Rock Star LIVE! w/ Jake Weisman (Classic)

Summary

How Did This Get Made? — "Rock Star LIVE! w/ Jake Weisman (Classic)"

Original Air Date: May 5, 2026
Episode Theme:
The hosts dissect the 2001 Mark Wahlberg vehicle Rock Star, a film inspired by the true story of a tribute band singer who winds up fronting his heroes’ band. In classic HDTGM style, Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas—joined by comedian Jake Weisman—roast the movie’s narrative, tone, and pacing while sharing hilarious and insightful takes live from Largo, LA. The episode also features in-depth crowd Q&A and sharp, spirited riffs on the tropes and excesses of the rock biopic genre.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening Reactions: Is "Rock Star" Even a Movie?

• Jason questions if the film qualifies as a real movie:

  "I watched this movie and I was like, this whole movie seems like a trailer for a movie that I don't care to watch." (03:34)

• Paul and June reflect on the agelessness of Jennifer Aniston and Mark Wahlberg:

  "These are ageless people. Are these... highlanders?" (04:01)

Plot Breakdown and Character Dynamics

• Basic Plot: Mark Wahlberg's character, Chris (aka Izzy), leads a tribute band and is recruited to front the actual band (Steel Dragon) he's obsessed with.
• Inspired by reality, but not too much:

  "It's loosely based on... Ripper Owens, who was pulled in to be the lead singer of Judas Priest. But it's not his story. ...Just basically heard. Did you hear that there was that dude who got put in Judas Priest. Yeah. Make out a movie. Great. Do no more research." (07:29)

• Strange Motivations: The hosts puzzle over why a movie would make its hero someone passionately unoriginal, whose dream is to perfectly imitate another band rather than create.
• Jake Weisman’s take:

  "It's kind of like telling someone they'll never be a substitute teacher... I mean, you could, but you won't." (08:56)

Setting, Age, and Career (14:00–15:30)

• Confusion reigns: Is the setting Pittsburgh, California, or Seattle? The hosts can’t keep track, and neither does the film.
• June on Aniston as the band manager:

  "Someone's gotta manage them." (15:31)

• Jason on the depths of the tribute band scene:

  "If I saw that in real life, I would watch it happen and then kill myself. Because life will never get better than that than watching...12 men fight each other." (15:57)

The Tone Problem and Unintentionally Hilarious or Problematic Scenes

• Uneven drama and comedy:

  "The tone of this movie...his parents follow him around, you know, they...move from Pittsburgh to like, tour with you." (33:44)

• Bizarre music cues:

  "It's almost reminding you, Remember what good music sounds like." (25:21)

• Paul on the on-the-nose needle drops:

  "You just Heard it three times." (24:14) "All the music cues are so obvious. All the music cues are so on the nose. There is no subtlety at all." (46:24)

Mark Wahlberg as Metal Everyman

• Paul observes Wahlberg’s unique screen presence:

  "There's something that Mark Wahlberg does that I feel like is unparalleled by any other actor, which is like, he can play, like, a lovable doofus in a...wonderful way." (10:20)

• References to his prior music career and his attempts to distance himself from Marky Mark:

  "He clearly is just doing movies where he's like, I'm not a rapper...the guy hates rap so much." (18:15)

Gender, Sexuality, and Cultural Baggage

• On-screen orgies, gender-bending, and homophobia:

  "This movie is pretty homophobic. Transphobic, every which way." (49:02)

• Lack of clarity on intention:

  "I couldn't figure out if they were kicking him out because he was gay or if he was using that against them." (49:18)

Over-the-Top Visuals: Wigs, Tongue Kissing, and Nipple Piercing

• The hosts skewer the film's hair, outfits, and constant aggressive tongue-kissing:

  "Like a shark jumping out of the water to get a pelican." (27:35)

• June groans about close-ups of "sterilized" nipple piercing:

  "No, I couldn't watch that." (55:58)

Weird Scenes and Surreal Moments

• The "pussy" press conference and British accent gags:

  "It's like, wow, they really went to town. That's that joke." (36:59)

• Jason’s signature observation:

  "This is sex. I think A Virgin directed this movie." (32:03)

• Physical comedy: Wahlberg’s wild stage fall and immediate recovery is compared to a "Jacob's Ladder scenario." (32:57)

Audience Q&A Highlights (45:00–50:00)

• Audience members (required to use British accents) ask about the band's money, oranges, the weird orgy, and Jennifer Aniston possibly being drugged.
• Memorable moment: A fan in a Steel Dragon shirt is challenged, and a raw live “Stand Up and Shout” is performed (58:00).

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Notable Quotes

• Jason on movie’s lack of creativity:

  "It's a weird movie because your hero is essentially fighting for being unoriginal." (07:29)

• June on the soundtrack:

  "I like a chorus I can hang my hat on." (26:09)

• Jake on the lack of obstacles:

  "I feel like this guy doesn't overcome anything. I feel like his parents are supportive. He wears makeup. He never gets made fun of... Like, he's not a hero." (37:25)

• Paul on the audience Q&A:

  "Let me come down to you. And tonight, if you ask a good question, or pretty much any question, you'll get a gift from our good friends at imax..." (45:37)

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Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• 03:34 – Jason: “Is it a movie, though?”
• 07:08–08:47 – Hosts debate whether the movie’s message is anti-originality.
• 13:08–13:32 – Parody of the breakup scene, mashed up with Wayne’s World.
• 26:43 – Jason’s “Chilton Academy from Gilmore Girls” deep cut.
• 32:10–33:44 – The dramatic but comically absurd stage fall.
• 36:03–37:09 – The infamous “eats a lot of pussy” press conference and mirror scene.
• 42:08 – June questions why Aniston’s character can’t manage Wahlberg’s new band.
• 49:02 – June: “This movie is pretty homophobic. Transphobic, every which way.”
• 58:00 – Audience member performs "Stand Up and Shout" live.
• 61:17–64:45 – Amazon “Second Opinions” segment with hosts in Cockney accents.
• 65:24 – Jake: "Mark Wahlberg said he could have stopped [9/11], but he couldn't save his own movie."

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Final Thoughts/Recommendations (66:55–68:03)

• Jason:

  "I would not [recommend it]. It didn't cross over into being so fun to me that it would be necessary, really to watch. You could watch it, like, you could get a taste of it, but I don't think you need to watch the whole movie."

• June: Agrees, but appreciates the chemistry and how watchable Wahlberg and Aniston are; most hosts agree the film doesn’t hit the glorious bad-movie sweet spot.
• Jake:

  "I love the movie, and I think everyone should watch it." (67:58, tongue in cheek)

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Episode Structure and Flow Overview

• 00:00–02:32: Ads, theme song, live-show intro
• 02:34–06:19: Host intros, movie selection context, opening jabs
• 06:19–20:08: Plot breakdown, character discussion, early film confusion
• 20:08–31:20: Music, tone, and problematic scenes
• 31:20–41:13: Surreal moments, press conference, audience questions
• 41:13–58:55: More crowd interaction, band trivia, Second Opinions, Amazon reviews
• 58:55–68:05: Final verdict, trivia, plugs

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Conclusion

This How Did This Get Made? episode delivers a hilarious and comprehensive roast of Rock Star, with standout commentary on the film's muddled message about creativity, its tonal insecurity, and a parade of 80s hair, music, and mishaps. The chemistry between the hosts and guest Jake Weisman is on full display, with whip-smart observations, plenty of hot takes, and lively audience participation. The group finds Rock Star not quite fun enough to be a must-see, but more than ripe for a comic takedown.

