Last Looks: Date with an Angel

Summary

How Did This Get Made? — Last Looks: Date with an Angel (Feb 20, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of "How Did This Get Made? Last Looks," hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas revisit their exploration of the bizarre 1987 film Date with an Angel. Listeners chime in with corrections, omissions, and stories related to the movie and its outlandish tropes. The hosts also deliver a bonus deleted scene, take a deep dive into current television obsessions—particularly Marvel’s Wonder Man—and reveal the contentious results of the latest fan poll, announcing the next movie selection. The episode is filled with the podcast's trademark wit, chaotic energy, and a thoughtful look at why we love so-bad-they’re-good cinema.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Community Corrections & Listener Feedback

• Mouth-to-Mouth Scene Analysis (06:45 – 07:45)
  • Paul reads a Discord comment questioning the infamous "mouth-to-mouth" scene, pointing out the main character Tad's hilariously inaccurate resuscitation attempt. The consensus? "Blame the tumor" (08:05), a running joke used to explain any illogical plot point in the film.
  • Quote: “Whenever we don’t understand anything in this movie, we are going to blame the tumor.” – Paul Scheer (07:55)
• Justice for Tad’s Finger-Sniffing
  • A listener proposes Tad sniffed his hand to check for pool water, not lewdness, but Paul remains unconvinced.
• Angel in Flip Flops Explained (07:48 – 09:32)
  • Alwyn from London clarifies a running joke: the song “Angel in Flip Flops” in Only Murders in the Building is a deliberately terrible fake song. Paul corrects and elaborates on the song’s backstory.
  • Quote: “I am going to see your fact and throw it back in your face!” – Paul Scheer (08:55)
• The "Born Sexy Yesterday" Trope (09:33 – 10:39)
  • Luke calls in to label the film’s central trope: "Born Sexy Yesterday," where an attractive, naive outsider (usually a woman) is instantly fixated on the first man she meets. Paul and June riff on this, connecting it to films like Splash and The Fifth Element.
  • Quote: “Basically makes mansplaining okay...men can talk to pretty women and feel incredibly superior.” – Paul Scheer (10:15)
• Angels in the Outfield Legacy (11:24 – 12:02)
  • Galen highlights actor Tony Rotano’s peculiar career playing angelic roles, delighting Paul.
• White Sushi Chef Anecdote
  • Jack’s dropped call leads Paul to recount the origin of a League episode about a white sushi chef. Paul emphasizes his surprise at the chef’s skill, noting white chefs may work harder due to stereotype expectations.
• Comparisons to "Passion Play" & Angel Movie Lawsuits
  • Spargle O draws connections between Date with an Angel and Passion Play, prompting jokes about potential lawsuits over recycled angelic plots.
  • Quote: “Should we have a lawsuit brewing between the writer of Passion Play and Date with an Angel? You know what? I say bring it.” – Paul Scheer (14:27)
• Burgess Meredith’s Boobs Memory
  • The winning correction comes from DK, who recounts a childhood confusion over a Clash of the Titans nude scene, believing he had seen Burgess Meredith’s breasts.

2. Bonus Deleted Scene: Restaurant QR Code Fail (17:21 – 18:33)

• June teases Paul for scanning the wrong QR code at a restaurant, landing on the review page instead of the menu. Both bemoan QR code overload and how tech confusion can instantly date a dining experience.
  • Quote: “Why have two barcodes on top of each other? Honestly, shame on that restaurant.” – Paul & June (18:03)

3. TV Recommendations & Pop Culture Chat

Wonder Man Deep Dive (24:53 – 31:33)

• Hosts: Paul, Jason, and June
• The trio raves about Marvel’s Wonder Man.
  • Paul reveals inside info: he had early access through showrunner Andrew Guest and praises its unique “FX show” vibe, likening it to Legion rather than traditional Marvel fare.
  • June describes Wonder Man as “a character study about ego death” rather than a superhero spectacle, spotlighting Yahya Abdul-Mateen II’s lead performance and the show’s focus on the struggle of acting in LA.
  • Favorite moments: Simon’s humiliating American Horror Story bit part and Ben Kingsley’s Shakespeare monologues. Both highlight episode guest stars Josh Gad and Joe Pantoliano, who play obnoxious versions of themselves.
  • Quote: “It is unlike anything in the Marvel world. It feels like an FX show...like what Legion was.” – Paul Scheer (25:19)
  • Quote: “He is so cripplingly insecure as an actor...he cannot get out of his own way.” – June Diane Raphael (27:38)
  • The series’ “low stakes” approach reminds June of the comic Astro City.
• Recommendation: Even Marvel skeptics will enjoy Wonder Man for its humor, human scale, and half-hour format.

