S4 E13: Selfless

Summary

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How I Died – S4 E13: "Selfless"

Release Date: December 17, 2025
A Serial Fiction Podcast by Audiohm Media

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Episode Overview

In "Selfless," the penultimate episode of How I Died’s fourth season, tensions climax as Dr. Jonathan Spacer and his allies are imprisoned beneath the mysterious Springfield facility, threatened by both a looming supernatural storm and the facility’s ethically dubious experiments. With secrets unraveling and personal stakes at their highest, loyalties are tested and hard choices must be made—for survival, closure, and self-identity.

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Major Discussion Points and Developments

1. Captivity and Betrayal (01:09 – 05:30)

• Jonathan Spacer, Dr. Lewis, Janie, and Mendez are held captive by Squires, under mysterious orders from above.
• Accusations and bitterness swirl. Dr. Lewis is blamed for Alex’s death; Squires reveals his motives are financial and professional ("What I was paid for." – Squires, 01:19).
• The group realizes Janie and Squires have little faith in their survival, given the possibility of exposure to another storm or dangerous augmentations.
• The nature of scientific ethics is debated:
  • John: “Fuck your science. You’re more of a monster than the things you kept down here.” (05:25)

2. Revelations, Regrets, and Survivor’s Guilt (05:31 – 10:00)

• Dr. Lewis describes her efforts to expose Springfield and her sense of failure.
• Mendez reveals contact with Roger Benoff, a former pathologist who faked his death to escape Springfield.
• Tensions escalate as Dr. Lewis’s moral culpability is discussed (“He killed two people and helped a serial killer hide her tracks.” – Mendez, 07:22).
• The nature of Spacer’s supernatural ability is laid bare, with Mendez expressing incredulity:
  • Mendez: “Spacer here thinks he can talk to ghosts.” (08:06)

3. Medical Horror and Power Plays (10:00 – 11:13)

• Dan arrives with a sanctioned, chilling “last request”—a brain biopsy on John, performed without his consent.
• The procedure is disturbing and graphic, heightening the episode’s tension:
  • Dan: “I need him awake for this. ... Because, well, this is gonna hurt a lot. And I don’t want to go too far.” (10:23)
• The aftermath leaves John physically weak but alive as the others look for escape options.

4. Escape Attempts and Fragile Alliances (13:37 – 17:38)

• The team tries to outwit Squires and saw through the bars using a scalpel. Small victories lead to breakouts, but trust and motivation are frayed.
• Mendez escapes, but tough decisions must be made about who gets left behind.
  • Janie: “You can't keep him here to die.”
  • Mendez: “John stays.” (17:08)

5. Confrontations, Closure, and Existential Questions (17:39 – 22:59)

• Intimate, revealing dialogue between Dr. Lewis and Mendez explores grief, guilt, and the afterlife.
• Dr. Lewis shares touching, paranormal closure from Crowley and Alex (“When Crowley died, she came into the morgue. She told me Amelia was Joy.” – Dr. Lewis, 18:03).
• Dr. Lewis discusses “quantum immortality”—the idea that death is an illusion, and our consciousness simply splinters into other realities.
  • Dr. Lewis: “Apparently, it’s this belief that our energy can never really die. ... He wasn't afraid of dying because of it.” (19:53)

6. A Final Chance at Freedom (22:11 – 23:44)

• Mendez gifts Dr. Lewis an escape route via contact info for Roger Benoff and prepares to sacrifice himself to destroy Springfield’s storm apparatus, despite certain danger.
  • Mendez: “Come on, Spacer. We both know I’m already a dead man.” (22:04)
• Parting words underscore growth and latent hope, as Dr. Lewis is urged to “go find out who you are without having all the answers.” (Mendez, 23:03)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Squires: “I only had one pair of handcuffs.” (01:11)
• Dr. Lewis: “For the past two years, I've done everything I can to expose this place. Once I found out about it ... it's all pointless.” (05:34)
• John: "Fuck your science. You’re more of a monster than the things you kept down here." (05:25)
• Dan: “Because, well, this is gonna hurt a lot. And I don't want to go too far.” (10:25)
• Mendez: "Spacer here thinks he can talk to ghosts." (08:06)
• Dr. Lewis: “When Crowley died, she came into the morgue. She told me Amelia was Joy.” (18:03)
• Dr. Lewis: “He wasn't afraid of dying because of it.” (19:53)
• Mendez: “Come on, Spacer. We both know I'm already a dead man.” (22:04)
• Mendez: “Go find out who you are without having all the answers.” (23:03)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:09 – Main story begins (post-advertising)
• 10:23–11:13 – Dan’s forced brain biopsy on John
• 13:37 – John wakes up from the ordeal; new escape attempt begins
• 17:08–17:12 – Tense decision: Mendez refuses to free John
• 18:03–20:22 – Dr. Lewis explains her connections with the dead & discusses quantum immortality
• 22:11–23:44 – Mendez provides Dr. Lewis with a lifeline and heads off for possible self-sacrifice

