what's so bad about that?

[Paul Scheer]

And then I was like, oh, I just saw that.

[Jake Johnson]

Heads up.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. In my mind, I was like, how could you have less than 100 or more than 100,000? Thousand?

[Jake Johnson]

You really don't know how well your tickets are selling if that's where you're at.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, and by the way, we're projecting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anywhere between 80 people and 100,000. The staff. Like, how many security people do we hire? Like, I honestly don't know. Drinks? Do we have a concessions?

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, that's why. That's what I thought that they were so confused. Like, yeah, we don't have enough security guards for this event. We only thought about 55 people here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We either have so much security or so little. We hired 1500 people.

[Paul Scheer]

I also like that bears, like, have this. This is a very Jaws 4 kind of territory. Like Jaws 4. He's hunting down the family that killed.

[Jake Johnson]

Well, wasn't that also called the revenge?

[Paul Scheer]

It was Jason Jaws for the revenge, yes. With Michael Caine. And yeah, so this. This is a bear that is just met. And it seems like the bear is so specific about enacting revenge, but not on the people that created the situation. Like, the first kill are just three innocent kids who were not the poachers. And then he seems to kill only innocent people. Like, there's no, like. I mean, the poachers, I guess, finally get it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Speaking of the poachers. Yeah, they were fun.

[Paul Scheer]

I like those poachers.

[Jake Johnson]

I wish we'd been with them more. The part where the guy is talking about how they're gonna split the money when they sell the bears gallbladder, and he's just inexplicably holding a rabbit around the neck in shot like this. He's like, it, split a hundred thousand. I'm not good with numbers, but 4 times 4 is 25. But times 2 is 50. And then there's no. And then suddenly the poachers are shooting each other.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, by the way, that scene about the gallbladder money, what I loved about that was like, they come in like, hey, Luke, your brother's dead. Anyway, I think we go kill that bear and then we go get his Gallblider. And he's. And he's like, they, they just run over that your brother was killed by a bear.

[Jake Johnson]

He's like, my brother's dead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no.

[Jake Johnson]

And they're like, yeah, man, get over.

[Paul Scheer]

We got this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's how we should all start treating it, though. Let's just start living like we're in grizzly too.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, we got to become poachers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everybody does. Wasn't there a scene? I'm. I was at that point of the movie, I was getting mad at it. But were they all like start wrestling or dancing or they wake up? What was that moment where I was like, they were just such like clown performers where they were just letting.

[Jake Johnson]

Where they're drinking.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're just letting everybody know that they're trained actors.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah. And they're like, they're grabbing each other's butts and dancing around.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was clearly four men. And you see this a lot with actors where. Four men in their 50s, where all of a sudden they were like, like, man, this takes me back. Now we get to act. And you're like, what is this movement? You're a poacher.

[Paul Scheer]

No, now they are. They're like, they're feeling.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were actors.

[Jake Johnson]

I do feel like America is currently in its poacher era. Like, the country definitely feels like we're consumed by poacher. The poacher mentality.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's all of a sudden really cool to like murder a lion and stand by it. There was an era where we all admitted, like, that sucks. And now we're like, like, that's pretty cool, man. It's a pretty big ass lion you murdered for no reason.

[Jake Johnson]

Now a lot of people getting infected with the poacher mind virus.

[Paul Scheer]

But here's the thing. These poachers don't even care that they would be killing a big bear. They're like, we just gotta get this gallbladder back to San Francisco. Like that's it. Like, they, they're, they're, they, they're not even. Like, it would be a great kill. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

They love it too. I always love that the poachers are always after the thing that is reported to be an aphrodisiac.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, that's it. All they want is money.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes. Yeah. All they want is the money and the boners. That's it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what we. A thumbs up appeared on Paul's screen. You said money and boners.

[Paul Scheer]

That might have, but you didn't. I wish, I wish it was not. Maybe it was me just giving The.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, it was. I literally think you were thinking such a positive thing that your computer heard your thoughts and popped a thumbs up.

[Jake Johnson]

You have the. You have the neural link set up, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You are the first.

[Paul Scheer]

It came with my Tesla. It was not a big deal. I was in and out in the same day. It was great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But speaking. Speaking of boners.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about the George Clooney Laura Dern open?

[Jake Johnson]

Incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All of a sudden I was like, he's really slopping kisses on. Oh, she does that weird European dance when she takes her clothes off. I was like, this is a wild. And then Chuck Sheen looking hot is like hiding up in the woods. I was like, yeah, what's happening here?

[Paul Scheer]

It's like these three people are going to go camping and with the, like, implicit knowledge, like. And then when we fuck, you got to go away from us. Like, just go, like around the corner.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

I also want to just highlight for everybody because I don't know if you all noticed, but they say that they hiked. They hiked 20 miles. And Laura Dern is wearing a strappy wedge heeled sandal. She's wearing a two inch wedge heel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Nobody's sandal.

[Paul Scheer]

No one's wedded. They look great. They look great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Movies used to do a thing that I thought was going to be adulthood. And it's not. And that is if you go out with a couple, they're gonna. So soon. And you're just expected to, like, run up a hill. That's never happens.

[Jake Johnson]

And they're gonna. Here's the thing. They're gonna start while you're there. Yes, they're gonna start while you're there. And it's up. It's incumbent on you to know, hey, I gotta make myself scarce.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If I don't get out of here. I'm just watching my friends have intercourse. Like, and then I'm.

[Jake Johnson]

And then I'm the bad guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, like, hold on. I'm not a perfect.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm in my sleeping bag watching you guys. Where else am I gonna look me up? And by the way, touching myself. You're having sex right near me. I'm not watching you. And masturbating. I was masturbating and I see you.

[Paul Scheer]

It was in the middle of their conversation too. It wasn't like, hey, we were turning out for the night. It was like, hey, yeah, I saw that movie. That was kind of good. All right, we're. Now we're. It's like they. They start going at it.

