The Wraith LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)

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Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? – "The Wraith LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"

Introduction In the March 18, 2025 episode of How Did This Get Made? titled "The Wraith LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)," hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas, alongside guest comedian Eliza Skinner and actor Randy Quaid, delve deep into the bewildering 1980s film The Wraith. Filmed live at Largo at the Coronet in Los Angeles, the episode promises an in-depth and humorous dissection of what many consider one of the best worst movies ever created.

Plot Overview The Wraith centers on Jamie Hankins (played by Charlie Sheen), a high school student whose brutal murder leads to his supernatural return as "The Wraith." Armed with a high-tech Dodge Charger, The Wraith seeks revenge on those responsible for his death while restoring justice to the quiet town of Ran Harbor.

Acting and Characters The hosts and guests express a mix of confusion and admiration for the film's cast performances, highlighting Charlie Sheen's limited screen time and Randy Quaid's standout role.

• Paul Scheer remarks, “[the Wraith] is like an art gallery more than a movie” (09:04).
• Tim Baltz adds humorously, “I was super confused” (15:00).
• Randy Quaid cheekily comments on his own role, stating, “Randy Quaid gives that actress a look like, I'm so sorry, honey” (20:31).

Plot and Logic A significant portion of the discussion critiques the movie's convoluted and inconsistent plot elements, such as the Wraith's multiple identities and the unclear mechanics of his supernatural abilities.

• Paul Scheer questions the logic behind the Wraith's scars, saying, “But why would a ghost need, like, body cast?” (28:31).
• Eliza Skinner points out, “This movie was like a bad fairy tale” (15:28).

Specific Scenes and Visuals The hosts dissect several perplexing scenes, including the Wraith's mysterious appearance, the inconsistent use of Charlie Sheen's character, and the overabundance of trash in chase sequences.

• Paul Scheer highlights the inconsistent portrayal of the Wraith, noting, “He's three characters in this movie” (64:47).
• Eliza Skinner humorously critiques the visual representation of the Wraith’s undergarments, stating, “It's a weird phantom crack” (25:22).

Themes and Theories The conversation ventures into speculative territory, with theories likening the movie to Jacob's Ladder and pondering the symbolic meanings behind the Wraith's actions.

• Tim Baltz suggests, “It could be a Jacob's Ladder scenario” (62:03).
• Paul Scheer theorizes, “If he could just be Charlie Sheen” (33:07).

Audience Reactions and Reviews The episode features a humorous review segment where the hosts read bizarre and unfitting Amazon reviews praising The Wraith, further emphasizing the movie’s cult status despite its flaws.

• Paul Scheer reads a nonsensical review: “This magnet has a review of the Wraith underneath it” (84:54).
• Randy Quaid comments on the absurdity, “How did they get so much air up?” (58:31).

Guest Insights Guest Randy Quaid shares his experiences working on the film, providing insider perspectives on the production and his character's quirks.

• Randy Quaid explains his character's confusion: “Why does he have those scars?” (72:50).
• Eliza Skinner reflects on Quaid's performance, noting, “He's just, like, counting down” (74:06).

Conclusion Wrapping up the episode, the hosts acknowledge the film's many inconsistencies and baffling elements but also celebrate its unique place in cinematic history. They encourage listeners to join the conversation and share their own theories and reactions.

• Paul Scheer concludes with enthusiasm, “I think we've uncovered as much as we can with The Wraith” (90:44).
• Eliza Skinner and Tim Baltz add their final thoughts, blending humor with genuine appreciation for the movie’s cult appeal.

Notable Quotes:

• Paul Scheer (09:04): “This movie is like an art gallery more than a movie.”
• Tim Baltz (15:00): “I had a lot of confusion” regarding the plot.
• Randy Quaid (20:31): “Randy Quaid gives that actress a look like, I'm so sorry, honey.”
• Eliza Skinner (25:22): “It's a weird phantom crack.”

Final Thoughts This episode of How Did This Get Made? serves both as a nostalgic dive into an 80s cult classic and a humorous critique of its numerous flaws. Through lively discussion and sharp wit, the hosts and guests provide listeners with an entertaining exploration of why The Wraith endures as a beloved piece of "so bad it's good" cinema.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

See guarantee [e-mail] guarantees Lord when I die bring me back as a killer dodge and let me take care of everyone who wronged me we saw the Wraith so you know what that means. Remake how did Schwarzenegger grow baby in his belly Rock a rhinestone vest while whipping Justin the Kelly or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Throw and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control J Man Big Paul in the beautiful June gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room Ran the games and Street Fighter Hope to blow off steam just to suck a punch the odd life of Timothy Green shot natal deferred to how we staying alive they call it in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause a bad Jim Barney looking kind and nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you. How did this hello people of Earth and hello people of Largo. We are live here at Largo at the Coronet, our LA home, one of the best theaters here in Los Angeles. And we are so excited to talk to you tonight about a movie that can be barely called a movie. The Wraith. Charlie Sheen, Sherilyn Fenn, Randy Quaid, Nick Cassavetes, and of course, Ron Howard's brother. It is a great, great film and we have a lot to say about it. But first, please welcome my co host, Jason Manzoukas. Welcome.

[Tim Baltz]

What's up jerks? How' everybody doing? I'm gonna. I'm gonna be honest. You guys seem quiet for a 10pm show. Not enough drunk people.

[Paul Scheer]

They'll all be coming in in five minutes of the podcast. Oh, I thought it was 10:30. 10:30. So, Jason, before the show started, I was saying to the audience that I remember the COVID box of this movie when I worked at Blockbuster. Did you?

[Tim Baltz]

I had no concept of this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Tim Baltz]

And I don't know how it escaped me because it's got like a bunch of my favorite stuff in it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Dodges.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep. Sherilyn Fenn's boobs.

[Paul Scheer]

She got naked a lot.

[Tim Baltz]

She got naked a lot. It was wild. Chuck E. Sheen.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Chuckie Sheen. So good. Pre platoons.

[Tim Baltz]

I didn't know this movie. And I mean like, this is like. I don't know how it escaped me because I feel like it's straight into when I was a kid.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

The age that you would be watching movies like this.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. You would want to watch a movie.

[Tim Baltz]

About it doesn't matter. Who cares? I'm going to be honest. This is a giant. Who cares?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you know what? We should. We'll talk about it all we can.

[Tim Baltz]

Or not. I don't care.

[Paul Scheer]

This show will just be all of us having brunch up here. We'll just be casual conversation.

[Tim Baltz]

We have chardonnay.

[Paul Scheer]

Today is a how did this get made? All star show. Which means that instead of having the wonderful, talented Junior, we are gonna have one of the amazing, hilarious guests of previous episodes. You remember her from a episode called the Phantom with Billy Zane. She has been on other episodes as well. She's a very funny stand up comedian. She works for the James Corden show. Please welcome Eliza Skinner.

[Eliza Skinner]

Ye. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome back. You did. You did the Phantom with us and you also did.

[Eliza Skinner]

Didn't you do that Safe house.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, Safe house. Oh, classic romance.

[Eliza Skinner]

When we all had a moment.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we are dragging you through these movies.

[Eliza Skinner]

No, man, I would have been watching them anyway.

[Paul Scheer]

Wraith. Any. Did you know about it before?

[Eliza Skinner]

I didn't. And I'm shocked. I also like so many of my favorite things. When I was a little girl, I had like a huge little girl boner for Charlie Sheen because my good taste goes back way far.

[Tim Baltz]

I had a great little boy boner for Clint Howard.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, exactly. Sure. By the way, I think but Clint as a blonde.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know Clint Howard in this movie who's doing his, like, best version of like Eraserhead.

[Eliza Skinner]

Everyone in this movie was in a different movie.

[Tim Baltz]

Clint Howard is my favorite part of this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Before we bring on our special guest.

[Tim Baltz]

I'll say the make him wait.

[Paul Scheer]

The Clint Howard, though, is always like a very quick scene in every movie. So my thought is we should make him longer in these movies because he does deliver consistently. I feel like this is the longest Clint Howard performance.

[Tim Baltz]

I really want there to be a Clint Howard Brian Doyle Murray movie.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, how about they just remake the trip that Steve Coogan Von Roby? Just have them them in a car.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

Going through the countryside.

[Eliza Skinner]

Perfect.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love to see that.

[Eliza Skinner]

I feel like Steve Howard went through the script and just put exclamation points at the end of every one of his lines and was like, now it's a movie.

[Tim Baltz]

You lose the race, you lose your car. Okay, the first one, the dragonfire crossing wins.

[Paul Scheer]

You lose the race, you lose your car. By the way, what is it?

[Tim Baltz]

It's a wraith.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, him putting him putting exclamation points there, I would argue is probably more than any of the other actors did. That simple act. We have a very special guest tonight. This guy. You know him from the CISO show, Bajillion dollar properties and the brand new show in which he stars Shrink. Please welcome Tim Baltz.

[Tim Baltz]

Baltz. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.

[Paul Scheer]

Tim, welcome to the show. Very excited to have you.

[Randy Quaid]

So excited to be here to talk about this pile of shit movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, let me ask you the same question. Did you know anything about the Wraith before it was assigned to you?

[Randy Quaid]

I had the older brother of one of my friends, had the vhs and he was like, don't watch it. It sucks. So we never watched it.

[Tim Baltz]

That kid is a fucking idiot. Because I'm gonna go on record as saying this movie was fucking awesome. I was heavy into this movie. I was into it.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie to me is. It's like an art gallery more than a movie. It's like.

[Tim Baltz]

It's images, an art gallery, sound and move.

[Paul Scheer]

Art gallery. Like an art. Like a. Like there's just Something going on. Like, it doesn't co. Like, I don't feel like it works as a movie. I feel like, oh, that's a cool image. That's an interesting idea. That's an interesting character. That's a cool costume. But they all feel like. Like a million other people. Like, it was like, oh, yeah, I went to an art gallery. Here's 10 different paintings. I like all of them, but there's no thing that like, collects them together besides that they're all in one place.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah. People are making real strong choices, though. I feel like. So all these different actors in this were like, I'm gonna fix it. I got this. Just like, did something super weird.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, the movie starts off and this is where I thought it was an Alien movie. I thought right out of the. These little orbs kind of similar to solar babies. Another movie that we did here in the show are racing down the highways, paying attention to the roads, not just flying across the country, curving with the roads. And four of them, which is another odd thing. Four of these balls of light converge to create a Dodge car.

