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Bridger Weiniger
A hand clapper? A high fiver?
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Bridger Weiniger
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Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
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Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
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Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
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Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
Made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed.
Charles Rogers
I said no gifts.
Bridger Weiniger
Your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me? Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're in the backyard. We haven't been in the backyard in a minute, which feels nice. Although it's April and it's about 80 degrees and I'm sweating already. What's going on? What's going on? I've started watching Little House on the Prairie two episodes in. I truly don't know why the Ingalls family hasn't killed themselves. It's the things these people are going through. It's just too much for me. But I'm gonna continue. See if it ends up worth them living through the prairie. I don't know what else. We've got the Chicago show coming up May 23rd, the Den Theater. Google it. Go to our Instagram, find a way to the website. Buy a ticket. We're going to have a fantastic time. We've talked about the Little House on the Prairie. Little House on the Prairie. It's not the. I'm new to the program. I think that's about it. I think, you know, I'm obviously already just kind of rambling here. The school bell is ringing. The children are scream. Let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. It's Charles Rogers.
Charles Rogers
Thank you for having me, Charles.
Bridger Weiniger
Welcome to. I said no gifts.
Charles Rogers
Thank you. I mean, the bell rang. I have to get to class. It's been nice.
Bridger Weiniger
You've been itching to get back to school.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I had lunch. I have to go.
Bridger Weiniger
The bell tolling over there. The whole. The school feels like they're there for about two days a week. I don't know what the modern elementary school schedule is.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. It's just they're all like artisan parents and their children and they're like, we go to Monday Friday school.
Bridger Weiniger
I honestly think that might be what's going on because I cannot track when the bell will ring. They'll be gone for months.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And not during the summer.
Charles Rogers
I kind of can't handle seeing any of it. Like, I do want kids one day. I firmly do believe that in my heart of hearts. But then I'll be like, these east side school. I'll see in the cafe in the morning. Parents coming in with their children. They all know each other. And I'm like, these people, they're doing nothing wrong, but, like, they need to burn it out. Like, there's nothing wrong with them. It's actually like the best case scenario. American in a lot of ways. And it's like something about it. I'm like, I can't handle these people being alone.
Bridger Weiniger
There's something very grating about the fact that they even have time to get to the coffee shop. They should be stressed.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. And they shouldn't know each other.
Bridger Weiniger
No, no, no, no.
Charles Rogers
They shouldn't be trading tips.
Bridger Weiniger
They should be deeply on.
Charles Rogers
They're singing like, hot to go to their children. Like all these.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. When I see parents pushing their kids around in strollers around here, there's something.
Charles Rogers
About it where I'm like, strollers are satanic.
Bridger Weiniger
This feels bad.
Charles Rogers
Strollers are the been her of stroller culture is. It's so patriarchal, the way in which, like, families think that plastic vehicles have precedence over human lives.
Bridger Weiniger
People get very touchy about it.
Charles Rogers
They do because they have all their. Their stuff every day in them and that their stuff. They identify with their stuff.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, speaking of this, I was. I Was in Silverlake recently at Korean place, like a Korean fast foodish place. And I was ordering my food and I saw a parent, that kind of parent we're talking about. And I thought, eating with his son. I just thought, this asshole parent.
Charles Rogers
Well, a cultural experience.
Bridger Weiniger
Who does he think he is with his beard and his stupid clothes?
Charles Rogers
It's me.
Bridger Weiniger
And then we'll probably beep this. But it was okay.
Charles Rogers
Well, that's. That is who you beep or not. That is who you cast as that character no matter what. Like, that's so funny.
Bridger Weiniger
I was shocked. I felt all sorts of emotions. And then I thought, well, he's being a good parent. What is my problem?
Charles Rogers
Right. And then it's also like, well, what's my career?
Bridger Weiniger
I think there's a lot of. There's a lot of just jealousy that somebody is able to not only manage their own life, but the life of a child. Maybe multiple children.
Charles Rogers
It's interesting. It's just having children. I've been thinking about it a lot because I'm getting more real about, you know, planting seeds for tomorrow, perhaps.
Bridger Weiniger
Of course. Sure.
Charles Rogers
And there is just something inherently Republican. Please don't play this at the McCarthy trials. That inevitably happen in two years. But, like, there is something Republican about a family. Like, it's just like, instantly, I hate it. Like, but I want it.
Bridger Weiniger
But how many kids do you think you'd want?
Charles Rogers
I want two.
Bridger Weiniger
Two?
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Two feels like a decent number.
Charles Rogers
I want a boy and a girl because I'm half man, half woman. I don't know how to speak to both.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you have siblings?
Charles Rogers
No.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, wow. Wow. I've always wondered about the only child.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. It's amazing. It's a universal.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, anytime I'm home for the holidays or whatever, and I'm experiencing. And I love my parents, but, you know, experiencing their unique behavior sometimes.
Charles Rogers
And you have a lot because you're Mormon.
Bridger Weiniger
I have three siblings, which four children is kind of the baseline for a Mormon family. So we're like, you're losers. We're losers.
Charles Rogers
We're poor.
Bridger Weiniger
My parents just couldn't deal with it. They're weak. They're ultimately weak.
Charles Rogers
Smart.
Bridger Weiniger
But I'm always like, I'm so glad I have another. I have other people in my life who understand this exact behavior. I like to share this experience. Not to brag.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I just feel like I could not possibly begin to explain exactly what it is to another person.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
And so it's like, I'm glad that I can just sit here in silence with the sibling and be like, we know we're witnessing this, right?
Charles Rogers
So you just sit in silence with your siblings.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, her family is very quiet. My family is.
Charles Rogers
I'd be talking. If I had siblings, I think we'd be talking.
Bridger Weiniger
No, you'd be very quiet. You'd hate each other.
Charles Rogers
It is one thing that's really nice about not having siblings is that, like, as is my family, my dad's gone to heaven, as you would say. Let me know if I am speaking your language or not.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, now I'm starting to understand.
Charles Rogers
Just want you to feel safe. But like, my. My parents, I think as characters I can frame as cool.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure.
Charles Rogers
But then if you have one sibling that suddenly not cool, the whole branding's off. Oh, I'm just so glad that I never had to be like. And then my. My, like, weird realtor. Nothing against realtors, but, like, just something that is just, like, doesn't uphold the image I'm trying to do.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, you're really in control of the entire brand.
Charles Rogers
Nothing against realtors.
Bridger Weiniger
We love our realtors. We love some of them. I'm sure some of them are complete psychos.
Charles Rogers
That's true.
Bridger Weiniger
My.
Charles Rogers
That's fair.
Bridger Weiniger
When I bought this house and bless this woman, but she was out of control. And it was during COVID refused to wear a mask. Just would put a little piece of tulle over her face, you know, which is so funny. It was like a scarf made of very thin, you know, tulle. Probably worse than not wearing anything at all.
Charles Rogers
Probably how Covid started.
Bridger Weiniger
An infected piece of tool blows off in the wind, gets caught in someone's throat.
Charles Rogers
Lab created tool.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, she was someone who was like, she had. The 90s were big for her.
Charles Rogers
She probably Candace Cameron Burr.
Bridger Weiniger
We love our Candace Cameron.
Charles Rogers
Some of them. Some of them are psycho. Some of them are normal.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, for Candace and Kirk to become.
Charles Rogers
A reality team, that could still be in the cards.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that that probably is definitely in the cards.
Charles Rogers
She now not to jump around, but she now there's a Christian network coming.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, is she in charge that we're.
Charles Rogers
All going to work for soon?
Bridger Weiniger
Honestly, that and the Chick Fil a network.
Charles Rogers
I know she's in charge, but there's like four face. Two of them I don't. I have no context for. One of them is her, and then another one is Mario Lopez. And I saw Mario really somewhere, like, in an airport or something. And I was like, what is this called? Like, it's also, like, under the radar. Like, it's not Like Faith tv. It's something like, you know, like Cherish or just some more. It's more family vision.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Charles Rogers
Bloodshed. I think it's called the Great American Family. Is it. Is it called that? No, that's a show, I think.
Bridger Weiniger
I think Platonic American Family.
Charles Rogers
I think it's called something like. It's like a network. It's a streamer. I think it's a Christian streamer.
Bridger Weiniger
Is it like.
Charles Rogers
I didn't mean to say. No.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel smash.
Charles Rogers
I know. It's triggering for me, I'm sure.
Bridger Weiniger
Is it like pure art? I'm very curious because then there's also going to be the Chick Fil? A network.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
That I believe is Chick Fil?
Charles Rogers
A. Is this just like this is. No.
Bridger Weiniger
And the way.
Charles Rogers
This is just like Twitter culture. You're, like, believing.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like Twitter has kind of just like forced these things into reality.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Just that horrible culture had somehow opened a door where now Chick Fil? A literally can have.
Charles Rogers
What you mean, what you. What you. What you think manifests or something like that.
Bridger Weiniger
And, you know, the television industry is obviously healthier than ever.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
It's doing great for.
Charles Rogers
For Natalia Grace. Pieces of content.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God, don't get me started on Natalia Gr. That documentary series, at least the one on Max. I had to stop halfway through the episode and I was so curious.
Charles Rogers
I haven't seen it. I support everyone involved, but just the idea of more in the same way that Tiger King or something. But the weird thing about Natalia Grace is that no one can remember if she's good or bad or the actual craze. We've all seen it and we're all like. And we all know if she's the devil. We didn't. We didn't remember the lesson.
Bridger Weiniger
There's really no clear answer. And like, I've complained about it on this podcast before and listeners have, like, tried to point out what's happening and they all have a different story.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
No one's ever.
Charles Rogers
We've all met her. We've all taken a general at some point with Natalia then talking to Grace tv.
Bridger Weiniger
Grace TV is probably the name of.
Charles Rogers
This Christian place and Natalia Grace.
Bridger Weiniger
But yeah, I would love to just find out her real age. And I don't think we're ever going to.
Charles Rogers
It's probably 37, just like me. You were recently adopted into a family career wise.
