
Ready to enter a state of HULKAMANIA, brother? LIVE at Largo in LA, Thomas Lennon (Reno 911!) joins Paul, June, & Jason to discuss the 1989 Hulk Hogan classic, No Holds Barred! They cover everything from dookie pants and fighting guns with pies, to June learning that ‘No Holds Barred’ actually has a meaning. (Originally Released 03/25/2014)
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Adam Pally
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Tom Lennon
Possibility means you have a chance.
June Diane Raphael
Passion opens the door to all possibilities.
Tom Lennon
When I feel like anything's possible, I feel kind of giddy. I want to be an astronaut, an artist, an actress to visit another country.
June Diane Raphael
All I need is a backpack and.
Adam Pally
A pair of shoes and I'll find a way.
Tom Lennon
I'm able to do anything I set my mind to.
June Diane Raphael
I've never felt like more things are.
John Gabrus
Possible than right now. In the right shoes, anything is possible.
Adam Pally
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Tom Lennon
Countless shoes at bragworthy prices.
Adam Pally
Imagine the possibilities. It's a story of1Network TV President's desire to be the number one network in television and a shocking indictment of the glorification of violence in televised sports. We saw the thought provoking no holds barred. So you know what that means. Now it's time for how did this remain?
John Gabrus
Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the.
Adam Pally
Question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth and hello, people of Los Angeles. We are live at Largo, our home in Los Angeles, to do a very important live show. It is a night of Hulkamania here as we get into one of the classics of the Hulkulgan canon. But before we go any further, let me introduce my two co hosts. Please welcome Jason Mantzoukas and June Diane Rayfield.
John Gabrus
Wow.
Adam Pally
We have a very special guest here tonight, the amazingly talented, very funny Tom Lennon.
John Gabrus
Ooh, I like that you get I like that. Get an office chair.
Adam Pally
No, I don't like this. We are stepping up.
John Gabrus
I don't like the status of this.
Adam Pally
Tom is 4ft higher than everyone else.
John Gabrus
Why did we give Tom a high status joke?
June Diane Raphael
He's doing visual jokes on an audio podcast. Joke for the podcast.
Adam Pally
Guys. The year was 1989 and Hulk Hogan was the star of a feature big budget movie. This is an amazing movie.
John Gabrus
This movie boggled my mind, like, straight out of the gate. I did not know what was happening. And at the end of the movie, I did not care. I could talk about this movie all night long.
June Diane Raphael
I watched it. Thank you so much. And I had to buy this movie to watch it.
Adam Pally
Sorry about that.
June Diane Raphael
You're welcome. So I used my Amazon prime membership to own this forever.
Tom Lennon
And just so you know, Tom, we bought it twice.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Tom Lennon
Spent quite a bit of money.
June Diane Raphael
Have you guys ever seen some of those Mapplethorpe pictures where it's two, like, glistening cocks that hang? And you walk up and you're like, is this just two giant glistening cocks that are hanging an inch away from each other? That's exactly what this movie is. I felt like, veiny and throbbing.
John Gabrus
I felt like veiny and throbbing.
June Diane Raphael
Everybody's.
Adam Pally
Everyone is veiny and throbby in this mo.
June Diane Raphael
There is no line that is not growled.
Adam Pally
I will. I was saying that for this, this must be a first that the lead actor in a film, his first sounds for the first five minutes are all just grunts and growl.
John Gabrus
No, not just the lead actor. I would say, like most of the actors in this movie have nothing to do. But.
June Diane Raphael
Not to shoot my load. Ladies and gentlemen, Tiny Tom. Tiny Lister. Yeah. Says two things.
Adam Pally
This blew my mind. You just told me this.
June Diane Raphael
He's on the box doing this. But he says the things he says in the entire. What is it? The movie's like four and a half, five hours.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabrus
By the way, I genuinely wish it was.
Adam Pally
I never wanted it to end because it kept on getting crazy.
John Gabrus
Yep. Yep.
June Diane Raphael
Tiny Lister as the main villains. This is everything he says in the entire film.
John Gabrus
First. First line is first.
Adam Pally
Opening line. Right?
Tom Lennon
I did. I don't know what you just said.
John Gabrus
Yep. He said his own name. Zeus.
June Diane Raphael
Zeus. And then the next thing he says, like in Act 3, when they need. They're like, hey, should. Should the main villain say anything? He says, Zeus, don't guess.
John Gabrus
Yep, I know. Yeah. Those are his only. Only lines.
Adam Pally
But here is the thing. I didn't realize that until Tom said it. That's how good of an Actor.
John Gabrus
He is.
Adam Pally
I didn't carry the movie on grunts and grounds. I'd like to see Brad Pitt do that.
Tom Lennon
Did anyone understand the eyebrows were drawn on with pencil?
Adam Pally
Okay, I have a question.
John Gabrus
Where are those eyebrows?
June Diane Raphael
Tiny Lister's right eyebrow is drawn on just to make things a million times crazier.
John Gabrus
One of them is like, you know what his eyebrows are? His eyebrows are legitimately a check mark. Because one is half an eyebrow, it connects to the other one. Full eyebrow. There is a check mark on this gentleman's head.
Tom Lennon
But here's the thing. It would have been. Okay, it would have been a choice if they had taken half of his eyebrows and shaved them off. Like, if they shaved off a half an eyebrow. Okay, that's a choice.
John Gabrus
Yep.
Tom Lennon
But the choice you wouldn't expect at all.
John Gabrus
No, no, no.
Tom Lennon
Is to draw on half an eyebrow.
John Gabrus
Sure.
Tom Lennon
To pencil it in.
John Gabrus
Y. And that is a creative hair and makeup artist. There is somebody who's willing to say, let's make a statement with this.
June Diane Raphael
It's cause Joan Severance was hogging the makeup chair.
Adam Pally
This movie.
June Diane Raphael
Are you guys done with Joan? We got it. We gotta get Tiny in here, guys. Come on, you guys.
Adam Pally
This movie, just to give you guys an idea, if you have not seen.
Avril Haley
It, Hulk Hogan is.
John Gabrus
If you haven't seen it, go fuck yourself.
Adam Pally
Stop what you're doing. If you're listening to the stuff, stop what you're doing. Your life will only get better.
John Gabrus
There are a lot of movies we do on the podcast that it's like, you know what? You don't have to have watched this, you know, or we took the bullet for you. Stop everything. Leave the theater right now.
Adam Pally
I feel like it is like the room in the sense that I could watch this again and be thoroughly entertained. Oh, yes.
Tom Lennon
Oh.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, please. It makes the room look like the Magnificent Ambersons.
John Gabrus
Yes. The much better Orson Welles movie than Citizen K Y.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't go crazy.
John Gabrus
No, no, I get it.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't say so.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Well, let's just say that the movie opens up with this image which is just Jesse Ventura wearing a Cleopatra wig. Go. Here, just take that. That's where we're starting.
John Gabrus
Jesse Ventura and Jean and Mean Gene.
Adam Pally
With Mean Gene.
John Gabrus
And they are Jesse and Mean Gene.
Adam Pally
Yes.
John Gabrus
This is where it gets. It starts off real confusing.
June Diane Raphael
It starts with the Cleopatra thing and I' like, oh, wait, isn't that Hulk Hogan?
Tom Lennon
Oh.
John Gabrus
Oh.
Adam Pally
But they are elected this man governor. That's the other thing. I. When I saw this, I was like, wow, we elected we elected this man governor.
John Gabrus
We.
June Diane Raphael
But no, no, Minnesota.
John Gabrus
We all moved to Minnesota for that.
Adam Pally
Yeah, but that is crazy. That is a crazy thing. The Hulk Hogan just made sex tapes. This guy.
John Gabrus
At this point, whenever I see Jesse Ventura or whenever I hear him on Howard Stern or anything, all I picture is James Adomian. It is. It is only Adomian, Jesse Ventura that comes through.
Adam Pally
So basically, the Hulk is.
June Diane Raphael
He plays the carrot. Is. Can anyone for a million dollars, why did they not call his character Hulk Hogan?
Adam Pally
Yeah, why the fuck they give him.
June Diane Raphael
This fucking made up name?
Adam Pally
The reason is why is because his name is owned by the ww, who produced the film.
John Gabrus
But this was produced by the wwf.
June Diane Raphael
It's produced by them. It also made. Right, but you could tell he's having trouble remembering his name.
John Gabrus
I couldn't figure that out. It made no sense.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, that's me.
John Gabrus
Well, because Jesse is Jet. Jesse.
June Diane Raphael
Say Hulk and then say Rip and then we'll cut out the Hulk part.
John Gabrus
Mean, Genius mean.
June Diane Raphael
We just won't use that part.
John Gabrus
A lot of the wrestlers are their own name.
Adam Pally
Well, I think that Hulk was trying to branch out. He was like, rip is very different than Hulk.
John Gabrus
Yeah, that's probably what I love.
Tom Lennon
Character. He wanted to act.
John Gabrus
Yeah, that's probably what I love about.
Adam Pally
Hulk Hogan in this movie is like, he. He's like, when rap stars do like comedy, they can't not look cool. Like, they always have to look cool. And Hulk has to. Hulk has never shown up by anything like.
John Gabrus
Except his hair.
June Diane Raphael
No, but. But it's also clear, like they're. They're dangling something to get him to look in the right place. Like. Like it's exactly if you were shooting a cat food comm. Like there's a feeling of. Let me tell you something, Jimmy. And there's just this. Like it's an entire film.
John Gabrus
He's some sort of wrestling magpie, is what you're saying.
June Diane Raphael
There's literally not a user.
Tom Lennon
There's actually a scene. I don't know if anybody else picked up on this, but there's a scene in the conference room at the network.
June Diane Raphael
Hulk is on at the World Television Network.
Adam Pally
The World.
John Gabrus
Wait, which one? The other one starts off on.
Adam Pally
Wait. Oh, he's on another.
John Gabrus
Well, this. This. Okay, this is a. This is a movie that is about a battle between television networks.
Tom Lennon
Yes. So Hulk Hogan starts. Rip. Starts off at a network called I.
John Gabrus
Can't Remember, but not the other One.
Tom Lennon
Not the one News television is trying to lure him away. And on tv, right.
Adam Pally
Because in this World wrestling is so big that networks are in the toilet because wrestling is so like. Wrestling is. Everyone's watching wrestling.
John Gabrus
Oh, by the way, if you had.
Adam Pally
The Cosby show or Cheers, it was doing nothing without it.
June Diane Raphael
You do get the number one wrestling show. They're willing to perpetrate rapes and murders.
John Gabrus
Yes. Yeah, that's correct. And also over and over. Also, wrestling in this universe is real.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
It doesn't care how many rapes you have to perpetrate. It's horrifying.
Adam Pally
Well.
Tom Lennon
And also they end up. And I'm sorry to jump around, but the World Television Network.
John Gabrus
How dare you. It's going to be so confusing.
Tom Lennon
The World Television Network plucks what's her face. I don't remember. Samantha.
Adam Pally
Yes.
Tom Lennon
From an agency. To become the.
June Diane Raphael
She's a turncoat.