Classic & New Comedy Recommendations (34:36 – 41:20)

• 30 Rock Rewatch – Paul and June endorse revisiting 30 Rock for its dense, evergreen joke writing and endless character combinations. They lament the trend toward shorter seasons.
• Girls5Eva and The Rise and Fall of Reggie Dinkins – Modern comedies from the 30 Rock creative team also receive high praise.
• Sarah Sherman: Live and in the Flesh (38:20 – 41:20)
  • Both hosts emphatically recommend Sarah Sherman’s new standup special for its gonzo, body-horror absurdism.
  • Quote: “Every time she hits [the Seinfeld bass pedal] kills me.” – Paul Scheer (40:12)
  • Paul likens her lineage to Tim & Eric → Eric Andre → Sarah Sherman.
  • Quote: “It feels very much like Julio Torres’s special...hers presents as a standup special that is completely twisted.” – Paul Scheer (41:19)

4. Next Week’s Movie & Fan Poll Drama (43:12 – 46:12)

• The Discord poll ended in a tie between Shoot ‘Em Up (2007) and The Core (2003), but in light of alleged vote manipulation, the hosts select Shoot ‘Em Up (“You fucked around and you found out!” – Paul, 45:15).
• Paul expresses love for Shoot ‘Em Up and will extol its Looney-Tunes-meets-John-Wick insanity in the next episode. He reads an Ebert quote highlighting the film’s over-the-top style.
  • Quote (Ebert): “Never before have I seen a movie open with the hero delivering a baby during a gun battle...then killing a villain by penetrating his brain with a raw carrot.” (45:45)
• Shoot ‘Em Up is only available to rent, but Paul insists listeners won’t regret it.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Tumor as All-Purpose Plot Device: “Whenever we don’t understand anything in this movie, we are going to blame the tumor.” – Paul Scheer (07:55)
• The Born Sexy Yesterday Trope: “Makes mansplaining okay... men can then talk to pretty women and feel incredibly superior.” – Paul (10:15)
• Fan Engagement: “I’m not going to hear any complaints. It is available to rent... and I think you should, and I don’t think you’re going to be upset about renting it, so go with God.” – Paul (46:16)
• On QR Codes at Restaurants: “Honestly, shame on that restaurant. How dare you give me a way to review before I’ve even gotten to the meal.” – June Diane Raphael (18:03)
• On Wonder Man’s Marvel Standout Vibe: “It is unlike anything in the Marvel world. It feels like an FX show...like what Legion was.” – Paul (25:19)
• Marvel Fatigue? Not a Problem: “If you are not keeping up with Marvel...It doesn’t matter. It’s a slice of life for this one character.” – June (25:57)
• Sarah Sherman’s Special: “Every time she hits [the Seinfeld bass pedal] kills me.” – Paul (40:12)
• On Fan Vote Result: “You fucked around and you found out, okay, we are gonna do Shoot ’Em Up, a movie that I don’t think belongs on this show. But you picked it. And we’re gonna give it to you.” – Paul (45:15)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Corrections & Omissions: 06:45 – 16:40
• Bonus Scene: QR Code Fiasco: 17:21 – 18:33
• Wonder Man (Deep Dive): 24:53 – 31:33
• Comedy Recommendations: 34:36 – 41:20
• Next Movie Announcement & Poll Drama: 43:12 – 46:12

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Tone & Language

The episode flows with the show’s trademark blend of zany banter, winking self-deprecation, affectionate movie nerdery, and genuine pop culture enthusiasm stemming from the hosts’ unfakeable chemistry. Fan interactions—through Discord, calls, and corrections—keep the podcast playful and community-focused, while their forays into TV discussion are sharp, nerdy, and inviting to both newcomers and deep-cut aficionados.

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Summary

Whether you’re here for the sublime awfulness of Date with an Angel, the hosts’ pop-culture digressions, or just a strong comedy recommendation, this episode delivers all the pleasures—and the chaos—that make How Did This Get Made? a comedy podcast institution. Next week: Clive Owen, gun-fu, and carrots in Shoot ‘Em Up—per Discord’s divisive, yet definitive vote.

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Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

is a tumor. Our new Jacob's Ladder. What do Burgess Meredith boobs look like? And the controversial Discord vote that tried to trick us but wound up messing you all up. That's right. All this and more on today's how did this Get Made? Last Looks like hit the theme you called Paul Hey, Paul. To talk about a movie you saw.

[June Diane Raphael]

Maybe you were truly appalled, or maybe

[Paul Scheer]

you enjoyed the film and you're a dubious aww. Last Looks, Looks, looks the Last Looks Tell the truth.

[June Diane Raphael]

When have you read your last book?

[Paul Scheer]

It's a podcast. How did this Get Made? And this is Go Van Gogh Show.

[June Diane Raphael]

Let's get paid.

