Last Looks: Sinbad Of The Seven Seas w/ Jon Gabrus

Summary

Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? – "Last Looks: Sinbad Of The Seven Seas" Featuring Jon Gabris

Introduction & Guest Appearance

In the June 6, 2025 episode of How Did This Get Made? titled "Last Looks: Sinbad Of The Seven Seas," hosts Paul Scheer and Jason Mantzoukas welcome comedian Jon Gabris as their special guest. The trio embarks on an entertaining dissection of the infamous film "Sinbad of the Seven Seas," exploring its myriad flaws and cult status among bad movie enthusiasts.

Deep Dive into "Sinbad of the Seven Seas"

The episode kicks off with Paul Scheer humorously suggesting an alternate tagline for the film: “Sinbad of the Seven Seas, long tails, high sales, and coke nails” (02:05). This playful mockery sets the tone for a thorough analysis of the movie's shortcomings, from its improbable plotlines to its questionable special effects.

Jason Mantzoukas chimes in with exclamations like, “How did this get made?” (02:05), highlighting the collective bafflement shared by fans of the show. The hosts humorously lament the film's narrative choices and character development, painting a vivid picture of why "Sinbad of the Seven Seas" has become a staple in the "so bad it's good" movie category.

Corrections and Omissions from Fans

One of the standout segments features corrections and insights from dedicated listeners who submitted their observations via Discord. Mitch Capa, also known as Chunk Style, points out a directorial nod to the "Hercules" film series: “When the camera is down below him as he is swimming in the open water, we see that this film is lifted straight from Hercules” (06:46). Paul responds with mock astonishment, admitting, “Probably was averting my eyes” (07:26), showcasing the hosts' willingness to engage with and appreciate fan contributions.

Another listener, Katie from Seattle, provides a nuanced correction regarding the inspiration behind Disney's "Aladdin," noting its closer ties to "The Thief of Baghdad" than to the original "Thousand and One Nights" version (08:14). Paul acknowledges her input with gratitude, stating, “We're learning... we could also be learning” (08:50), emphasizing the educational aspect of their discussions.

Katie further elaborates on plot points she felt were overlooked, such as the scene where Sinbad chokes a horse in a gravel pit, adding, “I'm pretty fucking sure they actually buried a horse in gravel” (09:19). Paul humorously reacts, “You can’t have PETA in sight on these films at all” (10:20), blending humor with critique.

Supporting a Cause: Avril Halle's Battle with Cancer

Amidst the humor, the hosts take a heartfelt moment to support Avril Halle, a valued member of their production team battling brain cancer. Paul makes a heartfelt appeal: “We want to send her a lot of love and that's what she wants right now” (07:12). He encourages fans to share fan art and messages of support through various platforms, showcasing the community's solidarity beyond just discussing bad movies.

Deleted Scene: Jessica St. Clair's Hilarious Anecdote

A highlight of the episode is a bonus deleted scene featuring Jessica St. Clair recounting a bizarre encounter with Eddie Murphy involving a butt rash (16:46). The comedic exchange unfolds as Jessica hilariously mixes personal health woes with fictional mishaps involving "fake Eddie Murphy," leading to an uproarious narration that underscores the absurdity the hosts revel in.

Conversation with Jon Gabris: Summer Movies and Beyond

In a candid conversation with Jon Gabris, the hosts transition from deconstructing "Sinbad" to discussing broader topics, primarily focusing on summer movie releases. Jon introduces his new podcast, Staying Alive with Adam Pally, a health and wellness show targeting mental and physical well-being through engaging conversations with experts (23:40). Paul praises Jon’s work, saying, “It's such a fun podcast” (28:34), while Jason elaborates on the show's appeal, highlighting its organic approach to discussing health without being prescriptive (27:21).

The discussion then shifts to ongoing summer movies. Paul and Jason express excitement for upcoming releases like "Naked Gun," "Friendship," and "Weapons," sharing their anticipations and reservations. Notable mentions include:

• Naked Gun: Paul shares his enthusiasm after watching a sneak peek, “I laughed, like genuinely hard laughs throughout” (29:02), praising its alignment with the original’s comedic style.

• Friendship: Jason lauds the film, mentioning, “People are so primed to laugh at Tim... It’s a really beautiful score” (30:08), while Paul emphasizes his desire to experience the movie in a lively theater setting.

• Superman and Fantastic Four: Both hosts discuss their mixed feelings about these reboots. Paul is cautiously optimistic about the new "Superman" film under James Gunn’s direction, appreciating his track record while expressing uncertainty about character inclusions (37:00). Jason compares it to the "John Wick" series, highlighting his excitement for fresh takes on classic characters.

• Thunderbolts and Fast X: The duo also touches on Marvel’s "Thunderbolts," appreciating Florence Pugh's performance, and debates the likelihood of "Fast X Part 2," citing Vin Diesel’s relentless promotion as both hopeful and exasperating (47:00).

Fan Engagement and Community Highlights

Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize their interactive relationship with listeners. They encourage submissions of taglines, corrections, and creative contributions through their Discord and website, fostering a vibrant community. Highlights include:

• Nikki the Gnome's Insight: Offering a historical perspective on Italian cinema and its influence on "Sinbad of the Seven Seas," Nikki adds depth to the hosts’ analysis (10:00).

• Final Fan Opinions: In the outro, snippets from fans like Katie and Dan provide a humorous counterpoint to the episode's critiques, culminating in a comedic endorsement of the film despite its faults (59:28).

Upcoming Episodes & Announcements

As the episode wraps up, Paul announces the next installment will focus on the 2004 dance film "You Got Served," hyping its inclusion despite its low critical reception: “Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a 14% on Tomatometer... but let's take a listen to the trailer” (56:55). This teaser promises another round of humorous deconstruction and celebration of a less-than-stellar film.

Conclusion

"Last Looks: Sinbad Of The Seven Seas" is a quintessential How Did This Get Made? episode, blending sharp wit, community engagement, and insightful (albeit humorous) critiques. By navigating through fan submissions, personal anecdotes, and animated discussions with Jon Gabris, Paul, and Jason create an episode that not only ridicules a gloriously bad movie but also celebrates the joy of shared laughter and communal support.

Notable Quotes:

• Paul Scheer: “We watch these bad movies so you don’t have to!” (00:54)
• Jason Mantzoukas: “How did this get made?” (02:05)
• Katie from Seattle: “The Disney movie is much more inspired by the Thief of Baghdad.” (08:14)
• Jessica St. Clair: “Eddie Murphy has somebody. I call him fake Eddie Murphy.” (16:46)
• Jon Gabris: “Staying Alive with Adam Pally is a health and wellness podcast hosted by the physically unhealthy and the mentally unwell.” (27:21)

This episode serves as a testament to How Did This Get Made?'s ability to turn cinematic disasters into sources of laughter, learning, and community spirit.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

For each other isn't new or groundbreaking. It's human. Ameca.

