Love on a Leash w/ Jessica St. Clair (Classic)

Summary

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How Did This Get Made?

Episode: Love on a Leash (w/ Jessica St. Clair – Classic)

Release Date: May 19, 2026
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Guest: Jessica St. Clair

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Episode Overview

This classic episode of "How Did This Get Made?" dives into Love on a Leash, a baffling and infamous indie film about a playboy punished by being turned into a dog in another life—who can only become a man at night if he wins the love of a woman. The panel, joined by comedian/actor Jessica St. Clair, unpacks the film’s surreal plot, notorious technical and aesthetic choices, and its inadvertent sexual energy. The result is a hilarious exploration of cinema at its most confounding and inexplicable.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Immediate Reactions & The Nature of the Movie (03:30–06:00)

• Paul Scheer opens by struggling to describe the plot, noting the absence of any real movie “stats” and the availability of the film for free on YouTube.
• Jason Mantzoukas admits the film gave him a “full nervous breakdown … reduced me to insanity in a hotel room.”
• Jessica St. Clair claims, “This movie scared me more than all of those [horror] movies... These were adult. Real adult people. Filmmakers.” (07:10)
• June Diane Raphael coins this as a “cultural reset” for the podcast, joking it feels like “episode one” all over again (04:22–04:42).

2. Technical Peculiarities & Aesthetic Choices (07:58–13:00)

• Silent Opening:
  The first two minutes of the film are totally silent, with no music or dialogue—“one of the most horrifying experiences… puts you in a panic mode.” (07:40–08:14, Jason M.)
• Color Scheme:
  Characters are almost always dressed in monochrome (especially shades of green), with apartments painted to match. The group discusses whether this is a symbolic choice (life, jade, luck), or just bizarre production design.
  • June: “I have a lime green dress and I almost wore it tonight. I was actually like so sickened by the color from last night.” (10:13)
  • The group debates whether the main character’s heart-shaped (or leaf-shaped?) green bed is a metaphor.
• Strange Props:
  A mysterious hanging mesh organizer in the apartment baffles everyone.

3. Plot & Character Insanity (12:12–25:00)

• Who Would Love a Dog-Man?
  June muses if she would love her dog if it became a man at night, leading to a surreal discussion of dog/human relationships.
  • Paul: “All day long, you're picking up his shit, and then he turns into a guy, but only at night. That would really mess with my mind.” (13:38)
• Lisa’s (the lead’s) Relationships:
  Lisa, the female lead, is presented with several bad suitors (Kyle, Mark, Frank—collectively the “creep parade”), but ultimately falls in love with her dog, Prince/Alvin.
• The Dog’s Character:
  The dog is voiced by comedian Steven Kramer Glickman, whose character oscillates between sleazy, misogynist stand-up and earnest romantic.
  • Paul: “The dog is a fucking creep. From minute one.” (25:10)
  • Jessica: “A homophobic misogynist. The dog is a sexual predator.” (25:27)

4. Sexual and Horny Undertones (27:19–29:00; 59:20–61:18)

• The panel is repeatedly disturbed by the film’s sexually charged energy, especially the implied woman/dog romance and the almost-voyeuristic filmmaking.
  • Jessica: “The whole movie is going, you want to fuck a dog?” (27:57)
  • Paul: “This dog wants to fuck you... we're often inside the dog's head and the dog's like, oh, gimme, gimme, gimme.” (28:01)
• The film’s lone sex scene is dissected at length, the panel joking about “dog dicks,” and June clarifying that Lisa is a virgin, which is supposed to make her awkward and giggly.
  • Paul: “As it's fading out to their kind of sex side, all you hear is him saying, 'I'm sorry.'” (59:29)

5. Acting, Wigs, and Transformations (21:27–23:23; 30:03–32:19)

• Lisa’s Hair:
  A recurring joke is dedicated to the main character’s disastrous wigs and hair extensions—“Even her bob had crazy layers… the craziest layers I ever did see.” (22:13, June)
• Kyle the Beard:
  Lisa is offered a “beard” arrangement with one of her suitors—a platonic marriage for social appearance.
• Supporting Cast:
  The group notes that side characters like Paula and Rita (“Rita's incredible”) are vastly more interesting and likable than lead Lisa.

6. Dog Acting & Consistency (51:43–55:00; 72:01–72:54)

• The panel discusses the fate of the dog actor, bemoaning the poor animal’s consent: “This dog is like, listen, Jason, I have lots of feelings on that… This poor dog is like... The dog didn’t consent to be in this movie, you know.” (51:43, June)
• New research reveals multiple golden retrievers were used (some not matching perfectly), due to filming during heat waves. The DVD cut includes a score, but streaming versions don’t.

7. Surreal and Disturbing Moments (67:13–69:12)

• Creepy "Handmaid’s Tale" Scene:
  The mom of one suitor sternly explains Lisa must have her tubes tied before marriage, in order for her stepson to become President—leaving the group stupefied at the film’s sudden detour into horror.
  • Paul: “This could be like a Blumhouse horror movie.” (68:42)

8. The Ending and 30-Year Time Jump (73:16–80:10)

• Dog Death & Resurrection:
  Prince is killed by a car, then returns 30 years later, magically young again after reuniting old Lisa and Paula.
• Marriage & Scrapbooks:
  The group is dumbfounded by a scrapbook containing photographic evidence of the interspecies marriage, pondering who took the photos and why Lisa was always in a veil.

9. Truths Revealed: Behind-the-Scenes (85:10–88:20)

• Steven Kramer Glickman joins with a video, answering FAQs:
  • He was paid in wontons and cantaloupe, not cash.
  • The film’s funding came from a church in China under the pretense that it was about Jesus.
  • The reason Lisa is covered in fake pimples: “People who don’t have sex end up with pimples on their face.”
  • Jana Camp (Lisa) and Anise Kaymo (Prince/the human) married in real life and refuse to talk about the movie.

10. The Panel’s Verdicts (89:04–89:36)

• Paul and Jason recommend watching the movie—with ample warning: "Give yourself enough time afterwards to process how upset you're going to be." (89:16, Paul)
• Jessica declines: “Of course not. I care about the people in my life and I would never inflict this kind of harm on them.” (89:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This movie gave me a full nervous breakdown... reduced me to insanity in a hotel room.”
  — Jason Mantzoukas (03:44)

• “I feel like this woman has so many good choices presented to her… I could make that work.”
  — June Diane Raphael (13:44)

• “We are like the Lewis and Clark of bad movies.”
  — Jason Mantzoukas (05:14)

• "The whole movie is going, you want to fuck a dog?"
  — Jessica St. Clair (27:57)

• “What is that mesh thing in her apartment?”
  — June Diane Raphael (10:19)

• On Lisa’s hair:
  “If someone walked down the street with that haircut, they were mentally unwell. I would ask them what they needed.”
  — June Diane Raphael (22:13)

• “The dog hated women.”
  — Jessica St. Clair (20:56)

• “He got hit by a car… that was so upsetting.”
  — June Diane Raphael (51:54)

• “Being paid in wontons and cantaloupe.”
  — Steven Kramer Glickman (86:10)

• “If you gave [Love on a Leash] five stars, you’re a pizza faced cinder block.”
  — Rob from Long Island, singing a second opinion (80:44)

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Essential Timestamps

• 03:30 – Jason’s nervous breakdown, panel introductions
• 07:40 – Discussion of the silent opening
• 10:00–13:00 – Color (green) and set design mania
• 13:30–15:00 – Dog/human romance and “Ladyhawke” comparison
• 25:10 – The dog's toxic personality
• 27:57 – Horny/sexual undertones
• 59:29 – Dissection of the sex scene (“I’m sorry.”)
• 67:37–68:42 – Handmaid’s Tale-esque “tubes tied” scene
• 72:01–72:54 – Use of multiple dog actors; missing movie score
• 85:10–88:20 – Steven Kramer Glickman’s behind-the-scenes revelations
• 89:04–89:36 – Final recommendations

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Flow & Tone

True to How Did This Get Made form, the tone is irreverent, unfiltered, and riotous. The trio’s chemistry flourishes, with Jessica St. Clair seamlessly riffing on the film’s madness, Jason losing his mind at every new revelation, and June and Paul oscillating between horror and fascination. The discussion veers from detailed technical breakdowns to semi-absurd speculative psychology about the director’s intentions, to the panel’s own personal experiences with dogs (and their anatomy).

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In Summary

Love on a Leash stands as a new high-water mark for "How Did This Get Made?"—the rare film that continues to shock, disturb, and confuse even veteran bad-movie experts. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in notorious cult films or in awe of the push-and-pull between intention, accident, and cinematic disaster.

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Listen if you want:

• To laugh at a film whose every choice is both inexplicable and unforgettable
• To hear comedy’s best minds boggle at cinema’s weirdest dog-human romance
• To decide for yourself if you dare experience Love on a Leash

Transcript

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[June Diane Raphael]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just like Bart Yance said, if you like it, you ought to put a leash on it. We saw love on a leash so you know what that means. Big ball in the beautiful jewel gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room Ren against the street fighter help to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Tiffany Bridge our bird Demic how we staying alive? They call me when the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad gym funny looking kind and nice Paul, is June getting litable? Jason is getting lame June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they're just a bunch of movies while they making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get. Hello people of Earth and welcome to how did this get made? I'm your host Paul Scheer, AKA Tal Jon and today we are talking about love on a leash. A story about a cursed prince or maybe just a human who is a playboy who becomes a dog in another life in another country a not quite sure and has to fall in love with a woman so he become a man. But then when he becomes a man, he can only Become a man for part of the day. And that really is just the tip of the iceberg on this little indie that you can find for free on YouTube. This movie has really no stats that we can find. I don't think it was ever released. And no sound either for the first two minutes, which was quite unnerving. Now, tonight, we are going to be breaking down this movie with my two co hosts, but we also have a very special guest to join them. But first, let me introduce to you Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.