[Jake Johnson]

There was also information. It Also felt like there was the intimate. They were intimating that Charlie Sheen was in love with La Adan, but that she was with Clooney.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Jake Johnson]

Like, I felt like they were setting.

[Paul Scheer]

That up in so much more here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or Charlie was just adding a layer for a.

[Jake Johnson]

Maybe you're right. But I was trying to be like, okay, oh, so this is going to be a movie about this, these three. And. And then I was like, oh, wait, all three die immediately in the same scene. This is crazy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, that's a bit. Yeah, that's a bit, though, that people have been trying to do. They probably have at this point. But there was a period for, like, every big action comedy movie movie, it was try to get the biggest star you can and have them die in the first scene. Oh, yeah, they actually do it. I will tell you, it's a. Yes, that's exactly right. The other guys did it. But you're like, it's a funny idea. What's disappointing in it is that you're like, I would love to see those three in this movie as opposed to having to watch these other guys.

[Paul Scheer]

You've pulled the car, you've pulled the rug out from under us now, because now we have to not be with these people. They were actually engaged.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Charlie Sheen and George and Laura Dern deal with a grizzly more than I want to see that weird pervert with the beard hitting down his daughter.

[Paul Scheer]

I, I also. Here's the other thing. You know, you were upset that Charlie Sheen didn't go do Karate Kid. I kind of think he would have been too cool to be Karate Kid. Like, Charlie Sheen, great actor, especially in that time. But I don't. I don't know if he's got the, Like, I don't feel like, you know, William Zabka could be beating up Charlie Sheen. I feel like Charlie Sheen would just, like, lay him out. 1, 2, 3.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

About a young Charlie Sheen.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know Charlie Sheen, post Major league, right? In post great movie, Platoon.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But we just grew up on that guy. But the other guy was Emilio's little goofball brother.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Was the hunk. Charlie was Carlos est.

[Jake Johnson]

Which is a statement. You never think you're going to say Emilio was the hunk, but by the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Way, Emilio at that era, oh, my God, he's the guy. And then his little brother Carlos.

[Paul Scheer]

Get out of here, dude.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're not even that good of an actor. I. I love to do what Emilio does.

[Paul Scheer]

I love when, like, when Andrew McCarthy comes to Emilio's house in that documentary he did about the Brat Pack. Like, I. I like Emilio a lot. Like, he's just over it. Like, not into this guy. And you could see Emilio getting, like, low key pissed off at him. Like, all right, man, get the fuck out of my house now. Like, like, oh, this documentary is great. It's basically Andrew McCarthy not getting over that. There was one article that called him the Brat Pack. And everyone else is over it, like, to the point where, like. Like, except for him. And he's like, trying to get people to be like, aren't you upset about this? No, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Know. And like, it goes so far to years ago, man.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, Rob Lowe literally is like, are you kidding me? It's the best fucking time of my life. Amazing. It was great. Like, everyone's like, no, it's fine. It was fine. He's like, no, it labeled us. It was bad.

[Jake Johnson]

We were wronged.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And just can't get anyone on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The world cares.

[Jake Johnson]

But just holding on to a grudge or a grievement in a way that is just not even remotely acceptable at this age.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I will say, even though I agree he's insane. Imagine being in that group where you guys think you're the next thing.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you're like, we finally done it. You're. Everybody's young and cool. You're doing good stuff. And you're like, they got the Rat Pack. Then you got the Jack Nicholson crew. You got the Pacinos and the Neros. Who are we? And you go, the Brat Pack? No, we're doing good movies.

[Jake Johnson]

Didn't they. Wasn't there a. An attempt to label the Vince Vaughn Jack Black generation is the frat pack?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I remember that after Old School Vibe.

[Jake Johnson]

That's it. That's, I think, what it was, maybe. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And it seems like, I mean, everything I've read from that time, the Brat Pack, it's like this. This writer had a little bit of an edge. He's like, these people, like, because they're out partying and they're being cool. I can. There's a little bit of a, you know, mean. It was mean, but it was. But if you're right, they were doing good movies. Or at least movies were awesome.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, they were great movies.

[Paul Scheer]

Also.

[Jake Johnson]

Also, what a way to elevate a dumb article.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

Which is to become obsessed with it. To become obsessed. Imagine one piece of writing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Imagine, like, Tim Chalamet, Austin Butler, whoever else are these, like, you know, Jeremy Allen White, all this, like, great group. And you're like, guys, this whole group Together, put them in a cover and call them like the new Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, these guys aren't the Geeks. When you're like, like the geeks finally running Hollywood and then Austin Butler on a motorcycle being like the geeky James.

[Jake Johnson]

Dean, you're like straight from bike riders.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just kill him ever. And then everybody called him the Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

It would be. It would. We should get that going now. We should just. That we should be like, we should encourage people.

[Jake Johnson]

We should tell everybody that all of those young Hollywood hotels plot actors are the Geeks.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, the new Superman movie has got a couple of Geek Squad guys in it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like that lead guy's in the Geek Squad. And then the woman from Maisel's was. She's a Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

She's kind of Geek Squad. You do it like Nick Holt is British.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, we could actually do how yacht music is. Yeah, it's very clear who's yacht music and who's not. We could actually create real rules and rules in the Geek Squad because I will say the woman from Maisel is not Geek Squad, but I do think the lead Superman is Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Well, Geek, I think. Well, definitely Nicholas Holt is Geek Squad. According to us, Holt is.

[Jake Johnson]

Is pretty close to Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Austin Butler is Geek Squad Prime Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

And I think that this is like, all we have to do is say it with confidence and then people will start to adopt it. Like it's.

[Jake Johnson]

Now, here's the question. How. How soon are we going to get a cease and desist from Best Buy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're spelling Squad differently.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who is the Mount Rushmore of Geek Squad?

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so, yeah, Tim C. Austin Butler, I think Jeremy Allen White.

