Cry Fowl

Summary

Hyperfixed, "Cry Fowl" (Jan 29, 2026) – Episode Summary

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Hyperfixed, host Alex Goldman investigates the mysterious disappearance of ducks, geese, and other waterfowl from Avondale Park in Birmingham, Alabama, just before the 2022 World Games. What begins as a quirky local question unravels into an 11-month investigation involving rumors, city bureaucracy, environmental disturbance, and a government coverup. Alongside producer Sari Soffer Sukanek, Alex traces what happened to the birds—and exposes the city's efforts to hide the truth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Disappearance at Avondale Park: A Local Mystery (03:15–09:39)

• The Listener's Query: John, a longtime Birmingham resident, recalls how the park, famed for its ducks, suddenly lost all its waterfowl in summer 2022.
• Rumors Begin: Speculation abounds—were they killed, moved, or did they simply migrate? Theories, from humane relocation to “duck assassination” for the World Games, dominate local gossip and Reddit.
• The Stakes: For locals, the ducks were more than scenery—they were a cherished part of Birmingham's social life and childhood memories.

"I don't know anything about ducks. So I'm like, did they migrate? And they're like, no. The city removed them for the World Games."
— John, 04:57

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2. World Games and Rising Suspicions (05:10–09:39)

• Events Collide: The 2022 World Games took place at Avondale Park. Clean-ups and city “beautification” efforts for international visitors included the park pond—coinciding with the birds' disappearance.
• Community Reaction: As city preparations ramped up, so did rumors, and skepticism toward the city’s explanations.

"If my mom has heard this [rumor], then clearly everybody in town thinks this."
— John, 07:49

• Alex Sets Out: Alex commits to uncovering the truth, recognizing the city’s reluctance to discuss the matter openly.

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3. Expert Opinions & City Stonewalling (10:28–18:30)

• Reporter Joe Goodman’s Take:
  Joe Goodman, AL.com columnist, recalls hearing from city officials that the ducks were "relocated," but he doubted the euphemism.

"They relocated them across the Rainbow Bridge, like, I don't know."
— Joe Goodman, 11:48

• Parks Department Response:
  Sari gets ambiguous explanations: the ducks "relocated on their own," supposedly due to pond cleaning.
  Further investigation reveals the pond was dredged and drained pre-Games.

"I'm sorry, that does not pass the snail test for me."
— Alex, 14:40

• Wildlife Center Expertise:
  Chris Sykes (Alabama Wildlife Center) explains numerous ducks would have been unable to leave—too tame, too fat, or physically impaired due to repeated human feeding ("angel wing").

"They're city geese and duck... they've kind of lost that ability to, you know, migrate on and jump around from pond to pond just because they're just... city geese."
— Chris Sykes, 16:52

Chris surmises culling as the only plausible explanation, citing similar past incidents.

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4. City Documents: Obfuscation & Denials (18:30–23:19)

• Public Records Requests:
  Hyperfixed files a comprehensive request with the City of Birmingham for any records about the ducks’ fate or pond alterations (permits, emails, receipts, etc.).
• City Response:
  The city denies possessing any such records, despite evidence to the contrary about the pond drainage.

"That was the moment we realized that they had definitely done something to the ducks. We just couldn't prove it, and we didn't know if we would ever be able to."
— Alex, 21:46

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5. Breakthrough: Help from the Community (24:35–27:58)

• Creative "Revenge Plot":
  In frustration, the team considers buying a memorial bench but is rebuffed. Instead, they are allowed to post on Friends of Avondale Park's Facebook group.
• New Lead:
  Community member Skip Brock remembers a past Facebook post stating the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service removed the birds—introducing new agencies to contact for information.

"The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service came, and they removed them."
— Skip Brock, 26:34

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6. Crucial Evidence: FOIA Yields the Truth (27:58–32:54)

• Federal Paper Trail:
  FOIA requests to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) yield a nearly 70-page trove of documents confirming the ducks' fate.
• The Findings:
  • On June 14, 2022, APHIS conducted an overnight roundup and euthanization of geese and ducks from Avondale Park (and three other city locations), with bodies disposed at a wildlife management area.
  • It was done explicitly for the World Games (“Our goal is to have this project completed in advance of the World Games” – APHIS email).
  • Documents show the Parks Department orchestrated the project; Friends of Avondale Park were listed as a "cooperator," meaning they possibly paid for or ordered the culling.
  • Despite the paper trail, city officials had claimed, even when confronted with evidence, that the ducks were merely "removed" and no culling took place.

