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115: Detoxification, Immune Therapies, and Environmental Toxins in Rising Young Adult Cancer | Dr. Tony Jimenez
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I encourage all of you, no matter if you think that, you know, everything is great in your life. You had a happy childhood. You know, your kids love you, your parents loved you, your spouse loves you. We're humans and we live in this world. And so we all have a backpack of stuff, right? And so we need to get the stuff out of the backpack. And then the healing happens in not a linear fashion, but it happens in a quantum fashion, like leaps and bounds of healing.
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You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now, here's your host stage four cancer thriver, Jim Mann.
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Dr. Tony from Hope 4 Cancer. So good to have you along with us. I believe this is the third time you've been on our episode, so you did something good last two times.
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Thank you so much, Tim. It's my, my gift to be on the Healing Strong platform because it's a very important group of people that are helping and giving hope to many. So we had a small prayer before we went on live and Jim prayed about hope and about what's happening and how it's needed now in the world of cancer and in the Lancet, which is a peer review, very high level journal. The Lancet just published this year in 2024 recently, and it's titled Cancer is on the Rise in Young Adults More than ever. So why more than ever? Right. We've been in this quest to find better options in cancer besides chemotherapy, radiation and surgery and immunotherapy. And they talk about in this publication that between 1990 and 2019, the cases of cancer young people across the world increase by 79%.
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Wow.
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And that's rose. The death rate rose by 28%. This is just unheard of. And where is all this research going? 17 cancers that are on the rise for young adults. And you name them, colorectal cancer, gallbladder, kidney, pancreas, stomach leukemia, breast cancer. You know, the list goes on and on. And this is exactly Jim and everyone at Hilly Strong, what we are seeing now at Hope, 4 Cancer, younger patients with cancer. Then we have all those statistics, younger patients with cancer, more aggressive cancers, and patients that were in remission, coming out of remission. And so there's something obviously contributing to this. And there are many thoughts, of course, Jim, on this, whether it's related to the COVID pandemic environmental pollution toxicities, you know, the water quality and so forth. And it's all of it. It's all of it that is, that is participating in these, in these findings.
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Yeah, I would imagine, you know, there's so many more toxins that are out there, obviously contributing to that. And of course the cell phone. I mean, I'm sure there's a rise in brain cancer because of the cell phone. When you put that up against your head. Yeah. We don't really know, you know, down the road how that will affect things because you know, that's still fairly new thing. And then the AirPods that so many people have, they live. One of my kids lives with those in his ears. I keep telling him, I said, you don't need to do that. Get something with wires. I finally convinced him to, you know, at least just put the headphones with wires on them. I said it's not as cool looking but you know, it'll be very cool down the road. Much more than the other ones.
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Yeah, definitely. EMF toxicity. Toxicity is a big player here. And especially as you mentioned, in young children and young adults when their brain is still developing, they're more susceptible to mutations and things going wrong. So definitely what we found, and others have confirmed this in studies, is that the three main toxicities now, number one is aluminum, number two is glyphosate, and that's the Roundup Monsanto. And then number three is exactly what you're talking about, Jim, is emf, electromagnetic field radiation. So if we start off with detoxing and eliminating those three major toxicities that we're exposed to, it will give us a head start. Right? And going back to this Lancet publication, it says suspected causes. This is a peer review conventional journal saying suspected causes of this, higher incidence of cancer in young adults, increased rates of obesity, dietary habits. And here it is, environmental toxins, chemicals that were introduced in the 50s and 60s. And then the fourth one that they mentioned is early life exposures to cancer causing substances. Right. Even from the mom to the child. So the good thing is that these are things that we can be proactive about and we should live a life of detoxification is what I always say. We should detox every day. And I'm not the best example, but I do my best. And every morning I start off with a prayer and I thank the Lord for another day. And then one of the first things I do in the morning is to do a coffee enema. Because the liver is the biggest, you know, organ of detoxification. After the skin. So it is said that if the liver is challenged, the whole body is challenged. Right. So I like to start off with a coffee enema. I add filigit. Filigit is a resin that comes from the Himalayas, the high mountain altitude area. And it's basically humic acid and folic acid. And this is a binder also to help get rid of toxins. And for me, it even gives me energy, right. I feel better, cognitive health and feel like, wow, now let's go, let's go. Whatever hits me this day, you know, I'm in a better situation to, to take it straight on.