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Quote of the Episode:

“This movie is almost 20 years old and that bums me out.” — Paul Scheer (02:34)

Recommendation:
Watch the first 20 minutes for the tribute band battle, then switch to this podcast for maximum entertainment value!

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[Paul Rust]

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[June Diane Raphael]

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[Paul Rust]

lots and lots of wigs we saw rock stars so you know what that means.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Rust]

Rock a Ronstone vest while ripping Justin the Kelly or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control J man Big Paul in the beautiful June gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room Randy games the street fighter help to blow off steam just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Sharknado the birdemic how we staying alive they call it in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad Jim Varney looking kind and nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots gettin paid they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for You.

[Paul Scheer]

How did this get made?

[Paul Rust]

Hello, people of Earth. And hello people of Los Angele. We are live here at Largo, our LA home and we are so, so excited to talk to you about Tonight's movie, the 2001 classic Rockstar. Yes. This movie is almost 20 years old and that bums me out. Here to talk about that movie is my co host. Please welcome Jason Mantzoukas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's up, jerks?

[Paul Rust]

Welcome, welcome, Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How are you, Paul?

[Paul Rust]

I'm doing good.

[June Diane Raphael]

Are you?

[Paul Rust]

This? I've seen this movie twice. I watch. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have a question.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is it a movie though? I watched this movie and I was like, this whole movie seems like a trailer for a movie that I don't care to watch.

[Paul Rust]

I'd argue a bigger question. If it is a trailer, what genre is it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because I have a second question. Does Jennifer Aniston age? No. This movie. You just said this movie came out in 2001. She is identical.

[Paul Rust]

If you told me it came out last week. Yeah, try and Mark Wahlberg, Highlander. Mark Wahlberg too. These are ageless people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are these, are these people eternals? Are they the immortals? Are they highlanders? What is a Highlander?

[Paul Rust]

We will figure it out. You know, speaking of which, making her triumphant return to the podcast, please welcome our true Diane Romeo. Take it in, June.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Welcome home, June. Welcome home.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's good to be here.

[Paul Rust]

So the reason why I watched this movie twice is cause I watched it and then I watched it again with you.

[June Diane Raphael]

I've never had the experience before where I've watched a movie. I usually say things to Paul and comment and we talk a little bit. I watched this in silence.

[Paul Rust]

It's true. I was checking to making sure that you were awake at certain points.

[June Diane Raphael]

I thought I was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cause you liked it so much.

[June Diane Raphael]

I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

[Paul Rust]

You asked me some concerning questions.

[June Diane Raphael]

The one question I asked a number of times was, is this a comedy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You.

[Paul Rust]

I will say, and I don't want to spoil it for the audience, but you did say I would say it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Good.

[Paul Rust]

20 minutes.

[Jake Weissman]

In you go.

[Paul Rust]

So wait a second. He sings in a cover band? That was no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was. I hope your answer was no, babe. A tribute band. My first note is oof, this is bad. Does not bode well.

[Paul Rust]

Well, joining us tonight is a very special guest. This guy is a part of this hilarious new show on Comedy Central. It's called Corporate. It airs every Wednesday at 10pm Please welcome Jake Weissman.

[Jake Weissman]

Hi.

[Paul Rust]

Welcome, Jake.

[Jake Weissman]

Thank you for having me.

[Paul Rust]

And we were Talking backstage. You have seen, like, you saw this movie before it was assigned to you as part of a. Of this podcast?

[Jake Weissman]

Yeah, I actually have watched it twice, but the first time I didn't realize it was just two hours of watching the Guitar Hero title sequence. But, yeah, I've seen it a bunch. I mean, I love it. It's the worst movie I've ever seen. But it's hard not to love.

[Paul Rust]

It is an odd movie because it's very pure in what it's saying. I mean, so Mark Wahlberg, in this film, he is the lead of a tribute band, and the. And just to give you, like, a brief outline of the plot, and is then quickly brought into the actual band that he tributes as the lead singer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, can I ask a quick question? Is he in Pittsburgh as the lead singer of the.

[Paul Rust]

I thought this whole movie took place in California and they never left, but.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But, but. Okay, it doesn't matter.

[Paul Rust]

Keep going. Yeah, no, I think he is in Pittsburgh.

[June Diane Raphael]

He is in Pittsburgh. And they get a plane and go

[Jason Mantzoukas]

to California, end up in Seattle.

[Jake Weissman]

Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry, go ahead.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Paul Rust]

Well, anyway, basically, that's all you need to know. And it's loosely based on the. I guess this guy, Ripper Owens, who was pulled in to be the lead singer of Judas Priest. But it's not his story. It's just like a guy or gal heard that story and was like, that's a movie. And then. And didn't do any more research after that. Just like, just basically heard. Did you hear that there was that dude who got put in Judas Priest. Yeah. Make out a movie. Great. Do no more research. And then. And then the movie goes. It's a weird movie because your hero is essentially fighting for being unoriginal. Like, that's. That's where we like what we are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which his brother says to him at one point. His brother basically is like, you don't even want. It's in the trailer there. You don't even want to do your own thing. You just want to sing someone else's songs. Yes, yes, I agree with the brother

[June Diane Raphael]

and also his bandmates, who at points want to riff and like, go off and create some other songs, write their own songs. And it is a strange position we as an audience are in, which is to root for the creative force that simply wants to mimic what has already been done.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pay tribute to. His reward is you get to pay tribute to this band. By now, being in this band, it's

[Jake Weissman]

Weird, because it's kind of like it's such a lame thing to base a movie on. It's like telling someone they'll never be a substitute teacher. It's like, you won't do it. I mean, you could, but you won't.

[Paul Rust]

And again, I feel like there's a lot of things that play in this film where basically, like, you see this guy's life, and it's a sad life. He clearly lives at home with his parents past the time that is appropriate.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're making him wear this wig.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's being, by the way, though. And Listen, the first 20 minutes, this was a. Like, a loose watching for me. There were other things going on. So I say this with a grain of salt, but all of the small children in that house, were those his brothers and sisters?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought this for a while, too, but then at one point. At one point, the mother answered and says something like, sunshine childcare or something like that. And I was like, oh.

[Jake Weissman]

And there also was a gate on the stairs. And it's like, do they not let the kids up the stairs?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. Why? Dude? No kids upstairs. Wahlberg brings that kid downstairs and is like, what did I say about no kids in my room?

[Paul Rust]

And I thought it was his brother,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

but it seemed clear I did. I immediately assumed it was his son.

[Paul Rust]

They lay a lot of track in the beginning of the movie. Like, there is something. Like, there's something that Mark Wahlberg does that I feel like is unparalleled by any other actor, which is like, he can play, like, a lovable doofus in a. Like, a wonderful way. Like, I buy this guy at church. Like, I like. I'm like, yeah, he's, like, going to church. Like, he seems, like, genuinely into this band. Like, this is a scene. I'll show you the scene, the breakup scene. Because you feel for him like he here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Rust]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Tired of just being a cover band. We are not a cover band. We're a tribute band.

