Hayley Marie Norman Disobeys Bridger

Summary

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I Said No Gifts! — "Hayley Marie Norman Disobeys Bridger"

Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Hayley Marie Norman
Date: October 2, 2025

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Overview

This episode of "I Said No Gifts!" brings comedian, actress, and all-around vibrant personality Hayley Marie Norman into Bridger Winegar’s backyard for a lively and hilarious conversation. As always, guests are instructed to bring no gifts, but, as tradition dictates, Hayley arrives with a present, setting the stage for a chat about nostalgia, LA culture, merch obsessions, relationships, pets, public urination, and everything in between. Expect witty banter, insightful tangents, and a genuine sense of camaraderie between host and guest.

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Main Topics & Key Moments

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Merch Mania & Nostalgia

[03:50—18:10]

• Hayley’s “Merch Era”: Hayley reveals her current fixation on buying merch wherever she goes, discussing recent acquisitions (Alabama Shakes concert tees, 30th Anniversary Clueless memorabilia).
  • "Everywhere I go, I buy merch." — Hayley [03:58]
• Clueless Obsession: Hayley discusses loving Clueless, breaking down the stereotyped roles (Dion vs. Cher) and striving for authenticity in her fandom.
  • “I'm very clearly a Cher." — Hayley [05:35]
• Clueless Jeep Story: Bridger and Hayley bond over iconic pop-culture vehicles, leading to Hayley's real-life purchase of a white Jeep Wrangler with unique denim interior — her very own homage to Clueless.
  • “Who sends to automobiles? They should have a Clueless Jeep. Special edition.” — Bridger [06:19]

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LA Life and Car Drama

[07:56—10:35]

• Car Shopping Wars: Both recount the post-pandemic car shortage nightmare in LA, and the weirdness of modern car buying—leather seats, burned thighs, bee droppings, and the economics of car washes.
  • “Why is [leather] even put in a car?” — Bridger [08:20]
  • “Bees are constantly pooping on my windshield.” — Bridger [09:27]

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Vintage & Merch Ethics

[10:45—18:15]

• Defining Vintage: They debate what qualifies as genuinely "vintage" (pre-2000, pre-fast fashion).
  • “Anything...post-1992 is not vintage. Should never be called vintage.” — Bridger [16:30]
• Fast Fashion Gripes: Concerns about declining clothing quality, fast fashion, and even the possible health implications.
  • “Our clothes are giving us cancer.” — Hayley [17:39]
• Cleaning Clothing with Science: Hayley and Bridger riff on freezing vintage clothing to clean it (“I am a scientist so I can speak to this” — Bridger [15:52])

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Health Anxiety, Sleep, and Dementia

[18:15—20:22]

• Golf Courses & Health: Terrifying stat: Living within a mile of a golf course increases Parkinson’s risk.
  • “If you live within a mile of a golf course, it increases your chances of getting Parkinson’s by 126%.” — Bridger [18:15]
• Sleep Medication Confessions: Hayley opens up about her struggle with sleep, reliance on Xanax, and wild Ambien stories.
  • “I used to have a lot of sleepwalking incidents as a kid and...I can’t risk that.” — Bridger [20:08]

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The Gift Exchange

[21:40—26:53]

• Hayley’s Gift: Defying show rules, Hayley presents a 'premium scalp massager' in a beautiful watercolor bag, with a witty card.
  • "When I saw this, I thought of you and exclaimed, Bridger needs this." — Hayley [24:34]
  • The two try their gifts together, both delighted.
  • “This is a dream come true.” — Bridger [25:51]
• Notable Moment: Hayley admits she kept one for herself so they could “match.”
  • “I took out one so we could be matching.” — Hayley [25:02]

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TV, Auditions and the “Wanda” Curse

[27:01—33:29]

• Unfiltered Acting Tales: Hayley shares her experience auditioning for "The Hunting Wives," frequently called in for stereotyped roles like “Wanda,” and riffs on industry typecasting.
  • “There’s only one Black Wanda, and it’s Wanda Sykes.” — Hayley [27:56]
• Wild TV Practices: Netflix “second screen” standards (making TV understandable while viewers glance at their phones.)
  • “Is it second screen enough?...That is such a dark thing to hear.” — Bridger [33:03]
• Guilty TV Habits: Both confess to constant TV watching, pausing, and multitasking.