John Gabrus
She was a mole at the other television guys.
Adam Pally
We're talking about it. We are going.
June Diane Raphael
Let's go. Let's go back a second. Because we're getting way far ahead of ourselves.
Adam Pally
Yeah, we are.
June Diane Raphael
Joan Severance will be a turncoat.
Adam Pally
Don't. Spoiler alert.
June Diane Raphael
Let's.
Adam Pally
Yeah, I do want to. Just before we even get into the movie, I want to just picture one thing in your mind and say this. Apparently, Hulk Hogan and what's his name, Vince McMahon got the script. They did not like it, spent 72 hours in a hotel together and rewrote it from scratch. I would kill to be anywhere near that room. The amount of cocaine and the story ideas. That would have been an amazing room, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
Who's typing?
John Gabrus
And how many. How many types writers did they break every time they.
Adam Pally
Every time they make a spelling mistake? Slow motion.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
They're also doing this on an apple Iie.
Adam Pally
So just so you guys know, wrestling is the biggest thing. This World Television Network is in the toilet because they don't have a compelling wrestling star. So they want to get rip, AKA Hulk.
John Gabrus
Rip him up. That's his catchphrase, which is like the sh.
Adam Pally
And he does like a Shaka. Like Hawaiian flying, kind of like hand signal.
John Gabrus
If this finger is a little. I looked at it.
June Diane Raphael
It's almost a fishbone.
John Gabrus
This is a little stretch. And this is up.
June Diane Raphael
It's Shaka. It's half shaka, half fishbone.
John Gabrus
And he does it all. He's done exiting rooms. Yeah. He comes looks back and he's like.
Adam Pally
Also. So you know this. This movie took place in the part of the 80s where everyone looked like pedophiles.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Joan Severance looks exactly like the COVID of Rio.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
She does in every moment.
Adam Pally
Joan Severance. We have a lot to get into.
John Gabrus
Oh, there is so much to talk about. Her line deliveries are unfathomable.
June Diane Raphael
She's by far the best thing in the movie.
John Gabrus
The story about Christopher Walken is that when he reads a script, the first thing he does is he goes through his script and he takes out all of the punctuation. Joan Severance puts it all back in. Her entire analysis is like, I'm gonna put periods after. Just a bunch of words.
Adam Pally
I looked up what she's done since, and I was surprised that she wasn't.
Avril Haley
In a lot more.
Adam Pally
Oh.
June Diane Raphael
What I will say it's unfair. Joan Severance was in a Playboy in the early 80s at some point. So it was kind of unfair. Cause as soon as she came in, I had a soft spot for her or I had a hard spot for her.
John Gabrus
She's the kind of. She's the kind of like. Like hot in a Playboy that when we were kids, you hoped you would find in the woods.
Adam Pally
Yes.
John Gabrus
You know what I mean?
Adam Pally
Like, it was very well done.
John Gabrus
We're talking sexy Joan Collins now.
Tom Lennon
Did you go to the woods?
John Gabrus
You always. You always found out you went to the woods looking for pornos.
Adam Pally
That's where I found.
John Gabrus
And by the way, they were there.
Adam Pally
That was the unspoken rule. I had a. A Penthouse. A Penthouse air freshener that I found in the woods.
Tom Lennon
I'm trying to imagine the person, though, who felt they had to hide that in the woods.
John Gabrus
Oh, you know what? I don't want my mom to see this. I'll put it in the woods.
Adam Pally
And I took that shit and put it in a safe.
June Diane Raphael
Before. Before the Internet, we all had a little bit of Jeff Dahmer in us.
John Gabrus
Yeah. But that was the thing when you had to be.
June Diane Raphael
Had to be wily.
John Gabrus
Yeah. When you were traipsing around in the woods, you would look in, like, old stumps or under things. Because we were boys. Fucking weirdos would put pornos. And as a kid, it's your job to find that shit.
Adam Pally
We were. We were boys with boners on a mission.
John Gabrus
Because, by the way, there was no fucking Internet. There wasn't an Internet to jerk off to. Could you have it?
June Diane Raphael
There was a crinkly black and white of Joan Severance.
John Gabrus
That someone else had used. That's what I want you to really think about. These aren't hours. These are communal pornos.
Adam Pally
Communal porno. All right, well, look, the performance of the movie, in my opinion.
June Diane Raphael
Kurt Fuller.
Adam Pally
Kurt Fuller.
John Gabrus
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Tom Lennon
Hats off.
Adam Pally
I tweeted at him today to see if I could get him to come here. It was too little, too late. But here is a scene just so you get an idea of the level of bringing it that Kurt Fuller is doing.
June Diane Raphael
Cells.
John Gabrus
This is what people want. This is what I want. Now, which one of you is going to go out and get it for me?
June Diane Raphael
The grip is already under contract to another network.
John Gabrus
Mr. Prowl, tell me something I don't already know. Johnston contracts are nothing but words.
Avril Haley
But.
June Diane Raphael
Mr. Brella, I'm told that Rip's word is his bond.
Avril Haley
Bond.
John Gabrus
Then we get him to break his bond. What's his price? That's what I want to know. What's his price? With all due respect, Mr. Brell, this.
Tom Lennon
Guy'S always asking me tough questions.
John Gabrus
Oh, God, please be wise, eyes and every last one of you, spare me your mealy mouth.
Adam Pally
With all due respect crap.
John Gabrus
What this network needs, this network gets.
Adam Pally
I promise you that.
John Gabrus
Even Rip has his price.
Tom Lennon
He's amazing. Here's what I'm sad about, though. What I'm sad about is that you didn't. Didn't play the entire clip of when he walks around the table and tells one of the female executives.
John Gabrus
Yes, yes, go take a leak.
June Diane Raphael
Take up.
John Gabrus
He goes, can I do this, please?
Adam Pally
Take a leak.
John Gabrus
Wait, this is. He goes, take a leak.
Adam Pally
He doesn't push her. No. Right. He only pushes later.
Tom Lennon
Pushes someone later. But that.
June Diane Raphael
The bummer is that he's one of.
Tom Lennon
The funniest things I've ever heard. It's war is.
Adam Pally
He is now the best.
June Diane Raphael
He's the me of then.
Adam Pally
By the.
June Diane Raphael
Way, kind of a bummer.
Adam Pally
He is sitting in front of a bust of himself in that scene. I froze it a few times. That is definitely a bust of himself. He is at a boardroom table that is like a V that he is at the head of. So his desk almost has two jutting out legs where people are on either side, which I thought was a great idea.
June Diane Raphael
Well, it's called the World Television Network.
Adam Pally
He's like Bill Murray's character from Scrooge without the redemption.
Tom Lennon
So.
June Diane Raphael
And the irony.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah.
Tom Lennon
Are we to understand that on this network, there's news channel, like there's news.
Adam Pally
There's sitcoms because people are pitching sitcoms.
June Diane Raphael
Like people say, what about a game show? People like those.
Adam Pally
Take a leak.
June Diane Raphael
What about a sitcom? Those are the pitches of his highest level executives.
John Gabrus
Okay. My favorite thing. My favorite thing he says to his guys is. He goes, they're watching, by the way, the first. The first scene is Hulk and Rip in like a but in a match. And then it cuts to these douches in a conference room watching it.
Tom Lennon
Okay, the best thing about the conference too is I want that. Yes, I want.
John Gabrus
I want that jock ass. He keeps calling Jockass. He keeps calling Hulk. I want that jock ass on this network. Ten o' clock tomorrow, boardroom. Period.
Avril Haley
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Adam Pally
But now my question is when Kurt Fuller brings him to the office, his tactic to woo Hulk is not very good.
June Diane Raphael
He basically, the scene unfolds like, look here, Rip. Everyone's got their price. And the Hulkster's response is, I guess you haven't heard about. Maybe you haven't heard about my charity work.
Adam Pally
Word for word.
June Diane Raphael
That was the most usable take, by the way.
Adam Pally
Also such a shoehorn thing. Rip cares about the kids. He does charity never stop.
June Diane Raphael
They never stop saying about how he cares about the kids.
Tom Lennon
We find out later on, because we do see him do his charity work, that the name of his charity is simply Sports for Kids.
Adam Pally
Well, okay, the titling in this movie is pretty bad because Just fucking finished.
June Diane Raphael
Gets Sports for Kids.
Tom Lennon
Sports for Kids.
June Diane Raphael
And the TV network is called the World Television Network.
Adam Pally
Go, go. We only have 71 more hours to finish this screenplay.
John Gabrus
Keep going. Keep writing, Vince. Keep writing, brother.
June Diane Raphael
You're right, it is Vince typing.
Adam Pally
So Kurt. Kurt Fuller essentially is like, you have a price.
June Diane Raphael
Everyone Has a price.
Adam Pally
Hulk says no. At which point, Kurt Fuller, his next move is.
John Gabrus
What are you telling me my money.
Adam Pally
Is ain't good enough for you? Like, immediately. That is next. Hey, Kurt.
June Diane Raphael
One more with some energy, because this is a movie now, Kurt, how are.
John Gabrus
People gonna know if you're mad? Brother.
Adam Pally
Hey, brother.
June Diane Raphael
Hey, brother.
Adam Pally
Get as close to their face as you can, brother.
June Diane Raphael
I want you in this thing, man. When we met that day at the Earth Cafe, I thought we were in this together.
John Gabrus
When we smoked that devil weed, brother. When we shared that jazz cigarette, brother.
June Diane Raphael
I didn't know you were gonna phone it in.
Adam Pally
Hulk then proceeds to rip up the check, beat up everyone in his office. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
June Diane Raphael
So he rips up the check. He shoves it into Kurt Fuller's mouth.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
And he says, Can I say it, please?
John Gabrus
Oh, it's so good.
June Diane Raphael
I won't be there when that clears.
John Gabrus
And then I think that's when he gives this. When he's exiting the room, exits the.
Adam Pally
Room, he gives the shocker. Like, that was fun. Like, it was. It was sort of like it was his. It wasn't like, yeah, did it. It was kind of like, yeah, that's my thing. It's.
June Diane Raphael
It's a film of casual attempted murder at 20 different points.
Tom Lennon
But here's the weird thing about Rip's character. I. You know, why doesn't he want to go to the other network? Why is this.
John Gabrus
It's not like he did really dig into this.
June Diane Raphael
He doesn't work at, like, he doesn't live in On a mountain with, like, monks. He's on a different TV network.
Tom Lennon
That's what I'm saying.
June Diane Raphael
And the other TV network. And his word is.
John Gabrus
Kurt Fuller does. Said contracts are just words.
Adam Pally
And I. I believe they. They did say that his word is his bond. Like, he's a faithful.
June Diane Raphael
That his word is his bond.
Adam Pally
Take a leak.
June Diane Raphael
Why does he tell the lady to take a leak? It is the weirdest.
Tom Lennon
It's the best thing I've ever.
John Gabrus
Well, it's the weirdest thing. He tells her to take a leak. And not too much. Not too soon thereafter, A man does his own pants.
Adam Pally
Whoa. We can't get into that. Just wait, wait.
John Gabrus
Do you have this?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Oh, I got that.
