A Fond Memory: Rachel Dratch Disobeys Bridger

Summary

Podcast Summary: I Said No Gifts! — “A Fond Memory: Rachel Dratch Disobeys Bridger”

Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Rachel Dratch
Date: November 27, 2025
Network: Exactly Right & iHeartPodcasts

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This episode of I Said No Gifts! features a light-hearted, meandering, and remarkably candid conversation between host Bridger Winegar and comedy legend Rachel Dratch. The two dive into topics ranging from childhood athletic ineptitude and genetic ancestry, to the heartbreak of a too-small ice cream cone and the pitfalls of improvised gift-giving. As always, the “no gifts” policy is flagrantly ignored—this time with particularly hilarious and chaotic results.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fond (and Not-So-Fond) Memories: Bridger & Rachel’s First Meeting

• Ski Lodge Encounter:

  • The pair reminisce about first meeting at a “swanky ski lodge” in Park City, Utah, with Bridger admitting his involvement was accidental and motivated by a bathroom break, while Rachel beams about having already been a fan thanks to Twitter.
  • [05:09] Rachel: “I knew your name because I followed you on Twitter … I loved all your quips and comments.”

• Skiing in Massachusetts:

  • Rachel shares charming stories of “janky” childhood ski trips to New Hampshire and Massachusetts, and the uniquely rough, icy conditions:
    • [08:02] Rachel: “Skiing became like this very rich person thing, but back then, it was a little more janky in Massachusetts … it’s very icy and people ski in jeans.”

2. Genetics, Ancestry, and Roast-by-DNA

• The Roasting Power of Ancestry.com:

  • Rachel shares her experience with genetic testing and the sometimes brutal trait read-outs, including, memorably, being informed she has “lower athletic ability.”
    • [09:11] Rachel: “I didn’t need to see that in print because I knew it. I’m a terrible athlete.”

• Surprising Family Revelations:

  • DNA testing reveals her close family friends growing up were actually distant cousins, a surprise discovered only after her father’s passing.
    • [15:10] Rachel: “There’s this guy who’s like my dad’s best buddy … his name is on my Ancestry as a third cousin … none of us knew this.”

• Bridger’s Mormon Upbringing & Family History:

  • Bridger explains the Mormon tradition of genealogy, including the “controversial” practice of posthumous baptism, and how his family history is dealer’s choice for ancestry sleuths.
    • [17:03] Bridger: “It’s because Mormons … baptize dead people into the religion ... they like have just endless lists of names from history.”

• Earwax & Other Genetic Mysteries:

  • The pair bond over the odd and sometimes disgusting “traits” included in modern genetic profiles, such as “wet earwax,” which Rachel finds particularly upsetting.
    • [18:32] Rachel: “They have … if you like cilantro or you have wet earwax. I’m not kidding.”

3. Gift Presentation: The Freezer Fiasco

• Rachel Disobeys the Rules—Spectacularly:

  • Rachel, with barely a day’s notice and stranded in LA without a car, rushes to Larchmont and selects two wildly mismatched gifts: a “mystifying” tester bottle of perfume (Demeter’s “Redhead in Bed”) and two pints of Jenny’s ice cream.
  • [26:13] Bridger (after opening the fragrance): “It’s the Demeter brand … and the name of the fragrance is Redhead in Bed.”
  • [28:26] Rachel: “That’s my explanation of why you have a greasy bottle of redhead in bed.”

• The Perfume Test:

  • Both are baffled—and somewhat appalled—by the fragrance, stating it smells like chemicals and paint thinner rather than anything vaguely seductive or even pleasant.
    • [28:32] Rachel: “It doesn’t even smell that good … it smells very chemical.”
    • [29:01] Bridger: “I don’t know what I was expecting a redhead in bed to smell like, but … paint thinner.”

• Ice Cream as a Peace Offering:

  • To apologize for the oddball perfume, Rachel brings Jenny’s chocolate and wild berry lavender ice creams. The group enjoys tasting and frankly critiquing them, ultimately bonding over a shared love of chocolate and suspicion towards fruit-based desserts.
    • [33:53] Bridger: “It’s a hard one to screw up.”
    • [36:13] Rachel: “I should have assumed a chocolate thing on you.”

4. Ice Cream, Sadness & Solo Treats

• Massachusetts Ice Cream Culture:

  • Rachel laments that other states are not as ice-cream-crazed as Massachusetts, and the unique confusion around regional terminology like “frap” for milkshake.
    • [38:32] Rachel: “A frap? … I thought it was a word that Starbucks had invented.”

• Solo Ice Cream Sorrows:

  • Rachel tells a widely relatable and oddly hilarious story about the emotional low point of getting a solo scoop of (tiny) ice cream at Salt & Straw while alone in LA.
    • [41:27] Rachel: “I just took the ice cream, and I was, like, visibly shaken … it was, like, done in three bites. The experience lasted, like, 40 seconds.”
    • [43:19] Bridger: “Salt & Straw owes you … you owe me a double scoop for free.”

• Self-Judgment and Treats:

  • The conversation shifts to the cultural weirdness—and shame—around treating oneself when alone, with both agreeing that everyone deserves ice cream, regardless of company or lack thereof.

5. Moviegoing, Preferences, and Opt-Outs

• Solo Movies & Selective Viewing:
  • Both recount fond memories of going to movies alone and discuss the trend of skipping long, Oscar-bait or heavy films in favor of enjoying comedy or less “homework-like” movies.
    • [49:09] Bridger: “If the movie’s three hours long, I only go to an hour and a half of it. … It feels incredible … like you broke out of jail.”
    • [50:33] Rachel: “I don’t make myself watch Oscar movies anymore. … I don’t like Action Hero … I’ll not see war movies.”

6. Games & Listener Advice

• Game: Gift or a Curse

  • Rachel eagerly plays the recurring game where she rates random items as “gift” or “curse,” including dog leashes worn around waists (curse), yellow popsicles (curse), and rat tail hairstyles (controversial, but Bridger calls it a gift for the spectacle).
  • [56:43] Rachel: (on leash belts) “I guess I’m going to say curse because I don’t get why you’re not just holding it with your hand.”
  • [60:18] Bridger: (on rat tails) “It’s a gift. I don’t know that it’s ever been in style, but it’s always been interesting to look at.”

• Email Advice: The Discount Debacle

  • Listener Bo writes in, guilt-stricken over leaving a sale sticker on a birthday gift for his sister-in-law. Rachel and Bridger stress the basics: rip the tag off, include a gift receipt, and don’t feel bad about shopping sales—everyone does it!
  • [64:14] Rachel: “You can rip the price tag off and get, like, some sort of gift receipt.”
  • [66:54] Bridger: “Never pay retail. That’s what I say.”

7. Promotion: Rachel Dratch’s Podcast

• Rachel plugs her own new show, “Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch,” about ghostly, unexplained, and psychic phenomena, gently mocking herself for being a “not full-tilt” believer but an enthusiastic collector of spooky stories.
  • [53:34] Rachel: “It’s called Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch. … It could be ghost stories, psychic phenomena, weird, eerie things … I’m not a truly Woo Woo person but every so often I hear a ghost story and I’m like, oh wow.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the ancestral DNA report: “Now they just roast you.” — Bridger Winegar [09:29]
• On discovering real family via DNA: “These kids I grew up as family friends are actually like my fourth cousins or something.” — Rachel Dratch [15:36]
• On solo ice cream heartbreak: “I just took the ice cream, and I was, like, visibly shaken. … The experience lasted, like, 40 seconds.” — Rachel Dratch [41:27]
• On questionable gifts: “That’s my explanation of why you have a greasy bottle of Redhead in Bed.” — Rachel Dratch [28:26]
• On dessert loyalties: “When someone says they don’t like chocolate they drop in my esteem completely.” — Rachel Dratch [36:22]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:00 — Bridger introduces Rachel, initial banter about LA and their first meeting
• 05:00-08:00 — Rachel describes her background with skiing and sporting “jankiness”
• 09:00-11:00 — Genetic testing, trait “roasting,” and DNA surprises
• 14:54-18:14 — Rachel’s secret relatives, Bridger’s Mormon genealogy primer
• 26:06 — Rachel presents her “gifts”
• 28:26 — Explanation & reaction to the “Redhead in Bed” perfume
• 33:36-36:38 — Jenny’s ice cream tasting, chocolate vs. fruit debate
• 41:06-44:12 — Rachel’s solo ice cream cone disaster at Salt & Straw
• 49:09-51:05 — Moviegoing philosophy: “watch half and leave” & Oscar movie opt-out
• 53:34 — Rachel introduces her podcast, “Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch”
• 55:32-61:57 — “Gift or a Curse” Game
• 62:31-68:10 — Listener advice: gifting etiquette, shopping sales, and the tester bottle fiasco

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Tone & Style

This episode is peppered with good-natured self-deprecation, dry humor, and comedic detours. Both Bridger and Rachel volley witty observations and warmly roast their own quirks, making for an episode that is both deeply relatable and riotously funny.

