Last Looks: Q The Winged Serpent

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – Episode: Last Looks: Q The Winged Serpent
Release Date: November 22, 2024
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas

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Introduction and Episode Overview

In the episode titled "Last Looks: Q The Winged Serpent," hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas delve into the convoluted world of the 1970s cop movie Q The Winged Serpent. This film, blending elements of science fiction and crime drama, has gained a cult following for its peculiar storyline and production quirks. The hosts aim to unravel the layers that make this movie both baffling and endearingly entertaining.

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Initial Impressions and Movie Breakdown

Jason Mantzoukas kicks off the discussion with a succinct summary:

"There's a beast over Manhattan streets. Plus a small-time crook who finds a body... Q, the winged serpent" (01:53).

Paul Scheer adds:

"This flick flies by so fast. 92 improv minutes to be precise." (02:31)

The hosts express their bewilderment at the film's hybrid genre, questioning its identity as either a sci-fi or crime story.

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Corrections and Omissions

The segment titled "Corrections and Omissions" invites input from listeners to rectify any inaccuracies from their initial analysis.

• MCG3D points out an inconsiderate scene where detectives leave a body with a "Do Not Disturb" sign, reflecting poor police protocol of the 1970s.

  “Like, how little do they care about who is going to come and clean that room...” (06:04)

• Sean McBee challenges a claim from director Larry Cohen about a non-existent New York Times article detailing anthropologists investigating a mysterious nest:

  “Larry Cohen is a big fat liar...” (06:31)

• Lizette reveals:

  “Carradine's wife was actually his real wife at the time,” and that the sacrifice victim was played by Carradine's brother, indicating rushed casting decisions. (09:00)

• Del Preston uncovers that a song titled "Evil Dream" credited in the movie was improvised by Michael Moriarty, revealing an unexpected layer to the soundtrack.

  “Del Preston, you just uncovered something that blows my mind.” (14:15)

The hosts commend Del Preston for his insightful contribution and award him a special song by Joel Terry.

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Bonus Scene from the Live Show

An exclusive snippet from the live show features Paul and Jason discussing character dynamics and inconsistencies within Q The Winged Serpent.

Jason Mantzoukas observes:

“The operation to take down Q... [is] rest assured, they fuck.” (17:29)

Paul Scheer humorously highlights:

“You know, when you go get your car serviced...am I getting taken for a ride?” (00:00) (Note: This seems to be a residual ad segment and likely excluded from the summary.)

The conversation underscores the film's absurdity and the hosts' enjoyment in dissecting its flaws.

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Just Chat – Music and Pop Culture

In the "Just Chat" segment, Paul and Jason diverge from discussing the movie to talk about their latest musical adventures and pop culture interests.

• Music Recommendations:
  Jason shares his admiration for Joni Mitchell's recent performances and his experience attending Mary Lattimore's live shows featuring her mother.

  “Mary is going to be doing a residency...so see you can avail yourself of the opportunity.” (40:25)

• Concert Experiences:
  Jason recounts attending Destroyer's concert at the Lodge Room and meeting guitarist MDU Mokhtar.

  “Super interesting guy to talk to.” (40:51)

• Podcast and TV Show Discussions:
  Jason recommends the KCRW podcast Lost Notes focused on 60s and 70s LA groupies and shares his thoughts on new releases like Skeleton Crew, a Star Wars series featuring young adventurers.

  “It's like a Goonies kid adventure with Jude Law as the adult.” (32:46)

• Upcoming Releases and Personal Favorites:
  Paul expresses excitement for upcoming episodes, including the Christmas livestream and previews next week's discussion on the body-swap comedy Dream A Little Dream.

  “Next week, we will be doing the 1989 body swap comedy Dream A Little Dream...” (53:33)

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Announcements and Future Episodes

Paul Scheer wraps up the episode by teasing the next installment:

"Next week we will be doing the 1989 body swap comedy Dream A Little Dream..." (53:33)

Listeners are encouraged to rate, review, and follow the podcast on platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Additionally, exclusive merchandise such as "Team Fred" pint glasses and Paul Scheer's book Joyful Recollections of Trauma are advertised, available at Podswag.com.

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Closing Remarks

The hosts extend gratitude to their producers and announce upcoming guests, including James Acaster from Taskmaster and Off Menu. Paul emphasizes the importance of listener engagement through Discord and social media channels.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Paul Scheer:

  "This flick flies by so fast. 92 improv minutes to be precise." (02:31)

• Jason Mantzoukas:

  "It's time for corrections and omissions." (06:04)

• Del Preston:

  "This is one of the best corrections and omissions that we've had in a very long time." (16:32)

• Paul Scheer:

  "Remember, if you want to submit a theme song to us, please email your theme to [e-mail]..." (16:11)

• Jason Mantzoukas:

  "I love it." (23:20)

• Paul Scheer:

  "Coming up next week, we'll be discussing Dream A Little Dream..." (53:33)

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Conclusion

"Last Looks: Q The Winged Serpent" offers a comprehensive and humorous examination of a film that defies conventional categorization. Through listener interactions and deep dives into production anomalies, the hosts provide an entertaining dissection that not only critiques but also celebrates the quirks of bad cinema. Their seamless transition into discussions about music and pop culture further enriches the episode, making it a must-listen for aficionados of unconventional films and comedic analysis.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a beast over Manhattan streets. Plus a small time crook who finds a body. Shepherd and pal. The detectives we meet discover human sacrifice. Quetzal is a God from the past. Is this a sci fi film or a crime story? Who even cares? This flick flies by so fast. 92 improv minutes to be precise. It's Q, the winged serpent on how did this get made?

