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Morning, Zoe.
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Got donuts.
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Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?
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Well, I dig the mattress and I.
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Want to be in a T mobile.
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Commercial like you teach me.
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So Dana. Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.
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Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.
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Nice. Je free. You heard them. T mobile is the best place to get the new iPhone 17 Pro on us with eligible traded in any condition. So what are we having for lunch? Dude, my work here is done. The 24 month bill credits on experience beyond for well qualified customers + tax and 35 device connection charge credit send and balance due if you pay off earlier Cancel Finance Agreement. IPhone 17 Pro 256 gigs 1099.99 A new line minimum 100 plus a month plan with auto pay plus taxes and fees required. Best mobile network in the US based on analysis by Oklahoma Speed Test Intelligence Data 182025 Visit t mobile.com ABC Wednesday Shifting gears is back. He has arisen. Tim Allen and Kat Dennings return in television's number one new comedy. What what? With a star studded premiere including Jenna Elfman, Nancy Travis and. Hey buddy. A big home improvement reunion welcome. Oh boy, that guy's a tool. Shifting Gears season premiere Wednesday, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. Are you ready to get spicy? These Doritos Golden Sriracha aren't that spicy. Maybe it's time to turn up the heat. Or turn it down. It's time for something that's not too spicy. Try Doritos Golden Sriracha. Spicy but not too spicy. Find out how long it takes June and I to watch task, the rules about smoking in medical facilities and a film whose post production took 37 years. All this and more on today's how did this get Made? Last Looks hit the theme. I took a look.
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My name is Pa and I did not like what I saw. But you know, we gotta look again. Last looks.
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Last Looks. Hello, all you twins with psychic connections. It's me, Paul the Ripper. And welcome to how did this get made? Last Looks. Where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Jack's Back. A movie that discord user afed thinks should have instead been called a tale of two spaders. Okay, I like it. Thank you aphed for that movie title wouldn't it be great if they just started completely disregarding character names and, and specifics for the titles of films and just started calling them by the actors that were in them, like, you know, Denzel Train movie. First of all, don't know why I'm referencing Unstoppable. I think that movie came out like 15 years ago, but maybe it would bring more ants to the cinema. Speaking of which, do you think people were upset this week when they saw like the, the Mandalorian and Grogu trailer? And then I think for a large grouping of people, they may have been confused. They may have been like Grogu, who, Who's that? You know, shouldn't it be like Mandalorian and, and Baby Yoda and that's what I'm getting at, people. Let's dumb it down more, okay? It's not enough. It's not enough that people are considering putting television shows on TikTok in 90 second intervals. They're called microdramas, by the way. Have you watched a microdrama? These things are nuts. It's like the drama of 80s late night TV like Dynasty and Falcon Crest mixed with like the acting of porn back when porn cared. All right, a big shout out to Judy Ford. Wow, we're still in the opening for that opening theme song. Thank you, Judy. Remember, if you have an alt movie title or tagline, submit it to us on our Discord at Discord GG hd. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM and click the Submit a song button on our homepage. And remember, keep them short. If you're listening to the show, you know what you like. 15, 20 seconds, that's what we want. Okay, big show today. Tom Sharply, host of the Best show, will be joining us in just a bit. If you don't know Tom, you might remember him from our Avengers episode. But if you're not listening to the Best show, what are you doing 25 years on the air? We're going to talk to him about his Grown Ups 3 script which he wrote on spec over a weekend that got a lot of buzz online. And he's going to tell us how it got to a lot of the members of the cast. We also are going to talk about the Best show tour. Also, I guess this is a great time to mention how did this get made Is going on the road. We're going to be in New York and we're going to be in Philadelphia. But that's not all. And Dinosaur is going on the road and we have A great cast. Okay. Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones. You got Danielle Schneider from Garbage World. Oh, yeah. You also have Mary Holland, who is amazing in everything that she does recently on Ghosts Me, Jason, Rob Hubel. Rob Riggle is joining us in dc. So come see Dinosaur in Boston, dc and by the time this recording, maybe even New York. Just check out hdtgm.com for our tour info or go to Dinosaur Improv or go to my website. There's plenty of places for you to get the links for the tickets for these shows that are happening in November. And if you just want to come see us in Los Angeles, you can do that too, because we have shows October 22nd and 23rd at Largo and a dinosaur show on the 24th. Boy, oh boy, I love doing live shows. Just kind of want to continue giving some love to Avril Hallie, who is recovering from brain cancer. Avril is one of our, you know, support beams of the show. And I am just constantly blown away by the amount of love that people have been sending her way. Whether it's an email by emailing her partner, AndrewViebitches X, Y, Z, or by snail mail. People have been sending wonderful things to her at PO Box 641, Agora Hills, CA 91376. She appreciates it and we have been getting some really amazing updates. She is on the mend and recovering and so we just want to continue to send her love. All right, let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about Jack's back. Well, we had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Hit the damn theme. Corrections and omissions are not what words you want to hear from us. Don't disconnect the discord. Do elude accountability. Then how could your fans express just how we feel? Your dumb words are all you had to say to be so wrong. Now Paul has to eat some shit and say we're right, but we all ready. No. Thank you. Benjamin Helton, for that theme song. I loved Extreme. Extreme. Well, I don't know if I loved them. I liked them. Was Extreme the band that had the two trains crashing out of the station? Was that the COVID of the album? I think. I don't know. Why am I asking you? You can't answer and I'm not going to Google it. So if I'm wrong, please send me a written letter. I will open it in a Couple of weeks and I will look at it with shame or delight. All right. On the discord. Ghostbag says this is the reason for the constant haze in this film due to everyone in it smoking. Cigarettes are constant. From Sydney smoking in the doctor's office to. To. By the way, I'm really going on sides. I just saw Jaws, the 50th anniversary of Jaws. There's some smoking in the ER in that movie as well. Wild. The amount of cigarettes, I. I would say, yeah, the j. Jaws is a problem, but secondhand smoke is really, really the issue in that movie. Okay, so they say, yes, Sidney was smoking the doctor's office to the customer that dark Spader assists in the mall shoe store. I was 13 in 1988 and I lived in California, so I do remember people smoking in public places, but never inside medical facilities and stores. Weird times. Well, yeah, look, if it was in Jaws, I'm going to believe that people were smoking in ers. Hell. People are smoking on planes. I mean, if you look on most planes, they still have that ashtray thing there, as if it might come back. And who knows, the way things are going lately, you know, one day someone could be like, yay. You know what? We actually figured out smoking in an airplane is good for your lungs. Actually, you should smoke in an airplane now. And we'll do it and it will just be back and people will be upset about it, but we'll just have to embrace it. Megan writes, Second Sole is actually a shoe store that I go to in Akron, Ohio. It is indeed a running shoe store, and it's distinct from the chain of other running shoe stores in Northeast Ohio, also named Second Soul. The chain of stores predates this in the movie, which makes me wonder if Rowdy Harrington was driving through Ohio one day and decided to put it in the movie. Well, Megan, if you're telling me that there are two chains of stores called Second Soul in Ohio, I just feel like it's people being really lazy about naming their shoe store. Like, and by the way, Second Sol means, is it just a shoe store for shoes that you're not wearing on the reg? Anyway, I love it. Dove writes, as Paul discussed. Oh, I love when it's about me. Paul discussed. The original plan was to call the movie Red Rain, but they couldn't get the rights to Peter Gabriel's song of the same name to run over the opening titles. So Harrington scrapped this idea and had a sound alike song made. The new song was Read Harvest, but he didn't call the movie by that name. He went with Jack's back instead. Why? Because if they'd gone with Red Harvest, they would have been using the title of a famous Dashiell Hammett novel to make a completely unrelated movie. Hammett's Red Harvest did inspire Kurosawa's Yojimbo, which in turn inspired Sergio Leone's A Fistful of Dollars and the Bruce Willis movie Last Man Standing. Good movie if I remember it correctly. Remember when we made a lot of westerns like there was a time like in that early 90s, like the quick and the Dead, Tombstone, Wyatt Earp, Last Man Standing. And there's that other one. There's another one in that mix too that was kind of popular. Yeah, we really got Bring Him Back. We haven't made a Western in a long time. Somebody go make that. Maybe I will. Anyway, let's go to the phones. What do we got? First one up is. Oh, my favorite caller. Anonymous hey Paul, longtime fan. Love you guys. Love your show. Love the league. I'm a longtime Cubs fan and you seem to wonder why there was a Cubs reference in your latest review of Jack's Back. And that's because from I think it was from like 1921 to 1951 the Cubs did their spring training on Catalina island and Wrigley, a senior, he bought the PCL Angels and constructed essentially another Wrigley Field in la so you can search it and find it and all that good stuff. So I hope that answers your question as to why there's a Cubs tag and why there's a Cubs link to la. Anyway, love the show. Love you guys. June is great in weapons and I look forward to seeing whatever you guys do next. Talk to you later. Wow. First of all, great, great observation. I don't think it was that specific. I think it the path of least resistance is that he could have been born in Chicago I guess. Was it established where they were born? I don't know. I don't think anyone is a fan of a team that does spring training on Catalina Island. I mean I know that the Dallas Cowboys practice in Oxnard. I'm not seeing a lot of cowboy fans out here. Anyway, I love