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How Did This Get Made?
Last Looks: My Secret Santa
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Ted Danson chats with Jason about working together on Netflix's A Man on the Inside and the Good Place in an excerpt from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted's podcast, Where Everybody Knows Your Name. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on My Secret Santa before we announce next week's new movie! Listen to Jason's full episode of Where Everybody Knows Your Name on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Watch Paul's short documentary Swiftie Dads.
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Paul Scheer
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This is the last, Last look with light revisions, a stellar skateboard asking what's its mission? Last looks, Last Looks. Come and get your last looks. Broad talking newbies. But I hear Paul has a new book. Hello all you hot cocoa lovers out there who are horny for Santa. I'm your host, Hugh Mann. I mean, Paul Scheer. And welcome to how did this Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on My Secret Santa, a movie that Discord user Dove thinks should have had the tagline it's not you, it's me. Oh, I love that. That's really Good. Why isn't that in the movie? That's like Easy Pickens. That's great. I mean, by the way, that should have been the tagline of the movie. Well, I guess it would be a confusing tagline because you didn't know. But here's the thing. It's great. Dove. You killed it. You killed it with that tagline. Uh, now also, I'm having a hard time right here because Dove is a character in a book that I just read Tomorrow. Tomorrow and Tomorrow, which is a great book. Check it out. It's. It's beautiful. It's a. It's a story about platonic friendship. It's also a story about just partnership and video games. And it was one of my favorite reads in a long time, and I cried multiple times. I haven't cried reading a book in a very long time. It's great. Check it out. And again, you don't need, like, a PSA from me to check out a book, because I believe this book was a hugely successful book of last year. Like, when I opened up the paperback. There's just pages of great accolades that this book has achieved. So anyway, I love that book. You should check it out. Also, I don't know if you've heard of it, but Catcher in the Rye, pretty cool book. Yeah. You like it? You know, I read it. I'm, like, kind of on the inside. Yeah. I don't need to give you any more book recommendations, but I'm reading Martyr now, which is also a plus. I'm reading good books. You know, I hear. Here's my theory. You always say, I want to read more books in the new year. Or maybe you don't. I do. And if I can get, like, the amount of books that I want to read done early, then I won't let myself down. At the end of the year when I found that I didn't read as many books as I wanted. But I gave myself a goal this year. Five books. I normally do more than that, but five books, I can. I can achieve that. Anyway, enough about me and my reading. Oh, God, she loves to talk about his reading. Anyway, a big shout out to Latex Drool for that opening theme song. Unfortunately, the Screaming Kittens were too busy to make a song for us. Yeah, apparently the lead singer's in love. And you know what? Honestly, I just don't think that she ever really cared about the band anyway. I mean, she had that kid and just quite quit the band. I mean, they would never achieve mainstream success with that kind of lackadaisical. Attitude. So anyway, latex drool. You are way better than screaming kittens ever were. We appreciate you stepping in. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or you have a song for this show, it's so easy to get us the information we need. Alt movie taglines, corrections and omissions. That all happens on the Discord. Discord GG hdtgm. And if you're submitting a song, just go to our website, hdtgm.com and there's a little button. It says submit a song. You click on that, you upload the song. Keep it short, keep it nice. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And by the way, manageable. Coming up on today's show, we got some really fun stuff to do. Yes, we're gonna get to your corrections and omissions on My Secret Santa. I actually saw that the lead actress of My Secret Santa was commenting on on one of our posts, which always gives me a little bit of a nervous energy. But she seems that she's really into it and she wanted to explain some of the choices made in Secret Santa. But I would recommend this. She seems like a super cool person. And if you go to her page, she's got some of the makeup and costume tests for the film, and there's a image of her in her Santa costume dancing around, which just is disturbing and great, and I love it. So check her out. I'm not gonna tell you her name because I don't remember it off the top of my head, but you can figure it out. You could do the math. Also, guess who's coming on the show today? Ted Danson. Yeah, you know Ted Danson from Cheers, from the Good Place, from the man on the inside. Well, anyway, Jason went on Ted's podcast and we took a little portion of that and we're gonna put it on this podcast. So if you've never listened to Ted's show, you can get a little taste of it. Maybe you wanna follow it up later. But more importantly, if you love Jason, you're going to hear the two of them talk about the good place, the man on the inside, and so much more. Plus, we'll also reveal the movie for next week's episode. Now, I got a big announcement, a personal announcement. Back in 2023, I was