[Paul Scheer]

And it's time for a second opinion.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As we go to the reviews. Do you think you'll be swayed?

[Paul Scheer]

This is SM by far so bizarre. But they gave it 5 stars. Amazing. Give it up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Hello all you undercover mimes. I'm Your host, Paul Scheer. And welcome to how did this Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Q the Winged Serpent, a movie that Discord user Maximum Derek thinks should have had the tagline Q the Winged Serpent. More improv than dinosaur. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you, Maximum Derek, for plugging my own show. Yes, Dinosaur. We just got off a big week long tour on the East Coast. For more info, you could check out my website. But that's not a plug. I don't want to be plugging right now. I want to be applauding Maximum Derek. Thank you, Maximum Derek, for that alt tagline. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to our Discord. Right? Just jump on there, put it up, and maybe, just maybe, if you plug one of my shows or my book or it's just plain funny, we will select you for this highly, highly coveted spot of alt tagline. I don't know, we don't have a title for that. But you won. You won something there. All right, coming up on today's episode, you'll be hearing all of your corrections and omissions on Q the Winged Serpent. Then Jason will stop by to chat with me about the music and the podcast that we are currently listening to. And you're going to want a pen because we're going fast and there's a lot of good suggestions in there. Plus, as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. Heads up. Our livestream, how did this get Made? Is doing a live stream. It's available all around the world. It's on December 12th. Plus, Jessica Sinclair is joining us, which is going to be such a blast. The movie is called you've got Christmas Mail. Now, I know a lot of you have been saying, paul, do Hot Frosty, but Avril watched it and she said it's not good enough. All right, so trust us again, the live stream is December 12th. You can watch it seven days after the broadcast. Just go to HDTGM to get your tickets. They're very conservatively priced. Is that the right way to say it? I don't know. All right. Are you looking for some holiday gifts? Of course you are. Do you have a How did this get Made fan in your life? Well, guess what. You can get a limited batch of my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, exclusively for how did this get Made? Fans [e-mail] now, the books are very special because they come bundled with a custom bookmark that you couldn't get anywhere else. I gave these out on tour. I reached out to my friend Castle McQuaid to make some just for this. So if you want that exclusive Paul dressed at Blockbuster bookmark, you'll get that at Podswag. Plus, each book is inscribed with some sort of a how did this get made? Saying, whether it's a face, waterfall, a geostorm, Team Sanity, whatever you get, you don't know. Plus, speaking of team Sanity, we have these amazing new Team Fred and Team Sanity pint glasses, which look amazing. Please check this stuff out. Podswag really stepped it up this season. All right, that is all the plugs that I got. Now, last week, we did talk about Q, the winged serpent. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is time for corrections and omissions.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's time for corrections and omissions.

[Paul Scheer]

We got a couple things wrong, but we're gonna fix that right now. That's why we're singing this song. We're gonna take a couple phone calls.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe you know something we don't.

[Paul Scheer]

Perhaps you can change our opinion, but it's likely that you won't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Corrections and omissions, our bad.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you, Brash Menagerie, for that theme song. Let's go to the discord. All right, this is what we got here. MCG3D writes. Can we talk about how after they shot and killed the bad guy who was doing the sacrifices at the end, they just left the body in the room, closed the door, and put a do not disturb sign on it and walked away? Like, how little do they care about who is going to come and clean that room. MCG3D, we talked about that in the show. It was crazy. Not only do they not care, they put a. Like, a little sign there for the maid to find the body. Right? So this is a cop who was on. He's in the scene of a crime. He committed an act of violence. He should be filing a report, but no, he just leaves it for the maid. That's the seventies for you cops. You shoot them, you go home. There's no reports to file back then. Sean McBee writes Paul's Tidbit about the real scientists examining the abandoned nest long after the production had wrapped. Came from writer director Larry Cohen himself on the film's commentary track. Larry said the story was on the front page of the New York Times. I was curious, so I went to the New York Times archives to attempt to find this article. I Searched every conceivable term that might turn up the story, and what I found is. Oh, no, I know what you're doing, Sean. Larry Cohen is a big fat liar. Okay? Not only was this never a New York Times front page story, but there was never a story about this in the New York Times or anywhere else because it never happened. Larry claimed that anthropologists descended on New York, curious about the mysterious nest found in an abandoned police station, as if it were a nest built by the ancient Lunapai tribe of Manhattan. And the city constructed a police station around it. No one who finds that fake ass looking nest in an abandoned building is calling scientists. They're calling trash pickup. Well, Sean McBee, it sounded odd, I agree, but I had to share it. And I'm glad that you were able to call out that Larry Cohen loves to make up a good story, as we all know, because we loved Q. The winged serpent. All right. Lovely. Lizette writes. I thought for sure Paul was going to mention it in the episode. Oh, what did I do? Lizette, the woman who plays Carradine's wife, was his actual wife at the time. Okay, you thought I was going to mention that? Is that interesting? We'll see. Also, the sacrifice victim was played by Carradine's brother. I'm going to bet that both castings were due to the short notice of pre production. I agree. I agree. That's actually, you made a good point at the end. I didn't know if it was worthy of mentioning it because Carradine's wife is barely in the movie and the sacrifice victim is barely again. These are, you know, small parts. But you're right, I think that that probably just speaks to the fact that they were so rushed, they're just, you know, calling anybody they get to come on down. I mean, look, the director is in the movie as a sacrifice victim. He just threw himself in there. That's what I'm talking about. That's movie making. That's 824, 1970 style. All right, let's go to the phones. Rory from New Orleans. What do you got, Paul? I was a minute or two into the Q episode and I noticed that you scoffed at the ide of a robbery homicide unit. That is what most cop units call that. Like, if you look up any city's RHC division, and Jason should know this as a big Bosch fan, RHC is a big part of bosh. Robbery homicide is the common denominator. That, like, that's what they call that. So look it up. Look up. You Know Corpus Christi, rhd. It's a thing. Bye, Worry. Thank you. As a Bosch fan, I am embarrassed. I've watched all seasons of Bosch, and I'm very excited for the new Bosch spinoff. I guess what I found weird was that they were investigating them both simultaneously. It's like, we got robberies, we got murders. I guess what you're saying is they're doing both. They're doing both simultaneously. So if a bank is being robbed, that's the same person who's also investigating a serial killing. If that's what you're saying, then I found it hard to believe that those same cops are doing both jobs. I would think that there would be a specialization on some level. But, Rory, I'm going to believe you. Just like I believed Larry Cohen that the same cops who are investigating a serial killer often also are solving robberies. All right. And you're probably right. I'm saying it like disbelieving, but you probably are right. Well, first of all, let me say this. I never saw Bosh bopping back and forth between. I saw them doing a robbery homicide, but I didn't see them doing, like, a robbery and a homicide. I still don't believe you, but I know you're right. All right, Ashley from California, what do you got? Hey, Paul. So the latest episode. Cue the winged serpent. So, I am a public school teacher, a fifth grade teacher in the state of California.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And we have a story in our.