that deep research. Thank you. Anonymous Next up, Peter from New York. Hey, how's it made love the show. Just wanted to do one small correction round. Was watching Jack's Back with my wife and during the film and after the film she and I discussed multiple times how odd it was that in the 80s the warded up foosball man was doing these back alley abortions because abortion in the 80s in California was deathly legal and the sex worker did not need to pay $200 for an abortion hotel room because she could have just gone to Plant and Parenthood, which was, I'm pretty certain, still in operation. So that makes almost no sense. Maybe less sense or maybe just as much, just as little sense as the noose being ready in the weird church auditorium in the hospital. Anyway, I love the show. Can't wait, you guys come to New York. Have a good one. Wow, good question. Well, Peter Dove from our Discord actually had the same question as you and rewound the movie to find out an answer. You see, Dove says that Sydney, aka Dr. Shouty McAsshole, shouted at the sex worker at the clinic and said she was two weeks past the legal limit. So that's why she had to rely on Jack for the abortion. Although she didn't appear to be that pregnant in the scene. So she would have to be 24 weeks pregnant. I would imagine you are showing at 24 weeks. So again, let's get into it. I need to know more about the abortion laws in California and especially the abortion laws back then. But you know what? I feel like we have gone so deep on this and I'm so impressed. I don't think we can top it. So maybe we just switch up this segment right now and go to a quick ask Paul. That's right. Chance for you to ask me an unrelated question to Jack Spack. So, Mel, what's on your mind? Hey, Paul, how you doing? I just had a couple quick questions for you. Number one, I've noticed throughout the years that you and June have very distinct laughs, but they seem to mimic each other. Yours seems to be more like when you're laughing really hard, it's like. And June is more like. So I'm just curious, who adopted whose last pattern? Did you start it when you first met? And she started when it first met. You know, it's almost like when you adopt a pet and you start to look alike, one of you is copying the other. So I'm just curious, who is the origin source? The second question is, I'm a huge fan of Shark Tank, also a huge fan of the Profit. I know you're a fan of the Prophet as well. And now there's a new Marcus show called the Fixer and I'm watching it now on YouTube. You can find all the episodes for free. Easy peasy. It's a little bit different, but I'm just curious, what are your general thoughts on The Fixer. Again, thanks so much for doing the podcast. I've been to your live show many times and huge fan, brother. Take care. Interesting. I've never noticed that. Maybe we do. That's very cute. I love June's laugh. Well, okay, well, I'm now gonna pay attention to it. I'm not gonna tell June. I'm gonna do a little research on my own. I have not watched the new Marcus Lemona show the Fixer. I love Marcus. We were gonna have Marcus on the show at one point because we were just huge fans. I should. I should watch it. I. I don't have. I wish I had a better answer. No. The answer is no, I have not watched it. And I was thinking, why haven't I watched it? I was like, well, I really don't even watch TV anymore, so I'd really have to go out of my way to find it. I had no idea that it was called the Fixer. And. And is it different than like Bar Rescue or is it like the same thing as Bar Rescue? Either way, you have now gotten me very excited to watch a brand new show. Now can I convince my wife with the same laugh to put aside task a show that we are really getting through at a slow pace? Because for June and I to watch a show together, she'll normally fall asleep during an hour long episode. So it takes us, I would say three days to get through a 45 minute to 60 minute show. We very rarely watch shows together. We have decided that task is the one. And I have watched the first episode now. Wow. Four times. Got better and better. I did. I went from being like, I'm okay with this show to actually, I think I like it. Now I'm in. I do like the show. And that is someone who has watched episode one a handful of times and is on the third viewing of episode two. All right, back to the discord. Rocket Wesker writes, when they said Dark Spader was an army medic, I thought the movie was going to make him utilize his medical skill in some way, like impersonating his brother at the clinic or using medical knowledge to analyze the evidence in crime scene. But no, it's just used to make police think that he's a suspect. And his medical skill was never brought up again. He used past gangster skills and shoe salesman skills to solve the case. But army medic, not so much. Thank you, Rocket Wesker. Good call there. Dang Tootin. Regarding Paul and Jason's reminiscence of the 1980s doll, my buddy, I have a great Story to share. For the first years of my life, my parents always referred to my penis as a buddy for some reason. Okay, sounds like a Paul story. And now they might be, you know, like, hey, you're holding your buddy. Do you have to pee naturally? I assume that a penis is called a buddy. So you can imagine my 8 year old shock when I first saw the commercial for a doll called my Buddy. The next day at school I went up to my friends and said, have you guys seen that commercial from my buddy? I can't believe that. And they were like, what's the issue? And I was like, the toy is named after a penis. And everyone was like, what the hell are you talking about? And that's when I started to question the validity of buddy being a euphemism for penis. And I saw my parents in a different light.
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Ha ha.