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Public Peeing, Relationships, and Bodily Honesty

[35:05—37:44]

• Glowing & Hydrated: Both talk about hydration, segueing into public urination.
  • “Last year I made a big prediction that public urination would be big this year. And it turns out it’s true.” — Bridger [35:09]
  • “I love peeing in public.” — Hayley [35:15]
• Pee Preferences in Relationships: Hayley’s openness and curiosity about seeing partners pee, Bridger’s boundaries.
  • “I want to see someone pee. I think it’s sexy.” — Hayley [36:43]
  • "No, do not pee in front of each other." — Bridger [37:52]
• Pet Interruptions: Hayley and Bridger share stories of their pets barging in on their bathroom time.

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Rescue Pets & LA Critter Tales

[38:35—47:06]

• Rescues and Veterinary Dramas: Hayley details caring for senior rescue dogs and cats, including expensive veterinary escapades.
  • "My dogs have cardiologists, oncologists, ophthalmologists..." — Hayley [38:52]
• Pet Tattoos & Serendipitous Pet Adoption: Hayley shows a new cat tattoo and recounts a surreal story of dreaming about a specific cat, then encountering that exact cat on a TV set the next day.
  • "I could not shake this dream about rescuing a cat...it was the exact color from my dream." — Hayley [46:30]

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Cat Allergies & Relationship Tests

[47:33—50:01]

• “Allergic” to Cats Debate: Hayley accuses most people (including her boyfriend) of faking or exaggerating cat allergies; Bridger sides with her skepticism.
  • “I thought I was allergic to cats. We’ve all convinced ourselves we’re allergic to cats.” — Hayley [48:23]
  • “If you’re not willing to get a shot for me to be around my cats...do you even love me?” — Hayley [48:54]

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Fame, LA Youth & Gen Z Smoking

[50:01—52:39]

• When to Get Famous: They muse on maturity, brain development, and how getting famous too young warps you.
  • “You shouldn’t be allowed to be famous until you’re 45.” — Bridger [50:22]
• Gen Z Fatalism: The rise of smoking among LA Gen Z, nihilistic attitudes, and “the end is nigh” thinking.
  • “Everything is ruined. Why not kill ourselves?” — Bridger quoting Gen Z [51:36]

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Short Film Brag & Commercial Queen

[56:48—58:53]

• Hayley’s Directing Era: Hayley promotes her short film "The Errand" (Vimeo Staff Pick), and her impressive streak of national commercials (including shooting one with the Geico Gecko).
  • “I just had a short film...chosen as a Vimeo staff pick.” — Hayley [56:48]

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Gift or Curse: The Game

[60:37—66:08]

Highlights:

1. Right Turn Green Arrow:
   • “Curse.” — Hayley; Bridger agrees, decrying unnecessary complexity. [61:12]
2. Family-Style Dining Out:
   • Hayley calls it a "gift" (loves sharing everything as long as hands are clean), but Bridger deems it a "curse" citing polite deprivation and chaos. [64:41]
   • "No. You're too nice. Get what you want. Go get yours." — Hayley [66:00]
3. Waiter Making Entree Choice by Running Out:
   • Hayley dislikes, wants autonomy; Bridger says, "gift"—revels in having the choice made, the universe intervening. [68:53]

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Listener Question: Did I Miss My Moment?