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Final Thoughts

• Rachel’s combination gift (old perfume tester + trendy ice cream) unintentionally encapsulates the spirit of the show: well-intentioned, a little odd, but always sincere—and a little bit improvisational.
• The episode is an ode to everyday awkwardness, the solace of comedy in mundane mishaps, and, inevitably, the joy of breaking the “no gift” rule in new and creative ways.

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Recommended For: Listeners who love long, winding, comedic conversations about nothing and everything, especially fans of cringe, odd gifts, and sharp, observational humor.

Transcript

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[A]

When I invited you here thought I Made myself perfectly clear. When you're a yes to my home, you got to come to me empty handed. I said no guil. Your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

[B]

Welcome to I said no Gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're in the backyard. I'm still reeling from the live show and kind of the assault that happened there. Just the audience, the guests, everyone attacking me. Oh, but you know, it was a nice time and I hope you enjoyed being there or watching or third option listening. I'm still, of course, getting the emails from the gun website from the Bridger I mentioned at the show. I've decided not to unsubscribe because I've realized that really lets me keep an eye on this person's purchases. So should he, you know, start making alarming choices, I can alert his family, the proper, proper authorities. So watch out that Bridger. I think we should get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. It's Rachel Dratch. Hi, Rachel. Welcome to Iceland of gifts.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I'm so happy to have you here.

[A]

Thank you. It's so lovely here, listeners. I'm sure you've heard that before, listeners, but I'm here to concur.

[B]

You're here just for a brief time, so I feel like I'm ruining your trip.

[A]

No, actually, I had nothing going on today, so you've provided me an activity.

[B]

Wonderful. What do you do in LA when you don't have anything going on?

[A]

Well, I haven't been here for a while. Sometimes I meet up with friends. A lot of my friends are out of town right now, so doing a lot of staring into space. But I'm here on a little job, so I was doing that yesterday and the day before. Today's my first free day.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I was just walking around the neighborhood that I'm staying in and the.

[B]

Weather is not quite as scorchy as it was before.

[A]

It's very nice.

[B]

Got a breeze. I think it's about 82, which is kind of the ideal summer temperature for me. Yes, there's still. I thought school was out, but it.

[A]

Sounds like they just school children.

[B]

They're trapped at the school.

[A]

Maybe there's a day camp happening.

[B]

There may be a day camp or child training or something like this. I don't know what they do at schools anymore. How are you doing?

[A]

I'm good.

[B]

Do you remember the first time we met?

[A]

Yes. We met at a swanky ski lodge in Park City, Utah.

[B]

I feel like that must have been such an alarming interaction for you.

[A]

No. Because. Okay, first of all, I knew your name because I followed you on Twitter.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which it was then called. And I loved your. I don't know how you came across my feed or whatever they call it. But anyway, I loved all of your quips and comments, and so I followed you, and I had no idea who you were or anything. And then you approached me in the swanky ski lodge lobby and you said your name was Bridger. I was like, oh, my gosh, I love you. One of those kind of things.

[B]

I need to correct the history a little bit here, because Jim was with me.

[A]

Right. But I didn't know him yet.

[B]

You didn't know him. Yeah, but we saw. We were just. We had been on a drive. It was the winter time. We had been driving, and I don't know why we stopped. I probably had to pee because that's every 20 minutes.

[A]

Pee @ the swanky hotel.

[B]

Look, if I have an opportunity.

[A]

Oh, my God, this is like the swankiest hotel. I don't want people to think I usually roll like this, but this was my once a year back then. This is my once a year splurge.

[B]

Well, we walked up on you.

[A]

It's quite a place to pee.

[B]

You were just throwing cash into the fireplace. Exactly.

[A]

That's what it's like.

[B]

Laughing y. I guess we must have stopped for me to use the restroom. I can't imagine other people.

[A]

The s' mores station that they have there.

[B]

Oh, my God. I didn't get to.

[A]

Oh, they have a whole, like, s' mores cart. It's like a Willy Wonka situation. Anyway, go ahead. Go ahead.

[B]

God, I've gotta get to this place.

[A]

That's how the other half. Liv Bridger. We don't just pee there. We have the s' mores cart. Anyway, go on.

[B]

I was with Jim. I was working on Kimmy Schmidt at the time, but we hadn't met. You were on that season, but not in my episode, so we hadn't actually met.

[A]

Oh, yes. Yes. That's what. Yeah, okay, now I remember.

[B]

And we followed each other on Twitter, but did not know each other. And of course, Jim takes this bit of information and says, well, you have to say hi to her. And I. Of course. It's like this woman is on vacation. I'm leaving her alone. But this is how it goes in every interaction with him and me is. I'm pushed into it.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

So I just want people to know I Don't just approach people on their vacations.

[A]

Okay. But I was very excited to meet you.

[B]

You were so wonderful, because now I remember.

[A]

Yes. You were in Kimmy, and maybe that's why. Anyway, no, I was. I mean, I flipped out to meet you, so it all worked out.

[B]

Were you skiing?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Are you an active skier?

[A]

Yeah, kind of.

[B]

Active skier. Sounds like an active shooter now. I.

[A]

Now I go like, once a year. But I grew up kind of skiing. I mean, it's like the one sport I was kind of okay at, but I'm probably not now, but anyway. But I go because I. I just like the whole vibe.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know?

[B]

And you grew up learning to ski in Massachusetts?

[A]

Yeah, we would go up to New Hampshire.

[B]

How's the skiing there?

[A]

Well, it's. It's kind of. It's very icy and people ski in jeans. It was very, like. Like, we would go up every weekend with friends and just like. It was. I don't. I know this sounds weird to say, because right now, like, skiing became like this very, like, rich person thing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But back then, it was a little more janky in Massachusetts. So anyway. Yeah. So it's a lot harder out there. Cause it's ski. It's very icy.

[B]

Did it take you a long time to learn?

[A]

Well, I started when I was a kid, so I don't really. Those things, you know, I wanted. Like, I have a kid, and I want him to learn everything when he's a kid, because whatever it is, like music, languages, like. Like those things are really hard to learn as adults.

[B]

Nearly impossible.

[A]

I mean, I never quite picked up the language thing, you know, Anyway, so. Yeah. So you want to. You want to expose your kid to everything and.

[B]

So as a skier now, do you feel like you're a decent skier?

[A]

I'm okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't go down the black diamonds.

[B]

But you're going up to everything. What's the closest, a blue or red?

[A]

A blue. I can do a blue.

[B]

Blue.

[A]

That's a blue.

[B]

Difficult ski.

[A]

A blue is fine.

[B]

Wow. Do you feel like your kid's better than you?

[A]

No, because we don't go that often.

[B]

Oh, right. You have the whole history.

[A]

He's. He's really into basketball. He's not that. Yeah, it's a once in a while thing.

[B]

Did you ever play basketball?

[A]

No. No, I didn't. I'm a horrible athlete.

[B]

You're in good company, actually.

[A]

I did the ancestry DNA thing. And now they give you traits, too.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah. So they tell you what traits. It's like, stuff like you like cilantro or you have wet earwax. I'm not kidding. But this just came up in my thing. But one thing, it said like athletic ability and it said like lower athletic ability. I was like, I knew it. Like, I didn't need to see that in print because I knew it. I'm a terrible athlete.

[B]

They now just roast you.

[A]

All my friends from growing up are really good athletes. Like all of them. And I never was. It was. It's a thing that I'm not a good athlete. Even now when we go on like lady trips, they'll wake up at like 7am like, let's go for a three mile run. I'm like, oh, God, can I please hang out with some loafers? People?

[B]

None of them is doing that in their personal time. They just know their friends are around and it's a show off move.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so.

[B]

Yeah. If you're with your friends.

[A]

Vacation.

[B]

No, no, no. Running.

[A]

Running and whatever.

[B]

Working out all that early morning exercise on vacation.

[A]

They're all into that.

[B]

That's a problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you're getting all of these traits now. I'm actually kind of interested in getting into this ancestry website. Giving them my. All of my personal information.

[A]

I didn't really think of that part of it, but yeah. Oh. They say like if you, if you're a night owl, if you like dancing. I'm not kidding. Like all this stuff, which I do.

[B]

And it says I do. Did it feel mostly accurate?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

What about cilantro? Do you like cilantro?

[A]

Oh, I like cilantro. It said I didn't, so that's.

[B]

Oh, interesting. And that's a real 50.

[A]

Just got really boring. I'm telling you what. Cilantro. Anyway. Sorry, that's a bust on myself, not on you. Okay.

[B]

I wonder how they figure out the dancing thing. That makes zero sense to me. I know.