[Eliza Skinner]

That's how they make them.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, that makes sense. But it's interesting too, because it's like.

[Tim Baltz]

But you know what? Dodge used to be made by American workers.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, do not.

[Tim Baltz]

It was all these lights outsourced to the heaven where they were assembled by wraiths. You know what? I don't want these wraiths coming in. Why don't we build a wall?

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, Come on now. But there is something weird about this. Like, I mean, not that this is the thing I'm gonna hang my hat on about. It doesn't make sense.

[Tim Baltz]

But it is a nice hat, though.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you. It's from Jimmy Durante.

[Tim Baltz]

Put a bra on her.

[Paul Scheer]

Decidedly an alien esque opening. Like, there's nothing here. Like, for the longest time, I'm like, this is an alien.

[Tim Baltz]

I thought that as well.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

Where are they coming from? Obviously some kind of foreign place. And then they come together to make this Dodge.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Who doesn't. To me, didn't seem like. I mean, well, I guess they reveal that, you know, there's a driver to it who's all. Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

I had a lot of confusion.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

In this movie that I loved.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

And a lot of it centered around. I didn't understand why Charlie Sheen had to be in the get up as the driver of the car.

[Eliza Skinner]

Wait, Charlie Sheen was the driver of the car? I'm kidding.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this is. This is. Yeah. This is the interesting thing. I mean, so basically just Because I think we. To talk about this movie, we have to just kind of get the plot out. So Charlie Sheen was a guy who looks similar to Charlie Sheen, who was badly murdered and now has come back as a wraith who drives a kick ass car and is murdering all the people that were involved in his death.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Also a motorbike, but he also is.

[Tim Baltz]

A high school student who's riding like a motorcycle and is reconnecting with the girlfriend that he had just finished fucking when he was murdered and the brother.

[Eliza Skinner]

That he pretends to not know.

[Tim Baltz]

Yes, but he's.

[Eliza Skinner]

And dislike.

[Tim Baltz]

But Charlie Sheen in the flashbacks does not play that character.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Tim Baltz]

So that character is another actor. He is like an angel of death. Well, like a revenge.

[Eliza Skinner]

Doesn't he at the end say, like, this is the closest I could get?

[Tim Baltz]

Yes, he basically does.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, here's an interesting thing about the movie. Charlie Sheen booked Platoon right when this movie started production, so he couldn't play the other version of himself. He was supposed to play both parts. But if that's true, then it makes this movie make zero sense because immediately.

[Tim Baltz]

Upon arrival, everybody would be like, oh, my God, it's you. Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Well, and also, wasn't Johnny Depp up for it? And like, there. Because he was. He was dating Sherilyn Fenn at the time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Johnny Depp was dating Sherilyn Fenn, but I didn't hear anything that he was up for it as much. He was up for one of the gang members.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, Augury.

[Randy Quaid]

Augie. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

So he was not. Yeah, so he would. He was just having sex with Sherilyn Finn in a hotel. One of the facts I read was, like, he lived with the crew in the crew motel. Which sounds like. I don't know, like, I don't know why it was a distinction. Like, you know, like, as if like Nick Cassavetes, like, I live in the fancy hotel here. But no, but if Charlie Sheen was supposed to play both parts, then I guess maybe it would be creepy when he came to the town, like, we killed him.

[Tim Baltz]

Well, what was weird is, like, give.

[Eliza Skinner]

Him frosted tips and nobody in an 80s movie would know when he's in.

[Tim Baltz]

The hot tub with Sherilyn Fenn or the hot spring or whatever it is he has the scars on his back of the murder that was done to him. She straight up doesn't notice.

[Randy Quaid]

Well, I was worried about that.

[Tim Baltz]

You were worried about it?

[Randy Quaid]

I was worried about it. I was worried.

[Tim Baltz]

What were you worried about?

[Randy Quaid]

I was worried about it because I thought, like, oh, well, this Is gonna. Everyone's gonna know who this guy is. Right. And the element of surprise is gone. And then these guys are gonna think, like, oh, that's the guy that we brutally murdered in front of his ex girlfriend.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. Who doesn't remember it Immediately doesn't remember it.

[Randy Quaid]

Well, I don't think it's a spoiler, but they do put a blanket over her head right away.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah. And punch her in the head.

[Randy Quaid]

They punch her in the head.

[Tim Baltz]

Like, they repeatedly show them punching Sherilyn Fenny in the head.

[Paul Scheer]

But why?

[Eliza Skinner]

And, I mean, there's so many different suspects in town. Been.

[Randy Quaid]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Especially the first time. They're at the creek, and Charlie Sheen is there, and he's, like, staring at her. And Cassavetes is there. He's the bad guy. He's staring, and they're like, oh, don't get caught by this bad guy. And you're like, well, it can't be that obvious. He's not the villain, right? Nope. Flashback to the brutal murder where he is the killer immediately. So all of a sudden you're like, oh, oh, all right. Well, we know where this is headed.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, and it's also so bizarre because they kill her boyfriend, and then it seems like immediately he's into this, like, kidnapping, dating that they do. Like, they don't. They're not dating.

[Tim Baltz]

I can't figure.

[Paul Scheer]

Kidnaps her every.

[Tim Baltz]

Every day after work. That's like, every day after work, I'm kidnapping you.

[Eliza Skinner]

That's the part of the movie that's like a bad fairy tale.

[Tim Baltz]

This, the whole Nick Cassavetes and his crew felt like a bad Grease sequel to me. Like, what if Danny Zuko went evil.

[Eliza Skinner]

Punks?

[Randy Quaid]

They were a weird mix of, like, punks. Like, some of them look like high school, like, ska band members, and then others look like future Goldman Sachs execs.

[Eliza Skinner]

I'll be honest. I know we haven't even. We've only scratched the surface of the actual plot of this movie still. But for me, the whole movie was Gutter Boy.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, Gutter Boy and Skank.

[Eliza Skinner]

Skank I could have carried or not, but Gutter Boy, really, there was a skater. I mean, yeah, there was, like, a real, like, heart there. You know, I was like, what's gonna happen to Gutter Boy? And I think we all know the.

[Tim Baltz]

Most compelling love story to me was Gutter Boy and Skank.

[Eliza Skinner]

That is true. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Lot of duck butter out at the lake today. Pack Quiff City, here I come. See that guy over there? The one with Billy Hankins?

[Randy Quaid]

What about him?

[Paul Scheer]

Looks like a dork to me. A lot of dorks going around these days, gang. Whole town sees him with him crawling out of the woodworks. Shut up. Okay, Joyce, that motorbike over there, you see him or Billy around?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kerry, I want to know about it.

[Randy Quaid]

Oh, shit, Pack.

[Paul Scheer]

I'd rather be working on the cars than. Hey, hey. We'll remind the cog Stacker. Use our influence. Hey, guy, we use the influence. Get rid of that zombie piss you're drinking before it turns you into a mushroom. No problem. Zombie piss? Yeah, right. Is he drinking gasoline?

[Eliza Skinner]

He's hydraulic acid in one scene. Because it's a jug that says hydraulic acid.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

And he, like. He, like, sprays a, like a can of like, WD40 into his nose at one point.

[Eliza Skinner]

He does offer it around, usually, so.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, it's interesting that you. You bring up again, I don't know if I know exactly the difference between them, but Gutter Boy, I think, is doing an impression of James Dean. Our resident video expert Avril Halley put this together here. This is basically Gutter Boy. Let's see here. We got it right here. This is a Rebel Without a Cause. And Gutter Boy, I believe. Here we go. So take a look at the exact same line.

[Tim Baltz]

I got the bullet.

[Paul Scheer]

I got the bullet.

[Eliza Skinner]

I'm telling you. Strong choices.

[Tim Baltz]

He also makes a lot of just noises. He's like, doing like.

[Paul Scheer]

We are introduced to this gang of. And I described them as Mad Max, rejected villains. It was sort of like, can you just do the stand in for the camera test? And then we're gonna use real actors and things. So we were introduced to them as they, like, stop this car on the road. Which, to me, this movie was made in 1986. It wasn't even that cool of a car that they stop. It kind of just seems like on normal. Like, it just seems like a fine car. Like a. Like, it doesn't seem fast, doesn't seem cool.

[Tim Baltz]

It's a fine car and you've got a fine car. Take me to plan.

[Paul Scheer]

But that, like. So they like. They basically like the whole thing with this gang, which has nothing to do with the plot, really. This gang races people for their car. The pink slips. That's the grease element, I guess, of it. And then they get to keep the car. But the first scene, again, they're racing for shitty.

[Tim Baltz]

I kept getting confused between that first scene thinking those people were important.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Tim Baltz]

And thinking then that they were Sherilyn Fenn and the murdered guy. And I was like, wait, no, it's not them. And I got super confused.

[Eliza Skinner]

No, but it's.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it makes no sense that, like.

[Tim Baltz]

Again, I love this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Why not just start off with like the Charlie Sheen thing and Charlie Sheen's murder or the fake Charlie Sheen's murder? Is this like he's having sex with his underwear on, like all cool dudes do. Just slip out your peen out of that little slot in your undies and keep your undies on.

[Eliza Skinner]

Wait, why are people laughing? Is that not the thing to do?

[Tim Baltz]

Is that, oh, dude, I always keep my undies when I'm going to the bar too.

[Paul Scheer]

For a movie that has a lot of nudity in it for him to keep on his underpants was so odd. It made me feel uncomfortable.

[Randy Quaid]

Did you, did you get a close look at him?

[Paul Scheer]

The guy?

[Randy Quaid]

I went back, I went back to show my girlfriend. I was like, we're waiting for the Uber to come here. And I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to show you. I'm going to show you one scene and it's going to be the first flashback to the brutal murder scene. And of course, like, I'm giggling at it and she's looking at me like, what's wrong with you? What show am I about to go see?

[Tim Baltz]

Does this story end with you getting dumped on the way to this show?

[Randy Quaid]

Maybe after this show. And I'm looking at, I look at the underwear again, I'm like, they're like weirdly like silk, translucent, super tight, smaller than they should be, but not a thong.