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Right now I'm drinking my dandelion root tea that helped me detox.
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Amen to that. I'll cheer you on that because I have some tea here as well.
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Look at us, we're so healthy now. But I do have a question, like obviously in this world it's going to be worse and worse. The, the emfs. I mean, it's hard to avoid that because I mean, towers are going up everywhere and what kind of prevention or obviously we can't totally get away from it, but what can we do to kind of get around that?
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Yeah, there's some things we can definitely do and they don't cost as much. And it just costs us to be proactive and make those decisions. And as you said, teaching our children right simple things that are very powerful, like removing or distancing ourselves from radiation. EMF5G wi fi as much as possible. So one thing is shut off your WI fi at night. You're not going to be checking your emails when you're asleep, so you don't need WI fi. Shut that off. Get a grounding sheet or grounding pillowcase and ground yourself. Don't charge your cell phone on your night table. That cell phone should be at least 10, 15ft away from your bed, preferably more. Put it in the bathroom, put it in your office or somewhere away in the kitchen from your bedroom and get a good night's sleep. Because from 10pm to 2am is when the body restores, regenerates, repairs and heals. And so prepare yourself for a good night's sleep. And that has to do a lot with light exposure and dirty electricity and all this. The other thing is going to nature, right? Being in nature, being outdoor as much as possible and, and of course, nutrition. The closer we are to the garden, God's creation, the healthier it is. There's a lot of foods that are detoxing in nature. Juicing is a big Deal. Right. Because juicing is the best way to detox the blood, for example. And so a lot that we could do with nutrition, with preventing close exposures to these electromagnetic fields and also detoxing, doing liver gallbladder cleanses every few months, doing a parasite cleanse. Because when there's an environment in the body that favors cancer, you first have emf, you have heavy metal, you have parasites. And so we need to not create that favorable environment for cancer to thrive or to develop in the first place. So, yeah, a lot of things we could do hydration, of course. Right, Jim, So important, half of your body weight in ounces tends to be the rule of thumb for hydration. Make it clean, filtered water. If you want to go a bit, you know, higher with that, then you. Hydrogen water is what I recommend because the most abundant element in the universe and every biochemical reaction in the body requires hydrogen. And at the cell level, it has been shown that hydrogen stores can be a bit low or depleted. So hydrogen water is another key component for health and detoxing and also decreasing the effects of this electromagnetic field radiation.
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Okay, and I was mentioning to you before, before we started recording that I don't know how many episodes we've done 110, 120 somewhere around there. But I hear, of course, I hear about Chris work and crispy cancer and his square one. And then I always hear about Hope for cancer, which, in case, you know, maybe someone's listening to this episode as the first one, we are talking to Dr. Tony, who is the founder and chief medical officer at the Hope for Cancer treatment centers, which are in Mexico. There's two locations still, right?
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Yes, yes. One in Tijuana, Mexico, south of San Diego, California, that we opened in the year 2000. And then the Cancun center we opened in the year 2015. So as you can see, we've been around for a long time. I personally have over 30 years in the integrative cancer field.
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Is there ever a time that you should use chemo or is that, I mean, obviously there's such a bigger world to healing, but is there ever a time to use chemo?
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The answer is yes, we are. One of my seven key principles that form the foundation of our therapy at Hope4Cancer. The first one is non toxic cancer therapy. But that being said, Jim, and everyone listening is sometimes we have to give what we call ipt, insulin potentiation therapy, which is lower dose chemotherapy, very effective, much less harsh on the body. Patients are not lying around in bed sick and vomiting and diarrhea and so forth. And because they come with so much tumor burden, just a lot of cancer. And so you, especially those patients that have not received chemo before, they may have, and oftentimes have a very good response. Not, Jim, as means to an end, but as part to debulk to decrease tumor load. While we're following all the seven key principles, right, so there is time when chemo is needed. We prefer to do it in a low dose fashion. There is time when radiation is needed. We had a patient recently that had metastasis from a breast cancer to her lower back, and the pain was excruciating. So what is better? To put her on high pain medication that may include narcotics like morphine and opioids, or to give her five to seven spot radiation sessions to that affected back area? Well, obviously the radiation which is targeted, we call it spot radiation, five to seven session. And guess what? Her pain was 95% better. And she didn't need to take any morphine, which is, which suppresses immune system and suppresses healing. So there are times, Jim, when radiation has also an indication and of course, surgery, the third part of all this, right, if someone has an occlusion or an obstruction, we need to remove that obstruction surgically. Oftentimes, patients that have liver metastasis also have bile duct obstruction. So in that case, our surgeon places a stent, which is a little catheter to open up that compress or collapse bile duct. And so you put that stent in a minimally invasive procedure, and then the bile starts to flow, the yellowness goes away, the itching goes away, and then, you know, you have time to continue with, with the treatment plan. So it's truly how and when using our wisdom and our experience and the patient's feedback when to utilize these toxic therapies.
