Chloe Radcliffe Disobeys Bridger

Summary

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I Said No Gifts! with Bridger Winegar

Episode: "Chloe Radcliffe Disobeys Bridger"

Release Date: May 21, 2026
Guest: Chloe Radcliffe

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Episode Overview

In this lively and offbeat episode of I Said No Gifts!, host Bridger Winegar welcomes comedian and writer Chloe Radcliffe for a delightfully meandering conversation marked by wit, self-deprecation, and the show’s signature gift-based antics. Despite Bridger’s stern instruction ("I said no gifts!"), Chloe—like all guests—ignores the rule and brings her own mysterious wrapped offering. What follows is a hilarious yet surprisingly intimate hour touching on the peculiarities of Craigslist, the etiquette of houseguests, neurotic childhood fears, friendship with objects, and the strange emotional terrain of holidays.

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Major Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Opening Banter and “Life Updates” (02:27–05:14)

• Bridger recaps his week: skyrocketing chocolate chip prices, an emotionally void picnic, avoiding a party and feeling satisfied about it, and “Little House on the Prairie” criticism:
  • "So I'm glad she's dead and I think that that's it." (04:13)
• Excitement over minor celebrity interaction: Taylor Frankie Paul liked an Instagram post, and Bridger considers escalating this to a new podcast “feud.”
• Intro of Chloe (“already basically introduced herself”) and her late arrival explained by a convoluted LA parking drama (05:15–07:02).

2. LA Houseguest Life and Late-Night Dog Drama (07:07–08:45)

• Chloe's stays in LA: Crashing at friends’ recently upgraded apartments, their full menageries, and coming home at 3am due to Netflix Is a Joke festival parties.
  • "One of the dogs absolutely fucking hates me... I'm sorry Mary and Drew, if you ever listen to this, little piece of shit who fucking hates me." (07:30)
• She confesses to disturbingly regular homecoming dog barks, sleep deprivation, and recaps her attempts not to drink during festival season.

3. Houseguest Etiquette & Thoughtful Gifts (08:49–13:14)

• Houseguest self-assessment:
  • Chloe claims she’s “a good houseguest,” though admits her bedroom is a disaster zone (“I let it get very, very messy, but I close the door” [09:27]).
• Host gifts: End-of-stay gifting habits—giant pack of toilet paper is her go-to.
  • “It's sort of funny. It's like cheeky enough to be charming, but it's also functional… It's not more fucking olive oil.” (09:59)
• For a picky, newly-upgraded friend, Chloe gave two giant art pieces she sourced from Facebook Marketplace, risking gift rejection:
  • “I think he would like them. And I think they're, like, going with the theme. They're, like, simple, but a little risky.” (11:48)
  • Bridger's take: “This feels so high stakes to me.” (11:50)

4. Free Finds & Craigslist Adventures (13:14–18:15)

• Craigslist & NYC sidewalk hunting:
  • Chloe’s bedroom: scored $700 light fixture for $20 (and biked it home), a sidewalk lucite shelf, an epic Bronx mirror mission with a friend and a borrowed station wagon.
  • “I'm usually a very aggressive rider. And I was like, it does not matter if it takes me two fucking hours to get home.” (15:38)
• Philosophy of secondhand shopping: The need for tenacity and rapid pouncing on good bargains.

5. Bedbugs, Immunity & Cheapness (18:15–24:38)

• Bedbug trauma: Chloe, immune to bites, used her boyfriend as a “bedbug canary.”
  • “Are you using me as a fucking bedbug canary in the coal mine?” (19:02)
• Declaration of non-germophobia and “grimy” tendencies:
  • "I'm, like, cheap, and I love trash, and I kind of love being dirty and grimy." (19:24)
• Self-mythologizing: Chloe insists, “I am strong and good,” with better than 20/20 vision and a streak of cocky pride mixed with self-loathing (“...also there's a part of me that's like, I'm such a piece of shit and I've never accomplished anything good…” [24:00]).

6. The Bagu Bag Color Controversy (20:29–23:24)

• Chloe and Bridger debate the color of a popular reusable Bagu bag:
  • Chloe: "Sand." Bridger: "Green." Official color: “Spanish olive.”
  • “This is a controversy that I'm willing to stir up again.” (20:27)
• Discussion on color perception becomes an existential moment.

7. The Gift Reveal: Sentimental Jewelry (25:13–32:13)

• Chloe bestows two bracelets: one inherited from her late grandma, another from a garage sale, neither actually worn by Chloe.
  • "For one of them, the one that you're holding... For my dead grandmother.” (29:08)
  • Bridger struggles to fit the tiny bangle, Chloe realizes it opens, and they joke about ponytails and horses.
  • "I feel guilty taking these from you."—Bridger (30:36)
• Reflection on family: Chloe didn’t know her grandmother well but cherishes the memory—and wonders if ignoring her advice about reading-in-the-dark cost her “even better vision” (32:13).
• Tangent: Alien vs Predator, dead bodies vs bedbug phobias.

8. Fears: Hantavirus, Rabies, and Dead Bodies (35:16–39:17)

• Bridger’s irrational childhood fear: Hantavirus, and the terrifying world of rodents.
  • “My biggest fear... for essentially my entire childhood? Hantavirus.” (35:16)
• Chloe’s #1 fear: bedbugs; #2: dead bodies.
• Rabies fear & research: Chloe’s deep dive after a cat bite, practical lessons in animal-borne disease risk, and her offhand assertion:
  • “I think I could beat rabies.” (39:17)

9. Reddit, Craigslist & Digital Subcultures (43:17–44:46)

• Reddit as “the only good part of the internet”:
  • "Now it's for everybody… Reddit has sort of lived the arc of the loser in high school who then keeps themselves together... as an adult, you're like, oh, that person is actually kind of cool.”—Chloe (43:51)
• Craigslist: seen as forever “the grunge place” and still a wonderland of risk and reward.

10. Gift Reflection: The Value of “Trash” Jewelry (48:42–51:45)

• Aesthetic analysis of the gifted bracelets:
  • Chloe: “It's just so… I mean, look at me.” (49:44)
  • They discuss the fashion context of big J Crew jewelry, Claire’s for adults, and the fate of objects with uncertain usefulness.
• "My gift is things that are in my house that I can't bear to just put out on the sidewalk."—Chloe (52:22)

11. Game Time: Gift or Curse (54:41–63:13)

• Game instructions (54:41): Chloe rates three things as “gift” or “curse,” justified:
  1. “Don’t yuck my yum”:
     • "Curse. I both hate the sound of the word yuck. And I hate the sound of the word yum. Bad sounds. Two terrible sounds." (55:06)
  2. Describing clothing as “buttery”:
     • "I think it's a curse. I hate online speak in real life." (57:20)
  3. Googling someone before a date:
     • "Curse... I think it's just, frankly, too much work. I'll know within 90 seconds based on how their face moves…” (60:23)
• Chloe wins, and both decry information imbalance and the inauthenticity of over-Googling before actual dates.

12. Recommendation & Self-Promotion Break (53:00–54:28)

• Chloe plugs her standup tour and solo show "Cheat" about cheating in every past relationship (Aug 19-20 at Joe’s Pub, NY).
• Recommendation: British comedian Stuart Laws, her boyfriend ("He can't relax. But he’s very, very funny." [54:04])

13. Listener Advice: Planning a Non-Patriotic 250th July 4th Celebration (63:22–69:41)

• “Jennifer” asks how to plan an inspired, not-super-patriotic event at a colonial house museum.
  • Chloe proposes honoring activism, free speech, civil engagement—“Highlighting civil engagement... how does voting at the local level impact...” (65:59)
  • Jokes about party games, Paul Revere role-play, and “guess how many jellybeans make 250" (67:49).
  • Suggests a subversive Springsteen score, and inviting local union leaders to perform as the E-Street Band.