[Paul Scheer]

It was actually the same underwear that Sofia Coppola used for the beginning of Lost in Translation.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

Just one thing also just to point out, we talked about Charlie Sheen not being available due to platoon shooting. The also not only was did they not use them as the flashback Charlie Sheen, they also used him throughout the movie. If you see here, we're playing a picture. One picture is of Charlie Sheen and one is not. It's the same scene when they're both in the hot springs. One is Charlie Sheen, one is not Charlie Sheen.

[Eliza Skinner]

Her hair is totally different too. That's what I noticed about this one. That I was like, why did they reshoot that? Why did they have to?

[Paul Scheer]

So yeah, Charlie Sheen not available for a lot of this movie. And really only I would argue probably Is only in, like, oh, very long, three or four scenes, right?

[Tim Baltz]

Well, the majority of it, he's wearing the helmeted getup.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Wait, he's wearing the helmet at get up?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Can I tell you the first? By the way, here's the underwear. We do have a picture of the underwear. Yeah, There you go.

[Randy Quaid]

Yes.

[Eliza Skinner]

Look at that. Yeah. Is that a American Apparel 2008?

[Tim Baltz]

That could be a jock strap.

[Paul Scheer]

You think?

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, yeah, that could just be a strap.

[Eliza Skinner]

Because what happens to his crack?

[Tim Baltz]

But why can't I see the crack?

[Eliza Skinner]

It's a weird phantom crack.

[Tim Baltz]

I can see the crack, but you.

[Eliza Skinner]

Can'T see all of it.

[Tim Baltz]

I'm looking at just butt.

[Paul Scheer]

I feel like. I feel like it's being sucked in by his butt because his dick is breathing and it's sucking the underwear through his butt, right?

[Eliza Skinner]

What, the old dick brat?

[Tim Baltz]

Sure, his dick is breathing.

[Paul Scheer]

You know when you have sex, your dick breathes and then sucks in the butt.

[Eliza Skinner]

So you're saying you poke it through.

[Tim Baltz]

The hole and whatever's against the asshole gets. So it's like when you open a door in one room and a door across the room gets closed, that's exactly what's going on.

[Randy Quaid]

Wait, that would be the dick exhaling and pushing the fabric forward and then pulling the other fabric into the butt.

[Eliza Skinner]

I mean, this is way too sexy.

[Tim Baltz]

I guess it is underwear, but it.

[Paul Scheer]

Looks almost like a, like, jock strap weirdness. And am I saying that her underwear is also in an odd position too? Or is that about right? Is that her butt? I mean, she's kind of.

[Tim Baltz]

I can't figure out.

[Eliza Skinner]

I don't know what's happening.

[Paul Scheer]

Cause she looks like she has, like, the front part of her underwear on her.

[Eliza Skinner]

I feel like on her hip, that.

[Tim Baltz]

Triangle is in the wrong place.

[Paul Scheer]

These people do not want to have.

[Eliza Skinner]

Sex or wear underwear. She just put it on wrong.

[Paul Scheer]

This is. Oh, that's a disturbing sequence. But yeah, so, yeah, so there's a lot going on in this movie. So there's a lot of drag racing.

[Eliza Skinner]

With the rules are always lose the race, lose your car. Which. Why would anyone ever agree to that?

[Tim Baltz]

Win the race, win they're pressured into it.

[Eliza Skinner]

I don't know. I feel like drive away. Also, you're in a car in a.

[Paul Scheer]

Movie where you're trying to show, like, these are the toughest guys you'll ever meet. I don't think it's cool when the guy puts on a helmet. Like, Nick Cassidy's like, put on my helmet, everybody.

[Tim Baltz]

Everybody puts on helmets to Drag race. Nobody puts on a helmet to ride a motorcycle.

[Randy Quaid]

They do jumps. Charlie Sheen does a jump with Sherilyn Finn in that motorcycle for a bunch of trash. Neither one of them are wearing a helmet.

[Paul Scheer]

No. It's crazy. I feel like in that sequence, the trash is causing more of the problem than anything else going on there. It almost looks like they're aiming for trash. Everybody in that chase is, like, hit the trash. Like, they literally blow through so much. So much trash in there. They're jumping trash. They're hitting trash. Which is just, you know, basically just a way to say that they have no money. We'll line up some more garbage bags here. But, yeah, trash. Trash is flying. Flying through the window. More trash. It's as if someone is throwing a garbage bag full of cans.

[Tim Baltz]

They don't have to drive into the trash.

[Eliza Skinner]

No, there's plenty of room.

[Tim Baltz]

There is so much room on the other side. Like, Skank is driving right into the trash.

[Eliza Skinner]

But they spent all their money on exploding cars.

[Paul Scheer]

True. Yeah. And that the Dodge car that he has. This is another thing. When finally Charlie Sheen is racing, his car does the thing where it disappears. Or I guess it. No, it just pulls in front and everyone crashes through it. And then it disappears, and then it comes back stronger sometimes.

[Tim Baltz]

And also, like, the weird.

[Eliza Skinner]

Sometimes it sucks your eyeballs out.

[Tim Baltz]

The mechanical elements of his body, like, disappear from the crash site.

[Paul Scheer]

But why was he mechanical to begin with? He wasn't a man whose body was broken. It's not like robocop. He was. He was, like, kind of beaten and shoved into a.

[Tim Baltz]

He's a ghost.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. So why would a ghost need, like, body cast?

[Eliza Skinner]

Like, I feel like it was just like this. It was part of his outfit. So the film was like, hey, remember, it's that guy, like, trying to draw a line between them.

[Paul Scheer]

But then they should have broken his legs. And also they should have.

[Tim Baltz]

I agree, Paul. They should have broken his legs.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's like he's. But it's like. It seems iconic. Like, he's wearing leg braces.

[Tim Baltz]

But I kept expecting that to get explained.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Like, I kept expecting at some point, I'm gonna understand why he needs the exoskeleton. Why he. Why? And that doesn't happen. Also, I loved the movie. It never. It never got explained.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah. It seems like something that Billy the Chatty Nerd would explain in one of his exposition piles.

[Paul Scheer]

Billy the Chatty Nerd, who is the brother of Faux Charlie Sheen, that guy knows how to dump exposition. Like nobody's business.

[Eliza Skinner]

Just a hot pile of exposition every.

[Paul Scheer]

Time he's in a scene I've never seen. Like, I mean, that guy was like. Like, hey, my name is Billy. Anyway, my brother was killed. He used to date that girl over there. I work at the hamburger shop. No big deal. But that guy is bad news. He's real craz. The guy don't look over there. And they drive that car fuel in the town cost $1.99. The year is 1986. We all live in track houses. Anyway, the last report card I got was this. It's like, Jesus.

[Eliza Skinner]

And during all of that, his dead brother back from the grave was like, you suck. Like, he. He just was, like, really nasty to him at first.

[Tim Baltz]

His brother comes back from the grave and spends no time with him.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

His brother spends all of his time, his ghost brother, just trying to get back in Sherilyn Fenn's pants. Like, I would be super bummed. And then he's like, I'm outta here, bro. And then the kid is heartbroken. He's like, wait, wait. He can't believe it was his dead brother.

[Eliza Skinner]

My favorite line in the movie. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Jake, Jake, Jake.

[Eliza Skinner]

Jamie.

[Randy Quaid]

Hey, Jake.

[Tim Baltz]

Who are you?

[Randy Quaid]

Jake.

[Eliza Skinner]

Jake.

[Tim Baltz]

Jamie.

[Paul Scheer]

That. My favorite thing about that was that.

[Eliza Skinner]

Charlie Sheen, like, signed on to make this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

He knew where his money was. Platoon is like, guys, can't do this movie anymore. Sorry. But like. Like, he doesn't even tell him in a good way. He's sort of like. He tells Sharon Finn. Like, he's like, yeah, I came back and I come back for you and whatever. And he's basically the only clue, the only way that he tells his brother is like, this kid happens to call him bro. Like, hey, bro. Hey, bro. He's like, you already said it. And then it takes him about three minutes to put that together. Already said it. Jake, Jake. Oh, brother. Jamie.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah. And also, I love the goodbye is like, hey, I'm gonna leave, but you can have this murder weapon.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

And murdered everyone with it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. Blameth all on you for sure.

[Eliza Skinner]

He's going to jail now. That's that for Billy. It's a terrible thing to do.

[Randy Quaid]

So he came back to life, A, for revenge, B, to fuck his hot ex girlfriend, right. Who he was brutally murdered in front of. And C, to frame his brother for all these revenge murders.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Eliza Skinner]

I also love that she had her boyfriend murdered in front of her. But she's, like, doing okay working at a burger shop, no biggie.

[Randy Quaid]

And the cops never asked her about it.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, she gets over that pretty quick. Besides being like date kidnapped. When Charlie Sheen pulls up on the motorcycle half naked and she's almost not wearing any clothes either. They're both like. He's like, I'll show you where it is. Let me jump on your back of your motorcycle. Like, it feels to me like Charlie Sheen was killed like three weeks ago. Like, it doesn't seem like. It doesn't seem like years have passed here. Right. Or maybe, I mean, again, that would be a part of exposition.

[Eliza Skinner]

I mean, it does look pretty different. So maybe I couldn't figure out how.

[Tim Baltz]

Old everybody was supposed to be. I felt like it had the hallmarks of like a high school movie. But not. Nobody was in school. At a certain point I was like, do you think this takes place during the summer? Like just between school years? I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

Well. Cause they all are going to that like quarry party.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, so they're not in school.

[Eliza Skinner]

That seems summer. And she wears a swimsuit for a minute or two. She takes it off. Yeah. It must have been the summer or they graduated and they're all in their 20s and should have been doing something better.

[Tim Baltz]

I don't know if they supposed to be like in their 20s and like kind of adults or not, because they're all acting like kids, you know, except.

[Eliza Skinner]

The 40 year old who's like an.

[Tim Baltz]

Old guy who's like running a chop shop out of a fucking barn out in this. I could make heads or tails out of it.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, Cassavetti.

[Tim Baltz]

I loved this movie.

[Eliza Skinner]

Have we discussed who Nick Cassavetes is?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, sure.

[Eliza Skinner]

He directed the Notebook.

[Tim Baltz]

Sure.

[Eliza Skinner]

But this is where he started. John Cassavetes son.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

He's like, what are you doing here?