[Paul Rust]

No, dude, we are a cover band. The problem is we've been covering the tunes you think you're in. Goddamn Steel Dragon.

[June Diane Raphael]

I love you, man, but you're mental.

[Paul Rust]

You really are. You need to get a grip on reality, man. You don't know where Bobby Beers ends and you begin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I'm mental. I'm only mental because I don't want to be in some cheesy bar band that butchers the music people came to hear just to trap men to listen to your crappy original. The original?

[Paul Rust]

Yeah. I think Hole and a Half kicks Ass. And I'm proud of shit to have written it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Come on, guys. I mean, we started this band because we love playing Dragon tunes. We couldn't imagine playing anything else. What happened, dude?

[Paul Rust]

I thought it'd be a goof.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A goof?

[Paul Rust]

Chris, seriously, wouldn't you rather fail as yourself than succeed as some Bobby Pierce clone?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah. Well, Rob, maybe you can write me a song about why in the hell I would ever want to do that.

[Paul Rust]

All right, you're gone, man. Just go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, that's amazing. Do you think. Real question. Do you think there was somebody from HBO who watched this movie and was like, wait a minute. Okay, I want that guy as McNulty, and I want that guy, and I want that guy as Deadwood. Put these guys in two huge roles on our network.

[Jake Weissman]

Wait, I want to talk about that scene specifically, but the beginning of that scene. Because this is like a thing I see in a lot of movies where the singer finds out he's replaced by going into the practice and finding out there's a singer that looks just like him. It's like they waited for him to be right outside. They're like, okay, start playing now. You know what I mean? And so he can come in and find out that way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's on his way, guys.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, well, he, like, so he. You know, he's upset, obviously, because he doesn't want to play originals. That is the worst thing as a musician that you could possibly do to have any dreams outside of that and this movie. And I looked because I was concerned about what genre is it. It is drama.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then that I haven't updated is not.

[Paul Rust]

But then, like the next moment of that season, and I'm taking my mic stand back and I'm taking this other.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the scene from the Jerk.

[Paul Rust]

Well, as a matter of fact, Avril, who cuts all of our clips, mashed it up with Wayne's World, and it's the exact same scene from Wayne's World.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think I'm coming back. I don't. Yeah, well, that's. Cause I'm not.

[Paul Rust]

Fine, then go. I'm gone. Go. There I am.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I leave now, I'm never coming back. Okay, I'm serious. If I leave now, I'm not coming back. Go.

[Paul Rust]

I'm gone. Go there. But I am.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Never heard you the first time.

[Paul Rust]

But we. Well, well, well. So there's so much stuff to talk about before he gets into the group.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Church group. Yeah. Also, how old are he and Aniston meant to be in this world? They seem to Live. No, to be this naive. I guess he.

[Paul Rust]

And when they were shooting the movie, almost 30 for both of them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, okay.

[Paul Rust]

And. But I feel like they're playing young twenties because at one point Anderson says, like, you wrote me a song when you were 15 years old. Which means that they've either dated for like 15 years or they're like, I feel like you should be younger. I feel like you should be younger.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is that how you feel, Paul? You feel like you should be younger?

[Paul Rust]

You feel like you should be younger?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree. I agree. For the degree of how naive, for how naive they both are throughout, it seems to me to be that they would be like 22 years old. Like wide eyed, kind of like, holy cow.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's a big part of her character though, right? That she's like. She has that scene later on, spoiler alert, with Rachel Stewart in the limo where there are girls that are 22. And I think her whole, like her whole character is based on the fact that she is older. Like, I think she's meant to be. Whether or not she looks that age or whatever. I think her character is meant to be like 30.

[Paul Rust]

But I'm gonna also say her character is problematic to me in the sense that. So her job is that she's the band manager of a tribute band. Like, that's where she's at.

[June Diane Raphael]

Someone's gotta manage them.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And she is the manager of one of the two Pittsburgh based Steel Dragon tribute bands.

[Paul Rust]

And it's a band that I believe. They say we are the best in Pittsburgh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Rust]

Not like we're the best on the east Coast.

[June Diane Raphael]

They wouldn't die. Not to say that they're all wearing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When that scene happens, when they are in the parking lot after the real Steel Dragon show and they're both fliering cars and they get into a fight where each guy partners up to fight the person he's identically dressed as. That shit was crazy. If I saw that in real life, I would watch it happen and then kill myself. Because life will never get better than that than watching. Than watching 12 men fight each other.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Each of them lined up against their enemy.

[Paul Rust]

I don't have the fight. I'm sorry, but heartbreak. Yeah.

[Jake Weissman]

They.

[June Diane Raphael]

She also mentions, though. Well, I mean, we'll have to get into all of it. Their relationship, by the way, like, dissolves in within a day. Within one day of him getting this job. Like, he's literally on a walk from the car to, like the recording studio. And the 15 year relationship falls apart in that walk. But she does Say that she's going to be building a business in Portland.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Coffee shop with a friend, isn't she? She's in Seattle. I'm sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, boy.

[June Diane Raphael]

So sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We owe Portland and Seattle an apology right now.

[June Diane Raphael]

Should I leave? But what was that business? Was that the coffee shop?

[Paul Rust]

I think that when she was.

[June Diane Raphael]

How dare she call that, like, a business? It was. It was pitched as though it was like a new startup, like a real disruptor.

[Paul Rust]

But by the way. But by the way, June, it might have been because this movie took place in the 80s and obviously, Starbucks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She started Starbucks. That's the T shirt. Aniston started Starbucks.

[Paul Rust]

But, like, don't you think. Because I guess, like, spoiler alert. Like, Mark Wahlberg becomes like, eddie, you

[Jason Mantzoukas]

don't have to spoiler alert this fucking trash movie. It's unnecessary. You're welcome. If it's spoiled Eddie.

[Paul Rust]

Mark Wahlberg becomes Eddie Vedder. So, you know, like, I feel like

[Jake Weissman]

he was just like, he. Because he's a.

[Paul Rust]

Mark Wahlberg's a rapper.

[Jake Weissman]

And he. He clearly is just doing movies where he's like, I'm not a rapper. Because in this, he goes from, like, metal God to, like, Kurt Cobain who sucks. Like, he's doing anything except rapping. Like, the guy hates rap so much,

[Paul Rust]

he does not like to. He leaves that part of his life.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Rust]

And he still sucks. There's a. There's a. A moment in the. In the. The credit sequence where they. In the playback of the movie, because, you know, they have to, like, do playback where you mime to the music, and they played a Marky Mark track, and you can see his face.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, his face falls.

[Paul Rust]

Go fuck yourself. And then they put it in the movie, so it's really aggressive. It's like, remember that bit that you didn't like on set that we did? It's in the movie. Now.

[Jake Weissman]

The other weird thing about that scene when he's like, the Kurt Cobain dude of the Eddie Vedder is he walks off stage in the middle of the song, and I think he's, like, addicted to that.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, he never finishes.