14. Final Thoughts: Craigslist as Procrastination, Brooklyn Living & Parting Shots (69:41–71:22)

• Bridger vows to “renew hope in Craigslist” for entertainment and bargains, as Chloe offers practical Craigslist tips (saved searches, internal chat).
• Heartfelt sign-off (“Thank you for being here, listener. The podcast is over. I expect you to leave. Goodbye. I love you.” [71:22])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chloe on a dog she’s houseguesting with:
  “One of the dogs absolutely fucking hates me... little piece of shit who fucking hates me.” (07:30)
• Craigslist philosophy:
  “Craigslist is the kind of thing where... you might get killed or get a deal on a couch.”—Bridger (44:24)
• On gifting art to a picky friend:
  “From toilet paper to, like... here are massive pieces of art that you have to display.”—Bridger (12:18)
• Game answer, “Don’t yuck my yum”:
  “Bad sounds. Two terrible sounds. Yuck. Yum.”—Chloe (55:20)
• Reddit’s character arc:
  “Reddit has sort of lived the arc of the loser in high school who then... as an adult, you’re like, oh, that person is actually kind of cool.”—Chloe (43:51)
• On the “power” of costume jewelry:
  “I feel so powerful with these.”—Bridger (30:51)
• Planning for the 4th of July at a museum:
  “What about inviting local union leaders to speak in costume as Paul Revere, as Bruce Springsteen…”—Chloe (69:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|-------------| | Bridger’s Weekly Recap/Chloe Arrival | 02:27–05:15 | | LA Houseguest Life | 07:07–08:45 | | Houseguest Gifting Etiquette | 08:49–13:14 | | Craigslist/Marketplace Finds | 13:14–18:15 | | Bedbugs and Immunity | 18:15–24:38 | | Bag Color Controversy | 20:29–23:24 | | Gift Reveal: Jewelry | 25:13–32:13 | | Irrational Childhood Fears | 35:16–39:17 | | Reddit/Craigslist/Culture | 43:17–44:46 | | Jewelry/Fashion Context | 48:42–51:45 | | Game: Gift or Curse | 54:41–63:13 | | Listener Question: July 4 Event | 63:22–69:41 | | Closing Remarks & Sign-off | 69:41–71:22 |

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Tone & Style

True to I Said No Gifts!’ comedic DNA, this episode balances sharp, self-aware humor with loose, giggly absurdity and flashes of surprising sincerity. Both Bridger and Chloe are quick-witted, self-mockingly neurotic, and oddly passionate about inanimate objects and internet subcultures. The energy is intimate but irreverent, peppered with rants, improvisational humor, and tangents that ultimately circle back to thoughtful reflection on friendships, boundaries, and finding joy—or at least entertainment—in life’s minor struggles.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode is a quintessential I Said No Gifts! experience: an hour of tangential, joyful chaos that blends pop culture, DIY living, low-stakes drama (see: the great bag color debate), and surprisingly deep personal confessions (phobias, childhood embarrassments). Chloe’s Craigslist obsession and her practical-yet-sentimental recycling of jewelry become metaphors for cherishing the quirky, sometimes “unwanted” parts of ourselves and our routines. If you want a smart, funny, slightly chaotic hour in the company of two sharp comics, this episode is a must-listen.

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Transcript

[Chloe Radcliffe]

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[Bridger Weinicker]

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[Chloe Radcliffe]

When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. He ended. I said no gifts. Your presence is present enough, and I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Welcome to I said no gift. I'm Bridger Weinicker. Mmm. I'm here. What's happening? We're back. We're back together again. It's been a week. We're here.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I don't know what this says about me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

The guest is. I've made the guest extremely nervous. You just relax. This has nothing to do. It's entirely me. This is my problem. Don't bring your insecurity to my insecurity.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm projecting.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, this is just kind of how I'm existing now. I'm trying to think of even what's. I'm going back to the last few days, and I'm just trying to remember what's going on in my life. I think the big event was chocolate chip prices have gotten way out of hand. I don't know if you've been to the grocery store recently. I was there a couple of days ago, I had to go home empty handed. It's ridiculous. It's out of control. And so don't tell me about Trader Joe's more affordable chocolate chips. Of course I knew that I got those. But the. The brand I wanted, and I'm not going to mention it, has doubled in price since the last time I bought them. And then so that happened. I went to a picnic. That did nothing for me emotionally. Saturday night I drove to a party and then drove home without going to the party. That felt pretty good. And I'm sorry. I'm back in Little House on the Prairie. I started watching that again last night and in the episode Charles mom dies of whatever, and I had never been introduced to the character, so I didn't even. Who cares if she died? I don't think the audience cared that she died. And then we don't care that Charles cares. And then the episode became very boring. So I'm glad she's dead and I think that that's it. Let me see if I have anything in my document. Anything. Oh, do you know what was huge? This. I. We do need to mention this, Taylor. Frankie Paul has liked one of our Instagram posts and she of course is the kind of embattled Secret life of Mormon wives. Ex. She's not a wife currently, but, you know, she previous Bachelorette. We don't know if we'll ever see that footage, but she has reached out by liking a post. And this feels like we are now on the road to me being in a fight with the Secret Life of Mormon wife. Every journey begins with one step and I think this is it. So we'll keep our eye on that. And. Wow. I started with just kind of nothing, and then I brought an encyclopedia of things to talk about. But we should get into the show. Today's guest has already basically introduced herself. It's Chloe Radcliffe. Chloe, let me in there. Welcome to. I said no gifts.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'm sorry. You know, the energy was just. I don't know. I'm already on my second Diet Coke here.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, I've been in the studio for 20 minutes.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, you're going. Oh, this isn't like you don't wake up with your first Diet Coke.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I have coffee and then I had a second coffee. Then I got here and I thought, I'll have a sip of a diet Coke and then you. 10 minutes late.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, no, it's on me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Let's just say it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's on me. 10 minutes late. Look I will cop to it now, was I almost certainly going to be running five minutes late if somebody hadn't parked me in and then I got an incredible excuse to be 10 minutes. Absolutely.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's kind of the ideal thing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, love blaming my own problems on somebody else.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, you get like you're half guilty at that point and so just let the other person be fully guilty. Who was parked behind you?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

A friend, a laborer.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, so you're making a nice.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

A nice man who is, you know, probably very scared of most of his. Most days at this point, you're going

[Bridger Weinicker]

around screaming at people to get out of your way. I'm on my way to record a podcast.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Who's the brown man who's painting an apartment below the apartment where I'm staying? Get him out from behind my car. No, he's very, very sweet. He moved the car.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's that. I think that's just a common issue in Los Angeles. I don't know that many people outside of this city run into. Oh, the driveway had four cars in it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And they're all slightly related to each other.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. What?

[Bridger Weinicker]

You know, like, he was probably. He was working on a friend's apartment of your friend. And you're.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Not even living there.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That. That actually might be true. I think. I haven't asked. I haven't asked my friend who I'm staying with, but they just moved in the same building within the same building. So I wonder actually if he's painting their old apartment.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, interesting. Your friends separately moved into the same building as in.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm staying with a couple.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

They were in one apartment and now they moved to a different apartment in the same, like, fourplex.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, why?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think it has one extra bedroom.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And that is the bedroom that I'm staying.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That you're staying.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah. Surprise.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And there are two cats. You mentioned there's two cats.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

There was two dogs. It's a full house. I've been coming home at somewhere between three and four every morning. Cause I'm here for Netflix as a joke.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And so the after parties are going until 2:30 and then I get home at 3 and whatever. And one of the dogs absolutely fucking hates me. And she's this little piece of shit. I'm sorry, Mary and Drew, if you ever listen to this little piece of shit who fucking hates me. And so at 3:15 every single morning has been, I'm sure, waking up this entire building and the building next to it, and I'M like, I don't have. I can't do anything about it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

She's yapping away.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

She's yapping away. The survey says I probably shouldn't have stayed there. But hey, at this point we're in for a penny and for a pound.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So what do you do while she's yapping? You're just quietly tiptoeing in or you're just so wasted you barely notice?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh yeah, I'm driving. Blackout on the 405. No, no, no, no. The only way that I've been surviving these late nights. You can hear my voice is like it's very tired. The only way I've been surviving is not drinking. That's my cause. It's like, it's rough enough.