[73:55—77:23]

• Janine’s Dilemma: A listener spotted Bridger on LA streets but didn't say hi—should she have?
  • Hayley relishes recognition and recommends enthusiastic outreach. Bridger says: “Janine, I would have loved to hear from you. Janine, I'm hurt.” [75:16]
  • The consensus: Next time, honk, yell praise, and “add some texture to my day.” [75:29]
  • "I love attention. I can’t wait to be really, really famous." — Hayley [76:15]

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Notable Quotes

• Hayley: “Everywhere I go, I buy merch.” [03:58]
• Bridger: “Anything...post-1992 is not vintage.” [16:30]
• Hayley: "Our clothes are giving us cancer." [17:39]
• Bridger (about public peeing): “Last year I made a big prediction that public urination would be big this year. And it turns out it’s true.” [35:09]
• Hayley: “I want to see someone pee. I think it’s sexy.” [36:43]
• Hayley (on pets): "My dogs have cardiologists, oncologists, ophthalmologists..." [38:52]
• Bridger: "If you live within a mile of a golf course, it increases your chances of getting Parkinson’s by 126%." [18:15]
• Hayley: "If you're not willing to get a shot for me to be around my cats...do you even love me?" [48:54]
• Bridger: “Janine, I would have loved to hear from you. Janine, I'm hurt.” [75:16]
• Hayley: "I love attention. And I love feeling famous." [76:17]

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Tone and Dynamic

Clever, spontaneous, and irreverent, the conversation flows with classic LA banter and a blend of earnest vulnerability, showbiz satire, and outrageous personal confessions. Hayley’s energy matches Bridger’s dry wit, delivering both social commentary and playful absurdity.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

Even if you've never heard Bridger or Hayley before, you'll feel like you're eavesdropping on two friends who move easily from pop culture deep cuts and LA hazards to intimate relationship quirks and existential dread about the future. You'll learn about merch hoarding as a form of therapy, the mystery of the Clueless Jeep, why most millennials should stop claiming cat allergies, and what it takes to adopt a rescue animal in Los Angeles. You'll also hear two professionals discuss the topic of public urination with the absolute seriousness it no doubt deserves.

Above all, you'll get a sense of Hayley's quick candor—she's equally at home talking about her work behind the camera, her rescue pets, or why it's her destiny to become (and enjoy!) being truly famous.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Merch obsession & Clueless Jeep: 03:50–08:09
• LA car shopping headaches: 08:16–10:33
• Vintage vs. fast fashion: 15:46–18:15
• Health risks of modern living: 18:15–20:22
• The gift reveal & scalp massager demo: 24:52–26:53
• Auditioning as "Wanda": 27:01–28:32
• Rescue pet saga & dream cat: 45:02–47:18
• Fame, Gen Z, and end times: 50:01–52:39
• Short film, ads, and Geico Gecko: 56:48–58:53
• Gift or Curse game: 60:37–66:08
• Janine's missed drive-by greeting: 73:55–77:23

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Closing Thought

At its core, this episode is about connection—between host and guest, animal and human, fandom and identity, and, yes, even between strangers on an LA sidewalk. As always, it's also about breaking the "I Said No Gifts!" rule, just to see what new stories (and scalp massagers) might emerge.

Transcript

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[Hayley Marie Norman]

