Masters of the Universe w/ Tatiana Maslany (HDTGM Matinee)

Summary

Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? - Episode: Masters of the Universe w/ Tatiana Maslany

Hosts: Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, June Diane Raphael
Guest: Tatiana Maslany
Release Date: April 8, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode and Guest

In this special matinee episode of How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, and June Diane Raphael dive deep into the infamous 1987 film Masters of the Universe. Joining them is Emmy-nominated actress Tatiana Maslany, known for her acclaimed role in Orphan Black. The trio welcomes Tatiana warmly, expressing their admiration for her work and enthusiasm for her insights into the cult classic.

Notable Quote:

• Paul Scheer [02:58]: "We are huge fans. We're so excited that you're here."

Overview of Masters of the Universe

The discussion begins with the hosts addressing the long-awaited availability of Masters of the Universe on Netflix, a film that had been notoriously difficult to access for years. They express frustration over its unavailability and delight at finally being able to dissect it.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Mantzoukas [02:16]: "This movie, Masters of the Universe, has been a movie that people have told us to do for a very long time and has been unavailable."

Plot and Character Analysis

The hosts and Tatiana delve into the convoluted plot of the movie, highlighting its abrupt transitions between Eternia and suburban America. They critique the film's inconsistent narrative, particularly the lack of continuity regarding the characters' abilities and the mysterious portal mechanics.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [07:38]: "Can anyone succinctly describe what the plot of this movie was? Oh, wow, that's a tough."
• Tatiana Maslany [07:05]: "So happy they did though. I'm so happy."

They scrutinize the portrayal of He-Man, noting his underwhelming strength and lackluster combat skills compared to the iconic character from the original series. The use of a sword as a shield and reliance on firearms are cited as departures from He-Man's established character traits.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [05:40]: "He doesn't even seem that strong."
• Paul Scheer [05:54]: "He uses his sword more as a shield."

Costume and Production Design

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the film's costume design and production values. They critique Skeletor's mask, which obscures his expressions, and Evil Lyn's cumbersome costume that restricted the actress's movements. The discomfort and impracticality of the costumes are highlighted as contributing factors to the film's shortcomings.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [06:15]: "She uses her sword as a shield and then uses her gun as her weapon, which is a bizarre thing."
• Paul Scheer [14:17]: "Meg Foster's costume weighed 45 pounds, and the actress sustained bruises."

Character Dynamics and Performances

The dynamics between the characters, especially the interactions between He-Man, Skeletor, and the supporting cast, are examined. The hosts express confusion over character motivations and relationships, particularly the subplot involving Courtney Cox's character and her parents' tragic fate. Jason praises Frank Langella's portrayal of Skeletor, describing it as Shakespearean and compelling despite the film's flaws.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [25:07]: "Frank Langella is awesome in this movie. ... He made Skeletor this, like, Shakespearean villain."
• Tatiana Maslany [24:38]: "She also falls for the mirage of her dead mother."

Plot Inconsistencies and Logical Flaws

The episode critically addresses numerous plot inconsistencies, such as the unexplained mechanics of the portal device and the abrupt time travel elements introduced late in the film. The hosts debate the lack of logical progression and the film's inability to justify its fantastical elements convincingly.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [26:07]: "How did they even plan around the portal?"
• Paul Scheer [56:09]: "How is this whole He-Man movie about the key, about the keyboard thing?"

Humor and Satirical Commentary

Throughout the conversation, the hosts infuse humor and satire, poking fun at the movie's absurdities. They draw parallels to other sci-fi and fantasy films, highlighting how Masters of the Universe often mimics successful tropes without the necessary polish or coherence.

Notable Quotes:

• Paul Scheer [57:42]: "There's just so much going on. It's like a cacophony of nonsense."
• Jason Mantzoukas [57:17]: "He have the key, why don't they all just jam out?"

Fan Reception and Cult Status

Despite the film's many flaws, the discussion acknowledges its enduring cult status and the passionate fanbase that continues to celebrate it. The hosts and Tatiana reflect on how certain elements, like Frank Langella's performance and the nostalgic value of the film, contribute to its lasting appeal.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Mantzoukas [66:12]: "I think this film is one of the best superhero, fantasy movies out there."
• Paul Scheer [66:21]: "We're gonna be okay with Masters."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts summarize their mixed feelings about Masters of the Universe, balancing their critiques with an appreciation for its unique place in cinematic history. They encourage listeners to watch the film themselves and form their own opinions, embracing its flaws as part of its charm.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Mantzoukas [66:16]: "But I think this film is one of the best superhero, fantasy movies out there."

Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with the hosts and Tatiana sharing personal anecdotes related to nostalgic movie watching and the unintentional comedy of memorizing film dialogues. They express gratitude towards their guest and listeners, teasing future episodes and collaborations.

Notable Quote:

• Tatiana Maslany [75:00]: "I'm glad it's available on DVD. Five stars."

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Key Takeaways:

• Masters of the Universe is dissected for its plot inconsistencies, poor character development, and problematic costume design.
• Frank Langella's performance as Skeletor is lauded despite the film's overall shortcomings.
• The hosts blend humor with critical analysis, highlighting both the movie's flaws and its cult appeal.
• Tatiana Maslany provides valuable insights, connecting the film's elements to broader cinematic tropes and personal experiences.

Overall, this episode of How Did This Get Made? offers an in-depth and entertaining examination of a beloved yet flawed film, providing listeners with both laughs and thoughtful critique.

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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Question how did this get Made?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hello people of Earth, and welcome to how did this Get Made? Old school theme song. Please welcome my two co hosts, Jason Mantzoukas. How are you Jason?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm good. Paul, how are you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Very good. And June, Diane Rayfield.

[June Diane Raphael]

How are you, June?

[Tatiana Maslany]

I'm doing great. How are you, Paul?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Really good. I wanna remind you guys, if you've not been reading them, Blake Harris has been writing. Amazing. How did this get made? Companion pieces. He's interviewing real people from these movies, talking to them and getting great stories. Masters of the Universe is the same story there. Check it out on Slash Film. Here we go. We have a very special guest today. Please welcome to the program Emmy nominee. At this point, Emmy nominee Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black. We are huge fans. We're so excited that you're here.

[Nick Weiger]

I'm huge fans of this pod. I'm a few huge fans of this podcast.

[Paul Scheer]

Recording this on Emmy weekend.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I love it. We could technically, in a couple days when this gets released, we could be saying Emmy winner. We could be really.

[Nick Weiger]

You know, I highly doubt it.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Nick Weiger]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Tatiana Maslany]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Nick Weiger]

Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is gonna be very exciting. Unfortunately, it's coming out after the Emmys, so that contest is really messed up. This movie, Masters of the Universe, has been a movie that people have told us to do for a very long time and has been unavailable. And it finally came out on Netflix.

[Paul Scheer]

I can't imagine why this movie wasn't available to watch just easily.

[Nick Weiger]

It still wasn't available on Canadian Netflix.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

P.S.

[Nick Weiger]

No. I had to buy this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, we thank you. Thanks you on this film. This movie is.

[Paul Scheer]

Consider yourselves lucky.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah, I do now. I own it in Canada. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, now it's gonna make a really nice piece in your bookcase of DVDs. Just Masters of the Universe right up there. This movie is to me. And I know we're gonna probably upset some Die Hard he man fans, but has nothing to do with he man at all, really. I mean, like, anything that I remember of an Orko and Italian, I don't.

[Nick Weiger]

Know, the he man mythology.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Nick Weiger]

This is my intro to it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So I was like.

[Nick Weiger]

I just took it at face value. Like, this is what he is.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, interesting because the first shot of he man, like, the first kind of the first time we see him after we meet Skeletor, he looks just Disinterested. Yeah, just like. It's like, the strangest reaction. He's just like, yeah, well, this brings me. He doesn't even want to be there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It brings me to my first point, which is he man seems to be not spectacular at anything.

[Nick Weiger]

His fight style is, like, marked at like. It's like a rehearsal. Like, we're just kind of gonna walk through the motions.

[Paul Scheer]

It's slow and deliberate.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Like, 50% do this at 50% is he man's. I mean, are his. I also don't know he man's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We have to only base it on what we're watching, so I guess.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Okay. But he's just strong.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But he doesn't even seem that strong. He doesn't seem.

[Tatiana Maslany]

No, he doesn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He doesn't seem that much stronger than anyone that he fights. He doesn't seem like his sword work is any much better.

[Nick Weiger]

He just kind of holds it in the air.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

To be fair, he uses the sword more. More than using the sword to cut down people, he uses it to deflect laser blast and to hold in the other hand from the hand that he's holding a gun in. He uses shooting guns.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Always a lot of gun shooting. He uses his sword as a shield.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then uses his gun as his weapon, which is a bizarre thing.

[Paul Scheer]

I did not. I did not play with He Man. The cartoons were not anything I watched, but I don't remember him having a laser gun as part of his setup.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It also felt like he was just.