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Dang Tooten. Great story, Great share. Very Paul Sheer coded and I appreciate that. And that's gonna really weigh in today as I take stock of who had the best correction and omission. And I gotta tell you, you know what? It is going to be dang tootin because never in the history of this show has someone shared their own Paul story. Yeah, people have come out of the woodwork to say that they, you know, kissed their mom and they want to support me in that. But no one ever put it in a corrections and omission. So dang tootin, you are our winner. And Rob from Long Island's got a great theme. Hit it. Hey you. Congratulations. You won a nice vacation and an in ground pool and a car. But we gave it away to a charity because we all know just how selfless a person you are. But we don't want to send you away empty handed. That's not what this all is about. So here, take the garbage with you as you leave and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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You win.
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All right, Stick around because when we are back we got Tom Sharpling and some other really fun surprises. Remember, if you want to leave a message about the movie that we're talking about. Not like an old movie, just keep it, you know, current. You can go to our discord and you can always give me a call, ask me a question about life, Marcus Lemonis or leave a correction in omission about the movie that we talked to at 619 P A U L A S K. That's 619 Paul Ask. And by the way, I want to ask you a question. Are you watching the Dark Web? Every Monday, Rob, Hubel and I take on the Internet. That's right. And we have some special shows coming up. We've broken format and oh man, I can't even tease it until we get there. But it's going to be. It's one of my favorite things that we've done. I can't wait. Hopefully it comes out good. It's a big swing. Anyway. We'll be right back.
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Morning, Zoe.
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Got donuts. Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?
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Well, I dig the mattress and I.
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Want to be in a T Mobile commercial like you. Teach me. So Dana. Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.
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Wow, impressive. Let me try. T Mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network. Nice.
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Jeffrey, you heard them. T Mobile is the best place to get the new iPhone 17 Pro on us with eligible trade in in any condition. So what are we having for launch? Dude, my work here is done. Your 24 month ubil credit on experience beyond for well qualified customers plus tax and $35 device connection charge credit send and balance due if you pay off earlier. Cancel Finance agreement. IPhone 17 Pro 256 gigs $1099.99 and new line minimum $100 plus a month plan with auto pay plus taxes and fees required. Best mobile network in the US based on analysis by Oaklove Speed Test Intelligence data 1H225 visit t mobile.com Summer's heating up and so is the action with chumba casino and 2311 racing. Whether you're trackside with Bubba, Riley and Tyler or cooling off at home, the fun never stops at Chumba Casino. The the online social casino packed with free to play games like slots, blackjack and more. Jump into summer@chumbacasino.com and score your free welcome bonus. 2 million free gold coins and 2 free sweeps coins. No purchase necessary. VGW group void where prohibited by law. CTNC is 21 + sponsored by Chumba Casino, a PSA from Instacart. It's Sunday, 5pm You've had a non stop weekend. You're running on empty and so is your fridge.
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You're in the trenches of the Sunday scaries.
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You don't have it in you to.
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Go to the store, but this is your reminder.
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You don't have to.
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You can get everything you need delivered.
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Through Instacart so that you can get what you really need. More time to do whatever you want. Instacart for one less Sunday. Scary. We're here. Hope you are checking out our matinees. All right. Because every week we put up an old episode. This week we did Deadfall, which was a Nicolas Cage film, right? One of the most unhinged performances from him. And next week we are going to be talking about the Mariah Carey flop Glitter with Adam Scott, Casey Wilson and Dan Levy. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. Okay, but now enough about all that. Let's have a chat. A chat with somebody that I think is truly an inventor of the podcast game. And I feel bad calling it a podcast because Tom Sharpling has been doing the best show for 25 years. Started off as a radio show on WFMU. He is a writer who has worked on such varied shows as what we do in Shadows and Monk. He has a brand new show coming out with Matt Berry from what we do in Shadows and. And Natasha Leone. We're talking about that in just a bit. But more importantly, he's going to be taking best show on the Road to celebrate this giant anniversary. So without any further ado, please welcome to the show, the one, the only, the great Tom Sharply. For the last 25 years, this man has been running truly a pioneering show. I'm not even calling it a podcast because it didn't even start as a podcast. Started a radio show. This is entertainment. It is every Tuesday. It's live. It's great. Tom Sharpling, happy 25 years of the Best show. Wow. Wow, wow.
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That's too much. I can't. I did something wrong, Clearly.
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I mean, this is the thing about you, Tom, and this show. You're a radio man. You're just. You're a radio man.
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Yeah, I'm just an old DJ sitting in the. Like Wolfman Jack in American Graffiti.
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Yes. Ooh. In the dark. What? Tom, just because I feel like the show is such a phenomenal meld of whatever you're interested in doing in that moment and talking through bits or talking through bits. Like what were. Like, what did. What did you listen to? Like, was there stuff that you. Were you a. Someone who was like, oh, I am, like, listening to Phil Hendry or I am, like, listening to, you know. Or is it like just a regular. It's Howard Stern or it's like terrestrial radio or whatever.
