B (13:54)

Hey, Paul. Longtime listener, big fan of the show, and I want to thank you so much for covering Livewire. I'm calling you guys because I actually know the writer of this film. His name is Bart. He's a great guy. This was the first script he ever had produced. He was actually hired and fired and rehired on this film three or four times. And I wanted to fill you guys in on something you talked about. You talked a lot about the robot Madonna. The robot was not part of Bart's script. Bart told me that that was another writer's contribution. But you know who loved the robot was Bob Shea at New Line. He told me that Bob was constantly talking about having more robot scenes. And Bob wanted the robot to save the day at the end of the movie. And Bart would say to him, no, I think Pierce, our hero, needs to save the day. And then he'd get fired. And then he would get rehired. Rinse and repeat. But anyways, the scene with the fountain, Bob wanted the robot in that scene, but the robot just wasn't working. And Bob Shea, I'm told, threw a huge fit and screamed, I want to see the robot go underwater and go glug, glug, glug, glug. Anyways, thanks again for covering the film. Is it a great movie? No, but I always have a blast every time I watch it. Thanks so much for all you do. Take care.

A (15:16)

Glug, glug, glug. Oh, man, Bob Shea is awesome. I mean, if you don't know anything about Bob Shea, first of all, he is a guy that really is a high art, low art guy, right? He got behind great filmmakers. I mean, he was the, you know, the person who released the Nightmare on Elm street films. And Evil Dead. And then he was like, you know what? I think we could do this with comedy. And then was behind things like Dumb and Dumber and the Mask and Austin Powers, you know, like, he really was this very smart guy who also knew that people wanted robots. And I'm going to tell you, I felt like this movie could have used more robots. I'm happy to know that the robot wasn't as big of a character in your friend's script, but I tend to agree. I think the robot should have had. If you introduce a robot in the first act, the robot has to save the day in the third act. That is what Alfred Hitchcock said, and I'm standing by it. Another interesting thing about Bob Shea, which, again, this is called Paul Scheer Going down Wormholes. So basically, in 1998, Peter Jackson was like, I want to make Lord of the Rings. He had this, like, 36 minute pitch reel for it. And Bob Shea was like, you know what? This is great. I don't think you should make one movie. You should make three films. He greenlit production for all three installments, and that has become the biggest movie in New Lines history. So Bob Shea, I'm going to say, yeah, maybe that robot shouldn't have said glug, glug, glug. But his instincts were kind of right in a lot of ways. Everything from, like, Rush Hour to Harold and Kumar and the Conjuring. So anyway, I'm sure that there are other people involved in these things as well, but I like it. I like that story a lot. And this movie is awesome. It's awesome. So thank you, Clinton, for sharing that with us now. I mean, I want to make a shirt that just says glug, glug, glug. I mean, I feel like that might be a retroactive shirt. We may have to put that out there. Let us know. Anna from Auckland, New Zealand. What do you got?

C (17:43)

I just want us to take a minute to appreciate the heroic and bonkers road trip through Midwest and Northeast America that Pierce Brosnan's accent took us on it. It started somewhere around Boston and then it toured through Chicago, the Bronx, New Jersey, got lost in western Massachusetts, then took a hard turn through Brooklyn and Queens, and then somehow made it back to Boston. I guess they spent the dialect coach budget on Squibs and the intimacy coordinator budget on Ron Silva's hair.

A (18:17)

Yes, yes. Finally someone calls it out. I. I am no good with accents, but I definitely knew it was floating around. I couldn't quite grab it. It was like running like the Cops were on its tail, right? They were just trying to get diplomatic immunity or extradition to a different country. That accent is tricky. And I. I am much more down with the movies where it's like, Arnold Schwarzenegger plays, like, a border patrol agent. He is hardcore, you know, in his own voice. Not trying to be like, oh, yeah, I grew up here. No, you didn't. We don't care. We are on board. Don't try to hide it. Just do what you got. All right. And finally, let's go to Jermaine.

D (18:56)

Hey, Paul. Long, long time listener since the beginning. And. And I usually don't call in, but then I was watching Livewire, and the first thing I thought after I realized what the murdering agent was, where they drink something and it turns into a bomb and they explode, is that, how did they make it without a taste? Because it would at least need to taste like water or at least not be trackable when somebody drinks it and thinks they drink something wrong. So how do you even test something like that? You have to test it with something with taste buds, like, I guess, a monkey or something. But, like, they're not going to talk to you and say, yeah, this tastes sour. And then explode. And then you get another eight. Like, you have to test out the idea of even putting something like this as a drinkable substance that could be substituted with water. So, like, it's impossible. All right. Love the show.

A (19:54)

