Caller/Listener (4:54)

But.

Paul Scheer (4:54)

But here's the thing. We talk to you, the audience, we get suggestions about your life, and then we improvise a show around you. Every show is different, every show is unique. And here's the thing. To see a bunch of These improvisers coming out of LA or New York to do this show is truly a feat. I mean, we bring a big crew with us. Edie Patterson, Danielle Schneider, Rob Pupil, Jason Mantzoukas, myself, Owen Burke, Mary Holland. I mean, so many great people. This is truly a spectacle that we don't know how much longer we can do it, but when we get to do it out on the road, it is our favorite thing. So you can get tickets@hdtgm.com as well for that. Now, I want to say that, you know, last week we learned a lot about Jason, or we made a lot of educated guesses about Jason. But you know what? Not all of them are right. As a matter of fact, some of them downright wrong. And you let us know. That's right. You fact checked us. And now it is time for you to take the stage. In something I like to call corrections and omissions, Hit the theme Setting back on friction In a world of contradiction Sneeping up the ugly truth Is all a state in the shun Sorting through the stinky pile of operational positions Makes.

Jason Mantzoukas (6:13)

Us do why we like it all directions and ambitions.

Paul Scheer (6:16)

Thank you, Casey Campbell, for that theme song. It rocked. All right, let's go to the discord. George Glass writes, as someone that rewatched all the Friday the 13th this week, the only reference I caught to the actual Friday the 13th date is in the first movie. It's an offhand super 80 yard line towards the third act where the cop and the owner of the camp talk about how it's a full moon and Friday the 13th so all the crazies come out. Now, my understanding is that Sean Cunningham came up with the poster title, first sold the distribution a la Corman slash Ken films, then came up with the story, and then filmed it cheaply after. Now, I presume that they realized in post the plot had no references to the actual date of Friday the 13th and it was added just so people wouldn't complain or be confused. Now, you know, that's really interesting to me because I'm wondering if at one point they just had a movie. Maybe it's called Camp Crystal Lake.

Adam Pally (7:16)

And.

Paul Scheer (7:16)

And then the studio's like, let's release it on Friday the 13th. It'll be spooky and scary. So then because of that, they retroactively make it Friday the 13th. Cause I can't imagine coming up with a concept and then forgetting to add it in. Right? It's like one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. I don't buy that. I buy that the studio released this on Friday the 13th. And now let me check if. If that is actually true, because I can solve it immediately. Well, Nope, it was May 9th. I was totally wrong. And guess what, George, you were right. So, wow. Okay. Not going to try to figure out anything more about this franchise because it doesn't make sense. How do you sell a movie called Friday the 13th and then that's the afterthought? Oh my God. Grudlin writes. Everyone does their version of the Friday 13th noise, mostly, but the noise is officially per Wikipedia. Howie Manfredi was inspired by the 1975 film Jaws, where the shark is not seen for the majority of the film, but the motif created by John Williams cued the audience as to when the shark was present during scenes and unseen. Manfreddy was also inspired to recreate a similar sound for Friday the 13th, and he came up with the sound of Kiki Ki Kiki Ma ma ma ma ma. Based on the line Killer mommy, killer Mommy, which Mrs. Voorhees recites repeatedly in the final reel. Killer Mommy. Wow. Wow. Learning here, people. I'm learning and I'm loving it. Danny, the wall. You remember Danny with the alt movie tagline? Well, Danny comes back and goes, the Muppets were not the first to take Manhattan. June's instincts were correct. The phrase I'll take Manhattan is often the starting line for the song Manhattan, which was a part of the Great American Songbook canon of jazz standards. The term dates back as far as 1925, so it was a long part of American culture before the Muppets claimed it in 1984. Yeah, that was a dumb. That was a dumb goof up on us to say the Muppets. You're saying this started in 1925? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Makes sense. Makes sense. Let's go to the phones.

Caller/Listener (9:39)

Hey, Paul, just got done listening to your Jason Takes Manhattan episode, and I kind of wanted to answer a question for you guys about Jason's powers. In the 2017 video game of Friday 13th, when you play as Jason, you can choose which Jason from which movie you want to play, and they have different powers or enhanced powers. And Part eight station that you can play as you get enhanced teleportation. So, yes, he can teleport in that movie. And also, a little fun fact about part six, when Tom McLaughlin, the director, was originally hired to direct it. He wanted to make a Cheech and Tron crossover this Friday the 13th, but Paramount said absolutely not. Keep up the good work. And also if you do another Friday 13th movie, definitely do five where it's not even Jason.

Paul Scheer (10:33)

Love you all.

Caller/Listener (10:34)

Take it easy.

Paul Scheer (10:35)

Whoa, Whoa. That's how I responded to your voicemail when I was listening to it. I love that the Jason in the games, they acknowledge it. Like, everyone knows that this doesn't make sense, so let's have fun with it. And I kind of like the idea that every Jason is different. Every Jason is a product of its own time, even though most of them came out year after year after year. But you know what? You can change in a year. And Jason doing a crossover with Cheech and Chong is the best fucking idea I've ever heard. The fact that we did not get that, and we got, like, Jason versus Freddie, which is fine. Holy shit. But Cheech and Chong are like Abbott and Costello. Oh, I am mad. Mad. This makes me as mad as when I heard this week that Adam Driver was going to do a Kylo Ren movie with Steven Soderbergh. And Disney said, no. The fuck people don't. You know a good idea when it hits you? Hits you right in the heart. Lee from Ontario gave us a call, and guess what Lee said.

Caller/Listener (11:36)

Hey, Paul, regarding Jason Takes Manhattan, I think I might actually have an answer for Zoox in regards to what is Jason? So in the ninth Jason movie, Jason Goes to Hell, there's a part where the heroes of the movie are in the old Voorhees household. It's an abandoned old house that we've never seen in any of the other movies. And one of the guys picks up the Book of the Dead, the Necronomicon from the Evil Dead movies, and just kind of like, oh, that's weird, and puts it down. And, you know, I think it was more just at the time, supposed to be like a wink to the horror fans. Like, hey, look at this. It's. It's Evil Dead. We like it, too. But people started thinking, like, maybe that's what Jason is. Maybe he is a Deadite from the Evil Dead movies. And for people saying, what the fuck is a Deadite? It's like an evil spirit that can possess the body of a living or a dead person and turns them into, like, a zombie or, like a ghoul kind of thing. And so it was kind of, you know, not 100% like, is Jason the dead? I. But after Freddy versus Jason came out and made a lot of money, they planned on. They wrote a script for and everything, a Freddy vs Jason vs Ash from Evil Dead movie. So the fact that they were gonna actually link Them all into a shared universe. Kind of gives credit to the Jason is a Deadite theory. They turned that script, I guess, into a comic book or comic book series. But anyway, there is the closest thing, I think, to an answer that we are gonna get regarding. What the fuck? Jason Voorhees actually is another great collab.