[Paul Scheer]

It is an odd movie because I feel like again, everyone was sold a different bill of goods for this because they all came. I feel like they're all doing something. But no one like Woody Allen. I think is notorious for giving.

[Tim Baltz]

Only was Woody Allen in this.

[Eliza Skinner]

He was skank.

[Paul Scheer]

He's the guy in the black costume.

[Tim Baltz]

Woody Allen played gutter boy and introduced the as gutter boy, Woody Allen.

[Paul Scheer]

But like, you know, like Woody Allen's whole thing is that he gives you only the part of the script that's necessary for your character. Like, I feel like that's what everyone did here. It's like. Cause Nick Cassavetes, like there's something bizarre. Like there's something so bizarre with this character. Cause he also. He makes an agreement with a non talking car when they do catch the Dodge he's like, let's race. The door never opens. You know, like, there was a part of me that was like, is there even a driver in it? Is the car.

[Tim Baltz]

I thought that as well.

[Eliza Skinner]

I thought he was the car.

[Tim Baltz]

I thought he was the. I did as well.

[Eliza Skinner]

Okay. I said it first.

[Tim Baltz]

I'm just agreeing with you.

[Paul Scheer]

And like. Yeah, they make an agreement with a car that's not talking and not even talking. Like, revving engine talking. It's like, we're gonna race.

[Tim Baltz]

All right, get over here.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, the car.

[Tim Baltz]

Why does. And this. There might be a good reason that I just missed. Why does the car open its hood for Clint Howard to put something in it? What was that about?

[Eliza Skinner]

Because they wouldn't race otherwise. But it's not a good enough reason.

[Paul Scheer]

I think they were like, we gotta check your engine man to make sure that you were not, like, putting, like, illegal stuff in there.

[Eliza Skinner]

No, he wanted to put a thing in there, a radio controlled thing so that he couldn't. Couldn't disappear. So, like, when you try to disappear, we can find you. So you can't disappear after that. Yeah, right.

[Randy Quaid]

Yes. But also.

[Paul Scheer]

What?

[Eliza Skinner]

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. So. So he's like, open the hood and then the back open instead. And Clint Howard is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And he goes and looks and it's. I. I don't know if it was just so beautiful. No, it was, like, unexpected.

[Tim Baltz]

He basically jizzed his.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, he really did. He was like.

[Tim Baltz]

When he saw that motor again in.

[Eliza Skinner]

A different movie, but it was also.

[Paul Scheer]

It was also like lighting up. I was like. Like, it was not like. It wasn't. It was a extraterrestrial motor.

[Randy Quaid]

Yes. That's what they made it look like with the. With the graphic.

[Eliza Skinner]

I don't know. I wanted. I wanted it to be like, like pulsing and, like, have like, limbs and tentacles and stuff. It just like light up.

[Paul Scheer]

You can do Faces of the Dead.

[Tim Baltz]

Yes, yes.

[Eliza Skinner]

That would have been so good also.

[Randy Quaid]

Now, by today's standards, it just looks like a Prius engine.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

You know, they opened it up and I was like, yeah, look. That's pretty standard.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. It didn't look. It didn't look anything super abnormal. It just kind of glue a little. It glowed a little bit.

[Randy Quaid]

Cassavetes. He's got some of the best lines in the movie.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

I think. And to your point that he's just doing, like, his own thing. Someone else. He's got his own director, which, by the way, is Mike Marvin, which is a great name for two kids. In a trench coat, trying to direct a Hollywood movie.

[Tim Baltz]

It opened up.

[Randy Quaid]

The first thing that caught my eye was I'm just sitting there. I'm eating some snacks, and it says, a Mike Marvin film. And I'm like, what? Mike Marvin? And then the director of photography is Reed Smoot. So that means someone on set. Someone on set. Like a PA or like, the. You know, the, like, line. Unit director or something like that is like, Mike Marvin, Reed Smoot, Charlie Sheen. Yeah, it's gonna be good.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, just to give you an idea of what Mike Marvin is up to, Mike Marvin wrote Hot Dog, the movie Madame Savant, which is. This is a Playboy movie. And another movie called Sunstorm, which is just another movie where it's, like, where hot women just get naked in it. He directed also.

[Tim Baltz]

It's called Sun. What?

[Paul Scheer]

He directed Hamburger the Motion Picture, and he wrote Hot Dog the Mother. Just FYI. I just want to go back to that.

[Tim Baltz]

And he's in development right now on Burrito the Movie, and then the odd.

[Paul Scheer]

One out of the mix besides, like, movies like Wishman, the Dragon's Gate, Arranged Marriage, Getting Away, and Sunstorm is Six Pack, the Kenny Rogers movie. Right. Remember that? Like, where, like. Oh, there's a Kenny Rogers movie where, like, him. It's like Bad News Bears but for nascar. So it's like Kenny Rogers has, like, a group of kids, like, working on his car.

[Eliza Skinner]

Kid pit crew.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, kid pit crew. That's. Yeah, that's all I remember. I was like, cool when my dad brought it home and made me watch it. Like, when you have no chick.

[Tim Baltz]

Did you watch it?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Cause you sit here and you watch.

[Paul Scheer]

This, you know, like. Or at least like, when I was a kid, like, your parents would go to the video store, and you'd have no choice in what they would bring home. And, like, you'd like this syrup. Enjoy it. Like, you know, I feel like I watched, like, they were like, it's a kid movie. Watch it. I watched that. I watched one with John Ritter, and he was like a superhero, like Condor man or whatever it was. You ever see that?

[Tim Baltz]

No.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, man.

[Tim Baltz]

These are both amazing. So we should do a series that is just the movies of your childhood.

[Paul Scheer]

So many of them. I mean, I finally found the one that I was obsessed with, but I forgot the name of it again.

[Eliza Skinner]

It won't have a back to zero.

[Paul Scheer]

I would have told you, but I forgot the name of it.

[Tim Baltz]

Star Wars. Was it called Star Wars?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, that was it. It was. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Star Wars. Yeah. I Think it was? Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Space one, right? With a Chewbacca. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Star wars.

[Tim Baltz]

Starring Chewbacca.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Which is the one. Chewbacca at it.

[Tim Baltz]

It's Star Wars.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that all of them? Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Star Wars.

[Paul Scheer]

All of what all is it like? Because I know. I think it's Star Wars. I think it's Star.

[Tim Baltz]

Wait, are you talking about chewbacca?

[Paul Scheer]

Is Fred McMurray in it?

[Tim Baltz]

Is Fred McMurray in IT?

[Paul Scheer]

In Star Wars?

[Tim Baltz]

From my three sons, I get Star.

[Paul Scheer]

Wars in the apartment. Conf. Chewbacca is like working and he has a good apartment or something. I don't know.

[Tim Baltz]

He seems fun, but you're confusing the two.

[Paul Scheer]

I know that Chewbacca loves Sherlock Lane. Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Cause in Star wars. In Star Wars, Chewbacca doesn't have an apartment, right? Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

I think actually Star wars is the movie where Chewbacca is doing his job.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Tim Baltz]

And the apartment is when Chewbacca is at home.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, that's it.

[Tim Baltz]

It's a home based Chewbacca movie and a work based Chewbacca movie.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love one of the new Star wars spin offs to be a remake of the Apartment. Rogue One, the Han Solo spin off the Apartment.

[Tim Baltz]

I would like one of the movies to just be a workplace comedy starring Chewbacca.

[Paul Scheer]

No subtitles.

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[Paul Scheer]

To your point about Nick Cassavetes too. Like that scene where he cuts his own hand.

[Randy Quaid]

Oh my God.

[Tim Baltz]

We're blood lovers.

[Paul Scheer]

Blood lovers.

[Tim Baltz]

That is unhealthy and yet sounds like.

[Eliza Skinner]

It sounds like a movie that you guys would discuss on this.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, 100%.

[Eliza Skinner]

This week we're watching Blood Lovers.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, by the way, I would 100% watch a movie called Blood Lovers, but he wipes his blood on her mouth.

[Paul Scheer]

But he also does. He does blood. Blood brothers in a weird way, because he cuts his hand and then he licks it and then gives it to her.

[Tim Baltz]

And everybody knows you're supposed to do it in the exact opposite order. Where are you going with this?

[Eliza Skinner]

Because he. He cut her hand too, right?

[Paul Scheer]

The idea of, like, blood brothers is like, that. You're supposed to, like, you cut your finger. I cut my finger. And then we mix it together. Right. But, like, he just cuts himself and then he. He drinks his own blood.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

And then he wipes it out like. Like he's not getting any blood out of this deal.

[Randy Quaid]

And she pulls back, which just means a smudge on her face. So it's not. There's nothing satisfying. There's no. He doesn't stick his thumb in her mouth or anything weird like that.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, a thumb in the mouth in this movie would have fit perfectly. That is a good move for this movie.

[Randy Quaid]

The top of this very scene, he ruins her crying scene, her big crying moment, because it takes him 10 full seconds to take off that fucking glove.

[Paul Scheer]

You're right.

[Randy Quaid]

It takes. I timed it. It takes 10 seconds. And he's like. He goes finger by finger twice around, and then finally has to yank it off. 10 seconds. And she's trying to cry and have an emotional moment, and the camera has to stay on him because he's got his hand right next to his face.

[Paul Scheer]

I noticed. You know what? It's funny that you mention that, because I only paid attention to the gloves. I didn't even know she had a crying scene. I was like, does he take off the gloves when he gets in the car? I thought that's what you.

[Tim Baltz]

It's great glove work.

[Paul Scheer]

Driving like.

[Randy Quaid]

It's her best moment in the movie.

[Eliza Skinner]

She.

[Randy Quaid]

She turns to the camera. It's in profile. Then she turns the camera, and she's got actual emotion and actual tears. And you're like, oh, maybe the movie's going to turn. Then it cuts to him and. All right, here we go. We're back. Also, I think each flashback they show is slightly different. I think they use different takes because in the last one, it's a rock shamon.

[Paul Scheer]

But they didn't tell the audience. Unreliable narrator.

[Randy Quaid]

And the last narrator's like, yeah, they put A blanket over her head right away.

[Tim Baltz]

What was really weird is that whenever we see the flashbacks of the murder or any of these things, it's because Charlie Sheen is looking into the eyes of either Nick Cassavetes or Sherilyn Fenn, and he sees this flashback of himself being murdered. Why he was there. He doesn't need to see a flashback because he was there when it happened. Right, right.

