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Hey, Will. Here. You may remember me from our yearly Trends Report episodes. I'm one of the in house product designers for Ballard Designs. One of my favorite pieces that I designed that's launching this spring is the Marist Desk. I was in an antique store a couple of years ago and I saw this beautiful little detail on this desk and it instantly was like the most unique detail that just spoke to me. I took that detail, added a contemporary finish with these graceful, sweeping cabriole legs and a very seamless silhouette, bringing a touch of Parisian chic to any home office. So go check out all of our Latest arrivals@ballardesigns.com New I have a feeling you're going to find some pieces you really love. Alright, let's get back to the show.
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Welcome to how to Decorate from Ballard Designs, a weekly podcast all about the trials and triumphs of decorating and redecorating your home. I'm Caroline, I'm on the marketing team. And I'm Taryn and I'm a product designer. I'm Liz. I head of the creative team. We're your hosts. Join the expert team at Ballard Designs for tips, tricks and tales from interior designers, stylists and other talents in the design world. Plus, we'll answer your decorating dilemmas at the end of each episode. We love answering your questions, so don't forget to email us@podcastallardesigns.net now on with the show. Okay, we're back for week three of the Carson Kressley miniseries. Of course, if you have not already listened to episodes one and two with Tom, Felicia and the John Gypsies, then you got to go back and listen to those because you don't want to miss them. But before we get into the show, Carson, why don't you tell us about the delightful guest that you brought to chat with us.
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Oh, well, thank you so much. I would love to. Yeah, I feel like we've, you know, done City Chic with Tom Felicia and then we did Texas Boho with the Junk Gypsies. And now we're going back to New York City. Live from the set of Beat Bobby Flay, I had a little chat with my friend, the iron chef himself, Mr. Bobby Flay. And here's a little twist on his podcast, he always cooks for his guest. He made me a pork chop and it was delicious.
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It looked good.
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It was like beyond. Everything he makes is like just flavor explosion. But I actually dared to cook for Bobby in this episode. I actually baked. I'm more of a baker, if you know Me, you know, I'm Amish adjacent, so I'm very good at the baking from my childhood in Pennsylvania with my almost Amish grandmothers. And we'll see what he thinks about my concoction.
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I was very impressed, Carson. I, I, well, not only because you and Car, you and Bobby have such a great rep, you know, repartee, but I did not know that you were a baker, so that was really fun to learn. And the, the pies looked beautiful. So, yeah, we talked about Bobby's own kitchens and how he likes to outfit them for entertaining. We talked about his orange, the orange glow. So you'll have to watch out for that one. I loved that conversation because that is a topic that we talk about a lot on the podcast and so I think we should just jump into the conversation.
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Yeah, let's, let's eat. Make some noise for Bobby Flay, everybody.
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Woo. Yay.
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The crowd goes wild.
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Welcome.
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Yeah, thanks for joining us, food writer, television personality. But today we're going to talk about something that I don't think you've talked about on many podcasts, which is design. And I know you have an eye for design because you always compliment my tasteful outfits. I know you know what good stuff is, and I've been to a couple of your homes and they're exquisite. So I just wanted to kick that off. Are you a design lover? And I am. What, what, what does it do? What do you love about it?
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well, I mean, you know, especially in, I guess in my, in, in my home and in my restaurants, obviously they're incredibly important for happiness.
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Right? Right.
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I mean, you know, when you, when, when you think about, when you think about restaurants, you know, there's obviously the menu, which is important to me as a chef, of course, and the cuisine, et cetera, you know, the food and the service, obviously, thing that people think about. But design is just as important because not only do you want people to walk in and say, this is beautiful, this is cool, this is comforting, this is warm, this is exciting, or whatever it is, or, but you also want to make sure that people Feel like they look good in the room, too, which is. Which is something that I think sometimes restaurateurs don't think about. And, you know, we do, you know, a handful of things to make. To sort of guarantee that so that everybody feels good about themselves and the restaurant that they're in. Yeah.