Paul Scheer (13:24)

Oh, man, We. Jason is a tricky person to put in a mashup movie because he doesn't speak. Right. So you. You do need that other element, Cheech and Chong Ash. I mean, yeah, Freddy speaks and Freddie's great, but I. I like a human. Sorry. You know, call me what you will. I enjoy a human in there. And I know you're gonna say, well, Freddie is a human. I know, but he's not really a human. He's not like. I don't. I don't. He's. He's a ghoul. He's a ghoul based on a human. Anyway, next up, Stefan from New Brunswick, Canada.

Caller/Listener (13:59)

Hi. You were asking about the rules of Jason. I think Jason M specifically was asking the rules about. Try to keep this concise because there's a lot. First movie, he's a jump scare, not a dream. Don't worry about it. Second or third movie, he's mostly a dude who lives in the woods. No super strength. He moves mostly like a person. Sometimes he's actually agile. There's a scene where he jumps through a window to surprise some people. By four, though, he's so methodical, he does seem very terminatory. By 6, he becomes a ghoul. The only explanation is he's struck by lightning. There's not a lot of people who are beyond that, except I think they get to it in nine, and it makes no sense. Don't worry about it. Anyway, by then, he's a lumbering zombie terminator in terms of weaknesses. When he's a human, he just has human weaknesses. When he's a zombie, it's implied he needs to be trapped in the lake. And the idea of hydrophobia is introduced. I think it was in this film, the eighth one. They actually play that up later. They contrast that with Freddy Krueger so that Jason's the water guy and Freddy's the fire guy. As for what they want, Jason's targets are pretty much anyone who enters his woods seems to be killing for his mother, for whom he has, like, a shrine of her disembodied head. Anyway, after that, though, he seems more just like a sentry, just protecting Camp Crystal Lake from any outsiders. Very territorial. Dude, it's Also, why stories that take him out of the lake, like especially part 8, don't quite work because it seems like he would just be killing anyone in his way to get back home instead of, like, hunting someone down. So that's why the Han had to concoct the psychic bond between him and the other hydrophobic girl.

Paul Scheer (15:41)

See, Stefan, this is what we needed. A full breakdown. I appreciate this. I. I respect it. And. And I think you bring up some very good points here. Why take Jason out of the woods? I mean, we don't. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. All we need is a developer who's constantly buying that property and trying to relaunch dumb shit on it. I think it's fine. All right, back to the discord. Johnny Unusual writes, you guys are mentioning how it's better not to see Jason's face, and I agree. But actually, almost every movie has a face reveal, except for part seven. I found this chart to show how inconsistent the look is. Sorry if you are listening to this because that visual component doesn't help you in an audio medium, but I gotta tell you, this is worth looking at. We're gonna put this on our social media because it really is shocking how Jason has changed. I mean, odd, odd, odd. I mean, truly odd. Maybe what I love about this film is, like, there is no care of consistency whatsoever. It's not like, oh, they got better at the design and that first version looked cheap. No, it's. It's just wildly aggressively different. Age, height, body, eyes. Wild. All right. Scary. Mirage writes. You all mentioned that the kills, especially the ship's crew, seem strangely gore free. And that is correct. Paramount routinely had fights with the mpaa, which routinely demanded cuts in gore and blood to secure an R rating for each Friday film. Paramount was tired of fighting, cutting, and sometimes even reshooting kills. So for part eight, they decided to tone down the kills from the beginning. You can also see the error that Jason bloodlessly cuts the throat of the captain with the dull side of his machete. Oops. Wow, that is fascinating. Because even in the most bloody Jason films, it's not like that. I mean, I guess. Look, times have changed, you know, the conjuring. They gave it an R rating. They're like, why? There's nothing barely scary in here. And they're. That's the point. It's too scary. So the MPAA is gonna mess with you, and the mpaa, you know, might get Jason at their house. They better not go to Camp Crystal Lake. They're gonna be wiped Out. Cause Jason doesn't like to do reshoots. Rachel 99. And I'll say it the way that it's written. Rachel 99. If Jason's job is to protect Camp Crystal Lake, why don't they make a movie where he has to stop developers from turning it into condos? I'd watch that. Rachel, I just pitched. We are Simpatico Rachel. I love that. Yes. Why not take it out of the kids and let's kill more adults. Um, it's like that Woody the Woodpecker movie. Did anyone see that? Maybe I'm the only one. My kid, like, really liked it, and it was upsetting. It was a Netflix movie, and he's like, dad, this is funny. And I had to be like, you know what? It actually isn't funny. I don't ever do that to my kids. But that movie was just too dull for me that I was like, this is not funny. And it's actually gonna make you less funny by watching it. And he listened, and you know what? We watched Anchorman the other night, and he was falling off the bed. Should I show Anchorman to my child? Here's the thing. There's a lot of sex talk in all the shows that we watch, and that's about as bad as Anchorman gets. And it was a great way to kind of talk about, you know, how to treat members of the opposite sex and how far we've come and gone back to. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is truly the best. And you know what I gotta say? Is it the person who agrees with me that we see the same thing? I would go with that normally. I mean, is it Stefan who came in and just brought forth the true knowledge? Is it the person who told us about Manhattan? I mean, honestly, you all killed it. But I have to say, if I was to wrap up it all in one neat little bow, what's the fact that I'm going to walk away with? Well, you're going to be surprised. It's going to be grudlin. It's going to be grudlin. It's going to be grudlin. Because that ki, ki ki ki mama, mama killer Mommy is a great dinner table conversation starter. Ender. Who knows? I love it. That was great. And you know what, Gredlin? You don't get anything you can hold, but you can listen to with your ears. That's right. You get this amazing song, or I should say creepy song from Rob from Long island hit it. Look around this room and you see nothing before your eyes. That's when it hits you.

Adam Pally (20:26)

This creepy song is your only prize.

Paul Scheer (20:30)

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Adam Pally (25:20)

We call just chill. Yeah.

