Surf II LIVE! w/ Jessica St. Clair

Summary

Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? – Episode: Surf II LIVE! w/ Jessica St. Clair

Introduction

In this lively episode of "How Did This Get Made?", hosts Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, and June Diane Raphael delve into the cult classic disaster film "Surf II". Joined by special guest Jessica St. Clair, the trio dissects the absurdities, humor, and sheer bewilderment that make "Surf II" a prime candidate for their celebration of bad movies.

Overview of "Surf II"

Surf II is a 1984 R-rated film that combines elements of surfing culture, zombie lore, and over-the-top 80s aesthetics. The IMDb tagline provokes intrigue and confusion: "A disgruntled nerd who has been bullied in high school creates Buzz Cola, a soft drink that turns surfers into zombies."

Key Discussions

1. Plot and Development

   Paul Scheer introduces the episode by highlighting the movie's convoluted plot and lack of sequels, noting, "there is no Surf one, there is no Surf three," yet cleverly acknowledging the film's self-aware tagline claiming it's the end of a trilogy (03:09). The hosts discuss multiple recuts of the film, including the addition of gratuitous nudity to make it more marketable, which resulted in inconsistent and awkwardly inserted scenes.

2. Notable Scenes and Elements

   • Nudity and Audience Reactions:

     The trio shares personal anecdotes about feeling nauseous during explicit scenes, such as when full nudity appears unexpectedly. Jason remarks, "I loved it. I loved it. It had two of my favorite things. Eric Stoltz and a guy getting slapped in the face by titties" (05:05), while Paul admits to attempting to block his view during these moments (06:27).

   • Character Analysis:

     • Menlo Schwarzer (Stinky Schwarzer):

       Played by Eddie Deezen, Menlo is depicted as a perpetrator seeking revenge by turning surfers into zombies through his creation, Buzz Cola. The hosts humorously dissect his motivations and the absurdity of his plans, with Paul questioning the logic behind his character's actions (45:58).

     • Sparkle (Florinda Buckworthy):

       Jessica St. Clair explores her transformation into Sparkle via a "face shift machine," enabling her to maintain a secret identity. The discussion touches on the character's duality and the lack of coherence in her portrayal (46:35).

   • Humor and Absurdity:

     The movie's humor is a focal point, with references to over-the-top gags like eating motor oil (32:31) and rapid-fire joke delivery that makes the film a subject for rewatching to catch all the Easter eggs and cultural references.

3. Production Insights

   • Casting Choices:

     The hosts joke about casting decisions for a hypothetical Surf III, suggesting actors like Jeremy Allen White and Flava Flav to enhance the film's already eclectic mix of characters (51:21).

   • Soundtrack and Special Effects:

     Jason Mantzoukas highlights the investment in the film's soundtrack, mentioning contributions from Oingo Boingo, and praises the makeup effects by Greg Cannom, a four-time Oscar winner (57:57).

4. Audience Interaction and Live Reactions

   During the live segment, audience members ask questions about potential sequels and casting, leading to humorous exchanges and improvised jokes. Paul engages directly with the audience, maintaining an energetic and interactive atmosphere throughout (51:11).

5. Critical Reception and Reviews

   The hosts mock the sparse and unconventional reviews found online, emphasizing the film's obscure status and the difficulty in finding genuine critiques. They sarcastically rate the movie highly based on these baffling reviews, furthering the comedic portrayal of the film's dubious quality (70:11).

Notable Quotes

• Paul Scheer: "Does it ever feel like you're a marketing professional just speaking into the void?" (01:02)

• Jason Mantzoukas: "I think this movie was powerfully important to me as a child. It might be if it informed certain things that have become very important." (14:18)

• Jessica St. Clair: "Can I just ask, show of hands, who actually felt physically ill watching this film?" (11:27)

• Jason Mantzoukas: "I felt bad for Jocko sometimes." (33:09)

• Paul Scheer: "When you last saw Grandpa crawl at this?" (16:05)

• Jessica St. Clair: "If people were going to take their tops off, they did it willingly. They did it to celebrate, you know, to celebrate the sun and the surf." (49:32)

Host and Guest Interactions

The dynamic between the hosts and Jessica St. Clair is both humorous and insightful. They play off each other's comments, creating an engaging dialogue that balances criticism with affectionate mockery. Their shared experiences of watching the film, coupled with personal anecdotes, enrich the discussion and provide multiple perspectives on the movie's impact.

Conclusion

In wrapping up the episode, the hosts and Jessica unanimously recommend Surf II, albeit in a tongue-in-cheek manner. They encourage listeners to seek out the film's DVD release by Vinegar Syndrome for special features and restored footage, highlighting its status as a must-watch (or must-miss) cult classic for aficionados of "so-bad-it's-good" cinema.

Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies "How Did This Get Made?"'s unique blend of humor, critique, and affection for cinematic misfires. By dissecting Surf II with a combination of laughter and genuine analysis, the hosts provide both entertainment and insight, making it a valuable listen for anyone intrigued by the world of bad movies.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

You from the groove all the way to the room Ran against the street fighter help to blow off steam just a sucker punch the odd life of Tiffany Bridge how we staying alive they call me when they're badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause they bag Jim funny looking kind and nice Paul is Jewel getting litable? Jason is getting lame June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they just a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you. How did this get paid? Hel and hello people of Seattle. We are live on our doppelganger tour to talk about a surf classic. This movie came out in 1984 rated R and the IMDb tagline or logline is a disgruntled nerd who has been bullied in high school Creates Buzz Cola, a soft drink that turns surfers into zombies. Way to fucking go, IMDb. That's not a description, that's a straight up spoiler. And it actually simplifies how complex this movie is. It's not just about that. It's about so many things. So many things. And you know, Surf two, there is no Surf one, There is no Surf three. But they did have a sense of humor about it because the tagline for this film was the end of a trilogy. So I do like that. Yes. This movie was really like, in development. Hell, after it was shot, like multiple recuts had to be done. They had to add a lot of boobs to make it releasable. Which is a crazy thing to say, but also explains why the boobs are so segmented in the film. It's like, odd. So we, we will break all of this down. But before I can do that, I must introduce to you my co host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's up, jerks? Let's go. Let's go, Seattle. Wow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Woo, woo, woo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here we go. Give it up for the balcony. Holy shit. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let's go.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, well, well. Jason. Surf 2.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I loved it. I. I loved it. It had two of my favorite things. Eric Stoltz and a guy getting slapped in the face by titties. Let's go, Seattle. Let's. Let's go. Best afternoon in the hotel room. How did it take me five hours to watch this?

[Paul Scheer]

It always, always happens to me when I watch a movie like this. The nudity comes on at the most inappropriate time. I was caught with the nudity, full, full nudity going on while getting like a drink from the stewardess and flight attendant. And, and also the guy who is sleeping next to me woke up so that they knew.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were like, you know, I bet that iPad's playing titties. Let's go.

[Paul Scheer]

And it was the first time where I was like, fuck it. I'm not turning this down. I'm just going to. I'm embracing that. Whatever. I am, I am. I'm like, this is it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

This is what I watch. You should judge me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You should make a card. Like, Steve Martin has that card he hands out that says, this card signifies that you've officially met Steve Martin. Or whatever one that you give to flight attendants or for people on transportation where you're watching a movie with nudity. That's just a hyperlink to this episode.

[Paul Scheer]

Catch me in three months and you'll all understand why I needed to see this nudity. But sometimes when I know nudity is going on, I'll just put my finger to block it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like just your finger, not your hand. You still gotta see what's going on.

[Paul Scheer]

I gotta see what's going on. So sometimes I have been known to go like this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just like, just a little, A little finger bra.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, just put her in a bra, guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Put her in a bra. These are catchphrases that are over a decade old. Tonight, let's wrap our minds around that.