[A]

I know it well. Also, like extrovert, I think is part of which I am. And it said I would be.

[B]

And wow, I feel like that must just be a lot of guessing.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know how they do it. I don't know which gene, you know, little segment accounts for some of this stuff.

[B]

The dancing gene.

[A]

But I'm kind of interested in it.

[B]

But you do like dancing?

[A]

I do, yeah. I'm not saying I'm good at it, but I do like it.

[B]

How often are you dancing?

[A]

Not, not very often. Like at weddings, funerals, events. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. That's me. I. When I'm at a wedding time of my life.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And everyone's shocked.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

That I'm enjoying myself. But then. And I think, oh, this is so much fun. But then. What other opportunity do you ever have to dance?

[A]

I know. Not very often.

[B]

When was the last time you were dancing? Was it.

[A]

Actually, I just went to my college reunion. I was dancing there. We had the silent disco. Have you ever done that?

[B]

I actually did recently.

[A]

Yeah. It was really fun.

[B]

It's a very. It's an interesting experience.

[A]

Yeah. You think it's gonna not be connected, but it is, because everyone's like, go to. Like, there's three channels, like, blue, red, and green, and they each have a different song playing. So if a good song, because I was like, go to blue. Go to blue. And then everyone jams out together.

[B]

Were they different? Like.

[A]

No, they're not even different genres. I don't know why. I didn't really understand. But anyway. Sorry, but that's. So I was just dancing, like, last week.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Dancing the night away till two in the morning, people. It's in the jeans. It's in my jeans. Night owl and likes to dance.

[B]

So I want to see this because I don't think I've seen either of my parents ever dance.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Not in a single situation. Okay, so I want to put ancestry to the test.

[A]

Yeah, you have to see, maybe if I go. Maybe it's. Maybe it's. It's nurture that you like to dance and not nature.

[B]

I don't know where I'm going.

[A]

I don't know what I'm saying here. Okay, you can cut my hypothesizing.

[B]

No. Okay, keep going scientifically here. Let's get some more theories.

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[A]

Yeah. Like, I mean, without going into it, found a secret relative. Oh, I didn't expect that. I know it's. It was kind of up the tree, so it wasn't like I have a sister. It wasn't that drastic, but did not expect that.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

But you know what else I found out? I'm looking through ancestry at like, your DNA matches and I see the name of my dad's best friend who we grew up with. Talking about the skiing. We went skiing with this family in New Hampshire. We would go up, we would share this, like, janky house with them. There's this guy who's like, my dad's like, they work together. Best buddy. There's his name on my ancestry as a third cousin.

[B]

What, and you didn't know this?

[A]

No. And my dad unfortunately had already passed away when I saw this. But I called up the guy and like, I was like, are you. He's like, yeah. The whole time we're related. So now these. These kids I grew up as family friends are actually like my fourth cousins or something.

[B]

And none of you knew this?

[A]

None of us knew. And we still don't even know the connection.

[B]

It's weird when you get into third and fourth cousins where it starts, it means less and less.

[A]

It means a lot less. Yeah.

[B]

But still is way more connected than anybody else. It's a hard thing to parse. It's like, should I care about you more? Yeah, probably not.

[A]

But wait, have you done any of this?

[B]

No, I. I grew up Mormon.

[A]

I was just about to say. You grew up Mormon. And they have all the records.

[B]

This is their bread and butter.

[A]

So before ancestry even came out, there was the library, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you can go look up your records before the Internet existed.

[B]

Yeah, they. I think they basically like, my mom does this. They like send her old records, old birth charts or whatever, birth certificates, ancient things. And she looks at them, the scans of them, and then types out their information to continue documenting these people.

[A]

Like about her own people or just everybody.

[B]

It's a giant volunteer project.

[A]

And how did that start? Like, why the Mormons? And why. Why.

[B]

That's because. It's because Mormons, this is a controversial subject, is they baptize dead people.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Into the religion. And so they get these names.

[A]

They're collecting.

[B]

They're collecting members. Members. And so they like have just endless lists of names from history who they're baptizing. There have been some controversial ones. I pretty sure Hitler got baptized at one point. You know, I don't think that was the.

[A]

I don't think they end goal, but a side effect.

[B]

Somehow somebody got that in.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I would need to be fact checked, but I'm pretty sure that's true. But ye. Things like that, that happen.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so. And obviously there's just a focus. They obviously love family history, loved each other, and there's a real push for family. So they're. They care about it a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so to answer your question, I don't know anything about my family history.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because it was one of those things culturally growing up where like, you know, I wasn't interested in any of it. So it's like I was. I'm almost kind of. I was allergic to it. I don't. I don't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Some people who are from Scandinavia or something, but I've slowly. It's like Irish and Scottish and English, Swedish, German.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Various white people from around the world.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But if you ask my mom, I bet she could really break it down for you. And you know, ancestry.com I guess, kind of just took the idea and ran with it. They said, let's put some more computers in this thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now the Mormons can't tell you if you like cilantro or not.

[A]

That's true. They don't have that edge.

[B]

They don't have that technology, like to.

[A]

Dance or not or how wet your earwax is, which is disgusting. But that was something I was surprised to see as a trait.

[B]

Do people have earwax?

[A]

I guess some people have dry and some people have wet ear. I know, it's so gross. I just can't imagine genetic.

[B]

What?

[A]

Sorry to talk about earwax, everybody.

[B]

I'm not trying to imagine earwax.

[A]

Turn you off your lunch right now.

[B]

No, I just feel like. I guess I'm only used to my own earwax, so I can't. I've never really interacted with other people.

[A]

That's true. That's probably good.

[B]

So I might be a freak. Who knows? Someone might look at my earwax and be like this. Genetically, this guy is a monster. But I feel like it's pretty normal earwax. I've never had trouble.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

They tell you you shouldn't clean out your ear.

[A]

Yeah. You shouldn't use a Q tip, I think.

[B]

But then what?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's that. That falls, like, low on my list of problems, concerns, whatever.

[B]

Are you using a Q tip?

[A]

No, no, no. I mean, I don't. I don't really focus on quitting smoking, everybody.

[B]

It's like, oh, I used to use Q tips in my ears.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm still occasionally tempted. I keep them out of my bathroom.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because if they're there, I will use them constantly. It really is like smoking for me. Jim's like, well, I need Q tips in the bathroom. I was like, well, if you put them in there, I'll use them.

[A]

Oh, this is really a thing? You're tempted?

[B]

Yeah. He hid them and I, of course, found them.

[A]

Oh, it's.

[B]

It's truly almost one to one with smoking. And now I'm probably damaging my ears again.

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

It's just so tempting. And it's not like I have a horrible earwax problem. It's just, like, built into you. I wonder if ancestry could tell me that. That you love Q tips.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

I'm gonna sign up for the website. I'm gonna send them all of my blood.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What do you do? You swab your cheek.

[A]

You spit into a little cup. Oh, you spit like a teeny little vial. Okay. Yeah.

[B]

That feels like. Not enough.

[A]

I don't know. It did the trick, I guess.

[B]

So where are most of your ancestors from?

[A]

Well, they're all from what is now the Ukraine.

[B]

Oh, okay. Eastern. Eastern records scratch, right?

[A]

Yeah. But. Yeah.

[B]

And does your family line in the United States go fairly far back?

[A]

No, no, no. They're all, like, immigrants from, like, the, like, 19th century 20s. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Early 20th century.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Kind of thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I can't imagine my ancestors go that far back in American history because they were all in the. They all went west.

[A]

Okay. I mean, I grew up in Massachusetts where there's, you know, people that were on the Mayflower, but then there's a lot of immigrants there too. So it's sort of a mix of wasps and.

[B]

Right. The Mayflower. When you can trace it back to the Mayflower, you're.

[A]

I know you're really in here when you have one of those Mayflower names. Plymouths.

[B]

Plymouth Rock.

[A]

Plymouth Rock. Yes, so they say.

[B]

So they say. Who can trust Plymouth Rock? Well, you know, I would go on and on and on about family history. That's kind of what the theme of this podcast is. But there is.

[A]

How do we start talking about that? I don't remember skiing.

[B]

Skiing, wow.

[A]

Massachusetts skiing. How did we get to the.

[B]

Being good at skiing? You.

[A]

Athletic ability.

[B]

Athletic ability.

[A]

It's in my DNA to not be good at athletic things. And that's how we got on this, all this.

[B]

I bet you have an excellent memory.

[A]

I do have a good memory.

[B]

Mine's horrible.

[A]

I think it is.

[B]

Oh, I mean, I mean you just demonstrated you were able to figure this out, this thing that happened six minutes ago.

[A]

Okay. Right. Well, I do a lot of these interviews.

[B]

Well, I'm very, you know, I was excited to have you here today until.

[A]

I started talking about earwax. Okay.

