Matinee Monday: Spice World (w/ Retta)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Matinee Monday: Spice World (w/ Retta)

---

Episode Overview

In the November 25, 2024 episode of How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas, alongside guest Retta, delve deep into the notorious 1997 comedy film Spice World. Known for celebrating the most baffling cinematic endeavors, the trio dissects every aspect of this infamous movie, offering a blend of humor, critical analysis, and personal anecdotes.

---

1. Introduction to Spice World

Paul Scheer kicks off the discussion by reminiscing about his childhood experience with Spice World, setting the nostalgic yet critical tone for the episode. The hosts acknowledge the film's reputation as a quintessential example of a "so-bad-it's-good" movie, inviting listeners to explore why such films resonate despite their apparent shortcomings.

"It's hard day's night without the irony. We saw Spice World, so you know what that means."
Paul Scheer [01:41]

---

2. Guest Introduction: Retta Joins the Conversation

The episode welcomes Retta, known for her role in Parks and Recreation, as a special guest. Retta brings fresh perspectives and relatable anecdotes, enhancing the discussion with her unique comedic flair.

"I thought it was a sultry Easter I'm making. I'm making plans for my next career."
Jason Mantzoukas [02:25]
"I was thinking more sex phone calls."
Retta [02:39]

---

3. Breaking Down the Plot and Structure

The hosts critically examine the film's convoluted plot, characterized by abrupt shifts, lack of coherent storytelling, and an overreliance on fantastical elements like alien encounters. They highlight how these aspects contribute to the film's disjointed narrative.

"I looked at the time of the movie, 20 minutes in. I was like, I don't understand what the goal is."
Paul Scheer [05:39]

"When the world is in trouble, when our future is in danger, we call upon one man. But when he's busy, he calls Five girls."
Jason Mantzoukas [02:59]

---

4. Character Analysis and Stereotypes

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the portrayal of the Spice Girls themselves and the inclusion of stereotypical characters, such as the Asian pregnant lady and Meat Loaf's character. The hosts critique the lack of depth and the reliance on clichés, which undermine the film's attempt at "girl power."

"That pregnant woman up there. She's definitely in there."
Paul Scheer [14:08]

"She's supposed to be Scary Spice, which is also a little bit weird. Yeah, yeah, a little bit weird."
Retta [13:24]

---

5. Production Choices and Cameos

The hosts explore the film's production decisions, including its extensive use of cameos from notable British actors like Richard E. Grant and Alan Cumming. They question the necessity and execution of these appearances, suggesting they add to the film's chaotic feel.

"There's Elvis Costello, Elton John was there for a second. It's crazy."
Jason Mantzoukas [60:25]

"He slams his fist on the table. Lightning and thunder start striking. Then it starts raining on the man in his office."
Jason Mantzoukas [22:33]

---

6. Themes and Messages: Girl Power or Anti-Girl Power?

The conversation delves into the film's central theme of "girl power" and questions whether the portrayal truly supports this message or inadvertently contradicts it through its flawed execution and inconsistent character development.

"These movies that are like, for the fans that have no real story, that are not movies that are just sort of like, you know, other platforms for them to expose themselves are so interesting."
June Diane Raphael [19:43]

"I remember reading a statistic that said in the movies that were made in the last, like, well, since movies have been made when a baby is born, the phrase it's a boy has been uttered like 90% of the time."
June Diane Raphael [50:12]

---

7. Notable Scenes and Memorable Moments

The hosts highlight specific scenes that encapsulate the film's absurdity, such as the Spice Girls interacting with aliens, delivering a baby without medical professionals, and the surreal depiction of their concert preparations.

"Aliens come out. Literally aliens come out and their dialogue is like, Black, black, black, black."
Jason Mantzoukas [32:43]

"Ginger Spice straight up kisses this shrunken headed alien dude on the goddamn mouth."
Jason Mantzoukas [34:09]

---

8. Critical Reception and Audience Perspectives

Addressing the mixed reception, the hosts share both their scathing critiques and surprisingly positive Amazon reviews that praise the film's carefree nature and lack of conventional storytelling, reflecting the divided opinions among audiences.

"Karen from Wisconsin writes, this is a carefree, fun movie for anyone. Well, not dumb people who think movies need plots and good acting to make an awesome movie. But this is what life is really like. Fly by your seat. What? Every. Fly by the seat of your pants. Enjoy every moment and dress up in funny costumes. Five stars."
Paul Scheer [55:31]

---

9. Conclusion: Is Spice World Worth the Hype?

In wrapping up, the hosts debate whether Spice World warrants its cult status. While universally acknowledged as a flawed film, its enduring legacy and unique charm make it a fascinating subject for discussion and a beloved guilty pleasure for many.

"If you could stream it or something like that, I would say yes. But no, I would not Advocate anybody spend $10 on this."
Jason Mantzoukas [62:37]

"I liked that one song, too, where they were raising their fists. Go on."
June Diane Raphael [60:07]

---

10. Final Thoughts and Recommendations

The episode concludes with the hosts sharing their final opinions on Spice World. While recognizing its numerous flaws, they acknowledge the film's unique place in pop culture history and recommend it to those looking for a humorous exploration of cinema's more questionable ventures.

"There are certain movies that just don't need a plot."
Paul Scheer [57:12]

"It was the most clever and dumb thing I've ever seen in my life."
Paul Scheer [55:38]

---

Notable Quotes:

• "It's like if we throw more color at you, you won't see."
  Paul Scheer [06:00]

• "They do not obey any of the physics of that. It is absolutely off."
  Jason Mantzoukas [17:55]

• "I do not want to be on that episode."
  Retta [26:27]

---

Conclusion

This episode of How Did This Get Made? offers a comprehensive and entertaining examination of Spice World, highlighting why certain films become infamous yet beloved over time. Through sharp humor and insightful critique, the hosts and guest Retta provide listeners with a thorough understanding of the film's impact and enduring legacy in the realm of cult classics.

Transcript

[Narrator]

You know, when you go get your car serviced, it feels like everything is wrong, right? Oh, you need to fix this.

[Co-host 1]

You need to get that done.

[Narrator]

And it just feels like, am I getting taken for a ride? Well, with Midas, you don't have to deal with upsells, intimidation, or unnecessary stress from oil changes to tires. Midas provides the services that you need and doesn't pressure you into services that you don't. Midas believes in honest, straightforward auto care that you could Trust. Welcome to AutoCare without bad service. Visit Midas.com for a location near you.

[Ben Mankiewicz]

Talking Pictures, the podcast from TCM and Max is back with a new season. Here, host Ben Mankiewicz in intimate conversations with the people who live to make us laugh. Carol Burnett, Bill Murray, Paul Scheer, Henry Winkler and more all join Ben to talk about the movies that made them. Talking pictures isn't just about film. It's about the powerful role movies play in our lives. It's about where you were, who you were with, and what you were feeling. Listen to Talking Pictures on Max or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator]

Every memorable gift starts with a story. And what better gift to give this holiday season than giving something that represents pure power? Nature's power. I'm talking about Jefferson's Ocean Bourbon and Jefferson's Ocean Rye.

[Co-host 1]

They are aged at sea.

[Narrator]

They have dealt with elements that you could only dream of. You'll taste the journey in every sip. It's darkened by the pound waves, it's.

[Co-host 1]

Kissed by ocean air, and it's caramelized by equatorial heat.

[Narrator]

Give the gift of adventure. Give Jefferson's Ocean Bourbon and Jefferson's Ocean Rye.

[Co-host 1]

Please sip responsibly.

[Narrator]

Copyright 2023 Jefferson's Bourbon Company Crestwood, Kentucky.

[Co-host 1]

It's hard day's night without the irony. We saw Spice World, so you know what that means.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Now it's time for how to discrimin. Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art.

[Co-host 1]

Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to how did this get Made? I am joined as always by my two co hosts, Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Pretty good. What's happening?

[Narrator]

And June, Diane Rayfield.

[Co-host 1]

How are you, June?

[June Diane Raphael]

Good. How are you, Pa?

[Co-host 1]

Very good. We have a very special guest today. You know her from Parks and Rec. Please welcome Retta.

[Narrator]

Yes, how are you?

[Retta]

Welcome. Me?

[Co-host 1]

I'm good.

[Retta]

How are you?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my gosh, so sultry.

[Co-host 1]

I know.

[Jason Manzoukas]

So self Easter podcast guy.

[Retta]

Like that sexy Easter I'm making. I'm making plans for my next career.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Like, I could. I could picture driving around la, listening to, like, a radio show that you're curating.

[Retta]

I was thinking more sex phone calls.

[Co-host 1]

You could do both then.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I can picture something much different. Then. I'm picturing driving around la, listening and.

[Co-host 1]

Jerking off, which is good, which is terrible. Driving hands. Attend. All right, so we saw Spice the Movie. If you haven't seen it, here, take a listen to the trailer.

[Jason Manzoukas]

When the world is in trouble, when our future is in danger, we call upon one man. But when he's busy, he calls Five girls. Columbia Pictures presents the Spice Girls. All right, we're coming in.

[Narrator]

Their film debut, Victoria, Emma, Mel B.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Jerry and Mel C. They're ready for action.

[Co-host 1]

Girl power.

[Narrator]

They're dressed to kill. Yeah, but can they act?

[Co-host 1]

Blah, blah, blah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Girl power, feminism.

