Rad LIVE! (Classic)

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – “Rad LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)” in Chicago

Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Date: March 17, 2026
Film Discussed: Rad (1986)

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Main Theme

In this riotously funny live episode, the HDTGM crew dives deep into the BMX cult classic Rad, dissecting everything from 80s bike culture and inexplicable fashion choices to the film's logistical and narrative absurdities. Performing in front of an enthusiastic Chicago crowd, Paul, June, and Jason untangle why Rad endures as both an object of nostalgia and confusion, asking the eternal question: How did this get made?

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Elusive Nature and Cult Status of Rad

• Rad has never received a wide, official release, contributing to its near-mythic status among VHS collectors and 80s enthusiasts.
• Jason: “This movie has been... I’ve been sent gift packages. I’ve been sent T-shirts to do this movie.” (05:16)
• Audience interaction reveals Rad’s passionate fanbase includes cosplayers and collectors of rare memorabilia.

2. BMX: Culture and Personal Connections

• The trio tries to define BMX (“Bicycle Motocross”) and reminisces about their own childhood bike obsessions.
• Paul confesses idolizing BMX gear: “It was quite possibly the most important thing I wanted to own.” (11:46)
• June, less familiar, probes into whether BMX was truly a “thing” or merely Hollywood invention.

3. The (Tragi)comedy of the Film’s Plot and Staging

• Much discussion centers on the “bike dancing” sequences, especially the Town Wide Dance, with both awe and horror expressed at the film’s earnestness.
  • Paul: “I found it very romantic.” (13:53)
  • Jason: “Come for the stunts, leave for the romance… It shows all the stages: falling in love, throwing them in water, getting dry, and then throwing them in water again.” (14:05)
• Junedislikes how adult characters and teens mix in the town’s events, especially the bizarre “ass sliding”—a sewage runoff, not a fun water slide.

4. 80s Fashion & The Twins

• Extended, loving analysis of the villainous BMX twins and their inexplicable jumpsuits.
  • June: “I feel like the 80s was obsessed with twins… there was a cultural obsession and a fetishization of double twins.” (26:37)

5. Race Logic & Character Motivation

• Breakdown of Rad’s racing structure—qualifying heats, “Hell Track,” and the town’s investment in BMX as economic salvation.
  • June: “There were no differences in types of racers. So Crew—was he a good BMX racer?” (36:44)
  • Jason: “I’d argue that he didn’t even show me anything that exciting besides bike dancing.” (37:07)

6. Female Representation and Stunt-Wigging

• June scrutinizes Lori Loughlin’s character being sidelined, with all heroic moments delegated to a male stunt double in a wig during bike scenes.
  • June: “They made no attempt to find a woman who could ride a bicycle.” (41:20)

7. Iconic Scenes Analyzed with Audience

• The legendary bicycle prom dance—“Send Me An Angel”—gets a play-by-play, highlighting its surreal athleticism and overwhelming 80s erotic energy.
  • Paul: “There’s nothing more erotic than this.” (69:20)
  • June: “The bicycle dance was my favorite scene—it still holds up!” (91:03)

8. Plot Holes, Town Politics & The “Cop Turn”

• The hosts debate the cop’s motivations—villain or secret supporter? A heated audience poll ensues.
  • Paul: “These are teenagers on BMX bikes. Their natural enemy is the police.” (46:53)
  • June: “He lays down all the rules… but he sees what’s going on. For the first time, he stands up for what he knows is right.” (47:08)
• The town’s economic logic, fundraising efforts (selling $10k of t-shirts!), and the presence of Talia Shire (thanks to Coppola/Schwartzman family ties) confounds everyone.

9. Budget, Box Office, and 80s Production Weirdness

• The hosts are gobsmacked that Rad had an $11 million budget in 1986, questioning where the money went.
  • Paul: “That’s like $46 million right now!” (64:01)

10. Crowd Q&A & Cosplay

• Audience members ask about character ages, plot discrepancies (e.g., redacted ending credits, why the BMX twins drive the prize Corvette), and dress up as characters.

11. Celebrating the Cult: Second Opinions

• Multiple audience members perform musical “second opinions,” passionately defending Rad and praising its dance scenes and earnestness—many noting they “just love rad.”
  • Jason: “My eyes, too, were opened to the balls out nature of this film, which I also say is rad.” (87:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jason on hometown pride: “The two twins are from my hometown, New York… I was like, yeah, we got twin bad guys.” (32:44)
• June on Lori Loughlin’s stunts: “There was not one woman in all the land that could have done some of her stunts?” (41:20)
• Paul on plot logic: “No, it’s over for us. Take your Illuminatis and get the fuck out of here.” (57:32) (reacting to the crowd’s lack of response)
• Paul pitching a new finale: “If he’s gonna get the girl, he has to win her with his moves. You know, his moves on the bike, on the dance floor.” (37:29)
• Jason on the prize: “Did anyone else find it troubling that the prize was not a bicycle—but a car?” (68:27)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:54 – Jason’s intro; live Chicago audience energy
• 06:41 – June’s viewing experience; film’s scarcity
• 09:17 – Audience vs. critic Rotten Tomatoes discrepancy
• 13:25 – 17:41 – Analysis of “bike dancing” & romance at Town Dance
• 24:56 – Discussion of protagonist Crew’s daily paperboy routine
• 26:00 – Fashion/fetishization of 80s twins; jumpsuits and GI Joe comparisons
• 30:00 – 33:08 – Lengthy reading of racers’ names; awkward intros
• 36:44 – Conversation about stunts, racing, and Crew’s supposed skills
• 41:20 – Critique of Lori Loughlin’s character, stunt-doubling, and lack of female agency
• 52:05 – T-shirt dyeing, 80s nerd tropes, school “merch” subplot
• 69:15 – 70:42 – “Send Me An Angel” bike dance scene breakdown
• 81:32 – Amazon reviews and cult enthusiasm
• 85:54 – Would you recommend? Final verdicts from each host

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Final Verdicts: Would You Recommend Rad?

• Paul: “One million percent. The colors were popping, the dancing was both erotic and romantic… T2B, top to bottom, was fucking rad.” (85:54)
• June: “This movie’s not for me. I had a really difficult time watching it. I hope to never watch it again.” (86:51)
• Jason: “My eyes, too, were open to the balls out nature of this film, which I also say is rad.” (87:16)

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Flow and Tone

• Vivid, hilarious, affectionate skewering of 80s movie logic and Rad’s uniquely oddball place in cinematic history.
• Hosts’ tone switches between nostalgia, bewilderment, sarcasm, and genuine enthusiasm.
• The audience is deeply involved—with call-and-response, Q&A, cosplay, and musical performances.
• Old-school HDTGM dynamic: Paul adores it; June is befuddled; Jason is delighted by the weirdness.

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Conclusion

Rad emerges as a case study in the power of cult fandom, accidental camp, and the lasting appeal of bizarre cinematic relics. Whether you view it as a formative childhood inspiration, or as a lemon better left in the 80s, HDTGM’s dissection—part love letter, part roast, all comedy—makes a strong case for seeking out this “erotic” bike dance odyssey and deciding for yourself if it’s “fucking rad.”

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Best for: Fans of cult films, 80s pop culture, and anyone who prefers their underdog stories with a heavy dose of bike stunts, jumpsuits, and unexplained plot holes.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

the beautiful June gonna take you from the goob all the way to the

[Paul Scheer]

room Ran the games of street Fighter help to blow off steam just a

[Jason Mantzoukas]

sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green sharpnado the birdemic how we stay in the lock they call it in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad Jim Bonnie looking kind and nice Paul and June gettin literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots gettin paid they judge a bunch of movies in the grave Here's a real question for you how did this get made? Hello people of earth what's up Chicago. Amazing we are live in Chicago with a fucking electric audience. They only make one one noise and it's that so laughter it will just be if we say something offensive it will Just be get used to it. Ride the volume controls. If you're listening at home tonight we are talking about a crime. And the crime that we are talking about is the fact that this movie has never been released in a format that you can get to get into all this and more. But tonight we need to introduce my co host. Please welcome Jason Man Zoukas.

[Paul Scheer]

What's up jerks? How we doing, Chicago? Wow. I'm not going to lie. That's fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. This is an amazing and amazing crowd. Jason. Rad. Did you see it in theaters?

[Paul Scheer]

I am the age. That would make sense. Did it come out in theaters?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It did come out in theaters.

[Paul Scheer]

I didn't see it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It made hundreds of dollars.

[Paul Scheer]

I didn't see it. I saw the BMX movie that Nicole Kidman was in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, what was that?

[Paul Scheer]

What is it? BMX Bandits. Thank you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, if you want to see a guys lights down, give me the screen. We're just going to play that for the next two hours. I would straight up watch a back to back set of movies with you fucking maniacs of BMX Bandits and Rad again. Just so you could get a taste of teenage Nicole Kidman BMX bike racing

[Jason Mantzoukas]

just quickly.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which is better?