[Bridger Weinicker]

The idea of just being awake to that point is being awake to that point.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And then I've done somehow I've had like morning events the last few days and yeah. So I've not been getting very much sleep.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So my secret is making the schedule or somebody else I.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And someone else then comes to me and goes, what about all these things? But I am the one going, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

[Bridger Weinicker]

How do you think you are as a house guest?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think when every living being in the apartment respects me, I respect every living being in the apartment.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You're really setting up some. How about that justification of bad behavior? What does that even mean? So you're horrible.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm horrible. No, I think, look, I think I'm a good house guest. The room, whatever room I'm staying in, I tend to let be very, very messy.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Sure, that makes sense.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But I close the door, right. And anything outside of that room, I'm sort of like. It's not, you know, it's my job to not track any mess around.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I think that that's totally fine to leave that room messy. That's your real private space when you're the house guest. No one else is using it at the time. As long as you leave it clean enough when you leave.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm a big buy gifts at the end of a stay person. And what are you getting this time? I will probably. This house, my. My base is a big giant pack of toilet paper.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, smart.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Because it's like everybody likes it. Everybody uses it, everybody. It's like, it's sort of funny. It's like cheeky enough to be charming, but it's also like functional. I'm not trying to guess. It's not a fucking hundred dollar candle.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right? Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's not more fucking Olive oil. It's like, yeah, olive oil. And honestly. What's so funny? I think in la everybody gets each other olive oil. I actually could use some goddamn olive oil. But I never have houseguests in New York. Somebody send me fucking olive oil.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, I would have. I don't even know what I would do with more olive oil. I would have to be pouring it down the sink.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Coating well that way. That way. Everything else slips down the sink.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's the disposal. Would thank me, probably.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I did get. Last time I was in la, a couple months ago, I stayed with a friend who had just moved into. I keep finding people who have just moved. I'm being like, when people have just gotten in. Yes. I want to make your place uncomfortable. A friend had just moved and this was like a big upgrade for him. He has been living below his means for a very long time.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And he was very picky about where he was moving and he's very particular about his space and rightly so. And he's like, hot and cool and, you know, probably OCD and has his. You know, his life is very, like, regimented.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

So he had finally picked this place. And then me, a tornado, a sort of haunted house for neurodivergent people, comes in and like, plops down in his life.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But I got him two pieces of art. Wow. Big pieces of art that I was like, I don't think he would ever pick these, but I think he really. I think he would like them. And I think they're, like, going with the theme. They're, like, simple, but a little risky.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This feels so high stakes to me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. But I kind of love. And I picked him out on Facebook, Marketplace, and I drove to fucking Irvine. Is that a place that's far away?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, it's. At least. That's probably an hour and a half.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I drove over an hour in both directions, got these two big pieces of art. He said he really likes them.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Do we know if they're on the walls yet?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I haven't been back.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Ask for a video tour.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. How's your place feeling?

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's such a.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

How are you settling in?

[Bridger Weinicker]

What a swing. From toilet paper to, like. Here are massive pieces of art that you have to display.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. To, like, a taste. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But that's kind of nice, actually, because picking art for yourself is also really high stakes where, like, I'll be paralyzed. I'll be like, well, I just will never put anything on my walls because I can't figure it out for Somebody to just be like, here's something. Put this on the wall.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Here you go.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And they were. I knew, basically, they're like, fairly simple, actual pieces of art. They're just little, like, sort of beach nature scenes, but they were matted in these huge frames with tons of matting around it. And it makes this, like, kind of dramatic statement.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But they're very simple. And that's what made me be like, I think this guy who likes kind of simple things.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But got this giant fucking place that can swallow a bunch of art.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Sure, sure.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. You need as much art as you can get, basically, if you have a ton of space. Yeah.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow. Very interesting.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's my.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I mean, they may have just ended up back. Ended up back on Facebook. Marketplace.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I told him. I was like, you can. You can. You can drop these off at Goodwill. I do not. I will not feel bad.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What did you do? You just hopped on Marketplace and typed in art and went crazy?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think I typed in, like, huge poster. And then I also was looking for, like, some, like, modern, funky, like, simplistic, but modern. Interesting. Like Bauhausy or, like, 80s.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Again, stuff that's simple but can still pop.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Stylish, but not, like, going overboard.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. And then I just looked at Marketplace for, like, a week. And then your algorithm learns. Oh, and then it starts feeding me shit.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And then it fed me these things, and they were far away, and. Because they were far away and they had bad photos.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Nobody. I could. I could.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Bad photo. I mean, of course, is the secret to anything. Renting, whatever. So you have a Facebook. See, my problem is I no longer have a Facebook profile. So Facebook Marketplace cannot learn about me. It's my sister's, so it's like, I'll log in every once a year, and it'll be like, here are some kitchen tables in Utah. And it's just like, well, I don't. This isn't what I'm looking for.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, my house in Utah already has a kitchen table.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'm drowning in kitchen tables in Utah. It's the last thing I need, but you're on there. How often are you getting something on Facebook? Marketplace.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I used to be more of a hound for it, but I will say I go on Craigslist free listings multiple times a day. Oh, wow. Just a scan.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, interesting. Have you found anything good?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, the best.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Like what?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think it's worth me showing you the photo.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I mean, I'm asking.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay. Okay, good.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I want to see what's happening here. I've had zero luck. Usually it's like a CD tower.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Well, so this is the thing. This is why I have to. This is why you have to go on it multiple times a day. Because there's. Not that. This is. What I'm about to describe is a really bad explanation, but there's not that many good things, which means that the good shit goes quickly.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And so you kind of gotta be on top of it. Okay, let's see if I can find. So this is my bedroom.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Oh, beautifully appointed bedroom.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Thank you. That light fixture that was free is a. It was $20. It is a $700 light fixture. I found it on Craigslist. I biked there. I bike everywhere in New York. I strapped that thing to my backpack. I have a picture of me riding through. It's literally sitting, like, feet out from me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's like having a wingspan.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Truly. I had to go so slowly and be so careful. I'm usually a very aggressive rider. And I was like, it does not matter if it takes me two fucking hours to get home.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What? Why did you rent a car?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Because I'm. Because I'm. I am the cheapest person I have ever met.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, you've met your match.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You've. Absolutely.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay, great. Oh, thrilling.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Don't even push me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Great, great. The. Do you see the. The, like, Lucite shelf on the left? The clear thing?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Yeah.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That came from the sidewalk. Wow. In New York.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Listener. How would you describe the light fixture? Because it's probably. How big do you think that is? It's probably like four feet across.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, it's probably three to four feet across. And then probably like three feet. It was probably four feet in length. And then my ex cut it, like, trimmed the top.

[Bridger Weinicker]

After you had biked it?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

After I had biked at home.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And it's kind of like two arches connected to each other.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. It's like very architectural.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's so beautiful.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Thank you so much. Thank you. It's one of my proudest. How far was the bike ride normally? That was probably like a 20 minute ride. And I probably took 45 minutes to get home. The big mirror.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's worth it, though.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This big mirror fixture free on Craigslist. What, in the Bronx. And I borrowed a friend's station wagon. A friend who lives way the fuck out in Brooklyn. Like, in one direction, as far from the Bronx as you can get. Borrowed their station wagon. Made another friend come with me on this adventure. I was like, we haven't hung out in a while. Do you want to go on a weird friend adventure and then we can talk on this long ride? He came up with me to the Bronx. We put it in the station wagon. Couldn't close the trunk, of course.

[Bridger Weinicker]

See, that's an enormous mirror.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Drove it home.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

He helped me get it in. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow. Good for you. I feel like this sort of thing is easier to do in New York. Getting good free fines.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I think because maybe because in New York there's less space. So when something has to go, it just has to go. Even if it's good la, it'll probably just end up in another part of your house for a really long time.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Unless it's true garbage.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Sure.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And then people are like, I'll probably just literally throw it away rather than give it away.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah. Like there's way less, like on the sidewalk, you know, in New York you can just walk around and things on

[Bridger Weinicker]

the sidewalk in LA are. They're non starters.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

The problem is things on the sidewalk in New York will give you bedbugs.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, I think that's probably true in LA too. There's at least bedbugs living in there, if not more. Living in these things. I mean, creatures galore. You're really asking for it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

If you.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Occasionally I'll be tempted, but I just think. I think like a mirror, that would probably be something you could pick up off.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Do bedbugs get in mirrors?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

They're always looking at themselves.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They're very vain.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's one of our most vain bugs.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Every one of them.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Have you ever had bedbugs?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Absolutely nightmare. It is the thing I am the most scared of in my entire life.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Of course. It just feels like a plague.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

When was this?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

2019. And what you're saying, you're just crawling in bed? It is the scariest thing in the world to me most primarily because I do not react to the bites. And so I only discovered it because my boyfriend at the time reacted to the bites. And so then we weren't living together. And so I would keep being like, hey, babe, you want to come over after? I, like, was pretty sure I eradicated them. I was like, you want to sleep over tonight? And he was like, are you using me as a fucking bedbug canary in the coal mine? Are you using me as like a little test? And I was like, no, I miss you. I want to see you.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So you're immune to bedbugs? Why?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'M strong and cool.

