Podcast Summary: Matinee Monday: Spice World (w/ Retta)
Episode Overview
In the November 25, 2024 episode of How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas, alongside guest Retta, delve deep into the notorious 1997 comedy film Spice World. Known for celebrating the most baffling cinematic endeavors, the trio dissects every aspect of this infamous movie, offering a blend of humor, critical analysis, and personal anecdotes.
1. Introduction to Spice World
Paul Scheer kicks off the discussion by reminiscing about his childhood experience with Spice World, setting the nostalgic yet critical tone for the episode. The hosts acknowledge the film's reputation as a quintessential example of a "so-bad-it's-good" movie, inviting listeners to explore why such films resonate despite their apparent shortcomings.
"It's hard day's night without the irony. We saw Spice World, so you know what that means."
Paul Scheer [01:41]
2. Guest Introduction: Retta Joins the Conversation
The episode welcomes Retta, known for her role in Parks and Recreation, as a special guest. Retta brings fresh perspectives and relatable anecdotes, enhancing the discussion with her unique comedic flair.
"I thought it was a sultry Easter I'm making. I'm making plans for my next career."
Jason Mantzoukas [02:25]
"I was thinking more sex phone calls."
Retta [02:39]
3. Breaking Down the Plot and Structure
The hosts critically examine the film's convoluted plot, characterized by abrupt shifts, lack of coherent storytelling, and an overreliance on fantastical elements like alien encounters. They highlight how these aspects contribute to the film's disjointed narrative.
"I looked at the time of the movie, 20 minutes in. I was like, I don't understand what the goal is."
Paul Scheer [05:39]
"When the world is in trouble, when our future is in danger, we call upon one man. But when he's busy, he calls Five girls."
Jason Mantzoukas [02:59]
4. Character Analysis and Stereotypes
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the portrayal of the Spice Girls themselves and the inclusion of stereotypical characters, such as the Asian pregnant lady and Meat Loaf's character. The hosts critique the lack of depth and the reliance on clichés, which undermine the film's attempt at "girl power."
"That pregnant woman up there. She's definitely in there."
Paul Scheer [14:08]
"She's supposed to be Scary Spice, which is also a little bit weird. Yeah, yeah, a little bit weird."
Retta [13:24]
5. Production Choices and Cameos
The hosts explore the film's production decisions, including its extensive use of cameos from notable British actors like Richard E. Grant and Alan Cumming. They question the necessity and execution of these appearances, suggesting they add to the film's chaotic feel.
"There's Elvis Costello, Elton John was there for a second. It's crazy."
Jason Mantzoukas [60:25]
"He slams his fist on the table. Lightning and thunder start striking. Then it starts raining on the man in his office."
Jason Mantzoukas [22:33]
6. Themes and Messages: Girl Power or Anti-Girl Power?
The conversation delves into the film's central theme of "girl power" and questions whether the portrayal truly supports this message or inadvertently contradicts it through its flawed execution and inconsistent character development.
"These movies that are like, for the fans that have no real story, that are not movies that are just sort of like, you know, other platforms for them to expose themselves are so interesting."
June Diane Raphael [19:43]
"I remember reading a statistic that said in the movies that were made in the last, like, well, since movies have been made when a baby is born, the phrase it's a boy has been uttered like 90% of the time."
June Diane Raphael [50:12]
7. Notable Scenes and Memorable Moments
The hosts highlight specific scenes that encapsulate the film's absurdity, such as the Spice Girls interacting with aliens, delivering a baby without medical professionals, and the surreal depiction of their concert preparations.
"Aliens come out. Literally aliens come out and their dialogue is like, Black, black, black, black."
Jason Mantzoukas [32:43]
"Ginger Spice straight up kisses this shrunken headed alien dude on the goddamn mouth."
Jason Mantzoukas [34:09]
8. Critical Reception and Audience Perspectives
Addressing the mixed reception, the hosts share both their scathing critiques and surprisingly positive Amazon reviews that praise the film's carefree nature and lack of conventional storytelling, reflecting the divided opinions among audiences.
"Karen from Wisconsin writes, this is a carefree, fun movie for anyone. Well, not dumb people who think movies need plots and good acting to make an awesome movie. But this is what life is really like. Fly by your seat. What? Every. Fly by the seat of your pants. Enjoy every moment and dress up in funny costumes. Five stars."
Paul Scheer [55:31]
9. Conclusion: Is Spice World Worth the Hype?
In wrapping up, the hosts debate whether Spice World warrants its cult status. While universally acknowledged as a flawed film, its enduring legacy and unique charm make it a fascinating subject for discussion and a beloved guilty pleasure for many.
"If you could stream it or something like that, I would say yes. But no, I would not Advocate anybody spend $10 on this."
Jason Mantzoukas [62:37]
"I liked that one song, too, where they were raising their fists. Go on."
June Diane Raphael [60:07]
10. Final Thoughts and Recommendations
The episode concludes with the hosts sharing their final opinions on Spice World. While recognizing its numerous flaws, they acknowledge the film's unique place in pop culture history and recommend it to those looking for a humorous exploration of cinema's more questionable ventures.
"There are certain movies that just don't need a plot."
Paul Scheer [57:12]
"It was the most clever and dumb thing I've ever seen in my life."
Paul Scheer [55:38]
Notable Quotes:
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"It's like if we throw more color at you, you won't see."
Paul Scheer [06:00] -
"They do not obey any of the physics of that. It is absolutely off."
Jason Mantzoukas [17:55] -
"I do not want to be on that episode."
Retta [26:27]
Conclusion
This episode of How Did This Get Made? offers a comprehensive and entertaining examination of Spice World, highlighting why certain films become infamous yet beloved over time. Through sharp humor and insightful critique, the hosts and guest Retta provide listeners with a thorough understanding of the film's impact and enduring legacy in the realm of cult classics.