[Paul Scheer]

Which is better?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Rad.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll be honest, this movie was awesome.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie has been, we've been told I've been sent gift packages. I've been sent T shirts to do this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, what? Yeah. You've been sent gift packages?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, like that is. I have a shirt that says Rad Racing just like this.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, that's cool.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got sent DVDs.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, so you didn't get sent three?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look, they know who opens the mail. So we did all get DVDs. But numerous times over the year this movie has come up. I'm so glad that we waited until tonight to talk about it because again, it's impossible to find. But here's someone who also in her youth was a BMX bicycle bandit sponsored by Coca Cola. My other co host, June Diane Ravio. Welcome, June.

[June Diane Raphael]

Hi, Paul. How are you? You know, I was thinking about this movie and sometimes Paul will tell me it's on itunes or it's you're gonna find it on Amazon or Hulu. And I've noticed now there's a pattern. There's something very bad is about to come when it's been loaded onto my computer and is like a quick player file and I feel like it's from somewhere. I don't know where it came from, but that's how I viewed this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I sent June a Dropbox link, then went into her computer, downloaded the Dropbox link, and then put on your main screen. And it will remain on the main screen of your computer.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, forever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Forever.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's not going anywhere anytime soon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As every document that you've ever written.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. All on the main screen.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love it if every time I get an email from you from now on, in a tiny window on screen, rad is just playing and you're like, how do I turn this off? It's just in a loop

[June Diane Raphael]

from the moment. From the moment that first bike flew into frame.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

I felt so upset.

[Paul Scheer]

You knew you were in the presence of greatness.

[June Diane Raphael]

I did not like this motion picture. Now, it's not the first. It's not the first bicycle movie we've done, right? There was another, like, cross country biking special. Sport biking. I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think it might be the first bicycle movie that we have done.

[Paul Scheer]

There's the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We have done movies already.

[Paul Scheer]

There's the roller skates in solar babies.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. There's.

[June Diane Raphael]

I could have sworn there was like a competitive X game biking.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Xxx.

[Paul Scheer]

Sort of. Sort of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I mean, that's where they graduated.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the balcony Knows triple Falky. What's up?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want a big shout out to Vin Diesel for buying a ticket tonight. You're a good guy up there and getting the word out. Well, June, you're the perfect person to talk to about this movie because I feel like this movie people. 91% are rotten tomatoes. This movie. 91%, I would argue, but.

[Paul Scheer]

Too low.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Paul Scheer]

Too low, I say.

[June Diane Raphael]

Those are joke ratings. Those are real.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

91 on the audience on critical.00. It's the largest discrepancy between critical and audience reception in the entire database.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I'm talking about. We gotta get these critics out of here and we got to get the people reviewing all movies. And we need to give BMX to all the kids. Now

[June Diane Raphael]

I want to start at the beginning. What does BMX mean? What is that

[Paul Scheer]

such a good question.

[June Diane Raphael]

What is it? What does it mean?

[Paul Scheer]

Let's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what?

[Paul Scheer]

Let's try and crack this. I'm going to say it's bicycle.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Bicycle.

[Paul Scheer]

Motor. Cross.

[June Diane Raphael]

Where's the motor? Where's the motor? Bm what's the motor? Where is it?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I think. I think it's because it's motocross, which is a motorcycle event with bicycle. So they just put the B on the front of it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So bicycle motocross.

[Paul Scheer]

But you don't go to mx, right? You're not like, oh, are you going to go to the MX races this week? No, man, I can't go. I have jury duty. What? But weren't you. Didn't you commit a felony a number of years ago? You can't be a juror. They don't know that, brother. Hang with me, guys. This is a long story.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, yeah, I mean it doesn't. BMX stands for here. I'm looking online and you're right. Bicycle motocross or bicycle.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, it's a form of motocross or motor cross. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a form of cycling especially designed for bicycles which usually have an 18 to 24 inch wheels. And the sport includes racing on earth and tracks known as BMX racing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

So from what I understand.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know if that's 100% right. As the person who wrote that had a gerbil as their. As they're like the identifier.

[June Diane Raphael]

So this is where I guess I got confused. Have these bicycles specifically been created to ride off road or have they been created to just do these types of races and tricks?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, you didn't have like a BMX bike growing up and that wasn't a thing growing up.

[June Diane Raphael]

I've heard of them before.

[Paul Scheer]

It was quite possibly the most important thing I wanted to own.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Bmx, like I did a prepared for years to save up money to buy a Mongoose bike that I didn't get. I ended up. Oh no, I wanted it. I'm sorry. I wanted a GT bike there in this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

But I got the Mongoose because it was cheaper.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got a mongoose too. I was very excited about the Mongoose and I got a Mongoose scooter in addition. Yeah, look, fuck, dude, I was.

[Paul Scheer]

I didn't realize you were hopping, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

BMX stunts. This whole movie is directed by a stuntman, Hal Needham, who's known for like every great thing like Smokey and the Bandit. And is the Needham family here.

[Paul Scheer]

It was such a localized few number of people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

That it is quite possible his extended family is here. If you are the children of Hal Needham, please stand up and take credit for his work. Especially Smokey and the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The Bandit and Hooper, highest paid stuntman ever. And. But stunts in bmx, I will say I was not impressed by a lot of the stunts.

[Paul Scheer]

I would say this. I felt like the. And the racing was tepid.

[June Diane Raphael]

At best, I feel like I saw way more bike dancing.

[Paul Scheer]

That's. Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Than bike riding.

[Paul Scheer]

And I was gonna say I thought the bike dancing was electric. Most importantly, at the Town Wide dance,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

it seemed like it was a prom that everyone went to.

[Paul Scheer]

People. People were. People were, like, asking, like, a girl to the prom type of thing. But then at the dance, there were, like, grownups just hanging around, drinking,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

secret drinking. And then the BMX kids show up, too. There's a lot of issues. We'll get into that bike dance thing.

[Paul Scheer]

That bike dance thing. I rewound and watched again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We got it all.

[Paul Scheer]

We got so flummoxed by the dance. And then it transforms magically when the bicyclists come in and dance on bikes. Guys. I found it very romantic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That, by the way, that's the takeaway from the movie. Come for the stunts, leave for the romance. Yes, it does romance so well. It shows all the stages. Falling in love, throwing them in water, getting dry, and then throwing them in water again.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was crazy there. I've never seen two grown people just walk into water fully clothed. That. That many.

[Paul Scheer]

He's like, you want to go see something? He takes her to ass sliding, which, I'm not even kidding, is legitimately sewage runoff. They are in a cement slide. That is not for fun. So must be to carry solid waste from a tunnel to a body of water. These kids get pink eye.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, maybe that's it. Maybe that's why they have to keep their clothes on.

[Paul Scheer]

That's why. And that's why, like, they can't ever get caught. Because nobody thinks, like, well, they're probably out at the shit slide. Like, why would you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Dead.

[Paul Scheer]

That is. It is so crazy, the visual of it. And then they are soaking wet for the rest of the day.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then you think, okay, well, I'll justify that. The day just took them there, and they both said, fuck it. We won't take off our clothes. Shoes, or our pants or our heavy sweats.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. And we'll do it just a beat about the clothes they're wearing. Please know it's not like, oh, a T shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right?

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like heavy 80s fabric that doesn't breathe at all.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

And like, pleats.

[Paul Scheer]

And so many pleats. It's like trousers. Six metric yards of fabric. Makeup Lori Loughlin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yet she is dry. Moments later, at least edit the montage to be like. And then they get wet, and then the date is over. Like, let's just. But no, they're dry. But. So I'll forgive the Ass sliding as a one time thing. But later in the movie, what happens? Let's go do bike tricks and flip into the water. These motherfuckers can't stay out of water.

[June Diane Raphael]

Can't.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's.

[June Diane Raphael]

Once they put all their clothes on, they're at a real risk for just flying into a body of water.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

About Hal Needham. And again, Apollo, you know, just a tip of the hat to the Hal Needham family over there.

[Paul Scheer]

Right over here in the Needham seats. The Needham family, large supporters of this theater for many years.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They love live theater and stunts, but. And there was something that was so interesting about it. Stunts on the bike. And a lot of them are just like bouncing up and down on a wheel well, bouncing down. And it's the most unattractive, uncool thing to just see someone.

[Paul Scheer]

I think visually you don't want to do that anymore. Guys, I know what you're trying to embody, but without the bike, it's weird.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or is it? I'm in Chicago for just a little time, people. That's the way I move. Dancing, sexually, everything

[Paul Scheer]

Chicago, everybody's getting freaky tonight.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's why I felt so turned off by BMX riders and writing and the sport in general.

[Paul Scheer]

You weren't sexually into crew at all.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, my God. That all of the bike riders made me feel embarrassed.

[Paul Scheer]

What do you think is a more valid. What do you think is a more valid expression of self? Break dancing or BMX bike dancing?

[June Diane Raphael]

That's a. Honestly, that's a tough one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Both of them require a lot of effort and energy. They both are hard, both of them.

[Paul Scheer]

Both of them. I took classes at. At the ymca.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm actually gonna say. I'm gonna say now that I.