[Paul Scheer]

Boom.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

What's up, jerks?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? And we're so excited to have you talking because I know you love dogs. Oh, I know this. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Paul must love dogs. First of all. Must love dogs. Second of all, this movie gave me a full nervous breakdown. This movie reduced me to insanity in a hotel room. Can't wait to talk about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I can't wait to talk to you about it. And we can't talk about this movie without another person who loves dogs just as much as Jason and I. Her name is June Diane Rayfield. June, welcome.

[June Diane Raphael]

Hi.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hello.

[June Diane Raphael]

Hello. Hello.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Jason.

[June Diane Raphael]

Paul. You know, I know we've been doing this podcast for some time, but today I feel brand new. I feel like we've never done this show before because this movie, I truly believe, was like the cultural reset that this podcast needed.

[Paul Scheer]

It is a new episode one. This is episode one.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It starts.

[June Diane Raphael]

We're back to the beginning.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There are moments in this podcast, and I've said it before, but it keeps on happening. Where I go, I didn't think we could top where we've been.

[June Diane Raphael]

Had the same thought. I didn't think it. I didn't think it.

[Paul Scheer]

11 years in. 11 years in. 11 years in and we can

[June Diane Raphael]

still surprise ourselves.

[Paul Scheer]

Not just surprise, but have my mind scrambled like an egg that I'm allergic to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We are like the Lewis and Clark of bad movies.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a new frontier when we see it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, oh, my gosh, there's more. More here. Wow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June, I want to say not only is this a great movie about dogs, which I know you love, but it's a great movie about wigs.

[June Diane Raphael]

I want to save this discussion at one earmark, about 45 minutes to one hour to talk about our leads hair. But I would. I don't even want to touch this with a 10 foot pole until our guest comes out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And. And I am so excited.

[June Diane Raphael]

Table.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am so excited because she's broadcasting

[Paul Scheer]

From a Commodore 64 that is not working.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She has complained in the past I hate when I come on this show and you give me these movies with trash can fires. So we tried our best to find a movie with no trash can fires, but I would say the movie is an equivalent of that. Please welcome the amazing, the talented, the host of Deep Dive with June, Diane Rayfield, One of the stars of Station 5 on HBO, Jessica St. Clair.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hello, friends.

[Paul Scheer]

There she is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hello. Can you see my unmade bed? Let's just move over this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, we didn't even see it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Frame it out, please.

[Paul Scheer]

And you're welcome. No trash can fires in this movie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I would gladly take 1 billion trash can fires over watching this terrifying movie. And you know, Paul, because the last time you had me on your dumb ass show with Hubel, you showed me all the villains, all the scariest pinwheels and Pennywise and Pinhead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pinhead. Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This movie scared me more, and I mean that, than all of those movies. Wow.

[June Diane Raphael]

I understand that. I understand that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Because these were adult. Real adult people.

[June Diane Raphael]

People.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Filmmakers.

[June Diane Raphael]

Let's say that again. This movie is comprised of real adult people.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This was no cgi. Okay?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No cgi. It was a.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was not animated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was a octogenarian, first time director of the film. Yeah. Yes. So this is. Wait, what?

[Paul Scheer]

I was under the impression the dog had done the film.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, Fen Tin did the film. She is an octotenarian. Yeah. But I will say this. And this is the thing that I felt I was not prepared for, and Molly prepared me for it, which is the first two minutes of the film have no sound. No sound. No music, no sound. And that is truly one of the most horrifying experiences I have ever had. Because it puts you in a panic mode. It's like, okay, is something wrong with my tv?

[Paul Scheer]

What's wrong?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did they not know this? And did someone not tell them this?

[Paul Scheer]

Is it a move?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Paul, when you texted me, you said. I said, where do I find this piece of shit? Because you can't. I was like, it's not on any streaming platforms. And you wrote, you know, here's the YouTube link, and don't be afraid that the first two minutes don't have sound. Quote, that's a choice. And that scared me more than anything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I said it was a choice because, look, they had ample. It wasn't like we were watching a rough cut. It wasn't like it was, you know, premiering at Sundance. And there was some sort of issue in the projection booth. This was. Somebody put a stamp that this is ready to be released to the public. And that made me Uncomfortable on so many levels.

[Paul Scheer]

It felt so easy, like in all the moments of silence, because the movie is not, and I wanna be clear, not just the first two minutes, but throughout the movie, all establishing shots. There are shots where you can see actors mouths moving, but there is no sound. My mind was trying to rationalize it and say, here's where score was supposed to be and is missing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I thought this was the dog's mind. We were inside the whole movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Now this is interesting.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, I thought just sometimes when you would cut out, I thought maybe this is the dog's perfect perspective. But the dog has ears. That doesn't make any sense.

[June Diane Raphael]

And, you know, I have to say, I think, you know, Paul is running the tech on this live stream. Like, I do feel like Paul's tech work is going to be far more advanced on this live stream than the mixing and the, you know, color correcting. I mean. Well, I guess we'll talk about the green at one point.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

First time that I've ever seen.

[Paul Scheer]

June. Do you think we'll talk about the color green, June?

[Jessica St. Clair]

What the fuck was that about?

[Paul Scheer]

Every character was monochromatic. Every single character was defined. There's a moment in the movie where the movie jumps 30 years into the future. Everyone is still wearing monochromatic outfits.

[June Diane Raphael]

And let me just tell you. So I have a lime green dress and I almost wore it tonight.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, that would have been great. That would have been great.

[June Diane Raphael]

I almost wore it tonight, by the way. I was actually like so sickened by the color. It was sickened by the color from last night. And I wanna really talk about that mesh hanging thing that is right there.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's very upsetting.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, there's two also. What is that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought that was like a cat carrier, like a thing that cats can store. Storage.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's storage of some sort.

[June Diane Raphael]

Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no.

[June Diane Raphael]

So you're saying you just put your hand in and grab.

[Paul Scheer]

You're like, oh, look it. It's right near the door. So you walk in, you put your wallet and your keys in one hole, your phone in another hole. I don't know, guys.

[June Diane Raphael]

One is so high up that you couldn't even get to guys.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Was this apartment, one of the actors apartment? And that's what they're living in. Because I don't think they would have had the budget to paint that. I feel like somebody. And this is what I mean about real adult people. Somebody.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like they had to paint it just because the green is so tethered to who she is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I think they Worked backwards. I think they worked backwards from the apartment. I really do. This is a location specific movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you think that the green was about the jade? Because jade comes into play at one point, they go on an excursion to the jade museum, where we just go to a jade museum for a second and then never refer to it again. But I think there's something about the luck of jade. Like jade is a lucky color or something.

[Paul Scheer]

I felt like. Now, forgive me if you guys didn't agree, but Paul and I don't know what pictures or stills you have.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Can anybody tell me what was the shape of her bed?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A heart shape?

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a hair.

[Paul Scheer]

I thought it was a leaf and I thought it was green. Like, green was meant to be life. And, like, tree. Like, it seemed to me like this was like a leaf of some sort. But maybe you're right. And it's a heart. And I'm.

[June Diane Raphael]

I hear what you're saying. Like, it almost looked like a chestnut. It didn't look enough like a. Like a heart. And what was so fascinating to me about this bed choice is she said set up as, like a super kind of frigid. Doesn't you know when she has her first sex scene with the dog?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Her reaction?

[Paul Scheer]

A line that has never been uttered in this podcast. 11 years, probably never will again.

[June Diane Raphael]

Listen, it got me thinking, and I do want to open this up for discussion to my dear friends who are on the show with us. But it did get me thinking. Like, if my dog was a man, would I have sex with him? No. No. And I do think with Meatball, the answer's no. But I do think there are certain dogs.

[Paul Scheer]

Now let me ask you.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Meatball is your uncle. He's your coach.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I think there are dogs that are handsome.

[Paul Scheer]

No, let me ask you this, because.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait a second.

[Paul Scheer]

I've got a real question.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Because my real question is, if Meatball turned into a man forever, could you love that man? But if he turned back and forth every night so part of the time you were spending with him, he was still a dog. I get it. This is the fourth.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You were picking up his shit.

[Paul Scheer]

But you kiss a frog, she turns into a frog.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Put it into a bag.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

She's not dead.

[Paul Scheer]

All day long, you're picking up his shit, and then he turns into a guy, but only at night. That would really mess with my mind.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, in some ways, I feel like this woman has so many good choices presented to her. Like, I'm sorry, but even, like, the option that Kyle gives Her knowing what we do about what, how her life ends up, which is that she spends honestly, the bulk of her child rearing years the bulk of her life waiting for this man to come back as a man and not be a dog anymore. Like, she should have taken the Kyle deal. And I guess we'll get into Kyle now, but when he offers her a lifetime of basically just being a beard, like she should have taken that and then waited, you know, and even having Prince as a dog during the day and a man at night, given the personality of who Prince is as a man, I don't think it's a terrible situation for her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, hold on.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't understand.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I could make that work.

[June Diane Raphael]

I could make it work.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Was good enough. I could make it work.

[June Diane Raphael]

I could make it work.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, of course, I mean, you could make it work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You could make it work.

[Paul Scheer]

You could make it work. And why not? This is the. This. We've got ourselves a half of a lady hawk here, you know, which is one of my favorite of all time movies that we've never done, which is Rutger Hauer is a. Is a. Is a wolf at night, while Michelle Pfeiffer is Michelle Pfeiffer and Michelle Pfeiffer is a hawk during the day while Rutger Hauer is Rutger Hauer.

[June Diane Raphael]

The difference, Jason is like, everybody needs and should have a dog as far as I'm concerned.

[Paul Scheer]

Got it? Yes, of course.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so like, there are needs being met by both the dog version of Princess and the man version of Prince.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Also, just remember Ina garden Jeffrey. He's away from Monday to Thursday.

[June Diane Raphael]

That works out great.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And she's got a roast chicken for him on Friday.