obsessed with these dads who were hanging out in the parking lot at Taylor Swift concerts. They were in their cargo shorts, they were checking their phone. They were just kind of pacing, and they were all waiting for their daughters to get out of the show. So I had this idea, I want to go talk to these dads. I thought it was going to be like this funny thing, like these dads just miserable, you know, at this concert. Not really loving, you know, Taylor Swift or anything about it, but just having to be there. And I went down to Sofi and within the first 15 minutes, I realized, oh, I have this all wrong. And I captured something that I think is really interesting. I went there for about two or three nights, talked to a bunch of different people. We were gonna make this into a feature film. Not this short, but this was a kind of this magical thing. Magical. It was this thing that just. I happened on because I wanted to do a little funny bit. But then I found something a little bit deeper. We were actually going to blow it up into a bigger movie that had a much bigger scope. And that all fell apart. But I realized I never released the original mini doc, the mini dock that actually got us financing for this feature. So I wanted to put it up and I did. And your response to it has been amazing. Thank you so much for watching it. Thank you for commenting on it. If you've not watched it, you can watch it on my website, Paulshear.com or on my YouTub or on the dark web YouTube. It's very easy. Just type in Paul Scheer talks to Taylor Swift dads. And if you liked it, share. Was really fun. Just fun to just go out with a camera and shoot stuff and just find something. So, yeah. So thank you. Hope you check it out. You don't have to be a Swifty fan. That's the other thing. You don't have to be a Swifty fan. People are like, I don't like Taylor Swift, first of all. Let's take that out of the equation. This is about parents and children and this is about concert going. It covers a lot of different stuff. So if you have been a child, if you are a parent, if you've ever been to a concert, I think it will resonate with you. So. And also I will say that the thing that Taylor Swift did with this concert, it just blew my mind. I never experienced anything else like this at a concert. So anyway, check out that little mini doc. It's only like 15 minutes you watch on your phone. It's fine. I'm not mad at it. I'm not over here like Christopher Nolan or something. So, yeah, watch it any which way you want. And finally, you could check out dinosaur improv back at Largo on January 24th. Okay, January 24th, we're back at Largo and Jason and I will be together on the Scam goddess podcast on January 13th. Woo. A lot of plugs there. A lot of plugs, but all good. Interesting plugs. We're giving you a lot of free content is what we're saying. Anyway, that's all the plugs. Let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about My Secret Santa. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. It's time for corrections and omissions. We got a couple things wrong, but we're gonna fix that right now. That's why we're singing this song. We're gonna take a couple phone calls. Maybe you know something we don't. Perhaps you can change our opinion, but it's likely that you won't. Corrections and omission.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Our bad.
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Paul Scheer
Thank you to the Brash Menagerie for that pop punk theme, by the way. Brash Menagerie. Love that. Let's go to the Discord Nixt writes A lot of logic issues in this movie could have been solved if instead of starting the movie showing Taylor getting fired from a place that has no relevance to the rest of the movie, she was getting fired from working in the kitchen at the resort. You don't need to reshoot the scene. You just don't establish an irrelevant place. It makes it so much cleaner if the employee discount plot was part of the reason why she was working in the kitchen, gives herself a reason to disguise herself there to continue the discount. Really, the only changes it makes is that Tia Mowry threatening her at the end would make sense. I mean, it would be great if Tia was the one who fired her. Oh my gosh. Nix. You nailed it. Lizard writes. Why was Tia Mowry so insistent on unmasking Santa in front of all the children? I mean, I know she wanted to make Matthew look bad so she could get his job, but I imagine she surely would get fired from the bad publicity from her going crazy and yelling that Santa is a fake. She seems so determined to ruin the hotel after she doesn't get the promotion. And by the way, who's she fighting against? The owner's son. It wasn't even a fair. Of course he's gonna get it. I'm sorry, but nepotism is here to stay. Johnny Unusual writes the name Hu man as a wacky fake name was used in a classic episode of Futurama where an Alien uses a flimsy disguise to outwit the buffoonish Zapp Brannigan. Now, I don't mean to imply this was stolen, but rather my concern is that as a wacky name, Hu man doesn't really work in the context of the movie. The Futurama. The gag is a alien is taking a ridiculously literal pseudonym. But Taylor isn't pretending to be a human. She's pretending to be a man. Human would work for, you know, maybe a Christmas elf who is trying to be a human or a reindeer pretending to be a person. But for a woman, wouldn't something like Man Lee or Masculane or Hairy Chest make more sense? By the way, hire Johnny Unusual people. Man Lee, hairy chest. I mean, mask. Q. Lane is pushing it, but the other two. Perfect. Let's go to Johnny from Pittsburgh. Hey, guys.