[Nick Weiger]

Kind of picking those up off the ground. Like it wasn't something he had. It was like, oh, fucking scavengers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it was like playing a game of Halo. Like, you run around and be like, oh, pick up gun.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Was this considered like a He man movie?

[Paul Scheer]

Like, yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, this is the only. This is the He's He Man.

[Paul Scheer]

The he man movie.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Live action he man.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Again, I don't know He Man. I don't feel connected to him as a character, but I feel badly.

[Paul Scheer]

But do you now?

[Tatiana Maslany]

This was it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, but here's the thing. The end of the movie, spoiler alert. But the end of the movie, he does take the sword back and goes, I have the power. Which is not the he man saying, but yeah. He says, by the power.

[Paul Scheer]

Isn't that the end of he man saying, by the power of Grayskull.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He goes, I have the power.

[Paul Scheer]

I have the power.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, okay.

[Paul Scheer]

I think that is his power.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Twice in his.

[Paul Scheer]

I think so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the power of Grayskull, I have the power but he. But even when he does that, it's the first time that he has done that and he had the sword the entire time. I don't understand what. That gave him. The power that seems to be more.

[Paul Scheer]

It was giving him the power that Skeletor was trying to steal, which is.

[Nick Weiger]

The power of the universe.

[Paul Scheer]

Like that cosmic power kind of thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, which brings me to my next question, which is, can anyone succinctly describe what the plot of this movie was? Oh, wow, that's a tough.

[Nick Weiger]

I know. The emotional journey of the teens. Like, I feel like Courtney Cox's character.

[Paul Scheer]

Was Courtney Cox in this movie. So in the movie, she's like 100%.

[Tatiana Maslany]

100% in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I feel like she's giving. I mean, she is committed to this character, which is. I mean, I love. Like sometimes when you look at, like the cast of Friends, they did do a lot of weird things. Like Jennifer Aniston was in Leprechaun.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like Courtney Cox was in Masters of.

[Paul Scheer]

The Universe, which also has a Leprechaun esque character.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah. This movie.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So what is her emotional journey, though?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because. Let's get out.

[Nick Weiger]

Well, the thing is, she lost her parents in a plane crash. That her dad was the pilot, and.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was just to go to a beach, which seemed really close. Like, we're going to the beach in a plane.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I think it was. First of all, we see the house that she lives in with her parents. It's modest at best. It is very modest.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So her dad is not.

[Paul Scheer]

We get what you're saying. I mean, the subtext of that is she's like a poor, gross person. Super gross.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's a disgusting, garbage poor person who wears onesie pajamas.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Her parents cannot afford a private plane.

[Paul Scheer]

No, no. They're flying like a propeller. Her dad is like a propeller plane pilot. I think.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, I think. I think June's saying that he can only afford, like, a remote control airplane at best.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Even then. No, I have to be totally honest.

[Paul Scheer]

I agree.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's break it down.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Flying as a hobby.

[Paul Scheer]

Her dad is wearing glasses.

[Tatiana Maslany]

For rich people. The better people of the planet.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure.

[Paul Scheer]

Society' chosen ones.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Absolutely.

[Paul Scheer]

We're going to get a lot of feedback on who and who. Who's able to fly?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, look. I mean, look.

[Paul Scheer]

And who should be able to fly?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This goes out to the white people.

[Paul Scheer]

Out of our skies.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Poor people, by the way, to rent to. First of all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe that's why they crash.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And to. She seemingly takes the keys in a hanger.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Hanger costs, expensive hangar. It's like buying a boat.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kevin Hart can afford it. Not her dumb parents.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yeah. They live in a very modest home. So. Okay, so.

[Paul Scheer]

But in a pretty nice suburb, a pretty nice little town. Very idyllic, kind of.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It's fine.

[Nick Weiger]

For gross people.

[Paul Scheer]

It's fine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June's really changed, guys.

[Paul Scheer]

It's fine. It might as well be Detroit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June right now is burning money as she's talking.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I do think it goes to her character's journey, because she is supposed to be just a girl who's waitressing for some extra and wants to get out of this town, this Podunk town. And so in that scenario, her parents don't own a private plane.

[Nick Weiger]

No, they do not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, by the way, why overcomplicate it? Just say they got into a car accident, right? I mean, a plane to fly to a beach.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I was so ready for the scene in which, like, they justified why they were in a flight. Because I thought when they went into that portal, they were going to zoom past their parents midair.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What?

[Nick Weiger]

That makes more sense to me than what happened, Titana.

[Paul Scheer]

It does?

[Nick Weiger]

Yes, absolutely. Because it's wild.

[Paul Scheer]

Makes more sense that you both anticipated that we would see them flying in midair next to the plane, because.

[Nick Weiger]

Grab them, grab them, grab them.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Wait.

[Nick Weiger]

Like, kind of pull out your nest.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And get them in there and then all head out together into the other.

[Paul Scheer]

Are they gonna grab them out of.

[Tatiana Maslany]

The plane or just grab the plane? Cars, by the way, cars are going through that portal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Oh, yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yes, they could.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So you think the parents are continually in this portal of the airplane.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I thought for sure we were gonna find them, like, midair and they were gonna exit on the other side, which.

[Nick Weiger]

Is why I would have put them in the air.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Why?

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah, why? Unless to use it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yes, it was insane.

[Paul Scheer]

That was insane. Yes, that was insane that they didn't.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Do that, in my opinion.

[Nick Weiger]

You know what I loved about that side Story was the introduction of it, where it cuts to, like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

After, like, the cute banter, like, over chicken wings or something, between Courteney Cox and her boyfriend.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

Kevin. Kevin, Sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Who's the real hero of the movie. Cause he's a man played by.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So great.

[Nick Weiger]

And then it cuts to, like, a wide shot of just the car, and she goes, I really wanna go say bye to my parents. He goes, yeah, sure. And it's just like, okay, I wanna go to the graveyard to say bye to my parents. Yeah, sure. It's just like okay, that's the next thing, the next scene that we do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They also, by the way, when they're at that gravesite, they're just looking at the gravesite and then it's like a really emotional moment and they're like, oh, cool, look, this thing just fell out of the sky. Oh, wow. And they start playing with it immediately. All emotion drops.

[Paul Scheer]

The thing is like, beep, boop, beep. And he's like. It's a Japanese synthesizer done. That fell from the decision made, by the way. I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, just in case you are confused. Yes. This movie starts in Eternia, which is the he man land. And then quickly and without any real Skeletor.

[Paul Scheer]

And all of those, like all of the components of He Man, I'm assuming, Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

For the first five minutes. And then clicks over to just present day America.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So happy they did though. I'm so happy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With no transition, it was like we're in it. We're in a rib shack.

[Paul Scheer]

And it's like. Yes. It was as if seven minutes into Zardoz.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

He finds himself in. Sean Connery finds himself in like 1984 suburban America and is just running around with a rifle in his weird red diaper going like Zardoz. Like it's that jarring a juxtaposition.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And they don't seem. They don't a. Seem to be trying to hide being in America.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they don't know where they are. They just know they're on another planet.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Okay, this is my big problem. They don't seem. Have they done this type of time traveling before through portals?

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And has anyone in present day 1984 or whatever year it was, seen anyone from Eternia? Yeah. Cause nobody seems that surprised.

[Paul Scheer]

No. Yeah. Oh, no. That there's like a real life Gremlin walking around. Yes.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That guy. Nobody. That guy.

[Paul Scheer]

That guy.

[Nick Weiger]

I just kept thinking Jar Jar Binks for some reason from his introduction.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie is. The production values are so terrible that I kept worrying for the actor in that prosthetic. Cause it moved so little. I was like, he must be dying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, that's Billy Barty, famous Billy Barty, who's been in a lot of costumes like that. But by the way, these costumes hurt the actors very badly.

[Paul Scheer]

I felt bad for Frank Langella. Skeletor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I think his is the one that doesn't have that many problems. Cause Meg Foster's costume, she's the woman who fought around with He Man.

[Nick Weiger]

Evil Lyn. Oh, no.

[Paul Scheer]

The other One evil.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're right. Evil Lyn. Meg Foster's Evil Lyn. Her costume weighed 45 pounds, and the actress sustained bruises to her groin and breastplate. She constructed a fiberglass and restricted her movements a great deal, which is why she's never shown sitting. And she said the discomfort from the costume helped inform her performance. But the weight and design of the costume made her puff out her chest during every take, which generated the character's slinky posture.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, you know what? I use a bruised groin all the time when I act. I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna use this bruised groin.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But I'm sorry to go back to the parents. I just need to for one second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Courtney Cox parents.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So let me understand. They were all planning to go to the beach that day?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

No. No. I don't think so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

They wanted them to do something with her and stay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought they were like, we're gonna go to the beach. And she's like, I'm gonna stay home and study. But she was really gonna stay home and make out with her boyfriend.

[Paul Scheer]

I see.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I see. That's what happened.