[Paul Scheer]

The Barefoot Contessa is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's right. Wait, her husband relationship has a husband there? Yes. Hashtag. Really? She. They're everybody's relationship goals. And he's not there ever during the week because he's a professor at Yale.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

Nothing except for the songs that the dog makes up. I'm a dog driving in a car with my dog. Now, this kind of movies, that kind sound. Honestly, Jason, those are the kinds you come up with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Those are.

[Paul Scheer]

I could have.

[Jessica St. Clair]

When you drive with Jason, those are the kind of songs he sings these.

[Paul Scheer]

It's exactly like improv songs.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

When you make up songs that are just. It felt to me like whoever's doing that bit is watching the movie and just singing what they're seeing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, by the way, the person who played the dog is Steven Kramer Glickman, and he is a improviser and a comedian. And we'll get into how he got involved with this, but I believe very much they just turned a mic on and let him go.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Caught that magic.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's not the same actor as the actor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You didn't know that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason.

[June Diane Raphael]

They have completely different voices and personalities.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna be honest, guys, I didn't pay that attention. I didn't pay enough attention.

[June Diane Raphael]

The man who voiced the dog was like a completely different voice. And not only that, but personality.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But that's what I don't understand.

[Paul Scheer]

Isn't the same person.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Isn't it same person?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Allegedly, but yes. But the personality of the dog was completely different than the personality of the. The dog hated this woman and was using her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

A pizza face. Cement block.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A cinder block. Yeah, cinder block. And the prince was a sweet gentleman who. I wanted to have a foreign accent, but he didn't. Or maybe he hid it well, but I feel like he looked not as even. I just feel like he was a little more dull than the dog. The dog was real cutting, like very Rodney Dangerfield kind of material misogynist.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The dog hated women.

[Paul Scheer]

The dog hated is a douche, Right? The dog's personality is like a. Like a. Like. But I think they were trying to go off of. He had been a playboy or whatever. The guy says he had been a playboy and he had been punished so that the dog was trying to embody that kind of, like, what he. He's just, like, crass and crude, and he's like Girls, Girls. Where are all the girls? Here's a girl. There's a girl. Doodly do, you know? And like, that's the kind of stuff that happens in the movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

But here. Okay, but here's my problem. First of all, like, Lisa. Lisa is no prize.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay?

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

They did her dirty though, because Lisa was wearing a haircut. Now I think we realized later on that they put extensions in. They made her cut a bob and then they put extensions in.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Those were not extensions, June. That was like a clip in piece.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, it was a thin. Yes, but it was more hair that they put in to make her hair look longer so they could do that time jump, I guess. But I'm like it. If someone walked down the street with that haircut, I would.

[Jessica St. Clair]

They were mentally unwell.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[June Diane Raphael]

I would ask them what they needed. Oh, yes, I could help. No, no, because it was. She looked so deranged. And that. What was really upsetting is once she cut it off and got the bob and we've cut time now and now they're in a relationship. Even her bob had crazy layers. Like, we couldn't get away from the craziest layers I ever did. See.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now I thought her hair did a giant upgrade in the time lapse. And I feel like the dog. I think the dog kind of made her a little bit more like she was a little more dowdy. Like, we meet her and she is completely. She's a virgin who wants to find true love and is immediately pulled into these very bizarre relationships. I mean. I mean, she's pulled into two relationships that.

[Paul Scheer]

Three.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Three.

[Paul Scheer]

Three. Because of the creepy boss.

[June Diane Raphael]

Question is, what did creepy boss people or dogs and. Or dogs see in Lisa?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, they're not.

[June Diane Raphael]

What am I missing?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, come on, none of these guys. I mean, everybody. What about Kyle? Kyle.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Kyle. K. You're so obsessed with Kyle. Lisa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Lisa is like her best friend's like, go out with Kyle. He's rich. You'll go to Paris. And she's like, okay. And she didn't like Kyle for Kyle. She said, oh, he's like an uncle. Like, I didn't even feel like they got along. But then when, like when Kyle does a scene, can I play the scene where Kyle confesses that he's. Here we go. This is. This is Kyle confessing to him that, you know, here we go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Will you marry me?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. Don't get me wrong. Be in name only.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Name only.

[Paul Scheer]

After we're married, you'll still be free. You can date anyone you want. I mean, you can sleep with anyone you like.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No,

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't mean to be rude, but hair.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Too late.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Layers.

[June Diane Raphael]

Hair is so bad.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jessica St. Clair]

God, I'm sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

That painting we need to discuss as well.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm not attracted to any woman. All my relationships are with men.

[June Diane Raphael]

Kyle is the best actor in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's amazing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Kyle's killing it to his acting teacher. And they worked it and they worked it.

[June Diane Raphael]

And he did a great job.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And he did a great job taking it moment to. He's right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Beautiful moment.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Work right there with him.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's seen in the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then.

[Paul Scheer]

But why did she argue? You could argue. Kyle has the most interesting emotional arc.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm so compelled.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, you could also. Just so the audience knows, Kyle leaves about at moment 12 and we never see him again.

[Paul Scheer]

None of them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

None of his creeps.

[Paul Scheer]

The whole first act is Kyle, Mark and Frank. Like the three creeps. Like it's like the creep parade. Yeah, like creep parade. And then they all disappear because she falls in love with the dog, who

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is also a creep. Because, by the way, the dog, we have to say the dog is a creep too.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, the dog is a fucking creep. From minute one. From minute one, the dog is a girl. Girls gotta find girls. And a guy comes up and starts coming to me and goes, hey, I'm not gay. And it's like right out of the game right now. The dog is a homophobic douchebag.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Homophobic misogynist. The dog is a sexual predator.

[Paul Scheer]

Is there such a thing as toxic? It's toxic. Canine. Canine.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Caninity.

[Paul Scheer]

Canineity.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Toxic canineity.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. And I do think our dog. Meatball, I've said this to you, Jessica is absolutely, you know, misogynist and very toxic. Sick in his.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree.

[June Diane Raphael]

A staunch defender.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He's a conservative.

[Paul Scheer]

No offense, but your dog texts me a lot of MAGA stuff.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, he's full cue, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where was he. Where Was he on January 6? We didn't see him.

[June Diane Raphael]

I am too scared.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We, like, he. We thought he was with a walker, but he didn't come home for a couple days. It was weird.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was very weird. So I do.

[Paul Scheer]

He came home with a bunch of Nancy Pelosi's paperwork.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know. I kept it just for, you know, because I just. I'm a fan. But I kept. Yeah, it is. It was odd.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. So I do understand, like, what I was upset about to see a. Was to see a golden retriever represented that way. Because to me, that's Just, they're childlike.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's joyful. You know, there's not a bad bone. You never meet a golden retriever or a lab. That's a dick. No, you just don't.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I mean, I expect that behavior from him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know his name is Prince, Right. I don't know if he was a prince who was a playboy or just she named him Prince, whatever the case may be.

[Paul Scheer]

This is just because of the Princess and the Frog. Right. That's what this is because.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And I thought we were talking Beauty and the Beast.

[Paul Scheer]

You're right, it is Beauty and the Beast, but without the. I mean, the dog. Frog is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we don't get any tongue kissing of a dog. And our lead actress, we almost.

[Paul Scheer]

Even though you said you wanted.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Remember when she wakes up with him with the dog in the bed. That's actually the most disturbing cut.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I found this movie to be like. How do I say it? Incredibly sexual. Like it felt very horny.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The dog itself, in a terrible way.

[Paul Scheer]

No, the whole movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, like in a terrible way. Like in a terrible way that almost

[June Diane Raphael]

like you don't feel good about yourself.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. Like you were watching like a tape of a voyeur who was taping Passionate

[Jessica St. Clair]

People are from above, are from the Ceiling. And I don't know why, like, it's surveillance footage.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, it's like all of the tapes,

[Jessica St. Clair]

the whole movie is going, you want to fuck a dog?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Do you want to fuck a dog?

[Paul Scheer]

I feel. See, I disagree with you, Sinclair, because I think the movie is, this dog wants to fuck you, this dog wants to fuck you. Because we're often inside the dog's head. We never have interiority for Lisa, we have interiority for the dog and the dog's like, oh, gimme, gimme, gimme.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What if. Like, what if the interior voice of Lisa was like Judy Tenuta, like, ah, men are pigs.

[Paul Scheer]

Ah, shut up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, their inner selves are just like these really aggressive voices.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. What I couldn't understand is there is another actress in this movie who is giving us everything and then some. And her character's name is Paula. Paula. Best friend Paula.

[Paul Scheer]

Rita as well. Rita as well is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Rita's incredible. But I'm like, why isn't Paula the lead? Like, she's an arresting, charming voice.

[Jessica St. Clair]

She looks great.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now I can't take my eyes off of her. And I'm forced to. To follow Lisa the whole movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah, I mean, but it also seems like, again, like, so upset.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like she. The script did her dirty because they. They made her a character. They made her a character who not only has no agency, but everybody is telling her she's you. She's like not living life. And. And the. And so she's not, you know, she's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But yet she is the. This sexual object that every man, everyone touches, even the manager, when the manager goes, ooh, you got a spider on your back. He wants to get in there.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Creepy spider on your back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Have you girls ever had that happen to you? A guy come up to you and go, spider on your back?

[June Diane Raphael]

I wish. No.

[Paul Scheer]

And. But. And he blew the whole. First you got to throw a bunch of spiders on someone if you're going to do it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's true. It's true.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have to say I was very upset by Lisa's apartment and that mesh cat hanging thing, but I was even more distressed by that clothing department store that Lisa worked in.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God.

[June Diane Raphael]

And the highways and byways of that store. The aisles, the mannequins, the colors.

[Paul Scheer]

I have a question about that. So Kyle. Kyle, who we all like, owner of

[June Diane Raphael]

the department store, did he own it? He owned a few.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He owned a few.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I was clarifying.

[June Diane Raphael]

Kyle and what? Kyle's.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, no, no, I'm not.

[Paul Scheer]

I just was making sure. Okay, got it, got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Here's what I didn't understand about Kyle, though, is that I did not understand in the very beginning. We open up, there's a woman who I think comes back later on as an animal agent.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The dog.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She is a dog owner.