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And what do you do? Because I think that's great takeaway for listeners in their own home. Because, like, I've always heard, like, don't paint your dining room, like, baby blue because it makes your food look green, and don't paint your dining room green because it makes your food look green also. Yeah. So what are some of the tricks? Lighting, color, et cetera.
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It's lighting. Lighting is a very, very, very important thing that doesn't get the. The. The headlines on the billboard, but it's so incredibly important. I mean, I've had restaurants like Bar American, for instance, that was in Midtown, that had 1500 light bulbs. You just didn't see most of them. And we had this. We created this, basically, we call it the Orange Glow. My restaurant Brussels be in Vegas. And it's. Everybody feels like they have the most perfect hand, and they. They feel it. And they.
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They.
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They enjoy themselves sitting in your dining room. They feel good about having people kind of glance at them across the room and all that, all while, you know, they're. They're dining on your food and drinking your cocktails, et cetera. And, you know, all those things that they either think about or don't think about subconsciously add up to, you know, the next day when they think about whether or not they had a good time. It's all part of it.
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Right. And they look. They look good in their selfies. Like, lighting is important in that way. And they're going to promote the restaurant that way. Are you having your lunchtime bourbon?
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No, it does look that way. It's actually iced tea. I got. We got. What kind of tea is this? Moroccan mint tea from Shuka.
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Oh, wow. Is that Shuka? Like, Aisha rare Du Fat Aisha.
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Yeah.
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He's the best. You got to watch listeners. You got to watch Triple Threat and see Aisha and the whole.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I think you're in the hospitality business first and foremost, and that's about. That's about making people feel comfortable or at ease or sexy or like they're in France or your restaurant Amalfi in Las Vegas makes you feel like you're in Italy. Yeah. So they're really transformative spaces. And I think the design, you know, we always Say we eat with our eyes first. I think when we go to a restaurant, we start the dining experience. We walk in the door.
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Yes, for sure. That's for sure. And, and I actually I'm, I'm sort of in the design business. Adjacent, I like, I like to say, because there's a woman named Olivia Jane who I partnered, I put, I helped sort of launch her, her design business. And she was working for Rockwell, David Rockwell, for like many years out of school. And I met her because she was designing my restaurants. And then I hired her to do one of my homes. And that's how we met originally. And at some point I said to her, like, when you're ready to go on your own, let me know and I'll, I'll help you launch your business. And so we launched that business about three years ago and she's doing just a great job. And so it's nice to have sort of, you know, an in house designer because, you know, I love projects like that.
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Right. And it's consistent. And she knows, I think if you, you have a, you have a vernacular or a lexicon of words that she totally understands. If you say, I want my restaurant to feel this way, she knows what you want and you're home. Speaking of which, Bobby Flay has an amazing podcast. It's called Bobby on the Beat. I believe it's very highly rated and I had the pleasure of doing it. What's great about doing Bobby's podcast is you get to go to his apartment in Manhattan and.
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Fabulous.
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Yeah, the actual address is. No, but it's a downtown. It's all the downtown coolness and it is very chic. I would say it's like a mid century Parisian. Definitely a man's apartment with a lot of, you know, statement leather sofas and big beautiful, like sculptural French. Almost looks like it was from like a beautiful hotel in France. That's the anchor lighting fixture in your living room. The most beautiful bathrooms you've ever seen. There is more marble in there than the Vatican.
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Yeah, every, every bath is a different stone. Yeah. Thank you. And I love vintage furniture also. I mean, it's, it's, it's where I
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gravitate towards you actually go and search for that. Or does your designer do that?