[John Gabris]

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[Paul Scheer]

Sinclair's got a butt rash. Gabris wants to know what's up with Superman. And we get schooled about Italians and cinema. On today's Last Looks, hit the theme. Last Looks, motherfucker.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Fighting now.

[Paul Scheer]

Last Looks. Jason's Kuma tape House. Last Looks, motherfucker.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How did this get made?

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Last Looks, motherfucker. Joyful Trauma House.

[Paul Scheer]

Mother.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason sick is probably out.

[Paul Scheer]

How did this get made? Wow. Hello, people of Earth. And hello, all my poochies. It's me, Paul Scheer, and welcome to how did this Get Made? Last Looks. Here's the deal. Yes, we all know this is the episode where you, the audience, get to voice your opinions about Sinbad and. And the Seven Seas. But did you also know that this is an episode where I'm going to talk to John Gabris about summer movies. And I've seen a couple ones that aren't even out yet. I'm going to give you the Inside Scoop Jessica St. Clair talks about her butt rash and how that relates to Eddie Murphy in a deleted scene. That will be coming up in just a little bit. Plus, we didn't have time for all the great songs in the live show at Boise. We're going to play you an extra special one in just a little bit. But. But first and foremost, let me tell you this. Sinbad of the Seven Seas probably should have had the tagline sinbad of the Seven Seas, long tails, high sales and coke nails. And how do I know that? Because Frosted Jafar came up with that tagline. And if you have a tagline like Frosted Jafar did, and it's funny, we'll put it here on the show. You just submit it to our Discord. Discord, gg, hdtgm and I might read it. Okay, people, big episode coming up. Let's break it all down. But first, let's give a big shout out to Latex Drool for that incredible Last Looks opening theme. Now, you know I love these songs. They're great. I want more of them. I want to meet more Latex Drools. So what do you do? Well, you just hit us up on our website. You go right to our website and there's a little area called Submit a song. You just click that and you go there. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now here's what I need to tell y' all. Our dear Avril Halle has been going through a battle with cancer and she recently received some very intense treatment for brain cancer. And we are here to support her. We want to send her a lot of love and that's what she wants right now as well. You can tag Movie Bitches or just DM Movie Bitches wherever you are on social media, whether it's YouTube or Instagram, and she will get them. You can also go to our Discord, where we have a mailing address for Avril. Or you could just email Andrew V. Xyz. She's not asking for anything more than fan art, love, good wishes, anything at all to keep her spirits up. We love Avril so much. She's such an integral part of our show. We just want to continue to keep. Keep those good wishes, those good spirits flowing towards her. So get better soon. Avril, we're thinking about you every single day. We're going to be in Vancouver in July, so I want to make sure that you get your tickets for our Vancouver show. Tickets are on sale now. Just go to hdtgm.com now. I know a lot of people have been asking about this. I ran out of books at the last couple of shows. My paperback is out. It has 20 extra pages. I created a brand new part of my website that has videos from ucb, things that people have never seen before, pictures from my childhood. It's kind of like the show and tell version of my book. It's like if I was Will Smith, my book would have had all that stuff in it. But it's apparently very expensive to produce a book with a lot of pictures in it. So I opted to go the other route, which is to just do it all on my own time on a Squarespace website. That's not an ad. I just did it that way. Jason is on Taskmaster. You can watch it every single week on YouTube or on the the Taskmaster app. Now, people. When we were in Boise, we. We really battled. We battled with an audience that was coming to play a game that we were not totally on board with. We didn't know what that game was. We edited down some of our. Our audience Q&As because they were really just statements and not even about the movie. We love Boise and the people that came to play were great. But you know what? We. We need to interrogate this movie a little bit more. So now it is time for Corrections and Omissions. Sin Matt sailed the seven seas, but the real hero is little Poochie. Corrections and omissions. Thank you, Frosted Nebula for that. Amazing. Corrections and Omissions. Another brand new band. Could it be that we are now letting you submit just via the website? Ah, I think this is great. I love it all. Let's go to the discord. Mitch Capa, AKA Chunk style, writes like Jason. The Lou Ferrigno Hercules movie was big in my childhood. So I noticed immediately that there was a shot in this movie that was lifted straight from Hercules. Ooh, drama. When the camera is down below him as he is swimming in the open water, we see that this film is lifted straight from Hercules. The dead giveaway is when you look closely at Lou Ferrigno, he has a beard. Well, that is a pretty. Pretty big shocking omission. Thank you, Mitch. I did not notice that. Probably was averting my eyes. I can't take a swimming scene. Danny the Wall writes. The crew seem fascinated with the wizard Nadir and his gibberish and wondered if they missed out on the connection to the Italian theater tradition of Commedia dell' arte. Yes, the art goes back to the 1500s and Renaissance time when Italian theater relied on stock characters with who we still recognize today. Speaking in gibberish is a key feature of Commedia dell' Arte, which relies on pantomime and physical comedy. Nadir's actor was Leo Guletta, who seems to have had quite the career in Italian comedy and surely seems to be drawing on these traditions. Okay, thanks, Danny. These comments are reminding me of why I was afraid of the Boise audience. All right, let's go to the phones. Hi, Paul.

[Katie]

I'm just going about the most recent episode, the Sinbad episode. You mentioned both Aladdin and the Thief of Baghdad, which I thought was kind of funny, because, actually, I'm pretty sure that Aladdin is inspired more by the Thief of Baghdad than it ever is by the Thousand and One Nights version of Aladdin. For one thing, the Thousand and One Nights version of Aladdin starts with, Aladdin was a young Chinese boy. So the Disney movie is much more inspired by the Thief of Baghdad. Things such as a character named Jafar, a character named Abu, things like that. So, yeah, thought the connection was funny. Thought I'd mention it.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, I like it. I have nothing to add to it, but thank you for that correction. We're learning. I mean, you know what? Sometimes these aren't always about technical gaffes. These are just about taking a moment to better ourselves. Yes, we watch bad movies, but we could also be learning. So now take that nameless person's information and do with it what you will. All right, next up on the phone. Let's go.

[Katie]

Hi, Paul. It's Katie from Seattle. But I think anyone listening to this probably knows me better as Jafar from the Boise audience. I have a correction and an omission for you. My correction. A little while after I asked the agent's question, what 82 audience member Mark asked about Nadir threatening to have Jafar's magician accreditation revoked. With you, Jason, and Jessica all asking, accreditation from whom? Well, I think the answer is pretty obvious. That has to be the function of the Baghdad fraternity. But that brings up even more questions because apparently evil sorcerers are jumping through bureaucratic hoops and, like, paying dues to keep their accreditation active. That doesn't make much sense. As for the omission, I seriously can't believe we didn't talk about the horse coming out of the gravel pit and then getting choked out by Sinbad a few minutes later. My note for that part said, I'm glad June wasn't here, because I'm pretty fucking sure they actually buried a horse in gravel. Anyway, thanks again for a great time in Boise. I can't wait to Hear the Seattle episode. And you know what? I'll see you guys in Vancouver. Take care.