[Nick Weiger]

But was it that they were gonna not get on the plane if they were gonna go to the beach? Yes, that was my understanding. It was like, let's go to the beach or we're gonna get on this flight. For some reason, I thought at the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

End of the movie, they go, we're gon beach. And they're like, no, no, we can't fly to the beach.

[Paul Scheer]

That's. Yes, that is what they said at the end.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think that she just thought if she was on the plane with them or stopped. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I mean. Cause now she's creating a final destination situation where maybe now death will come after the parents.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But, see, this is the issue I had with the film. There was no emotional journey for her. If she had somehow made the wrong decision in the beginning that caused her parents death and then come back to make such a different decision.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, she came. The decision that she made.

[Tatiana Maslany]

The decision she made was like, oh, don't get on the plane. But there was no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, right. She just stopped them from.

[Tatiana Maslany]

She's still with Kevin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She literally steals their. Like, it seemed to me like their plane keys and runs away. And ran away.

[Paul Scheer]

Father says, give me back those keys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then she just ran away from the house. It wasn't like, I'm gonna spend time with you. Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

In, like, a Laura Ashley.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It looked like little house on the prairie. Like, oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

We haven't explained that. What we're talking about is, at end of the movie, after they save Eternia and defeat Skeletor, the weird little troll guy sends them back to Earth. But before Courteney Cox's parents have died, so they're still alive. So that's why she's. Anyway, who cares?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, so the movie obviously starts off and I did. And for the beginning of it, we were looking at each other and going, I didn't understand what was going on. There is actually, like, the dialogue. I pulled a clip of this dialogue here, which is just the nonsense words of. This is like the dialogue in the first five minutes here he man. I shall point a four chromons to moonrise at Grayskull. We better find the key and we better find it fast. What's your plan?

[Paul Scheer]

When we find the key, Gwildor will set the coordinates for Grayskull. We'll use the element of surprise.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, sure. We'll drop right into the throne room, fight off 2 or 3,000 of Skeletor's crack troops, break into the force field and free the Sorceress.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If we're going to split up, we've got to synchronize our personal locators.

[June Diane Raphael]

You both ready?

[Paul Scheer]

And if you find the key, activate the source. Poor Dolph Lundgren.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

Poor Dolph Lundgren? I feel like all of his lines, they're like, okay, he can't say more than, like five words in a row. Well, here's the buddy. You're gonna do all the talking. Other guy with a mustache.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, here's the thing, too. Apparently, he did not know English during this film. Oh, really? Blake Harris, who's been writing our things, actually interviewed his. Who coached him. He was not supposed to be. His voice was not supposed to be in the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, like Hercules in New York.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. And they were gonna give him in his contract. It was. He had three chances to dub it and if it didn't work, then they would get another actor. But they always intended to get another actor. But then the movie lost all of its financing and they were like, oh, we gotta rush this out. So they didn't have time to redub the movie, so they just left it in. Wow. And that's where you get this performance. He was sweet. I mean, he was just like, fresh off the boat. It wasn't like. It was like, body type.

[Paul Scheer]

Fresh off the boat on abc.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Check.

[Nick Weiger]

Was so adr.

[Paul Scheer]

Very subtle marketing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, don't worry about it.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, that is very subtle marketing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I love that guy Mitch on the show. He's funny.

[Paul Scheer]

That is the character you play.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, you know, it's so funny, I didn't even think about that.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow, that is crass.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, I just, I know that I. Yeah, well, it's weird. I mean, I don't know. I'll stay tuned after that to watch the league on fxx. You're on that show, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I don't know what you mean.

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

He man also disappears for a large chunk of the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's the thing I wrote. I was like, there's a part of the. What I was shocked about was, here's a movie about he man and the Masters of the Universe kind of mythology and all this stuff. But most of it takes place in suburban America on, like, Main street, where every once in a while, a huge battle will break out between Skeletor's forces and he man and his guys. And there are never townspeople around anywhere. Like, a war is happening in their tiny town.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, they also have spaceships and.

[Paul Scheer]

Everybody'S dressed like Darth Vader.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

And the music is very Star Wars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, it felt like it was.

[Paul Scheer]

They're ripping off Star wars everywhere for no reason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, it is so. I mean, yeah, they are straight up black Stormtroopers. I mean, they're just. Instead of white Stormtroopers, they're black stormtroopers. That's it. There's no real difference to them.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Did anyone else feel also that we were getting set up for he man and Courteney Cox's character to find love?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, really?

[Nick Weiger]

Oh, I thought so too, in that.

[Tatiana Maslany]

First scene to have an issue with Kevin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it was like, Kevin was a bad boyfriend, but he wasn't a bad boyfriend. He seemed to be a pretty good guy who's really into music.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what, though? I didn't like. I didn't like the. Every time something happened to them, Kevin was like, okay, I'm in charge of it. You know, like, they find. She's like, hey, look at this thing over here. And he's like, oh, cool. Japanese synthesizer. You stay here. I'm gonna go take care of it. You stay in the school. You do. She is consistently marginalized. And then at the end, he man is like. They have this big moment. She gets hit in battle. She takes the hit, like, all this stuff. And he man is like, goodbye, Courtney Cox character. And then he says to Kevin, you take care of her. Come on, man.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And by the way, she also falls for the mirage of her dead mother.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoa.

[Nick Weiger]

Big time.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, how do you not know that there is sorcery going on there?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She bought it so quickly because her mom's like. We're like. I wrote it down. I think she was like, we do secret work. Yeah, we've been doing secret work. It was not set up that her mom was, like, involved. It seemed like her mom could have been anything, but she's like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. My mom was doing secret work, had to fake her death.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Upset me. I mean, the whole thing with the parents, you know, it was pretty, I think, emotionally manipulative.

[Paul Scheer]

You think?

[Nick Weiger]

Oh, my God.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It's just like, I can't watch this. This is just.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will tell you. I will tell you one thing, that when we were in Skeletor's castle, by the way, I think Frank Langella is awesome in this movie. And clearly, I think just wrote his own. He made Skeletor this, like, Shakespearean villain.

[Nick Weiger]

Totally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, his speeches are amazing.

[Tatiana Maslany]

His voice is amazing.

[Paul Scheer]

Didn't you feel like the Skele mask made him look like Jack Palance? At the beginning of the movie, I was like, oh, it's Jack Palance. And then I was like, oh, no, that's just. The mask looks like Jack Palance. It's actually Frank Langelli.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like how they took the William Shatner mask and made the Halloween mask, Jason Voorhees. So, yeah, this is, like, for Legend of Curly's Gold. And they just use it for Frank.

[Paul Scheer]

Langella or not Jason Voorhees.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I'm still not clear on what that. What that machine does. The key, the Key.

[Paul Scheer]

The one it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

What it does and why.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I didn't get any of it. I didn't get why the portal opened. I didn't know why. Now he's the master of the universe. Right.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It actually seemed to me that the bigger deal was taking that sword and putting it in that special sword slot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, right, the sword slot. That had like a weird alarm on it. Like little blinking lights. Like, you can't take the sword out now. So the thing that always gets me when I looked at Skeletor's castle is, you know, I think, you know, for movie sets, obviously you want it to be big and bold, but I didn't like how many balconies there were without railings. I felt that would be a very dangerous castle to work in. It was too. Everything was too elevated.

[Paul Scheer]

There's no children in the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But still, I think, like, being the edge of a building, I just think I wouldn't want to be walking there and just, you know, from texting or something. Just walk off the side. Yeah. It's a poorly designed castle. But he was also in the Skeletor castle, which his throne was in front of the portal that allowed him to be the master of the universe. So it seemed like. I don't know if he was just squatting on that or like.

[Nick Weiger]

Cause that's when it opened up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When it opened up him up? Yeah. It just seemed like.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah. I wondered if that had always been.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There in the castle. That portal opened up behind him. But it seemed like that was built into the castle.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Oh.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Maybe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know.

[Nick Weiger]

I didn't understand that when he harnessed the power of the universe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Nick Weiger]

His aim, like, went out the window hard. Like he was like all powerful, but just couldn't quite zap. He man with the power of the universe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But the power of the universe brings about one of the worst. One of the worst fight scenes I've ever seen. So much so that they do it in the dark. The two leads finally fight in the dark and someone just has a flashlight on them to show their mediocre at best stunt work. Why not just get two pros in there? Frank Langella's in a full mask. Dolph Lundgren is a monster. Y huge, you know, bulked up guy. Like, just get. Have one good fight. It's in the dark. It is literally in the dark. You have to squint, I guess, like through shadows. This is a pretty badass fight. Nothing.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I wanted to know more about the team, the he man team, because the old Guy Mustachio.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I wish his name was Mustachio.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So there's the old guy and then there's the woman and then there's the. Whatever his name is. The creature.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Grwildor or something.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Grilldorld. Grildor, who everyone loves. No matter what Grildor did, they're like, oh, grill door. Yeah, they're laughing at him. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Did it again. Grilldorf.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I'm so excited about that, though, because when they first got. When they first went through the portal and they ended up, I don't know, wherever they were.