Bridger Weiniger
Did you ever see the orphan?
Charles Rogers
I did when it came out.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. And see, again, this is one of these things. It's deeply unclear. Was that inspired By Natalia Grace.
Charles Rogers
Well, so I think if I remember correctly, the parents did claim. Watch me be sued for this. But nothing I can't handle. But they claimed situations that were kind of based off of the movie. So they were like, very, like, low iq, really, about their lies.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow, that's wild.
Charles Rogers
I think that's the whole thing was that they were like. And then, like, when the investigation got into it, like, scenes where, like, she was standing over them with a knife and like. But they're like. But that happened in that movie. Orphan.
Bridger Weiniger
Both of the parents claim to have fallen through an ice in a pond. Wow. I had no. And now that I'm saying that, I'm thinking, is that the Good Son with Macaulay Culkin.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
Someone falls through the.
Charles Rogers
And the Bad Seed. There is a lot of.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I just recently watched the Bad Seed.
Charles Rogers
I love that as a kid. I remember. Yeah. I remember thinking, it's great.
Bridger Weiniger
It's fascinating. I should rewatch it. Evil little girl and everyone seems to know she's evil.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And kind of do nothing about it. She's just killing people.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. Oh, what can you do?
Bridger Weiniger
What can you do? I mean, Natalia Grace, she's a good example. What can you do? She's out there. Probably has a new docu series.
Charles Rogers
Probably. She's probably, like, giving people makeovers all across America.
Bridger Weiniger
Forever Youthful with. No.
Charles Rogers
She's getting everyone addressed as, like, 12 year olds.
Bridger Weiniger
No, I've. I guess I'll just. That'll be a mystery for me forever. Because I've tried looking into it. I've complained about it on my podcast hundreds of times. People are tired of me talking about it.
Charles Rogers
Oh, did I bring up something that. I mean, I've listened to your podcast a lot, but I don't remember this.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I've probably mentioned it a couple of times, but it's. You know, I mentioned something on this once, and I think people are. People want me to stop talking.
Charles Rogers
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
So that's how it kind of.
Charles Rogers
I did not mean to do that to you.
Bridger Weiniger
Thank you.
Charles Rogers
Thank you for your apology. What do you want to talk about?
Bridger Weiniger
I want to talk about Natalia Grace, to be honest.
Charles Rogers
Okay. Okay, great.
Bridger Weiniger
I want to get to the bottom of this. No, and then there's the, you know, like the narrative version of it. Right, right. Which is. Wait, is that the Great American Family?
Charles Rogers
That's what I'm thinking. That's Good American Family.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
That's Good American Family. The streaming service is Great American Family.
Bridger Weiniger
Really?
Charles Rogers
I'm sorry to tell you. No, it's okay. It's okay. That's crazy. It's like the great cookie, but a family and wait.
Bridger Weiniger
And then is there is a Chick Fil. A network.
Charles Rogers
Yes. No.
Bridger Weiniger
Promoting family friendly content.
Charles Rogers
Really? But that's not real, is it? That's just like an app. And then there's press releases.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, that's. I wonder if it'll like, only get to that stage and then they, like, won't be able to come up with original content.
Charles Rogers
Right. It's just going to be cow.
Bridger Weiniger
AI cows. I've had it with the cows. But this all goes back to. I can't believe Mario Lopez is involved.
Charles Rogers
Yes. And my one and only Mario Lopez sighting I've ever had was back to Universal Studios as a theme. I was going into Universal and he was shooting, I guess, Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood.
Bridger Weiniger
Get it straight.
Charles Rogers
Sorry. And then. Oh, he had a broken leg. And it was. He was hosting like full pro Mario Lopez and his leg was broken and hoisted on like a little barstool off camera. But he was just being like, Access Hollywood coming at you with like a full broken leg off camera. It was like right in front of the Universal ball. It was a. It's a. It was a very, like, perfect L. A moment.
Bridger Weiniger
I wonder if they had let the viewer in on the fact that his leg was broken or they're like that. We have to maintain the picture.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. I don't know. Mario's perfect.
Bridger Weiniger
Mario's always standing. He's always perfect. My. I had a similar sighting at the Grove that he used to host at the Grove.
Charles Rogers
Oh, right.
Bridger Weiniger
And I should say, you know, for legal reasons, I'm not sure that it was Mario Lopez on a golf cart yelling at someone. But I saw someone who looked like Mario Lopez on a golf cart yelling at my golf cart.
Charles Rogers
At the Grove.
Bridger Weiniger
At the Grove. I guess he wanted to be carted around. He's in great shape.
Charles Rogers
He's like rather be golfing.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I was that. Certainly you don't need to be like, driven around that place. It's about the size of a block.
Charles Rogers
There is something about 90s celebrity, though, where you do want to see them be golfed carted around.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Charles Rogers
Like it's fun.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. They're royalty. They shouldn't have to do any extra work.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. They're that level of royalty when they're.
Bridger Weiniger
Hosting outside of the Nike store.
Charles Rogers
I mean, you know, I don't really need him to. I don't need him. Him to be anything so. But I do think the happier you are, the more rageful Right.
Bridger Weiniger
Probably seems like a deep rage built in there.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I just. I needed him to be kind of a net neutral. And now the fact that he's involved with this network, it feels like we're pushing in a direction.
Charles Rogers
I mean, everyone is. I guess there's nothing. I don't even know anymore. Like, I used to. You know, it used to be so, like, can you believe who they voted for? And now it's sort of like, Well, I get it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, that makes sense.
Charles Rogers
This is how it works. We're like, you're. We're all slowly, like, eroding and just being like, yeah, yeah, I could be Maga for sure. Like, if. Like, if the clothes were cuter or something.
Bridger Weiniger
That's the one thing holding you back. Yeah, well, one of those better or something. Wow. Mario and Candace. Did you watch any of those shows growing up?
Charles Rogers
I watched Full House.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, me too.
Charles Rogers
I watched Full House in this very dissociated way where I wasn't even sure if I liked it, but it was. It was. There was a Xanax quality, too.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. It was just something that I would do once a week.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. It was an opportunity to see girls when you were young and gay.
Bridger Weiniger
Right?
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
See them, like, smoking and doing their nails.
Charles Rogers
Poor Kimmy, though.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, Kimmy.
Charles Rogers
Whatever happened, I'm surprised she didn't. She. If she had left the planet, I wouldn't have held it against her after that role. Like, she's strong. Like. Like, to. Her whole thing was that she had stinky, stinky ass feet.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, her feet smelled.
Charles Rogers
And the whole family was like, go to hell.
Bridger Weiniger
The family hated her. Could you imagine coming over every day and just trying to be like, my parents don't want me.
Charles Rogers
Damn it, you're fucking filthy.
Bridger Weiniger
My parents won't let me bathe. There's something dark going on in my house, and you don't even welcome me here.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I know. To leave your home every day to begin with, Tough.
Bridger Weiniger
That was a. We've kind of fallen. By the way. The. Like, the abusing the neighbor child has fallen by the wayside.
Charles Rogers
That's true.
Bridger Weiniger
It's like they can come over and just be part of the family now.
Charles Rogers
Right. And sneaking around, I think. I don't know if that. I don't know what youth culture is now. I don't know if they have shows or not.
Bridger Weiniger
That's true. If they have shows at all.
Charles Rogers
Well, it is interesting that whole, like, younger generations are not encouraged to tell stories on any level.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Charles Rogers
So I don't know where it's at.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, we're headed with that.
Charles Rogers
Everyone's just talking. Like, everyone is just expressing a vibe for a minute.
Bridger Weiniger
Like the. In their immediate surroundings. It's not like there's no forward movement or anything. It's just that I. I went to this cool little spot.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And had a muffin or whatever.
Charles Rogers
Exactly. Or it's a hot take. And then everyone's like. And then everyone comes, is. Tries to kill you.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like. I mean, eventually people will be doing so little. How are you even going to develop a hot take?
Charles Rogers
Well, it's a weird time because everyone. Everything now is a hot take. But, like, it's actually. There's nothing else, like, even down to, like, Mike White, like, talking about the composer. And it's like he was a bit like that. Everything is just. It sounds complex. And I do. I. I do worship at the altar of Mike White, of course. As do I. I almost, like, don't want to be gray about how I portray him, but I do. It does. It sounds complex. It sounds like both.
Bridger Weiniger
Both.
Charles Rogers
It sounds like both parties were maybe difficult with each other. Right.
Bridger Weiniger
But, you know, and then I'm sure there were a million takes on each of them total. And the work.
Charles Rogers
And I also, like, they've been validated so much. Something happens. I'm not talking about Mike White, but in general, something happens when people are validated too much.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah.
Charles Rogers
It's not good.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh. I mean, it's a. It's. They're given a free pass.
Charles Rogers
And the eyes change the eye. There's a possession. I've had this. There's a rubric of possession, devil possession that I've created with friends. And it's very real in Hollywood.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh. I mean, I see it, you know, it constantly. I'm sure we fall even to the.
Charles Rogers
Best of us, too. So the people. The weirdest thing. And I won't name names, but, like, there are people who we rally around, and they were always like, I love them. No, they finally got their thing, and then the overexposure changes them. And you're like, I can't anymore.
Bridger Weiniger
Of course. And then we're doing an Architectural Digest tour or something. Or we're doing the Vogue 73 question.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And we. We are watching a soulless body move around their house.
Charles Rogers
And not every road can lead back to fashion.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh.
Charles Rogers
That's what's crazy.
Bridger Weiniger
This is the weirdest thing that's happened, especially within comedies.
Charles Rogers
It's kind of scary that, like, the bottom line is that our God is fashion and that we're all working under like belief systems until we get to the. God. Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
It's all. Everything that you thought you were working for is now. Well, you get there. But that's only to get. Get to fashion.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
To be.
Charles Rogers
To be Paris.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes, it's.
Charles Rogers
And. And character actors are dead.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, absolutely. Forget it. Say.
Charles Rogers
I mean, the. I know so many incredible character actors that deserve to be famous. But. But that's not the way it works anymore.