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No, no. Usually when we start a project, she comes over to my house, we open a bottle of wine, and in four hours we have a template from what we're doing about to endeavor. And it's, you know, we, we go on first dibs a lot. I'M not going to lie. I'm. I'm slightly addicted to it because you can find spectacular things there. I mean, and she's very resourceful, you know, as. As being somebody who's in the interior design business. She has all kinds of resources in terms of, you know, furniture people to build things, mill workers, all those kinds of things. I mean, it's, it's. That's, that's. That's really truly the luxury that I have is being her business partner, which is that for resourcefulness is really second to none.
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Right, Right. Yeah. She knows where to get the good stuff.
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And usually what happens as. I mean, I want to, like, you know, she has all kinds of clients. She has some clients where they just say, just do it.
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Right.
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And. And they. She just picks she. Because they may not. They may not have confidence in their own taste and style as much as they think that she does, which is why a lot of times people hire a designer and they'll. And they'll. You know, I'm thinking of one client in particular, and he's just as, like, just. Just let me know when it's ready. And she just goes out and buys stuff, and he gives her, you know, somewhat of a budget, Right. And she. She buys and fills his house, and that's the end of it. I want to. I want to be involved in picking out every single thing. So, like, for instance, it could be, you know, a dining room table. And she'll say, all right, for what you want, here's five ideas.
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Right?
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And she'll send me five ideas to look at. And if there's something that really strikes me, I'll be like, I like B. And then we'll buy it.
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Right? Right.
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If there's nothing that I like, she'll give me five more the next couple of days, you know, so it's like. It's a process, you know, of rolling through it.
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Yeah. Back to the drawing board. And when you're sourcing these antique pieces that you really resonate with and I've seen in your home, do you actually go to some of the places? Like, have you been to, like, the Paris flea market? I know. You're such a big traveler. Do you buy things when you're in Italy? I know that's a favorite place. I know you have a home in London. Are you out there looking? He sounds so fancy, doesn't he? But he's very. It's very modest, I promise. So fancy urban. Yeah. But do you actually like to go to, like, flea markets? Like, have you Been to any amazing destinations where you're like, this is a great design place to visit?
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Yeah. I mean, I actually have been to the Paris flea market. I. To be perfectly honest, I'm intimidated by places like that because I don't know exactly what I'm buying. I mean, if there's something that just strikes me, I don't really care about it. Like, I. I always want to. I always want to buy things of quality. And so in a place like that, sometimes I'm concerned that I'm not really buying what I think I'm buying. So you have to be kind of careful, especially if it's something that is costly, you know?
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Yeah.
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And. And so I'd. I'd rather have somebody like Olivia kind of vet the furniture that. That we're going to buy. You know, it's like, I. I think, you know, when you buy from some place that's reputable, like, there's some confidence there.
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Right.
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You know, whether it's. Whether it's a retail, you know, store, or whether it's even. Even, like a place like First Dibs, I mean, they've, you know, I mean, not. Nothing's perfect. Perfectly, you know, nothing's perfectly safe. But, you know, for the most part, like, a place like First Dibs has vetted their vendors, you know, and they have reputations, and they. If they mess up once they're done. So, I mean.
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Right.
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I feel like if. If I'm buying a expensive chandelier from Norway.
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Right.
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Like, it's really vintage. Yeah.
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You'll actually receive one.
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Oh, yeah.
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Exact. Exactly.
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In the crate. Yes. I bought exactly right. Rugs in Morocco one time that never showed up. So there you go.
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Right. Of course.
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I have this whole list of questions. I was so prepared. What would you say in all of your travels is your favorite design city? I mean, I know you love Italy, but is that probably where you love the vibe the most?