[Paul Scheer]

And he seemingly is only coming back to kill. Kill them.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, it's not like, oh, I'm reincarnated. Oh, wait, he's not piecing anything.

[Tim Baltz]

No, he's. There's no mystery for him.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. His plan is to simply kill them all in the most obtuse way. It. Just go run them over. Like, Or. Or when you go in with your space shotgun, shoot them. Don't blow up their shop. And he's like. He's shooting every. Everything but them. And then Nick Cassavetes, like, he says, like, hey, man, put down that kidney buster.

[Eliza Skinner]

That was.

[Paul Scheer]

I never heard of the term for a gun.

[Eliza Skinner]

I. I feel like I'm gonna hate myself for. For saying this right now, but I do think that was the weirdest scene in the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Just where he's, like, shooting everything and Nick Cassavetes sitting there the whole time like, oh, man. Nick Cassavetti, what are you doing?

[Tim Baltz]

Is non plus.

[Eliza Skinner]

Stone does not care.

[Tim Baltz]

All of the wraith's activities.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, he's just like. He's like, this guy just like.

[Tim Baltz]

Well, I'm not impressed. I'm hanging out in my puka shell necklace, my leather jacket, and I'm not impressed, bro.

[Eliza Skinner]

Skanks jumping into the ceiling like a cat.

[Tim Baltz]

I mean, like, this is some crate. You would be. You'd be impressed by this.

[Paul Scheer]

A man in leg braces, a space gun, who. The doors open, and he poses for a very long time before he does anything.

[Eliza Skinner]

Take it in.

[Paul Scheer]

And he's in like, you know, everyone's checking him out. I forgot about that puka shot.

[Eliza Skinner]

Oh, yes, I forgot. Is that. Is that an Italian horn?

[Paul Scheer]

And this gun looks pretty futuristic.

[Eliza Skinner]

Poor gutter boy.

[Tim Baltz]

And he spends a lot of time shooting the gun, and nobody ever gets shot.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that was a weird.

[Tim Baltz]

I rewound that because that was weird.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna just play it a little bit here, buddy. I'd put that kidney buster down if I was you. This place is filled with ether and acetylene. Dig? They all see Charlie Sheen's face.

[Tim Baltz]

We have a flashback.

[Paul Scheer]

Bloody buddy body going into Trump, and the car is being pushed off the Road slowly. It's a slow flashback. Oh, and then they shoot a shotgun. They blow up the car. No. Hey, I don't know what your problem is, guy, but.

[Tim Baltz]

Who'S the guy in the green visor? The accounts, a character I do not remember. Cuz it's not Augie, is it?

[Paul Scheer]

No, Augie dies early.

[Tim Baltz]

Augie's already dead. Here. Who is that guy?

[Paul Scheer]

It's not skank. It's like minty.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, it must be minty.

[Randy Quaid]

But mint Minty's usually in the varsity jacket, right? He's got the state varsity jacket.

[Tim Baltz]

That's varsity jacket, guy.

[Paul Scheer]

Minty.

[Randy Quaid]

But then he doesn't have it on here. And that green visor threw me off too.

[Tim Baltz]

That really confused me.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't understand why Charlie Sheen is in all this gear and get up to, like, if he could just be Charlie Sheen.

[Tim Baltz]

Is this because they couldn't have Charlie Sheen?

[Eliza Skinner]

Well, I mean, you saw. We saw at the end. Yeah, that's definitely why. But. But story wise, we saw at the end how much effort it takes for him to take it off.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

He was like, I won't do that again. I won't be doing that again.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you seemingly are doing it all the time because you're appearing in two different locations throughout the entire movie.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Randy Quaid]

What blew my mind the most about this, especially later in the movie when he finally drives his supercar, his super Dodge, into the warehouse and blows the whole thing up. I'm like, you didn't have to kill him one by one. You could have just killed them all to begin with.

[Tim Baltz]

And he's already been to the barn and just shot it up right there. So like, he comes back later and just drives into it, which causes the barn to explode to a level that is basically equivalent of the mother of all bombs. And that explosion, I was like, whoa, that is significant.

[Eliza Skinner]

Pacing it out would make sense if he was. Was terrifying them. Like, the name kind of indicates being a wraith. If he was just. They were getting more and more terrified each time. But they weren't. Except Clint Howard. That was the movie Clint Howard was in.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, but also, wouldn't you argue, like, if. Wouldn't it be cool if, like, the first person he killed was a simple one, like a race one, and the car drove into the car and it blew up, you know, and then the second one, it was shotgun murder. Like, they just heightened and.

[Eliza Skinner]

So like Final Destination.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Like, I'm like, yeah, they had some sort of build, but no it's just all car related.

[Tim Baltz]

Or the other thing would be if. If the Charlie Sheen in the flashbacks, the Jamie character had been murdered via car.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Tim Baltz]

But he's not. It's not like he gets killed in a drag race. It's. He gets killed, like, in his briefs in a cabin.

[Eliza Skinner]

We still don't know if they're briefs or whatever.

[Tim Baltz]

Whatever. In, like, the bottom of a lady's bathing suit. I'm honestly not sure what he's wearing. But he gets killed unceremoniously, like, in a cabin.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

And then disposed of in a cabin.

[Tim Baltz]

But all of the revenge murders take place via car, so he should be.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, killing them all while they're fucking. I mean, like. I mean, that would be.

[Tim Baltz]

Ooh, Nick Cassavetes weird sex scene with that blonde waitress was. Is very not cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Even Randy Quaid.

[Randy Quaid]

Randy Quaid gives that actress a look like, I'm so sorry, honey.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, we haven't even mentioned Randy Quaid yet. Who gives a stellar performance in this movie.

[Tim Baltz]

Maximum Quaid.

[Eliza Skinner]

Oh, yeah. Why? Why put up a. What was it? Why put up a barrier? Not even there when. When they're like, should we block off the roads at the end? And he's like, can't block something that's not there.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I will just play. This is when Randy Quaid first discovers again, another red herring in this movie, the first person who's murdered reappears unscathed.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah, they all do. All the people who are murdered are not burned by the accident, are not harmed by the accident. They are. Their eyes are gone.

[Eliza Skinner]

Just the first one. The first one had their eyes. They say sucked, but looks like burned out. And then they describe the body as. They're like, oh, looks like he just got out of a hot tub or something.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Which is not what he looks like.

[Tim Baltz]

Like, does the wraith need to feed on their essence or something?

[Eliza Skinner]

That would have been so much better.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait a second. Oh, go ahead.

[Randy Quaid]

I have a theory that all these things were explained in scenes that were cut where Billy is just hot loading exposition.

[Eliza Skinner]

He's just, like, making burgers. Like, well, you know, a wraith needs eyeballs.

[Paul Scheer]

And then you all know when you get killed and the car blows up, you come back as an evil car and you could go kill everybody. But the part of that price is that you gotta make sure that everyone gets killed one by one. The evil guy lower is.

[Eliza Skinner]

Oh, yeah, you can change your face, but not your back scars.

[Paul Scheer]

Uh, I think I figured it out. I think I figured it out to A point that doesn't make sense, but I'm still going to explain it. I think each person he kills, he's taking a part of their essence. First person, he's taking their eyes. The second person, he's taking one of their legs. That's why the, the pieces of the, the, the things disappear because he's like getting part of them. But that doesn't make any sense because you see him early and he's got his whole body, you know.

[Randy Quaid]

Paul, Paul. I think that's a stretch. I don't think they thought it out.

[Eliza Skinner]

I wonder if I think they thought it out. My favorite, Randy.

[Paul Scheer]

Cool. His eyes were missing.

[Randy Quaid]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Cool. All right, we'll figure it out later. I gotta write the masseuse the new movie I'm writing for Playboy.

[Eliza Skinner]

My favorite Randy Quaid moment was the scene where he's in his sheriff. Sheriff's office, whatever. Making paper dolls as he talks to everybody. And I feel like again, such a strong choice for no reason. Unless at one point we revealed that the. Like, in an original cut, we revealed that the paper dolls were all the people with like, eyes burned out, leg off, like, whatever. But we didn't do that.

[Tim Baltz]

No, it was just all headless.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yo. Okay. Was that what it was?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he cut the heads.

[Tim Baltz]

He cut the head off.

[Randy Quaid]

Well, we're probably missing a scene where Billy teaches Randy Quaid how to cut off the eyes from little things like that. And then they got in the edit and they were like, this movie's all about Billy. We gotta drop all these scenes.

[Tim Baltz]

Nobody cares about Billy.

[Paul Scheer]

A little taste of Randy Quaid'cause he's kids.

[Tim Baltz]

How. Oh, that's ugly.

[Randy Quaid]

God.

[Paul Scheer]

Kid ought to be dog meat.

[Randy Quaid]

Wait a minute.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, Loomis. This kid smashed down a canyon through fire and busting glass.

[Randy Quaid]

Must have been a thousand degrees in that car.

[Tim Baltz]

Uh huh.

[Paul Scheer]

At least where's his eyes? Sent cats climbing up my spine when I saw him hauling this carps out of that canyon. Clean as if he'd come out of a hot tub. A hot tub. It's not, it's not like a hot tub. It's like he's saying like he took a. Like a bath. Like the way I. The way I'm hearing him say is like a hot tub. Not like a hot tub. Like, you know, so he's like, yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Either way, he does not look like that. No, he looks like he lives in a refrigerator and rats eat his eyes.

[Tim Baltz]

Like that makes me think that makes. Makes me think that that deputy is up to no good. Spend a lot of time in hot tubs.

[Paul Scheer]

I always love a movie like this where they have to create, like, cool guy language. Like, they don't. Like, they're like, yeah, we're gonna do this. This is how bad guys talk. The other. The other guy. I just realized in watching this, it's like a Will Forte SNL character. The other guy. Like, man, like, there's an energy to it. I just, like, whether, like, said Queef City. It's Queef City. I don't understand why it would be Queef City down by the lake. I don't know. What, Like, I don't know.

[Tim Baltz]

Well, how did they.

[Eliza Skinner]

If you're doing a lot of.

[Tim Baltz]

How did they get so much air up?

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah. If you're sitting up. No.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe that's why all their underwear is being sucked through their assholes.

[Eliza Skinner]

This movie also, like, they did. They have different rules back then about paying for songs to be in movies. Because this had, like, legit songs in it.