[B]

The list of reasons I'm mad you're here.

[A]

Ok. Let's talk about why you're excited.

[B]

I was excited to have Rachel here. I just adore you. I thought we'll have a nice time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We'll move on with our days.

[A]

Okay, perfect.

[B]

So I was a little surprised when you showed up to my house late. No. Well, now you've really told on yourself.

[A]

Okay. I got lost anyway.

[B]

It was not a problem for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I lead a very relaxed lifestyle.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

But you're holding a. The podcast is called I said no gifts Rachel.

[A]

Right. Yes.

[B]

You showed up with a not only a gift bag, but one that had some very specific instructions from the get go.

[A]

Well, I had to put it in the freezer and can I. Do we talk about the gift now or. No?

[B]

Well, I've got to get it.

[A]

Oh, but we're gonna talk about the gift. Let me just explain something about the gift. Everyone who's listening, I only found out I was doing this today, so now if I'd had more time, I would have, you know, thought more carefully thought of something really cool, Gone to, like, some thrift store and found some cool item, as I'm sure a lot of people do on this. But I had no notice in a town I don't live in. So I walked to the Larchmont area and, you know, I didn't like, there's a lot of cute little stores there.

[B]

Oh, yeah, they've got cute stores.

[A]

You're like, oh, my God, I can't get him a candle. I can't get them a book. These are like those last minute, like, oh, my God, I need a birthday present. Exactly. And then you. I really started thinking about gift giving when this whole thing came up.

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

Gifts I received, gifts I've given, etc. So I think I found something. And then I found another something to supplement the something.

[B]

I mean, first of all, you've given our preface, our past guests, so much credit.

[A]

Oh, really? Okay. I was imagining, like, the range is.

[B]

You know, from garbage to valuable to meaningful.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But it's all over the place. Okay, so it sounds like you've already put in more thought than probably 30% of our case. So you've aced the test. Well, I'll go get this gift out of the freezer. I'll be right back.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

The frozen part is generic. I wonder if you can guess what it is. But let me show you the un. Generic.

[B]

Okay. Should we open it here on the podcast?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let me. Do you want me to do it? I feel like you're. You are.

[A]

Well, this part needs explanation.

[B]

I feel like you're gonna give me a dead mouse. The amount of explaining that's happened.

[A]

Funny thing that happened about this first, this is the main gift.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna open this.

[A]

But it needs. It needs explanation. Once you open it.

[B]

Now it's in a little white bag, ice cold.

[A]

It's a. It's a. It's a fragrance of some sort. It's almost like I can't tell if it's a room spray or a body spray. I mean, tell us what it's called.

[B]

It's the Demeter brand.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Fragrance Library.

[A]

Yes, Fragrance Library.

[B]

And the name of the fragrance is Redhead in Bed.

[A]

Yes. Redhead in Bed. Now, let me explain a few things. One is, I remember these fragrances from, like, I don't know, they've been around a while, and they really cool. Like, the one I really like is tomato. It smells just like a tomato plant.

[B]

Oh, so it's more like a jelly belly situation?

[A]

I think so. Yeah. They have all these. They have, like a delicious apple. It smells just like a golden delicious. They have sugar cookie. Da, da, da. I don't really know what people use these for. But then I was, like, looking through and I was gonna get you tomato, right? But then I was. That was kind of random. And then I. My eye falls upon Redhead in Bed. But the thing is that that was the tester because they didn't have any in the back.

[B]

Oh, I love this.

[A]

Yeah. So it's a little greasy and it looks old and it looks a little bit gone from it because it was a tester. And they're like, you have to have one in the back. This is the whole joke.

[B]

Did they give this to you?

[A]

No.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

That's the thing that I raped.

[B]

Oh, I'm. That is.

[A]

They charged me. They took off two bucks, and I was like, two bucks? This should be at least half price. Or give me. Give the whole thing to me for five bucks.

[B]

God knows how long it's been open.

[A]

They're like, well, it's still pretty full. And I was like, what? And I'm thinking, like, yeah, but it doesn't look gift worthy. But I never like to make a scene or, like, push back on a salesperson because I'm always just like, okay. Because I just don't want to be that person. So I said, okay. So that's my explanation of why you have a greasy bottle of redhead in bed.

[B]

Okay. I want to smell this. Oh, interesting.

[A]

It doesn't even smell that good. I'm gonna be honest.

[B]

It smells very.

[A]

I don't know what it's trying for.

[B]

A very, like, chemical paint.

[A]

That's what I was gonna say. It smells very chemical.

[B]

Right. This is insulting to me.

[A]

It might be because it was in the freezer, but it doesn't smell very.

[B]

Good now that it's on my hand.

[A]

I know. You can throw this away, by the way, if you want.

[B]

I'm not throwing stuff.

[A]

Do you post photos of these?

[B]

Oh, yeah, of course. Of course.

[A]

It doesn't. Like, I. I don't know what I was expecting a redhead in bed to smell like, but.

[B]

Paint thinner.

[A]

Yeah, it's. There's no comparison smell. Right.

[B]

I couldn't tell you what. Notes.

[A]

Yeah, there's no. There's no notes. Except I was gonna say chemical, too. I can't believe that's the word you use.

[B]

Yeah. And then, like, I mean, now that I've touched the bottle.

[A]

Frozen bottle.

[B]

The frozen bottle. There was. There's a smell on my hand, but we can't tell if that's from this or other testers who have been spraying all over.

[A]

It's from that. Because the other ones really smell like, very specific.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I mean, there was one called leather, and I was like, oh, that'd be kind of funny. But who wants that smell?

[B]

This is ideal. This is the most mystifying product I've ever seen.

[A]

I don't. I almost want to look it up online and see what it's trying for.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Let me. I'm actually gonna.

[A]

Redhead in bed, actually.

[B]

Annelise, would you Google that and see what's happening? I mean, anyone in bed. I mean, that's your sweat.

[A]

Yeah. You would expect something a little more musky.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Dare I use the word? Or like, sheets. Even like sheets.

[B]

Like a clean linen.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This just.

[A]

I don't know what.

[B]

It's smells like someone's Been drinking turpentine.

[A]

Exactly. So. Because I didn't really like the smell, and I thought, you're not gonna like this either. This is just a. Surely a gag gift to use the redhead thing. So then I got you just a gift so you wouldn't feel bad in here.

[B]

Should we get into this?

[A]

I mean, we'll keep talking about I'm running the show.

[B]

No, I love.

[A]

No, you run the show.

[B]

You've got the gifts.

[A]

Right. But I had to get you, like, a makeup gift for this.

[B]

Let's take out the makeup gift, and we'll just talk about all of this in general. Okay. This is not going in the trash.

[A]

If you want to. I understand. This is just.

[B]

I'm gonna reach in here and. Is this the thing that needs to be frozen?

[A]

Yes. I mean, that's just.

[B]

Oh. So it's actually ice two ice cream and a nice brand. Jenny.

[A]

Because I was like, is he a chocolate? I'm a chocolate person, but I am, too. Well, Jimmy, text me that back after. I also got a wild, wild berry, lavender, and a chocolate.

[B]

This feels like it might be a good combination of flavors.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Should I go get some spoons?

[A]

That's up to you.

[B]

I'll be right back.

[A]

But I can't say I would say no to the chocolate. Sometimes. Do people bring gifts that they also get to partake in?

[B]

Oh, yeah, of course. Okay. And then I'm gonna spray you in the face with this demeanor. Anneliese, while I'm gone, have you discovered what it smells like? I have.

[A]

So I just want to read this whole thing because it really delights me. Okay. Demeter Redhead in bed by Demeter perfume. If you want to attract compliments from your friends, family, or even total strangers, splash on a little Demeter, the ultra feminine fragrance for women created by Demeter. The citrus undertones of this classic fragrance capture notes of mango, guava, passion fruit, orange liqueur, and lemon juice to bring you a unique blend of exotic aromas. This lasts for hours and won't fade away during a long day at work, strenuous workout at the gym, or night spent dancing at your favorite club.

[B]

Okay, but here we go.

[A]

Wait. I have a question that was specifically about redhead in bed. Yeah. Red Demeter redheaded bed. There was one smell that you said that I could kind of. Wait, will you list the fruits again? Because one of them's got mango, guava, passion fruit, and orange. Orange liqueur and lemon juice.

[B]

That makes sense. Because of the. The alcohol element.

[A]

I could kind of get the. There's an orangey thing.

[B]

And you said, like, once I was told that it's a little starbursty.

[A]

Yeah. What if this was sitting out for like. No, but this. This sold out. I mean, everyone wants this.

[B]

It's a weird thing.

[A]

Maybe a lot of people bought it for their redhead friends. I bet that's why it is also sold out on this [e-mail].

[B]

This might be the last bottle of it.