[Bridger Weinicker]

We need to, like, map your DNA or something that feels I consume.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I wonder what's going on.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm also one of the least germophobic people I've ever been around.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. So this is all adding up with just bringing furry things into your house.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm, like, cheap, and I love trash, and I don't. And I love. I kind of love being dirty and grimy.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I've showered. Don't worry.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You look very clean.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, thank you. I did my hair. I sort of got the sense that this was a clean. This is a clean.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This is one of those clean sanitary podcasts you hear about. There's something else I want to. There are two things I actually want to talk to you about, but the first is kind of a controversial issue. When you came in, you were holding a bagu bag, which I formerly had this exact same bag. Okay, let's bring it on camera. Do you want to grab it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. This is a controversy that I'm willing to stir up again. This bag was given to me by my sister in a couple of years ago for a birthday. And I thought, oh, that's such a beautiful bag. What a beautiful green bag. And then I lived my life for two years. Two. No, probably three years, thinking, wow, I have a beautiful green bag in my life. And then somehow it got brought up to another human being, and I said, oh, I have. We've gotta get my green bag.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Go grab my green bag. It's over there. Go grab my bag. You'll know it. It's green.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And the avalanche of people just questioning my view of the world because everyone said it was yellow. You came in and I said, what color do you think that bag is?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. And what did I say?

[Bridger Weinicker]

You said sand. Yeah, I said sand, which I had not heard yet.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. I mean, look, I will stand behind sand. I. This is. It's yellowish. I mean, I could call this yellow. I'd call it gold, maybe. There's no fucking world in which this is green.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Would you say there are green undertones?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You know what? Actually, unfortunately, yes, Unfortunately, I would actually say that this is like. It is a greenier yellow. It's not green.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, do you know what the official name is?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, what is it?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Spanish olive?

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No.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I did a lot of digging. I had to do a lot of digging to kind. I mean, this is.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, my fucking God.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'm the one being gasless. I had to prove that my reality was true. Now you're grabbing yellow objects, green objects. Okay, so this is like. It's the deodorant that. I think a cold buyer brought that actually.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And it has a yellow cap. No, that's not true. How dare you. Chloe just grabbed a green object and a yellow object and tried to convince me that the yellow.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

So this is okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, my God. That scared me for a split second. I was like, oh, no.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This is the adrenaline portion of the.

[Bridger Weinicker]

My heart is pounding. I'm sweating.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'm just questioning my entire past at this point.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You're not colorblind?

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, no. I go to the optometrist once a year. They do the whole test.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Do they do a colorblind test?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. Have you ever done the. It's very fun, actually. You get to look at, like. They'll have like a letter that's made of dots.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You have to like, kind of pick out if what the letter is or something.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Why do you go to the optometrist once a year?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Because I have contacts.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So I've got to re up my prescription.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I have better than 2020 vision. I've.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What does that mean?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

X ray vision? Yeah, yeah. That's what I can see better than. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually true. So I can fly fighter jets. Get me in. Is that military?

[Bridger Weinicker]

You kind of look like you should be flying nade you're in a jumpsuit right now.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This sort of. I also sort of feel powerful holding this juicer. You know, I have my weird little kingdom now. You know, I have my. What is this called? What is it? A scepter?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Lime? Yeah. That's a scepter.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, I have my scepter. I have my bag in front of me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And you've got, like a weapon. You've got a spray. Deodorant spray. An attacker. Wow.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But this better than 2020 vision like that just feels made up to me. What does that mean in practical terms?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I mean, I think it means. I think it means I see real good. I don't know, it just means I've.

[Bridger Weinicker]

The. An optometrist told you that?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

A nurse told me that.

[Bridger Weinicker]

A nurse. Okay. So now we're getting into some territory of a non professional, non expert, I would say.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But I. I read the whole eye chart.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Wow. I don't think I've ever been able to do that.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, I think you could. I think 2020 is like, gets to a line and then there's below.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Fascinating. You are immune from bedbugs. Better than 2020 vision. Again, like, what's happening DNA wise.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I mean, yeah, look, I genuinely. I think I am strong and good. And the fact that this is such a real part of me, this sort of incredibly cocky, proud of myself, grimy, weird, little monster. And then also there's a part of me that's like, I'm such a piece of shit and I've never accomplished anything good in my life and I should quit. I should give up now. And that part comes out when I drink. So it's actually good. I think you're getting this because I haven't been drinking recently.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, interesting. Yeah. We can thank the festival for this.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, for whatever. Whatever arrogant shithead I'm being right now.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, I mean, speaking of things that a piece of shit would do, I was so excited to have you here on the podcast today.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm excited to be here.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I thought, you know, Chloe will come by, we'll just have a nice conversation and just move on. The podcast is called I said no Gifts. So I was absolutely floored when you came trotting into the studio holding this Austin Powers level bag, kind of psychedelic gift bag.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This is for me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It is for you. I. Look, this bag is my signal that I understand that we have slightly different vibes. Right. I cleaned myself up for this. I bought a flower bag. I didn't. I had it in a Vons plastic bag that I got out of the gutter. But then I was like, I don't think Bridger is gonna like this. I think I need to have a nicer wrapping vessel. So that's why I got the flag.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I feel like I'm gonna reach in and something's gonna bite me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Now there are two items in here.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Should I take them out in specific order?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, no, no. I think they can come out together.

[Bridger Weinicker]

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[Chloe Radcliffe]

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[Bridger Weinicker]

I think I've got.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Ooh.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, these are gorgeous.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm so glad.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What are these bracelets? Or are these for, like, a gorgeous ponytail?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Look, if you can find a ponytail

[Bridger Weinicker]

fat enough, imagine the hair.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Incredible. I think that actually would go around the tail of a pony.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, wow. Can you imagine the pony?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Pretty pony with this thing on. Yeah. That's the princess of the farm.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. And she goes drunk with power.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Starts killing other animals.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

He starts holding a scepter.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Tramples the farmer's wife.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

These are bracelets. For

[Chloe Radcliffe]

who? Well, for one of them, the one that you're holding in your right hand. For my dead grandmother.

[Bridger Weinicker]

How big was her hand?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

She was a tiny, tiny, tiny New York Jew.

[Bridger Weinicker]

She must have been like 4ft tall.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

She truly was under 5ft.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And it shocks me that that could possibly have not slipped off of her hand, but, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Whoa.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It must have just been very annoying. You Know, sort of jangling around because

[Bridger Weinicker]

there's no way I could fit this around three fingers. I don't have big hands.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, it does open.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It does open. Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

We were going in different directions. I was saying.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay, then I'm putting these on immediately.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay, good. You put them on and then this one that just pulls apart. No, no, no. At the. That's the spring. Yes. There you go. Yeah, yeah, you got it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow, I'm feeling so pretty already.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Look at that.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And is this also your.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This one? No, that one I got at a. I think I got it at a garage sale.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I genuinely love that one.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I have spent years. I'm gonna wear it someday, and I never have.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Why not?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I've never figured out a time to wear that.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Did you bring these to. Cause you're here from New York.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Did you bring these for the podcast?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Brothers for the.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They're beautiful.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And they're just two things that I never, ever, ever wear. And I think at this point, I never will wear. But I don't want them to just.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I was like, just be nothing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I don't want them to be nothing.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And so they're here.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I feel guilty taking these from you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, no, no, no.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's very ra taking anything from a guest.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Well, good. Honestly, I think based on the vibe that I've given so far, you wouldn't expect that I brought something you'd feel guilty taking.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I feel so powerful in these.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm thrilled.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow. So did you have a good relationship with your grandma?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I kind of barely knew her.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