Okay, hold on a second, Jermaine, you almost broke my brain here. Because I was like, wait, what is he talking about? And then I realized what you mean is right. They wouldn't know that this was flavorless unless they were able to test it. But I will say the way that they were killing scientists leads me to believe that they definitely did try it on people. But I guess they would be, like, struggling for their life. And. And how would you even test it? Because I imagine if you're anywhere near it while you're testing it, you also would be dead. And Jermaine, probably the most astute thing that I've heard about this movie, like, yeah, it would taste like something. If it didn't, how do we know? And I like the idea that you're like, they could have tested it on, like, animals, but animals couldn't tell them what it tasted like. I'm sure you gave, you know, a monkey a Sprite. They would be like, maybe they make a face. I don't know. Have you guys watched those videos of dogs eating lemons again? Get on it, people. Dogs eating lemon videos are great. We tried to make our dog do it, and he was like, no, I'm not. I'm not here for your amusement. I'm not eating this lemon. All right, back to the discord. Ryan says says just a slight correction to the pod saying that Pierce did livewire a year after Mrs. Doubtfire in a year before playing James Bond, Brosnan actually starred in this right after Lawnmower man And right before Mrs. Doubtfire and. And three years before Goldeneye. You know what, Ryan? I realized I misread my notes, and I was like, I can't go back. And I'm glad that you got me back to my Truthful Center. Thank you, Ryan. These are great. Everybody is hitting it out of the park this week. Now, John Steele writes, on occasion, I put subtitles on while watching movies, and usually someone is speaking, it says, like, you know, in Russian. The subtitles will simply say speaking Russian. However, the flashback scene of Pierce's daughter drowning when the dog was barking. The subtitles read, woof, woof, woof. It even accounted for the correct number of barks. I thought I'd share this very weird detail. John, God bless you. God bless you for bringing up a very important thing. Woof, woof, woof. Glug, glug, glug. That's our shirt. Oh, my God. I guess maybe instead of dog barking, we. The woof, woof, woof maybe seems more extreme, like we are letting you know the dog is still barking and he's not listening. Or maybe it's a more damning portrait of him being a disinterested dad. I don't know. Now, Dr. Guts, back again. What do you got? Two in one episode. One moment not discussed was when Pierce successfully diffuses the first car bomb. He removes his shirt and is revealed that he has a strip of photograph booth photos of him, his wife, and his kid taped to his rib cage and claims it was his lucky charm. Is taping them to your body really the best way to carry those photos? I mean, surely any one of the many pockets on his clothes would have sufficed. First of all, I don't remember this at all. And maybe because it's such an early part of the film, you know, when I was growing up and I was in Catholic school, I wore, like, a special. I don't even know what you call it. It was almost like a trading card, but it was much smaller, and it was, like, on a black rope, and I wore that. And I guess the idea was, like, that you would have, like, protection. And then I started being like, why am I wearing this? And they stopped wearing it. I guess I ought to also say the sweat would make the. It would run. The photos would look really shitty very quickly. I mean, they should be in some sort of plastic protective wrap. And I think whenever the only photo you have is just a photo booth photo, why don't you just cut one at a time? Right? Cause then you could just kind of, you know, keep one over your nipple. And then when that one kind of gets all washed out, another one goes on. Why waste all? Now? I hate to say this because you all brought your A game, but I did save the best for last. Sean McBee writes, I think you guys overlooked one of the most important character arcs in the movie Water. For Danny Oneils daughter, it brought death on a small scale in the hands of the motivationally challenged terrorists. It brought death and destruction writ large. But once Danny finally understood the water and essentially underwent a baptism in the fountain while fighting the clown, the nature of water changed. It brought reconciliation in the tub. Then it brought destruction to Danny's professional and personal enemies in a single stroke. Then a year later, it comes full circle and becomes a harbinger of life. Because he hasn't told your wife went into labor. He's told his wife's water broke. Thus, what was lost has been returned to him. Sorta. Wow. Can we just sit in that for a second? Wow. Sean, masterful work. Masterful work here, buddy. Whoa. You've now blown my mind. And this has been a month. I mean, Clinton called in with the writer of the movie's explanation of the robot. We got Jermaine talking about taste. We got. Here come the judge. We have so much here. Lucky charm photos. Woof, woof, woof. Glug, glug, glug. So many great ones, but I have to tell you, yours is so far ahead of any. Any of those may be the best analysis that this movie has ever had. Wow. So, Sean McBee, for having the best submission we have. I'm sorry. An amazing. Sorry, guys. Surprise for you. Sorry. Scott, do we have a bottle of water here? Yeah, here. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's much better. Okay. Are we still recording? Yep. Just take it back from Sean McBee. We have a truly amazing prize. Sean McBee, we have a truly amazing prize for you. Believe it or not, we have acquired a bottle of the real explosive water just like the one in the movie. That's right. We're gonna gift this one of a kind, deadly prop. Our producer Scott has the water, and we'll figure Out a safe way to ship it to you. Wait, Paul, the. The only water bottle I had was the one I just gave you. What? What? Oh. Oh, God. Scott, I'm not feeling well. Oh, God. Scott, please, I need help. Play that deleted scene. Get Madonna in here. Oh, God. This is a crazy deleted scene about Steven Seagal. Oh, God, he's gonna blow. Great Steven Seagal story that I once heard. Is that when he was. Maybe we'll edit this out. Or maybe not. Who cares? You mean Russian citizen Steven Seagal? I meant blues artist Steven Seagal. He was doing adr, which you have to. Like when you have to match your voice to a movie. And they're like, hey, Stephen, we kind of lost that last word. Can you say it again? Steven said, what? And he opened up his kimono to reveal a gun. And guy's like, we don't have to do another take of it. But, like, he revealed a gun. Like he was gonna shoot the sound editor for asking him. That's what he was there to do. You're an engineer in an ADR booth in Hollywood, and someone pulls a gun out.

E (27:47)

That reminds me of another Steven Seagal story. He was sitting at his desk. I think it was at Paramount at the time. And he's got his feet up on the desk, and he's reading a script, and his gun is on the desk next to him. And the producer walks in, and Steven Seagal is weeping. And he says. The producer's like, what's going on? Are you okay? He's like, I just read the most beautiful script I've ever read. And he's like, oh, wow.

A (28:21)

Who wrote it?

E (28:21)

He goes, I did.

A (28:25)

It's the best. It's the best. Oh, my God.

C (28:31)

And now here's my. No, I don't think I've ever seen a Steven Seagal movie.

A (28:36)

I barely know who he is.

E (28:38)

They're amazing.

A (28:39)

The four of us need to reconnect for Steven Seagal.

E (28:42)

Oh, my God.