[Co-host 1]

Do you know what I mean? So that is Spice the Movie.

[Narrator]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host 1]

I remember seeing this movie when I was a kid. I saw it from my birthday.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Wait, really?

[Co-host 1]

Oh, I was psyched. I mean, what year is this?

[June Diane Raphael]

I want to say. I want to say I was old.

[Co-host 1]

Enough to be embarrassed. Yeah, what year this movie?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. I feel like this is 1993.

[Jason Manzoukas]

1993, is that right?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. You want to take a guess?

[Jason Manzoukas]

You'll see 90, 95. I feel like it's 96.

[Co-host 1]

98. What?

[Retta]

98.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Wait, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Paul. Paul, you were not a kid.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, I was not a child at all.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I was not a kid.

[Co-host 1]

I was in. I was into the Spice Girls. I was like, this is their cool. And then you were in your 20s.

[Narrator]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

I'm not embarrassed. I'm not embarrassed.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You just said, I remember seeing this as a kid.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, did I say?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah, yeah. In my mind, I was like, well, wait a second. Is there a chance that Paul was, like, a teenager at that point?

[Co-host 1]

No. I was already married to my first wife, and I had three kids at that point. I don't know why. God rest her soul, she was a lovely woman.

[Jason Manzoukas]

She and those kids did not survive.

[Co-host 1]

No. No. Horrible boating accent. Terrible.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And a very long trial for you.

[Co-host 1]

Very long. But you know what? At the end of the day, I feel like I'm. I was vindicated. And, you know, look, that's why boats are on. I. I couldn't see behind my car, and the boat was on a trailer, and I ran.

[June Diane Raphael]

You never talk about them.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, well, you know, that's it.

[Retta]

Ever.

[June Diane Raphael]

Ever.

[Retta]

Not ever.

[Co-host 1]

I would say for a movie. This movie is crazy, right? I mean, And I know it's supposed to be crazy, but that they don't even try is the most upsetting part of it.

[June Diane Raphael]

I would like someone to take a guess, like, to try to explain the plot. Just like the plot. I wrote that at one point of this movie.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I looked at the time of the movie, 20 minutes in. I was like, I don't understand what the goal is. You know what?

[June Diane Raphael]

When I think about the title Spice World, it's like, it is sort of a clue. Like, there's gonna be nothing to hold onto here. Like, it's just like a world of ideas. It's like there's no. There's no story.

[Co-host 1]

A lot of spices, not a lot of stew.

[Jason Manzoukas]

There's not only no story, but, like, the. Any. Truly anything is possible. Aliens come down and visit them. Ginger Spice kisses one of the aliens on the lips.

[Co-host 1]

A man rises up out of a toilet.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yep.

[Co-host 1]

No problem.

[Retta]

Yeah, I was really. I was. I didn't know what to expect. I thought there would be story.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, really?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, now, why is that? Because it was a film.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Because it was a feature film.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, see, that's interesting.

[Retta]

Because it was a feature. And I got so, so angry about the size of the interior of the bus.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Retta]

Just when it started. And then I was like, oh, I get why that bus is so big. Because this is fucking dumb. I was so angry.

[Co-host 1]

It's like a Barbie movie in many, like, you know, like, Barbie would, like, sell you like a dream. Like, it's like that. Everything is on that level. It doesn't make sense. It's just colorful. It's like if we throw more color at you, you won't see.

[June Diane Raphael]

There is something. There was something to hold onto at one point, which was Pregnant Asian lady. Well, yes, because I thought, okay, their whole message is about girl power. Yeah, but it's like girls and girl power. And, like.

[Co-host 1]

But what is girl power?

[June Diane Raphael]

If you wanna be my lover, you have got to get with my friends. And so there was.

[Co-host 1]

You gotta get with my Asian pregnant friend.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, yeah. Like, okay, they're gonna choose their friendship over their work and their fame. But it was so odd that they chose to.

[Co-host 1]

Why do they all have the same friend?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. By the way, I'm obsessed with that girl. But it was so weird that they wouldn't have the conflict be between the Spice Girls. They would add in this woman who. We have no idea who she is.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No frame of reference for the Asian woman.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who do you think she was? A former Spice Girl.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That would make sense.

[Co-host 1]

No, they didn't even set that up.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Well because the Spice Girls don't have an Asian member. So that would kind of make sense.

[Co-host 1]

My biggest compliment I can give this movie is it's probably better than if Menudo made a movie. I said that. That's about the only.

[Retta]

I'm sure Menudo.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Did Menudo make a movie? I'm sure there's a Menudo movie.

[Retta]

There are several Menudo.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Menudo was an evolving concern because they would. As boys would age out, they would put new young boys in. Okay, so at some point, you're right.

[Co-host 1]

They released two featured films. Una Adventura La Madame Menudo and Menudo La Peticulare.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God, we gotta watch those movies.

[Retta]

I do not want to be on that episode.

[Co-host 1]

One of my favorite things in this movie.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, did you not hear? You're on the rest of the episode.

[Co-host 1]

You have to do it.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You're on every episode now.

[Co-host 1]

One of my favorite credits in an opening sequence was based on an idea.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Like, I've never seen that. I've seen, like, based on a story, but based on an idea. And that's what the whole movie feels like to me. Like, the Spice Girls have just casually just tossing out ideas like, oh, yeah, and then aliens. Oh, yeah, right.

[June Diane Raphael]

But by the way. But that is what the movie's about, which is that someone else is making a movie in Hollywood. And so at the end of the movie, you realize, like, oh, this movie really is all of these other bad pitches on what the Spice Girl movie is going to be. So there was, like, that sort of meta quality to the movie.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Well, there's like, three.

[Co-host 1]

There's literally three movies going on in the movie. There's a documentary movie going on. There is the.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That is shot terribly.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, awfully.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Like, anytime you see the documentary camera's point of view, it is shaky. It's Alan. Alan. Alan Cummings is the. Is the protagonist of that story who.

[Co-host 1]

Is rocking denim on top, denim on bottom. He looks like a prisoner at this point.

[Jason Manzoukas]

The Spice Girls must be massively popular. And this movie looks like it cost nothing.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Which is confusing to me. But anyway, that documentary footage is shaky and out of focus and would lead one to believe that he has never made a documentary before in his life.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, well, but he's also in a lot of, like, the improvising he does. He's always concerned about the camera lenses.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's like, wait, wait, wait, no, we need a different lens, a wider lens on this one.

[Co-host 1]

But he's never watching through a Monitor.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, he's always camera.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's just watching the. The scene player saying that he needs different lenses.

[Jason Manzoukas]

He's also, bizarrely, on camera sometimes as like a Michael Moore type figure. Like, here I am. The Spice Girls are about to run down this hallway.

[Ben Mankiewicz]

Yeah.

[Retta]

I thought he worked for a news outlet.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, no, it's.

[June Diane Raphael]

We'll get to that.

[Co-host 1]

Well, I think he would get to that. I also like that there was like, they are performing at the Top of the Pops in the beginning of the movie. And he's like, next to the documentary crew. And he's like, boost, we need louder on the boom mic. Like, it's like you're taping a concert with a boom mic in the middle of. There's a lot of.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Just to clarify what you're describing. Yeah, they are. The documentary crew is in the audience of the. It's not like they're off to the side of the stage. It's not like they're on stage with the girls. They're in the middle of the audience.

[Co-host 1]

By the way, I don't know much, but I know you could probably plug into a sound.

[Jason Manzoukas]

There's definitely.

[Co-host 1]

You can probably just.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You can. Yes. You can get a live feed from what's going on.

[Co-host 1]

Even use that footage. Even use the footage from the episode.

[June Diane Raphael]

Neighbor. That's what's so weird, because at points it seems like this documentary has been, you know, approved by the Spice Girls and that they're a party. And then at other points, like, they have no access to the Spice Girls. And it seems like this unsolicited, like.

[Co-host 1]

Well, he's never really in the same frame of them. He's always hovering above them. He's looking down on them. He's far away from them. Yeah, that part of the plot was also not. And nothing's very much defined. It's sort of like, here's an idea, and then we'll walk away from it.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Or like, the movie starts. I do want to say the movie starts. I was very shocked. With a ballad.

[Narrator]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

The movie starts, like an explosive kind of like, here's the Spice Girls movie ballad.

[Co-host 1]

It's like a laconic James Bond opening. I feel like it's like women who are, like, taking, like, older women who are learning how to dance seductively. It's like the most un. Sexy James Bond dance. It's like, I'm trying to.

[June Diane Raphael]

Here's what I did learn about the Spice Girls.

[Co-host 1]

Uh oh, wow.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Uh oh.

[June Diane Raphael]

First of all, there's a lot of great things about this movie. I Think that they. I'm serious. I'm serious, you guys. They are. They are competent actresses. And I think you all know.

[Co-host 1]

I don't. I do not disagree with that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Number two.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I think some are okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think they're all great.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Has some real problems.

[June Diane Raphael]

I disagree.

[Retta]

Sporty.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Sporty's got.

[June Diane Raphael]

Totally disagree. The other thing is. The other thing is that you can tell. I'm sorry, but you can tell they genuinely get along. Like, there is an energy in those group scenes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

How do you know that, June?

[Co-host 1]

For real, how do you know? Cause I know.

[June Diane Raphael]

Cause I felt like there was, like a really fun energy. I did. I really did.