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a bleak, tense, and emotionally charged atmosphere, laced with gallows humor and candid vulnerability. The dialogue retains the gritty, realistic style that defines How I Died, balancing supernatural intrigue with raw human emotion. The characters' histories and traumas come to the forefront, challenging their concepts of morality, identity, and what it means to find redemption.

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Final Impressions

"Selfless" sees the central cast forced to confront not only the peril outside their cells but also the ghosts residing within themselves. As betrayals and alliances get reshuffled, the theme of self-sacrifice emerges: survival comes at a cost, and escaping Springfield may mean letting go—of power, certainty, or even one’s life. The episode masterfully sets up for a powerful season finale, leaving major fates hanging in the balance.

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Transcript

[John]

So good, so good, so good.

[Mendez]

Score.

[Janie]

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[Dr. Lewis]

Cause there's always something new.

[Janie]

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[Narrator]

Kids. They grow up so fast. One day they're taking their first steps.

[Janie]

And the next they don't fit into.

[Narrator]

The tiny sneakers they took them in. You blink your eyes and their princess dress is two sizes too small. And their dinosaur backpack isn't cool anymore. But don't cry because they're growing up. Smile because you can profit off of it for real. There are a bunch of parents on Depop looking for the stuff your kid just grew out of of download Depop to start selling.

[John]

Ah. Why am I the only one in handcuffs?

[Squires]

Because I can't fucking see you otherwise. And I only had one pair of handcuffs.

[Dr. Lewis]

Squires, what are you doing?

[Squires]

What I was paid for.

[Dr. Lewis]

And solving Alex's murder doesn't mean anything to you all of a sudden?

[Squires]

We solved it.

[Janie]

Why would Dr. Lewis kill him?

[John]

This whole place sucks.

[Dr. Lewis]

Please put the gun down.

[Squires]

It's just orders.

[Dr. Lewis]

And you already said I'm not a threat, remember?

[Squires]

And I see you trying not to look at that tray of tools.

[Janie]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Squires]

You want to do a repeat of your time at Springfield?

[Dr. Lewis]

John. Dr. Lewis would be pissed if you killed me. She would have told you to shoot us already, not lock us up.

[Squires]

Unlike the last guy who pointed a gun at you in a morgue. I'm actually quite a good shot.

[Janie]

She loved Alex.

[John]

Enough, Janie. Who cares?

[Squires]

I gotta admit, I'm still a little curious as to the what we've made.

[Dr. Lewis]

A decision on if you're gonna turn yourself in for murder.

[Janie]

On what we're going to do with you all here.

[Mendez]

We?

[Narrator]

It.

[Janie]

You can't just leave us in here. I'm sorry, Janie.

[John]

If you're really sorry, you'd let us go.

[Dr. Lewis]

Dr. Lewis, you're a woman of science, not whatever this is, whatever caused you.

[Janie]

This is science, John.

[Narrator]

And it's not.

[Janie]

Not my call. Squires.

[John]

Yes, ma'. Am.

[Squires]

I'm good to stay.

[John]

Fuck your science. You're more of a monster than the things you kept down here.

[Janie]

We've already seen what happens to the Greys once They're exposed to a secondary storm. We've even seen people with augmentations be affected.

[John]

Bitch.

[Janie]

But John, you're a special case.

[Narrator]

We.

[Janie]

We don't know how the storm will affect you. It may give you your gift back. Dr. Lewis. You're leaving us here to die?