A (28:43)

Marked for death. We got to do it.

E (28:45)

And, like, when he gets older, he won't even get out of his chair for a fight scene. He'll just sit in his chair and kick my.

A (28:53)

My friend.

C (28:54)

Like Liza Minelli. What do you mean?

A (28:58)

My. My friend was. My friend was an AD on the. They had choreographed this big fight sequence, and they get to the set and they're like, oh, so, Stephen, this is the whole thing. They're gonna come over to the table. You're gonna get up, you're gonna throw him over the table, and this guy's gonna Come, you're gonna throw him over here. Then you're gonna break the table and you're gonna, you know, and you're gonna pull this guy from behind you. He's like, all right, yeah, yeah. What if I just, I just do this. Punch one person one way while not moving and punch the other. And he goes. And the guy's like, oh, okay, yeah, sure. He's one of the best traders of our time. Watch him do karate online. It's amazing. Like contemporary. Yes. Watch him do martial arts demonstrations from recent time. And you are watching him exactly what these guys are describing. Touch a person and the person like the guy throws himself across the room.

E (29:57)

It's like the Keystone Cops.

A (29:59)

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C (34:04)

Whew.

A (34:04)

That was a close one. So now is the part of the show where I tell you that every Tuesday we re release classic how did this get made episodes back into our feed. This week's classic episode was Lawnmower Man 2 Beyond cyberspace. And next week's classic re release will be our episode on the Mark Wahlberg music drama Rockstar. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. Now, without any further ado, it is time for a rare chat with my lovely wife, Miss June Diane Raphiel. John, Astonish. Play us in Jason and Paul. Just chat. June and Paul. Just chat. Tall John Shear. Just chat. How did this get made? Last looks. Just chat. Welcome, June, filling in for Jason this week. Always a pleasure when you stop by.

C (34:48)

I, I, I love it here. I really do. This is. Sometimes I wish this is what we could do instead of watching the movies. This is the most fun part.

A (35:00)

I know you just like the hang. And you know what? I gotta be honest.

C (35:03)

I like talking.

A (35:04)

I like talking as well. I like talking. I like talking to you. And we talk a lot of the times. I would say a majority of our talking is done off microphone, which, you know, look, if we could monetize just our normal conversations. What a dream.

C (35:20)

That's, that's actually what the deep dive is basically just talking and monetizing regular conversations and hangs.

A (35:30)

Well, I, I'm glad that you're honest about it. And you know, and look, you can feel very comfortable to come here and just hang with us because Jason and I, all we do is talk about stuff that we like and that we love and that we're into. And I know that you have been away. Everybody knows you've been away. You have not been at some of our live shows. People have missed you. You missed some fun fill ins.

C (35:53)

But, and I will say, I know I said, oh, I don't like to talk about the movies and stuff. I really am kidding. I love doing our live shows. I feel like I haven't done a live show in forever. I miss it so much.

A (36:04)

Our first live show, Livewire was our first live show in five months.

C (36:10)

That's crazy.

A (36:11)

I know, I know. It's been kind of nuts.

C (36:13)

We gotta get back on the road.

A (36:14)

We have not been together. But part of that is because you are working on Elle, which is a brand new show coming out this July on Amazon. I don't know if people even know what this is. You want to tell people what it is?

C (36:27)

Oh, yeah, sure. So, yeah, get psyched, get excited. So Elle is the Legally Blonde prequel series and it will launch on Prime Video worldwide. I don't know I think so.

A (36:41)

All right. I'm just hoping it's Worldwide.

C (36:44)

I'm assuming.

A (36:46)

I mean, let's.

C (36:46)

Assuming it's worldwide. I don't know. I don't know how that all happens. Breaks out.

A (36:49)

I think I'll talk to pitbull because he's Mr. Worldwide, and I'll make sure that it does get out.

C (36:53)

Thank you. So, yeah, it comes out on July 1st, and this is the prequel series to Legally Blonde. It's elle woods in 1995 in high school, and I play her mom, Eva

A (37:09)

woods, now notably, mom. Not really featured or just featured very briefly in the Legally Blonde movie. Are you basing your character on that moment that we. Cause I think the mom's in, like, one scene. Have you done the work study? Have you reached out to that actor? Is it like you. Have you gone deep?

C (37:30)

I mean, listen, the movie is so perfect and meant so much to me when I saw it and still means so much to me. It's just such a beautiful. You know, it's so crazy to think back on that time where it's like, oh, the concept of being into hair and fashion and wearing pink, you know, meant you, like, weren't taken seriously as a lawyer. It seems so absurd. But of course, that's still something that women combat every day. But anyway, yeah, so the movie meant so much to me. I think what's so cool about the series is it takes the original material and also, you know, gives us the same space, it's an hour long. To really explore these characters in brand new ways. So there's so many wonderful nods to the movie. And we are also, you know, able to really extrapolate.

A (38:21)

I will say this. I've seen a little bit of it. Not actual finished footage, but I've heard dialogue. I have seen and I've heard stories.

C (38:30)

You think you've seen it because you heard me run my lines.

A (38:32)

I've heard you run lines.

C (38:33)

You feel like you got an early. You saw early cuts.

A (38:36)

And I got to meet some of the cast, the lovely cast, and I'm putting it together. I'm putting it together. Yeah. I was on set. I was on set. So I know a couple things. No, I'm very, very excited for it. So July 1 is when it comes out worldwide, or at least in your neck of the woods. I'm gonna say, now you are shooting away in Canada. People know that you are away. What have you been filling your time with besides working and besides monetizing conversations with you and Jessica Sinclair on. On the deep dive?