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Discord Callers/Listeners
I just listened to the newest episode on My Secret Santa, and apparently you were right about the a gold IMDb review. It looks like his dad is J. Eggle James Eggold. So his dad wrote that really sweet review about how heartwarming film it is.
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Paul Scheer
Anyway, love you guys. Bye. Thank you, Johnny. And yeah, we figured it out. That's right. It's his dad. And you know what? God bless his dad for doing that. That is some perfect dad energy. Again, we're kind of tying together the Swifty Dads thing and this. I love it. All dads get out there and support your kids by getting on Amazon and getting the word out. Okay, next up is Meredith.
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Discord Callers/Listeners
Hi, my name is Meredith and I just listened to the My Secret Santa episode and you mentioned Common Sense Media, the website for parents to review media that their children might be watching. And you called it like a conservative website. I work part time for them as a media reviewer, and they're absolutely not a conservative website. They're actually super liberal. What I do for them is actually audit the media reviews that exist for DEI content. So I add DEI content. I add a new section called Diverse Representations where I get to talk about if there's a very positive queer relationship, I get to talk about that in a very positive way. If there's great black representation or disability representation, I get to talk about that. If you. If there's something problematic in the media, like a woman's being called a slut, I get to add that as something negative. And I've been doing this for Common Sense Media for, I'd say about four years. They have a huge program to not only audit every single media review they have, but to include all of these Standards and guidelines in new media. So they are actually really liberal and progressive. It is for parents to review media that their kids might watch, but in an informed, educated way and not in a conservative policing way. You might go look at some of the media reviews like I did Avatar, I did jaws, I did 50 first dates. And you can kind of see that diverse representations and how we're able to call out things that are negative in terms of DEI and then also support progressive DEI representation. So it's actually a really fantastic, very positive, very liberal company. Thanks for listening. Have a good day.
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Paul Scheer
All right. Okay. Meredith, I am sorry about that. I thought that they were conservative and I'm happy to hear that they highlight great DEI and call it negative dei. That's great. And Mark Kaiserman comes to slam me as well, says that Common Sense Media, when you get a 10 plus on common sense Media, that isn't a quality rating. That just means it's suitable for ages 10 and older. Oh. Oh, man, I really misread the whole thing. And Mark also says, I love every episode. I'm excited to see Jason on Broadway next month. Well, Mark, by the way, there's another plug for you. Jason will be on Broadway in all out, I believe it's called. It's great. Check out Jason on Broadway. Great cast running through there. Kind of like just a who's who of great funny people. All right, so sorry about Common Sense Media. My mistake. We are now working in a different place. So thank you, Meredith, for correcting me. Back to the discord. Why is Matthew in the locker room when human is taken there by Santa self? I mean, Hugh just got the job in the lobby with Matthew only moments earlier. So why was Matthew naked and putting his work clothes back on after he just met Hugh in the lobby? I mean, did he run into the locker room and take off his clothes just to drop towel in front of Santa? I mean, that's kind of sexual harassment. Steve, you're 100% right. I mean, Matthew is fucking freaky. He is a real freaky motherfucker. I. I didn't realize it was just right at. I thought there was like some time had passed, but I guess you're right. I guess it was just immediate. And you know what? When you got to take off your clothes and show off your schlong, you gotta do it. And that's. That is the God given right of any Nepo baby. Do not question it. And before we close up, corrections and omissions, let's go back to the phone line to hear from A couple of folks calling in about the Howdy Awards. Oh, yes, the Howdy Awards is back. We want to do a new thing now where we're going to start doing the Howdy Awards again, but we want to keep track of it. So when you hear something that could be a Howdy moment, let us know. Maybe we even start a little forum on the discord Howdy moment. Just submit a nomination for Howdy Moment. You don't need to explain it more. Just say in this episode, this moment. And then that way at the end of the year, if you have a time code, who'd be great. But by the end of the year, it'd be way easier for us to do not. We wouldn't just put it off for 9 years anyway. Anonymous Take it away.