[Paul Scheer]

He was next to the cow.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yes, next to the cow. That little creature had his face stuck in like a pond and he kind.

[Nick Weiger]

Of became a dog. Like, they were like. He was like. Like shook himself off. And they're like, whoa, Gildor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then they're laughing at him like, oh, you almost drowned hysterically.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, it's basically like, oh, your arms don't work enough to even pick yourself up off the ground. You would drown face first in a puddle if we weren't able to get you because apparently your limbs aren't strong enough to remove you from the sad.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's really sad, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, just to just draw one, One quick comparison here. From my knowledge of he man as a child, I haven't really revisited, but He Man's sidekick was a character named Orko, who was like a wizard. You never saw his face. He wore, like a hat and he had like. He floated.

[Paul Scheer]

Didn't he man have some sort of animal with him, too?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He had a tiger. Yeah, cat.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah, cat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're right.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

What about she Ra, the woman who.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a side character. I mean, she had her own show.

[Paul Scheer]

That's like the red Sonja to his Conan. Which these are unrelated. Which these two things would be unrelated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought they were a father.

[Paul Scheer]

To even describe. To even bring up Conan Barbarian in reference to he man would be almost impossible because what would they have in common?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, they're so.

[Paul Scheer]

What would they have in common?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So, so different.

[Paul Scheer]

What about Conan? I could say, what about Conan in space? Oh, yeah, that works. We'll do Conan in space. We can't call it Conan, though. Okay. He Man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He Man.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I'm saying they were father. Daughter. I don't think they were.

[Nick Weiger]

I think they were.

[Tatiana Maslany]

They were.

[Nick Weiger]

Cause she at one point was like, father.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, right. Yeah. Really?

[Nick Weiger]

Side note. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, what was the side plot of her being a vegetarian?

[Paul Scheer]

They all were.

[Nick Weiger]

Oh, I didn't realize that on the planet. I think in the future, everyone's a vegetarian.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why not set that up just, like, the smallest amount, like, just so we can get a little bit. Just like, wow. They do things weird here. They didn't seem to be surprised at anything.

[Paul Scheer]

They're eating ribs. They're eating ribs.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I don't know if he's eating meat.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. In this movie, Grilldorf, Grilldor uses wherever they're from when they get to Earth, they find ribs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Their first mission is to get food. They use a giant grappling hook to steal someone's ribs out of the backseat.

[Paul Scheer]

Of their car while they're making it out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. And then Grildor doesn't know how to eat ribs, so he just drinks the barbecue sauce down.

[Nick Weiger]

I was so worried about that actor because all I could think of was, like, the gravy always being in his mask, just, like, sitting in the pocket of his face.

[Paul Scheer]

Again, the rest of the shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Another costume thing. The guy who played Beastman in this, his teeth were so large that he was unable to close his mouth. So when he would just drool, he would just drool down his costume and just weigh him down.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, apparently the added weight of drool. He's like, I have three quarts of drool in my boots right now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then the other guy, the dad, or we think the dad, he also had a lot of sweat in his boots. And he said that every day he would dump out sweat from his boots. Cause it was. The costumes were so confined.

[Paul Scheer]

He was wearing what looked like a children's Halloween costume of Spaceman.

[Nick Weiger]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what I mean? Like, he was wearing utter nonsense. Mustachio.

[Nick Weiger]

And she was wearing a metal thong.

[Paul Scheer]

Did anybody notice that? That was the only thing I was cool with in this movie.

[Nick Weiger]

Practical.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, she. I mean that I never also. I don't understand why he man. And again, we're going to this idea.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That I did think he man looked great.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right.

[Nick Weiger]

So oily.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So oily. But I do think. I think he's a beautiful man.

[Nick Weiger]

He looks like Cillian Murphy.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Oh, damn.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's interesting, because there's a picture of Cillian Murphy, and I actually look a lot like him. And when my dad saw the movie Sunshine.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I look like Cillian Murphy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Your dad thought you. You were the actor.

[Tatiana Maslany]

My dad was, first of all, the lead of, like, a major motion picture.

[Paul Scheer]

And had never mentioned it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And he just happened to see in the movies one day. So that's its own story. But he thought that I was the lead of the movie, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm just pulling up a picture of this show.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He's a man. I'm now realizing there's some sort of similarity. When I was a brunette, there was.

[Paul Scheer]

When I was a brunette, it was possible that I might have been confused with Cillian Murphy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[Nick Weiger]

You're positing by my father?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, by your father. The person who arguably knows you best.

[Paul Scheer]

Sweetheart, I've just seen the entire movie that you're in. I loved it. That's crazy. What? I know.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It is crazy. It is crazy. I mean, you and your dad have.

[Paul Scheer]

Very interesting theories on movies.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I know people make fun of their parents, like, oh, my dad calls Matt Damon, Matt Damian, like, those kind of, like, disconnects. But my dad thought that I was a man. A male actor who was the lead of a movie playing a male character.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, did he think you were like. Like having a separate male career that you were, like, you couldn't talk about?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why didn't she tell me she was the lead of this movie?

[Tatiana Maslany]

He has knowledge of things. Like, he's just like, well, you're. I know you're in movies and tv. Like, why couldn't it be you? In some ways, I took it as a compliment, because I think he thinks that should be me. Sure, maybe it is. And he heard me talking about stuff. Maybe this is the project.

[Nick Weiger]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

I love that this is the project. This project where you're.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But it also goes to show.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But it also goes to show your dad might have just like. My question is, did your dad think that Cillian Murphy was a woman that entire movie? Would that make his rewatching of it interesting? Because if he thought it was you, he may have a whole different.

[Paul Scheer]

He thought it was a female character. I just didn't understand why they called the main woman in the movie Mike.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Paul Scheer]

That is unbelievable.

[Nick Weiger]

So outrageous.

[Paul Scheer]

I just like the idea of you dead. Watch it and be like, ah, June.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He also gets really caught up on, like, do you remember when he saw the Departed? And he was so upset because he felt like all the actors looked exactly the same?

[Paul Scheer]

He feels that dad might suffer from face blindness.

[Nick Weiger]

Face blindness? Yeah, definitely.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He feels that they should look so different because otherwise he can't follow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, the good news with this movie is that he would have no problem because they're so diverse, these characters. Karg. Karg, Kharg.

[Paul Scheer]

Karg. I wrote Karg is my favorite.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Karg. Me too. Karg, Kharg.

[Nick Weiger]

Exclamation.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have a Karg.

[Paul Scheer]

And then you spelled it with a C. I spelled it with a K.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wrote Karg, leader, question mark. Like this. The smallest, most diminutive character of this entire world. Like, and you're their leader. He's like, go get them. Get them.

[Paul Scheer]

He's like the head of the bounty hunters or whatever in. They have, like, a straight from Star wars introduction of the. You know, when they see. When. When they introduce the bounty hunters on the. On Beast man. And they do it too. Here are the bounty hunters, and they're. Each and every one of them are ludicrous.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Nick Weiger]

Blade Frogman's costume was amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was.

[Nick Weiger]

And I was like, why did he get killed off so fast? Everyone else's mask is, like, restrictive. You can't tell their mouth is moving.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, they should have killed Beastman instantly.

[Nick Weiger]

Immediately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They just put ammonia in his face.

[Nick Weiger]

By the way, where did that ammonia come from? Why was there ammonia at a sound check at a high school grad?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, by the way, that's minutes before they just have a fight in an abandoned box factory. Like, they run out of the school, and they're just in just a place with empty boxes as everyone's getting tossed to death.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I thought for sure that when I saw that the senior ball was going. The theme was the fantasy, I thought for sure we were gonna do a really cool sequence where these fantastical characters were kind of in the. And in the. And that just never happened.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, that's a missed opportunity.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's a real misstep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I think it was probably extras casting. They just didn't have anybody, like, no.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Extras in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's leaving before. She's leaving before the senior dance or whatever or graduation or graduation. And it didn't make any sense, but yet she's like. She go to the sound check and she's like, just let me be here for a sec.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Courtney Cox is. Yeah, go ahead.

[Nick Weiger]

No, the sound check was a solo sound check.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

At night with no one checking the sound.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just him basically pre hooking up his instruments. Like, I'll leave this here for tomorrow night. Tomorrow night we'll really get into it.

[Nick Weiger]

And then vibing on the little Japanese synthesizer and by the way, by himself.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So was he just sound checking for, like. He seemed to display keyboards.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I don't know. Can you sound check on your own? Or you need someone else to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You need somebody in the back to.

[Paul Scheer]

Be, like, raising levels to be, okay, a little bit more. Give me more in the monitor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, this Is their last date. Like this was set up as their last date.

[Paul Scheer]

Drive her to the airport or whatever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And she's like, let me go to the gravesite. Let's do your sound check. And then I'll leave forever. Like, that was a real Roman.