[Jake Johnson]

Jeremy Allen White.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jeremy Allen White.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, I'm trying to think of who else is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is there a lady in the Geek Squad or is it a very much.

[Paul Scheer]

A. I mean, Margot Robbie's not in there.

[Jake Johnson]

Is Tom Holland Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was before them.

[Paul Scheer]

No, they think so.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They start a little bit younger. They got their own thing.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Jacob Elordi should be in the Geek Squad Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes. Elordi is Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's total Geek Squad and he's great.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, I'm assuming somebody is going to Photoshop all of these actors wearing Geek Squad polos.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But those guys as the pillars of Geek Squad is awesome. And guess what?

[Jake Johnson]

Anybody who's been rocking a tiny mustache lately, Geek Squad Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I love Geek Squad. Geek Squad. And all we need to do is just get a couple, like send a little article into Deadline. Send a like a. A blind submission into deux moi and be like, saw some Geek Squad there's out there on street. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, Squad. Sqwad Squad Sq.

[Paul Scheer]

That is. Oh, holy cow. That's funny.

[Jake Johnson]

Here's what I'll say. And I know we're having Sydney Sweeney Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Or is she too early for Geek Squad?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, actually might be. Oh, you know who else is? It's Glen Powell.

[Paul Scheer]

Glenn Powell, but he's a little bit older.

[Jake Johnson]

He's been to me. He's. He predates geeks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, he and her in that romance movie they did. Might have been the birth.

[Jake Johnson]

That's a Geek Squad rom com.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But that is like the beginning of like there's a movement here. These guys made a hundred million dollars doing this movie. I think this is the birth of Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Here's what I want to be very clear to say. I want to be in Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

We all want to be in Geek Squad. But you, I don't know if you can. Too old to be in Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason, right now, now I want to.

[Jake Johnson]

Be in Geek Squad so bad, I'll shave a mustache.

[Paul Scheer]

We're so old. Can't be in Geek Squad. We. Our kids are.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm. I'm Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Dad, here's what you could do in Geek Squad. You could play a guy who works at a store when the Geek Squad comes in as a cool scene and.

[Jake Johnson]

You can go kicks my ass.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Excuse me, you forgot to pay.

[Paul Scheer]

Now here's the thing. The reason why they're Geek Squad is because they bought a. A hangout place. They bought an old Best Buy and that's where they can actually party to be away from like the Blues Brothers. Yes. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is their own club because now New York and LA sucks, you know. So they actually got it in like near Omaha.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, it's out. And be on the outskirts of New.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mexico, a mid sized city in America. It's the best.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so here's. I'm just gonna give you a couple people. Just tell me yes or no. Are they Geek Squad? Margaret Qualley, Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, she feels Geek Squad big time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, she's very Geek Squad, I would say. And then, I mean, mean. And then I would go on the fence with like Haley Steinfeld. I mean she's been around for a while. No, she's okay. All right. And then Florence Pew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. I agree with, by the way. I agree with. But I. This is the one that I'm the most.

[Jake Johnson]

We. Who are we?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

To judge, you know, we are, Jason. We're fans of the Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes, yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just like I'm a fan of the Brat Pack.

[Jake Johnson]

Big time.

[Paul Scheer]

Jenna Ortega, Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Geek Squad. Big time is right now.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm looking. I'm looking through some names here. I. We had an Anna, Taylor, Joy. But I don't know if she's Geek Squad. I don't know.

[Jake Johnson]

I think she's Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't feel like she's Geek.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We gotta make something very clear about Geek Squad. And this is, I think what you were saying, Jason, with the. We want to be in the movie. This isn't an insult.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Of people, so to say the frat pack pack. Guess those guys were Frat pack.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Vince Vaughn, Jack Black, Owen Wilson. They seemed like the funniest guys in a frat. Will Ferrell.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That you were like, yeah, they probably didn't like that. They're like, we don't know. We're serious actors who are comedic actors. But I was like, I don't know. When you guys all get together, it just feels like you're laughing at those funny older guys that you go, I'm not in your frat. But you guys are so funny.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Geek Squad fixes all the technology.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. This is a good thing. Now, there were other ones. The Brit Pack. The Brit Pack was Gary Oldman, Tim Roth, Colin Firth, Daniel Day Lewis. Then there was the Rat Pack revival. Well, I guess that's. This them older. I'm looking at some websites here that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This feels like AI created those too.

[Paul Scheer]

This the It Girl. Boom. I don't know if that's a thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Deadline tried to create that, I guess.

[Paul Scheer]

Really? Brit Pack, BritPAC and fat and frat pack is in here. It's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're gonna say fat Pack. That's mean spirited. They're like, oh, man, my movie in Alaska, I put in the fat pack.

[Paul Scheer]

I do like Geek Squad. Geek Squad feels great. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But. And, but I'll tell you what's positive about Geek Squad. Because for older people, when you buy technology and you get your first big flat screen, you're putting on a wall and you go, I don't know how to hang it and get all these different things in there. When the Geek Squad shows up, you think this is the wrong name for what you do do, because it's a hell of a service. You're very good at it. It's very efficient. And you fixed my house.

[Paul Scheer]

They are the Squad. This is what I see. They're the bridge from the old to new. Because look, you know what? My mom may not be interested in going to the movies every week, but she knows Timothee Chalamet. Yeah, he bridges. He bridges.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I like about Timmy. Timmy C. When he wins that award, he gets up there and goes, I want to be one of the greats.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, great. I want to be in the original Rat Pack. That's why I got my Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That guy Jacob is hot as hell. He's doing cool movies.

[Jake Johnson]

Sydney Sweeney Heights. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're like, you guys are killing it. This is a group. The Geek Squad is coming.

[Jake Johnson]

This is the next generation, by the way. All they lack is a moniker.