My dad was the youngest of four, and then he had me when I was 14, when I was 43, it

[Bridger Weinicker]

was a very strange birth. Father giving birth to a 40 year old.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I came out. I came out, you know, hair dye in hand. I'm starting to go gray. I gotta cover this up. Somebody get me a white wine with ice cubes. I really came up with an attitude. No. He was 43 when I was born, and he is the youngest of four. And so my grandmother was 80 when I was born.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And she lived in New York, and I was born in Philly. But then my dad. My parents split up when I was a baby, and my mom moved back to Minnesota, where she was from originally, and she brought me. And so I grew up visiting my grandma once a year, kind of. So I didn't really know her. And then at her funeral, my cousins, who are all like 20 and 25 years older than me, were all like, we loved all these memories of Grandma. Grandma giving us back rubs, Grandma making us brownies, Grandma. And I was like, God, I have kind of one memory of Grandma and that was her telling me to turn on a light. Cause I was reading in the dark and it was gonna hurt my eyes. And you what that means I would have had even better vision.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's right. Oh, my God. You'd be unstoppable. You'd be Predator.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But at least I could kill Alien.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. Does Predator kill Alien in Alien v Predator? Yeah.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I don't know.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Do we know who the winner was?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I assume there is a sequel to Alien v Predator.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I bet there's a truce. I bet they come together as friends, right?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Hey, buddies. The last shot is Alienated Predator sitting on one of those, like, rocking swings that old people have in their front yards as the sun goes down over a lake.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They're on a tandem bike. We have more in common than we think.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wow, look at that.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Alien. Yeah. I wonder. I feel like Predator probably won. Predator's probably more of a. I feel like Predator could wear pants. Like, it's the sort of creature that, like, is one step above Alien, which is just kind of a giant bug.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Alien, yes. Alien in pants does need to cut like a hole for its tail, right?

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's like. It's more like. I can imagine Alien using a litter box more than Predator.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes, yes. Predator shits into a hole that it has lasered into the ground. And then it sort of lasers its own shit into little ash and then uses that ash to make a map of where Alien lives.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Very resourceful.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah. Chloe, where did that improv come from? I have no idea.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Where did that fanfic come from? I think we're both passionate about these two Alien insults. So you had very few memories.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Have you seen Alien 3 Predator? Sorry. We had a real clear off ramp there.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I haven't. Have you?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I guess neither of us have because. Neither. Unless it has a very forgettable ending, which it could. I love Alien the movie.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I think Alien is one of my all time favorites, to be honest. I think it's so good.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I saw it once when I was 14 and I was with my dad and I was sick and my dad called my mom and he was like, what do I do with her? She's sick and she's fucking boring. And my mom said, I don't know, sit her on the couch and watch a movie. And he said, great, this is the perfect time for us to watch Aliens. I was sick at 14 and TV.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's stressful to be watching while sick.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. I remember liking the movie, but I remember almost nothing about it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, it's fantastic. It's really great. But then the rest of them, I'm not that crazy about.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I remember Aliens.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's not for me. People like that movie. Not for me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay. All I remember about that is big wall of dead bodies.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, interesting.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's the only thing I remember. Cause dead bodies is my number two fear. After number one, bed bugs.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, just dead bodies.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I guess that's a pretty natural fear to have.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This is the reaction everybody has. And I'm like, no. I think for me, it's like. I'm, like, more freaked out. I'm like. I'm more. They, like, really get me, like. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's kind of a better than 2020 situation. I have an edge on being scared of dead bodies.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

More afraid of dead bodies than most people are. Not to brag.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Do you know what my biggest fear was for essentially my entire childhood? Hantavirus.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No. Cause you're in Utah, where there is hantavirus.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So, I mean. And probably a big fear for me as an adult is going on a cruise. So, like, these things combining.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

What has the last two weeks been like for you?

[Bridger Weinicker]

There really was a day where I was like, I have to. I've just got to not think about this. I need to find just a reasonable news article that's not stoking any flames, because I think that fear could get out of control.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, my God. And do you have any kind of, like, OCD tendencies or, like, hypochondriacal tendencies?

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I don't really. I mean, at. But through that fear, as a kid, there were years where I was not able to sleep alone. And when I would sleep, I would cover my entire body up to my head, worried that a mouse might come in and bite me or give me hantavirus.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wow. Wait, can you get hantavirus from a mouse bite?

[Bridger Weinicker]

I don't think so, but I think I was just covering my base.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Yes. That makes sense. Wait, did you not want to sleep alone because of your hantavirus fear?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Yeah. Hantavirus was absolutely horrifying to me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It is.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It is.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You're right. I'm gonna say you win this.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's uncurable.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Correct.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's really a bad. I'm not trying to scare anybody. It seems like things are under control. It seems like something that's slow to spread.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. And effective at killing.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Which is kind of good.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. For an epidemic.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. I learned that about rabies recently. Like. Like it's hard to get rabies because most from small animals because it'll usually kill them before they get to you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Sure.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So that rabies was another. Most of my fears were rodent based as a child.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Interesting. Any other rodent based fears?

[Bridger Weinicker]

I think those were the two big ones. Just essentially being bit by a mouse was scary.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Big, big bad. What if you got bit by a larger animal?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Who cares?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Fine. Right.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Take an arm.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Amazing. Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What are we doing? It won't give me your abies.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Not using it. Yeah. Back in Minnesota. I grew up in Minnesota and started comedy in Minnesota and the neighbor's cat, which was like a semi outdoor cat, bit me once and it bit me a lot. But this one time sort of seemed weird. And I researched rabies and everything. Said it takes like 10 days to travel from. It bit me on the hand and it takes 10 days to travel from. Do you know all of this? Have you done all this research?

[Bridger Weinicker]

You should have been there.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you still afraid of rabies?

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[Bridger Weinicker]

I mean actually I wouldn't mind giving it a spin to be honest.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I've gotta cure for this thing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Give yourself something interesting. Finally.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. I've got nothing else on my schedule.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. It turns out that it takes 10 days to travel from your extremity to your brain. And it's only bad when it's in your brain. If it stays in your hand, that's fucking fine. Who cares? Get rabies in your hand, you're totally fine. Not a big deal. And within that 10 days, it's only transmissible if it's already in your brain. And so if the animal dies within those 10 days, if it's in your brain, it's gonna kill you within a couple days.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And so you just have to see if the animal dies within the next like week. If you can keep track of the animal, that's the big weird. Tough, tough with a mouse fear because

[Bridger Weinicker]

you can't lose track of the mouse. It's headed into its mouse hole.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's out in the field. Goodbye.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, that's tough. But with a cat, I put a

[Bridger Weinicker]

calendar and just waited to see if you were going to die.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Is the cat die and then the cat was alive a week later. I'm so fun.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I got the scar rather than seeing a doctor or anything.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. What am I gonna do for exactly.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Would they be able to tell?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, I think they can't tell. I think they just give you a round of the vaccinations.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Just preventatively. And I think the rabies vaccines are really unpleasant.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, because you're getting a bit of rabies.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But I am inoculated naturally.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This can't possibly be true.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think I could beat rabies.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You're playing with fire. Wait, you're inoculated? Why? What?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

A nurse told me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No. Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I thought that I was inoculated because this cat bite, but now I'm doing the math. The cat didn't have rabies, so I'm not inoculated yet. But I really do think I feel in my bones that my body is stronger than rabies.

[Bridger Weinicker]

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[Chloe Radcliffe]

Mm, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

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[Chloe Radcliffe]

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[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wait, has? Seriously? Have you had, like, bad days over the last couple weeks about hantavirus?

[Bridger Weinicker]

There was just the one day when, like, you know, obviously because of COVID like the flashbacks to that of like, I remember seeing people, like, making little jokes about it and being like, well, I don't know if I really. And that's what was starting to happen. Like people in their Instagram stories making a joke about it. I was like, trying to stay centered in some way where it's like, this is different.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And it's hard to get reasonable information.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Because every news story is like, well, and this person, they have made it onto the land or whatever. It's like, well, yeah, but we know them where they are or whatever. This can be contained.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Well, the scary thing was the flight attendant, Right? Wasn't there a flight attendant?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay, I didn't know there was a flight attendant.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think somebody who's not. Who wasn't on the boat got sick, but I think, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think we won't really know for a few weeks, right? No, no, no, no, no. Do you go on Reddit at all?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Reddit. Reddit.