[Dr. Lewis]

Why did you kill him? He was your friend. He was scared and tired of that cycle he was talking about. He injected himself with the serum, didn't he? And Alex probably just wanted a normal life to go back to. Alex is Mendez. They kept you down here.

[Janie]

I truly hope you all survive.

[Mendez]

Alex is dead. She killed him. Fuck you.

[Dr. Lewis]

Did you know he was down here?

[Squires]

Your friend and I had a nice chat a couple of days ago.

[Dr. Lewis]

So Crowley never made it back to. You've been here the whole time?

[John]

Hey, dummy. You're staying watch?

[Squires]

Yeah, more or less. Watching you and the facility perimeter.

[John]

How much is she paying you for that lap dog?

[Janie]

Huck, stop.

[Dr. Lewis]

Indez.

[Janie]

Eugene. That was your name, right? If you stay here, you're going to die too.

[Squires]

Or get a superpower as it seems.

[John]

You can't be serious.

[Squires]

If it doesn't work out, there's an antidote for that gray sickness, right?

[Janie]

Only if it doesn't kill you first. But if you let us go.

[Dr. Lewis]

He's not gonna let us go.

[Squires]

Sorry, friends, but like Dr. Lewis said, there's a chance we can all come out of this alive. And are we hungry?

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Dr. Lewis]

You?

[Narrator]

No.

[Squires]

Suit yourselves.

[Janie]

Okay, we can figure a way out.

[Dr. Lewis]

There's no point.

[Janie]

Don't say that.

[Dr. Lewis]

For the past two years, I've done everything I can to expose this place. Once I found out about it, it's pointless. It's all pointless. Don't you see?

[John]

So get mad. Don't give up.

[Dr. Lewis]

It's over. It's done. We lost. I gave up before. And I never should have thought things would change.

[Mendez]

Poor dog.

[Dr. Lewis]

Fool.

[John]

Who?

[Dr. Lewis]

Mendez? I don't even know what to say.

[Mendez]

Then don't, okay? Just shut up for once.

[Janie]

You're the guy who tried to break in here.

[Mendez]

I didn't break in. I was trying to find this place.

[Janie]

Why? To save John.

[Mendez]

Save Spacer here is an escaped convict. So was Dr. Gatz.

[John]

You didn't know what Springfield Corps was either.

[Mendez]

Oh, I did. By the time I was pointed in this direction, Spacer was blabbing about it for months.

[Dr. Lewis]

Someone else knows where we are. Yeah.

[Mendez]

Yeah. I found Roger, the old pathologist.

[Janie]

You guys work together?

[Dr. Lewis]

Wait, Roger Benhoff? He was alive?

[Mendez]

He's hiding under a different name. I poked enough soft Spots. And he found me.

[John]

Really?

[Mendez]

But, yeah, he's alive.

[Dr. Lewis]

So he really did fake his death to get out of Springfield. They were threatening him.

[Mendez]

Turns out he offered to get me and Crowley out, too.

[Dr. Lewis]

He didn't know.

[John]

He didn't know what?

[Mendez]

You haven't told him what you did, huh? Do you even know him at all?

[Janie]

Well enough.

[Mendez]

He killed two people and helped a serial killer hide her tracks.

[Janie]

John.

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mendez]

Go ahead, John. Deny it.

[Dr. Lewis]

It's true.

[Narrator]

Shit.

[Dr. Lewis]

Then.

[Mendez]

Then I find out you're working for this fucking place. Figures.

[Dr. Lewis]

After not working for them, sure. Don't you see me in the same cell next to you? Oh.

[Mendez]

About time. I do. Yeah.

[Dr. Lewis]

Jesus, Mendez. Your brother asked me.

[Mendez]

Don't you say that.

[Dr. Lewis]

Alex knew he was gonna die. He asked me to come talk to him as a ghost.

[Mendez]

God, this bullshit again.

[John]

Still, I'm confused.

[Mendez]

Spacer here thinks he can talk to ghosts.

[Janie]

He could.

[Dr. Lewis]

Could?

[Mendez]

Are you all delirious? What, Is there some kind of fucking gas leak I don't know about?

[Janie]

Do you see anyone in that cell across from you?