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Of course, the problem is that so much of the medical community, that's all they're training. So it's like, hey, you got cancer, let's bring out the chemo radiation. And if that, you know, if they can survive that, then they don't change anything else. And of course, usually eventually they don't survive it because the cancer is not gone, it comes back. So the good thing about hope for cancer, first of all, the good thing is the first word in there is hope. Because we all need the hope. If we don't have hope, you know, your body is just, you know, chances of it recovering is not that good. If your mentality is, I have no hope. But when you come to your place and you do have and I know we've touched on several of them already, but the seven key principles of cancer therapy. Well, why don't we just touch on each one of those briefly?
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Well, I'll start with what I consider the most. They're all key principles. Right. But I, but one of them always stands out. And also because it's oftentimes not addressed in the best of cancer hospitals in the world, and I'm talking about even integrative alternative cancer hospitals. For sure it's not addressed in the conventional hospital setting, but that's the emotional spiritual health. And this is so, so important. As a matter of fact, my second book that will be published and released in March of 2025, just a short few months away, is called Emotions and Cancer. And the reason I'm writing that as my second book is because I have seen in my 30 plus years of experience in oncology that unless we really go to the root causes from an emotional spiritual perspective, it's going to be tough for the physical body to heal. And I believe we heal from the spiritual, emotional, mental and then the physical body. And so that is a very, very key principle. And I encourage all of you, no matter if you think that, you know, everything is great in your life, you had a happy childhood, you know, your kids love you, your parents loved you, your spouse loves you, neighbors, and we live in this world. And so we all have a backpack of stuff, right? And so we need to get the stuff out of the backpack. And then the healing happens in not a linear fashion, but it happens in a quantum fashion, like leaps and bounds of healing. So I encourage all the listeners and viewers to, to focus on that emotional spiritual health and recovery and releasing these conflicts and traumas. We call it the best program, B E S T. And that stands for behavioral, emotional and spiritual transformation. And that's really what it is. Because when you do the releasing and you do this work and the letting go transformation happens at many levels, including the physical body. So if I go on with the other ones I mentioned, non toxic cancer therapies, the emotional, spiritual. The other one is the, the microbiome. And oftentimes we think about the gut, right? But the gut brain connection, but the microbiome of the whole body, the, the microbiome of our skin, the dental oral microbiome, that's a big one because we cannot heal when we have toxicity in our mouth and root canals and metal fillings and so forth. The other toxicity that we need to, often times, you know, it's not address is emotional toxicity. I often Oftentimes says, say that a negative thought can kill you faster than a bad germ. So let's turn those negative thoughts to positive thoughts to optimism. It doesn't matter what your oncologist told you with respect to, oh, you, you know, you have six months to live at best. If you do this chemo and so forth, you know, you could have two years to five years. Well, who can say that, right? And you mentioned the word hope several times, Jim, and no one can take your hope away but yourself, right? Don't let anyone in. Hope is a gift that we receive from our creator. And so God has given us that hope. And so don't allow anyone to take that hope away from you. So that's, that's very important. Obviously the, the microbiome. And then the next key principle is detoxification. I mentioned that we need to live a life of detoxification. And the next key principle is nutrition. And that's often one that, you know, it's a lot of confusion. That will be a whole show on nutrition. Right. But you mentioned Chris work in his square one. A lot to be said about his information there with nutrition. I want to leave you with one thought, however, Chris and I agree that we should be plant based, right. And that's. We call it the garden food plan at Hope for Cancer. The closer we are to the garden, the better it is. But make sure your nutrition is personalized for you, right? So what, work for Chris or work for Dr. Tony or someone else? That doesn't mean that's exactly your nutrition plan. Broccoli may not be good for you, Jim, Even though there's 20 studies or 30 studies on broccoli and its benefit, but it might not be good for you. So the key point here is make nutrition personalize and