[Jake Weissman]

He doesn't finish songs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like, I'm gonna go talk to Emily. And he walks off, and they don't even solo. Nobody even, like, fills the space with a solo. They just vamp. They just vamp with the same melody they've been playing, just without vocals. Now, if you were go. If you had paid money to see that concert, you would be like, fuck this. You'd be like, wait a minute. Where's he going. Where's he going? Oh, okay. Oh, he's. Oh, he's talking to that woman. Okay, do you think he's gonna. Do you think he's gonna go back and sing the rest of the song? I don't know. He's still talking to that woman over there. Okay, what do you think? Well, is the guy playing a guitar solo? No, he's just vamping. Okay. Is he gonna. What are we doing? Should we leave? What's happening? He's still talking to the woman who's wearing an enormous knit shawl.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

to you

[June Diane Raphael]

a few times, Paul. Like, do I. Is this a real song? Like, is this.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is this a song that I've heard before? Well, this is a real one.

[Paul Rust]

June said it to me the third time the same song was played. She goes, no, this is a real song. I like this song. And I said, though, you just Heard it three times.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's all it takes for you to like a song.

[June Diane Raphael]

I like it. I've heard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did you buy this soundtrack? Why do I feel like you bought this soundtrack after you watched the movie?

[June Diane Raphael]

It's good music. I recognize it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, I will say this. I will say this. When Talking Head started playing in this movie, I lost my mind.

[Jake Weissman]

It's so literal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, how on earth did they license this?

[Paul Rust]

But I would say, why on earth would you license the Talking Heads for a movie about metal? Like, to show the passage of time. They make a couple of weird music.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know.

[Paul Rust]

Maybe it's a language of film thing that I don't understand. But it's like you're making a movie about people in the music industry that are making a specific type of music. But then you use Bon Jovi Talking Heads, so it's like, oh, I like that other stuff way better. And that's not the music that you're even doing. So it's a weird thing do to pull you out with a more famous type of music. That's not the music that you're even talking about.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, no.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's almost saying. It's almost reminding you, Remember what good music sounds like.

[June Diane Raphael]

In the beginning of the movie, I said to Paul, I guess I did say a lot of things. I wasn't as silent as I thought I was. But I did say to Paul, like, ugh, I can't believe I'm gonna have to listen to this music the whole movie. Like, it was such a bummer for me to realize that this is the music. Cause it's not music. It's not what I call music.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, it's not? What do you call music, Jim?

[Paul Rust]

You released four albums called now that's not what I call Music. And it's just. You just. It's just tracks that you don't like,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

and it's you introing each song. Now, this is not what I would call music.

[June Diane Raphael]

I like to know. I like a chorus I can hang my hat on. I like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What kind of hat is it that you're hanging to, like, a jaunty cap? An Amy Sherman Palladino nonsense hat? What kind of hat are we talking about? I will say. I will say Dominic West McNulty, who I will only call McNulty. McNulty's house in this movie is anybody. Chilton Academy and Gilmore Girls.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow, that's a deep cut.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pretty great.

[June Diane Raphael]

Pretty good, by the way. I thought he was incredible in this movie. I thought he was great. I thought he was great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You thought he was incredible in this movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

I did. I did. There was a lightness to him that I haven't seen him do. I enjoyed him. I enjoyed him. And listen, here's the thing. Jen an and Mark Wahlberg are so goddamn watchable.

[Paul Rust]

100%.

[June Diane Raphael]

They are so watchable. And they had a chemistry that could not be denied.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Absolutely. There was.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was there for it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Deep tongue kissing in this movie, I feel like they.

[Jake Weissman]

They all led with the tongue. Like, the tongue came out of the mouth first before the lips hit every single time. Like that was the rule.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like a shark jumping out of the water to get a pelican before he.

[Jake Weissman]

In that sort of everyone is dancing scene, it was all tongue first. It was all just a bunch of tongues out. It was. I didn't know that's how you kiss, but I've adopted it since

[June Diane Raphael]

the best part of the morning. After that dancing scene, I'm always. I see this in movies. The orgy. Yeah, the massive orgy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Post orgy.

[June Diane Raphael]

I see this in movies and I'm always curious about it. And maybe I'm the one that's off. But the scene opens with Jennifer Aniston waking up and then realizing, like, she doesn't know where she is. And then looking. Yes, looking into her sheets. But I've seen this before in other movies. Like, looking into her sheets to see what she's wearing.

[Jake Weissman]

Or I thought it was like those.

[June Diane Raphael]

She couldn't feel it. Like, that's what I'm curious about. Like, I would never.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love it if she looked down, pulled the sheets down, and was just wearing a man's tuxedo. Like, oh, no, what have I done? Not too bad, not too bad. Tails, white tie. Don't mind.

[Paul Rust]

Like, that's a pet. That's what happens to you. Like when you have an orgy. Then a little orgy creature comes in, puts different outfits on you, all leprechaun. Cool. All right, what did I get?

[June Diane Raphael]

It's as though. It's as though these people are not in their own bodies to simply feel the clothing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It also presumes situational amnesia.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When you wake up, even after a night of hard partying and drinking and poor sexual decisions, you still kind of know what's up. Instead. It's kind of like. Everywhere she goes, she is genuinely shocked, as if she has been unconscious for 10 hours.

[Jake Weissman]

I also like that the way they got into that orgy was Mark Wahlberg had two drinks, and then he's like, Hollywood Is crazy. I'm gonna fuck 3,000 people in one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, Jen Aniston in this photo is like, oh, shit. Did I fuck the guy wearing chainmail

[Paul Rust]

who did not take off the chainmail?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did I fuck the guy wearing chain mail? Chain mail.

[Paul Rust]

Not a comfortable thing to fall asleep in or I imagine, have sex in,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

by the way, a very noisy shirt slink. It's like, imagine a slinky back and forth. That. That's the noise of fucking the guy wearing chainmail.

[Paul Rust]

Come on. Why?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Her makeup and hair still perfect, Flawless.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was upset that when that orgy scene began, there were two beautiful women who came over to both of them. And then they sort of turned. They both turned to Mark Wahlberg. And then like a grosso, like, blond tipped, fucking weird guy came over to Jennifer Aniston and started grinding on her. I was like, what the fuck?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then they all.

[June Diane Raphael]

She gets this guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They all kind of kept changing partners, though.

[June Diane Raphael]

Thank God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Switching.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, yeah. That blonde guy and the blonde guy. Not established.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, there's a lot of, like, neck.

[June Diane Raphael]

So much junk.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, I loved it. This is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is like. This is not sexual.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's just open mouth.

[Jake Weissman]

It's like how they kiss in Pittsburgh, I think.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, be careful, Jake. Pittsburgh is listening. He like. All the kissing is. I felt like they were just doing playback, playback. And the director was just shouting, kiss grosser. Kiss gross. Remember, you're drunk. Kiss grosser.

[Paul Rust]

More neck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

More.

[Paul Rust]

Rub his neck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Open your mouth wider if possible. Try to envelop him.

[Paul Rust]

Swallow him. Like, eat her chin like a praying mantis. Eat them alive.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Swallow her face. Swallow his face.

[Paul Rust]

Rip his tongue out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is sex. I think A Virgin directed this movie

[Paul Rust]

the way that. This movie. When he finally. When he gets called up. When he gets called up to the big leagues to be the lead singer of Steel Dragon, he has a. A pretty amazing intro into the band. Like, he walks off the. Like walks down the platform. And then the most amazing slow mo sequence of a fall that you think, oh, the movie. This character's dead. Or it's gonna take a. Regarding Henry esque turn where we're gonna

[Jason Mantzoukas]

be like, oh, shouts to J.J. abrams.