[A]

Everybody's buying it for the redheads. And then everyone's disappointed when they smell it. Sorry, Demeter. Cause I love the tomato one. It smells like a tomato plant. Smells like a tomato plant. No. Where I just smell it in a store. I would never buy that. No, but it smells just like it. Like, when you're little, you smell a tomato plant.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

That's what, like, takes me back.

[B]

Go get spoons.

[A]

Okay. Do people bring you food gifts a lot? Because they don't. They don't have a idea.

[B]

I love when they do because it gets to go away.

[A]

Oh, yeah. That's what I was thinking. Like, otherwise you have to keep a lot of things.

[B]

Yes. I love a food thing, even if it's a gross food thing.

[A]

Oh, that's a good idea.

[B]

Knowing that I. I can put it in my stomach and a gross. Okay, let's all try this chocolate.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

See how we feel it. This is Jenny's brand ice cream. I mean, it's pretty good. It's wonderful milk chocolate. I. It's a very. It tastes flavor to eat.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

Now, Anneliese, how do you feel about it? Have you even tried it?

[A]

Delicious.

[B]

Delicious. Yeah. This is a hard one to screw up.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

I want to know. I'm concerned about getting this wild berry into a bowl.

[A]

Lavender.

[B]

Just get some.

[A]

I know. I don't care. Do you care if I.

[B]

No, if you're good with it.

[A]

All right. What is a gross food item?

[B]

You've received a gross food item. Let's see. Naomi Ek Perrigan gave me vanilla almond gummy bears, and they tasted like teeth.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

They were. Oh, thank you, Anneliese. Annelise's so sweetly getting me some of this wild berry lavender ice cream. Now, I love a wild berry, but the lavender is where it may be a bridge too far.

[A]

You know what? You can't really taste any lavender.

[B]

Oh, thank you. So it might just be.

[A]

It tastes like redhead in bed. No, I'm just kidding. I'm seeing some common notes here. When it describes says a pop of sweet orange just like red, redhead, and bed.

[B]

I wonder if orange is just an easy flavor to get. So they just put it in everything, and that can be identified by the user, and then everything else can be a lie. Okay. How do you feel about this wild bear?

[A]

I'm not really. I'm not really a fruit ice cream person.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

Annalise is saying, I got it, in case you were.

[B]

That's very.

[A]

But I'm a chocolate.

[B]

I appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Well, first of all, does anyone want more ice cream right now? Okay. I'm gonna put it in the freezer so it's not soup. This has been a very active episode. Feel like I'm running a little store here.

[A]

I know. I made you work for your gifts.

[B]

It's so delicious. The wild berry.

[A]

Wild berry.

[B]

I would never order that at a store.

[A]

No, I mean, I would always use my dessert points on a. I don't mean points like I'm buying something, but my dessert merits. On a chocolate. Yeah. That kind of thing.

[B]

Yeah. When I'm going out for a treat, I just. I'm not ready to experiment.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I know exactly what I want.

[A]

Good point.

[B]

I might try a sample.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think I would even bother being like, oh, will you give me the wild berry lavender?

[A]

No. I know. Me neither.

[B]

I would.

[A]

It doesn't. That was a fail offend.

[B]

But it's.

[A]

I should have assumed a chocolate thing on you. But anyway.

[B]

It's weird when you meet someone who isn't into chocolate.

[A]

I know. I'm suspicious.

[B]

Yeah. You're just like, what has happened?

[A]

I actually. I just spit. Okay. No. But I actually never thought of this more. But when someone says they don't like chocolate, they drop in my esteem completely.

[B]

There's immediate judgment.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It feels like a choice. It feels like they've decided they don't like chocolate.

[A]

It feels like something's wrong with them.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's just such a. It feels like such a universal flavor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you rarely run into someone who picks a different flavor over a chocolate flavor. But I. Maybe they're better than us.

[A]

Maybe we just don't know it. Maybe.

[B]

I. I do feel like I have pretty base taste. I like a peanut butter. I just learned that Italians don't like peanut butter.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

They hate it.

[A]

How did you learn that?

[B]

Another guest on this podcast.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Apparently Italians hiss at peanut butter. They think it's. They really hate that flavor. It's like cats and whatever. Cats hiss at water.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

Do you have a favorite ice cream place you go to?

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, being from Massachusetts.

[B]

Oh, my God. Of course.

[A]

I don't know if you know this, but Massachusetts is, like, for some reason, ice cream fanatic. So I like anywhere with, you know, homemade ice cream. So there's a lot of places on Cape Cod that I like.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And whatever. Just growing up, I don't know. There was ice cream everywhere. I'm boring myself again. But. But I. I'm ripping.

[B]

I want to hear more.

[A]

But I marvel that other places don't have as much ice cream as Massachusetts.

[B]

Right. I went to a big ice cream place in Massachusetts. It's almost like a weird little theme park. It's like Kimball.

[A]

Kimball Farms.

[B]

Kimball Farms, Yes. Oh, I've been there.

[A]

I think I've only been there once.

[B]

And I remember being dazzled by it.

[A]

Very good.

[B]

They also had, like, go karts. I wasn't entirely sure what the operation was, but it must have started with ice cream.

[A]

What were you doing there?

[B]

I was visiting friends living in Boston.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I must have read about.

[A]

I didn't know if you were gonna be like, I was writing on a. Blah, blah, blah. Okay.

[B]

On an ice cream park.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

But, yeah, I remember being very good ice cream, but also being confused by people in Massachusetts call it a milk. What? I know as a frap.

[A]

A frap? Yeah.

[B]

Which makes no sense at all to me.

[A]

That's a. I didn't even know that was a Massachusetts word.

[B]

But they still have a milkshake. Yeah, but it's not.

[A]

It's the same. It's the same thing. A milkshake is a frappe.

[B]

Yeah, but in Massachusetts, don't. If you order a milkshake, isn't it, like a thick thing that you can't drink?

[A]

Yeah, probably.

[B]

And then a frap is like. Because I like to drink the ice cream. I need it as easy as possible to consume.

[A]

I don't know. I thought they were the same, but I don't know.

[B]

Yeah. I remember being a little thrown in. Frap feels like such a to do about the dessert. Frap. Until I had learned that about Massachusetts, I thought it was a word basically that Starbucks had invented.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

But I guess that's the frappuccino, which. It's all a little confusing. They're suspicious there's something going on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

There's something going on. But you like a Cape Cod ice cream. Ultimately. That's good to know.

[A]

Cape Cod. Cape Cod and skiing. Yes.

[B]

We're trying to Build a character for.

[A]

You as the Mayflower. Yes.

[B]

Anyway, snob. Rachel Drake.

[A]

Snob. Yes. Ice cream snob.

[B]

Utah's very ice cream focused too. It is Utah. I mean, because most people don't drink or do anything like that. So like, the entertainment options are more family friendly.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So ice cream. Jello. Going to the movies.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

So I feel like I've had some pretty good ice cream. I don't know. But now we've got like places like Jenny's, which It's literally like $40 for an ice cream cone.

[A]

Oh. You know what makes me really sad? When you go to get an ice cream cone and it's like a tiny little golf ball and it makes it like. I'm not kidding, it like breaks my heart. Like when they hand you the tiny golf ball, I'm like, you just remind me. Now, I might make you cut this because it makes me sound super pathetic, but one time I was in la, like when I'm in la, like, I'm not at home, right? So I'm like, it can get a little lonely sometimes. So I'm staying in this hotel. And so this is the saddest, stupidest story. But so I decide like, and you. Isn't it pretty rare? Like you go get an ice. Come by yourself? Like that alone is like a freaking ser.

[B]

Trash.

[A]

That's a sad activity, right?

[B]

Like leave my lifestyle alive.

[A]

But ice cream is social. Like you're going out with a group with your kid, whatever. But I'm like, I. I'm like, I'm gonna go down the street and get an ice cream cone because I deserve it and I'm sad. So anyway, like, go down to this ice cream place. I think it's called Salt and Straw. Not to bust them out.

[B]

I like salt and straw.

[A]

And if a free coupon should arrive after this story, I'm not gonna be sad about it. But anyway, so. So Sal is like. It's kind of like high up, very fancy. I've never been, but it got like really good ratings and all that. Cuz I looked it up afterwards to know.

[B]

To leave a horrible Yelp review.

[A]

I'm revealing this about myself. No, but.

[B]

So we're not cutting this. There's no way I'm. Sue me.

[A]

So I walk down the hill to the salt and straw. Okay. And I order my sad ice cream. And it arrives and she hands it over and it was the smallest ice cream scoop you've ever seen in your life. Okay. It like, my heart sank. Okay. So it was so small that Like, I realized if I'd been with someone else, I would have had the nerve to be like, wow, that's. Is that it? Like, I would have said, but because I was by myself, I just took it. Like a sad Ziggy character or something. I just took the ice cream, and I was, like, visibly shaken. So then I'm walking back up to my. My hotel with myself. Like, I'm not kidding. It was, like, done in three bites. The experience lasted, like, 40 seconds. And then I walked back to my hotel, and then I had.