[Paul Scheer]

My child was sad.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now that I understand there is like a price point to having a BMX bike and that you probably had to be wealthy enough to get one. Then I definitely will side with breakdancing and say it's a more valid form of expression.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All you need is a piece of cardboard and you're good to go. Yeah, you're good to go. This movie also, I think one. I mean, there's a lot of issues with it, one being the lighting. So much so that at different points I'm like, what's going on here? Like, am I going blind? Why is it so pink then? Why is it so dark? Like in the opening sequence? Yeah, like when they're doing that paperboy route, I'm like, what's happening here?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, the crazy thing about the paper Aren't you were a paper boy, Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

I was.

[June Diane Raphael]

So I'm going to try to be as diplomatic. I know.

[Paul Scheer]

Be careful. I deliver the daily evening item.

[June Diane Raphael]

You. I'm going to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's some.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm going to be really careful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The pink sky.

[Paul Scheer]

But here's like some sort of Chernobyl shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I was like, is this post apocalyptic?

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean my question about this paper route. So from what I understand. And Jason, you know, chime in.

[Paul Scheer]

I am right here for you.

[June Diane Raphael]

June papers. The. A daily newspaper is usually delivered first thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

You got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

7am 6am 6aM what time do you head out?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

6am I.

[Paul Scheer]

He had an evening paper route purposely because I'm not a morning person even as a child. So. But I think no kids used to go out like go and pick up papers at 4 and be delivered by 5.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because he delivers his last paper at 7:15.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. That town is not up and awake and out and about and in their jobs. All of them by 7:15 in the morning.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You think that's a problem?

[June Diane Raphael]

That's the only problem I saw in this movie. Well that I just didn't biased.

[Paul Scheer]

Everything else worked.

[June Diane Raphael]

Everything else I would have been on board with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have a larger problem than the people being out and about was the fact that it seemingly was that his route was just to find the people and give them the paper if at their job. If over here it didn't look like there was any houses he was hitting. He was just randomly finding the person. So I was impressed on that level of paper boy. Like I was like, oh fuck it. This guy's not even doing houses. Yeah, like the. The garbage truck man's like late. Oh, my paper now. Let me hoist you up on my garbage truck to save you some time so he can.

[Paul Scheer]

So he can jump over the fence. That was crazy. That guy. That garbage man could literally lose his job for parking on the side of the road just to boost the kid up six feet.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

But hang on. Those guys live in that boat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's not even a houseboat. It's a rowboat, a small. And they're like, all right, there we go.

[Paul Scheer]

The firemen go by. So you're telling me the firemen. The firemen go by every day at that time, all in the truck geared up for a fire, or they're on their way to a fire, but still want the paper is crew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe an arsonist in disguise. He sets a fire every day to kind of just make sure he gets those paper boys.

[Paul Scheer]

I do also. Sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Go ahead, June.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I'm understanding now why town really comes around to rally behind him later on in the film. Because I didn't understand it, and now I'm remembering. He really, really tried to get those papers done. It does make sense.

[Paul Scheer]

He's, like, very committed to it. I do want to say fashion wise, and I'd love to open the table to discuss fashion with you, June. First of all, Cruz rocking the chachi bandana around the thigh look. I feel like they were try. I felt like. And I'm not sure because maybe they hired crew because he could do. Because he is doing a fair amount of bike, the dancing stuff. You know, he can do tricks. I mean, so maybe they hired him for that reason. But he does look. He does look a lot like Scott Baio.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And they're dressing him like Scott Baio, and they're putting, like, the chachi kind of bandana around his leg. And I. I'm gonna now just use that as a segue into both talking about his fashions, but also the fashions of the twins.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am obsessed.

[Paul Scheer]

I want to talk about nothing, nothing but those twins.

[June Diane Raphael]

The rest of this podcast is gonna be devoted only to the twins.

[Paul Scheer]

Those guys. Those were guys that, when I saw them in a movie, I was like, I want to look like those guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Those guys.

[Paul Scheer]

I want to look like this kid. I want to look like those guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were like, straight up GI Joe from the 80s cartoon villains. Remember those characters like Zemo and Tomax? One had a scar on one side and the other one had a scar on the other side. They were dressed in outfits that I don't think were ever popular.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yes. With a flap that went down here. That's a jump jumpsuit. Holy shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Their outfit was in the shape of a V. It was like a. Yeah, it was crazy.

[June Diane Raphael]

In general, though, I feel like the 80s was obsessed with twins. Like, there was sort of a cultural obsession and a fetishization of double twins

[Paul Scheer]

was a big thing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

The Double Trouble twins, of course. My first sexual awakening.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Double Trouble. Great show.

[Paul Scheer]

Great show. I mean, you want to reboot a show? Reboot Double Trouble. I'm in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But they're also like. I feel like the twins are not necessarily evil as much as they're just like showboats. Like, they're like. I mean, I would say that there's a whole issue as far as, like, who's bad and who's good in this town. Because there really is no conflict to speak of. More than that one person is the success.

[Paul Scheer]

The twins. And Bart Connor. Wait, is Bart Connor Gymkata?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, actually, this guy.

[Paul Scheer]

Who is he?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, this. I will tell you that this guy was an Olympic gymnast.

[Paul Scheer]

He is a gymnast, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Who was? Jim Kada, the other Bart.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kurt Thomas.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, okay, okay. But close, right? He said okay. So they're not from this town, right?

[June Diane Raphael]

No, they're all out of towners.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're coming here because this is going to put this town on the map. This hick town that is so not hick. Like, they treat this town like. I'm surprised the roads are paved. Like, really? It looks like every regular sized small town, actually.

[June Diane Raphael]

I feel like if you have a BMX bike there, it's not a, you know, Podunk town. If you could get that bicycle in a 10 mile radius, like, that's kind of a cool town. Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

So you think it's probably maybe the coolest town?

[June Diane Raphael]

Probably. I couldn't even keep track though, of like all the fat cats and all of the, like, interpersonal relationships. I just knew. I didn't care. But I couldn't keep track of who was who and who was the mayor and why they wanted this here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were trying to create the Super Bowl. Like the super bowl would now be in their small town. Cause everyone around the world, this is gonna air on its many screens as the super bowl in their mind. Yeah. He said this is our Super Bowl.

[Paul Scheer]

The airing of the hell track race.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Which was at best passable as a race.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have to say, that's the thing that upset me the most. The qualifying race seemed more interesting.

[Paul Scheer]

Harder.

[June Diane Raphael]

A lot harder.

[Paul Scheer]

And I'm sorry. The qualifying race. I feel like I watched 700 laps of races.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, they would.

[Paul Scheer]

It was in real time. I was like, is this now just a documentary about this race?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And the announcer talks a big game at the beginning of each race, but then stops narrating the race as it's going on. Like, did he win? It didn't look like he won. It wasn't a. I had no idea

[June Diane Raphael]

what that qualifying race was. And then they. And they'd send another 10 off and you just watch the whole thing again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then the people who are actually racing in Helltrack, they're also qualifying, but they're coming there to race Helltrack. This is just for the people who want to get like, okay, so was

[June Diane Raphael]

the qualifying race just for the townspeople?

[Paul Scheer]

No, I believe the qualifying race was to get it down to a final number. A final race of 10. Because. Because there were so many entrants.

[June Diane Raphael]

A thousand.

[Paul Scheer]

And I feel like we watched every single one of them of the qualifyings. And I believe I watched a thousand people do that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, by the way, I believe it. I definitely know we were introduced to a thousand bicyclists for the actual Hell track.

[Paul Scheer]

That was amazing. One of their nicknames was Hollywood.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I just play that?

[Paul Scheer]

Just play that intro?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. This is introducing every racer. It is. If you're listening at home, just picture a very nonplussed face for every name. You're not missing any visual. You're not. Maybe a wave. No visual.

[June Diane Raphael]

Maybe like mild irritation even.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Yeah. Here's the starting feing for team Hutch. From Canada, Jeff Ingram. For Team Robinson. From San Diego, Richard Fleming, Robert L. From Los Angeles. For DK Racing, the power light racer, Danny Milwe. From the Redline team. From Torrance, California, Scott Clark, Canada. By the way, that guy looks like he's 4:40. But. But let's.

[Paul Scheer]

A number of these people do. By the way, so does Crew.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, well, this is also like 80s movies where all the teens look like they're middle aged people. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is qualified for North Row. And super sucky Mark Naparijo for gt. Glenn Adams out of Utah will be riding for BAM Bikes. The pedal power rider is Chris Phoenix. For Team Robinson, it's Travis Chipray. For Team gt, Eddie Fiola as well as Kevin hall from Texas, it's still going. For the Skyways team, it's Richie Anderson. Riding for fans is Beagle Rosecrans from Honolulu. And for team Hunt, Hollywood High School Rangers Team Hot Goose qualifies three riders, the Reynolds twins, Rod and Rats out of Bayshore, Long island, as well as the number one rider in the nation, Florida's Mark Taylor for Rad Racing. I was so excited during that sequence because the two twins are from my hometown, New York. No one is from Bayshore, New York. I was like, yeah, we got twin bad guys.