"The headline here is that the ducks were definitely euthanized. On the night of June 14, 2022, APHIS dispatched a team to Birmingham... including Avondale Park."
— Sari Soffer Sukanek, 29:21

"In one email, actually, it’s very explicitly stated. Our goal is to have this project completed in advance of the World Games."
— Sari Soffer Sukanek, 30:11

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7. Aftermath: Bureaucracy, Obfuscation, and Reflection (32:54–33:19)

• Obvious Lies, No Accountability:
  City's attempts to maintain a false narrative, even when faced with evidence.
• Unanswered Questions:
  Who precisely ordered and paid for the project? Why such secrecy for an act most people in Birmingham suspected all along?
• Alex’s Reflection:
  The podcast ultimately exposes not just the culling, but a local government's determined obfuscation—a lesson in how small-seeming mysteries can illuminate larger problems of transparency and institutional trust.

"The thing that feels so interesting here, at least to me, is how hard the city worked to hide something that everyone knew. And now everyone knows that they did that, too."
— Alex, 33:19

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On local skepticism and a myth's power:
  "If my mom has heard this [rumor], then clearly everybody in town thinks this." (John, 07:49)

• On city explanations:
  "They relocated them across the Rainbow Bridge, like, I don't know." (Joe Goodman, 11:48)

• On wildlife realities:
  "They're city geese and duck...they’ve kind of lost that ability to, you know, migrate on and jump around from pond to pond..." (Chris Sykes, 16:52)

• Sari stakes the facts, after months of digging:
  "The headline here is that the ducks were definitely euthanized...our goal is to have this project completed in advance of the World Games." (Sari, 29:21 & 30:11)

• Alex identifies the bigger picture:
  "The thing that feels so interesting here, at least to me, is how hard the city worked to hide something that everyone knew." (Alex, 33:19)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:15–09:39 — Introduction to the mystery and local context
• 10:28–12:58 — Joe Goodman’s first-hand reporting and suspicions
• 13:53–18:30 — Attempts to get city records, wildlife expert’s input
• 18:30–23:19 — FOIA requests, city stonewalling, suspicion deepens
• 24:35–27:58 — Breakthrough from a community Facebook post
• 27:58–32:54 — FOIA results and documentary evidence of the culling
• 33:19–End — Alex’s reflections on transparency, accountability, and the city’s persistent obfuscation

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Summary in Brief

Cry Fowl is a deeply engaging investigation that transforms a small-town mystery about missing ducks into a sharp exposé of municipal secrecy. Alex Goldman and team persist through rumor, evasion, and bureaucratic runaround, ultimately obtaining proof through federal records that the birds of Avondale Park were euthanized by APHIS on city orders ahead of the 2022 World Games—while city officials, astonishingly, denied the truth at every turn. This episode vividly illustrates how a community’s truths, even well-known ones, are sometimes the hardest for institutions to honestly acknowledge.

Transcript

[A]

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[C]

I don't know if it's always had ducks, but if somebody were to come up to me and be like, hey, do you know the park with the ducks? I'd be like, yeah, Avondale Park. It's kind of known for that.

[B]

This is John. He lives in Birmingham, Alabama. Spent most of his life there. And this park he's talking about is the epicenter of today's question. Avondale park is one of the oldest and largest public spaces in the city of Birmingham. It sits on more than 35 acres of hilly, wooded land. And in all that space, you can find a little something for everyone.

[C]

Yeah, I found myself there a lot growing up. I mean, when I was a kid, I was there skating or whatever, and it's just one of those places you wind up a lot when you're growing up in Birmingham.

[B]

The park has an amphitheater and a baseball diamond and a natural spring that flows down the hillside and into a pond. But one of the park's most popular attractions, if not the most popular attraction, has always been the ducks.

[C]

They were just a nice thing, and everybody was just, like, happy to see them. I know my niece would go to feed them, and there's just a beautiful and happy thing to bring a little kid to go feed ducks, you know?