[Bridger Weinicker]

In the last couple of years, a recent Reddit convert, I made fun of it for a long time. I thought that it's only for straight men, but now it's the only good part of the Internet.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It is the only good part of the Internet. It's the only one left.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. It's the only place where you can answers from human beings. It's so crazy.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I just type whatever I want to type into Google and then I just put Reddit.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. That's the only way to find an answer at this point. It's ridiculous. Yeah.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Well done, Reddit. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Good for them for kind of sticking it out as kind of just a place where people could talk about Christopher Nolan. And now it's for everybody.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And now everybody can talk about Christopher Nolan.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Now we can finally get in.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Reddit has sort of lived the arc of the loser in high school who then keeps themselves together, is just committed to their identity for long enough that then as an adult, it become. You're like, oh, that person is actually kind of cool.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They're pretty solid. They're dependable, and they've been true to themselves.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, they're, like, interesting. They didn't go with all the trends.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right. Hopefully they can keep that. I mean, that's the same with Craigslist. Actually, Craigslist is. I mean, basically, Craigslist is the grunge place. Yeah. But it's always been that way. It's always been a place that you might get killed or get a deal on a couch.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. And Craigslist is the kind of thing where it's like, Craigslist is living the life of the emojis. Grunge piece of shit kid who then is like, I'm never gonna have kids and is never gonna have children. And now, as an adult, when everybody else has children, is the cool person

[Bridger Weinicker]

for not having a child completely. And everyone gets to have fun with them and just like, you can go to them for drugs, basically.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can go to them for drugs, absolutely.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What happened to the Craigslist killer? Do we know what he's up to?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think another Craigslist killer got him. He died by suicide. For real? Yeah. August 15, 2010. But was it like the police are closing in? He was awaiting trial.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Sure. Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Rip.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Honestly, at that point. Yeah. Do it go out?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, just. It's time to go. You've done your Craigslist killing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. You've taken a lot of lives. Take your own life.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Was he taking a lot of lives?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

He was convicted of murdering three men in Ohio. Wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Crazy. Okay, so bye.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

See, and to me, you know what the scariest part of that is? Their bodies after they're dead.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, exactly. None of that else is terrifying to you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's fine, fine.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Just don't let me see what happened

[Chloe Radcliffe]

because I think I could reason with a Craigslist killer.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You're putting. Again, putting yourself in very dangerous territory.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dangerous territory. And I'm making a real cocky announcement

[Bridger Weinicker]

that's just going to go out to the. You're going to have to really vet what you get from Craigslist at this point.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I wouldn't mind if you just run them by me from now on.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay. Okay. I'm gonna hit you up.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'M happy to get in touch with these. I can't be responsible for you being Craigslist killed.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah. Cause you are now gonna feel complicit.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Of course we've talked about it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Hey, Bridger, I'm gonna go pick up a printer that only half works. What do you think?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Now this is something you gotta get.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where else am I gonna get that for free?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well. Wow. I've got these. I feel like we haven't talked about these at all.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Are you a big jewelry person?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I like rings.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's a nice ring. Where did that come from?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Facebook Marketplace.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I haggled for it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Listed for 35. I came in at 25. We sell it at 30.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What was your initial offer?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

25.

[Bridger Weinicker]

25.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So they just met you?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

They met me at 30.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, at 30. Okay. At 30. Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I biked from Ridgewood, where I live, to Long Island City and I met her on a sidewalk outside of a trader Joe's at 9. 30 at night.

[Bridger Weinicker]

For a single ring.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

For a single ring.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And then did you slip it on and ride home?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No. Then I think I went to a stand up show. I think I was like on my way to a spot.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But did you wear it to the show? Flashy new piece of jewelry on stage.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I should have. Yeah, I should have. I should have shown up off. Yeah, that's right. I got 30 bucks to spare.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What's the most you've ever spent on Craigslist?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, what a question. At one time I paid my cousins $400 for their $2,000 couch. Oh, but that's. That wasn't Craigslist.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right. That's a different situation.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, probably. Probably 100 bucks or something.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, I got a limit.

[Bridger Weinicker]

100 bucks.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I bought a new couch this year. I spent $2,000 on it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You did not use Craigslist?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Who did you use?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Love, Joy, Joy, love joybird, joybird, love joy. Something like that. It was.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Wow. What pushed you to use it to buying a new couch.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

My boyfriend was allergic to my old couch. It was truly making him. It was. He was waking up like swollen eyes. Couldn't talk. Voices gone so bad. Allergies.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Is this the same boyfriend as bedbugs?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Separate situations.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I date delicate men.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes, you do. Just the daintiest flowers.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Pathetic worms.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Could just be blown away by the lightest breeze. That's fine. They're like testing things out for you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, I dated one toxic muscular criminal in between them and he's the one who cut the light fixture down.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, very good. So he had a purpose.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I bring him up, him in. He does all the mechanical shit. Then I get rid of him. Then I go back to the fragile little flowers. Yeah, no, no, but I am. Look, here's the thing. I don't like this bracelet.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You don't like it? No, I think it's great. Listener. It's like green and blue. What would you say it's made out of?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, this is yellow

[Bridger Weinicker]

again. There's always like a second of me thinking, oh, no, it's green, blue and gold.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Green, blue and gold. So there's a little yellow on there. It's costume jewelry, for sure. I have no idea. And it's. And it's. I think I would assume that it's from, like the 60s.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, it's very chic, I would say.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And it's got, like, little enamel painting. Like little. I think it's a little like painted glass enamel on it. It's just like a. It's just like a. It's very mod.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Do you think I could get away with wearing that?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You think so?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, I think so. Call it vintage.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, as long as it's vintage. And then what about this other one? Do you like that? It looks more like a little. It's almost like a little crown.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This other one I've always imagined wearing, like, high up on.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, interesting. That's kind of a. I don't know what that is. Superhero. Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman sort of thing going on.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. A little. A little. A little brace.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right. But you're not into it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's just so. I mean, look at me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What? You've got a gorgeous ring on right now.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's true. That is true. I do have a gorgeous ring.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This thing, I mean, the one we're currently talking about, I would say, is kind of for no one.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Thank you. Thank you for. I honestly appreciate the validation.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This is like. I mean, unless you're 12 years old.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Or a figure skater.

[Bridger Weinicker]

86. Figure skater. Outside of that, what are you trying to prove to anyone?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Big spray of rhinestones.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, it's kind of just.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It sort of looks like something. If somebody still wants to love Claire's, the jewelry store in the mall, but they're an adult and they feel like they can't go into Claire's. This is. This calls.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This is their Claire's. What do you. But you don't just wear this with regular clothes. You've got to be wearing a. I

[Chloe Radcliffe]

think that there was A time. Okay. I worked in a corporate office before I did stage.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I worked in a corporate office from 2012 to 2015.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And I think maybe even. Maybe even earlier, maybe more like 2011 something. I think that that age was when, like, J. Crew was selling big rhinestone pieces.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, this makes sense.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

There were, like, big necklaces with huge glass jewels.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Do you remember this?

[Bridger Weinicker]

I can imagine walking into a J. Crew and seeing even the models and the photographs wearing this sort of stu.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Actually think that this. I don't. I think that this is from longer ago than that. I don't. Maybe this is a J. Crew, you know, circa 2013.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Is this your. From your grandma, too?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, that I got from a garage sale.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

My gift is bracelets.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You say it on theme.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

With two separate sources. That's amazing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Two separate sources. My gift is things that are in my house that I can't bear to just put out on the sidewalk.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But, yeah, this. I don't give them in my house anymore. Almost certainly J. Crew, then. This feels like a J. Crew. Like, it's by the cash register in, like, a little box.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And you're thinking, well, this would go well with my new.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

With my new blazer. Yeah. My new cardigan. Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And my flats.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This really screams I wish I was a wasp, you know?