[B]

This is.

[A]

This is where the story gets. It's even more embarrassing. So then I'm like, maybe they. Maybe they're really known, really small portions. So I look it up on Yelp, right? Either way, I'm walking back to the hotel. The ice cream is long gone. After, like, 10 steps of walking, I'm already looking, and I look up, thinking I'm gonna see that the portions are really small. But in the reviews, it says that they're huge. In the reviews, it's like, oh, my gosh. A small is like a double large at this place. Then I find out, like, what. I was the exception. What happened? Like, everyone's talking about how large the scoops are in this place, and I felt like, oh, my God. Anyway, it was like, I'm still obviously mad about it, even though it was, like, four years ago.

[B]

Salt and straw owes you.

[A]

Salt and straw owes you. You owe me, like, a double scoop for free.

[B]

A full box of scoop.

[A]

Because not only did you rip me off, but also you created an emotional experience that I'm still reliving four years later on a podcast over an ice cream transaction. So anyway, that is my embarrassing, pathos laden story.

[B]

Oh, my God, that to me.

[A]

But, you know, I feel like I got it out. That was a cathartic release of that feeling.

[B]

Fireworks. Emotional fireworks, yes. Emotional fireworks, no. At that moment, I empathize with you so much in the moment of them handing you the small and you're alone, there's nothing you can do. You can't say, well, I'd like some more. And then this teenager's like, oh, what are you, a pig? It's like, no, you gave me a tiny thing.

[A]

I cannot tell you how small this thing was. It, like, barely even, like, surfaced over the cone.

[B]

Unacceptable.

[A]

It was like the smallest ice cream ever. So anyway, whenever they hand you, like, a. You know.

[B]

Well, while you were telling the story, I was like, because I've always had. And this is. This is not an advertisement for salt and Straw. But they've always given me a normal scoop of ice cream. But Jenny's. I've had some of these situations. Not always.

[A]

I've never been to Jenny's before.

[B]

Delicious ice cream. Obviously.

[A]

Never been. But occasionally a little sweet for me, but go on. I'm a connoisseur. Okay. Sorry. Go on. I probably can't back.

[B]

Well, I wasn't gonna say anything, but you gave it to me. It is a little sweet.

[A]

Do you think it's a little. It needs a little.

[B]

Like you need a break.

[A]

Yeah. It needs to kick a little of the sugar out.

[B]

Yes. Or like a piece of dark chocolate in there or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My tolerance for sweetness has gone way down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The desserts I'm eating are frequently. Basically charcoal.

[A]

I should have gotten you the salted caramel. That was the flavor I almost got.

[B]

Ice cream needs that sort of thing. I'm dumping salt on chocolate ice cream at this point. Delicious.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Sorry.

[B]

But salt and straw. Whoever was in charge of your ice cream cone dropped the ball.

[A]

They sure did.

[B]

I hope the company is looking into that transaction right now. Going through their records.

[A]

Just freaking literally four years ago.

[B]

I bet. I bet they have your location.

[A]

Heads need to roll at Sun Straw West Hollywood.

[B]

If they don't know about that transaction, then Ancestry.com does.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wow. That's. I. But I am going to stand up and say you should. Anyone should be able to go get an ice cream alone.

[A]

That. That's true. It's just something I don't.

[B]

I support you.

[A]

I don't do that often.

[B]

It's a less.

[A]

I learned my lesson. There's something like sad about it. I don't know. That's judging me.

[B]

Well, it is a situation. You're normally still social.

[A]

You should be social.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

I'll go to a restaurant by myself. I'm like in another town. Whatever. Go to a movie. I don't. I don't have anything but something about buying an ice cream cone by yourself.

[B]

I think it's because it's unnecessary.

[A]

It's something about. It's like, I deserve a treat. It's like something like. Something like feels like oogie about it. Like I'm gonna treat myself to an ice cream cone.

[B]

But you were. I. I feel like you're a hero in that situation. Everyone's saying, oh, that person.

[A]

No one's been there.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'm helping people by telling this story.

[B]

Yes. Be proud about going to sweet places alone. Ultimately, the. Everyone will thank you.

[A]

But also everyone probably can relate to the small cone sadness.

[B]

Oh, my God, it's such a rip off. You should be able to enjoy an ice cream cone for at least 10 minutes.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

I really take my time.

[A]

I can't believe I revealed that about myself. You're really the Barbara Walters of the podcast.

[B]

I get the darkest things out of people. A lot of that's gonna have to beeped out. That was a horrible story. No, I appreciate you telling that. And eating alone is a different thing, I guess, because, well, sometimes you're just.

[A]

Like, you got to eat on the road, whatever.

[B]

Right. And I'll have a book or whatever. I'm like, I'm eating dinner. Leave me alone.

[A]

It's a prop. Let's face it.

[B]

It's a.

[A]

The book is just there to let people know you're okay with this.

[B]

Just blank pages.

[A]

I'm taking some me time. I'm gonna treat myself. And this is my me time. This is my reading time.

[B]

I was told to do this by the artist's way.

[A]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[B]

I just want everyone to always assume I'm doing the artist's way.

[A]

Oh, hilarious.

[B]

And movies I actually think everyone should go to alone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I don't mind that. What are you.

[A]

Although I must admit, I don't really go to movies anyway.

[B]

You're done with the movies?

[A]

Well, no, I mean, like, I watch them at home or. It's been a while since I've gone to a movie theater. I feel bad about that.

[B]

Contributing to Hollywood's demise.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I need the movies to keep going and stuff.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I've sort of missed that experience.

[B]

Well, once you get into the rhythm of not going, it's hard to break out of that. Yeah, I. I'm currently in a lull. You just have to force yourself one time and then you're back at the movies and then there's a drought of good ones and then you're back into it.

[A]

But I have memories of when I lived in Chicago. Like there were all these little art movie houses and remember, like, you'd find that indie movie and like, you, let's go see this on Friday night. Like, that was something cool about it.

[B]

And it felt like, like you had really like found something and you were doing the work to enjoy this.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can't be distracted.

[B]

Right. And it was a limited time to see it. You weren't going to be able to just see it in the billion choices of junk.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah. It feels like that's gone away. So many things have Gone away just.

[A]

Took a sad turn.

[B]

Well, this podcast is a roller coaster.

[A]

I'm feeling so many emotions.

[B]

But I. Yeah, I love going to. And this is a trick I do at the movies now is if the movie's three hours long, I only go to an hour and a half of it. What? And this gives you a new level of freedom with the movies.

[A]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. What movie are we talking? This is real.

[B]

This has happened several times.

[A]

Like, on purpose.

[B]

On purpose. It's my new philosophy. It feels incredible. I've talked about it on this podcast a few times, but.

[A]

So give me an example of a three hour movie.

[B]

Avatar.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Hour and a half in, I thought, I know everything I need to know about this movie. I can go home. I've experienced whatever this is. My apologies to Jim Cameron and a submarine number two, John Wick four, which I enjoy.

[A]

Seen any of those.

[B]

But it's literally three hours of fighting. And so after an hour and a half of fighting, I thought, I've seen enough people get thrown downstairs. I can probably go home.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Bo is Afraid, which is the Ari Aster movie with Joaquin Phoenix, which I enjoyed enough.

[A]

What's it called?

[B]

Bo is Afraid.

[A]

Never even heard of it.

[B]

I enjoyed enough, but it was just three hours. I couldn't do it. I can't sit there that long.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I went home. And when you leave an hour and a half in, it's like you broke out of jail. Even if you're enjoying the movie.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You can go around the mall and look at stores. Everyone assumes you're still trapped in the theater. But no, this is your secret. Hour and a half. That you can kind of just live your life.

[A]

I have to say, like, if I see three hours on a movie, I don't really watch it.

[B]

Oh, you're zoning out.

[A]

I don't. Okay, so I don't make myself watch Oscar movies anymore. That's the gift I've given to myself.

[B]

What an amazing life achievement.

[A]

I mean, what I mean is, like, back in the day, I'd try to see every. I'm not a voter or anything. I don't mean that. I just mean as a civilian that I used to, like, try to make myself. Or if it was like the action hero movie that everyone's saying, I'd go. But like, then I was like, wait a minute. I don't like these movies. I don't like Action Hero. I will not see war movies because they make me too bummed out and like heavy dramas. I just don't like it. So I've given myself a pass.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I don't see any of those.

[B]

That's really taking ownership.

[A]

I'm sorry for not supporting Hollywood in that way, but I like comedies.

[B]

You're watching comedies.

[A]

I'm watching comedies.

