Morbius LIVE! (Classic)

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – Morbius LIVE! (Classic)

Episode Date: June 16, 2026
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Location: Live at the Chicago Theater

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Overview

In this classic live episode, Paul, June, and Jason descend on the Chicago Theater to dissect (and ridicule) the infamous comic book flop, Morbius. With Jason’s comic book background, Paul’s comedic precision, and June’s surprising affection for Jared Leto, the panel unpacks the film’s inexplicable narrative choices, baffling science, and its place (or lack thereof) in the Marvel universe. Along the way, they riff on questionable character motivations, odd filmmaking, audience logic gaps, and, of course, utter nonsense about blood, bats, and “Morbin’ time.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Morbius": The Premise, the Plot, and the Puzzlement

[02:55-07:22]

• Paul summarizes Morbius as “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Vampire,” noting its similarity to Batman and Daredevil but saying “not much happens.”
• Jason admits: “I've been waiting, waiting for Morbius the living vampire to enter our cinematic universe. … I haven't been. This is a character I don't care about.”
• The hosts are baffled by the Marvel “In Association With” title, agreeing: “It’s like we live next door to Marvel.”
• June asks in pure sincerity: “I think I asked you, Paul, at one point, is this Batman?”
• They agree Morbius feels more like a re-run filler: “It’s a perfect rainy day movie for a channel that plays Two and a Half Men reruns.” – Paul [09:20]

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2. The Hosts' Surprising Reactions

[06:18-07:03]

• June: “I love this movie.”
• Jason: “What on earth is happening?”
• The hosts joke that June’s hot take could end the podcast on the spot.
• All agree, compared to other stinkers, Morbius is “so easy” to watch [07:03].

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3. The Comic Book Context and Character Confusion

[07:22-09:16], [09:55-10:15]

• Jason’s comic background reveals: “Morbius, the living vampire, is a…also-ran Spider Man kind of good guy, bad guy, kind of in that category that I’m not even that familiar with.”
• June watched the movie without any comic background and treats it as a Batman variant.
• They note the character is essentially a blend of Spider-Man, Batman, and, via medical science, Daredevil.

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4. Bizarre Science and Superpowers

[13:37–19:46]

• The group clowns on “bat DNA,” hollow bones theory, and echolocation.
• Paul: “I believe that vampire bats...or bats in general have hollow bones. Am I right?” Cue: audience laughter and confusion. [17:06]
• Jason: “He never struggles with his body…He can fly. He can do anything…I’m immediately incredible at this.” [19:00]
• June wishes the film explored Morbius experiencing health before superpowers: “The heart of the story I actually think is really compelling. They just didn’t really do anything with it.” [15:39]

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5. The Supporting Cast and Questionable Choices

[20:07–21:01, 22:36–24:00]

• The hosts are delighted by Tyrese (who almost had a robotic arm in cut scenes).
• Jason: “All I wanted was for him to be his character from Fast and Furious!” [12:41]
• Martine's blind trust in Morbius is lampooned: “She’s not hiding the bat work! [She] knocks on a giant tube full of bats.” [20:07]

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6. Matt Smith’s Villain: Motivation Mystery

[24:00–26:39, 59:30–61:19]

• Jason insists: “Matt Smith is absolutely devouring this movie.”
• Paul and June discuss systemic ableism in the story, showing sympathy for Matt Smith’s tragic arc, but agree his transition to evil is abrupt and unearned.
• Jason: “He has no plan. He has no want. …Other than to dance.” [61:19]

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7. "International Waters," Labs, and Logic Leaps

[33:07–34:43, 36:18–37:28]

• The “illegal” research is mocked for only being 13 miles off Montauk.
• Jason: “Just charter a boat and build a lab in it—why do you need gun-toting mercenaries?”
• Scenes of Morbius converting a counterfeiting lab to a blood lab in seconds are called out as “absolutely insane.” [36:57]

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8. Marvel Multiverse and Muddled Worldbuilding

[47:27–51:56]

• Post-credit confusion: Michael Keaton as Vulture, displaced by Doctor Strange’s Spider-Man spell.
• Jason and Paul parse whether any of the MCU rules apply here at all.
• June: “So that wasn’t Batman?”
• Jason: “You have every right to think that.”

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9. Audience Q&A and Second Opinions

[69:16–73:39]

• Audience asks about anachronistic settings and the mouse/bat/human genetic experiments.
• The hosts roast Amazon’s 5-star reviews; Jason: "Wouldn't this movie have been so much better if it was a horror movie?" [72:54]

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10. Behind the Scenes: Bat on the Wall

[75:38–81:34]

• An anonymous crew member reveals:
  • Jared Leto’s extreme (and disruptive) method acting—using crutches for bathroom breaks [76:03].
  • Leto’s earwig and endless ad-libbing left scenes unusable; includes bizarre lines like “That cat just shit in my mouth.”
  • Alternative endings involved Morbius and Martine soaring off together.

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• [06:21] June: “I love this movie.”
• [09:20] Paul: “It’s a perfect rainy day movie for a channel that plays Two and a Half Men reruns.”
• [14:48] Paul: “He’s feeling 'morbin' good.”
• [19:00] Jason: “He can fly. He can do anything. I’m awesome. I’m immediately incredible at this. Done. I’m Leto. Get to work. You need me to be jacked, Leto?”
• [36:57] Jason: “He takes out, like, the ink cartridge [from a printing press] and [now] it’s a blood machine!”
• [47:27] June: “Why does Morbius refer to himself as Venom? Is he not?”
• [61:19] Jason: “There is no clear villain’s motive. He doesn’t want to do anything but dance and flirt with girls and kill.”
• [84:04] Jason (on whether to recommend the film): “Would I recommend this movie? Fuck, yeah. It’s morbin’ time, baby.”

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• 00:00–01:43 – Ads & Opening
• 02:55–07:20 – Recap, initial impressions, Marvel affiliation jokes
• 09:13–09:47 – Watching the movie “fresh,” the “Two and a Half Men” analogy
• 14:28–15:39 – The science of Morbius’ powers, bat logic
• 23:30–24:13 – Jared Leto’s not-method acting quote
• 33:07–34:43 – International waters and “evil” mercenaries
• 47:09–51:58 – MCU/Morbius/Venom/Vulture multiverse confusion
• 59:30–61:19 – Matt Smith’s “villain” arc
• 69:16–71:26 – Audience Q&A (labs & genetic science)
• 75:38–81:34 – “Bat on the Wall” crew member secrets
• 84:04–85:19 – Should you watch Morbius? (Spoiler: Yes, for the laughs)

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Funniest Moments & Running Gags

• Morbin’ Time: The infamous meme phrase is referenced and embraced throughout for maximal audience delight.
• Bats, Bones, and Science Nonsense: Repeated riffs on hollow bones, echolocation, and laughable “movie science.”
• Venom/Vulture/MCU Mix-ups: The hosts and audience struggle (often hilariously) with the film’s multiverse pretensions.
• Jared Leto Stories: Behind-the-scenes revelations about Leto's method acting and bizarre improvs (e.g., “cat shit in my mouth”).
• Chicago Shout-Outs: Frequent playful engagement with the Chicago crowd, especially the rowdy balcony (“If you’re a scientist in the balcony, you’re not a scientist…”) [17:01].

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Host Recommendations

• Jason and Paul ultimately endorse the film—not because it's good, but because it’s prime “bad movie” hilarity.
• June is genuinely impressed with Jared Leto and finds parts “easy to watch.”

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Guest & Audience Participation

• A local audience “nerd” (“Michael”) acts as the on-the-spot Marvel fact-checker [57:42] and is humorously referenced throughout.
• Audience Q&A brings extra laughs, especially regarding the bizarre science and 5-star Amazon reviews.

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The Legacy of Morbius (and this Episode)

• The hosts agree: Morbius is a monumentally silly, “incompetently competent” pseudo-Marvel disaster.
• The podcast’s brilliant, good-natured snark and the raucous energy make it an essential “How Did This Get Made?” episode.

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In the words of Jason Mantzoukas [84:10]: “It’s morbin’ time, baby.”

Transcript

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

Morbin time

[Paul Shearer]

We saw Morbius so you know what that means.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now it's time for star hottest Schwarzenegger

[Paul Shearer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

to hitting cruise control J man Big Paul and the beautiful Jewel gonna take

[Paul Shearer]

you from the groove all the way to the room Ren against the street fighter help to blow off steam just a sucker punch the eye life of Timothy green sharp Jimmy how we staying alive they call me when they're badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad gym funny looking kind and nice Paul is June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting and just a bunch of movies while we making the grave Here's a real question for you. How did this get made?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hello people of Earth and hello people of Chicago.

[Paul Shearer]

We are live at the Chicago Theater and we are so excited to talk about a movie that changed a generation. Some say it might be the best Marvel affiliated film ever. Technically not a Marvel film because I've never seen that weird title above Marvel before. In association, it's like we live next door to Marvel. But if you need to know the plot, Morbius, it's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Vampire. I don't know. It's a weird story about a man who doesn't have the right DNA. But vampire bats do. I think we learned a lot of bad things about vampire bats that aren't true. And if you're looking for something scary, don't worry, you won't find it here. Surprisingly, in the hour and 48 minutes of this film, not much happens. But we are gonna break it down tonight with my co host. Please welcome Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's up jerks? Ha ha ha. How we doing Chicago? That's what I'm talking about.