[Paul Scheer]

It does have, like, one of the.

[Tim Baltz]

Motley Crue and Ozzy and this. Billie island was awesome.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. It's insane. It has a ton of. Their soundtrack is amazing. But I feel like this is, like, a time when they're like, just get a killer soundtrack. Get Mike Marvin and get me.

[Tim Baltz]

Get me Re Smoot. Kathy. Get me Reid Smoot on the line.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie. I mean. And then. But again, I don't understand any of it.

[Tim Baltz]

I didn't understand any of it. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, can I just pitch one version?

[Tim Baltz]

Nobody had parents. Yes. Not a single character had a parent, even though they all. All appeared to be children.

[Eliza Skinner]

Or goals at all.

[Paul Scheer]

Or goals.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Like, nobody was.

[Tim Baltz]

Nobody was going to college.

[Eliza Skinner]

Nope.

[Tim Baltz]

Nobody.

[Eliza Skinner]

Sherilyn Finn was like, what? Disappear on a bike? Sounds good.

[Tim Baltz]

Sounds good. With. With an angel or a ring or a devil.

[Paul Scheer]

Where could have been?

[Tim Baltz]

Where are they going? Where are they going at the end? Is he taking her to the afterlife?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. And he leaves his brother behind.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

To get framed for murder.

[Paul Scheer]

We should go and talk to the audience about. Because they may be able to help us out a little bit here. I do just want to talk about one other thing before we go out there. That when they do have that sex scene in the hot springs, there's chestbone kissing. It's just. It's not neck. It's below neck. Above nipple. Chest bone.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, it's a clavicle smooch.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, a clavicle smooch. And they are reacting like it's the most erotic thing oh, kiss my clavicle.

[Randy Quaid]

Oh, yeah, I broke this one down. Cause I got really obsessed with how they were treating the flashbacks to the brutal murder.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

And. All right, so she says, you remind me of Jamie. I like you. Flashback to brutal murder.

[Tim Baltz]

A brutal murder that they were present for.

[Randy Quaid]

Yes.

[Tim Baltz]

So they're flashing back to a moment they were both in.

[Randy Quaid]

Cut back to them in the creek. Charlie Sheen says, I love you. Then they kiss each other's clavicles. She says, you remind me of Jamie. I like you. Flashback to brutal murder. Flashback, I love you.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I.

[Randy Quaid]

And she just smiles after he says, I love you.

[Eliza Skinner]

Like, I mean, can you imagine?

[Paul Scheer]

She obviously falls in and out of love very quickly.

[Eliza Skinner]

She's a psychopath. She had someone murdered on top of her and was like, can I get.

[Paul Scheer]

On the back of your bike and show you how to get down to the quarry?

[Eliza Skinner]

Sure.

[Randy Quaid]

I compartmentalize easily.

[Paul Scheer]

He's just taking her to a therapist's office in the sky. You need to talk.

[Tim Baltz]

You need to. To process what you've been through.

[Paul Scheer]

Because, like. Like, to me, the movie, I think the better version of this movie.

[Tim Baltz]

I mean, I guess there's a possibility that she is also murdered in that cabin and that the whole movie is a Jacob's Ladder scenario. Could be a Jacob's Ladder scenario.

[Paul Scheer]

I buy it. I mean, or it could be a.

[Tim Baltz]

Jacob's Letter scenario for Jamie, and he's imagining himself as a Charlie Sheen character.

[Paul Scheer]

He's in purgatory. I feel like he's let go, and he's like, I'm dead now. But she's still hanging out in purgatory, and he's got to rescue her from Purgatory.

[Tim Baltz]

And that makes sense, because Purgatory is a world in which there are no parents. And you're just, like, at the lake, at the creek or the quarry or whatever. And at the burger shot at the.

[Eliza Skinner]

Burger stand, and things are decided by car race.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

And there's a scene that's basically lost.

[Tim Baltz]

And there's spoiler alert for Lost monster. They're in Purgatory. The TV show Lost. They're in Purgatory. Spoiler alert.

[Paul Scheer]

They aren't. Jason, I hate to outlast you here. They're not in Purgatory until the end of the show.

[Tim Baltz]

Sure. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

The whole time they were on the island.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

So. But wait, wouldn't the strong. Wouldn't the stronger. Wouldn't the stronger movie be the wraith comes to town, he kills everybody. You don't know who it is. And then in the last scene, he pulls up the black car, pulls up to Sherilyn Fenn's house. He gets out of that costume. She's like, what? You're that guy that I used to date? He's like, yeah, I'm back. Fucking killed everyone who killed me. Now get on my bike and let's go. Like, the whole charade of falling back.

[Eliza Skinner]

In love, it should all be flashbacks. We don't need modern day back to life. Jake, Jamie, we could just have the car driving around. And anytime we want to see, like, teen romance, it's some flashback to, like, remember we used to go get ice cream together or something like that.

[Paul Scheer]

Because the movie builds to the point where, like, he shows up in that black outfit and he's like, I'm back to Charlie Sheen. And that should be like, I don't know. I don't know, more of a moment or something.

[Tim Baltz]

Well, by then we. It's like there is no. Like, there is no mystery. You're like. You're meant to understand. Like, oh, he is just both of these characters. Yeah, he is both the Charlie Sheen on the bike who's like.

[Paul Scheer]

He's three characters. Oh.

[Tim Baltz]

Cause he's Jamie as well. Yeah, that's true.

[Paul Scheer]

Charlie Sheen is three characters in this movie.

[Randy Quaid]

Wow.

[Tim Baltz]

That's unsettling. And I loved it.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's go out here to the odd. Let's see what they have to say. All right, let's go to you, sir. Come on over here. Let's have your name. And then I want to see if you have a better title than the Wraith for this movie. If you don't, don't worry about it. But then I'll put you on the spot.

[Randy Quaid]

My name is Trevor. What the fuck?

[Paul Scheer]

I guess. All right, sure, I'll take it. I'll take it.

[Randy Quaid]

Well, you mentioned one of the other movies that Mike Marvin directed. He actually had, like, four, like, softcore movies that he did, and he's credited as Jake Casey, Charlie Sheen's character. Like, that's the name he used.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Randy Quaid]

And so now I'm just wondering, is this like, some sort of, like. I don't know what he's trying to say with that. It's like some Dread Pirate Roberts thing.

[Tim Baltz]

Where it's like, Jake is like.

[Randy Quaid]

It's a name you could just take for a cause.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he has written two sequels, I think, to this movie that are unmade.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. They're unproduced in every way so far. I love that.

[Tim Baltz]

He's like, my name's Mike Marvin. But I'd like to be known professionally as Jake Casey.

[Paul Scheer]

Interesting. So he's become in character. That's a good one. All right, great. Thanks so much. All right, instead of coming with another title, let's do something different. Come up with your name if you were in a gang, you know. So we had. Obviously we had a. We have Rughead. Right. Skank.

[Eliza Skinner]

Gutter boy.

[Paul Scheer]

Gutter boy. So come on up here, Minty. Yeah, Minty. So here we go.

[Randy Quaid]

My name is Zach.

[Paul Scheer]

Curly hair. Good. Just stop. A. Curly.

[Tim Baltz]

They kept mentioning how dangerous the bad guy was.

[Paul Scheer]

And you shouldn't talk to the girl.

[Randy Quaid]

And you shouldn't talk to the girl.

[Paul Scheer]

And then Charlie Sheen keeps talking to him.

[Tim Baltz]

Never faces any repercussions.

[Randy Quaid]

And then the guy sees them making.

[Paul Scheer]

Out in front of her house, and.

[Randy Quaid]

He'S just gently weeping.

[Tim Baltz]

It's just his, like, tears in his eyes and he's nothing.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he should have gotten out of the car there and done something. Maybe he's still being stung from when. That moment when she said, I'll never make love to you. Like another shoehorned. An exposition line. Like, we gotta let the audience know these two have not done it.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

This is just a kidnapping. That's a good point. Great. Yes. Yes, sir. You're kidnapped, dating. And your gang name.

[Randy Quaid]

Evold.

[Paul Scheer]

Gang name. Goozer. Ooh, that's good. I like that. All right, two things. Did you do this because of Easter? Because it's kind of like he's coming back from to that. I'll say. Yes. It was very thoughtful.

[Tim Baltz]

You see the Wraith as a Christ allegory. Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, there were three stars in the beginning.

[Tim Baltz]

This is Father, Son, Holy car, Holy Wraith.

[Paul Scheer]

The second thing was, Randy Quaid didn't anybody. He was a police lieutenant. But sometimes he'd wear a sports jacket and a shirt. And the same day, back at the police station, he'd be, like, in a deputy's outfit with a shoulder hook. My girlfriend doesn't think that's weird. I think it's weird. I think I hear you're saying because he dresses like a detective and then he dresses like.

[Tim Baltz]

You should dump your girlfriend, man. You guys gotta break up over this.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no, no. That is. I mean, again, I feel like they were like, oh, yeah, when you go to work, the police station, you gotta wear your cop clothes. But in. In real life, you can wear your regular clothes, Right? Maybe that or vice versa.

[Randy Quaid]

Paul, I honestly think that they just let everyone pick their own wardrobe for this movie.

[Eliza Skinner]

Again, strong choices.

[Tim Baltz]

Cassavetes Came in with, like, 11 puka shell necklaces, and it was like, I'm wearing one of these.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, ma'am, your name, your gang name, and your question. My name is Lisan. My gang name would be the Rush. And my question. I like it. Thank you.

[Eliza Skinner]

In the very end of the movie, he says, pack lightly. We're not gonna go far.

[Paul Scheer]

Where are they going?

[Eliza Skinner]

I think, is he gonna kill her so they can go to heaven or hell together?

[Tim Baltz]

I think he has to kill. There's no doubt. It ends in her murder so that they can share the afterlife together. I believe. Yes. I thought that as well.

[Randy Quaid]

I think they're just packing that weird boy underwear that he had and her thong that she puts on sideways.

[Paul Scheer]

Pack lightly. I forgot that because she wouldn't really need to pack at all. You could argue.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, but she'd get creeped out if he was like, don't pack anything. Can I. My bike.

[Tim Baltz]

The only thing I want to see you in is wings and a halo.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. All right, sir, your name, your gang name, and your question. I hold the mic.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, boy. Oh, he's really getting grabby.