John Gabrus
So. So what's.
June Diane Raphael
What's the craziest performance of anything I've ever seen?
John Gabrus
Yes. This is. This is truly, truly, truly erotic. So the life.
Adam Pally
I have so many things to say about. About this. I guess we should just set up the scene because they have a little bit of the limo scene.
June Diane Raphael
So he leaves. He shoves the check into Kurt fuller's mouth. He says, I won't be there when that clears. Was that. Do we get that?
Adam Pally
Got it. Moving on.
June Diane Raphael
Check it, Hulk.
Adam Pally
It's perfect.
John Gabrus
Check the game.
Adam Pally
Check it, Print it.
June Diane Raphael
Then they put him in a death limo.
Adam Pally
Yes. A limo with all steel windows that have the steel window function.
Tom Lennon
And by the way, the world television network. Network seems to be located in a very rural area.
John Gabrus
Yes.
Adam Pally
It's like the wwf. It's like in Fairfield, Connecticut.
John Gabrus
Also. Their resources. Their resources are that of Bond villains.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabrus
Why does, like, I mean, maybe. I mean, I guess I, I was gonna ask this question, and I was like, of course he does. Does Rupert Murdoch have a limousine with steel gates? And then I was like, yep, probably does.
Tom Lennon
Oh, probably does.
John Gabrus
No, no, straight up.
June Diane Raphael
I work for news corp a lot. He does. He does.
John Gabrus
Yeah. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Well, this is the other thing is plan B in this movie is always murder.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
The first plan is go talk to him four seconds after that.
Tom Lennon
Murder.
Adam Pally
Well, you're forgetting the second step. Talk to him, yell at him.
John Gabrus
Murder.
Adam Pally
Yeah, they do have a middle step.
John Gabrus
Well, that's what's going to be my question. Because Hulk gets in the limo, the steal windows, et cetera. And then he fights the limousine.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, when he kicks.
John Gabrus
But why is the guy taking himself.
June Diane Raphael
When he kicks the door from the inside, it makes the limousine careen off the road.
John Gabrus
Oh, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
I'm not you at all.
Adam Pally
You will see it in this scene. Yeah. His physical force in the back seat of a limousine moves it off the ground like you're driving, like, left, as.
John Gabrus
If every, as if every, Every punch and kick Hulk does is a punch to someone's face they need to react to. Only the reaction is coming from the driver of the car that he's in.
June Diane Raphael
In a totally safe steel box on the other side of him.
John Gabrus
Yes. Yeah.
Adam Pally
I would like to see mythbusters on this. Could this happen? You could get Hulk in a car. All right, so here. Here we go. So, guys.
John Gabrus
So mythbusters guys, Adam, Jamie, if you're listening, please come and do the this episode.
Adam Pally
By the way, they need to do a whole no holds barred episode. How long does it take for a check to clear? Here we go. What's that smell?
John Gabrus
It's a spooky that happened in this movie.
Tom Lennon
I, I, I think I had this feeling when I was watching it, but I couldn't articulate it until now. I think the actor who says that line is wearing Like a disguise.
June Diane Raphael
He's got a hairpiece on for sure.
Tom Lennon
Yeah, he has a hairpiece on. But it almost seems like he knew what he had to do. They had a hard time casting it and he was like, I'll do it. I'll absolutely do it if I can wear a disguise.
Adam Pally
But.
June Diane Raphael
But by the way. So he's. He's literally.
John Gabrus
I don't think his name is probably.
June Diane Raphael
Go back to what his pants look like, cuz they're actually just soaked with water.
Adam Pally
Well, that's what I wanted to talk about.
John Gabrus
And then he says on the outside.
Adam Pally
Of his suit, Jackie the dookie. Yeah, the dook is really vile looking.
June Diane Raphael
It's. It's just wet.
Adam Pally
It's.
Tom Lennon
Go to the wide shot.
John Gabrus
Look how high up it goes.
June Diane Raphael
That's.
John Gabrus
Look how high up it is, guys.
June Diane Raphael
That's not doy.
Adam Pally
But I, I felt like it was a liquidy diarrhea, like, right? Or he pissed himself and he.
June Diane Raphael
Himself.
Adam Pally
But if you pissed there, Paul, it.
June Diane Raphael
Goes to his fucking shoulder blades.
John Gabrus
It's up here.
June Diane Raphael
His shoulder blades. I feel like, period.
Adam Pally
I feel like they were like they weren't confident in the line. What's that smell? It's dookie. Like we need to show the audience. We need to show.
Tom Lennon
Say, why not put him in a lighter suit?
Adam Pally
Like a white suit, Like a white linen suit.
June Diane Raphael
Everybody's. Everybody's a critic. Fucking Monday morning quarterback. They're looking, they're looking at the dailies doing cocaine. Can you guys tell it's dookie? It looks like he just. His shoulder blades pissed.
Adam Pally
So anyway, we want to have this scene. It's a great fight scene. Hulk literally busts through a steel grate, lands on the top of a car, beats up all these guys. At the end, this guy shits his pants. And it's gonna be great scene. It's gonna be a really great scene.
June Diane Raphael
It's interesting because it is when they introduce, without any discussion of it, that Hulk Hogan has superpowers.
Adam Pally
Yes.
John Gabrus
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
He's literally not from Earth.
Adam Pally
He comes out like the Incredible Hulk in that way. Like. Like he pops out.
John Gabrus
Well, how about like all of his like facial craziness? And then he's like. He's like a feral animal at the end.
June Diane Raphael
Like at the end of every day. They're like, hulk, there's two pages we didn't get. So we're just gonna roll just a ton of B roll and just. You're mad. Your neck, your eyes are big, your neck. You're growling, you're mad. Neck Growl eyes, guttural neck.
Adam Pally
I, I do imagine that this was a control apple save moment when, when, when him and Vince McMahon came up with Dookie and they're like, we did enough work for tonight. Let's go, let's go.
June Diane Raphael
Let's go down to the bar and meet some honeys.
John Gabrus
In the next scene, I think we meet Joan Severance, right?
June Diane Raphael
Don't we go to the hillbilly bar pretty soon?
Tom Lennon
That's next scene.
Adam Pally
Yeah, the next one is he's at.
Tom Lennon
His home network after the next scene.
John Gabrus
I believe now, where he meets Joan Severance. She's come in, she's like the new gal in town.
June Diane Raphael
She's his new. I believe she's his new, like, boss. Touring agent.
Adam Pally
Yeah, touring agent.
June Diane Raphael
Like Rip, which is your. And he's like, oh, that's my character's name.
Adam Pally
Really?
John Gabrus
I'm Hulk Hogan. Wink, wink.
June Diane Raphael
Meet your new tour agent.
John Gabrus
You probably know this. She knows who you are. Sorry she called me Rip. She's pretty. I just want to make sure she knows it's me, Hulk. Hulkamania brother.
Adam Pally
I mean, I'm the star of the movie.
June Diane Raphael
You might recognize her from the COVID of the Rio album. It's Joan Severance. And she comes in and she's no nonsense.
John Gabrus
She's no nonsense. But he talks back to her and he gives her the. He gives her this. He gives. He says, this year. He goes, maybe we can talk about this later. And she goes, five, eight o'. Clock, I'll pick you up dinner. Dressy.
Adam Pally
But everyone talks like this.
John Gabrus
Everyone talks like there's an abundance of periods.
June Diane Raphael
But I believe at one point he also mentions, why not ask me about my charity work?
Adam Pally
Me does indeed.
June Diane Raphael
Again, fucking nailing it home.
Tom Lennon
And I do understand why she had to clarify. Dressy. Because he wears.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, oh, do we have. Do you have a still?
Adam Pally
I have, I have. He wears the.
June Diane Raphael
He wears the Saturday Night Fever suit, minus the black shirt, nude with a white on white thing. There's no headgear. So it's just like the beautiful. His locks and the pate.
Tom Lennon
It's an interesting meeting with the network because she just seems to want to talk about his character and sort of, you know, make sure they're branding him the right way. And he doesn't want to talk about his character.
Adam Pally
Well, he doesn't seem to be there's any problem. He's the number one wrestler in the world. Like, why would they need to rebrand?
Tom Lennon
Now I'm wondering, like, why did he even take the meeting at World News.
Adam Pally
Because he's a polite guy.
Tom Lennon
No, he's a nice guy.
Adam Pally
If you invite Hulk for dinner because.
June Diane Raphael
His word is his bond. What the fuck's wrong with you people? And he accidentally said, okay. Oh, crap, I forgot my words.
John Gabrus
I also think. I also think. Think the two networks have only one letter difference. So maybe he just.
Tom Lennon
He just got confused.
June Diane Raphael
He put it down.
Tom Lennon
Because here's the weird.
Adam Pally
Send a limo for a Hulk. He'll get in it and go wherever you take him.
Tom Lennon
He did say thank you for the ride.
June Diane Raphael
He did until you try to kill him.
Adam Pally
It was the early. It was the late 80s. People got in limos. It was fun.
Tom Lennon
It's just odd because the stakes of this movie are really his allegiance to a huge corporation.
John Gabrus
Oh, yeah.
Tom Lennon
Well, those are the emotional stakes, which. Well, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, no, no. Then it's later. It's going to be about.
Tom Lennon
It's going to be about his brother, of course. And.
John Gabrus
Oh, and true love.
Tom Lennon
I'm. True love.
Adam Pally
They. They go out for. They go out to dinner in one of those cool abandoned churches.
June Diane Raphael
Actually, it's. It's actually my. It's my favorite scene in the entire movie. But it's very clear from the abandoned church that they're like, Hulkster. Look, we got the wrestling place here. There's an abandoned church. We could put a bunch of tables in. We just go. Everybody sound good with that? It good.
Adam Pally
Go.
June Diane Raphael
Shut up.
Adam Pally
They start off on a stained glass window like an organ player, right?
John Gabrus
Or.
Adam Pally
And then down into a beautiful restaurant.
John Gabrus
Beautiful, beautiful.
Tom Lennon
Jason.
John Gabrus
Beautiful in quotes, right? Now, the.
June Diane Raphael
The snooty maitre d. Then there's like. It's literally 12 minutes.
Tom Lennon
Oh, my God.
June Diane Raphael
Of him humiliating the Hulkster.
Adam Pally
Well, this is. And this is what I was talking about. He goes to his French dress, and you're like. As an audience, you're like, oh, this guy is so out of place. I mean, he doesn't know.
Tom Lennon
Oh, boy, oh, boy.
Adam Pally
He does not act a French.
June Diane Raphael
He's a fucking restless guy. Comes in and says, all we have is poisson and coca la vin and. Oh, you would never understand in a million years.
Adam Pally
Maybe you want a hamburger American or hot dog foot long.
June Diane Raphael
Hot dog de foot. He just offers hot dog to foot.
Adam Pally
Long and then offers it. And then goes, we don't have that. That.
June Diane Raphael
And then the bus boys come out.
John Gabrus
The bus boy has been waving to him the whole time.
Adam Pally
And standing not even a foot apart. They are.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, they're right there.
Adam Pally
And then.
John Gabrus
And that is the part I would have auditioned for.
