Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements Disobey Bridger

Summary

Podcast Summary: I Said No Gifts! — “Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements Disobey Bridger”

Host: Bridger Winegar
Guests: Hayes Davenport & Sean Clements
Released: November 13, 2025
Network: Exactly Right & iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This lively episode of I Said No Gifts! features beloved comedy podcasters Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements (best known for “Hollywood Handbook”) joining Bridger Winegar for an uproarious, meandering conversation. As always, guests violate Bridger’s one wish ("no gifts!") and offer up a delightfully odd present. The trio riff on life in Los Angeles, rodent woes, Halloween hijinks, podcasting hustle, parenting, pet ownership, and indulging in tangents about 2000s pop culture, celebrity oddities, and invented Netflix shows.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Rat Problems in LA

• Los Angeles vs. New York: Bridger opens by discussing how LA has surpassed New York for rat infestations.
  • Hayes: Relates backyard rat invasions and lauds a late neighborhood cat named Tony for his hunting prowess. (06:29)
  • Sean: Shares an encounter with “tree rats” and recounts a rat running across his foot outside a Ralph’s. (07:47)
  • Bridger: Humorous exasperation at being a rat magnet and tales of LA restaurants with rodent issues.
• Discussion Detour: Cat colonies as de facto pest control, “rat playground” restaurants, and an infamous Palisades neighbor who fed thousands of rats. (09:23)

2. Home Repairs & LA Housing

• Old House Problems: Hayes describes the dread of discovering 100-year-old electrical wiring (“knob and tub”) in his home, leading to massive, expensive rewiring. (14:16)
  • “Your entire attic is just open wire sitting on insulation.” — Hayes, [14:24]
• Infrastructure Rant: The crew gleefully pontificates on why city trenches stay open for months: the “open ticket” system means every department gets a shot at using the hole before it's repaired, prolonging rat exposure. (12:56)

3. Podcasting & Patronage

• Patreon Realities: All reflect on the grind of running a long-running podcast with a Patreon, the stress of providing exclusive content, and “male loneliness” in comedy/Patreon audiences.
• Hat Pack Community: Sean and Hayes talk about selling custom hats as a community-builder for their listeners—“We’re exploiting lonely men.” (18:10)

4. AI in Pop Culture & Surreal Rumors

• Celebrity AI Girlfriend Rumor: Bridger teases a wild rumor about a celebrity with an AI girlfriend, leading into a riff on the movie “Simone” (2002) and the concept of entirely virtual companions and careers.
  • “Apparently there’s a celebrity who has an AI girlfriend, and is pushing her on coworkers.” — Bridger, [18:35]
• Movie Tangents: Reminiscing about “Simone,” the premise of an AI actress, and quirky plot twists they’d write, e.g., Al Pacino being a simulation himself. (20:07)

5. Halloween Costumes, Traditions & Parenting

• Family Costume Drama:
  • Sean: Daughter’s villain obsession, cycling through “Shan Yu” (“Mulan”), “Ariel on land” (must stay mute), before settling for “Alice in Wonderland.” (33:32)
    • “So imagine this, a three-year-old girl shows up… full-on Fu Manchu mustache…” (34:14)
  • Hayes: Son “hacks” Halloween for a free basketball jersey as “Tyrese Halliburton”; daughter is “Cher from ‘Clueless’” purely for the appeal of accessories. (36:11 and 37:41)
• Trick-or-Treat Logistics: LA’s hyper-concentrated trick-or-treat hotspots are described as “rat colonies” of children, where individual blocks become candy madhouses. (38:02)

6. Pets, Animal Tales & More LA Wildlife

• Cats & Beetles Galore: Hayes details having two dogs, five cats (some housed in a “cat habitat”), orange cats’ alleged insanity, and a collection of blue “death-feigning beetles.” (57:55)
  • “The orange cats are almost always male… we actually have a female orange cat.” (62:32)
• Tree Frogs & Kid Obsessions: Pending acquisition of a white tree frog, and attempts to make pets easier than fish for his son. (58:39)
• Pet Costume Bits: Husky dog dons a lion’s mane for Halloween; orange cats patrol the roof as new “rat-killers.” (57:59, 64:32)

7. Gift Time: Puzzle Presentation

• Gift Reveal: Hayes and Sean bring a “Dogs of Halloween” jigsaw puzzle in a recycled gift bag picked out by Hayes’s son’s friend (Bennett). (28:05)
  • Playful speculation about the image being from “the other side of the Rainbow Bridge.”
• Puzzle Philosophy: Many jokes about how jigsaw puzzles, especially political ones (“Republican Presidents playing pool”) can haunt one’s kitchen for weeks.
  • “It took me 15 weeks to complete the puzzle… my boyfriend said, ‘that needs to go.’” — Bridger, [46:39]
• Puzzle-Related Show Ideas: Sean floats a podcast concept where guests work on a puzzle throughout, to foster a low-pressure, cozy vibe. (48:24)

8. Game Segments: “Gift or a Curse”

• Guests choose numbers to randomize their game topics; thoughtful and comedic weighing of “gifts” versus “curses”:

  • Microwaves that say “enjoy your meal” — decided: a gift [70:01]
  • Cars with European front license plates in America — a curse [73:03]
  • Being able to edit text messages after sending — a curse [76:44]

  “Texting is the only way we can really communicate with each other and show our true selves.” — Bridger, [80:38]

9. Reader Mail: Difficult Brother Gifts

• Question: What gifts for two hard-to-shop-for brothers (18, EDM fan; 21, “no hobbies except pot and cat”)?

  • Advice:

    • Hayes: “AI girlfriend.”
    • Sean: “A sheet cake to smash (a la Steve Aoki) for the EDM brother to throw at the stoner brother—then he eats it.” (82:34)

  • Bridger: “The AI girlfriend is free, the cake costs $20.” (83:26)

10. Closing Banter:

• Reflections on party costumes, Maroon 5 Halloween parties at Hollywood Forever, and seeing celebrities in surreal, costume-saturated settings.
• A running thread on “red hair discrimination” against orange cats, as well as a story of a neighbor insisting the neighborhood cat’s “real name” is Buddha, not Mr. Cheeks:
  • “What do you give a fuck? I’m taking care of the cat.” — Hayes, [63:23]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On LA’s Rat Situation:
  "It sounded big. You could really hear them rustling." ― Sean, [06:25]
  "He [the feral cat] used to just go to town on the rats." ― Hayes, [06:52]

• On The Podcast Grind:
  "[Patreon] always comes, whimpering next to the table... They always want a little scrap off." — Sean, [15:49]

• On AI Companions:
  "Apparently there’s a celebrity who has an AI girlfriend, and is pushing her on coworkers." — Bridger, [18:35]

• On Male Loneliness:
  "We're the one podcast that lonely men like… Let’s give them something, sort of a signal, a flare they can send to each other with this hat." — Hayes, [18:08]

• On Gift-Giving Etiquette:
  "You’ve come on to blame me for almost everything in my life." — Bridger, about Sean & Hayes’s gleeful irreverence, [24:19]

• On Maroon 5 Halloween Parties:
  "You're just vibrating in this space where, whatever, Jake Gyllenhaal is in your peripheral vision and then you see your friend is wearing a costume of you… adds to the dreamlike nature of it." — Sean, [53:11]

• On the Puzzle Gift:
  "We go in and out of being a big jigsaw puzzle house… That can be a nice, sort of soothing activity. You forget, like, puzzles are nice." — Hayes, [45:03]

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Highlighted Timestamps

• Rats in LA / Restaurant Rats: 05:32 – 12:03
• Wiring Nightmares & Infrastructure: 14:16 – 15:21
• Patreon & Hat Discussion: 15:49 – 18:25
• AI Girlfriend & “Simone” Tangent: 18:35 – 22:50
• Halloween Costumes with Kids: 33:32 – 37:59
• Trick-or-Treat Hotspots in LA: 38:02 – 39:43
• Pet Ownership & Blue Beetles: 57:55 – 60:59
• Gift Opening—Puzzle: 28:05 – 30:19, 44:51 – 48:22
• "Gift or a Curse" Game: 69:48 – 80:23
• Advice Email (Hard-to-gift Brothers): 80:58 – 84:46

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Tone & Style

The episode is relentless in its comic banter, sarcasm, and digressive storytelling. Bridger’s dry wit sets the pace, while Sean and Hayes riff, escalate, and undercut both each other and the host, in time-honored "Hollywood Handbook" style. The trio ping-pong from droll LA observations to absurd pop culture riffs (celebrity AI girlfriends, the existential nature of jigsaw puzzles, Halloween party power dynamics), maintaining a conversational, slightly subversive, and self-mocking manner throughout.

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Fans of meta-comedy, podcast in-jokes, LA minutiae, and offbeat gift-giving traditions will find this episode loaded with memorable tangents and the familiar, inclusive weirdness that has made both “I Said No Gifts!” and “Hollywood Handbook” favorites among comedy diehards.

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For more puzzling, pet-filled, and Halloween-tinged episodes, follow I Said No Gifts! on Instagram @isaidnogifts.

Transcript

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[No Gifts Enforcer]

Did you hear? I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no guests. Your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hi. I just want to tell you and remind you that we do have [e-mail] including a new T shirt. That's my favorite T shirt yet. The art on it is absolutely stunning. Jaw dropping. Plus, we have stickers. We have a mug. Get on exactlyrightstore.com order by December 14th if you want it by Christmas. 1225. December 25th. Get in there, get yourself a T shirt. Get somebody else a T shirt. Get a mug, get a sticker. Do whatever you want. Go shopping online. Welcome to I said no Gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're here in the studio. What's going on? Los Angeles is infested with rats more than any city in the United States, apparently. We tried to have Kathy the Rat Czar on last year. She refused or didn't get the memo. I don't know what happened? But maybe, maybe we can get her out here. It's just my ultimate nightmare. What else is going on? My mom was in town over the weekend. I went to an estate sale and it was just full of boring garbage. So I'm glad that person's dead. And I think that's everything. I saw that Kristen Stewart has kind of a blunt bang now. I saw that online most recently, and I don't know if it's working or not working for her. Who cares? Is there. Oh, Patreon. Patreon continues to exist. The entertainment industry is on fire. Join us at Patreon. There's all kinds of wonderful. I'm doing too much work over there. Now we've got an episode with my mom. I mean, that's what people wanted. And so I did it. And then I did a sleep tape. I mean, I'm doing. The amount of work is probably wrong. So come over, join us. We'll have a good time. Is there anything else in my notes? No, I don't think so. So, no, I think I've covered everything. My mom was in town and we had a nice time. We went to Huntington Gardens. If you're ever in Los Angeles or if you're ever a parent in Los Angeles, that's a few hours. Okay, so let's get into the show. I love today's guests. It's Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements.