[Retta]

Well, my thing was, first of all, they tried to start it with conflict between them.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Retta]

Because, you know, she's like, should I wear the Gucci dress? They're like, what should I wear? And she's like, maybe you should wear the little Gucci dress. Or the little Gucci dress. Or the little Gucci dress.

[June Diane Raphael]

She's taking the piss out of each other, though. Greta.

[Retta]

But then, of course, the black girl attacks Ginger over some boots.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Retta]

They try to put a little like.

[Co-host 1]

Like, literally attacks, like jumps on her. Like an animal.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Retta]

Speaking of animals, always in some kind of animal print.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And in the dream, in the weird fantasy sequence is in tribal wear.

[Retta]

I was like, come on.

[Co-host 1]

By the way, also, her name is Scary Spice, which is also a little bit weird. Yeah, Yeah, A little bit weird.

[Jason Manzoukas]

We're meant to be afraid of her because she's black, right? Yes.

[Retta]

I mean, okay, she's the aggressor. But I didn't. Here's my thing. It was always the leopard or she was wearing, you know, Kinte cloth in the. In the dream sequence. But during rehearsal, she's wearing some space.

[Co-host 1]

Suit, like a goose down jacket, giant space suit.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, no.

[Retta]

Half of them are naked and she's wrapped up.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's her rehearsal outfit.

[Retta]

It was hidges.

[Co-host 1]

It was crazy. I noticed that too. It was so bizarre. I didn't get it.

[Jason Manzoukas]

There was.

[June Diane Raphael]

And glasses.

[Narrator]

And glasses.

[Retta]

Yes, yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

And that's why at one point she.

[Retta]

Had to have the African hair. The dude.

[Jason Manzoukas]

At one point, they might as well have put, like a bone through her nose because she's literally in, like, in like a loincloth with a spear. The one black character is carrying a spear at one point. It was awful.

[Co-host 1]

I will also say that among these stereotypes, I was kind of grossed out in retrospect, watching baby spider. Cause it seemed like that was like almost like a pedophile thing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I sleep with my dollies. I want to ask my mommy a question. Like, ugh.

[Jason Manzoukas]

All right. I like that part.

[Co-host 1]

I'm on board.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I'm on board for baby.

[June Diane Raphael]

They're all kind of, you know, heightening their Personas.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I mean, can somebody tell me then what Ginger's Persona is?

[June Diane Raphael]

Red hair.

[Retta]

She dated Jerry O'Connell.

[Co-host 1]

Why? I gotta ask Jerry about that.

[June Diane Raphael]

What?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Call Jerry. Right.

[Co-host 1]

I need to know what.

[Retta]

At the improv. And I was like, cherry, what's up? And he was like, oh, me. And I was like, oh, my God. And this is, like years after they were.

[Jason Manzoukas]

This is when. Oh, wait, this is after they were a big thing.

[Retta]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

But I see. I feel like they make fun of. Jerry's whole thing is, like, girl power. But I don't quite understand.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I think she's a feminist is her thing.

[Co-host 1]

She's a feminist.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I think that's. Her power is bizarrely feminism, and I love that. I couldn't understand.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think they're all into girl power, though, aren't they?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Retta]

Yeah, they are. But I did like.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I guess maybe it's more her thing.

[Retta]

I did like that. She. Which language did she choose to speak?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, no, she speaks Spanish, doesn't she?

[Retta]

Was it Spanish?

[Jason Manzoukas]

And then Baby speaks Japanese. Yeah.

[Retta]

Calm the.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Well, I thought. I thought this was gonna be, like, they were gonna go all over the world, you know, to the point. To the title of the movie. They never Leave London.

[Co-host 1]

No, they went to Milan.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, okay.

[Co-host 1]

They went to Mil to shoot a music video with Gary Glitter.

[Retta]

And they had the exact same bus in Milan.

[Co-host 1]

They did. That bus traveled on the airplane. Oddly, that bus travels no problem.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Okay, So I just do want to talk about. Because Retta brought it up, and I was obsessed with it. So they have an old timey double decker bus that they. The Spice bus, which they travel around in.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. And they each have their own little pod in the bus. So they have their own character type that. The Barbie style thing. Yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It looks like a bus. That kind of bus from the outside with a big, you know, Union Jack flag on it or whatever. Then you walk in the bus which Meat Loaf is the driver of, which is amazing.

[Co-host 1]

Meat Loaf?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Meat Loaf is just their driver, I thought.

[Retta]

I think Meat Loaf was the best actor.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I felt like at some point, Meat Loaf will probably sing. Nope, nope. At some point, Meat Loaf will have his own scene.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's not true.

[Co-host 1]

He does.

[June Diane Raphael]

He does sing at one point.

[Jason Manzoukas]

He sings under his breath for a moment.

[Co-host 1]

And he does sell out his own music by going like, I love those Spice Girls. I'll do it. Anything for that. I would do that.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yep.

[Co-host 1]

But by the way, doesn't his character just disappear at one point? Like when they go to the. Yeah, okay.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Gone.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, no, no, no. He blew up at the end because there's a bomb on the bus.

[Co-host 1]

But you don't see that because Posh is.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, no, no. I thought that Posh was driving at the Bush drives. Yeah, Posh is driving.

[Co-host 1]

But go ahead. Yes, so go ahead.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Okay. So you walk in the bus, and the interior of the bus is an enormous set that is probably 2,000 square feet. Yes, it is. There's a balcony. Yes, there's a balcony. That would be the second enormous.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's bigger than our home.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's bigger than a home. Yes. And they each have their own little area. And they're acting on this set which is supposed to be the interior of the bus. Like, they're running around, they're fighting. They're having a pillow fight. They're on a. And Sporty's on an exercise bike. They're all doing all this stuff. And I'm like, this bus is in motion. This bus is driving the streets of London at Lantern. They do not obey.

[Co-host 1]

Sometimes recklessly. Sometimes recklessly.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They do not obey any of the physics of that. It is absolutely off.

[Co-host 1]

Where is. But I mean, where is Richard Grant's office? Richard Grant is their manager.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Upstairs.

[Co-host 1]

Upstairs. But you don't. So there's another level. There's like three levels on this double decker room.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like a balcony that you see it once. It's sort of.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And his command center where he gives.

[Co-host 1]

Announcements over a microphone like, please do not put the moisturizer in the refrigerator because some people will mistake it from mayonnaise.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Got that joke move on actual line from the mayonnaise.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was obsessed with the fact that in his office there were like three TVs of security camera footage of the bus.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yes. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

But like, they are hardcore perv. But here's.

[Co-host 1]

He is watching.

[June Diane Raphael]

They're the only people on that bus.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, yes. Except for.

[June Diane Raphael]

There's nobody else.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I'm sorry. Except for. When children are allowed on the bus. Are the children put in seats and put seatbelts on? No, they're allowed to wander around a moving bus, then are put on a speedboat.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now, those children, though, what for? People who haven't seen the movie get a day with the Spice Girls because they won competition.

[Jason Manzoukas]

A competition?

[Co-host 1]

What kind of competition?

[June Diane Raphael]

What is competition, though?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Is that a thing I felt like a sweepstakes.

[Retta]

I gotta admit to you, by that point, I really wasn't watching. The movie was on and I was.

[June Diane Raphael]

Just so angry and pressed totally fine.

[Retta]

So I couldn't follow along. I was like, what are these kids here for?

[Co-host 1]

I was like, yeah, those kids. Yeah, those kids. And then all of a sudden they're on a speedboat with kids.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I feel like that's the thing is like they. Some people, some parents gave these Spice. The Spice girls, like to 10 year olds. And then the Spice Girls a, are driving them around London, are like, we're so bored. Let's run off the bus, jump on a random speedboat and go speedboating around, which they then do. And then they and the little girls fall off of the speedboat. This is reckless endangerment.

[June Diane Raphael]

These movies that are like, for the fans that have no real story, that are not movies that are just sort of like, you know, other platforms for them to expose themselves are so interesting. It's not the first time this has been done, but it's like the whole plot of the movie is really. The Spice Girls don't wanna do their music for the fans. They want time off, just not perform.

[Co-host 1]

But here's my other thing. And this is the thing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

A morning off is all they want.

[Co-host 1]

Just a mo. Now, here's the thing. I understand that. I don't understand why it's so hard to put a simple plot around it. But here's my bigger issue with, with the plot of the movie, and I put that in quotes, is they are nervous about performing live at Albert hall.

[Jason Manzoukas]

For the first time.

[Co-host 1]

All they do is perform live the entire movie. They're performing live.

[Jason Manzoukas]

But they say over and over again, which I couldn't figure out, that this is going to be their first concert.

[Co-host 1]

But we've seen them perform in the movie they started.

[Retta]

Yeah, that's how they performed numerous times.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. And they are at the. In this movie, they are the height of the Spice Girls. It's not.

[Retta]

Cause they're in the papers all the time.

[Co-host 1]

Exactly. It's not like they're becoming the Spice Girl. They start off on live television. They go to Milan, they perform a live concert in Milan. They perform live, a fuckload in this movie.

[Jason Manzoukas]

But they keep talking about how this is gonna be their first. I don't know, there's some stakes to. I guess the first time it's been worldwide.

[Narrator]

Worldwide, live.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, like, I guess that's a. That's by the way, stretching on plot. Like. Well, this is the first Time we're performing live for the world.