June Diane Raphael
And then of course the chef comes. This is. It's a great. It was my favorite scene in the whole entire movie. The chef comes out and says, why.
Adam Pally
Poir you not tell us that our.
June Diane Raphael
Friend Rip is here? Rip is magnifique to see you.
Adam Pally
He is such a loyal customer that they even say, do you want the regular?
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
And he says, decord. Or.
Adam Pally
That was.
June Diane Raphael
It's something like decord. That's what it is.
Adam Pally
Bonjourno.
June Diane Raphael
But that was the great. Think the Hulkster doesn't know French you.
John Gabrus
But. But, like, if we look at this for a second, if everybody on staff recognizes Rip, why doesn't the maitre d know?
Tom Lennon
Well, because they do say the maitre d is new.
Adam Pally
Ah, right. He said the major D hadn't been there because he. If they was, he would know that Rip comes into that French restaurant every night.
Tom Lennon
Apparently, you know, that's a good diet for a wrestler.
Adam Pally
French food.
John Gabrus
Yep.
Tom Lennon
The maitre d is, like, really taking some liberties. It's, I guess, his first day on the job.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
Adam Pally
He's assuming.
John Gabrus
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
He's a horrible thing.
Adam Pally
Hulk is dressed up like. Hulk doesn't cut me me. In this movie. He's wearing a lot of headbands and a lot of, like, onesies. But in this, he does.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, you can see the outline and veins of his cock every single scene. And it's. What's the one scene where you cannot see actual veinage and, like, the pulsing of his heart from his dick, like an ET where it's just like. You're like, wow, the Hulk's pulse rate's gone up. Cause his veins are throbbing in his dick.
Adam Pally
Have you ever. If you haven't, you must. But if anyone ever seen the whole Colgan sex tape.
John Gabrus
Oh, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
I'm going to fill up my wine while we talk about that.
Adam Pally
Yes. It is amazing. And one part where he is fucking. He goes, ooh, shouldn't have that sushi.
John Gabrus
Come on, guys.
Tom Lennon
It just looks like. Honestly, when I. When I look at him in this movie, it looks like it's uncomfortable to be him.
John Gabrus
Yes.
Adam Pally
Let me ask.
John Gabrus
It looks like his body is going to explode and a smaller man is going to come out of it and be like, oh, thank God.
Tom Lennon
Yeah.
John Gabrus
I've been trapped in here for years. It's been a horrible nightmare.
June Diane Raphael
Like quattro. Yeah. June has quattro in there. Trying to.
Adam Pally
As a woman roughly of Hulk's age, at that point, what were you attracted?
John Gabrus
Wait, what are you asking?
Adam Pally
Why am I saying not of now? I'm saying, like, Like, I'm saying, like, Hulk was probably about our age.
Tom Lennon
So you're saying that in 89, I was Hulk's age?
Adam Pally
No, now, like.
June Diane Raphael
But you're a young lady exploring your body and learning about it.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Tom Lennon
Hulk Hogan looks terrible in this movie. And I know we're not talking about. We have another Hulk movie to discuss in a little bit, but I'm really upset about his hair. I'm really upset.
Adam Pally
What would you.
John Gabrus
What do you mean?
June Diane Raphael
Why not stop asking about his hair and ask about his charity work?
Adam Pally
I feel like the other finger was supposed to come out, but steroids.
June Diane Raphael
This one's going squirrely on me, little boy.
John Gabrus
I broke it too many times, brother.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, that little. That little won't fall in line anymore.
John Gabrus
It's my trick finger. Trick finger, brother.
Adam Pally
So, June, when you were talking about his hair.
Tom Lennon
Well, it's such a shocking color, and it's such a shock of blonde hair.
John Gabrus
Totally natural.
June Diane Raphael
He basically looks like nude clown.
John Gabrus
Yeah, he has like.
June Diane Raphael
You're like.
John Gabrus
Is that like.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, that guy was supposed to be a rodeo clown, but someone streaked off all the color. Yeah. There's no color left, and now it's just nude clown.
Tom Lennon
That's exactly right.
John Gabrus
But I wouldn't not be surprised if someone smudged him if there was paint underneath. Do you know what I mean?
Adam Pally
Like, he has a white base, and then they put tan on top of the white base.
John Gabrus
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
Like, foundation. My issue is he is a bald man. Why not just cut that?
John Gabrus
Party in the back. He's like, brother, that's my power, brother. I'm like, Samson. His. He has, like. For a giant behemoth of a man, he has, like, fine doll's hair.
Tom Lennon
That's what's upsetting about it. Like, Barbie hair.
John Gabrus
Like, honestly. Yeah. Like, my nieces have dolls that have thicker, more lustrous hair than him. He had extra maneuver mustache.
Adam Pally
He doesn't have, like, a powerful mane. So just like. Like, I thought, like, for a while, like, I was like, oh, he's wearing those bandanas to hide it. He's not ever hiding it. It's always out and about.
June Diane Raphael
It's a choice, brother.
John Gabrus
It's me and Vince Neil in this to the end, brother. Bandana brothers.
Adam Pally
Well, obviously. So, you know, look, Kurt Fuller needs to find somebody else, and he goes to the local bar.
Tom Lennon
I'm getting so nervous. We're gonna run out of time.
Adam Pally
We are going pretty slow. We are going.
John Gabrus
There's so much. I mean. I mean, dwarf in a cage, dog in a cage.
Tom Lennon
There's so Much to talk about. And I'm.
John Gabrus
I mean, these are just headlines. These are just headlines.
Adam Pally
I mean, mean, there's so much. I mean, when they gor.
June Diane Raphael
Cage really bugged me a lot.
John Gabrus
Oh.
Adam Pally
Dwarf in a cage. Never gets excited.
John Gabrus
Cage is in it throughout. Never gets explained.
Adam Pally
But it's like a dwarf.
June Diane Raphael
They go to this disgusting hillbilly bar. Disgusting place where everyone's disgusting. There's a 25 minute scene where David Pamer and the other guy who's kind of like me, go to the bathroom.
Adam Pally
I was going to say. Yeah, I was going to say I could play the David Pamer part if you were playing the Kurt F. On the other. Oh, yeah, yeah. You'd be the head guy. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
If they make this today, bro, we're set.
Adam Pally
I'm so psyched.
John Gabrus
Can I say this for real? I will write a sequel to this movie starring you guys and Hulk Hogan.
Adam Pally
By the way, the WWE just launched an app. This could go right to them immediately.
June Diane Raphael
Done and done.
Adam Pally
Oh, my God. No, they didn't take us up on Sharknado 2, which is a huge mistake.
John Gabrus
Huge mistake.
Adam Pally
We offered it.
June Diane Raphael
They go. So they go to this hillbilly bar where there's no rules about fighting. They keep a dwarf in a cage.
Adam Pally
Never explain why, but the dwarf seems happy there. And also there's a prankster up there.
June Diane Raphael
He'll throw.
John Gabrus
He's a real trick.
June Diane Raphael
Throw money in your drink.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
For some reason, which Irish people. I think that's lucky. But in this place, they go. It's. There's no rules. No, this is the first. The concept.
John Gabrus
There are holds barred.
Adam Pally
There are no here. There are no are being barred. Oh, this. Actually. Actually, I want to talk about this June, if you will indulge me. This. June and I were in the car one time, I was like, hey, we're doing no holds barred. She said, that doesn't mean anything. You thought I had the title wrong. I told you to not explain yourself.
Tom Lennon
Well, I now know what it means after watching the movie. I had not heard the expression before.
John Gabrus
No holds barred.
Tom Lennon
I had never heard that expression.
Adam Pally
But you never heard the word barred, right? That was the issue.
Tom Lennon
Well, I still may not know what it means. I'm gonna be totally honest.
June Diane Raphael
Well, that's okay.
John Gabrus
Let's un. Unpack this. What do you think it means?
Tom Lennon
Okay, what I think it means in the context of this movie is there are certain wrestling holds.
June Diane Raphael
Sometimes. Sometimes they're barred. And that's bard.
Tom Lennon
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
John Gabrus
Bar meaning bar.
Tom Lennon
That move like, that's not going to fly here. Those holds.
John Gabrus
Those holds aren't going to fly here. Yeah.
Tom Lennon
Those holds will get you disqualify.
Adam Pally
Like sleeper hold is a, is a, a non barred rule.
June Diane Raphael
Non barred.
Tom Lennon
Right. But in the bar there are no holds that are barred.
John Gabrus
Oh yeah, Is that so?
Tom Lennon
Is that right? Okay, thank you. I never heard of it before.
Adam Pally
So they go to this. There's wrestling going on. And it doesn't even seem to be the main event of this bar.
June Diane Raphael
It just seems to be a second one's literally monsters.
John Gabrus
Yes, yes.
June Diane Raphael
It's. It's basically like a world created by Frank Miller that Frank Miller didn't know about.
Tom Lennon
Okay. So the waitress at one point says, I'm here or tonight I want to get laid. Relayed and parlayed.
June Diane Raphael
That's the waitress and she's the best performance in the film.
Tom Lennon
She's amazing. She delivers that line.
June Diane Raphael
So laid, relayed and parlayed.
Adam Pally
I don't know if you guys have watched True Detective. I won't give you any spoilers, but when in the final episode when they go to that guy's house and he's all the videotapes, that's what this bar looks like. But like as a bar, like that house and those things as a bar.
John Gabrus
It'S the kind of place where the David Pamer underling guy says to Kurt Fuller, these people would cheer at a hanging. And Kurt Fuller goes, exactly. That's the beauty.
June Diane Raphael
That's exactly what I want.
Adam Pally
The bathroom is called the VD room.
June Diane Raphael
And there's a. There's a loose pitbull in it.
Adam Pally
There's a pit bull. The bathroom.
June Diane Raphael
My favorite thing that happens in the bathroom. David Pamer and David Pamer light the other guy. They go to the bathroom for 20 minutes. They're like, I really, really need to.
John Gabrus
Take a. I should have gone about it before we came.
Adam Pally
By the way, they're journey to that bathroom is. It is epic.
June Diane Raphael
And then here it becomes like a Dogma movie where they cut nothing out. Out. They're just like, follow them for natural lighting. Natural lighting.
John Gabrus
It's a real dog.
Adam Pally
They walk by a guy pissing in the hallway.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And then the hillbilly dude, they're like, these are the stupidest people in the world. Hillbilly busts out of the stall.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
They're both peeing in troughs. And he.
John Gabrus
Hold on, hold on.
Adam Pally
Paul.
June Diane Raphael
Do it, do it.
Adam Pally
It's amazing, you guys.
June Diane Raphael
You're David Pamer. You're the other guy.
John Gabrus
These tail bellies. This is the worst. These people are Trash.
Adam Pally
And they're so.
John Gabrus
That was stupid, too.
June Diane Raphael
What did he say?
Adam Pally
What? Pulls them away, puts his head up to their dicks, examines them for a long time.
John Gabrus
Yep.
June Diane Raphael
Y' all ain't worth it.
Adam Pally
Wait, he also.
John Gabrus
He also says they have little dick.