[Paul Shearer]

Give it up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Balcony.

[June Day]

Haha.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we are. I need to watch Morbius. Question mark.

[Paul Shearer]

We definitely watched Morbius. That is a true statement.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yesterday you said something that, that I. I will say I put into effect today. Which is you admitted that you watch some things. Yes. At a faster speed.

[Paul Shearer]

100.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was like, yikes, that sounds like a great idea. So I started doing it on Morbius earlier today. Yeah, okay. There is so much slow mo in this movie that I was like, what's going on? Because sometimes it would be like normal and then sometimes it would be like. And then I tried to mess with it and inadvertently I watched like 15 minutes of the movie and at 75, I w. I made it longer. I watched this movie for longer than you did.

[Paul Shearer]

I don't understand why you can go below the normal speed.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because you really want to drink it in.

[Paul Shearer]

Occasionally I will make that mistake in an audio book and I'm like, come on, get to the point. And then I realize it's my mistake. But no, I watch this in real speed. I don't for how did this get made? I don't fuck around. I watch it in the right aspect ratio. I rent out a theater. I sit there by myself. I do all the research. No, I watch these all in the real speed. But you know what? I was upset because I love watching Marvel movies. I love those films. And I know I only have a few chances to get June on board with those. And this is where I wasted that. But let's hear it from her, please. Look at my co author, co host

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June Day on radio.

[Paul Shearer]

Welcome June.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hi Paul, how are you?

[Paul Shearer]

I'm well, thank you. How are you?

[June Day]

Good. I Love this movie.

[Paul Shearer]

Wow. What.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What on earth is happening?

[June Day]

I enjoyed it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Black it out. Show's over.

[June Day]

I enjoyed it quite a bit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was weird. The final episode of the how did this get Made Podcast was only one and a half minutes long.

[Paul Shearer]

Chicago saw historic podcast in the making.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June had a take so hot, we had to wrap the podcast.

[Paul Shearer]

But you know what? I'm happy to hear you say that. And I will say, I don't know if it's the fact that we've been on tour and we've watched so many bad movies.

[June Day]

Yeah, we're not. Well, yeah.

[Paul Shearer]

Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, if we're gonna compare this to Oogie loves this one.

[Paul Shearer]

Went down easy.

[June Day]

So easy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, I do agree with that.

[Paul Shearer]

So Morbius is, you know, is a grand film. You know, it spans a quarter of a century. You know, we're. We're following these characters from 25 years ago all the way to the present. I mean, I just love Jason. As a comic book fan, you know, I think that you probably feel like

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I've been waiting, waiting for Morbius the living vampire to enter our cinematic universe. I haven't been. This is a character I don't care about. Morbius, the living vampire is like a also ran Spider man kind of good guy, bad guy, kind of in that category that I'm not even that familiar with.

[Paul Shearer]

I mean, he's part Daredevil, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. All the echolocation stuff, all the. I can hear everything.

[Paul Shearer]

He's fart Spider man, which we kind of address because he got bit or he has put the blood in. Whatever. And then I would say this movie makes him mostly Batman. Like, the fact that he doesn't call himself Batman upset me. Like you are using bats to attack. Don't just use your doctor name like

[Jason Mantzoukas]

it's his real name.

[June Day]

But I would never. I would never go to a doctor whose last name was Morbius.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Day]

Like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Never.

[June Day]

But see, approaching the movie with no knowledge, because I think I asked you, Paul, at one point, is this Batman?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you said, am I watching Batman?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[June Day]

Is this sort of another version, like another kind of take on Batman's origin story? And I don't know much about any of these gentlemen. Batman, Spider Man. But Batman's origin story, like, I do know.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[June Day]

So I thought, well, he sees his parents get slaughtered in an alley.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, great.

[Paul Shearer]

Wow. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you.

[June Day]

Yeah, I do know that. I know that. But I was like. But if you. And I would recommend another viewing, erasing all of the comics you've read and just Approaching it anew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Don't do it like this. Erasing. Erasing all the comics you read and

[June Day]

just approaching it like it's a brand new thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thing.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[June Day]

And you might enjoy it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul.

[June Day]

You did enjoy this movie, by the way.

[Paul Shearer]

I said I enjoyed it. Okay, I was surprised. Look, is it a good movie? No, but it is competently made in parts, but also nothing happens. Like it's a weird thing. It's like a perfect rainy day movie to watch on like a channel that plays like mostly like Two and a Half Men reruns. Like, like it's like. Well, that's the only channel they get.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Channel is that. And are you watching it?

[Paul Shearer]

I mean, isn't that what TBS is? Pretty much that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like yeah. Two and a Half Men. And Morbius. Morbius. Morbius posits a world in which you want to know what the coolest thing is in 2022? Bullet time. We did this already. We did. I could see the bullet coming and dodge it. That's the Matrix. Come on.

[Paul Shearer]

To me, the best thing about Morbius simply was his doctor's outfit which looked like a very high class chef outfit. Like I've never seen a doctor that has like a button around the neck. He looked like a priest. Doctor, chef.

[June Day]

I was so obsessed with his lab because they're do they are doing clinical trials there for at least one patient. Anna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, she's in there.

[June Day]

Anna is in there. And I guess maybe still currently in a coma.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My assumption, my assumption is we'll be in a coma forever.

[June Day]

Wait, it's really tough because I spent the entire movie and the two post credit scenes thinking when will we take this vial to Anna or wake her up?

[Paul Shearer]

Well, this is interesting because I forgot a big part of this movie. There is a moment where the King of Sweden gives him an award, right?

[June Day]

The Nobel Prize.

[Paul Shearer]

The Nobel Prize. So he gets the Nobel Prize.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, does he get the Nobel Prize?

[June Day]

Yes, he created artificial blood. Of course he did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? I think it was happening so slow on my screen that I wasn't processing.

[June Day]

You couldn't help but to miss it at that.

[Paul Shearer]

It is said so quickly because it's just a quick cut to it. It's like Nobel Prize. Anyway, we're back in the lab. Like wait, wait.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Huh?

[Paul Shearer]

Well, buddy, we just traversed 25 years. Then we go forward to synthetic blood and then we're back in. Like there's so much going on. But synthetic blood seems like, isn't that healing him? Isn't that working?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, but it's for shorter and shorter periods until. Oh, go ahead.

[Paul Shearer]

After he got bit by the vampire bat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. I think he's looking for a cure, Like a full blown cure. And I don't think synthetic blood is it.

[Paul Shearer]

So that's like insulin for him. He's like, it's not curing it. I have to do something more drastic.

[June Day]

The thing that's tricky is I believe, and I'm sure someone's going to shout it out, but I believe that that artificial blood is impacting the world in a huge way. Right. That Tyrese says later on that it saved him in the battlefield.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, Tyrese is in this fucking room doing great work. And thank God. When Tyrese showed up, I wrote, thank God Tyrese is here.

[Paul Shearer]

And then when Tyrese ceases to be funny, I'm like, oh, no. Why Tyrese? Why did they take the funny guy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All I wanted was for him to be his character from Fast and Furious. Yeah.

[Paul Shearer]

He's like, are you telling me you

[Jason Mantzoukas]

got vampire blood in your body?

[Paul Shearer]

Like, no, he's this dead serious. But in the trailer or one of the trailers, there's multiple trailers with extra scenes. Tyrese does take off a jacket and reveal a robotic army.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[June Day]

Oh,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

okay. The balcony needs to chill out. I know that's hard because you're in the balcony and you're already most of you, pissing your pants.

[Paul Shearer]

But yes, like Tyrese's character, there are multiple reshoots here. Tyrese's character did have a robotic arm. So I feel like they also were trying to show something there which makes sense because when tyrese is chasing Dr. Morbius, and I'll call him by his doctor name, Dr. Morbius. He manages.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I call him Mike.

[Paul Shearer]

He manages to get to the top of the building as quick as Morbius and Morbius did. The, like, Morbius, like, flew up there bouncing off walls, and Tyrese got up there real quick with the wind. What happened with the wind?

[June Day]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is that wind? I In the subway tunnel as well.

[Paul Shearer]

I get the subway tunnel because I feel like that's the subway tunnel pushing the wind forward.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree with you there.

[June Day]

I think that also happens, but it

[Jason Mantzoukas]

happens on a rooftop.

[June Day]

And I, I, I thought it was just a windy day.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And, and no, no, I, I.

[June Day]

Once you're up there, there. I think what was happening was, you know, he's constantly trying to. Morbius trying to understand what his body can do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Power set is.

[June Day]

Yes. What his power set is, because he's adjusting to. This is where I like the Movie. He's adjusting to not only being, you know, out of the prison of his illness, but and being. And feeling good, but actually feeling like more than good, which is superhero level now, where I think there was a missed opportunity.