[Paul Scheer]

The Last Looks looks, looks the last Looks Last looks looks, looks the Last Looks Smoochy smoochie. No, I am not an angel obsessed with kissing. It's me, your host, Paul Scheer. And welcome to how did this Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issue on Date with an Angel, a movie that Discord user Ghostbag thinks should have had the tagline Date with an Angel. It is a tuma. Love it. I love a little Kindergarten Cop Date with an angel mashup. That's the kind of quality work here that we all need to be doing. So thank you Ghostbag for that. And yes you did. Just remind me that this is a movie that asks the age old question, does the main character have a brain tumor? Maybe that's our new Jacob's ladder in this show. A big shout out to go Van Gogh for that opening theme song. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our Discord at Discord GG hdtgm. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to hdtgm.com and click on the Submit a Song button on our homepage. Remember, keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Coming up on today's episode, we'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on Date with an angel and I'll even share an exclusive deleted scene from our Date With an angel episode. Then Jason will join me to chat about all the TV shows that we are currently loving, especially Wonder Man. And as always, I will announce the movie for next week's episode, which also happens to be the winner of our recent Discord fan poll. That's right, you voted. We watched. We were upset. And and I'll tell you, there was a lot of drama around this voting process. We're going to get into it on the main episode, but I'm also going to break it down here as well. Dinosaur Improv will be at Largo on February 28th. It's a Saturday. Come out. Nicole Byer, Edie Patterson, Danielle Schneider, Rob Peeble, myself. It is going to be a great big show. I want to say thank you to everybody who is still getting autographed books, hardcovers and paperbacks of joyful recollections of trauma. You can always just go right to my website and order the books right there. And you help support a local bookstore, Chevalier's, which is the oldest bookstore in Los Angeles. I don't get any money from it. I just do it because I love Chevaliers. They are the absolute best. And if you've not watched yet, my Taylor Swift mini doc is available right on my homepage. I made a little mini doc about Taylor Swift. Yeah, look at that. I make stuff. Anyway, enough with the plugs. Let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about Date with an Angel. So we had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions. With told John Shield. Yeah. Thank you, John Faulding, for that theme song. I love that. All right, so there's a lot to get into for a movie that we did so long ago that I barely remember. So I'm glad that this first discord comment is about a very specific scene. So specific that I needed to pull a video reference to even have a take on it. All right, so the chap writes, can we talk about Tad's attempt at mouth to mouth resuscitation? This dude awkwardly leans in for the usual movie trope of a kiss, like mouth to mouth, but then pulls up, turns his head completely away from her and gives a huge exhale towards nothing. He then repeats this. Now, isn't the whole point of mouth to mouth to exhale into the other person's lungs, forcing their chest to rise and their lungs to expand? I mean, what is going on here? I mean, I think that's the only thing I could put together. Like, he thought that he was like, kind of helping take extra air out. Look, it was the 80s. We didn't know from CPR. Right way, wrong way. He was doing it his way. Maybe for the simplest explanation for Tad's mouth to mouth fail, we can go back to the discord where Archimedes returns to Oz wrote, blame the tumor. You know what? Yeah. Whenever we don't understand anything in this movie, we are going to blame the tumor. Mitch Cappa, Chunk style, writes a bit of justice for Tad. You guys thought it was crazy how he, you know, the morning after his bachelor party, he smelled his finger to check, did something inappropriate happen with that blow up doll the night before? But Mitch Capa once pointed out it wasn't about the doll. No, the pool water had rushed in all over the floor and he was smelling his wet hand to check, what is this liquid? I don't know if that gives us full justice for Tad there. I feel like it's still. I mean, I guess, I guess. What if it was pee? He was still sniffing his hand to figure out what was on it. It could have been from anything. I don't think it was. If he knew it was the pool water, he wouldn't have sniffed his finger. He would have said, oh, it's pool water. Right? Come on, Mitch, let's go to the phones. Alwyn from London, what do you got?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, Paul, this is Alwyn. I just listened to the date with an angel episode and you make a joke about a song called angel and Flip Flops. Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that angel and Flip Flops is actually the fake song written by one of the characters and Only Murders in the Building. It's the song that they use to justify why he gets so many random royalties and can still live in the fancy building in New York. So, yeah, that is Steve Martin character song angel and Flip Flops from Only Murders in the Building, which you can find on YouTube.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, first of all, you don't have to lecture me about Only Murders in the Building. I love Only Murders in the Building. So much so that I am going to correct you on this fact. The reason why Steve Martin is rich in that show is because of Brazos and then the subsequent, like, reboot of Brazos. But I was going to say the song that you were talking about, angel and Flip Flops, yes, that was on the show as well. But that show was never a hit. It was like, I believe a song that only came out in Germany and then the Berlin Wall fell and then that, like, prevented him from becoming like a big music star. I believe that was the premise of that joke. Wow. Why do I know all of this? But they did actually release that song. Now, I googled this to accompany the show and there's a music video so you can watch the entire animated angel and Flip Flops. But I believe now, as I'm looking at it, even it only reached 83 on the charts, so did not make a lot of money from that. So I am going to see your fact and throw it back in your face. Luke, what do you got

[Caller/Listener]

into the David Angel Live Show? And I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing that came up during the show and was just tough for time, but you guys are talking about how similar this is to Splash In. The fact that it's about, you know, this kind of otherworldly creature who doesn't understand our world and is very attractive and suddenly appears here and basically falls in love with the first person they see. Just because they're the first person they see, they don't really realize they could do they could get somebody better. I just kind of wanted to let the audience know that there is a name for this trope. It is called Born Sexy Yesterday. And in addition to Flash, some other prominent examples are Fifth Element. How does this get made? Classic. A Very Nitty Christmas Hot Prophecy. Basically any Christmas movie where the Christmas decoration comes to life and then starts dating Somebody. So, anyways, just wanted to put that out there for you and your listeners so we can articulate why these movies are bad. Or if you're into them, I guess, look it up and find more of them. Anyways, calculator kisses.