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Discord Callers/Listeners
I noticed during the latest Howdies that.
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Paul Scheer
In terms of international guests, you mentioned.
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Discord Callers/Listeners
Many people but did not refer to Seth Rogen as an international guest. My question is, are you, or I.
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Paul Scheer
Should say is, how did this get made?
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Discord Callers/Listeners
Standing with President Trump in trying to make Canada the 51st state? Is that your, your way of signaling that? Just thought I had. Appreciate you.
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Paul Scheer
Wow. Wow. Okay, first of all, look, I, I, you know, I'm wrong. I'm taking a lot of hits today. I know Seth is Canadian. I respect Seth's Canadian heritage. I believe that Canada should stay where it is, should not be part of our country. Now, Greenland, I got a whole different opinion on Greenland. Let's fucking, let's take it. Let's take, let's take it all. Let's take it all. No, but Canada gets to stay. I love Canada, Love our Canadians, and I apologize. And you know what? It's my, my ineptitude of geography, and I take full credit for this. So I apologize to Seth Rogen. But I believe that Seth Rogen was nominated, though, too, for that category. He was. I know he was. Anyway, Liz from Detroit, what do you got?
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Discord Callers/Listeners
Hi, I'm a doctor, so I'm answering your call for an answer of where does the butt start? My impression was what you were asking was sort of like, where does the butt start from the front? Like, where does crotch end and butt begin? Which is a very good question. And the simple answer to that is that we have this lovely little strip of tissue in our pelvic regions called the perineum. So you have your genitalia. Genitalia, stop. Then you have perineum, or more commonly known, the taint. And then you will have your anus. So I would say technically where the but starts is where the anus starts. Now, as to the other end, I think this is where people were getting confused as they were asking where it started, like from the, from the back end. And I guess the answers that you got were, I guess, technically correct, if we're thinking of gluteal region and. But as kind of synonymous. Your gluteal muscles do originate from the ilium, specifically the iliac crest, which is the top part of your pelvic bone. And so I won't go into any more detail than that because anatomists are annoying and anatomy is annoying, but yeah. So I would say overall, I don't know, I kind of have a holistic view of like the butt region. I would say includes butt cheeks, butt crack or gluteal cleft and butthole or anus. So that is where the butt starts. All right, thank you. Have a wonderful day, folks.
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Paul Scheer
All right, Liz, throwing. Well, where were you? Where were you for the howdies we should have started with you. That's a better and less perturbed explanation. I appreciate that. Liz, I salute you from the top of the head, which is where, where the salute starts, I don't know. Thank you, Liz. Thank you to our anonymous Canadian. These are important corrections to get out there. So many great corrections and omissions this week. A lot of them coming after me, which, you know, look, I, you know, I, I get. But I, I think to me, you know, I want to go and celebrate the, the corrections and omissions that really stand out, the ones that do a little bit more of the work. And I'm going to say that this week, Nixed and Johnny Unusual get to split the awards because they effectively rewrote the movie in about eight lines or less. And you know what? I wish I could give you your own whatever Netflix movie, but I can't. I can only give you this song from the Amazing Bears in Love. Hit it.
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Discord Callers/Listeners
You thought you hit the jackpot.