[Paul Scheer]

She works for.

[June Diane Raphael]

Same actor. I'm so sorry. She's the owner. You're right. She's the dog owner.

[Paul Scheer]

The dog talent. The dog talent agent.

[June Diane Raphael]

Commercial.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, no, no, she signed the dta. I think that dta. DTA was one of the first.

[June Diane Raphael]

I know, it was like Gersh or DTA. And you went with DTA. That was surprising.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

DTA's got all the good leads. I will tell you this. I think that that actress was playing a high powered executive for dog food

[Jessica St. Clair]

who was like, it's like a very, very unfortunate name. Dog food.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

I just want to say what was so interesting about Kyle and his depart and honestly, his philosophy on department stores and retailers. Yeah. We are back to Kyle dress. Is that in the opening scene when we first meet Lisa, that dog food owner is trying on a dress.

[Paul Scheer]

Same dress.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, right.

[Paul Scheer]

Same dress.

[June Diane Raphael]

Same dress she ends up wearing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Lovely choice. Love to call it back, but what's so weird is that Dress from my eye, looks like it fits just fine. Now there's a salesman. I think it's the other guy that

[Jason Mantzoukas]

ends up the creepy guy, the spider

[June Diane Raphael]

guy trying to assault her at one point.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I just. June, may I just interrupt you for one brief moment? When she's trying the dress on in the store and says it's too big and they have to squeeze it over her, there are two wet fart sounds inserted into the movie. That's the most score this movie has is two raspberry wet farts.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Like she fills her pants with liquid diarrhea.

[Paul Scheer]

She dumps out. In this movie, June is frozen in the best possible pose for me, as is Paul St. Clair. It's just you and me. Their wifi is down. We own this show. We got it. Yeah, baby.

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[Paul Scheer]

June back in action.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow. You know. And back in action on a hotspot right now on my phone's hotspot. Paul Scheer is this is not the

[Jessica St. Clair]

couple I thought would have the tech issues.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know what? This is so surprising. And I don't know what to say.

[Jessica St. Clair]

An apology.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, you do, Jess. Because. But this is. Honestly, this is like an act of God.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This is the show that's just to go back.

[June Diane Raphael]

Cause the last thing. The last thing I remember is discussing the fart noises that were laid in. And it's like, I want to say, just reminded me, like, you're so vulnerable as an actor. Like, we do the work. Because that woman is fucking amazing. She did a scene. Yes, she did a scene later on with the dog agent. Paul, do you want to jump in my frame?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, you're on.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, I'm on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What are you on?

[June Diane Raphael]

I've been on.

[Paul Scheer]

Babe.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm on Hotspot. I'm on Hotspot. He's very upset.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm so upset. I'm so upset for Paul.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm on Hotspot.

[Paul Scheer]

We're doing it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, what I was gonna say, though,

[June Diane Raphael]

is when I heard those fart noises, you know, it was such a reminder, like, as an actor, you show up, you're trying to do the best you can do you know? That woman was making choices. Later on in that talent scene, she had a beautiful scene with that talent agent where she was hilarious on the steps. And I thought.

[Paul Scheer]

And then inside with the dog, picking up the phones, you know, a lavender phone. Everybody's got a lavender phone.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Indigo, babe, Indigo. Indigo.

[Paul Scheer]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I was like, shit, this woman is great.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, that phone was not Indigo.

[June Diane Raphael]

I actually agree with Indigo.

[Paul Scheer]

It was lavender.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It was more blue.

[Paul Scheer]

It was lavender.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. It was way too purple to be called Indigo. But I'm like, my God, as an actor, you know, you never know what they're gonna do in post to you and your performance. It's humiliating. Poor woman. This poor woman was fucking humiliated. And for Love on a Leash, it's like, this isn't the. The, you know, Farrelly Brothers. This is Love on a Leash.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's my question. Do you think the movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's devastating to me.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you think the movie was trying to insinuate that the dress was too tight, but for those two toots. And once she. Once she got rid of. Once she got rid of those two farts, the dress fit perfect.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

The dress fit like a dream. So she's like, oh, it's too tight. She's like, oh, it fits good. I'm gonna go meet my husband.

[June Diane Raphael]

I read it kind of a different way or. Or Maybe we're saying the same thing but just slightly different, which was that those. The. The tightness of the dress let out

[Jessica St. Clair]

those two squeezed them out. Yeah. As she was getting it over her butt. Kind of the same, kind of the same.

[Paul Scheer]

Six of one, half dozen of another.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's like with Spanx, like, the fat has to go somewhere at a certain point.

[June Diane Raphael]

And that's always been my, you know, critique of Spanx. But here's what I don't understand. Okay. Going back to Kyle, like to spend a little more time on Kyle.

[Paul Scheer]

What is going on, June? June, I have a real question for you, June. Have you been in touch with Kyle?

[June Diane Raphael]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

Have you at all?

[June Diane Raphael]

No, but at one point I thought, did Kyle direct this movie? Because he. His style of acting and his sort of, you know, vibe. I was like, now once I found out he was gay, his character was gay, and I was like, oh, that's what sort of. He was bringing this. He was bringing a different texture to the movie, performance wise.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I didn't know what it was, but. So at one point I thought he was the director, but Kyle. Okay, Kyle's response. So what happens with that tight dress and those tutes is that Lisa comes over. Cause this woman is being sold that dress. And Lisa comes over and says, no, no, no, no, don't get that. This one.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I can't sell this to you. I can't sell this to you.

[June Diane Raphael]

I can't sell this to you. It's too tight, right? And I'm a little bit like as a customer, you know, putting my customer. Don't fucking tell me it's too tight.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, don't. I'll buy. I'll wear my clothes as tight as I want.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who the fuck are you?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, God. Where is. Oh, look at this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am on my phone right now because I've been trying to reset the Internet. So that's where I'm at.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know. Do we refund tickets? I mean, what do we do?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, we're doing the show. We're here.

[Paul Scheer]

We're going to get it going, refund the tickets.

[Jessica St. Clair]

We get back.

[Paul Scheer]

What are you doing? We should double price. This is so.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're right, people.

[Paul Scheer]

So lucky.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What about when the mom calls and she's in Dartmouth Silhouette, like Norman Bates movie, whatever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can you play that? Like play this moment because this is actually a great moment.

[June Diane Raphael]

We're going to try to play clip.

[Paul Scheer]

What is gonna get ready?

[June Diane Raphael]

There's no clips. There's no more clips, babe.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, God. I got It. I got the whole thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Don't worry about it.

[June Diane Raphael]

So dark that you're dating two guys. Terrifying. She's in a rocket.

[Paul Scheer]

What a creep.

[June Diane Raphael]

So what. What I mean is.

[Paul Scheer]

Weird angle.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You should date four or five guys at the same time, not just two.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why?

[Paul Scheer]

What. How old is Lisa slash Paula? Cause they seem to be peers. How old are they meant to be, do you think? Yeah, because they talk about their virginity or at least Lisa's virginity. You know, they seem to be horny like teenagers in a way. I mean, at least Paula is Paula.

[June Diane Raphael]

You don't have a heart shaped bed if you're a virgin.

[Paul Scheer]

Unless it's a leaf shaped bed.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a leaf shaped or a shaped bed.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Or a shaped bed.

[June Diane Raphael]

And you're absolutely averted. But if that's a heart shaped bed,

[Paul Scheer]

it's telling us the only man that she has had sex with is the dog. And that's a sentence that I would like to never say again.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's what's dangerous about this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

The movie really is. It's very horny, even though Lisa herself isn't that horny. But then Lisa, once her sexuality is unlocked by the dog, then she gets into. And she gets into it like she buys the dog a leash and it gets kind of kinky in a way because you're like, oh, is this gonna be their kink or is this just a leash for the dog that he is sometimes. Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This is also.

[Paul Scheer]

This is some next level stuff. Thank you, Molly.

[June Diane Raphael]

So they take. Okay, what's so amazing about this? Go back to that other picture, that first one.

[Paul Scheer]

I had a question. Yeah, go ahead.

[June Diane Raphael]

Are you gonna ask who took these photos?

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you. Thank you.

[June Diane Raphael]

In the world of a movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Cause it's a photo. It's a photo. This isn't a live show. These are photos. Seemingly.

[June Diane Raphael]

We know that because later on old Lisa is showing old Paula. Holy scrapbook.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Holy shit. That includes these.

[June Diane Raphael]

It includes these pictures.

[Paul Scheer]

It includes these pictures and then pages and pages of just pictures of the dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

What's happening? What is happening?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Why is she in a veil? Why was she in a creepy wedding?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so they thought this was their wedding night.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I want to know.

[Jessica St. Clair]

They clearly get married.

[Paul Scheer]

They get married. Well, they call each other husband and

[June Diane Raphael]

wife, for they get married in their own way in an interspecies kind of ceremony, which I think this is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

She's always in a kitten heel.

[June Diane Raphael]

Look at that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Every single character in a kitten heel.

[June Diane Raphael]

I. Oh, man. So I can only imagine they set Up a. That shoe really upset me. Actually, if we could just go back to that shoe. Because that's not even a kitten heel. It's like a flip flop with a.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's a flip flop with a heel.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's very upsetting.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Are we meant to believe, and this is not ageism, but that these, this is the sexual fantasy of. Of an 80 year old woman brought to screen?

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow, Jazz.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Cause there's, you know, like especially even that photo shoot.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it is the fantasy of like a riff on a fairy tale kind of, you know, the woebegone princess whose prince is missing and he's been cursed by a this and that and the only true love's kiss, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I think it is. It's very. But it is. It's also super horny. Like I feel like putting a leash

[Jessica St. Clair]

on a man and making him eat from a dog bowl and stuff. I do think that we're seeing like a granny's, like, what's making a granny hot? And that question is interesting, that maybe you wanna fuck a dog.

