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I put so many ingredients into one dish and then I don't have to worry about it the rest of the day. I don't have to eat a bunch of little things throughout the day. I just found a bunch of things that I could put in a bowl and if someone's going to go to the website and look at the recipes, scroll down. And I took the time. I'm pretty, I think I did it on all the recipes. There might be some that are missing, but I took the time to write the vitamin content, the mineral content, the amino acid content, which is very important. I'm getting into a protein discussion. But the amino acids that these foods contain and the then the anti cancer properties of each ingredient. So when you look at how many ingredients are in each dish and you look at all these vitamins, minerals, amino acids and anti cancer properties, I mean, it doesn't have a chance.
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You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now here's your host, stage four cancer thriver, Jim Mann.
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I love talking to somebody like Dan Cook because he's almost excited that he got a diagnosis because it's a problem that he can figure out how to fix. It was like sitting in a classroom. I learned a lot from Dan. I did have to grunt every once in a while. So you do know I'm there. But he has so much information to share. I didn't want to get in the way. So let's continue on with Dan. Part 2.
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The first thing I did after my surgery, I didn't go see a doctor. I had to recover from the surgery. It took about three to four weeks. And God sent another sign, if you want to call it, but put me in another direction. Because God knew I didn't want to go see a doctor. I didn't want to talk to the oncologist. I had seen one before my surgery and he didn't seem so bright and cheery. So I thought, you know, I am an optimist. I am happy. I do like happy people. I like to be around happy people. So I thought, well, I don't really want to go see him again. And I didn't want to talk to an oncologist anyway because after all my research, I already knew. I already knew it was, I knew the game plan. I knew what was they were going to tell me they wanted me to do and I didn't want to do it. So I felt like I didn't really need to have that conversation. My father in law was relocating out of the country. He retired, he's moving away and he needed help. He lived in Florida and he needed help moving his things, selling the house, all that. So as soon as I recovered from my surgery, that's what we did. We flew out to Florida and spent. I spent three months there just focusing on helping him, doing what he's doing and getting him all situated. And the hard part was we traveled. Right. It's hard to stay healthy when you travel. So I really did my best and I took, I just bought a bunch of green tea bags. I brought my apricot kernels in my dates. You know, you can get oatmeal anywhere. Organic always. When I talk about food, let's just assume I mean organic so that way I don't have to say it every time. Right? Right. Some people do that. Sometimes you talk about things like, oh, but you should do organic. I'm like, yes, you're right, 100%. We should whenever possible.
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Right.
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Let's go organic. Let's go non GMO organic whenever we can. But when I did go out to eat, because you're traveling, there's not always enough food in the house and there's more people. We would go to places like Asian food, Mediterranean food, places that generally use better quality ingredients. There's more vegetarian options, vegan options, things like that. So it's out there now. You can't control how much salt, sugar, oil they're using. You know, you do your best. Right? But my grand, my father in law was probably. I would consider him besides my wife, my first supporter in that. When my wife told him about my diagnosis, he said, whatever you do, don't do chemo. We don't all get that. Not everybody gets that. Some people have people just coming at them all day long about what they should do. And it's usually, you know, hey, you should do what the doctor tells you to do. You know, follow them, they know best, all those things. And really that meant so much to me that someone outside my immediate circle was in my corner and believed that I the same thing I believed. And sometimes that's all we need. It's just that one. And it really was, it really did spark me to continue on. And we spent the three months there and I was all. When I was there, from Jay McClellan's how to Starve cancer book, I heard About a place called Care Oncology and they have an off label protocol. They prescribe off label medications to block the metabolic pathways of cancer. And the four medicines they were using for me were doxycycline, metformin, hydroxychloroquine and mebendazole. Some of those have anti parasitic properties as well. And as we know, there has been shown to be a connection between, you know, the parasite pathways or environment. I mean, parasites love the same environment cancer cells love. So yeah, I mean, technically cancer is parasitic, so it kind of makes sense. But I do, I did take that for three months and I was doing zoom telehealth kind of calls with a doctor, an oncologist there. And I felt pretty safe with that because I thought, well, this is what they're doing is this protocol. And there was one call a few months after my, my surgery when I was talking to him and he said, well, we think you probably should still do chemo. And I'm like, what? Why? I didn't get it. And now my surgeon had told me we got it all. Because that's what they say, right? Yeah. They took out 19 lymph nodes, three of which were positive. So that made me stage three.