[Paul Scheer]

We're speaking about this as if they all listen to the podcast and are like, we're so mad right now. They're so like, here's. But here's what I will say, man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And here's what. The new era, which we all know has changed and it's way more about technology. So now who, like, you know this movie I just did, the Dink we were talking about?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, what's the release of it? Apple bought it. Okay, cool. So what does that mean? Who knows? You know what the Geek Squad does? Fixes your technology. Yeah, they make technology cool. Where I go, when I hear this stuff as an old timer, I go like, well, what's the theatrical release? How many?

[Paul Scheer]

Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And they go like.

[Jake Johnson]

They are called the Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

They're like, hey, Jake, your movie is coming out on tick tock in 90 second intervals. It's going to have a 22 week.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'll never do it. You get one guy in the Geek Squad, all of a sudden, I'm going, I would be in. I'd love to be the waiter in the restaurant of your 90 second mic.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I tell you, Leonardo DiCaprio is in Tik Toks now with the young girl from one battle after the other. Like, he's trying to get a little bit of that taste. Because she's trying to get. I mean, she's trying to get in that Geek Squad, I'm sure.

[Jake Johnson]

I think this is. I think one of the demarcating lines for the Geek Squad is they are a generation of digital native actors. Yes, they are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And they get it.

[Jake Johnson]

They get. They get it. And they grew up with it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But, you know, you got to also say about the Geek Squad, and this is, you can't get a job at best buying a Geek Squad unless you're one of the best at it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, well, let's not. Let's not loft the Geek Squad up that high. I feel like it wasn't that. Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm gonna.

[Jake Johnson]

And I'll tell you, they're the greatest actors of our generation.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no, they're the greatest actors. I'm just saying we're putting a lot of. We're putting a lot of weight on the. The. The job interview process for the Gig Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about this? Imagine if you have a new stereo, you're trying to get it set.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You pay the 85 bucks, some guy shows up, he's from the Gig Squad, and he goes, don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. They know everything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Better know, dude. And guess what? I've had him here a lot. They always know I like the Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They might have to come back two or three times.

[Paul Scheer]

Sure. They don't have all the stuff in the truck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And guess what? They don't charge each time.

[Paul Scheer]

No, because they. They. They will come. They will do the act. Yeah, they get it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a compliment to be in the Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I like the Geek Squad. Now I will say, if you're ever in. If you're ever in the outskirts of New Mexico, stop by. Yeah, just hang out. You maybe see him walking in and out of that Best Buy. You see Chalamet bring it. They bring their own, like, chairs in there and stuff. They're cool. This movie grizzly too, you know, who gives her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're talking about.

[Paul Scheer]

Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You just need to figure out who else is Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

It would even power your mobile connection.

[Paul Scheer]

So you could bring faster, secure WI fi speeds with you where you use it most. If you had the smartest WI fi.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everything would work together seamlessly to keep you connected.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jake Johnson]

Here's my question. Did you guys feel like that the bear in this movie would have better, would have been better if they had cast instead maybe one of the bears from Country Bears Jamboree, like one of the big animatronics, Maybe liver lips McGrawell or Teddy Barra. You know, Big Al. The bears from Country Bear Jamboree. More emotive.

[Paul Scheer]

I love that you ended on Big Al. The most notable big bear from Country Bear Dragon Grandpa.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm just going in order.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. I will say this. There's a. I mean, many famous stories about why Jaws work, right? The the shark didn't work. There's a play. The shark's still not working. There's books about how the shark didn't work. And what did Spielberg do? He took that and used it to create something that was full of drama and tension. It feels like in movies like this, they're like, yeah, the bear doesn't look real. I'll shoot it anyway. Like, no one ever has learned from the lesson. It's like, oh, yeah. Well, what he did was not shoot the shark.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And made a movie without it until the very end. And then. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

The crazy thing is the bear clearly could not move. So it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or the background of shots and having the. What? Whatever. So it'd be like the concert, and the bear would be super close to lens, and you could see the concert fuzzy in the background, and you're like, oh, the. I guess the bear has gotten to the concert. Concert again. A hundred thousand people at a concert. One big.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Four hundred and eighty.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, four hundred and eighty. Eighty people. A big grizzly bear's a threat at a hundred thousand people.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, they are protected. They're protected because they're in a grouping of. It's not like they're all across.

[Jake Johnson]

Well, the concert doesn't stop.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jake Johnson]

The concert isn't interrupted by the bear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

From the future plane. There's a band from 2016 doing 2016 banger. The show's gonna go on.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, first of all, this beer is so big that John Reese Davies, who is a bigger man, was able to jump on it like a telephone pole. And like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then, strongest man ever.

[Paul Scheer]

Strong man getting that human sense.

[Jake Johnson]

He's got the. What is it?

[Paul Scheer]

The.

[Jake Johnson]

The lasso made of bear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Something. He and Steven Seagal and I don't know who invented this look, but there was a style in the 80s that some bigger, thicker white guys invented where it was just taking a few cultures, throwing on an accent where I don't know where it was from. Maybe doing a high pony, maybe having a thin beard. And it was just culturally.

[Jake Johnson]

So you're just describing Seagal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

And maybe the beard is heavily dyed, and maybe he also plays blues guitar.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe he does occasion accent event. Maybe he became a sheriff.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe he released an energy drink as well and maybe became friends of Putin.

[Jake Johnson]

Maybe has Russ Russian citizenship now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One quick question, and then I will drop this, because I. I can tell from the tone of you two, it's time to move on.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, it's never.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sure your audience is ready to do that.

[Jake Johnson]

Are we going back to the Geek Squad?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just need to finish with Geek Squad, please. And look, I do it on my own podcast all the time. It's over. Everybody's bored of it. But if we were to recast this movie with Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, this is a question. All right. Love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who's playing who?

[Paul Scheer]

All right, who is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now, now, let's not start with Charlie Sheen. Those guys.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, we have to go have.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The three of them play themselves in this movie as old guys.

[Paul Scheer]

Who's Bouchard? Who is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You want to start with? Bouchard's the big character.

[Jake Johnson]

Elordi. Only because he's big. He's a big. Elordi is like 6:2 or 6:3.