June Diane Raphael
Tiny dick, teeny weeny.
John Gabrus
Teeny weeny.
June Diane Raphael
I believe he actually says teeny weenies. And then y' all ain't worth it. But his face is, like, in there.
Adam Pally
What makes that scene even better?
John Gabrus
Because here's the thing. You don't need to get that close to a dick to know how big it is.
Adam Pally
Here is the thing.
June Diane Raphael
I've ever seen in a film.
Adam Pally
He is needed. Nearsighted. And he. That's part of his character.
Tom Lennon
He can't afford glasses. You guys, what.
Adam Pally
What I love about that scene, though, is he also just came from taking a massive. Because he.
June Diane Raphael
Right next to a pit bull.
Adam Pally
Yeah. He busts down that door.
John Gabrus
So first. First, there's a huge sound.
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah.
John Gabrus
That's what interrupts them. They're talking trash. And then they hear like, guys, by.
June Diane Raphael
The way, we're about 10 minutes into this movie.
Adam Pally
Oh, this is no joke. I'm looking at it.
John Gabrus
No joke.
Adam Pally
Oh, this is literally scene nine.
John Gabrus
Be the whole night.
Tom Lennon
We don't have enough time.
John Gabrus
We gotta speed through this, guys. All right.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Adam Pally
We haven't even got the Zeus. So basically, as we said. So Kurt Fuller. Kurt Fuller gets the idea. And this is where another great name comes in. Just like, World Television Network Sports for Kids.
John Gabrus
Oh, oh.
Adam Pally
Battle of the Tough Guys. Battle of the Tough Guys.
June Diane Raphael
We'll do a show. We'll call it Battle of the Tough Guys.
John Gabrus
And they're all like, Lug Nut Johnson. They all have, like, terrible wrestling names. And they all look like completely circular men in, like, overalls. They all look like they're from the arm wrestling.
Adam Pally
I was gonna say they're all the people who didn't make the over the top auditions.
John Gabrus
Exactly. And.
Adam Pally
And then, like, there's one guy who's just spraying hairspray all over his face and. But that's tough.
John Gabrus
And all of them, when they cut to all of them, they're like. They're all like the Tasmanian Devil.
June Diane Raphael
While I was watching this in my house twice, I had to go get a Ricola for my own throat for the growl.
John Gabrus
Now, the first broadcast of this, because I can only assume this is going out on television live. The host of it is the head of the network, Kurt Fuller. He is.
June Diane Raphael
Welcome to that Battle of the Tough Guy.
Tom Lennon
And it's also Just set in the bar.
John Gabrus
Yeah. Because that's what it would be like if, like, if like Les Moonves, it was hosted Big Brother. He was like, tonight on Big Brother.
Adam Pally
That's Super Bowl.
Tom Lennon
I don't know if you noticed though, the extras did change for Battle of the Temple.
Adam Pally
Yeah, no, the snorty waitress, like put in a sparkly. Right.
Tom Lennon
And also, I mean, that bar was filled with just vagrants and they. Once they were shooting a television show, they did bring in sort of a fairly normal looking audience, but it also.
Adam Pally
Seemed like it was very. I mean. Well, yeah, so they're doing this battle. It's very kind of poorly choreographed. But this is my question I really want to get to. Which is.
John Gabrus
This is it. This is before. The only one before this. You've had no questions.
Adam Pally
None. Everything was made very clear to me because the plot was very simple.
June Diane Raphael
So now we're on minute 11, they're having.
Adam Pally
They're doing a live television broadcast. People are fighting. I get it. All right. It's like. And then all of a sudden in this bar, it's not a set and.
John Gabrus
There are no cameras that I see.
June Diane Raphael
No, no, no, no.
Adam Pally
They're very small. They're very small.
June Diane Raphael
They don't. They're not in evidence as much as they should be.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. So like, if Christopher Nolan had made it, you would see them more.
John Gabrus
Yeah. I wish Christopher Nolan would remake this movie.
Adam Pally
It would be a challenge. Tiny Zeus Lester in that Batman movie too.
John Gabrus
Oh, Christian Bale.
Adam Pally
Amazing. But he was so. They worked with both.
John Gabrus
Oh. Oh, my God.
Adam Pally
Cuz he was on the boat. Tiny Zeus Lester is on the boat in Batman with the Joker.
June Diane Raphael
Holy.
Adam Pally
So.
John Gabrus
Oh, I wish we had him here.
Adam Pally
I worked with him on NTSF and he was tiny. Amazing. Tiny was amazing. Yeah. Got the set, said, I need Taco Bell. Now we got him. Taco Bell.
June Diane Raphael
I feel that every second of my life. I just don't say it.
Adam Pally
If you look like tiny, you can request it and people will go running. Oh, yeah. Two PAs going to the quickest.
Avril Haley
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Adam Pally
All right, so this is the part I don't understand. So it's in a ball and it seems to me like Zeus cuts an entire wall out.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. Because he also has superpowers that have never been explained.
Adam Pally
Kicks down a wall, like a structural wall. It wasn't like an entrance. I don't understand like what that was. And if it was planned. I don't think it was planned because Kurt Fuller was like, oh, who's this guy?
June Diane Raphael
He has all the powers he has the powers of magneto.
Tom Lennon
No, that's because I did wonder, where did he come from?
John Gabrus
Yes, yes.
Adam Pally
Well, from jail.
June Diane Raphael
That's a great question. And what was he. Was he told, like, go cut down the wall and there's guys fighting on the other side. What the fuck happened?
Adam Pally
Well, I guess he heard about the hundred thousand dollars and he wanted it tax free.
Tom Lennon
Tax free. Tax free.
Adam Pally
He burst down the wall. He burst down that wall. He's like.
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Adam Pally
WWF nerds, I might be getting my facts wrong, but I pretty sure this is the truth.
Avril Haley
There's a certain point in Hulk's career.
Adam Pally
Where he was accused of being racist.
June Diane Raphael
And it's called this movie.
Adam Pally
And I believe that scene in that that place was to show no, I am a defender of black people.
June Diane Raphael
Have to be black. It bummed me out so bad. I was like, come on, make man. They could be skeevy white tweakers. No, it was just like the class. He's like, I'm going to throw pies at these black guys.
Adam Pally
He throws there, by the way, too many pies in that restaurant for him to throw. They were like, it's like someone lined up 40 pies. Somebody must like all the pieces.
June Diane Raphael
The robbery would not have cost them as much as the pie loss.
John Gabrus
This scene felt to me as if it was written written for a Dukes of Hazzard episode. And then the writer was like, it's not gonna work so I'll save it. And then later was like, wait, I'll put it in this movie.
June Diane Raphael
Hulk, I just want to say there was $30 in the register and those pies were worth 110. Not to be a dick, but hey.
Adam Pally
Did I tell you about my charity.
John Gabrus
Shaka There's a song that's playing and you hear the lyrics for a brief second we. Which is I got ketchup on my blue jeans. That's the soundtrack to the soul food restaurant scene. And then the robbers come in and then it's pie fight.
Adam Pally
Oh, my God. I just remember, just so. Just as we're barreling through this movie.
John Gabrus
We are not barreling through this movie.
Tom Lennon
We're not at all.
June Diane Raphael
Push the 10 o' clock show till 11 a couple. It's most of the same people, right? Yeah, we'll just add an hour. It'll be fine.
Tom Lennon
The scene before this, that's at the conference room when they're discussing how Battle of the Tough Guys went and what the numbers are.
June Diane Raphael
I don't care what. I don't care what people said. We got the biggest numbers ever.
Tom Lennon
One of Kurt Fuller's underlings gets a video camera.
Adam Pally
This is my favorite part. This is my favorite part.
Tom Lennon
Okay, so that's a birthday present.
Adam Pally
Well, yeah. The most sloppy exposition comes from.
June Diane Raphael
It is amazing.
John Gabrus
Do you have this?
Adam Pally
I don't. I wish I had. This scene should have. Okay, so it's coming.
June Diane Raphael
Push ups is coming, bro. Push ups where you can see into Hulk.
John Gabrus
We're not going to talk about jerking off. Push ups.
Adam Pally
You've lost your coming.
June Diane Raphael
Hulk Hogan watched the dailies. He said, you can see up my butthole. I love it. Print it. Check it.
Tom Lennon
But now, in that scene, that guy is filming a television.
John Gabrus
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
It's a present I got for my birthday.
Adam Pally
Literally, David Paper's like, hey, are you enjoying the birthday gift that you just got? And the guy says, do you know, do I have the line? I have the line if you don't.
June Diane Raphael
The guy wrote the word.
Adam Pally
Video is my life. Video is my life.
John Gabrus
Then what does Kurt Fuller says?
June Diane Raphael
Kurt Fuller says.
John Gabrus
He gave me an idea, despite all.
June Diane Raphael
Of your shortcomings, Mr. Micklepants. But I don't know, the idea is unrelated in any way to him standing there with a video.
Adam Pally
Well, the idea is that the rapist. No, the brainwashed.
June Diane Raphael
The idea is let's make a Manchurian Candidate.
Adam Pally
Yes, exactly. They they.
June Diane Raphael
This movie basically now becomes a. A remake of the Manchurian Candidate where you can see throbbing dick pulses at every point.
Adam Pally
Well, this becomes my thing. Like, Zeus is a big fighter and they go. The battle of Tough guys takes place in like a steel mill at one point with a guy having a giant wrench and Zeus just destroys him. As a sport, as the commentator says, this line, which I wrote down as well, it's just an all out brawl. And the guy goes, never in the history of sport have I seen such incredible competition. There's a man wielding a giant like tire iron and another. Another man shoving his head into like steel vats.
Tom Lennon
But here's the crazy thing about him getting the idea that way. He's. What's happening in the scene that spurs this idea is that guy's filming a television.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. Of a show that he produces.
Tom Lennon
Of a show that he produces.
June Diane Raphael
Like I just, I'm becoming kind of shutterbug.
Tom Lennon
You would think that Kurt Fuller would have just gotten the idea by being a network television. Television executive staring at.
Adam Pally
Exactly.
John Gabrus
You're looking all day. Because he's also in his mind, he's like, oh, I can use this camera to make tapes for Zeus. Or I could use all of the cameras at my disposal as the head of a television network to do the same. Like, why does it take this little camera.
Adam Pally
Despite all your shortcomings, this now we got. This is where we're gonna have to unpack the majority of this. The love scene, the hotel scene. Okay, so hands down amazing.
John Gabrus
Joan Severance and Rip go on an overnight.
June Diane Raphael
But it's basically like it happened one night sort of. They put up the.
John Gabrus
Yep.
June Diane Raphael
They close off the room a little bit. They're like, well, blame your management for booking us one room. And then she's in the bathroom. Here's what drives me crazy. She's brushing. She's stripped down her bra. And for some reason the sexiest grandma panties in the.
Tom Lennon
I love that outfit.
John Gabrus
It was like I. I said literally fatten bloomers.
June Diane Raphael
I have, I have pulled up to her rib cage.
Tom Lennon
They look great.
Adam Pally
Wait, you have to call them panties. It's like they're just a really short mini skirt.