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Yeah.
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So in my mind I thought, well, if the only three were positive and you took out 19, you probably got a pretty clean, what do they call it, the perimeter?
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The borders.
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The border, yeah. Clean borders. And I thought, you know, I was pretty comfortable that not knowing about microcells. I was, I thought, you know, the medical stuff, whatever's visible, they got okay. I was good with that. And when he suggested Kiyomo, I thought, well, I guess I'm not going to be seeing you anymore because that's off the table for me. Right. And we were going back to California. And God put it in my heart too, that you know what you need to look into, you need to just do this the natural way, the way I instructed you to heal in the Bible. Right. The leaves of the trees or for the healing of the nations. I thought, okay, all right, God, I'm doing this, I'm going all in. So I stopped taking all those meds too. Plus I thought in my head, this isn't sustainable. I can't just take these for the rest of my life. I needed a, I needed a lifestyle that was going to keep me healthy well beyond my life expectation. So we came back to California and that was done. So that's, that's over. And I started more because that was, I was very busy. I was recovering from my surgery. Then we were in Florida. So I was doing the best I could. I couldn't really focus 100% on just me and just healing. The second we got back to California, I went 90 days raw. Raw food the whole time, you know, so, yeah, kind of self explanatory there. I did still eat oatmeal, but I ate soaked oats, not. I didn't cook them. So it was still raw. Everything was raw. And I also switched to a 100% whole food plant based. I eliminated all animal products. Not because people can't heal by eating animal products.
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Right.
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There's. It's. It's a way of that I looked at it was I wanted to give my body the best chance possible. And from all the testimonies I had heard, you know, we talked about this, that, you know, testimonies are strong, they're powerful. They can give you confidence in what you're doing, they can give you direction. I mean, God puts the people in our paths for a reason. If someone's out there today and they're listening to me talk, God, God's gave you that for a reason, right? I was sent here for a reason. You're listening to this for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. And it's always for our good. Everything. No matter what happens to us, we might think it's something bad happened to us, it's for good. I had a cancer diagnosis. I might think that was the worst thing ever. It happened for my good. It made my life better. So, you know, that's. And so that's. And God said, hey, you know, just go all in. Trust me. So I went raw for 90 days, eliminated all animal products of all kinds, which I wasn't too shook up about it because I had already only been eating chicken and fish at that point. I did do some kefir, but I really eliminated dairy almost immediately. Because dairy is one of the worst things for our body as far as inflammation goes, mucus building up. You know, there's certain things they tell us when we're sick. Even we're from the time we're little kids that we go to the doctor and we have a cold and the sniffles. What do they tell us? Stop eating sugar, don't have dairy. Okay. So if that's good for us to heal our bodies when we have a little sniffle, then why should we ever, you know, if it's, if it's not good for us, then it's never gonna be good for us.
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Yeah, it kills the milkshake.
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Doesn't it? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's not, that's. Yeah, that's almost a hundred percent. I think the hardest thing for, to give up when, when you give up dairy is probably cheese. And it's on everything. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Good luck ordering any food in an American style restaurant that doesn't have cheese on it. It's, it's, it's everywhere. It's hard.
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I love cheese too.
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I know. Yeah, it's a good one. And I started fasting as well. So that was, those were probably my biggest ones going whole food plant based and fasting, I think were probably some of my strongest healing methods. And the fasting does so much not just to heal the body, but to clear the mind, to cleanse. It cleanses everything. It cleans, cleanses our organs, cleanses our palate. So man, after I fat. Do you fast?
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I do, yes.