[Paul Scheer]

Bye, Katie. Killer question, but killer costumes. This person came dressed up at our shows, two of our shows on the road, and now threatens, but I mean in a nice way to be there. Once again, a reminder to everybody, please wear your costumes when you come out to the show. It makes it so much fun for us. And you bet your ass they buried a horse and gravel. Okay. No PETA in sight on these films at all. I do appreciate you breaking down some of the magician accreditation on this. I do want to get more into that. That should be a spec script that I'm writing. I'm just part of, like, the magician. Like, I'm like, next to the Ministry of Magic, I'm doing a lot of like, oh, well, I got. Got this accreditation. Oh, well, they got a summer. They did some summer credits. I love just the put upon accreditation of magic school again. I will be in the HBO Max spin off, I bet. But then I'll get it and I'll feel really conflicted because I'm like, oh, jk, I can't really support her point of view. And then I have to make a statement about it, but then I'm going to feel really conflicted. And the people in my life are like, what are you doing? I'm like, all right, I won't do it. I won't be the accredited magician character in the brand new Harry Potter series, even though I feel like it was a role built for me. Oh, man. And I said no to Devil Wears product too. At this point, I'm really just spiraling. Yeah, I will be playing the Meryl Streep character in Devilware's product too. Anyway, what do we got next? Oh, my gosh. Carrie the librarian.

[Katie]

Hey, guys, it's Carrie the librarian. I am calling regarding your question about volcanoes, lava and magma. So you were wondering if lava exists independent of volcanoes. And it does. It can come through cracks and fissures both on land and underwater. The ones underwater are what cause tectonic plate shifting. The lava comes out and pushes the plates away from each other. Pretty cool. Regarding magma, however, interestingly, lava and magma have a very, very minor definitional difference. They are both molten rock. However, a volcano has magma inside of it, but once it erupts out of it, it is spewing lava underground magma, overground lava. Have a great day.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the kind of knowledge that I need. It's like stalactites and stalagmites, which I don't actually remember now, but I get this from Carrie. Carrie the librarian. Way to go. Just another reminder to get our great library shirt from this show. You just go and get it in our merch store. I love it. The Sucre and Poochie shirt, which is one of my favorite shirts that we have made this entire tour. All right, let's go back to the discord. Nikki the Gnome. This is going to go beyond what this film is about. But Italian cinema is fascinating and there's so much gold for a show like how did this get made to mine from it? In the post war period in Italy, wages grew by 50%. During this period, only a few Italian households had TVs, something like 20%. And that changed by the 80s and that number jumped to 80%. So that's why there are so many films being produced. When you have a relatively young population with money to burn and only a few places to spend it for entertainment, they invariably had to the theaters which were more ubiquitous. Sinbad being filmed at 82 was chasing the second wave of pepla films coming from America, namely Conan. Clash of the Titans. It's coming out in the 80s. It must have just been bizarre since it was already out of vogue as a genre piece in the States. Well, look again. Nikki the Gnome. Just dropping knowledge. We're learning. We're learning in this episode. And that's not a bad thing. Put us in the educational podcast category for this last looks. Okay. The angriest Hikey writes. Paul asked if Sinbad existed in a post Old Testament world. Yes. The original 1001 Nights, which we understand there's an issue with, were compiled during the Islamic golden age. Though there are elements that go back to ancient Sanskrit fables. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Sometimes this is what happens. And this is kind of the Boise effect on this show. Different than what we were expecting. Not bad different. Learned a lot. And you know what? Let's just thank everybody for that and. And let's end our learning by looking at some actors. They're gonna round it out here because Ryan says has been keeping some. How did this get made? Stats. And he wants you to know Lou Frigno has been on the show three times. Sharknado 3. Hercules and Sinbad of the Seven Seas. Luigi Cozy, the director. Three appearances. Hercules and Star Crash and Sinbad. Well, there we go. Not that much. Not numbers really worth sharing. But why am I keeping it? I don't know. Because now I'm on this page. I don't. I don't know. I'm not going to say so many great corrections, omissions this week. I mean, there were some interesting ones, but, like, yeah, we could also have a little spin on it. I mean, I'm learning. I feel good. I feel good about where I am, but maybe I don't feel that good. I don't know. I don't know where I'm at. I don't know where I'm at with this, with how I felt. You know what? I'm going to say this Katie from Seattle, who came in costume, you're the winner. Because you brought up something that no one talked about. That. Yes, they buried a horse in gravel. And I haven't thought about that. And that made me think of it a little bit differently. So, Katie from Seattle, you are our winner. John, astonish. And Trey, give her what she deserves, which is a song. And that's it. Nothing more than this song. Hit it. You win, you win. Okay. As always, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord gg hgtgm. Or call us at 619p a u l a s k. Coming up after the break, John Gabris will stop by to chat about summer movies. But first, let's take a listen to the bonus deleted scene. Oh, this is a good one from our Sinbad of the Seven Seas episode where we talk about Jessica's experience with Eddie Murphy and her butt rash. Yep, you heard me right. Take a listen to this deleted scene.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Can I just tell one story about Eddie Murphy?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, sure.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Eddie Murphy has somebody.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, wait a second. Before you say that, this is. We're cutting this out. Yeah, cut this out.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You don't have to. I put it in a book, all right? I put it in the book. The artist, small talk. Eddie Murphy has a man that travels with him. You know, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That I call fake Eddie Murphy. He looks exactly like Eddie Murphy. And he does his. A lot of his.

[Paul Scheer]

I call him.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay, but he looks exactly like Eddie Murphy.

[Paul Scheer]

He. I was on a line to get food, and I was like, this is so cool. Eddie Murphy's getting, like, food with the rest of the cast. Nope, it was Eddie Murphy I'm doing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I did a scene. I think I'm with real Eddie Murphy. I look to the shadows. There's fake Eddie. No, I'm with fake Eddie Murphy. I see the real Eddie Murphy peeking out, watching. He doesn't come on until time anyway.

[Paul Scheer]

But can you tell the reveal of.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That story when I was talking about my vagina and. Okay, so then. So.

[Paul Scheer]

And I love that Paul knew it. Paul knew. Paul knew that set up the vagina story. And we're all grateful, aren't we, Boise? Anyway.

[Jessica St. Clair]

So I get into the van to go back. Now, Eddie Murphy has his own, like, double decker trailer. He would not be in the van with you. But, you know, I thought so. There's fake Eddie Murphy, I think, in the passenger seat. And I get a call from my gynecologist. I'd had a rash that had been resistant to several creams, and I was awaiting the results of what kind of microbe was growing in between my ass cheeks. So she's delivering me this information. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Is this part of the book? Yes. This is the truth of life.