[Paul Scheer]

Tonight we'll say put her in a bikini or put him in a bikini. So.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or put them out of bikinis. All of them.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so to break down this film is a person who is a. How did this get made? All star. She is filling in on this tour for our great June, Diane Rayfield. But she is a world class comedian, actress, the co host of the Deep Dive. Please welcome Jessica St. Clair.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hello.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome, Jessica. I, I am so excited that you are here. And if you've been listening, if you know a little bit about this tour, we have subjected you to a lot of male chess, a lot of sexuality.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We called this, this tour the, the Doppelganger tour. But I really think it's more of the Beefcake tour.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It sure is.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because it has been hairless male bodies for days.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And it's like, it's like, you know, Jason requests that there are Twix backstage.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, I'm not going to apologize for it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

King size Twix. And so every night I'm like, huh? I'll treat myself to a Twix. Well, here's the thing. Too many Twix is a bad thing. Just like seeing so many abs, hairless abs, starts to make you feel sick.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie made you feel a little sick.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This made me actually, and I'm not joking, gag on the plane. I almost threw up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wait, wait.

[Paul Scheer]

I never saw an ass crack.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So hairy, so hairy, so hairy, so hairy, so hairy.

[Paul Scheer]

No judgment, but just don't put it on film.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay? No judgment. That's so much hair. So my guess is it was during the eat off.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's right. 7am I flew from LAX to Seattle. 7am I'm watching it. I'm crammed between two very large men and in wetsuits. All the boobs. Yeah, all the boobs are coming. And I just was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All the boobs are coming.

[Jessica St. Clair]

All the boobs are out. So that's, that's weird. And then, and so the guys were clocking it like what the fuck is going on at 7am can you imagine?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

St. Clair sits down in your plane and starts just like fires up hard. Nudity.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Truly.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what it was like 7am Gotta watch it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There are. There are boobs every 15 minutes in this movie. Like clockwork. And honestly, it should be a law.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes. So I'm watching it. I'm in a little matching sweatsuit. You know, I'm watching all these boobs. And then it got to that scene and I was like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would have loved it if you barfed on the plane for me.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I literally almost did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anyway.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you know, where I was already upset. This Movie, look, every 15 minutes there's boobs and there's also. Every 15 minutes there's a very long surfing scene scene. Right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I loved that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It seems I would. I would believe it if it was all B roll that they'd purchased from a surf house.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it was definitely, because.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So they've got like real songs. They've got the Beach Boys. How did they afford. They've got real versions of these songs, not just the beach, except for the Chariots of Fire, Frog Race, which is very much a sound alike, but beautifully done, beautifully shot, gorgeous. This movie, let me be clear, is top to bottom, T to B. Fucking great.

[Paul Scheer]

I was very nervous by the poster. I was like, oh, okay, this is gonna be a gross out movie. And I was like, no, this is a movie about teens falling in love, falling out of love, finding purpose and fighting against the law community. You know, it was about activism, this movie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't know about that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was about the horrors of soda and what soda can do to our.

[Paul Scheer]

Insides and how parents just don't understand.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

Where I got nauseous and I had to rewind. It was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cause you wanted to get nauseous.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Can I just ask, show of hands, who actually felt physically ill watching this film? So many.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay, so we're.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, no, you're welcome. The. What was going on and I found out later, I believe. But when they showed that close up of a person's foot and it had those giant knots, and then later we heard about knee knots and I was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, oh, no, I think it was glue. Don't you mean when they were glued to the surfboard?

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, this is in the opening sequence.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

They just show a foot with like. It looks like just big cysts. Yeah, like giant cysts and that. Like, it was like, oh, they clearly ran out of like the usable surf footage. And they're like, here's some B roll of surfers with terrible injuries. Because they also show another guy, like getting out of the water, like fixing his crotch, like pulling the suit down. I'm like, this is not funny. It just looks like he's uncomfortable. But then we, we get to the school and the. What I love about this movie is it immediately makes no sense because the kids are trying to leave school and they're told, well, it's the weekend.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's right.

[Paul Scheer]

Like they can't leave school on the weekend. But when, when the first guy, I don't even know his name is, maybe it's. I don't know, when he tries to eat through the food.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, yes, this guy is a goddamn legend.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes, he is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They clearly, they clearly got him riled up. As to like your Belushi in Animal.

[Paul Scheer]

House, one of your.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Our movies. Belushi, right. So every scene you're in, you just demolish everything.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And he did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he straight up does now. But what's interesting is in this opening scene, he bites through a chain link fence.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What we later see is that one of the things that happens when the kids are. Spoiler alert. Turned into vampires. No, no, zombies.

[Paul Scheer]

Zombies.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Zombies. But they are zombies that like ingest acid and metal. And so they already.

[Paul Scheer]

So he has the skill.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's interesting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He already has the skill set that the zombie kids have. But he's never had a Buzz Cola.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This kid has a 53 IQ, they say, because.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And he said he cheated. Because he cheated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wish the movie had been about him, full stop.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Me too.

[Paul Scheer]

I.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He was electric. He was electric too.

[Paul Scheer]

He is. You can't get enough of him. Every time he's in there, he's hilarious. Like, go get your brother. He picks him up, throws him out the door.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What about when he made that convertible out of the car?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. So ingenious. Here's the thing. When that happened, and I can't guarantee this is true because my memory is porous.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When that happened, I had a vivid memory of seeing this movie when I was a kid.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Kid, I'm sure you did. I'm sure we all saw it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Older kids were playing it at like a thing that was like families got together and kids had rented a movie. In fact, that the older kids had rented a movie. And so I was sitting there and there was boobs in the movie. I remember that. But I vividly remember chainsawing the roof off the car and then my parents coming in when there was like nudity and being like, wait, what's going on back here?

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's the 80s.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Come on, we're going. Let's. Let's get out of here. And I feel like this movie was powerfully important to me as a child. It might be if it's informed certain things that have become very important.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I. Yeah, yeah. Your parents got upset that you were watching nudity?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I suspect so, because. Although, I don't know, I think they were more upset because they were fine with it if it was like. If I'd been like, can we watch this? And they'd be like, oh, yeah, okay, that's fine. You know?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, my. My parents caught me watching Risky Business on Thanksgiving at my grandma's house.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Now, that's the saddest again, there is only so much room in his books for sad stories.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, there will be sequels.

[Jessica St. Clair]

There has to be a sequel, because we're about to hear one. Okay. What happened? You're all alone.

[Paul Scheer]

I was sitting for the sequel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Joyful recollections of Joy's past.

[Paul Scheer]

These are the good stories. These are the fun ones. I was sitting there and I was watching Risky Business, and my mom came in and she's like, you shouldn't be watching this.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And then left.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There we go.

[Paul Scheer]

But it was never, like, it wasn't told. Like, change the channel.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And I was like, charles Dickens story.

[Paul Scheer]

And I watched it, and I learned a lot about women and men.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It occurs to me that people who didn't see the movie might not understand what's going on. So can I read?

[Jessica St. Clair]

People who saw the movie don't know what's going on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Would it? Would it?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Nobody knows what's going on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's the thing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This movie is a repressed memory we all had from our childhood.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think we would gain a lot if I just read the crawl that happens at the beginning of the movie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay, thank you. I forgot there was a crawl. Go ahead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Understand what's going on.

[Paul Scheer]

When you last saw Grandpa crawl at this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Long ago in the good old days, surfers ruled. It was bitching, right?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was before the threat of chemical pollution, nuclear waste, and the horror of Buzz Cola. Menlo Schwaser was a high school genius who hated surfers. He invented a weird soft drink, involved local businessmen, and set out to rule the coast. He nearly succeeded. Did you not see this?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Honestly, I have no memory of seeing this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait a second. Did only I have this.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, hang on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Raise your hand if you. Oh, that's not many people. Hang on. There's multiple versions of this Movie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This would have helped me. I saw it on YouTube. Maybe they cut it out.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. The director's cut.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Director's cut is what I saw or what they saw. What are the very. What are the differences?

[Paul Scheer]

Jafar, first of all, she's in costume.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's the Jafar. It's Jafar.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. Jafar.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Jafar's back. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's a great costume.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great work. Great work. Great work.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's terrifying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is the diff. What are the. What are the notable differences?

[Jessica St. Clair]

The director's cut explains the plot in.

[Paul Scheer]

A crawl at the beginning.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Jessica St. Clair]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So thank you. Great work. So now my question. Raise your hand or cheer if you saw the version with the crawl. The director's cut. Great. So now if you didn't see that, cheer and raise your hand. Wow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hey.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, by the way, I signed up for some service I've never heard of.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Me too. Yes. What the fuck?