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Yeah. I mean after a fast. And I don't think it's just because it cleanses the taste buds. So that first food you eat after fast, that's the best food you've ever tasted in your life. And it's not because you're starving. It's because it's clean, it's pure. And you, your taste buds haven't been tainted by salts and oils and all those other things. Additives, chemicals. Yeah. All the other things they put into food. So it's, it's very nice. I still, I still fast. I fast. I started fasting three days out of every month. So 72 hour fast every month. I would call it religiously, but I more like regularly is a better term for it. And I still do water. Yes, water only. And herbal teas.
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Okay.
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I, I would incorporate nothing with caffeine in it. So similar dandelion tea be a fantastic one. Anything that detoxing kind of a tea. Because as we're fasting, you know, as you know, our body is getting rid of all the bad stuff that's inside.
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I'm in my hour fast right now.
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I do. You know, it's almost noon here where I am. I still haven't eaten solid food. I pretty much just consume liquids up until noon and then I do that. So you could call it intermittent fasting.
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Yeah.
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But my liquids have nutrition. I mean I drink celery juice. I have a healing morning tea that I drink that has 15, 16 ingredients in it every day. Yeah. Limiting calories is, it's important. And when we think about the history of man. Right. How long in the history since we've been here, since Our creator put us here. Have we had enough food to eat three meals a day? Very recent, very recent. And so when they say, you know, we should eat three meals a day, like, well, should we? Because we've survived this long without eating three meals a day. And our body's kind of made to not eat three meals a day. So I'm okay with not eating three meals a day. I usually eat two. Kind of. Sometimes I'll just eat one large one around two or three in the afternoon and I'm done.
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Yeah.
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And the people who live the longest aren't the people who eat the most food. That doesn't, that doesn't equate. So there's a lot to be said for calorie deprivation. Not nutrition deprivation, but calorie deprivation. So I started fasting and I had my 6 month scan after this, my scan, my surgery was in September. So six months after that, March, April, I had my six month scan, came back stable, no changes. Obviously the mass was gone because they took it out. Right. But I had nodules in my lungs and lesions in my liver, which is a place to watch because that is usually where colon cancer does metastasize to is the lungs and the liver. That's why they're, they were pinpointing those areas and watching those closely. And I didn't like that. I thought, well, that's not good. Nothing changed. You know, it's like, yeah, the surgery got rid of that, but I wanted to get rid of those nodules and lesions. I thought, well, I'm gonna have to take it up a notch. So I did another raw 60 days and continued my clean diet. Zero tolerance for anything that may cause cancer. If, you know, salt, oil, sugar, out, no oils. I did olive. I would consume olive oil once, an extra virgin olive oil once in a while. No cooking with oils of any kind. I wouldn't consume coconut oil, I don't consume. I use that on the outside of my body, not the inside, just my preference. Went through the whole summer and at the end of the summer, I was due for my one year scan and I thought, well, all right, I gotta, I gotta do something. I'm not, I'm not convinced it's all gone. I'm going in for my scan. All right, let's, let's do this. Let me show em what I can really do. I did my longest fast, which was six days of just water, water and tea. And if you can see me now, I'm 6 foot, I'm about 145 back then I was almost 1 35. I really didn't have a lot to lose. And that's really where a lot of people struggle with the fasting, is that they don't have anything extra, you know, and it's going to take away from their muscle or something that they actually need. So, you know, we have to be careful. We have to know. Know our bodies. And I thought. And six days was the max I could do. I still had a little. Little something to give. And. And I went in for those scans after one year, and it showed no evidence of recurrent disease. And everything was gone except some state. Some tiny little nodules on the. On the lung. But it said, they said it looked like it wasn't even anything. It was just a thing. I. In my mind, they're gone after that scan. That was the last scan I had. So in my healing, I've had three scans. One before surgery, one at six months, and one at one year. And I'm not going to have another one unless something in my blood work tells me that I should or I feel something that I should. Right. Because I don't want to expose my body to any excess radiation. It's already being exposed every day. Right. I'm being exposed to radiation right now. Sorry, emfs? No, no, no. Yeah, it's just part of life. But there are things I have control over, and that's one of them. And I thought, you know what? There's no reason for me to do that. And it's also a mindset. When I believe I don't need it, then I don't need it. Right. The positive mindset of knowing that we're healed rather than hoping that we're healed. And I had a turnaround when after my first scan, it was, oh, what are they going to find? By the time I got to that next scan, it was, watch what I did. Look what I can do. Not, oh, I hope there's nothing there. I hope it hasn't. I hope it hasn't gotten bigger. Because whatever we hope for, whatever we. Whatever we don't hope for, we also get because our. Our mind doesn't know negative. It does. If we say, I don't want to have cancer, well, guess what we're going to get. Because our mind only hears the. It doesn't know. No, and don't. It only knows the positive. It's a subconscious.