[Paul Scheer]

Reading comprehension curriculum called how the Fifth Sun Came to Be, which is an Aztec myth, which features the God Ketsu, which is Q, the winged serpent. So I just wanted to share that little bit of information as we are shaping young minds here in the state of California. Bye, Ashley. You are shaping the best young minds. We need to bring back Quetzalcoatl in schools. Gavin Newsom, I hope you're listening, because we need Quetzalcoatl in every school. We need the Book of the Suns, by the way, speaking of which, we do have an amazing shirt that we just made at Teepublic. It is called the Winged Serpent. I mean, what else would it be called? I guess. Is that Quetzalcoatl? I don't know. I didn't know that he was a winged serpent like that. But I love that you're teaching that. And please, if anyone else is teaching that, let me know what the kids think about Quetzalcoatl. All right, back to the discord. Del Preston writes. One thing I noticed during the end credits was the song in quotes. Michael Moriarty played In the bar was actually listed as the only song on the soundtrack. He just made that whole thing up on the spot, obviously, but they still credited it and it was titled Evil Dream. And at the end of the episode, you played that scene with him and Candy Clark where he says, I get all this evil dream, you know, evil dream, go away. And I didn't put two and two together while I was watching it, but a couple days ago I realized it was obviously a callback to his song. And he's harking back to the lyric slash title of the song, which is why he says it in a sing songy, weird way. Del Preston, hold on to your butt because this might be the winning one. I mean, right now you just uncovered something that blows my mind. This is what Michael Moriarty is doing. It's one of the best performances of all time. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. I love this. Del Preston. All right, Joel from Chicago. All the things he speculated about improvising scenes, shooting without permits, letting actors run wild were par for the course for Larry Cohen. His maverick, okay, reckless approach and sense of humor are well loved among cinephiles. No less than Martin Scorsese is prominently featured in a great documentary about Larry called King Cohen. We know Larry as a B movie legend, but he also infiltrated the A picture realm, or at least mainstream Hollywood for penning scripts for Phone Booth and the how did this get made? Favorite Cellular, which is essentially Phone Booth. So I guess he had a phone related fixation for a bit. He even wrote a movie directed by the legend Sidney Lumet, Guilty as Sin. And now here's a note from our producer, Scott Cohen actually also co wrote Cellular with Chris Morgan, who wrote and produced several Fast and Furious movies. Yes, Chris Morgan, legend. And here's what I'm going to say. I have a feeling that Larry Cohen wrote Cellular and then Chris Morgan was given that script to punch up and he added so much of his own stuff that they got a co credit on it. That would be my guess. I don't think that Chris Morgan and Larry Cohen were just in like a coffee bean and tea leaf, you know, slamming out pages on that one. That is great. And I have to watch King Cohen. I know everyone's so happy that we did cue the winged serpent. I am too. If there's any more Larry Cohen that we should watch, let us know. Django 2108 writes, Michael Moriarty is actually a genius with his tarp over the building obsession. Anyone who owns a winged creature knows that if you cover their cage they go right to sleep. Well, that is true, right? Yeah. If they drop a tarp on the building while Q is in there, it would be an easy kill. Or capture. A much better solution than shooting randomly at the top of a building. All right, well, Django 2108, I had birds growing up. My stepfather had birds. And we would put the tarp over. But here's the thing that you're missing. That's for birds, not dinosaurs. I mean, that is a winged creature. You called it out. I don't know if the same rules apply for, like, parakeets and parrots as a winged serpent. That's a serpent, not a bird. A serpent. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but I'm not gonna lie. I already said it. There's one winner, and that winner is Del Preston, who did the hard work. He let this movie infiltrate his brain and he found a connection to something so obscure that I think this is one of the best corrections and omissions that we've had in a very long time. Bringing it back old school. Del Preston, you are our winner and you get nothing but this amazing song from Joel Terry. Hit it. You win.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everybody else all loses.