[Paul Scheer]

And then they'll check that. In the middle of that, she's like. He's like, you know what? Even though you're about to leave, I'm gonna bring this Japanese synthesizer that fell from the sky down to Charlie's to see what he thinks of it. Let's not do that together. She's like, I'm gonna stay here and say goodbye to the school or whatever. So they split apart for a part of this last. Their last hour on Earth.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

By the way, also note that she has not packed up her parents house. Like, her plan seems to have been to just leave it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

To just simply walk away.

[Paul Scheer]

Just Incredible Hulk style. Like, duffel bag. Get out of there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just was reading one fact as you guys were talking about the guy who plays Saurod. We were talking about the guy who has the best costume. I think the reason why he was not too much in the film is because he was technically blind when he was in that costume. The prosthetics made him blind? No, I mean, not in real life. He could see.

[Paul Scheer]

He couldn't see.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He could not see. So he was blind. So he had to do everything. In the movie, he wore contact lenses that were extremely painful and reduced his vision considerably. So during the action sequences, because of the dim lighting, he could not see it all and had to perform all of his stunts blind.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God. Whenever I see people in movies from this era with those wild contact lenses, I always am like, oh, they are miserable. Cause those were like basically just like £1 pieces of glass they would just shove into your eye.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

Hard contacts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's like. Yeah, like, that's when like, Jim Carrey had like a Marine on set to help him deal with pain for the Grinch. Because he had to put these contacts in that were like, super painful. So it was like a guy that was like talking him through the pain of old contacts.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, in order to then, like, action. And be the Grinch.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

There is. There's so much to kind of just.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Unpack Kevin for one second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure. Of course. Course.

[Paul Scheer]

So, master song. Master song.

[Tatiana Maslany]

So Kevin's journey at the end, he must recall and play the notes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yes.

[Nick Weiger]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I just play. Can I have him. Can I have him say. Say his pitch about this? This is Kevin's pitch. Here we go. Okay.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Wait a minute.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I've got it. I've got it. This is Kevin figuring out. That's it.

[Paul Scheer]

That's it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How did you do that? I don't know. I. I just. If I hear a tune a couple of times, I can usually remember it. Besides, it had a good hook. I was gonna use it. One of my songs, by the way, that's not also a talent. Like, if I hear a song a couple times, I can remember. Everybody can do that. So. Yes, go ahead.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, so in the beginning, he wants her to show up for his soundtrack. I guess my question is, are we supposed to believe that he is nervous about performing and is not confident in himself as a musician? And then by the end of the movie, he's able to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I think you're reading way more into this.

[Paul Scheer]

No, I actually think. I actually think what it is is that what they need is something that he happens to be able to do. Like, he has a secret. Like a secret, a tool that they need. He can remember a song because he's a musician. He's a keyboard player.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He wasn't in this clip. But at one point, he says to the creature, to the little troll, Grillor Grildor. He says, I don't know, gw. He says to him, gryffindor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Gryffindor.

[Paul Scheer]

Gryffindor. I think it's Gryffindor.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I wrote it to Glendale. Glendale Galleria. He says to Gwyneth Paltrow, you know, I'm scared to do it. I'm nervous to do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Does it.

[Paul Scheer]

That's about their first time having sex, though. Everybody else thinks that Kevin and Grildor are totally doing that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That would be the sequel that they find love.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Grildor. Are you kidding? That dude is hot, by the way, also, and good to go. Grildor's a party guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He can make a car in an instant. He find funny props and costumes.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, he is he man for a solid 40 minutes of this movie. He man is driving around suburban America in a 1958 Ford Impala.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like a pink.

[Paul Scheer]

Pink Ford Impala.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, it's crazy, with like a neon light on the back that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And there's no seeming need for it. They don't travel any distance faster.

[Paul Scheer]

It doesn't make them do anything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, they can't chase it. But all at the end, they kind of drive through a portal.

[Paul Scheer]

And then Skeletor has fucking spaceships. He's driving down Main Street. Little like small town America in a spaceship.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie, Skeletor is on a giant open air spaceship akin to a parade float.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That the good guys are like, hiding out on a roof. And this. And it's a big sneaker upper moment because Skeletor just rises up above them. But that's giant. It's like a plane landing on your head there. Ooh, where did you come from?

[Nick Weiger]

Why are they on the roof? There's been so much airplay. Like, so many people attacking from the air. They're like, where do we go?

[Tatiana Maslany]

The roof go up?

[Paul Scheer]

I think they go to the roof because that's the only way that the spaceship can appear to be flying because of the force. It's the perspective of the people on the roof. So it's just being held up by like forklift or whatever. So it looks like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, it does raise and lower like a forklift. And they just rip off Back to the Future in this with their hoverboards. They have like hover disks and people are flying around. Which goes to one of my theories. Whenever we do movies like this, there's always like a theory of like. Or for me, my theory is that when a bad movie is here, it's those flying like anything that's a hoverboard or a skateboard. Whenever there's a scene like that, they're like, kids will like this. We'll get them on a hover thing. But it's like he makes he man precariously on this, like, little hover thing. Was not even.

[Paul Scheer]

It didn't look cool.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Didn't look cool.

[Paul Scheer]

It didn't look cool at all. No.

[Nick Weiger]

He was so stiff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just so stiff on this little thing that looked like it was gonna teeter over. Get off it. Just run down the street.

[Paul Scheer]

Just run. You're like he man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And again, I just wanted to bring up this one thing about he man in his costume. Yes, I'm sure he looks great. But he.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, he looks A lot like me, because he looks like a. I think he's an attractive guy. I didn't do my own horn, but.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You did at one point just exclaim, he's sexy.

[Paul Scheer]

What about Dolph Lundgren? He's not sexy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will give you.

[Paul Scheer]

I will give you. He's good looking, he's handsome, his body's amazing, but he's not sexy at all.

[Nick Weiger]

What is his deal? Where is he from? Dolph Lund? Like, I don't know anything about him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know he's an MIT grad, so he's a super smart mathematician. That is the truth. He is from Sweden. And yeah, those are the two facts I know about him, is that he's super smart.

[Nick Weiger]

And is he just famous for he. Man, is that Rocky?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Rocky 4.

[Paul Scheer]

He was like the Russian who fought Ivan Dragov.

[Nick Weiger]

Right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Drago.

[Paul Scheer]

Drago. I'm sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, so I think that was his big claim to fame was like, Rocky iv and then he became a kind.

[Paul Scheer]

Of B actor in, like, these kind of big action. He was like one of the original Punishers, but.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, but, like, you know, like, he's.

[Paul Scheer]

Done a bunch of that kind of stuff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like Hugh. Yeah, he was in. So it was Rocky iv, Masters of the Universe, and then I think Red Scorpion was a big movie. And then it's all just been like. It just was a lot of, like, Men of War, Hidden Assassin, Silent Trigger, Blackjack, the Minion. So he's just become that guy.

[Paul Scheer]

I love those. Even those titles are perfectly generic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, the Trigger. Uh. Oh, guys, I just saw this. This is in post production for DOLPH Kindergarten Cop 2.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, interesting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Oh, he's also in the new Coen Brothers movie, Hail Caesar. So that's interesting. Yeah, good.

[Nick Weiger]

Can we talk about the cop?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Amazing.

[Nick Weiger]

Incredible performance. Like the most ticks I've ever seen an actor do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is amazing tongue work. This is the. For those of you who don't know, this is the principal from Back to the Future. This is Strickland from Back to the Future playing a very similar character in this. I mean, yeah, he. This cop is bananas.

[Tatiana Maslany]

This is my first question about the cop. Where do you think the movie is set? Like, where in America?

[Nick Weiger]

Cause his accent.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He's a New York cop. He's got a.

[Paul Scheer]

And he's dressed like a New York cop.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He's dressed in a very long leather trench coat, and he has a thick Bronx New York accent.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna guess it's like Middle America. I'm gonna guess like Ohio or absolutely.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Indiana. Where did he come from?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, he seemed like small town. Us.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, are we just naming states? Oh, boy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, this is like a. You guys are playing a really boring game of Password.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Pennsylvania, Illinois.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, God, it's every town, usa. But by the way, his energy and attitude is.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the South.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

His energy and attitude is of a real beaten down New York cop. Like, all right, come over here. I got dead kids in there. Like, you're coming with me. Like, where he should have been the cop of. I've never dealt with this. What's going on?

[Paul Scheer]

It should be like Andy Griffith. It should be just like, this never happens here. And instead he's like, all right, you're coming downtown in the middle.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wrote like. I was like, who am I? Who am I rooting for here? Who's the dick? Is it the cop or the boyfriend? Cause they both come at each other hard. Aggressively hard. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

But porno I've recently watched.

[Nick Weiger]

My favorite was when he saw the thing. The key.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The ketone.

[Nick Weiger]

Its thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

And we just had this. The best reaction shot in a movie I've ever seen was just him, like, tongue wriggling around in his mouth. Then, like, hand on face, like, twitching around. Like he just did every move. Any choice, he made it. Every choice. He made it. And they just let it. The longest shot of the movie, they let it live on him. They're like this sustains itself keep on going. Oh, my God, I loved it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He did everything.