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Right.
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Our conscious mind can ration how things and can turn and twist and make it make sense, but our subconscious mind only knows the here and now. It only knows the first person. So whatever we see happening to other people, our subconscious thinks is happening to us. So when we watch scary movies, action movies, our subconscious mind, all that stuff is actually happening to us. Because if you think about it, before we had media, we're out in the world as humans, right? And we're. Our only sphere of influence is our immediate surroundings. And that is what our subconscious mind is programmed to understand, is that everything that is right here, everything around me, is actually happening to me. And it, in our subconscious mind reacts to that.
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Right.
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So we have to be careful with that. Anyway, it's a thinking thing That's. That's part of healing. Right. Is understanding how our diet affects us, understanding how our thoughts affect us. You just. You said how I. I seem positive, and. And I do. Even I've. I. I really always have been. Just because I used. People used to ask me at work. I'd walk around work, and I'd be smiling. They're like, why are you always smiling? I would say, well, what's the other choice? Not smiling. Why. Why would I want to walk around and not smile and smile and feel so good? And why wouldn't you just be happy to. I've always been happy to be here. Yeah, that's, you know, like, hey, how you doing? I'm happy to be here. I really am.
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Yeah, I have that mindset. I think it's just because I don't. I just don't know any better. It's like a surface thing where, like, you know, like a little child, I'm just happy, you know, I'm happy. When I get in my truck to go to work, I'm like, oh, Lord, thank you for this truck that still works. It's got heat in it now, air conditioning, and thanks for the house. Thanks for my family. It's just like. It's just a natural thing, which worked in my favor. In fact, a doctor told me that he always seemed surprised how well I was doing when they're putting me through immunotherapy. I'm like, don't all your other patients react this way? Or, you know, he goes, well, let's just say you're in the top 2%. Like, oh, wow, okay, now I'm happy.
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So, yeah. And those are the people that can. And it helps with the healing. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Yeah. We're too blessed to be stressed.
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Exactly. You basically bombard yourself with nutrition and get rid of stuff that doesn't help you at all. So that's. I mean, what can your body do?
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Otherwise, yeah, that, to me, that. That is the biggest part of healing. Even my general practitioner says that's the hardest part for people is to stop doing the things that are harming them.
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Right.
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It's just hard. It's hard. And I. I get it. It's hard. Even my mom had a story about me she would tell over and over. You know how moms are, about how when I was young, as, as a child, I came home one day and I said, mom, you know, I keep getting these headaches. I think it's a soda, because, you know, soda that has caffeine and you stop drinking it, you get the headaches. I said, you know, I'm just gonna stop drinking soda. And I did. And I really didn't drink. I wasn't a soda drinker till probably I left home and, you know, was out in the world and I thought, I'll have a little soda, sure. But it's been kind. I haven't. It hasn't ever been hard for me to give things up, which plays in my favor. I know how hard it is. And then there's the chemical addiction, if you want to call it that. It's intentionally put in our food for us to crave more. The extra salt, fat, sugar. They know you put the salt, fat, sugar, as much salt, fat and sugar you can in everything that we eat, and it's going to have an addictive quality to it, Right? But to me, it's the most important part. Take all the pills you want. Take all the supplements you want, you know, exercise, all you want. If. If we haven't stopped doing the things that are harming us in the first place, it doesn't. It's not. And that's fasting. That's fast. That's fasting. That's a. It's a permanent fast. But God told us to fast. You know, the instruction, it's in the Bible. You know, we're supposed to be fasting. Jesus didn't say, he didn't tell his disciples, if you fast. He said, when you fast. Yeah, when you fast, because you do fast, you will fast. That's part. That's part of life.