June Diane Raphael
Cuz I think, I think Hulster saw her in regular panties and said it's a family affair.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Hey, this is supposed to be a family affair. Oh, you have the whole scene.
Adam Pally
I have the whole scene.
John Gabrus
Let's watch it. Let's all shut up.
June Diane Raphael
Everybody shut up for a second.
John Gabrus
All of your dreams are coming true. Audience.
Adam Pally
It is amazing. Here we go.
John Gabrus
I want to wear tie dye in this.
June Diane Raphael
Brother.
Adam Pally
Here she comes.
Tom Lennon
Can you get the lights?
Adam Pally
You got it. Like you're to trying accommodations.
John Gabrus
Do I have a choice?
June Diane Raphael
It gets brighter. It gets brighter, brighter. Why does it get brighter?
John Gabrus
What is she wearing?
Adam Pally
Look at that outfit.
Tom Lennon
And as long as you stay on your side of the bed, everything will be fine.
Adam Pally
And that it. And then we have another sequence.
June Diane Raphael
I have another sequence coming Right away, cuz. Is this the. Is this the.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabrus
Okay. Why don't you go straight into what's next?
Adam Pally
I'm going to. So they. They're getting into bed and she starts to hear a noise. And here we go. Your eye. This is amazing.
John Gabrus
I like that. She tries to listen more.
June Diane Raphael
What is with those panties?
Adam Pally
Don't wait up for me.
John Gabrus
Yeah. Sexy saxophone playing on this song.
Adam Pally
I didn't know what she was looking at when she first.
John Gabrus
I don't know.
Adam Pally
It's his heels.
June Diane Raphael
It's both his heels. But are they supposed to be a butt?
John Gabrus
I genuinely was confused by what part of his body that was. I.
June Diane Raphael
It was very hard straight up for me.
Tom Lennon
Now I wondering. By the way, everything.
June Diane Raphael
Everything you hear someone say is the best take.
Adam Pally
I just.
Tom Lennon
Oh, no.
Adam Pally
Pull up a quick pick for the audience. Just. That was going to be the original poster. Just a shock in his ass.
Tom Lennon
Did she book them in in one hotel room on purpose?
Adam Pally
No, no. That's what revealed that her office messed up. The. The bad guy was like. She's like. And I. You booked us in one hotel room?
John Gabrus
Wait, can I ask a question? Lucy legit.
June Diane Raphael
How.
John Gabrus
What is the relationship between her and Kurt Fuller?
Tom Lennon
That's what I. He says at one point.
John Gabrus
Put her in place at this other network.
Tom Lennon
Yes, he has, Jason.
June Diane Raphael
She says she's basically. It's basically the story of Matahari Agency.
John Gabrus
What agent? What do you mean? Got it from an agency.
Tom Lennon
I don't know.
John Gabrus
To be an. A TV executive.
Tom Lennon
That's correct.
John Gabrus
What are you talking about? Oh, hey, I got this. You're. You're. You're going to be a model. You're a model. You're beautiful. Okay, I need you to go in and seduce Rip, okay? You're going to be a network executive.
Adam Pally
Because she's already a touring agent.
June Diane Raphael
June, everybody, quick question. They fly on a jet to go to that soul food restaurant to stay in that one hotel room. Then they. That's it.
Tom Lennon
That's a.
June Diane Raphael
There is no explanation. They're literally like.
Adam Pally
Like.
June Diane Raphael
They're literally like want, right? They get on a jet.
John Gabrus
A jet.
June Diane Raphael
Go to a soul food restaurant with a PI.
John Gabrus
Prop plane. Oh, hey, airplane guy, shut the up.
Adam Pally
Most of our live audience are aviation experts, but I think at the end he's going to explain.
June Diane Raphael
Okay, so it's a prop plane. They take a prop plane.
John Gabrus
Where is Malaysian Flight 320?
June Diane Raphael
But by the way, there's literally. There's never any. Any explanation of why they're going to this far away, terrible restaurant. The End.
John Gabrus
He slaps her as well. This is another. This is another scene where Joan Severance is confronted by Kurt Fuller. He's pissed at her that she didn't bone rip. And he slaps her across the face in front of Pamer and Pamer Jr. And they do nothing. Everybody's like, we're cool with this.
Adam Pally
Well, they saw him break that globe in the beginning.
Tom Lennon
I should have brought this up when we were talking about her panties. I don't think that upon reflection that. I just want you guys to understand those weren't underwear that she was wearing underneath her clothes.
John Gabrus
They must be.
June Diane Raphael
Don't be an apologist.
Tom Lennon
No, they're not.
June Diane Raphael
Severance, underpants, apologist.
Tom Lennon
No, they're not.
Adam Pally
Wait a second.
John Gabrus
What do you mean?
Adam Pally
That's underpants?
June Diane Raphael
They were dress ups.
Tom Lennon
They were nighttime attire.
John Gabrus
You don't wear a bra to bed like that sometimes. Do you think Joan Severance knew she was supposed to seduce Hulk? Or do you think Kurt Fuller was just.
Tom Lennon
Ooh, that's a toughie.
June Diane Raphael
Can I ask a question that I thought was really insane? We intercut. They're in a motel room and the Hulkster is out putting on the cheesecake shorts. And Joan's Severance is in her bra and they're listening to each other. And she starts brushing her teeth in the bathroom. And he starts brushing his teeth in the hotel room where there is no source of water for a long time in the inner cut. And she's by a sink, and he's not by any source of water brushing his teeth.
Adam Pally
And his plan was to hold it, like, because he's like. Who's holding it in his mouth waiting for her to leave the bathroom, and then he has to go like he swallows it. Yeah.
John Gabrus
Oh, wait. I think the reason they did this trip. Oh, no, forget it. Disregard. No, I'm wrong.
June Diane Raphael
But why did. There's no reason they go.
Tom Lennon
There's no reason why they did the.
June Diane Raphael
Trick except to throw pies at some.
John Gabrus
I thought the trip was for the charity event, but it wasn't.
Tom Lennon
No, no, it wasn't for the charity event.
Adam Pally
Long story short, Zeus paralyzes Hulk's brother.
June Diane Raphael
Whose. Whose name is Randy. And in any other movie, Randy would be the villain. Yes, like, as soon as you see Randy, he's like the sweep the leg guy.
Adam Pally
Yeah, but in this movie, he's the.
June Diane Raphael
Guy you love so much.
Adam Pally
And Hulk does some serious acting and breaks out in full on tears when he sees his brother paralyzed. At which point I go, you know what would be great? If they remade this exact script with Ryan Gosling. I think that it's like. Like, you see this guy, like he's fighting. He doesn't want to get involved in this, and then he gets pulled in. It would be great. I would love to see him.
John Gabrus
We have so many good ideas for how to redo this movie.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So his brother is paralyzed.
John Gabrus
This is. We have skipped over the rapist, but I think we've covered it pretty much.
June Diane Raphael
No, no, no, no, no. Let's. We can't skip over that.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
So Joan Severance fails them. The Hulkster shows up on a motorcycle that's never been introduced before. Scoops up the guy. The guy's about to like, pulls her off. So we see her bra again, which feels like it was a note, and then scoops him up on the front of the motorcycle and drives him into like a fucking garbage dumper. Basically kills the guy.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Casual murder happening everywhere.
Tom Lennon
Everywhere.
Adam Pally
And then he runs over to Joan Severance and goes, God, I hate it when you're hurt.
John Gabrus
Wait, wait, He. He says, you're right. God, I hate it when you're hurt, period. Or scared, period. And she says, I know.
Adam Pally
This is the first time he ever saw her hurt and. Or scared, by the way.
Tom Lennon
A lot of their serious conversations are blocked and staged on the ground.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
Tom Lennon
So this one and then before this one before, when she comes out of that conference with what's his face, they have a full conversation where she reveals herself and what she's done on the floor of Hulk's oh yeah, mansion.
Adam Pally
And they just start kissing. And they've never kissed before. And it's not even that romantic. They kiss like a couple that's been going out for a couple years. It's very anti climatic.
John Gabrus
Their first kiss. Their first kiss is very anti climatic.
June Diane Raphael
It's a family affair.
Adam Pally
I was like, did I miss when they became a couple at four years.
Tom Lennon
Have passed, and I'm really sorry to.
John Gabrus
Go back to this apathy of they don't care about each other anymore. Almost.
Tom Lennon
Now I'm thinking that Kurt Fuller's character must have owned the other network.
John Gabrus
What now?
June Diane Raphael
Wow.
Tom Lennon
Guys, in what world could he.
June Diane Raphael
This is turning into.
Tom Lennon
How could he place this?
June Diane Raphael
We're on the other side of the looking glass now.
Tom Lennon
How could he place this random woman in that position?
John Gabrus
That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. But if he owned the other neighborhood network, he wouldn't need.
Adam Pally
He.
June Diane Raphael
He has rape and murder so many.
John Gabrus
People be on the network. He doesn't need to hire for a TV show. He doesn't need Battle of the Toughest.
Tom Lennon
I don't have all the answers, but how else would he have gotten her in that post?
John Gabrus
I have no idea. Especially if she was like, a model from a service.
Adam Pally
But.
June Diane Raphael
But Kurt. Kurt Fuller, basically, everything he does in this movie to get a wrestling TV is a hundred times more fucked up than anything the Joker would do.
John Gabrus
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
And a hundred times like, the Joker would never do that.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
That's too fucking crazy.
Adam Pally
He has no moral compass. No, it is because he got his fucking.
June Diane Raphael
Just want to watch the world burn.
Tom Lennon
I know, I know. I'm jumping ahead now, but I do think we have to at this point.
Adam Pally
We do.
June Diane Raphael
We do.
Adam Pally
We do.
Tom Lennon
The crazy thing about Kurt Fuller's character is that when that fight is happening at the very end between Zeus and Rip.
Adam Pally
Can I just add one thing?
Tom Lennon
Go ahead, go ahead.
Adam Pally
So Hulk Hogan finally says, right, I'll fight Zeus. My brother's paralyzed.
June Diane Raphael
Puts. What is it? Randy? Randy in a traction. He's basically dead.
Adam Pally
Yeah, he can't. He can't get up.
John Gabrus
Randy is the kid brother of Hulk. Hulk.
Adam Pally
So Zeus then goes on a tear of training with the Manchurian tape. Can the matur candidate tape. He's like, training really hard. Hulk is just helping rehabilitate his brother. No training in the training montage.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, Zeus is like any good fighting trainer will tell you the best thing to do is punch and blow up cinder blocks.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Because it gets you. It gets you just your whole body ready. You just want to hit the cinder blocks as hard as you can.
Adam Pally
Zeus has been shown great for the bones in your hands to be the most powerful man of all time. Like, there is no rhyme or reason. The only backstory we get on Zeus is I used to train him. He went to prison because he killed somebody. Now he's out. Like, we don't know what happened to that. But he is all powerful. The Hulk doesn't train. It's like a Rocky movie with no training.
John Gabrus
Hulk, I will say this, and this is what I couldn't figure out is.
June Diane Raphael
His training is stopping rapes with a motorcycle.