individualize for yourself. And then the next key principle is oxygenation. And oftentimes we are low, shallow breathers. We take a deep breath and it feels uncomfortable. So anything that you could do with oxygenation is key to health and recovery and healing. And just get out 10 minutes a day. Don't give me a marathon every week. Just give me 10, 15 minutes a day or every other day. Do some flexibility. Do some lightweight, resistant workouts and the aerobic with walking and then stretching, flexibility. If you could do those three things and there's no reason you can, this is a great investment for your health. The amount of muscle mass that one has is directly proportional to our lifespan, meaning the greater muscle mass. And I'm not talking about being like Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm just talking about fat versus muscle mass, right? So the more muscle mass we have, the healthier we will live. And the longer we will live, the better cognitive health we would have. Meaning the brain will work better, Right. So oxygenation is key. And then the last one that I want to talk about is the immune. We call it immunomodulation. That's key principle number seven. And to that aspect I just want to mention briefly that at Hope for Cancer we just rolled out our next bestest. I don't know bestest is the word. But our next investors bioimmunotherapy. This is a biological non toxic immunotherapy that is comprises of five substances or five different products all coming together to have tremendous benefits for both the quick acting immune system and the long term immune system. So these five products, four are oral, three are capsules, one is liquid and then the fit product is injectable. So it's done under the skin like an insulin shot. Twice a week. Twice a week. And we like that to be for about three months. But this is a very important biomino bioimmunotherapy that we just rolled out, took years of in the makings and a lot of work and research. We're calling it Jim and everyone Davida Da and then be the V as in Victor I D A And the reason I came up with that name is in, in Spanish or Latin Davida means to give life. And so this is giving life to the immune system. And the immune system is very complex. So we believe that with this Davida bioimmunotherapy which is non toxic, we're really upregulating the immune system at multiple many levels and it is safe, effective and non toxic with respect to the immune system. So we're really excited about the DaVita bioimmunotherapy as our latest offering in our efforts always to bring the best of the best to our patients.
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I don't know if you remember or not, but I went through immunotherapy for my stage four melanoma but it was Opdivo which how does that compare to something like that is, I mean obviously that's, I don't know, it's not obvious anything because I'm not good with the medical world. But is that more toxic because it's a, a chemical or, or what's the story there?
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Yeah, that's a good thought and question Jim. This is why we call these bioimmunotherapies versus the toxic immunotherapies that you Refer to like the opdivos, the jervoi, the keytruda and these conventional immunotherapies, they target, Jim, a specific receptor on the cancer cells. So when you had melanoma with the opdivo, it needed those melanoma cells, needed to have a specific receptor on the cell membrane so that the could go in there like a lock and key and affect the tumor. But if some of those melanoma cells, because they're never always the same, if they didn't have those same receptors, the opdiva was not going to do anything. Right. Because it's based on the receptors with any of those keytruda or devoid jervoi or other immunotherapies. When we talk about the vita, for example, being a biological immunotherapy, we're upregulating your own immune system, your God given immune system, independently of these receptors and thereby upregulating your immune system so that your immune system could attack the cancer and have a favorable response without toxic side effects. So think about it like this. How many children do you have, Jim, if I can ask?
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Four.
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Four. Okay. Same dad?
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Yep.
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Yes. Same mom. Are those four children the same? Are they. They look alike. Do they behave a lot? Do they think alike?
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I keep thinking they're adopted, but yeah, they're all different. Definitely.
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They're all different. So let's say a cancer originates in the breast and it metastasizes, let's say to the liver or to the lung or even within the breast. Breast. There's multiple tumors.
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Right.