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Of course, we can talk forever on this stuff. But what I like about the fact is you have a website that gives. I. I look through all the, like, the recipes of your juicing and all that. I thought, man, I'm gonna grab this one because. Yeah, yeah, a lot of great information in there. It's a lot of work to eat, right. Because you constantly have to go to the Grocery store. If you don't have your own garden, you know, and get stuff that's fresh and then you gotta clean it, you gotta prepare it. But it's, you know, it's definitely worth changing your habits to be healthy.
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Oh yeah, that's. And what I did and some people, I hope this makes it easier for some people, but what I did was I just did the same thing every day. I even ate the same thing every day. It just made my life easier.
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Yeah.
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And it was good. It has so much flavor. I didn't mind. I loved it. So. And if you. The website is called myhealing quest.com right. And if you go there, like you were saying, there's a recipe tab and it's. There's no ads. The beauty of it, it's just my website and I am not in this to make money. I don't want to make money from anyone. So.
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Right.
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If you go there, you could just click through it. No, no junk mail. You're not going in anyone's spam or anything like that. And there's a recipe section and those are the recipes that I ate every day. My healing morning tea is in there. The one I still drink to this day, the oatmeal. I've scaled back a little bit on. It's quite the production. But I would make it in bulk so I would have two or three servings for the week because I know how hard it is to do these things every day. Right. And it's not so much you have to follow these recipes to heal your body. It's just to me, it gives people an idea of what's possible. I put so many ingredients into one dish and I. That's why I always said I want as much nutrition in one bowl, one pot, one plate, as much as I can get in one sitting. And then I don't have to worry about it the rest of the day. I don't have to eat a bunch of little things throughout the day. I just found a bunch of things that I could put in a bowl. And if you look at the recipes too, I would say if someone's going to go to the website and look at the recipes, scroll down. And I took the time. I'm pretty. I think I did it on all the recipes. There might be some that are missing, but I took the time to write the vitamin content, the mineral content, the amino acid content, which is very important. I'm getting into a protein discussion. But the amino acids that these foods contain and the. Then the anti cancer properties of each ingredient. So when you look at how many ingredients are in each dish, and you look at all these vitamins, minerals, amino acids and anti cancer properties, I mean, it doesn't have a chance. I don't know about established tumors. Cause I don't know if I had any. But these little micro cancers that haven't got a blood supply yet. Talk about angiogenesis. Look that up if you're interested in how that goes. Not you, but I know, you know. Yeah. If anybody else wants to know. And antiangiogenic foods are very important to prevent recurrence and metastasis. And so you just look at all of that combined and it's. It's an amazing thing. And just real quick, the amino acid conversation, I will touch on. You know, everybody's gonna tell you, anybody who goes off of animal food, they're gonna tell you, well, you need your protein. Well, we don't need protein. We need amino acids. We need a large variety of amino acids. And go look at those recipes and look at all the amino acids and you tell me if I'm not getting enough protein. Because it's there. It's there. Every amino acid in the book is in those. Each dish. And. And you put that in your body, and then your body, that's what, you know. When we eat protein, our body has to break down whole proteins to get to the amino acids to build our proteins for ourselves. So our body doesn't. We don't get protein by eating protein. We get protein by eating a large variety of amino acids which are available in all the plants. And then our body makes our proteins from that there.
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I know our mindset. My mindset always, you gotta eat meat to get protein. But yeah, tell that to a gorilla.
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Yeah, right. He's getting harnessed. The largest land animals on the planet eating, you know, they have different digestive systems and such, and they have to eat all day long. Right. But yeah, they're huge. Of course, we would too, if we were that big, but we're not. So. Yeah, we still get the same kind of results. We just don't have to eat as much.
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And how did you become a co leader of a helixtrong group?