[B]

But then one day in the summer of 2022, all the Ducks disappeared. And it wasn't just the ducks. It was the geese and the goslings and all the water birds living around the pond in Avondale Park. They just vanished without explanation. And in the wake of that absence, rumors started to fly about what might have happened to them and why. The first time John heard about it was when he was hanging out with some friends.

[C]

They were just like, hey, have you heard? The ducks are gone. And I'm like, oh. And I don't know anything about ducks. So I'm like, did they migrate? And they're like, no. The city removed them for the World Games.

[B]

Okay, help me out here. What are the World Games?

[C]

They're basically just the bargain bin Olympics.

[B]

I don't know so John isn't totally wrong. The World Games are an international sporting event made up of competitions that didn't quite make it into the Olympics. Think bowling, flag football, softball. But also super niche things like skydiving and parkour. But in terms of athletes, the World Games are just as legit as the Olympics. In order to qualify, you have to win some sort of championship tournament or place at the very top of your sport. So in that sense, they're a pretty big deal. And they've been hosted by some pretty major cities like London and the Hague. So when it was announced that the 11th World Games was going to be held in Birmingham, Alabama, in 2022, it was all hands on deck.

[C]

For like a year before the World Games started. I was seeing signs everywhere that were like, birmingham, Alabama, home of the 2022 World Games. The mayor was talking about them like this was going to put us on the map. It was going to make us so much money. You know, in the lead up, roads were closing down and event spaces were being built up. These insulting and depressing homeless shelters were built to relocate the unhoused away from event spaces. People were really pissed off about that. And in the middle of all that, I'm hearing that the ducks and the geese just disappeared overnight.

[B]

Now, the reason these two things felt connected, and by that, I mean the World Games and the missing ducks comes back to Avondale park because one of the events, the archery competition, was set to take place there.

[C]

The Birmingham subreddit has a post about it, and there's people talking about how the city didn't want the duck poop or something.

[B]

And once that idea hit the Internet that the city might have wanted the park cleaned up ahead of the archery event there, the rumor mill started whirling. People weren't just speculating as to why the ducks were gone, they were coming up with theories on how. And pretty quickly, one explanation rose above the rest, that the ducks had been rounded up and killed.

[C]

Again, all of it just doesn't add up to me. And. And yet we have this friend who is positive, positive that the ducks were killed. And I just. I don't know what to say to that. And the ducks definitely disappeared and they have not been back.

[B]

So have you talked this over with anyone other than this person who believes it? Like, is it. Is it basically common wisdom that the ducks were assassinated?

[C]

I mean, I visited with my mom and my sister and I brought this up to them, like, just a couple weeks ago, and they were like, yeah, we heard that. We heard that maybe they Were killed. And I was like, everybody has heard this. If my mom has heard this, then clearly everybody in town thinks this.

[B]

That's really nuts.

[C]

I know it's crazy. I mean, again, maybe there's a reasonable explanation for this, or maybe, who knows? I'm just skeptical of somebody who's so positive that they know that it's definitely they were killed. Ah, just citation needed.

[D]

That's.

[C]

That's all I'm saying. Just who says?

[B]

Okay, so you are a duck truther. You are not convinced that this is necessarily a culling by the city. Do you have an alternate theory?

[C]

Well, I guess I don't have an alternate theory, no. I mean, there's a lot of disappointing realities that you learn about as an adult, and I fully accept that this may be one of them that, like, cities do this. Municipalities just ace some ducks sometimes. But, like, I just don't want the ducks to be dead. It's just so dark. Like, I mean, they were great. I mean, who doesn't love ducks in a park? I mean, if I knew that they didn't die, I'd be like, thank goodness. I don't necessarily need them to be back where they were, but an explanation would be nice. And of course, I'm sure the city of Birmingham, no matter what they did, they don't want to take credit for this.

[B]

Yeah, well, we got our work cut out for us, but we will be inquiring with the city in short order.

[C]

Yeah, I'm so excited to see what you find out.