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's the new collection at J.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Crew.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's kind of just J. Crew.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes. J. Crew says, if only my name was on the deed of a sailboat. Yes, yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But unfortunately, I live in Arizona.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes, exactly. Exactly, exactly.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. Well, these are gorgeous. This will obviously become part of the set.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Good. Thank you.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And then I'm gonna. I'm gonna see what happens to my personality wearing this around friends.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And see if anybody calls me out for it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm curious for people's reactions. I really genuinely would like to hear. The thing is that I think it's a very cool bracelet. It's just so nice.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Not you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Me.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But I think it's very stylish.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's from, I mean, a New York, Upper west side June.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Stylish old lady in the.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It might be even older than the 60s. Wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, I've got to be careful with it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, I think we should play a game.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

All right, let's play a game.

[Bridger Weinicker]

We're gonna play a game called gift or curse. I need a number between one and 10 from you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Six.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces, so right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Wow. Okay. Promote. I'm promoting myself.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's because that sort of aligns with very non traditional.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. I am ChloeBadcliffe on all socials. And for our New York friends, I'm on tour. I do stand up. I'm going to Seattle and Portland. After la, I'll be in Atlanta. I'm all over. For our New York friends, I am doing. I have a solo show called Cheat, which is about how I have cheated in all of my past relationships. And I am doing that in August for two nights at Joe's Pub, August 19th and 20th. So come on out to see Cheat in New York.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And do you have any recommendations?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, let's see, let's see. I'm sure I have recommendations. Look, this is a bit of a Nepo hire, but I am dating a very funny comedian named Stuart Laws. He's British, so if you're into that accent, look him up.

[Bridger Weinicker]

He's very fragile. So if you don't like a fragile.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Allergic to a couch. I mean, you should. He should be.

[Bridger Weinicker]

This man can't sit.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, no. Yeah. He can't relax. But he's very, very funny. You should look him up. That's my big.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's a great recommendation. I don't think. I don't consider that Nepo. Okay, that's nice.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's. Yeah, that's. That's. I'm earning points.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes, exactly.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

So that later I can be a

[Bridger Weinicker]

little bit mean to him. Exactly. You need some sort of leverage.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Hey, I promoted you on. I said no gifts.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Doesn't that mean anything to you?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Please, please goddamn cook me fucking dinner. I am the idiot husband and he is the long suffering wife. Very, very, very much.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You have to have one.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, this is how we play A gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You will tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Because there are correct answers and you can lose the game.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Great.

[Bridger Weinicker]

All right. This first one is from a list. They're very high. This first one is from a listener named Darren. Gift or a curse. When someone says don't yuck my yum curse.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I truly. I both hate. I hate the sound of the word yuck. And I hate the sound of the word yum. Bad sounds. Two terrible sounds. Yuck. Yum.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Awful.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

So bad. Curse.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Correct.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's also Said by the worst people. It's said by people who think that their entire personality can just be voting for Kamala. Like, I fucking hate. Yeah. Curse.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. Just the phrasing is as bad as it probably could be.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

It's in some ways, like, I get the philosophy of just like. But then there's a part of me where I'm very pro snob and very pro telling people things are bad.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So there's part of it where I'm like, there are certain things, like if I'm eating something and somebody tells me that looks gross. Okay, don't do that.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But sometimes it's like, if someone has bad taste.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm sorry, what are you, Bridger? If not a tastemaker.

[Bridger Weinicker]

If not a tastemaker. That's what everyone's saying. That will be on my grave. Tastemaker.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I think we've gone too far in the direction of this. I don't even like saying it. A lot of. Don't yuck my yum.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, we're way too supportive.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, we've gotta yuck some things.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. We have to go back to being mean.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's sort of that. That's why I think. I think how soft and supportive and, like, understanding and empathetic we have. We have the. The emphasis on, you know, understanding everyone's yum. Everyone has a different yum. Is sort of part of why the people who we disagree with have gone so far in the other direction. Just being like, we have not cleaned up our own house and yucked enough yums over here.

[Bridger Weinicker]

We've got to occasionally. Not everything can be yum.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No, not everything can be yum.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay, you've gotten one correct so far. The second one is from a listener named Molly. Gift or a curse. When an item of clothing is described as butter. Buttery.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Now, hold on. When a material in an item of clothing that makes up an item of clothing is described as buttery gift. Okay, it's buttery leather. Fine. I like that. But just being like, that shirt is buttery. I'm going to say. I'm going to say a controversial. I think it's a curse. My argument for this is that I hate online speak in real life. And I think that that being like, ugh, those pants are buttery, is, like, starting to get a little online speak in real life. So I'm gonna say curse.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Correct. I don't agree with this in any. I don't. I think the first time I heard this was in that documentary about the stretch pants or whatever. The what? That's all the information I'm giving you. I'm sorry.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This is where the Venn diagram of our life is.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That pyramid scheme. Did you not see this about the pyramid scheme where they were selling the faulty stretch pants?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

No. What's a faulty. Also, what can possibly be faulty? They were not stretchy enough.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They were. I think they smelled, and it was a pyramid scheme sometimes.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Is it. Do you mean the, like, the Old Navy jeans smell?

[Bridger Weinicker]

No. What's that?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Do you know what I'm talking about? There's Sometimes there's this specific smell that it's like cheap denim. And it smells like. It smells like rubber.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's not denim.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay, interesting.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think you're smelling the polyester. I think you're smelling dead dinosaur bones made into jeans. You know, quote, unquote, jeans. Anyway, I wonder if that's what the leggings smelled like.

[Bridger Weinicker]

No, I think they smelled like dead bodies, to be honest. Ellis, do you know everyone has seen this documentary other than Chloe. Lula Rich. Lula Rich is what it's called. And it was like. It was a pyramid scheme, okay? And people were selling these horrible pants

[Chloe Radcliffe]

and they were like dead bodies.

[Bridger Weinicker]

They smelled something. Like something. Sewers, Crazy something. But they were described as butter. The feeling was buttery. I don't think you should apply food adjectives.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Like rancid butter, maybe.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, yeah, maybe that's what was going on with the smell. They felt buttery and smelled buttery.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Smelled buttery.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But no, I just don't think that buttery. I actually don't even think food should be described. It's in the same category as yum or yuck to me. I just. The word buttery.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

There are a lot of food adjectives that drive me crazy when people are like, melt in your mouth or. Or falls off the bone.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Falls off the bone. I don't like. Yeah, you're right. You're totally right. I don't like it.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. We need a new vocabulary for food.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think all of us slithers off the bone better.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Slithers off the bone that I'll accept. Crawls out of the bowl. You've gotten two correct so far. Very good. Finally. This is from a listener named Matt. Gift or a curse? Googling someone before a date?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think curse.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What? Why?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think it's just, frankly, too much work. Frankly, I'm gonna know within 90 seconds based on how their face moves, whether I like them or not, and you know what I mean. And then it should be based on the date and I don't even mean like. Well, the person could present a lie about the sex. It's like, if they're presenting a lie, I think I'm gonna know.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I might not know what they're lying. I don't know. I might not know what the truth is.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Sure. But you'll feel me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Something's gonna be fucking off. Yeah. And then I'm gonna be like, no.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Correct. You win the game. No, I think this is a curse. I understand why someone would want to try, but first of all, leave some mystery. Let the relationship play out and get dragged out as long as possible. It's hard to find somebody. So even if it's for a few weeks and then you find out that

[Chloe Radcliffe]

they're horrible of your fucking life.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Otherwise, it's just going through more profiles. Wouldn't you rather be lied to for a few months?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, I would. I just. It drives me nuts. To me, this is like people trying to use the Internet to be in control. And I just, frankly, have let life throw the dice as it may.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right. No, I mean, I think it's kind of unavoidable. I mean, especially you end up seeing them on Instagram or something. But if you can avoid. Yeah. Try to avoid beforehand.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And then you can also start kind of building your little mystery with them. Like, okay, they said this, but now I'm seeing this. Things are not adding up. I'm in danger.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And also the idea of coming into a date knowing things. So I bet that this. Right. Wait, are you. Are you dating at this point?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, I'm in a relationship.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Okay. Were you. Were you dating around while you had a podcast?

[Bridger Weinicker]

No.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Okay. So I. Now I'm in a monogamous relationship, but when times when I have been dating and people have come in and been like, oh, I listened to a podcast that you were on, it's like, I don't want. I don't. Don't.