C (39:08)

Well, you know, I know you guys like to talk about. I know you and Jason consider yourselves like the travel guys. Like, you like to talk about your. The bags.

A (39:17)

We like bags. Yeah.

C (39:18)

You like bags. Men in their bags. That's our next podcast. What is it? It's like, there's something there. If I were.

A (39:27)

I've bought two bags in the last month.

C (39:29)

I know, but there's something there about. I guess I'm just wondering. It's like, are you both trying to get. Just get ready to go beyond the go? What are you preparing for with all those.

A (39:43)

Well, I'll say. The way that you just talked about Elle woods and, you know, having, you know, a certain attitude would make you not be taken seriously. Right. I think that men have been forced into this world where they can't have a purse, and I think that bags are men purses. And we have stuff we need to carry, our stuff. And, you know, I don't want to have these bulky ass pants. I don't want to be. You know, I remember, like, I remember my dad's pants. You could see an outline of a wallet in, like, the back pocket. Yeah, it was a permanent outline. Like, we don't need that.

C (40:19)

Wow. Well, I'm so happy now that I know you need your bags for stuff and that it's because you were. You're denied purses. I mean, I. I am. You know, really. I've been traveling so much that something's happened where I. For a long time, I was on a side quest. You don't even know about this. There's so much I keep from you.

A (40:42)

I know.

C (40:43)

Yeah, I was on a side quest.

A (40:44)

Well, you're too tired to tell me. A lot of the times, you're just too tired to tell me. You often say to me, I can't wait to tell you this thing. And sometimes I realize you never tell it. You've never told me the thing. I just wait. Just wait. And it's like a show that gets canceled. I'm like, I never knew what happened there. And then I asked you, and I said, hey, what happened that day? I forgot.

C (41:08)

Well, what am I gonna say? I'm going through hormonal changes. I forget things. But here's the thing you have to understand, too. And I spoke to Nick Kroll about it this morning. We talked about you. And I said. He said, how does Paul have so much energy? And I said, I don't know. And a part of the reason why I think I have to go into shutdown mode is because you have so Much energy.

A (41:28)

You. You think that I'm energy vampiring you? Like, I'm.

C (41:31)

No, but there are times at a certain point in the day, it's like, no, I can't talk anymore, buddy. I can't talk.

A (41:38)

See, I think I would like that idea, but I am not comfortable in putting that on somebody else. Like, I would feel too uncomfortable being like, well, now I am done talking. Like, if you want to talk, I'll be like, I'm going to talk to you because you want to talk. I'd like to be there for you. There are moments, and oftentimes you'll text me and go, why are you sitting in your car a block away from the house? And those are those moments where I'm. Yeah, well, I know you track me and maybe let people know what that's all about.

C (42:10)

Well, no, I have your location.

A (42:14)

But you not just track me.

C (42:16)

I track many people.

A (42:18)

Okay,

C (42:20)

well, I actually think it's more important to know about the people who refuse to be tracked.

A (42:27)

And I know we have a close friend. I mean, you have a very close friend.

C (42:30)

I won't name her, but she won't give me her location. I find that suspect and one of my family members, my flesh and blood.

A (42:36)

Wow. You see, now, I try to track you, and I just get a general vicinity. I don't often know exactly. Like, whenever our tracking is off. But you're able to pinpoint me down to sometimes a block.

C (42:48)

I know exactly where you are, honey. You'd be shocked at how many times I open up my phone to look at where you are.

A (42:55)

Wow. Look at that.

C (42:56)

I feel I've always got eyes on you. Yeah, I do find you a block away. I mean, when I saw you a block away for one time was like, hours. And you were sitting in your car. I mean, this is a. This is just like. I was really like, what on earth is he doing in there?

A (43:13)

Well, I knew that I had some things that I needed to do that would take me out of being home, and then I would be home, but I wouldn't be present. So I decided, let me just do my.

C (43:26)

I actually appreciated that.

A (43:27)

Right.

C (43:28)

Yeah. No, I. I think the home is a sacred space, and you should come in here and be, you know, free of all. Try to leave the rest of the world outside. All of this is to say I have been just back to bags. I have been traveling a lot. You haven't been tracking where, but I've been traveling, and I have on one of my side quests has been to find the perfect Carry on bag.

A (43:53)

Well, but you never ask me my opinions. You never. And sometimes you'll.

C (44:01)

Because you're a man, you couldn't know what I need from a carry.

A (44:07)

I mean, your suitcase is not a female suitcase. I would say that you know this kind of gender.

C (44:13)

My Toomey. Yes. I brought myself a Tumi, folks. You talking my Toomey, by the way.

A (44:18)

You know, that was what was told to me by my first manager when I got into the biz. He's like, we play our cards right, they're gonna start bringing around a Tumi. And I was like, what? Well, a Tumi Atumi. I didn't even know what that was. And to me, to be like, my success would be having a nice bag was so far from. I mean, it's still. Right now I'm buying bags from places that you don't even. You've never heard of. Like, I'm not buying no Toomey. I'm on, like, a Portland guy's website. I'm on Backpack Blog. But. But I get, like, that. The idea that it. Toomey would be the end all. Be all for, like.

C (44:59)

I was like, I'm just talking. Yeah, that's really funny. Well, I. I had seen this Tumi, and I actually. There was a lot of functionality that I was interested in. It wasn't about getting the name Tumi, although. Did I monogram it? Yes. But I love that Tumi and that Tumi is expandable. And that, to me, has. Has been around for a while, and it's done me right now.

A (45:22)

Now. Do you get in trouble with that, Toomey?