[Sean Clements]

Bridger.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hi. Welcome. I said no gifts.

[Sean Clements]

Thank you so much for.

[Hayes Davenport]

Thanks for having us. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels like it's been a very, very long time coming.

[Sean Clements]

Quite hardship.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

You reached out at some point and it just got washed out to sea. And all the goings on over and over.

[Hayes Davenport]

And so many emails tend to do more and more. We have a producer, you know, and I think we responded. I think it was like, yeah, we'd love to do the show. And then it was like, okay, let's get into scheduling. And then we were like, no, just. Is it just us wanting to do the show enough?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I actually kind of think that is as long as the person was like, oh, I would in theory do the show.

[Hayes Davenport]

Sounds good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure.

[Hayes Davenport]

Obviously, I'm not gonna do the show.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The work itself.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it's the thought that's nice.

[Sean Clements]

Tell me about the rats, Bridger.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The rats are apparently more than New York. We have more than New York.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which I don't know how many rats.

[Sean Clements]

You can see larger land area.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's true. That's where we get into some weird statistics.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's new numbers on the rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

New numbers apparently, it's all over the news. Okay. Louisiana.

[Sean Clements]

Because they started. They started putting.

[Hayes Davenport]

I took my news from the news, as I'm sure we'll talk about.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You look to friends.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. Family, I come here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You come to the. Well, you're making the right choice.

[Hayes Davenport]

Anything that's the utility from the news to you. I go, this is probably what they're the. The blunt bang and all that, you know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have you had any experiences with rats in la?

[Sean Clements]

We had. I mean, we had rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, in your house?

[Sean Clements]

Outside.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

They call them tree rats, which is.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Way worse than a regular rat.

[Sean Clements]

They sounded big. You could really hear them rustling.

[Hayes Davenport]

We got. We got them. I mean, they're definitely. So if you're in my backyard, there's like, our neighbor has fruit trees and the rats are in there, and then there's like, wire, like, you know, like electrical wire or whatever that they walk across. But we had this cat that. He was like a feral cat who lived across the street and I guess.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Had.

[Hayes Davenport]

Decimated enough of the rats population there that he started coming over to our yard and, God, he used to just go to town on the rats. He has since passed. But, man, I loved that cat. And he would. You'd be. You know, we had a fire pit and some. I'd be entertaining. I'd have friends over in one sitting, one conversation. He'd bring you three, four rats as a little presentation of like, I'm earning my keep here, you know?

[Bridger Weiniger]

How big were the rats?

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, they varied in size. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Healthy rats.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, they looked. Oh, they looked like they were thriving, but they weren't. They weren't, like, gigantic.

[Sean Clements]

But.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, we have some. Some sort of cat colony is happening around our area, and I'm not going to stand in the way. Why? I mean, they're taking care of my least favorite creature.

[Hayes Davenport]

Do you see them?

[Bridger Weiniger]

The rats or the cats?

[Sean Clements]

The rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I haven't seen, knock on wood, no rats near my home. But I've experienced plenty of rats in la, at restaurants.

[Sean Clements]

One ran across my foot at a restaurant. It ran across your foot?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, no, those are separate.

[Hayes Davenport]

Exposed to me in New York.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Foot in shoe, outside of Ralph's.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then at a restaurant. We'll have to beep it out, but. And of course, there were rats at. Yeah, every location of this restaurant has rats.

[Sean Clements]

You know what it is they have. And we will bleep it out, but they have kind of a natural vibe in there. You know, I think it's sort of designed to be, like, infused with the outdoors and I think the rats out.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think the rats are people that work there. Seem like they may have a relationship with the rats. And it's not, you know, they're a rat, good or bad, but they seem like they would be open to creating with the rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A rats playground.

[Sean Clements]

And you saw one there?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Okay. So inside I've been. First of all, I'll say we've beeped the restaurant. So I'll just say it's a horrible.

[Hayes Davenport]

Restaurant, we'll have to bleep it. But yeah, it's really not a good place. And it comes up if you're just looking at like open table, like, can I go somewhere near here? That seems like, okay, like sort of nice. You'll end up there and you'll go, how did this happen to me Again?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's airport food.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's very airport bar food. And there are rats in the trees. I've been to two different locations. Never my idea. And both times there have been rats.

[Sean Clements]

They shouldn't have trees in the restaurant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, Trees all over the place. And food. Pick one or the other.

[Hayes Davenport]

The table. The wood is for the table.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

Shouldn't be alive and just hanging out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't want live wood near my food.

[Hayes Davenport]

No dead wood. Have you ever read. So there's an interesting article about the rat population, specifically in the Palisades from a few years back. And there was a woman who was actually one of our first showrunner David Goodman's neighbors, who's like an older widow who had just been feeding the rats in her backyard. And so there ended up being like thousands of them that would congregate in this yard. And ultimately the neighbors started to realize, like, oh, we are ground zero for like a massive, massive portion of the rats in Los Angeles. And then I think she passed away. And then that yard just had these rats that started spreading through the neighborhood. But it's an interesting article. I'll see if I can find it for you.

[Sean Clements]

It give you nightmares. They probably vaporized her as soon as she went there.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh my God.

[Sean Clements]

Don't you think they were waiting?

[Hayes Davenport]

No, I don't think she was decomposing naturally. I think the rats were helping out.

[Sean Clements]

It was like one of those time lapse little foxes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, exactly. Just this old woman's skeleton lying in the grass. Do we know what, was she feeding the rats on purpose or was she like all animals and then just happened to be rats?

[Hayes Davenport]

I think she ultimately was like, knew it was rats. Like it wasn't just she was putting food out. She Was like, I don't know, like, people feed the pigeons or the. You know, she was just like, yeah, these. These animals are coming to me, these furry animals, and I'm just gonna kind of give them what they're looking for.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a legacy.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And what a prank.

[Sean Clements]

But you've had a lot of experiences for someone that seems to have a particular antipathy for these things. I don't think I've ever had a single one run over my foot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm drawing them to me. Yeah. I was walking to when I used to live down in Mid City, walking to Ralph's. One ran up the curb and over my foot. I then spent an hour in Ralph's. I didn't need groceries in the first place.

[Hayes Davenport]

It seems like Hayes is saying it's time for some accountability on my part. Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I feel like that I'm probably not doing what I should be doing to avoid rats. I mean, I've run into them in New York. I've opened a garbage can to have a rat run out. I mean, I actually don't know what I'm doing.

[Hayes Davenport]

This is where we, like, flashback and we realize that the sign that you thought said Ralph's just said rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I just said it in the rats.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yes. That you were going to rats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There's a chance. There's a chance. Or I have a few crumbs in my pocket. I'm doing something. I am to blame here. But then there's another restaurant in Silver Lake. I love their food, but the parking lot was just jumping rats.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I let them know, and they said the city opened up the street and the rats came out, and there's nothing we can do. So I can't go back.

[Sean Clements]

The city's supposed to leave that covered up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

They're not supposed to open the lid on the street.

[Hayes Davenport]

I learned something interesting the other day about why, you know, when they open up, like, a trench in the city and it stays open forever, you probably know this already why it stays open so long.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayes Davenport]

So if, like, let's say whatever the Department of Water and Power needs to open the street for some reason and they dig out this huge trench and they open it, Every other public works department has a window of, like, 60 days to decide if they want to go in that hole and do something too. So they. So, like, they finish their work in two or three days, but they have to leave it open because there's, like, an open ticket where it's like, do you guys have anything you want to do? Because we don't want to open another hole a month from now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then I think often no one does. No one probably even sees it, but they just leave it open for a long time. All the rats come out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It kind of makes sense.

[Sean Clements]

The list of infrastructure replacements is like really, really long.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And mostly they just wait until it explodes and is like, you know, whatever. The water main is like shooting in the air because some of those pipes are like 100 years old. And so yeah, if one. That makes sense. If one's open, they say, but why.

[Hayes Davenport]

Not make it 100? Was like I was going to like.

[Sean Clements]

For a pipe blown away for a pipe.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's made of metal pipes. Of course, they're 100 years old.

[Sean Clements]

They're underground at this guy's house. 100-year-old feels like, no, you're not invited.

[Hayes Davenport]

To, you're not welcome.

[Sean Clements]

That feels like a fresh pipe to this guy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But why not make a list of people who want to get in the hole before opening the hole and say, you know, line up, let's all do that. Rather than open the hole and then talk to him, everybody go hog wide.

[Hayes Davenport]

He works for the city.

[Jardiance Announcer]

Over here.

[Sean Clements]

You gotta get over there, open up that hole. You don't have time to make a list.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think when they are opening, they'll whole. They are doing it in sort of an emergency situation where it's like everything is exploding down here. The 100 year old pipes are falling down.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The 100-year-old pipes. Have you had any sort of pipe issues in your homes? Have you had to do any major repairs?

[Hayes Davenport]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm worried about this in my home.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, when we got our house, which is over 100 years old, which I guess the oldest thing in the world.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The haze, ancient history.

[Hayes Davenport]

The electrician came in and he was like, so the wiring is the original wiring. It was kind of wiring called knob and tub, which is. I like that the wires are not insulated, basically. And he was like, so your entire attic is just open wire sitting on insulation.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh my God.

[Sean Clements]

So it just.

[Hayes Davenport]

You're just begging for fire. And so they were like, you have to completely redo like every element of the electrical, you know, infrastructure of your home. And then of course, like all the codes have changed. And so it means like you have to like add all these outlets, you need these special whatever kinds of fuses and all that. And it's still never, you know, to this day, if you turn on the microwave in the kitchen, it seems like there's like a lightning storm happening inside the House. So you have to like, microwave things with the lights off. And then you. Because the wiring's all screwed up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That to me, I would just have to. I would just ignore. I would just say I would rather the house burn down than spend all that money.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe we should have just.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let the house burn down.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, maybe we. Yeah. I don't know. What am I doing for anybody?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a great question. What have you two been up to? Outside of thinking about my situation with the rats and.