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It's very interesting. You know, I've been in love with Rome for a long time, but I don't. I don't look to Rome for
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lot of design inspiration in my house, you know? You know, I really do love London, and I love Paris for design as well. I think that, you know, I'm a. I'm a New Yorker, so I gravitate towards big cities like that. I don't like things that are too, like, ornate. You know, I like a little flash here and there. But for the most part, I buy for. I buy for design, but I also buy for comfort. Like, I want functional Furniture I don't want just a piece, so to speak. Like, the piece has to be comfortable to sit on and, and make sense in, in the, in the bigger scope of what I'm trying to create, whether it's like in a living room or a bedroom or whatever it is. And so yeah, that, that, that's like. And I don't, I don't mind taking risk, but usually I take pops of risk here and there, you know, and then everything else is, I wouldn't say, you know, pedestrian or ordinary, but it's like, like it kind of makes sense. Like I'm not trying to like make a statement in every foot of my, of my home.
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Bobby, do you entertain a lot at home?
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Do I entertain? Yeah, I, I entertain all the time. It's really the thing I love to do most. And, and you know, my house, whether it's in New York or the Hamptons or whatever, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's created to house entertainment. Like in other words, like, I cook for people all the time and you know, sometimes it's sizable amounts of people.
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Yeah.
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So I'm ready, right?
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This man is the ultimate entertainer because I visited him in LA and I visited him in New York. And like, it's the first thing, you know, you're like, what would you like to drink? Oh, by the way, I'm making pizza in la. And he was like in his backyard with the pizza oven and then he came in with this beautiful pizza. And same in New York, the downtown apartment. You walk through a beautiful kind of French bistro inspired metal vestibule with antique glass and you know, mirrored mercury glass walls. And then you're in the kitchen, which is a very handsome kitchen, but your spaces are all geared towards again, hospitality and that graciousness of like, I'm gonna make you feel so welcome because I made you this drink and this delicious food and, and that's really, that's entertaining at the BET Truly.
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We've certainly talked a lot about kitchen design, but never from the point of view of a professional chef. So I'd be curious to hear how you might set up your kitchen differently. You know, not only knowing you're hosting lots of people, but just because you're in kitchens all the, all the time. So does your kitchen at home look like, do you want it to be more of a restaurant kitchen or like a homey spot?
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It's a great question. I, you know, in my, in my New York apartment, I have an 18 foot island. It's very long, because I want. I want a lot of workspace. And it also doubles it as a place to, like, sit and have a casual meal or sit and have a drink or whatever it is. And then it kind of spills in, without any walls, into the dining room in the living room. So the dining room, the living room and the kitchen are basically one. One big room without walls. And I like it that way because I can be cooking in the kitchen. I can be talking to people in the dining room. I can be talking to people in the living room all from behind the island, which is really, really great. In my house in the Hamptons, I literally have a cafe in my kitchen. So there's bistro tape. There's. There's like, three tables. There's three separate tables in, like, on the other side of my island that people sit at, like, as if you're in a cafe. So. And people love it. We use it for breakfast a lot. And everybody kind of takes their own table, and we watch the news and they open their computer, and it's almost like they're, you know, they're at some, like, French cafe somewhere in the south of France or something.
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It's fabulous.
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So I, you know, my. My restaurant life has certainly inspired my home design, for sure.
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Yeah. Do you like a white kitchen, A dark kitchen? What do you think about colors?
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My kitchen in. In the Hamptons, I built this house 15 years ago, and the walls are actually this sort of. This kind of aqua color that I got from a. A design in a hotel out in the Hamptons that I just loved. And I asked him for the paint color, and it's been 15 years, and it's really held up. And in fact, it's been copied a lot. People have told me, like, I've. I've stole your paint color.
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That's.
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What.
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Do you know the color?
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Do you remember the color?
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No, I don't.
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I bet we could Google it.
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Yes, for sure. But it's. But, you know, it's definitely. It's taking, as I like to say, like. Like, I. I, you know, when I. When I've gone on, you know, hunts to buy a house or an apartment, you know, you. You go out with the real estate broker and you're going from one place to the other. And when somebody really. When. When somebody really, like, you know, does something kind of risky to a bathroom or a bedroom or. Or something, I always say, like, God, why. Why were they so opinionated about this? You know, and because. Just because I know I'm go. It you know, but, but you know, there are certain ways to, to, to, to design things that most people are going to be happy with, you know, like. But again then it doesn't have the same personality of, of who you are. So it's, I think it's a balance.