C (45:24)

Oh, yeah. I've gotten in trouble a few times for expanding it, and I've had to, like, sit on it. I've had to have both you and I sit on it. The whole family's been sitting on it

A (45:33)

trying to get it. Yeah. Sometimes even, like, try to, like, get me to put it up instead of you. So then I get in trouble sometimes. Or sometimes, you know, there are moments,

C (45:40)

you know, well, you like to say, oh, it's not gonna go in. And I'm like, did you try? Did you try? Now, I. This. This is. I'm actually really glad we're talking about this because, you know, Jessica Sinclair's always said Sinclairs don't check. And I was always someone who checked. Now, I guess probably about two years ago, maybe during co. I'm not sure when the transition happened for me. Yeah, I no longer check.

A (46:09)

And you said it. And you made a rule for our family, and I Will say, I'm gonna be very honest right here and say that is one of the best family rules that anyone in our family has instituted. I love it and I curse you

C (46:26)

for it, because Rayfield Shears don't check. It's part of our identity.

A (46:33)

We went to Europe and we did not check.

C (46:36)

Over two weeks.

A (46:37)

Over two weeks. Now, I have different bags to help accommodate that. I've gotten the Ziploc bag, as I know Jason talks about his kind of things, but you have really started something. And to your credit, we have followed through as a family. I'm very impressed. I'm very.

C (46:53)

Thank you, honey. Yeah. I mean, listen, there were years when the kids were little with strollers and car seat. We didn't have a choice. So it's like, we could only start doing this when we could start doing this. And it does feel like. I used to think, when I was someone who did check, I used to think like, oh, people who don't check and travel light think they're so fucking great. There's so, like, the walk around with such a superiority complex, like they've done something morally better than me.

A (47:20)

I hate it. I hate it.

C (47:21)

And I hated that attitude. I hated that. Because I want to bring dinner. Clothes that are totally separate and won't

A (47:29)

transition from day Shoes are the killer for me.

C (47:32)

I know. I know. But now that I'm on the other side, I do feel superior. I do feel we're better.

A (47:39)

There's something nice about knowing that you have it with you now. I will say that in the moments where I don't bring a bag or I'm going away for a longer time, sometimes you have to check. Like, you're. Like when you went to.

C (47:49)

Okay, yes. Then I had to check.

A (47:51)

Right? I mean, but there were always. There will always be a moment like that.

C (47:54)

Sure, sure, sure. But for the most part, yeah. I was going away back and forth for five months. I brought a suitcase to Canada with me.

A (48:02)

Right.

C (48:02)

And I checked it. Fine. But for the most part, you're not gonna find it.

A (48:06)

I'm not trying to poke a hole in what you're saying. I'm just saying. But when you do check, I actually feel. What I was gonna say was a little naked. I was gonna be like, oh, where? Now I get nervous. Like, what happened? Did I leave something? I'm not used to traveling now.

C (48:20)

That's our son.

A (48:21)

Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I went on tour with our two children last spring break. You were away shooting season one of Elle. Right? Now you're shooting season Two. Congratulations.

C (48:34)

Thank you.

A (48:35)

And day one, first day of the trip. I'm on it. We're up, we're at the airport, we're eating breakfast. Everyone's got their jackets, everyone's got their 1K. We got iPads charged, everything is perfect, ready to go. We get online, we get into the plane, we get there and then my son looks at me and goes, I don't have my bag. And you know, there's just a moment where you're like, no matter how good

C (49:04)

you are, you said so plaintively.

A (49:06)

Yeah, don't have my bag. Like, what do you mean?

C (49:08)

Those are the facts. Like, you interpret them as you will, you react as you will. The facts are a bag. Not with me. A bag I don't have.

A (49:20)

Now, I also have never exited a plane after I've boarded a plane, right? So I wasn't on the jetway, I was in my seat now.

C (49:30)

Oh, God, babe.

A (49:32)

And here's the thing that was crazy to me is to prevent this, I had put their backpacks around the handle, the backpack. And by the way, we're talking about a 10 year old. We're not talking about like a 5 year old, 6 year old. I'm like, so you'd have to take the backpack off the bag to then leave the bag. It was whenever I'm nervous about stuff, I lay stuff on top of each other so I won't forget. Like when I'm leaving for the airport, I have all my things together so I don't put them in different spots. I had to get off. And I will tell you that you always say that if our child is lost, look for a woman, talk to a woman instead of a man.

C (50:09)

I say that to the children.

A (50:10)

Yeah, I wasn't gonna say that. I took that advice. But what I will say was that the women on that flight got it. They were like, been there, done that. Go out, get that bag, come back, no problem. I thought it was gonna be nats on being a woman and amen. And I will say that the women looked out for me there. I was able to run back right to the same exact table where we were exactly at. The bag was sitting there hilariously, just like, hey, I got it ran back on and I was sweating. I was sweating like a pig. And it was like that whole relaxed morning, we just went out the window, of course, immediately.

C (50:50)

Well, I also, if you remember when we were. I don't remember where we were coming from, but we were in some airport connecting and we were all together. And then like, I was with our younger son. And I went into a little, like, Hudson news to get some sundries. And lo and behold, I see our other son's suitcase.

A (51:13)

Yeah.

C (51:13)

Just literally. Not him, not you. Just the suitcase sitting by the beef jerky. And I was absolutely stunned. Now, I sat there and I said, sam, let's. Let's wait and see how long it takes him to come back now. We waited, we waited, we waited. Finally, Sam was like, I'm gonna go to the gate and find them.

A (51:32)

I said, that's our other son.

C (51:33)

I waited, I waited, I waited. He never came back.

A (51:37)

Never came back. And then you and I started, like, making eyes because I. Because I let him leave it there. Like, I. That was part of my.

C (51:42)

No, you didn't. You didn't let him leave it there.