Bridger Weiniger
No. They might get a, like a non named character on a show.
Charles Rogers
Right. It's very dark for like a guest star. And then you've got like Chris Pratt or like, who's a quiet place. John Krasinski.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, Krasinski.
Charles Rogers
Where that's also very family Republican.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah. Something's bubbling.
Charles Rogers
Father, daughter, son. Like, whatever that is, is. I don't know.
Bridger Weiniger
There is something simmering with both of those men.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I think especially with Pratt, obviously, to get hot too.
Charles Rogers
It's like you go like there's something very of the moment. To go from being like a putz or a dud to then being like a macho GI Joe is actually really bad.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a real.
Charles Rogers
It's. It's like there's something really dark happening.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. Because you start with the. These people who were hired for the office to look as average as possible.
Charles Rogers
To be relatable, to be like, that's like the silliest side of me. And then now it's like, actually that's who I want to be.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. It's like I want their body.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. And they stop being vulnerable. That's good.
Bridger Weiniger
We don't know what they think or feel at all. Any point.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah.
Charles Rogers
Whatever. That's. Whatever that is with men. That's something that's happening right now.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. I feel like the Office is kind of like a gremlin situation where they started as all the Furby. Yeah. And now they've all become full like the gremlin with the lipstick and earrings and we want to be that. Wow. Gremlins. Okay. Well, I feel like there's something else we should talk about. Not that I'm in trouble, not that I want to spoil my day, but it feels like the cracks are there. We might as well just look directly at it. The podcast is called I said no Gifts. And from. From what I understand, you have at least heard the title of the podcast. You've probably seen an email or two. So I was honestly floored when you came. Just kind of cruising through my backyard holding what could not more clearly be A gift.
Charles Rogers
Look, I had to do it.
Bridger Weiniger
Back against the wall.
Charles Rogers
My appreciation for you and our history.
Bridger Weiniger
Our rich history together. Okay. Well, I mean, it's here. You're here.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. I might as well.
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Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
That's the shocking thing to me about it.
Charles Rogers
It's like a play.
Bridger Weiniger
I the fact that I still feel something while recording this podcast is probably Choices. The biggest miracle of my life.
Charles Rogers
That's good.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, we've done hundreds.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And most people at this point, I feel like, like would be completely numb. And I'm numb in every other area of my life.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
What's happening?
Charles Rogers
I wasn't gonna push, but now I really.
Bridger Weiniger
Let's get into it.
Charles Rogers
Okay, I'll give you. Okay. There's actually one thing that is just genuinely like a real gift, because I kind of think it's. It's. This is a. This is actually just something for you.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. This is in a cold sack.
Charles Rogers
It's in a cold sack.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Oh, that's a good crinkle.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Brown paper bag. Crinkle.
Charles Rogers
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Bridger Weiniger
Pulling this out.
Charles Rogers
I just got you some air.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, some air on dish soap. This is an incredible case.
Charles Rogers
It looks nice on the counter. Oh, you didn't have to buy it for yourself.
Bridger Weiniger
This is the dream. Because. Yeah, I certainly would never buy this to actually wash dishes.
Charles Rogers
Right. Well, you know what? I have it, and now you do too.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, I just wouldn't. I don't feel like I'm worthy of that purchase, you know?
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I understand.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, I'll just buy the dome.
Charles Rogers
I mean, you might not be, but I got it for you anyway.
Bridger Weiniger
It smells so good.
Charles Rogers
It's nice.
Bridger Weiniger
This is lovely.
Charles Rogers
It's nice. I've started taking fragrance making classes. I have a dream of being. Oh, my God. I was at a party a few weeks ago and I. Very drunken. I just have a memory of drunkenly turning around to, like, a group of people I just met and being like, it's official. I'm starting a Fragrance line in 2026. Like, everyone being like, woo. Like, you're committed. I woke up the next morning and be like, oh, my God. But I'm learning a lot about fragrance. And ever in a bottle of perfume. They say that there is never. There's rarely more than $10 worth of. Of, like, material.
Bridger Weiniger
That's amazing. And then the rest is alcohol and.
Charles Rogers
Water and spit and spit, tears.
Bridger Weiniger
Just whatever they find on the factory floor. Wow. How long have you been taking the class?
Charles Rogers
I've been taking them for, like, a few months. And since. Since the summer, I've been taking them. Yeah, okay. Eventually. But the more I learn, the more I'm like, ugh, whatever. I don't know. That's how I feel about every hobby.
Bridger Weiniger
You're numb to it.
Charles Rogers
I'm numb. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Now it's just part of your life.
Charles Rogers
The more you get into something, the more you have to do. And the more I took sailing lessons a couple years ago, and like a boy Scout, I know it felt. I felt. I felt like a man in moments. And the more I got into it, like, you're out there all day with, like, people named, like, Margaret Van Shea, and you don't know them because, like, you have to take them with, like. And it's like, she. This is. I changed her first name, not her last name, but she did something. She was a cocktail waitress at a big hotel in Santa Monica. So you're like, there with, like, random people all day long. And then it was fun at first. And then you get into like, like the boat, like the battery or like, the toilets. And then I was like, I don't care.
Bridger Weiniger
Why would you ever want to know? Yeah, the battery. I didn't even understand there was a battery in one of those.
Charles Rogers
There's a battery.
Bridger Weiniger
There's a Duracel is for, like, an emergency motor or something.
Charles Rogers
You have to have, like a PA system. You have to have. Well, so if you're going to teach. Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
I had no idea. And now I know too much about sailing. Yeah, I didn't want to know any of that.
Charles Rogers
A 101 of any hobby is great. And then a 102 is like, oh, this sucks.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? This was just to kill time. And now it's taking over my life.
Charles Rogers
I'm closer to that.
Bridger Weiniger
How did. How did you find out about this fragrance making class?
Charles Rogers
I went to some sort of, like, fair thing, and there was a woman there who had made her own fragrances. And I was like, how did you learn this? And she told me the school, and.
Bridger Weiniger
I just started going, wow, so what does it require? Like, you go to class and are you, like, learning the chemistry of all of these things or is it just, like, mix different bottles together?
Charles Rogers
You can go either way. Like, if you're going to do it for real, then you have to. Then you should have been a chemist from day one. So if you're going to just be like a brand bitch, like you, whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
One of many housewives.
Charles Rogers
Do whatever you want. But it is. It isn't what's weird. It is that it is an invisible art and interesting. And like, you can really. I can really. It brought out a sense of self doubt that I have as a runner in my life where people are like, I smell lime. And then I was like, I'm so stupid. I'm not good at anything. Like, I don't smell lime. And then someone's like, I don't smell lime. And I'm like, that's true. I don't smell. It's like, it is. It brings out something where you really gaslight yourself about the truth of.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I have. I have a really bad sense of smell. So I feel like this would be my ultimate nightmare.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And then I also am a joiner, so I'd just be like, I would just agree with whoever's talking about the smell.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
And then I would learn nothing and create garbage.
Charles Rogers
Right. You're useless.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, useless person. In any. So, like, what's the end goal? Is it to create your own fragrance within the class?
Charles Rogers
It's whatever you want. And it's very. Like, there's no accreditation and people just drop out. And I've never, like, seen the same person twice.
Bridger Weiniger
Really? So you've really kept with.
Charles Rogers
It's workshoppy. Because there's nothing. There's no real way to do this. So I don't know. I have. I have a goal. I just feel like we all need to have, like, side. Side jobs.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. I think that's probably a good idea.
Charles Rogers
I don't know if fragrance is the right one, though.
Bridger Weiniger
But now you've got the knowledge.
Charles Rogers
I know by the time my company's up and going, then it's like, we're going to be in, like, the next great depression. I'm going to be like, but this rhubarb.
Bridger Weiniger
Each week, do you create a different scent or what happens?
Charles Rogers
Honestly, I feel like we should just move on.
Bridger Weiniger
I want to know. You can't bring yourself on my content regularly.
Charles Rogers
The more exposing you, the more you expose us. How tenuous my relationship to this whole thing is.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you wear any fragrances?
Charles Rogers
I do.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
What fragrances are you wearing right now?
Charles Rogers
I'm wearing Jo Malone, hinoki and cedarwood.
Bridger Weiniger
It's really witchy. Okay.
Charles Rogers
And also something called BDK Gris Charnel. It's like, there's a place called Scent Bar in la. There's two of them. Oh, it's like a little mini moma of fragrance. Just go. It's amazing.
Bridger Weiniger
Where is it?
Charles Rogers
There's one downtown, and then there's one, like, really close to the grove. But. But it's. It's like you go in and you're just like, I like, like, incensey smells. And they're like, isn't this one wonderful?
Bridger Weiniger
Is there any, like, scent that you hate that you wouldn't wear?
Charles Rogers
I really struggle with, like, oud and musks. Oud is like a fermented wood. It's Very. It's popular in like South Asia, but it's like in the Middle East. But it's. It's really pungent and it's kind of cheesy and it's hard.
Bridger Weiniger
Like that's the thing for me.
Charles Rogers
Fragrances are also like wine culture where like the sophisticated you are, the more open you are to like. Oh, right. You know, not just nice things.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You want the hardest.
Charles Rogers
And I'm just like a basic person, unfortunately.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I don't know if I've ever smelled an Ood.
Charles Rogers
Oh, let's go.
Bridger Weiniger
Thank you.
Charles Rogers
Does this. Does this have a generator? These mics.
Bridger Weiniger
Get in the car.
Charles Rogers
Okay, well, that's for you. Let's.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm so thrilled about this. And I just ran out of dish soap, to be honest. So here we go. We go again. Okay, let's get back into the bag here. Does it matter what order these come out Mountain?
Charles Rogers
Not really. I think. No. I think. Oh, actually, let's do this first.
Bridger Weiniger
All right. They're beautifully wrapped in kind of a confetti style wrapping paper.
Charles Rogers
Well, every day. Every day should feel like a party.
Bridger Weiniger
You've always said that.