[Sean Clements]

Gosh, I mean, we've been just podcasting our little noggins off.

[Hayes Davenport]

You break up Patreon. Ptsd. Patreon.

[Sean Clements]

Patreon always comes, like whimpering next to the table, doesn't it? They always want a little scrap off.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Throw them something.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Some little piece of meat.

[Sean Clements]

We've been doing our show a long time, Bridget, and so have you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, not as you. 10 years. Probably longer.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, probably. Probably 10 years, but definitely more.

[Hayes Davenport]

Wow.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But you're just getting into the hat game.

[Sean Clements]

Well, I mean. Yes. Over the scope of the show.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. And gosh, I mean, I thought. Should we just bring that as a.

[Hayes Davenport]

Should we have just brought a hat?

[Sean Clements]

Hat?

[Hayes Davenport]

But it was too.

[Sean Clements]

That's what everyone's expecting, you know, and we can't just give these things away.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, no, no, no. You're making money.

[Sean Clements]

That's our business.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. That's your livelihood.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

We have hats at hatpackhat Biz. Is it still hatpackhat Biz? I'm sure we still have that.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, I think so.

[Sean Clements]

Hatpack, our producer. The same one that biffed the scheduling.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure, sure.

[Sean Clements]

It's like a funny URL or something. But we couldn't just hat pack.

[Hayes Davenport]

Like, if you just Google like, hat pack, it's like spelled P A C and it's some other, you know, I don't know, evil. Some sort of right wing company or.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Something you'd be giving money to.

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't know, but. Or left wing. I mean, everybody's bad, but you're on both sides person. Just like. It's just all clowns.

[Sean Clements]

So extremes. So much extremes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Goddamn fucking clown car. Both lanes.

[Sean Clements]

But the hats. Yeah, they've really generated a sense of community. Owning the hat offers not just a hat, but also membership in the hat pack.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I didn't realize there was a membership tug.

[Sean Clements]

It's an exclusive community. Yes. Of people that own the hat and they see each other in the hat.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then they can. They can connect, they can bond if they Want to.

[Sean Clements]

Most of the people in the hat are not like connectors in that way. You know what I mean?

[Hayes Davenport]

I believe that there's a loneliness epidemic.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There is a male loneliness, and there's.

[Hayes Davenport]

Also a male listener base for the show.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure.

[Hayes Davenport]

And so we just thought, like, oh, we can really. We can really reach this community.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Are really exploiting some lonely men.

[Hayes Davenport]

They are. That's who listens. And, you know, we kind of carved out. We're the one podcast that lonely men like. So, yeah, we decided, like, let's give them something sort of a signal, a flare they can send to each other with this hat.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Speaking of male loneliness, I won't say the. The person's name, but I recently heard a rumor about a celebrity having an AI girlfriend. I don't know if you've heard any of these rumors about celebrities having a girlfriend.

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't know about it. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Apparently there's a celebrity who has an AI girlfriend.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And is kind of pushing the AI girlfriend on the people he works with, which is an interesting. Don't know how that works. And. Or. Or if it's true.

[Sean Clements]

Trying to get them to maybe join their thing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh. Maybe bring a body into the situation.

[Hayes Davenport]

What does that mean? I can't imagine having Naji, Simone and.

[Sean Clements]

I, of course, the girlfriend is named Simone with a one and a three.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We love Simone.

[Sean Clements]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Classic.

[Sean Clements]

Simone and I are kind of interested in your vibe. Seems like you'd be a good fit.

[Hayes Davenport]

What was the premise of Kelly Norwood? What was the premise of Simone?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Wait. It was an AI actress that created.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, so should we guess?

[Hayes Davenport]

Okay, I have a loose. I'm gonna get details wrong.

[Sean Clements]

Al Pacino.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Al Pacino.

[Sean Clements]

Al Pacino's the lead.

[Hayes Davenport]

He's like an aging movie producer or director of some kind. And he. Maybe they lose the actress for a movie or something, but he decides that they can simulate an actress. Like, they can have a computer generated actress named Simone. Simulation one. Who then? Tilly Norwood style. They just kind of say, like, this is an actress now. And they're using not just screen images, but, like, she's doing, like, hologram, like, public appearances and stuff.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So she's not a mannequin.

[Hayes Davenport]

And they've no. And they've generated sort of a backstory. Maybe she's even dating someone. But she becomes a phenomenon and is the lead of the movie. And then they're in this pickle of, like, now we have this person that doesn't exist that people are kind of clamoring for. And it's. He's. Feeling kind of like, you know, Ed Harris in the Truman show, where he's, like, operating, pulling the strings.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's got the little beret. Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Pulling the wool. Imagine this twist. They reveal at the end that Al Pacino is also a Simone.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Whoa.

[Sean Clements]

And he didn't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it's a 1A.

[Hayes Davenport]

There you go.

[Sean Clements]

Al Pacino. So. Oh, your version. I was thinking Al Pacino's character in the movie, you're saying is Al Pacino. The Al Pacino. They reveal at the end that Al Pacino.

[Hayes Davenport]

The idea for the movie.

[Sean Clements]

In this movie is a Simone inspired.

[Bridger Weiniger]

By the life of A1 Pacino.

[Sean Clements]

A1 Pacino.

[Hayes Davenport]

Who played Simone, though?

[Sean Clements]

Oh, I mean, was it a composite? Was it a digital renderer?

[Hayes Davenport]

I think they had an actress.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I think it was because they had to look like a real person for the film.

[Hayes Davenport]

They must have hoped. And then this person will become a household name.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know what I mean? And it'll be like, are we getting Simoned? But I don't think it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do we know if they had to kill Simone in the movie? Did she get out of control, or was it just like she retired? Yeah, exactly. Starts to spark, and then they have to shoot her.

[Hayes Davenport]

I feel like I watched it on cable, but I'm not sure that I was awake for all of it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayes Davenport]

Or saw all of it.

[Sean Clements]

Shooting a hologram. Really dangerous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I keep forgetting. Getting into hologram.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, yeah. Your best friend is holding the hologram while you shoot the hologram, like, holding her still. And then you realize, like, oh, no, she's a hologram.

[Sean Clements]

But she still has kind of a metallic Terminator skull underneath her face. And it's like. It seems like they didn't have to render her that way.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm kind of picturing Al Pacino sadly flipping the switch at the end of the movie, saying goodbye to his daughter. And that's. But then I guess I think that is what happens. But you do want to keep it open for a sequel. Situ. Mon. But I guess that probably didn't.

[Hayes Davenport]

The metadata remains.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, exactly. How did we get to Simone?

[Hayes Davenport]

Stuart? It can't be a guy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, we skipped right to Megan.

[Hayes Davenport]

Gender swap Simone.

[Sean Clements]

He's a.

[Hayes Davenport]

You gotta pitch this. I'm doing kind of a gender swap. Simone.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sim one. Interesting. Interesting. No, I never saw that. And it was the Truman show creator. Right. I feel like that was, like, in that same category of, like, what if another Hollywood.

[Sean Clements]

We were exploring.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Right. And look where we are now. We're dealing with Simones around every corner.

[Sean Clements]

But are these. Are we feeding into this a little bit, Bridger? By criticizing, like Kristen Stewart's Blunt Bang, for example.

[Hayes Davenport]

You didn't criticize it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I said it didn't.

[Sean Clements]

Okay. Yeah, the Toad was a fuck about it. The Toad was really flattering.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love her Blunt Bang. I've changed my mind. It works for her, and she should have gotten it sooner. Who knows where her career would be?

[Hayes Davenport]

Even the praise has criticism. It's too late for you now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm saying bad things about her career. Kristen, reach out. We can work through this. Well, look, I've gotten myself into a lot of hot water with Simone and Kristen Stewart. We should move on. Let's move on to something I'd rather not talk about, but I feel like we should.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was excited to have you two here today. I thought they've been in the game a long time.

[Sean Clements]

Long time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They know what they're doing. I can't imagine them making too many mistakes on the podcast. Yeah, the podcast is called I said no Gifts.

[Sean Clements]

No, but it's not a mistake. Bridger, you should know us. You've been on our show. Like, we're sort of the rude dudes of podcasting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're nasty.

[Hayes Davenport]

We're kind of the bad boys. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I was asking for it. I feel like you've come on to blame me for almost everything in my life.

[Sean Clements]

Well, let me tell you something, Bridger. We came in here, they asked us to put our phone on do not disturb, something that never happened to me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They asked you to put it on do not disturb.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, they didn't. They said, please put it on dnd.

[Sean Clements]

Yes, but there was a QR code. There was a QR code that you could scan. There's a framed image of a QR code in the green room that you could scan to go on wifi. Yes. I didn't put it on dnd.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You could get a call at any moment.

[Sean Clements]

I didn't scan the QR code.

[Hayes Davenport]

Whatever. Oh, I didn't scan shit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm always on dnd. You're not.

[Sean Clements]

Mm, mm.

[Hayes Davenport]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I would say probably half an hour of each day. I'm not on dnd.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Feels incredible.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, I gotta get deed.

[Sean Clements]

And then what happens when you turn it off? Is it just a fire hose?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, people are mad. People are annoyed.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, but everyone's in the hospital. Everyone drives themselves to the hospital. They ought to drive each other.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Screaming and bleeding. Get Bridger on the phone. We can never reach him.

[Hayes Davenport]

We had to Create an AI star for this movie. We wanted it to be you, but it was you. Couldn't reach you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So my agents are so mad. We wanted you as Stuart.

[Hayes Davenport]

You were gonna be Stuart. Stuart.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Big Stuart, like small male. Well, you brought the gift. Should we open it here on the podcast?

[Hayes Davenport]

Unfortunately, we got it. Yeah.

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[Bridger Weiniger]

I love this bag. Who picked out the bag?

[Hayes Davenport]

So someone who gave my son a birthday gift picked out that bag.