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Oh, that's a great story. I love that. Yeah, I'm glad we got. I'm glad we're there. It's another God. It's another God moment. Well, I heard about Healy Strong through Chris work, of course. I heard Susie's, you know, testimony, and I watched all of those. And in the back of my mind, you know, Obviously, it connected, too, because I always had the mindset that everything I need to heal, God has provided. And it's free. It's there. It's, you know, free as in the sense of it doesn't cost me any more than I'm already spending on food and think exercise is free. I can go to a gym, but I don't have to. I can exercise. I can drop down right now and do some exercises. So it. It doesn't cost anything. Sweating is free. Fasting is free. You know, all these things that we can do to heal our body. Before I. Before we go out and start spending lots of money, there's things we can do for ourselves, or while we're spending a lot of money, there's things we can do for ourselves, and they don't cost a thing. And that was really my focus. And that was. That's where I do focus, because I think that's where we should all start. There's plenty of people out there with more knowledge than me that can talk about all the extra treatments that cost a lot of money and what they do for us. Um, but I'm really about the foundations of healing, and so is healing Strong, right? And it was. And the fact that I heard about them when I first started healing my body, but didn't really make that connection until I, God, put into my heart. There was a. There's a healing Strong group near me, just down the hill. Healing Strong Rancho Cucamonga leader, Dawn Watson. I'm going to give her a shout out. She's amazing. I got a notification that they were having, and I thought, funny way God puts things in my head to make me do things. I thought it was going to be about fasting. And I'm like, yeah, that's my thing. It's my jam. I love fasting. Let's go talk about fasting. And so I go down the hill, as we call it. I'm in the high desert. They're down below. And so I go down the hill and we get there. And that's not what it's about. It's about. I don't even remember what it was about, but I do remember they had a little drawing at the end. And I won a book. I won Radical Remission.
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Yes.
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It's a great book. Yeah, it's fantastic. Right? Thank you, God. God sent me there to get that book, apparently. And I didn't meet anybody while I was there. My wife and I, we just sort of snuck in, sat in the back, sat there, got our little tickets for the drawing, got our books, and when it was over, got in the group picture and went in, went on our way. But it did familiarize me with Dawn. Seeing her at the front of the group, I was like, oh, okay. So this is the person in charge that's doing a great job. That's nice. And quite a while later that there was an event in Santa Monica, California. Barbara o' Neal was coming to speak for a weekend. And my wife and I is like, we. We should go do this. I. I like Barbara o'. Neill. I like the things she talks about. Right. I'd really like to see her in person. And, you know, it's hard when it was. When, you know, they. They don't really come around very often. I don't know why. If I was a speaker, I'd want to come speak in Southern California as much as possible. It's pretty nice. I'd make that part of my regular tour. But she's around the world, so she's got all kinds of places to go. Yeah, but I went there, and lo and behold, who do I see that God put in our past together is Don Watson and some other people from the Rancho Cucamonga group. Yeah, you could say coincidence, say divine, whatever you want to say, but, you know, God put her into my path. And I noticed that there was some questions being asked about collagen. And one of the people in her group, I think it's Laura in her group, was asking about, you know, what if we don't, you know, because they were talking about bone broth and things like that for collagen. She goes, well, what about people that don't eat animals? What do you do about that, about collagen? And I asked my wife. I go, should I. Should I tell her about collagen and how our body just makes it again from amino acids. Right. Our body makes collagen. We don't make collagen from eating collagen. I'm not trying to stomp on the collagen industry or anybody who uses it. Go ahead, you know, do what you do what you need to do, but you don't have to if you don't want to. I'm not saying it doesn't make a difference anyway, so. But I did. So I approached her. I'm like, oh, hey, just. Just so you know, it's okay. Our body doesn't make collagen from eating collagen. And she's like, yeah, I didn't think so. Okay, good. But that got the conversation going. And then later, in the day, dawn, we were talking about healing, right? And I was talking about these events. And again, I don't try to stomp on anyone who. We all have to make a living, right? And if we're going to make a living by helping other people, even, even all the better. But I did mention to her that, you know, I like these events, but I don't know about all this extra stuff that people are spending their money on. I really prefer to focus on the foundations of healing, all of the free things that we can do for ourselves first. And you don't hear about a lot about that at these places because, you know, not that they don't believe in it, it's just that that's not what they're there to do. You know, they're there to. They're there to represent their, their product line or whatever it might be. And some of them are fantastic. I have a great time talking to the vendors about their stuff because they're really good, but it's not part of the healing foundation. So I was talking to dawn about that and she said, hey, you know, there's a. There's someone up in your area that wants to start a healing strong group, but she won't do it by herself. She wants someone else to help her. All right, you know what? I'll probably do that. I'll be okay with that. And then at the next meeting, I went down to the next meeting in Rancho Cucamonga and Sandy was there. Sandy Ingram is my co leader and we started talking and our testimonies aren't the same, but they're similar. Her testimony is amazing. I love hearing it. She has a great testimony about kind of doing what she needed to do to heal. And then it didn't really work. So then really focusing on. And then it did work when she really focused. So it's good for her. It's a good sign that, you know, just because it doesn't work doesn't mean we should give up, you know, it doesn't.