[Paul Scheer]

You don't get a medal to prove.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It, but you don't need no accolades. You can sit back and say, I win tonight on post mini episode. I win tonight on post teeny tiny little mini episode.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you, Joel, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit a theme song to us, please email your theme to how did this get made? @earwolf.com and keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord gg hdtgm or call us at 619-P-U L A S K. But coming up after the break, Jason will join us for a classic Just Chat. I want to remind you that if you are a fan of the Deep Dive with Jessica Sinclair and June Diane Rayfield, they are doing a holiday livestream. You can get tickets for that [e-mail] it's going to be a lot of fun. I just built a brand new studio and they're going to be christening it. That's going to be a great fun show. Now, before we go to commercial, I have a bonus scene from our Cue the Winged Serpent Live show. This is exclusive just to you last looks listeners. I mean, it's not that exclusive, but it's exclusive enough. Here we go. Check it Out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I did like about the cops and their relationship.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like in a lot of cop movies that came after this, everybody seems so young. And these guys together, David Carradine, it's like, oh, they're old.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, they're old, but rest assured, they fuck.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, 1,000%.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But, like, there's something nice about that.

[Paul Scheer]

Again, this. This movie is a movie that purports that the NYPD is about six dudes who cover all the cases.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, because it seems like Richard Roundtree is like, why would he even ever be talking to Michael Moriarty's character? There is no reason to. And that's the thing there. Are they detectives? Are they. Do they have a beat? Like I could. Are they patrol? And then also, David Carradine is leading.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The operation to also take down Q.

[Paul Scheer]

From the top of the building.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, there does seem to be interested in pursuing, you know, Q as a winged serpent. And Richard Rountree is like, this is bullshit. I will not abide this. Like, they're at odds. Which is strange.

[Paul Scheer]

But what's so funny to me is also like, David Carradine went home and wrote, like, a book report about Quetzalcoatl. Like, he's like, here's my report. My report is here. And he got. It's not evidence. Like, police reports are. Like, we came in, we saw this. Like, he seems like he wrote a book report.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You were trying to give some background information.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, I would have loved to have read that report because it looked like it was in a nice folder. It reminded me of something that I might have done.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Somebody should have given more of an expositional download. I would have appreciated.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, me too. Well, we have that whole walk and talk. The very awkward walk and talk. We have two of them. One outside of Columbia and one inside the museum where they really try to break down. Now, I thought one of the guys who was sacrificed at the end was one of those professors.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Quite possibly.

[Paul Scheer]

Was it? What? No, he was. Was it? Oh, interesting. All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do we ever really get insight into what they are up to? I don't know who they represent, what they're all about.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, I think that they're just trying to bring back Quetzalcoatl.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's it. Good news.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

How did this get made?

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome back, everybody. I'm sure you've noticed that every Monday we re release old how did this get made? Episodes back into our feed. I know that everyone's talking about Wicked, so we wanted to, you know, kind of do something a little bit musical here as well. So this week's episode was Cats. Next week's will be Spice World. So we'll keep that music alive through the Thanksgiving holidays. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Monday. And now, without any further ado, it is time to just chat with Jason and to play us in. We have a special theme in the style of jizz music from the Star wars universe. Yes, we've talked about this a lot. The music in Star wars is called Jizz. That's not a joke. It's real. So move over, Max Rebo Band. It is time to hear the action Jackson Fives jizz chat theme.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I love it.

[Paul Scheer]

Here we go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason and Paul just chat.

[Paul Scheer]

Talk about comics and movie biz. June's got a bad feel about this Star wars music and all that jizz. Jason and Paul, just chat. Jason. Oh, my gosh. It's been far too long.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we are.

[Paul Scheer]

Here we are. November and we are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is fall, baby. And if you're listening to this right now, we're probably on the East Coast.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, we've been doing shows, so come out, see us do shows. And of course, so excited for our Christmas show that's coming up our virtual live stream.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Has the movie been announced for that? Do we know what we're watching?

[Paul Scheer]

It's called Christmas Mail.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Christmas Mail. M A I L or M A.

[Paul Scheer]

L E M A I L. And it seems to be about a mailman. I think that's not quite the title. Hold on, let me look it up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Scott. Producer Scott, interrupting the flow. It's called.

[Paul Scheer]

It's called We've got Christmas Mail. Oh, we've got Christmas Mail.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So, wow. Playing off of the aol, you've got Mail. But it's now we've got Christmas Mail.

[Paul Scheer]

Geez, this is a 2010 classic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, 2010. I was gonna say, like to be. To be using the AOL catchphrase at this point does seem insane.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, what's so kind of interesting is I've been looking at this poster because I make all the ads that's, you know, the way we do it here. And the we've got is very tiny. Christmas mail is very big. It Almost looks like the Christmas mail. But we've got. I'm just like, how did I miss. We've got. It's so tiny. We've got.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Very strange. And is this a. Does somebody turn into something? Does an anime look?

[Paul Scheer]

I want to. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know a thing. I know that Avril found this and she never misses with the holiday films. I know a lot of people wanted to do Frosty Hot or whatever. There's been a bunch. There's like a, there's a few out there that people wanted to do. There's a Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift one that Jessica.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, what?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Jessica.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no, it's not them. It's. Oh, no. You're saying it's like based on that. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I for a second was like, wait, have they already done a movie together? That was amazing.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love to see. I would be thrilled. Yeah, I mean, I love that time of the year. I mean, when I go to my, my dad's house in New York, I'll just pop on Lifetime when I'm going to bed around Thanksgiving time and it's already begun. Life is, you know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah. See for me th. That period of time, I don't watch those movies that is reserved for Gilmore Girls.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Gilmore Girls, like Thanksgiving to Christmas is peak. Rewatch Gilmore Girls a season, which is incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