[Paul Scheer]

Are they actual BMX dudes? I'm gonna go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When I go home for the holidays, I'm gonna find out.

[Paul Scheer]

We watched that whole segment. Every single one of those riders was mentioned. They got a straight ahead shot on them. Not one of them waved normally at all. Nobody could just give a cool wave. Everybody waved somehow weirdly.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you've ever heard of.

[Paul Scheer]

Comfortably.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you've ever heard of that, like, that book or that website with, like, awkward family photos. Right. It is the encapsulation of this in video form. No one looks ready. No one looks ready for it. People seem upset that it's happening. It's all. It's all. You caught everybody at the wrong moment. It's like, I'm in the middle. Oh, hi. I gotta get back to this camera.

[June Diane Raphael]

They're all in direct sunlight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Fun fact about the final race the film built, the wall that they start on too high. And all the professional racers like, no, we're not doing this. And they had to kind of like shuttle production for, like, two weeks to lower the hell track. The hell track was too high.

[Paul Scheer]

Can you imagine if, like, 11 BMX racers were killed on this film?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One broke their leg. We saw him. He had the broken leg that they. High five. He was. Was one of the stuntmen.

[June Diane Raphael]

Listen, let me ask, as BMX bikers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, sure.

[Paul Scheer]

As b. It's. It's pronounced BM experts.

[June Diane Raphael]

As BM experts.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, all right, that's enough. That's enough.

[June Diane Raphael]

Did you recognize any of these faces?

[Paul Scheer]

I did not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I did not. I would argue, though, if you showed me today's best bmx. I don't know. Matt.

[Paul Scheer]

Matt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Matt. Mira was there. No, that's not. He owes. He owes. James Bonding podcast.

[Paul Scheer]

You just promoting Matt Mara James Bonding podcast.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, but it, like, wasn't there one, like, that was like, what's his name? Matt. She had that one.

[Paul Scheer]

So why do all you shitheads know BMX racers? Wait, how many people are here tonight? Not because you like our podcast, but just because you love BMX racing and heard this was about

[Jason Mantzoukas]

these people. Come and find it. The. The rad fans are so into this movie. I wish they'd be a little bit more into it because when they did start a Kickstarter, they wanted to crowdfund a documentary about the film called 25 Years Later. A Rad Tr. It did not reach the goal.

[Paul Scheer]

Heartbroken. I am heartbroken to hear that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. This. Yeah. But there is a hell track being built right now, and there's going to be a hell track somewhere in the country. Someone sent me the flyer for it.

[Paul Scheer]

For real?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow. Well, I was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I want to go in that big bowl of cereal.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I would. And I was looking forward to the hell track and seeing what. What types of, you know, obstacles there were going to be. But it did feel like, man, they spent a lot of time trying to keep Cruz out of this. They should have used that time and energy building more fun things for these BMX guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would argue, too, that the bummer of BMX racing in this format is that they're just doing the same thing over and over and over again. And they didn't even, like, change what was happening. It was like, oh, they made it, they made it, they made it.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, some guys fell, but okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

And what I really didn't like about this film is, and you can fall and it's okay. Oh, just get back up.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And you can go. You can also jump on either side of an obstacle in front of you, like that tub that you have to go in and ride the thing out or bowl of cereal or whatever. Some people just rode around it easy enough. You don't have to get in single file line and everybody ride the spoon out, so why ride the spoon at all?

[June Diane Raphael]

And the thing that really annoyed me is that there was no. There were. There were no differences in types of racers. So Cruz, was he a good BMX racer?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Blood, I mean, as she. As Lori Loughlin said, it's. He's got something.

[June Diane Raphael]

Did you see anything different in his style than anyone else's?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Absolutely not.

[June Diane Raphael]

There was nothing I was connected to about racing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'd argue that he didn't even show me anything that exciting besides bike dancing.

[Paul Scheer]

He was.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, he was a great bike dancer.

[Paul Scheer]

He was a great bike dancer. He was a great bike dancer, you know, but that's the thing is I wish that the whole movie had been reversed and that we might have seen the big race or whatever, but that you really see him come into his own at the dance at the end of the movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's interesting.

[Paul Scheer]

He's done the racing, which is a big bucket of who cares, right? I mean, I get it, but he really has to. If he's gonna get the girl, he has to win her with his moves. You know, his moves on the bike, on the dance floor.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm down for that.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, the most disappointing part was at the very end of the race, there was no special move that won him that race, by the way. He just simply got A little bit further.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And kind of didn't even get to that point. The lead guy, our main hero, is like, oh, yeah, I need to stop and wait up for him.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And to what end? Because isn't the thing a race? So why would you ever go, like, let me let him catch up and then we'll really see who wins? No, you're racing when you're ahead.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I think that that was his plan all along to throw the race. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You think Bart Conner wanted to lose the race to Cruise? Yeah, because, hey, Hal Needham's family.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Because I think there was something not sitting well with him, knowing that he was, you know, essentially the property. Yeah. And he joined in with the team at the very end. Well, he didn't want to be there.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I had an issue with the number one BMX biker not competing, which was kind of thrown to the side. Like, Lori Loughlin, like, she's like. He's like, why do you have that number one? She's like, well, self explanatory. Right. I'm the best. And then they go in the park and they jump up on stuff and. But when he goes like, why aren't you in the hell track? This weird explanation, which is so bizarre. It's like. It's so odd to be like, she came to town, then to what? She's not competing. She just says, I didn't get a

[June Diane Raphael]

chance to thank you. Thank you for the dance last night.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're welcome.

[June Diane Raphael]

You took off so quick. I thought maybe there was something about me you didn't like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, that's not it.

[Paul Scheer]

Can you pause for a second? He's giving her nothing. He's giving her nothing. This is the day after the bike dance. This is the day of the Aspen, I believe. This is like, love. And she's saying, I thought you didn't like me. And he's like, nah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Huh?

[Paul Scheer]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He might as well be a sack of potatoes pushing a bike.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But don't you feel that, like, Lori Laughlin. Is that how you pronounce her name? Like, and if it isn't. Oh, that's what I'll say. That Lori, her whole career has been, like, being better than her male counterpart, ultimately, with the exception of Stamos.

[Paul Scheer]

Stamos. The two of them, though, I swear to God, these. These are vampires.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So good.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, it's crazy. She looks better now and she's beautiful there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, so he. He. Here we go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Good on that bike. And you picked up that move like that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I didn't have much of a choice. So you gonna ride hell track?

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I kind of wish I could, but I still race for trophies. See, my factory sent me here for kind of a show and tell thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, I raced for trophies. Okay, so that's. That's a. That's a Corvette race. I guess.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's trophies, I think.

[Paul Scheer]

Is she saying she's like still competing on a circuit that is like the Olympic version of this and that this is like pro sports?

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, listen, they spent millions. They do a lot of stunt wigging in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, that I have that clearly made.

[June Diane Raphael]

No attempt to find a woman who could ride a bicycle. Yeah, no attempt. Like, I find it hard to believe that there was nothing, not one woman in all the land that could have done some of her stunts.

[Paul Scheer]

Agree.

[June Diane Raphael]

How. How is that possible?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, there should be at least one, right?

[June Diane Raphael]

There should be one female BMX racer who could have done this.

[Paul Scheer]

Isn't that on your special skills, on your resume?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm trying to find. All right, so this is look for

[June Diane Raphael]

any scene that she's in with a.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, this is basically.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is just. Look, if you just watch Lori's hair. Here we go.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, that is just the body type of broad shouldered man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, that's just a man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we go.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a more like a Marlo Thomas wig.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's her face. That's her female body. Female body. That's his riding on normal ground. Okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, there's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is crew. Into the water and this is a man going into the water.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's a man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, what if she's like a BMX vampire? Like when she rides, she turns into their body. Turns into a man.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, the thing that's really disturbing though, so not only do they just not find anyone to do her stunts, but then they just take her storyline away completely.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

The character can't even be a writer.

[Paul Scheer]

No, she's not allowed.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

She's not allowed. It would be unseemly

[Jason Mantzoukas]

in the grand scheme of things. That don't make sense. I agree with you. I was confused about the politics of this town. The old man who's rich, the mayor, but more importantly, the cop. The cop who I forgot about, and I know this is like a little bit of a deep reference, but the cop looks like Dr. Eggman from Sonic. And the cop makes a speech at the end of the movie to rally the town that I Rewound. Because I don't believe it makes any sense. Oh, and he left out a couple of lines.

[Paul Scheer]

I will say this is. He has been the lead actor's nemesis. So Hal Needham also made Smokey and the Bear. Okay, Right. And their relationship is a lot like Smokey the Bandit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Smokey the Bandit and BJ and the Bear was the TV show. Don't worry about it, guys. It all happened. So it's about a cop chasing a trickster roadster played by Burt Reynolds. This is the same exact dynamic, but with them on bikes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I would argue the cop is a friend the whole movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Like when they're racing revealed here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, but in the first scene, when they're going through the log thing, he's like, oh, the cops are. He wants to race us. Who wants to do it this time? Oh, I'll do it. Like it wasn't.