[Dr. Lewis]

No.

[Mendez]

It's too dark.

[Janie]

You wouldn't be able to see him anyway. Huck's invisible.

[John]

It's true. Look. Well, I mean, look. But, like, you can't see me. All I have are these handcuffs on me.

[Janie]

You're naked.

[John]

No, I mean, my clothes are invisible, too. Whatever's touching me at the time.

[Mendez]

Come on, y'.

[Narrator]

All.

[Mendez]

This is ridiculous.

[John]

It's true, Dr. Dan.

[Dan]

Seems I was wrong. Look at you.

[John]

In the flesh.

[Dr. Lewis]

Ow.

[John]

Get that light out of my eyes.

[Dr. Lewis]

Dan, can you get us out of here?

[Janie]

Mendez, look across from you.

[Mendez]

There's no one in here.

[John]

Hiya.

[Dr. Lewis]

What the fuck, Dan? Seriously? Do you hear what they're gonna do to us?

[Dan]

I was a part of making the decision.

[Mendez]

Come on.

[Dr. Lewis]

After all of this?

[Mendez]

Holy shit.

[Dan]

I do have a last request before I go though. Sanctioned by On High. So I'm gonna need you to come to your bars, John.

[Dr. Lewis]

Why?

[Dan]

I have an injection for you.

[Dr. Lewis]

If you're not gonna get us out of here, just piss off, Dan.

[Dan]

Can't do that, Dr. John.

[Dr. Lewis]

Get the fuck back.

[Dan]

This needle is for you. One way or another, if you come in here. Don't fight it, Dr. John.

[Dr. Lewis]

I'll fucking.

[John]

I'll.

[Dan]

Pokey, pokey. Come here.

[John]

John.

[Dan]

Aw, now look at what you did.

[John]

Fuck you.

[Dr. Lewis]

Gotcha now, you.

[Dan]

It's just a mild paralytic, Dr. John.

[Dr. Lewis]

Relax. Use it.

[John]

Don't you touch him.

[Dan]

Oh, hush, Ronald.

[Janie]

John, can you hear us?

[Dan]

Don't worry. He's very much.

[Dr. Lewis]

Awake.

[Dan]

I need him awake for this.

[John]

John, Fight it. He took Alex's brain.

[Dan]

Don't be so dramatic. I don't want Dr. John to die. But everyone gets that brain biopsy eventually. I'm gonna need you to keep your eyes open as long as you can, okay? Because, well, this is gonna hurt a lot. And I don't want to go too far.

[Mendez]

Oh, fuck.

[John]

Stop.

[Dan]

Up through the nose. Just a lot.

[Narrator]

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[Janie]

He's coming.

[John]

John. Thank God.

[Janie]

John, are you okay?

[Narrator]

Mm.

[Squires]

Good Morning, Sleeping Beauty.

[Mendez]

Mm.

[Squires]

Can you talk? Crazy Dan asked me to make sure you could talk.

[Dr. Lewis]

Fuck.

[Squires]

There we go.

[Dr. Lewis]

Did he.

[Janie]

He pulled out a chunk of your brain from your nose. It was disgusting.

[John]

How long you've been out for?

[Dr. Lewis]

Hours. Storm.

[Squires]

It's almost morning. No idea when this thing's supposed to happen, but sure, it's taking its sweet old time here. It's just water. I have no interest in poisoning it. You've been awfully quiet.

[Mendez]

I'm trying to sleep.

[Squires]

Sleeping through the end, huh? Lucky.

[Mendez]

Fine. Got any water for me?

[Squires]

Did you just have your brain sucked out? I didn't think so. Give me the cup back.

[Dr. Lewis]

It's a paper cup.

[Squires]

And there are at least four ways to kill somebody with it. We don't take any chances on my watch.

[Janie]

Can't you just leave us alone? We're not going anywhere.

[Squires]

I miss out on the great conversation. I'll be back.

[John]

Are you really okay?

[Dr. Lewis]

As much as I can be.

[Janie]

Is anyone feeling any symptoms yet?

[John]

I don't think so.

[Janie]

Okay, he's gone.

[Mendez]

Oh, gee, thanks. I heard it too, smartass.

[Dr. Lewis]

What's going on?