See now how many seasons are there of that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Seven seasons of Gilmore Girls, although season seven, I think you can put brackets around and never watch it again because it's the season where the Paladinos were fired from the show. So it feels like, it feels like after season four of West Wing where the driving force of the show and its unique voice has somehow disappeared. I will say, while we're on the topic, I've started listening to the audiobook, Kelly Bishop's audiobook, the third Gilmore Girl AKA Emily Gilmore. And it is dynamite. She reads it, it's fantastic. And you very kindly gave me a Gilmore Girls advent calendar. Thank you, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

I was so excited to find that and get that for you and I wanted to make sure you had it for day one. Day one. And here's the thing, Jason, you said seven seasons, but do you include the. The Netflix season?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I didn't get there because I was going to say, and there is of course Amy Sherman Palladino does do her final season, which is, you know, 12 years later on Netflix, which is four movie length episodes. A year in the life is what it's called.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you you don't seem as enthused.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, let me be clear. I think it's. It's gangbusters with some fantastic cameos. Yours, your. Yours truly makes a cameo, but I think it's very uneven. I think though, the. It is one of the best Emily Gilmore storylines in the show. I. Emily Gilmore is like one of my favorite characters in the show and I feel like. Doesn't get. Is kind of can oftentimes be relegated to like the villain or whatever. But her story overall and including those four episodes of the A Year in the Life are right. She's doing incredible work. I think Kelly Bishop is amazing. Also amazing in Buttheads. But you know, Emily Gilmore, I won't hear spoilers for A Year in the Life only because the actor Edward Herman has passed away. Has long since passed away.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who plays Richard Gilmore. And so her story is quite like, incredibly one of just profound loss and grief. And that is a very compelling story.

[Paul Scheer]

I love that. And can I just. Because I have not seen it. Who do you play? Who do you cameo in there as?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I play a zero. I play a nobody. I basically said, I will do anything. And they took that and they ran with it. So I am a lawyer who makes a 40 second telephone call to Rory Gilmore to fire her from a job she's had. I work for. I work for a woman who's made a publishing deal with Rory and it's played by Alex Kingston. River Song from Doctor who, of course. Right. And so I'm in my only scene with her. That's it.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't, I don't meet any of the Gilmore.

[Paul Scheer]

You didn't get to go to Stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't go to Stars Hollow. I'm in a random building. I was there for like 40 minutes. It was the thrill of a lifetime.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I can only imagine. I mean, like, I mean, what, What a. Those are the best pop ins, pop in, pop out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Especially when you're such. When you're, when you're a fan, it just feels cool. And I tried to play it cool and I was professional. And then when I was done and the Paladinos came over to say thanks so much, I was. I started to give them a spiel about what a big fan I was and how much this meant to me. And they were like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. We heard and that was it.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. You know, we were talking this weekend that my son has gotten into Star wars and we talked about it a little bit. And I have to tell you, did you see the trailer for Skeleton Crew?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I haven't watched it yet because I'm just going to watch the show. I'm just like, there are certain things that I'm like, oh, I'm so excited. I don't want to get spoiled. I don't want to know that this or that might happen. I don't want to be waiting for. Well, in the trailer, I saw that clip of blah, blah, blah. I don't care. I want it to all feel new.

[Paul Scheer]

I. You know what? I appreciate that. I was just trying to show him because my son now is like, well, why aren't there more things? I think, well, this is going to be right up your alley, kiddo. Watch out. We're watching. You know, we're watching Taskmaster kids. We're watching Skeleton Girl. I mean, love that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you're not. If you. You've heard Paul and I talk about Taskmaster in the past. James Acaster, a past Taskmaster contestant, just guested on our Dream a Little Dream episode, which perhaps is out by now or is imminent. But the new Taskmaster season that's airing right now is Rose Matafeo. Incredible. Rose Matafeo from. She's a Taskmaster contestant. She's starstruck. She's fantastic. Go ahead.

[Paul Scheer]

She's great. As the Task, it's a very different dynamic because it's kids and it's fun, though it's still very funny. And the first thing in got me hooked. They. They put their assistant, the new assistant.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

For the show, Mike Wozniak is his name.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. They put Mike on a rotating circle. Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So it's a spinning around a lazy.

[Paul Scheer]

Susan, and that's spinning. And he's wearing a very tall top hat. And the goal is get as many things into my hat as you possibly can without stepping on the red that surrounds the lazy Susan. And my gosh, these kids right out of the gate figured out how to subvert that beautifully, and they got a. They got a lot of sass, these kids. You know, very simple task, but already I'm like, this is going to be a lot of fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So fantastic. He's also a, like, a favorite of mine from past Taskmaster seasons. Both of those two have been on fantastic seasons of the show, and I.

[Paul Scheer]

Think they do a good job so far of making it feel very much like Taskmaster without. Look, there's certain things you can't do with kids, and I think rightly so, but it also is incredibly funny.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, so good.

[Paul Scheer]

The only thing I wanted to tell you about Skeleton crew. And I don't think this is a spoiler because it's not really.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no, you can say anything to me. I'm happy to talk about it.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, is they got a kid. Max Rebo. Max Rebo, you might remember from Return of the Jedi, plays the piano.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, he's playing Jizz in Jabba's place. Jizz, the canonical music of Star Wars.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God, I hate that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, how did they do that? Every time fanboys get all upset about George Lucas is infallible. George Lucas meant this. George Lucas meant that. This is against. Just remember that his. He created a music and called it Jizz.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, what are you doing, guys?

[Paul Scheer]

And, and like the fact that, like, there are certain things it's like, how did it get so far? Because it's not like, oh, he wouldn't know what jizz means.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep. But why keep it? Yeah. Oh, no, it's too good.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I love that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a kid. Max Rebo. Yeah, I saw that in a picture.