[Paul Rust]

But it's like he takes a fall, like two steps. Falls about 12ft on his head.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no. He falls in a way that is irreparable.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, irreparable.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You would. You know, I don't wanna say the rest of the movie's a Jacob Ladder scenario. Has there been a more obvious Jacob's Ladder scenario than the Visible death That we watch like, this might as well be a snuff film for Mark Wahlberg's character.

[Paul Rust]

And then when he goes down, he immediately then pops back up. Doesn't miss a beat of the song. Sings it bloody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, the song's lyric is, do you want blood or show me blood? Like, blood is in the lyric of the song.

[Paul Rust]

Apparently, he got lucky.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He got lucky. Classic.

[Paul Rust]

But, yeah, that scene is so, so bizarre.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Paul Rust]

He is fully bleeding from the head. Then he grabs a hose, pretends it's a dick, and then, like, wets down a lot of the audience.

[June Diane Raphael]

This is what's so weird with the tone of the movie, though. Like, his. So the. His parents follow him around, you know, they. They, I guess, move from Pittsburgh to, like, tour with you.

[Paul Rust]

They can fly out to see a show.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I know. I know they can.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, boy. But I'm saying, like it almost.

[June Diane Raphael]

But then you also see them partying at one point. Like, it. The tone of this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're allowed to party.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right. Wow, you're really advocating for, like, older parents whose kids are out of the house.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Remember when they insinuate that the dad loves eating pussy?

[Paul Rust]

Yes, that insane.

[June Diane Raphael]

Insane,

[Paul Rust]

that thing. All right, so at the press conference. Conference. We should just show the press conference. This is. This is like, to me, this feels like an improv scene because it's a throwaway line that then they're like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a short form game called press conference.

[Paul Rust]

Well, no, but like. Like, like the throwaway line. Well, you'll. We'll see. Like, here, like, so here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Izzy.

[Paul Rust]

Is that your name? Izzy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You had a name. Sucked Izzy. Like, Izzy's Revenge. Izzy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not. Why does he affect a British accent for only that line?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, you'll never hear that again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Never again.

[Paul Rust]

No. And, like, when he's on stage, he doesn't even try. He goes, I grew up in Pittsburgh and I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With these guys on the wall.

[Paul Rust]

Like, it's like it's gone. But is he Izzy or is he not? Like, because his name is not Izzy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, is he. Is he or is he not?

[Jake Weissman]

Doesn't he also at some point make Jennifer Aniston call him Izzy? Refer to him as Izzy. Yeah, because that's two movies where he insists on being called by another name. I feel like there was a lot of Boogie Nights in this movie, but it's like, five times worse.

[Paul Rust]

This is like the trial run for Boogie Nights. Yeah, it was like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, this guy's hair is a real problem.

[Paul Rust]

So I. I think we're coming up to the thing here. So here you go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Keep your voice and set. Great shape. Oh, Ms. Reed, my choir teacher, she don't always give me some really cool exercises. Eats a lot of pussy.

[Paul Rust]

That sounds.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, I eat a lot of pussy.

[Jake Weissman]

What channel is that?

[June Diane Raphael]

We're like father, like son.

[Jake Weissman]

Like, how are they watching a press conference?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She said, like father, like son.

[Paul Rust]

And then you go, okay, that's weird. And then they continue it. The next scene, Jennifer Aniston's like, don't make. I'm gonna make you an honest man. Like, so you're not gonna lie about eating a lot of pussy? Cause you'll eat my pussy. And then the next scene, he's in the mirror going like, are you little pussy? Are you little pussy? Are you a little pussy? And then Jenner's like, hey, stop talking about it. Come on in here and do it. It's like, wow, they really went to town. That's that joke.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's his, like, you talking to me moment. That's his Taxi driver scene is like, practicing, I eat a lot of pussy. I eat a lot of. Of pussy.

[Paul Rust]

But he would never need to practice that line because he never uses the accent. There you go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry. His parents. By the way, isn't it nice that his parents support him? I really. I like that his parents were supportive.

[Jake Weissman]

I feel like this guy doesn't overcome anything. I feel like his parents are supportive. He wears makeup. He never gets made fun of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, it's like, he's not a hero.

[Jake Weissman]

He's just, like, a really privileged. He wears makeup in Pittsburgh, and people are fine with it.

[Paul Rust]

And when he wears makeup, like, the. The again, it feels like an almost scene. Like he's repairing the toner on a copier. And the guy goes, is that makeup? He goes, yeah, I'm in a band. He was like, end of scene. No, no.

[Jake Weissman]

But they also.

[Paul Rust]

No take on that. Know anything. It's like, oh, misunderstanding.

[June Diane Raphael]

Most movies, genuine misunderstanding.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah.

[Jake Weissman]

They also pull up to a truck and in tons of makeup and long hair, and they sing to these, like, steel workers. And the guys are like, this is totally normal. This is the town we live in. And I'm fine with it. And I don't hate you. I live in an America that has never existed. I also feel. Can we talk about the hair? Cause I feel like it's the most hair that's been in any movie.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, it's. It's aggressive hair. It's almost as if, like, there's a competition. Like, that's Their wig. I want mine to look like an Elizabethan wig. It was like, it just like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I feel like everybody got to choose who they wanted to be. I feel like McNulty was like, I want Brian May hair from Queen. Give me giant crazy hair.

[Paul Scheer]

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[June Diane Raphael]

Here's my okay. The other question I have about her career though. So if she starts off as a as his manager was why couldn't she continue to manage him? Like wouldn't that be a huge career move for her to manage this huge rock star?

[Paul Rust]

Well, I feel like they already have those positions filled,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

but I was confused too. Like once she's slotted into like they they kind of put it Tim Spall is the band's manager and he's like well the wives they ride in that limo over there. No wives on the thing. Whatever, whatever. Like she doesn't get a storyline that is like well I'm his manager. Like you're the band's manager. Like there is no like for her moment of like, well no, this is my job. You know, she is just relegated to that and wife position.

[Jake Weissman]

That part was so weird because that was the how did I get here montage and it insinuated that years were passing or like that a long time was passing. So she rode in that shitty little car with all those blonde women for years.

[Paul Rust]

And by the way, you told me this for years and it seemingly got the COVID of this same magazine like seven times.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you told me this movie took place over the course of seven years, I would believe you.

[June Diane Raphael]

The interesting thing about the the limo scene was that they kept on, they kept on alluding to all this fun she could have if she wanted to. What did that mean?

[Paul Rust]

Like she could around too?

[June Diane Raphael]

Is that all it meant? Like you can other guys here we Go.

[Paul Rust]

And I have some interesting facts about this.

[June Diane Raphael]

It comes with the territory. And, I mean, you can either drive yourself batty trying to change it or you can simply adapt.

[Paul Rust]

You gotta let them off the leash

[June Diane Raphael]

for a bit of a romp every

[Paul Rust]

once in a while.

[June Diane Raphael]

Otherwise they get a little cranky, you know? Besides, at the end of the day, they always come home. And who's to say that you can't have your own fun?

[Paul Rust]

Exactly.