Paul Scheer (25:25)

Adam, so good to have you back on the pod. Not in an official way. This is a more of a straight interview, but we are so excited. You are a fan favorite. How did this get made?

Adam Pally (25:36)

That's very. That's an. What an honor to be. Yeah.

Paul Scheer (25:42)

Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas (25:42)

Secret. Secret of the Ooze is a. I feel like a legendary episode of the. Of the podcast.

Paul Scheer (25:48)

One of our first New York shows, I think, like, live New York shows.

Adam Pally (25:51)

That was just lightning in a bottle of, like. Yeah, my son was hitting Ninja Turtles at the time that we were doing it, and I was very, very literate. Liter. Literate in the language of the ooze.

Jason Mantzoukas (26:06)

You know, what is your son into now? Like, what should we gear your next appearance towards? What do you have expertise in now?

Adam Pally (26:13)

Jesus Christ. I mean, God.

Jason Mantzoukas (26:15)

Or any of your kids?

Adam Pally (26:17)

No, my son is into. He play. He plays defensive line on the football team.

Jason Mantzoukas (26:21)

Oh, yeah.

Paul Scheer (26:22)

I love this.

Adam Pally (26:22)

It's so cool. In New York City, so. It's really cool. Like, practice is always so cool to me, like, the beginning of a romantic comedy or something. When I'm waiting to pick him up, you know, it's like I bump into, like, another, like, a mom. I'm like, oh, hey, you know, hey, what's going on? Yeah. Because it's, like, overlooking Tribeca. It's so beautiful. But he plays defensive line. Then he. He just booked the lead in. In the play, so he's, like, amazing. The coolest kid in school, kind of.

Paul Scheer (26:50)

I love this.

Adam Pally (26:51)

And into.

Jason Mantzoukas (26:52)

And I like that you think the romantic comedy that's happening is for you. Oh, I'm still. It's clear.

Adam Pally (26:56)

I'm a hero.

Jason Mantzoukas (26:56)

It's clearly happening to him. Of course.

Adam Pally (26:58)

You got it crazy how I cannot. I can't get over that in my life. I guess that's true narcissism that, like, even when.

Jason Mantzoukas (27:05)

Oh, yeah. I'm like, that's just main character.

Adam Pally (27:07)

Yeah. I have it so bad when you're.

Jason Mantzoukas (27:10)

Unequivocally faced with someone who's excelling at every level, and you're like, but I'm still the name.

Adam Pally (27:16)

Well, to be fair, not many of their dads are up on billboards. You know what I mean?

Jason Mantzoukas (27:21)

Sure.

Paul Scheer (27:21)

You know, look, it's the journey. This is the. You know, you're. You're looking at it like, oh, yeah, this is my downside. But Then I'm gonna be coming up. This is where, you know, this is where everyone starts to recognize the billboards go up and all of a sudden the rom com starts.

Jason Mantzoukas (27:32)

Exactly.

Adam Pally (27:32)

You know how it goes. It's like I'm just getting my confidence back after the car crash that killed my wife because obviously she's dead in this.

Paul Scheer (27:40)

Yeah, yeah, she has to be dead. And now, Pally, I have heard about you doing this show around New York and LA for a little while now. And everybody that has seen the show that you have done, which is now going to be a special on hbo, which is out right now that you can watch, came away from it in this way where they're like, you have to see it. It is unlike anything. And I would be in conversation with people who are like, well, is it stand up? And like kind of. It's like, well, is it like, well, is he like playing songs like, yeah, kind of. Is it a one man show? Kind of. And the one thing that seemed to be the common denominator in hearing about this show was this revelation that you have at the very beginning of the show that your parents were lounge singers. And I've known you for a very long time. I never knew that about your parents.

Adam Pally (28:37)

Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas (28:38)

I only in fact have known your father as a physician. I know, you know, that's the capacity that I feel like I've met him in under same.

Paul Scheer (28:47)

And it's such an interesting thing to kind of pull out from your. Your past. And I think that honestly that's really the basis that you should go into the special knowing that you. That your parents did this. And what, like from what ages were they lounged?

Adam Pally (29:04)

They. Well, they were. They started their band Pally and Pal.

Jason Mantzoukas (29:08)

While.

Adam Pally (29:13)

My mother was at Hunter University.

Jason Mantzoukas (29:16)

Wow.

Adam Pally (29:17)

And so my father had already dropped out of Binghamton, so like I'm gonna say like 20 and 19.

Paul Scheer (29:23)

Oh, wow.

Adam Pally (29:25)

And yeah, I'll get you. After I tell the story. I'll get you. I have their headshots hanging over there, which I'll get you guys.

Paul Scheer (29:32)

I love it.

Adam Pally (29:33)

Wild. But so. And then they had me relatively young and they and my sister. So they were like, you know, we lived in Stuyvesant Town, which was only happened because they were, you know, they were artists and they had a subsidy to live in Stuyvesant Town.

Paul Scheer (29:52)

Stuyvesant Town is kind of amazing. It's this artist community. Or you have to make less than.

Adam Pally (29:56)

Like I like a 50,000 a year.

Paul Scheer (29:59)

Yeah. And you can live there and it's a Pretty amazing idea that would psych. It would allow artists to live in New York City without having to like, live in New York City or like. Or pay the living cost.

Adam Pally (30:11)

Pay the right. And that's where we. Where I grew up. And then, and then when I was around 7, 8, my dad had had a couple close call auditions and some close call, you know, bookings with music. And. And it just kind of hit him the wrong way and he decided he wanted to go back to medical school. So he. He went back to medical school at 33.

Paul Scheer (30:38)

Wow. And isn't it wild that we come from a time. My stepdad, that my mom remarried later in life, he was a concert pianist and he got the chance to audition for Carnegie hall, like, and played, got rejected, was like, well, I'll never play piano again. And went back into studying psychology and just never and only would play if no one was in the house.

Adam Pally (31:04)

Right.

Paul Scheer (31:05)

Like, it's such an interesting thing where I think, I think we would be like, oh, we got some close calls.

Adam Pally (31:08)

Yeah, we're close.

Paul Scheer (31:09)

We're.

Adam Pally (31:10)

Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas (31:10)

That must mean I'm on the right track.

Adam Pally (31:12)

Oh, yeah. I mean, we were just talking about like main character syndrome. For me, I would still be walking around being like, well, this bubble is going to burst any second. You know, like, I got the next one's right around the corner.