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Yeah, it was a lot of different things. It was. I didn't Listen to Phil Henry. That was a West coast thing. And I was New Jersey. And then when I heard about Phil Hendry, I was like, strangely enough, I was like, I don't want to hear it because I feel like it would be too much of an influence. I've kind of never heard Phil Henry to this day.
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How about Joe Frank? Joe Frank, Joe Frank.
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I heard plenty of Joe Frank on wfmu because they aired Joe Frank on.
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That's how I used to listen to. Yeah, that's, you know, that's. It was incredible.
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And Joe Frank was, was about what you could do with audio to me, in terms of like he was doing a completely different thing that I would never even be able to do. But I knew it was like, oh, this guy's taking full advantage of the medium. And that was the exciting part of that.
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And for people who've never heard the show, I just want to give them an idea of what they're in store for every episode, or at least the idea like you're going to come in with a topic, whatever that topic might be. You're going to introduce a topic, you're going to be talking to people and then somewhere in the middle of the show you're going to get a phone call from an interesting character, somebody who might, you think, oh, this person this is calling in. A lot of them have hailed from Newbridge, New Jersey. And you'll interact with this character. And this is like the centerpiece of the show or it's like when I first started to listen to you, I was on these CDs. I had these CDs. The best of these phone calls. It's you and John Wurster, who you might know as the. Used to be the drummer for Super Chunk. And these are some of the funniest big sketches. They remind me of Nichols in May. They remind me of, you know, interview with the, you know, was it 1,000 year old man or 2,000 year old man? Yeah, 2,000 year old man. You know, like it has that vibe where it's like these long 30, 40 minute bits that they start off in one direction and then they just morph and you're just in this zone and these characters come back. It's so much fun to listen to and opposed to many other shows and even Phil Hendry himself. It's just you and John. So it really is this duo. It's not like, oh, and next week you have in so and so and they're doing a funny call. I think that that's one of the Things that makes the show kind of so fun and unique too.
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Oh, well, thank you. That's. Yeah, no, John and I hit on something early and other. Like there were stretches where other people called in and do funny stuff, like John Benjamin would do stuff. Sam Cedar and John Glazer and Andy Earls and. But then there was a point where I was just like, the thing that me and John are doing is the thing. And I kind of need to just focus on that being the thing and doing that was just kind of validated the thing that me and John have. And then we were just partners forever.
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It's so fun. Just listen to it. Listen to a best show. You're 25 years, you're going on the road.
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I'm very excited about it. We're going to do the Bell House and New York and LA and Chicago and Philadelphia. It'll be super fun because we don't. John lives in North Carolina and I used to live in New Jersey and I lived in Nauman, Los Angeles. So we've never done the show from the same place outside of like a very small window where John lived in New York. But we're not together for the most part and this will be us being together. So it's pretty.
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Pretty. That's very. So it's really unique. Yeah, that's cool. I. I would love to see that. That's great. These shows are 10, 11, 10, 12, 1013, 1015 and 1021. That's Brooklyn, Philly, LA and Chicago. Now I do. I want to go in a different direction just for a second. For people who don't know, not only are you this, this showman, but you also are a great writer. You've written many television episodes, you've created shows. But the thing I think about a lot, and I was referencing it just the other day, was you wrote a script for Grownups 3 on spec. Just you embrace the universe and, and got a grown ups 3 spec out there. Which I have to say, it was, it was one of those bits. I mean, is it a bit? I mean, is it. I don't know, is it a bit? I don't, you know, could work. It could work. This grown up story could work.
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I was going through a thing at a point and, you know, it came down to ultimately was, you know, when you make a joke with a friend and then you're just like, oh, what if this existed? Can you imagine that? And you joke about it and you laugh and then there's always that moment where you're just like, what if I actually did write that. And then you're like, no, I'm not going to actually do that. But then I was like, yeah, I'm kind of got some free time right now and I'm enjoying being by myself. Like, I guess it's not a great stretch. So I just spent a weekend and I wrote it over a weekend. I wrote like this 55 page script in like two days. It just poured out. And then it was Jason Walner, who was the person I was joking about it with. And then I was like, hey, Jason. I wrote that script and then. And I sent it to him and he was like, this is insane.
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Oh my God.
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And then I started sending it around and then people are like, it turned into like this weird Rorschach test with Adam Sandler. Some people were just like, read it. And then they go, oh my God, I hate Adam Sandler so much. And I can tell how much you hate him because of this script. And other people were like, man, I love those movies too. And I can just see there's so much love for what he does in here. Like, people saw what they wanted to see in it. It was really fascinating.
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Well, I think that you captured a tone that is like. And I guess either way that you look at it. Have you. Have you? Like I go to the mat for Hubie Halloween. I think it really made me laugh. It's a very funny movie and people get mad at me for saying that, but I am not taking it back.