[Paul Scheer]

I was only starting with Bouchard because it's the only character I know by name.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, how about the main guy with the beast? Who's your true protagonist?

[Paul Scheer]

That's Jeremy Allen White.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're totally right.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. That feels.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who is the blonde woman who cares about conservation scientists?

[Paul Scheer]

Or I could see that also being played with a Jenna Ortega, kind of a.

[Jake Johnson]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In your dream world, who would you cast?

[Jake Johnson]

Well, no, I think what you do is you cast Jenna Ortega as Jeremy Allen White's daughter.

[Paul Scheer]

Daughter. That's the. That's the play. And that's. And that's the weirdness of the age. Do you go for Daddy? Yeah. Do you go for Daddy?

[Jake Johnson]

The same age.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, great. I like this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then you've got Jacob as Burchard.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, I think so. I mean, there aren't any, like, There aren't any big geek squads.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, because you got to get behind the TV at times.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, we need. We need, like, a big. Who's the big.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You need a guy to bring in this stuff.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The delivery guy in Gig Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm also thinking, like, who was. Who's our Deliverance Crew? Like, these are our actor actors. Again, I may pull a lordy into the Deliverance Crew, like Holt Elordi. Like, it's. It's these. You know, these guys are going a little bit, maybe. I'm trying to think of another one in that world that could be going real deep in.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, in the poachers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He can get deep in the poetry.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He would be great. There you go. That's a good poacher crew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right. I feel pretty good about it. I feel pretty happy with it.

[Paul Scheer]

I like it. And, you know, and maybe what I.

[Jake Johnson]

Do is you could also see Sydney Sweeney as a lady poacher.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Same. I was about to say, and I didn't want to say it. I think there would be a female poacher now, and there would be no comments about the fact that there was a female poacher.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, Jake, I was going to say this I want to move off my original casting and pitch you both. You know, I don't know if you are familiar, but Sydney Sweeney is now in this boxing. Bulked up in this boxing event. I'm like, maybe she's Bouchard.

[Jake Johnson]

Whoa. I actually love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, I don't like it. Now I hear why. It's a good pitch, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I feel like it's going to be a big thing that Hollywood's going to like, we're going to be excited about and no one in the world's going to like it.

[Paul Scheer]

They're going to want to see. They don't want to see her like jumping on a bear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, they're going to go, you get Sydney Sweeney, one of the greatest looking actresses of the game. You got her in a black weird wig and a beard and she's.

[Paul Scheer]

She's going to joke Tony Mitchell it. She's gonna play him in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, Bruchard doesn't change. You gotta wear the same clothes.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

I was reimagining Bouchard. Okay, okay, all right, all right. Now, now we're on the same page.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want to see Jesus clothes.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Hide them back.

[Jake Johnson]

Back to the original Castle and Valor. Full cultural appropriation.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's the only character. I want it word perfect. Everybody else, you can rethink his stuff.

[Paul Scheer]

Accent perfect too. It's gotta hit that. I will say this. If I was also casting. I don' if she's fully in Geek Squad, but I don't remember. But there is a French made waitress that is serving people in the. During the concert. There's like, oh, there's a moment where they cut away to like a server, like just delivering drinks on the table where like the. The summit captain is like. And she's just dressed like from like a murder mystery. Like, like that kind of maid's outfit. And I was like, that could be Sabrina Carpenter. I think she could do a fun part in there. Oh, yeah, you know Sabrina, she's Geek Squad. I think Sabrina Carpenter's do well, she's a musician. I don't know if we put musicians in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, look, I wouldn't put her or.

[Jake Johnson]

I mean, I'm speaking generationally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know.

[Jake Johnson]

Like, they are Geek Squad adjacent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They might be adjacent, but I'm not putting those.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm fine with it. I'm not gonna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I hear exactly what you're saying.

[Paul Scheer]

No, I mean, it's. It's right, but it's also wrong. But here's the thing to be clear.

[Jake Johnson]

Taylor Swift not.

[Paul Scheer]

No, but Hangs with Geek Squad, but is above Geek Squad. Like, I think that's such respect.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look, is Jennifer Lawrence, like, the godmother of Geek Squad?

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I was thinking. Well, that's what I like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I feel like not a squad, but without. If you don't. There's no Greek squad without Jennifer Lawrence.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I agree. I agree. Like, you want that. Like, you. And you want those people like, you know, Tom Cruise, famously not in the Brat Pack, but with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If there's no Tommy Cruise, there's no Brat Pack.

[Paul Scheer]

Exactly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So then, no Jennifer Lawrence. You would never have Geek Squad. But when she broke on the scene, you're like, she's a great actress. She's great looking.

[Paul Scheer]

She also.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She kind of could be in Geek Squad, though, too.

[Paul Scheer]

I think she's the original Geek Squad before there was enough Geek Squad to fill it in. Like, that's why she's like.

[Jake Johnson]

She's Geek Squad. I think. I think she paved the way for Geek Squad to exist.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. She walked so Geek Squad could run. But you're right that she is a little bit different because she's also connected to the older generation. So she's a little bit old school.

[Jake Johnson]

I would put her more in the. Haley Steinfeld.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I totally agree.

[Paul Scheer]

They're in another. They're in another.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But also Haley's. Haley walked so they could run and.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, where's Zendaya?

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, that way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Shailene Woodley as well, and Tom Holland are in. Whatever that group is. They just don't have a title.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, got it. They have their own thing going on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But Geek Squad, definitely. I gotta say, we might be wrong on Jeremy White.

[Paul Scheer]

I. You know, I actually think that, too. I was gonna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's not Geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

He's not.

[Paul Scheer]

He's too old for Geek Squad. Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And also, look at him from Shameless.

[Jake Johnson]

Because of Shameless. Yes. Okay. Okay, okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now, if there was no.

[Jake Johnson]

But he certainly seems to be culturally Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, he is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If he was a beatnik. He's William Burrow. Burrows. He's not in them. He's older. But you're like. They all.