Jason Mantzoukas (31:22)

Oh, wow. So did your dad then just become a hobbyist musician or did he stop playing music?

Adam Pally (31:29)

He stopped playing.

Jason Mantzoukas (31:30)

Wow. Oh, God. Oh, that's heartbreaking.

Adam Pally (31:32)

Oh, wow. It was heartbreaking. But we, we, we had a piano in our house. We bought an old piano when we moved to Chicago because he did enough work that he could get through pre med in a year and a half. And he was really good at it, he found. So then after pre med, he got a scholarship at University of Chicago, which is a really prestigious university. And my mom was like, yeah, let's go. And so we moved to Chicago and she worked at a bridal shop in Skokie, Illinois, which actually is still there. And we shot and used this holding on Mr. Throwback, which was.

Jason Mantzoukas (32:13)

Oh, that's so crazy.

Paul Scheer (32:15)

It was, by the way, Mr. Throwback, great show. You Steph Curry.

Adam Pally (32:21)

Awesome.

Paul Scheer (32:21)

It's such a great, I mean, great Eggo. So funny.

Adam Pally (32:26)

Yeah. But like, that was a thrill to go back to Skokie and like shoot that in, like on the street and everything. But so then we, we were there from the time I was like 8 till like 11 till he finished medical school. 11, 12. Which is why my accent is like, Wild, you know, which is why, like, sometimes I sound like I'm from the Lower east side, and then sometimes I sound like I'm from Chicago. And then at 12, we moved to New Jersey where he opened up a small practice in Fly Park. So it, it was like, you know, a lot of moving around and stuff. But that was, that, that was his.

Jason Mantzoukas (33:05)

Yeah, his life.

Adam Pally (33:05)

That was the life. You know, it was a different time. It was like things were more. Were easier to do.

Paul Scheer (33:10)

Yeah.

Adam Pally (33:11)

Shift gears. You could take on debt.

Jason Mantzoukas (33:13)

Sure.

Adam Pally (33:14)

You know, like mix mistakes.

Jason Mantzoukas (33:16)

You could take a chance. You could take a chance on yourself and go and open a private practice or figure something out, you know, and.

Adam Pally (33:22)

The amount of chances he took on himself is wild. And they also, you know, sometimes they, they were good and sometimes it was hard, but they, you know, worked out.

Paul Scheer (33:32)

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Adam Pally (36:16)

This is right after Bernie Madoff.

Paul Scheer (36:17)

Right after. Wasn't like, no, this wasn't like.

Adam Pally (36:19)

Yeah, yeah. This was like the week of the.

Paul Scheer (36:22)

Story 100 topical bit. Yes. And. And you proceeded to collect money from the audience for, like, a trial fund or. Or, you know, for. You basically do a pyramid scheme with the audience and then left with the money that you collected. And it is one of the fun. And people are like, well, wait, he's definitely coming back. There's gonna be a part two of that. Nope, it was. You took the money and you left. And there was this just this vibe throughout the entire show. Cause you were on pretty early where it was like, whoa. But now. But now and no, there was never. And that, to me, kind of sums up where you will go. Your commitment to bits, your idea for, like, comedy. It's one of the most memorable bits in a sea of bits that I've ever seen. And I feel like this show kind of combines, I think, parts of you that people are very familiar with and parts of you that are probably not known to that many people. Cause I don't know if people know what your live bit Persona is, or when you and I hosted some event for Jimmy Kimmel and we sang the Entourage theme song to Doug Ellen for three minutes, you know, to get him to donate some money.

Adam Pally (37:33)

Turns out we were on the right side of history there.

Paul Scheer (37:35)

There it is. And you know. And so you, like. I just think that this special is something incredibly unique because it is, without giving much of it away, it's you talking about your life. It's you doing bits. It's you singing songs, like, as an homage to your parents. And it's just this incredibly Interesting mix that's kind of surrounded by this doc footage that reminded me of, like the pilot episode of Curb youb Enthusiasm, where you're following Larry, getting ready for this big gig. We're following you. It's incredibly funny. These voicemails that you see throughout the show are great. And I was talking to you before we started recording, I was like, I hesitate to say anything too specific about the show for fear it is a spoiler because from the minute it starts, you are on this journey and you don't know where it's gonna end. And it's funny. And the rug is being pulled out, it's being pushed under. You have firm control of what you're doing. I haven't seen a special like this, and I think that people who want to see some sort of an interesting, different comedy special. It's not a standup special, it's not a music special. And look, I'm going to tell you, I have a thing for comedians putting guitars on, and I was prone to not enjoy this, and I found myself absolutely loving it.

Jason Mantzoukas (38:57)

No, it's great. I think the special to me highlights one of my favorite things about your comedic Persona, which is that you are a deeply unreliable narrator, especially. Especially as it refers to your own life. And I feel like that is on display, like, full stop in this thing. This thing is top to bottom, classic pally mischief. And that. That's what I like about. That's what I love about you, is you are a deeply committed mischief maker. And the whole show is so funny. But I just love how you're constantly setting up and undoing yourself, and that is a delight to watch.

Adam Pally (39:40)

I don't know what to say. I am really moved. You guys are my heroes, and it's wild to hear that. I really, like, hear your guys voices in my head whenever I make something. So it's really nice to. To hear that you. You liked it.

Paul Scheer (39:58)

Well, it's incredibly unique in a sea of things where people are, like, starved for what's different. How do you create something that's alive? How do you create something that feels like, I think what Jason and I love. Maybe I'm not. It's like this idea, like you can't always communicate like these. These shows that we see that we love. Right. Because they're not just. They're not perfect for tv. But you created something that I think speaks to a special but also feels incredibly intimate and. Yeah, incredibly unique, but it's also.

Jason Mantzoukas (40:30)

It's yours. Like watching it and you had even. We've Taught you and I have talked about it, what the show is, and in a way, I was like, oh, I wish we hadn't talked about it only so that I could receive it, because what it. Like, what a del. It really is. It is you.

Paul Scheer (40:47)

Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas (40:47)

You know, in every way. It doesn't like to even be like, oh, there's these jokes or there's these songs, or there's this. This is just a pally show.

Paul Scheer (40:55)

Right.

Jason Mantzoukas (40:56)

And that is pretty rad.