[Paul Scheer]

You think it's like a. Oh, you wanna fuck a dog? Or is it that you wanna treat a man like he's a dog?

[June Diane Raphael]

Is it that?

[Paul Scheer]

And in this instance, one in the same, it is just actually actualized as the dog?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, well, yes, I do think what we're toying with and what we're playing with, I actually think, I have to say, quite honestly, I think there's a good movie in here. I think that there's like a romantic comedy in here that works quite well. It's. Oh, Paul's back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm fully back now. Let me just tell you one thing. You missed the thing. They set up a camera on a timer to take those pictures of them. So that's the first shot in the montage which I have right here.

[June Diane Raphael]

Explain it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, that's one thing that they really do explain. But it's in this one moment.

[Jessica St. Clair]

They would go out of their way to explain that, but not all the other magic.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm only angry, Paul, that you didn't rejoin the show from the sauna bed.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, look, you know, I thought I could pull it out in that moment. I thought it could be. Now I do have a question about this though. This photo thing. Did they get married in that moment?

[Paul Scheer]

They seem.

[June Diane Raphael]

We didn't discuss that.

[Paul Scheer]

They seem to have because from then on they refer to each other as husband and wife repeatedly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Again, they did their own private ceremony. And you know, in a way I appreciate that about them, that they're like, we don't need the state involved. You know, we don't. We don't need.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is she marrying a dog or is she marrying a man?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's the thing, is they had to get married at night in those photos. So he's a man, but during the day, is she at the park with the dog, saying, this is my husband, Prince.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But yet he tells us something early in the film.

[June Diane Raphael]

Prefer to meatball as my husband.

[Paul Scheer]

Interesting. What Interesting? You're halfway to Lisa, June. You're halfway to Lisa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I will say that why I

[June Diane Raphael]

had such a bad reaction to her. I saw myself too close.

[Paul Scheer]

Too close.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When they did say, like, I'm gonna name you Prince, at no point did he go, no, actually, my name is Alvin Feng. Because that's what he did. Tell. Like, we hear the dog say, my name is Alvin Fang.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wait, what?

[June Diane Raphael]

The dog says his name is Alvin Fang.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm so sorry. What?

[June Diane Raphael]

What are you talking about?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm so happy that I got back in on this because I know a

[Paul Scheer]

lot more about the show. You mean the show.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know where the show.

[Paul Scheer]

You were able to rejoin the show.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I literally was down.

[June Diane Raphael]

Should I switch to wifi? Because I'm paying for this hotspot, baby.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hotspot? You don't even understand. You're not paying for it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You got a hot spot.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think you do pay for.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I want to tell you this. So when she's naming him, he goes, my name's not Prince. It's Alvin. Alvin Fang.

[Paul Scheer]

Huh? Then why doesn't he correct her when he becomes a man?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, the whole time I was like, is when he's a human a man? Is he trying to fake it? Like, fake being a nice person? Because the moment he goes back to

[June Diane Raphael]

being a dog, he's like, well, no, he's learning, Jason. That's the same thing.

[Paul Scheer]

But that's what the movie wants you to think, is that he's learning to become a better. That's all.

[June Diane Raphael]

But, well, but it's complicated, right? Because.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well.

[June Diane Raphael]

Cause I really did want to know. I felt that he was falling for her. I felt that their love was real. And then every time he became a dog, I was like, oh, well, I

[Paul Scheer]

have just found out.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know what to believe.

[Paul Scheer]

I've just found out that it's two different actors. Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah. Yeah. That was new to you.

[June Diane Raphael]

You didn't know that.

[Paul Scheer]

So now that makes more sense, because clearly the man act the actor in the movie was performing the arc of, you are a playboy who really falls in love and has a transformative experience through your relationship with Lisa. And the man voicing the dog was just riffing on Dog misogynist.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was almost like he was Mystery Science Theater 3000 ing the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

What did I say? Toxic canineity. Canine caninity.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, maybe this is a good chance for me to just tease that. We do have a video from Steven Kramer Glickman, who played Alvin Fang, AKA the dog in voiceover, and he will tell us how he got into this role and all the ins and outs and how he was paid and all of that. But I will say this. That dog seemingly was truly earnest and loved her and wanted to provide for her and made that dog food come. He jumped through hoops. Not literally, but he made him calls

[Paul Scheer]

her Pizza face Cinderblock.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, no, no, that's the dog.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's what I thought. That's what we thought.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The human man. Sorry, they're all. The dog. It's hard. The human.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on one second. The dog and the human are the same soul, though?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think so.

[Paul Scheer]

If there was a soul, perhaps.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, the dog and the human are the same, and they are.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

So, Paul, you're describing them like. Cause I actually was like, I don't think this dog or human wants Prince or Alvin Fang. I don't think they actually want to pursue a career in entertainment to provide for Lisa. I think he wants to be a star.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think so.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think so. Because doesn't the. Okay, hold on a second. Doesn't the magic water tell him that he's supposed to take care of her? Like, demonstrate. Demonstrate that you can take care of her and sacrifice.

[June Diane Raphael]

But before that, Jason, way before that, he saw that business card.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yes, for sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. From picking out the outfits and the talent agents saw it.

[June Diane Raphael]

There was a twinkle in his eye, and he caught the bug.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The acting dog, he didn't seem to want to go back to acting, but I will say at the end of

[Paul Scheer]

the movie, he gives her the money.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, for him, it's not about the money. It's about just the ego of being

[Jessica St. Clair]

a dog actor in front of the screen.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Should we see his. I mean, should we see his work as a dog actor? I mean, this is. Yeah. All right, so as Jessica says, by

[June Diane Raphael]

the way, this dog actor is wonderful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, but you have to ask yourself. I agree. You have to ask yourself. The dog didn't pursue this job. The dog doesn't know what it's doing. This poor dog is like.

[June Diane Raphael]

This dog is like, listen, Jason, I have lots of feelings on that.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, the dog didn't consent to be in this movie, you know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, you're talking about dog bars.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He got hit by a car.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was so upsetting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The only blooper that they show. They show bloopers at the end of this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Holy shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They show a blooper of the moment when the dog was hit by the car, which he wasn't really hit by the car, but the blooper is a bloody dog post car hit.

[June Diane Raphael]

I could not believe. But I couldn't even believe before the bloopers that they had a shot of that dog on the side of the road with a bloody head. I couldn't. I couldn't.

[Paul Scheer]

And then them trying to make the dog get in the pool. The dog doesn't want to get in the pool.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Those are not bloopers. That is bad training.

[Paul Scheer]

Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like that is.

[Paul Scheer]

That is evidence in a court case

[Jason Mantzoukas]

back to how to attract the opposite sex, because. Did you think that Frank did a good job flirting by pretending he was married? Is that a good move?

[June Diane Raphael]

Wait, Frank pretended he was married?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, is that Frank?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. Frank comes in and says he's looking for something for his wife. But he describes. He says. He also. If I'm working in a retail establishment and someone comes up and says, is. Is your name Jason? I'm like, no, I'm out. The answer is no, you should not know. Customer. You should not know my name. When I worked at the Gap after high school, if somebody came in and said, hey, are you Jason? I would have been like, nope, my name's. My name's Gary. See you later, weirdo. You should not know that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Totally.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's a good tip.

[June Diane Raphael]

I had no idea you worked at the Gap. By the way, you worked at the

[Jessica St. Clair]

Gap during, like, Prime Gap Reality Bites time. That's what Janine Baroflo does. And Reality Bites stem look very similar time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep. At the Liberty Tree Mall.

[June Diane Raphael]

Have you taken those folding skills and do you use them in your own life?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, June, I did, and I do. He does my packing cubes. My packing cubes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I use packing cubes flawlessly.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I knew you were gonna bring that. You did the. You. Jason used packing cubes before anybody knew about them. The Eagle Creek.

[June Diane Raphael]

I thought they just started making them. I just started. I thought they were Doing new.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't get. I want to like them, but I don't get them.

[Paul Scheer]

I will give you a full blown walkthrough if you want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love.

[June Diane Raphael]

Listen, here's where they come in handy. They come in handy when you're putting together a packing cube of socks and like underwear chargers. Because then what you do, you just take the cube. Well, let me just. Just riddle me this. You just take the cube and you put it right in the drawer. You don't need to unpack anything. It's already in.

[Paul Scheer]

How about this? You don't even have to take them out of the suitcase. Cause they're puzzle pieced in perfectly. You just unzip them and you have access to everything that's right there in your suitcase.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, I don't wanna live in the house.

[Paul Scheer]

The drawers don't give you bedbugs. I'm a big. I'm a big packing cube guy. Peak Designs packing cubes. You crush it out there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, I also have bought them. I just haven't figured out how to use them. I watched the way that June uses them and I don't like it.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, no. You have to pack. You have to fold your clothes to the shape of the cube. That's the deal.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the deal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, well, now look, I will do

[Paul Scheer]

20 minutes just about. Packing cubes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would take it all on Patreon.

[Paul Scheer]

That's my Patreon show.

[June Diane Raphael]

Honestly, I would pay to watch it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Honestly.

[Paul Scheer]

It's called Zooks Cubes. It's called Zooks Cubes. And here we go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We are talking about ads right now. So I think it's a good chance for us to watch the dog Prince's acting debut in a dog food commercial that he does behind the back of Lisa. And he's trying to hide it from Lisa. But it's a national commercial. You can't hide it from Lisa. Cause she's always watching tv. So here we go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Look at that lower layer.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's so upsetting.

[June Diane Raphael]

So upsetting.

[Jessica St. Clair]

China Girl doll.

[June Diane Raphael]

Prince, is that you?

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

It's time for you to know.

[June Diane Raphael]

Where are you going?

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

I fight crime with ninjas.

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh. I never. I just noticed that lava lamp. A green. A lime green lava lamp is in frame there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Green everywhere but now. All right, so it is China. Realize I said there's no music in the movie. That I think is the only time we hear music. Which is from the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's just from the commercial.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Which isn't a David Bowie song.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How did they get the rights to that?