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All those kids are not the same. Like your 4 kids are not the same that came from the same mom and dad. My six kids are not the same. And so the cancer cells are not the same. So when you give, to answer your question, when you give those opdivo and Jervoid and those immunotherapies, it might hit one of the kids because he or she has that receptor, but they're all different kids. So you were blessed that I don't know the full story, but abdivo helped you a lot. And of course I know there was many other things, but because of Devo is not going to cure any cancer. There was a combination of many other things.
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Yes. Yeah, it. I had like eight tumors. I think it was throughout my body. And. And they all shrunk, like within the first two months of this. And. And I. I had very few side effects. So I think I'm very fortunate because I know some people have some crazy side effects or some of Them. I know one. One friend. His tumors doubled. And that's not a good thing.
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So that's not a good thing. Yes, yes. Yes. So, yeah, we're blessed and. And we're happy for those results. But you said that they shrunk. What happened? Now I'm asking you questions. What happened after the tumor shrunk?
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Well, they. I've had a few scans past that, and, you know, there. There's a few of them where the tumors were. There's just a little mark on there. They said. They assume that's just a scar tissue.
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Okay.
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And in fact, coming up in a couple months, they're gonna. They want me to do an mri. Just. They go, we're gonna do one less scan. We're gonna do an mri, and then if it's the way we think it is, we'll just close the books on you. So I guess they're gonna put me to sleep or something.
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And you're. You should follow the seven key principles. You should continue drinking your dandelion tea. You should continue with the good nutrition, all the things you know. And I would. I would recommend or suggest to you, Jim, that you consider asking your doctor about a test called a signatera. Signatera. I'm not sure if they've done that yet. It's S, I, G, N, A, T, E, R, R, A signatora. It might have one R, but it's signatera. And this is to look for circulating tumor cells. These are the cells that left the tumors, and now they're circulating in the bloodstream. So the MRI might be negative, and, Lord willing, it is, and it will be negative. Nothing. No tumors found in the mri. But what if there are some circulating tumor cells that can be circulating for a year, two years, three years, five years, and then show up somewhere? So with the signa terror test, which is a test done in the US we could. They could check for any circulating tumor cells, and that will give you another data point, which will give you a peace of mind, Right. As to the risk of a recurrence or this thing being found somewhere at some point.
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Okay. Yeah, it's a. I'll definitely do that. I have a good doctor. He actually. He's. He's against using chemo. He doesn't have to. He's into, like, the latest immunotherapies. I mean, they're all developing, of course.
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Yeah.
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And he talks over my head, so I'm not sure sure what he's talking about. But he. He does know the. The importance of nutrition. And exercise and mindset. So, yeah, he's. He sees the big picture, so I'm kind of excited about that. But, yeah, definitely. Check that out.
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Yeah, that's awesome. And he was very wise. Obviously, he knows that melanoma does not respond to chemotherapy. Right. This is where immunotherapy is the first line of therapy. And a lot of work was done, even with viruses in melanoma, and that's a whole different story. But, yeah, melanoma has its peculiarities that chemo is not indicated.
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Okay. I feel like you need to send me a bill, but I won't give you my address. Well, Dr. Tony, what. What's coming down the road for you other than the book that's coming out in March?
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I want to say we are opening a, as of now, a wellness program. And so this is to be ahead of it, right. Where patients that are presumably healthy, they've had blood tests by their conventional doctors. They've had, you know, X rays and ultrasound, thyroid test, prostate checkbook. Let's. Let's be more proactive on wellness. So we're very happy. We have some great wellness diagnostic or assessment tools that go beyond blood testing, and there's many reasons for that. That's a long topic, but, yeah, good assessment. Sooner, quicker finding potential dysfunctions in the body before they present themselves as a tumor, for example. Right. It's so important. So really excited about the wellness program. I have participated myself in the wellness program, so I encourage the listeners, the viewers, to, you know, give yourself that. That gift, whether now in the rest of 2024, coming in 2025, to consider the Hope for Cancer wellness, medical wellness program.
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Okay. And all that information, of course, is the hopefor cancer dot com. That's the hope and the number four. Cancer dot com. Well, Dr. Tony, it's always a pleasure talking to you. You actually talk on my level, so I appreciate that.
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Well, you know, I say I'm a simple guy from a small village. I have to understand myself as well. So we're at the same page. Thank you.
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All right, well, thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
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Blessings to you, Jim, and to the Healing Strong family. We love you. And blessings.
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