[B]

Thanks so much.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Take care.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

Bye. All right, so John wants to know what happened to the ducks. And as far as we can tell, there are really only three possibilities. They were killed, moved, or migrated. Now, a spontaneous migration seems unlikely because it was summertime, and I don't know, seemed like the ducks had a pretty nice life there. But obviously, I don't know anything about ducks, and I don't know much about what was going on in the city of Birmingham, Alabama, that summer. And since this show is not yet in a position to pay for us to travel, we started by looking for a reporter who could get us closer to that specific time and place. And sure enough, we were able to find one person who wrote about the mysterious disappearance of the birds that summer.

[E]

Oh, yeah, I remember the column about the geese because that was by far the most read thing on AL.com about the world games was my column about where the heck are all the ducks and the geese.

[B]

This is Joe Goodman. He's a sports columnist for AL.com, which is the largest digital news source in the state of Alabama. And the reason he ended up writing about the ducks actually had nothing to do with the ducks. What happened was that one day, about two weeks before the opening of the Games, Joe decided to visit the site of the archery competition. Now, in the Olympic version of this event, targets are placed at a set distance on a flat range. So usually Olympic archery takes place in a stadium. But in the World Games, there is a special event called field archery. And field archery is meant to emulate hunting. So instead of placing targets on a flat range, the targets for field archery are placed in more natural environments. Sometimes they're on a little hill. Sometimes they're on the opposite side of a tree. And in the case of the Birmingham World Games, the targets were placed on the opposite side of a pond, specifically the pond where the Avondale ducks live. So Joe's walking around the site, taking it all in, and he notices, hey, the Avondale ducks are missing. So he asks someone, what's up with that?

[E]

I was told that the city had relocated. Okay, the ducks and the geese and, you know, whatever euphemism you want to use. Okay, they relocated them across the Rainbow Bridge, like, I don't know.

[B]

All right, so just to be clear, this does not pass the smell test for you?

[E]

No, absolutely not.

[B]

Explanations?

[E]

They had a large presence of beautiful geese there. It wasn't just, like, these ugly ducks. Okay? It was a lot of beautiful geese that were there. But, I mean, what are you supposed to do? Clearly, you can't have a bunch of spectators and, you know, international archers throwing arrows around and all these birds. Like, they had to do something about the birds. And so, yeah, they've never come out and said it, all right, that they killed off the geese and the ducks, but I suspect very strongly that they were not, in fact, relocated to East Lake, which is another nearby lake, that they were just killed off.

[B]

So that they told you East Lake?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

In the published version of Joe's story, he raised the question about what happened to the ducks, but he told us that he never actually followed up on that question. And even though the article caused a stir in the community, it seems like nobody else followed up on it either. And maybe that's because just two weeks later, everyone turned their attention to the World Games. And when that was over, their attention turned to the fact that the World Games cost the city more money than it made. And then that controversy was replaced by some other controversy, which was replaced by some other controversy, just like it has been everywhere else. But now, three years after Joe first sounded the alarm, we made it our job to find out what happened to the ducks. So hyper fix producer Sari Soffer Sukanek reached out to the Birmingham parks department, and then about a week later, she asked me to join her in a zoom.

[F]

Okay, Alex. So, as you know, I called the parks and recreation department for the city of Birmingham, and I was able to get in touch with the PR manager, who was a super nice lady, very helpful. Anyway, I told her that we were looking into the disappearance of the ducks and that we'd heard that perhaps the city might have moved them. Now, this lady wasn't working with the parks department back in 2022, so she actually didn't know what happened with the ducks. But she told me she'd look into it and get back to me. And when she gets back to me, she says, hey, I spoke to the department's facilities manager, and they said that the ducks relocated on their own. Apparently, they told her that this is a natural occurrence and that ducks often relocate in search of more food and favorable nesting conditions.

[B]

I'm sorry, that does not pass the snail test for me.

[F]

Yeah, I thought so, too, because, like, the ducks have been at this park.

[B]

For decades, and, as John told us, they're getting hand fed by children.

[F]

Exactly. Like, unless the conditions at the park have suddenly changed, why would the ducks need to move? So I asked her directly, like, did the conditions at the park suddenly change? And she said yes.

[B]

What?

[F]

So you remember how John was saying that the city had this whole cleanup campaign in the lead up to the world Games? Well, one of the things they decided to clean was the pond at Avondale Park. Apparently the algae in the pond had gotten a little out of control. It was looking a bit gross and causing some other kinds of problems that she didn't get into. But the point is that in order to clean it up, she said they decided to drain the pond.