[Paul Scheer]

They didn't.

[June Diane Raphael]

They did.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think this movie was released.

[June Diane Raphael]

They did not. Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. All right. So they have to.

[June Diane Raphael]

Honestly, that might have been what shut down our Internet.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Might. Might have been.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have to say, if my. And Jessica, I'm curious how you feel about this. This. But if. If I felt like Meatball was having a good. Now, I did do one professional photo shoot with Meatball. Those photos with Paul. Those photos will be released within the next few months.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hopefully be a calendar. Have we approved those photos?

[June Diane Raphael]

I will talk to you about that later. There's a few things happening there, but there are some photos that we took with me box. And I did feel like he had a great time, you know, and it was a time to connect, and it was a time to. He did not have a great time. You don't think so? We didn't.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Doesn't seem like Meatball really likes to move around, and that took him to a different location.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's always the case.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He probably wasn't having the great time.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I guess I think if my dog. If my dog was gonna make or if I was gonna make money from Meatball being in a commercial and I felt like he was having an okay time and the hours were decent and nothing, you know, was gonna happen to him, I think I would put him in just because it would be fun,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

but it would be more equivalent of me doing a commercial.

[June Diane Raphael]

How do you mean?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because it's not her dog. It's her husband.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm okay with.

[June Diane Raphael]

I know what you're saying. I guess I'm just wondering. I'm okay with you doing a commercial. I'm okay with everyone on this live stream doing a commercial. I guess I'm just. Just trying to really think through, would I be okay with Meatball making money out in the world. I wouldn't want to rely on, but it's a human. I understand. I'm just. Right now, Paul, I'm just talking about Meatball.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But she's upset because he lied to her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Is that why she's upset?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, she finds a perfectly reasonable way for him to make money, and the only way he can make money.

[Paul Scheer]

Agree. And she first accuses him of. Of stealing. Remember when he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's right.

[June Diane Raphael]

He has cash on him and he purchased her address.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, meanwhile, that talent agent. We are to assume that that talent agent gave him a wad of $100 bills in his mouth, in his collar,

[Paul Scheer]

because remember, he says he calls the guy and he says, the dog will be there in the morning for the shoot. Just pay the dog, give the money to the dog.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Can you imagine that exchange? How does the dog fill out a W9? Like, what's gonna happen?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, by the way, the talent agent and the director of China Dog Food Company talk to him like, oh, my God, thank God you're here. Okay, great. So here's the premise of it. Like, they don't even treat him like.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Like a dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A dog.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like a dog. And they don't even ask, like, where's your handler? You know?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. The one talent that he has seemingly has nothing to do with what the commercial needs to be done, which is simply, like, the dog can pick out dresses. That's the dog's talent. Like, it should have been like, China doll outfit company or something like that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's tricky, too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Yes, 100%. I'm just going with.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Guys, I'm just going back to my notes. I'm going back to my notes, which I have, again, barely referenced so far. The night that they have sex for the first time. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

As it's fading out to their kind of sex side, all you hear is him saying, I'm sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. That is what I said to June. He goes, I'm sorry.

[June Diane Raphael]

Paul heard it. That was. I'm sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that because his dick is so big?

[Jessica St. Clair]

His dog dick is so big.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was so cool. I think it was.

[June Diane Raphael]

Cause it was her first time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was like. It was like this.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's so. I thought it was pussy. Because he's a dog. His penis is huge. Big, really big.

[Paul Scheer]

Because dogs have big penis.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sorry.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know. Po.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm so sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm so sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

It was chilling. That moment was chilling because here is. It's like a fantasy fulfilled in a way, but the movie is telling us it's not good for her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

For her. It's painful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Does he have a dog dick?

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's what I said. That he's got a big old dog dong, and he's saying he's A dog's

[Paul Scheer]

dick is smaller than a man. What are you talking about?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Maybe because what's your dog?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I saw your dog, Jess. That dog is not gonna.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, if not a male dog. First of all, he's got one of those big dog dicks. Oh, you know it. You know him. He's got one of those big old dog dicks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Big old sticks.

[Paul Scheer]

Dogs don't have notoriously big dicks that's what.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I've only seen me ball's dick, like, three times, and I wanted to throw up every single time.

[Paul Scheer]

If anything, it would be like, you

[June Diane Raphael]

know, a tiny little, like, weird red pencil every second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Should I pull an image of that up on the.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, no.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I just wondered if maybe in translation

[June Diane Raphael]

from beast to man, something song or.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Or maybe again, like, maybe we're meant to believe that he's the perfect man and that's. And that somebody who.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That you apologize.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think more than the size of his dick. I think that what was happening is that she is a virgin. That's why she was so giggly and so kind of like.

[Paul Scheer]

I think you're right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah, she was a virgin. That was disturbing, was painful, and that's what he was saying. I'm sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

I think you're right. And that makes more sense. That didn't occur to me. I was more like, why would this be the sex talk that they're. They're doing? But of course, that makes entirely all the sense in the world.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, it was also very disturbing. It was like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I tell you who I wanted to have sex, though? I wanted Rita and the dog to have sex because I felt like Rita had this. And that was what I'm saying. This movie felt sexual.

[June Diane Raphael]

You wanted Rita and Prince to have. You wanted them to make out? At one point I did. Wait, Rita.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Can I ask you, how is Rita related to family friend?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Rita's the moment who runs.

[Jessica St. Clair]

She's just like a gypsy family friend when she runs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought she was like a fortune teller and she was putting. Putting spells on men to, like, suck them in.

[June Diane Raphael]

Reed is one of those characters, though. Like, my mom had a lot of women in her life, specifically one that I remember. You know, when you're a part of a lot of different AA programs or. Or Al Anons or that sort of thing, you run into quite a cast of characters. And Rita to me, I saw a lot of Rita's in my childhood. Yeah, Rita to me was like, oh, it's one of your mom's friends who's too involved, who doesn't have a family of her own that she has any connection to at this point. Like, she's burned so many bridges.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, probably because she was a professional runner, Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

And she was focused on tracking her investment in Lisa. And Lisa's love life is so bizarre.

[Paul Scheer]

She pays those men. She pays those men to come up and show interest in her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

She's like a matchmaker, which almost becomes like a gang Bang on the dance floor. It's terrifying.

[June Diane Raphael]

A thousand percent.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And it feels. It's really scary.

[Paul Scheer]

It feels like one of those things where Rita is trying to fulfill her own fantasy but projecting onto Lisa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Absolutely.

[Paul Scheer]

It's unasked for. Lisa is like, please stop. And Rita is like, actually more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But Rita is also like, don't fall in love with who you love. Fall in love with somebody that I set you up with. Because I know better than you. Because Rita is out to, like, unravel Prince. Like, she is trying to uncover him as this other thing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, because also, I think Rita's really. Listen, Lisa's mom doesn't want Lisa to make the same mistakes she made.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, Well, I mean, that's. I mean, that's understandable.

[Paul Scheer]

Lisa's not understandable. Not in the picture. Not even referenced. Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Left her on. Not on the wedding day, which is what you hear about, you know, often left her on the day they were going to get their marriage certificate.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what I love?

[Jessica St. Clair]

The paperwork was going to go through.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, that's when he bounced. That's when he wasn't there.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's when he bounced.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say one thing, too. Just going back to Lisa not being a good person. First of all, she agrees to this weird setup with Kyle where her friend's like, go and just buy dresses and go to Paris. Paris and all that sort of stuff. And then she takes the dog in multiple times in this movie. She's like, get out of here. Like, go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, she's just constantly not a good dog. I'm like, can you take this dog for a walk? Can you pet him? She seems to not want that dog. Like, that's what's so weird about the movie is that their meet cute dog Prince. And Lisa is so, like, we don't for a second think that these two, this animal and person should be together. He help her really in any way.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Like, he.

[Paul Scheer]

It's also not special. It's not special because he's trying to get with every girl in the park. Yes, he's trying to get with every girl in the park. And he just, like, has enough interactions with Lisa that it ends up as her. Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, now, by the way, let's see them arguing in the park.

[June Diane Raphael]

What's your favorite? It's chopped liver. What is wrong with you?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm in a bad moon.

[June Diane Raphael]

Don't make it worse. He's just sitting there. Why are you treating me like.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And if I saw that woman, I would think she was on a couple times. I've been in a Target and I've seen someone who's clearly on meth. That's what I would think if I saw that woman talking to her dog going, what's wrong with you?

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm in a bad mood.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'd be like, that woman is. Is ODing on meth.

[June Diane Raphael]

Support her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, toxic relationship with this dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think we should save a little bit of our conversation about the end couple of minutes for a few moments later. And let's go to some questions from the audience because I think the.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I just mention one more thing still here very briefly, when the guy. When he's a man and he asks about the dog talent agent and Lisa kind of brushes him off, he rifles around and finds in her drawers a stack of business cards that is dozens thick.

[June Diane Raphael]

Where is.

[Paul Scheer]

Who is giving Lisa all these business cards? Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All these dudes who wanna fuck her.

[Paul Scheer]

Then we can cut to afterwards. The woman we mentioned who farts in the dress and the dog talent agent from dta. Dog talent agents. And he's showing her headshots of dogs for the dog food commercial, which are not headshots, they are just photos. And she describes one of the dogs as two ethnic. Why was like, what's happening? What's happening? That is what casting directors say about me. They don't say that about a dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She says, oh, my. Oh, by the way, I just have a good slogan for dta. You bark, we bite.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's good, babe. That's good.

[Paul Scheer]

Are you trying. Wait, are you. You know, it's not a real company.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm just saying if you wanted to have. That's a T shirt.

[Paul Scheer]

The dog talent agent. See? Swag shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You bark, we bite.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, it's like you want somebody to fight for you. You do your thing. We do our thing together. We're a dog talent age.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wait, can I just. Before we move on, there is one scene that I believe is actually the scariest of all because it feels like a scene from Handmaid's Tale, which I will never watch. When she goes. When she has the sit down with which mother who is a gynecologist and a nutritionist.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have that scene.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have no idea what you're talking about right now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is Frank's mom, the gynecologist. Yes. Here we go.