[Sean Clements]

This is one of the best things about kids that I've discovered is you've got bag. I'm sure around the house kind of.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like having popped up.

[Hayes Davenport]

So I picked out the bag cause on the way to the car, I ripped off a tag that I almost didn't see that said Happy birthday from Bennett. So the bag is Bennett.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank you, Bennett.

[Sean Clements]

It's nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's kind of a beautiful, psychedelic, swinging 60s bag.

[Hayes Davenport]

Funky.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, very funky. We've got some tissue paper. Good for you for bringing tissue paper.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know, I'm not messing around.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, we're getting in. Oh, this is a beautiful. This is such a gorgeous puzzle.

[Hayes Davenport]

The dogs of Halloween.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The dogs of Halloween. There's, like, a little pumpkin trailer, and the dogs are having the time of their lives. They're all in costume. There is a cat.

[Hayes Davenport]

Ghost dog. Oh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which feels like a mistake on the painter's.

[Hayes Davenport]

But the cat's not in costume.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. So it's not celebrated and it's seasonal because black cat.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's Halloween. Right. But the cat's not allowed to participate in the festivities.

[Sean Clements]

And this is kind of a special image because this is actually a rendering of what exists on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, I hope so.

[Sean Clements]

And so a dog actually, like, did visit the other side of the bridge.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, this is like that little boy who died.

[Hayes Davenport]

This is like a heaven is for real.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Heaven is for real.

[Sean Clements]

But then did retain memories of what the other side of the rainbow Bridge looks like. And it is. They are celebrating Halloween all year round. And so no matter when this episode comes out, I don't know how it seems like this episode mid November, people are still. It seems like it's pretty.

[Hayes Davenport]

But we wanted to guarantee, like, if you do, if you really push us and it's just like this feeling you have, like, this is a bad episode. Let's just, like, not release until we're all out. Everyone will know that that's what happened.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, we'll just push it to October, like, 27th.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, interesting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, a couple years from now, we've got a special Halloween episode.

[Hayes Davenport]

Don't threaten me with a good time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You two are dead. We're, like, kind of celebrating you. Yeah, we celebrate.

[Sean Clements]

Your podcast could be like that Netflix show.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which Netflix show?

[Sean Clements]

There's a new Netflix show where they go to people that are alive but not that much, and they say, hey, would you like to make some content that you will never get to experience the positive impacts of yourself, except the money right now. They did it with Jane Goodall.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was gonna say kind of a Grace and Frankie situation, but no Grace.

[Sean Clements]

Well, yes, they did.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Older folks.

[Sean Clements]

It would be as if they waited, as if they sat.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, Jane. Hers was a post.

[Sean Clements]

Hers was posthumous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayes Davenport]

So as soon as you pass.

[Sean Clements]

Yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Then they release it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That is the show. They go to people and say, we'll wait till you die.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. They wire. They put basically a detonator on your part, so as soon as it stops beating, the episode is launched, they send.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You into a bank.

[Hayes Davenport]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder how they contact you about that.

[Hayes Davenport]

Hey.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hey. Heard you're getting up there.

[Sean Clements]

It's.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's Netflix. You know, they've got a little bit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Bit of something for everybody. Wow.

[Sean Clements]

Imagine they should have sat on Grace and Frankie, huh?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder who else they've got in the bank for that show. I mean, they're probably not going to reveal until they die.

[Hayes Davenport]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

One of you. Any of us right now, could have just done an interview.

[Sean Clements]

We could have done it.

[Hayes Davenport]

True.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And we're just saving it. That's a good idea for a podcast. You could really blow the roof off if suddenly you're just. It's all dead guests, and you're like, I have the last word from this person.

[Sean Clements]

They should say who it is.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know, I call it.

[Sean Clements]

So when someone dies, you can say, ooh, Deadpool. Deadpool.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Deadpool. There we go. Deadpool.

[Hayes Davenport]

Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What is the title of the show? Of this show?

[Sean Clements]

Don't remember.

[Hayes Davenport]

Somebody wants this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Somebody wanted this person to die. That's kind of true.

[Sean Clements]

Somebody did.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everybody has someone that wants them to die.

[Sean Clements]

Someone like Jane Goodall. I mean, like, love her to death. But in an industry where there's, like, one really famous person, so many people are doing this.

[Hayes Davenport]

You're, like, the second best monkey researcher in the world, you know, gives a shit about you. No one has ever learned your name.

[Sean Clements]

And her dying now doesn't mean you get elevated. It means that people still talk about her and death forever.

[Hayes Davenport]

There'll never be another one. One of one. And it's like, well, yeah, it certainly will be if we keep acting like this.

[Sean Clements]

You're obviously going to the funeral. You were like, really close, professional colleagues. And it's just, like, rubbed in your face even more.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right? It makes it worse for you.

[Sean Clements]

Terrible.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe wear something flashy to the funeral. Try to catch a few eyes. Oh, what a shame. Yeah, we'll never know who the next.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jane Goodall show up with a chimp. Sorry, no days off. You know, I guess they miss Jane. And now they're like, it's like, I'm Jane now to them or something. Which maybe I could. Whatever be that for you guys.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Back off. Are either of you dressing up for Halloween?

[Sean Clements]

I am part of a family costume.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Man, have we gone back and forth on this thing?

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, boy.

[Sean Clements]

For a while, my daughter wanted to be. She's obsessed with evil and general villainy. And she's really scared of Shawn Yu, who is the main antagonist from the movie Mulan.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Sean Clements]

But for a while, she was really insistent on being Shawn Yu.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's very cute.

[Sean Clements]

So imagine this. A three year old girl shows up to your door. She has a full on Fu Manchu mustache.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What is happening in this house?

[Sean Clements]

And like armor pads and a big sword. Maybe a crow. Like a pet crow on her shoulder.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that's very cute.

[Sean Clements]

We got her off that. Okay, next one was a problem for a different reason. She wanted to be Ariel Gray on land.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's a very child idea.

[Sean Clements]

She does not want a tail.

[Hayes Davenport]

Come on. Yeah. So then you're just a woman lugging this tail around.

[Sean Clements]

She has a pink dress in the movie that my daughter was like, give me that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

But she's not allowed to talk.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting either.

[Sean Clements]

So she's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's taking the wrong messages from this movie.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. So in this case, three art shows up to your door. She's just wearing a pink dress and the shell hair clip. That's the only actual clue you get.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You say a little wink to the.

[Sean Clements]

Viewer and who are you supposed to be? And you're just met with dead silence.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And now it's like kind of.

[Sean Clements]

She looks scared.

[Hayes Davenport]

Ghost.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Ghost in a pink ghost.

[Sean Clements]

Ghost in a pink dress.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So now what does she want to be?

[Sean Clements]

She had an Alice in Wonderland themed birthday party. Has a great Alice getup. And my wife managed to manipulate her into doing that again and thinking it was her idea. And so I was the Mad Hatter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, great.

[Sean Clements]

Or if it was the white rabbit, we're just running it back.

[Hayes Davenport]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that's a great costume.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, me too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everyone gets it immediately. There's no explaining. And it's within the ballpark of what she wanted. Sean, are you dressing up?

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't think so.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

Sometimes I'll throw on a cowboy hat or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, it's nice to have a cowboy hat or a witch hat lying around.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. Something I got lying around. A little flannel and a cowboy.

[Sean Clements]

Ha.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know, But I don't really like to dress up, but I'm dealing with my kids, and my son has inherited that trait. He just, like, is very, very against having to put something on.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, anything in general.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. And so his kind of life hack is that he's realized Halloween is a way for him to get a free basketball jersey of a player that he likes. So he just, like, says a player. And he's like, I want to Go as this, you know, player. And this year, he's going to be Tyrese Halliburton.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Great.

[Hayes Davenport]

So he. So he got, you know, he got the. By the way, I save because he, you know, now I'm buying jersey. Yeah. So that's. He's gonna wear that. And then that player obviously has a. Is recovering from a torn Achilles. And it's a big argument with my wife that she just wants him to at least, like, put a band aid on his ankle or something so that there's, like, some indication that it's like a costume and not just a kid in a jersey. And I think where we currently stand is he will put some form of bandage on his ankle for one photo.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a negotiation. How old is he?

[Hayes Davenport]

Six.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. Tough.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then his sister, who's four, she really wanted the whole family to go as the Berenstien Bears, but of course, Christians, her brother refused.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure.

[Hayes Davenport]

And so it was like it all fell apart. And then my wife, similarly, just has convinced her to wear a costume that I think she wanted her to be in, which is she is going to be Cher from the movie Clueless. A character. She has no idea what it is. Never seen. But it's the yellow plaid.

[Pandora Jewelry Announcer]

Sure.

[Sean Clements]

Of course.

[Hayes Davenport]

With the. And she's got the pink pen with the feather and a little, like, old school cell phone, which I think she wanted to, like, have a phone as a toy. Anyway, so. So it's all come together. I think she'll look great. And you can do that with her right now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And do you guys go trick or treating with your kids?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How does that work? I've never had a trick or treater in la. I'm not living in a random enough neighborhood.

[Sean Clements]

You're not in the zone. So every neighborhood has a couple of hotspots.

[Hayes Davenport]

There's like, a street that is like, this is the trick or treat street.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

Individually, it's like the rat colony in the Palisades.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's insane. So, like, four blocks from us, our neighbor lives, like, in the center of the zone. And so we're gonna go to their house.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

We help hand out candy. I mean, you got, you know, 10 people there. They order pizzas. And it's like you're just handing out candy. It's hundreds and hundreds of people coming through. And so you kind of like, there's like, two giant, like, barrels of candy out front. You're doing that. And then at some point in the night, I'll take my kids and we will walk just up and down Those two blocks, and it'll take an hour and a half to, like, get through those lines and stuff, but, like, that's it. We just post up there fast and it's like, even walking in there is hard.

[Sean Clements]

Do they tell you when you're buying one of these houses? Because, like, it's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's responsibility. Yeah. That seems like a huge hassle.

[Sean Clements]

People, I think will bother you if you don't decorate. I assume it would just be like, hey, just so you know, like, we think a little different. That I'm. I'm curious about that. I gotta find out. I want. And this year, I feel like if you showed up, I don't know what the bad guy from K Pop Demon Hunters looks like, but if you showed up to one of these places dressed like that, I think you might actually get killed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Truly be trampled.