[Paul Scheer]

I love this term. I have been obsessed with this Born Sexy Yesterday idea. Yeah, it's basically. Yeah, robots, mermaids. Like, was it Tron? And you mentioned all the ones. Right. It basically makes mansplaining. Okay. I think that's the whole reason behind this. Right. Is like, men can then talk to pretty women and feel incredibly superior to them and not be in awe of their beauty. Like, they're like, oh, well, you may be beautiful, but you're a fucking idiot. You need me. Yeah. It's a great trope. Thank you, Luke, for making sure that we now have the name for it. Galen from la. What do you got?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Paul. This is Galen from Los Angeles. Little detail on our beloved love bug, the actor Tony Rotano, whose only other major credit film credit, Angels in the Outfield, seven years later where he played the singing umpire. So that's an acting career defined by playing singing characters in PG rated angel movies. Angel comedies. That's quite a legacy if you ask me. All right, thanks so much. Bye.

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh, I like that, Galen. There we go. That's great. A little fun fact for you. Angel in the Outfield. Love that movie. Was that the one? No. Angels in the Outfield is the Christopher Lloyd one, right? Where he. Yes. Okay. I do love that movie. All right, now, we had one last call from Jack in Wisconsin, but the call kept on cutting out. So we're just gonna kind of paraphrase it. I'm sorry, Jack. Call when you have a better connection. Jack says roughly, in this episode, you and June told a story about being disappointed when the personal sushi chef who cooked for you ended up being white. Did this and story inspire the episode of the League where Timothy Oliphant played a white sushi chef who. Japanese. As a matter of fact, no. I believe that that was something that was inspired by one of the creators of the show. We definitely spoke about that. But that. I'm not taking any credit for that whatsoever. I believe that was something that happened to Jeff or Jackie. We also had that experience in Hawaii one time. And I gotta tell you, you know, I don't wanna. I don't want to be racist. I don't want to be. Again, I like a Japanese sushi chef, but we met a guy in Hawaii, he was serving sushi, and I gotta say the sushi was delicious. I judged a book by its cover. I actually think in a weird way, the white chefs work harder because they know that they have an uphill battle of being a white chef next to a bunch of Japanese men and women. Anyway, back to the Discord. I hope I don't get in trouble for that opinion. I'm just having fun with y', all. You know, times are weird. You never know what's gonna get taken out of context. Anyway, back to the discord. Spargle O writes, Was anyone else struck by the parallels to Passion Play, the Megan Fox Mickey Rourke movie covered on the pod last year? You don't gotta remind us about Passion Play. We love Passion Play. I would say Passion Play, yes, you're right, is another Born Sexy Yesterday movie. In both movies, a man discovers an angel who cannot fly, and neither movie is at all interested in the theological or scientific implications of angels existing. The man must protect her from forces that want to exploit her looks for commercial gain. The angel regains the ability to fly just in time to thwart armed pursuers, and at the end it's revealed that the man was either dead or dying during the events of the film. Wow. Are you telling me there's a lawsuit brewing? Should we have a lawsuit brewing between the writer of Passion Play and Date With An Angel? You know what? I say bring it. I say let's get an old ass lawsuit out. Sue it now. Don't be like the guy who sued Top Gun like a year after the movie came out. I say sue this movie way after. I mean, I guess it would be the Date With an angel people suing Passion Play, and it feels like the money wouldn't be great on either side of it. But let's get an old lawsuit out so we can break down why these angel movies are so similar. Meanwhile, Angels in the Outfield they really did jump into the theological ramifications of what Angels in baseball. What that meant Anyway, we'll close out things with not a correction or omission, but with a personal story from dk and Phil Paul's experience of being shown Clash of the Titans as a kid in school resonated with me so hard. I think in sixth grade a substitute teacher played it for my class too, and I remember the nude scene vividly because it was so shocking to see breasts in my middle school classroom. I wasn't paying attention to the movie except for that scene, but I naturally wanted to know whose real life boobs I saw, so I paid careful attention to the credits. However, I couldn't remember the character's name, so I just looked for the names of female actresses. I have no idea why, but for some reason, I thought that Burgess Meredith was a woman. And I remember walking out of class thinking to myself, wow, I saw Burgess Meredith's boobs. Holy cow. You know, normally we just give a correction and omission to someone who brings up a great fact, but I gotta say, anyone who can go toe to toe with me with a Paul Scheer story is gonna be the winner today. Yeah, seeing Burgess Meredith's boobs is the winner. And you know what? You don't get anything. But you do get this amazing song from Bears in Love. Hit it. I love that song, by the way. Bears in Love.

[June Diane Raphael]

Woo.