When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you got to come to me empty handed. I said no guil.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Your presence is present enough.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. Oh, what's happening? Let's see. Yesterday I saw Jaws in the movie theater. Thrilling time. Although I will say about half an hour of Jaws is just three men talking on a boat and that could have been left on the cutting room floor. I I became bored. I was bored during Jaws and it was the part when they're supposed to be finding the titular Jaws. So you know when you're looking for a shark, it should be thrilling. It shouldn't be three guys bonding. So that was tough. But the movie overall is of course mildly frightening. What else is going on? It's just been nonstop heat. I'm sweating Constantly. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you know, I hope if you have a problem or if you're struggling with something, just know it's entirely your fault. And I blame you. So we should get into the podcast because I think I covered everything. I feel like I'm not saying that we have merch often enough and I'm sure the network is upset. Go to exactlyrightstore.com. there's all kinds of merchandise. Buy some merchandise. Today's guest is just so wonderful. We should get into the show. It's Hayley Marie Norman.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Hayley, Hi.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Welcome to. I said no gifts.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you for having me. And can I just tell you that I'm actually in my merch era.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're in your merch era?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm in my merch era.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How so?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Everywhere I go, I buy merch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's some recent merch you've bought?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, so I bought some really good Alabama Shakes merch. I just saw them at the Hollywood Bar.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, lovely. Wonderful.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I spend money on merch. Like, I don't just go up to the merch table and get a sticker.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You go for it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I go for it at Alabama Shakes. I got a short sleeve shirt. Okay. I got a long sleeve shirt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I got a hologram poster. And it was like, of a limited edition, like 200 or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is them flagging you as like a worrisome fan. Oh, this woman could be dangerous.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

She could be dangerous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's on the path.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just. It's the 30 year anniversary of Clueless, which is one of my favorite movies.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, right.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And okay, this one's. I was gonna say this one's actually embarrassing, but, you know, I'm just gonna own it. Mattel put out a line of 30th anniversary Clueless merch, and I bought every.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, what. What are they selling?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, I will say your dress is kind of clueless coded.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, kind of. It feels like it would be right on cue for the movie.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you. I grew up. Okay, okay. I grew up being almost embarrassed to say that Clueless was my favorite movie because people would associate it with, like, being vapid or whatever, which is basically.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Saying they didn't watch the movie.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you. You get it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, they're morons.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They're morons. And then now I've come into it a little bit more, especially. Cause some of my favorite female comedians are like. Why did I say female comedians? That was weird.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, because women Are rarely funny.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Women are rarely funny. The few funny women that are out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There, there are two or three of them.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And they all like Clueless.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So it's. Soon you'd be like, okay, I can really own it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But when I was a kid and I was watching Clueless, everyone said I had to be Dion because I was black. And I was very upset because I'm very clearly a Cher.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I can tell you're a Cher.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The dress alone is Cher.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I would like. I was. Thank you. You freaking. You get me. So with merch, 30th anniversary of Clueless. Mattel put out a line. So I got the Cher doll, the Clueless doll. I mean, the Cher doll, the Dion doll, the Polly pocket. I don't give a shit about Polly Pockets. But I had to get it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The uno Clueless Polly pocket. So it's like Cher as Polly Pocket.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And the Jeep, the white Jeep Wrangler. A little Dion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I drive the Jeep. Are you kidding me?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I have the Jeep in real life.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You drive a white Jeep.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just got it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just got it. See, I told you. I'm, like, in my merch area, but in a way that might mean I'm, like, deeply devoid of happiness.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who sends to automobiles? They should have a Clueless Jeep. Special edition.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They should have a. Okay, do not get me started. I am already in a. And I just bought this one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that would be a nightmare for you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I would have to turn it back and go, I need the official Clueless.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Jeep, or you would lose a lot of money. You'd be.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And it might be worth it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It probably would. That's truly a missed opportunity on the Jeep Corporation's part to not.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Because that part is iconic.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Because of Clueless, and they're always talking about Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park Jeep.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Who cares?

[Bridger Weiniger]