[Paul Scheer]

I thought he was there to bust.

[June Diane Raphael]

He was there to bust. I think you read that moment wrong, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

Really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, wait. Was he there to bust them?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, of course he was. Wait a minute.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, he was just there to race them. And that's why they said. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wait, wait, that's insane. That's insane. And that didn't happen.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, who thinks he was there to bust them, though?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And who thinks he was there to race them?

[Paul Scheer]

You guys are fucking idiots. Then why does this scene. This scene only makes sense if we perceived him. Story structure, wise guys.

[June Diane Raphael]

It only makes sense if this is

[Paul Scheer]

a turn for the cop.

[June Diane Raphael]

We're supposed to be completely shocked that this is happening.

[Paul Scheer]

Otherwise, you're saying the script for this movie is nonsense and that's not possible. And what we're here to say is. How dare you. This is flawless classic storytelling.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will tell you that.

[Paul Scheer]

I believe I'm talking the Lysistrata. No, no, I'm not trying to say. I'm talking. I'm saying. I'm just talking about the Lysistrata. I'm talking Shakespeare. I'm talking rad. These are classics. Sorry, Paul. Sorry, Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will.

[Paul Scheer]

I wasn't trying to talk you down.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say that I think one of the things was, is this cop saw something in these kids. He's like, you know what? I'm gonna challenge them every day because one day this town will get a shot and we will get on the map. And I am here to serve and protect. And I am going to protect that. We bring home health track, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm so sorry, Paul. The part has been cast.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We are reboot Crazy people put me in a CG in this part.

[Paul Scheer]

See, I agree with you. If this is the scene where you discover that's what he's been doing the whole time, if you know he's been doing it the whole time, then what we're saying is what it's.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's insane.

[Paul Scheer]

You guys, these are teenagers on BMX bikes. Their natural enemy is the police.

[June Diane Raphael]

His job is to serve and protect this town. He may, in, like, some area of his brain enjoy watching their tricks and blah, blah, blah, but he's enforcing the whole time because he has to, because that's his job. Despite every instinct he has, he sees what's going on. And for the first time in his life, he lays down all the rules and all the regulations and he stands up for what he knows in his heart is the right thing to do. But it's not easy for him. It's not comfortable, but he does it anyway.

[Paul Scheer]

And you know how we know he's being real for the first time in the whole movie? He takes his sunglasses off. He lets us see his soul through his eyes. He says, look at me for real.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I challenged Paul Thomas Anderson to do a better choice at directing an actor than that. Here is the speech that makes no sense. And the best thing about rad is you can interpret his motivation in a myriad of ways.

[June Diane Raphael]

Please, can I have a word here?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He walks fully to the stage.

[Paul Scheer]

He walks the whole way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought I heard it all till now.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wait, does he not take him off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I've watched his kids grow up. I've chased every one of them. I think crew and his friends have done something special, real special. They have given themselves hope. And all your talk about dollars is killing that hope. If someone doesn't see that crew has this opportunity, well, I guess we'll just all have to learn to live with it.

[Paul Scheer]

I owe you guys an apology. He didn't take off the sunglasses, but

[June Diane Raphael]

he pretty much did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I almost feel like he put on a pair of darker sunglasses.

[June Diane Raphael]

In many ways, he did them.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what? His words metaphorically took the sunglasses off for him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you are an acting student out there, if you are a professional actor and they say, hey, bring a monologue next time you audition, I say to

[Paul Scheer]

that end, I would say bring the monologue for Miami connection.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, that's pretty great, too.

[Paul Scheer]

But if someone else in class is doing that, bring this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, that speech. We'll have to live with it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. And he's like, we're talking about money, but what they Were talking about was raising money for him to be able to raise to compete.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I. I am still grappling with the question of where did they get the capital money to buy all those T shirts in the first.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, that was that guy, the evil man in this movie, the BMX bad guy. He worked for Mongoose, as the small patch on his suit told us. So he was a Mongoose person who's like, I spent millions in merch, and if this kid wins, I'll become very successful because I've, like, forwarded his.

[Paul Scheer]

Bart Connor wins. He needs Bart Conner to win the race. But you're asking why does my question, babe.

[June Diane Raphael]

Initially, yes. Cruise crew with his sister, which we haven't even spoken about

[Paul Scheer]

her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So cute. I just want to shove her in a garbage can.

[June Diane Raphael]

She. Originally, they were able to make $10,000 worth of T shirts. Where'd that money come from?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. The qualifying race.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Made $10,000.

[Paul Scheer]

Got him $10,000. And he used that money instead. Remember, he was gonna use that money to whatever he was gonna do. He instead turns that into trying to get sponsorship, because that's the next hurdle they throw in front of him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With the rulebook where they're keeping. They're adding rules. At any given point, there's like, here's another new rule.

[June Diane Raphael]

So he took the ten grand, invested it into the T shirts.

[Paul Scheer]

Correct.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thinking he would make 20.

[Paul Scheer]

Keep in mind, also into painting his helmet and making a shirt for him to wear. But, yes, that's where the 10,000 was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, no, no, no. That shirt for him to wear. Wasn't that designed by that elaborate ploy where everyone in the school was building an outfit for him that was very lackluster? And one nerd was doing all of their homework.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yes, yes. What was that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One nerd. It was like, one nerd. You do all their homework, and then we'll use all of their seamstress, their

[Paul Scheer]

painting skills, and everybody's. I'm here to color T shirts. That was the other thing. They were dying white T shirts, red, which was a thing we used to do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's cheaper to get that white material.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, they missed a real opportunity to tie dye that uniform. I was like, how fucking rad would it have been if that red shirt was tie dyed? Fuck. We did a lot of that anyway. And so they make all that shit, and the kid comes in and he's like, well, I'm here to paint or color T shirts. Here's my homework. And they hand the homework off to someone else who's just doing all of every subject I this.

[June Diane Raphael]

Every 80s movie, Smart Kids are punished for being smart.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, you know, and this is I was gonna say too, in the beginning, smart kids are punished. And also parents treat their kids terribly because there's that opening scene where the mom's pulling out of the driveway and she goes, if you don't shut up. I was like, wow, getting hot early in the morning.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll be honest, I miss those days. I miss when people would just like scream profanities at their children in like the mall. Why don't you shut the fuck up?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way? You know, we keep on saying rad. And that wasn't the actual title of the movie. It was changed very late in the game. And I'll play this clip and maybe you can see what the original title might have been. You can do it. Just pretend you're in a lumberyard. Go Balls Out. Balls out was the name of this movie if.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June, you don't look like you like the title Balls Out.

[Paul Scheer]

I would argue if this movie had been called Go Balls out, it would have won an Oscar every year since its release.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, not to go back to the policeman's motivation, but after seeing that scene, it's just become clearer and clearer. He was just doing his job until he couldn't anymore.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[June Diane Raphael]

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[Paul Scheer]

Oh joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

[June Diane Raphael]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[June Diane Raphael]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, arguably too, if you're. If you're talking about awards and handing out awards, I'm sure that Talia Shire just came off of Rocky. She read this script was, like, great part for me, like.

[Paul Scheer]

But this is no reason to have

[Jason Mantzoukas]

her in this movie. She's great. She's not. She's not doing anything bad.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. This is a Schwarzman Coppola family movie, I believe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is it? Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

John Schwartzman, producer. Jack.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Jack Schwartzman, producer, who I'm the same assuming is Jason's dad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

I believe that makes Talia Shire either a sister or a cousin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Because that makes sense. Because I was like, it makes no sense that she agreed to that part in this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

And it also likely means that Nicolas Cage was almost in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, huge missed opportunity for Nic Cage to play both twins.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, amazing.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, in our remake, we have the offer out to Nic Cage to play both those parts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

At the age he is now, he

[Paul Scheer]

really wants to play twins again.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now. Did. Did crew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Crew.

[June Diane Raphael]

Did crew ever take his SATs?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

No. In six months, right? Wasn't that the thing? He'll take him in six months.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But he'll miss college, so we just

[June Diane Raphael]

never know if he took them or not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, he doesn't need to now. He's number one in the world.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, that was the whole thing. That was. Was her whole thing. Regardless of the outcome, he was gonna take them.

[Paul Scheer]

If his mom had been a little bit more forceful and maybe said, you know what? Unless you take those SATs, no racy. Oh, there's the guy that kept saying, no racy. I thought that was gonna get a much bigger response. Guys, I'm not gonna lie to you. Cause I wrote it down. Cause I was like, I don't like that this guy keeps saying, no racing. No racing. Really thought that was gonna hit. You know what, Chicago? I don't like you anymore.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, it was.