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C
It.
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For me, it just worked, which is great because I just went in all in from day one. But for some people, it's hard to go all in. And as Chris work says, right. 100% is easy, 99% is hard.
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C
Yeah.
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Anyway, that's what we find, that's what we will find out eventually down the road, is that when we fully commit to healing our bodies, it doesn't have a choice. It just. That's what it's built to do. It's what we are created to Do. That's how God created our bodies. So we got together and we had our first meeting. I think it was May of this year. May of this year we had our first meeting. It's not a large group, it's growing organically as we say. And you know, I want it to grow. I want more people to get the information. But I would like for more people not to need the information.
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C
Yeah, true.
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But you know, we welcome everybody too. And I do emphasize that this, this, we talk about cancer a lot in, in the meetings and the healing, and the healing properties that, you know, things angio anti angiogenic foods things, things like that, things that are cancer specific. But I do emphasize that healing isn't just about healing. One dis ease. When our body is in dis ease the things we do to heal from one thing it's going to heal another thing, it's going to heal all the rest. When I fast, I lower my blood pressure, my glucose goes down to normal levels, it levels out and it remains that way after the fast. So whatever we're doing to heal our bodies, it's just gonna have a overall benefit. I mean some people have, you know, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, whatever it is, healing is healing. There's no reason this has to be a support group just for cancer thrivers. Yes, that's, you know, we do talk about, you know, those adjunct therapies and those protocols and things. But when it comes to the day to day foundations of healing, it's, it's, it applies to all people.
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C
Yes, it was foreign because of cancer, but everything, diabetes and all kinds of diseases, if you change your diet, your attitude, get rid of toxins, all that kind of stuff, you're only going to get healthier.
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Yeah, we do and we do have people that attend our meetings that have not had a diagnosis. They just want to live a healthy life. Because as you know, just like right now, you, what you and I are doing, once we put, once you plant that seed, it's in there and it's. And they'll tell someone, they'll talk about it to people and then that person will talk about it and then that, you know, and that's how, that's how eventually, hopefully our family, our family of God will get back to the original intent for our lifestyles, which was not convenience, by the way. We were not built to be for the convenient lifestyle. We've made our lives way too easy. We're built, we are built for stress and hardship. If our bodies couldn't survive stress and hardship none of us would be here. We come from. We come from good stock.
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C
In case someone's listening. In your area. Where do you meet, when and where? Let's put it that way.
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Oh, thank you. Yes, we're the Victorville area. We are called Healing Strong Victor Valley because we represent the entire area, not just one town, because we want it to be open and welcome to everyone.
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C
Right.
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So we meet in Victorville. Our current meeting location is at a wellness center called Life's Essentials. And our host, Tiffany, she offers therapies for people. We don't talk about that at the class, but she does provide some insights at some of the lessons where her therapies are relevant to the lesson. Things such as essential oil therapy. She does hydrotherapy, things like that for detoxing and cleansing. Yeah. And so we had. It's great. We have a kind of a built in expert that is with us at all those meetings. And it's, it's not a large, it's not a large room and it, but it's perfect for our group and it's. It's right next to one of the hospitals. So.