[Paul Scheer]

Just a reminder for that for the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Rest of our lives.

[Paul Scheer]

Cancel yours if you're listening now, cancel that subscription.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't even know how, Paul. I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is also a reminder. If you joined MGM + MGM, you gotta cancel it. You should unsubscribe from that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I, I. This. I know that this movie was re. Released on Vinegar Syndrome, which has done a lot of the movies that we have done great company, but. Yeah, I didn't get that crawling.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. I wonder what else. I'm so curious. So, yes, the crawl. I didn't even finish it. I'm so sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's so much more, by the way.

[Paul Scheer]

It kind of wrecks. It kind of wrecks it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I, like, figured out the Galactic Senate meets. Oh, wait, wrong crawl. He invented a weird soft drink, involved local businessmen, and set out to rule the coast. He nearly succeeded. This is the story of Buzz Cola and Menlo's revenge.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And as you said earlier, there is no surf one even. And this, the subtitle of this movie is the End of the Trilogy.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's the greatest.

[Paul Scheer]

I think it was the greatest.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie is in on the joke, 100%.

[Paul Scheer]

But I also feel like it pushes in ways where it's like, are you like. And that's what makes it so interesting, is like, it's so weird. And they're like, Cleavon Little. Insane.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Insane.

[Paul Scheer]

Clearly does not want to be there.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Who is this Cleavon Little?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is Daddy O. Daddy O.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The head of the school genius who.

[Paul Scheer]

Is everywhere from blazing Saddle for no reason. Oh, yeah. So, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And do you think Beaker is named as such because he looks like the Muppet Beaker? Like, real talk for sure, right?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I mean, I was a science teacher.

[Paul Scheer]

Cleavon Little, at certain points, if you watch him, you will just see him sitting in scenes motionless, like, and they become bits. Like, it almost felt like he. And I've seen Cleavon Little in other things. He is doing the Blazing Saddles performance in this. He is commenting. He is like, he is making choices, but he is just checked out.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He might have needed health insurance. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes I'll be on a something with an older actor and they're like, between you and me, it was about to run out. And they'll always say, like, you know what I think I'm doing in this scene? I'm off screen folding laundry, like, so they can get out of the scene. Because he really. I would forget he was in the movie. Then he popped back in again.

[Paul Scheer]

Sometimes the camera.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Forget about Mr. Daddio.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Daddio is fabulous. He's fabulous. Even though he's giving 1%.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All of the adults in this movie are for real legends like Ruth Buzzies. In this movie, there are. Every time someone showed up, I was like, holy shit, Porsche's here. What the fuck are we doing?

[Paul Scheer]

Horshak, who plays and I play the horny deputy inspector. Underwear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Underwear, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And his boss, chef Boyardee. Chief Boyardee.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Chief Boyardee who later says later in the movie, insists, I love SpaghettiOs. I was like, this movie is a fucking gold mine.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

You something in return for karma.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's okay.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't really have much in my purse.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, let's see.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hand sanitizer. It's lavender.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm good.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Seriously, Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Really, I'm fine.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

Now let me ask you this. Naked Gun.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Was this around the same time as a Naked Gun? Was this pre Naked Gun post?

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, this is probably.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is more. This is closer to Bill and Ted is 84.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, maybe right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

80. Am I right? 86. Where am I wrong?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm just wondering what canon we're in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's. Yes, but I feel like. Or we're closer to Police story than we are Naked Gun. Go ahead. Really?

[Paul Scheer]

What this movie is in many respects is Porkies. But funnier.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. Like Porky's was the hit and they're like, Bill.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It does have Bill and Ted's energy. You know what I mean? Like, like the winkiness of it. Porky's still isn't in on the joke. The way I feel like this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Absolutely not. But I feel like they're. They're kind of chasing the success of Sex Kids Crazy. And I feel like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And Sex Kids Crazy. That's it. That's the T shirt. Or is it. Or, or is it now, hang on.

[Paul Scheer]

I guess what I couldn't quite wrap my head around was this movie was released in a movie theater.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Like somebody opened up their newspaper. What should we see? Surf2. And then people went, I don't know how many, but it definitely was an option on a marquee.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And people must have been confounded.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The way that I was like, it took me 10 minutes to be like, oh, wait a minute, I love this.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this is a scene that I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Think when he starts up the ambulance game in the arcade that. And it just drives away. I'm like, this is. We don't do this anymore. And honestly, we should. This movies got fucking jokes and tits.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's the thing, even in the, in the world that this movie is like, oh, we're doing jokes and we're doing bits. They stand by and they react like, oh my God, they're shooting at our guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh my God.

[Paul Scheer]

But they never say, wait, stop.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. In fact, they never stop. They allow it to heighten from handguns to machine guns to hand grenades. They. They lob a hand grenade into the lifeguard hut and everybody walks out. Like.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, I had such a crush on that girl. The other. Not the, The Corrine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Corrine. Corrine Borer.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Am I close? Also, huge crush.

[Paul Scheer]

Huge crush in that era. And she's great, everybody. That's the other thing too. Eric Stoltz is in this.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Eric Stoltz delivering like nuanced work, I would argue. I really felt in many ways Eric was in a different movie. A different film.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He brings a certain gravitas to that role he does.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He's like, I could see him as a guy who's, you know, got a dad that's doing bad things and he just wants to surf, you know, and be there for his buds.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But he's got an intelligence. You can tell that's separating him from the rest of the group, especially from Mr. Big Head.

[Paul Scheer]

Mr. Bighead. Can I show you the scene that blew my mind when I. I was already enjoying it. When this scene went on, my mind exploded.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This is cream.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

The split kitchen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is. This is straight from Annie Hall. This is incredible.

[Jessica St. Clair]

In front of your father.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Walk your out in front of your mother. Sorry. What do you and the boys have planned today? Go to the beach. Got to practice.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I thought that the surfing beach was closed.

[Paul Scheer]

It is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're screwed. We're going to the public beach.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm surprised. That's nothing but a closed out shore break.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome to. This is great directing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. And great acting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is when I was like, oh, this movie not only knows what it is but is excellent at it. Because a dumb version of these, one of these movies, the version that we might do otherwise on this show would never attempt this ever. Never mind calling it back multiple times and heightening it by moving the camera around. And you realize there's no wall between them. They're looking at each other incredibly genuinely. Incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

When, when they literally open. When they open up the fridge and you can see them through the fridge.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, so funny. So do you understand other people watched Craven the Hunter? Do you realize how good you had it?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I enjoyed it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They didn't see. They watched 2 hours and 20 minutes of no sexual chemistry whatsoever. Whatsoever. I just saw zombies have more sexual chemistry than exist in Craven the Hunter.

[Paul Scheer]

But it also feels like this movie is like they're having fun. But then there are these moments where you're like. But then they let people have too much fun. Like, well, that's.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Here's where I'm. I'm. I'm just going to throw a little fly in the ointment here, please.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sometimes in the suntan lotion and most.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. In the lotion. I didn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He puts the lotion in the basket.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you know, buddy, don't or I.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Will get off this stage in the basket. I'm not joking and it's not funny.

[Paul Scheer]

What is happening? I didn't know.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's not funny and he knows it.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, that's a thing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Nobody's laughing on this stage.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a thing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Don't do it. If you put it.

[Paul Scheer]

I even do.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Honestly, I'm not. Don't. Don't think about it. Put your microphone down. It's not funny. And don't.

[Paul Scheer]

What is going on?

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's not doing. Rubs the lotion off its skin.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't like it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't like it. It's not funny.

[Paul Scheer]

Can I say one thing?

[Jessica St. Clair]

No. If it's going to be a line for the movie. I'm not alive for the movie. June, right now.

[Paul Scheer]

No, not a line from the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Don't make me blow this marriage up. I will call June right now.

[Paul Scheer]

She is sleeping. Big shoot day tomorrow. All right. Can I tell you something crazy?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm angry at both of you now. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, me, I didn't do anything.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Mad at both of you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul told me to do it. Paul showed me the quote.

[Paul Scheer]

I didn't do anything. I didn't even know I wanted to tell you something funny, which is this. Did you know?