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Well, they should not get. Paul, they got to cut you some slack with this, you know what you're talking about. It's a. It's a fun movie.
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Fun.
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It's fun.
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I will not, I will not stand here and let you guys promote Hubie Halloween one more second. Because we all know Huble. It should be. Huh? It's true, by the way. We're not just referencing something. You cannot read the. If you go to the. The Best Best show for Life website, you can read Grown Ups 3.
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It's around.
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Yeah, it.
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Yeah, it was one of those things where like, it started to like, make it make the rounds a little bit.
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Yeah.
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And then people who were in it. Some people read it. Who are in it.
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That's what I was gonna wonder next.
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Yeah, I know Nick Swartz didn't read it. He was just like, this is funny. He said, there's a funny script floating around Grown Ups 3. And then David Spade, I heard read it and thought it was funny. But then there was the point when talking to Adam McKay and he's just like, should I send it to Sandler? And then I was like, oh, I don't know about that.
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I don't know.
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And then it made it to Adam Sandler through another channel. Through more of, like, through the Safdie channel than I have. And more or less. I think it might have. It might have. I don't know how it got there, but I know that someone in that camp heard him at one point go, what's the deal with this Grown Ups 3 thing?
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A
And quite a bit of your Grown Ups 3 script ended up in Uncut Gems, right?
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B
Pretty much. I'm right now arbitrating with the Writers Guild about. No, it was.
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They've got our best interest.
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It didn't. Of course they do. No, we. We're heading back out, guys, to get your signs. I've got a few quips ready, and I'm ready to start walking on the.
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A
New. The new picket line.
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Oh, my God. When I walked, I was. I walked the picket line over by Warner. No, no, by Universal. By Universal. And it was like, first of all, I'm watching everybody. Oh, Jay Leno pulled up and had hot dogs or whatever. And, oh, here's so. And all these famous people. I walked that Universal picket line. First of all, I almost got hit by a car. Every day. It's. It was directly off the 101. People are pulling off that Lankershim ramp as if they're still on the highway.
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A
Didn't they cut back the trees there, too, so you guys would have no shade?
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B
I think that was the Warner Brothers one where they cut the trees.
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A
Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah.
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B
But this one, they didn't have to do anything to make this any worse. This was just bad. You know when you go past Universal Studios and there's that giant hill that goes up and, like, if you're gonna drive to the CityWalk or whatever, it's like, that's where we were picketing. I was there so many times. The only star power I ever saw at it was one Sklar brother.
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A
And you couldn't tell which one it was. Jason.
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B
I could tell. Thankfully, I could tell. I can tell who's the one because.
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A
He was wearing glasses.
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B
Yeah, and that's the trick with the Sklar brothers. Can't tell apart. Jason, he has glasses on. J A S O N. That's how you.
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A
Oh, wow. Okay. Got it.
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B
Makes me sound like Tony Robbins or something with, like, mind. Mind gymnastics.
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But that was it.
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One Scar brother once. Also, he didn't come back. He just, like. He Was like, this sucks. Nobody.
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A
I did hear. Now I will say I did hear he got hit by a car.
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So this is rest in power.
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A
Tom, the other thing that I feel like I just want to mention, I. I texted you about this. Now, Jason, you may not even know this. You know Tom has a new show. I did not know this. A show with Natasha, Leon and Matt Berry. Can you tell us a little bit about this show? Because it, it is. It got me so pumped when I heard about it. But, yeah, I'll let you pitch it.
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Yeah. For like a couple years I've been working on this thing. The idea of like doing this retro, the word retro is getting thrown around with it because it's, it's funny and stupid and that apparently means retro now because people don't want to be both of those things.
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Well, now people just are very comfortable with stupid, but they don't want funny. Well, it's funny because it's, it's retro to be two things at once. I was talking to somebody the other day who said that. Now when you, whenever you were talking about a comedy, you have to say it's meta. It's like, it's not meta, it's just. It's a comedy. No, it's like, I guess it's meta if you are treating it like a drama.
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It's. Yeah. Honestly, I'm not sure where people's heads are at with any of these things now. It just, it's like I thought like we all talked about a. Matt and me and Matt's producing partner about a show that would be British guy, American woman teaming up to solve crimes. And it was like a stupid Heart to Heart to me, like thinking of the legendary show Heart to Heart, which Robert Wagoner and Stephanie Power, Stephanie Bliss.
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Adam Scott and I did that. The greatest event in the history of television where we recreated the opening of the Heart to Heart theme song. Very action packed. Skiing, boating, you know, it's like, yeah, little spies, little spies running around doing fun stuff.
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B
It's the kind of show where a friend of mine described it as, there's a crime scene and then they show up, he's in like a tuxedo and she's in an evening gown and they're like, what seems to be the problem here, officer? Like, they're just inserting them. Like, like if two fancy people show up at a crime scene, like, get, get out of here. Go away. What are you. You can't come over here. But they do. They let them.