[Jake Johnson]

But they don't revere him. I don't think they look up to him the way that the Beats looked up to Burrows.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think they do, deep down.

[Jake Johnson]

Really.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think they all want to be in the Bear.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I think. I think you want to have. You want. You want somebody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They all want to be Bruce Springsteen, you.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I. Paul McAl. But they're geek Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Right.

[Jake Johnson]

British. The British Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He takes Jeremy Allen White.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, I think 100%.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think that's right. I think he's. I think he's just a little bit different.

[Jake Johnson]

I don't. I agree.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He also rips cigarettes publicly.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he's. I think he's just a little. I think the geeks. One has to have a little bit of youth on them too. It's a very fine line.

[Jake Johnson]

What's interesting as well is almost everybody we've talked about are feature film actors and Jeremy Allen White is primarily ATV actor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Does that change it?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, we'll see at this award season, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. But no, Jeremy Allen White's going to do whatever he wants now. Oh, the world.

[Jake Johnson]

I mean, he's incredibly talented. Don't get.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You are right. But I do think the reason that Jeremy is a different animal is he's a veteran. And I know I don't count. When you're a kid actor and you.

[Paul Scheer]

I like Adam Driver.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. But. But Adam. But Adam Driver's for sure not Geek Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, no, no way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But he's just one of those vet. You're like at a certain point, point you are without a group. And these guys eventually will. One of them will make a documentary where they'll go like, can you believe those guys on that podcast called us the geeks go. And the other ones will go, I never heard it.

[Paul Scheer]

They wrecked. They wrecked our career. They wrecked our burgeoning careers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You mean those geezers in their closets?

[Paul Scheer]

We are definitely making a Geek Squad shirt for this episode. I feel like we should list them all. All like your favorite players from a basketball team or something. By the way, Geek Squad does still exist. I am looking here. You can chat with a Geek Squad agent at any time if you give them a call. But again, we're not spelled the same way. We're not. Our Geek Squad not spelled the same way. Wow, we really went. I mean, we did it.

[Jake Johnson]

I don't even think. I don't even know we have anything more to say about the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I. I kind of feel like we've. We've done it all, we've said it all. And I will tell you the this. Jake, I love your show. You are fantastic on this pod. You're fantastic in everything. But I'm just gonna talk about this podcast because we're here to help. It's like Monday, Wednesdays, occasionally some Fridays. You got great rotating people coming in. But you and Gareth are great. You are funny. There. Jason, have you ever done it?

[Jake Johnson]

No. Never done it. I've never been invited.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You are publicly invited.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm so furious.

[Paul Scheer]

June and I have both done it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Court you from here on out.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, but not for Geek Squad. Jun and I have done it, and it's what I think it's so fun. Is it? By the way, if you like this episode where we are devolving into Geek Squad, I think you're gonna love. We're here to help because it is a show that is prone to fun tangents. You get to go off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I gotta tell you, our bass audience gets very upset with me. I'm the one they're liking the least these days.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, my God. Just because you chased down the tangent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's funny about a bass audience, which. I love our group. And it's what I didn't realize this about podcasts that, like, you just form your group and every once in a while you get some new people. But there's the main group. The main group has so many opinions.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And oh, yeah. So mad.

[Paul Scheer]

Our audience is going to be very upset about this.

[Jake Johnson]

Wait. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

This episode is not going to be.

[Jake Johnson]

Infuriating to them that we had this great.

[Paul Scheer]

That this movie that we have now spent. And by the way, it wouldn't change a video.

[Jake Johnson]

I can't believe I watched that whole movie and they didn't talk about it for more than 10 minutes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They'll get like. It's so. They audience gets.

[Jake Johnson]

They're obviously just jealous of younger actors.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wish Nick Miller would stop talking so much.

[Jake Johnson]

And that guy who kind of looks like him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're so mean.

[Paul Scheer]

I will tell you this much. There is there. This is some facts that are, I think are interesting about it. You talk about the. The bears being bad. They went to David Prowse, who played Darth Vader to be the bear and he interviewed, and then they said, you know what? We don't need that guy. We'll just hire a very tall mime. And they hired a mime.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

True.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep. They went with a Hungarian mime.

[Jake Johnson]

And I did feel like when they did were able to trap the bear in the invisible box. That did that. That was satisfying.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way. That's the best ending moment of any movie. A bear running through a concert stage, getting caught. Caught in it. And I guess electric. Electrocuted. Electrocuted.

[Jake Johnson]

Question mark.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then what was that final line from Nurse Ratchet where she said, like.

[Paul Scheer]

You said, part of the show? Yes. Yes, it is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a Weird ending.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, very weird. No, we don't. We don't catch up with any of the main characters. Again, no resolution. We end on tertiary characters, not real joke lines.

[Paul Scheer]

And why does she even want to get back? Like, so she's now running a public park and she wants to get back to D.C. but it would seem like she was disgraced in some way. She's like, the congressman will be trying.

[Jake Johnson]

To impress them is to invite them to her rock concert in the park.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Doesn't make any sense.

[Paul Scheer]

And then I also love the way they speak about the rock concert. This is how you've set it up. It's like, yeah, it's a one night only event. We will be building until the show starts and then we will be taking it down. It's not like you built the house and we're having an. It's like, yeah, that's. We're building a stage for a one night. Yeah, that's. Is it. We don't. You didn't build Woodstock a year before Woodstock happened. They'd be like, no, it's like all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

These stages are still up. You never take them down.

[Paul Scheer]

And. And this. There's so many ideas here that were just not executed in any way as far as like they just pull a simple plot. Yeah. They didn't finish.

[Jake Johnson]

I couldn't tell you what the story was for most of these characters. They just seem to be scenes stitched together in. It could be like in any order.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Almost to talk to your audience for a second who's upset about this episode. And the tangent we went on is this not the perfect type of episode for Grizzly 2. A Stitch Together movie. No through line. That all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83. Then you're in a karaoke video and a guy. What am I literally watching?