[Jessica St. Clair]

So I go, well, it's good to know what's in my asshole, but is that cream gonna work? Well, we get out.

[Paul Scheer]

So you took a call. You took the call in the van. You took a call thinking it was Eddie Murphy's van full of other people.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I wasn't gonna get the doctor again for another couple days.

[Paul Scheer]

You took a call in a packed van about your crash.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Things were so bad. Anyway, we get out of the car, and then we get onto set and I realized it was real Eddie Murphy. The whole time in that car, we.

[Paul Scheer]

Heard you talk about the ass rash that Lou Ferrigno gave you.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I wish.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Anyway, get back to the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

I can't wait until Eddie Murphy's on this show and he tells the same story from the other side. And then we're like, we know her. He's like, is she okay? I will say this because you wear.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Your yoga pants too long. That's it.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's a cautionary tip.

[Paul Scheer]

You should. That. That's an easy. That's an easy one. You should be able to avoid. You.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Now I know. Now I know. Anyway, moving on, Boise. That's just Eddie Murphy's story for you. Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Can I say one thing?

[Paul Scheer]

Say whatever. Please. You.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Please, can I say one thing?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're the one talking.

[Paul Scheer]

You're asking yourself if you can say one thing because you've only interrupted yourself by. By the time we get to Portland, Paul and I won't even be on stage. It's good. It's just St. Clair for four hours.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Like. Like a one woman show at the Lane.

[Paul Scheer]

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[John Gabris]

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[Paul Scheer]

Welcome back. By now I'm sure you've noticed that every week we re release old how did this get made Episodes back into our feed. These matinee episodes come out every Tuesday. This week's matinee was Hercules in New York with Abbi Jacobson. Next week's will be a Jean Claude Van Damme classic Bloodsport with Nicole Byer. So keep on checking out all of our replays every Tuesday and Without any further ado, let's talk to our friend, our good buddy, John Gabris, who recently joined me on Unspooled with the Action Boys to Talk about John Wick 4. Suffice to say, they do not like it. It's a fun episode. If you've not listened to Unspooled in a while, check that out. But he is here talking about his brand new podcast, Staying Alive with Adam Pally, which is a new Must subscribe, must listen, must follow and but Gabris, a legend. High and mighty, amazing show. Gino Lombardo, fantastic. We've worked together for many years, and there's one thing that Gabris and I love, summer movies. And we're going to talk about all of that. And I've seen a couple ones that John didn't know I saw and that I'm revealing for the very first time here. So enjoy it. Jason and Paul, just chat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June and Paul, just chat. Tall John Shear, just chat.

[Paul Scheer]

How did this get made? Last looks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just chat.

[Paul Scheer]

John, last time we saw you, you were eating a live spider on stage at Largo during the Torque episode.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I forgot. A spider dropped down from the ceiling and June and I made eye contact that we both saw it. And for some reason, my impetus was to stand up and bite it out of the sky hands free.

[Paul Scheer]

It was very much like an 80s movie moment. Like, I felt like it was like, it was like, oh, man, this guy eats live spiders. It was probably the most exciting thing that happens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I tell people watching Torque, it's certainly more exciting than watching Torque.

[Paul Scheer]

I was telling people all the time, I'm like, you don't have to take out your phones during live shows. Nothing is gonna happen. But then I forget that that did happen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Something can happen.

[Paul Scheer]

You and I just spent a long time last week talking about John Wick 4 on Unspooled, which is the podcast we don't talk about on how did this get made? But it just gave me a greater appreciation of all the things that I love about Action Boys, which is one. You have a podcast empire and one of your podcasts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, I learned from the best. You know, I learned from my fellow 131 Long Islanders. I'm just. I'm just jumping in the, you know, standing on the shoulders of, well, they're not giants. They're smaller than me, but they're there.

[Paul Scheer]

Paul Scheer, it's such a blast to hear you guys talk. I was putting a piece of Action Boys into the Unspooled newsletter of you guys breaking down Clubber Lang's apartment from Rocky, because he mentioned it, and I was like, I gotta find that. And it was just. Just Clubber Lang dealing with bad roommates, trying to bring a woman over there to have sex with. It's one of the best parts of. Of the Action boys. Just the. The tangents and stuff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. And it's always fun to talk to you about movies and then, you know, John Wick 4. And in classic movie head fashion, we talk about it on your podcast, the one that Voldemort won't be named, but we then text about it after. Like, text. Like, it just. It's just not enough. The two hours that you edit down that you have to edit and get taken care of, it's still not enough. We still have to text. Like, wait, I just saw this new Tom Cruise clip. Or John Wick talking about, blah, blah, blah.

[Paul Scheer]

I literally was going to send you all, like, I wanted to get you all a text message. I was like, we've just talked about this for two hours.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I can't do it.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's always a blast. And I got to tell you, your new podcast, Staying Alive, has been. I just love it. My rotation now it's you and Pally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hell yeah. One of our most recent episodes is the wonderful Paul Scheer as a guest, which is super.

[Paul Scheer]

I love that guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm a big fan.

[Paul Scheer]

But no, it's such a fun podcast. Let people know what it's about instead of me pitching it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But it's a health and wellness podcast hosted by the physically unhealthy and the mentally unwell of me and Adam Pally, two guys who are on a journey to try to live longer and undo some damage we've done in the past. And we thought, what better way than to monetize it by talking to, like, both health and fitness experts. Another thing that people don't talk about is, like, once you're in your, like, mid-30s, all of your conversations, even with comedians, is about, like, oh, yeah, I'm doing Taebo at home. Or like, oh, do you not do hot yoga? Oh, shit, I hike three times. Because we just eventually get into this. Like, I'm an Asahi bowl guy now, you know, like, everyone gets into these things. So we realize it's like. Like, we should have these conversations with all of our friends who are smart, interesting, funny people who are also pursuing health and wellness because we're all growing up. We haven't had any young people on the pod on purpose.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I Think it's interesting because you're always struggling to figure out what can you do. There's this whole idea of biohacking the guy who's aging at one third the rate of everybody else. And it gets mentally overwhelming because you're like, I'll do that. I'll sleep in cold sheets. I'll go over here and. And I think the thing that I love about your show is it's not, like, prescriptive. Like, you're not trying to be gurus. You're just talking about things. And hopefully at the end of it, with a mix of people, like, what was that guy that you had on? Like, was it doctor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Dr. Radowitz. Yeah, the. The ketamine therapist. Yeah. Like, yeah, we're not saying, like, you should do this therapy, but we are learning more about it. And me and Adam left wanting to do that therapy. I mean, probably just wanting to do ketamine, but, yeah, the therapy.

[Paul Scheer]

Why not?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Throw that on top. Why not?