[Paul Scheer]

No, it's over for us. Take your Illuminatis and get the fuck out of here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We talk a lot about the stunts in this movie, but I have to say the best stunt in the film was when Ray Walston, the older man in the movie, balances two coffee cups. They were not glued down. He kept that. That plate almost at a 90 degree angle at some point. And those coffee cups Stayed on.

[June Diane Raphael]

So I thought once I saw that for sure he was gonna be in the hell race at the end.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, I would have loved that.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was waiting for it.

[Paul Scheer]

And it was his $27,000 that made up the gap.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. What. What's his background?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where did he make money?

[Paul Scheer]

I don't. I'm unclear where he has.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He worked in a. He worked in a place where someone else is there. We know that there are two coffee cups or he likes to drink a lot of coffee, so.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because that's no small chunk of change to just throw to a random kid in the town.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, he is shark tanking it. He sees potential and he's like I'm gonna sit on $26,000 worth of merchant. Cuz I know I'm gonna resell that shit in a couple of weeks and I'm gonna get my money back.

[Paul Scheer]

I would finance currently a movie that stars just him and the little sister. Get like solving a mystery or something.

[June Diane Raphael]

She was amazing. She was baby Kathryn Hahn.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

She was so good.

[Paul Scheer]

She was like the. She was the equivalent of the little brother in Teen Witch.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's. Let's hear.

[Paul Scheer]

I found. Well, actually, I take it back. That's the movie I want. I want a movie where the brother from Teen Witch teams up with his sister from Rad and they solve a mystery.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If these movies were successful, you might have gotten it. Let's just have a little taste of the two of them together.

[June Diane Raphael]

Brew, you were late.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, forget that.

[Paul Scheer]

What was that terrorist act all about back there?

[June Diane Raphael]

It just bums me out how the stupid kids think. Bart so rad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're better than him.

[June Diane Raphael]

And if you could race, you'd show em, wouldn't you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Crew. I don't know. That Bart guy's pretty good.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wes. Bullshit. Mom's not here. Come on, let's go faster. Hey Wes, how about a shower? What are you doing?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, there's like some actual real stunts with kids that were stressing me out.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought maybe what might be fun is if. If we went through the dance bike section we can maybe keep the volume down a little bit and just see what we're. Just talk through what we're seeing because this is the scene that I feel like we do need to kind of go through.

[Paul Scheer]

Keep in mind, again, this is at what appears to be a school dance, but is in fact a town wide dance.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Lori Laughlin comes in.

[June Diane Raphael]

Man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Man, Lori Loughlin comes in. She like rides the bike into the dance hall, which is an odd choice. There's no one else there. Then he goes in after her. He's never bike danced before.

[Paul Scheer]

Could you pause for a second? This would make so much more sense if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

If their relationship was such that there was more energy between them now so that she was choosing crew instead of Bart Connor in a way that was more meaningful.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well then also, crew had a crush on a young woman named Katie in

[Paul Scheer]

the beginning of the film who appeared to hate him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Everybody in town is so dazzled by both the fact that he's such a good nice boy and. Or he's totally rad on that bike, falls out, he chases her and he's like, will you go to the dance with me? And she's essentially like, like, go yourself, crew. I don't know what she's up to, but she's not playing the game.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She doesn't want to be with a bmx, dirt riding.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know what, listen, where she's coming from is just like she doesn't like the mode of transportation. She's like, what are you going to pick me up in?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought she didn't, couldn't go to the dance cuz she has to take care of her two children cuz she's 40.

[Paul Scheer]

I said, I said, I said, is this a teacher? That's like. Because she's so dismissive. Like I felt like her line was gonna be crew, I'm your teacher. This is inappropriate. Or actually, wait, what year is it? It might be totally appropriate. Unclear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say their meet cute between crew and Lori happens because a woman is in her car. She's like, the oven's on, my cake will get burned. It's like, all right, well stop the parade and get this woman to get to her cake.

[June Diane Raphael]

That woman was not right. She was not what?

[Paul Scheer]

The town cake lady?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, she left me feeling very unsafe.

[Paul Scheer]

She also left her home while the oven was on.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, no, she's not a weather.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She started baking, went out for dinner.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, you guys, something's very wrong with her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There is no oven and there's no cake and there's probably no house later on.

[June Diane Raphael]

She lives in that car or whatever the fuck that was at the town meeting. And then again when they're watching the qualifying races. I mean, she's obsessed with crew.

[Paul Scheer]

If, if, if she is, she is sexually obsessed with crew. Like the real love story should be told from her point of view towards crew. The reality is if you have this few people to round out the town, don't shoot it in an Enormous room. And don't add extra chairs that aren't full. I'm not even kidding. There are more people.

[June Diane Raphael]

So many extra chairs.

[Paul Scheer]

So many empty chairs that are just reminding you either people are not coming to town meeting or they cannot afford any more extras. Honest to God, more people showed up at the Stars Hollow town meeting every week than showed up to this town's meeting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, Jason, if you're saying they couldn't afford extras, you probably think this is a low budget movie, right? How much money you think this movie costs to make in 1986?

[Paul Scheer]

1986? $4 million.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

To make.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're asking, right? The budget. The budget of the movie in 1986.

[Paul Scheer]

Four to six million dollars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, June,

[June Diane Raphael]

I'd say about three million.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, $11 million. Where? $11 million in 1986, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

That's like $46 million right now. Genuine question. Did they build the town? Did they build all of the infrastructure of a small American town? Because that is the only way they spent $11 million million dollars to make the movie Rad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because, and this is maybe a little inside baseball, but there's not even many interiors in this movie. It's all daytime exteriors, which is the cheapest thing to shoot. 11 million. And when it came out in opening weekend, it did make $408,000.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know, maybe it was on all those BMX racers. Maybe they just really, like, you know, wanted to make their quotes. How much could they possibly have cost,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

by the way, they're getting sponsored. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, all of their brands are being represented in the movie. That's like product placement essentially all over the movie. By the way, if you're mongoose, why are you letting yourself be, like, the douchiest? What you get, like, if you're mongoose, you're like, great, we'll be in the movie. And you're like, everybody's gonna hate your brand. Everybody's gonna associate you with the twins and the blonde douche.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, there were rad vans. Like, vans got in on this, too.

[June Diane Raphael]

7 11.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is it?

[June Diane Raphael]

Coca Cola and 7 11.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Coca Cola vans, I believe is in some sort of lawsuit with rad is really one of the only bits of trivia I do know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's lots of message boards about this movie, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Limited edition Vans, rad shoes.

[Paul Scheer]

Look at the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This shoe's only available at your local, authorized, participating band's dealer.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I ask this audience a question? Is anybody here wearing the rad Shoes. I feel like it's something that could be possible in one of these shows. And the answer is no. You failed us, Chicago. That's two strikes, baby. Two strikes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, so we were watching the dance scene. We'll get back to the dance scene. But I will say when we're talking about, oh, it'd be great if Lori was maybe dating Bart, I would argue it would be great if Bart was anything evil. He simply seems to show up, be cool, dance, and not really get in cruise face at all.

[Paul Scheer]

He's the best. He's the best guy at this. We know he's already established as the champion.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, he just seems like. I don't know. If Al Pacino came to your town, he would be just as aloof as Bart. Like, he's like, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And what's interesting about why is Pacino coming to town?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pacino was originally for the acting off.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Is your town. Did your town host the acting off?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was a Super bowl of acting competitions.

[June Diane Raphael]

What's interesting about his performance is that I actually thought he was doing a great job playing one of those guys, like a snowboarder who's just like, yeah, I'm really good. I'm here. I've got not a ton going on up here, but that's okay. Like, not a lot of light behind the eyes.

[Paul Scheer]

But, like, I'm here to. I'm here to do the thing you've

[June Diane Raphael]

asked me to do. Yeah. And when I'm done with that, I'll leave.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, Bart, Olympic gymnast. Bart married to Nadia Comanic.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There they are getting married up there. You see them right there?

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

They look so happy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And here is Bart just talking about Rad.

[June Diane Raphael]

When I look back at the film all these years later, people all often

[Jason Mantzoukas]

talk to me about Rad.

[June Diane Raphael]

And it's kind of funny because literally, I meet people who know the movie Rad but have no idea that I

[Jason Mantzoukas]

used to be an Olympic gymnast.

[June Diane Raphael]

They just know me from Rad. I mean, literally, I have strangers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'll be walking down the street, and a guy will stop me and go, dude, Bartaylor awesome. And then they just keep walking.

[June Diane Raphael]

And it's all these years later, and

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I still get it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who would have thought that the film

[Jason Mantzoukas]

would have such an intense cult following? But I'm really proud of that.

[Paul Scheer]

He seems like a very nice man.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

So I wonder if people come up to him and are like, jim Ka.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right. By the way, if you're recognizing that dude from Red, you are on a Facial level of recognition that is unknown to.

[June Diane Raphael]

Very different. It's very different.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's only like. You're like, all right, so now it's 2018. Here's a guy in. In 1986. He was a child. Got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think I would recognize my family that I haven't seen in a couple years.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Did anyone else find it troubling that the prize was not a bicycle?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was.