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Paul Scheer
Cause you rolled the list. But really you were nothing. Absolutely nothing. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts or the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619-P-A-U L a S K. That's 619 Paul Ask. Coming up, after a quick break, Jason will chat with Ted Danson and I will announce our next movie. Stick around. Today's podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Whether you're just starting out or scaling up your business, Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed to help your business stand out and succeed online. Now, I love Squarespace because it gives me everything I need. You can offer services and get paid all in one place. From consultations to events and experiences. Showcase your offerings with a customizable website designed to attract clients and grow your business. Get paid on time with professional on brand invoices and online payments. You can streamline your workflow. Keep it all in one spot. That's right. Built in appointment scheduling? Check. Email marketing tools? Check. I have been using Squarespace forever. You can see each one of my websites, whether it's the dark web, Paul Shear unspooled or how did this get made? Is completely a unique experience and I love building there because it makes me feel free and creative. Creative to offer the things that I want to offer. Now. Head to squarespace.com bonkers for a free trial and when you're ready to launch, use the offer code Bonkers. That's B O N K E R s to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain on ebay, every find has a story. Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee, the one you wore everywhere until you lost it or your brother Neil burned it. Oh, now you're on ebay. And there it is. The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you. Especially on ebay. From rare collectibles and vintage cars to designer fashion, it's all there. You can find it if it's out there. And it can be back in your loving arms shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. Ebay Things people love. Everyone deserves to be connected. That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T mobile is in US cellular stores. Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the cost of optional benefits. Plan features and taxes and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third line free via monthly bill credits. Credit stop if you cancel any lines. Qualifying credit required. All right everybody, welcome back. I know that matinee episodes have been a highlight in many people's feed play old episodes. Last week we featured the movie Ultraviolet with Nick Weiger and Mike Mitchell. And next week's matinee will be Greased two with Anna Faris. Because you asked for it. That's right. We can maybe even insert another part of the discord for that. Ask for what you want back in the matinee folder there. I like that we got grease 2 back out there because a fan wanted it. And now, without any further ado, instead of just chat, this week, we're going to play you a little tease from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted Danson's podcast, where everybody knows your name if you haven't listened to it before. Where everybody knows your name is the podcast where Ted and his sometimes co host, Woody Harrelson go deep with the people who inspire them, like John Mulaney, Carol Burnett, Quinta Brunson, Dick Van Dyke, and so many more. And today, they're inspired by Jason Mantzoukas. That's right. In the clip you're about to hear, you'll hear Ted and Jason talk all about working together on season two of Netflix's A Man on the Inside. And also on the Good Place, Ted, take it away.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Working with you and the last thing we just did together, which just came out, by the way, A Man on.
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Ted Danson
The Inside, Season two.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Season two. And you are very funny and a little wacky and all of that. But I remember trying to start to leave because we had a little side scene, and then the.
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Ted Danson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jason Mantzoukas
The other scene was going on in the other room that you needed to go join. That my character needed to go join. And so I was trying to get away, but you kept adding little very funny things. And then I start to walk away. Oh, you're leaving, you know. Yeah. Oh, you know, you would call out.
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Ted Danson
What you're doing, you know, oh, no, that's like a classic for me. That's a classic move to just say out loud what's currently happening in the scene to me, the actor, like, oh, are we done? Oh, okay, okay. Talk to you later. You know, like, yeah, just like, yeah, all that kind of stuff. Just again, seeding. It's what you were talking about earlier of like, oh, some people are chasing a big button. They think like, oh, and then at the end, I'm gonna clobber it with this big line or this big joke or something or other. And I'd much rather sprinkle a bit of weirdness at the end. Like. Like something that's just like, wait, what was that? What was that weird little. Little aside?
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Jason Mantzoukas
But your weird thing didn't come out of nowhere, which is, I would argue, what Sandy Meisser would hate. And it didn't come from something before it came off of me.
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Ted Danson
It came off of exactly what. Which was. You were trying to extricate yourself from talking to me. Your character doesn't want to talk to me anymore. And so for me, to just call that out was very funny.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I have my version. Or actors who aren't good at improvisation have their version, which is. I really came up with something, a way to do this last night that I want to show you now while the cameras are rolling.