[Nick Weiger]

He could do everything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know that, like, panic. If you're shooting something and you like, no one's calling. Cut. You're like, I guess I'll keep on going. Like, turning his own tie to spin. Like. And he goes like. He's really suspect of everybody until the end of the movie. Can we just hear. This is my favorite, my favorite part. So the day is saved. Skeletor is defeated.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they go from Earth back to Eternia in the Impala. The cop comes with them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. He's now fighting with laser guns too. And just picked up a laser gun.

[Nick Weiger]

Yep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, the town has been kind of destroyed.

[Paul Scheer]

Or at least the guitar shop definitely been destroyed.

[Nick Weiger]

The guitar shop.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The keytar shop.

[Nick Weiger]

Charlie P.S. one of my favorite characters in cinema.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I love that.

[Nick Weiger]

He's like the wacky buddy Charlie who's like, wearing every piece of clothing you could possibly wear. Like, leather hat.

[Tatiana Maslany]

He's wearing all the accessories.

[Nick Weiger]

Baseball jacket.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, he looks like Paul Schaefer from the early 80s. Like, that kind of Like, I'm wearing everything. I'm a musician, man. It's cool. And his shop, oddly, has, like, police scanners and then just a lot of keyboards. My keyboards. Like, he literally says, I think my keyboards.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Why does he have a police scanner there?

[Nick Weiger]

Why does he have a shotgun behind the front? They're like, you got a shotgun, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Charlie was like, yeah, it's small town America. Everybody's robbing the. The wreck the. The music store.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Lubik says it so, like, he's like, you know, if someone comes in and causes trouble, you got a gun. And he seemed to be of the age of the teenagers. Like, he didn't seem lubric. Yeah, no, Charlie, Charlie. He didn't seem like. But it was established that he owned that place.

[Paul Scheer]

There was a neon sign that said, Charlie's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's take a listen to this. So at the end of the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

So we know he can afford neon, which is no joke.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We kind of forget about Lubik for a second. And this is what happens. They see him on the throne. Throne now dressed in Eternia garb. And here we go.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, Lubik, look at you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So you're really gonna stay here, huh? What, are you kidding? What am I gonna go back there for? Look what I got here. I got. I got a castle. I got a view.

[Paul Scheer]

I got clean air.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got a beautiful woman.

[Paul Scheer]

Poor exact retirement.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Huh? Huh? He gets the castle. Like, that's the other thing too. Like, who's giving everything. Like, this guy did very little in the grand scheme of things.

[Paul Scheer]

He's basically Bronn from Game of Thrones. He's like an assassin who's been given like a. You're gonna marry that girl. You're gonna get that castle. Like, who knows you're that guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't have faith in that relationship. He's like, I got a girlfriend. Like, when I got a woman in this five minutes of after the fight.

[Paul Scheer]

You gotta go, why would I go back there? It's smelt on America. Come on. I got a castle. I got a view.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got a view. The view, seemingly, from that castle was terrible. Yeah, it was gross. Like, dead landscape.

[Nick Weiger]

Fresh air.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Fresh air.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I think something might have been wrong with that guy because there's another scene earlier where he's walking with the rest of his police.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

He's trying to convince them that something crazy is happening.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Right. And they're.

[Paul Scheer]

But.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But I don't understand why he never enlists them. Why he doesn't enlist them earlier.

[Paul Scheer]

They don't. Oh. Cause I think he's a lone wolf. I think he's like a Serpico. I think these. Well, he doesn't know what's going on. First of all, he doesn't know what's going on. There's just. Oh, there's been the fire at the school. He's investigating an arson. You know what they think?

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, no. And the custodian has also been attacked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, the custodian.

[June Diane Raphael]

What happened?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He goes. He's like, I can. He says, I can never tell you.

[Nick Weiger]

You could never know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, you could never know. That's not a good attack.

[Paul Scheer]

You should be like, yeah, no, people should know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Monsters are handy.

[Paul Scheer]

People should know there are monsters.

[Nick Weiger]

And then the cop just went to what's his face. Kevin's house. And then they just started kind of having snacks. Oh, right.

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's Julia's house. And I found it very odd that she called her own home.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, her own home was full of Burger King cups. Oddly placed Burger King cups.

[Paul Scheer]

That is true. Why does she call her house? Because her parents are straight up dead.

[Tatiana Maslany]

There's no one there.

[Nick Weiger]

And why did he pretend she wasn't alive? Why did he hide that from the cop?

[Paul Scheer]

To what end?

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah, because what did that. What was the cop.

[Paul Scheer]

Cop would have been cool. That was like a school. Now we don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did you think that he thought that, like, maybe she killed the janitor and lit the place on fire? Like he's gonna help her escape?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he was like, I don't know why you did it, babe, but I know it was right. So I'll meet you. The janitor's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's a good boyfriend. He's covering for her. That's like the beginning of Fargo or something. He's just covering.

[Paul Scheer]

That's so true. He has no reason to lie about her being alive, which is his main concern. He would be like, hooray, you're alive.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Just tell the cops.

[Paul Scheer]

But why does Lubic. Lubic is so suspicious of Kevin immediately? As if Kevin is like the worst kid in the world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I mean, really, we're talking about an 18 year old kid. Like a young kid, not an arsonist, who's destroyed this.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I mean, he's also run into the crime scene to try to figure out what's going on. Like, had he done something, I doubt he would be there.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, a lot of times people who commit crimes stick around.

[Tatiana Maslany]

You're right. To see what they've done.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I've seen seven. That's true.

[Paul Scheer]

I just want to talk about spoiler Alert.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I do want to talk about. The core concept of this movie in general is that they're after a device that is essentially a keyboard, a circular keyboard that opens portals. That's like the whole movie is the confusion of that as a musical instrument versus a powerful tool.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the thing. How is this whole he man movie, again, we're talking so little about he Man. How is this whole he man movie about. About the key, about the keyboard thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And when the little troll uses it, he types on it as if like your mime. Like the worst extra work in the background. Like, I'm typing, like, quick. Not even looking, like. And then when the evil Lara, like, has it, or she's like, very gentle, like, boop, boop, boop, boop. Everyone uses it differently. And it seems. And then the other people are playing.

[Paul Scheer]

Grill Door invented it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But Grildor seems to be the least effective. He's like.

[Paul Scheer]

But he's like, Grildor. Yeah, exactly. Grildor invented it, but cannot seem to use it. He doesn't remember the tunes, but it seems like investing a keyboard, a piano, rather, and being like. But I don't know what it does.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He basically says the universe is all music. That's how they. And so at the end of the movie, to get the wormhole to open, they just kind of hook up a keyboard and that guy just plays the tune. Which Grildor should know because he fucking created it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And then the thing opens because he.

[Nick Weiger]

Would have had to program it and be like, okay, so this sequence opens that kind of a wormhole.

[Paul Scheer]

Totally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I guess the thought being that, well, if I don't have those specific 90 keys, I can't program it. I can.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, who knows? And by the way, Skeletor has one of these keys as well.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah. What?

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Tatiana Maslany]

That's.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Tatiana Maslany]

That was crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

So there's just fucking rotten. This planet is rotten with key.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah. When he came into Earth with the key, I was like, he's got it.

[Paul Scheer]

He's got one too. I thought, why don't they all just jam out? I mean, like, why don't they just. They might as well just form a band playing these nonsense things. It's garbage.

[Nick Weiger]

Skeletor at one point goes, if I don't have everything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

I have nothing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

So is it just that he just wants such an existential delay, such a beautiful, beautiful line?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, there's, by the way, a lot of poetry in this movie. They also. The live let. Or, sorry, live the journey. Because every destination is the Door to another adventure.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I thought that that theme. Well, here's my pitch for a better ending to this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I agree with you.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Because I did actually like the idea of we don't say goodbye. We say good journey. So what I thought was gonna happen, I did like that idea. And I did cry. You know, when there was a lot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Of crying, there was some pretty intense.

[Tatiana Maslany]

And Paul did too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, where did you cry? I cried a little bit when Lubic got his cast. Yeah, I was like, finally.

[Nick Weiger]

Finally got a girlfriend.

[Paul Scheer]

When did you cry? Oh, oh, oh, okay, I'll take that. That was emotional.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It was emotional. But I actually.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You were crying through the credits.

[Tatiana Maslany]

You really got hysterically through the credits. But what I wish had happened and I think would have made it a better movie is if she came home, waking up in that, you know, in her nightgowns, and came downstairs and they weren't there, and they were dead still. And. But what she would have come to is that she doesn't have a chance to say goodbye. I might start crying, but. But what she's now able to say to them is good journey because she knows that in a bigger sense, she will get to see them again on this journey. That would have. To me, that's like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's really beautiful.