[B]

Shit.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

So the reason the ducks disappeared is because they, like, fucked with the environment in which they lived.

[F]

I think that might be what happened. But I'm not ready to say that definitively, because when I reached out to the company that handled the dredging, they're called Alabama Aquarium, they confirmed that they did this work, and they did it before the world Games. But they also said that they didn't really remember seeing any ducks at the park while they were working. And I'm sure that's more of a memory issue than anything, but I don't know, it just left me with some doubt. So I want to find some wildlife people for us to talk to, just to see if this narrative makes any sense to them.

[D]

It doesn't make sense to me.

[B]

This is Chris Sykes. He's the executive director of the Alabama wildlife Center, which is a nonprofit bird hospital located in Birmingham. And when we told him the story that the city told us about the ducks leaving of their own volition because the pond got dredged, he was like, yeah, that's definitely not the whole story. Because while he conceded that dredging the pond would definitely disrupt the lives of the ducks, the problem with this narrative about them leaving is that some of these ducks had physically lost the ability to do that.

[D]

You have a lot of people that will be feeding these ducks and geese, so oftentimes they're fat, they're overweight, they're not healthy, they have disabilities that are forming. They don't really have a need to fly or migrate, because, hey, that's where they live. And so they've kind of lost that ability to, you know, migrate on and jump around from pond to pond just because they're just. They're city geese, city geese and duck.

[B]

And this is not just a matter of being too fat to fly. Apparently, when you feed bread to ducks, which, as you know, is just one of those things people love to do at the park, all the carbs and sugars in the bread can cause a visible distortion in their wings. Their feathers can start to splay outwards, causing a condition called angel wing, which really affects their ability to fly. So, yeah, according to Chris, some of these ducks might have been able to fly away, but certainly not all of them. And since we know that all the ducks disappeared from the park, there's really only two other explanations for what happened. And based on Chris's own past experiences, he's pretty sure they weren't moved.

[D]

It only leaves the logical explanation that these birds were rounded up and culled and euthanized. And it's happened time and time again. There was an incident in 2019 in Pike Road, Alabama, that essentially the same thing happened. There was overpopulation, and they were pooping on the grounds, and there were concerns of health and safety, and they euthanized 150 geese, essentially overnight.

[B]

Now, to do that kind of work, the city would have to get permits. And while these permits aren't hard to get, apparently excessive pooping actually does meet the criteria for culling. These permits are a matter of public record, which means that if the city killed the ducks at Avondale park, honestly, if they even just moved them. We should be able to find documentation of it. And the way to do that is by submitting a public records request to the City of Birmingham. Now, everyone on this show, both for Hyper Fixed and in our lives before it, have all requested our fair share of government documents. But every state's a little bit different. And depending on what you're asking for, the way you ask for it can make a really big difference. Because even though states are required to provide you with certain types of information, they don't always have to make it easy. And when the information you're requesting is sensitive information, I can understand why they might actually try to make the process hard. So before we wrote this request, we teamed up with a Freedom of Information act expert and she gave us some really great tips, which our premium members will be able to hear on the next bonus episode. For now, though, I just want to tell you what we sent the city. Okay, here we go. In our request to the City of Birmingham, we asked for any information related to the ducks and geese in Avondale Park. We asked for emails, both internal and external, discussing the movement, relocation, or culling of the ducks and geese. We asked for any permits that may have been submitted, approved or denied. We also asked for information related to the draining of the pond. And finally, to make sure that we didn't end up drowning in documents, we asked that all records be contained to the two year period leading up to the World Games, 2020-2022. Our request was submitted in March of 2025, and then six months later, we got a response from the City of Birmingham. In their official response, which was written on the city's official stationery, they told us the records we requested did not exist, and for that reason, our request had been denied. Now, obviously this didn't make any sense to us because even if the city never touched the ducts, we knew they drained the pond. They told us they had, and we confirmed it with the contractors, which meant there had to be some records somewhere, even if they were just receipts for the work that was done. But when we followed up with the city asking for clarification, they doubled down on their original response. They said there were no records and they would not agree to discuss it in an interview. And I think that was the moment we realized that they had definitely done something to the ducks. We just couldn't prove it and we didn't know if we would ever be able to. After the break, we prove it. This episode of Hyperfixed is brought to you by gusto. Well, Howdy, partner. My name is Gus. Old Gusto as they call me on the range.