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then it just goes to the left. Then there's a scene between a dad and a daughter that's sexual. And they go, what? And she's like, I'm gonna make you proud. Then you're. I'm like, what galaxy? So of course we went to Geek squad because Grizzly 2 made us go there.

[Paul Scheer]

You can't control where we go. Grizzly 2 inspired Geek Squad. This is part of the legacy, the long lasting legacy. Well, that's the time that we have to spend with Grizzly 2. And you know, if there was any doubt in your mind, we're not gonna do second opinions today. Only because who really has an earnest five star review. But you know, and I don't Think there are many. But I will tell you that there is one that we found. Found actually Molly found it. Our investigation has led us to believe that this is from the. The special effects designer. So I'll read it to you. The movie is given five out of five stars and. And the title is called Crew Perspective. I read the comments that there were problems with the animatronic 14 foot bear. That might be what the texts were told in the US but there was no such thing. Such item. The 14 foot version was a puppet that was intended to be used on the full size stage. And all those shots were completed before leaving Hungary. The half size animatronic version was complete and working prior to leaving Hungary too. And we shot tests of it at that time. I had an agreement with Joe Proctor to direct half size effects and elements. Other than that, there was a man in a suit for version that was complete. We were finished and ready to shoot. In coordination with the storyboard that I also supervised with Tony Beasley. The money dried up and the crew's personal equipment was seized by the government who told us that they were held against non payment of production bills. We never got our stuff out of there. And that's why, guys, we're gonna make the movie that the Geek Squad will star in, where they go in and get the camera equipment, they go back to Hungary.

[Jake Johnson]

How many other reels of unseen film are there on the shelves in random countries?

[Paul Scheer]

Miami Connection is found in a storage locker. Right? There are these movies that people find and look, that's what we did. We did this. We did it, Jake. We did it. Thank you for being with us. I love the Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm gonna think about the Geek Squad a lot.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, we're gonna. I'm assuming we're gonna start a text.

[Paul Scheer]

Thread about the Geek Squad immediately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look, I know it shouldn't catch on, but it's really good.

[Paul Scheer]

I really like the Geek Squad. And if we can just subtly get it out there. This is what I've seen kind of pop up. I know it's a little inside baseball, but I've heard a lot of executives use the term meta. And they've called and they go, well, Barbie's meta. And then I've heard like Naked Gun's meta. And I think that they don't want to call it a comedy, so they call it meta. So I think that these things can take a on, like Barbie's not meta. It's. It's, you know, it's. But I think that like all we need to do is say it to a couple people and make them feel uncomfortable about, like, we don't explain it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Three of us have the kind of reach in meetings.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where all we need to say, maybe here's the goal.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We never say that. This is where it started. We've just heard it where you go like, oh, weather and heights. Looks great. Then you go like, well, I mean, you got one of the kings of the Greek squad in it. So, you know, it's gonna, you know, not only is it going to work financially, but you know it's going to be good quality. And they go, one of the members. And you go, oh, the squad. No, you just call them the squad.

[Paul Scheer]

It needs to come back to us. That's when we know that we ask.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You w a d. Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

When we hear it from someone else. We. I also think we should say it as if we. Obviously we. We didn't come up with this, but like, oh, what are. What do they call them? The Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. You know, we could. Here's what we could do, guys. We got to call them the G Squad. Odd.

[Paul Scheer]

I like that. Hide it a little bit more. And then we like. Where did that even Geek Squad come from?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You said Jason sounded insane.

[Jake Johnson]

Well, yeah, I, you know, that's what you've been saying for about one hour.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because we also look alike. We're hearing you say that looking like me. I realize we're crazy.

[Jake Johnson]

That's what it's going to sound. That's what that experience is.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

It's not good. We can't be a bunch of 50 year olds being like, calling the young hunks and. And hotties the Geek Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is a bad idea.

[Paul Scheer]

Abort.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Abort.

[Jake Johnson]

I just got a text from Jake that says edit all the Geek Squad stuff out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought it was a compliment.

[Jake Johnson]

Abort.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It sounds terrible coming from us.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm going to say it like this. I'm big.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Paul Scheer]

You see one battle after another. I loved it. I mean, Alana Haim, though, trying to get in that G Squad. I mean, by the way, she's great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What do you mean? Oh, just the younger generation taking over. You know, I thought, I honestly, I love everything Paul Thomas Anderson does. It was nice seeing Leo. You throw a guy from the G Squad in that movie, though. I think it's going to be way.

[Paul Scheer]

That's boxing. I mean, look. And I think. But the problem is, I think Paul Thomas Anderson got so caught up in trying to make somebody from the G Squad with like, Chase Infinity. Who's Great. But she's not. She's not full.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because guess what? G Squad sounds like Gangster Squad, and that's cool.

[Jake Johnson]

Or. Or it sounds like God Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

You know, I'm just saying.

[Paul Scheer]

Holy cow. Oh, man. Oh, man.

[Jake Johnson]

I loved it.

[Paul Scheer]

Tremblay really wants that G Squad action.

[Jake Johnson]

What a wild trip this episode was. From the movie to the conversation, everything, just an absolute surprise. One surprise after another.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. All right, we'll have. If you have your suggestions for the G Squad, hit us up. Next week on Last Looks. Jason and I will evaluate and get through it all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

G Squad's cool. The way you just put that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, this is good. I like the G Squad. And by the way, just use it. Alana Ham is the perfect person because she's great. But she's not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But she's not. She is not. Because guess what? Paul Thomas Anderson is not a director for the G Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jake Johnson]

Not at all.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So if you're in with him, you're cool, but you ain't G Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, this is good. I'm. I'm. I'm feeling good about. I'm feeling good about where we're headed with this G Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. And if you're a musician, you're a pop star, you're not G Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

And if you are somebody who, like, writes her Vulture or the Ring, like, feel free to, like, say, like, oh, yeah, everyone's been like, let's. We need to. Everyone needs to figure out on your sub stacks whatever you're doing Vulture.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Perfect place for if Vulture just drop somebody on TikTok.