Tom Lennon
Yeah. And what I actually thought that that was an interesting choice because he doesn't train at all. The fact that he doesn't train and that it's. It's sort of mental training of him helping his brother, which will come back later on when he sees him and has to really call on. On those emotions.
June Diane Raphael
I think it's unfair how kind you just were to this film.
Tom Lennon
I thought it was an interesting choice.
June Diane Raphael
You just actually made this sound like a noble work of art.
John Gabrus
Don't you feel like. Yes, Zeus paralyzed Randy, but traction. Yes. Zeus tractioned Randy, but. And Hulk wants revenge. Yes. But by going on Battle of the Tough Guys to fight Zeus isn't Hulk and a breaking his contract with his network.
Tom Lennon
That's a good point.
June Diane Raphael
His word is not his bond.
John Gabrus
Exactly what he wants.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
John Gabrus
The number one show and higher ratings than ever before. This gets me crazy right into his hand.
June Diane Raphael
Because when. Spoiler alert, when Rip starts to beat the out of Zeus, Kurt Fuller rushes over to the transmission and starts smashing the reel to reel that's broadcasting.
Tom Lennon
This is. This is what makes no sense. Because from the beginning, all Kurt Fuller wanted was for Rip to be on the network.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
The second he is, he smashes up the reel to reel.
Adam Pally
Because his thought is if he beats Zeus, then no one will tune in next week for Battle of the Tough Guys. So he needs to keep the ambiguity going.
June Diane Raphael
I felt bad because you can see Kurt Fuller's on the other side of the glass while Tiny Lister and the Hulkster are fighting for obviously four or five days of coverage. And have you ever been in the background of a scene where they're just like. Just keep screaming, brother. Kurt Fuller's screaming for what must have been five days straight.
Adam Pally
I will also say about this fight. The whole movie is like wrestling is. Even though it's real in this movie, it's two staged.
Avril Haley
We wanna go and get the real.
Adam Pally
Tough guys in the bars in the steel mills. In all these. Like in the aircraft carrier factory, whatever it is. But then the final fight is the most. It was like the shittiest version of the WWF.
John Gabrus
All of it.
Adam Pally
Like it's on the Morton Downey Jr talk show set.
John Gabrus
It's worse than the first fight. Like the first fight. Rip's home network. Yeah. Wrestling broadcast is still far and away the most glossy, classiest fight. It's still a piece of garbage for some reason.
June Diane Raphael
All of the turnbuckles are Jiffy Pop things. It's the most up looking.
Adam Pally
And this is what I wanted to talk about this part. So at the beginning of the match, it's no holds bar, Jun. No holds bar.
June Diane Raphael
Any hold you want to make, you can do it.
Adam Pally
And at the beginning they go. The ref is now checking the turnbuckles. Why they let people in with lug wrenches. They fought in steel mills. They have no rules. Why do you have to check the turnbuckles?
June Diane Raphael
It is weird they make that announcement.
Adam Pally
Yeah. They make the announcement. This is the only. No rules. We got to make sure everything's up to par.
Tom Lennon
I, I kind of. It felt like that this last, this last fight though was not a part of Battle of the Tough Guys.
John Gabrus
What now?
June Diane Raphael
No, no. They introduced it as Battle of Tough Guys. Not only that, there's like the, the st. The dumb announcer who would be me if they made it now comes out and is like, welcome to the Battle of the Tough Guys. Zeus punches him out of the ring for no reason whatsoever.
Tom Lennon
That's true.
June Diane Raphael
That's what we call friendly fire, by the way.
Adam Pally
How do they even. Like, that was my, my whole thought was how do they even communicate with Zeus throughout this whole movie? So the fight tomorrow is that you.
June Diane Raphael
Gotta show up like a half hour early. Do you want to put oil all over or do you want to just go? Or do you want to eat something or you want to just be ready to go?
Adam Pally
And then also if I was this trainer, and I know he doesn't have trainers, but I'd say, Zeus, stop celebrating and just make sure the guy that you just knocked down is. Because Zeus's Achilles heel is that is just celebrating with his back turned to the person he has just knocked down. The whole movie is just based on Hulk is going, ripping his leg. Oh.
John Gabrus
It's also this fight takes place in a venue that over the course of the fight is completely demolished. Like everything. The ring is demolished, the seat, some reason.
June Diane Raphael
All of the extras are in prom dresses.
John Gabrus
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
They're just like whatever you are to prom. I swear to God, we're on day 40. Just wear your prom dress and be here at 5:45.
Adam Pally
Pretty in Pink was shooting across the hall. Just come on over. Just. By the way, this is my last words on earth.
June Diane Raphael
Show up at 5:45.
John Gabrus
I would not be surprised if all of this movie was shot like in and around like WWF headquarters in Connecticut.
Adam Pally
Oh, of course.
John Gabrus
You know what I mean. Like, if it was all just like random spaces that they owned. Because it looks terrible.
Tom Lennon
Yeah. Did anyone else notice that Joan Severance is reading a book in the montage where Randy's getting rehabilitated? She's sitting in the hospital right when he first flutters his eyes open. And I believe she's sort of covering it, but I believe the book title is Men who Can Love. Did anyone else see it?
John Gabrus
I so hope that's true. It's just a list of men's names.
Tom Lennon
It's definitely a self help book. It's not a novel.
John Gabrus
Steve Johansson, Peter Wagner, Michael Richards. Michael Richards. Kramer from Seinfeld.
Adam Pally
Apparently, a really funny thing that happened was to promote this movie, they decided to bring Tiny Lister into the wwf. But he was never a wrestler and not very good. And he only did three matches. And then they just said, no, no, you can't fight anymore. Because Zeus was very upset because, spoiler alert, he loses. Loses at the end of this movie. He does not.
Tom Lennon
Well, he. He dies.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, no, no.
Adam Pally
That was casual murder, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
That's the other great thing. So he kills Zeus, it seems like. Throws him through the stage. Everybody's pretty excited about that because this is basically. This whole movie is like a lynching, as far as I can tell. Then everyone. Women, children, children. Kurt Fuller's in the booth. He's ripped up the fucking reel to reel that broadcasts television.
Adam Pally
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
And the wires explode and, like, the Hulkster throws a chair through the window and. And everything explodes. Kurt Fuller, like, is electrocuted violently. To a huge crowd of children and women, they watch an adult man burned alive by electricity.
John Gabrus
They're must be one of horror, right?
June Diane Raphael
Nope. Hulkster turns around and goes.
Adam Pally
He shoots.
John Gabrus
Why do we care?
June Diane Raphael
Remember how we all just watched that? Adult man burned alive by electricity. What happened was it cooks our system, which is basically electrical.
Adam Pally
But what I love about it, too, is, like, it's just a cheat because they can't make Hulk kill a good guy. Like, I feel like it was like he couldn't do it. Like, but he.
June Diane Raphael
He kills him.
Adam Pally
Oh, he kills him.
John Gabrus
No, that man dead. Straight up. Oh, dead. At the end of this movie, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
So is Zeus.
Tom Lennon
Thank you.
John Gabrus
I don't know what Zeus is.
June Diane Raphael
Zeus is dead. He throws him 30ft into a hole.
Tom Lennon
In the ground, and he doesn't move. There's no shot of Zeus, like, twitching. He is dead.
Adam Pally
You guys. You guys want to take a guess on how much money this movie cost to make? Make?
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
$4 million.
Adam Pally
Anything?
John Gabrus
What? Did you say four?
June Diane Raphael
I said four.
Tom Lennon
I say, like, seven.
John Gabrus
25.
Adam Pally
It was $8 million on opening weekend. It made $5 million. Came in number two to Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade.
John Gabrus
Wow. And.
Adam Pally
And total growth, 16 million. So it was. Wow.
June Diane Raphael
Way better than many of mine. I've got 15 under that.
Adam Pally
That's not bad. And the lot line was no ring, no ref, no rules. However, there are True.
June Diane Raphael
Not true. Not true.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
There's every one of those things in every battle.
Adam Pally
But okay, yeah, I want to run out. I want to run out to the audience. There are. There are no Real Amazon five star reviews. They're all snarky. So I'd rather go to you guys and get from you guys some questions while we have a little bit. Let's set the house lights up. What are your questions about? No holds barred. Oh, my gosh. We have somebody that has something. Oh, my gosh. We got baby onesies over here. This is amazing. Look at this. Oh, this is hilarious. This is. How'd this get made? Baby onesie. And then Jason, give me your baby baby onesie. These are amazing. Thank you guys so much. Our baby will wear Jason Manduka's fat at all points. All right, I went down the wrong side. Thank you guys so much. All right, here we go. Okay, your question. I'm gonna go to you right here. Your name and your question.
Tom Lennon
My name is Marianne, and my question is at the restaurant scene, there's this whole interaction between the waitress.
June Diane Raphael
The waitress and Rip, and it's like.
Tom Lennon
She'S this really broad, black, sassy woman stereotype. And she's like, telling the woman, samantha, whatever. Oh, you better keep him. He's a keeper.
June Diane Raphael
If I wasn't married, I'd get on.
Tom Lennon
That again or something. And, like, it's just the weirdest interaction. It's probably because.
John Gabrus
No, Rip totally fucked that waitress. Yeah, 100%.
Tom Lennon
And I think. I think, you know, they fucked for days. There's a question about why the point of that trip. All right, this is Ex girlfriend.
Adam Pally
All right, this is amazing. We have a question that has a very big. It's a lot. This is like a. Like a school project going here. Okay.
June Diane Raphael
It's like a chart. It's like a flowchart.
Adam Pally
Okay, here we go. Explain your flowchart. What's your name?
June Diane Raphael
And what's your. I feel like Ferrigno.
John Gabrus
My name is Kyle, and I want to be the first visual presenter for a question.
Adam Pally
Great. So it's good for the audio medium of podcasting in keeping with your.
John Gabrus
So Rocky in Rocky iii, fights Thunder.
Adam Pally
Lips, who is essentially Hulk Hogan, who is Rip.
John Gabrus
And it comes to a draw.
June Diane Raphael
Let's pick this up a little bit.
Adam Pally
Okay?
John Gabrus
Rocky then fights Drago, and Rocky ends the Cold War. That way, if Rip can beat Tiny Lister and Ice Cube can beat Tiny Lister, can Ice Cube then end the Cold War, or more importantly, end the crisis in Crimea?
Adam Pally
It's amazing. It was a very well thought out story, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
It's also. It's also provably true. Yes.
Adam Pally
Well, just. Just. Can someone just unravel that as a.
June Diane Raphael
President follows me on Twitter. Let's pitch this.
Adam Pally
That's a. Everyone can take a look at. Look at that. All right, let's see. What's your question?
June Diane Raphael
Can you guys talk about the scene when.
Adam Pally
Oh, Jesse. Hi.
June Diane Raphael
Can you guys talk about the scene when he first meets Sam and while she's pitching ideas. Sorry, one more time. I. I missed it There a was big laugh in the middle of your thing. So when he first meets Sam and he.
Adam Pally
She's pitching all these things to him.