[Paul Shearer]

He's feeling more been good.

[June Day]

What'd you say?

[Paul Shearer]

He's feeling morbin good.

[June Day]

I think he. I thought where we were going is

[Jason Mantzoukas]

that he more been good.

[Paul Shearer]

Morbin good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got it, Got it.

[June Day]

I wish we had seen him think he was a superhero or had superpowers before he actually did because he spent his life afflicted by a very serious illness.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I see. So you, you would have. Wait, Thought he had superpowers or just was healthy?

[June Day]

Superpowers. Well, he doesn't have a barometer. What it feels like to be healthy ever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what I'm. That's what I'm saying. I would have loved it if we had a scene where he's like, I did it. I'm healthy. I live in the real world. Before he like turns into like a blood sucking vampire and murders a bunch of people.

[June Day]

Either way, I just think that was such a. Because the heart of the story I actually think is really compelling. They just didn't really do anything with it, you know. But I think what was happening with the wind anyway, to go back to the wind on the rooftop. I think what was happening was that it was simply just a windy day and we were watching a man with superpowers like, brace himself to not get thrown off by the wind.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think what it is is. And I think this is what it is. But I don't think it's successful or I think it's too confusing. I think what it is is he. Now, one of the. One of the elements of his power set now is that he can fly and he yet doesn't know it, but his body is processing air currents everywhere.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, can I tell you why?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So that. Yeah, so that he can fly. Because bats are blind and they fly off of the air is what I'm saying.

[Paul Shearer]

I thought. Oh, I thought that when he has this blood, he gets hollow bones. Like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry, Paul, we didn't get that. Can you repeat it? I'm so sorry. What now? I believe.

[Paul Shearer]

And scientists in the audience. I know there's a lot. Back me up. I believe that vampire.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You think scientists are in the balcony

[June Day]

on a Sunday night.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you're a scientist and you're in the balcony, you're not a scientist.

[Paul Shearer]

I believe that vampire bats, or bats in general have hollow bones. Am I right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And birds. Birds have hollow bones.

[Paul Shearer]

Birds. Same difference.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, Birdman is in this.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[June Day]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, wait, so you thought that the wind was. Because his bones were now hollow?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah, because he's lighter.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. But I. Well, then we're kind of saying the same thing, because I don't think it's. That he's. Wouldn't it have been amazing if he took. If he gets bitten by the vampire and of all the transformations you see, you watch the marrow get sucked out of all of his bones.

[Paul Shearer]

That's what. That's what's trailing him whenever he jumps up. That's bone marrow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Bone marrow. No, I think it's his. I think he is.

[Paul Shearer]

Look, because bat bones are hollow, allowing them to be light enough to fly, they're unable to produce the B cells needed for immune function in their bone marrow like other mammals.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, so they're unable to combat viruses?

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, so now I have a new set of problems. Without that marrow, baby, they are prone to viruses. This guy is riddled with virus. No, my thing is, I think the first time on the rooftop, it happens. The wind is blowing. It's just the wind, but they're visualizing it because he's like, what the fuck is this wind? The same way they're trying to visualize. I can hear across town. They're trying to visualize all of these bat specifics, these bat senses.

[Paul Shearer]

I also think that his hearing is bullshit because he seems to selectively cancel out the entire city. Unless it's like, oh, I can hear down the hall in this one minute, like, the nurse is killed. What happened to the nurse? She was killed. Oh, shit. What happened? Like, you would think he couldn't sleep because the noise would be like, he never.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The thing that happens that we. What's wonderful about Daredevil's powers when he gets them as a child is that when he loses his sight and all of his other senses because he gets toxic waste dumped on him, and all of his other senses heighten. He's almost driven insane. But by the amount of input he's now getting, he can hear. It's a cacophony of sounds that he cannot control. We never see Morbius struggle with his body. He is like, wait, I can fly. I can do anything. I'm awesome. I'm immediately incredible at this. Done. I'm Leto. Get to work. You need me to be jacked, Leto. Okay. I need to be skinny in one scene, and then I'm full blown jacked. Leto, carry me around set. But I'm jacked.

[June Day]

I loved it.

[Paul Shearer]

He literally plays one game of handball. Just one. And he's got it. Figured it out. Got my powers down. Like, he nails it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's not even playing a game. He's just tossing a ball.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he's like, can I do this? Yep, I guess. I'm a fucking cool ass vampire. But not the kind that's not cool with the sun.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, the big issue that I had in the beginning was his love interest Martine. You know, she comes in and it feels like she's catching him in the act. She's like, what are you doing? And then proceeds to knock on a giant tube in the middle of his office full of bats. He's not hiding the bat work like she presents. Like, I know you're working on something secretive. Ding, ding, ding.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? There should have been. There should have been an administrator, somebody who was like, I don't like these bats in here. I don't like what you're up to. I don't like your long hair. I don't like your too trimmed, too dark beard for someone your age. There's definitely gray in there. You are not a doctor, sir. You are Jared Leto.

[Paul Shearer]

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[Paul Shearer]

Let me tell you something, people. When you have a bad hire at your job, it wrecks everything, okay? It costs you time, it costs you money, it costs you momentum. And when you're a small business, you can't afford that. You need a good hire, and you need it right away. But finding great talent isn't easy. So that's where LinkedIn's new hiring pro can screen candidates for you. So instead of sorting through applicants, you spend time talking to the right ones. Get started by posting your job for [e-mail] valuable terms and conditions apply. I will say this. Jared Leto did say he did not have to do method acting for this role because. Because. And this is A true quote, Dr. Morbius and him share a similar personality.

[June Day]

Okay, that's really interesting, because one of the reasons why I really love this movie, obviously, is because of Jared Leto, but also, I think, found him to be so watchable and easy.

[Paul Shearer]

I loved him in this.

[June Day]

I loved him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I think I. And I mean, I. I thought Jared Leto was fine, but to me, Matt Smith is absolutely devouring this movie. This is the performance. Matt Smith is where I'm at.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, hold on one second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give me an entire movie about Matt Smith. Me. No. Stat. Hold on. That's a medical term.

[Paul Shearer]

Hold on. All you Doctor who nerds, take that out of the equation.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, Doctor who. Yay.

[Paul Shearer]

He just started watching it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just. Silly Christopher Eccleston.

[Paul Shearer]

Matt Smith has no reason. He has nothing. Why does he all of a sudden be like, yeah, let's fucking kill everybody. Like, the synthetic blood is working for him. And he's like, fuck it, now I want to eat people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Shearer]

Like, he has. No. He's like, yeah, we can cover up dead bodies. That's easy.

[June Day]

Because I think what the movie is going for, or one of one. One thing that's coming through is how we treat disabled people and people who are. I'm serious. And so I did. I did feel like, oh, I. I do understand that the world has not been set up or adjustments have not been made for someone like Matt Smith to live with his illness successfully in the world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We see him get bullied and beat up.

[June Day]

Bullied as a child.

[Paul Shearer]

And then he's hiring bodyguards because he's,

[June Day]

like, ripping off the mobile bodyguards. Also refers to Dr. Morbius as a cripple when he's letting him into Matt Smith's apartment. So I do think what's happening to Matt Smith is that he can no longer take being disabled in America.

[Paul Shearer]

Got it. Until he wants to eat them and drink their.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or in the world. Or in the world. Because I'm pretty sure he's first treated in Greece. And I was like, hey, I wrote. Hang on. Is anybody Greek in. Is somebody in this movie supposed to be Greek? Wait, am I. Is Jared Harris supposed to be Greek? Is this. Is the clinic Greek? Is Morbius Greek? Is Matt. Is anybody supposed to be Greek? Why is this.

[Paul Shearer]

Isn't a Greek name?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, of course. Dimitri. Morbius. Morbius. Morbius Galaxy.

[June Day]

I think it was during a time where it was like, Mediterranean air can cure anything.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I feel like Jared Leto was like, I want to go to Greece for this.

[Paul Shearer]

But just for one scene. Here's my question, though, and I'm asking very honestly, because the movie leaves a lot to the viewer to connect dots, but Matt Smith is doing well with the synthetic blood.

[June Day]

Well, listen, even though they're surviving on the synthetic blood, there's nothing like the red stuff. Also, you know, we know that there's nothing like that red stuff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He wants to eat dinner at a red sauce place, if you know what I mean. Here's the thing. And we. And we understand why. And I think that for Jared Leto, for Morbius, he is doggedly pursuing a cure. He is chasing. He is a scientist. He is a doctor. He is chasing a cure. Matt Smith's want is to dance. He cannot dance. You know what he's not doing with synthetic blood? Dancing. The guy needs to move.

[Paul Shearer]

I mean, they really do recreate that scene From Spider Man 3 with Tobey Maguire there.

[June Day]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Dude,

[June Day]

I just. I wish we. I wish we knew more about Anna's parents and just what kind of waivers they had to sign to get her treatment and to get her a spot in this clinical trial at New Horizons.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you think Anna's parents were ever, like, by her bedside, like, oh, Anna. Okay, okay. And then we're like, okay, we're leaving now. Walk past giant plexiglass full of bats.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, like, that was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think they're ever like, what is this treatment? Should we take her to a regular hospital?