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It's kind of like an 80s riff on the Thin man in a way. Right. Like, you know, like. Yeah, without. But in the Thin man they're drunks and they're whatever and they used to be detectives, these people. They seem to be just living the high. They're stepping out of Dynasty in a way and then just kind of solving crimes.
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Yeah, it's going to be like old TV in the fact that it's going to just be, it's going to be really funny and it's going to be kind of like if you put a Roger Moore era James Bond with like a. Another person who's a lot tougher and, and stronger. So it's kind of, I love.
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A
Is it kind of. I mean, if we're, I mean, I know it's different than Natasha but like the way Roger Moore kind of teamed up with Grace Jones, an interesting pairing there.
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B
Yeah, it's going to be, I think it's going to really be funny and we're going to shoot it in Europe next year, so that'll be its own thing.
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A
Oh, that's cool as hell.
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B
Yeah. So I'm really looking forward to it. It's pretty exciting and it's like the best actors you could ever ask for.
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A
Matt Berry is the funniest. Heart to heart with Natasha and Matt Berry is, I mean like in that vein. Is that, that, that already has gotten me. Yeah, it gets me very, very excited. I am excited, excited that you were doing this and you know, maybe, and if it gets enough traction then Maybe that Grown Ups 3 script can go because I'm gonna tell you, my kids can't get enough of these Grown Ups movies. We've, I've watched Grown Ups 1 and 2, I would say conservatively in the last month, five times each.
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B
Okay.
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B
Well, that's a good question. I feel like now I'm in a weird, lame stretch and I'm just looking at albums on my phone.
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A
I'm gonna say both of us are huge Destroyer fans.
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B
Yeah. New Destroyer.
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A
Wait, what did you decide? Will you be seeing him this Thursday?
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B
I'm still not sure yet whether I'm gonna see Pulp or Destroyer.
- [42:53]
A
Good, good. I mean, it's an incredible problem to have.
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B
Yes, exactly.
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A
I will be at Destroyer. Very excited. And one of my absolute favorite records of the year, Dan's Boogie.
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B
Yeah. So amazing. And he finds, like, another gear. It's. Imagine if people, when they can't figure out Destroyer. It's like think about if Bob Dylan changed his sound every time he put an album out. Like, that's. What if he stayed Bob Dylan. Yes.
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A
But sometimes made a David Bowie record.
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B
Exactly. And it just. Sometimes it was a record with a cheap keyboard, and sometimes it's a record with the E Street Band.
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A
It sounds like sometimes it's a record with frog eyes.
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B
Yeah. It's just.
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A
Yep. By the way, if Bob Dylan made a record with frog eyes, I would be thrilled. New album from the band Wednesday is fantastic. And I will also shout out the band Sharp pins.
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B
Steve Gunn album is great. Steve Gunn has an instrumental.
- [43:52]
A
Oh, yeah.
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B
That's really beautiful. And it's literally meant for us. It's called Music for Writers.
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A
I love it. Ooh, that's great.
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B
Nice ambient stuff. I mean, as he does. It's beautiful.
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A
Great. Tom, I always ask Jason this, but how do you find it? How are you finding music?
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B
You just. It's funny because I am Writing a book about music now, and that's one of the things I'm trying to write about is like not giving up on finding, like how to not give up on music as you get older and not just like stay in your comfort zone.
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A
This is, I also talk about this all the time. How do you. Especially with the death of those curatorial places that we used to go to. Be they record stores, like Other Music or Aquarius Records in San Francisco. Any of those places that helped recommend those have all gone away.
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B
They have, but they haven't all gone away. You could go to Gimme Gimme and Gimme Gimme in LA and they'll tell you about anything. There's smart people working there. And I really just think you just have to pay attention a little bit. And sometimes it can be as simple as if you're on a streaming service and there's, you're listening to something you like, just look for the thing they recommend that you never have heard of and just got it. Go down that road. And if you keep going down a road past that, you get somewhere else. And like, if you go, oh, well, what would I listen? What would the people who like this also like? Then you listen to that. Then what would the people who like this. Now you're out in the woods and you're finding new things.
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A
And I think one of the things that I've had success with in the Band Camp ecosystem is, is Band camp will show if I bought a record, if I bought the, the Steve Gunn record that, that Tom just held up. Yeah, it might show me other people who've bought that record and what else they bought. So it's also, oh, somebody who listens to that Steve Gunn record, they might also have this Riley Walker record or this Bill McKay record that I also like instrumental guitar music. Okay, cool.
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B
You know, yeah, absolutely.
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A
I gotta get on this. I, I, I feel myself like flailing in this world because I just, I never, I gotta, I gotta do some more exploration and, and, and then that's where my, my downside is. I used to love and listen and find and, and now it's back to me.