[June Diane Raphael]

And they made a really strange choice with the editor of the newspaper. The guy who runs.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who runs the daily edition.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Well, the antagonist is the antagonist.

[Co-host 1]

Well, basically Rupert Murdoch. Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, he's Rupert Murdoch, but he. The reason why he wants to take down the Spice Girls is because they're on the front page of the paper every day.

[Retta]

But with. With good press.

[June Diane Raphael]

Right, but they're also. But they're selling a lot of papers. Yeah, that's what's.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Well, what's the circulation? Do we know?

[June Diane Raphael]

I didn't get any numbers on that, but that.

[Co-host 1]

No, but that was an interesting thing. Like he wants them. He wants to bring them down even. Cause he's. He already is selling.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I think he thinks the story. It will be longer lived. If he can. If he can create news being. Meaning them falling apart, them, blah, blah, blah, then he will own like those stories and his paper will be number one.

[June Diane Raphael]

His. He starts off as his paper being number one. And the Spice Girls.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Hey, listen, I don't understand why J. Jonah Jameson hates Spider man because it's only good news for him. But there's a long history of newspaper bad guys, especially currently in 1998.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's true.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I'm sure that's relevant still.

[Co-host 1]

I kind of like those scenes. I kind of like the newspaper bad guy. Look, when he gets angry, it starts raining in his office.

[Jason Manzoukas]

What was that?

[Retta]

I'm done with this. I'm done with this.

[Jason Manzoukas]

He slams his fist on the table. Lightning and thunder start striking. Then it starts raining on the man in his office.

[Co-host 1]

And no one comments because it is literally raining on one side of the office.

[Narrator]

You know, when you go get your car serviced, it feels like everything is wrong, right? Oh, you need to fix this.

[Co-host 1]

You need to get that done.

[Narrator]

And it just feels like, am I getting taken for a ride? Well, with Midas, you don't have to deal with upsells, intimidation, or unnecessary stress. From oil changes to tires, Midas provides the services that you need and doesn't pressure you into services that you don't. Midas believes in honest, straightforward auto care that you can trust. Welcome to Autocare without bad service. Visit midas.com for a location near you.

[Ben Mankiewicz]

Talking pictures, the podcast from TCM and Max is back with a new season. Here, host Ben Mankiewicz in intimate conversations with the people who live to make us laugh. Carol Burnett, Bill Murray, Paul Scheer, Henry Winkler, and more all join Ben to talk about the movies that made them. Talking pictures isn't just about film. It's about the powerful role movies play in our lives. It's about where you were, who you were with, and what you were feeling. Listen to talking pictures on Max or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator]

Are you interested on how ordinary people turn their big ideas into a business? I mean, we all have these wants. Like, I think I could actually do this. But maybe we just need some tips, some inspiration. Then this is Small Business behind the by is for you. It's the official companion podcast to the prime video reality game show. Buy it now. In each episode, you hear directly from the winning entrepreneurs, revealing the backstories, the challenges, and business strategies that have turned their dreams into a reality. This podcast explores every angle of what it takes to pitch, win, and build a thriving business. Tune into this Is Small Business behind the by, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-host 1]

That's the other thing about this movie that you think, oh, that's a fantasy sequence. Nope. No, no. It's all real at all.

[Jason Manzoukas]

But then there are fantasy sequences, like the. All the Spice Girls are pregnant fantasy sequence.

[Retta]

Crazy.

[Co-host 1]

We basically get super crazy. We get a glimpse of them. We get a glimpse of them as 30. That's basically what that was. When we go. We go like, I wonder what we'll be like at 30.

[June Diane Raphael]

How old are they in the. Because I always remember them as more kind of young teenage girls.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Like, they were never that. Oh, yeah, they were never that. Yeah.

[Retta]

I thought they were in their 20s.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, they got older, which is interesting, though. It's like, that probably couldn't happen now. Like, Jerry, sort of.

[Co-host 1]

Jerry halliwell now is 40, so the rest are 37. 98.

[Jason Manzoukas]

She was 27.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

So. Yeah. So there. Yeah, so there. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

And where did they come from? Were they sort of manufactured by.

[Co-host 1]

Well, they came from that. Yeah, I guess so. Well, they met. I mean, in this movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

Where did they meet in that piece? Spot at Rendezvous Cafe.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God. By the way, they totally abandoned David, or whatever his name was from the Rendezvous. Their thing is all about loyalty and friendship, but they totally bail on, basically their version of the Peach Pit. And because of that, because they didn't pay their bill, it closes.

[Co-host 1]

And who the fuck is Roger Moore then?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Is Roger.

[Co-host 1]

Roger Moore. Roger Moore is like, this guy who's like, their boss.

[Retta]

I don't under.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Retta]

I'm like, why is he so invested?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. I'm really obsessed with his assistant Deborah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Narrator]

Oh.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who's also wearing denim. She wears a denim jacket the entire month.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, wait. Richard Grant you're talking about Roger Moore. Oh, Roger Moore.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm sorry, sorry. I was talking about Richard Grant.

[Co-host 1]

All right, yeah, we can go to. Let's talk about. Yeah, let's. Richard Grant's assistant, who's a real time actor who was down the hill. I was just gonna say who.

[June Diane Raphael]

Secrets and Lies. She's like an amazing, amazing British actress.

[Retta]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. I was a little thrown by the fact that they totally hooked up and then he did exactly what she said to do. He dissed her afterwards. But then they had never addressed it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Never addressed it again.

[Retta]

At least I don't think so. I wasn't really paying attention.

[Co-host 1]

No. They basically go like, they share a knowing glance and then that's about it. Right. There's no real connection after all.

[Retta]

But I feel like they totally. He was like, I'm cool with that. And I feel like it happened. It happened.

[Co-host 1]

When he said, I'm cool with it, too. It seemed rapey to me. It didn't seem like. It seemed, like, creepy. It was like. It didn't seem like they'd have fun sex. It seemed like it would be bizarre and scarring.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's going to be disappointing.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Guys, so I'm sorry to go back to the Rendezvous Cafe, but the Asian pregnant lady was there and she was friends with them. Not pregnant.

[Jason Manzoukas]

This. And this, by the way, sorry. This is a flashback. And the introduction to this flashback is a very long time ago. A very long time ago. Right. So within the context of the movie. Within the context of the movie, they're showing a very long time ago. And when. In the far future, when they're 30. So you would assume that this movie can span a 15 to 20 year period. They look the exact same constantly.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I will also say that just to put you in the perspective of the Spice Girl, their first album came out, and then 10 months later, this movie and their second album came out. So they're really. Yeah. So within a year, their whole thing happened. So I guess time really was very fast way through.

[Retta]

That makes sense.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, but this Asian woman was so. It's just so interesting to have a character who's just like, friends with this girl group but not in it and all of that.

[Co-host 1]

No desire to be in it.

[June Diane Raphael]

No desire to be in it. And all she did was, like, press play on the boombox.

[Co-host 1]

But by the way, what kind of husband did she have that left her in the fourth trimester?

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, Trevor.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Trevor. That guy sounds like a real piece of shit.

[Retta]

That was her Husband, I don't think boyfriend.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Why do you? Why?

[Retta]

Which is another weird thing. You'd think in a girl power movie that she wouldn't be single and pregnant.

[June Diane Raphael]

But she pretty much was though.

[Co-host 1]

But she seemed very like she needed a lot of help.

[June Diane Raphael]

The other thing is that, is that once they realize they need to go that they're like abandoning their friends and they want to go take her out. They take a. How many months pregnant?

[Jason Manzoukas]

She's got to be nine months.

[June Diane Raphael]

Nine months pregnant? Yeah. Cuz she has a baby that night. They take a. A nine month pregnant woman to a nightclub.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Like a very loud packed and dance club.

[Co-host 1]

They abandoned her in the nightclub and they start dancing on the floor and she's like looking. And again, a lot of balcony work in this movie. The best use of balconies in any movie ever.

[Retta]

More so than Queer as Folk. And they had a lot of balconies.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, the other weird thing about the nightclub scenes, and there are many, is that you think it's at night and then they'll cut to an exterior shot and it's bright as day. Yeah, just bright as day.

[Co-host 1]

The movie knows no time or space. But. Was she drinking a beer? She was definitely drinking out of a can. That pregnant woman up there.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, I didn't notice.

[Co-host 1]

Maybe that beer helped the baby a little.

[Jason Manzoukas]

In England you can still drink when you're pregnant.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, it's totally cool. Cause it's on opposite side of the street and stuff like that.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah, exactly.

[Retta]

And in the States you can go to the club pregnant. They did it in Knocked Up.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Right. That is true.

[Retta]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, so. Oh my God, guys, guess what I just realized? The writer of this movie also wrote.

[Narrator]

From Justin to Kelly.

[Retta]

Of course it did.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Wow.

[Retta]

That makes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Unbelievable.

[Co-host 1]

That makes a lot of sense. And a movie called S Club 7, which, I don't know, that was a TV show.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I would argue that From Justin to Kelly is a better movie.

[Retta]

I feel like he kind of reeled it in.

[Co-host 1]

Which is.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a woman. Kim Turner, right?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Kim Turner.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah, I believe it's a man.

[Co-host 1]

No, I'm gonna go pick him.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Fuller. And I think it's Simon Fuller's brother who created America.