[June Diane Raphael]

Here's some advice for me.

[Paul Rust]

Number one, learn to shoot.

[June Diane Raphael]

Number two, get very close with his accountant. And number three, don't sign anything, even if it's not typed.

[Paul Scheer]

I had to learn that the hard way.

[Paul Rust]

Now, what makes this scene interesting is that all three of these women are actual wives of rock stars. Rachel Hunter was married to Rod Stewart and was in a relationship with Kip Winger, who was in Alice Cooper's band Heidi. Mark was married to Vince Neil. And Carrie Stevens was the girlfriend of the Kiss drummer, Eric Carr. So they all are playing versions of themselves, which makes it a little bit.

[Jake Weissman]

This movie did not need to get meta, you know what I mean?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, it's a little bit of a waste,

[June Diane Raphael]

but I would love to follow that Rachel Hunter character.

[Paul Rust]

Rachel Hunter?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I guess. Just Rachel Hunter.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just follow her on Twitter.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, is it that easy?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think so.

[Paul Rust]

All right, it is. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Interesting thing about this movie was Brad Pitt was supposed to play the lead and he dropped out due to creative differences.

[Jake Weissman]

I like to think of Mark, the character he plays in this movie, as. As the guy Rachel dated after Ross but before Brad.

[Paul Rust]

Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what they have to say about this movie. All right, let me come down to you. And tonight, if you ask a good question, or pretty much any question, you'll get a gift from our good friends at imax, who one day I showed up to work and I have boxes of IMAX shit. So thank you. Imax. Okay. Yes. Right over here. And ask the question in your best British accent. Okay. And we've seen what's happened in the movie, so just try it. It doesn't have to work. 100%.

[Jake Weissman]

So, okay.

[Paul Rust]

Your name?

[June Diane Raphael]

It's Candy.

[Paul Rust]

Okay, Candy, ask your question. British accent. Go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Can we talk about how after the British accent pussy conversation he has with himself in the mirror, the song is Lick it up by Kiss.

[Paul Rust]

Amazing. Amazing. That was great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're awesome.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All the music cues are so obvious. All the music cues are so on the nose. There is no subtlety at all.

[Paul Rust]

Sir, your name?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Greg.

[Paul Rust]

Greg Your question in a British accent. Go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

First of all, I have a little something.

[Paul Rust]

Okay, great. In a British accent. Okay, I got a little something for

[Jason Mantzoukas]

you, Paul and Jason. I have the movie that shall not be named, a Jacob's Ladder.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, an actual Jacob's ladder toy. Oh, thank you so much.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you so much. So I have a question. At the end when he leaves the band and just walks off stage, where'd the money go? He seems to be hitchhiking home.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, they didn't pay for a return flight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hitchhiking home with a guitar he has never played and will never play. He's not a guitarist, by the way.

[Paul Rust]

I just want to point out that this gentleman is wearing a steel dragon shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, where did you.

[Paul Rust]

Amazing. Wait, is that homemade or. Where'd you find that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait a. Don't applaud this.

[Paul Rust]

Why Is that homemade, or did you find that online? Wow. All right. Get your steel dragon shirt, your name, and your question. In a bridge.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm Eloise. Can I please not do it?

[Paul Rust]

Try. Just try it. Just try it. Just try it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You got this, Eloise.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so I. I'm not. But okay, so Jennifer Aniston drinks a drink before the orgy scene and then is, like, stumbling around and, like, the creepy manager dude is like, gravity doesn't exist here. And was she drugged?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Was she rupee? I thought the same thing.

[Paul Rust]

I thought they did. I thought.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we go. I thought they did roofied as well.

[Paul Rust]

Let me go over here for a second. That was a good question. Here. What do we got?

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Paul Rust]

What do we got? All right.

[Jake Weissman]

Yes.

[Paul Rust]

You.

[Jake Weissman]

All right.

[Paul Rust]

Your name?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, don't not raise your hands because you don't want to do a British accent. Raise your hand. Be brave, audience. Be brave.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right, My name's Brittany. My question is, I don't know what this accent is, but they have the orgy, right? Mark Wahlberg wakes up the next day, he walks in, the girl is peeing standing up. What the fuck?

[Paul Rust]

We need to talk about it again at the very. Here you go. Here's your glasses. There you go. All right, so obviously, question. It was just like, what happened there?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, she had a dick.

[Paul Rust]

All right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, look this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Were you confused on that?

[June Diane Raphael]

This movie is pretty homophobic. Transphobic, every which way.

[Jake Weissman]

But also, like, the band kicks out the. The singer for being gay, but then is very, very progressive on trans issues, which was so confusing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I couldn't figure out if they were kicking him out because he was gay or if he was using that against them. I couldn't figure that whole conversation and

[Jake Weissman]

then he's like Irish dancing at the end, as if that's a gay thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was also.

[Jake Weissman]

Michael Flaherty is a virulent heterosexual man.

[Paul Rust]

I just thought.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Flatley.

[Jake Weissman]

Michael Flatley.

[Paul Rust]

Really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jake Weissman]

He's super, super straight. Trust me.

[Paul Rust]

Yes, sir. Your name and your question in British.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Damon. And on that same point, why is this a world where only gay people don't have big hair? And that's his big secret, is I'm gay, therefore there's always a wig. Even though I have a perfectly healthy, full head of hair, I couldn't grow it out because I'm really gay.

[Paul Rust]

Great point. I'm going to get you an imax.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, good point, good point.

[Paul Rust]

All right, one more question. One more question. If you're British, you definitely get to ask a question. You're British in the back, actually. Actually from Britain. And you British. All right, come forward. All right, you can come forward. All right, I'll say. All right, let's just. Let's see a real Brit. Here we go. Hi. How are you? All right, I got your name and your question, Kylie.

[June Diane Raphael]

And my question, Kylie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know you. You're not British.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kylie.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, not Kylie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're getting the mic.

[Paul Rust]

I love the mic, though.

[June Diane Raphael]

Very happy with the mic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kylie. I know you.

[Paul Rust]

Kylie. She's not British, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's not British. She's a lovely individual.

[June Diane Raphael]

I do want to, like, have a couple more people stand up to figure out if they're really British or not.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah. Okay, here's the challenge. Who can trick us into thinking they're actually British?

[Paul Rust]

They want line.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kylie, you blew it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Also, Kylie's already not British.

[Paul Rust]

All right, so say. All right, ma'. Am. One line.

[June Diane Raphael]

One line. Hello. I have one absolute small question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Nope.

[Paul Rust]

Nope.

[Jake Weissman]

It was pretty good.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was pretty good. I need one more line. I need one more line. Do you have a specific line you

[Jason Mantzoukas]

want me to say or just.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're not British. You're not British.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right.

[Paul Rust]

These guys are dressed like Steel Panther, by the way. Amazing. All dressed as Steel Panther.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Steel Dragon.

[Paul Rust]

Steel Dragon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you think that when Timothy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, no, I don't think.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think.

[Jake Weissman]

This British chest feels racist. And I love it.

[Paul Rust]

I hold it. I'll hold my.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cheer up, Chomp.

[Jake Weissman]

It might never happen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. Totally British. Totally British.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was real. That was crazy real.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You did it.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ladies and gentlemen, Prince Harry.