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[F]

That read, in honor of the ducks of Avondale park, gone but not forgotten.

[B]

Again, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but at the time, we thought it was a great idea, and we very sincerely took steps toward making it a reality. We contacted the Birmingham Parks Department and got ourselves on the agenda to present the plan at the next meeting of the parks committee. But on the day we were scheduled to present, we were suddenly removed from the agenda. And of course, we were like, what the fuck just happened? And that's when we were contacted by the president of a local nonprofit called the Friends of Avondale Park. Friends of Avondale park is comprised of volunteers, and it uses donations for maintenance and restoration projects within the park. And the president made it clear to us that he did not want our silly bench in his beautiful park. But he was very sweet about it. And as a kind of consolation prize, he offered to post a message for from us on the Facebook page for the Friends of Avondale Park. So Sari wrote a post explaining we were looking for any factual information that could help us get to the bottom of this mystery. And that's how we ended up connecting with this guy.

[D]

My name's Skip Brock.

[E]

I'm from Birmingham, Alabama. I've lived right down the street from Avondale park for, I think, six years. And, yeah, that's. That's about my only qualifications regarding Avondale Park.

[B]

Actually, Skip has one more qualification that made him extremely useful to us. He is super tapped into the Facebook page for the Friends of Avondale park, and he has been for years, which is why when he saw our post asking for information about the missing ducks, a light bulb went off in his head. You see, back in 2022, when the Ducks first disappeared, people were pissed. Everyone assumed that the ducks had been killed or relocated. But regardless of what happened, people just wanted answers, and nobody was giving them. And things were getting tense.

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At some point, I think it's the president of the board of the park posted on Facebook and said, you know, here's what happened to the ducks and the geese. The U.S. fish and Wildlife Service came, and they removed them.

[B]

I want to quickly clarify that the president who wrote this. This post is not the same president we talked to about the bench. Apparently, Friends of Avondale park has new officers come in about every three years. And this particular President was in her position for only about 11 months. So when we contacted her for comment about how she knew that US Fish and Wildlife handled the removal, she said she didn't remember. But at that point, it didn't matter because suddenly a new government agency had entered the chat, which meant that there was a new place for us to send our records requests. In October of 2025, we decided to send out two separate FOIA requests. The first went to the U.S. fish and Wildlife Service, and the second went to an agency that's called the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, or aphis. And the reason we sent the second request is because we had been told that APHIS often gets contracted by other agencies to carry out their callings. Like, remember that 2019 culling that Chris mentioned in our interview with him?

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There was overpopulation, and they were pooping on the grounds, and there was concerns of health and safety, and they euthanized 150 geese, essentially overnight.

[B]

Avis was the agency that carried out that culling. And three months after we submitted our FOIA request, we got an answer from aphis.

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Hey, Alex, you recording?

[B]

Um, just about. Give me just a second and I'm rolling. If you're a regular listener to the show, you know that this is usually the point where we reach back out to the person who submitted the question and tell them what we found. But it had been so long since we first spoke to John that we couldn't reach him anymore. So what you're hearing now is the moment that I first heard what happened. Here's Sari again.

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Okay. So, as you know, I got a response from APHIS. It's nearly 70 pages long, and overall, I feel like it paints a pretty clear picture of what happened to the ducks. But there were also some pieces that I didn't totally understand. Just, like, different terms of the trade, I guess, and different kinds of documents. So before I called you, I got on the phone with an environmental lawyer at the University of Denver Law School, and he talked me through the documents and helped me sort of tie up loose ends. And, yeah, I guess. Do you want me to just start from the top?

[B]

Yeah, go for it.

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Okay. The headline here is that the ducks were definitely euthanized. On the night of June 14, 2022, APHIS dispatched a team to Birmingham, Alabama. They landed at the airport at 8:30pm and then worked their way around the city, rounding up geese and ducks at four different locations, including Avondale Park. And when they were finished, it appears that their bodies were discarded at a place called Oak wma, which I've been told is a wildlife management area. Now, I don't think anyone's going to want to hear exactly how they were killed, so I'm just going to leave that part out. But apropos John's question about whether or not they were killed for the World Games, the answer is yes, without a doubt, in one email. Actually, it's very explicitly stated. Our goal is to have this project completed in advance of the Worlds Games.