[Paul Scheer]

That's good. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619-Paulask. All right, coming up after the break, Jason will stop by to chat about all the TV shows that we are watching and loving. We got some great wrecks for you. But first, take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from our Date with an angel show where June makes fun of me for scanning a QR code wrong at a restaurant the night before the show. I remember this embarrassment. Take a listen. I gave you a review of the ordering process. I will say, Paul, we did go to a restaurant last night and there was a little placard. You know, there's no menus anymore. Burn me now.

[June Diane Raphael]

No menus anymore. Which is really pissing me off. And so we had to pull up the QR code.

[Paul Scheer]

And Paul, you did say to the

[June Diane Raphael]

waitress, I'm just on the review page.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, because. All right,

[June Diane Raphael]

meaning that's what it. The QR code sent to.

[Paul Scheer]

What it was, right? It was a. It was like, like, you know, like one of those things that you put on a table in a bar where it's like the bar specials are on it, right? So it's a small little thing on the table and there was. It said menu and barcode. Barcode. One on top, one on bottom. So I scan the barcode. She's like, no, no, no. You scan the review. Barcode. That's the menu barcode. I'm like, motherfucker, why have two barcodes on top of each other?

[June Diane Raphael]

Honestly. Honestly, shame on that restaurant.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

How dare you give me a way to review before I've even gotten to the meal.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

It's like, you also, this reviewer felt,

[June Diane Raphael]

how often are you asked to review the restaurant in ever in general.

[Paul Scheer]

And I'm like, and I'm like, I'm just trying to order. I'm like, which one? My phone is catching one of them. I'm not like, oh, hold on. You know, it's like, just keep it separate.

[June Diane Raphael]

Meanwhile, they are now fully in your data. That restaurant has complete access to everything you're up to.

[Paul Scheer]

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[June Diane Raphael]

is a time capsule.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[June Diane Raphael]

This episode is a time capsule. Like, this is time travel from, like, oh, boy. Remember when we were innocent? Remember. Remember two years ago when we were in Minnesota?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you know what's so interesting is, like, we record these episodes, and I feel like we've done them, and then certain fans keep track of what has not been released for a while. The Swordfish episode was an episode that was not released. And what happened? What's the drama behind it? And we. We try very hard not to release episodes that you can't have access to watching.

[June Diane Raphael]

We. Oh, we don't want you to have to, like, pay money if you don't have to, like, to rent a movie or that isn't available even to do that.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, that was the thing. Like, this movie was just not available. So a lot of the times we are just constantly scanning services to make sure that from when we did it to when we release it, like, somehow this fell in a little bit of a gap. I think it was going to come off whatever service it was on. I know that I've talked to the director a handful of times, and he is doing a DVD release of it. A lovely guy. So that's a huge reveal. Yes, he has written me a handful of times. We've talked about some stuff, and he wanted to have some kind of collaboration, which, by the way, I can say that unofficially, or maybe officially, I can say that we are doing a fun collaboration with rad, the BMX movie. We have a really fun thing coming up with them. We'll talk about that more when that is going to be released and by whom.

[June Diane Raphael]

But suffice it to say, we will be racing BMX bikes.

[Paul Scheer]

That's all you need to know. And Jason and I have been training, training those hard. Up, up, up.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, yeah. Paul does the pedaling, and I'm standing behind him on the pegs.

[Paul Scheer]

It looks good. It looks.

[June Diane Raphael]

It looks great. It looks great.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, last time we talked, we got to only speak about a few things that we like. And I feel like everybody's been asking and I've been wanting to talk to you about this, but. Wonder Man. Wonder man, the new Marvel show.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now, full disclosure, I'm only halfway through the season.

[Paul Scheer]

Great. I don't think we should reveal that much. I will tell you this. I don't either that during the pandemic, my friend Andrew Guest, who is the showrunner of the.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

He was brought on to Hawkeye, and he kind of got in the Marvel world. And I really loved The Hawkeye series and how. What they did with Hawkeye. He got tasked with bringing this show to life and he showed me early cuts. I got to see. I had to sign so many NDAs. It was amazing. And I got to read the scripts and when I saw it. I've been talking this show up for such a long time, just quietly to people, because it is unlike anything in the Marvel world. It feels like an FX show, kind of like what Legion was in the sense that it's completely in its own thing now. Yes, there are characters that come in, like, Ben Kingsley is great, but it's like a Lethal. It's like it has a Lethal Weapon kind of vibe to it in the

[June Diane Raphael]

sense it's a bloody thing. And I'm saying this to the audience, like, if you are not keeping up with Marvel. Yes, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter at all. You don't need to know about multiverses. You don't need to know about Loki's stuff. You don't need to. This is a slice of life for this one character, Simon, who is not Simon west. But yeah, Simon, that's what I almost said too. But that's the guy who made Con Air.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, but his name is Simon and he's a good guy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, it's so good. And it's Simon Williams. Simon Williams. Thank you. And it's. What's his name? Yahya Abdul Mateen. From our beloved ambulance. I believe he was in the Michael Ambulance.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

And he is. What I love about this is he's a struggling actor in la and this, the show is really about the kind of constant ego death of a struggling actor in LA who secretly has superpowers that you really do not really get access to. It's not a swaggery kind of. You know, it is. It's a character study.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, here's what I will say. I. I have not started again because I've watched and I read a bunch and I. I have to go back in and see. I know things were reordered, but have you gotten to see the day that he goes on set when he has got a bit part in a TV

[June Diane Raphael]

show, American Horror Story.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. Incredible. That is truly one of the.