[June Day]

By the way, even if. Even if they had never seen the bats, the lighting in that facility.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Shearer]

Nah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Not only the lighting in the facility, the lighting in the facility is on the same timer system as episode one of Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities. The Tim Blake Nelson episode where that lighting, that timer based lighting is in a storage facility. This is a high tech hospital. The nursey is killed and is dead on the floor all night into the next day.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, to me, I thought, to me, I thought it was one of those lights. Like, you know, if you stay still in the bathroom too long, the light will go off and you'll be like. Wave your hand like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But those are the worst. I hate it when you get to a certain age and you realize, oh no, I now shit longer than the movement timer. This is not good. I'm old. But how is there still some left?

[Paul Shearer]

I thought that it was on movement.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just when I thought I was out, it pulls me back in.

[June Day]

Okay,

[Paul Shearer]

but I thought it was on movement lights. But it wasn't because she runs to the end of the hall and then there's a lone light switch that turns on all the lights. It's like. Wait, you.

[June Day]

Those movement lights. I actually, I thought that. I enjoyed that sequence. I thought it was very scary.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a great device and it is used so much better in the Guillermo del Toro thing.

[Paul Shearer]

But I will say this once again. The patient Anna literally is attached to the laboratory. Like, it does feel like. What other care is she getting there? Seems like people are going home.

[June Day]

That's why I want to know what the situation is. Because if you're part of a clinical trial, I do think she needs to be admitted to a hospital. And I guess the. I mean, to me a lab is a lab and a hospital is a hospital. And they're. Yeah, I know, I know.

[Paul Shearer]

He puts her into a. The last we see, he's like, put her into a coma.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have a. I have a question. I have a question.

[June Day]

Never wakes her up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is some things. And the movie. Some of this might just be the movie. Doesn't answer these questions, but. And some of it might be because I watched it on a bunch of various speeds. Is Jared. So Jared Harris is running the Greek clinic where boy Morbius meets boy Matt Smith. Okay.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He then calls him Milo for the rest of the movie. Isn't his name Lucien?

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So his name is Lucian. It's just this thing where. Where Morbius calls everybody Milo and he's like, you don't have an identity except for the one I give you, your new Milo.

[Paul Shearer]

But he also then says, I don't even remember the first Milo. So it's like it's not even in, like, oh, I love that Milo. And he was taking away. I don't even remember But I. I

[June Day]

assumed that you two would know the answers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think he's just saying. I think he's just saying you're just another Milo that'll die soon. Who cares? This movie's about me, Morbius, the living vampire. And, oh, wait, now, because I can. Like, now because I fixed your dialysis machine or whatever the machine was with a ballpoint pen. Who is he?

[June Day]

Forge?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's for the comic book nerds. But by the way, can make anything. He's a machinist. He could build anything out of anything. Is Morbius the same, by the way, mutant power.

[Paul Shearer]

When Morbius fixes that with a pen spring, Jared Harris is like, you're smart. I'm gonna send you to science school.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He said, well, here's my question. There is a school in New York for gifted youngsters, which sounds a lot like Xavier Academy to me. And I was like, are these motherfuckers trying to introduce the X Men in Morbius? Well, I will straight up kill myself if this is. If this is how this happens again.

[June Day]

I didn't take any of this baggage into my viewing, of course. Enjoyed it.

[Paul Shearer]

But I do feel like at one point, look, he's like. He calls everybody Milo. But then when he saves Lucien's life, you would think he goes, I'm not gonna call you Milo anymore. I'm call you Lucien. And then he doesn't. And then so much so that later in the movie, he's like, I gotta save Milo. It's like you don't even know his name.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Everybody calls him Milo.

[Paul Shearer]

I know.

[June Day]

Even he calls himself Milo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And other people call him Bix from. Andor calls him Milo. Everybody calls him everybody his. I swear to God. I think Matt Smith's character legally changes his name to Milo just because Jared Leto is like, that's who you are. That's it. I run the cult. You're Milo.

[Paul Shearer]

By the way, speaking of weird things in this movie, and we'll get to a lot of them, there was nothing more unsexy than being off the coast of Long Island. Now, I am a Long island native.

[June Day]

As am I.

[Paul Shearer]

But when they. Not internationally, when they say international waters, I'm thinking something very exotic was not expected. 13 miles off the coast of Montauk. Like this.

[June Day]

I'm like, you could for sure see a strip mall from there.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it was like, international waters. I was like, is Don DeMillo here? What's going on?

[Paul Shearer]

Morbius is. Loves his outlet mall shopping. He's like, well, I'll hit the outlets. And then we'll get on a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then we're going to go to Montauk, and then we're going to hang out with Billy Joel.

[June Day]

You know who I felt really badly for? Well, Anna, of course, but also let's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We got to put her in a coma.

[June Day]

I felt really bad for that crew on that ship, on that cargo ship, the mercenaries.

[Paul Shearer]

Multiple times people tell you, don't worry about them. I know. Like, they're like, I don't care about those guys.

[June Day]

Are we sure they all deserve deserved to die?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I. I mean, the movie is trying to tell us they are, but here's my question is why did he even need mercenaries? Just charter a boat and build a lab in it. Why do you need gun toting Mercy? I got just so. I think it's just so they can be visually bad guys. So you're okay with him killing them?

[Paul Shearer]

Well, here's my other question for you. Why do they need to be in international waters? Like, what? Why do they need to be on the water?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because he tells Milo, it's pretty. It's. It's full blown illegal what I'm going to do. So I can only do it in international waters.

[June Day]

Yeah, but the FDA Fauci's not approving this type of experiment.

[Paul Shearer]

Is this the bat that. That brought Covid to the States? Morbius?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. He's like, the first scene takes place at a wet market.

[Paul Shearer]

Now, I do love when Morbius is recording his own journal. He goes, I have echolocation. That's bat radar for those uninitiated. You fucking dope.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's your own journal.

[June Day]

Okay, that made me think is somebody. Because to your point, Jason, there doesn't seem to be any, like, admin infrastructure at New Horizons. So it was like, where's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where's. Cut from House being like, you can't do this.

[Paul Shearer]

You're out of control.

[June Day]

Right. But I was like, I know Martine's not transcribing those notes from the tape. So is Jared Leto transcribing his own notes?

[Paul Shearer]

I feel like he's doing voice to text.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who? Like, is. Is Anna. Like, is. Is she. Is this treatment covered by like her ppo? Like.

[June Day]

Well, I thought you were going to say, is it like a work study?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I'm like, I'm like, what. What is. Is where Jared? I. What I think is true is I believed that Jared Leto was operating out of a hospital. And I think he is not. I think he's operating out of like,

[June Day]

oh, Jason, that is not a hospital. No, that's a Lab in, like, a warehouse that's been converted.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right. Okay.

[Paul Shearer]

I have issues with labs because at one point, a guy is forging hundred dollar bills. Like, that's my new science lab.

[June Day]

How?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He walks in. He walks into a lab. He walked. He just overhears with his echolocation two guys trying to pass off counterfeit 1/ hundreds. And they're like, all right, we got to get back to the lab. He follows them to their lab where they're manufacturing money. And he. He tweaks two, three things and is like, yep, now I can do my blood experiments on this.

[Paul Shearer]

It's a printing press. He has a print.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He has a machine.

[Paul Shearer]

And he takes out, like, the ink cartridge is like, now it's a blood machine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now. Now I. Now. Now I have my blood. It is absolutely insane that he's. And it's all, it's all. It's not even a time jump I could understand. He gets rid of the guys who are counterfeiting. He says, okay, this is raw materials. I can use. Time jump. Now he's got it set up. No. Immediately he's like, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw. Perfect. And the things, like, spinning around. They were making money. They. It's like, it might as well have been. This movie is nonsense.

[Paul Shearer]

I. I have such an issue with the lack of refrigeration for all this blood because unless he has, like, a yeti backpack, the. The backpack that he throws the blood in does not look good. We've seen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We've seen the kind of lab he needs to make it work. Yeah. This is not bad.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah, it seems like a. I mean, where is the blood? I mean, also the amount of underground layers, like, they're. They're going deep. I mean, this is a weird question.

[June Day]

I did love that the criminals referred to their counterfeit space as a lab.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[June Day]

I was like, wow. They. They bring a certain level of professionalism

[Jason Mantzoukas]

to their work as they're trying to pass off fake 1- hundreds at the diner. Also Morbius all over the news, all over the Daily Bugle. J. Jonah Jameson is blowing him up.

[Paul Shearer]

By the way, shot scenes for this movie. J. Jonah Jameson.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, really?

[Paul Shearer]

Yes. And then they cut them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking. Maybe because they didn't want to reveal.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, because there are issues with dmc. There's a lot of mistakes. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But he's everywhere. He's on the COVID of the paper, blah, blah. But he has. He's also not hiding out at all. He's. He's hoodless looking exactly like his incredibly identifiable self with Bix from andor in a diner being like, well, I'm a

[Paul Shearer]

vampire now, but not that kind of vampire.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Doo doo doo doo doo.