A (51:45)

I didn't.

C (51:46)

I thought.

A (51:46)

I thought the first part, it was me tricking. Like, not me tricking him, but, like, me going, learn your lesson.

C (51:52)

I think maybe you real. No, no, I don't think so. But I don't really remember. But it was such a shock to see it there. But anyway.

A (52:01)

And then you and I basically hid it from him until he would notice,

C (52:05)

and he never did. And then when he did, blamed it

A (52:08)

on his little brother and wasn't upset at all. Was like, yeah, yeah, I guess. I mean, he was more upset.

C (52:15)

He was like, okay, and what do you want me to do about it now? Oh, God, it's so shocking. But here's what I'm gonna say. So for many, many years, you don't even know this about me. I'm a stranger to you. I've been on a side quest to find the perfect carry on bag. Now, I don't know if you've noticed, I've been through many. I have.

A (52:34)

And part of me feels like I'm always waiting for you to go, paul, what have you found? But never. Okay, go ahead.

C (52:40)

Because yours are too masculine.

A (52:42)

I got you. I got you.

C (52:43)

Okay, so I finally have found something. That boy, when it. When it slides onto the handlebars of

A (52:52)

your suitcase, what do you got?

C (52:55)

It's. I don't know the name of it.

A (53:00)

All right. Cause I just got a bit more.

C (53:01)

I don't know the name of it. I'll find it. And hopefully we can post it in the show notes.

A (53:04)

Okay, we will.

C (53:05)

I saw it on, like, TikTok or something. All the girlies, all the travel girlies were getting it, and I thought, is this really what. And it is. Slides onto the perfect. I like the texture of it. Soft, right? Soft. Everything there. Shoe compartment. Never use it, but it's there, you know. But mainly I like the size. I like how it feels when I'm rolling around the suitcase and always find everything in there.

A (53:32)

You. I'm very happy that you said this because I recently also found an. An over the handle suitcase because that, that has been the trick. And I've noticed that that is where I have been failing in my airport travel. The over the handle. When you're traveling with a carry on. When you're a carry on family, that makes a very big difference because.

C (53:48)

Oh, there's no other way.

A (53:50)

That's the whole thing, Paul.

C (53:51)

There's no other way.

A (53:52)

Well, now this is the first time

C (53:54)

I've ever embraced and I have to say I'm. I'm actually like, like, wow. We're going to air some stuff out. I have to say I've seen you with a suitcase and then a duffel.

A (54:09)

Yeah, of course.

C (54:10)

Thin duffel.

A (54:11)

Yeah.

C (54:11)

And I've been like, what is this fucking chaos? And I've, I've bit my tongue.

A (54:18)

Why?

C (54:19)

Because you look a fool.

A (54:22)

Really.

C (54:22)

There's no way to manage that. That a duffel.

A (54:28)

I, you know, and this is the, this is the problem, though. I need that duffel because I need to get more stuff.

C (54:35)

But sometimes, sometimes. And you know, this is true, the duffel's not even zipped all the way.

A (54:41)

I know that to be true.

C (54:42)

Yeah, of course you know that to be true.

A (54:44)

I'm carrying cords, I'm carrying toiletries. I, you know, I'm carrying another pair of shoes.

C (54:50)

We all are. We're all carrying things. But it looks crazy to me and, and to see you both wheel a little Rollie and also the other side of your body carry a half unzipped duffel.

A (55:08)

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not proud, I'm not proud of it, but.

C (55:11)

Okay, so now do you understand why I haven't exactly been like knocking down your door to find out your reps?

A (55:17)

Well, that's, that's that. First of all, that is a very specific to longer travel pitches. Like, I don't, I don't bring out that duffel. I don't bring out that duffel often. I really.

C (55:28)

Okay, duffel aside, I have found. I had found something that, that really was. And still to the. There's nothing. It's great. It's the best one I've ever had. And I'm in an interesting position right now.

A (55:41)

Right.

C (55:43)

Because I have been traveling so much once a week and that, that is also coming with me. To set and to work that bag. I've turned on it. I can't stomach it. I can't look at it. Looking at this bag, thinking about it is actually making me nauseous.

B (56:06)

Wow.

A (56:06)

So you really. That. Because you're using it too much.

C (56:09)

Using it too much. So right now, what I'm in the market for, because I did buy a bag. This is a cheapy. Okay, got it. This isn't gonna be my hero bag.

A (56:19)

Okay.

C (56:20)

This is a dopamine hit. This is like, I just. My eyes need to feast on something else. Okay. But what I do need for it, because it doesn't have the slide in option, is I need to get. I gotta do it today. One of those sort of adapters that you can put on your handle to make anything stay.

A (56:41)

Well, if you're talking about Eclipsta, then let's talk about it, because Eclipta.

C (56:45)

I'm talking about Eclipsta.

A (56:46)

Eclipsta. Eclipsta is.

C (56:48)

I didn't know I was talking about Eclipsta.

A (56:51)

I'm talking about the Flex Clip by Clipsta.

C (56:54)

The Flex Clip by Clipsta. Yeah, the Flex Clip.

A (56:58)

Flex Clip Clip by Clipsta.

C (57:01)

By Clipsta.

A (57:02)

I'm gonna show it to you because I just bought one. One of these days, I'll show you

C (57:06)

how it works for $29.95.

A (57:08)

Yeah. Now, this is holding a woman's hat.

C (57:10)

And I like that.

A (57:12)

You could do bags. Look at this woman over here. Look at. I mean, we're looking at a website together. Look at this woman on an away bag. It's like she's holding three bags with this Clipstick.

C (57:19)

Hold on. Can you share screen?