[Sean Clements]

Just the number of little kids stabbing you with a. You know, crawling up you, whatever their weapon is, I think you would actually. Actually get eaten.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Does that movie. I. I imagine he's a. Like a record producer or something of the villain of the.

[Sean Clements]

Great Question. I love that. Turns out to be a demon. Hey, can the bad guy not be a producer?

[Bridger Weiniger]

There are other jobs in the industry.

[Hayes Davenport]

He's not really. Oh, you know, I've seen.

[Sean Clements]

What is he?

[Hayes Davenport]

He's sort of the head of all the demons. But then, like, there's a sort of cocky, arrogant demon who has a good. Good enough voice that he can start a boy band that will then, like, be able to rival the cause. The. The girl group, K pop group are the Demon Hunters. They're killing all these demons. And so then they want to kind of absorb all their fans to this, like, demon boy band, and that will, like, somehow eliminate their power. But it's very complicated.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And were the gals demon hunters first or possib?

[Sean Clements]

Great question.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, they have all been sort of Buffy the Vampire Slayer trained to be demon hunters, I think from birth. One of them is like a blade type character where she's half demon and is trying to hide it from the rest of the group.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

You gotta have one of those.

[Hayes Davenport]

And so I think that their initial training was in demon hunting and that the pop singing came later. But I don't actually know the timeline. I say I watched it, but I sort of half watched it as my kids were watching it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is there, like, a Lou Perlman type? Is there somebody who puts the group together? Or is it we just come together through a shared love of music?

[Sean Clements]

Who's making money off this who's exploiting this?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's my question.

[Hayes Davenport]

There's a funny, like, manager character.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

Who's like, sort of. Yeah. Going like, we gotta get to here, blah, blah, you know, like, we got the next. Your big show coming up. And like, is sort of like a goofball and it's like, okay. But yeah. And the music is so popular.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, unbelievably popular. Yeah. I mean, I've heard the song once. I heard it and I thought, I get it.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is a powerful piece of music. They tapped into something here.

[Hayes Davenport]

There's a class, like an after school class at my son's school that his friends do where they just learn dances to the K pop demon hunters music. It's just a dance class for that soundtrack.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And now is this a thing where it's split between boys and girls? The boys want to dance like the evil demons.

[Sean Clements]

Hmm.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think they're all learning the same dance.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't know. He won't do it. I mean, that's like dressing up for hell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. He does not want to be involved.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's like.

[Hayes Davenport]

That would be participating.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you two dress up as kids?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, I did one year. My parents love to laugh about the year I insisted on being a chicken. Oh, it's so funny. Like a little kid doesn't know that it's not cool to be a chicken.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I guess he's 15.

[Sean Clements]

But they got me a chicken costume and I asked them to take it back, which they did. Because I wanted to be like a chick coming out of the shell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A chick. Oh, interesting.

[Hayes Davenport]

That's what I was picturing Easter coated.

[Sean Clements]

Little piece of shell on my head.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Very cute.

[Sean Clements]

And I got what wanted.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That feels like they had to const. That would be something a parent would have to construct. Do you buy an egg?

[Sean Clements]

You can. Oh, you can buy those, absolutely. Like Shawn's saying. I mean, they have Easter costumes. That's one of like two Easter costumes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The other's a lamb or the other's a bunny. How can I not get to bunny?

[Sean Clements]

Wham's a bad guess.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I know it's your show and you've been doing great with a lot of the other sections, but I'm thinking about.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm thinking about the religious half of this. You two have forgotten the true meaning of Easter. And you're thinking about the rabbit, and.

[Sean Clements]

I'm thinking about the Christian non Jane Goodall, chimp expert.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, that. But you didn't dress up Family Feud. You just get absolutely just nailed Annihilated. I should not go on that show.

[Hayes Davenport]

You're really so mad. Show me lamb.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Lamb would be on the list. At least give me that. Lamb would be on the list.

[Sean Clements]

Liam's number three. Number three, but yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How many do you get on on Family Feud? 5.

[Sean Clements]

It's the top. It. It has to. I think it's everything over, like, 1%. It's different.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it's never seen on episode. I've seen small clips of the show.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, it's fun. It's a good.

[Sean Clements]

Never sat down and watched a complete episode of Family.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Not a single one.

[Hayes Davenport]

You must have friends that have been on the celebrity version of it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I'm not. Who cares?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, I'm not watching that. Yeah, come on.

[Sean Clements]

Consistent. At least with the blunt bag.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, why. Can you tell me why you brought this? Just because it was a very cute puzzle.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, you know, I looked at some of the other gifts. So there was a backgammon set.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There is a backgammon set that made.

[Hayes Davenport]

Me think of, like, what else do you do on a tabletop? Oh, nice jigsaw puzzle. But we, you know, we go in and out of big being a big jigsaw puzzle house, where we really will go through a period where there's just always a puzzle on the table and somebody's just, like, working on it in pieces. And that can be a nice sort of soothing activity. You know, you forget, like, puzzles are nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They are.

[Sean Clements]

You need that. I mean, the thing is, what we doing were tapping into.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You want me to relax that little.

[Sean Clements]

Time to just like, turn your brain off.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, right. I got a. I've gotten. This is, I think, the third puzzle I've gotten on this podcast.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, well, this is something, because as I was grabbing it, my wife said, like, I wonder if he's gotten a puzzle before. And I said, I can't be held responsible for that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, no, no, no.

[Sean Clements]

It's too many episodes at this point.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, and if I had. If it was the same puzzle, but I've gotten a Cozy Christmas Village. Didn't do that one. Then I got all of the Republican presidents playing PO Scale puzzle.

[Hayes Davenport]

I've ever done all of them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All of them but Trump.

[Sean Clements]

Okay. Is that guy that paints some of them. That paints those presidents. I mean, that's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think it was one of those loser guys who does like the Republican presidents being cool.

[Sean Clements]

That's so many for one game of pool.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I guess. Maybe not all, but maybe the hits.

[Sean Clements]

The hits.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, is it a pool hall and there's multiple games going. Or is it just one table?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's just one table. One table. And I think only one or two. Trying to picture it now. I think they all are participating in the puzzle or in the pool. But I did it. It was 500 pieces, I think. And it took me 15 weeks to complete the puzzle.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, I wasn't putting my all into it and I wasn't excited about finishing it. But it did take way longer than I expected. And it was just on my kitchen counter for weeks. The only reason I kind of finally finished it was my boyfriend said that needs to.

[Sean Clements]

Kitchen counter is a tough place.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Well, that's for other stuff.

[Bridger Weiniger]

For someone who doesn't. I simply don't cook.

[Sean Clements]

Don't cook.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it didn't really matter. I guess it was probably good that I was using the space for something.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it took forever and it made me feel less than, you know, you start to wonder about yourself and how.

[Hayes Davenport]

Many puzzles are tricky.

[Sean Clements]

500.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think 500 is a sweet spot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Above. It's just too much.

[Hayes Davenport]

A thousand is like. You'll see a great puzzle that's a thousand. And you'll go like, this will be fun. And I feel like one time like a bunch of friends had rented a house like in Big Bear and we just had a big thousand piece jigsaw puzzle out and somebody was always working on it. It got finished over the course of the weekend. And that was fun. But if it's like just you or you and one other person working on a thousand piece, it's like not that fun to me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, it doesn't sound enjoyable at all.

[Sean Clements]

I go into more and more homes where they have a little room where the puzzle is partially completed. And you can just. Just like pop a piece in here and there. And you know, not that the green room here isn't cozy. The frame QR code is like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You should have to put the QR code together.

[Sean Clements]

You could put that puzzle not, you know, that's for you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But this one will not be in there.

[Sean Clements]

A puzzle on that table could be. It's a fun place.

[Hayes Davenport]

There appear to be.

[Sean Clements]

You're not allowed to move your front.

[Hayes Davenport]

Many rooms in this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There are plenty of rooms. One could have a puzzle in it. It's not a bad idea, to be honest.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think it could be nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels like a complaint or a.

[Sean Clements]

Show concept where like people are doing a puzzle. I want to go back to a question you were asking before.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Did you? I don't remember anything You, Sean and I used to get invited to the Maroon 5 Halloween party every year.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Jealous.

[Sean Clements]

Which was at Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Yes, that was. Lodge was the other location the last couple years. They aren't doing it anymore or much more likely. We just.

[Hayes Davenport]

We just fell off the invite list.

[Sean Clements]

But we used to go, what did you dress up as? You kind of had to dress up. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You must have had to dress up.

[Hayes Davenport]

You had to dress up for sure. I've never been a big dress up guy. It just feels like pressure to me.

[Sean Clements]

I just like, oh, yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

Expectations are so.

[Sean Clements]

I remember really freaking out here I'm.

[Hayes Davenport]

Dressing up, people go like, it's going to be good. Ooh, yeah. No, they're rubbing their fork and knife together. They're excited. So, like, yeah, one year I think you were involved in my costumes, but one time, I think I was a Jeopardy. Contestant and I basically went as you when you were on Jeopardy.

[Sean Clements]

I do.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I had like a. Like a sandwich board style, like, podium.

[Sean Clements]

In front of me.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I think I just dressed up as Hayes from his Jeopardy. Appearance.

[Sean Clements]

That's right. And I think you surprised me at the. At the party.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then.

[Sean Clements]

Sorry, I forgot about that.

[Hayes Davenport]

The other year, I think I also involved you in the costume, which is. I believe it was during the peak of Occupy Wall Street. And my wife and I went. She dressed as a cow, and I dressed as a milk carton. And we had protest signs that said, we are the 2% perfect. And I, on the back of my milk carton had a have you seen this boy? Poster? And it was an image of Hayes from when he was on Jeopardy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All of your costumes are Hayes on Jeopardy.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. And now I'm. I'm sort of taken back to the experience of, like, you go to this party where you're kind of nervous. There's a lot of really, really famous people there. I saw Courtney Love there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What was she dressed as?

[Sean Clements]

I. I don't. I. I really wish I was thinking the other day that. I wish I. I remember.

[Hayes Davenport]

Right, right.