Charles Rogers
My darkest times.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, wait, what is wow. Oh, like a face mask.
Charles Rogers
Little. Yeah, little animal masks.
Bridger Weiniger
And they're cheetah colored or.
Charles Rogers
Oh, all sorts of animals.
Bridger Weiniger
These are full like almost Halloween costume level because the other side has unicorn and they're made from Alaska glacier water, which I refuse to believe.
Charles Rogers
Does it say that?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Charles Rogers
Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
There's no chance.
Charles Rogers
There's no chance.
Bridger Weiniger
There is. I mean, you can. Anybody you can call anything Alaska glacier.
Charles Rogers
Water if you want water.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, it's traveling around the world, it's getting sucked up into clouds and taken elsewhere. So who knows? It also has fruit extract, but they don't tell you which fruit. Yeah, well, this feels like a. An allergen killed them all in whitelist. Where did you get these?
Charles Rogers
Amazon.
Bridger Weiniger
Amazon.
Charles Rogers
Wonderful little store online.
Bridger Weiniger
This funky little shop.
Charles Rogers
You got to try it. It's incredible.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you ever use this type of mask?
Charles Rogers
No. No.
Bridger Weiniger
Have you ever?
Charles Rogers
I have. I've done it like, you know, in girly moments.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Yeah, I'm always. I feel like it is the sort of thing that if you're going to get results, you have to do it regularly.
Charles Rogers
I don't think these work, to be honest.
Bridger Weiniger
There's no way.
Charles Rogers
There's no way these tutti fruity.
Bridger Weiniger
An eight year old girl slumber party y.
Charles Rogers
Well, they have the best skin.
Bridger Weiniger
That's true. Which came first? Yeah. So I've tried them once or twice and I never mind it, but it is a thing where you're kind of stuck wearing it.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Can't quite live your life.
Charles Rogers
Maybe you'd want to wear them on the show. I don't know.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, should I wear one right now?
Charles Rogers
It could be cute.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you want to wear one as well?
Charles Rogers
I'll wear one with you.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
It'll work better on you because you don't have a beard.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, exactly. I was curious about that. Now I'm going to give you a choice. Have a cheetah you can grow. Panda, llama, mermaid.
Charles Rogers
What do you want? What do you want?
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I want to see what the mermaid looks like. Well, this doesn't make any sense. That's almost nothing. And then a unicorn. I think I'm going to go with. I think I'm going to go fold with a cheetah.
Charles Rogers
The cheetah's cute.
Bridger Weiniger
What do you want?
Charles Rogers
Oh, my God. The mermaid is really dumb.
Bridger Weiniger
The mermaid is.
Charles Rogers
I think I want the. No, I want to be sexy if we're going out like this club after the otter.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
God knows I am.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, wow. These are sopping wet. This is the wettest mask.
Charles Rogers
I ordered them extra wet. I called Jeff Bezos and I said, pump them up. Yeah. I said, hold on. I know you're loading women into a spaceship, but I want these masks wet.
Bridger Weiniger
Look how wet.
Charles Rogers
Oh, my God. They really are.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
Oh, my God. And soapy.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. It's like, I just think this is dish.
Charles Rogers
I'm sorry. Thank you for doing that. This is more airwash.
Bridger Weiniger
This is now the video of. This is horror. Pure horror.
Charles Rogers
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Charles Rogers
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For your life. Now, I'm wearing a mask listener. And I can't possibly imagine what I look like right now.
Charles Rogers
It smells like a car wash.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like bank robbery and heist movies. They're always like trying to find the next. Like, what weird mask will the person be wearing? And I feel like this is not the worst idea. You know, like in the town they wore the nun masks. Oh my God.
Charles Rogers
I don't even know what you're talking about. In the town they wore they know is. What is that like a Mark Wahlberg movie?
Bridger Weiniger
It's a he probably. It's a set in Boston for sure. He's got to be in it. But at some point, people wear kind of a. I don't even know where they got these frightening nun masks because. Because what retailer is selling this clearly frightening? Wow, this is. I gotta stretch it. Here we go.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I can't wait to see what we look like after this full. Natalia Grace, you look the way to me.
Charles Rogers
You. This has just become your truth.
Bridger Weiniger
Actually, I've revealed my full self at last.
Charles Rogers
I kind of see. I get it.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, do you have any sort of skincare routine?
Charles Rogers
No, I. I do. The only consistent compliment I get in my life is my skin.
Bridger Weiniger
You've got Great skin. But you do nothing.
Charles Rogers
I do nothing. But I do. I think I just drink a lot of water naturally.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure, sure.
Charles Rogers
I'm like a very compulsive person and so drinking water is just, it's just something to compulsively do all the time.
Bridger Weiniger
Such an easy habit to have. Yeah. Unless you die of water poisoning or something. Is that possible?
Charles Rogers
Well, Alaskan glacier.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. I think that is kind of the secret of skin care is do, is don't do that much. Yeah. I think people are doing like these, this is like getting in my mouth. People are doing these 50 step routines. Yes. And what result are they getting?
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Meanwhile you're walking around new as a baby and you're doing nothing.
Charles Rogers
I do sleep eight hours. The one thing for all of my insanity that I have going on upstairs, like I, I do sleep.
Bridger Weiniger
You sleep pretty well.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I've, I've been very lucky with that.
Bridger Weiniger
Are you a person? As soon as you get in bed, you're falling asleep or do you lie there for a while?
Charles Rogers
I, I usually am suddenly like, no, I'm ready to go to sleep. I'll like, wow. I mean, I look at my phone, unfortunately.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh sure, sure.
Charles Rogers
I need to get out of that habit.
Bridger Weiniger
It.
Charles Rogers
But I actually had. Oh God. Do you want an exclusive?
Bridger Weiniger
I would love that.
Charles Rogers
I've debated, I'm thinking about this now. Okay. So I've debated posting about this for a while because it just is so humiliating and tragic. But I got one of those sleep apps that like tells you if you like, like toss and turn.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh yes, yes, yes.
Charles Rogers
And it records you. And I said something. This is like 2 years old. And I like almost posted it and then I was like, no, I'm scared because I just seem like a terrible human. But hold on, I cannot wait. I can probably find it. It's so like, it tells you if you like talk in your sleep and it.
Bridger Weiniger
Right, right.
Charles Rogers
Okay, it's taken. Okay. So I woke up to hearing myself say this. There's two parts to it. So like, so you're going to hear the first part and don't, don't start talking cuz you'll, you'll miss the second part. Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I cannot wait.
Charles Rogers
You what? Losers.
Bridger Weiniger
Loser. Do you remember what you're dreaming about?
Charles Rogers
I, I, it took me.
Bridger Weiniger
You're bullying people.
Charles Rogers
I heard it like midday and I was like, what? And then I felt like heartbroken for myself and for the whoever I was. I think I do know who I was talking about cuz I had a really long dream About a situation in a group of people.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Charles Rogers
And I do think it was connected to that.
Bridger Weiniger
It was me.
Charles Rogers
So who was last night. But it's just that like. It's like you. It's like losers. It's like the saddest. It made me so sad.
Bridger Weiniger
That's a very like walking away from a group that's been. Just been making fun of you.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. Which I. Which they probably were. So I think I was justified.
Bridger Weiniger
Just your head hanging. Just feeling absolutely terrible. Ye. I'm curious. I have to imagine I. I talk in my sleep. You do? I. I did a lot as a kid and I did a lot of sleepwalking. So I should get one of these. It just. Does it record all night or is it. Oh my God. This mask.
Charles Rogers
I know it's sort of. If you want to take it off.
Bridger Weiniger
I think it probably. Thank you for. I was waiting for permission.
Charles Rogers
It.
Bridger Weiniger
You got what you needed and now we're so. Dewey.
Charles Rogers
It's disgusting. I'm gonna throw this over here.
Bridger Weiniger
I did sleepwalk a lot as a kid, but as. As I. I think I grew out of it, but I think I'm getting back into it.
Charles Rogers
Would you just like walk throughout the house? What would you do?
Bridger Weiniger
I would walk through the house. I would. At one point there were two convenient.
Charles Rogers
Two birds, one stone.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, exactly.
Charles Rogers
Steps in.
Bridger Weiniger
Wake up in your. Your iWatch or Apple.
Charles Rogers
Watch his body.
Bridger Weiniger
There was one point and this was a scary one. I walked into my slept walk into my parents room and sat down with him and just started laughing and just was laughing and they didn't know what to do.
Charles Rogers
Natalia Gray style.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, totally. Natalia Gray style. And then there was one point when I. I stepped walk into their bathroom and just sat on it and peed.
Charles Rogers
Really nasty. Nasty little pig. Nasty little Mormon pig. Get out. They were like, get this kid to la.
Bridger Weiniger
It is weird when your body does kind of like at least practical things with sleepwalking. It's like driving the cvs. Yeah. Just get all of your errands done for the day. Do you know if you've ever slept walk?
Charles Rogers
I don't think I have. Yeah, I've barely. I think that that amount of speaking is probably the most. I think most. Yeah. I have a sleep paralysis a lot.
Bridger Weiniger
You do?
Charles Rogers
I do.
Bridger Weiniger
Is it horrifying?
Charles Rogers
It is. It sucks. Now I know what it is. Right. So I mean I've had it since I was like 16 probably. But it happens consistently on planes.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
And trains and cars.
Bridger Weiniger
The worst places to have it happen.
Charles Rogers
The Worst. And I have been in like a middle seat before on a plane. And there's a thing when you. Have you ever had it?
Bridger Weiniger
No, I haven' so like, there's.
Charles Rogers
You're awake but asleep and you're locked in. And there's like little things that are common where like you try and like wiggle your finger and you're like, if I can wiggle my finger, I can wiggle my whole arm. And then I can like snap out of it. You're just like moving like. And it feels like you're trying to like push a boulder uphill to get out of this, like lock in. And I've like fully like had like, like I've like snapped out of it like in a middle seat before and been like. It's like the most embarrassing.