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm so worried. What? Okay, I have to hold on. My fight or flight response is on. I need to breathe and get myself regulated. Okay, Paul, you are safe to me, all right?

[Paul Scheer]

Did you know that they rent out the house from the movie on Airbnb? Shut up.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Shut up.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't want to know it exists. I don't want to know this film exists.

[Paul Scheer]

But who would want to spend a weekend at Buffalo Bob's house?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And, like. And then they try to, like, make it fun. Like, they have one room that just has, like, arcade games. Like. Well, that's not right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But is there a. Is there still a pit? Is there a pit in there?

[Paul Scheer]

It's like a basement.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Moving on. What I was gonna say is.

[Paul Scheer]

You won't stay there, Seattle.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

You would never say that.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You know what? I'm seriously, like, I am gonna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How much money? For real? How much money would you. How much money for you to stay overnight in Buffalo Bill's house and watch the movie in the house?

[Jessica St. Clair]

No fucking way. Billions of dollars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How much money?

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, nothing with charity. I've been trying to forget this movie since 8th grade every day of my life.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. I did not know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is exposure.

[Paul Scheer]

I did not know this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What about exposure therapy?

[Paul Scheer]

No, I won't Bring it up.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This piece of shit offered me like $5,000 to watch funny games. Like, what's wrong with him? Like, back when we had no money, he's like, I'll get the money somehow. Good money anyway.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's good money.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, you know what? Let's not talk about it. So the garbage eating scene.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What item made you wretch? Was it the raw fish?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or was it the metal? Was it. What was it? Because I got a. I will agree. Did you also feel like you're became too much at a certain point? As did the scene where he's chugging the viscous motor oil. Because I was like, this is too thick and it's stressing me out.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Me too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like he's taking a barium swallow so that they can figure out what's wrong with his stomach.

[Paul Scheer]

I was already upset when I saw that in his bedroom. He just had a loose thing, a stalk of celery and motor oil. And I was like, what's going on here on the reg.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I felt bad for Jocko sometimes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I didn't. A lot of times I recognized it as a joke.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But I didn't know what was funny about it. And it started to make me question my job as a comedian sometimes. What am I missing?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were sometimes crowding the movie with joke or joke adjacent words. Like, I believe the radio station was mentioned. The mighty dildos.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was a thing that I was like, wait, what was that? Went by quick. I couldn't figure that out.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Somebody said one more thing. Schlong.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, I wrote that down too. I literally was like, I have that as well. And I also was like, wait, what? And I felt like at one point, Beaker was very specifically dressed as the mayor from Jaws. Yes, there was a lot. And then they pull out the orca, which is the boat from Jaws. There's so much referential stuff going on and it's coming so quick that the movie is pretty much going to reward rewatching.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, for sure. But I mean, I go like, excuse me, are you available for dating? That's a great line.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, great line.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm back in, you know.

[Paul Scheer]

And then she said, well, what are you thinking? And then. And at one point I wrote it down. I think he goes. I think he said, are you open to holding hands? Like, I was like, what is happening?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Or when those guys were in the. When they were in the lifeguard stand. Hey, you guys are nude. Like, these are funny lines.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But what they then do is they jump right back Into. These dudes only want to talk about surfing. They don't care about boobs. Who are these guys? What are you talking about?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Seriously?

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, there. And that's what I love about. I love about this movie so much that it's a surf movie where they go and watch a surf movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. And we watch the movie they're watching.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And. And we're. We're better for it.

[Paul Scheer]

We are. And it's a fun little. Is at the movie theater. He is just the high school principal. He is the head of the town council. He is at the movie theater. He is at the surf competition that he is telling people actively not to participate in. In the first scene when he is the principal and someone says something, and I think he says, your mama. Like, I think that's the first line that he says.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Do you think he improvised? Do we think there was a lot of improvising on the movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah. I. Jess. I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

In the surf movie, we also. And this is what. This is where I think the movie does these jumps that I love the surf movie. The nerd character comes in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Eddie Deason.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Now, is this a nerd we've seen in other movies as a nerd?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

An iconic 80s nerd.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What else have we seen him in?

[Paul Scheer]

Greece.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Greece.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Greece.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Greece.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He's the one at the beach. Yeah. That gets knocked down at the stairs. Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He.

[Paul Scheer]

He. When he comes in, they throw a flaming bag of shit on the floor. In the movie theory, steps it out. And he steps in shit. Great. Classic prank.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then I was like, think about that.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's what I was saying. My thought was, so someone brought a bag of shit to the surf movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just in case that was someone's intention. They just got lucky that Eddie Deezen.

[Paul Scheer]

Stepped in it because it looked like they were having a good time. And by the way, Eddie Deezen, who has a framed picture of Jerry Lewis up in his.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What was that about?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, because he is essentially Jerry Lewis.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

So he is like. That's like. It's like. But he. But yet he's a scientist, so why.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Would he have that? Because I actually didn't see that. I just saw the cracked picture frame at the end, and I was like, who is this?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, He. Well, look, let me tell you one thing about Eddie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

There's Easter eggs in this film.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what I say.

[Jessica St. Clair]

In fact, it's almost all Easter eggs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're all gonna watch it right now.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's go.

[Jessica St. Clair]

There's no plot.

[Paul Scheer]

The movie.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The plot Just Easter eggs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's all just nuts. Character, character beats. It's all sketches. The movie, that movie theater scene. Where is her name?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Sparkle. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Keeps keep saying, I have to warn you. I have to, I have to warn you. And that is such good. This is like dumb Abbott and Costello. There are so many dumb cartoon jokes all throughout this that I was having the time, time of my life. And I never felt this way before. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. Thanks.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And here's my old phone to trade in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

There's always a trade in.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not right now. @ T Mobile.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I feel like I have to give you something in return for karma.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's okay.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer. It's lavender.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm good. Seriously.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Really, I'm fine.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

But Stinky is a great name. Menlo made no sense.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's also like a stinky dick. Right? Stinky Schwartzer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, I think I.

[Paul Scheer]

So he also. This is the fact I love. Deezen provided his own hat with elongated brim. What was that hat?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible. Incredible. He should be in jail, but instead, there it is. But instead, he's at the beach.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He's at the. How did he get out of jail? They don't even explain it.

[Paul Scheer]

They don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who cares? He's a hero. When he hits her in the face with the hat, I was like, we're all winning.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This guy is amazing.

[Paul Scheer]

He gets his own hat. And he also provided oversized novelty scissors, Bless him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, think about that. He provided oversized novelty scissors.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, he is doing. I mean, he is doing a good Jerry Lewis, like, amen. Like, that kind of. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's his whole thing. I feel like in this era, that's like. I feel like that's what he is.

[Paul Scheer]

Right? He is like, he is the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Too bad, you know, because we've gone away from nerds being destroyed physically and emotionally and movies.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Nerds. Nerds rule now.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Nerds rule. But I feel bad for. Except now coming nerds that would play these type of roles. They really don't have, you know, a voice anymore.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. We need to get something to think about.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You want to give a voice to the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Bring it back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Bring back kicking. Kicking nerds around.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Well, I think that's for fun. I think that's just incels for fun.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, this movie does have a lot of, like, people that are trying to remind you of other people. Like, I believe that the sparkle. Right. She is supposed to be like Olivia Newton John.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Olivia Newton John, right?

[Paul Scheer]

100%. And when she said he had everything, he was short, ugly, carried a slide rule.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Isn't she also doing an Australian accent?

[Paul Scheer]

Is she Australian? I didn't know if she was doing one or was Australian.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, she's not Australian. She's Australian.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's Australian. So she's doing an Australian accent.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, this movie does have a little bit of a plot for a bit, and then it just becomes like, just vignettes of insanity. And you're like, okay, fine. I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Intercut with surf scenes and dance scenes.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And like extreme close ups of just torsos, just boobs and butts dancing. What.

[Paul Scheer]

Can we explain? Can I. This is where I think I'm a little confused. Not that I need to break it down in every little detail, but. So his part plan was to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who's he?