[June Diane Raphael]

It is so uncomfortable.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

And. And so hilarious.

[Paul Scheer]

And treat. Oh, yeah, it gets me. It's so beautifully done. It's so fucking beautifully done.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's such a phenomenal actor at portraying. Again, this is someone who has like omega level powers, who is so cripplingly insecure as an actor. And that, that is just. He cannot get out of his own way. He does an incredible job portraying this character. And Ben Kingsley's along for the side, along for the ride, like you're saying, as his buddy. And then they just are in some scenes, they're just going back and forth trading verses from famous plays. Like Ben Kingsley's just allowed to do a two minute monologue from Shakespeare.

[Paul Scheer]

It's.

[June Diane Raphael]

The show is fucking great.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I, I've loved it. We get. We have some fun friends on the show too. Carl Tartt pops up on the show.

[June Diane Raphael]

Carl Tartt is in an episode that's like a bottle episode, not a bottle episode. That's like a one off episode that explains the history of another character from the past, Byron Bowers.

[Paul Scheer]

So good.

[June Diane Raphael]

So good. It's. It's great.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's also the episode with Josh Gad doing. I mean, Josh, like, Josh Gad really, like, I give him a lot of credit for basically just jumping in as himself and really going, joey Pants too.

[June Diane Raphael]

Josh Gad and Joey Pants are both in this show playing themselves, the actors, Joe Pantoliano and Josh Gad and Josh Gadda version of himself in this show is just such an unrepentant douche. It's great.

[Paul Scheer]

It is, it is so fun to watch. It's this great acting, it's great writing, it's funny and it's. To me, it's just like one of those things where I think a lot of the complaints about it have been, why didn't they advertise this show? Like, you know, because it's sort of like, oh, it's kind of. Yeah, it just kind of came out. And I think it. Honestly, it's a big swing. And the way I kind of describe it to people is like, this is the andor for the Marvel universe. It's sort of like we're in a world. You're right. Not tonally, but like it's a creator going, we're just gonna live in our world doing our own thing. That doesn't really affect anything else.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, you're right. And what's interesting is you're right. It's a big swing, but conversely, it's a big swing because it's a small story.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, and that's what's a big swing about it, is that this is small stakes story here. It is about, did he get the audition? Like most episodes are about whether he gets a call back or not, or about being embarrassed to tell his family that he got fired from A job like all of these family dynamics all. It feels very small. It feels a little bit like a character study that you are interested in. And every once in a while you're reminded, oh right, he has like powers. Oh, okay, right. But it's not. The powers are not what the show is about. And now going forward that might change,

[Paul Scheer]

but it's, it's also. It's not cool to have powers. Like that's the part of it is like, like. And I think that that's the fun part of the show is like it, it's a different perspective. It's kind of like what Astro City was to me back in the day.

[June Diane Raphael]

Absolutely. And I don't understand why Kurt Busick book.

[Paul Scheer]

I have no idea why no one has done Astro City like that to me feels like a no brainer boy.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's so big. It's such a.

[Paul Scheer]

You could many elements, right?

[June Diane Raphael]

You can do elements of Astro City, you know, because Astro City, Astro. I mean if people haven't read the Kurt Busick book, Astro City, there's many, many, many volumes of it, but there's compendiums that collect a lot of them. And they really seek to show not just stories of superheroes and the city and everything like that, but it's really about the people inside of the city that is full of these heroes. And how does. Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful storytelling and it's.

[Paul Scheer]

Alex Ross does some of these. The covers of it that are just.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh yeah, the art is gorgeous. It's, it's, it's incredible. Very long running book. Beautifully told. It's a, it's one that is. I can't recommend enough. Astro City.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, really a highlight of that one. I love it so much. But man, oh man. Wonder Man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wonder Man. Great.

[Paul Scheer]

If you are hesitating in any way, just let that get to the side because the. Honestly, the opening scene will suck you in. You're like, oh, I'm in.

[June Diane Raphael]

And if this matters, it's a half hour.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's not, it's not an hour long show. It's eight half hours. It's great. It's a very compelling human story.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

You know what we have been watching here at the the home front 30 Rock and I have not. I have not sat through 30 Rock for years.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And man oh man, what a fun rewatch. I know it's like the dumbest thing to say like 30 Rock is no,

[June Diane Raphael]

no it is because I also have re watched it within the last year or two. So joke dense. It is so strong that show. So many jokes. So, so funny. What I love about that show And I think is such a way to talk about great shows is once they finally settle into what it is, then it's just a mix and match, right? So then it's like, what if this storyline is. Put these three together who normally aren't together, and these two are over here doing this, and those different pairings and different matchups are endlessly, recyclably funny.