[Jessica St. Clair]

My grandson is only 10 years old. This is terrifying. And we are very anxious to find

[June Diane Raphael]

a stepmother for him.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I've heard that you love children.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, I do.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This child has been raised using the latest scientific technology in Nutrition education and psychology. Look how tired she is. He has an eye on. She's been kept up all night in a basement.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow. What a smart child.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Of course. And to be certain that he grows up to become President of the United States, we must ask a specific request to any prospective stepmother. She cannot have any children of her own.

[June Diane Raphael]

No children.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes. Furthermore, in order for her to not become pregnant, she must agree to have

[June Diane Raphael]

her two before the marriage.

[Paul Scheer]

This could be like a Blumhouse horror movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what I'm saying. This movie is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

That's like a. That is like. That could be like a lim. Like when we did Ladybug's David Lynch. You could do it with this. It only kind of works with this scene. Because this scene is so weird.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, the whole movie, the apartment, everything. This is one step away from an edgy a 24 like, indie film. It's super fucking weird and. And disturbing. And it's like. It truly is an unnerving film.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I have to say, I give this movie a lot of credit for the surprises.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, that's a surprise.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That was a really big surprise for me. And that is a crazy witch.

[Paul Scheer]

When a movie can give you this many surprises consistently throughout they've done something right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

100%.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

I just wanna alert everyone that I got a message on my computer asking me to disconnect from my iPhone because the battery's low.

[Paul Scheer]

Here we go.

[June Diane Raphael]

So I don't like where. So I just want to go back to wifi.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just go back to WI fi.

[Paul Scheer]

I still have so many notes. I have so much.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it's.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm just gonna do this. What's this movie's timeline? Couldn't figure it out.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, that's what I said to Paul. I said, has it been. Paul said that he thought some of the main action, like the bulk of the movie took place over like one week.

[Paul Scheer]

How about when? How about when? It's almost like a vampire story too, because. Because if it's a cloudy day, he can be a man, not a dog. But then his tail emerges when he's running away from Rita.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That tail was problematic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That tail was. That is a furry thing. That's what you do. You wear a tail to attract other furries. That's a subtle way of letting them know.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Peeking out of his khakis. Is that true, by the way?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, when that moment happens, when he first turns into a full fledged dog at that boss's. Like when she's having. Having lunch with the boss to be A manager of another department store. I love that that boss says, I wrote it down. I own over five stores at that point. Can you say six, seven? Like you wouldn't just say over five.

[June Diane Raphael]

So this is what's weird about that scene though, because I was obsessed with that scene and I was obsessed with his other children who didn't want to take over.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Like the legendary doctor. And he's like. She's like, I'm a doctor, dad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want to be a medical doctor.

[Jessica St. Clair]

A medical doctor.

[June Diane Raphael]

Doctor I was obsessed with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What other kind of doctors are there? I guess like a doctor of literature or I mean like, I guess, I mean, it doesn't seem like when you say a doctor, people assume like, oh, a philosophy, like to really lead with medical doctor.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Why does she throw herself into that pool in that scene? She just goes bananas and berserk and she tries to walk on water.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, she.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, I think she's trying to get to him. Yes, I understand that, but. But did she trying to run.

[June Diane Raphael]

She forgot that she couldn't run across a pool is what the only thing. She was so shocked to see him turn into a dog. Now listen, if you saw a grown man turn into a dog, what would you do? Like, I think I would try to make a phone call or I think,

[Paul Scheer]

I think I would. I would institutionalize myself.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I would be like, okay, we're done, Zo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's all done.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Which we should do after this call. The recording of this will be pretty proof that we need help.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just realized something. I just got it. I just looked at Nate Kiley's research here. Nate Kiley just revealed that the version on the DVD does have a score. The version on Amazon prime and Tubi removes all of the music, which means they probably didn't pay for it or something. So there is a score and then the other. And another piece of information that Nate has just dropped on us is, is that the dog in the movie is often switched out for similar looking dogs. Not like they're not of the same. They're not the same dog. It's just kind of like dogs.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like Mary Kate and Ashley. Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But at least they are like twins. But this is like. That would be like a. Like I think they said golden retriever. So throughout the movie there are different dogs because there's a lot of heat waves going on during the filming of this.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, that's the least of our problems. I didn't notice it was a different dog. I didn't either worry about why there was no.

[June Diane Raphael]

Filmmakers.

[Paul Scheer]

I would like to now retract my criticism for the lack of. For the silent. As if it was a choice to be without a score. So that. That's what happened. Okay, so it is. That is not the filmmaker's intention. So. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Exactly.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel better about that. Me too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I still feel sick.

[Paul Scheer]

It was confounding, you know, but now

[Jason Mantzoukas]

at the end, before you went back to wifi and joined us out of your hotspot world, we were talking about the end of the movie where the dog dies, is hit by a car, which we could see coming. I thought it was gonna be a Romeo and Juliet ending. I thought they both were gonna kill themselves and then they would both miss out. But the dog died and he came back 30 years later after she left her apartment. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Just very briefly, when he leaves, he writes her a note. And it looks like a note written by a five year old scrawled in marker on, like, a big piece of construction paper. And it's like, good luck. I hope you're happy. Whatever it says, going back to be a dog.

[June Diane Raphael]

He is a dog. Like, I don't even know how he knows how to write. Really.

[Paul Scheer]

He used to be a man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was a man.

[Paul Scheer]

He was a man in the past.

[June Diane Raphael]

He hadn't had skills in a while, though. But they say if you don't use certain parts of your brain, you know what things are.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow, June. Giving him such a benefit of the doubt that I am genuinely shocked by. I mean, it's not like we're talking about Kyle here.

[June Diane Raphael]

You haven't written your. Okay, believe me, he is no Kyle. If you haven't written in. I don't know how old that golden retriever is. Five years.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you have, you think that that dog has been running around like that, not knowing because the. Well, you didn't even play the magic pond. But I mean, this dog has been living his life. He didn't seem like it just happened either. It seemed like he has been in

[June Diane Raphael]

his purgatory dog for a while. You know, you don't use certain skills in life. You lose them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like they say, if you don't speak for a while, you lose the. You lose the. The muscle.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a muscle. It's a muscle.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, can I just play the. The opening curse? I mean, here's. Here's a moment of the opening curse because we haven't done this.

[June Diane Raphael]

Girls, where are you?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, here is one.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

She is hot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, watch me.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

That's messed up. It's because I'm A dog, isn't it? Oh, look, I really am a dog.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, watch this. Watch this guy check his own reflection out in the water. Change.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

You laughing at me, Water pond?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How dare you?

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

If you're smarter than me, then tell me how to change. See, you don't know either.

[Paul Scheer]

This is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Come back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When that happened. When that happened. Come back, I was like, we are in for the best movie I've ever seen. Like, he is mocking a water pond that then literally starts talking.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Did anyone think at a certain point in the movie that that mysterious pond lady was Rita?

[Jessica St. Clair]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

No. But I love that.

[June Diane Raphael]

I thought.

[Paul Scheer]

I also thought to myself, why don't we ever get an explanation of. Of who the mysterious pawn voice is? Like, doesn't it. It's like.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think my mind was trying to answer that question. And so I did, you know, make that lady Rita.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, here, I'll say this. We're getting great questions here. And I'm gonna kind of bring some of these up here. People say this, you know, was Prince cursed in this life or a past life? Was he somebody of old lineage or was it this something that happened to him a couple weeks ago? Because he seems to be living pretty happily as a homeless dog.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And he's called a playboy in his old life, which seemed like it was kind of like an olden days thing. But that's not. This isn't a Kate and Leopold type of scenario.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, that was from MASH and canine Prozac, which is something that they want to. The dog offers himself in the movie and is real.

[Paul Scheer]

That's like a real thing. There are, like, antidepressants for dogs.

[June Diane Raphael]

Absolutely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Canine Prozac writes, was Alvin turned into a dog or was Prince the dog given human intelligence and the ability to turn into a human?

[June Diane Raphael]

Wait a second.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Was Alvin turned into a dog or

[June Diane Raphael]

was Prince the dog given human intelligence?

[Paul Scheer]

No, I think he says a curse was put upon him. He was too much of a playboy. A curse was put upon him that he would be a dog, which is what we call, like, a guy who, like, is a. Gets around. He's a dog or whatever. So he's a dog in the next life until he can learn to appreciate and find true love. Right, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, that's what I thought, too. I'm just throwing it out there. We're trying to open up some questions. There's a lot of great questions here. Why is he a dick when he's in dog form and nice in human form? Now, is he lying? I mean, I think that that may be a film choice. Like, they needed more jokes in the movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think it might be. I think what we're toying with is this idea of, like, all men are dogs, you know, and even when you don't think they're dogs, I mean, what's her face? Paula says it early on at the park, like, they're just good for you,

[Jessica St. Clair]

they're bad for you.

[June Diane Raphael]

She's just like, having fun, but they're bad for you. They're dogs.

[Paul Scheer]

They're good for it. They're good for a good time or something like that.

[June Diane Raphael]

She says, you know, So I think that's where we're, as an audience, like, we are trying to figure that out. Like, is he a dog? Is he a dog?

[Paul Scheer]

It's hard to root for them because it's pretty late in the movie. When she falls into the pool, he rescues her. But he does call her Pizza Face. Cinderburg.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm stuck on that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, that really bothered me. I was like, I don't understand how at this point he can be still being this kind of hateful.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's my point. He's not learning at all. His daughter.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, he's mad at her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He's not learning at all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He is mad at her because she fooled forced him to embarrass himself. She's like, come, it's gonna be cloudy. He's like, I don't wanna do this. I don't feel comfortable. And she's like, please, for me. And he's like, listen to me, honey. I know this is not gonna work well. And he gave of himself, okay? And then he revealed himself. He wrecked everything. He's like, you're nothing but a pizza face cinder block. Like, he hated her.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, it's that. And that's a bad relationship.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, by the way, why shouldn't she say that to this gentleman right here when he shows up 30 years later? That's a segue. Why? Why did it take you so long? And then we learned that he created his own business. This man set up his own dog training business. And he goes, which is very successful, obviously. I'm pretty famous at that.