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B
Well, there's also things like. The other thing I would recommend is look at who opens for people when they do the whole tour. Not like the band that just got thrown on for one night. It's like, look who bands and acts you like, see who they pick. Because that works even on the biggest possible scale you could find. It's just like, oh, well, Sabrina Carpenter opened for Taylor Swift. It's just like, that's how people found out. It goes as high up as that, but it kind of works. If the band respects somebody, there's something there that's worth checking out. If you love the band, the headliner so much. And then also just like, pay. There are still record labels you can pay attention to that still tracks to some degree, and just also find a venue. Like, if you're in this area, there's a place in Pasadena called Healing Force of the Universe, that It's a record store during the day and at night they have shows and they just have a certain type of show there. They have stuff that's a little more mellow and maybe kind of, you know, look, folky is a bad word for some people, but it's not a bad word. But they have really nice stuff happening there. And you just can look at the other bands that play there, go to the website, their website, and see what their calendar is. And even if you're not looking to go to shows, just check out the names, see who's headlining, listen to a couple songs by people. You can get there. It does take a little more work, but you can also take advantage of the fact that you can hear things like that. You don't have to go buy an album and find out you think somebody's travel.
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A
Yeah, yeah, you can be exposed immediately rather than, oh, I read about this record. Now it's going to take me a week to actually hear a cut from it. Exactly.
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B
Now, you got to remember. Remember what you were trying to check out. It's like the chaos that has happened. There's still patterns in the chaos that you can. You can take advantage of and utilize.
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A
You know, for me, I. What I do is, you know, I go to the record store from Freakier Friday, you know, where Chad Michael Murray worked, and I'm like, you know, I want to see. You know, I kind of. That's the record parlor. And I kind of check out there and kind of get those vibes going and, you know, and find some new bands and get some stuff like that, you know, that's where I'm at.
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I think. Paul, I think you've got it all figured out. I would rescind everything I said.
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A
Just go, you know, I saw. Yeah, it seemed like there was some cool stuff going on there, some neat stuff. If you want to hear more of Tom and us, of course you can listen to our Avengers episode Uma Thurman Ralph finds. We did that live in New York with you. That's right.
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B
Listen, people should listen for the moment when the crowd realizes that I was the surprise guest and you hear the room just deflate. That they're like, oh, I don't know who that is.
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A
You know him as the host of the best show. Please welcome Tom Sharpling. Welcome, welcome. Have a seat right there. Oh, my goodness. All right. How are you, Tom?
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B
I'm good. Listen to that completely measured applause of me being here. The heard Tom, and then the only thing they wanted to hear after that was cruise, mess, middle ditch. And then it's like, oh, no. If you listen to really feels like.
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A
You can hear the oxygen leave the room.
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B
I think you can hear the people leave the room. Actually, you hear chairs.
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A
That was the episode where by the end of the show, the recording, you had walked the whole room. Oh, my gosh. It's a classic. A classic.
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B
But outside of that, it's a classic episode.
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Tom, you're the best. Thank you so much. We will be listening to you and seeing you out on the road. Best show live in October. Brooklyn, Philly, L.A. chicago. So good. I cannot wait. Congratulations, Tom. Thank you.
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B
Thank you both. You're the best.
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A
And thanks for not retiring like that. Mayor Nick Coward only did 15.
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B
He only did two episodes a week for 15 years. You're like, what a. What a tourist. He didn't have it. Apparently. He only had the president in his garage.
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Thank you, Tom, for joining us. And by the way, a shout out to Rob from Long island doing double duty with that great introduction segment for Just Chat. Now, if you want to go see Tom on the road, just go to thebestshow.net and click on the link for tickets. You know, it works. You know, websites work. You're there. Thebestshow.net get your tickets to see Tom on the Road. And you might even see me and Jason in the crowd in Los Angeles. All right, now's the moment you've all been waiting for. It's time to announce our next movie. That's right. We're going to be going from a scare with a noose to a bear on the loose. That's the kind of wordplay that this show is known for. I love it. Next week, we'll be kicking off a month of spooky movies with 1983's Grizzly 2 the Revenge. I will note that some streaming services do list the year of release as 2020. However, it was filmed in 1983 but not released for 37 years. Yes, Grizzly 2 the Revenge was released in 2020 but not released for 37 years. And I don't know why, because check out this cast. George Clooney, Laura Dern and Charlie Sheen kind of. Okay. IMDb describes the movie like this. All hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly, reacting to the slaughter of other grizzlies by poachers, attacks a massive big band rock concert in the national park. Holy shit. I am excited. Rotten Tomatoes rates this movie an 8% rotten. And Adam Patterson from Film Pulse says Grizzly 2 is a dreadful experience, but it's an oddly fascinating one as well. Take a listen to the trailer. What happened now? Grizzly killed again. Three kids this time.
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