[Paul Scheer]

And you know what I think is so interesting? This is a story that I always heard when they were talking about the Office. Like, Greg Daniels had this board, and on the board he had, like all the characters lined up on both sides, the left and right hand side. And this drew lines. All right, well, it's Dwight and this guy. You know, it's. And it's like, what are those stories? And when you had 24 episodes in a season, you could just go all,

[June Diane Raphael]

mix it up, mix it up, mix it up, you know, and it's so

[Paul Scheer]

fun and endlessly, like you said, like, they never get old. It's like, oh, great, another Tracy Jack McBrayer episode. Great. I can't wait.

[June Diane Raphael]

And there's no. There's. I mean, so little serialized storytelling. You can drop in and out of it wherever you want. You don't have to follow it all. You know, it's. If we still existed in a time where syndication was a thing, this show would be massive. You know what I mean? I know in that same way, just

[Paul Scheer]

like, get so bummed because the one thing that I feel like we love is more episodes like we want. I agree. It's a bummer because we're getting eight, then you're waiting a year. And it's like, you know. Yeah, it just. It's like there's too much time, especially

[June Diane Raphael]

for those kind of shows like 30 Rock, where really all I want to do is hang out with these people more. I'm not interested in more story. I'm not interested in more mystery or more mystery box or. I just want to hang out with these characters that I like more because that's the kind of show 30 Rock is. You're just. You're walking around the literally 30 Rock, bumping into all these absurd storylines.

[Paul Scheer]

Perfect.

[June Diane Raphael]

I want that forever, you know?

[Paul Scheer]

And I finally was able to put some salve on the Brooklyn nine. Nine itch of my youngest son. Oh, good. I should say the wound. He's not been able to commit to another show. And I've been trying and trying, and then we hit 30 rock. He's like, I like it.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was like, oh, good.

[Paul Scheer]

So we Are.

[June Diane Raphael]

Here's what I'll say if you get there, I will reiterate my absolute fandom for Girls5Eva, which is almost all of the creative team, is so, so funny. And then now the new show, the Rise and Fall of Reggie Dinkins, I

[Paul Scheer]

think is what it is. Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is the only one episode is up now. It's on Peacock and it's hilarious. The first episode is so funny. And it's a lot of the same people that are behind. It's a Robert Carlock. It's a lot of the same people that are behind 30 Rock.

[Paul Scheer]

And you got. Daniel Radcliffe is like a documentarian who is making a show on Tracy Morgan and Bobby Moynihan's in it. And it starts.

[June Diane Raphael]

Bobby is so funny in it.

[Paul Scheer]

It's so good. It starts in February, but you can watch the first episode now and it's a really. It's great.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's great. It's very worth the watch our good

[Paul Scheer]

friend Phil Jackson from Dinosaur.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, writer on it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, writer on it. So it's a good. Yeah, it's a good one. And again, it's great to have solid comedies.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Oh, I have a solid comedy. Can I recommend a comedy special that I absolutely crying at, which is Sarah Sherman's special live and in the flesh.

[Paul Scheer]

I was just about to write.

[June Diane Raphael]

Incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

I watched this on Sunday. It blew me away. I was like, I want. Like, no one was in the room with me when I was watching. I was looking down at me like, are you seeing this?

[June Diane Raphael]

I was crying, laughing. Truly crying tears of joy. Laughing. This is such a funny special.

[Paul Scheer]

She is. And you know, look, I read that article in New York magazine. You know, she like. Oh, I did. Okay. There's a great article in New York magazine and there's this like a very nice. Where a little moment where she talks about the pretty girl wig that she's always forced to be in these pretty girl wigs on snl. And it's so funny because I know Sarah. I see her. I watch SNL every week and like, she is put in this role. She kills it. She's so funny on the show. But it is. No, you don't know who she is until you've seen this show. Like, this is her.

[June Diane Raphael]

This is before she was on snl. Her comedy Persona was called Sarah Squirm.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, and it was all of this gross out body horror comedy.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, it's kind of like John Waters by way of Pee Wee Herman. Yeah, Peewee Herman.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. Like a fucked up Pee Wee Herman type of a body horror. Like. Like, there's. She's just got, like. That was so Sarah Squirm. This special lives in that world. It's like, big, colorful, chaotic set, but with lots of just like, gross, tactile stuff. She really heightens every bit to not just absurdity, but to gonzo level absurdity. The fact that she has a foot pedal that just plays the Seinfeld bass line is never not funny.

[Paul Scheer]

Every time she hits it kills me. It kills me.

[June Diane Raphael]

I can't recommend it enough. It's one of the best comedy specials I've seen in years.

[Paul Scheer]

I think I was gonna say there is literally nothing like this special. You know, it feels very much like Julio Torres's special. Like, it's like. It's redefining what a special is. But I think what. What's different about hers is like, hers presents as a standup special that is completely twisted. If you just watch anything, watch the first five minutes once you get past the opening, which is just with John Waters. Oh, yeah. But her, like, entrance onto stage and those first five to 10 minutes are just like a machine gun fire of like, what the fuck? It is. It is.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's so nuts. There's so much going on, but it seems so effortless, and it's so funny. She's so comfortable bouncing between all of these very intricate elements. You know, it's very hard, what she's done, and she's making it look not only so easy, but so silly. And it's incredibly impressive.