[Paul Scheer]

He.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Stinky Schwarzon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

Was to. To create this. Well, okay. Huh. I want to walk it back because I know that there's two plans at play, right? One is the soda. And the two soda guys, they have a plan, right? To do some. I'm going to say something, right? But they're not working with Menlo Schwarzman.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They are. They are.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, they are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're working with him until the end when he turns on them and turns them into ladies.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. Right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But what are they working with him to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They are. They are make. Okay, let me go back to the crawl, if you don't mind. If you don't mind. If you. If I just will refer to the crawl. That was before. Okay. No, I won't read that part. He. Okay. Menlo Schwarzer was a high school genius who hated school surfers. I know that he invented a weird soft drink, involved local businessmen.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Those who invented the cola.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He invented the cola, involved them. They are, I believe, like the money behind it. And set out to rule the coast, period. He nearly succeeded. It's a real spoiler alert. Yeah, it really, I will say, gives away the ending. Well, okay, so Emperor Palpatine has cast.

[Paul Scheer]

Now. This is. All right, so he was working in cahoots with them. And that's why those surfers showed up in the beginning to take the soda from the petroleum factory out. But then why were those. But then the surfers are also like, living lives. So are the cops.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, which surfers? The heroes. Eric Stoltz and his buddy.

[Paul Scheer]

No, the, like the first zombie ones.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Jocko. No, the first ones pre Jocko. The guys we see get sucked down in the first scene.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no.

[Paul Scheer]

These are the guys who go to the arcade and drink the soda. Those guys got it. We don't really know their backstory. We just know they were maybe killed.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. They turn into zombies.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. And so they're just like, living their lives as kids.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As zombies. As zombies.

[Paul Scheer]

As zombie kids.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As zombie kids. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It seems like you think this movie is confusing and it's not, but like.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, let me ask you this. Do the dads know that kids are being turned into zombies?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not only do they know, they know that one of Their sons, in fact, is a zombie who is now rampaging in. Oh, no, no. Jocko's father is Bernie's kid. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

Those two dads make sure their sons know not to drink soda.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Because they were like, we'll never drink soda. That's like, oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jocko is. Is Corinne Borer's brother.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Thank you.

[Paul Scheer]

Sorry.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay, so Stinky's whole situation is she wants to turn every surfer into a zombie.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. Because the surfers turned him into a person with female anatomy and male anatomy.

[Jessica St. Clair]

The surfers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's revealed at the very end. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

The surfers gave him a drink. They poisoned his drink.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Feels as though that's what happened in the first movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If. If that movie were to have existed.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That has both female and male parts.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I assume so because he lifts up his shirt to reveal that he is also in a bikini. Different than underwear, but a bikini. So he definitely has breasts. And the breasts were given to him. I don't know if they took away.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

His penis at some point. It. Yes. That surfers put chemicals in something he drank and.

[Jessica St. Clair]

And it disintegrated his penis.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know what.

[Paul Scheer]

Or I think it just added breasts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And that is the inciting incident that is causing him to seek revenge.

[Paul Scheer]

If this is a better movie, we would have seen his breasts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, by the way, we would have seen it at the end of act one, and they would have been glorious.

[Paul Scheer]

So then he took his high school girlfriend, who's a real nerd, and put her in a face shift machine.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Florinda Buckworthy or something. Yes, Florinda Butnick.

[Paul Scheer]

So Florinda Buckman becomes Sparkle. They. But they also seem like they are still in high school.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She has re. Enrolled in high school, but he is, I think, out of high school.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, she didn't re. Enroll. She came back in as another person because she had to keep a secret identity going. But he doesn't look that much older than Eric Stoltz.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I think he's recently out and he's living underwater. Is that right?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, In a subway.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So. So let me ask you this. Like, do you think she is, like, what if Sandra Dee arrived at high school after the end of Greece has just happened?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She's. She like. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. Sparkle. I should have been more specific.

[Paul Scheer]

No, I like. I like what you're saying.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Sparkle is a bobo. Olivia Newton John.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let me be. Is this movie. Is this movie a better sequel to grease than Grease 2?

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's giving me Grease 2 vibes. Greece 2 makes me feel sick, too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June is going to be furious.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I know. She loves.

[Paul Scheer]

It loves Greece 2.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know she does be Greece 2, but this is very.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It feels very much a spit. Like, what if all the kids from the Grease High School went to the coast? Wait, are they on the. Where is Greece High School?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, it's Venice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, it is. Oh, then just.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, this makes sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Should that be the shirt? Surf two better than Grease too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then asterisk at the bottom. Don't tell June.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm not going to be a. It's so fun to hurt women. Yeah, you guys are having a lot of fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It rubs the lotion on its skin.

[Paul Scheer]

I never have Beth put a picture of Buffalo Bob on that screen.

[Jessica St. Clair]

So fun. I want you to know that every time you guys send me a movie, I'm so worried it's going to be actually scary. This one I was really worried about because I thought it was going to be about zombies. And. And it was. It was okay. But I want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I felt very worried, very easy. I. I think we have been.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what? And I will say also, I don't know why I'm going down this road, but I will say that I was impressed by some of, like, the restraint this movie had. Like when Officer Underwear Inspector Underwear wanted to feel up those naked girls. Like, the chief was like, no, don't be a fucking creep.

[Jessica St. Clair]

No, he was chewing on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, he puts a guy. He puts a cigar in his mouth and it's like.

[Paul Scheer]

Like he's like. He's sucking his own dick.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's fucking next level.

[Paul Scheer]

But I did appreciate it. I was like, oh, this movie is like on the right side of creepy. It's like he's like, ooh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree, I agree.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Every so often, a girl was for no reason dragged away on their towel.

[Paul Scheer]

So it was an old woman, too.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry.

[Paul Scheer]

That was an old woman. Old woman.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was an old lady. And she deserved it for getting old.

[Paul Scheer]

When that old woman got dragged into the ocean, I was like, that was insanely fun, funny.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But what I did enjoy is that if people were going to take their tops off, they did it willingly. They did it to celebrate, you know, to celebrate the sun and the surf. Nobody was pulling their tops off, which I appreciated.

[Paul Scheer]

Should.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, my favorite thing about the. The. The gross out eating contest, which is it goes on for a very long time.

[Paul Scheer]

That's what made me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it keeps heightening. It keeps heightening. So it's our John Belushi guy who is not a zombie versus our. Is it Jocko or is it one of the other zombies? It is Jocko and it is a gross. They're just. It starts with, I believe, seaweed, and then it just keeps escalating. They're eating glass. Anyway, what's crazy is it's so gross that in an effort to. To kind of, I feel like, make it more palatable, the only thing they cut away to are the boobs dancing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So all the reaction shots are people watching and then just boobs dancing.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But not their faces, just their boobs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, it's just.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's just there. And not even a three quarter show. What is that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a cowboy.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's a cowboy.

[Paul Scheer]

That is.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I mean, it's called a cowboy.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean. And then Dick Dale is playing music at that point too. Dick Dale is in this movie. Annette Funicello, they're playing miserable here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon, the stars of these big beach movies, they refused to be in this film. Good for you. They were like, no, no, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mistake.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. All right, let me go out to the crowd. Let me see what we have here. Questions from the audience. All right. If you're in costume, I definitely want to talk to you. All right, what do we got? Oh, we got it. All right, here we go. Let me open. Here we go. Oh, my gosh. You have a folder full. How did this get made?

[Jessica St. Clair]

This is a binder, a dossier.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is a Surf2Binder.

[Paul Scheer]

This is pretty intense. And you're in a full Jason Manzuka sweatshirt.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, gosh.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, I want to make sure, you know, as I'm talking to people in the audience, no one do a Buffalo Bill impression.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's not funny.

[Paul Scheer]

I just. I'm trying to protect you, Jess.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I've already texted her.

[Paul Scheer]

She's asleep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, don't tell on us.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm going to.

[Paul Scheer]

Hi. What's her name? What's your question?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My name is Becky.

[Jessica St. Clair]

My question is, if you were tasked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Today with casting Surf 3 3, the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Revenge of the trilogy, who would you cast?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you can include it yourselves.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, my first instinct, honestly, is to cast all the kids from this movie as the adults of the.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Well, Eric Stoltz, of course, should reprise his role.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Stoltz. Corinne Borer, like any of.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I think we're throwing a Johnny Knoxville in there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure, I'd love Knoxville as the principal.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Maybe.