[Paul Scheer]

That's. That's what I was very excited about. That's, you know, I don't know. Know much more about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's got big Goonies vibes. It's just in case there might be people on in the audience who don't know what Skeleton Crew is. It's a new Star wars series on Disney that is a group of kids. It's like a Goonies kid adventure with Jude Law as the adult.

[Paul Scheer]

And I think it's like basically they, from what I understand, again, this is us talking out of school. They steal a ship. They steal a ship. And. And that's where the, the adventure begins.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it's John Watt who did the. Right. It's John Watt who did the.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And David Lowry is directing it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Or directed some episodes. And also my, my friend and director of Twisters, Isaac Chung, he directed as well.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Lowry, if you don't, if you aren't familiar, does. Has done everything from like Pete's Dragon to the Green Knight and, you know, all the Ghost Story and all these incredible movies. He's one of the great, like, visual stylists of our time.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you know what? All I'll say is when it comes out, make sure you set some time aside to watch An Almost Christmas Story, an animated holiday short by David Lowery, produced by Alfonso Cuaron. Oh, wow. It is. It has. John C. Reilly is in it. Natasha Leone, Jim Gaffigan. It is a beautiful stop motion animation piece that he did that you will Absolutely. Love.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is this new? Is this something that's available right now?

[Paul Scheer]

It is available. I believe by this time it will be available. Yeah. Great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So maybe we'll put it in the show notes or something. Yes, a link or something.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, I've got a bunch of music stuff to talk about. I've got a bunch of shows to talk about.

[Paul Scheer]

Some music stuff. You know, why not? I feel like there's been so much. I need some new music recommendations.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure, sure, sure. So I'm gonna shout out a couple of live shows I've seen, and in doing so, shine light on those artists as well. So one of them we've talked about a million times before. I know you weren't able to make it, but June was Joni Mitchell at the Hollywood Bowl. Absolutely. I mean, like a. Like a Hall of Fame concert for me. Like a one like. I know we had an incredible time in Seattle last year, and this was like that. Just like, it just also was at the bowl, which was. Which was awesome, you know, And I.

[Paul Scheer]

Saw her do a. Like, a little version of what we saw in Seattle with Brandy Carlisle. But this really, I heard was like her show, unreal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She ran real. So in Seattle, I'll say, like in Newport and Seattle, the first two kind of Joanie comes out of. Not retirement, but comes out in this plane again. She seemed really kind of still recovering from her ailments and illnesses. And Brandy Carlisle doing an incredible amount of work to kind of doing guide vocals and doubling Joanie and really keeping it moving at the Bowl. This was Joanie's show. She felt healthy and robust, and she was in beautiful voice. And the set list was incredible because it was all like, my favorite Joanie. It was all like 80s and 90s Joni Mitch.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was like Hajira. And they. She played half of Hajira. She played songs off of Mingus, off of Dog Eat Dog. She played three songs off of off of Knight Ride Home, which is like a 90s album that I love. Incredible song list. She played some hits, but not nearly as many as I think people wanted. It was a absolutely stunning show and just great. And her archives have continued to be releasing. There was a great box set recently of live era Joanie recordings from the Asylum years and beyond. There's great stuff in there. I saw Destroyer, Dan Behar from New Pornographers, and, of course, Destroyer.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I ask you a question about Joni? When we were in Seattle, it felt to me, like, that concert was being taped. We saw drones. We saw many things. Any word on camera?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Crow. Yes. Cameron Crowe. So Cameron Crowe has been making a Joanie documentary for years.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, got it. So this is part of a larger.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Shooting this as well, at the Bowl, I believe.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There was cameras all over the place. So I'm assuming that all of that footage is for his documentary. That's my assumption. I could be wrong. Maybe there's something else going on or multiple things going on. But I do know, and I did see him in Seattle, so I know he's still doing that.

[Paul Scheer]

And at the time of taping, as I just googled him, just a few hours ago, he had his third baby.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cameron crowe.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep. At 67 years old, has.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. His first with his girlfriend and. Yeah. Oh, God, there it is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Holy cow.

[Paul Scheer]

Third kid out there. Yeah. There you go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Good work. Good work. Camera crowd.

[Paul Scheer]

So, yes. In the Destroyer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Destroyer. Incredible show at the Lodge Room here in Los Angeles, which I love. Beautiful room. I went to the Terragram Ballroom a couple of weeks ago.

[Paul Scheer]

Love that venue. Love that venue.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Love that venue. Great. Great folks who work there. And I saw the incredible guitar player, MDU Mokhtar, who is a Nigerian guitar player, Desert blues kind of guitar player. Just shredding guitar solos over driving rhythms. Fantastic show. Got to meet him briefly and was absolutely fascinating. Super interesting guy to talk to.

[Paul Scheer]

I am a big fan of Destroyer, and I am bummed that I miss that. I don't go see concerts anymore. I feel like it's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, there's some good ones coming up. I also went and saw last week, just before we had our shows at Largo.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mary Lattimore, who I saw in London, had a show at Largo where she played duets with her mom. And it was incredible. Who also plays harp. So it was two harps on stage. It was stunning. The show was phenomenal.