[Co-host 1]

You're right, it is a guy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, Kim.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Kim, I wanna talk about.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh my God. I have something enormous to talk about.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Okay, so I'm sorry to return to this, but on the bus that they exist on for most of the movie.

[Retta]

That was the turning point for me.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I was like, on this bus, they're Driving around.

[June Diane Raphael]

I first seen Retta, I gave up on it.

[Co-host 1]

Retta wrote me and she's like, I could watch Mission Impossible 3, 3 times instead of this shit.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It was.

[Retta]

Can we. Can I point out that it was $9.99?

[Co-host 1]

It was $9.99. I apologize to you guys who were buying this.

[Jason Manzoukas]

How dare you. It was just a few bucks.

[Retta]

And then I saw $9.99, so I started searching elsewhere.

[Co-host 1]

I went all over for it too. I thought for sure you could find it for rent.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Guys, I now own this movie, which is upsetting.

[Co-host 1]

If you look on my. I. My Amazon instant purchase. My first Amazon instant purchase.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Absolutely horrible. So they're on the bus and at one point they all have to pull the bus over to go to the bathroom out in the woods.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, yes, by the way, all of the bathrooms, all of the bathrooms have been jammed up.

[Co-host 1]

And Meat Loaf says, by the way, multiple bathrooms on this double decker bus. And Meat Loaf is like, hey, man, it's hard to get a plumber to come to your house, but it's even harder to get a plumber to come out to him. Moving bus. You couldn't move to a plumber. Yeah. By the way, it didn't seem like the plumber.

[June Diane Raphael]

You made stops.

[Co-host 1]

There's not much plumbing in a bus. No, you gotta. You shit in a pot. And then they empty that pot. That's it. That's it done. That is all it is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I think they do reference beforehand, though, that there's a lot of hair that's getting caught up in the drain.

[Co-host 1]

And the drains, which means that there's showers.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And these girls are shitting so much. The Spice Girls are their brains out.

[Co-host 1]

They're clogging up those toys.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's just like diarrhea out of their stupid tampons. You know what it is? It's just. Just full of sanitary napkins. Oh, just like.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't ever want to hear you say sanitary napkins.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Full of bloody sanitary napkins.

[Co-host 1]

Meme it. Get a meme. Get a meme. Zookas going on sanitary.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Bloody sanitary napkins. So they all jump out of the bus to run into the woods to pee. Right? And they've got flashlights. They're running. They're running. They're running. They run what appears to me to be a very long time.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And then a spaceship comes down.

[Co-host 1]

Like a Close Encounter style giant spaceship comes down. You're like, oh, my God, what's gonna happen?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Aliens come out. Literally aliens come out and their dialogue is like, Black, black, black, black.

[Retta]

Spice Girls understand. That was what I'm wrong at their understanding. I was like laughing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They are answering the aliens as if they understand their alien language.

[Co-host 1]

That's how worldly they are.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because the reason why that. The reason why that works. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

There is no reason why they are talking about aliens.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right, I won't tell you. I won't tell you.

[Retta]

Then I need to know.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'll tell you why. Because earlier in the movie, we've seen that the Spice Girls, basically, it's different language, different languages in every language. So it would only follow that they would know this.

[Co-host 1]

They would know Alien.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And they're not phased by the aliens. They're not like, oh, shit. Aliens are like, fans, fans coming out.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I guess these aliens are here.

[Co-host 1]

We just need to take a hot number two in the forest and. Fucking aliens.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Aliens. Aliens fucking love the Spice Girl.

[Co-host 1]

And they want to grab their boobs. They grab their boobs. They just shake. Oh, we gotta shake hands. But they go to grab boobs and.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Then the one guy's says, ginger Spice. Can I get a kiss? And Ginger Spice straight up kisses this shrunken headed alien dude on the goddamn mouth.

[Co-host 1]

Why is this happening?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Hey, hey, guys. This is irresponsible.

[Co-host 1]

You cannot say that the Spice Girls do not love their fans, no matter shape, size or hometown.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Easily could have given him a kiss on the cheek. She goes for the mouth, mouth. Holy cow.

[Co-host 1]

She'll take what she can get.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Barfed on that, man.

[Co-host 1]

Jerry got those alien sloppy seconds, man. O'Connell got that alien.

[June Diane Raphael]

My favorite moments of the movie is it's a small one and you may have missed it, but later on when they're in the hospital with the Asian lady. By the way, there's never a doctor in that delivery room. Only a nurse delivering.

[Jason Manzoukas]

There's a nurse, there's two nurses.

[June Diane Raphael]

The sound in that room is so terrible. It's like an echo chamber.

[Retta]

It's like they actually are like, you know, we have a location. Yeah, we're just gonna shoot in this room.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, just keep it in here.

[Co-host 1]

Keep it in.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was really weird. It was almost scary for a while.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It appears as though the Spice Girls are going to have to deliver the baby because they're not gonna. They're not gonna get to the hospital, okay? But instead what happens is they get to the hospital and the Spice Girls deliver the baby anyway.

[Co-host 1]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why when they deliver the baby, don't they say, like, that's girl power.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like, yeah, yeah, I did, like, that moment.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Guess what? None of them are. Steri. All still wearing their.

[Co-host 1]

That's why it's girl power. The girl. They don't have any.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's also really weird because earlier on, while they're waiting for her to deliver, they're sitting in the waiting room and a doctor's sitting next to them. Yeah, okay. But my favorite moment of the movie is right before they deliver the baby, there's a nurse that walks in. There's two nurses there, and they're. You know, the clock is ticking.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They're off to the side.

[June Diane Raphael]

They're off to the side, but the clock is ticking. They've got to get at this concert, you know, in minutes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

The Spice Girls here.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, by the way, doesn't even one of the nurses go, I'm going to see this?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, this is my favorite moment because the woman. Woman says, I have tickets to go see the Spice Girls tonight. And the other nurse says, oh, okay. And the woman's like, you know, taking off her stuff. She's ready to go to the concert, and she goes, I'll see you later. Hopefully.

[Retta]

Hopefully.

[Co-host 1]

Hopefully.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I think she means because the Spice Girls are still in the hospital room.

[Co-host 1]

Well, no, but why would that dictate?

[June Diane Raphael]

She didn't know that they were there. Cause the Spice Girls were all face drawn.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, she knows that's the Spice Girls, Jason.

[June Diane Raphael]

And you didn't have that woman.

[Jason Manzoukas]

So you're saying that woman's lying to me. I might die tonight.

[June Diane Raphael]

I might commit suicide. I don't.

[Co-host 1]

No, because another woman, she didn't deliver.

[June Diane Raphael]

It, like, looking at them, like, hopefully they get out of there. It was like she and the Spice Girls were listening to her and sort of looking behind them but not wanting her to see something.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That's why I think. That's why I think she was. It meant, like, hopefully, kind of a knowing gesture to say, like, hopefully you broads get on stage.

[Narrator]

No, you see, I thought she was.

[Co-host 1]

Saying, like, I'll hopefully see you tonight. Not like, I'll hopefully see the Spice Girls tonight.

[Retta]

Right.

[Jason Manzoukas]

She's saying goodbye to the other nerds.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'll see you, hopefully.

[June Diane Raphael]

See you later. I wrote it down. See you later, hopefully.

[Co-host 1]

See, it's not like I. Not like, I'll see the Spice Girls, hopefully. It's like, I'll see you later.

[Retta]

Hopefully you, my friend.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Because even if you're sure she wasn't speaking aloud to the Spice Girls.

[June Diane Raphael]

Can we pull it up? Can we pull up the moment I'm telling you.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Because that is. I agree, I noticed, but I assumed it was for the Spice Girls.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, no, no, no, Jason. She was speaking to the other nurse. Even if she did know the Spice Girls were there, which I don't think she did.

[Jason Manzoukas]

But you keep cutting to the Spice.

[June Diane Raphael]

Girls, hearing her, and it's reminding them in the context of the scene that they gotta go, right?

[Jason Manzoukas]

So that hopefully they see her later.

[Co-host 1]

No, she's not saying it to them.

[June Diane Raphael]

She's saying to the nurse, I'll see you later.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I know. I'm just trying to make sense of it because I genuinely don't think the woman is planning on dying later.

[Co-host 1]

Can I tell you my opinion of what happened? I don't know if I can pull it, but here's what I'll say I think happened. They did one take and that actress messed up her line. She was supposed to say, I'll hopefully see the Spice Girls tonight. See you later. And she just slightly dyslexic and read her lines in the Sides Rock.

[Retta]

And at that point, they had spent so much time like, we gotta go, we gotta do.

[Co-host 1]

We have like 57 setups today.

[Jason Manzoukas]

All the Spice are literally posh. Has her face in the pregnant woman's vagina.

[Co-host 1]

Basically, yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Like, they're all sitting around the bed and Posh, every time they cut to posh, she is just staring down the stirrups straight into this girl's fucking face.

[Co-host 1]

Girl power, bro. Girl power. I do want to talk about. Besides.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Co-host 1]

Besides talking about why George went wanted to take a free trip to the London and appeared in this movie.

[Retta]

You know what? I just realized why he was in my dream.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, cause you saw him in there?

[Retta]

Cause I forgot he was in the movie.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And I was like, wait, Reddit, did you have a sex dream about George Wen?