[Paul Rust]

So this character that Mark is playing at one Point he gets upset at the time on the road, whether it's a week, seven years, a month. We don't know how long it's been. And then he replaces himself on stage effortlessly. He's like, you can do this. Great. Get up here later.

[Jake Weissman]

That's the weirdest way. Like, it's so easy to be in that band. You just have to go to the front of the stage and just scream. And then they're like, yeah, that's fine. Like, it's not hard to be in the band at all.

[Paul Rust]

And the fact that the audience is, like, kind of okay with it. Yeah, works. Works for us.

[Jake Weissman]

They're on so much heroin, they don't care.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it really is. The idea of, like, oh, the interchangeability of these lead singers is like, oh, I guess anybody can do this.

[Paul Rust]

But that's not a thing. That's literally not a thing that happens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That guy's never played these songs live before with this band.

[Jake Weissman]

It's also like, I feel like at that moment, it's supposed to be, like, this really cool thing that Mark Wahlberg is doing for the guy, but it's like. Like the guy who introduces you to smoking when you're eight. You know what I mean?

[Paul Rust]

Like, it's like, this is.

[Jake Weissman]

They just ruined this life. Like, this guy is going to kill himself in, like, two years.

[Paul Rust]

It's like, you can replace me because I'm miserable.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm like, yeah, Jake, who introduced you to smoking at 8? That is a.

[Jake Weissman]

A British person.

[Paul Rust]

No, come on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Those people in those world.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, no. This interview with Jennifer Anis, that made me laugh because you'll see what is happening. She was dating Brad Pitt at the time. That's why the. The interviewer asked her about Brad Pitt. So here you go. Did Brad give you any advice to play this. To play this role?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, you know, there's all sorts of. I can't say he sat down and gave me advice, but he definitely talked me through just sort of her sensibilities, you know, which we kind of. I figured out sort of anyway, which was just not knowing because there wasn't much of a part there. So I didn't know how to elevate it. You know, I didn't know what its purpose was, except that once I figured out that she was sort of, you know, I mean, once we developed the character, because there was really nothing at first. And then she sort of became the audience's perspective, which I just think is fun that you wasn't much of a part there.

[Paul Rust]

She's not Wrong. She's great, though.

[June Diane Raphael]

She is.

[Paul Rust]

I would watch this movie. Like, that's what this movie is.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, this movie I like.

[Paul Rust]

When we picked it, I was like, I've seen this on tbs. This is fine. Like. And when you just have to sit and watch the whole thing, I would

[Jason Mantzoukas]

argue she is the most interesting character in this movie.

[Jake Weissman]

100.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie. If it was from her perspective more than anybody else. Else is.

[Paul Rust]

Well, she's the only one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hang on. I didn't need one single person to applaud through that.

[Paul Rust]

The only thing that I. The only thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was me. No, no, no. Don't say that. Wasn't what I was doing. What's wrong with you people? More of you need to leave.

[Paul Rust]

She's obviously. She's the smartest, most developed character. Ultimately, she has a plan. She has a job. She's getting forward. And she's like, you know what? I don't like this lifestyle. I'm gonna open up my coffee shop and start a fucking trend in America with independent coffee shops.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And if that falls apart, I'll just pierce people's nipples.

[Jake Weissman]

Nipples.

[Paul Rust]

That nipple piercing scene was not fun for me.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I couldn't watch that.

[Paul Rust]

It was too many.

[June Diane Raphael]

Close. Sterilized. No. Huh?

[Paul Rust]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He definitely got an infection in more ways than one in this movie. I for real feel like it. The line should have been like, when he's playing in the.

[Paul Rust]

Well, I won't even play the whole thing because it's really visual. But the. I will just say that this is the. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of tongue, but this is what I don't want to see. Close up on needle in the liquor. And then here we go. Hold on one second. We don't have to get that close. We don't need it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you know either. You know, that's not Mark Wahlberg. So, you know, they're like, does anybody want to get their nipple pierced today? And some grip was like, I'll do it.

[Paul Rust]

So then they do it. They get the nipple, then they cut away. They cut away from this. Sorry, June. Right. Cut away. And then as soon as you think, oh, it's over, thank God, boom, right back in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which is, by the way, like a paperclip. Like a twisted up paper clip is what she puts in.

[Paul Rust]

It looks so hot. So painful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yes, painful. I agree with Paul. Painful. I don't mean hot.

[Paul Rust]

Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. You know, I'm Just a normal guy. I grew up with posters of these guys on my wall,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And now I'm one of them. Stand up and shout. Stand up and shout.

[June Diane Raphael]

Five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five stars. Five stars for Mark and Mark.

[June Diane Raphael]

Fastest, fastest, fastest.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Don't know what you want or what

[Paul Rust]

you're thinking I can change your taste in movies.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Read my Amazon and you will see Opinions are all you'll ever get from me. Roll out review.

[June Diane Raphael]

Five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five stars. This fucking movie rules.

[June Diane Raphael]

Five stars. Five stars. Five star. Amazing.

[Paul Rust]

Amazing. That was unbelievable. What's your name? Ryan. Ryan. Well, here we go. Here's a book by our friend Scott C. And you can have that and have a seat. Thank you so much.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Good job, Ryan. Holy cow. Wow. Here's the thing. I. I would ask now our audience to take that raw vocal track and put music to it.

[Paul Rust]

That was pretty fucking impressive. And that guy was nervous to come up, like, I think I got something. Meanwhile, he had a fucking whole act worked out flawlessly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, Ryan, like, sat like a fucking gentleman, waited until nobody raised their hand, then was like, fine, I'll fucking do it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, I'm like looking at you four dudes dressed like Steel Dragon who were like, let's dress up but not prepare a song. You blew it, dummies.

[Paul Rust]

Well, Here we go. 502 reviews for this film. 50% five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

50% are five stars.

[Paul Rust]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Holy shit.

[Paul Rust]

So this one is called my all time favorite rock and roll movie by Rick Brunson. Having spent a number of years on the road with an American hard rock band, Reed, White Snake, Def Leppard, Van Halen, I was blown away by the authenticity of Rockstar. In particular, the characters were believable and authentic. Read, egocentric, self absorbed, with a dash of charisma. The film is an accurate depiction of how it really is headlining and living the life. For those of you who lived or want to experience the edgy, in your face, hardcore era, this is it. Five stars. And by the way, a majority of these. These reviews express a very similar sentiment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So all of them are written from people who are in bands?

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, a lot are like, I'm being not. That's not. Yeah, a lot are. This one's written by G. Madison. What can I say? Excellent movie. Mark Wahlberg. Excellent. FYI, when I submitted my first review, it was based on the TV version. Now that I've seen the uncut DVD version, I want to say I don't care for the raunchy, vulgar, sexually related terms like the P, the D And the F word. I know that doesn't bother many others. And I know those terms are used in many R rated movies and they should be expected in a movie about a rock band. But I just want to make it clear that I don't care for that. Aside from that though, an Excellent movie. 5 stars.

[Jake Weissman]

What else was there besides that in the movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The version he watched was 45 minutes long.