[Paul Scheer]

Got to go with the. The best gang name is from d. Death Wish 3. Giggler. That's we got to go with. So I rented the. Out of this movie in 1990 from Fox Video Monthly. It was never on the shelf because of me. I love the fuck out of him. And.

[Randy Quaid]

But.

[Paul Scheer]

So if he looks different, why does he wear a mask? If he's invincible, why does he have armor? And if he's dead, why does he have that breathing tube? All great questions. Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Well, I'll put it back on you. As someone who watched this movie constantly.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. What have you come up with?

[Tim Baltz]

We've only watched it once. Dum dum. You tell. I watch this movie so much, nobody else could watch it. I also fundamentally don't understand how it works. I've learned nothing. I have the most experience and the least information. I'm a certified moron. That's what you sound like.

[Paul Scheer]

Anyone? Last question. I really want to feel like someone's got something. Really? All right, let's see what you got. Come to me.

[Tim Baltz]

All right.

[Paul Scheer]

Name? Gang name. Question.

[Randy Quaid]

Channing. My gang name would be Channing Tatum.

[Tim Baltz]

Everybody. Whoop, whoop.

[Paul Scheer]

Two things.

[Randy Quaid]

One, we. You talked earlier about Charlie Sheen's limited time on screen. We actually timed it, and it's a very generous 12 minutes and 30 seconds.

[Tim Baltz]

We?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Who's the we in we?

[Paul Scheer]

Actually. Gang.

[Tim Baltz]

What?

[Randy Quaid]

Me and my gang.

[Tim Baltz]

You have a Gang.

[Randy Quaid]

And my question is, why does he have those scars? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but scarring is something left for the living.

[Tim Baltz]

I agree. I thought that was strange.

[Paul Scheer]

But why. But even to me, why would he have those scars if it's in a different body?

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah, yeah, he seems to have a different body.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, it's a totally different body.

[Tim Baltz]

I just like this dude and his friends being, like, go.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, I'm glad that they timed it, because no one else would. And I'm at, like, 12 minutes and 30 seconds. Like, this movie is not short for him to only be in 12 minutes.

[Tim Baltz]

It's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

You're not counting Wraith in there, are you? No, no, just Charlie. Just Charlie.

[Eliza Skinner]

But, I mean, that was him in that suit. So.

[Paul Scheer]

Here is the scene that we've talked about a few times, but I think it's worth hearing it in full. The Wraith, AKA Charlie Sheen, appears in front of Sherilyn Finn's house. And this happens. He comes out of his space car in his Wraith costume.

[Eliza Skinner]

That's how she should have been reacting to everything. Constantly.

[Paul Scheer]

Trojan, kind of, like, has a crick in his neck. I can't do that again, Jake. You know who I am. Jamie.

[Tim Baltz]

What? How?

[Paul Scheer]

It's as close as I can come to who I once was. It's close enough. Just think of this as a second chance. We were meant to be together. Carrie. All right, so that's. That. She's a fucking genius that she figured that out.

[Randy Quaid]

But also, she fucked him without knowing that it was him at the beginning. So it's like, oh, Jamie, my ex.

[Paul Scheer]

Ooh.

[Randy Quaid]

Kind of had sex with the guy that I thought was someone else. Glad it's you, though.

[Paul Scheer]

And then this is how his brother. This is just, again, the brother scene. These scenes are, I think so worth it. Here we go. All right.

[Randy Quaid]

Here.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. It's time for me to hit the road. My business here is finished. Before I do, I want you to have something. She's yours now. Who's mine?

[Tim Baltz]

It's outside.

[Paul Scheer]

Turbo interceptor, by the way. I want to pause this for a second. He gave him a key. He goes, who's mine?

[Tim Baltz]

She's. She's your.

[Eliza Skinner]

The woman that you start with this key.

[Tim Baltz]

She. She's yours.

[Paul Scheer]

Who?

[Tim Baltz]

Wait, it's a. It's definitely for a car.

[Paul Scheer]

The fact that he gets that. He's confused about that makes me not believe that he gets the Jake. Jamie thing at all.

[Eliza Skinner]

I think he's just yelling random names. But also Charlie Sheen's Performance, like, he is so checked out in this scene. It's like he just does not care about a single word he's saying. Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

You know, and he feels nothing. There appears to be no connection.

[Eliza Skinner]

He's just, like, counting down. He's like, I got a flight to catch to Vietnam.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

Missing all my 12 minutes in a day. Here we go. All right, so it continues. Only one in existence does very special things. Take care of it, will you?

[Tim Baltz]

What? Who are you, bro?

[Paul Scheer]

You said it, Billy. I gotta go. Hey, man, wait a minute.

[Tim Baltz]

Where you going? Where you going? Hey, Billy. Instructions are in the glove compartment. The instructions for a car.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yes. Come back for a murder car.

[Tim Baltz]

Come back, bro. Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

Whoa. Far out. Here we go. The moment that we're all waiting for.

[Eliza Skinner]

Hey, Jake.

[Tim Baltz]

Who are you?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh. Oh, Jake.

[Tim Baltz]

Jake. I will never know.

[Randy Quaid]

I gotta point out earlier in that scene, before he says the bro thing and he's kinda. And Billy kind of figures it out. He's ready to leave.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

He's walking out the door. And then Billy has to say something. And then Charlie Sheen stops and comes back. And then the broken. He's ready to walk away from this guy without ever. Also, he's alive again. Going to fuck his girlfriend. They're gonna see each other, right?

[Eliza Skinner]

No, he's gonna murder his girlfriend and take her to heaven. Which means at this point, he's got nothing to lose. You're a wraith. Just be like, this is gonna blow your mind, dude, I'm your brother. Bye. And then you get on your bike.

[Randy Quaid]

I agree.

[Eliza Skinner]

Thank you. Why don't we write these?

[Paul Scheer]

All right, so let's hear these lines.

[Randy Quaid]

Oh, man. My Favorite Randy Quaid 1. When he goes to visit Skank and Gutter Boy. First off, the guy, he asks about the workers. Skank's uncle. And his uncle says, my nephew Skank and his pal, Gutter Boy.

[Tim Baltz]

I wrote that as well.

[Randy Quaid]

Pretty great line.

[Tim Baltz]

Because I love. I love that the uncle uncle calls him Skank, not. What's his name? Maurice. What's his name?

[Randy Quaid]

Maurice.

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Oh, I thought Skank was his given name.

[Randy Quaid]

And then Randy Quaid comes up to him. He starts a little bit of chit chatter. And then he says, you listen to me, Skank. I can't call you Skank, right?

[Eliza Skinner]

Please. Skank is my father.

[Randy Quaid]

I mean. Oh, God. Then Skank has a great line later when he's trying to shoot when they're in the cemetery. Oh, we didn't talk about this.

[Tim Baltz]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

The gravestone grave.

[Randy Quaid]

He desecrates six at least a half dozen graves in this cemetery to get.

[Eliza Skinner]

To the good one, which got his.

[Randy Quaid]

Name on it, which he doesn't realize until after. He's probably been staring at it for, like, two minutes.

[Paul Scheer]

And isn't that when he goes back to the chop shop? And then he is unafraid of being killed after he's seen his own death.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yes, that's how it works.

[Randy Quaid]

Cause he's being directed by someone else in this movie. But then Skank pulls out that shotgun and he tries to shoot, you know, the Wraith. And he says, eat lead, crud, sucker. Which is the shortest possible way to tell someone that they can suck on your crud, crudsucker.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, does he say, eat lead. Okay, okay, sorry.

[Tim Baltz]

And then the gun doesn't work. And he's like, he's not human. He's making the gun do something. And it's. It really made me insane that Packard doesn't take the Wraith seriously ever.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Tim Baltz]

Like, the Wraith is clearly a supernatural.

[Paul Scheer]

Being killing everyone in his game.

[Tim Baltz]

And Packardy's never impressed.

[Eliza Skinner]

You think it drove you crazy? Clint Howard was nuts about it.

[Tim Baltz]

Yep, that's true.

[Paul Scheer]

When Clint Howard says it's a race, the two guys, Skank and Gutterball, seem like they understand. Like, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. But I feel like I'm first of all surprised that Clint Howard knows what a race is. And I feel like these guys, like, no one seems like.

[Tim Baltz]

And he.

[Paul Scheer]

There's nothing. This Wraith is showing himself as a Wraith at all points. Like, oh, yeah. That's why he disappears. That's why all of our friends have died. That's why the eyes have disappeared. Like, no one takes anything.

[Tim Baltz]

People see him turn into balls of light. Like, the police are chasing him. And he's like. And they're all just kind of like.

[Eliza Skinner]

Maybe that's what happens.

[Paul Scheer]

Happens there a lot about what is a movie where everyone is on, like, acid. Like, and they all don't say anything because they're afraid that they're not really seeing what's actually happening.

[Tim Baltz]

It's all.

[Eliza Skinner]

They're just all side eyeing each other. Like, huh? Did you. Was that just.

[Paul Scheer]

That's why. That's why Cassavetes is crying in the car. Everyone's on their own fucking weird trip the entire movie.

[Randy Quaid]

He's coming down from me. He's just got a huge glass of orange juice. He's got a great line. And this also goes back to him being in a completely different movie when Randy Quaid busts up his weird foreplay with that blonde girl at his sex lair on his way behind the beaded curtain.

[Tim Baltz]

Did you notice that in the sex layer, before you get into the sex room, there's a painting of two skeletons having sex?

[Eliza Skinner]

Were you like, oh, my God, that's my house?

[Tim Baltz]

Yeah, I was like, cool, that's cool. I'm gonna rip that off right as.

[Randy Quaid]

He'S about to leave. So Quaid tells him he's gonna take him down to the police station. With no irony and kind of putting on a lisp, Cassavetes says, see you in the squad car. That I went back and watched that, like five times. I couldn't believe it.

[Tim Baltz]

That's.

[Randy Quaid]

That was the craziest choice he made.

[Tim Baltz]

And he could be full of crazy choices.

[Paul Scheer]

And what is even alluding to? Like, is that, like. Is that like. I mean, obviously, like, he's like, making some sort of, like, gay joke, but, like, is that in the car? Like in the.