[Sean Clements]

Because in my. So let me tell you who she was dressed as. In my head. Kurt Cobain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was going to say it was a Kurt. It could not possibly have been.

[Hayes Davenport]

I almost said it as a joke, but I know.

[Sean Clements]

I think I might have just.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There's no.

[Sean Clements]

Dressed her up like that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

In my head, she went as her dead husband.

[Sean Clements]

I. That's what I decided to remember.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, if anyone was going to do that, it would be Courtney Love. Right. She's a bad girl.

[Sean Clements]

She is.

[Hayes Davenport]

Did you ever watch the Montage of Heck documentary? No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Was it good?

[Sean Clements]

Oh, yeah, it's pretty good.

[Hayes Davenport]

But by far, to me, like, the best part of the whole thing is they have a lot of footage of, like, Kurt and Courtney together and, like, you know, home videos they took, basically, and there's just the two of them making fun of, but also clearly being jealous of Guns N Roses.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, weird.

[Hayes Davenport]

And, like, it's just. It's so humanizing. It, like, made me feel good where it's like, this fucking dude was the coolest person in the world and he couldn't get over the fact that, like, I'm sure Guns N Roses, like, album sales were higher, of course. And, like, also that he was like. And they're kind of lame to me. Like, they're kind of annoying and this is what people want. And I just was like, it's everybody.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that makes me feel so everyone feels.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. I think it's a. It's a very soothing balm.

[Sean Clements]

And that was how part of how you were cool at the time. Can't really do that today.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. That doesn't hate on something.

[Sean Clements]

You can't hate on your peers in that way.

[Bridger Weiniger]

On your bland period.

[Hayes Davenport]

No, no, no.

[Sean Clements]

Absolutely not.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You kind of have to just retreat, basically, and just let them continue to bulldoze their way through.

[Sean Clements]

And maybe part of it was like, people look at Courtney Love now and her amazing band was overshadowed by her personality.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love her personality, but I mean, people.

[Hayes Davenport]

I like aspects of it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure. It's probably not super fun to be around.

[Hayes Davenport]

And there's other things that I think I would classify as areas for growth in Cordylo's personality. And I'm not. And by the way, I'm not like, I'm a fan.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

But I don't think we're looking at a finished product.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There are some things she could work on. Yes. Some polish for me as well.

[Sean Clements]

Anyway, it was fun to see her at this party, but you're just like, vibrating in this space where you're just like, whatever, Jake Gyllenhaal, your peripheral vision. And then you see your friend is wearing a costume of you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

You're just like, oh, okay. It's just. It's another thing to the sort of.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Dreamlike nature of there for you.

[Sean Clements]

No, it was nice, but, like, wait.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What were you dressed as?

[Sean Clements]

I truly do not remember.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think you were Pikachu once.

[Sean Clements]

I was.

[Hayes Davenport]

You just had a big old Pikachu costume.

[Sean Clements]

I did. I had a full size Pikachu costume.

[Hayes Davenport]

I had One more costume that I remember that no one knew what I was, but that was sort of by design. And I went as Colin Farrell from True Detective Season 2.

[Sean Clements]

Perfect.

[Hayes Davenport]

Ray.

[Sean Clements]

Ray for sure.

[Hayes Davenport]

His name was Ray. And I used to. Obviously the last name was like, tip of my. It's like Vel Combe or Velcome.

[Sean Clements]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Ray Valcone.

[Sean Clements]

Valcone.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I was like, you know, that season came out and people immediately were like, this is. And I watched every episode and slipped it. I was like, I love Colin Farrell in this. He's so we. And so I had a pretty good. Cause he had a really distinct look. Like he had like long hair and a big mustache and sort of like a turquoise, like, bolo tie and like I got like a jacket that approximated it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have no recollection of that character. Well, I only watched a couple episodes and got off, but.

[Hayes Davenport]

Or got off.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's edit that off.

[Sean Clements]

Got off.

[Hayes Davenport]

And careful who you say that around.

[Sean Clements]

Shutting this off.

[Hayes Davenport]

We'll be needing. I hope I heard that wrong, Bridger messing around. It's fine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're good. No, I don't remember that character at all.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, yeah, well, he was one of the leads, so. Season two was Rachel McAdams, Colin Farrell and Taylor Kitsch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Taylor and Vince Vaughn is the bad.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Guy and somebody gets shot. That's all I remember. Right in the chest.

[Sean Clements]

No, sorry, you're not remembering that, right? No, nobody gets shot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No one gets hurt in this season.

[Hayes Davenport]

Ray gets shot. He's running through the. I think he's in the Sequoia Forest.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have some memory of someone standing in the living room getting shot directly in the chest with a shotgun in that season of the show. Maybe I just wanted that. That's what was missing.

[Sean Clements]

You want to be able to root for the characters.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's what I like.

[Sean Clements]

I'm not really that interested in watching someone shoot another human being.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, that's actually illegal.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How am I supposed to relate to someone who's being shot in the chest? Well, is there anything left to say about the puzzle?

[Sean Clements]

Wasn't that much to begin with, but I don't think there's anything left either.

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[Bridger Weiniger]

Do either of you have pets?

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, God, yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Dogs?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you dress those up?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, I have a big husky shepherd. He's very sort of beige, like, like, you know, £75 dog. And we will, just for the trick or treaters, like just when they show up, the kids, we'll put a, a lion's mane on him and let him answer the door. That's very cute. And, and it looks pretty good, but we don't. He doesn't, he doesn't hate it, but he doesn't love it. And so we'll kind of just put it on for the, you know, breeding two dogs. Two dogs back up to five cats after having gotten down to three. Seven Beatles son going to get a white tree frog for Christmas. That's been the big.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I had a tree frog face.

[Hayes Davenport]

That's a big. Yeah. That's been a lot of conversation about a tree frog. Just recently had to buy him a book on how to take care of tree frogs, which he's been asking me to do for about a month now. Right.

[Sean Clements]

Because he knows he's getting it or.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yes, he had, he had been really agitating For a fish. He's very interested in fish. And we were able to kind of steer him towards this, which I think he didn't know was an option. Like, I don't think he feels like he's settling as he's like, oh, wow. Cause I think they're a little easier to take care of. Maintaining a fish tank is disgusting. Really challenging, and, you know my memory of it.

[Sean Clements]

Five Garfields in the house.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I know.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. So I think the frog might be a little bit more manageable. But we have seven blue death feigning beetles that are in his room now that are like the easiest pet in the world if anyone has children that are interested in bugs. And like, who wants like a frog, lizard, whatever type creature? They're desert bug. They're big, they're kind of cool. You can hold them and you have to spray them, like mist them with water once a week.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Perfect.

[Hayes Davenport]

And basically put like crickets and dog food in their bowl.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like a plant.

[Hayes Davenport]

It like. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's the lifespan on a beetle?

[Sean Clements]

A few years in. Hard to know what you're.

[Hayes Davenport]

But I think it's. I think it's like five to seven years.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow, that's really impressive. I would say maybe six weeks.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, no, they're. They're going.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So when one of those dies, it'll be an emotional experience. Maybe.

[Hayes Davenport]

Okay. So I said we have seven. I think we have six actually. But the really crazy thing is they, they play positive. They're called death feigning beetles because if you touch them and they're nervous, they fold over and put their legs up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Up. Very cute.

[Hayes Davenport]

So at times I've been like, oh, no, this one's dead. And then sure enough, they are alive. But now I have seen one actually be dead. I don't know what age they are when we get them or any. You know, they just came in the mail.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, they come in the mail.

[Sean Clements]

They must have some that just feign death too much and they wake up in the freaking trash can.

[Hayes Davenport]

No, it almost happened. There was one that I was like this definitely. I was like sad. I was like, okay, well, one of them's dead. And I was like getting ready to get rid of. And then it was like, like, gotcha. Teasing you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You order them by mail. Fascinating.

[Hayes Davenport]

I did, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. I remember I've brought this up to people before, but I remember seeing bags of ladybugs you could buy. You ever seen these? Yeah, that's a real thing.

[Hayes Davenport]

Praying mantis as well. That's like a garden product. Like, if you go To a garden supply store. They'll have, like, a ladybug nest or whatever like that you can put in your garden.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'd love to get one of those again.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's kind of disgusting to begin with, but then they're all over your yard. Why not?

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Do you have cats, Bridger?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. I had two cats years and years ago. We have a dog now. She's only eight months old, though.

[Sean Clements]

There's this thing out there. Sean and I both have orange cats now, But I think it's an increasing online thing that the orange cats are, like, the most demented.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, mine were orange and they were, like wild animals.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, they were really.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Then they had to be, because I was moving across the country, blah, blah, blah. Were adopted by a woman, her daughter and her son, who is a YouTube magician. And I think they're taking care of them.

[Hayes Davenport]

Okay, shout out the YouTube channel.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm not shouting out the YouTube channel.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jesus Christ, Bridger. I mean, you pull the ladder back up behind you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Here you are. I'm enjoying his magic on my own.

[Sean Clements]

Do you see that as an extension of. Of. Of red hair discrimination? That this is, like, the path that people have found?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, they can hate the orange cat. Oh, absolutely.

[Sean Clements]

But you also agree that they are more insane.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're horrible. Yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Self loathing. You've internalized it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well. And also, oh, of course, orange cats are almost always male, which is strange.

[Hayes Davenport]

We have an orange, so it's less than 15% of them are female. We have a female orange cat.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Hayes Davenport]

And anytime we go to the vet or whatever with her, they're like, ooh, like, the cat enthusiasts know this. So we had. We had five cats. At one point. We were feeding seven cats because Tony, the feral who killed all the rats would come across the street. And there was a cat who lived up the street, but mostly came to our house for dinner and that. We called him Mr. Cheeks. He had very high, beautiful cheekbones.

[Sean Clements]

But.

[Hayes Davenport]

But then later, his owner discovered that he was at our house a lot. And his owner had named him Buddha. And sometimes he would show up for dinner, and I'd be like, hey, there, here's your dinner, Mr. Cheeks. And I'd hear him over the fence go, buddha. It's Buddha. It's like, what do you give a fuck? I'm taking care of the cat.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Doesn't care either.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. So anyway, those Mr. Cheeks moved. Tony's passed away. The two Maine coon mixes I had have passed away then. So we were down to these three tabbies that Were my wife's originally. And then this guy in the neighborhood dropped off four kittens to be like, can you foster these until they get adopted? Two of them got adopted right away. The other two orange ones, now they live with us.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, you're a big animal person. I didn't realize this.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, it's too many cats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a lot of cats. And all of them live in your house?