A (57:21)

Sure. Hold on one second. So I'm looking at this. Yeah.

C (57:25)

That's nice.

A (57:26)

Right? It's simple, it's easy. We're boom, boom, boom. We're popping on bags. We're popping on things.

C (57:32)

Now, the thing that I am deeply troubled by.

A (57:35)

Yeah.

C (57:35)

Is that if you scroll all. All the way down to the you may also like section.

A (57:42)

Okay.

C (57:42)

In which there's a product called Specs Clips, where people are clipping onto their shirts. Listeners. They're clipping a clip onto their shirt.

A (57:55)

Basically, it's like a magnet that one side would be on. Like, you'd have to put one side behind your shirt, one side on the front of your shirt.

C (58:02)

And that's the way. Yes. And they're nice. The texture looks really nice. Looks like silicone, but like, very nice texture.

A (58:08)

But you can just slip your glasses in there.

C (58:10)

And then it also.

A (58:12)

Who the hell are you fluent? Because I would. I would see you walking around with one of these.

C (58:15)

No fucking way. Babe.

A (58:17)

I could see you.

C (58:17)

And then it also comes in, like, a lot of comfort colors, but you put your clothes. Who needs to wear, by the way? I need this. I know I need this.

A (58:26)

I know that. That's what I was gonna say. Like, I'm like. I'm not saying that you're wearing this out to, like, a fancy.

C (58:30)

But I need it back.

A (58:32)

Yeah, you. I mean, we're really selling clips to. But. And we're not. Like, the Clipsta is really gonna do a lot of work for you because it is holding a lot of this stuff together. Look at the water bottle attached to the side of the bag like that.

C (58:44)

That's really nice.

A (58:47)

Anyway, this is.

C (58:47)

Phone attached.

A (58:49)

Yeah, man.

C (58:50)

I need everything here. I need everything. Well, okay, so I think what. I think what I'm struggling with is just. I just need something new for my eyes to feast upon.

A (59:04)

All right, well, we'll let people hit you up with their other ideas. And obviously, we just did a giant ad for Clipsta, a company that pays us zero money, and we're talking about monetizing our conversations. We should have been able to knock this out. Now, now, June, I will say this. You've been reading books. Do you want to just recommend books? TV shows? Just give me a quick list of the three things that you're enjoying and three things you're watching or anything at all.

C (59:26)

Don't be such a. I hate. My biggest fear of going on podcasts is this is when someone's like, give me your top five.

A (59:33)

Okay.

C (59:34)

List five things in five seconds. I'm like, jesus fucking Christ.

A (59:37)

I'm not trying to put you under the gun. I'm just saying if you wanted to, because I know that you have been. I wouldn't set you up for this if you haven't.

C (59:44)

Okay, let me think for a second.

A (59:46)

Well, first of all, I do want to talk about. I don't know if you can announce this yet, because I don't know if it's been in Deadline, but you are doing a spinoff from the pit of Baby Jane Doe. You're taking the Baby Jane Doe.

C (59:57)

What's the status of Baby Jane Doe? What's the status of Baby Jane Doe?

A (60:01)

And that's going to be kind of exploring.

C (60:02)

Baby Jane Doe. Taking a bottle.

A (60:05)

The pit is high up on your list.

C (60:07)

Oh, I love it. And I love it for so many reasons. I think that. But one of the reasons I love it is because I have Found it to be very healing, I think, for a lot of. Well, I don't know how other people feel. For me, having spent so much time in the icu, having spent so much time in, like, critical parts of the hospital, experience with both my mom and my dad, you know, there's things I look back on and. And first of all, you're so traumatized. I mean, there's a great line in the show about being with people during, you know, the worst. Literally the worst day of their lives. Right. Interacting with people, being with them and trying to help them. The Pit, to me, has. Because I have had such hospital trauma, and what has weighed on me is thinking, could things have been different? Was the care, you know, what it should have been? Did the outcomes? Did the care affect the outcome? You know, you can't help but to ask yourself some of those questions. Of course, watching the Pit has been very healing because it has really made me realize, like, our healthcare system, the system is so deeply flawed, the system might have changed outcomes. Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to know.

A (61:36)

Got it.

C (61:37)

But the people, most people, of course there's exceptions. Most people are working who are working in healthcare are working in a fucking flawed system and trying to do the best they can. And most people who get into this, most people who are nurses and doctors and. And, you know, emergency workers, medical workers, most of them are trying to do the best they can for positive outcomes. And that is really like the show. Watching it has been really healing because they are up against so much that's flawed. So the Pit is high on my list for those reasons.

A (62:24)

And you've also been reading a bunch of different books. Anyone that you would recommend out? Hmm.

C (62:33)

You know, it's late, but I really love Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. I mean, it's been out for a while, but I just read it recently.

A (62:41)

I recommended it when we read it together.

C (62:43)

Oh, you did? You already recommended it?

A (62:44)

I did. I love that book.

C (62:46)

What else have I been reading?

A (62:47)

Well, you read that Belle. Bree. Is that her name? I always forget.

C (62:51)

Belle Burdon, I think. Bell Burden, Strangers. Yes, I read that. That's getting a lot of publicity right now, and I liked it. And, you know, it's scary. I think that that book is scary because it makes you wonder, like, how much do you know about people and what are people capable of? The most fascinating part of that book, and for those who don't know anything about it, even though she's done so much press, there's a. This woman is pretty happily married until one day when she finds out her husband having an affair. Been having an affair, and then he abruptly leaves her and their three children.

A (63:29)

Well, I thought it was an. I really enjoyed the book and it was a fascinating journey into something that's so kind of personal and wrestling with like, being left. And I think what was. I was like, still like, what's that reason? And the book doesn't really tell you what the reason is. It kind of just lets you live in that unsuredness. But I did think that the chapter she just wrote, I guess it was an addendum that was in the New York Times about. It was about. She never asked about his bag preferences.