[Paul Scheer]

The way that I heard that show described was really amazing. They said that, you know, normally in a show that is a little quieter, inevitably you'll hear the cough, the rapper, whatever it is. Like those things that kind of take you out of it. And our friend Michael was like. It was deadly silent, and everyone was in a full trance enjoying the. Like he said it was never had, Never had been. And this is a person who works at Largo. He never. Has he seen a show where everyone was so locked in on the same page.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was. He's right. I. That's how I felt every. It was. Everybody was, like, completely engaged and wrapped by the show. It was. It was so beautiful. And, you know, it is quiet, so you have to be quiet to listen to it and to hear it. And it was so beautiful and so moving. The show itself was fantastic and also so, like, lovely to see Mary interacting with her mom. And her mom was just a hilarious character and was wonderful. And the mom played songs by herself, Mary played some songs by herself, and then they played songs together. It was just a fantastic show. I loved it, loved it, loved it. And just for people who might be in Los Angeles, I think this is probably out there already, but Mary is going to be doing a residency at Zebulon in Frog Town in January. So I think you can see you'll have, I think, a bunch of opportunities to see her and play, which is. I really urge you to. To avail yourself of the opportunity to see her as much as you can, because quite often every show she has different guests. She's like one of music's great collaborators in that she is constantly bouncing off of other people. An accordion player, a guitar player, all sorts of different stuff which leads to such different avenues of exploration. So fantastic experience. Going to see Mary Lattimore.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I have to say, you know, I. I met a guy in a band, and I think we were talking about this maybe backstage a little bit. I also want to recommend the Wolves of Glendale, which are a. A funny. A funny band. Like, but I know that that's like a hard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But they're band band.

[Paul Scheer]

They're band band. They play great music. Their songs are great. They're on tour right now. Check them out online if you want to check out a song. I'd say start with the gym and then see what you think. But they are on tour, and I just met them right before they left tour, and they. They had told me, Ethan, one of the members of the band said, you know, I just watched Trap, and I got to listen to your episode before I left. And I said, well, you better be careful because, you know, you. You're playing a lot of these gigs. There might be a. There might be a butcher out there for you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It might be a trap.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And I think, oh, that's funny. I think that we're going to be in D.C. on the same night as them. So we wanted to meet up and say, hey, oh, that's great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I met some of them. They played at. When we were picketing at Paramount one day, they came down, set up, and played. And it was. I had no idea. They were great. Everybody was so excited they were there and so excited they Were playing. It was a blast. They probably played for 30 minutes while everybody was walking in the big circle. And it was awesome. They were great. I got to meet them very briefly.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Really funny guys. Really, really funny guys. And also just like, that's the thing. Sometimes I feel like music takes a backseat when you have funny comedy bands. Right. And this doesn't happen like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. I agree. That can be often the case, which is the jokes come first. And these guys are for real musicians. This is not a joke band. This is a rock. An indie rock band that happens to be clever and funny.

[Paul Scheer]

I love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a new Yasmine Williams album out that I cannot recommend enough. I think it's fantastic. And then Daryl Johns, who I'm like, so obsessed with from a song he put out like two years ago. This guy has only had like one song on Band Camp for years that I was obsessed with.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then finally he's got a new album out. And it's. So far this tracks I've heard are great that by now the album is out, but as of this recording, it has yet to come out. There's only a couple of. There's only a couple of tracks and they're fantastic. So Daryl Johns can't recommend that enough, I think. Super interesting. Great. There's a lot of great music happening right now. Geordie Greep from Black Midi, the British post punk band Blackie has a solo album. There's new Waxahachie. There's new Florist. Come on, guys. There's great. There's new. The new. The new Joby record. The. The.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jazz Ensemble. Absolutely fantastic record. Yeah. Porridge Radio. New music from Porridge Radio. New music from the Innocence Mission. What a band that existed. A Christian folk rock band from my college years have just put out a new record. Come on.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great work.

[Paul Scheer]

I love all this. You know, we have. We've threatened it, but I think that people have been trying to keep up with all your recommendations. There's a lot of Spotify lists. If you go onto our Discord. Oh, really? See, people are trying to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Gotta figure this out. How to make a. I want to. I want to make a playlist, but I.

[Paul Scheer]

You just give it to me and I could get it. Just write it up and I'll just do it and I'll just. I'll label it as that and then that will be it. Just tell me what you want on it and I will show it to you. Before I do that, you know, look, I know that It's a couple weeks out now. But are you, you know, how you feeling about, you know, John Dutton on Yellowstone, Jason? I mean a lot of people are, you know, is he dead? We don't know. I mean, you know, I think we're.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All, you know, it's what our Yellowstone is.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean it looks like he, look, it looks like he killed himself, but I know, I know that John Dutton is not a guy who's going to kill himself.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's not how he's going to go out. I don't know. I'm.

[Paul Scheer]

I hope it's a in the shower thing. Very.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, it's killed Junior.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That would be incredible if this, a new like Dallas esque western soap opera did a full on dream, dream season. That would be awesome.

[Paul Scheer]

I am, I feel so badly for Kevin Costner. I was joking about this the other day because he, look, he took a very big shot and made this, you know, Horizon, this eight hour epic. And God bless like. And you know what, look, I, you know, I think, you know, we should be making big. We should take our shots, we should make our things. I don't know if you're reading the room 100% right by making an 8 hour long epic western, but I will say this. The way in which she left Yellowstone as if buddies, go fuck yourself. I did it. I am going to be on another level. And it's like, it's so crazy to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Me too because it's like unquestionably Yellowstone allows him to make Horizon at this level and on this scale, you know.