[Paul Scheer]

But, I mean, you are talking to, like. Yeah, I think that's the fun of the shows. Like, you're talking to, like, you know, somebody who works this week's episode.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Is an NIH immunologist. And she was. We end up talking to her for way too long about Omakase. Like, that's how stupid our show is.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I am a fan and produced by former how did this get made? Producer Devin Bryant, who we love. Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We got Devin in the. That's why our theme song rips so hard. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

One of the greats. Made many. How did this get made? Theme song as well. It's summer, and I'm excited about these movies that are coming out, bro.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Me too. It feels like we turned a corner after the last couple of months.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I know, I know. And I was talking about this. I don't know if you and I talked about this yet, but I got to see Naked Gun, which comes out in August.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Awesome.

[Paul Scheer]

I saw a sneak peek of it. It's great. It's really funny.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I trust the people who made it their buds. And it's like, it seems the trailer that's playing before I saw it on imax, the trailer on IMAX before Final Reckoning, and the crowd went apeshit for it.

[Paul Scheer]

It really captures to me the jokey style of Naked Gun, which I haven't seen in a movie in such a long time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

And then it also has not those style jokes as well. It kind of balances both, but it feels like a true sequel, which I think is the Hardest thing, thing to do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I'm so intrigued. I can't fucking wait to see it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I think you're gonna really. You're really like it. And I. And I went in there knowing I like all the people involved, but I laughed, like genuinely hard laughs throughout. So that's coming out August 1st. I'm excited about that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm excited about that. Have you seen. Speaking of hard laughs in the theater, have you seen Friendship?

[Paul Scheer]

This is the movie that I've been dying to see and I can't. I. I'm a father of two and I'm currently single parenting because my wife is away shooting the Elle woods prequel or pokel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. And so I want to go see it, but I want to see it at night when there'll be up in theater. I don't want to see it during the day. I've had a few moments where I go, oh, should I go see it? I can go see an action movie during the day. It would be fine. It's fun. But I want to see that with people around me laughing because I've only heard it's the best way to be seen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's such a funny fucking movie. Movie. Tim. People are so primed to laugh at Tim, which is because he's a brilliant genius. But. But I think you should leave his pierced pop culture so hard that people are showing up that the. The first time we see his face on camera in the movie, the whole theater I was in started laughing. Like they were just so fucking excited. I went on like a random Tuesday night at like 9 o' clock and it was full at Century City. And dude, the movie is funny. It carries Conor o' Malley's great in it. Tim is amazing in it. Kate Mara is great. And it's. It's a real treat. It's. It's beautiful. And the sound and the score is awesome too. Like Andrew DeYoung. I don't know, I don't know him, but he's like in the comedy world. It's fucking gorgeous. Like it's crazy. Comedies don't look like that. And then it, it's. It's so joke heavy and character based jokes on like Tim's interesting character, Craig. It's so fucking good.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm so excited that somebody was telling me this story and I'm gonna maybe mess up the anecdote. But it was basically like that score is from an album called like Cocktail Music and it was a Japanese album. It was like it was for people in Japan to put on when they had cocktail parties like that. Is that something.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I think the anecdote. And maybe we both heard this from Ben Rogers, because this is who I heard it from.

[Paul Scheer]

It is. Yes. That's who I heard it from.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, whatever the artist's name is. It's like Yoshimori. This makes me sound racist. Is trying to guess it, so I'm not going to do that. But it's. It's given as a housewarming gift traditionally in Japan, the album. And I've been listening to the artist, like, non stop, and it's very, like, ambient Japanese kind of electro pop, and it's really great. And that's this. That chunks of that is used from the score, according to Rogers.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm quoting him.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I mean, we're quoting. We're. We're both quoting the same.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're on, like, a design and both of us have different interpretations, and we don't even know if he's right.

[Paul Scheer]

But you know what? All I know is that. That Ben bought that album after. Now, I will say, there's so much good stuff coming up over the. My friend is a producer, and he made how to Train youn Dragon. And I saw an early cut of it before the effects were done. And I gotta say, that also was very, very good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm excited for that. I like the first one. I like the animated one. My only complaint, and you could take this out, depending on how your friend feels about it, is I, if you're calling it live action, give me a puppet, Toothless. I'm sorry. Like, I don't think I hear what you're saying. Like, I say go fully, and, like, maybe it doesn't look as great as you think it does, but I think if you're calling it live action, and that's my whole complaint with all the Disney live action, where it's like, if you have a digital lion, it just looks more realistic than the Mufasa drawing. That doesn't count as live action. You know, that's my only issue.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, no, you know, I have that same issue. I think that you could never ride the dragon, no matter what. Like, unless you're doing it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, we're talking fucking fishing lines, models. We can figure it out.

[Paul Scheer]

I was gonna say, you're gonna do it like Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind. Like that. What's his name? Oh, no, no. What's. No, wait.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Michel Gondry.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. If you do it the Gondry way. Like, I would like to see the Gondry Version of how to train your dragon. And I think it would be kind of cool. Like, you have. Yeah, you could do all puppetry. It would be great. But I will say that seeing it regular draw Butlers in it, I mean.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I fucking love Gerard. You know how much I love Gerard Butler. I know how much you do. I'm so fucking excited.

[Paul Scheer]

What else is jumping out to you? I'll say that fire and ash.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, of course, I'm not even sure that might not even be till, like, the winter. I'm not even sure when it comes out, but it's. Yeah. I don't know what exact the release date is, but that's the next thing I'm super hyped about. Looks like it's not till December. It's our Christmas movie, so.

[Paul Scheer]

But, you know, we can get excited for Christmas as well. I'll tell you that. The things that are, like, on my radar, F1. I have no interest in that style of racing. But that trailer I was like, sold. I'm in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's funny that you haven't gotten caught up in Formula one just based on, like, how, like, polymathic your tastes are. That and. And how many of our friends are really into Formula one. Like, so many mutuals are so into it. Not at all. But I am very into Brad Pitt, so I. And what's the guy's name who directed Top Gun or.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah, it's Kaminsky.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's Joseph Kaminsky. It's so good. It's. I like his style. I love Brad Pitt. So I'll be hyped for F1.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, did you see Thunderbolts? Mm, I thought that was really good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought it was. It was a better than I thought it was gonna be.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it. Not that we're supposed to be comparing these movies, but so much better than the Harrison Ford President Hulk. That was a rough. That. That one I went to, like, going, like, not expecting much. And it.

[Paul Scheer]

It.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It landed around there. I thought Mac. I thought Mackie did a. Okay job. I. He wasn't like. His acting wasn't the problem. I just didn't care about the story or anything like that. Yeah, it felt like, weird, but on Thunderbolts, I was. Yeah, I felt weirdly rushed. All the Giancarlo Esposito stuff felt like it was shot, like, on an iPhone on another.