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Yeah, I think that's a, a balance everyone struggles with, you know, espec. Even people decorating their own homes because you want something bold but not so bold you get tired of it.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. I also think that people design their homes too often with the, with the thought process, with the thought process of well, what about if we want to sell it one day? I don't think that's a good way to live. I think you should, I think you should design it for the way you want to live in it. And then at some point if you want to sell it, figure it out but like let somebody else figure it out. But I just, I think that there's too much of like, you know, sort of jumping to the, to the next chapter of your life when you just starting a new one.
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That's very true. You know, Carson's collection has a bunch of entertaining wear and I don't know if he showed you any of it yet, but.
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Not yet. I'm hearing a lot about it though.
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It's very equestrian inspired. But he has lots of sort of entertaining pieces. Some like cheese boards and stuff. I'm curious if there are any, you know, entertaining, entertaining wear or items that you find are really helpful or useful when you're entertaining. Like what are your go to sort of pieces?
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I serve a lot of family style meals. Very rarely will I do a plated dinner from. In my house. I just. First of all, it's, it's. I, I find it to be comforting to the guests family style eating because they can take as little or as much as they want of one particular thing or, and maybe the opposite of something else. But, but bait. But, and so, so family style is very, very much my go to, I think like cool trays to kind of carry things around, you know, food stuff or whatever it is. I think that's a, I think that's, I think that's a, um, that's an item that isn't really thought about a lot when it comes to entertaining. Um, I just. That's, that's kind of one of the first things I think about.
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Yeah, I love a good serving piece. Sorry, I was in like Internet limbo and I'm back joining on my phone, I hope.
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Okay. Welcome back.
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So much I Miss you so deeply. I know we segued into the entertaining thing, and we're in the home stretch here. And speaking of that, I don't know if you guys know, but Bobby is also a lover of horses and has some of the most amazing racehorses. He's been a Breeders cup winner. I don't know. Did you have a Derby horse, a Kentucky Derby horse as well?
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I've not had a Kentucky Derby horse, but I've run in the. I've won the Belmont Stakes.
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Sure.
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And. And I had a horse running the Belmont Stakes last year named Crudo. He didn't run that well, but it was, it was really great for him to get there. Yeah, I love. I love. I love. Yeah, exactly. A true story. I love the. I love horses. I love thoroughbreds. I. I have some in Kentucky and I have some in England and France as well. And it really is like a. It's a fantastic way for me to make an excuse to go visit them, you know, in places where they are, because I love all those places and, and it's nice to have that as
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part of my life. I get it. I do the same thing. But I go to Pennsylvania. Not as glamorous as London and Kentucky, but we're doing a whole equestrian inspired line at Ballard. So you're gonna be getting some stuff from little old me, but I think you're gonna love it.
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Can't wait.
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And I know you had some bits and pieces. You had a house in Saratoga. And for those who don't know the horse racing world, Saratoga is like where everybody goes in August in the United States for horse racing. That's the place. Just like everybody comes to New York for tennis in September. And you had a home there that was very. I know your designer did it, and it was very, again, very on brand for Bobby Flay. It was handsome, comfortable. It was like a cigar room. But I think that had equestrian vibe. Did it have equestrian vibes?
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Yeah, well, first of all, I mean, we were on the, like the, the, the kitchen window faced the, the Oklahoma racetrack. So like, we, we had. When you say equestrian vibes. We had horses in the backyard training. So that's. That was always spectacular to wake up to in the morning. And yeah, we definitely had some for sort of, you know, some equestrian, you know, style furniture, et cetera, you know, kind of mixed in with like the, like, you know, with, with mid, you know, mid century modern vintage furniture as well. Yeah, I missed that house. It was, it was a, it was a. It was a house, I think it was from. I want to say it was 1920.