[June Diane Raphael]

He will spare detail.

[Retta]

He was like the dad of some guy that I liked in my dream.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That's so weird.

[Retta]

I just now realized that's why he was in my dream.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Let's unpack this. Let's get into it. Who is the guy that you liked and how did you have to get through?

[Retta]

He was very, very young.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, boy.

[Retta]

I think it's cause I met a bunch of very young boys last night.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, okay.

[Retta]

Interesting. Let's break this up.

[June Diane Raphael]

Spice Girls discuss their dreams.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah. And one goes. I had a dream performing just like yours, but mine was worse.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Retta]

My face was still there, my head was still there, but there was no makeup.

[Co-host 1]

No makeup on it.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I felt like there was large periods of this where I felt like they had lifted the entire plot from a Scooby Doo episode.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Retta]

Well, I felt like the moment that I thought I was like, oh, they're just gonna use all the cliches. That is. When the pregnancy came up, I said, of course.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Right.

[Retta]

But when I. The moment that made me say, oh, it's just gonna be these vignettes of things was when they went to boot camp.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Retta]

I was like, well, they were.

[Co-host 1]

Well, let's even put it in context. They didn't go to boot camp. They went to a dance instructor that turned into a boot camp.

[Retta]

A Nazi dance.

[Co-host 1]

A Nazi dance instructor.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's hard because all of this is, like, rationalized with the fact that it's. It's all under the umbrella of, like, every single plot line that you could come up with for a Spice Girls movie is in this movie.

[Co-host 1]

But that's not. But is that the rational Spice Force Five?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That'S the Mark McKinney thing in the end, where he's pitching different iterations of the movie that we've seen is that all of these things have just been those moves, those failed pitches or whatever.

[Co-host 1]

Well, I mean, that is a terrible way to build your movie around failed pitches. I mean, they basically are doing boot camp, a colorful boot camp in front of the Downton Abbey Castle. And they're running around, oh, how about.

[Jason Manzoukas]

How was the weird. Was that they live at Downton Abbey? Basically, yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Was that their home? Was that their home?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yes. They live in a haunted house, basically.

[Retta]

They say, I can't remember. Did they live there? Because I remember them standing in front of that thing where they're like.

[Jason Manzoukas]

When they have the scary dream, they all wake up.

[June Diane Raphael]

Rendezvous Cafe is where they used to live, above Rendezvous Cafe, I think.

[Retta]

I don't even remember Rendezvous Cafe.

[Co-host 1]

Rendezvous, where they sing their cafe. They tell me what you want. They're famous. Tell me what you want. Like what we really, really want. Oh, that was Rendezvous. Yeah, that was on.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah. And because they don't have enough money. They haven't made it yet. They don't have enough money. And he's like. They're like, put it on my tab. And he's like, you don't have any money. You don't have a tab. Whatever. And they're like, when we're big and famous, we're gonna pay you back. And then they play the new song for him, which is. I'll tell you what I want. What I really. That one, which is really catchy.

[Retta]

The thing. This is the one thing I'll say that I was very angry with the movie. I was very mad that I had to watch it. I had my back to it most of the time. So I was listening to it, but I really wasn't paying. But every time they sang, I turned around to watch.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, See, every time they sang, I fast forwarded.

[Retta]

Really?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Retta]

That's when the only time I paid attention to watch Glee.

[Co-host 1]

All right.

[June Diane Raphael]

I liked that one song, too, where they were raising their fists. Go on.

[Co-host 1]

Well, this is actually. Well, this is. I want to bring up two things about that. Number one, that scene that Go on scene, they're performing in Milan, and they get really offended that these men are shirtless, just wearing, like, wearing. Just like. They're wearing sailor caps and, like, bikini briefs. And they're like, this is disrespectful. We won't dance. The girl powering up.

[June Diane Raphael]

This is supposed to be corny, but this is really corny. Or something like that. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And then, so the compromise that they make is they put these men in leisure suits with their ass cheeks cut out. Yeah, with their ass cheeks cut out. And I'm thinking to myself, why did the Italian. The Italian guy who's putting on this concert want men's ass cheeks so much for the Spice Girls concert? It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, why? Like, what?

[June Diane Raphael]

I think they were just saying, like, I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

I know.

[Retta]

I did turn around for that as well.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And the beefcake is a beefcake part.

[Retta]

Well, yeah. When they were. Because we were performing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Sure.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Retta]

And. But it looked like they were fake to me.

[Co-host 1]

Fake ass.

[June Diane Raphael]

It looked like it was fake, but.

[Retta]

On the leisure plastic. Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I don't think they were, though. I think they were really cut out.

[Co-host 1]

That's just the Italian men.

[June Diane Raphael]

It looked like plastic. Yes, I agree. I agree.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Right? Is this movie supposed to be for, like, children? I don't. Because they are also in that moment, like, talking about, like, bone zoning the Italian men or why they can't, you know, like, Emma, that's where Baby Spice is. Like, well, I have this stuffed animal, and I have that stuffed animal, and.

[Co-host 1]

That'S what was too creepy for me.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And she goes, and so I just don't have room for you in my bed, darling.

[Co-host 1]

Or whatever.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And I was like, ew.

[Retta]

What?

[Co-host 1]

That's what creeped me out. I was like, I don't want to hear, like, I don't mind you being, like, cute like a little girl, and you have A lollipop. But when you're talking about, like, all the animals in your. I'm just saying that that was a creepy. A creepy part.

[Jason Manzoukas]

If you had to have sex with one Spice Girl, which Spice Girl would it be?

[June Diane Raphael]

Baby Spice.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Great question.

[June Diane Raphael]

Or Posh Guys, even a better question. If we were all Spice Girls, who would we be?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

[Retta]

I know who I'm stuck with.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, boy. Reda, you have to be the black one. You have to be the black. What? How dare you.

[Co-host 1]

Sorry.

[Jason Manzoukas]

How dare. I will happily be Scary Spice.

[Retta]

It's the hair.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think you're Baby Spice.

[Co-host 1]

You on Baby Spice? I'll take it. I'll take Baby Spice. Who are you?

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know. You tell me.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's a good one.

[June Diane Raphael]

I feel like I'm Sporty.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You might be sporty.

[Co-host 1]

I might be sporty.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I thought you could be Sporty, by the way. You could be Ginger, by the way. The one with all the talents.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think you're Ginger, actually. I kind of think you're ginger. Did Sporty have all the talent?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Sporty is the only one who can sing in that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Legitimately.

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And she's honestly the only person.

[June Diane Raphael]

What am I hearing? I'm popping.

[Co-host 1]

You might be posh. Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You're Victoria.

[Co-host 1]

You might be bosh. Can I just also talk. This is something you can find online. You can find online. By the end of that, Italian men assassin Gary Glitter comes out and he does a whole thing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's not convicted child molester Gary Glitter.

[Co-host 1]

Exactly. So when this movie came out, a week before the movie came out, he was convicted of being a child molester. So they cut that scene out of the movie. They shot this. This movie actually was plagued by a couple things. They had a joke about Princess Diana and Gianni Versace. They both also died right before the movie came out.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host 1]

So this movie had a lot of wins.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And there was a whole third act set piece that took place in the World Trade Center.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, actually, it's 1998, so it wouldn't matter, but.

[Co-host 1]

No, that impression. They saw.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They saw it coming. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

The thing that was most disturbing to me was Stephen Fry as the judge sentencing them to their future. It's like you'll be on reality pimping out the fact that you were Spice Girls. Like, oh, shit. They are. They are. Mel B is now on America's Got Talent, and I think the other was.

[June Diane Raphael]

One of them in Celebrity Rehab.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I don't think so.

[Co-host 1]

I don't think so. But they've been on reality shows.

[Retta]

Victoria and David had a show.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, they were on that.

[June Diane Raphael]

I didn't meet them, but I saw Victoria Beckham and David Beckham at a hotel once in the lobby. And they were very nice. I saw a lot of people run up to them and they were, they seem like very nice people. June. I just had to say that we.

[Co-host 1]

Weren'T attacking their character.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Retta]

The interesting thing, I really appreciate her because I, I was, I heard, I heard that she was the reason why they became so much bigger and more popular is because she was like, you have to stop talking to the press. Like, he's not bright. And he was always saying dumb shit. And she would, she was like, I love. I will have all the babies you want, but you gotta stop talking. You're not smart.

[Co-host 1]

Really.

[Retta]

You know, you're not smart and it.

[Co-host 1]

Just be a pretty face.

[Retta]

You look bad. So just limit what you say. Like, she was basically. She PR'd him. And then they just started getting big because he was visible, but he just wasn't. Cause you know how they'll show up to a red carpet and they'll be like, what do you think about Kristen Stewart breaking her toe? And you're like, one I didn't hear about it to why would I care about like, she's limping, whatever. And so people would, yeah, he would have long diatribes about shit that. Because he would just go on, you know, like as if he was talking to his boys.

[Narrator]

And you're like, hey bro, you already love Doordash. And now there's even more to love with the new Doordash Dash Pass Annual Plan benefit.

[Co-host 1]

All right, here it is.