Bridger Weiniger
Like this does me. Where was I traveling? I was on a plane a couple of months ago and I fell asleep and I woke up doing this.
Charles Rogers
Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
And what were you.
Charles Rogers
You're doing the wave?
Bridger Weiniger
I guess so. I guess that's kind of similar. But it wasn't that. It didn't start from paralysis. I just started from some frightening dream or something. It's bad wiring then. Yeah, it really is. And then you can't really explain.
Charles Rogers
Were your parents related?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. But yeah, you can't really explain to your seat fellow people.
Charles Rogers
Your seat, husband, seat, wife.
Bridger Weiniger
Your wife. So then I just have to sit there like everything's normal. Which is such a bizarre feeling.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you remember the first time you had sleep paralysis?
Charles Rogers
I remember the first time it was really crazy, which was in college. I was sleeping in. Irregular sleep patterns also can contributed to. So I'm sure I was just like college sleeping until like 11 or something stupid with my college boy boyfriend. And I suddenly was like locked in. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna roll myself off the bed. And you have like stupid logic like that where you're like, I can do it. I can roll myself up. And then finally I actually did roll myself off. And when I hit the ground, I woke up and I turned to him and I started telling him like, oh my God, I just had sleep rouses. And then he started turning into my roommate like before my eyes from my freshman year dorm. And I was like, oh, I'm still in it. And then I was back in like the same locked. And so that was like lucid dreaming.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, sure.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
What a like combo.
Charles Rogers
It was full like Christopher Nolan. Like, it's like, no.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow, that's really fascinating. I. I would love to be Able to. Lucid dream. I can't do that. I've never done it before.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But sleep paralysis. I mean, even if I wake up with my arm asleep, the panic I.
Charles Rogers
Go through, I do that all the. I'm. My arms are constantly.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm glad to hear this. It's a recent thing for me. And I'm like, what's.
Charles Rogers
Do you feel when you try to. When you wake up and your arm's asleep and you try to fl. Do you flail to get the blood back?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Charles Rogers
And then when you can't lift your torso up with your arm, do you take your other arm and raise your body? Yep. This is. No one's ever discussed this.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. And every time my thinking is, oh, this is the time that I've.
Charles Rogers
You snap it. Yes, I know. Every time I'm like, and now my.
Bridger Weiniger
It's finally gonna happen. And I had. And I didn't do anything wrong. This is just happening to me.
Charles Rogers
You know, you're gay. If you wake up in the middle of the night and you're scared that you're going to snap your arms off by twisting and turning. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I think it happens probably once a week to me now. Same what's happening with my body. That like, this is a new.
Charles Rogers
We should be able to take our arms off before bed.
Bridger Weiniger
They're not necessary for sleeping.
Charles Rogers
They're not necessary. Similarly, I think that we should all take our teeth out early because it's a net loss game. You start at zero and you only go downhill.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. You really do. What, what age do you think we should get our teeth. Teeth out?
Charles Rogers
I think when you say your first word, the consequence, a real dose for how life works.
Bridger Weiniger
I think I do feel like we're at a point technologically and within the medical field and the dental field that that should just be like what everyone does.
Charles Rogers
We need to come full circle back to George Washington.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. You just get them out. Get things that you can like put in the dishwasher or you put your.
Charles Rogers
Teeth in the dishwasher.
Bridger Weiniger
Wash them with my air ones. So something that every night you just take out and put it in a, you know, with the little tablet and then put them in the next morning.
Charles Rogers
I agree.
Bridger Weiniger
I don't, I don't understand what's. Because they're just a health hazard or.
Charles Rogers
If we just eat softer food. You don't even know that. If we just had a soft food industry, then everything would be just kind.
Bridger Weiniger
Of a soup based cult. No, I'm on board with having all of our Teeth removed. I don't see the point in keeping. Keeping them.
Charles Rogers
No. And they're not actually sexy.
Bridger Weiniger
No. They're very odd.
Charles Rogers
We just. We've created ideologies around teeth to begin. And that Amy Lou woman is certainly breaking down barriers.
Bridger Weiniger
She is breaking. I love the stories about her because it's like, she is a stunningly beautiful person.
Charles Rogers
She's so gorgeous, and I love her. I actually do love her teeth. Yeah, they're great. I think it's important to. Like, glitches in the Matrix are important.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. Things that. Like, that's just that person's teeth.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But every news article is like, this mutant has crawled out of the sewer.
Charles Rogers
To break barriers, to fight all odds. It's like, we'll give her one chance, and then we'll let her sail away. Although I did see some. Like, she was in a production of Cabaret in the UK as, like, the mc. No, as Sally Bowles. And she looked very, like, raggedy and. And creepy in a really good way. Like, in a way that I want, I think.
Bridger Weiniger
And you feel like the teeth contributed to this?
Charles Rogers
For sure.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow. So she can really go in any direction.
Charles Rogers
Any direction where the teeth can be.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, that can cut teeth Forward Productions. No, I.
Charles Rogers
Bond girl.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Charles Rogers
Isn't there, like, a dental bond? There's, like, a pun in there.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, there is, absolutely. What is a dental bond? Is that for your dentures?
Charles Rogers
There's, like, a tube of toothpaste in the section with Bond in it. You know what I'm talking about?
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I think it's called. It's not dental bond, is it? It's like, you're going to be, like.
Charles Rogers
Great American Family, and then we have to just, like, believe you again.
Bridger Weiniger
We find out that Annalise's computer is just broken.
Charles Rogers
It's owned by Great American Family. I mean, I see.
Bridger Weiniger
Dent. Gold Bond. Gold Bond is what you're thinking of, but that's.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, that's not a. Well, I put it on my teeth. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Wait, what is Gold Bond?
Charles Rogers
Who are you talking to over there? The universe?
Bridger Weiniger
I need to know. I should have known this. Everyone else knows Gold Bond isn't a foot. There's a man. There's a shadow standing there. What is Gold Bond?
Charles Rogers
CEO of Gold Bonds? Ghost Body Powder.
Bridger Weiniger
Body Powder.
Charles Rogers
Body Powder.
Bridger Weiniger
That would have been my second guess.
Charles Rogers
There is dent. People like that. Do you do that?
Bridger Weiniger
The powder.
Charles Rogers
I do feel no offense. I do feel a paler person is more likely to do this.
Bridger Weiniger
To do that is. I'm deeply offended.
Charles Rogers
I'm not Saying you.
Bridger Weiniger
But what like is it. Do they use it in everywhere, those.
Charles Rogers
Nasties everywhere, these little fuckers.
Bridger Weiniger
I guess it's for a very damp person.
Charles Rogers
I guess so you've got to really.
Bridger Weiniger
Dry out the nooks and crannies.
Charles Rogers
If you use these masks, you got.
Bridger Weiniger
A gold bond after. I've never done the powder.
Charles Rogers
Neither have I. But I do feel like. I don't know your practices but I do feel like grindr. I don't know. Like you could imagine walking into someone's house and then discovering that they're like a Gold bond bodied person. Yes. Like you never know.
Bridger Weiniger
It's all over the couch.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
You're like, I can't turn back now.
Charles Rogers
And they're like, taste it.
Bridger Weiniger
I didn't agree to this.
Charles Rogers
She was bald.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. That's a. It feels like something that like is from another time. But there are like people probably pockets of the country that are still Gold bond for sure. And then there's. I'm sure there's Gold bond families and people who have adopted it late in life as some sort of fetish and they love just a powdery variants which I'm not on board with.
Charles Rogers
No, no. Powder culture is disgusting and it's crazy and it's not necessary.
Bridger Weiniger
Powder culture really is. It's kind of like upper room of the saloon. Just kind of like. Yeah, you're masking so many things that you should have just washed off or.
Charles Rogers
Yes, that's true. And that I understand. But I do think there's something about it that's like. Well, I mean we're all babies and it's just like what do you. No, we're not.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh yeah. There's something real weird about it.
Charles Rogers
It's like no one said we're babies.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. I don't. I'm strictly a deodorant stick.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Done a deodorant spray.
Charles Rogers
I think I've like shared someone's.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I don't know.
Charles Rogers
That's when you can share.
Bridger Weiniger
I though that's a good point.
Charles Rogers
I don't, I don't. I only really sweat and smell if I'm working out and otherwise I'm not like a sweaty, smelly person. So.
Bridger Weiniger
So you're not a daily deodorant person.
Charles Rogers
I try not to be.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Charles Rogers
I'm trying. I am like. But I really love to feel clean and I love like little rituals and so I do like to do it but I'm actually thinking I'm going to stop and so I'm. I'm Weaning right now.
Bridger Weiniger
For health reasons.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I just. I mean, like, think about it. Like, why are we caking something into our crevice?
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Right.
Charles Rogers
That can't be right. It's just like literally asking. We're asking it to be absorbed. It's not going anywhere.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. There's only one place to go.
Charles Rogers
The neighbor. The pits are the neighbors to the heart.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God, I'm so scared now. But I would rather have people happy with me than be medically safe.
Charles Rogers
Because you're codependent. Have you ever read Codependency? No more.
Bridger Weiniger
I need to.
Charles Rogers
It's really good.
Bridger Weiniger
I think it's going to be. I'm afraid it's going to be too eye opening for me, so.
Charles Rogers
But okay, in that case, what is the point of life?
Bridger Weiniger
To shield myself from any sort of growth or forward movement.
Charles Rogers
You're one of the few people that will admit it. Who actually says it.
Bridger Weiniger
Maybe it's time for me to read it. But what if it shifts and everything?
Charles Rogers
I mean, it could, but I think. Yeah, it could. I. It made me see a lot of stuff, but it's. It's. I like her. Her vibe. She's like, it's old school. It's like the first seminal codependency book.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure, sure.
Charles Rogers
And. And so it's A lot of. It's about alcoholism because, like, that's all they thought codependency was. And then. But like, she gives example. She's like. She's got like a voice sort of.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, oh, I like this.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. You actually kind of like her. Like, she's kind of funny, too. And. And she's like, say your son's a shopaholic. And he says, mom, I'm going to shop till I drop. And you go back upstairs and you and the mother, like, it's just like the most crazy specific. Yeah. It's like these situations that you're like.