[Paul Scheer]

Rather have had than her flying, hurtling through space and time and grabbing them out of an airplane.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, no, I thought that was gonna happen. I thought we were headed there and that's why they were on the plane. But in place of that, I think also there's an opportunity for an ending where they're not there. And she. Because she is really struggling with her grief during this movie and seeing that mirage of her mom. I mean, I'm very scared of mirages in general.

[Paul Scheer]

When I saw that, I am very scared of. Of mirages, comma, in general, period.

[Tatiana Maslany]

When I saw that, I was like, don't go over there. Don't go over there. And I realized, like, oh, fuck, I'm scared of mirages. But, oh, this is.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, so this movie made you realize this was an epiphany for you. And this is. This movie caused a real realization for you of, I am afraid, scared of.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Mirages whenever I see it in movies and films and television.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How much are you seeing mirages in?

[Paul Scheer]

Not often desert movies really get mirage. P. Henson. What?

[Tatiana Maslany]

I will not go into the mirage in Vegas. It's terrifying.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, of course not. Well, there's nothing inside there. It's all an illusion.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But I do think there would have been a Better ending to the movie because that actually, as an idea, we don't say goodbye. We say good Journey was interesting to me.

[Paul Scheer]

Sure.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But wasn't. Because then at the end when her parents were there, it was just like, oh, okay, I guess you get to be with them.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that was. The thing is, like, they're saying goodbye on the other planet. What's it called? He Man's Planet. Whatever. They're saying goodbye. Grill Door is about to send them through the portal. And they're like, okay, good journey. Good journey. Everybody's all upset. Everybody's waving. Good journey. Good journey. Okay. And then just as they're about to go through the portal, Courtney Cox is like, oh, wait a minute, Grilldor, can you. And then, zap. They get zapped. So, like, I'm assuming she was gonna say, will you send me back to before my parents died? But, like, it was almost an afterthought on her part, which I thought was weird. And then her wish is granted in a weird way. Well.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cause Grildor knows what's up, Caus.

[Paul Scheer]

Grildor's dialed in to what her journey is.

[Tatiana Maslany]

But see, this is the weird thing about time travel. Time travel as a concept is not really introduced until that moment. Until that moment. Is it?

[Paul Scheer]

Is it? Yes. Where Grilldoor Society.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think they were going. I thought they were going laterally, like, you know. Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Traveling in time.

[Paul Scheer]

No. And then Grill Door at the end says, I can send you any place in space and time.

[Tatiana Maslany]

By the way, that's a good Grill Door.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was a great grillor.

[Paul Scheer]

I didn't even know I was gonna do it. I didn't even know I was. I didn't know I had it in me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Remake Jason. Let's do Grill Door.

[Paul Scheer]

Call me. Call me. Owners of the franchise. Masters of Gary Goddard, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There are. There are. There was a sequel written that was never shot.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. This movie also shows shut down three days before it was supposed to end production. So that's why maybe some of the.

[Paul Scheer]

Potholes are not all about to have Jimi Hendrix. There's. There's. They played Jimi Hendrix in this movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

What?

[Nick Weiger]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

In Charlie's Music Store, Hendrix is playing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

And they have the song Living in a Box. I'm living in a box I'm living in a cardboard box I'm a living in a box Remember that song? Terrible, terrible, terrible.

[Nick Weiger]

What is that song?

[Paul Scheer]

You Guys are All Too Young. It's like a terrible song called I'm.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Living in a Box.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm living in a box It's a terrible song. It was like the equivalent of, like, you remember Walk the Dinosaur? Yeah, the was not was. I feel like it was like. It was like a. That kind of a song, but maybe 10 years earlier.

[Tatiana Maslany]

What is the song about?

[Paul Scheer]

Living in a box. Living in a cardboard box. Maybe it's about a homeless person. I don't know. Gross.

[Nick Weiger]

Gross people.

[Paul Scheer]

Gross people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. These gross people can't afford planes.

[Nick Weiger]

Exactly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Paul Scheer]

That song was playing, and I was like, oh, my God, remember this song? But that made me think, like, they must have spent money. Cause that song was a hit. They must have spent money buying these.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, you know, there's actually a great documentary about all these films that Brett Ratner produced. I just. It's called, like, it. Basically, it's Masters of the Universe. It's Superman, the Quest for Peace, the Golden or Globus, whatever these guys are. They just made these insane movies, and it was just like, these. It's a great documentary. I think it's coming out in a week now on digital. But it's like the history of this studio that was just like, fuck it. Well, there's like, they just everything. Cause this is a movie written by somebody who's like, yeah, yeah, we got that name. All right. It has nothing to do with it. It's like just white guys in the room going, yeah, yeah, and kids. And the kids are like, that. There are kids in here. And he. Man, forget it all. Like, there's nothing to tie the kids who love the comic. And this happens all the time, like Mario Brothers or Super Mario. It's like, oh, yeah, let's not get him out of there. Put him in the world. It's like, it makes no sense. I want to just play just for this two clips that I love. This is just Dolph and the chemistry that he has with Courtney Cox. And as you kind of catch Dolph Lundgrenical, the phonetic English that's going on.

[Paul Scheer]

Dolph Lundgren appears to exist separate from everybody else in the movie. Everybody else sees relationships with each other.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They had to, like, set up Kevin.

[Paul Scheer]

And Courtney Cox, the Mustachio and his daughter and his perhaps daughter. They are. Everybody's teamed up. Dolph Lundgren just is, like, floating in the ether almost.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's Dolphin in his English.

[Paul Scheer]

Get away from me. It's all right. It's all right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Don't be afraid. I won't hurt you.

[Paul Scheer]

Now what are you running from?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's all running from.

[Paul Scheer]

Courtney is adorable in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's got to do a lot, by the way. Like, that I think is a tough role to pull off. And I'm sure it's like one of her earliest roles too. She's got to go from like, oh, yeah, like she's got a. She's got death in the family. She's running from aliens. She's fighting. She's, you know, like, she's got.

[Paul Scheer]

I really. I loved her in the show. I was like very on board for Courteney Cox and the kid who plays Kevin, I thought.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I thought he was great.

[Paul Scheer]

I thought it was really interesting because they were basically. Yeah, those kids that were basically in an 80s teen movie and everybody else is in some fucking weird nonsense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, that's like the kind of the fun world of it. It's like they're like, we got this teen movie and we'll just throw in this other thing. It's kind of like this weird mashup. Well, obviously we had opinions about this movie that there are other people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[Paul Scheer]

Second opinions from top to bottom. Crazy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is like we gotta take the.

[Paul Scheer]

Ones from seizure inducements.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We can pull it out. We gotta take.

[Paul Scheer]

The blood is gonna come out of my ears and nose. There's just so much going on. It's like a cacophony of nonsense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say when I scour Amazon for these second opinions, it's easy to pull some out. This was hard. There were like 500 five star reviews.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, A lot of love for Masters. But here's what.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that what we're calling it now? Masters.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, for Masters.

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of love for Masters.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A lot of love for Masters.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that just what we're doing?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're gonna be okay with Masters?

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of love for Masters. Oh, what'd you guys do on the show this week? Masters. Total classic rock.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is from Marissa and it is the title of it is awesome gift from my mom. And here it goes. Awesome gift from my mom. She loves this movie. I'm glad it's available on dvd. Five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

The mom loves this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mom loves it. Awesome gift from my mom. So that's if everyone wants to give their mom a gift that keeps on giving. Okay, here we go. This is. Okay, this is by. This is by plebes. I always thought that little dwarf snagged the bucket of chicken. I know 5 stars should be reserved for the unblemished. And I'm aware that they stole embarrassingly from Star wars and that there's a villain sporting a white shawl. Not to mention all the big dog critics who snubbed their noses. But I think this film is one of the best superhero question mark, fantasy question mark movies out there. And when evil Lyn wanted to break the promise and Skeletor wouldn't let. Genius. Pure genius. Five stars. This is like almost. That is the unedited just train of thought.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, and just to make sure. Cause I did want to mention it earlier. Skeletor's sidekick is a woman named. Not Evelyn. Not Evelyn. Evil.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know why that article or that review starts off with. I always thought the little dwarf snagged a bucket of.

[Paul Scheer]

He obviously does.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, there's.

[Nick Weiger]

That was like a point of contention.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No debate.

[Paul Scheer]

Finally this release settles it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Finally. They attack in the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

It's basically like, did Greedo shoot first?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Okay. This is from E.M. woodfill. Eileen Woodfill, written in 1999. I think this is the best movie I've seen in science fiction. I mean, this movie is exciting. I don't get the part that the bad guys needed the key if they already had the key. And that part doesn't make sense to me. But she wrote that part doesn't make sense to me. My favorite part is when Courteney Cox is Julie. By the way, of course, that's Julie. Like, yeah, that's the only character she plays.

[Paul Scheer]

My favorite part is when Courtney.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My favorite part is when Courtney Cox as Julie gets hit by Skeletor Poison. One more part where Skeletor and he man had their battle at the end. That's the review. So her two favorite parts is when Courtney Cox's Julie gets hit by Skeletor Poison. Poison. And one more part where Skeletor and he man had their battle.