C (64:04)

Well, you always find a way to blame the woman. I guess it is her fault after all.

A (64:13)

June, I love doing this with you. It's always such a pleasure to get to talk to you, to see what's on your mind, what's up. I would never have guessed that bags were on your mind. And I love that. This theory about pit. What?

C (64:28)

Front of mind.

A (64:29)

Front of mind. And I also think that that ties into some of the things that you watch online that I think I have a hard time with on TikTok. I know you watch a lot of death doulas and things like that, and that also. It gives me a different perspective on why you're watching it.

C (64:43)

Oh, yeah. I mean, death doulas. I. I follow. I'll be a little more specific. A number of hospice nurses.

A (64:52)

Got it.

C (64:52)

And hospice. Well, yeah, hospice nurses, both of them are RNs, and they have some fascinating insight into that process because they've. They've borne witness to so many people dying. And there are a lot of common themes. And, you know, it's. It's an. Obviously, hospice is like a very natural way to. That they really let the body do what the body needs to do while keeping people comfortable. And so it's. It's really been incredibly comforting. I. I will actually recommend them to anyone. Hospice nurse Julie. To anyone who's kind of fraught with grief. I have found it very comforting. And even just knowing, you know, we all are going to be struggling or are struggling with our own mortality, it's, It's. It gives me a lot of comfort.

A (65:44)

I love it. Top five months go.

C (65:48)

Um, I'd say my top. My top month is June. And I know that sounds really. Because school's out and summer's beginning.

A (65:57)

Got it.

C (65:59)

Uh, and then I would say November comes. Actually, you know what? Switch. November is my top month because Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. And then December, I Can't believe I said June 1, then December because obviously Christmas, then October.

A (66:15)

Okay.

C (66:16)

And then September and then June.

A (66:20)

Wow. June really moved to the back of

C (66:22)

the line, but still in the top five. But yeah, I got. I got. I don't know what I. I don't know what happened, but yeah, if I'm being totally honest, I had a second to think. So I don't like top fives.

A (66:33)

Say the wrong thing and forever got that right. On Kalshi, you just won. Wow. There's a lot of money. So this is. A lot of people have been betting on that on Kalshi, so. Yeah, so that just came in big for somebody. Somebody came in really big there. Z made how it's made a listener into a multimillionaire. June Deep Dive is out every week. You can listen wherever you get your podcast. You can sign up for premium Deep Dive experiences. You can watch Elle Worldwide in July, and hopefully we will. You are obviously doing in house episodes of how this game maybe. Hopefully we'll get you out on the road or even bring the show to Vancouver again, which was so much fun.

C (67:15)

That would be fun. I'll Also Plug On May 22, mating season comes out, which is a series animated series on Netflix that I'm on along with our friend Nick Kroll. And. And it's all of the, you know, creators of Big Mouth, and it's really, really wonderful.

A (67:29)

What's the premise?

C (67:31)

The premise? Well, it's a. It's about a cast of forest critters.

A (67:36)

Okay.

C (67:37)

And we're all trying to find love. So it's about a bunch of animals who are. Are looking to get into a relationship.

A (67:45)

No, I like that.

C (67:46)

Yeah.

A (67:47)

And again, I've heard you do some lines from that. I sneak peek and it seems.

C (67:52)

God, it's like you've been like, every time I think you're just passing by, I know you're doing a first look.

A (67:58)

Oh, who do you think talks to Matt Baloney? I'm telling him everything. I'm giving him all the details. Always, June, the best. I will see you in two seconds as we hang up from the zoom.

C (68:12)

Okay, see you in a minute.

A (68:13)

Bye.

C (68:13)

Bye.

A (68:14)

Thank you, June, for filling in for Jason this week. And for anyone interested in the name of June's badge, the one that she loves so much is called the calpac Travel Luca Duffel Bag. And we'll pop a link to that in the show notes. CalPak Travel Luca Duffel Bag. All right, but enough bag talk. It is finally time to announce our next movie. Next Week we're going from Pierce Brosnan schlock to New Kids on the Block. That's right, we'll be watching a 1998 action comedy, the Big Hit, starring Mark Wahlberg, Lou Diamond Phillips and Christina Applegate. IMDb describes it as a socially anxious hitman. Melvin Smiley goes on a job, falls in love with his kidnapping victim, turning his world upside down. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 41% on the tomato meter. And John Paul Powell from Jam Movies says GQ model type sweating it up in a high caliber, weapons fired, indiscriminately toned babes in skin tight clothing and Marky Mark breakdances in the gunfight. What more could you ask for? And I gotta say say Paul. You are right. From a Paul to a Paul. This movie was a wild ride and something that truly captures The Spirit of 97 98, unlike any other film I've ever seen. Take a listen to the trailer. In this line of work, I'm a contract killer. A little overtime. This is the girl. No, it's your mammy. There has been an unauthorized kidnapping can kill you. That brought you broken arrow and face off the Big Hit. What's up with you guys?

C (69:43)

You supposed to be the Spice Boys or something?

A (69:45)

Rated R. The Big Hit is currently streaming on the Criterion channel. Yes, you heard me correctly, the Criterion Channel. You can also rent it all the usual places. Wherever you rent movies people, that is it for last looks. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. If you haven't listened in a while, get it back on, okay? It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media at hdtgm. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny and Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum. And of course we will forever be thankful to the one and only Avril Halle. We will see you next week for the Big Hit. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.

C (70:38)

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E (70:42)

Oh no.

A (70:43)

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