[June Diane Raphael]

But a car?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. That is odd, right? All right, so we'll just watch a little bit of this dancing. And the thing that it was so kind of. And I guess who gives a shit? But I am at least, like. They just start bike dancing as if it was a thing that he's done before. You can't just be like, follow me. She's gliding on the bike. And you think maybe they'll just do tricks to each other, but they're not doing tricks. They are bike dancing lit. Like they're at the Olympics. And I don't know where they're getting that height and jump from because there's no ramps in there. So this is.

[Paul Scheer]

This song is awesome.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All the songs.

[Paul Scheer]

This is amazing. Like, this is. There's. There's nothing more erotic than this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can you just describe that? Because I just want to.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, she's basically gliding in, like, in, like, a dance position on top of the bike. Like a goddamn angel sent from heaven above, as the song tells us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. I mean, I would listen to this soundtrack and body rock all day long.

[Paul Scheer]

I urge you to go home tonight and fuck to this soundtrack. It's on Spotify.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about Break the Ice? That's a good song, too. Break the ice. Yeah. So she's, like, doing this, which I don't think is impossible. Move. This is not a move. He's just still. He's doing his. He's doing his jumping. She's flying.

[Paul Scheer]

I love this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're just showboating. Who is that again? I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

These are the old men at the

[Jason Mantzoukas]

dance who have been set up to be getting drunk.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. They've been putting alcohol in the children's punch.

[Paul Scheer]

Now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now they are standing on the. They're going so slow. That's the thing that makes me. You can't sell. Stunt that. Look at this.

[Paul Scheer]

Send me an angel, guys. I mean, this is I. It. This,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

this. As Jason said, send me an angel. We see Crew lying flat on his bike, arm extended.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, this is unreal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? We are having so much fun talking about the show. I have to get in the audience here and talk to them about this movie as well. I want to point out that someone brought this amazing sign. If you remember, in the film, there is a moment, a non ironic moment, where crew meets up with Lori. They're in an ice cream shop and he tries to get her back. Can you pass that to me? Great, thank you. And. They're in an ice shop and it says, having a friend like you makes me happy all over. And. And he points to it like, yeah. And it doesn't make any fucking sense. This is amazing. Thank you for making that. What's her name? Christy. Thank you, Christy. We can give it back to you too. We could keep it or we can give it back to you. I don't want to. Don't you think that we just took it from you? Like, aha, it's ours.

[Paul Scheer]

It's ours now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm going to kiss it all night long.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm gonna go down there. I have to come down this way. I'm looking for a title that you think, a one word or two word title that you think would be great for this movie. As you ask your questions, I want you to think about that. A one or two word title. Who has a question? Something they want to point out. Yes, sir. Come here. Sir, your name? Tom. And your movie title? Wigtown. Nice. So two things.

[Paul Scheer]

I was also enamored with the twins in the movie. So first things.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I looked into Rod and Rex. They are now successful screenwriters, and they

[Paul Scheer]

wrote the Conjuring and the Conjuring 2. Yeah, yeah. And also the jumpsuits that they wear at the dance were borrowed from the set of the miniseries V. I was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wrote. Okay, I wrote down. I wrote down on that thing. I go, these people look like they're from V. And then I said, I. I can't make that reference because it will date me. Whoa. We have someone. We have. We have someone in the audience dressed.

[June Diane Raphael]

Someone's wearing the outfits. Someone's wearing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's stand up next to him. Dressed in Lori Laughlin's X Men outfit. Look at this. Very exciting.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait a second.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Three costumes. Three amazing costumes.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I ask you guys a question? Are you also Hal Needham's family?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Please take a picture of them. We'll put that up in the show page.

[Paul Scheer]

Guys, those are three people that want to talk to you after the show.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who else? Over here. All right, sir, your name, your title and your question. My name is Nick. My title is Screw College. Got it. And my question is Looking at The

[Paul Scheer]

ending credits on my copy, a lot of names were blanked out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was wondering if we know any reason why these people opted not to be referenced. I am looking at this picture that you've taken. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is like. It's like classified document level blocked out,

[Paul Scheer]

like a redacted cast list.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wait, Paul, where did he say he found that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

On the. In his copy. Again, this is a copy that people are getting in ways that only true fans will get it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We don't know where it's all coming from. All right, I want to get a lady here. A lot of guys. Where is here? Okay, Here. All right, here's. All right. We'll get to you, too. Hold on. All right. Your name, your title, your question.

[June Diane Raphael]

My name's Laura. My title is Radical Youth. And my question is, can we get, like, an age for Lori, like, because she's dating a teenager, but then she also says she's the top BMX biker in the world and she's traveled the world. I really like to get an age on her. Yeah. I was wondering, is she. She's not a high school student?

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think so. I'm going to say she's like, 20, and he's 18. Said, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm not saying the actors are. That. I love the guy in the audience that just went, nope. I can tell you Lori Loughlin's exact age at the exact moment she was making this movie. You, sir, are wrong.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think she's meant to be a bit older.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I'm up in the balcony now.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, Paul, be careful. Be careful. The balcony is dangerous.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right. Can you come to me? I can't come to you, or I'll die. Okay, sir, your name, your title and your question.

[Paul Scheer]

My name is Martinzi.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The title is she's 20, he's 18.

[Paul Scheer]

And my question is, who is watching the sister of crew? She is just roaming around town most of the movie. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

While the mom is ironing in the bas basement.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was. But that was too. That's the age.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like that's like the town is raising that girl.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Like, I wasn't worried about her, you know?

[Paul Scheer]

But I also wouldn't be surprised if she ended up, like, being abducted on a train car and being taken somewhere. I don't know.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, she didn't make it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Definitely not.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, this sequel is not so rad for the city, sister. She passes make it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I. I just had a thought here, too. I just realized the mom had no reaction when the brother put her in a garbage can. She. Yeah, she didn't say, like, hey, stop that.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, she knows. That girl is trash.

[June Diane Raphael]

Did we ever find out how their dad died? There was some mystery surrounding that.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I agree. I suspect foul play.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, here we go.

[June Diane Raphael]

There.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like that's your name, your

[Jason Mantzoukas]

question, and then you can show me your pictures.

[Paul Scheer]

You should show me your pictures. So at one point, when Rad Racing is selling the shirts, the Monkers crew shows up in what appears to be the Corvette that is the prize for the race.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He has proof that it's. Yes. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, okay, dude.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, we would have leave you.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, why are they driving that car?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

Paul. That's a picture. That's a picture.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it's a picture. It's a picture.

[Paul Scheer]

Why do I feel like if we go to this dude's house, it's gonna be one of those red line, a wall of things, and he's like, I'll bring this, and I'll bring this. Then they'll believe me. I'll be the final question.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, I do it honestly.

[Paul Scheer]

I will.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm also doing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will not have any disagreement like they had about the cop if I bring my picture. But by the way, he's right. I guess they, like, kind of let them.

[June Diane Raphael]

They did, but I'm. I'm doing some rigorous investigation of myself because I just feel like, wow, have we presented a people up here that, like, you thought we wouldn't believe you? Like, we believe you.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'm inclined to not believe you, but I'm more scared of you that you brought the picture.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I believe that he is a member of that small town who finally is trying to get that town meeting to pull it all together again.

[June Diane Raphael]

Was that picture, like, a glossy photo or what?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was a computer printout, to be fair.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh. So this dude's like, oh, don't worry. I've got a color printer. So you know what? I take it all back. It's a fucking brag. It's a brag. He was like, I'm gonna bring my picture so that everybody knows I've got Kaiton toner at home. That's just the kind of fuck I am.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I applaud the use of a picture because it is a podcast, so.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wait, can I get house lights up once again, just. Just briefly? I'm so sorry. I just want to acknowledge everybody. If you're wearing a Rad Racing shirt, Please stand up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, we got one.

[Paul Scheer]

I like it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Two.

[Paul Scheer]

Security, get him out of here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, obviously we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm watching a film. Lovin it all. It's the thrill of a movie. They say it's bad. I say it's a ball. And I just got a comment. They're calling me stupid, saying this movie is putrid. Well, I've had enough. I'm going on to Amazon. It's my second opinion, and you know I'm gonna write it. It's the power you feel when you share your terrible feelings. I'm giving it five stars. I don't care if you don't like it. I won't take it back. Cause it's already on the Internet.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for Sarah.

[Paul Scheer]

Give it up for Sarah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was great. And if you want to hear five other ones, stay tuned for after the episode. And we'll put them all back to back there. We didn't want to cut any of them out because they're so damn good.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what's interesting? They. They just all left, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Two of them sat in the lower audience. The vast majority came from the balcony. The balcony's not afraid. Oh, no. A couple of them went over there. Guys, I'm all wrong tonight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we go. Rad Second opinions. These are cold from Amazon. Like I said, this is only available on Amazon in a bootleg version. There are only.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's always available on my computer. From here on out, I will always have it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There are only 110 reviews total because again, there's no official seller. But I will start off with this one. And it may be a little navel gazy, but why not? The title is Paul Scheer. I hope you like the movie. By Kyle from Georgia. I sent the copy I bought to Paul Shearer at. How did this get made? Hopefully they'll do an episode on it because it's one of the best movies of all time. Wait a minute. Five stars? Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

That means your name on Amazon is your own name. So anybody who sends you stuff from Amazon knows it's you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no. He. He sent it to the address that we have for the show.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

It didn't just arrive at our mom.