[B]

You're watching light fair and you're enjoying yourself. You're not subjecting yourself to thing. Yeah, I'm still very much in a. Of wanting to be part of, like, to be able to comment for two minutes during dinner.

[A]

That's a good point. But I can't comment on a lot of those kind of things.

[B]

Yeah, you're basically silent at every dinner at this point, people are saying, stop inviting Rachel. She can't talk about the movies.

[A]

That's what I bring up. You guys heard of salt and straw? Oh, my. Okay. Sorry.

[B]

No, I think salt straw needs to be.

[A]

I didn't mean to go back.

[B]

Put on blast. We've got these. It's probably the leading company right now, and somebody's got to take them down a peg. These companies need to know.

[A]

Didn't mean to go back to Zod and stuff. No, they're kind of a callback, ladies and gentlemen. That's a comedy technique. Okay, sorry, sorry. Go ahead. About Saving Private Ryan. Okay.

[B]

So you love Tom Hanks as an actor.

[A]

Yes, I do. I know that, but I will.

[B]

Saving Private Ryan. Yeah, when I said that, I was like, oh, no, he's the lead.

[A]

He's the lead. Yeah, but I've never seen it.

[B]

Yeah, I haven't seen it either. Private Ryan.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Well, I think we should play a game.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.

[A]

I listen to this game. I like this game.

[B]

Oh, good, good. I need a number between 1 and 10 from you.

[A]

Okay. 5.

[B]

Okay. I have to do calculating right now. I have to get our game pieces.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So you have the mic. You can recommend, promote. Do whatever you want. Just promote something, Rachel.

[A]

Oh, promote something. Let's see. Things have been pretty slow. So am I promoting something about myself or something in general about yourself?

[B]

You have a podcast. Let's hear about that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah, I have a podcast. I have a podcast, too, Bridger. I just started it, though, a little more recently than you. I should be taking notes about tricks of the trade.

[B]

Do not take notes from me.

[A]

Well, you've been going. You've been doing this for four years, I think. Sorry, I'm supposed to be talking solely.

[B]

Four years.

[A]

Four years.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay, so I. I started mine in October. Well, whatever it's been like eight months, right? It's called. Should I talk about it? Yes. Okay. It's called what if I was like.

[B]

No, we've run out of time. Don't name it.

[A]

It's called Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch. And it's stories of like. Like the unexplained. So it could be ghost stories, psychic phenomena, weird, eerie things that have. Or it could be like. Like Amy Poehler came on. She doesn't really believe in any of this stuff, so she talked about the Enneagram personality test. So it could be like anything. Woo woo. Anything that's like, oh, I don't want to be all woo woo. But I went and had my tea leaves read.

[B]

Like, it could be crystal healing.

[A]

Yeah. Because I sort of am into all that stuff. I mean, I'm into the stories around it. I'm not a truly woo Woo person, but every so often I hear a ghost story. I'm like, o, oh, wow. Maybe we don't know what happens after death. I don't know. Anyway, but sorry, I didn't mean to bring up the D word, but. But no, like. So there's been really cool stories on there, and if you have one. I don't know.

[B]

I've got to. Come on.

[A]

Do you have a story?

[B]

I do have one. It's more of a sweet story. I've told it to somebody before, but it's. It's a nice story. And I have. I have conflicting feelings about all.

[A]

So do I. And that's why I'm not like a full tilt, like, like 100% believer. But when you listen to a bunch of these stories, you're like, huh?

[B]

Yeah. Because people were like, this happened to me.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. That's all people coming on saying. And it could be someone like, whoever. I don't know. Seth Meyers did a Tina Fey did it. Or it could be like, the mom from my son's school who has this crazy ghost story she was telling me at field day, and I was like, will you come on the podcast? So she has a great story. So it's. It's all. It's all people.

[B]

And you have stories, right?

[A]

I have. I have a ghost story that happened in la and I have a crazy psychic story, too. So those are. Whatever. I pepper my own little stories throughout.

[B]

As you should. Yes.

[A]

So anyway, that's.

[B]

It's Rachel Dredge.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Everyone go listen to that podcast. Rachel's wonderful. And ghosts are incredible.

[A]

They're wonderful.

[B]

This is how we play gift or a curse.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm going to name three things. You're going to tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And there's a good chance you could fail. And you've. You know, you've had some sadness already on this podcast. We don't want to watch you walk away a failure. So be very careful.

[A]

Okay. Now, do I try to match what I think you're gonna say or.

[B]

You do whatever you want.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[B]

Gift or a curse? This is a. Oh, actually, I. I do need to. Quickly. During the live show, we used some listener suggestions, and I simply didn't thank the people who had sent them in. We had an Ellen who suggested the window seat on an airplane. We had Mark who suggested cash. And then this says tomatoes and guacamole unknown, which is kind of mysterious, but. Okay, let's get into this. Victoria has suggested gift or a curse. People who walk dogs on a leash. That fastens around their waist.

[A]

Fastens around the walker. The person's waist.

[B]

Yeah. It's kind of like a belt.

[A]

And then there's a. I've never seen that even. I guess I'm gonna say curse because I don't get why you're not just holding it with your hand. But unless you A limitation. Okay. I'm gonna say curse because I don't get it.

[B]

It's a curse. It makes it. I. I don't know what we're doing. Do you need both hand? What do you need both hands for? Are you making pizza? I. I don't understand.

[A]

I've never. Is that an LA thing?

[B]

I've actually never seen this in person. When this person sent this in, I obviously googled it to get my eyes on this product. And it seems to be at least one person in a stock photo has done it, so. But I guess.

[A]

I guess it's good if you're dealing with, like, groceries, phone.

[B]

Fighting off attackers.

[A]

Fighting off attackers. The doggy bag thing, whatever. So maybe it's. But I'm just gonna say that's weird.

[B]

It's different.

[A]

So it's Conform with what everyone else does. That's a curse.

[B]

No. One thing about it to me is I. I get a little. I love dogs more than anything, but people who are too comfortable with their dog, interacting with other people, when they just assume everyone is comfortable with their dog. I like you think about other people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm sure your dog's lovely, but maybe not everyone's comfortable with it running around your waist, licking them.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

So when you have the dog on a leash with your hand, I feel like there's a little bit more control there. And. Yeah. I just don't understand this product. We should stop selling it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Curse.

[A]

Curse.

[B]

Very good. Number two. This is from a listener named Diego. Gift or a curse? Yellow popsicles.

[A]

Curse.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because I don't like lemon as a popsicle flavor.

[B]

You're not into a lemon flavor anything?

[A]

Well, what else would a yellow pop? I guess it could be pineapple if you got one. No, I'm gonna say curse. Why? What do you say? You say curse.

[B]

I've only ever known them to be banana, which is the worst flavor of anything.

[A]

Oh, now I know what you mean. Those ice cream truck banana ones.

[B]

No, they have the regular traditional popsicle in a yellow. The ones I remember from a kid, there was a blue, red, red, yellow, orange, and brown.

[A]

Well, you're reminding me that the creamy yellow one.

[B]

Is that a cream?

[A]

That was kind of good. I don't know.

[B]

But a banana flavored regular popsicle? Absolutely. The worst flavor.

[A]

Okay, yeah. You're gonna want a red or a purple.

[B]

Oh, purple.

[A]

Purple.

[B]

Delicious. A good grape flavor.

[A]

I'm so grape.

[B]

I can't do a root beer. No.

[A]

Can't stand root beer.

[B]

Awful. Oh, this makes me so happy.

[A]

Be excised from the community. Root beer flavor. I don't care if it's a soda. I don't care if it's a popsicle or a candy. No.

[B]

To me, it just tastes like years in boy Scouts and there was always a root beer float.

[A]

Root beer float.

[B]

Awful. No, thank you.

[A]

Know what else? Here's another root beer I have tr. Haven't you, like, tried to like root beer? Like, it's the thing. Like, maybe I like root beer. Root beer float looks good. Maybe I like this. And you're like, like. Nope.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Still not going to cut it.

[B]

Nope. It's a. It's a treat that.

[A]

You talking a lot about desserts on this?

[B]

Yeah, this is the dessert. Really set the tone.

[A]

I set the tone.

[B]

Redheads and desserts.

[A]

Red head and bed. Okay.

[B]

Okay. Very good. You've got two so far.

[A]

I'm really getting overly passionate about these. Okay, sorry. Go on.

[B]

All right, I'll try to be stoic.

[A]

On this next one and not so impassioned.

[B]

Okay, this third one is from a listener named Susie. Gift or a curse? Rat tail hairstyle.

[A]

I mean, I might be out of it and too old to answer this, but I'M gonna say curse. Maybe it's come back around and it's cool now, but I just think of that as curse. I don't know. What do you say?

[B]

Oh, Rachel, you played the game so well until now.

[A]

Why?

[B]

It's a, it's a gift.