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Yeah, that sounds right. Like original 1920s.
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It was a Tudor. Yes, exactly. And, and then it was renovated right prior to me buying it. The woman who did it did a fantastic job. And then, you know, then we did a little bit of extra work, and then we filled it with, you know, furniture that we love.
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Right. I mean, when you, when you're lucky enough to have homes in different locations, I think it's really important to look outside and see, like, what the context of the place is. Like, you want a place in London to feel like it's in London and a place in Kentucky to feel like Kentucky.
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Yes.
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Tell us a little bit about your place in London, if you can.
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Yeah, I, I think you're right, Carson. I think sense of place, whether it's a restaurant or a home, is very important. You know, like, in London, obviously one of the major cities of the world, there's all kinds of buildings there. Like, you know, they're building. They're, you know, that, that I, I would say that London has some of the best food in the world right now. It's just a. It's a, It's a, it's a. It's a city on fire. And, and, you know, like, I would never buy an apartment there in a big modern glass building. Just like, maybe if I live. Maybe. Maybe I was from London, I would live in a building like that. But I'm not there all the time. I want to. When I go, when I land at Heathrow, I want to feel like I'm in London. So my apartment is, you know, from. My apartment's a hundred years old. It's one of those, you know, sort of old red sort of. They call them mansions, but they're not mansions. They're like buildings that are kind of. Kind of almost kind of stuck together, you know, like three buildings in a
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row, so to speak. Stone, kind of.
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Right, exactly. You know, like, with the red brick and, you know, beautiful moldings and things like that. But, like, I, like, I, I, you know, what I'm looking for in a case like that is I want the best of both worlds. I want the old charm and bones of this building, but I want things that work in the apartment. So I want the apartment to be renovated with, you know, sort of the, you know, modern things that, that work well, you know, that the shower is nice and the, you know, and the, and the kitchen is functional and all those things inside this beautiful old London building. So, yeah, that's, that's the kind of thing I look for.
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No, that's great because then you get, you know, the bones of the building, those moldings and the architecture give you all that character. And then you can make it totally modern if you want or just layer in the generation and get all that interest that way. Did. Speaking of London and the restaurant scene and it's on fire. I mean, just because we have you London restaurant picks. Do you have any recommendations?
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I do. One of my favorite Middle Eastern restaurants in the world is a place called Berenjack, which is in Soho in London. I go to a place called Scott's, which is an old school London place in Mayfair that a lot of local London people, Londoners go to. It's very, very fun. Where else do I go? I mean, there's so many. There's a place called Brat, which is really fun in, In East London. I don't know. I mean, I'll, I'll send you my list.
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This is a great design place, but it's also, I think has really good food. It's called the Broad Wick Soho and it's a very design driven hotel. It's absolutely beautiful. It'll give you like Annabelle's vibe. Like, it's like, like if you're. If your English grandma had a disco. It's what it looks like. And they have a delicious restaurant called like Dear Jackie, I think it's called and right district. And it's new Ish. And it's just a very, very beautiful place to stay in London. So there you have it, listeners. Yeah. Okay, one, one last question, girls. Do you have anything for Mr. Filet?
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My only question I wanted to ask is if you two could cook for each other, what would you cook each other For Carson. Yeah, for Carson. What would you cook Carson? And what would Carson cook for you, huh?
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I think, you know, I would probably. I would probably cook paella for Carson.
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Oh, my good.
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Just because paella is one of my. Paella is one of my favorite dishes. And I always feel, I always feel like you can feed the world with, with a, with a, with a pan of paella. And Carson. The one thing about Carson, like Carson is kind of like the paella of fashion. He's got a lot of things going on, but they all make sense together. And that's, you know, to me that's. That's Carson Kresley.
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Oh, my gosh. That's my Robert Williams play. What is, sweetheart? Thank you. If I could cook for Bobby. Well, he probably doesn't want me actually cooking for him. Because I'm not super great at that, but I.