[Paul Scheer]

So he's the same age until he magically is turned old in a moment. Right. Why does that happen?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Why is he allowed to do that?

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Because he is just a human that was born. Then he got really old. And then he gets really young for the last scene.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Does he?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah, when they kiss.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, they're both old. When they kiss.

[June Diane Raphael]

They both. No, they are Both old, but then they turn young as they kiss like beauty and blonde.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, that's the whole end. Wait, I missed that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow. Okay, so they get their life back. That's weird. And yet everyone they know is in their 80s.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, we're gonna bring in the dog guy in just a second. But before we bring in our dog guy, before we bring in Steven Kramer Glickman, we are gonna see if there's a different way to look at this movie. If there perchance is a moment to reflect differently on it. It is now time for second opinions. You sent in these second opinions, and there were so many great ones. This one right here is from our friend Rob from Long Island. Rob from Long island always has a good song. Here we go.

[Paul Scheer]

Love on a Leash has a magical paw. But it doesn't have any background music or sound effects.

[Jessica St. Clair]

If I say that I hate it,

[Paul Scheer]

it shouldn't come as a shock. But if you gave it five stars, you're a pizza. Faint cinder blood

[Jason Mantzoukas]

these are five star reviews culled from Amazon.com and look, are there really good five star reviews for this movie? No, they're creative, you know, so I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read a five star review to get the sense of it. But I will also say there's a controversy here that the director paid people to up the rating of this movie because it is a 96 audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. It also has. Yeah, it also has a. It has like a 3 out of 8 of 5 stars on Amazon. So this is very high level. I think it's all done as a goof and a prank because a YouTuber told people to go there and do it. But I'll say Isaac K. Wright. Absolutely insanity from the beginning to end. No music whatsoever. The whole movie is a strange, soundless void outside the voices of the actors and actresses. The editing is very bad and the story jumps around like the film is having a seizure. Scenes begin and end seemingly at random. It jumps between day and night in some places. And the storyline is nonsensical to say the least. The dog is really the best character here. His inner monologue makes the movie. Strangely, despite claiming as a dog his name is Alvin Flang, when he becomes human, he is named Prince and his name is that the owner gave him. I really can't put this into words. How insane this film is. And I guarantee you will not see the end coming at all with this insane plot twist every two scenes, random dialogue, and a truly atrocious directing and editing style. This is A very highly, highly entertaining film from beginning to end. It's a great way to kill an afternoon. Five stars, you know, wow. I think that that's a, you know, a fair, A fair look. But in the third opinions, we get a little something different. Nick Kiley, always doing great research for us. Thank you, Nate. And Nate comes into the third opinions. These are people who are angry. David, like David Katchadourian who reviewed this in 2019. He goes, if I could give this zero stars, I would. This is so bad. The only reason I started to watch it is because it set it at a 9.4 on IMDb and it was highly rated on Amazon. It was. It is obvious the reviews above One Star are somehow affiliated with this made on a camcorder movie. The sound is unbearable. The acting is high school. Production quality and several shots are reused. You can hear when there is no audio track. There is no consistency in sound recording. And that was in the first seven minutes when I stopped watching it forever. One Star. Good reviews are fake.

[Paul Scheer]

Dave Karchaishin, wow, he really cracked the case.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then Jackie, just Jackie with a Y writes, this movie makes no sense. Production is bad. Bad actors. Even the dog is a bad actor. One Star. So people really took it on. But now I want to give you a couple little pieces of information. Molly continued Nick Kiley's research and found out not only that our director is an octogenarian, but she appeared in the Joy Luck Club as an actress. Auntie number one. But there's a true love story here, a love story that we may not have seen coming. Is that Jana Camp now goes by Jana Kaymo because she married Anise Kaymo, the actor who played Prince, the human virgin version.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I was going to say they had real chemistry. They had sexual chemistry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They did, yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And that is what they judged us about, whether or not we wanted to dogs.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because they, you know what?

[Jessica St. Clair]

They were really getting into it.

[June Diane Raphael]

You can always tell when actors are kind of into it. And I was like, oh, these two are into it.

[Paul Scheer]

I love this for them.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, I love them.

[June Diane Raphael]

God bless. God bless.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now some words from Steven Kramer Glickman. Steven Kramer Glickman is an actor. You might have heard him in Storks. He has also been on a Nickelodeon show that was incredibly popular. I'll tell you the name of that in just one second. But he volunteered to tell us the questions that he gets asked most about this film. So here he is.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

Hey, what's up? It's me, Stephen Kramer Glickman from, you know, big Time. Rush, Storks, and of course, who could forget Love on a Leash? One of the worst movies ever made. And I am very lucky to have been a part of it. Number one, why was the lead actress covered in fake pimples? Well, it was because, as the director said to me, people who don't have sex end up with pimples on their face.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

Also because she was so interested in having sex and that's all she can think about. That's why everything in her home is green. Oh, there you go.

[Paul Scheer]

Isn't that envy?

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

Very weird.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

1.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

Also, that actress, her and the actor who plays the human version of the dog, they did get married and they. And they do have kids or a kid and are still together to this day. And they will not speak about the movie. Kind of like sneak attacked and like, found a way of reaching out to her and asking her if I could interview about something else. And then when I got her on the phone, I was like, by the way, I'm the voice of the dog. Question number two is, how did I get the voice of the dog? A comedian named Ari Shafir came to me. I was the doorman at the Comedy Store. He was like, hey there, the dog. He didn't want to do the job, so he offered it to me. Very kind of him. And then the director, when she showed up, she was like, I cannot pay you, but I can give you this bag of wonton and two cantaloupe. That's 100% true. I ate all of it. I never was given any money for it. IMDb listed me as a cast member. I fought very, very hard to have my name taken off the IMDb for that film. And I was successful for years and years and years and years. But it's on there now. It is on there. Oh, no, also, oh, here's a fun thing. The movie was financed by a church, and the director got the money from the church in China by telling them that the movie was about Jesus, which it is not.

[Paul Scheer]

Whoa.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

And when the. When the head of the church came to America to watch the movie and see it, he was so horrified by what he saw that he said that the movie will never get released. And it almost never did get released, but it did finally, in another very strange turn of events. So, yeah, that's.

[Paul Scheer]

There you go.

[Steven Kramer Glickman]

There's some weird info on a movie that will not die.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow, that was the best. I'm so glad we saved it for last. Stephen Kramer Glickman.

[Paul Scheer]

So informative.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So great. And he just did that Today, just minutes before the show started, he sent that in. So we. So thank him. Thank him for that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I feel less crazy now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I wanted to let people know. You can follow him on TikTok. He has an album on TikTok. He's got a podcast. You can follow him at stephenglickman on Twitter. But what a nice guy to let us know everything. Being paid in wontons and cantaloupe. He seems like he's got a great energy about him to talk about it. And I will say this. The movie came out in 2011. The tagline was love at first bark. Would you recommend this movie, Jason? June, Jessica, what do you think?

[Paul Scheer]

I would recommend this above all, almost anything else.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, I agree. Jason. I'm like, there is so much. Again, I don't even know if we talked about it. There's so much there.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's my note. My recommendation comes with an asterisk. Give yourself enough time afterwards to process how upset you're going to be.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. Jessica, would you say you don't recommend people seeing it?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Of course not. I care about the people in my life and I would never inflict this kind of harm on them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jessica, thank you for being here.

[Paul Scheer]

Very briefly, before we wrap, I'm just gonna say, everybody, please watch Paper Girls. Please watch Paper Girls on Amazon Prime.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's great. The book is amazing. It's a great faithful adaptation of it. It's great.

[Paul Scheer]

Read the comics. Brian K. Vaughn, Cliff Chang. Watch the show. The young female actors are absolutely incredible. The show is fantastic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm gonna plug that. Quentin Tarantino is on Unspooled, so check that out. If you have not listened to Unspooled, it has a little less. A little less yelling than this episode.

[Paul Scheer]

And Tarantino's on it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We talk about Richard Lester's three and four musketeers and five musketeers and another Musketeers, five movies we all watched. It was pretty great. Thank you, Molly. Thank you, Cody. Thank you, Devin. Thank you, Avril Hallie. Thank you, Nate Kiley. Thank you, Zach Mcaleese. Thank you, July Diaz and Kyle Waldro. Without all these people, the show would not work. Without Spectrum, we almost. We wouldn't be able to do a show. Thank you, everybody, for buying a ticket, telling your friends about the show. It really helps. And I hope you can see us on the road this week as we start our tour. Check out Jason's bedbugs from a distance.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hey, it's Kelly Ripa. And if you don't know, I Have a podcast where I get to say whatever I want. Hold on, Let me get a shovel

[Paul Scheer]

and a body bag.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I envision doing a podcast with the conversations that happen in my dressing room

[June Diane Raphael]

off camera, where people feel free to talk. No hair, no makeup.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is my kind of job.

[June Diane Raphael]

Only Kelly Ripa can ask me these questions. I'm flipping the script and saying what's

[Jessica St. Clair]

really on my mind.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're seeing a different side of you. It's a little bit more honest.

[Jessica St. Clair]

When the cameras go off, the real fun begins.

[June Diane Raphael]

Get my hair done over here. Hey, this is an awesome off camera

[Jessica St. Clair]

podcast, so it doesn't even matter. It's unfiltered conversations and unexpected confessions.

[Paul Scheer]

My mom says, woody, I knew you're dead.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Stop the presses. I would like to volunteer to administer any and all DNA tests.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe that should be part of the show.

[June Diane Raphael]

Let's talk off camera with me Kelly Ripoff. You just put that in the universe.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Listen and follow wherever you get your podcast.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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