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Ted Danson
Oh, no. And I think that's. I mean, 99% of people on set are prepared, you know, are. Have made choices already, are. Have worked on this. You know, I'm only now in life getting better at working on things like really script analysis and really digging in on stuff that. That's. I did it in reverse. You know what I mean? Like, I am so. I'm so much more comfortable on a set that I can improvise on than a set that is. Requires me to be kind of word perfect, you know, That's a much harder endeavor for me and much more daunting. Yeah.
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Jason Mantzoukas
For me, too. My brain.
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Ted Danson
Yeah. But I will say, like, watching you, it seems effortless, you know, it is.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I have a crapload of psoriasis under my wardrobe, I'm sure, as a result of looking effortless.
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Ted Danson
Yeah. But it really is, like. It's.
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Paul Scheer
It is.
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Ted Danson
You know, I've been watching you since I was a kid, you know, whether on TV or on sets as an adult. And it is. It's a cool process. It's cool to watch you slip into these guys, you know, and. And that, like, especially the good place, that mischievous evil, that, like, twinkle. That's. I mean, that's.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I had no idea how to play the first season because I didn't know.
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Ted Danson
You didn't want to tip it?
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Jason Mantzoukas
No. You couldn't tip it.
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Paul Scheer
Yeah.
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Jason Mantzoukas
You had to. If people were to look back, which they do, because they watch it over and over again, that show. I love that. But you have to go. This is real in the moment for the audience watching, because they don't know the twist. And if you look back, knowing the twist, it has to be real as well. And to the point where I couldn't go, because not everyone knew this on the set.
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Ted Danson
You couldn't ask questions because nobody. Yeah.
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Paul Scheer
And the trickster.
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Ted Danson
And also you needed to play a character who, in success, you could continue to play in season two without having to make it a new guy who now is evil.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
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Ted Danson
You know, it's. No, it's got to be.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I heard so many directors who. Who didn't know this. They only told the directors.
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Paul Scheer
Didn't.
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Jason Mantzoukas
No.
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Ted Danson
Oh, I didn't know that.
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Paul Scheer
Yeah.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, one or two who were in the beginning of Drew and whoever else Got it. Yes. So I would go, I'd go, hey, I have a Talking to the wrong person. Sorry.
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Paul Scheer
Excuse me.
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Ted Danson
Where's Morgan?
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Jason Mantzoukas
Where's Morgan?
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Ted Danson
Oh, yeah. What a singular challenge, though. Like, I feel like actors talk about having a secret all the time. Like, I don't know if that's still a relevant thing, but, you know, like that idea of that, that cliche of an actor has a secret, but, like, you really did have a, your character had a secret. And that is, that is a. I, I, that the. I didn't see. I think of myself as a very savvy TV watcher, movie watcher. That twist shocked me. Like I was, it got me. I was so. Cause I was so in on the show. And then that I didn't, that I didn't see it coming was so incredibly delightful. I'm so rarely surprised that it really, it really got me.
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Jason Mantzoukas
I can thank my friend John Krasinski for not being a blabbermouth, because even before we started shooting, he was going off. I had just gotten a good place and we were about to shoot and he'd just gotten some big movie and was gonna go do this huge.
- [31:02]
Ted Danson
Probably the quiet place. So you guys were both in place. You guys were both in places good and quiet?
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Jason Mantzoukas
No, but it's kind of that story because I was slightly.
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Ted Danson
You guys mostly work in place based things?
- [31:17]
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, only place based. And this is why he said what he said to me when I described, said, hey, I want him to know that I was gonna do something cool too, because he was gonna go be a big fucking movie star. So I went, hey, I'm gonna be working with your friend Mike Shure. You work office And. Oh, yeah, and yeah, it's, it's. I played this architect. It takes place in the afterlife. And I'm an architect who designs this whole, you know, village community for the afterlife. And I could see his eyes go, oh, okay, yeah, it's the office.
- [31:48]
Ted Danson
But.
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Jason Mantzoukas
But in heaven. And I saw that and I went, no, no, you don't understand. Because at the end of the first season, I become the. You discover that the devil. And he went, oh, that's good. And I went, yeah, it's good. And feeling going, oh, fuck.
- [32:04]
Paul Scheer
Oh, no.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, no.