[Paul Scheer]

And you leave, it's, you know, not to recall one of our old films. It's the, it's the Jade issue. It's our, oh yeah, our friend from nypd.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's David Caruso. David, he's carusoing this all the way.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean it's. And no one ever learns. Crusoe did get back, he got back on the track but, but man, oh man, did he, did he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But on CSI Miami?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh yeah. I mean that, that is, I mean how many seasons did he do that? I mean I, I think he probably did a bunch. It's. My gosh. Yeah, he must have. I, it's always one of those things that surprises me. Like I remember I was talking to Ted Danson at one point and I knew that Ted Danson was on, was on csi and I, and I was, I said to, I said to June on the way home, I was like, I wonder how many seasons Ted Dance was on csi. I think it was like A season or two. And I googled it and it was like seven years he was on, like, it was like. Let me. I'm gonna double check. He was on. No, 84 episodes. Wow. He went from 2011 to 2015.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So four seasons. Four seasons, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, well, not bad, not bad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Plus damages.

[Paul Scheer]

And I think he did it. And he did a spin off CSI Cyber.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow. I didn't know he was on cyber.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he did csi. I mean, as I'm saying, he does cyber as well. You know, this is, this is. We don't even know what these people are up to. Two seasons of that. Two seasons of Cyber.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's really. That's. I mean, that is the golden age right there when, when a CSI could support two seasons of cyber. Like, that's it. We can't do that anymore.

[Paul Scheer]

Michael Irby is on cyber.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, you got a bunch of vanderbeek Cyber Peter McNichol. Cyber Peter McNichol. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Patricia Arquette Cyber from Ghostbusters.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, this is what we're talking about. I mean, it does seem that Ted comes on in season two of Cyber. So.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, so I'm going to. I'm going to. Since we were talking about things to listen to, I'm going to throw in a new podcast into the mix. One of my favorite long running music podcasts is the great KCRW podcast, Lost Notes.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This new season of Lost Notes is all about groupies. So it's all about the groupies seen in the 60s, late 60s, early 70s LA groupies, like Wild, crazy stories. I'm also at the same time watching the MTV three part documentary about like the 80s hair metal era of the Whiskey and the Sunset Strip.

[Paul Scheer]

That.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So that's. Those two are overlapping quite a bit in kind of just straight insanity. Fantastic.

[Paul Scheer]

I want to call out. Well, you know what? Just because it's a podcast and we could talk about the other part of this podcast in a second. I will say that I have been loving the Penguin on hbo. My friend Amy Nicholson, she hosts the companion podcast to the Penguin show. And wow, it was. It's been a great. Like, I. I've never really done that where I've been able to time up my.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One of my favorites.

[Paul Scheer]

Great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One of my favorites with either. And it's usually either with Chris and Andy on the watch. Oh, right.

[Paul Scheer]

They do a bunch of that. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With Mallory and Mallory and Joanna on House of R. Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson are just the two of the greatest in the bizarre. And then I also will Listen to Joanna Robinson and on the Prestige TV podcast where they've been taught, they've been talking about, you know, so all three of those cover shows that I watch. So I'm watching Slow Horses. So not only. Of course I've. I love. It's one of my favorite shows. But I'm. So then I'm also listening to all of the podcasts that are covering those episodes. Bad Monkey or whatever. Agatha, you know, all of those podcasts will then have watch along or not watch along. Yeah, rather, you know, episodic breakdowns of those episodes.

[Paul Scheer]

I got to get into more of that stuff. All right, well, Jason, this is great talking to you. We will reconvene in just a little bit. All right, I hope you enjoyed that. Just chat. But now it is finally time to announce our next movie. We're going to be going from a shoddy cop story to a body swap. Corey, how do you like that alliteration? Next week we will be doing the 1989 body swap comedy Dream A Little Dream, starring Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Piper Laurie, Meredith Salinger and Jason Robards. Here is a breakdown of the plot. An accident swaps the minds of a married older man and a teenager chasing his dream girl. Yes. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 9% score on the tomatometer. And Roger Ebert from the Chicago Sun Times wrote, the plot is a disorganized mess and the director, Mark Rocco seems unable to tell even this simple minded story with any degree of clarity. Dream A Little Dream is an aggressively unwatchable movie and I have to say, Roger is not wrong. But at the same time, I found it to be interesting. I mean, it's long. It's too long. What? I recommend you watching this maybe on a faster speed. I don't know. You gotta watch a little bit. But now listen to this bizarre trailer for Dream A Little Dream. Now, this trailer lives in my brain because I saw it a bunch as a kid and it really kind of got me by surprise when I actually watched the movie because the trailer does not reveal that this is a body swap movie. So when I was watching this movie, I thought I was gonna see a Corey Corey movie. And no, it's a Corey Robards movie. Anyway, take a listen to the trailer, sir. This is my IOU homework. I owe you homework, sir.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Bobby and Dinger had high school down to a science perfection until Bobby decided to steal Ms. Wright from Mr. Wrong Man.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a party.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who's got the chips now? One false move and their history.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason Robards, Corey Feldman, Piper Laurie, Meredith.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Salinger Harry Dean Stanton, Corey Haim hello honey Dream A Little Dream Radio PG13 starts Friday at a theater near you.

[Paul Scheer]

Dream a Little Dream is available to stream on Amazon prime video, free V2B and the Roku Channel, as well as Plex. In addition, I encourage you to check out Hoopla Canopy and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, tv, music, audiobooks, ebooks and comics for free. All right, that is it for Last looks. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Make sure that you are following us and you have automatic downloads turned on. I'm going to say it again, have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media at hdtgm. And a big thank you to our producers Scott Sani and Molly Reynolds and our movie Picking producer Avril Halle, our Associate producer Jess Cisneros and our engineer Casey Holford. And we'll see you next week for Dream a Little Dream, where we'll be joined by one of our favorites, James Acaster from the Off Menu Podcast and Taskmaster. So you won't want to miss it by for now.

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