[A]

It's a gift.

[B]

I don't know that it's ever been in style, but it's always been interesting to look at.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

We all, it's a shock.

[A]

It says a lot about the wearer.

[B]

Yes. You almost immediately know what's happening in that person's life. You see a lot of kids with rat tails.

[A]

I was just about to say that we're totally on the same wavelength. I was gonna say when I picture I'm picturing a little kid. Little like hey, like a little. You can't see me right now, but I'm like, hey, with a little tank top. Causing trouble completely.

[B]

That's an interesting one because usually the rat tailed child doesn't have a rat tailed parent. So the parents like, well, let's get one on the kid.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I don't know. When do you decide to start growing your child's rat tail?

[A]

I haven't seen one in a really long time though.

[B]

I feel like I see.

[A]

That's because I live in New York.

[B]

You probably don't see as many rat tails.

[A]

The rat tails we see are the real thing. It's cheesy, but no, I haven't seen a rat. I haven't seen a rat, rat tail in a really long time. Have you?

[B]

I, I, at least within the last five to six years.

[A]

You know where I feel like you'd see a lot of them? Disney World.

[B]

Oh my God. Of course.

[A]

I bet, I bet if we went to Disney. I haven't been to Disneyland ever.

[B]

Oh, you've never been.

[A]

But I bet if I went to Disney World I could spot. It would be like a scavenger hunt. I bet I could find three rat tails at Disney World within three hours.

[B]

I bet like in Epcot you're surrounded by rat tails.

[A]

Yeah, I bet so.

[B]

But I love to see them. I support them. I don't know that I would ever have one myself.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's an interesting one because it's really hidden back there, there. So you can kind of be walking towards someone.

[A]

Secret personality trait.

[B]

The moment you turn around you're like, oh, you've been interacting with someone with a rat and that I love. So it's a gift.

[A]

That's. That's true. Okay.

[B]

But you got two out of three. I got two out of three, which is not bad.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Two out of three is not a failure. I don't want you to feel like a failure in this moment.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

You did not fail.

[A]

Okay. And you. You sort of talked me around to the rat till.

[B]

Okay. And I'm glad I've converted somebody.

[A]

You did.

[B]

Okay. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People write into. I said no gifts. Gmail.com People are begging for answers and all sorts of things in their lives. And just out of kind of the generosity of my heart, I help. Will you help me answer a question?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. This and now this is one that we tried reading in the live show and were interrupted artificially by something I thought of.

[A]

Can I ask, where was the live show?

[B]

It was a Dynasty typewriter.

[A]

Oh, here in.

[B]

Yeah, right here in la. And we're going to try to do more soon. It was very fun.

[A]

Oh, cool. Okay, sorry. Interjection.

[B]

Okay. But this one, we've got to get back to the question because I stopped reading it at the show.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is. Dear Bridger Anneliese, an illustrious guest. I hope you are all well. The house dry, the backyard mostly tranquil, the flowers watered, etc. I'm emailing you from the Chicago suburbs with a question about a situation I encountered recently. I bought a birthday gift for my sister in law and scored a great sale on some clothes. I wasn't sure if I could remove the markdown sticker without voiding the return, so I left it on. It is now several weeks later and something about it isn't sitting right with me. How should I do things next time? I obviously think my sister in law deserves full price, but at that. But at this point in my life, I gotta shop the sales. What do I do next time? Time Bridger, I hope you were properly. Oh, this is just a little in between. I hope you were scandalized by your guest's unwanted gift. And guest. I can't wait to consume whatever media you're promoting. You've got a new listener to woo woo already. Thank you so much for taking my letter and have a good day. And that's from Bo. Oh, interesting that we talked about. Bo is afraid. Everything is connected, Rachel. Everything is connected.

[A]

Bo is afraid of Mark Jones. Okay, so wait, here's what I'm not getting. Beau left the price tag on the gift.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

See? No. So Beau, you can rip the price tag off and get like some sort of gift receipt. Right.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I Mean, Yeah, I'm getting a feeling.

[B]

That Bo is not familiar with modern retail.

[A]

Or Bo. I was thinking maybe Bo is very young.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I don't know, like hitched a ride, stuff on sale, but then wrote a.

[A]

Beautiful email that has a rat tail.

[B]

Bo does have a rat tail.

[A]

No, no, I'm thinking. No, I'm thinking maybe if Beau is young and Beau doesn't know that, then you don't. You don't have to leave the actual price tag on the clothes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That would make sense to me.

[B]

What I'm getting is Beau is excusing bad behavior. Beau knew what he was doing. He knew the sister in law would be offended when she saw that he had bought her markdown merchandise. And now he's back to pedaling. So there's no excuse. He should have taken it off. This is bad behavior.

[A]

But. But here's one thing. What about when you give a gift with the price tag, you can rip off the little actual number. I'm sure Bo name the T. Really?

[B]

Bo is after his sister in law. Just starting to stir up family drama, I imagine. I mean, you obviously make some good points about gift giving. Some very basic concepts. And if Beau doesn't know these things, then I've got a. A listener that needs to rethink a lot. All right, but.

[A]

So the sister in law never thanked Beau.

[B]

Yeah, it sounds like there's no thank you.

[A]

Rose worried he committed a faux pas. A faux pas, if you will. So. But yeah, that kind of. That kind of sucks. Like, she should have thanked him anyway, even if she thought it was tacky.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because Bo did get a gift, money.

[B]

Was spent, thought was cool.

[A]

It's kind of hard to get clothes for people too, because it's hard to match their styles. This is another interesting thing if you don't know them.

[B]

I would never buy my sister in law clothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now we're getting a, you know, a.

[A]

Portrait of its own podcast.

[B]

Yeah, that needs to really be unraveled. Beau is buying discount clothing for his sister in law.

[A]

Now, was it a scarf? Fine. Was it a dress?

[B]

Was it like a.

[A]

Beau, we need to talk.

[B]

Yeah. Micro mini. You know, what is Beau dressing his sister in law up in?

[A]

Or even. Maybe it's not even her style.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But the sister in law still should thank him.

[B]

It was something given to her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like Beau should stop giving her.

[A]

I feel like Bo is a teen.

[B]

Beau may be a teen with.

[A]

As you said, if Bo isn't a teen, then Beau is very insulted right now. I Don't know.

[B]

Beau's freaking out. Bo turned off the podcast.

[A]

Maybe early 20s. Maybe Bo's early 20s.

[B]

Early 20s. It does seem like they've got to shop the sales. So.

[A]

It'S okay to shop the sales.

[B]

I. I encourage shopping.

[A]

Don't leave the price tag on.

[B]

Never pay retail.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's what I say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially when you're buying sister in law.

[A]

Or if you're buying a sample item or you should not be paying. Did you hear that store that sold me the sample size?

[B]

$2 off. That's so offensive. And that's such a random number.

[A]

It really is.

[B]

It should have been a half.

[A]

It really is. And if you. Well, you'll see this bottle, ladies and gentlemen and everybody, a lot of it. You're gonna see that it's. The label is oily. Anyway, sorry. I'm not trying to sway off of Beau and Beau's gifting issues.

[B]

I feel like your main mission on this episode has been to shut down everything on Larchmont. All of these boutiques.

[A]

I know. Maybe we can't say the name of it, because if I'm going to complain this much about it.

[B]

No, it's a great store.

[A]

It is a great store.

[B]

Everyone shops. But I don't want to.

[A]

I don't want to complain publicly about them.

[B]

In the $2 discount, we'll beep out their name. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, beep out their name.

[B]

We'll beep out their name, but we won't be about the street they're on. Bo, go to a store with some fragrances, find the tester, get a discount, fill it up with water.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And now no one knows anything better.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or rubbing alcohol. Whatever liquid you have might be better nearby. Right.

[A]

Than the redhead and bed and the.

[B]

Sister in law will go crazy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Bo, don't write back in. Okay. Closing up the email. Rachel. What? You've brought such beautiful gifts to the podcast.

[A]

Thank you. I mean, it's a pleasure.

[B]

I scream that I will, of course, eat. I. I will eat the chocolate one. The other one's going to be there until, like, we have another pandemic and the grocery store's out.

[A]

I know. I was getting that sense right after I bought it, too.

[B]

But we challenged ourselves by buying it. We branched out and learned that we still don't like that type of ice cream.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which is important to know about yourself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially if you're sending a loan. In an ice cream store, you need to know. You should be as informed as possible, because you don't want a bad you.

[A]

Don'T want to go wrong, right?

[B]

Thank you so much for being here.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

That's such a wonderful time and listener. The podcast is over. We're coming to a halt. The audio will end. Your life will continue. You. You're gonna have a very productive day. I can feel it. I love you. Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Anneliese Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cotner. The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at isaidnogifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

[A]

When I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no gifts. Your presence is present enough and I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me.

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