[Jake Johnson]

But here's what I want. I just. I want them to do it, and I would like. I would like to encourage them to do it without referencing Never.

[Paul Scheer]

No. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

As if it's their own.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If they reference us, it's gonna seem like a joke.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If it's just the G Squad, it's.

[Paul Scheer]

Got to be said. It's got to be said very casually. Again. It's. It's. It's said to make people feel like they didn't know. It's like, it's not about. We're introducing the G Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Rock.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Whenever you're doing press, Jake, for the next movie, you've got to be like, you know, we went out with the G Squad in. We chased a couple of those G Squad kids.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, there's no G Squad and Dink. It's. Ed Harris is a little bit older. I'm thinking. Really fan. No, there's no G Squad. Then I did a movie With Dakota Fanning. She's not G Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

No. A couple years earlier, she might have made. A couple years later she might have been.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But there's.

[Jake Johnson]

I don't even think Elle Fanning is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't either. I actually don't think I've ever worked with G Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I've worked with G Squad or. Well, I did a movie with Joey King and she was dating Jacob Elordi at the time, so I guess I was hanging out with G Squad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Joey King is not Geek Squad. Oh, she's geek.

[Paul Scheer]

But. Yes. So I was. But I. Yeah, so I didn't. I guess I've never done it. Yeah, I guess I have not. Yeah, you're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. Wow. Gotta take that in. I mean. Yeah. Anthony Ramos. Anthony Ramos.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, slow down, babe. We're getting older.

[Paul Scheer]

You're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cheese. God comes and then when they come, you got to kick some old off the boat. We're the old on the boat. We got to be old barrels.

[Jake Johnson]

Just guess what. Guess. We are the Wilford Brimleys of that. For that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Agreed.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow. To them, we're younger. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Those guys are younger than us.

[Jake Johnson]

Younger. Younger. We did it.

[Paul Scheer]

We did. Was 42 in Lethal Weapon to be too old for this. 42.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So, guys, 47. How about this?

[Jake Johnson]

When he played Archie bump.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Jake Johnson]

Crazy 47.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Imagine a G squatter watching this little zoom of the three of us. You know who he's seeing? Danny Glover. Archie Bunker.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. I mean Wilford Brinley.

[Jake Johnson]

Wilford Brinley.

[Paul Scheer]

49 in Cocoon. 49 in Cocoon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't remember have headphones when they do zooms. They do it differently somehow.

[Jake Johnson]

They know it. They know it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You can see our wires, you geeks, man.

[Paul Scheer]

They're all automated. They're all like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're like. They're like, what are you doing? You can see the mic. And we're like, it's better sound quality. And they're like, you need G Squad.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, my God, this is so funny.

[Paul Scheer]

This is the best. Holy shit. Wow. Wow. We did it. I don't know what we did, but we did it. And if you're a first time listener, this is a little different than what we normally do. So I encourage you to check out another episode if you'd like and make sure that if you are listening to Episodes, you are following us on Spotify and Apple podcasts. We will be back next week on Last Looks to talk more about Grizzly. We can even actually talk about the movie. Or we could just keep on talking about G Squad. Your choice. I really am interested what June would think about the G Squad. But you know what? Maybe you can ask us about the G Squad on the road. That's right. How did this get made? And Dinosaur are going out on the road on the East Coast. We're going to be in dc. We're going to be in Boston. We're going to be in New York. And Philly. Philly, we're back. So go get your tickets. Go to hdtgm.com we cannot wait to see on the Road joining Dinosaur, Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones, Danielle Schneider from Garbage World, Mary Holland, Rob Riggles. So many great people are jumping in on this dinosaur shows and they've been selling out. So come check it out. HDTGM.com youm can also subscribe to the Dark Web. It's free. It's on YouTube every week. Me and Rob people go to the depths of the Internet. Also have a substack which has been a lot of fun and it's completely free. Or you can also throw me some money if you'd like, but that's not why I'm in this. Okay, enough people are taking your money. June is in Weapons and Freaker Friday, which are both now streaming. And you can catch Jason in Amazon's Invincible. It's a great show. You can follow us on social media dtgm. And a big thank you to our producers Scott Saani, Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer, Avril Halley, as well as our engineer, Casey Holford. We'll see you next week for last Looks where you decide what we're going to talk about. Boy o', Brien. Boy, it's gonna be a lot. Bye for now. Hey guys. Joel Kim Booster here with a very exciting announcement that I am the newest host of the podcast Bad Dates. I am so excited to be here and sharing all the wildest, most chaotic and iconic bad date stories with you. I'll be joined by friends like Peppermint, Scott Thompson, Casey Wilson, Ron Funches, and MJ Rodriguez and will hear all about their most notorious bad dates. It'll make you laugh, cry, cringe, and maybe make you feel a little better about your own dating life. You don't want to miss it. Listen to Bad Dates by subscribing to SiriusXM Podcast plus on Apple Podcasts or listening wherever you get your podcasts. Bad Dates Everybody sleeps, but no two people sleep alike. At Coop Sleepgoods, we celebrate the way you sleep Differently. Differently. We believe everyone deserves a great night's sleep. With their own pillow, and the adjustable, customizable Coop pillow makes it easy. Whether you're a side sleeper, back sleeper, or even a starfish, we've got the perfect pillow for you. Crafted with our innovative memory foam and microfiber fill, our hypoallergenic pillows adjust to you and not the other way around. Just tailor the fill for the perfect fit, add some in, take some out until your pillow's just right for the. You see why luxury hotels and spas worldwide feature Coop sleep goods and why we have tens of thousands of 5 star reviews. With our 100 night risk free trial, you've got nothing to lose except those sleepless nights. Get 20% off your first order when you visit coopsleepgoods.com comedy that's co p sleepgoods.com comedy.