Adam Pally (40:57)

I, again, like, I feel seen, you know, I was really wanted to have something. I feel like you guys understand it, especially coming from the world that we do. It's like, I need people usually. I. I always need people to, like, do what I do. It's. And sometimes that can be incredibly frustrating when you. When you don't have access to. To the people that you want, you know, or anybody sometimes. And so I just wanted to, like, make something that was, like, felt it was like somebody's album or. You know what I mean? Where it's like you. You look at a moment in time of like, a Bob Dylan record or something, and you're like, oh, that's what.

Paul Scheer (41:41)

That's.

Adam Pally (41:42)

What was that in that moment in time for that person.

Jason Mantzoukas (41:45)

Incredible.

Adam Pally (41:46)

And part of me feels like that's what these specials should be, right?

Paul Scheer (41:51)

Like.

Adam Pally (41:52)

Or some of their version of them. Like, they don't all have to be like that. Like, they're the most amazing joke writers of all time. But, like, I look at Anthony Jeselnik's last special, and I was like, really, really inspired by that. Like, he. Yeah, he's a joke machine. But then he goes deeper and it's like, you know, but it's all him. And it's like, again, like, you could put, you know, it's like you can visualize the jacket and you can visualize the. The image, and you're like, oh, that's that record. And I. I don't. I never had anything like that. I just had the. These moments that we've had on stage that were created to go away.

Paul Scheer (42:29)

Right?

Jason Mantzoukas (42:30)

Yes.

Paul Scheer (42:30)

Our.

Jason Mantzoukas (42:30)

Our chosen art form is ephemeral, you know, like, everything we've done. I mean, not everything, obviously. We've all been on. On TV and stuff like that, but, like, the vast, vast, vast majority of hours logged for us are improv shows. Ephemeral. That night, only nobody's taping it. Nobody sees it again.

Adam Pally (42:48)

And that's that. Both of you guys, like, I've seen, like, Jason. I mean, you. Jason, you've made me cry. Doing an Improvised scene with Jessica. You know, we're literally, the audience is, like, gasping for air, laughing, and then the next moment hysterically, like, crying and holding them because of something you said, you know, that, like, caught to the point. And Paul, like, the first joke I ever saw in improv was, I. I can recount it to you now, which is, like, I would say we put it up there in the hall of fame of, like, Simpsons jokes, which was the. It was a respecto scene. And Hubel. There was, like, this horrible thing happened in a village, and Hubel was running away from the village, and someone put down a sign that was like, don't go this way. Go the other way. And then someone put down another sign after it that was like, that last sign is a liar. Go this way. And then you came out and were, like, affordable signs to build and sell.

Paul Scheer (43:50)

Oh, my gosh. I mean, like.

Adam Pally (43:53)

And that's good. No, I mean, like, the audience for both those shows, probably 11 people, maybe, like, you know, and, like, I was there, and it was like, lightning, and it's like, genius. But you don't. But no one gets to. They take it with them in the fee, in the feeling of it, and they try to recount it, but it, like, doesn't hit the spot.

Paul Scheer (44:14)

Well, this is why I love that, like, improv and different types of shows now are getting more traction. Like, it used to just be, like, the only way you could go out on the road is to do a standup show. Then I think podcasts entered into that equation, and now I think it's expanding to bit shows. You know, shows like, you know, we're doing improv. Like, the idea of doing improv on the road, I think the joke was early on, in those moments where we were all doing this, like, you could never take this on. There's nothing here to take on the road. Like, what are you. What are you selling? And it's so. I think. But people just want this idea of a moment. Like, we experienced something together. It's incredibly unique. No one else will get it. And I love standup, and I think it doesn't take anything away from standup, but it allows you to go. Like, if you saw five improv shows in five different cities, it would feel like a completely different show. And that's part. And the audience makes that up. Everything makes that up. And this show that you did, your special captures that vibe. And I think it's the intimacy of the Doc crew that you have following you to get you behind the scenes of the artifice. Of what this even is, you know, what the special is. And then I think that that's something that I think other people have done, but you do it in a way where you are aware of that camera and making it very entertaining and not like also navel gazing. Cause I've seen that too. Like the, the, the serious version of the doc behind the thing.

Adam Pally (45:42)

No, yeah, yeah, no. Well, I think it's also. Well, two things with, musically and Jason, we talked about this a lot. Like, you know, I am a hip, like not even a heavy nouveau hippie of, of that generation of like Fish and the Dead and, and Dave Matthews and Pearl Jam and like that there's a feeling you get specifically. Or Jack White to White Stripes. Like there's a feeling you get from going to those shows where you don't know the set list before.

Paul Scheer (46:11)

Right.

Adam Pally (46:12)

And you know, and it's like it creates a community because the people like who saw it one night are telling you this could be it. And then, and then they're saying this could be it and this could be it. And it's all these. There's a question there that's unanswered until the, the lights go down. And even, even the best stand up comedians, that question is answered beforehand. Even though you're not hearing the material because of the format, right? Because it's jokes, it's one person with a microphone. It's presented in this way where it's like, this is my act, this is this year's act, and this is next year's act. And this is my act. And you're getting what Des Moines got, but you might get it a little better because I learned what laughs or didn't, but you're getting the same act. And part of that is, is like, you know what we came up. Like, I would rebel against that all the time. I'd be like, well, I can't do that.

Paul Scheer (47:09)

Right.

Jason Mantzoukas (47:10)

Classic, classic palette.

Adam Pally (47:13)

But I wouldn't be like, I can't even imagine myself doing that. You know what I mean? And then as you get older, you're like, oh, well, that's an art. Like, that's a Broadway show. That's a one man show. That is a talent that is so specific. Those lines are memorized, those emphasis are. Or the timing is perfect. It's been worked, it's been rehearsed, it's been figured out. And what I like about a jam band is that it's not. And so it's like, well, how do I take, how do I get that feeling of what we do into that.

Paul Scheer (47:43)

I think it's like, I'm leaving the house and I'm paying money. So why is this special? Because if you can go. If you go pay money to see a movie, it's gonna be out on. You can watch it at home within the course of probably three weeks. So it's like, why are you making me go out? And. And it's like, well, why are you making me come out to see this comedy show? It's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's. And again, they're all different, obviously. Like, you could go see, you know, the same material and it's done and it's fine, but it's like. But there's something about these shows that feel more alive and in a way that it's just like, oh, maybe he'll fuck up. Maybe this will go off the rails. I don't know. And I think you keep elements of that. This show feels. It's only. It's shot in one day, but it doesn't feel crisp around the edges in the right way.