[Paul Scheer]

You know who I put in there? Right there? Jeremy Allen White as the Eric. Sweet Stoltz character.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. Great. Great.

[Paul Scheer]

I think he would be great.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I feel like I could throw, like, a flava flav in there, get him out of retirement. You want, flavor him in his giant clock. That's the guy with the giant clock.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like that giant clock.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I feel like it's one of those things you could just throw anybody on the wall. You know what I mean?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I feel like this. This podcast, I genuinely believe, could get surf3 made.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I don't think it costs that much. I don't think it costs that much either.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no. And I definitely. I would want to be in it. I would want to be like, oh, my God. Mayor or some other. Or I would want to be like one of the dads or some. Some. Some sort of baddie or something.

[Paul Scheer]

How about Martin Starr?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Great.

[Paul Scheer]

As the Eddie Deason character?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Great.

[Paul Scheer]

That's good. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And let's all agree that it's got to have, I don't know, more booze.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Sure. Yeah, sure.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, but they got to be naturals, you know? Yeah. Large American naturals.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree with Sinclair. Big naturals. Now, that's interesting. You say that. I'm agreeing with. It's interesting. I'm agreeing with St. Clair's Point. They should be big naturals.

[Paul Scheer]

Surf three big naturals. Is that what it is? Surf three colon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Serve three big naturals of Seattle.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. Make boobs. Great again on the back.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, I got these people all wearing Buzz Cola hats. They're.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What? Wait, what are they wearing?

[Paul Scheer]

Stand up. Stand up. Here, Stand up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What are you wearing?

[Paul Scheer]

Buzz Cola hats. Buzz Cola.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Buzz Cola. That's cute. Thank you.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's cute.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I couldn't hear it. That looks great.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so Buzz Cola people. No. Do you have a question? No. Do you have a. No. All right. Oh, you got a present for me? I'll take this. Now I gotta say thanks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm guessing it's gonna be Buzz Cola.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What is that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the official Big Nick costume.

[Paul Scheer]

Worn by Gerard Butler in den of thieves 2.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pantera.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Smell it, Paul. Smell it, Paul. Smell it. Quick, Paul, smell it. Whoa, whoa. Quick, Paul, put it on.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, the f. It smells delicious.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Put it on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's on. Put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Yes, yes, yes.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, like a glove.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Fits like a glove.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes. Yes, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel powerful in this shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. Big Nick, man, I love this. I like. This is. You look great.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You do look great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great, great.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hangs right on you. It does. It's hugging you in all the right places.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And lest anybody thinks somehow this is promotional paid promotion for this movie, it is not. These movies are fantastic.

[Paul Scheer]

I have a Den of Thieves hat that I wear around I was gonna bring on tour and I too nervous I was gonna lose it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's sad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's precious. It's precious.

[Paul Scheer]

I just couldn't. I left it at home. I was like, this would be fun. I'll wear this out. No, Too scared.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's got. It's the kind of thing that it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I'm gonna literally punch you in the dick. I'm serious. Don't try me.

[Paul Scheer]

Happy birthday.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Right? All right.

[Paul Scheer]

What's your name? What's your question?

[Jessica St. Clair]

My name is Don.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This question is for Jessica.

[Jessica St. Clair]

If it's.

[Paul Scheer]

Hold on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, no, no. Not gonna do it. Paul and I can just get fucked.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay. Yes. Thank you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I was wondering if random beach bonfires are better than trash can fires. Oh, yeah. Were you triggered by the beach bonfire or. No, because that's a less dystopian.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I was triggered first by the makeup of those zombies on the COVID Cause I thought we were definitely heading into the future. I was so happy to be on terra firma at that. I will take a beach bonfire over a trash can fire any day. I found myself thinking, this town seems like fun, great.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great. Do you know what I mean?

[Jessica St. Clair]

This town seems like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I. Honest to God, I would vacation there tomorrow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Me too. Anyway, thank you for thinking of me and my nervous system.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it's. I think it's big naturals. California.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, big naturals.

[Paul Scheer]

You said it takes us into the future, which is ironic because Eric Stoltz was originally cast in Back to the Future and then fired because he wouldn't go into the future or the past.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

He was a present day kid.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I didn't know that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Imagine if this was part of the Back to the Future universe.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Might be.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm with another guy with a Buzz Cola shirt on. All right. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. There's a lot of buzz. Yeah. Is there just a lot of Buzz Cola merch?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are these real or did you make them? We made them.

[Paul Scheer]

Amazing crowd.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My name's Emerson. I'm the makeup effects artist from Wolf Cop the movie, which you guys totally need to do someday, which made me think and check the credits. Who did the makeup effects? And you'll be surprised that Greg Cannon did, who won four Oscars for makeup effects. And, you know, clearly this is where he got his shot.

[Paul Scheer]

That's amazing. What movies has he won Oscars for?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

For vice, for Mrs. Doubtfire, for curious Case of Benjamin Button and Bram Stoker's Dracula.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

And only nominated for this one. Not a winner, but nominated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And this is a year after he did the makeup on Thriller for Michael Jackson. Whoa.

[Jessica St. Clair]

He was tired.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It shows.

[Paul Scheer]

That's awesome.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's on the screen.

[Paul Scheer]

But if anyone wants to, and I'm not saying touch me, but wants to touch the shirt, you can.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Paul, Paul, Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, you're in the shirt. You're in the shirt.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Just look at it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If they could touch the shirt. That's you.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't feel like it's me. I feel like I'm fucking.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're not. You're not. Big Nick. Oh, God.

[Paul Scheer]

Fucking get in there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, shit. Is that why you just texted me? Let's go to Benihana, bitch. All right.

[Paul Scheer]

What do you got?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Okay, so ostensibly the Buzz Cola is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Supposed to make surfers stop wanna surfing, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then we get a pretty extensive scene of two zombies surfing.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, you know what I think it is? I think that they're supposed to be better surfers to then beat the regular surfers. So then those surfers are disheartened.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Is Eddie Deason's plan that the zombie surfers are going to win the surf contest?

[Paul Scheer]

I believe so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's got to be it, right? So that that's his revenge is the surfers lose? That's my guess.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's a real long walk.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I mean, like really, I mean, just to win the surf contest when at this point, like, this is an indestructible army, when they are in the classroom and one of the kids is just guzzling from a beaker and see, someone says, that's acid. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. These kids could do drinks, eat anything and be unfazed. But then at the end of the movie, Karine Bore is basically like, yeah, as long as I didn't have Buzz Cola for a little after the effects wore off.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wore off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which is what? Indestructible body.

[Jessica St. Clair]

So do all of those zombies turn back to regular kids?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Of course. They're fine.

[Jessica St. Clair]

They're fine. All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're fine.

[Paul Scheer]

Fine. At the end, they are fine. And now I'm in the balcony.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Seattle. Balcony.

[Paul Scheer]

The lower balcony. The lower balcony.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The lb.

[Paul Scheer]

Hi. What's your name?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My name is Ryan.

[Paul Scheer]

What do you got? So the. The surf contest is the Buzz International Surf Contest, which means essentially the. The price for this is just five minutes to talk about whatever you want. And if the zombie surfers win, they get to sell more Buzz Cola. And that's just perpetuating the cycle of almost taking over the west coast, by the way. Yeah, okay. Yes, great plot point.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Great work.

[Paul Scheer]

Great point. Yeah. Because, I mean, everyone's watching.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So this is. This is a. This is a cash grab. You think this is the zombie visibility exposure.

[Paul Scheer]

I think the dads who I also think were held back in school and were the ones who put that stuff in his drink because they seem to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

These OG bullies. You think the dads are the. Absolutely. I think they were held back in school long enough. Based on. People are turning against you. People don't like it. People don't like it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You had us and then you lost us.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow, look at this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Too far.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Too close to the sun.

[Paul Scheer]

Sir, I want. I want to come to this hat in one second. Just come out to the middle of the aisle, because I have no way to get to you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, the balcony. The balcony. As opposed to down here where people were respectfully raising the balcony, gesticulating wildly.

[Paul Scheer]

What do you got? Okay, so I was looking, doing a lot of research on the Internet. There's a connection between this movie and Washington. So 30 miles west of here is a town called Everett, and they have a 14 foot tall brass sculpture called Surf 2. And that's with two. Like it's a new moon. The Roman numeral digits two. There's no surf one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The.