[Paul Shearer]

My issue was how did he know that he couldn't have animal blood? He's like, I have a search for human blood. You didn't even try animal blood.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, he's also in his old place in his old lab. There appears to be. There's the blue synthetic blood, then there's row after row of what looks like red human blood. Couldn't he have drank that for weeks?

[June Day]

Well, no, I think only for hours.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, it's going down six hours, four hours and 22 minutes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But isn't that only for the synthetic?

[June Day]

Yeah, like yeah, he doesn't take any

[Jason Mantzoukas]

of the red blood.

[Paul Shearer]

What does he grab in the blue blood?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like crazy.

[Paul Shearer]

He doesn't seem to really suck it out. Like he seems to just like take a slug of the blood. Like I want to see him like a blood slug. Like I really want, I want like when he's in the jail cell, oh,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'd like to take a blood slug from you.

[Paul Shearer]

Because he's like, he's like. I just feel like he's just like, hey, you're leaving a lot of blood in there. If I'm needing human blood, I'm going to suck that blood bag dry. I, I'm just gonna. Cuz it's like when will I get the next batch?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well the other thing is because he doesn't seem to have like obviously there are vampires empiric urges that he has. Like when, when, when she cuts her hand, when she cuts her. When the cat, is it. The cat scratches her or whatever. Yeah, she, she gets a cut and he can like he, he, it activates him. Right. But, but he also doesn't attack, he only attacks people. He's only out of control, rather in on the boat. So why isn't he just getting people to donate blood to him to drink? That seems like he must have. He's a Nobel prize winning doctor. He has access to blood.

[Paul Shearer]

And by the way, why are people so mad that he's like at one point when he's on the COVID like I knew that guy was a fucking freak. Like really, the Nobel prize scientist who invented synthetic blood you have an issue with Vendor?

[June Day]

I mean I do think it's a hard sell because I think it's wonderful to donate blood. I try to donate blood but it's like I don't know that I want to donate blood for someone to Drink?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I would. Here's what I would happily drink. Blood. I would rather. Sorry, that's. Freud would slip. I'm a vampire, guys. I've been cast in Morbius too. Still morbin. No, I would happily give my blood for someone to drink so that they wouldn't prey on human beings.

[June Day]

Can I have it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, I would. June. Pint after pint. Absolutely my favorite part. So the part where he does wild out the first time he's transformed into a vampire and he's on the ceiling in the boat in his cage. And then they open it and he comes down and he kills all the mercenaries, right? Then he wakes up out of it like. And he's like, what happened here? Amnesia. So he goes and he checks all the security footage, right? Of every. He's watching the security cam footage of everything we just saw. And vomits. Even Morbius doesn't like the movie. Morbius. Even Morbius is watching the scenes we watched and is like, this is not good.

[June Day]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I love.

[Paul Shearer]

And I love Al Madrigal. Like, very funny in it. And he's great, but I know it's a movie convention, but I need to call out that they never have talked before they get to the crime scene. They are stone cold silent. And then they get there, and it's like, information dump. It seems like Tyrese's like, don't tell me anything till I'm standing exactly in the center of this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They also don't have a. I mean, I'm assuming they are long term partners. They have no dynamic between them.

[Paul Shearer]

Nope. And they seem to also work San Francisco for Venom. Connecting the weirdo Sony, Marvel Universe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you think they worked San Francisco, or they just think this might be connected to the thing that happened in San Francisco, AKA Venom?

[Paul Shearer]

Oh, I thought, like, they were setting Tyrese up to be like a special investigator, which was confusing. I like that. Because when he has that earpiece, is he just getting the APB wire and is like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think it's like a. I think that's just for the rest of the police, I think.

[Paul Shearer]

But, I mean, is he getting every call? Because that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ask a nerd here. Is there a nerd who can. A singular person who can tell us, is Tyrese playing a character from comics that we should know? Yes.

[June Day]

Who?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's playing a vampire hunter that ends up teaming up with him to kill Dracula.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, so he is playing a vampire hunter, not Blade, who helps Morbius, by

[Jason Mantzoukas]

the way, should give it up for this. This heroic Chicago native, guys. And well done, everybody, that you allowed him to speak without everybody being like, I know, I know.

[June Day]

Then I want to ask, why does Morbius refer to himself as Venom? Is he not?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is he.

[Paul Shearer]

That's a joke.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think that's a misrepresent joke.

[Paul Shearer]

It's a joke because, by the way,

[June Day]

I don't understand comedy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All Right.

[Paul Shearer]

When you watch the trailer. Okay, so when you watch the trailer, one of the moments in the trailer is like, who are you? And he's like, I'm Venom. And then he goes, that's in the trailer? Yes. And he goes, just joking. I'm Dr. Morbius. That's in the trailer. They just left it here in the movie as I'm Venom. And I think. Does he maybe say, I'm joking, too?

[June Day]

I didn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I didn't hear that.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, definitely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have some research as a way to be like, I'm. I don't, like, throw people off the scent or, you know, like. You know, like to be like, I'm not even gonna identify myself. So I'm just gonna say I'm this other character that has been causing trouble in the same world.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, so this is the line. This is the line as it was written. He goes, I'm Venom. And he goes, just kidding. It's Dr. Morbius at your service. And actually, I misquoted it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He says, at your service.

[Paul Shearer]

I misquoted it. It says, I'm just kidding. It's Dr. Michael Morbius, at your service.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sorry. I have it here. And it's actually at your cervix. And it's like. It's like a joke. He's, like, making a joke. Dr. Michael Morbius your cervix.

[Paul Shearer]

I will say, I understand that this movie falls very weirdly in the mcu. In the mcu. I don't know where this falls because there are elements of, you know, Spider Man. There's, like, we're referencing X Men. There's a lot of stuff going on. But I will say, the one thing that doesn't seem incredibly established in this universe as is are superheroes, right? Like, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of superheroes, but the lack of reaction to vampires seems suspect. Like, take a look at this. This is clip two. This is a news anchor just talking about a vampire attack.

[June Day]

Breaking news on the Lower east side, where three people have been killed. Authorities have confirmed the discovery of three new bodies outside a bar popular with Wall street journalists, raiders. And like the victims before them, they were completely drained of their blood, earning the killer the moniker vampire murderer. The prime Suspect, renowned scientist Dr. Michael Morbius, remains at large.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So they're not saying it is a. They're saying the moniker vamp. The vampire killer. So they're saying because the bodies are drained of blood, the. The serial killer must be draining their blood. Not that there is an Actual vampire.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, then they go, it's a copycat vampire murderer, but still draining of blood. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put some more gravitas on that.

[June Day]

I would think so. Also, because the nurse who's, I think already been killed at this point, only has two fang marks.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[June Day]

There are no other wounds, so that's concerning. Oh, that's gonna raise some eyebrows by.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The movie wants to have it both ways. The movie wants for people to be like, yeah, we live in a world where crazy shit happens. I. E. There's a Spider man. There's a Thanos, There's. We live in, like, the. We're. We are in the mcu, technically, sort of. Are we, nerd?

[Paul Shearer]

Yes. Because I can. I can answer this nerd a little bit, and you can back me up. The illusion at the end when Michael Keaton appears is that he was also displaced from his universe when Dr. Strange pulled all the spider men together.

[June Day]

So that wasn't Batman.

[Paul Shearer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But.

[Paul Shearer]

No reason why you should understand this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You would. You have every right to think that.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because Michael Keaton has played both Batman, but also the Spider man version villain. The Vulture.

[June Day]

And Birdman.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Birdman.

[Paul Shearer]

And he is not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Beetlejuice. He is not in this movie. He's Beetlejuice.

[Paul Shearer]

He's not reprising his role.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What if.

[Paul Shearer]

As Birdman in this movie, what if

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Morbius was like, I'm into trouble. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.

[Paul Shearer]

Hey. Hey, there, Morbius.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not gonna help take a shit.

[Paul Shearer]

Gotta drink that blood.

[June Day]

So I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's my audition for the remake, by the way.

[Paul Shearer]

By the way, there's a great line for Beetlejuice. Your cervix.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. See, I am now writing a Beetlejuice reboot.

[June Day]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But, yes, he's. That character is the Spider Man Vulture villain who appears at the end of the movie. That is.

[Paul Shearer]

And so. So he is tied loosely because the same little thing happens in the skyline of New York that happens when Dr. Strange is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it's also why Venom. At the end of Venom, there is a similar multiversal displacement of people.

[Paul Shearer]

And again, I will say it, like I said at the beginning, this is not a Marvel movie. It says in association with Marvel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They really.

[Paul Shearer]

It's like, Feige is like, I really don't want you to take some. But legally, I can't say no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Yay.

[Paul Shearer]

It's like to see a Sinister Six film under this. Oh, God, it would be so upsetting. Why would we destroy it? Let me ask you a question. Cat people. Do you shake a litter box and cat come.