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What do you mean? You baked me two pies today.
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And he. Yes, I thought I needed to be extra nice because he was so gracious and giving up most of our lunch hour to do the podcast today. So last night I whipped up two Pennsylvania Dutch custard. They're like a pie with like a, almost like a creme brulee kind of eggy custard filling. And one was strawberry. And Bobby, I went to Whole Foods and I bought you the expensive hot house strawberries that actually taste like strawberries. So I did one of those.
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Thank you.
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And then I did a raspberry custard as well. And.
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Yeah, so good.
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How were they, Bobby?
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Delicious. Really delicious. I've only eaten the raspberry so far, but we're going to break into the strawberry right after. Right after this podcast because I have a bunch of very hungry pie looking eaters in this room, so.
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I did not know that you were a baker, Carson. That's incredible.
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Well, now you know. Asking for a piece of.
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Bobby, we really appreciate you joining the podcast to chat with us. What is your, what's your, what show? What show do we need to watch? What, what's, what's coming up.
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But here I am in the next room. You can't get rid of me.
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Yeah. So beat Bobby Flay Triple Threat Barbecue
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Brawl and listen to your podcast. Podcast.
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Oh, oh, Bobby on the Beat podcast. That's, that's our new project and it's going really, really well. Amalfi, There's a new show every Monday, 8 o' clock in the morning, so tune in.
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What about your restaurants?
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Oh, yeah, there's a mouthy. There's Brasserie Whoop Raspberry B from Brasserie B. And Amalfi at Caesar's palace in Las Vegas. That's plenty.
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Bobby's Burgers, gate A31.
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Okay.
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At the Atlanta airport.
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Okay, perfect.
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Some of my favorites when in town, they scout Atlanta. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, guys. Big hugs.
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Appreciate it.
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Appreciate it.
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See you later.
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Bye.
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Well, that was delicious. Thank you so much to Bobby Flay for joining us today. Oh, and if. If my pies look delicious and delectable as Bobby said they were, and you'd like to whip one up yourself, there's some recipes in the show notes. If you were inspired by anything we talked about today, literally anything at all, you have to check out my exclusive new collection with Ballard Designs. We've put links to all my favorite pieces right in the show notes. So thanks again and click away. Thanks for listening everybody. I'll be back here again with the miniseries on the how to Decorate podcast with a very special guest and a great friend of mine, Ms. Pat Altschul, spilling all the Southern sweet tea and sharing her Southern charms with all of us.
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Host: Ballard Designs Team (Caroline, Taryn, Liz)
Guests: Carson Kressley, Bobby Flay
This episode is part three of the Carson Kressley mini-series, featuring a lively and insightful conversation between Carson Kressley and celebrity chef Bobby Flay. Departing from Bobby’s usual culinary topics, the discussion orbits around his passion for interior design and hospitality. The hosts and guests explore how design influences mood, the parallels between entertaining at home and in restaurants, and Bobby’s cherished design philosophies shaped by travel, functionality, and a distinct sense of place.