[Bridger Weinicker]

What do you do with that information?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I guess I would rather they tell me than not tell me. And then I like. And then. And then later they're like, oh, yeah, that thing that you were telling me, I already knew. Cause I had heard, but it's still like. It's like, I don't want you to fucking. No, I want you to interact with me, to engage with me as I am the person sitting across the table from you.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right, right. I don't think you should bring that much information about the other person to. Because then it throws the chemistry off.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You want a mutual level of information on both sides.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right. If you're gonna listen to me on a podcast, send me one of you on a podcast.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Thank you.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And if you're not on a podcast, you're obviously not cool enough.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And if you're gonna Google me, then send me your own Google.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Exactly.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah, I think we're in total agreement there.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm all about equality.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Curse.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Let's answer a listener question people are writing into. I said no giftsmail.com. just kind of begging for answers.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Desperate.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Everyone's desperate these days. Will you help me answer something?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay. This says, I work at a colonial. And first of all, it says no deer or no high nothing. It's just right into the question.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

This person is a New Yorker.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. They're barging in. They don't have time. They've gotta get on the subway.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I will say, last time I was in la, I went to spoke Bicycle Cafe.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, sure.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Which I love.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. Lovely little place.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And the person behind the counter, it was like a long, long line. And I got up there. We were there. I was there with friends for breakfast. And I got up there and I said. They said, hi, how are you? And I said, I'm good. I'll take a urge or, hi, how are you? And I think. I didn't say, I'm good. I think I said, I'll take a whatever. And started ordering because I was in the interest of efficiency.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Sure.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And they said, how are you? And I was like, oh, my fucking God. And I was like, I'm good. How are you? And they went, good, thank you. Now, what can I get you? And I was like, wow.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I would be mad at that point.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I thought it was astounding. And my friends who I was with, we all thought it was astonishing. But, hey, hey, man.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I mean, I get. Let's be honest, you were being very rude.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I was. I was being an asshole.

[Bridger Weinicker]

But if someone's rude to me. Yes. I'm just. Especially if I'm working cash register. I'm like, yeah, I don't care anyway.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Let's get you out of here. The sooner you're out of here, the better.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You don't. You won't tell me how you are.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

You don't want to be intimate with me.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so this person.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Okay, this person butts in. They say, I work at a colonial. House music. And I'm tasked with planning our 250th celebration of independence Day. I'm not feeling particularly patriotic. For obvious reasons and cannot find inspiration for event planning. Bridger and dearest Rude Guest. Oh, so they're kind of hitting up. Hitting. Hitting us up at the end of the email. Whatever. What would you plan for the day? That's from Jennifer.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

For the day at a colonial house. What?

[Bridger Weinicker]

4th of July, 250th.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

But what is that? What is the Colonial House?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Colonial House Museum. Okay. So I think usually they've probably got streamers, they've got sparklers, they have some sort of cake made out of raspberries.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

To me, it's like the day. Look, this is not a funny answer. This is an earnest answer. But could the day be celebrating ways that people, like, patriotically exercise their right to free speech?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, that's nice.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

In, like, protests or whatever or, like, like civil engagement? Honestly, maybe just highlighting civil engagement. And it's like, how does voting at the local level.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right. Impact educational. Just bore people to death?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Or what about highlighting. I wonder if there's a parallel between the Revolutionary War and what our country is right now. And this is clearly a topic that

[Bridger Weinicker]

I don't know much about. I don't know.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

And we threw off the bridle of the English oppression. I wonder if there's a way that you can sort of get the message of. Fuck. The direction that the country is going in right now out through the lens of the Revolutionary War.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, that would be nice.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Do you know what I'm saying?

[Bridger Weinicker]

That'd be kind of exciting.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. I have a hard time with this. The Fourth of July, just historically is the. Where I bottom out each year. Just deeply depressed.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Really.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. And it's, I think, partly to do with the holiday, but partly it's just something's happening. I'm always at a low on the 4th.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

There is a summer angst. Yeah, I know exactly what summer angst you're talking about.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And I think the dissonance of people celebrating a thing.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I'm so happy.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. Over something where you're like, whatever you're doing. And I don't like fireworks or hot dogs.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, I love fireworks. Yeah, that does that. Really. That buoys it up for me. Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

See, it's just me. It's a huge clash. And then I end up just questioning everything on the Fourth of July.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Interesting.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So I don't have a lot to say about the. We've got the big number 250. You can do a lot of fun with that. Guess the jelly beans. But I guess the number would be 250. So that's not a Good guessing game.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Sure, sure. You could say you could guess. Well, no, no, no. It's. You have a big bucket of jellybeans and you say, try and get as close to 250 jellybeans as you can guess.

[Bridger Weinicker]

That's a great game.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You know what I'm saying?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. It's a lot of just avoidance. I'm kind of saying avoid thinking about how terrible it is.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You could have a little track around the house and have one of the ponies on a stick and give people a tricorner hat and let them run around and yell, one if by land, two if by sea. Right.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Or she could do that.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Oh, yes. She holds up the lantern and then you, like Paul Revere must run around the house and like, telling people the British are coming. The British are coming.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I think that's a nice thing to happen at a museum.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

That's fun.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Play some loud non pa. Just loud pop music. It doesn't have to be our standards.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Okay.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Just get in there with some club beats.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. What about Party in the usa?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Party in the. Well, see, now that we're headed in a bad direction because that makes it seem like it's a. We're in a fun time.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Like it's funny. Okay. We could play Born in the usa which is actually.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Right. More subtle.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes. A subversive critique of the country.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Go entirely Springsteen.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yes, yes. Who Springsteen has really been talking about.

[Bridger Weinicker]

He goes for it.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

He's talking about how Trump is bad.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. So there we go. Bruce. Maybe invite Bruce for some sort of guest speaker.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

What about invite local union leaders?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Oh, that's nice.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

To speak in costume as Paul Revere, as Bruce Springsteen. What if you have the local pipefitters union dress up as Bruce Springsteen in the E Street Band and then they guess how many jelly. How big of a handful you need of jelly beans to get to 250.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Happy birthday, America.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think we've done.

[Bridger Weinicker]

I think that's perfect.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

All right.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And then, I mean, obviously start sending your resume out before this and just. Jennifer, you're obviously not meant to be at that museum anymore anyway. You're begging podcasts for answers. She's done.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, we answered the question perfectly.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I think the one thing that. Yes, I do think we answered the question perfectly. I will say I want, in the same way that I actually want liberals and smart people who I trust to serve in the military and to be in the police force. I am like, I want Jennifer to stay at this colonial house unless it's, like, making her life miserable. But it's like I, I, I cannot have these institutions that I think are, are like rampant with misinformation and, and power and misdirection to then only be run by people who I think are very true.

[Bridger Weinicker]

She's a, she's brave for sticking around.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

We, yeah. Jennifer, you are, you are actually doing,

[Bridger Weinicker]

you're doing the work.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

You're doing the work.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yes. You're doing the, Paul Revere's work.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So good for her. Never leave the job, even if it's making you miserable, Jennifer.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah. Let, let all those Republicans go and run like, I don't know, animal shelters or something.

[Bridger Weinicker]

The Kennedy center, unfortunately. Oh my fucking God. Well, I've got my beautiful bracelets.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I've got your bracelets.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And kind of a renewed hope in Craigslist, to be honest. I'm gonna go home and start, I'm gonna dive in.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

It's my procrastination that's better than what

[Bridger Weinicker]

I'm using my phone for.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

What are you using your phone for?

[Bridger Weinicker]

Garbage. Social media. Yeah.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weinicker]

So if I could get into Craigslist, I could.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Craigslist is my. This is acceptable. This is an acceptable scroll.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Yeah. Fantastic. So much more interesting.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Figure out what you want, make a list of what you want and search for that. You can save searches in Craigslist. You can log in. They have an internal chat feature. You can chat with other people on Craigslist on their app. Anyway.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Well, I've had a lovely time with you.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

I've had a thrilling time.

[Bridger Weinicker]

Thank you. Thank you for being here, listener. The podcast is over. I expect you to leave. Goodbye. I love you. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann.

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Amy.

[Bridger Weinicker]

And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at isaidnogifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

[Chloe Radcliffe]

Well, I invited you here. Thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you guess to come to me empty handed. I said no. Guess your presence is present enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

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