[Paul Scheer]

Which was the case. Like, he was not in the movie until the reshoots. Like. And it's like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a great moment where he's like. He's like, let me go talk to him alone. It's like, wait, why? He's a bad guy. Oh, okay. I guess because you. We can't get everyone back for reshoots. But I really enjoyed Thunderbolts. I thought that all those characters were really fun. I liked the idea that, like, none of them could fly or had, like, really interesting powers. You know what I mean? Like, it made it. It made it for, like, a fun. And it's true. Like, you kind of run out of, like, how do we end these in the third act? And I think, like, making it like a weird, emotional escape room. Kind of like it. I don't know if it's my favorite ending, but it. It's just made it feel different than everything else we've been watching for a couple years.

[Paul Scheer]

What it felt like to me was the way a comic book might be, because it's a very, like. Like, it's a. It's a little heady. Yeah. Yeah. You could.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You could see, like, the panels going, like, meanwhile, and it's like Red Guardian dealing with his nightmare world or whatever.

[Paul Scheer]

So I just love that someone said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have this take place in a emotional escape room in your mind. It's like, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great.

[Paul Scheer]

And it's like. And it was. And it got to the point of what you want, which is, I think, honestly, like, just connections among these people. It's not like just beating the shit out of an alien. Like, you know, it's like, which we know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Florence Pugh. I'm not saying anything. No one doesn't know she's a fudgeing movie.

[Paul Scheer]

I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She is so hot. She's so talented. She's funny. She moves well. In the action sequences, it is just like. I'm not saying anything, but she's something special. Like, that's not new. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I can't get over it. I can't get over it. I'm excited about it. Like, I was like, I didn't like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Black Widow at all. And I thought her and harbor were so good in Thunderbolt.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like they got a second chance to do something. And also talking about, like, who Wasn't that. That Brave New World when they brought back Bucky? I was like, oh, what a bummer of a cameo that he has. And then in this, I'm like, this is what? This is it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's great in this. Yeah, he's great in this. It's such a f. Like, it.

[Paul Scheer]

It.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The cast is fucking awesome. Pullman's son Is whatever. Yeah. As Sentry.

[Paul Scheer]

Now, Superman is the one that I feel like is the biggest question mark for me, because I've seen a lot of trailers with a dog, and I'm like, that doesn't seem like it's what I want to see. I have a lot of faith in James Gunn. James Gunn taking a little bit of flack recently because I guess they found some Facebook posts where he was shitting on Nolan Batman movies saying, these are not good Batman movies. So he definitely has an uphill battle. He's got to save this entire, like, the DC universe on the back of Superman.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know, but I will say I liked Peacemaker. I liked his Suicide Squad.

[Paul Scheer]

I think he's got a track record that works.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say this. I. I will be glad that the weekend that Superman's coming out, I will be there opening weekend, and will be happy to see a big movie that isn't Star wars or Marvel. Now, I know it's also a comic book movie, but just the fact that it just feels like I'm watching at least, like, the first one of that. You know what I mean? Like, so I'm looking very forward to sitting down and just even, like, in the trailer, seeing the Fortress of Solitude, like, snow stuff. You're like, this already just looks different than other stuff. I'm so stoked to go check.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm always a fan of his stuff, and I think I'm better being a fan when I'm like, I don't know what to expect of it. I feel like that's how I feel about every one of his films. I'm like, all right, we'll see Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I was like, oh, whoa, okay. This is different than I thought. And same thing for Peacemaker. I've liked everything, but I always go in going, I don't know. I don't know. And I think that's a good way to go in. Instead of expectation super high, know it's gonna be the best, you know? And I'm like. Cause he kind of hits you from the side. And I feel like he's gotta, for this movie, deliver trailers and a tone that does not show you much of anything. It's almost like, come on in. Trust me, by the end of the meal, you're going to leave feeling like, that was a great meal. But I can't tell you too much of what we're serving before. Before you're sitting down and ordering.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I kind of like to just show up hungry and go, like, I'm going to Be happy with whatever I get. But I'm. I'm excited to be surprised.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel that way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm more like. I'm. I love the John Wick movies, but I'm. And I'm more excited for Superman than I am for Ballerina. You know what I mean? I just. Because Ballerina. Ballerina seems like more of the same, and not in a bad way. Give me more of my favorite food, I don't care. But Superman just looks like it's going to be something a little different.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm curious about ballerina. I'm coming into Ballerina with an expectation that may be fake. First of all, I realized for a very long time, I was thinking that this is a continuation of a character that was introduced in John Wick. And I realized, no, that is her character in James Bond that I'm thinking of. Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And she's awesome.

[Paul Scheer]

Great. And I was very excited about that. And I was like, oh, okay, so this is something different. And then knowing it's a ballerina, I'm like, thinking about Scarlett Johansson and her whole kind of like, in that society of like, you know, And I'm like, so I am. Look, those guys make great action movies. I think that we know that you could do great action. I just don't. I have not yet felt the need to go see it. Besides, I guess maybe seeing a little bit more of John Wick and Lance Reddick, who is back in this because he shot it before.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Back from the Dead.

[Paul Scheer]

And then I'm like, well, this is crazy. They shot this before John wick. John Wick 4. Or like. Or that seems crazy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or at least it takes place before.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, but John. But like, Lance Reddick shot his scenes at the same time he was shooting John Wick 4. And John Wick 4 feels old.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Came out a year ago. A year and a half ago, easily.

[Paul Scheer]

So I'm interested. What about Fantastic Four again, question mark? I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I give it the same thing I give Superman. I appreciate that it looks different. I have less confidence in this than I do in Superman. But I will be seated because I love cousin Eben Moss. Pop Rock. I think he's so good in everything. And like Pedro Pascal, obviously, and Vanessa Kirby. Vanessa Kirby, I love her.

[Paul Scheer]

I was talking about Vanessa Kirby. I think one of the most underrated performances, like. And you're never gonna give it an award, but in Mission Impossible 7, when they're on the train and she is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In the acting as. As Grace, I'm like, this is truly.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, One of those times where I'm like, oh, that's Haley Atwell being. It worked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You believe the mask stuff?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I'm excited. I'm excited about Fantastic Four. I like the fact that it like looks a little different.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And this is. Here's another movie that I'm like, we'll wait and see Happy Gilmore 2. I'm just really. I want it to. I trust new A check so much. I love Sandler's straight to Netflix stuff isn't going straight to Netflix because it's not funny like his other shit.

[Paul Scheer]

No. It's only thing that. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Love the wrong Missy. It's like I don't care about comedy sequels but. But Sandler has a higher hit rate than almost anyone else that in the comedy world that I would.

[Paul Scheer]

My kids fans are so pumped about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's good. That's cool. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I went to a taping of one of Sandler's the Last Netflix special. And I was up in the green room and I was talking to Tim Hurley who wrote it and he got me excited for it. Like, I was like, oh, okay. Like, it doesn't feel like they have to make this movie in any way. Right. It's like, it's not a desperation attempt. I feel like there's something real there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not a cash in. We know Sandler doesn't need like a random paycheck.

[Paul Scheer]

It's not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's no desperation there.