We've seen enough of that Jeep.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We've seen so much of that Jeep.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everyone loves the classic white Jeep.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. It's so fun.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have more fun in that Jeep. The other Jeep, you get killed by dinosaurs.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly. And I feel like I got a really special Jeep, white Jeep, because I just showed up to the dealership randomly, and they were trying to get me to buy, like, a black one or whatever other color one. And I was like, I only want a white one. And they were kind of playing like, oh, we don't have a white one. Blah, blah, blah. And then the girl who I was buying it from went to the back. She came back. She was like, we actually do have A white one. And she was like, they were trying to throw me off the scent of this white one because it's a really special one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's special about it?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So it has denim interior.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God. This is a dream.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's so cool. It's a sport. So it's like kind of high up. It's fucking hot, dude. It's hard top. It's the fucking best car. And so they were trying to get me off the set and get me to buy another one. So the girl had to go to the back and say. She is. It's. She loves clueless. She's relentlessly take weight. She's relentless.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How does it feel to sit on a denim seat?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, it still feels soft.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Great question.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. It doesn't feel like jeans. There's no chafing. Okay. Yeah. Which is good for me because I wear.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, you're in, like, a shorter dress right now.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes, baby.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it's like a. Probably like a washed denim or something.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's a washed denim.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've never heard about this before. I recently got a car and the seats are leather, and I was such an obvious mistake.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Do they get really hot?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. Why is that even put in a car?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't know. I don't know. It's horrible.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I, like, I felt like I was getting this great deal because the last car I got was during the car shortage. And it was one of these things where you would go in and the car sales people would be like, well, deal with it. We can charge whatever we want.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I was paying way too much. And so when I got this car, I was like, oh, I can get whatever I want now. I've got this leather that burns my legs.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait, what kind of car do you have?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a Hyundai.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's a Hyundai. Those are good cars.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're great cars. I'm obsessed with Hyundais now.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

How weird was that car shortage thing, though?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it was absolutely wild and a true nightmare. If you had to get a car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It was a true nightmare because you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Don'T want to have to just crumble in front of a car salesperson.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I remember going to the Prius dealership in North Hollywood, and they were like, we have one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You had literally one car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We have one Prius.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The one good thing about it was selling your car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Getting rid of your old car. You were like, oh, I'm actually making money on a car. How is this happening? Yeah, but now I've got leather and my legs are just burning up all the time I've gotta be in pants.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Why don't you get one of those? You know, those weird, like, 90s sun dash things?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I should get one of those.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You should get one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I need one for the outside of the windshield because I have bee. Bees are constantly pooping on the windshield. Bees. Bees, yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know what? Honestly, I love that because, you know, we have a bee shortage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it kind of is like. It's a positive sign.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think it's a good sign that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I at least have too many bees around my home, which I think that.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Means you have good energy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You're helping pollinators.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But they're destroying my windshield. And it's like I get my. I would prefer to get my car washed around every 18 months. And now it's like, once a month, which to me is overpriced.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's a lot. And a car wash isn't cheap.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Car wash is not cheap. I'm obviously getting the absolute cheapest.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, but it's still, what, $50?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, well, you're going to a nice car wash. I'm simply paying $11.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

O. Oh, you're going through the drive through.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The drive thru one.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, yeah, I'm going through that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

In the future, you're taking care of your car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I did. Well, I had a Prius beforehand. Okay. Do you know who Katherine Burns is? She's like, part of our group. Ish.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Katherine. Now I feel bad. I should have said yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You should have said yes. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, I know Katherine, and I love her. She does Katherine Reach out.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. You should have her on this podcast. She's amazing. She does a lot of. She's a choreographer, but she does a lot of, like, comedy choreography. She was nominated. I think she even won an Emmy for my crazy ex girlfriend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So when she won an Emmy, I bought her old Prius from her because she got a Tesla back when Tesla was.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a funny move when you win an Emmy. My car's for sale.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I bought it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Good for you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So with that car, I went through the car wash.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. But I won't do that now. There's a certain level of car where you're like, I'll just go through the thing that beats it today.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And for me, that's literally any car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But I don't know. If you had my Clueless Wrangler, you might go hand wash only.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, maybe if I was in a wrangler. Clueless Wrangler. That's a very special type of automobile. Yeah, And I don't think Cher was going through the well. And also, wait, is. Does it doesn't have a top?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, it. Well, you can remove it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So I have it on most of the time. I only took it off for the first time this weekend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And how was that feeling?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It was so fun, but mostly because I was just excited. Cause I knew I was gonna be able to take hoe pictures after.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, of course.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Like, I was like, we're taking the top off. We're going to the beach. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. But what's gonna be better are the hot photos I'm gonna get from this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's the only car you can do a hot photo in.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

O God, these photos are hot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Were they at the beach?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, the beach was in the background, but my butt was in the foreground.