Bridger Weiniger
What, wait, what's her name? Do you know?
Charles Rogers
I don't. I can't.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm really putting it on the spot with fragrances, with author names. Yeah, well, okay, I'm going to get into that.
Charles Rogers
Is it Melody Beatty? Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
Incredible name.
Charles Rogers
She's great. She's very likable. But it's all. It's like, say your husband throws you down the stairs, steals your Corvette and doesn't show back up for two months. Are you going to let him back in? This is literally exactly what she sounds like. I'm getting it really. I'm getting it really good.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, at least to get the keys to my Corvette. I'll let him back.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, we have. There are obviously other things in here. I've got to. Let's see. I haven't even opened this. Okay, now this is more of a tube shaped shape object.
Charles Rogers
Don't get your hopes up. It's not a tube.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. It's a T shirt. A T shirt that says, I am afraid of women.
Charles Rogers
I found it on Amazon.
Bridger Weiniger
Who is this for?
Charles Rogers
That's what I wanted to know. Because I am afraid of women. It's like, that's very gay.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Charles Rogers
But then it's also for what?
Bridger Weiniger
Like, like, like what. What is the message?
Charles Rogers
Like a. Like a bro in Vegas. Like, who is it for?
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Like, I don't know. Because obviously, contextually it's going to mean all sorts of different things on the person and what environment they're in. If I were to be wearing this. What am I. What am I trying to say?
Charles Rogers
Well, let's find out.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm gonna wear this on an episode of what would you do? And it'll just be a man wearing this shirt. What would you do with this man? Wow, this is a fascinating thing.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. So I actually. Amazon. I searched your name and Amazon. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.
Bridger Weiniger
What is that?
Charles Rogers
And then so I found a shirt that said, God. It said, I am Bridger. Doing Bridger things. Literally. Like, if you Amazon your name, it's like the point. I was like, do I get that? And then I was like, I hate it. Like, I hate I am Bridger. I just didn't like the sound of saying it.
Bridger Weiniger
Where is that coming from?
Charles Rogers
Yes. And so then when I clicked on that, it was like, you might also like. And it led to this shirt. And I was like, oh, my.
Bridger Weiniger
Like a natural path.
Charles Rogers
Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
This is. This must be a whole industry of. There's some sort of bot or something that's just literally throwing words together that could be tied into Amazon and the search results.
Charles Rogers
Well, it's an interesting expression of misogyny because it's giving women power over the wearer.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Charles Rogers
So I don't fully get it. Like, I'm a little bit like, who. Who is? Who is what? Straight man out there who, like, wants to, like, hand it to women on a T shirt is also being like, because I'm lesser than you. Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
It's the straight.
Charles Rogers
I don't understand it.
Bridger Weiniger
Personality type. You could possibly. It's a dangerous person. Ultimately a very dangerous person.
Charles Rogers
You're right. No matter who wears it.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, I don't even know how you would operate in the world walking around in this. No one is going to treat you you in any way you want them to.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. No one's going to give you the power in any exchange. It's anyway, you can throw that away. It's $18. They could have used.
Bridger Weiniger
What a fascinating towards therapy. I would love to see one person I would love to meet an interview. If you. If you already own this product, reach out to the podcast and we'll interview you. Try to get to the bottom of your behavior and your lifestyle aisle because. Yeah, I just don't know. Annalise, you have any guesses?
Charles Rogers
I have two guesses.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, wow.
Charles Rogers
I have two guesses. One is like a group of like a toxic male friend group, like they're.
Bridger Weiniger
Going out to Vegas and they put.
Charles Rogers
That on like the weakest link they seem. You can't get a girl or a lesbian.
Bridger Weiniger
A lesbian, a little who's afraid of them would wear that to the club and be like, please just hit on me. Okay. Interesting. That's interesting.
Charles Rogers
I think the lesbian. I think now I feel ashamed for not having opened the lesbian door of possibility. And I do think that there's also like an Orlando lesbian who would wear it too.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, the nightmare is that your house is on fire, you're not wearing anything, and you're like, just grab a shirt. You're surrounded by firefighters and the neighbors, right?
Charles Rogers
And they're all women and no one's helping you, and you burn alive. It's a good short film.
Bridger Weiniger
I love it. I can't wait to find an opportunity to wear this.
Charles Rogers
Wonderful.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, and now finally, there's one other. Oh, I'm touching the mask. It's getting my arm wet.
Charles Rogers
Those masks were disgusting. I'm so sorry.
Bridger Weiniger
I can't wait to see what happens to both of our faces.
Charles Rogers
Burned beyond recognition are we trade faces. It's like the fly. It's a portal.
Bridger Weiniger
All right, now this is. Oh, my God.
Charles Rogers
As I said, I just searched Richard Weiniger and Amazon.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a book called Weiniger Reflections Tales from Wisconsin's north woods by weirdly, someone named Bill Rutherford.
Charles Rogers
I think that win again must be the North Woods. Really? I did highlight. Well, I. Inside I marked a really important passage. But let's hear about Bill Rutherford.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, yeah, let's. Bill Rutherford was born a. Uh, Huper lives in Milwaukee but still calls.
Charles Rogers
I don't know what that is, but it's not good.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to Huper Is. But still calls Weiniger home. So Weiniger's a city or a town or a lake. Here's what people are saying. Oh, it's got good press.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. Well, yeah. Some people are saying.
Bridger Weiniger
Janice Felt says, it has brought to my mind pleasant, humorous and melancholy memories we had. We had put in the back of our mind. This brought them out, too.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Triggering book.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Sharing times that we are, for the most, all. For the most part, all familiar with. Okay.
Charles Rogers
For the most part. So they're admitting that it's not universal.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. This is not. It's not going to be a huge hit, actually.
Charles Rogers
You won't relate to this at all.
Bridger Weiniger
And Steve Finnegan says, very cool. I love the way you tell stories.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Steve Finnegan.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, so you.
Charles Rogers
Wait. Will you look up Steve Finnegan. Wait, can I tell you something really quickly? Just saying. Will you look up somebody. Have you ever watched International House Hunters before?
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, of course.
Charles Rogers
Okay. There was an episode with these people that I want to say had gone. They were this family that was moving to, like, Malaga or somewhere. Somewhere in Spain, I don't know. And they were moving from, like, Sarasota. And the whole time I was like, something is up. Like, this family is, like, on the lam. The vibes are weird. Something's off. I, like, finally found his name, like, on Reddit or something. I Googled this man and he was, like, ousted as, like, the University of Florida. Something like women's. I want to say it was basketball, but maybe it was football or. I can't remember. Soccer. I think it was soccer. It was soccer. Women's soccer. And he. A lot of them claimed that he had made them bulimic and that he was like, I know. But it was to go from watching International House Hunters being like, something's up, and then, like, going straight to this thing. And they severed him with pay. And clearly he had used the pay to find this house in Malaga and put himself on tv. Isn't that interesting that you and the family would go right onto TV from.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, that's. That's truly just psychopath behavior, where you're just like, I'm getting away with sort.
Charles Rogers
Of best life, low level, low level, best life behavior.
Bridger Weiniger
Because I've often. Especially not just on regular House Hunters, because there are various other issues with those people. But on International, you're always like, something, something.
Charles Rogers
It's always tax people or like, I couldn't ever find a husband.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. It's like there's never just like, oh, we Want to see the world? There's something driving them away. And for you to have actually found one of these people is.
Charles Rogers
It was exciting.
Bridger Weiniger
Incredible.
Charles Rogers
It was huge.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. You highlighted part of this.
Charles Rogers
I did. This is a passage I want you to take heart to heart.
Bridger Weiniger
It says we hope that some. Should I read this whole paragraph?
Charles Rogers
The whole thing all connected as one sentence.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, the thing. We hope that someday Weiniger may die.
Charles Rogers
I just thought it was a.
Bridger Weiniger
No, I think that is a universal message. I think that most people have that on front of mind.
Charles Rogers
I just thought anyone listening, the moment.
Bridger Weiniger
They click play that come. That's immediately what they're thinking.
Charles Rogers
Amy. Man SINGS we get through Amer Reflections Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
This is a beautiful book. I can't wait to find out about. I should visit Weiniger. I wonder.
Charles Rogers
I'm sure they'd have Wisconsin for like.
Bridger Weiniger
A post or like a. I'm sure there's honorary mayor or something.
Charles Rogers
It would help them get a blue check if you did.
Bridger Weiniger
Wine eater should host me at some point. I should come do a little parade. We've got chapters such as Hot Pursuit.
Charles Rogers
Oh, I wonder what happens there.
Bridger Weiniger
A visit from Debars.
Charles Rogers
Oh, mauled everyone mauled.
Bridger Weiniger
Death knell for a small town.
Charles Rogers
No, there's no good news coming out of Winagar. It's a cursed name.
Bridger Weiniger
This is a bad place.
Charles Rogers
It is crazy. Is it German?
Bridger Weiniger
Weiniger is. I think it's Dutch. Uhhuh. I think it's like something about vineyards or something.
Charles Rogers
What are most Mormons?
Bridger Weiniger
Mormons are. There's a. You know, it's. I would say white mutt, but like Scandinavian, English, Scottish.
Charles Rogers
So interesting because there's the look. Like the Mormon look. You would think that everyone have been from the same like gene pool.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. I think it's largely like Northern Europe, Scandinavia.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And British.
Charles Rogers
And then just the white is the whitest options.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Because there are a lot of Anderson Sorensen's, like these kind of very.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
Scandi names. Scandia word is.
Charles Rogers
I hope that it's a terrible. It's a derogatory word about the most oppressed people. You don't know what they're going through, actually. Those fucking people. Northern European people.
Bridger Weiniger
You're not into them.
Charles Rogers
They. They get these tests, these census tests where they say they're the happiest.
Bridger Weiniger
So unfair.