[Paul Rust]

This is from AI Baruti. As one who fully accepts that you are what you desire and act upon, this movie hits the spot. Not only is it about more than music, as alluded to, it is about life itself. Life in the sense that we all have a secret, and sometimes not so secret dream that we all hold within. More often than not, such a dream goes unrealized. Perhaps this will be lost on some. Then again, maybe not. But live your life and you will feel me. Defer not your dreams, for they are the very thing that can and will and do guide the ship that you call your life. Five stars. I would bet.

[Jake Weissman]

I would bet my life that Wahlberg wrote that review himself.

[Paul Rust]

This one. This one right here. This is just a one liner. This is from Randy Given. I see many movies of this genre. Although movies like Almost Famous have won more awards, this movie is my favorite. It's more honest. Five stars. Almost Famous, Written by someone who actually was on the road with no big deal. Okay, D. Roush writes this. Yep, that's right. With Rockstar, a film where he went to take a piss is the ultimate catchphrase. Not all the cliches in the world can stop it from being a really deep drama. Half of you probably think I'm on crack. Oh, well, I'm not. By the way, With the vehicle for this rite of passage themed story being heavily dipped in 80s excess, many people trash this movie despite its somewhat tongue in cheek satirical treatment. But you know what? You're missing the point of the film. What is life about? Yes folks, that is the question. And a little movie called Rockstar left me pondering that as I exited the theater and more recently, when I turned off the DVD player. Five stars. And then this one should be read in a cockney British accent. Well, anyone want to take a shot at that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You made everybody else do it.

[Paul Rust]

All right, I'll say it like this. Bloody hell, mate. This flick is tops, man. Long live Steel Dragon and Stand up and shout. A must for any music lover. Five stars. There we go. Those are our five star reviews.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way. That was a great. That was a great rendition to stand up and Shout.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah. Really solid, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love it if that became your karaoke songs.

[Paul Rust]

Clean up. I lost.

[Jake Weissman]

There was one more piece of trivia I just wanted to say. When I googled this movie, I went to the Wikipedia page and the movie came out September 7, 2001,

[Paul Rust]

which was

[Jake Weissman]

four days before 9 11, which Mark Wahlberg said he could have stopped, but he couldn't save his own movie. So I doubt it. And I think it's a beautiful part about this movie's history. Go to Wikipedia. It's real.

[Paul Rust]

Just a couple of quick facts about the movie. The tagline is the story of a wannabe who got to be. And also, it was made for 57 million. And. Yes. And it made 17. I do believe that the 911 probably affected that. And $57 million. $57 million.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

American.

[Paul Rust]

This is made in. Yeah, American dollars. And here, if you were following with us this movie, the top three movies of the year were Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Lord of the Rings and Shrek. And this movie. This movie came out 108th in all the movies that came out the. And it was beaten by a movie that we did called Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles. But however, it beat on the line, a movie that we did with the NSYNC kids and glitter, so it didn't fall to the bottom of the track.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There was that hubcap and turkey sandwich.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, that was on the line. So there we go. Any other final thoughts on Rockstar?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I didn't care for it.

[Paul Rust]

Oh, yeah, That's a good question. Would you recommend it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would not. I would not. It didn't cross over into being so fun to me that it would be necessary, really to watch. You could watch it, like, you could get a taste of it, but I don't think you need to watch the whole movie.

[Paul Rust]

I feel like when I watch a trailer, I was like, oh, yeah, I

[Jason Mantzoukas]

got that movie pretty much. You know, it's kind of.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't think it's necessary to watch.

[Paul Rust]

How about the soundtrack from. What's that soundtrack, June?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would argue before he gets into Steel Dragon, like, the battle of the Steel Dragon tribute bands is more interesting to me than anything else.

[Paul Rust]

I hear that.

[Paul Scheer]

Jake.

[Jake Weissman]

What do you think this is just one random thing. Why did it have bookends of documentary footage? That was another weird thing. It's like, this isn't a documentary and it's not cool. Stop.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah, it felt like that was a half idea that they were like, oh, but, yeah, let's forget that. Like, yeah, it Was like. It really is. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

There's no other.

[Jake Weissman]

What are we talking about here? Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know.

[Jake Weissman]

I love the movie, and I think everyone should watch it.

[Paul Rust]

So, Jake, you have a hot take.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hot take. Jake.

[Paul Rust]

Jake. So your show, which you created, Corporate, is on Comedy Central. It's really funny. How would you describe it? I mean, it's like, I feel like the most realistic version of corporate cubicle America kind of show.

[Jake Weissman]

Yeah, it's kind of like Office Space meets American Psycho. And basically it's like how. You know how most offices. You know how like, even you're at this job right now and it's a really great job, but you still want to die. That's kind of what everyone feels at every job. That's what the show's about.

[Paul Rust]

And it's got a great cast. It's on Wednesday nights, but you can

[Jake Weissman]

watch it on the Comedy Central [e-mail] at any time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, perfect.

[Paul Rust]

June, what would you like to plug?

[June Diane Raphael]

I will plug Grace and Frankie because the fourth season is streaming right now, so you can watch that.

[Paul Rust]

Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I got nothing. Although I will say. I will say, and we've plugged this before, but I will say Paul and I did another episode of the Chris Gethard Show. Oh, yeah, it's on TruTV. I don't know how to watch it at this point, but in the first two minutes of the show, Chris Gethard abandons his own talk show and leaves Paul and I holding the hat for an hour long. Live television.

[Paul Rust]

We had nothing scripted, nothing to do. We had no. We had. No one told us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We didn't know what was gonna happen. We didn't know he was leaving. Yeah, and we fucking crushed it.

[Paul Rust]

We killed it. We brought a tortoise out there. We brought the entire audience on the street. It's good. And I would say it's worth the money. Money to just buy it on an itunes or something.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If it exists on itunes, I would say buy it.

[Paul Rust]

Yeah. It's called the Chris Gethard Show. Thank you so much for coming out tonight. A big thank you to everyone who helps make this show possible. Avril Halle, who puts together all those amazing clips. She has a show called Movie Bitches on YouTube. July Diaz is up in the booth. Nate Kiley does all of our research. Kelly, Alto, puts this whole thing together.

[Paul Scheer]

Kyle Waldron, Largo.

[Paul Rust]

Everybody here at Largo, everybody. Earwolf. Thank you guys so much. See you again. Bye. Bye.

[Paul Scheer]

That's the show, but it doesn't end here. Listen to our mini episode where the

[Paul Rust]

discussion about this movie continues. Also, if you like how did this

[Paul Scheer]

get made and you want to wear

[Paul Rust]

it or put it as a sticker or have it as a cell phone

[Paul Scheer]

case, head over to teepublic stores hdtgm

[Paul Rust]

teepublic.com stores hdtgm and you can check out all of our amazing merch like Put her in a Bra or the Jason Zardoz shirt which I particularly love.

[Paul Scheer]

A big thanks to Kelly Al, Avril, Halley, July Diaz, Nate Kiley and Liana Waldron all who come together and put this show and help me do the show every single week.

[Paul Rust]

But more importantly everybody here at Earwolf, their amazing engineering team that puts together

[Paul Scheer]

this episode makes it sound absolutely flawless. Make sure you rate and review us on the itunes.

[Paul Rust]

We like that, it's fun and we have a good time with it.

[Paul Scheer]

And make sure you tune in to our mini episode next week because we're going to tell you you what we're watching. See you next week.

[Paul Rust]

Bye for now.

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