Jason Mantzoukas (48:31)

Yeah, I think one of the things that I really loved about it is the special. Because the special, inclusive of the show and the black and white documentary scenes is what this is to me, which is a perfectly shaggy hangout special. But the. The idea that you cannot, because of licensing issues, show you guys actually excelling at playing the songs.

Paul Scheer (48:57)

Yes.

Jason Mantzoukas (48:57)

Because unequivocally, the thing. You're there and are doing the best playing these songs very well. Clearly you've got Dave Hill there. You've got a great band there. You're not allowed to show that. So all we get access to is your. Your. Your fragile mind and. And the. Everything.

Adam Pally (49:17)

My recollection. Right, yeah.

Paul Scheer (49:18)

It's like you're telling someone about the show, which is kind of brings it back to what I was saying. This is the show that so many people have talked to me about as you've been doing it. Have you seen Pally's show? Oh, yeah, that was great. Oh, my God. He did this. He did that every different person. Because I think it felt like, oh, he's gearing up for something. I don't know what. And. And you. In the past, you've done this too. Didn't you have, like, a show where you were doing, like, wine tasting and clothes shopping? Like, yeah, like, you know, like, you know.

Jason Mantzoukas (49:44)

So, like, you know, remind me, Pally, will you just tell us about the movie you did with Fred Armisen and Zoe Lister Jones?

Adam Pally (49:50)

Yeah, it was called Band Aid which Zoe wrote and directed and did everything, the music and everything. And I had to learn again, Like, I got the part by, by playing a song. Like, you know, it wasn't necessarily an audition process, but it was like, can you play a song and sing? And I have rudimentary guitar skills from, like being in high school and playing, you know, in a couple bands, but.

Paul Scheer (50:15)

Because your dad did not want you to like, your dad.

Adam Pally (50:17)

My dad did not teach me.

Paul Scheer (50:20)

Like, when you say that in this, it made me laugh so hard when you said like, like your dad, like your dad could have like, yes, given you a little something.

Jason Mantzoukas (50:29)

But no, I miss that. I will say this. The part in the special where you and your dad play together is wonderful and hilarious.

Adam Pally (50:36)

Oh, yeah. I love, I love that moment. And I love the moment after where I'm yelling at him and then it gets like a little tense. Is like one of my favorite moments in the special. But, but yeah, no, I, I had to learn again how to do it, and then I had to learn how to play in a band. And then we did these shows, these like, big shows. And that was, this was like 10 years ago. And it was like, really eye opening because I was like, oh, I, I like this. And, and, and I, I've always been embarrassed that I play guitar. And, and because of Paul, like, what, what you said, like, I'm the most hyper critical of every comedian on the planet, right? I, I, anything that is foreign to me, I immediately don't. Like, I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, I need to be warmed up. And so I've all had that thought a million times where I'm like, what am I gonna do? Go out on stage and play guitar? Like, like, that's not comedy. That's, you know, what a crutch, you know? And like, and I think I, I changed on that view because of like, exactly we were saying before. It's like, well, who cares, right? You know, and if this is part of the premise of what I'm doing, then you gotta pick up a guitar.

Jason Mantzoukas (51:58)

Yeah.

Adam Pally (51:59)

And, and that was kind of. And it was kind of like, I don't know, it was kind of like being like, yeah, I am one of these guys, you know.

Paul Scheer (52:06)

Well, now let me ask you this. I don't want to put you on the spot here, but you did workshop this primarily at the Rahad Comedy Festival. Now I do want to give you a moment to just talk about why you went there. You know, just get that off your chest, you know, I want to. I want to. I want to just hear it from you.

Adam Pally (52:23)

Well, I went there for money. I went there for money.

Paul Scheer (52:30)

No, he's. Adam is not.

Adam Pally (52:32)

I have not been. I'm hesitant even to make a joke. Like I don't even know.

Jason Mantzoukas (52:37)

Paul, you did say you had three gotchas for Pat.

Paul Scheer (52:39)

Yeah, I got. I got two more. Two more coming up. Two more coming up. Don't worry. I space them out. So get comfortable. Again, you did talk about you want.

Adam Pally (52:48)

To see my hegseth tattoos.

Paul Scheer (52:50)

No, but that's just. Cause you did like the Fox News show. You talk about being uncomfortable. And I will tell you that one of the things that has caused so much drama in my household is a show that you are currently on right now, the Great American Baking show. The celebrity Halloween edition. It's you, Patton Oswald, Leslie Jones and Rachel Dratch. Hosted by our friend, friend of the show, Casey Wilson and Andrew Rannells. Yes. Now, June, I think we will be the first to say this show gave her like a full on panic attack, nervous breakdown. So much so that we have not watched it. We're not allowed to watch it.

Jason Mantzoukas (53:26)

Nor has Junes come out.

Paul Scheer (53:28)

Oh, yes, it's out.

Adam Pally (53:29)

Junes came out. They warned me about June.

Paul Scheer (53:30)

Yeah, See on Roku.

Adam Pally (53:32)

Yeah, June. I was first of all. I was. I wear this with a badge of honor. People brought June's name up to me, behavior wise, many times.

Paul Scheer (53:43)

See, I love. I like this.

Adam Pally (53:44)

They hadn't seen my sort of behavior since June.

Paul Scheer (53:51)

Well, that makes me not want to watch this because I'm not allowed to watch the other one. So you can watch that on the Roku channel. And what a great crew because you have Pat and Leslie and Dratch on there.

Adam Pally (54:01)

That was so fun and so stressful. Like I will. I do empathize with June. Like, it is stressful. Like you think it's going to be casual and you think it's going to be. But then they're extremely harsh about the judging, which hurts no matter what. Right.

Jason Mantzoukas (54:14)

Like, and the judges are the same as Hollywood improve.

Adam Pally (54:19)

Right. But it's not like Celebrity Jeopardy where the questions are toned down. It's like the same thing.

Jason Mantzoukas (54:24)

It's not easy. Like what Ike Barinholtz has to do.

Adam Pally (54:27)

Yeah, no, I see those questions. Didn't graduate high school.

Jason Mantzoukas (54:32)

You're telling me.

Adam Pally (54:32)

Celebrity Jeffrey Illuminati. But yeah, like, it was totally. I was, I was totally stressed out. There's so many rules. There's so many bees. You're cooking outside for God Knows why. Reason.

Paul Scheer (54:46)

Right.