June Diane Raphael
Why don't you do this? What about more of this? What if my tour dates are lined up more with my craziest me eyes and he starts biting his thumb and.
Adam Pally
He'S going crazy and she's just talking.
June Diane Raphael
About whatever, and that's all the scene is.
Tom Lennon
But then this is the weird thing about the scene because he's staring at her very lustfully for a while, but then when she gets really close to him, he just stares off at the table like, it's so weird.
John Gabrus
I'm gonna fuck you. I'm shy. And then.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
And then she says, dinner tonight, Dressy. Ask me about my charity.
Adam Pally
Here we go. Come here. Your name, Your wrestling name and your question. Here we go.
Tom Lennon
Oh, my name is Kara. My wrestling name would be Margaret Throttle.
Adam Pally
And.
Tom Lennon
There'S a point, I think, that is vital to make that Randy is played by Mark Pellegrino in this movie, who grows up to be Jacob from Lost.
John Gabrus
Oh, wow.
June Diane Raphael
Good point.
Adam Pally
I noticed that too. Yeah.
Tom Lennon
So important. But I also had a question about the banging of Hulk and Joan Severance. Do we think that they actually filmed a sex scene that was so terrible it had to be cut from the movie? And that's why they go automatically to, like, the making out. Like they've always.
Adam Pally
I feel like it might be so clean. Right.
June Diane Raphael
I think the Hulkster was like, it's a family of affair.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabrus
Well, I.
June Diane Raphael
As much as I would love to be four and a half inches into, you.
Adam Pally
Shouldn'T eat that.
John Gabrus
All of something semi, semi hard.
June Diane Raphael
Due to a combination of a strange cocktail that's pulsing through my body right now. I'm not sure if you can see my heartbeat. I am through my penis. But you can.
Tom Lennon
I am curious about Hulk's, well, RIP sleeping habits. Because in that scene, it seems like she's been asleep for a while.
June Diane Raphael
And he does push ups at the rate of 1000aminute.
John Gabrus
Oh, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
But also, that's a thousand a minute.
Adam Pally
It's a little rude to be doing that in a shared bed. Right? Are we. We all agree to that.
Tom Lennon
Yeah.
John Gabrus
Oh, yeah. Very rude. Very rude.
June Diane Raphael
Your feet could also be on the, on the desk, Rip. Or any chair. Any. Anything.
Adam Pally
All right, your question, your name, your wrestler name. Here you go.
Tom Lennon
My name is Danielle. My wrestling name will be Hell on Wheels.
John Gabrus
And okay, so when that's a roller derby name.
Tom Lennon
So Zeus beats up. I mean, essentially puts his brother in a coma. Like why don't they call Traction Traction? Like why, why isn't Zeus being arrested for that?
Adam Pally
Well, I guess as long as I think that as long as you're around Zeus, you, You're gonna get hurt.
John Gabrus
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Everyone is proven. If you get within arm's reach, he will hurt you, face plant you or break your back. Obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but now it is time for a second opinion.
John Gabrus
Second opinions from top to bottom. Crazy movies are fun.
Tom Lennon
Then I not your first. But they're gonna be a second.
Adam Pally
From the depths of Amazon they come. Second opinions for everyone. Second opinions. These are five star reviews on Amazon. And now like I said, I think a lot of them are facetious. But these are the least facetious or the best facetious I could find. This one is. What's that smell? This Hulk Hogan classic tells. This hulking classic tells the story of Jesus Christ's fight against the Romans in a modern day battle. Instead of the battlefield taking place in the days of old, our hero is getting crucified. The battle is in a bar and Hulk gets Zeusified. The creator may have rested on the seventh day, but on the eighth day he. He made no holds barred. Five stars by the way.
June Diane Raphael
What if Zeus is Zeus?
Adam Pally
That actually would be. I would actually.
John Gabrus
That whole movie would open up down.
June Diane Raphael
From Mount Olympus and Athena bursts out of his forehead.
Adam Pally
This is a good one. And this is the one that I think could be real. I found the relationship between Rip and Joan Severance. I love that Joan Severance. Rip and Joan Severance.
June Diane Raphael
She has known it lady person who.
Adam Pally
Called her Sam to be morally satisfying. They are separated by a sheet when they share a hotel room. And they provide an uplifting example for proper premarital behavior.
June Diane Raphael
Especially in panty size.
Adam Pally
The moral choices Rip faces mirrors our own struggles. The ending will leave you cheering if not weeping at the heroism of Hulk Hogan. I initially hated the use of violence to drive home the moral message of good triumphing over corporate evil. But since this is a wrestling and the violence in the movie is a good example of why wrestling is not fake. It fits into the story. What? It fits into the story. As long as you can explain to Your children that Rip was only using violence to beat the bad guys because they backed him into a corner and he had no other choice. Unless it's for God or country, that kind of violence should not be tried by anyone. I recommend this movie for kids and parents alike. You will be entertained and uplifted, especially.
June Diane Raphael
When Kurt Fuller gets electrocuted in front of your eyes.
Adam Pally
Is there anything that you guys that we missed we can hit on in these last minutes here?
John Gabrus
This.
Adam Pally
Gary.
June Diane Raphael
What June? Talk more about kids sports for kids, because what happens is there's two children. Greco Roman wrestling in a field.
Tom Lennon
Well, I'm gonna. I'm gonna wager that sports for kids serves inner city kids or.
John Gabrus
It seemed pretty rural.
Tom Lennon
It actually did seem pretty rural.
Adam Pally
It's like fresh air, fun. They take the inner city, fresh air.
June Diane Raphael
Let's take children out to a cornfield and make them wrestle against each other. Today you would go to prison for 50 years.
Adam Pally
Now, can I. Can I just pitch one version of this?
June Diane Raphael
He would never be free of again. You took these children to a field, and then they wrestled each other in.
Adam Pally
Swimsuits, and then they're picked up by their instructor, one in each arm. The. The thing about this that I'll just say to keep in our head, Hulk is at the height of his career. He probably does have a charity for kids. Why not just use the actual name and charity? Because getting that word out there about that.
John Gabrus
Why not use his name?
June Diane Raphael
Brother. Brother. That's a kettle of fish.
Tom Lennon
This is the weird thing about him not using his name, too, is if he's trying to. You would think they would want to promote this idea that the wrestling is real. So if they called him Hulk Hogan and we were able to see him actually fighting these matches, we might buy into that a bit more.
John Gabrus
Absolutely.
June Diane Raphael
100%.
John Gabrus
So it would be a big commercial.
Tom Lennon
Absolutely.
John Gabrus
For wrestling.
Adam Pally
Guys, I just had a thought. Vince McMahon. Or not Vince McMahon, but. But Jesse Body is in this. And. And. And who the other guy. Mean Gene. Is this a world in which Hulk Hogan exists and is not as popular as Rip?
John Gabrus
Wow.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, we're starting to peel the onion. Yeah, we're peeling the onion now.
Adam Pally
So Rip may be like. Yeah, Rip is like, where Hulk wants to go. That's achieved.
John Gabrus
I wonder if.
Adam Pally
Think about it and write the prequel there.
John Gabrus
Is it possible that this movie came out when Hulk Hogan, the character, was a bad guy? Because there was a period in wrestling when Hulk Hogan was very early on.
June Diane Raphael
Very early.
John Gabrus
Oh, that was early. Well, early in the career.
June Diane Raphael
You always come out like that. And then you.
John Gabrus
Because I was thinking, oh, maybe people wouldn't have wanted that if he was a bad guy. They wouldn't have wanted to see Hulk Hogan as the hero.
Adam Pally
I don't know. No, no. He was always the hero. Eat your vitamins. Kiss your mother. Hulk Hogan.
John Gabrus
I know, but there was a period where he went through being a bad, bad guy, too.
Adam Pally
All right, that's hol. That's Hollywood.
John Gabrus
There's got to be a wrestling nerd here, right? Speak up. Tell me. Yeah, too many of you. Shut up now.
Adam Pally
We heard it was later.
June Diane Raphael
Later on, he's like, any rape I see, I'm going to stop with a motorcycle.
Adam Pally
This movie was amazing. Thank you guys all for being here.
John Gabrus
Everybody watch it.
Adam Pally
Definitely watch, right? Definitely watch this movie.
John Gabrus
100% movie.
Adam Pally
Watch it again and again. Tom, you have a child. Would you show this to your child?
June Diane Raphael
Not in a hundred million years.
Adam Pally
That was no holds barred. What an amazing show. Give it up for Tom Lennon. And a big thanks to Earwolf for all the help that they give us for this show and all of our interns.
Avril Haley
For the longest time, I've been giving thanks to Avril Haley.
Adam Pally
That person does not exist. It's actually Avril Haley. I've mispronounced her name so long. I am so sorry to you, but she pulls all of our clips. Thank you to her. Thank you to Nate Kiley, who does all of our research. Thank you to Liana Waldron, who does all of our amazing designs on our Facebook page.
Avril Haley
And Katie Dyer, who runs our social media presence. And of course, Cody Scully, who is.
Adam Pally
The engineer for that Night Live at Largo. Thank you guys all.
Avril Haley
We'll see you next time.
Adam Pally
Bye.
John Gabrus
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Adam Pally
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John Gabrus
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Adam Pally
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John Gabrus
We'll have guests like our friend, actor.
Adam Pally
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Tom Lennon
What does possibility mean to you?
June Diane Raphael
That's a hard question.
John Gabrus
Something that you can strive for.
Tom Lennon
I'm able to do anything I set my mind to. You're confident in yourself and you believe in yourself. Stuff that you could achieve. I feel at Sarah at evening is possible when you're more confident.
John Gabrus
Just shoes are a huge part of that.
June Diane Raphael
They are the most important part of my style.
Tom Lennon
You can like express yourself in the right shoes. Anything is possible. Dsw countless shoes at bragworthy prices.
Adam Pally
Imagine the possibilities.
Date: August 19, 2025
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Special Guest: Thomas Lennon
Recorded Live at Largo, Los Angeles
In this riotous live episode, the HDTGM crew (with guest Thomas Lennon) dive headfirst into the 1989 Hulk Hogan extravaganza "No Holds Barred." They gleefully unpack the bonkers world of 80s wrestling-cinema crossover, complete with villainous TV execs, check-mark eyebrows, crime-filled soul food restaurants, and a parade of truly questionable choices—both on- and off-screen. The panel's irreverent, insightful, and often delightfully R-rated banter makes for a rollicking breakdown of one of wrestling's most infamous film vehicles.
The episode maintains HDTGM’s signature blend of affectionate mockery, wild digressions, and encyclopedic sidebars about 1980s and 90s pop culture. The live audience and Thomas Lennon’s riffing elevate the chaos. Expect R-rated language, nostalgia-laced tangents, and uproarious laughter throughout.
Summary:
The HDTGM team, with Tom Lennon, tears apart and celebrates "No Holds Barred," holding nothing back in a discussion as muscular, unhinged, and entertainingly messy as the movie itself. If you love epicly bad cinema and the joy of friends riffing live, this is a peak episode.
(Skip to timestamps above for favorite scenes or recurring gags; whole-group riffing and live audience energy make this a particularly lively listen!)