[Hayes Davenport]

Not really. The orange.

[Sean Clements]

Not really.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, there's like a separate structure that mainly the tabby's live. Live in. And then it's sort of like a cat hutch habitat. Yeah, like. Yeah, it's like a habitat. It's like cat trees and. Yeah, it's like a chicken coop esque thing.

[Sean Clements]

It's really nice.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then, well, it matches the house. So. Yeah. And then there's. The orange ones are in and out. But yeah, they. They tend to really spend a lot of their time on the roof.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I like that.

[Hayes Davenport]

They love to be up on the roof.

[Bridger Weiniger]

As they should.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I'm hoping, actually, fingers crossed, that they become. Because the cats that I had and that my wife had were useless in terms of killing rats. I think these orange ones might be our new hunters. Oh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If you're going to have a.

[Hayes Davenport]

They have a little bit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course, they've got the killer instincts.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. A woman came and told us that she saw the girl kill a cockroach on the sidewalk today.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Perfect.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I said yes. She's training, moving up the ladder, working the speed bag.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I think we should play a game. We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number between 1 and 10 for everyone.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jigsaw over here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, let's play a game. Speaking of Halloween, I need a number between 1 and 10 from you two.

[Sean Clements]

Okay. Let's see if we have the same one. No, we don't.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What were you going to say?

[Sean Clements]

Nine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, nine's high. Interesting. But this is why you two work so well together. Yeah. Well, we'll go.

[Hayes Davenport]

I'm a four and he's a nine. If I.

[Sean Clements]

If I were facing.

[Hayes Davenport]

Say it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just say it.

[Sean Clements]

If I were facing oz the mentalist, nine is what I would pick. Or possibly even 10.

[Bridger Weiniger]

10.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, I just feel like. I mean, I'm not going to 10's.

[Hayes Davenport]

On the table and people forget.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No one ever says 10 or not.

[Sean Clements]

Going to beat him at his own game. But I mean, I. I gotta take a swing at 10.

[Bridger Weiniger]

10, 4.

[Sean Clements]

I feel like I'm, you know, playing Right into his game.

[Bridger Weiniger]

People might as well not hear what happens.

[Hayes Davenport]

Seven is like everyone's doing it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure.

[Hayes Davenport]

Seven, please.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Eight's a nice one to get, but 10, I think maybe one person has ever done that and that was. They won't be asked back. But this is. I need you to use the microphone right now. You can recommend. Promote. I have to do some light calculating. On your own. I'm gonna leave.

[Sean Clements]

Do some light calculating to get our game features based on the number four.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The fact that you understand this, almost every game guest is so baffled when I say, but you got it immediately.

[Sean Clements]

I almost. I mean, I'm so intrigued. I almost want the calculation to happen out loud. But maybe that would give away that.

[Hayes Davenport]

Piece of it that's behind the curtain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But you can recommend, you can promote. Do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Sean Clements]

Well, you're already on Patreon.

[Hayes Davenport]

We're behind a curtain right now.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, I mean, this one click process, that's the appeal of Patreon, isn't it? To sample our [e-mail] it's Hollywood handbook.

[Hayes Davenport]

And Friends now, I believe Hollywood.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, that's not the URL, but certainly.

[Hayes Davenport]

Is the URL the flagrant one still or something?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do we have to keep it?

[Sean Clements]

That's a great question.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's look.

[Hayes Davenport]

Let's look.

[Sean Clements]

We've got. You love sports. We've got sports coming.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know what? I didn't do the QR code, so I probably can't even search for it.

[Sean Clements]

Can't do it.

[Hayes Davenport]

But we'll try.

[Sean Clements]

If you search Hollywood Handbook Patreon, you'll find video feeds of our main show, a bonus show, video feeds of that show, a basketball show, a baseball show, sometimes shows about our wild tales of the entertainment industry. It's a robust offering over there. Are we doing Sleep Cam? Doing sleep mukbangs or whatever Bridger's doing? We haven't gotten there quite yet.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sleep Cam? Yeah, People just watch me in bed. It's a sleep tape.

[Sean Clements]

It's asleep. How silly of me. Yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, here's your URL.

[Sean Clements]

Patreon.com CW Hollywood Handbooks.

[Bridger Weiniger]

CW Content Ward. Yes. Oh, really?

[Sean Clements]

No. I don't know.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, it gets pretty. Pretty risque over there.

[Sean Clements]

Content warning. You are about to be extremely, dangerously content.

[Hayes Davenport]

You're gonna love it.

[Sean Clements]

You're flatlining.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Satisfaction you'll feel with this thing. You had to change the URL?

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, we had initially. So when we launched the Patreon Hollywood Handbook was just on a network. It was Its own thing. And we, with our friend Carl Tartt, started this basketball show called the Flagrant Ones.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, right.

[Hayes Davenport]

Which we thought was kind of a fun. It was, you know, you can get a Flagrant one as a vowel, but it's also, you know, the Defiant Ones, I feel like, had come out recently. And so we. That was the title of the Patreon. Then we moved a lot of other stuff over there, and Andrew Schultz.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

Had it. He had a show called the Flagrant 2 for a while that was, like.

[Hayes Davenport]

The most popular Patreon.

[Sean Clements]

Now it's called Flagrant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

And yes, we have been accidentally listed among manosphere podcasts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You've been looking to break into that circle for a while.

[Lowe's Announcer]

No.

[Hayes Davenport]

People have been, I think, accidentally directed to us sometimes, and they've been, why.

[Sean Clements]

Didn'T Kamala Harris go on the Flagrant Ones?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yes. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. I don't think I even mentioned our Patreon's URL. Patreon.com I saidnogifts. I'm very proud.

[Sean Clements]

No CW.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No CW.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, everyone go to Patreon. This is how we play. Gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why.

[Sean Clements]

Great.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers, so you can lose. Yeah. Be very careful.

[Sean Clements]

Can't wait to hear how the four comes into play or whatever.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The four is long gone.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was used to randomize which ones I picked.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

To be fair. Okay, this first one is from a listener named John. A Gift or a curse Microwaves that display, enjoy your meal when the timer is done.

[Sean Clements]

Wow. I've never gotten a microwave like that.

[Hayes Davenport]

Me neither.

[Sean Clements]

I don't.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know I have two. You want me to talk through it, right? Yeah. So I have two, like, opposing instincts. One is, don't tell me what to do, you little food robot. You boss me around. But two is, why am I heating it up if I'm not gonna enjoy my meal, which I don't always remember to do. Sometimes, you know, you're microwaving, so you're in a hurry. The hustle and bustle. And it's like, we're not taking the time to enjoy our meal. A gentle reminder like that. I think I'm going gift.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, if it has language capabilities like that, then that means that it can be reprogrammed. If you have just a basic understanding of. Of the engineering.

[Hayes Davenport]

Microwave coding.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

The technology behind that and so it can be reprogrammed to say something like, ouch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Sean Clements]

When you're done using it. And so that can make you think twice about how many trips you're taking to the microwave, how hard you push.

[Hayes Davenport]

The buttons as well, tickling it.

[Sean Clements]

And then just for health purposes, you're like, okay, I'm going to be microwaving. Not as many things things, because it hurts a microwave. And now the microwave's healthy. I'm a little healthier. That seems like it could be a really nice gift.

[Hayes Davenport]

I'm also not starting a fire. I'm not making the lights flicker at my house.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I forgot about your microwave. Who knows if your home could handle this type of microwave?

[Hayes Davenport]

Probably not. Probably not.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're correct. It's a gift. Yeah, that's good tech. I don't have one of these. I can't afford a microwave that tells me anything. Mine has numbers and maybe an error message. I would love to have one of these things.

[Sean Clements]

I bet it scrolls along one of those little, happy little and letters. Might even be jumping up and down.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Little musical thing. Mine just beeps and goes down and has kind of a bad handle. So I think that's a nice thing to have.

[Hayes Davenport]

That'd be better.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it really keeps us present. Like you were saying, it's a nice reminder to be present with your microwaved dinner. Okay. The second one is from our listener, Patreon listener, Lisa, gift her a curse. Cars in America with the European license plate on the front. Have you seen these?

[Sean Clements]

A European license plate on the front. So it's a different license plate than the one in the back?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I think so. Sometimes I think they'll put up, like.

[Hayes Davenport]

A diplomat or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think it's more of, like, a.

[Hayes Davenport]

Car people to me. Oh, is that like. I used to hear that, like, if you wanted, like, a European car, you should go spend a month in Europe and drive around the car, and then you'd ship it back. It'd be less than buying the import or something. It can't be true. Maybe in the 90s, when I was learning about this, it was. But this is an easy one for me. This is a curse. It's just confusing. It's not.

[Sean Clements]

So it's deliberately confusing. I mean, that car. That car belongs to the nefarious art thief Thomas Crown. There's no one else that could be. It's designed.

[Hayes Davenport]

Who's more deliberately confusing?

[Sean Clements]

It's designed to use interpolation and NYPD alike. And so you flip the car backwards whenever you're being pursued by.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's even designed to fool his own lover.

[Sean Clements]

So he's actually across national jurisdictions at any given time. Depending on whether he sits in the front seat or the back seat, he's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Essentially on the ocean. No law applies to this man.

[Sean Clements]

But he appreciates the finer things, doesn't he? Almost seems more deserving of the art than just the lay person.

[Hayes Davenport]

And then you mention ocean. I go, the only person I know would have that car. Danny Ocean.

[Sean Clements]

Danny Ocean, right.

[Hayes Davenport]

He also would be willing to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He would love that car. Salivating over that sort of car. So you're saying curse.

[Hayes Davenport]

It's a curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Correct. Curse. Look, when I'm on the freeway, I need to know where I am. I need to know which country I'm in.

[Sean Clements]

Which side you're supposed to drive on on the freeway.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Suddenly, I'm sick to my stomach seeing that thing. Migraines galore. Where am I? Am I in Paris or Los Angeles?