Adam Pally (54:47)

Like, I, I don't understand why they do that. Like, and it's just production is hell. There's like hay fever. Like, British hay fever. Everyone's like, sniffling and being like, right, we're doing this in the willest possible time.

Paul Scheer (55:00)

Well, then why, why, why do this? We don't need the tent isn't part of the show anyway. That is like, again, that is a blast. Out on Roku. And your podcast with Gabrius has been a delight to listen to you two together. I love Gabrius. I love you.

Adam Pally (55:17)

Oh, he's the funniest. Thank you.

Paul Scheer (55:19)

And you guys, it's called staying alive. And it's basically you're talking to some wellness experts. You're also talking to some people about how they stay, how to stay healthy. You're getting to a certain age. There's a moment where you just kind of. I was listening to Flanny talk about this. Flanny, who runs Largo, was on Marc Maron. It's a great listen. If you've not heard that, it's awesome. But just like, you get to a certain age and you start to worry about these things, like, what do I have? What am I trying to get rid of and how do I do better? And I love the podcast because it's one of these podcasts I think you can take away valuable things from without it being like, oh, my God, I'm about to die. Or I'm. Or I'm so freaked out that I'm changing everything in my life.

Jason Mantzoukas (56:04)

Well, it's got that thing which is. It's a great. It's about health and wellness and all that kind of stuff in that space. But it's hosted by YouTube dummies.

Adam Pally (56:13)

Yes.

Jason Mantzoukas (56:14)

Which is all I really want to hear is you and Gabris chopping it up. Sometimes it's with a scientist or a doctor or an expert, and then sometimes it's with Mike Mitchell from Doughboys or Carl Tart or people that you guys know and hang out with but nonetheless are still going to talk about their, their, you know, like how, how, how in shape they are or whatever, you know, whatever version of their health journey. And that's what's fun, is to hear it through your guys lens.

Paul Scheer (56:40)

Absolutely.

Adam Pally (56:41)

Thank you. Yeah. Like, we don't know what we're doing and we don't. We're not. You know, I feel like the average person is just trying to swim, like, swim through a sea of ads and recommendations and, you know, doctors prescriptions and non doctor Prescriptions. It's like the, the, and, and everyone just wants, everyone's just scared of dying, which is so empathy. Like, you know, it's just that's, that's all it is. Everyone's just so scared of dropping dead. And so we'll, we'll do anything to like, prolong that. And I.

Paul Scheer (57:17)

The same.

Adam Pally (57:18)

And so talking about that thing is kind of freeing in a way because we're all walking around with our little medicine bags, you know, with our little routines, but we don't want to.

Jason Mantzoukas (57:29)

Oh, you mean my am PM pill case that now sits on my kitchen cabinet?

Adam Pally (57:33)

Oh my God, you should see mine. I, I, I take pills as the amount of pills that I take daily it. I should be sitting in a nursing home with a bike helmet on. But like, I just don't want to keel over yet.

Jason Mantzoukas (57:46)

Yes. Part of the problem is our, the, the, the, the we're so focused on billionaires and ext. And all of this kind of stuff. And all of those people believe that their money is going to keep them alive forever. And what everybody should instead be recognizing is we are all going to die and we should. I wish all the billionaires were like, let me instead demonstrate how to live a full life and how to die responsibly. Wouldn't that be great?

Paul Scheer (58:16)

Well, and by the other, the other thing is like, hey, look, I guess I'm going to live forever and I'll be so fucking miserable because my days are spent not enjoying anything. It doesn't seem like there's any joy in their life. It's like, just to live, like. And I've seen a lot of older people.

Jason Mantzoukas (58:33)

So cool. You've seen a lot of older people. That's awesome.

Paul Scheer (58:35)

I mean, well, I pay for it. I pay for it and I get great footage. I get exclusive stuff. But like, the truth is, is like, well, what good are you if you're alive and none of your friends are? Right? Like, it gets progressively more and more lonely. It's not like, oh, I don't want to die today. Of course you don't want to die today. But you know, at a certain point you're like, well, I think, I think I've done my time here. I've figured it out. I'm ready to go.

Adam Pally (59:00)

Do you remember the scene in White Lotus where the last one where, like, there's a party going on and the dude is just like, sitting in the house in Thailand, the older guy, and he's like, watching and, and he knows that his, that his like, young French Wife is off with the boys. And like, that reminds me of like the Jeff Bezos wedding.

Paul Scheer (59:19)

Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.

Adam Pally (59:21)

You know what I mean? Where it's just like he's 40 years older than every guest at that wedding, and they're just like partying and spending money. And I doubt he has, like, more than like one or two close friends there. The rest are just like celebrities or billionaires or whatever that, like, interact with him transactionally and stuff like that. But there, no matter how full the night was, there was a moment where he was sitting there alone and he was like, holy, I'm gonna die. You know, that's it.

Jason Mantzoukas (59:46)

It used to be that it took a show like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous or something to give us access to the, the extreme wealth, to pull the curtain behind, like, you know, it used to be when you got to be that rich or wealthy, it meant that you could retreat from society. You could retreat from. You could buy a private island, you could retire.

Adam Pally (60:09)

It was gauche. It was gauche to show people your.

Jason Mantzoukas (60:12)

House and now to not just, not just. Is it like, so in fashion to demonstrate so outrageously your wealth, demonstrably show it all the time on social media or whatever. It's also weird that all these billionaires, now that they are so wealthy, all they want to do now is be so popular.

Adam Pally (60:31)

Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas (60:31)

They just want to be loved. They want to be loved across the board and immortal.

Paul Scheer (60:36)

Yeah.

Adam Pally (60:36)

And they want to live. They. And because it's like every.

Jason Mantzoukas (60:38)

And they want to be funny because.

Adam Pally (60:39)

I think they think they're outrunning their old selves in a lot of ways. It's like the longer I stay around, the less people will remember what I was. And this is who I am now. And I'm not even that person anymore. A lot of them are so delusional. You know what I mean? Like, so I, I, that's the, the, One of the most fun things about the podcast is like, finding out that a lot of the health industry is like, snake oily.

Paul Scheer (61:03)

Yeah. Well, it's always been, I mean, so much of it. I mean, it's like this idea of, like, this, the diets, the diets that are going to change everything, you know, and it's. And I always think, like, whenever I see somebody do it, I'm like, well, at the end of the day, just like exercise a little bit and just try to have a little restraint. You don't have to go full on anything. But people are like, no, no. Now my whole life is only this and then that lasts for six, eight months or two weeks or whatever it is. And then you go. You fall back. It's like, it's built to kind of pull you back in.