[Paul Scheer]

The only way that would make stars is if at the very end that person was like, I am five years old. You know what I mean? Like, if that. If an adult wrote that, shame. Shame on you.

[Tatiana Maslany]

This is a movie to me. I know I've talked about these types of movies before where I would. Just. As a child, you'd watch a movie that was on tv because you want to watch a movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, on tv.

[Tatiana Maslany]

You want to watch a movie on tv. So. So I would find myself watching a movie like this, and it would be great because it was just simply a movie.

[Nick Weiger]

Something to watch.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Simply a movie. Therefore, it was great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I get in regards as something to.

[Paul Scheer]

Watch it really to watch something. There's a lot of things that fall into that category for me. That are like movies that in my mind I still think are awesome because they were on. On like a Sunday afternoon on channel 56. And I was like, fuck, Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I remember seeing Mixed Nuts with Steve Martin. It still remains one of my favorite movies because I saw it as a child and was one of the only VHS tapes we had. And so I watched it over and over and over again because I was just so excited that it was a movie that I could see.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I remember the first kid in our neighborhood in my town, I feel like. But no, not in my area to get a vcr. Only had two tapes and they were Grease. Great.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Everybody had Grease on vhs. What is that?

[Paul Scheer]

I think Grease. I think Greece. I think VHS and Grease were the same time.

[Tatiana Maslany]

They are same.

[Nick Weiger]

VHS was created for Greece.

[Paul Scheer]

Came about exactly.

[Tatiana Maslany]

A huge step in technology. With Greece, Travolta was like, hey, you.

[Paul Scheer]

Know, I got an idea. What if we. No, I think they just like came to market at the same time. And so Grease profited from that. The other one, though, was the Burt Reynolds movie, Hooper.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, what's that?

[Paul Scheer]

Where he jumped. It's a car jumping movie. It's like all he does is like, jump cars off of bridges. It's nonsense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a stuntman written directed movie.

[Paul Scheer]

It's awesome. I think it's awesome, but it might be terrible.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know the movie I watched as a kid all the time was not Brewster's Millions. The Toy.

[Paul Scheer]

The Toy, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The Toy was one I watched all the time.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a very weird movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I also watched Grease, Grease 2. Always on VHS. Mixed nuts. And regarding Henry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Which we happen to have on VHS.

[Paul Scheer]

J.J. abrams first script.

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah, I was turtles too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Turtles two. That was yours?

[Nick Weiger]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Nick Weiger]

Like, I can't tell you how many.

[Paul Scheer]

Turtles is secret of the universe.

[Nick Weiger]

I've seen that movie.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Seriously. He is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, that's how this is how this connection has happened.

[Paul Scheer]

You can't.

[Nick Weiger]

I remember now, like, the impact sounds of like the fight scenes.

[Tatiana Maslany]

What?

[Nick Weiger]

Like, I'm so. I know it so well.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love it if just to like be watching it with you and for you to be. Not only reciting all the dialogue word for word, but then being like, no.

[Nick Weiger]

I've sat down and watched it with my boyfriend. And he's like, shut up. Because I kind of want him to know that I know all these things, but at the same time, it's the most irritating thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I used to record. I used to record movies on cassette tape and then listen to them in a headset so I would memorize movies and they're. I know Beverly Hills Cop. I can pretty much do verbiage. I should do one man show, Beverly Hills Cop.

[Paul Scheer]

That would be amazing.

[Nick Weiger]

Can we put him up our shows that like, let's do like, that would be amazing. One scene.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love that to the scene.

[Paul Scheer]

You should do a show in which you get you two and a couple of war people and you have to whoever. It's a competition show. Who can go the longest perfectly reciting dialogue.

[Tatiana Maslany]

I wanted to do Anna Green Gables.

[Nick Weiger]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yes. Of course. With vegan follows. Yeah. Anna Green Gables and Anne of Avonlea. I could do the entire film.

[Nick Weiger]

Really?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, didn't Andrew just die?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no, don't, don't.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Actor who plays Gilbert.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Gilbert. Sorry. Yes. Sorry.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Yeah, that's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just wanted that.

[Paul Scheer]

My apologies. My condolences.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just, I, I, I did too young. I did do the. I don't want to talk about that research. That documentary I was talking about is called Electric Boogaloo, the Wild Untold Story of Canon Films. And they are behind movies like Death Wish, American Ninja, Delta Force, over the Top, Masters of the universe, Superman 4, like, and a movie called the Happy Hooker.

[Paul Scheer]

They basically electric books but not break into Electric Boogaloo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe it is. I'm just looking really quickly here. So that's what I got there.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that sounds awesome.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it has been amazing to get us all together to talk about this film. And before we get the plugs, I want to play Frank Langella just to give us a little taste of his.

[Paul Scheer]

Power and we'll wrap up because he is great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He honest to God, great in this movie. And I feel like Frankel is great, but I also feel like he was like, oh, they don't know what they're doing. So I'll just do four monologues and they'll all be pretty good.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Like, they're pretty engaging. Like, I did find myself watching Skeletor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And for a man behind a mask, like a full mask, where you're not seeing eyes or anything.

[Paul Scheer]

No, you're seeing eyes.

[Nick Weiger]

I mean, but like very small.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not seeing it.

[Paul Scheer]

There's very hard movement. There's no, nothing.

[Tatiana Maslany]

It is mask work.

[Paul Scheer]

Yep, it is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's doing some improv. Here we go. Of what consequence are you now? This planet, these, these people, they are nothing to me. The universe is power, you unstoppable power. And I am that force.

[Paul Scheer]

I am that power.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kneel before your master. I, I love movies. You are no Longer my hero. I am more than man, more than life. Go. I. I love when you have, like, a good actor in a movie like this and he's like, fuck it. I like the shit out of this anyways.

[Paul Scheer]

Rich, can I get one more take? I just want to pause more between those final words.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, so that brings us to the end of the episode. Somebody did write a detailed description of what the movie is, but it makes no sense. Okay, so, Paul, I love it.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Listening to movies on tape.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Tatiana Maslany]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

While you're mowing the lawn, running scared.

[Tatiana Maslany]

In Beverly Hills Cop and just like putting movies on tv.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I just put a little. Yeah.

[Nick Weiger]

Do you just picture. Do you imagine what, like, do you remember the scenes? And like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I guess, like, to me it was a sort of like, oh, how could I. Like, how could I watch this movie, like, on the school? And I just would put my little recorder in front of my TV and just record them and you could get it, you know, it was like, just dialogue.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm amazed. I think that's a great idea.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So great. And just being on the bus and I remember being embarrassed because this girl that was sitting next to me, I was like, what are you listening to? And she's like, Pink Floyd. And she's like, what are you listening to? I'm like, running Scared, A movie with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines. I remember I was a dialogue.

[Tatiana Maslany]

You're listening to a movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, guys, Paul Scheer's listening to a movie on his Walkman.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just felt scared. That was also in a period of my life where the only music I listened to were movie soundtracks.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. So I had only movie soundtracks. So I was like, listening to, like, Tom. What was it? Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd doing the rap from the Dragnet movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, terrible, terrible songs. Cause it was all like, you know, man sized love from a band called Climax. I know all this. Like, I know so many movie soundtracks. Like, yeah, it's amazing. Back to the Future soundtrack on all the time.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my God. I love.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, what do you have to plug? Would you like to plug anything?

[Nick Weiger]

I don't know if I have anything to plug.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You can follow you on Twitter.

[Nick Weiger]

Follow me on Twitter. I think TatianaMaslani. Yeah, that's all I got. I got nothing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What do you want to plug?

[Tatiana Maslany]

Well, you can. I'm on Twitter msmsjunedian, and you can still check out Grace and Frankie, which is streaming on Netflix.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm in a movie called sleeping with other people. That's out right now. Depending on where you live and depending on when this episode comes. Please go see that. Jason Sudeikis. Ally Brie, me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think we know her as Alison Brie.

[Paul Scheer]

Alison Brie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My special with Rob, people. Crash chest just came out on iTunes for 3.99 with a bunch of people you love. Aziz, Rob Cordry, Aubrey Plaza, and Jason and I and June are all in the league this season, which is airing right now on fxx.

[Paul Scheer]

And we'll get it out. We'll put it out there. Tatiana's gonna be on the this season of the league, too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Great.

[Paul Scheer]

Or league crossover.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Crossover. Let's do it.

[Nick Weiger]

I'm doing a major Frank Langella monologue. Lots of pausing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you have a issue with this episode, you want to give us a correction and omission, you can do that@the earwolf.com message boards. So follow us on Twitter DTGM. And a big thank you to Nate Kiley doing our research, Averel Halley pulling all of our clips, our engineer Ryan. Everybody here at Earwolf, July Diaz. Oh, the whole crew, everybody. We love you all. Thank you so much. We'll see you next time on the mini episode. Stay tuned.