[Paul Scheer]

This is what I will say that I heard that I think is a good sign. Someone saw a test of it that was over two hours and they were like, it's really funny and it's really good. The hardest thing is going to be what do they keep in and what do they take out. So if you're watching Happy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I like that inside scoop.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. If you're watching Happy Gilmore at two and a half hours and feeling like, oh, it's really good. It's like, I wonder what it will be because it will never be. It will be a 90 minute movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, yeah, yeah. It'll be a hundred minutes on Netflix.

[Paul Scheer]

Like that to me makes me go good. Like, like you get worried because we've both been to screenings and tests and you hear like stuff like, they're gonna find.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You get caught up. You get caught up in the house too. Like, you know, like you see a premiere of a movie and everyone who's worked on it is there and it's like electric and you're a little buzzed and you're like. And then when you like like recommended to friends. You're like, okay, yeah. I was like, I saw it in the best way you could possibly.

[Paul Scheer]

This is the thing that bums me out about Happy Gilmore, too, which is like, I'm not gonna get to see this in a theater. All I want to do is see this movie in a theater.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's almost like we. We should be coordinating with a friend who's got, like, a big movie situation in their house.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And we should all go over and watch it. Like. Like, 20 of us should watch it at someone.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I feel like. Because it's like, that's the best part of those movies.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like, here's me just trying to get invited to your house. I'm like, yeah, one of us should throw a party.

[Paul Scheer]

One of us to have a theater like that. Like, June and I were like. I'm like. Like, it would be the best thing. We have one friend who has it, and he's always out of town. I'm like, can I tell you the movie that I think is going to blow your mind? This is the one. I saw this one, so I can speak to it confidently. Weapons.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, bro. I'm very excited about Weapons. I'm very excited about Weapons.

[Paul Scheer]

Zach Kreger's follow up to Barbarian. I will not say a word about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Please don't. I don't even want to know a thing about it. I went into Barbarian, not even seen the trailer, and it was such an amazing. I haven't seen the. I haven't even seen the trailer for Weapons yet. I'm trying to avoid. I'll catch it by accident on some point in the theater. But I'm trying so hard to know nothing about the movie going.

[Paul Scheer]

I will say nothing about it, but to say, bravo. It was. It was a movie that also, like, Jude and I talked about, like. Like, for days after. Like, it was just like one of those. So again, I knew nothing. I was surprised at every little bit of it. I'm psyched for him. I'm psyched for him, and I'm psyched. Like, I think he's just announced that he's doing Resident Evil now. Like, right? He's. Yeah, that's like, his next films. I'm like, oh, whoa. Like, he's putting it together in a really, really cool way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I'm really. I'm really hyped for that. For Weapons. It looks really. It looks really exciting. Like, that makes me very, like. Like, Zach, I can't believe, like, a guy from the Whitest Kids, you know, is like, Who I'm most excited about in, like, the authorship, like, filmmaking world. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

When you look at him and Jordan going like, these are guys that were doing, like, sketch comedy less than five years and they were so good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were so good at that that you couldn't even imagine that they flipped to becoming like these kind of.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm stoked for the highest to lowest.

[Paul Scheer]

What's that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just rattling up. That's the new Spike Lee, that Denzel.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like I. It's like a remake of a movie. I don't know any details, but I. Spike and Denzel working together has just got me excited and people are saying it's cool.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, well then, I mean, look, I'm. I've. I will always go see a Spike Lee movie. And I feel like I like them more when they are like a little genre y. Like, I feel like he can really nail genre. I think people don't think about Spike Lee like that. But you know, like the inside man I always like. It's one of the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's my, one of my favorite spikes for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

What do you think about fast 10 part 2? Are we ever gonna get fast 10 part 2? Because we just saw Mission Impossible. The, the, the final reckoning has come out. And that was a part two, but not really a part two. It was kind of build. I mean, the, the narrative around that movie has changed a little bit. Like it, it was going to be 1 and 2 now fast 10 part 2. I am losing faith that this is ever gonna happen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm losing a little faith in it too. But, you know, Vin won't let it drop.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what I mean? Like, Vin is a businessman, right? He is posting like crazy about it and like pictures of him and Helen Mirren, pictures of him and old cast members saying that the script is where it's at. This. That. The other thing. Yeah, See, look, his Instagram is all this kind of shit. And like he, he's making it seem like the movie's made already. We know it's not even like written and. But we, but we know that he's like, it's locked in. We got it. And I talked about this with fellow fast head Griffin Newman at length, but at the Emmys, was it. Or the Oscars, when he's like, hey, Dwayne.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And, and that is just. They're doing wrestling like kayfabe to each other. That will at some point culminate in the Rock making a deal for fast 10 part 2 and them doing some big like, well, brother, we decided, you know, and making it seem like they're going to give the Rock, like the feeling that he got it greenlit. They're going to like. It's. It's the marketing that the, the behind the scenes pseudo marketing is happening as we speak.

[Paul Scheer]

I believe what you need is for both guys to be low enough to have to agree to do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And, and we might be there. If the Safdie movies with the Rock, if that Safdie movie with the Rock doesn't do what we hope it does.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. And even if it does, it's going to be an indie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not 100 confident in Dwayne Johnson.

[Paul Scheer]

It's going to be an indie. It's not going to be the one that is going to bring him back into like, I think if anything it will be like uncut gems in the Greatest Success, which is a great thing. But that uncut gems is not like a. It's not like, welcome to Blockbuster. Sandler could. Can go in and out, but that's. I don't think that that helps him ultimately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right, right. It just gives him a little bit of, like, real acting cred.

[Paul Scheer]

And.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And the Rock could use, like, a couple of doses of that in his resume because he's. It's just been so fucking blockbuster. Aiming for blockbusters and failing at times. It's just too much.

[Paul Scheer]

But there's this weird thing where it's like, you put this fucking cliffhanger in, and everything I've been reading that Vin Diesel's been saying has been stuff like, oh, man, we're going back to basics. We're going back to basics. It's back to California. Like, great. But you can't go back to basics when you've ended the last one on a cliffhanger of you driving down the side of a dam. Like, everything about that's blowing up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah. So crazy thinking about how that last one ended. Like, probably one of my least favorite of the franchise. Yeah. But it is the. Also the back to basics thing. Saying that now is a solid rebrand.

[Paul Scheer]

Of huge budget percent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And this is back to basics is just like, look, Cena's not coming back. So and so is not coming back. So and so is not coming back. It's gonna be back to basics me.

[Paul Scheer]

And like, yeah, that's it. Like, it's gonna be me, Tej and Ro. Yeah. Well, here's the thing that I worry about. I don't know if you ever picked up on this, but, like, there was a time when Bruce Willis would talk about Die Hard after, like, Die Hard 3. And I remember this quote. It was like, Bruce Willis on the stoop with Kevin Smith. And Kevin Smith was interviewing him probably during the making of Cop out or something like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And. And Bruce is like, you know, what people never got was, you know, reason why. Why people love Die Hard is because the New Jersey sense of humor of John McLean. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. That's not why we like Die Hard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't, like. I don't even associate McLean with New Jersey. No.