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Ted Danson
Why did I have to. Why did I have to beat time?
- [32:10]
Jason Mantzoukas
But wait, moving back.
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Ted Danson
Yeah, please.
- [32:12]
Jason Mantzoukas
Another thing, another thing that makes you such a good film actor, you ucb, folks, is because it's the camera. I love this camera. I think I always want to act for many reasons, but one is to get it.
- [32:28]
Ted Danson
Right.
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Jason Mantzoukas
It's 50, 50 at best. And I'm giving myself credit to say 50, 50, that I will truly be in the moment.
- [32:37]
Ted Danson
Right.
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Jason Mantzoukas
You can get close to the moment and then a part of your brain goes, wow, look at me, I'm in the moment. And then you're out. And the camera sees that. The camera knows whether you are truly in a position to surprise yourself. Because you don't know it's coming, you know, because you're so lost in the moment or no, you're just now giving me a facsimile of something of being in the moment.
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Ted Danson
Yes. And a lot of times I feel like that can look like what you prepared.
- [33:09]
Jason Mantzoukas
But if you, Mr. UCB er are part of a group trying to find out where this group is going next, you can't be phoning it in. Everything's going to where it's going. Yeah. It's all discovery, it's all curiosity. Yes. Which is my new favorite fucking word right now. At my age, maybe when I approached 70s, gratitude became a very valuable word. And real.
- [33:36]
Ted Danson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jason Mantzoukas
You know, be grateful, Ted, you know, How'd you get everything you got? I don't know. Just say thank you. You know, how much more? I don't know. Thank you. You know, just stay there. My new word though is curiosity.
- [33:50]
Ted Danson
Big tactics.
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Jason Mantzoukas
Stay fucking curious.
- [33:53]
Ted Danson
And that is. And I will say one of the things that all my, like all my characters have is deep curiosity. Like a lot of times they all want to know everybody else in the show more, but they're almost always people that everybody else in the show is like, can this guy get out of here? Can we get rid of this guy?
- [34:15]
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
- [34:16]
Ted Danson
But like, like Apollo on a man on the inside. Like that Thanksgiving episode. All Apollo wanted to do as far as I was concerned was make friends. He's just there to make friends, you know, Calbert make. I'm making friends with Calbert. This every, you know, everybody that, that my guy meets. Curious. I want to know more.
- [34:36]
Jason Mantzoukas
Your curiosity isn't to then have a one up or have anything that's on a negative or, or sad or anything. You're curious. The payoff is. Well, I'll be damned.
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Paul Scheer
Yes.
- [34:49]
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh my God.
- [34:49]
Ted Danson
More specificity. More like. And you know what? And this thing we just figured out, I'm into it too.
- [34:55]
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
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Ted Danson
You know, and then you're just finding weird little pockets of stuff that a lot of times can just be ephemera that they're never gonna use. But then every once in a while it makes it into the cut, and I'm like, oh, whoa.
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Paul Scheer
They use that.
- [35:09]
Ted Danson
Cool.
- [35:10]
Jason Mantzoukas
I feel like I've graciously gone along with that. I'm 77, you know, like, wow, you're 77. Look at.
- [35:16]
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
- [35:17]
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, I just. And then I watch myself on TV and it's like, fuck, yeah, I'm 77.
- [35:23]
Ted Danson
Oh, yeah.
- [35:24]
Jason Mantzoukas
It's so disturbing.
- [35:26]
Ted Danson
I felt when I turned on this season of the show. I was like, oh, whoa. I'm so much grayer than I was the last time I think I appeared on television. You know, Even though I see myself in the mirror every day, my mind is lying to me. But when it's right there on tv, I'm like, oh, that guy's older. That guy's older than I thought he was.
- [35:47]
Jason Mantzoukas
So my process is that I watch it again and I wipe my tears away going, well, I guess it's not that bad. And then I watch it a third time. I go, oh, fuck. There are other actors in this scene. Oh, you know. Oh, you're good. Oh, this is good.
- [36:01]
Ted Danson
Like that thing. Cause do you do this like, let's say you're watching a scene from a man on the inside, but one of these big group scenes. Do you watch yourself when someone else is talking?