[June Day]

Right as though like the food's in there?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[June Day]

Here, kitty, kitty.

[Paul Shearer]

I don't like. It's like, why would the cat come running to its toilet?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, when you were, when you were potty training your children, didn't you do the handle to create a Pavlovian response that is like, oh, I guess it's time to. So let's do this now.

[June Day]

Paul and Jason, I have an announcement. Yes, I have to go morb right now. It's 8:25.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[June Day]

I have a 9:56 flight out of Chicago. So I am. I didn't want to. We didn't want to reveal too early. I'm leaving the show a bit early because. I know and I'm so upset about it. I can't believe it. It's horrifying. But let me tell you this. I have to get a child ready in a pig Minecraft costume tomorrow. And as hard. Thank you. As hard as it is to leave here to go do that, I truly must go. And when we planned this, we didn't want to have to reschedule Chicago again. And we knew it was the night before Halloween. I'm so sorry to leave. I love you all. I got a morb.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And this is.

[June Day]

I got a morb.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for June.

[June Day]

I'm so sorry. I got a morb. I'm so sorry, judge.

[Paul Shearer]

So, yes. So the show is going to continue. We have a lot more to get through. I will say this before maybe I was a little hard on Matt Smith. I did like the bromance that they had. Like when they were walking around, I was like, oh, now you're quoting the the Notebook to me. Like, you know, I felt like they. I don't like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I like them as friends. I like them as friends. And if anything, I wanted more. I guess I wanted to understand more like why they were kind of brothers, you know, it really didn't make sense to me that Matt Smith was so connected to him still because kid Jared Leto leaves to go and do his whatever, he becomes a, you know, a Nobel winning, blah, blah. And Matt Smith just seems to still be like around.

[Paul Shearer]

Can I ask another question about this? Is that house that they're living in, that estate in Greece? In Greece, yeah. Is that all full of kids with the exact same disease? Is it like a leper colony for that disease? And if so, why is he so committed to this one kid when you would imagine there's floors and floors of them unclear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And not only that. But if we're meant to believe the kid. Morbius lines. Multiple kids are just dying. Like, just expiring. So. So he's taken on. There's an element of this movie which could have been like, I've watched so many people die that I'm not gonna attach myself to you, Lucien. I'm gonna call you Milo. You are a disposable person. But then he connects with him. He takes care of him. He becomes an older brother to him or whatever. But, no, that's not what happens. Then the very next moment, Jared Harris is like, we're sending you out of here. You're too smart. And he's like, see you later.

[Paul Shearer]

And by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then the kid gets his ass kicked. But then later, they're like, you're my brother.

[Paul Shearer]

Here's what I. This is why I call bullshit on it. Because 25 years ago, there was no Internet. How was he keeping in touch with him? I just feel like I have a lot of friends I would like to

[Jason Mantzoukas]

see from origami notes the only way

[Paul Shearer]

that they find him. We found one of these on the boat. Shit. Like, it was like, all right, I guess. Oh, my gosh. The fact that he flies like a squirrel jumper. Is that what it's called? Like, people that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, a flying squirrel suit?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah, like, that's what he looks like. It looks like he's in a flying squirrel suit. It doesn't look cool. Like. And I don't understand why he would need to fly when he can just jump with the same amount of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, why not just let him fly? Why not just let him just. Or turn into a. Or maybe his powers don't. Maybe. Nerd. Does he not turn into a bat? No, thank you.

[Paul Shearer]

Does he have control of bats? Oh, why doesn't Matt. Okay, Matt Smith is attacked by bats. And he's like, bats now. Like me, because I'm the bat's brother. Not Batman, but I'm the bat brother. But then the bats hate Matt Smith.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why isn't Matt Smith having the exact same experience as Morbius? Yeah. With the bats, with flying, with the rest. Like Morbius, I think vampires. What?

[Paul Shearer]

I think Matt Smith can fly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, he can.

[Paul Shearer]

When they're in that subway fight scene, which really.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, there are so many people. That's the thing. There's so many people in the movie, in the subway tunnel, in the subway station, in this. On the city streets that are watching this fight happen. And everybody's like, oh, no, look out. It's. It's so casual. They're like walking through the subway tunnel and they're like flying up and around. It's like. And I'm. And it's like testament to New Yorkers who are just like, got to go to work.

[Paul Shearer]

Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, what? Two living vampires fighting around me. Gotta go to work. Doesn't matter.

[Paul Shearer]

I mean, I would say that the thing that bums me out the most about this movie is that Matt Smith just wears a nice suit all the time. And oh yeah, he looks, he looks like he doesn't take on a real different personality. He just is like, well, I'll wear a button down shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I ask the nerd a question? Okay. And you know what, nerd? What's your name? Michael.

[Paul Shearer]

Michael Van Buren.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are you Michael Morbius? You have to answer truthfully.

[Paul Shearer]

His.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. My question for you, Michael, is, is Matt Smith playing a character from the Marvel Universe?

[Paul Shearer]

A mashup? Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. So he's not like, it's not a direct one to one rem. He's not a villain in the, in the Marvel universe. Thank you. That's all I wanted to know.

[Paul Shearer]

That Matt Smith said this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's morbid time.

[Paul Shearer]

He goes, I was somewhat confused with my character's history as he wasn't aware how Milo tied into the Hunger's greatest legacy and origins from the comics. Since it wasn't clarified in the script, many reports came from the set that he was like, his character was named Locius Crown. But then they changed it to Milo because they had to reshoot the movie. They also thought that that character of Loshi's was a character in the film or in the comics. They decided to change at the last minute anyway. They didn't keep the character's name.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They changed it from Lucian to Milo because it was based on a character.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, his name was, I guess, Loxius L O X I A S Crown. Then they changed to Lucien Crown and then Milo. So three name changes for one script,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

and none of it helps clarify who the character is at all.

[Paul Shearer]

And it seems to me, according to Matt Smith, no one told him like, hey, in the comics, you are this character.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And what was, what was. I think one of the movie's most egregious problems was other than just kind of being mad at the people who. At a world that kind of bullied him or tormented him or didn't make his life easy. He's just gonna chomp everybody in realistic sense as a villain, as a villain in a superhero story, because that's. Even though this is a vampire story. This is ultimately a superhero story. There is no clear villain's motive. He doesn't want to do anything but dance and flirt with girls and kill.

[Paul Shearer]

He wants to kill people, but he

[Jason Mantzoukas]

only seems to kill people when it's, like, presented. When he's. When he's slighted or what? Or when somebody.

[Paul Shearer]

By the way, he's an attractive man at a bar and he starts hitting on some other guy's girlfriend, he's like, hey, that's my girlfriend. He's like, I'll kill you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then does.

[Paul Shearer]

And then does like, that guy. He might be a dick, but it was his girlfriend. He. All he said was, like, her drinks are spoken for him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, when he kills. When he kills the nurse in. Is it New Horizons? Is it Horizons?

[Paul Shearer]

Horizons, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When he kills the nurse at Horizons, like, what a dick move to be like, hey, this. This woman that you, my brother, Michael Morbius, Nobel Prize winner Doctor. Dr. Michael Morbius at your cervix. That. This. That you. This person that you work with intimately. Her life matters nothing to me. I'm going to chomp her and drain her of all the blood. He is a dick, but I don't know why. And my problem was, I don't know what his. He has no plan. He has no. He has no want.

[Paul Shearer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Other than to dance.

[Paul Shearer]

He seems like he could live a fine life, but now that he's a vampire, he's like, fuck it. I'll be evil. And we see the ultimate evil when he rips down the warning tape when he leaves the lab. Ooh, the villain warning tape doesn't mean anything to me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I loved. I loved when he. When he. When he. When he pretends to be the lawyer to visit Jared Leto in prison. Jared Leto already is in prison. Boom. He's, like, in there, and he's like, ah. It leaves him some blood and then leaves his cane behind. And then he's, like, walking out of the prison. Like,

[Paul Shearer]

it's like a Kaiser Soze thing, but for no one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Shearer]

Like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because it's for the camera. That's what I mean. For the camera, the movie.

[Paul Shearer]

Because he's like this. He's like, limp, limp that. Oh, say that. Hey, no more limb. But what. Who was the fake limp for? And why would they let him into the cell? And then why would they let him give him stuff?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How do. How do Tyrese and Al Madrigal not know that. That Matt Smith has visited him in jail? Why don't they know about him? Why they find out so I mean,

[Paul Shearer]

there's another rest him. It's like he gets in jail to get immediately out. Like he fucking Morbs in the interrogation.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why not? Yeah, why not? Yes. They don't even. They are so unimpressed by the fact that they're in the presence of a vampire. True. Like, they are like, huh, okay, we're gonna come back to this.

[Paul Shearer]

I also, and again, this movie is not sure about powers or anything because there is also a moment when Dr. Michael Morbius is trying to go to see Jarrett Harris, who's like, come, I'm wounded.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jared Harris. I think this is true, and I didn't look it up. Jared Harris dies grisly deaths in every role he has. He's never survived to the end of a movie or TV show, period.