[Narrator]

Drumroll, please. Max with ads is now included at no extra cost. That means you can have dinner delivered with DoorDash and settle in for a night on the couch watching the HBO original series House of the Dragon. Plus, while you're watching Gotham's own Oz COBB and the HBO's original series the Penguin, you can enjoy some New York City pizza or soft pretzel with DoorDash. And if you're rewatching Friends, don't be surprised if those coffee shop scenes make you crave having a latte delivered fast. Of course, you still get all your favorite Dash Pass Annual Plan benefits too. Like unlimited zero dollar delivery fees on eligible orders and exclusive member only offers and menu items. Sign up for Dash Pass Annual Plan and get Max included at no extra cost. It's your door to More terms and conditions apply. Max is now included with your Dash Pass Annual Plan stream Max with ads up to $120 value included at no extra cost terms apply. See doordash.com max for details.

[Co-host 1]

Hey everybody.

[Narrator]

Just wanted to give you a quick heads up here.

[Co-host 1]

There's something we should all be doing. It's going to improve your life.

[Narrator]

Make every day a little bit better.

[Co-host 1]

And that is.

[Narrator]

Eat more Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. Think about it. All the gurus, all the coaches out.

[Narrator]

There, they've never said the word words. Eat more Reese's. I mean the combination of sweet chocolate and salty peanut butter, I mean this.

[Co-host 1]

Is something that brings other people and ourselves joy.

[Narrator]

That's why there's two in a pack shop. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups now at a store near you found wherever candy is.

[Co-host 1]

Sold and often in my pantry because I love these.

[Narrator]

With big wireless providers, what you see is never what you get. Somewhere in between the store and the first month bill, the price just magically skyrockets. What happened there? Well, with Mint Mobile, you'll never have to worry about Gotchas again. When mint mobile says 15 bucks a month when you purchase a three month plan, they mean it. Now I gotta tell you, our producer Scott recently got fed up after noticing another surprise fee from his big wireless provider. And then he made the switch to Mint Mobile. He says not only is his new plan way cheaper, but now he knows exactly how much he pays every month straight up. To get this new customer offer and a new new 3 month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com HDTGM that's mintmobile.com HDTGM cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at mintmobile.com HDTGM $45 upfront payment fee required, equivalent to $15 a month. New customers on first 3 month plan only speed slower above 40 gigabytes on unlimited plan. Additional taxes, fees and restrictions apply. C. Mint Mobile for details.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, is it girl power? Is, are they really preaching girl power or anti girl power?

[June Diane Raphael]

I remember reading a statistic that said in the movies that were made in the last, like, well, since movies have been made when a baby is born, the phrase it's a boy has been uttered like 90% of the time.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Really?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. Like girl babies are not born in movies. And, and so I did, I have to say tear up a little bit when the girl baby was born. And she said, this is girl power.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Of course. Girl power.

[June Diane Raphael]

Girl power.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Jerry appears to deliver that baby. Ginger Spice apparently delivers the baby and is the first person to hold it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Which by the way, is crazy, because the scene before when they were in the bus almost delivering the baby. Their ideas about delivering babies are so horrifying.

[Jason Manzoukas]

So crazy.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's crazy. She's like. She's wearing stockings.

[Co-host 1]

But that's why I feel like.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And then Jerry screams into her vagina, stay in there. We're not ready for you yet.

[June Diane Raphael]

If I was that woman, I would be so terrified.

[Co-host 1]

I would not want the Spice Girls to deliver my baby.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I would not want my baby to be born on the Spice Bus. Otherwise, my baby definitely is gonna have chlamydia.

[Retta]

The Spice Bus, that has all kinds of.

[June Diane Raphael]

Although with that hospital room, I think the Spice Bus had more. It was more capable.

[Co-host 1]

Well, here I will talk about just about the end with Mark McKinney. He's like the hack writer who went to Harvard pitching these movie ideas.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And he's probably a Lampoon guy.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. They basically make the ending of the movie. They like, ah, why write it? Let's just have someone narrate the ending. Like, he narrates the most insane ending. And it, like, tries to draw together, like, anything that doesn't make any sense. It's just sort of like the movie goes from being like a film to just someone literally pitching the ending. And they just cut away to, like, moments to see it. It is actually the most clever and dumb thing I've ever seen in my life.

[June Diane Raphael]

What's really weird is that when he left, reveals the very end. He's like. And then they walk through the door just in time to make the concert. And then they don't. And then. What's his face? Clifford?

[Co-host 1]

Richard Grant.

[June Diane Raphael]

Richard Grant says to him, when they don't walk in, you lied to me.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And he starts choking him by the neck, which is confusing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

So is this movie. At which point Richard E. Grant then decides his only option is to commit suicide. And he fashions a noose out of rope. This is a children's movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

Everybody was going to that concert, was planning on committing suicide.

[Co-host 1]

That's it. The.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, Richard E. Grant. It's like. It is a mass suicide plot.

[Co-host 1]

They were gonna. They were like the Hellbox.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It's like a Heaven's Gate scenario.

[Co-host 1]

Wait a second. But you know what? This. This actually dilutes everything that you said because you were. Drink the Kool Aid, the Spice Girl koolaid. But now. So, like, basically, that. That. That contradicts everything that you guys said. That the. The. The. The boot camps is not part of a movie. Because then they shoot the movie after afterwards. Because the end of the movie, they're shooting the movie that he's pitched. So that would mean that the movie that we watched is all real.

[Retta]

Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

I actually think I know what it is now. I think the movie that we watched is the documentary that Alan Cullen.

[Co-host 1]

But he's never allowed.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, no, no. That doesn't make sense.

[Co-host 1]

Does he have fantasy?

[Jason Manzoukas]

The camera quality is much different, I think. I mean, I think it's. Honestly, I think it's a little bit of a cheat. I think the movie. The Mark McKinney bit at the end is meant to justify all the fantasy sequences. But then the last bit is meant to be a bit of, kind of. What's weird about it is in the. In the credit sequence. So there's a credit sequence in which it's behind the scenes, basically. And the Spice Girls are talking, the.

[Co-host 1]

Best part of the movie, Alan Cumming.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And Richard E. Grant. And everybody's talking about how they're gonna play their character or what they want them to do.

[Co-host 1]

Very self aware. Probably the most self aware and most.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Fun part of the interesting part. Except for Mark McKinney, who is still playing his screenwriter character.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. He is not Mark.

[Jason Manzoukas]

So I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing?

[Co-host 1]

Now, obviously, we had a pretty.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's really weird. I'm sorry. I'm just going back to. Richard E. Grant has a noose ready to go.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, by the way, also, he goes, I've broken up the Spice Girls at one point in the movie. And then they're back together literally within 30 seconds. They didn't break up. They didn't.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, my God. Remember when they all wind up at the Rendezvous in the middle of the night, alone on the London streets in pajamas?

[Retta]

That's the part that I was thinking. I was like. I thought that was their house. No, I thought they were saying that.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Was their old house.

[Retta]

They lived here then they walked from.

[Co-host 1]

The Downton Abbey house.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They walked from the British countryside to downtown London in pajamas.

[Retta]

Got it.

[Co-host 1]

And no one mopped them together on the eva. What? It's nighttime. Everyone's asleep in bed.

[Retta]

But they had the classic line, what are you doing here? Yeah, same thing. You are like, ah. I was like, check.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And by the way, they all. They all. This is what happened. They all left the same house and got to the same place, presumably taking the same route, and did not see each other.

[Co-host 1]

This whole movie feels like it was written down on cocktail napkins and someone looked here. That's a movie that doesn't make sense. Just don't worry, it's all there. It's like that comic book, Axe Cop is written by a five year old. So it's like, oh, now he's riding a dinosaur and he has this. It's like that's what this movie is. It was like as told to like a screenwriter. Obviously we had opinions about this movie, but there were some people who thought a little bit better of it. It's now time for a second opinion. These are five star reviews culled from Amazon.com.

[Jason Manzoukas]

These are second opinions from top to bottom. Crazy movies.

[Co-host 1]

Karen from Wisconsin writes, this is a carefree, fun movie for anyone. Well, not dumb people who think movies need plots and good acting to make an awesome movie. But this is what life is really like. Fly by your seat. What? Every. Fly by the seat of your pants. Enjoy every moment and dress up in funny costumes. Five stars.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh my God, that's awesome.

[June Diane Raphael]

That is what life is really like.

[Co-host 1]

I like this one here. This is the title is. It's so filled with girl power. Future is female.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh my God.

[Co-host 1]

This video is the bomb. My buddy let me borrow when I had no dosh to get it. I don't know what dosh is. I was having a bloke bummer day until I saw this. And cheers. I don't need a boyfriend to make my life complete. And this is for you, Sherry, my best buddy. Girl power. Five stars.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Although I'm almost positive that person was British and you should have read it in a British accent.

[Co-host 1]

I should have. Sorry, I apologize for that. And then finally say bloke. The final five star review. Spice Girls. There's five of them. They're singers. I loved it. Granted, there's no story or plot, but this is one of those rare movies that doesn't need a plot. Plus, if the English audio isn't funny enough, just turn it to French. It will make you giggle.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Co-host 1]

Five fucking stars. That is an easy. I like that. There are certain movies that just don't need a plot.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Don't need a plot.

[Co-host 1]

Holy moment.

[Jason Manzoukas]

At any point anybody wants to talk about Roger Moore feeding a baby pig, we can.

[Co-host 1]

Roger Moore douches out everything that he did as James Bond. In moments like he dresses as Blofeld, he does Martini jokes, but I don't even understand what he is crazy.