[Paul Scheer]

And that was like, to me, a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Clarion call of, like, that's so funny. Like, I always thought. I assumed he was like, a New York.

[Paul Scheer]

I think that Bruce Willis is from New Jersey. He's like, well, so it's like, you know. So, like, I think that there's these moments where these actors sit with these characters for too long and they start to overanalyze their impact. On film, it's like, yeah. The reason why people like Jaws is because, you know, his cultural hatred of the Fourth of July. Being a tourist, you know, we're not celebrating independence. It's like, no, no, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it's like, we like the music and the fact that we don't see a shark for a while. Like, that's. Sorry, but that's.

[Paul Scheer]

I think that people get their heads up their own ass in these things, and I think that we, like. I hope. And this is why you think the idea of putting Fantastic Four in the 60s, that feels fun. It's like, all right, we're not worried about MCU shit. And that. I like that with Superman. We're just kind of. We're not. We're just kind of jumping ahead. It feels like. It doesn't feel like we're starting in from scratch, which is great. We've already seen that story. Story. It's like what I said was good about Naked Gun. It's like, give me the thing that I want, but just slightly, but inject some new stuff in there that I didn't know I needed. It's like, we're trying so hard to reinvent the wheel. It's like, no, I want the wheel. Just give me new.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

New rims.

[Paul Scheer]

New rims.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Well, it is kind of like, give the audience what you want, but also, as a. The creator, make what you want to see if there's that. Find that middle ground. You know what I mean?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, and I think the problem is, is, like, they go. They're thinking too much. It's like, what is. What is my character? Like, what. Like, what is Tej? I'm like, we don't care. We don't care. We just want you to be the guys on the computer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Have him make fun of Roman once and just then, like. And then hack into the fucking dod.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, we don't need the bigger backstory now. You know, we will see what we'll get. All that to be said before we get fast 10, part two. We will get Kojak. Vin Diesel is Kojak.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, man. Who loves you, baby? That's a great. That's a great.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, and I just hope. I. I hope. I hope I'm into that. I'm into that a lot. All right, so, Jon, we can find you on Action Boys podcast. We can find you on Staying Alive, wherever you get your podcast. Anything you have, shows, anything else that we could.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would just throw out that I did 30 episodes of the Gino Lombardo Show.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, this is great. I love this. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I'm selling it now as like a collectible cassette tape that's really a USB drive with all 30 tracks on it. Three seasons. Each season has its own arc. Insane guests including Anthony Scaramucci and like Sarah Sherman and a lot of fun people. Yes, I said Scaramucci.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. It is wild. And it's also just a great. If you're a collector of things.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I hired this great Long island artist, Ian Cinco, to make me like a Jerky Boys inspired kind of. And he's a Long island guy. And it's got a lot of cool shit on it.

[Paul Scheer]

It.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You can get it for sale@gino gabris.com. i'm getting back into physical media. Personally, I just blew. I blew money at the Criterion sale. I'm just getting back into it. So I'm like it. I wanted to make something physical for people to buy too.

[Paul Scheer]

I love it. I just bought that criterion 40 box set where it's like all. It's like the. It celebrates the 40 years of criterion. So it's like every Criterion. It was it. I bought it around Christmas time and it was on sale for like 375 bucks. Bucks. And it was. It's like it's 40 films or, you know, it's like. And I'm like. And I had three. But I didn't have like the. I was like, great. I'm buying as it was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hell yeah. It's awesome.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a beautiful case and everything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got like I ate an eight pack of Bruce Lee movies. And I have Story one.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thief.

[Paul Scheer]

So good ones. Deep Cover is a recent acquisition from the Criterion, which is great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I got Heaven's Gate, a movie I've never seen but been wanting to watch. I was like, fuck it. I'm going to buy the Criterion to watch for the first time. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. Gabris, so good to talk to you. I'll talk to you soon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, will do. Later, bud.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you, Gabris, for just chatting with me. Now it's time to finally announce our next movie. Next week we are going from sailing the seven seas to getting served. That's right. Next week we'll be watching the 2004 movie you got served. That's right. A lot of people in it, a lot of dancing in it. You're going to love it. Here's a short breakdown of the plot. In order to achieve their dream of opening a recording studio, two friends, David and Elgin, must first win their city's dance contest. Yes, I guess a normal thing that happens, but it's a fierce competition that pits them against a group of very tough street dancers. I guess that's the premise. Here's what I'm gonna say. It's fucking great. Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a 14% on Tomatometer. Break the meter. Because they don't know what they're talking about. Nell Minow from Common Sense Media says, dubious plot, good dancing. Well, you know what? But let's take a listen to the trailer. They were the best of friends I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Know you better than anybody I know when you tripping what's up? I'm not like you, D. I can't just sit around and dream.

[Paul Scheer]

Their crew was unstoppable.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We just got a $5,000 challenge from some rich kid out of Orange power. Let's do this again Sometimes what's the matter with you? No fight.

[Paul Scheer]

You just mad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cause tonight you suckers got served.

[Paul Scheer]

You can stream you got served for free on Tubi. In addition, I also encourage you to check out Hoopla Canopy and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, eBooks, and comics for free. All right, people, that's it. That's all for Last Looks. If you listen on Apple podcasts or Spotify, please remember to rate and review the show. I'm gonna say it again. If you listen on Apple and Spotify, rate and review the show. It helps us. It's free. You don't have to do anything besides that. Just make sure you're following us and have automatic downloads turned on. These things help. All right, we want you to know that we are keeping the conversation going in our discord always. But we also are on social media and you can follow us everywhere on social media. Dtgm. All of our links to everything can be [e-mail] and a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avril Hallie, our associate producer, Jess Cisneros, our engineer, Casey Holford. And guess what? Bringing it back while Scott's on paternity leave. Cody Fisher. Before we go, we had so many amazing second opinions from Sinbad of the Seven Seas that we couldn't just keep them all in the main episode. We're gonna play you my favorites in the outro of this one. All right, we will see you next week for your Got served. Hi, my name's Katie. Now hush little Jane and hear the tale of Sinbad of the Seven Seas, who's setting out to defeat Jafar with the help of Prince Ali and the bald cook, the Viking warrior, the Chinese soldier of Fort Fortune, and best of all, little poochie. The five star reviews online. It's Second opinion. Yes. Great job.

[John Gabris]

Hi, my name is Dan.

[Paul Scheer]

You don't know me, but I'm a reviewer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

I am logging onto Amazon.com you do do do telling me this movie's really shitty. Do do do. I don't know, but I think it's really good to me.

[John Gabris]

Second opinion.

[Paul Scheer]

Second opinion. Second opinion. Five stars. All aware now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Amazing. Great. All right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Delightful.

[Paul Scheer]

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