[Paul Shearer]

Michael, come to the apartment. Why? Just tell me now what's going on? Like, there was no reason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I tried to talk to Milo. I know his name is Lucius, but you decided to call him Milo and we're all under your thrall.

[Paul Shearer]

When you were a bully, you renamed him and we all went with it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Even me, an adult. Even me, an adult. Even though I've not aged in 25 years. And you are now Jared Leto and we are essentially the same age.

[Paul Shearer]

Oh, there. There is a there. So when he goes to visit dying Jared Harris, Morbius, he's the same.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He has not changed.

[Paul Shearer]

Morbius is like this like creep sidestepping. It's like, dude, if you have echolocation, you know what's in the fucking room. You don't need to be like, oh, I don't know, someone gonna jump out at me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

His, his powers are so fickle because like, when Matt Smith has. What's bix from Andor's name?

[Paul Shearer]

Martin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Martin. When he's got Martine and he's like, he'll come for you or what? He's, he's, he's kind of trying to get to Martine to lure Morbius to him. And Morbius can hear everything up until the point where he kills Martine.

[Paul Shearer]

Yep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was like, why didn't you go rescue her? He listens to the whole thing happen. Like, maybe it won't happen. Jared Leto's face is like, I wonder what's gonna happen next.

[Paul Shearer]

But then he makes her into a vampire. Do we get a post credit scene with her? Nope.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is that what happens?

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Does she become a vampire?

[Paul Shearer]

Ba bam.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is that Michael the nerd? Is. Is, Is she playing a vampire character? Yes. Who?

[June Day]

She's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's basically Celine in the Comics. They changed the so many times. The energy vampire from X Men.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, so she's the energy vampire from the X Men.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great. Okay, great.

[Paul Shearer]

I will say this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you.

[Paul Shearer]

I liked her performance.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, give it up for. Give it up for Michael. Michael doing heroic work all. All show long. Everybody give him a pat on the back on the way out. Don't touch him though. Don't touch anybody. Don't touch each other.

[Paul Shearer]

I will say this. I liked her performance. I thought the love story was bullshit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But when he said they are just, he's a vampire, she's freaked out. They don't know what's going on. They go up to the roof. He goes, close your eyes. And then kisses her. That. I didn't think that was cool.

[Paul Shearer]

I thought when he goes, hey, I wasn't going to morb out on you. And she's like, I thought it was romantic. Did you? This man turned into a fucking creature. And we are. You're like, oh, I thought they were

[Jason Mantzoukas]

going to stone cold fridge her in a way that I was like, wait, are they killing her now? Just to motivate him to get back at Matt Smith. And I didn't like that. But then they instead just turn her into a vampire, I guess.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, they needed something to activate Matt smith and. And Dr. Morbius to fall through the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The Earth. Yeah. They fight into the center of the Earth.

[Paul Shearer]

Are they falling down the middle of a building incon. I'm so confused. It was like I was watching the end of Transformers 1.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, and is it just so that they can. Is it just so that they can get to a level where there are bats? Also. Also Morbius seems to have. Obviously has a relationship with bats. Right, we get that. Vampire bats. Where does he go at the beginning? Where is he in the caverns? Beginning. Okay, hold on a second, Michael. Where does he go in the beginning?

[Paul Shearer]

Costa Rica.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Costa Rica. He's in Costa Rica studying vampire bats. Do we think there are vampire bats in New York City? No, these are just some basic.

[Paul Shearer]

These are. These are. This is like Ant man getting the ants to play like the drums like any ants. Yep. Any ants can do that. Ant man has those powers. He could get everybody doing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So he can control any bat anyway.

[Paul Shearer]

No, no, no. The bats are his friends. He's like, guys, help, guys, I'm being captured. And then the bats are like, oh, shit, our brother. And they all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I guess, I guess, I guess you're right. I guess you're right. But then, boy, would I like it if he could turn into a bat or something.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, he's kind of flying. I mean, his bones are hollow. We know that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why didn't he. Why?

[Paul Shearer]

Why?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The idea that you thought. And he gets shot up in the sky.

[Paul Shearer]

Hollow bones.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He gets hollow bones is incredible. So do you think Superman's bones are hollow?

[Paul Shearer]

No, he's not a bat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So anybody. So it's not just anybody who can fly. No, no, no.

[Paul Shearer]

Only that he's a baddie. Has hollow bones.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got it. Got it.

[Paul Shearer]

Or bird. But he's not a birdman. And Birdman in the movie is not an actress.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hawkman. D.C. justice League member. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, do they have hollow bones?

[Paul Shearer]

No, because their planet, they don't have hollow bones.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, well.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, so this is the one thing that Martine said about her character which I thought was odd. She said she based it on aoc, which I love aoc. Great. But it's also. We, like, why.

[June Day]

How.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where is that evidence?

[Paul Shearer]

I don't see that at all. Like, I don't see. She's just a scientist. Like, she's not. I don't see.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's not a politician. She's not advocating. I have follow up questions.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah, I do, too. It seems like an odd choice to be like, oh, yeah, yeah. No, AOC is how I viewed Martine. What part? I don't know. I want to get deeper into what she was talking about. I want to get into it with the audience because I know that you all have questions. Okay. Your name and your question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My name's Adrian. And my question is if this movie's present day, that puts them in the

[Paul Shearer]

Children's Hospital 25 years ago in Greece. Why do they shoot it like it's post war England? Yeah. That car that pulled was odd and old. Right. It didn't. It seemed like a model T. Here

[Jason Mantzoukas]

we get it, Adrian. Greece doesn't have modern cars. Oh, well, I'm sorry that Greece.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, all their cars run on feta cheese. Right. Saganak. I said all their cars run on Saganaki. Right. You just like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, yes. You know, it's a new fuel in Greece. It's just. It's cooked cheese.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay. Yes. You have your notebook out. You have a question? Yes. Okay, go for it.

[June Day]

My name is Laura. Why would you lose your license for

[Jason Mantzoukas]

combining human DNA with bat DNA. And once you have combined human DNA

[June Day]

and bat DNA, why would you give

[Jason Mantzoukas]

it to a mouse which is neither a human or a bat?

[Paul Shearer]

Now that's a question. Here, two pieces of candy for that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The movie does a lot of bullshit like that. Where it's like, we know that you, the audience understand that medical testing are done on mice. So we're just going to do that. Even though it doesn't make any sense to the movie we're doing or what's happening. So fuck you. The movie is. Here's the reality. The movie. If you watch it again, please don't. The movie is constantly saying to you, the audience, you're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking idiot. I'm not even going to help you understand. I'm just going to show you a bunch of garbage and you're gonna have to be like, I guess I like it. Jared Leto, obviously we had opinions about

[Paul Shearer]

this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[June Day]

Oh, I really want to bite somebody. I kind of want to fight with somebody. Why doesn't Matt Smith like me? I need a second opinion.

[Paul Shearer]

Amazing. Great job. Give it up. Here's what I got. I got some second opinions from Amazon. Here we go. There are 39,000 reviews.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think that's right.

[Paul Shearer]

Does seem odd. Molly Reynolds, one of our producers, put this together. 39,000. But it does seem like because of the Internet memeification of it, maybe it's true.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, is that it?

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That. Just because it became such a. I

[Paul Shearer]

think it might have been. Yeah. 55% are five star reviews. Here we go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kate Pugh writes.

[Paul Shearer]

Remember when there was a good old horror movie on every Saturday night? No. And you and your friends would curl up in the family or living room with bowls of popcorn and potato chips just waiting to be scared. Guess what? They're back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're back. Yep.

[Paul Shearer]

This is one of a new generation of horror movies. Not the classic Frankenstein, Dracula, the Wolfman, plus the myriad of sequels and sci fi, outer space, Japanese monsters. Nor is it the slasher gore everywhere. Friday the 13th, Elm street, losing your lunch type that was prevalent a few years ago. This is a good straightforward horror movie. Worth the cost or you'll remember it. But you won't have any trouble going upstairs afterwards. Five stars. The title of the review. Fast shipping and quick handling that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what's disappointing is. And that. And. And I hadn't even really thought about this. But wouldn't this movie would have been so much better if it was a horror movie or if it was.

[Paul Shearer]

I think it was trying to be

[Jason Mantzoukas]

into being a horror movie. I'm. I know it was horror in some senses. But like. Like the Marvel. What Was it the Werewolf by Night, Marvel Presents or whatever that was. Werewolf by Night, which is on Disney plus right now, is a Marvel horror special. And that was, I thought, fantastic and tonally got what this. This movie kind of missed 100%.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah. I mean, I'll. I'll end it on this one from Baby Doo Doo. Who.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, really? You're gonna end it with Baby Doo Doo?

[Paul Shearer]

Baby Doo Doo says, is it this baby's Doo Doo? Maybe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This baby's so cute.

[Paul Shearer]

So cute.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you said it's Covid free, so I want to hold it.

[Paul Shearer]

Don't fall into that trap.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I fell into this trap before, and I got bit.