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C
Perfect.
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Want to come to our meeting before you end up at that other building?
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C
Yeah.
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A
Stop here so you don't have to stop there.
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C
Yeah. So people want to get a hold of you, of course, to find out just about all this information that we've been talking about at your website, myhealingquest.com.
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A
Correct. Yes.
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C
You also do have the My Healing Quest podcast. You still doing that?
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What that is? It's. It's recordings. Recordings from my lives. So, yes, I do still post. I do still post on that.
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C
And you write music. You write and produce music. And I looked that up. It was. It's under lyrics by dmc. I get that on my Apple music thingy. You have one called the Healer, which I just happen to have it here.
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Giving you all you need. I gave you the leaves and every fruit that contains seeds. I love those words.
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C
We got so many other songs on there that they're all great.
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Oh, thanks. Thank you. Yeah. And it's for one, for. I like to write for every mood because I'm always in different moods when I write. I write the lyrics. I. I am not a singer or a musician. So that's not me singing, not me playing instruments. Just so everybody knows.
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C
Oh, we gotta go. See ya.
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Yeah, don't. Please don't ask me to sing live. Be like, hey, why don't you sing that song? Oh, no, you don't want that. Suddenly, suddenly the airways go quiet. But, yeah, it's a hobby. It's something God puts in my heart. And it's. When I write, it's beautiful to me because it's usually first thing in the morning when it's still quiet and everything is clear. Before the noise of the world has entered my head, I can really connect with whatever I feel. A lot of love songs, you know, I write for songs for the people I love.
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C
Right.
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And just some fun songs. Just a funny. Like I was telling you, a funny phrase comes into my head, and I thought, you know what that'd be. That'd be catchy in a song. And I wrote that. And it's just a hobby. But I do post them because that's a great way to keep them around. You can find them lyrics by dmc because that's. Those are my initials, dmc. And it's. It's everywhere. It's, you know, Spotify, you can stream them anywhere, right? The Apple music, Amazon Music, all of those. My favorite ones are the worship songs, though. I would. I wish I would had a way on those platforms to separate those things.
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C
Right.
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So it would be easier for people to see. But some of my favorites are God made me this way, Count my blessings, what Would Jesus Do? Really good. Those are my favorite. Some of my favorites, you know, and I think the spiritual songs are my favorite. I'm not gonna lie.
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C
Yeah, that's it. They all sound great to me, so.
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A
I must thank you. So. Thank you so much.
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C
Well, Dan, we could talk forever, obviously, but we're gonna have to wrap this up here eventually. So thank you so much for being part of this. I love your story. I love the fact that you. You're doing like I do. You feel like you got to give back. You know, God has helped you to survive. Well, more than just helped you. But now. Now you feel like, you know what? I got to give back, which is why I'm a group of leader, freaking link strong. I'm a terrible leader, but I can open the door and let people in. And it's all women who are battling breast cancer and they. They feed off of each other and they're just loving it. I don't think they know I'm there.
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I. Yeah, I am the only man. And I mean, like, that's great at my meetings, but I do. I have. I do get to. I get the chance to see. They do give me an opportunity. You know, when we're going through the slides, I get to say some things. Yeah. But, you know, it's what I'd like to, though. But they all have their own story, right? They all have their own success. And yeah, it's great. And I know they love having you there too, I'm sure. Oh, yeah.
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C
I'm just eye candy. That's all I am.
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A
No, that's right. That's right.
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C
All right, well, thank you so much, Dan. And I just hope that your group keeps growing. Not because I want people of cancer, but just so people will know that there is an alternative to what most doctors have to give people in lab coats. They sometimes don't know what us regular people know because we're doing research that you don't learn in medical school.
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I, I say that, you know, hey, you know, it's okay. Doctors read a lot of books. There's nothing wrong with reading a lot of books. Yeah, but you got to read the right books exactly as you're reading books doesn't mean you know everything. There's some books they haven't read, right? That's right. Yeah.
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C
Well, thank you so much, Dan.
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A
All right. Thanks, Jim. God bless you for all you do, brother.
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