[Randy Quaid]

I don't know. I mean, Quaid. Quaid is gonna take him down to police station. So he's basically saying, like, yes, I'm cooperating, and I assume that you're driving, so I'll see you in the squad car. But he says it like that. See you in the squad car.

[Tim Baltz]

And then Randy Quaid says to the girl, are you okay?

[Eliza Skinner]

And she's like, for sure. No, look where I am. Of course not.

[Tim Baltz]

I'm living my best life.

[Eliza Skinner]

She was my. She was my big hope for this, maybe passing the Bechdel test. And just didn't.

[Randy Quaid]

No, but he threw her her shirt.

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, but she didn't get to have a conversation with Cheryl and Fenn where they talked about something besides the Wraith. That was really. No. Nobody. Okay, whatever.

[Tim Baltz]

No, it's true. Even though they worked together at the burger joint, they never talked about anything that wasn't the Wraith.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are other people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[Tim Baltz]

The movie was a piece of shit. This person recommends it. Tell me, what is the message? Maybe that art is subjective. I need a second opinion.

[Paul Scheer]

These are weird. I'm gonna get off the bat and just say these five star reviews from Amazon are pretty weird. Let's just start here. This is the one that. From Chris z. Written in 2000. Sorry, 2016. From the days when movies had story and meaning. Five stars. Wow. Then from Jeffrey Flint.

[Tim Baltz]

I'd be curious to hear what he thinks is the story and meaning of this movie.

[Eliza Skinner]

Like how did he connect with it?

[Paul Scheer]

This is from Jeffrey flint. Written in 2014. It makes you wonder what people in real life would do for Revenge of a Lost Love and Life. I want to be able to do that if I died. Five stars.

[Tim Baltz]

Nope. Yeah. Yikes.

[Paul Scheer]

This one. I can't quite figure out how it got in here, but you'll see why. Title of this review is called Works Great by Angela Sherwood. This is a great item to have to let you know if the dishes are clean or dirty. I think we all make the mistake of going inside the dishwasher sometimes when it's dirty and grabbing a dirty dish. Dish. So I love this magnet. It's very sturdy and it works great.

[Randy Quaid]

Meanwhile, that magnet has a review of the Wraith underneath it.

[Eliza Skinner]

This magnet doesn't make any sense at all.

[Randy Quaid]

Let me get it straight with this magnet. All right. So the magnet's just trying to get eyes out of people.

[Tim Baltz]

The magnet is both a car and a motorcycle. And also Charlie Sheen.

[Paul Scheer]

Charlie Sheen's barely on this magnet. This is from R USCO 2009. I had this movie on VHS since it first came out. And I had a couple of friends come over and we decided we wanted to watch the Wraith. I said, that sounds like a plan being we hadn't seen it in a long time. I put the tape in, cracked open my beer. Mgd. Of course we started to watch the movie. We got halfway through it and the VCR decided to start crinkling the tape to a point that it snapped, stretched out, and broke the tape. I was. I have always cleaned the tape path of my vcr and not just by sticking a tape cleaner and calling it done. No way. Took the COVID off. I cleaned the entire path and I stuck new bands on it as well. That's how it lasted me since the Wraith came out. That's why now I see when it was on dvd, I knew I had to have it. I didn't care how much it cost. I won. I give this movie 10,000 stars. If you're able to Amazon. They have everything here. I'll never shop anywhere else except right here. Amazon.com the Wraith buy this movie before it's gone. It's already out of print. Excellent movie. 5 stars.

[Tim Baltz]

But we know he'd prefer to give.

[Paul Scheer]

It 10,000, which is not a realistic rating.

[Randy Quaid]

That was written by Clint Howard.

[Eliza Skinner]

There's.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm gonna read this one. It's not as funny as that last one, but I think it will be interesting to hear. It's written by D.A. hanks. The Wraith is a modern remake of the Clint Eastwood classic High Plains Drifter. In the Wraith, Eastwood is replaced by Sheen and the horse buy a fantastically futuristic car, the Dodge PPG Industries pace car, AKA the Turbo Interceptor. Jamie Hankins is dating Kerry Johnson, the leader of the notorious road racing gang that claimed Cary for himself. However, and decides to eliminate the competition. Jamie is brutally murdered and his body set ablaze in a fiery car crash. Now, Jamie was no good guy in life, and upon his arrival in hell, he makes a pact with the devil to exchange the souls of every gang member responsible for his death in exchange for his own soul's release. Jamie returns to earth as Jake, the driver of the hottest car ever built. One by one, he eggs members of the gang into races where he emerges victorious and the loser ends up dead, his eyes missing. This is a sure sign that they have been sent back to hell. Each time a gang member is killed, a mysterious brace disappears. Once the last member is dead, the final brace is gone and Jamie is set free. This is one of my favorite movies, and I was. I was privileged to work with David Churl recently, who played Skank in the movie. A lot of these guys were nobodies when it came out, but they have gone on to much bigger and better things. An awesome movie with a killer's 80s soundtrack. Five stars. Now, that's interesting, because what he describes there makes sense.

[Eliza Skinner]

It's a much better movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, it's not the movie, though, right?

[Eliza Skinner]

Yeah, no, I mean, it might have been at one point. That might have been scary. But, yeah, he's. He's added quite a few scenes also. I love that. In this review, he name drops.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Eliza Skinner]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

David. Cheryl. Yeah.

[Randy Quaid]

Yeah, Skank. I worked with Skank.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way. Why. Why couldn't Charlie Sheen, like, just say, I made a deal with the devil? Like, that would have been great.

[Eliza Skinner]

That's like an extra 30 seconds. He's got to get to Vietnam.

[Paul Scheer]

We do. Take two. No. All right, moving on. Billy.

[Randy Quaid]

Billy, get in here. You know, my brother made a deal. My brother was not a great guy before he died. My hope is that right now he's making a deal with the devil to come back and get revenge on whoever killed him.

[Paul Scheer]

Burger.

[Tim Baltz]

What?

[Randy Quaid]

Mr. McGuire wants a soda. All right, hold on a second. Anyway, so he'll come back, but he'll have, let's say, four people killed him, right? He'll have four different braces on his body, right?

[Paul Scheer]

It's the devil keeping him in check. So he doesn't escape and run away. But his other body doesn't have any braces on it. That would have been great if his other body was confined to like a wheelchair or something like that. Like any could have gotten up and then like three because he seemed to roam with no problem.

[Randy Quaid]

Guys, I. I'm just thinking of Charlie Sheen in a wheelchair doing all the things now in the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Floating down a. A river in a.

[Randy Quaid]

And Cassavete's still being like, who's this prick?

[Paul Scheer]

He's a dork. Man. This town's full of dorks.

[Tim Baltz]

Quip city, man. Quip city.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, just one fun fact that you really can't tell from this movie. It was shot in January, so the water was absolutely freezing in every one of those scenes. So it just gives you.

[Tim Baltz]

Which is why he's like. It actually warms up if you get in here.

[Randy Quaid]

Sounds like improv.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Well, yes. And I mean I think we. I think we've uncovered as much as we can uncover with the. With the Wraith. Tim, want to tell us about what you got to plug your show, your brand new show on ciso? Very funny show.

[Randy Quaid]

Yeah, it's called Shrink. It took us five years to make it.

[Tim Baltz]

Woo woo.

[Randy Quaid]

It's been out about a month and it's on CISO along with bajillion dollar properties of which two seasons are on and the third season is coming out June 1st.

[Paul Scheer]

And you can.

[Randy Quaid]

Some Bajil heads up.

[Paul Scheer]

A lot of Bajill heads here. Most of our audience is 1/4 Bajill heads. So just tell us about Shrink. Just what it's about.

[Randy Quaid]

Sure. Shrink follows the story of David Tracy who graduates from medical school. He's half a million dollars in debt. He doesn't get into a university hospital. Doctors have to go through a matching program. So he decides to default because of his debt into clinical therapy. And when you do that, you have to register 2,000 hours of of supervised clinical therapy. But you can't charge anyone. So he sets out getting craigslist patients to come into his parents garage because he had to move back home because of the debt. And they are doing free sessions with them while he is getting supervised from a therapist downtown. So it's the story of him over the course of eight episodes, kind of struggling to get better at his plan B because he's deferring this half a million dollars in debt in his life.

[Paul Scheer]

Awesome. So shrink on ciso, tell us what you have coming up right now.

[Eliza Skinner]

I just finished working on a show called Drop the Mic. That won't be coming out until September, but that's.

[Paul Scheer]

We can get excited for. Drop microphone is based on that bit that you guys do on Cordon where you have these rap battles, right?

[Eliza Skinner]

Yes. Yeah, the rap battles on Cordon. And now so it's all celebrities doing rap battles. So it's hosted by Method Man. That's neat. I love it. Yeah. And I also have my own podcast called Angry Little Goats. And that's, that's, it's fun.

[Paul Scheer]

What's Angry Little Goats about?

[Eliza Skinner]

It's me and another comedian, Will Weldon, just discussing current events and having a lot of digressions and that kind of thing about that. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, Jason, I got nothing. Nothing like just, you know, anything you've read, anything you want to tell people about.

[Tim Baltz]

My friend John has a great new record out under the. The name Man Forever.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Tim Baltz]

If people want to check that out. It's an amazing kind of drums, percussion record that I've been listening to that I like a lot. I don't know. Oh, S Town, I thought was fantastic.

[Paul Scheer]

I really enjoyed S Town. That was great. I just finally read Ready Player One and I thought that was really great. So that's my plug for this week.

[Tim Baltz]

Not bad.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a really fun book. Did you read it?

[Tim Baltz]

No, no.

[Paul Scheer]

It's really good. Don't sleep on it. It's really Good.

[Tim Baltz]

Planet Earth 2. Loved it. Are we just talking about things we like?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you know, just got, you know, kind of big little lies. Well, you can follow us as always on Facebook and Twitter. A big thank you to Nate Kiley for doing our research and for Avril for putting together all these amazing video clips that she puts together. And especially I'm so happy that we have that Rebel Without a Clause mash up there. So, so good. Thank you guys so much for coming. Thank you to July up in the booth. Thank you everybody here at Largo. Good night. Bye. Bye. This has been an Earwolf production executive produced by Scott Aukerman, Chris Bannon and Colin Anderson. For more information and content, visit earwolf.com.

[Tim Baltz]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Tim Baltz]

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[Eliza Skinner]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Eliza Skinner]

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