[Paul Scheer]

It's effortless, it's artful, it's fun, and it's. I think, honestly, it's, like, inspiring. As somebody who, you know, I think that we've watched stand up for such a long time that we're just like, okay, we understand what stand up is, like, what a standup special is. And, yes, we've seen some brilliant reinventions of that. That. But this, to me, makes me go like, oh, there's a different way of doing stand up that. I mean. And again, is it all palatable? I have no idea. You may watch this and be like, I fucking hate it. And that's okay. I'd rather have more visceral reactions to. This is fucking nuts. Because that's what I think it is, and it's great.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, in that way, it feels like an outgrowth of. Of, like, stuff that used to be, like, the Gethard show or stuff that feels like some of the stuff that, like, Joe Pera does or stuff like, you know, like, there's. There's something about it that. That feels really interesting. And come. It's just a unique voice, I guess. That's all I'm saying. It's a truly unique voice.

[Paul Scheer]

There's a. There's a part of. Okay, so I would say, like, if Tim and Eric begat Eric Andre, Eric Andre has begat Sarah Sherman. Like, they keep on, like, kind of, you know, like, I mean, pushing. They're all unique, all brilliant, but it's like. It's just. They're each comfortable in their absurdity and their own voice in a way that you're like, oh, like, Eric Andre show. I've never seen anything like that. Until I saw it, I was like, this is fucking great. And now you look at this, I'm like, oh, I get why you opened for Eric. You are this. And, like, I get why it crosses over, but I also get why you are unique from him as well. So it's fucking great. I love it. All right, Jason, wonderful talking to you. We will check in again. All right, now that we've said goodbye to Jason, it is time to say hello to our next movie. Next week, we'll be going from an angel smoocher to a killer shooter. That's right. The winner of this year's Discord fan vote poll is the 2007 action comedy shoot Em up, starring Clive Owen, Monica Bellucci, and Paul Giamatti. Now, I will say that Even with over 2000 votes logged, technically the fan vote ended in a deadlock tie between Shoot Em up and the 2003 disaster film the Core. However, there was a little bit of foul play. Now, I don't want to sound like Donald Trump here, but I believe this fan vote was rigged because people switched up their votes at the last second to force a tie, hoping, I think, that we would do both films, that they would somehow make us feel obligated to them to do both. But here's the thing. The core was way too long. We're not gonna do that. And I did not think that Shoot Em up was a great choice. So you fucked around and you found out, okay, we are gonna do Shoot Em Up, a movie that I don't think Jason June or I believe belongs on this show. But you picked it. You picked it, and we're gonna give it to you. I gotta tell you, I love this movie, and I'm gonna be waxing poetically about it all next week. If you don't know anything about it, let me just say this. Shoot Em up is a Clive Owen movie where he plays a man named Mr. Smith who delivers a woman's baby during a shootout and is then called upon to protect the newborn from an army of gunmen. It is essentially like a Bugs Bunny cartoon meets John Wick. Paul Giamatti gives a amazing performance, I gotta say, Monica Bellucci gives an amazing performance. And we will talk about why Clive Owen was not raised up for this kind of non winking smart portrayal of this badass in a overtly comical action film. I can't get into it. We're going to break it down next week. Discord, you picked the wrong one, but you also picked a great one. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 67 score on the tomatometer. Roger Ebert wrote in his review, I don't need a lot of research to be confident in stating that. Never before have I seen a movie open with the hero delivering a baby during a gun battle, severing the umbilical cord with a gunshot, and then killing a villain by penetrating his brain with a raw carrot. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know if that's a review as much as it is a statement of fact of the opening scene of this film. And if that doesn't make you excited it, then I don't know what does. Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer. Hey honey, listen, I'm afraid that this business trip's going to take a little bit longer than I thought. These guys were stalking this lady. She had a kid. I couldn't just stand there. Oh my God, do we really suck or is this guy really that good?

[June Diane Raphael]

Who are you?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm a British nanny and I'm dangerous. Now here is the thing. Shoot Em up is not streaming free right now, but you picked it so I'm not gonna hear any complaints. It is available to rent on Apple TV, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube and Google Play. As always, you can try to find these movies on Hoopla Canopy and Libby, but guess what? It's not not. It's not there. So you gotta rent this one and I think you should. And I don't think you're gonna be upset about renting it, so go with God. Enjoy your pick. I can't wait to talk about it next week. It is a fun episode. Jason, June and I getting into this film. Anyway, that is it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media, TTGM and a big thank you to our producers, SC Molly Reynolds, our engineer Casey Holford, our Social Media manager, Zoe Applebaum, and our intern Quinn Jennings. And we will of course be forever thankful to the one and only Avril Halle. We will see you next week for Shoot Em Up. Amazon presents Jeff vs Taco Truck Salsa

[June Diane Raphael]

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