[B]

Okay, but who initiated this project? Was it the city? Was it aphis? Like, what's going on here?

[F]

Honestly, I don't know. I can tell you that the Parks Department definitely knew about it. And in the emails I have here, they appear to be orchestrating the entire thing. So the idea that they couldn't fulfill our records request because they didn't have any records, that's now provably false. But there's also something else I found in the records that gave me some pause, which is that In January of 2022, APHIS sent an email to someone whose address has been completely redacted, which is unusual because for most of all the other correspondence that I have here, I can see that the domain is at least to or from a government agency, but this one is totally blacked out. And the subject of the email is Friends of Avondale Park. The message discusses some contract details for the culling project, and in it, APHIS identifies the Friends of Avondale park as a cooperator.

[B]

But what does it mean to be a cooperator?

[F]

Exactly. So the lawyer I spoke to told me that a cooperator is essentially the person or entity that orders the job and pays for it. So I reached back out to the previous president of the friends group, the one that posted that Facebook message about the ducks and geese being removed by U.S. fish and Wild. And I said to her, look, we know that's not what happened. And now we have reason to suspect that the Friends of Avondale park know that, too. And she replied back, insisting that she knew nothing about the APHIS project, that she wasn't even president when this email was sent. So maybe we should reach out to the guy who was president before her. So I got in touch with that guy, and his official comment was no comment.

[B]

Holy shit.

[F]

But I'm still not totally sure who paid for this, because in the final work initiation document, the cooperator listed is a member of the City Parks and Rec Department. So, yeah, kind of unclear who asked for or paid for the culling in the end. But the big takeaways here are One, the ducks were euthanized. Two, it was definitely connected to the World Games. And three, the Parks Department was definitely looped into the project, and it appears the Friends of Avondale park were, too. So, yeah, that's what I was able to glean from the documents. But again, we still really don't know who initiated this and why this even needed to happen, because I don't know, just saying that it happened for the World Games doesn't feel like enough of a justification.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like I still have so many questions. I'm going to try and call some people and see if we can get a real explanation for this. Thanks so much, Sari.

[F]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

I am recording this outro hours before this episode gets released. And the reason I'm doing this now and not, you know, days ago when everything else got recorded is because I wanted to give everyone involved an opportunity to comment. But not only have they refused to comment, they have been bafflingly combative about it. When I called the former president of the Friends of Avondale park, he told me emphatically that they were not involved before saying that he couldn't remember. And then he said he had no comment. And then he made a statement that I took as a vague threat of a lawsuit. As for the city, when I called the Parks Department yesterday, they doubled down on the lie that the birds hadn't been killed. And when I showed them documents proving that the birds had been killed and that the Parks Department was involved, they finally acknowledged that the ducks had been, quote, unquote, removed from, but refused to explain why this happened or who paid for it or why they told us there were no documents related to this culling, when clearly there were. I am looking at them right now, and at this point I can only guess at why they might still be trying to hide stuff. But also, I'm not sure it really matters anymore. Because it turns out the thing that was so interesting about this question wasn't the answer to it. I mean, everyone in town already believed that the ducks had been killed. The thing that feels so interesting here, at least to me, is how hard the city worked to hide something that everyone knew. And now everyone knows that they did that, too. Hyperfixed is produced and edited by Emma Cortland, Amor Yates and Serious Offers Tokenic. It was engineered by Tony Williams. The music is by the mysterious Breakmaster Cylinder. And me, special thanks this week to Beth Borden, Elizabeth Lasseter, Michael Schneiderman from the Friends of Avondale Park, Jay Touchton from the University of Denver, and Keeva, Williams Wilson and Tanya Espinosa at aphis. You can get bonus episodes, access to our discord and much more by becoming a premium hyperfix [e-mail] join we also have [e-mail] and premium members get 15% off of everything, so definitely go get stuff. It supports the show. It'll make you look super cool. Honestly, can you really afford not to? Hyperfixed is a proud member of Radiotopia from prx, a network of independent, creator owned, listener supported podcasts. Discover audio with [e-mail] fm thanks for listening. Radiotopia.

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