Charles Rogers
Happiest countries in the world. And they're the most depressed alcoholics. And the. The. Well, Sweden's different. They have a little sense of humor, but like they are the most joyless Finnish People, and they say they're the happiest, and they do kara. The sun goes down at noon, and they do karaoke, and they're alcoholics who do karaoke for 12 hours after the sun goes down. And they say they're the most happy people in the world, and we believe them.
Bridger Weiniger
What's driving the.
Charles Rogers
Well, there's something wrong with us every.
Bridger Weiniger
Time I say so. Truly, any. That's like a yearly headline. And it makes you just have this existential thing of, like, well, there's no way I can get to that life. I'm trapped in this body, in this country.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. And meanwhile, people are living it up.
Bridger Weiniger
They're having the time of their lives. And I can't really prove anything.
Charles Rogers
I went to Finland in some, like, film school exchange situation where it was like, a week of, like, having to meet people. And I was, like, really trying to be personable the whole time. I was consistently shut down socially in every. Every way you can shut someone down at the end of. They were like, you know, when we first met you, we thought, you know, this. He was so forward. And we're not forward. And I was like, yeah. How do you think I felt? I was like, I was working overtime to make social situations work. And I'm a weird one. Worse for yourself. Oh, that's why I read the codependency book.
Bridger Weiniger
Now you can finally go back to Finn.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. Country of narcissism.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I'm so excited about Weiniger. I've got my T shirt, I've got my mask. I mean, you've really. You've changed everything for me.
Charles Rogers
Great.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm about to start my second chapter. I think we should play a game. We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number between 1 and 10 from you.
Charles Rogers
10.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. I have to. I have to do some, like, calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.
Charles Rogers
Oh, God. I mean, you can just follow on me in Instagram where nothing happens anymore. I met G, Charles Rogers. That's the English spelling of Rogers. R O G. No, that's the French. The French. Norman spelling is R O D, G is the English Anglo spelling. And I'm going to make another TV show. I hope to God. I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Bridger Weiniger
That's exciting.
Charles Rogers
I hope. I hope it all happens. You never know.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, everything's insane. But I think people want you to make another TV show.
Charles Rogers
I hope so. I mean, I hope they do. I Don't know anymore. The world's scary.
Bridger Weiniger
The world's very odd. But I feel like eventually people maybe when a very late adopter to this podcast.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Can this will be a commercial for your show.
Charles Rogers
That would be nice.
Bridger Weiniger
It's perfect. This is how we play Gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going to tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers.
Charles Rogers
I think I'm going to be right. I think. I know. You might argue.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, we'll see. We shall see. Okay, this first one is from our mega tier of suggestions from a listener named Christina. Gift or a curse. Cashiers who ask you what you're doing tonight.
Charles Rogers
Wow. I think the obvious answer is curse. But I'm going to say gift because it's an opportunity to lie and it's an opportunity to find out what comes out of you in situations like that. And it's a good check in for your comfort level with strangers and your relationship to going out.
Bridger Weiniger
Correct.
Charles Rogers
I knew it.
Bridger Weiniger
And about beautiful logic. That's so fantastic. First of all, we love our cashiers.
Charles Rogers
Yeah, we do.
Bridger Weiniger
I love a visit with my cashier. And again, nothing. Anytime anyone asks me, what are you doing tonight? My mind goes blank.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
So why not just say whatever you want? You're never going to see this person again.
Charles Rogers
And it's very tricky because if you are doing something cool, then you don't want to be a. Be a.
Bridger Weiniger
No, you don't want to be like. Right.
Charles Rogers
But then if you're doing nothing, you.
Bridger Weiniger
Don'T want to be the loser that the cashier makes the cashier sad.
Charles Rogers
And you have to keep it simple because people can't handle more than a few words.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. You've got a probably six word plan. But then you get to see what. How they react you. The person behind you is wondering what's going on. Yeah, it's, it's. They're screaming before you even start talking.
Charles Rogers
Go, go.
Bridger Weiniger
No, I think it's wonderful. I think that cashiers should be prying into everyone's life.
Charles Rogers
Sweet cashier.
Bridger Weiniger
Who could ask for more? Who could ask for more? A feeling. I. I rarely feel closer to someone than when a cashier is dealing with a difficult customer. And we make eye contact.
Charles Rogers
Totally.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, the intimacy.
Charles Rogers
Totally. And I. Yeah. And the superiority. Oh, you feel. And then the overcorrecting of being estronized.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Your time to shine. And then you fumble Us.
Charles Rogers
You're, like, restoring. It's my role to restore their belief in humanity.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, you've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what happens next. Gift or a curse? This is from a listener named Ian. Gift or a curse. When someone knows something and asks you to guess.
Charles Rogers
When someone knows something and asks you to guess. I think curse. Honestly. Oh, gosh, no. Oh, God. It could go either way. I think that I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say gift because it is an opportunity to let someone else have the power and to work through what that does to your own interiority.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I hate to say it, you're wrong, because that was a real nice look at this, and you did give us some thought, because it's just annoying. I have to just be as straightforward with this as possible. What could be more irritating? And every time, I will just. I cut to the chase. I don't want to guess. I just say I don't want to guess. And if the person continues to push me to guess now the tension is through the roof, and I'm going to be wrong. And then what good comes from this, right?
Charles Rogers
It's usually good news. I don't think with bad news, people aren't like, guess. It's like, your mom died, so your.
Bridger Weiniger
Daughter'S in the hospital.
Charles Rogers
It's like, no, no, the cleaner didn't come.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, well, you got that one wrong. So your plans have been really ruined here. But here's one more chance you're an enemy. This is from a listener named Sunny. Gift or a curse. Cars with engines that shut down stop lights and then start up again when you hit the gas curse.
Charles Rogers
Why it's not worth it. Everything. The idea that, like, the consumer is responsible for saving the planet is a part of the matrix of wise that we're in right now. Like, it is absolutely up to the corporations. And, like, these inconveniences that we embrace in the name of, like, being a responsible consumer are delusional.
Bridger Weiniger
You are correct.
Charles Rogers
Okay, good.
Bridger Weiniger
This is the. I absolutely hate this device. First of all, nobody likes that feeling.
Charles Rogers
The turn off device, the turn off.
Bridger Weiniger
And then you're sitting at the light, you're freaking out, you're panicking, you're wondering. I never get used to it. And again, it's like, especially because it happens with gas cars. It's like, I'm already driving the gas car. What could this possibly be doing?
Charles Rogers
Any feature that prevents you from getting out of an emergency instantly. Like, my car. If I open the door while it's driving. It throws itself in park. Way more dangerous if someone is attacking me. Then I go through the windshield, it's like.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. I have, like, mine when I pull out, when there's traffic coming, like, half a mile away and I try to pull out, it stops.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And then it just puts me, like, it elevates my blood pressure.
Charles Rogers
Right. And, you know you're on death's door.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. None of that stuff really seems to be actually safe.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I can't believe this about yours, though.
Charles Rogers
Oh, the worst.
Bridger Weiniger
This is gonna lead to your death.
Charles Rogers
I. Something is. I've got a few. I've got a few players.
Bridger Weiniger
But, yeah, that's absolutely a curse, I think that. I can't imagine there's a single person on board with that.
Charles Rogers
I'm sure there's one person who's just like, I. This future.
Bridger Weiniger
Let me tell you, it's changed everything. What has it changed?
Charles Rogers
Because you want it to take little naps?
Bridger Weiniger
My car is a pet. Well, you got two out of three.
Charles Rogers
Oh, it's not.
Bridger Weiniger
Not. Not what you want.
Charles Rogers
I really came in trying to win.
Bridger Weiniger
It feels like this is something you're.
Charles Rogers
Learning from at the end of the day.
Bridger Weiniger
Annalise, do you have your gift or a curse?
Charles Rogers
I do.
Bridger Weiniger
What is it? Here we go.
Charles Rogers
When a restaurant manager comes to the table to check in to see how your meal was. Mm. I. It could go either way. I'm gonna say curse, because I guarantee it's when I'm in the middle. I'm almost to the punchline of my story, and that is undoubtedly when I'm interrupted time and time again in my life, and it is something God is trying to tell me. Um, but also manager. I like it when the owner. But I don't like it when the manager.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting. Interesting.
Charles Rogers
The owner is like, that's cool. And then the manager. It's like I said, we're fine. To everyone else.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm going to. I also will say curse. I. I feel like I see right through it. This is just kind of some little thing for them to. They're waiting for you to rat out a waiter or something. They're trying to. Because no one's going to be outright mean or complain to the manager's face. And also, if I want to talk to the manager, you'll hear me screaming at an employee. I want to talk to your manager.
Charles Rogers
So you think that they're coming around being like, so, you sure? You sure, Betsy? Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, Exactly. So I think it's a curse.
Charles Rogers
I used to say gift I used to say gift because it made me.
Bridger Weiniger
Feel a little special.
Charles Rogers
But then you started getting better kinds of attention. Exactly. Yeah. I read the codependency book. No, I recently went out to dinner with my father, like about two weeks ago. Okay, brag. Must be nice. Sorry. Went out to dinner and the manager was just like staring at our table for a while. Finally approached kind of menacingly. According to my dad.
Bridger Weiniger
This was all happening behind me.
Charles Rogers
And he goes, hi there.
Bridger Weiniger
How did you discover us?
Charles Rogers
First of all, like, already has an agenda. And I'm like, oh, I saw a.
Bridger Weiniger
TikTok about this place.
Charles Rogers
It seems you're not fucking Indiana Jones. And he said, well, what do you think of. We've been getting a lot of one star reviews lately. Oh, what do you think of that? Somebody gave me a one star review for the music and somebody gave me a one star review for having this special kind of bread. And I suddenly just saw this man unravel before my eyes. And I was just. Just trying to see if I'm going to give you a bad Yelp review. Wow. Please, please leave. That's a covert narcissist. You don't hate me. He's like being a sub. I was so ready.
Bridger Weiniger
And I bet you hate what I'm wearing.
Charles Rogers
I'll give you a one star review just for doing this.
Bridger Weiniger
Like I was.