[John]

When he knocked Dad's bag, all his shit went all over in Mendez. Grass?

[Mendez]

Supposed to be.

[Dr. Lewis]

Keep it.

[Mendez]

A lookout.

[John]

A scalpel.

[Dr. Lewis]

You're trying to cut through the bars with a scalpel?

[Janie]

He's already got two of them. You can almost fit a shoulder through. They're just leaning so the Squires won't notice.

[Dr. Lewis]

Have you been doing that the whole time?

[Mendez]

Not dying?

[Janie]

It's kind of impressive, honestly. Going on five hours now.

[John]

Keep it in your pants, Janie.

[Janie]

I get the scalpel next.

[John]

You think you can solve for five.

[Janie]

Hours with Mendez's help? Maybe.

[Mendez]

Got it.

[Dr. Lewis]

Can you fit?

[John]

Come on.

[Narrator]

You got it.

[Mendez]

Jesus.

[John]

You out?

[Mendez]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Janie]

Now what?

[Dr. Lewis]

Squires is gonna come back. You won't have time to saw through any more bars.

[Janie]

You're just going to leave us here?

[John]

You asshole.

[Dr. Lewis]

What else is he supposed to do?

[John]

Wait here? Jump Squires? Oh, no. We didn't know what he was doing.

[Janie]

Shut up, Huck, before he kills us all.

[Mendez]

I'm not killing anyone.

[Janie]

You're alive. But we heard a. Oh, Here.

[Squires]

Hurry.

[Mendez]

Open invisible guy's cell, too.

[John]

Ah.

[Dr. Lewis]

No.

[Janie]

What? Why not?

[Mendez]

John stays.

[Janie]

No way. You can't keep him here to die.

[John]

He's got the gun, Janie.

[Janie]

So shoot me, then. I'm opening it back up.

[John]

Huck, I don't want to have to fight you.

[Dr. Lewis]

It's okay. You guys. Just leave me. John, it's okay. Go. You want me to look at that.

[Mendez]

I'll be fine. So, what? You could really see ghosts?

[Dr. Lewis]

I can't convince you, Mendez. Either you believe me or you don't.

[Mendez]

They gave you answers to those cases, didn't they? That's how you were so good at closing. And Crowley.

[Dr. Lewis]

When Crowley died, she came into the morgue. She told me Amelia was Joy. That's how I told you. Did you know that Amelia was Joy?

[Mendez]

That Fran was dead already?

[Dr. Lewis]

No. She said she'd meet me there. It wasn't until I saw her body and her in Amelia's basement, It hit me as hard as.

[Mendez]

No, shut up.

[Dr. Lewis]

She was with you after she died. You don't have to believe me, but she was.

[Mendez]

God. Felt she was with me.

[Dr. Lewis]

God.

[Mendez]

I don't know how to explain it. I could just. I could just feel her.

[Dr. Lewis]

Can you still.

[Mendez]

You can't see her anymore?

[Dr. Lewis]

I can't see any of them.

[John]

You.

[Mendez]

You let those two leave pretty easy.

[Dr. Lewis]

Would you have let me out? There's no point. If the storm gives me my. If it fixes me, then you're just like Squires.

[Mendez]

You willing to risk dying for it?

[Dr. Lewis]

I don't know who I am without it.

[Mendez]

Yeah, Maybe that's a good thing.

[Dr. Lewis]

Before he died, Alex and I. I don't.

[Mendez]

I don't want to hear it.

[Dr. Lewis]

Alex talked to me about dying. He said he's sure it worked in some kind of ironic continuum. He called it quantum immortality. Have you ever heard of it? Apparently, it's this belief that our energy can never really die. Our brain just makes up some kind of situation where we actually survive whatever would have killed us. He wasn't afraid of dying because of it.

[Mendez]

Can. Can I ask you. All these crazy effects, Alex.

[Dr. Lewis]

He thought you died in the storm. Springfield Corp lied to him. And when he saw you.

[Mendez]

Yeah, I could tell. Did he know about. Did he know I was down here?