[Paul Scheer]

That is, if that person has your home address.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Move.

[Paul Scheer]

I wanted to hand deliver this copy of the movie. Rad. And also let you know the exact age of Lori Laughlin when she made the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This one is from Regina Regina writes husband about peed from excitement of finally being able to buy this on dvd. Thank you. Five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

That is a couple that is into water sports.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Peter F. Loder writes simply this. He watched it four times the day he got it. Five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, he said he watched it or I watched it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He watched it four times the day he got it. I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, there's not previous information.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Nope.

[Paul Scheer]

That points.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, but you're not saying.

[Paul Scheer]

What are you talking about?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, okay, hold on. The balcony's got us all mixed up.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, I swear to God. It's all balcony. It's all balcony people that write these reviews.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He also titled the review five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

So the title of the review is five stars. And then it says he watched it four times the day he got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

This review is Hunted. Sounds like a balcony monster.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And finally, I don't know if this is funny, but it's. It's intense. This is from Andrew F. And he goes, I am a huge rad fan. It was my favorite movie growing up and still is. I've seen this movie hundreds of times on VHS and on a DVD copy I bought years back. The DVD quality wasn't much better than the vhs, but at least it had a menu with chapters that I could watch on a DVD player. I have always tried to keep an eye out for a better quality DVD and was skeptical when I found this because it said HD quality. And I found that hard to believe because this movie has never been released on dvd. I figured I would give it a shot because it was only 20 bucks. Let me tell you, it's the best $20 I've ever spent. The quality is unbelievable. It looks better than some Blu Rays, no joke. I don't know how they got it to look so good, but it's well worth your money. I was telling my brother how good the movie looked and he thought I was full of it until he watched it. Ten minutes into the movie, he was like, I'm gonna go on Amazon and buy myself a car. If you are a fan of this movie, you need to buy it now. You will not be disappointed. I tip my hat to Frankie's Custom Classics. I don't know how you got the movie to look so good, but job well done. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. Thanks. Five stars.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, wow, Paul, You really embodied that gentleman.

[Paul Scheer]

That was. That was amazing.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was a transformation.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a monologue you should use, Paul. That is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, that's my contemporary monologue.

[Paul Scheer]

I Guarantee that dude A is single and B talks about rad on first dates. 100%.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, so we've said a lot about rad. I wanted to go and ask, would you recommend this movie?

[Paul Scheer]

One million percent. This. This movie. And I will say the colors were poppin. The dancing was both erotic and also romantic. Two things that I just adore. I thought the ass slides into sewage was an interesting choice, but I enjoyed it. I thought the little sister was a home run. This movie, T2B, top to bottom, was fucking rad,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's hard, you know, I know people like this. I see the numbers, I hear the response. I see the T shirts. I know that there's an audience out there for the cosplay. Yeah. There's a cult following. I don't understand it.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you think if you watched it seven more times, you would.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I mean, at a certain. Listen, this movie's not for me. It's just not anything that I care for. So I had a really difficult time watching it. I hope to never watch it again. I know I'll never drag that file over into the trash. But I did not like it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say, like that stranger whose eyes widened when they saw Bart Connor walking down the street 30 some odd years after the completion of this film. My eyes too were open to the balls out nature of this film, which I also say is rad.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, this, yeah, this, to me, this is. This sits comfortably in the pantheon of movies such as Miami Connection.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

These are movies to me that are like, cut. Not just because their T shirts are similar. The red shirt with the black text. This was a pretty spectacular film.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

100%. Here's the deal, people. There's so many people to thank here for the show. Nate Kiley, who does all of our research. Good. Good on him. Good on all the people sending me all that rad merch. You've convinced me. We did it. Hats off.

[Paul Scheer]

But also fuck you, but also fuck you on behalf of Jun and I for sending us zero merch.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And a big thank you to Avril Halley, who cut all these amazing clips and found that clip of the Olympic gymnast so, so good as we wrap up the show here because we are running a little bit late, I'll just ask, does anyone have anything they want to plug?

[Paul Scheer]

So at the end of this month, Adult Swim is going to air. June 24th at midnight. Adult Swim is going to air a special that I made with Brian Huskey, Jesse Falcon and Rob cordry. It's called Mr. Neighbor's House 2. It basically posits the idea what if David lynch created the Mr. Rogers. It is super dark and fucked up and it's very funny. So please watch that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're good. Well, I'll simply plug I have a new podcast miniseries with Amy Nicholson called Unspooled. Thank you very much. Unspooled, which you can get anywhere with podcasts. We actually watch good movies and it's been super fun to do that. Thank you, Chicago. All right, it is now time for second opinions. All right, good.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How does a badly acted cinematic pile of shit get past the studio and get green lit? How did these actors get roped into this garbage fire? Lori Loughlin. I can but come on. Really tell ya. Shire movie about bmx.

[June Diane Raphael]

Who the hell asked for this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A choreographed dance scene on bicycles. Are you serious? Cost 11 million. Pray to God it makes it back. Otherwise this thing is headed down on a hell track. Well, the word got around. They said damn, this film is real bad. All the critics hated it and said it wasn't very rapid. A few brave souls tried to save its good name so they went online

[Paul Scheer]

to earn their fame. What's your claim, man?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's my second opinion. This film deserves five stars on Amazon. But it still left me with one big question. How the did this get made? Give it up for Brian. Brian, come on over here. You stand over here.

[Paul Scheer]

That was for Lin Manuel Miranda, everybody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is now time for second opinions.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, I believe that this movie was good. I know I'm not alone. The bicycle dance was my favorite scene. It still hold ups. It's true.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Lori Loughlin.

[June Diane Raphael]

Talia Shire was great too.

[Paul Scheer]

And some guy that plays crew I

[June Diane Raphael]

got along on to Amazon to give this movie its due. BMX racing gets my heart. Pacing got a review to do, a review to do. Critics say it's bad but I love rad. Second opinion. Second opinions. Five star, five stars. Second opinion, second opinion. Five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Amazing. What's your name?

[June Diane Raphael]

Mallory.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mallory. Give it up for Mallory. Come on over here, Chicago. You got great songs. They're all long. You got them. They're great.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is now time for second opinions.

[June Diane Raphael]

Don't stop me now cause I got a strong opinion. Gonna post it online. Don't ask me how this movie even got made. This movie's a favorite of mine. All you used for spelling in my second opinion. All caps like I'm yelling. These are second opinions. Five stars on Amazon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for Brie. It is now time for second opinions.

[Paul Scheer]

Frozen in silence watching this rat flick Gotta keep my cool watching them do sweet ass tricks It's a game of wheels we're playing opinions made of steel balanced on the edges of everything I feel it's gonna take all we've got just to make it through this plot Gonna do it on Amazon and buy this crap tonight get ready to rate 5 stars. Feel like no one else agrees Topping it in all caps I'm gonna make you see only I can make it right I can rate this shit five stars tonight. Beautiful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for Jeff. Come on over here, Jeff.

[Paul Scheer]

Great commitment. He's got this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sorry, it is now time for second opinions. All right, stop.

[Paul Scheer]

It's time for second opinion. Saw red film Now I got a new mission.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie did everything so rightly. Bought the dvd, watch it daily and nightly. I gave it five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Why? I don't know. Just turn off the lights and enjoy the show. Yo, to the extreme I write reviews like I'm Cisco. This movie did it right but it failed in the fiscal sense. It's not as good as the room. Still sweeping up Razzie's like a bomb

[Jason Mantzoukas]

ass broom April Halle making clips like

[Paul Scheer]

a melody A movie this good should count as a felony. Jason and Paul here to show you the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Go balls out.

[Paul Scheer]

You know crew don't play if there

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is a plot hole. Yo, June will solve it. Check out the flick while the disc is revolving. Colin. Give it up for Colin. All right, Give it up for all.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, give it up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Second opinion, people. Thank you. Walk off the stage there.

[Paul Scheer]

Get out of here. Get out of here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What? I will say I'm sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

The other 10 second opinions are ready to go. So bring him in. Jeff Tweenie, Chance the rapper. Ken Vandermark, Chicagoans

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

Oh, joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

[June Diane Raphael]

Look on the bright side. You can finally catch up on podcasts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You don't mind running late. What's your deal?

[June Diane Raphael]

What's my deal? I saved at metro with no activation Fees. I got one line of 5G for just $25 a month. Kept the phone I love and a 5 year price guarantee for my talk text and data.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Only $25. I'm going to Metro when we hop off.

[Paul Scheer]

Get that more for your money feeling

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[June Diane Raphael]

Just bring your number. $30 first month and $25 after with autopay price guarantee exceptions apply. CSI for details.