[Paul Shearer]

Baby Doo Doo writes, this is a movie I watched 10 times before my rental ended of 48 hours. Worth the time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am a serial killer.

[Paul Shearer]

Worth the time and money. I have watched almost every vampire movie and vampire series. A big fun of the Dracula character. However, Morbius is giving the best of both worlds. The ending gives the idea that there's a positive of Morbius becoming part of the Avengers. It creates the biggest expectation of Morbius. I commend the writer for a meaningful storyline as well as the producers and actors that brought it to life. Double thumbs up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible.

[Paul Shearer]

But here's the thumbs up is double. Not thumb up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Shearer]

You never say thumb up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's great? That makes no.

[Paul Shearer]

If you're watching through the roof.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you're gonna watch it that much, buy the movie. You loved it by the movie. Here's what's crazy. Morbius the living vampire exists in the same cinematic universe. And Michael the Nerd, correct me if I'm wrong, as Man Bat or is Man Bat dc? Okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay, disregard.

[Paul Shearer]

Oh, right. I was actually thinking this whole time that Batman was in the Morbius ray really rattled me. I was thinking that Batman was in this universe, but he's not. Because I just think of this as, like, a shitty DC movie. But it's a Marvel movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, and that's the thing, is this feels like it's more of a DC movie than it is a Marvel movie. Yes, and as does Venom, Frankly. And Venom 2.

[Paul Shearer]

All right, so this is written by our friend. So when we announced that we were doing Morbius here in Chicago, I got an email. And the email said I'm a huge fan of the podcast, a longtime listener, and I was a crew member on Morbius. My role kept me very close to the action. I can't tell you my name, but you can call me Bat on the wall.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm gonna have a Twix.

[Paul Shearer]

Is that ok? Yeah, go for it. And here are the six points that Bat on the Wall writes. First up, Jared was method acting. This included acting very sickly and disabled during the first half of filming. For example, he used crutches to go to the bathroom, hobbling down the corridor at a snail's pace. Each toilet break would last 30 minutes, but it was a two minute walk away. He also wouldn't come to set for five hours once because he hadn't found Dr. Morbius inside of him yet.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm so nervous that I'm gonna be on a job at some point and somebody's gonna write an email to something like this and be like, Jason Mantzoukas spent so long having diarrhea in his trailer and didn't come out because he was nervous because he didn't have wipes for his butt.

[Paul Shearer]

Bat on the Wall continues and says that he also wore an earwig while filming. And his assistant.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

An earwig is an earpiece where they feed you your line.

[Paul Shearer]

Like the same thing that Tyrese had in his ear where he gets the police.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except that. Except that it's meant in Tyrese's. Tyrese isn't using it as an actor. His character is using it for. To hear the police say, Exactly. But this is some. This is something so that some people need to have their lines fed to them.

[Paul Shearer]

And some people who are big method actors, like even Marlon Brando, liked having the earwig because it kept them that much more in the moment. If I don't know what I'm gonna say, how can I be acting?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Brando is. If you haven't seen it before, when you go home tonight, Google Marlon Brando cue cards or something like that. There's a great photo of Marlon Brando on the set of the Godfather doing a scene. And Robert Duvall, the incomparable, the incredible Robert Duvall has a cue card hungry around his body with Brando's lines on it. It's like this big Jason.

[Paul Shearer]

I have also worn a cue card for an actor I was working with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You wore a cue card multiple times, multiple reveal times.

[Paul Shearer]

Okay, point number two. Jared Leto constantly ad libbed what he thought was hilarious dialogue, but was actually deeply unfunny and vaguely disturbing. Most takes would last 15 minutes, all just him solidly ad libbing. It became such an issue that there were meetings with the studio to see if they could get anything from the scenes. Were they salvageable? The best slash, worst day for this was a scene with Morbius and Martine flirting in the lab. There was a cat in there. And Jared kept on repeating weird lines like that cat just shit in my mouth.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You got a yes. And that. You gotta. You gotta. Yes. And that.

[Paul Shearer]

I'm gonna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. And I bet it tasted great.

[Paul Shearer]

I'm gonna roll that cat up like a little butt burrito.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's not a thing.

[Paul Shearer]

Nope.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like a butt burrito is not a real thing.

[Paul Shearer]

And finally, gravity always wins in the end. I guess that accounts for the pubic hair in my cake.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, is that a Clarence Thomas line? That's going back. That's for the oldies in the room. That's for Gen X right there.

[Paul Shearer]

Matt Smith. Cool person, great actor. Hope he got paid. Ok, And then finally this. We shot a fight sequence for one and a half months. It was a huge fight between Morbius and Milo in Central park, which was an English wood where they painted the bottom half of the trees bright red. And then we shot the rest in an English park that looked nothing like Central Park. I looked up the plot of the release movie because I have not seen it. And the bats that help him defeat Milo did not exist in the original version. Morbius jabs the serum into Milo's heart when they are grappling midair. They fall to the ground in Central park in an embrace. Then they also change the Martine plot. It originally ended with Morbius and Martine flying off into the sky together while the cops watch and Bat on the Wall includes the script right here. So the this is how the movie ends. Morbius says ready? He holds out his hand. Martin takes it. Martine says let's get out of here. Then a big gust of wind blows through. Morbius says wait for it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now.

[Paul Shearer]

They leap into the air together, catching an updraft. The cops are taken back by surprise. They train their weapons into the sky on Morbius and Martine and Morbius says easy, guys. Settle down. Credits. And Bat on the Wall wants us to know that all the after credit scenes were not shot in principal photography. So that was. Yeah, this movie got a 15% on the tomato meter, but a 71% on the audience score. The budget was 83 million. The opening weekend was 39. The domestic gross was 73. The top movies of 2022 are Top Gun, Maverick, Doctor Strange, in the Multiverse of Madness and Jurassic World Dominion. This movie did come in 23 on the top 200 movies of 2022. And it was beat by Moonfall. Moonfall made more money than the moon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Fuck the moon. Fuck the moon.

[Paul Shearer]

So that is that the only other thing I want to add here that I think is interesting is that Jared Leto also said that Pokemon was a big influence, of course, in the portrayal of Morbius's powers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got to get them all.

[June Day]

And.

[Paul Shearer]

And Jared Leto also said this is. This first movie is the first date, and, you know, we're just getting to know each other. This is kind of our first step forward.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

More of a first impression.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah. I think if you look at Wolverine, if you look at Batman, you see a lot of these films evolve over time. You know, there's a relationship that develops there, and who knows? We'll see what happens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who knows? I genuinely hope nothing happens. Although I would love. I would happily take Matt Smith and Martine forward. Yeah, those are characters I'm interested in.

[Paul Shearer]

Well, Matt Smith is dead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is he. Is anybody dead in this?

[Paul Shearer]

I mean, I think you could say that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anything. I don't know.

[Paul Shearer]

And yeah, we could really retcon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The woman who plays Martine, I think, is incredible. I've been referring to her as Bix from Andor because she's fantastic in an incredible show. She was also in Father of the Bride and the remake of Father of the Bride, which is also incredible. And she's fantastic. And I've been calling her Bix from Andor the whole night. And I wanted to just say her name is Adria Arjuna, so I wanted to shout that out. And she's fantastic.

[Paul Shearer]

Would you recommend this movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Would I recommend this movie? Fuck, yeah.

[Paul Shearer]

It's morbid time, baby.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Even though I hated it, I would absolutely recommend it because exactly, kind of what you and June said, it's very slick. It's good. It's like, they do a good job, even though it makes no sense. It's a pile of garbage. And I don't care about any of this nonsense.

[Paul Shearer]

Yeah. I will say this, that this movie does pay off some dividends because I was watching it. June was about five minutes behind me, and occasionally I would get a little bit ahead of her and I'd look back and be like, I don't remember that scene at all. And she's only five minutes behind me. And there were things that I just straight up missed. And, like, it does pay off. There's more here. There's a lot going on, and I think you'll really.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a lot going on because we're watching Jared Leto. Oh, God. We're watching Jared Leto turn into a living vampire who has a thirst for blood and spicy Cheetos. Like when he takes down the counterfeit ring. He's like, you know, get out of here. You can take the money, but leave the spicy Cheetos. And I was like, is that what he's substituting?

[Paul Shearer]

And we all know, Michael, that Morbius is a hot Takis guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Actually, Michael, is there anything that you would like to say? I'd like to say this. If I got anything wrong, please leave me alone.

[Paul Shearer]

I online. Don't attack Michael online.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Poor Michael. Poor Michael's like, hey, if I got anything wrong, don't troll me online.

[Paul Shearer]

Thank you, Chicago.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We will be back. We did it, Chicago. That's right. Thanks everybody who wore costumes. Happy Halloween. Eat.

[Paul Shearer]

Thank you for listening to this episode of how did this get made. A big thank you to our amazing team. Our producers, Scott Sahni, Molly Reynolds. Our engineer Alex Gonzalez. Welcome to the show. And our movie picking producer, Avril Halley and our publisher, July Diaz. We will be back with more how did this get made? Next week for Last looks. Bye for now.

[June Day]

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