“...not only do you want people to walk in and say, this is beautiful, this is cool... but you also want to make sure that people feel like they look good in the room, too.” — Bobby (04:34)
“Lighting is a very, very, very important thing that doesn’t get the headlines... but it’s so incredibly important.” — Bobby (05:45) “Everybody feels like they have the most perfect tan, and they feel it.” — Bobby (06:19)
“It's nice to have sort of an in house designer... I love projects like that.” — Bobby (08:42) "We open a bottle of wine, and in four hours we have a template for what we're about to do." — Bobby (10:09)
“I’m slightly addicted to [1stDibs] because you can find spectacular things there.” — Bobby (10:09) “To be perfectly honest, I'm intimidated by places like the Paris flea market... I always want to buy things of quality.” — Bobby (12:46)
“I buy for design, but I also buy for comfort. Like, I want functional furniture—I don't want just a piece, so to speak.” — Bobby (14:40)
“My house... is created to house entertainment. I cook for people all the time and sometimes it’s sizable amounts.” — Bobby (15:58)
“...the dining room, the living room, and the kitchen are basically one big room without walls. And I like it that way...” — Bobby (17:39)
“The walls are actually this sort of aqua color... it's been 15 years, and it's really held up. And in fact, it's been copied a lot.” — Bobby (18:58)
“I think you should design it for the way you want to live in it... let somebody else figure it out [when you sell].” — Bobby (20:44)
“Family style is very, very much my go-to. I think cool trays to kind of carry things around... that’s an item that isn’t really thought about a lot when it comes to entertaining.” — Bobby (21:49)
“When I go...I want to feel like I'm in London. So my apartment is...a hundred years old, one of those old red sort of...‘mansions’.” — Bobby (26:18)
“I love London and Paris for design...I don't like things that are too ornate.” — Bobby (14:40)
“I love horses. I love thoroughbreds...It’s a fantastic way for me to make an excuse to go visit them.” — Bobby (23:23)
“Lighting is a very, very, very important thing that doesn’t get the headlines… but it’s so incredibly important.” — Bobby (05:45)
“I think you should design it for the way you want to live in it. And then at some point if you want to sell it, figure it out.” — Bobby (20:44)
“Carson is kind of like the paella of fashion. He’s got a lot of things going on, but they all make sense together.” — Bobby (29:54)
“If I could cook for Bobby...he probably doesn’t want me actually cooking for him because I’m not super great at that, but I...baked him two pies today.” — Carson (30:32)
“My house...is created to house entertainment. I cook for people all the time.” — Bobby (15:58)
| Time | Segment/Topic | |----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:35 | Carson introduces Bobby Flay and sets context for their conversation | | 03:18 | Discussion begins on Bobby’s relationship to design | | 05:45 | Bobby’s “orange glow” lighting philosophy and why lighting matters in restaurant and home | | 07:47 | Bobby’s collaboration with design partner Olivia Jane | | 09:15 | Carson’s vivid description of Bobby’s Manhattan apartment | | 10:09 | Process of sourcing and selecting furniture, especially via 1stDibs | | 12:46 | Antique shop and flea market strategies; discussing authentication and buying abroad | | 14:40 | Bobby’s design preferences: comfort, functionality, pops of risk | | 15:58 | Homes tailored for entertaining, description of hosting style | | 17:39 | Kitchen design: open plan layouts, restaurant influence, Hamptons “café” setup | | 18:58 | Signature kitchen color story and thoughts on color use | | 20:44 | Designing for yourself vs. resale; finding one’s personal design voice | | 21:49 | Bobby’s philosophy on entertaining: family-style meals and practical serveware | | 23:18 | Equestrian passion and influences in home design | | 25:42 | Details on the historic, equestrian-infused Saratoga house | | 26:18 | London apartment—anchoring design to local architectural context | | 28:24 | Bobby’s recommended dining spots in London | | 29:47 | Playful closing: What Bobby and Carson would cook for each other | | 31:05 | Carson’s Pennsylvania Dutch custard pies for Bobby, the “pie verdict” |
Bobby’s London Restaurant Picks (28:24):
Design Resources:
This episode demystifies the connections between hospitality, entertaining, and design for both home enthusiasts and professionals. Insights into Bobby Flay’s life—his homes, design inspiration, passion for horses, and love of hosting—illuminate how authenticity and hospitality can shape truly personal, inviting spaces.
Memorable closing exchange:
“Carson is kind of like the paella of fashion. He’s got a lot of things going on, but they all make sense together.” — Bobby (29:54) “If I could cook for Bobby... I baked him two pies today.” — Carson (30:32)
For recipes mentioned, Carson’s exclusive Ballard Designs collection, and full show notes, see the podcast page and links in the episode show notes.