[Paul Scheer]

The guy who made it makes brass automobiles. It has nothing to do with surfing or anything like that. It was made in 1976, which is before the movie was released, but maybe inspired the movie. Yeah, I even tried. Yeah. But the other fun fact about it is the town hated it so much that a disgruntled group hung the mayor in effigy off of the statue. And it had to be. And it had to be moved because of that. People were so angry about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow, Great research.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

An absolute insane Bizarro universe show. The balcony's got facts.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah, they're doing like first person research. It's like NPR up there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And the Richie Riches down here are a bunch of zeros.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. Are you going on?

[Paul Scheer]

Hey, technically this is just kind of mez. Because this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, this is lower balcony. I'm going to say it's mes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That looks. I'll be honest. These fuckers look like balcony monsters.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just. I'm looking. I'm looking at a fucking balcony.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait until I cross the barrier.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just. I feel like just piss just streaming down these aisles.

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Every seat's a toilet now.

[Paul Scheer]

I just want you to know I'm officially in this. The lower part of the top of.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I can't see you, Paul. Good luck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. There's. I. There's no lights in that area.

[Jessica St. Clair]

June loves you, Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Be careful. Terrifying. It's so scary.

[Paul Scheer]

So much higher.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Don't be a hero, Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You don't have to go up there.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You're a father, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

I can do anything in my new shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul, be careful. Oh, wow. The balcony's so deep. Oh, my God. Look at that. Holy shit. Those are scary people.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought this was the balcony. And those are. Those are terrifying people.

[Paul Scheer]

I know. This is what I'm going into. All right. Hi. What's your name? What's your question?

[Jessica St. Clair]

My name is Lauren. My question is about the budget, because.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As you've already mentioned, there's been multiple. I'm going to pause you there, Lauren. On what planet do people in the balcony have budget questions? I don't know. What's up, Seattle? We're in a topsy turvy world. I don't like to think about them being smart. I don't know about you guys. Go ahead, Lauren. You're killing it.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Just really quick. This has been a dream control.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Come true.

[Jessica St. Clair]

To be yelled at by Jason.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Dream bigger.

[Paul Scheer]

Yelled at in a nice way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The balcony is more emotionally available. And the orchestra. What are we talking about, Seattle? You guys are a fucking mess.

[Paul Scheer]

She wants to know what the answer is. The answer is 2 million. But that's not what the show is. We don't go like, yeah, 2 million. 2 million. How much was it for the Beach Boy? I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you want to. You want it broken down line by line? The balcony's doing forensic accounting on the movie. I do believe talking about Lauren's making you guys look like I, I. It's Lauren and the girl with a binder. Everybody else can leave.

[Paul Scheer]

I do believe the Beach Boys are probably cheaper to get because I feel like they're in many movies, the Beach Boys. I feel like they must have gotten screwed by somebody very early on. And songs out there, it's not like Prince. Like Prince is a needle drop. That's expensive. Beach Boys get out there. But one on closed caption. They kind of up a lot of what they're saying, but I didn't realize The Beach Boys sang about thongs. There is a thong.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were. They were the original thong song.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, now I'm in the balcony. How are you? I'm well.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm Matt.

[Paul Scheer]

Matt, what do you got?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, number one, you are so far.

[Paul Scheer]

Back in the balcony.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I saw both commentaries to this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's go. All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Our buddy Chief Boyardee went on to create the Star Wagon company that makes the porta potties in Hollywood.

[Jessica St. Clair]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. Number two, Eric Stone Stoltz.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That scene when they were drunk in the lifeguard hut. He had never been drunk before. The director insisted on getting Eric Stoltz legitimately drunk. What? And he was sick for the whole day.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. 29 day shoot. That's rough.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, two more quick ones. What? They invested. Paul. Paul, are you okay like this?

[Paul Scheer]

This is the most cogent balcony we've ever had.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Usually. Usually the balcony is blackout drunk. But somehow Seattle, the balcony showed up and these folks are just like, do, do, do, do, do. Who cares?

[Paul Scheer]

Seattle doesn't fucking play.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, all right. They invested heavily in the soundtrack. As you can tell, there are new original songs from Oingo Boingo, who at the time was a regional undisputed discovered California band.

[Paul Scheer]

The soundtrack was never released. Wow. I had heard that that Oingo Boingo song is unavailable anywhere now. Do you have anything else?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The ska band that's playing in the one scene. What were they called? They were called Meet something. I looked it up. Last one, and this is probably the best. Everybody's favorite scene. The breakfast scene. That is not split screen. That's a real set. Director said they did that in two, possibly one take.

[Paul Scheer]

Whoa, whoa.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was. And that is truly an incredible. There's two of them. There's two in unison scenes that are just fantastic.

[Jessica St. Clair]

But it's a testament to the talent in this movie that they were able to do that in one or two takes. These are phenomenal actors.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Again, Ruth. Buzzy's in this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

These are amazing. You have one more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One more thing, Buzz.

[Paul Scheer]

One more thing. Here we go. Put the lotion in the fucking basket. Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh.

[Jessica St. Clair]

I will climb up there and punch you in the dick, sir. I will do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She can't get to the balcony.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Do not make me do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She can't get to the balcony or else she gets the hose again.

[Paul Scheer]

Look, Seattle has brought it. And now we see. See how they close it out? Because, yes, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Hey, my name's Celia, AKA Balcony number four. Wouldn't it be nice if we went surfing? That's what kids in California, California do. And wouldn't it be nice to drink Buzz Soda?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It will make a zombie out of you.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Dress up like punks in all their leather finery do you know they make.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It in an oil refinery? Where's Mr. Menlo Schwarzer? He's so off. Awful. But he turned Florinda Budnik into Sparkle. Yeah, let's talk about it. I give this one five stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's the Balcony. That's the Balcony.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Voice of an angel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A great song with facts.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's unheard of from the Balcony.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so here's the deal, everybody. The reviews on Amazon kind of suck. All right? They're just not good. So we kind of pulled these from everywhere. And this first one is from Letterbox. And this is from Justin Laliberty. And Justin writes, this was released five months before Gremlins and features a movie theater scene where mutant punks eat the film out of the projector and causes the film to burn the screen. Surf 2 was ahead of Joe Dante. Four stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Four stars.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's all I got.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, I like it. I like it.

[Paul Scheer]

This is just from an IMDb user named Benger. Title. Maybe this was in a different beach comedy. I think I remember this movie. Was there a scene in this movie where the big guy is eating a sub sandwich and seagulls crapped it out and then he ate it again? 10 out of 10 stars.

[Jessica St. Clair]

See, it's in everybody's repressed memories.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh yeah.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Surf 2.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is Surf 2 and I never would have found it. It just was a. What? A happy accident.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah. What?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This triggered a real memory for me. A happy one.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know where this one is from, but it's worth the read. From Kerouac fan.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Written from I see on the Road.

[Paul Scheer]

An acquaintance of mine recommended this film when we were trying to define beat as in a beat neck type that is not authentic as Kerouac, but like still fun, he said. But don't get fooled by Beat. A very unbeat movie starring Kiefer the Reefer and Courtney the Love Chile. My suggestion is you check out Surf 2 instead. There is no Surf 1. One of the most beat movies ever made. So is there a chance of releasing this cult film on DVD so I can afford to see five stars?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, is that review in free verse? Like, what? Did E.E. cummings write that review?

[Paul Scheer]

I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's all Lowercase and punctuation list.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

These are references.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's. And that. I mean, that's really all that I got.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Because they're so weird. I mean, this one's really fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm surprised. I feel like there would be a lot of people who were like, yes, I love. You know, like, in that way that I feel like all these 80s movies.

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of them are like this from Thomas Brandon. Spoiler alert. I haven't seen this movie since the early 80s when I rented it. And I remember dudes drinking motor oil and eating garbage and fish carcasses. My favorite scene is when these two server buddies are too enthralled with their own surfing stories to notice that both their girlfriends have unclothed. Then they finally notice in its buccoli manner and go, you guys are nude. And then they go right back to the. The surf discussion. It's got nerds, it's got surfers, it's got zombies, it's got hotties, it's got weirdos, it's got garbage eating, motor oil drinking, and a beauty named Crystal or something like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did I write this?