Jason Mantzoukas (61:33)

Yeah. One of the things I like about the podcast, too, is, again, you guys are just. It's. It's one of the things that's on display so much is the same thing that I loved about 101 places to party before you die.

Paul Scheer (61:45)

Oh, my gosh.

Jason Mantzoukas (61:46)

That's the travel show that you and Gabrius also did for, I believe is maybe now on hbo. Max.

Adam Pally (61:51)

Yeah, hbo.

Jason Mantzoukas (61:52)

Okay. I cannot recommend it enough. I've recommended it on this show before. It's fantastic because it's a travel show and of course I love a travel show, but really what I loved about it is it is a show about male friendship. We are. We talk all the time right now about like, oh, loneliness epidemic. Men have no friends. Men don't know how to have friends. The. You and Gabris are so effortlessly demonstrating male friendship in a way that is so fun and also so funny on that show. And I feel like that comes through into the podcast as well. But also then is in service of, you know, talking to experts and talking to doctors and all this other stuff.

Adam Pally (62:31)

Stuff.

Jason Mantzoukas (62:31)

But in a way that's so much more approachable than if you just were to dial up a. Another interview with that same. If you were like, I want to talk to a sleep doc. I want to hear a podcast with a sleep doctor because I'm having trouble sleeping. I'm the version of it that you guys do. Incredible. You know, because that's, you know, I want to hear two regular guys try to parse this out for them, you.

Adam Pally (62:56)

Know, Truly, no joke.

Paul Scheer (62:57)

Joke.

Adam Pally (62:57)

Truly, no.

Jason Mantzoukas (62:59)

Yeah.

Adam Pally (62:59)

Freaking joke. Like one of the hardest things to crack. And I feel like, true. An American struggle. Like, I know it happens around the world, but they're. But like, we are not addressing, like, people dying in their sleep.

Jason Mantzoukas (63:14)

Yeah, no, it's crazy. But, you know, and that's. Those are the kind of conversations that I think are necessarily. Especially for middle aged guys like us. But, boy, is it fun to listen to you and Gabris chop it up with people.

Adam Pally (63:27)

I'm obsessed with it. I just want what we talk about. It's what. Whenever I see a friend and they look good, I'm like, what are you doing? What's. What's going on over there? You know what I mean?

Paul Scheer (63:34)

It's normalizing. It's normalizing that kind of conversation that I think Especially men don't have. I don't want to generalize it too much, but I think that that's. It's a good. It's a good thing out there, and it's one of many good things, Adam, because right now we can watch your special. We can listen to your podcast. We can watch you bake on the level of June, which makes me more excited than anything.

Adam Pally (63:55)

Well, I don't know how to bake. Behave.

Paul Scheer (63:57)

Behave. Okay, got it. Got it. Well, I am so happy, dudes.

Adam Pally (64:03)

Thank you so much. I'm sorry I cried again. I feel like every time you guys have me on, I cry, but it's really caught me off guard, and I love the show.

Paul Scheer (64:12)

Is great. You are fantastic. Always doing such great, great stuff. You're the best, buddy. Love you.

Adam Pally (64:18)

Thank you.

Paul Scheer (64:19)

All right.

Jason Mantzoukas (64:19)

Love you, buddy.

Paul Scheer (64:20)

Thank you, Jason and Adam, for just chatting with me. But now it's finally time to announce our next movie. Next week, we'll be going from a Jason in Manhattan to a Jason on Mars. Wait, what are we doing? Freddy in space? Oh, no, no, no. We're doing Jason Statham on Mars because we're watching the 2001 film John Carpenter's Ghost of Mars, starring Jason Statham. Ice Cube, Natasha Hendrich, Clea Duvall, and Pam Greer. I've never seen this movie, and I am so excited. Here's IMDb's breakdown of the plot. 200 years in the future, a Martian police unit is dispatched to transport a dangerous prisoner. But when the team arrives, they find the town deserted and the remaining inhabitants possessed. Oh, hell yes. Oh, well, now. Oh, hell no. Because I just saw that Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 23 score on the tomatometer. And Bruce Fetz from Entertainment Weekly said it's disheartening to see the master of horror bringing himself to both write and direct a film with such a prepubescent understanding of horror. Ooh, Bruce, that one hits low. Don't do that to John Carpenter. He demands your respect. By the way, I had a friend saw him in concert. That dude is the best you ever see him. Just smoke cigarettes and just play video games and talk to Robert Rodriguez. It's. He's the coolest motherfucker of all time. I love John Carpenter, and I will not have anyone speaking ill of him. But we will speak ill of this movie. You can stream Ghost of Mars on the Roku Channel, but don't just stream it yet. Why don't you get a little taste of it by listening to the trailer?

Adam Pally (66:01)

It was supposed to be A routine.

Paul Scheer (66:04)

Prisoner transport, Williams was arrested on the suspicion of murdering six rail workers. The bodies were hung and decapitated. But here, a million miles from home. Hello? They're about to discover nothing is what it seems.

Jason Mantzoukas (66:24)

What the hell is going on out there?

Paul Scheer (66:27)

Whatever used to live here, we woke it up. It takes us. I'm talking about. About a kind of possession. Don Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars. All right, now, the Ghost of Mars is not just available on the Roku app. It's also available on, get this, the Criterion channel. Yes, and Apple tv, as well as Amazon Prime. In addition, I encourage you to check out Hoopa Canopy and Libby. Oh, I love Libby. Which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, eBooks, and comics for free. All right, that is it for last looks. If you listen on Apple podcasts or Spotify, please remember to rate and review us. Please rate and review us. It makes this show go higher in the algorithm and that's important nowadays. Also, make sure you're following us so you have automatic downloads turned on and that allows you to not miss a damn thing. You can follow us on social media and see what our brand new social media master, Zoe Applebaum, is doing. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sahni, Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer, Avril Halley, as well as our engineer, Casey Holford, and our brand new intern, Quinn Jennings, who worked tirelessly on this episode. We'll see you next week for John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars. Wow, it's hard to do two plurals back to back. All right, next week. Bye for now. Hi, I'm Jenny Slate and believe it or not, someone is allowing us to have a podcast. I'm Gabe Liedman. I'm Max Silvestri and we've been friends for 20 years.

Jason Mantzoukas (68:02)

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Paul Scheer (68:06)

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Paul Scheer (68:15)

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