[Sean Clements]

Us.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a tough thing to see.

[Hayes Davenport]

I have a. This needing to know where I am. This reminds me of maybe a fun story you might like. So I was working on the production of this show called Kevin Can Fuck Himself. And it filmed in Boston. It was during COVID and we were all in quarantine, but the star of the show, Annie Murphy, had been nominated for a Golden Globe. And so we went over to her apartment, all the, like, people who worked on the show and were friends with her so that we could kind of be there with her as she did, like, the COVID remote Golden Globe. And we were inside the, like, remote video zoom green room with all of the other nominees. One of them was Julia Garner.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

One of them was Gillian Anderson.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayes Davenport]

Gillian Anderson. Gillian Anderson.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a good question.

[Hayes Davenport]

But at any rate, Gillian, maybe I would say Gillian. Gillian Anderson. So everyone's sort of just awkwardly, like, all these just sitting in a silent zoom, like, as they wait for their category. And at one point, Julia says to. We'll go with Gillian. Gillian, it's so good to see you. We actually had dinner together a few months ago. I met you at a dinner. And Gillian goes, oh, really? In what country?

[Sean Clements]

Awesome.

[Hayes Davenport]

Can you believe that's her first question?

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a weird question.

[Hayes Davenport]

That's how she gotta narrow it down. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a life. Right?

[Sean Clements]

That's cool.

[Hayes Davenport]

I'm having dinner in so many countries.

[Sean Clements]

And also narrowed down, like, when she might have had dinner with Julia Garner.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, I'm certain that hasn't happened to me. I would have remembered.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. It's a barely, like, doesn't even really register for her. She's just with celebs all the time in every country she could imagine.

[Sean Clements]

Who won?

[Hayes Davenport]

I think Gillian.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Hayes Davenport]

I think.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And was that a move on Gillian's.

[Sean Clements]

She wouldn't show up.

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't remember. Honestly, I was. I blacked out after that happened.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which country?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. Isn't that good? Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's. She's a Thomas Crown type if there ever was one. Wow. Okay, you've gotten two right so far. This is the final one. This is from Patreon listener Marianne Gift or a curse? Being able to edit text messages after sending.

[Hayes Davenport]

Okay, this is the hard one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is the tough idea.

[Hayes Davenport]

This is the hard one. It's a gift. So why might it be a curse? This is the question. And the answer for me is sometimes you don't do it fast enough, and then you go, I wish I had done that. And if the technology didn't exist, I would never know that pain. But sometimes you do fix something that might have been a little embarrassing. And sometimes you can see that your friend made a mistake.

[Sean Clements]

First of all, it's cutting down on the number of texts I'm getting, which is a good thing, because if someone sends me. Almost there. Just porking and then sends me parking, that's 20 cents instead of just 10.

[Hayes Davenport]

Well, not only that, it would say just porking. Porking. I mean, porking, parking, and then an.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Angry I hate autocorrect or something like that.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, damn you, autocorrect.

[Sean Clements]

The emoji. The cursing emoji. It's like, don't curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Crass.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, absolutely. No need for that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm trying to have dinner.

[Sean Clements]

But it's also, it's fun to sign, and it's worth running up the bill a little bit to be able to then respond porking.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayes Davenport]

The funniness of saying porking.

[Sean Clements]

And then other people. There's other people in the chat, they can say porking, too. And we're, you know, we're like, we're spending a little money on the extra texts, but it's worth it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Phone planner.

[Hayes Davenport]

You sell. It's not like we never see typos. How about the people that, you know, you know, saw it and they just don't edit it too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's an attitude. I know what a life that person's leading.

[Sean Clements]

That's the country, the really rich, like, super rich producers. And the Sony hack was a real example of this. They aren't looking at their device while.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They'Re Sending emails from their AOL account.

[Sean Clements]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This was like. I think there was a whole article at one point where, like, people with AOL accounts are the richest people.

[Sean Clements]

They write emails like they are sprinting past the keyboard.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No time. Yeah. That's someone who doesn't care that much.

[Sean Clements]

That's cool. I could never do that.

[Hayes Davenport]

The most famous, powerful person I interact with sends mass emails that are just all typos. Every line of typos.

[Sean Clements]

Incredible.

[Hayes Davenport]

As if. Yes. As if he sneezed on the keyboard. And I'm like, wow. And no one's like, I get it.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. No one's ever going to say anything to him about it.

[Hayes Davenport]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why would you? I mean, that's the person in charge.

[Sean Clements]

He thinks that's how what words look like now.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. It is an interesting version of like, the protective bubble that you can find yourself in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yes. Like, kind of the ultimate example of that. You were showing everyone your behavior and no one is saying anything about it.

[Sean Clements]

It's nice to hear.

[Hayes Davenport]

But also just like, I think this person sends a lot more texts and emails than I do throughout the day. And, like, is just can't kind of worry over each panic piece of punctuation the way that I do of like, is this okay? I've got to show it to my wife. Is this okay if I say this back? So sounds good.

[Sean Clements]

I'll say curse, then. Oh, it's just sanding down the human experience. The variability of our.

[Hayes Davenport]

This is good. One of us has to win and one of us has to lose. So.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, you're saying curse. You're saying gifts. Yeah, it's a curse. I'm sorry.

[Hayes Davenport]

That's okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a curse.

[Hayes Davenport]

I could kind of feel it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Look, we want our texts, warts and all. We want to see our friends make mistakes. At the very least, you get to see your friend in a vulnerable state. And why not?

[Sean Clements]

You know, it's the last really pure communication format.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. It's. Texting is the only way we can really communicate with each other and show our true selves. But two out of three is not bad.

[Hayes Davenport]

I didn't want to win.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And that's a good attitude. We need to answer an email. People are writing into isaidnogiftsmail.com begging for answers. Will you help me answer a question?

[Sean Clements]

Sure. You have so many suggestions that you have to not just take a number from 1 to 10, but then do an additional computation on top of that to determine. So you're.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, wait, the game.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a very complicated show. This is a thinking person's show.

[Hayes Davenport]

Every aspect of the layers of this thing, man, that we've been. The hoops I jumped through to come sit at this table is out of control.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, this is. Hi, Bridger. I have two younger brothers who are both incredibly difficult to shop for. I consider myself to be a good gift giver, but I really struggle with the two of them, especially since I don't spend a ton of time with either of them. The Younger1 is 18 and makes electronic music. This is his only hobby and it's too expensive to buy him music equipment. The other is 21 and doesn't have any hobbies, unless you count smoking pot and hanging out with this cat to be a hobby. It's a little judgment on there. My question is, how do you shop for two young boys who aren't into many things? Sincerely, that's from Annie in Montana.

[Hayes Davenport]

AI girlfriend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

AI Girlfriend.

[Hayes Davenport]

AI Girlfriend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Both of these men are lonely.

[Hayes Davenport]

Both need an AI girlfriend, girlfriend. One of them has the easiest question you've ever gotten. It's an AI girlfriend.

[Sean Clements]

They're out in Montana.

[Hayes Davenport]

Honestly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God. Big sky country.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. They absolutely can share. One could share.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The whole planet could share one single AI girlfriend. That's the power of AI. That's why we're pouring money into this.

[Hayes Davenport]

We're all married to Simone.

[Sean Clements]

What was the second brother do?

[Bridger Weiniger]

He doesn't do anything, but he smokes pot and hangs out with hang out with his cat sister Hayes.

[Sean Clements]

How about this for the EDM brother? You know how Steve Aoki throws a big sheet cake into the gimmick? Yes. You can get the sheet cake for the one EDM brother to throw at the stoner brother. And then he's got the munchies. He could just be eating that cake off himself.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A two for one.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. And it's not like this guy has like. I mean, he's a kid who is into edm. He doesn't have, like huge crowds. He probably just has the brother. So he's gonna throw the sheet cake at him.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Person. Yeah, I'd love to see Steve Aoki throw it. Just. I can't get one person just in.

[Sean Clements]

The, you know, just probably in the living room.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, I think that that kind of just ends. I don't have anything to add to that. Really. The AI girlfriend is free. The cake is going to run her, what, $20. She can have a nice message put on it for both of them.

[Hayes Davenport]

What?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who.

[Sean Clements]

What is the sheet cake in Montana? I think you could probably get one for.

[Hayes Davenport]

We think we're single digits.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. I think 29.

[Hayes Davenport]

I don't think single.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think teens.

[Hayes Davenport]

The ones that he does, maybe 8.99 plus tax. And then by the time you check out, you're looking about 12 bucks.

[Sean Clements]

He does the bigger ones. I was picturing a more like teen size.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A teen sheet cake. They're all the rage, the teen sheets. I was recently. I had to buy a cake at a grocery store, and I was shocked by how cheap they actually are.

[Sean Clements]

Cakes are crazy. That was part of my instinc.

[Hayes Davenport]

Solved it.

[Sean Clements]

They're crazy cheap.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. If you go to the grocery store, a decorated object should cost a decent amount of money, but then you're like, oh, this was $9.

[Sean Clements]

It's terrifying how. How cheaply something like that can be put together, right?

[Hayes Davenport]

Teenage sheet cake to the tune of Teenage Dirt Bag.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That song's, like, kind of due for a. A commercial parody or at least.

[Hayes Davenport]

I'm sorry.

[Sean Clements]

I'm so relieved when you're singing that song in the car. I'm so relieved when you get to dirt, because you don't have to be pushing the word through your nose as much. Oh, right now with sheet, I have to do that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God, you're gonna end up.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, my God.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Whole nasal passage collapses. Well, we answered the question perfectly. Don't write back in. And I have my puzzle.

[Sean Clements]

So tell me about this.

[Hayes Davenport]

Enjoy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm glad you two finally agreed to be on the podcast.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And thank you for being here.

[Sean Clements]

Thank you, Bridger.

[Hayes Davenport]

Thanks for having us, Bridger listener.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The podcast is over. I have my puzzle. You have nothing. Find something to do with your day. Please, I'm begging you. I love you.

[Hayes Davenport]

Good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Hayes Davenport]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Sean Clements]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Sean Clements]

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[Hayes Davenport]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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