Charles Rogers
I was having a good time. If you want it, I'll give it to you. Exactly. And now here we are. But that is such a life lesson.
Bridger Weiniger
Absolute curse.
Charles Rogers
This is not. It's about them and their insecurities as an employee, not about the actual experience you're having.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow. We all walk away winners here. Except for managers managing expectations. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast.
Charles Rogers
Don't ever point at me with all five fingers.
Bridger Weiniger
Pointing at five fingers is a spell.
Charles Rogers
That's a Voldemort.
Bridger Weiniger
You are sending an energy towards. Will you help me answer a listener question?
Charles Rogers
Of course.
Bridger Weiniger
People are writing into ice said no gifts. Gmail.com we have voice notes, but I feel like it's. We should read some of these emails on occasion or. These poor people, they're pouring their souls out to me and then, you know, I can't turn my back on everyone. Yes. Okay. This is Bridger and Guest. I live in a two story house with my husband and two dogs. And we live in a shoes off household. One dog relentlessly shreds while the shreds on the guitar.
Charles Rogers
It's like cartoon house sheds.
Bridger Weiniger
While the other one has curly hair and constantly Tracks in dirt and other sticks, leaves into the house. Okay. Since this person hates their dogs, my husband and I naturally split most of the chores throughout our day today. But one thing that I can't seem to get is his assistance with sweeping slash vacuuming our house when he wanted to get a rug in the living room against my protest due to the difficulty this would make for my regular sweeping. Are you following the sentence?
Charles Rogers
He wanted to get a. He wanted to get rug to make this sweeping more difficult. Is that what it was?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. And the. The writer is saying, because I need a. Now need to dust bust. Oh, I need to bust out the vacuum. He promised he would regularly vacuum the rug to prevent fur slash dirt buildup. Okay. So he got the rug and the compromise was, please let me get the rug. I'll vacuum it. Right. Okay. Unfortunately, I think I can count on one hand how many times he has vacuumed this rug. And he even wants to get more rugs for the hollow way. Sounds like he's in that book. He's addicted to rugs because he is scared of the dog slipping on the hardwood. Okay. This is a. I mean, we are reading a book. Unfortunately, he doesn't understand the additional obstacles this presents. In my sweeping quest, I have tried being both explicit and passive aggressive in trying to get his help in sweeping the floors, but with no success. How can I get my husband to help me clean the floors? Do I accumulate the dust slash fur that I regularly sweep up in a bin and dump it on his side of the bed? Bed? No. Do I just suck it up and keep sweeping on my own help? And that's from Derek.
Charles Rogers
I knew it was a man. Okay. I knew it was a gay guy. And that does affect my answer.
Bridger Weiniger
So what does he do? I mean, I don't know.
Charles Rogers
I think they say that if you. So Elizabeth Gilbert, who wrote Eat, Pray Love, says that if you don't can't identify a passion in life, you should follow your curiosity. So I think that we need to step out of the rubric of rugs and dogs and. And pursue. Well, what else is there? And what else. What else could I. Yeah, what else could. What could make me. What could give me purpose and Right.
Bridger Weiniger
Other than hating my husband? I mean, I feel like the.
Charles Rogers
That's perhaps too cold.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Charles Rogers
I do think that people. I. I like to be shook awake.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I think. I mean, I always go to leave him, but I think, what does he look.
Charles Rogers
I wish we knew what he looked like.
Bridger Weiniger
I know if he had sent a picture, we would have been able to say, well, this is worth sticking around for and letting him just kind of neglect you and be horrible. It'd be interesting if they have kids and they didn't mention.
Charles Rogers
Did they say.
Bridger Weiniger
No.
Charles Rogers
Did they not say the dog. The dogs.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. It seems like he's. He's not happy with his life. He doesn't like the things these dogs are doing. He doesn't like rugs at all.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
He doesn't like the husband. He doesn't like vacuuming.
Charles Rogers
I think. I think actually he enjoys this role of bitching. And I think he does love his life.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Charles Rogers
He likes to play. I mean, he's playing. He wrote into a podcast about this. So, like, he. He does enjoy, like, Right. Piercing through the veil.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Charles Rogers
This podcast right now. He does enjoy like. Like being like, oh, Derek. Like, I guess he's Derek. Maybe he's talking about.
Bridger Weiniger
He might be Derek too. This is one of those. It's a Derek Derek couple.
Charles Rogers
And the dogs are also Derek.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like if this went away, he'd be so bored and he'd have nothing to talk to his friends about at dinner.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
This is keeping the marriage alive.
Charles Rogers
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
The moment that Derek 2 starts sweeping or vacuuming, it's gonna flatten out. There's gonna be zero passion.
Charles Rogers
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
There are two dogs, so they can pretty much split up pretty evenly. There's not a big fight. And. Yeah, then it's over.
Charles Rogers
The law of twos.
Bridger Weiniger
Y. Yes. So Derek just let it lie.
Charles Rogers
Yeah. I think he's doing exactly what he likes to do. And I think he's got his nasty little game. I think he likes his nasty little game. And I think this is his opportunity to have a little spotlight on his little nasty game. And I think he's gonna play it every day for the rest of his life. And that's a. Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
And this is just gonna snowball into more and more risky behavior.
Charles Rogers
But we have to return. Protect ourselves. Yes. And we can't get sucked into this.
Bridger Weiniger
First and foremost, we have to distance ourselves from this email and Derek.
Charles Rogers
Hard boundary against these toxic. These toxic rug obsessed gay men.
Bridger Weiniger
Derek, don't write back in. Oh, Charles, we answered the question perfectly. My life is just the texture on my. In my life now is sweat, absolutely soaked, just wet and slimy. And I'm going to embrace it and be afraid of women.
Charles Rogers
I'm happy to have led you there.
Bridger Weiniger
Thank you for being here.
Charles Rogers
Thank you for having me listener.
Bridger Weiniger
The podcast is over. Hopefully you've, you know, given some thought to something. About what you're going to do with your day or at least had some sugar so you don't just slump over and die. Move on. Do what you need to do. I love you. Goodbye. I Said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Annelise Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on instagram @I saidnogift gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed.
Charles Rogers
I said no gifts.
Bridger Weiniger
You're pretty. Presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff.
Charles Rogers
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Podcast Summary: "Charles Rogers Disobeys Bridger"
Podcast: I Said No Gifts! A Comedy Interview Podcast with Bridger Winegar
Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Charles Rogers
Release Date: May 1, 2025
In this engaging episode of I Said No Gifts!, host Bridger Winegar welcomes Charles Rogers, a friend and sometimes adversary, to the backyard for a candid and humorous conversation. True to the podcast’s premise, Charles arrives bearing unexpected gifts, setting the stage for an evening filled with laughter, insightful debates, and playful games.
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into family life and the complexities of modern elementary schooling. Charles shares his apprehensions about the current school schedule, expressing discomfort with the routines he observes.
Charles Rogers [04:00]: "I have to get to class. It's been nice."
Bridger Winegar [04:07]: "How do you dare disobey me?"
Their discussion touches on the pervasive sense of community among parents, which Charles finds both comforting and overwhelming. The conversation evolves into a critique of societal norms surrounding parenting and education.
Charles Rogers [04:46]: "Strollers are satanic. The way families prioritize plastic vehicles over human lives is patriarchal."
Bridger Winegar [05:15]: "People get very touchy about it."
Bridger and Charles transition into a broader critique of contemporary culture, with references to classic TV shows and movies. They humorously dissect the enduring appeal of Little House on the Prairie and analyze the cultural impact of films like Orphan and The Bad Seed.
Bridger Winegar [00:57]: "What's going on? I've started watching Little House on the Prairie two episodes in. I truly don't know why the Ingalls family hasn't killed themselves."
Charles Rogers [12:00]: "We need to find out her real age. And I don't think we're ever going to."
Their banter extends to current TV networks and streaming services, including the speculative launch of family-oriented platforms by celebrities like Mario Lopez and Candace Cameron-Bure.
Charles Rogers [10:11]: "I think it's called the Great American Family. Is it? No, that's a show, I think."
A significant portion of the conversation delves into personal hobbies, particularly Charles's foray into fragrance making. He recounts his experiences in fragrance classes, highlighting the complexities and challenges of the craft.
Charles Rogers [28:07]: "There's rarely more than $10 worth of material in a bottle of perfume."
Bridger Winegar [30:03]: "One of many housewives."
The discussion underscores the introspective nature of hobbies and their impact on personal growth and self-perception.
Bridger introduces a playful game segment titled "Gift or a Curse," where Charles must categorize everyday scenarios based on their perceived benefits or drawbacks. The first two rounds involve:
Cashiers Asking About Your Plans Tonight
Charles Rogers [68:00]: "Gift – an opportunity to lie and gauge comfort with strangers."
When Someone Asks You to Guess Something They Know
Charles Rogers [69:48]: Initially guesses "Gift," but Bridger clarifies it as a "Curse."
Charles navigates these scenarios with humor and strategic thinking, showcasing his quick wit and the dynamic chemistry between host and guest.
In the final segment, Bridger addresses a listener named Derek's dilemma about household chores and conflict resolution with his husband. Derek seeks advice on motivating his partner to assist with sweeping and vacuuming without escalating tensions.
Derek's Email [76:03]: "I have tried being both explicit and passive-aggressive in trying to get his help in sweeping the floors, but with no success. How can I get my husband to help me clean the floors?"
Charles offers thoughtful insights, emphasizing the importance of communication and understanding underlying motivations.
Charles Rogers [78:10]: "Step out of the rubric of rugs and dogs and pursue what else could give me purpose."
Bridger Winegar [81:04]: "We have to distance ourselves from this email and Derek."
Their advice balances empathy with practical strategies, providing listeners with relatable solutions to common domestic challenges.
This episode of I Said No Gifts! masterfully blends humor with poignant observations on family, culture, and personal growth. Bridger and Charles's lively interaction offers listeners both entertainment and thoughtful reflections, staying true to the podcast’s comedic yet insightful ethos.
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