[Dr. Lewis]

He said he wished he could leave and go back to a normal life. With you. I doubt he'd be okay with you being kept in this cell. I mean, he might have found out. And that's why Dr. Lewis. Why Iris killed him. Now they're just gonna let another storm come, destroy more lives, do more tests, and then draw more storms? I'm sure you figured it out when you were looking into all this. There's nothing we can do about any of it. It's too big. It's pointless. It's stupid to think I was any kind of hero. You're gonna bleed out.

[Mendez]

You know where. Do you know where the main thing Is whatever. Whatever part draws the storm.

[Dr. Lewis]

The crochet. Yeah, Alex showed me.

[Mendez]

Where is it from here?

[Dr. Lewis]

Mendez, if the storm kills me, so be it, but I am not going anywhere near that thing. But you're gonna have to shoot me.

[Mendez]

No, not you. I'm going to. I'm gonna destroy it.

[Dr. Lewis]

Our version in Springfield is what blew up. It obliterated Mike, Melba and the rest of the employees. You'll die.

[Mendez]

Come on, spacer. We both know I'm already a dead man.

[Dr. Lewis]

It's down the hall and past that lab.

[Mendez]

Here.

[Dr. Lewis]

What's this?

[Mendez]

Roger Benoff's cell number. He knows how to get people out of the system. Springfield Corp will never find you.

[Dr. Lewis]

You're letting me out? We can both leave. I can what?

[Mendez]

Carry me. No offense, Johnny, but neither of us are making it far in that case. Plus, I just found Alex. I'm not letting him go again.

[Dr. Lewis]

Mendez, go.

[Mendez]

Go find out who you are without having all the answers.

[Dr. Lewis]

Thank you. Hey.

[Mendez]

Hey, Doc. Do you think. You think Crowley's still here?

[Dr. Lewis]

She left to look for you. I don't know.

[Mendez]

I didn't ask if you knew. I asked if you think she is.

[Dr. Lewis]

Yeah, I do.

[Mendez]

See you, doc. Bye.

[Dr. Lewis]

Windows. It.

[Mendez]

All right.

[Janie]

John Doe, male, in his 30s, found in the woods. No parent caused death, so we've got our work cut out for us. You. You want the chart? Everything okay, Dr. White?

[Dan]

Hmm?

[Dr. Lewis]

Oh, sorry. Let's figure out how you were killed, huh? How I Died is an Audio Media original production written by Vince De Johnny with layout and sound design by Chris Harris Beachy and executive produced by Michael Freiberg. Theme song created by Silent Mike Music Starring Shana Waring as Sheriff Crowley Luis Bermudez as Eric Mendez, Kaitlyn Roberts as Amelia, Chris Harris Beachy as Officer Hart and Agent Squires. Guancarlo Herrera as Alex Juliet ann Jelly as Dr. Iris. Also featuring performances by Albie Robles, Anthony Morales, Maya Murphy, June Yoon, Bea Gnar, Nicholas Contreras, Alejandro Pedroza, Mick Wheaton REM Isaac Monroe, Nassim En El Kor, Nick Bean, Angela Yee, Ray O', Hare, Gauthier Horber, Vin Vox, Melissa Lusk, D.W. draffin, Patrick Langner, Robert Echols, Karen Heyman and Tyler rudis. Check out patreon.com howidied for bonus content ad free episodes and exclusive miniseries. Until next time, try not to die.

[Narrator]

There are names that echo in the world of true crime. Names that carry unanswered questions. Oakley Carlson. A five year old girl who deserved safety, protection and love. Yet the system built to protect her failed and Oakley disappeared. Her community still calls her name.

[John]

Or Ellen Greenberg, found in her locked apartment with 20 stab wounds, a case declared a suicide. But how does a locked apartment tell two different stories at once?

[Narrator]

These are not just cases we have covered. They are people. They were loved and they mattered.

[John]

Their stories deserve to be told with care, with depth, with truth.

[Narrator]

I'm Ashley.

[John]

And I'm Ricky.

[Narrator]

We are the husband and wife duo behind Crime Salad.

[John]

Every week we uncover stories of the missing, the silence, the misunderstood. We ask the questions that were left behind. We refuse to let these stories be.

[Narrator]

Forgotten because behind every case is a family holding on, a community seeking answers and and a story that deserves to be heard.

[John]

We invite you to listen to Crime.

[Narrator]

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[John]

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