[June Diane Raphael]

There is a genuinely very funny scene in the movie where Alan Cummings is interviewing those two kids who are about to get on the bus. I mean, that was a funny bit and that really made me laugh.

[Retta]

Speaking of which I wanted to go back.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They were both girls, those two kids. Yeah.

[Retta]

I thought the little black one was a boy.

[Co-host 1]

I thought the black girl was a boy, too.

[Jason Manzoukas]

No, I think it's a little girl power.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, that is two little girls.

[Retta]

I really did think. I was like. When you said the two little girls fell in the water, I was like.

[Co-host 1]

I thought one was a baby in the little.

[Retta]

I definitely thought it was.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Was Sporty Spice the lesbian in real life or in.

[June Diane Raphael]

In the context of the.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, no, she just loves to go out on her exercise bike.

[Jason Manzoukas]

An exit. Like an old timey exercise bike. Like. Like not like any kind of modern exercise equipment.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, it was in the.

[Retta]

On the bus.

[Jason Manzoukas]

It was on the bus. It was literally on the bus. She's riding an exercise bike on a bus. Scary. Oh, sporty.

[Co-host 1]

Oh.

[Retta]

I thought she was on a. You know what? I really wasn't paying attention because I thought she was on one of these.

[Jason Manzoukas]

An elliptical.

[Retta]

I'm telling you, I got really a Nordic truck. And I was like, I wouldn't allow it to seep into my soul.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I have a question.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason Manzoukas]

At a certain point, it appeared as though the movie was only positing that they were their actual names. Emma, Jerry, blah, blah. And that they then discovered that their monikers were true because at some point somebody was like, to Victoria, you're so posh. I felt like there were a couple of moments where it seemed as though they were going to become those proof Personas, but then that never really. Did anybody else notice that?

[Retta]

They said. They said they did have. I. I hate that everybody thinks that we're only right.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Jason Manzoukas]

These things.

[Retta]

These, you know, these. The Persona from.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Which then.

[Retta]

And then they switched. They did this, which I.

[Co-host 1]

A great fashion montage where they all pretended they were each other.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And belittled. Each one.

[June Diane Raphael]

Pretended they were in different. They were like eras.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah. They were old timey.

[Co-host 1]

That was the thing. I think it was like, she's like, I wish people wouldn't stereotype us. This is posh. And then the first costume that Posh is in is Jackie O. It's like, yeah, that's the same. That is the same. You're doing the same thing.

[Jason Manzoukas]

That's posh from the past.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. You're not really, really mad.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I would have loved it if they were like, I'm so tired of being typecast. And then it was just all of them dressed as homeless people. Just disgusting.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, but in the movie, at the very end, when they were doing the behind the scenes thing, Aren't they saying that they don't want to be like, they don't want to be doing the things that they, they don't want to.

[Co-host 1]

Be riding a sport. They want to be riding an exercise bike. I like that end scene. That end scene to me was pretty great.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I like that too.

[Co-host 1]

It was all done in a oner and then they looked at the audience and they were like saying like, they were like, hey, I like your dress to the audience and stop eating your popcorn. It was really fun.

[Retta]

I took it as thanks for a 9.99.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Thanks.

[Co-host 1]

I just start giving you the finger. You. This is because there's.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Talk to you later, Red off the.

[Co-host 1]

Streaming of this 14 years later. And you just bought this for 10 bucks.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Thanks for 10 bucks. Reddit. You're going to dream about. George went tonight.

[Co-host 1]

I wish.

[Jason Manzoukas]

And I, I mean, like, this is what I cannot figure out because the movie is not very good and I get that they were hugely popular, but the, the cameo list in this movie is Elvis Costello. Elton John was there for a second.

[Co-host 1]

He doesn't even have a line. He's like, oh, hi girls.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Elvis Costello, Elvis Costello. Best character, Jules Holland. I mean, like Bob Geldof, Bob Hoskins. Yeah. The Jennifer Saunders, like, it's crazy, by.

[June Diane Raphael]

The way, is wearing a Versace T shirt. Does anyone else notice that? She's supposed to be like a high fashion person in the movie. Posh meets her at a. Or someone meets her at a.

[Jason Manzoukas]

At the dance club.

[June Diane Raphael]

At the dance club. And there's a joke about like she's asking her about all the brands and Versace and Prada and all this stuff and she's well, no. And then Posh says, yeah. Have you ever, have you seen the new manatee collection?

[Jason Manzoukas]

No. Manta ray.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, Manta Ray.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Talking about manta ray fish or whatever.

[June Diane Raphael]

Jennifer Saunders is like pretending to know what it is as a high fashion person. She is dressed and costumed. Her wardrobe is a blazer and a T shirt underneath that simply says Versace.

[Co-host 1]

Did anyone know who that one guy was? I think his name was Brad. When they were like, oh, Brad, you need to change your hair. And they gave him like a crazy, oh, Brad. I thought that was like a British person that I didn't know.

[Jason Manzoukas]

There's a bunch of those that I didn't know.

[Co-host 1]

The best one, the dude from the Wire as the photographer.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, of course, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was. How about Hugh Laurie?

[Retta]

Right?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Hugh Laurie in the flashback. Oh yeah, in that flashback with the mustache, like the French or Whatever that was.

[June Diane Raphael]

I didn't even notice.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah. Like, everybody's in this movie.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. I think there were just like 10 actors in the UK at any time. They have to all be.

[Jason Manzoukas]

They have to.

[Co-host 1]

You gotta be in it.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You have to do everything.

[June Diane Raphael]

Spice Girls were really huge, though.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah. I mean, the movie was very popular. It was. Well. Yeah. I'm not joking. Yeah, I think it did do well. I'll double check.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I have to pause. I have to go to the bathroom.

[Co-host 1]

Okay. There we go. I think we're gonna be wrapped up, so there we go. Would anyone. Would you recommend it?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Oh, yeah. 100%. Oh, wait, no, no, no. It's 999. If you could stream it or something like that, I would say yes. But no, I would not Advocate anybody spend $10 on this.

[Co-host 1]

No, June. You would.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I'm gonna get on June side. I say you should watch it. That is it. That's us. Just quick plugs, Reddit. What do you have to plug?

[Retta]

Oh, I'm headed to Miami tomorrow.

[Co-host 1]

I don't know when this will come out on Tuesday morning.

[Retta]

So I'll be. Tuesday night I will be at Florida Institute, Florida International University. Then Thursday, I'll be at Windows. Yeah. Then I'll be at Williamsburg or William and Mary in Williamsburg on Thursday. And then I'm shooting some Nickelodeon comedy thing on the following.

[Co-host 1]

I like it Monday.

[June Diane Raphael]

Do you come to the shoot?

[Jason Manzoukas]

Should we be there?

[Retta]

It's in New York.

[Jason Manzoukas]

We'll be there.

[Co-host 1]

And we can follow you on Twitter right at. Oh, how was it?

[Narrator]

Unforetable. Right?

[Retta]

Unforedable.

[Co-host 1]

All right, so we can follow her on Twitter.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Unforeseen.

[Co-host 1]

June. Bernie. Burning love season two and season three.

[June Diane Raphael]

Season two is still on burninglove.com and season three is coming out.

[Co-host 1]

Jason, what do you got going on in the bathroom? Is a one or a number two?

[Jason Manzoukas]

I gotta do a number one right now. Still not on Twitter, so please don't follow me.

[Retta]

Are you not on Twitter?

[Jason Manzoukas]

No.

[Co-host 1]

People want him to be on Twitter very badly.

[Retta]

I'm obsessed with it.

[Narrator]

You are.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I wake up. Really?

[Retta]

Swear to God.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Reda, examine your life and the choices you make.

[Retta]

Who are you telling?

[Co-host 1]

Who are you telling?

[Retta]

But I will say it's gotten a lot of things. I just got asked by the LA Kings to come watch a game and tweet tweets.

[Co-host 1]

Your tweets are hilarious when you're watching. You do a lot of Watch TV tweets. That's good.

[Jason Manzoukas]

I like that.

[Co-host 1]

And you've been one of the most requested guests that we have had on the show. People like you. Yes. People were begging us to get you on the show. So there you go.

[Retta]

It feels nice.

[Co-host 1]

All right, so that is it for me. You can pick up Alien vs Parker in the comic book shop. You can check me out on Twitter. And Jason and I, I guess we just got good news that the league has picked up for another two years.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Did that happen really? Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And we're going to be on a new channel called fxxx.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Yeah. Very exciting facts. The fourth channel, formerly Fox Soccer.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. So check that out. And. And you can check out Instagram every day for pictures from the upcoming season of NTSF. See you next time.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Bye.

[Narrator]

With the $5 meal deal at McDonald's, five hits. Different. Five gets you a McDouble or a McChicken and a small fry and a small drink and a four piece McNuggets. Five gets you more at McDonald's. Prices and participation may vary.

[Co-host 1]

For a limited time only.

[Jason Manzoukas]

You hear that, America? The mountain is called calling you on.

[Narrator]

This rainy Sunday evening with a very important message.

[Co-host 1]

Get off your ass.

[Narrator]

So grab an ice cold Mountain Dew, some friends and do something you'll enjoy.

[Jason Manzoukas]

Even more than the punch lines you're laughing at. The mountain is calling answer.

[Narrator]

Do the do.