[Paul Scheer]

And it goes. My guess is that it never went to DVD because it's too obscure. If anyone's reading this and you can get a copy, do it. 10 stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, that's. Yeah. These are wild reviews. I think that we hit all the major. Like, yeah, real question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What would you rather do if we could make Surf three or do we make Surf one? I feel like making Surf one would be wild. And especially if Surf one took place today.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's what I think you'd have to do. There has to be a time. Time travel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. It establishes time travel. That makes sense with this movie. But this movie, of course, would not know.

[Paul Scheer]

I like this a lot because then we could actually use Eric Stoltz from today.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, yes, yes. And he plays like Papa Stoltz.

[Paul Scheer]

Surf 1 colon. 2026.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Great idea.

[Paul Scheer]

2025.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Surf 1. 2026. Dash. It rubs the lotion on its skin. But. But it's suntan lotion.

[Paul Scheer]

Surf 1. Silence of the waves.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Silence.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ooh, I bet we can beat this. I feel like we can beat this. Silence of the seals.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Silence of the seals.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm trying to think of a sim. A beach animal. Clam.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Silence of the clam.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Fuck.

[Jessica St. Clair]

That's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

God damn it.

[Paul Scheer]

Holy. That's a shirt. Surf One Twenty.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's gotta be the T shirt.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Surf One's 2025. Silence of the clams.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Silence of the clams.

[Jessica St. Clair]

All right. I like it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It rubs the suntan lotion on its skin.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's. No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

It puts lotion on the shell.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Puts the lotion on its shell.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Fine. Now I'm having fun again.

[Paul Scheer]

Would you recommend this movie? Jason, Jessica all the Way.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Absolutely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, this. With the possible exception of Kraven the Hunter, this tour's movies have all been bangers. But this is head and shoulders above them all. A. This right here. This right here is a. How did this get made? Thank God this got made.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because this is for me. This goes in the. This is a top five movie. Paul has taken off the T shirt.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. Paul has taken off the T shirt.

[Jessica St. Clair]

It's even better.

[Paul Scheer]

Paul.

[Jessica St. Clair]

God. God, you look good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This looks so good.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, you got to love the shirt. Smells great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think you got to. You got to unbutton one more.

[Jessica St. Clair]

One more. Give the ladies what they want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, we got. I feel like St. Clair and I need to leave. One picture needs to be just you in this for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a. Just quick watch den of thief 2 now on netflix. All right. This movie is. What a fine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look at you. You're manspreading in that shirt.

[Jessica St. Clair]

You're a whole different person.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The shirt is a fine. Affecting Paul's personality.

[Jessica St. Clair]

This is outrageous. He's got a squid.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just got a text from Paul. It says, please call me Big Nick for the rest of our lives.

[Paul Scheer]

Big Paul. Big Paul, June and Jess.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait. Big Paul, June and Jess. I'm out. Just like that. I'm out, baby.

[Paul Scheer]

We're back.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Big Paul, June and Jess. Yes, I'm right here. Wait a second. Did I die? Am I a ghost? And if I am, why am I still on tour?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so we would recommend this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, hell yeah. I would recommend the hell out of this.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I loved it. It was great. I did get nauseous.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's worth chasing down.

[Paul Scheer]

No, you don't have to because it's re released now. You can get on vinegar syndrome. You don't. If you want to buy it and have the. The DVD special features, a bunch of great stuff. They restored it. It's great. If you want to do what I did and sign up for fan, we're.

[Jessica St. Clair]

Going to be paying for that for the rest of our lives.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, but you know what? I didn't know there were streaming services, like $99 a month. You give it to us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give us the money. This is the kind of thing because every once in a while, we'll run across a movie that's hard to find. And I will say, a lot of times, you can probably not this one. Find it at the library.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, the library.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's right. Any librarians in the house? That's right. Stand up. If you're a librarian. Give me houseline.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you, librarian.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for these heroes. Give it up for these heroes of books. Give it up for these heroes. We've got librarians in the balcony. What the hell? Incredible stuff. Great, great work, librarians.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, want to promote anything?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'll plug a few things. Sure. Invincible season three just aired. Incredible. Season taskmaster, season 19. Let's go, America. Let's show these British fucks what's up. May 1st, United States, YouTube, and then we'll throw it out to the end of an era. Big Mouth Season 8, the end of May. Wow, wow, wow. And also Surf2, promoting it.

[Paul Scheer]

Jess, what do you got?

[Jessica St. Clair]

Yes, please come and listen to the Deep dive podcast with Ms. June Diane Rayfield. And if you'd like to join our academy of celebrity significance, the Deep Dive Academy. I know I have some students in the audience. Mummy loves you. Mommy loves you. And if you would like to learn how to small talk, the audiobook, the Art of Small Talk, I wrote with Casey Wilson, is available anywhere you would get your audiobook.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a great audiobook. I love it so, so much. Well, first of all, there's a little server, little streamer called Netflix, and they're showing a film called den of thieves 2. Pantera. Check it out. Do you like exciting, slick thievery? You'll fucking love this movie. No doubt. And I'm not just saying that because I'm wearing Gerard Butler's shirt from den of Thieves 2.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wish you could just start slowly, slowly making yourself, like, into a Scottish brogue.

[Paul Scheer]

I was trying, and it was like, it's gonna be embarrassing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

It's the only movie that, when June said, what do you want to do for your birthday? Said den of Thieves 2. Also the dark web. Every Monday on YouTube, Rob Huebel and I, we search the Dark Web. We find lawyers who make Instagram videos after they get their clients acquitted. We revisit shows like Passions and dissect all the weirder shit. I order stuff from him. I order stuff off of 10 Temu. And we look at it. It's all weird stuff. It's free on. On YouTube, the dark web. And that's it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And here. Can I shout out one more, please? I Have a local shout out.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

For Easy Street Records, right? That's right. Holy shit. What a great record store. I spent the afternoon there and I spent money. Now I have like 10 pounds of vinyl on tour. Huge mistake. But thank you, Easy Street Records. Wow. Home run. Thank you, Seattle.

[Paul Scheer]

You have been absolutely incredible. I'll be out there signing books in just a couple minutes. Thank you so much for coming. Good night.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Eat shit, Seattle.

[Paul Scheer]

Seattle, I love you. And that's why we are coming back to Seattle on July 9th. Jason, myself, Rob Hubel, Mary Holland, Carl Tart. We are doing Dinosaur Improv on July 9th at the Neptune Theater. You can get your [e-mail] we'll also be in Portland where we're adding a second show on July 10th. That's right. You bought so many tickets, we added a second show. And then the real big show we are going to Vancouver for. How did this get made? Jason, June and myself doing the Stallone classic Driven. That's right. A movie that forced Jay Leno to appear on Siskel and Ebert just to say how bad it was. That is not a bit. That is real. So a bunch of shows in the Pacific Northwest, Seattle on the 9th, Portland on the 10th, and Vancouver on the 12th. Get [e-mail] and a big shout out to our producers, Cody Fisher, Scott Sauni, Molly Reynolds, and our amazing movie picking producer, Avril Halley. And our engineer, Casey Holford. All right, everybody, that is all for now. We will see you next week as we tackle Last Looks and we want you to bring up your corrections and omissions. What did you see that we might have missed from Surf 2? And probably there was a lot because there wasn't enough time to break this movie down. All right, people, join us next week on Last Looks. And if you haven't been listening to Last Looks, you're missing out. Out. We've had Larry Charles, one of the prominent voices in comedy, on the show last episode. So listen to these. We have great, great guests. Last Looks is where it's at. See you next time. Bye for now. Hi there, it's Andy Richter and I'm here to tell you about my podcast, the three Questions with Andy Richter. Each week I invite you friends, comedians, actors and musicians to discuss these three where do you come from, where are you going, and what have you learned? New episodes are out every Tuesday with guests like Julie Bow and Ted Danson, Tig Notaro, Will Arnett, Phoebe Bridgers, and more. You can also tune in for my weekly Andy Richter call in show episodes where me and a special guest invite callers to weigh in on topics like.

[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jessica St. Clair]

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