- [36:14]
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm trying to figure out what you mean by someone else is talking to someone else.
- [36:19]
Ted Danson
You mean the other actor, but you know what I mean. Sometimes I'm like, why am I even looking at me right now? I'm not the one talking. Nobody's looking at me right now. Because sometimes I'll be like. In that way that I'm so oftentimes chasing a moment or something to improvise. I can sometimes see Jason the improviser there instead of Apollo or Derek or Adrian Pimento or whatever. I instead see me who just had a clever idea and is now just waiting to unload it. And I'm like, oh, this fucking idiot. Why can't I even cover with a bit of a performance so that I can strike with a. With a. With a great line? But no, I can see all the mechanics in my mind, but it's almost always happening while someone else is talking. So hopefully nobody's looking at me because that's. That's what it is for me. It's that same thing of like, oh, man, I wish I'd done that better. I wish. I just wish I wasn't chasing that. That bit or that joke or whatever. I can quibble with all of it. You know, I'm confidently there. But when I watch it back. I'm full of self recrimination.
- [37:34]
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm whoever my favorite actor is when I'm working.
- [37:38]
Ted Danson
Yes.
- [37:38]
Jason Mantzoukas
But when I watch, I'm just this judgmental dick.
- [37:41]
Ted Danson
Totally, completely. Oh, absolutely. I get that. I think we all are. And that's why I think a lot of people don't watch their stuff. Yeah, I do. Because I also think of it as kind of a learning experience. I get better because I watch it and it's humbling.
- [37:55]
Jason Mantzoukas
Humbling is good.
- [37:56]
Ted Danson
Oh yeah. And I. And God forbid if I was out here not watching it back and just walking off sets being like, yo, just like Rocky. I look at me, I fucking did it. And then I watch it back and I'm like, oh God, that's trash. What am I doing?
- [38:14]
Jason Mantzoukas
Somewhere in between is probably true. So better to be there.
- [38:17]
Ted Danson
And that is how I always feel. Somewhere in between is the actual performance.
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Paul Scheer
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Ted Danson
Am I dad?
- [42:43]
Discord Callers/Listeners
Hiya, boss.
- [42:44]
Paul Scheer
Now he has 24 hours to find a way out or he'll lose everything.
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Jason Mantzoukas
The woman I love is living with.
- [42:50]
Paul Scheer
A little monkey that looks like me. Ow.
- [42:53]
Discord Callers/Listeners
What a lucky girl.
- [42:55]
Paul Scheer
Brendan Fraser, Bridget Fonda, Chris Kattan. Monkey bones.
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Ted Danson
Right back after I choke my monkey.
- [43:02]
Paul Scheer
You can stream Monkeybone for free on the Hoopla app through many local public libraries, or you can rent it on Apple tv, Amazon prime, or Fandango at home. All right, people, you got your work cut out for you. You're gonna listen to Ted Danson's podcast. You're gonna watch my documentary about Swifty Dads. You can check out Jason on Broadway. And honestly, if you haven't watched Weapons, I'm shocked that that movie didn't get nominated for more stuff, like at least a screenplay award. Right? Shouldn't have gotten that. Haven't seen it get nominated for too much stuff. But June's in that, and that's why I bring it up. Anyway, that's it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Also, make sure you're following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. And you can visit us on social media at hdtgm. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, and our engineer, Casey Holford, as well as our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum. We will forever be thankful to the one and only Avril Halley who got us here. And we'll see you next week for Monkeybone. Hi, I'm Jenny Slate, and believe it or not, someone is allowing us to have a podcast.
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Ted Danson
I'm Gabe Wiedman.
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Paul Scheer
I'm Max Silvestri. And we've been friends for 20 years. And we like to reach out to kind of get advice on how to live our lives.
- [44:15]
Ted Danson
It's called I need you guys.
- [44:17]
Paul Scheer
Should I give my baby fresh vegetables? Can I drink the water at the hospital?
- [44:22]
Ted Danson
My landlord Lord plays the trombone and.
- [44:24]
Paul Scheer
I can't ask him to stop.
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Ted Danson
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Paul Scheer
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