[Bridger Weiniger]

As it should be.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

As it should be.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Honey, you should do a calendar. You should sell calendars.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And team up with Jeep and Clueless.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And since I'm in my merch era, why don't I have my own merch?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a good question. And this brings us back to merch. I want to know if there's any other merch you've bought.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay. Yes, I. Well, I just had a film play at the Silver Lake shorts. And so I bought merch there. I'm telling you, anywhere I go, I'm buying.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think it's a good idea. Merch is there. You know, people are selling the merch because they needed a little extra cash.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Especially if you're at a musician's concert. Buy a piece of merch.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Buy a piece of merch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Throw them an extra 25 to $50.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I feel like they. Okay. There's a part of me that loves it for the now. It makes me feel like I curating this cool life experience. And I like wearing the things and I'm just like. But also there's this idea that I'm like, this is gonna be so cool in like 25 or 30 years.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Even though I don't know if the Earth is still gonna exist or the earth will exist. I don't know that humans will exist, but my Andre 3000 shirt will.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And some. I mean, if someone comes from another planet, them stumbling upon the Andre 3000.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Shirt, they're gonna love it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And Andre 3000 would be so happy that happened.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, he would love that alien tour.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's probably his dream.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's his dream.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's probably his ultimate fantasy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let me ask your op. How much a merch t shirt should cost?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

25.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Not a dime more.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have you ever been to Clark Street Diner?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, I haven't.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wonderful restaurant here in Los Angeles. Fantastic diner. They have a great T shirt, great piece of merch with a lovely picture of breakfast on it. I think they're charging $45.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Unacceptable.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That is. That's the price with a long sleeve.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's what. That's the. Not only. That's the price of a long sleeve. If I was at Dantana's, Dantana's has merch now too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

If Dantana's had a long sleeve shirt, I would say, okay, I'll pay $45 because it's Dantana's. I'm not paying $45 for Clark Street T shirt. T shirt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

$25.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

How soft is that?

[Bridger Weiniger]

30 max. It's just regular cotton. What are we talking about? Disgusting. They've gone too far. They've gone way too far with this. And I feel bad saying it because I eat there probably four times a week. But they've got to rearrange the T shirt prices.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

If you eat there four times a week, I want them to give you the shirt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've said that. I haven't said it to an employee yet, but I feel like they probably owe me a T shirt at this point.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They're listening now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They have ruined me financially. I don't have the money to buy the T shirt.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm too busy spending it on a Cobb salad.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I did get a piece of merch. That was disappointing recently.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What was it?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So Seinfeld is like my favorite show.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So when I was in New York, I got the merch from Tom's Diner, where they're always eating. It was a very hard cotton.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, no.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And the oversized. Wasn't oversized enough. So when I wear it, I feel like I'm working at Tom's Diner.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's. That's like late 90s, early thousands merch. When there wasn't quite the quality that you needed for merch. It was a last thought.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And usually those things would be free. It would be thrown in as a promo item. So you're getting trash.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, we are. This is a true sign of inflation or just bad times. But now we have. You're right. We used to be able to get merch for free.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Oh, it's such a shame.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just spent $200 on a vintage Seinfeld sweatshirt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. And because I'm an LA girly, it's A vintage Seinfeld sweatshirt, but from KTLA when they started syndicating it. So it's got the KTLA thing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a dream piece of merch because. Very specific, Hyper local. My favorite piece of merch I got at a car test drive. It's a Subaru T shirt.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, that's good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's Now, I think 17 years old and it's falling apart, but I can't let go of it. It's my favorite shirt.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Do you wear it? Yes. Okay, good. Because you know, some people won't wear their vintage shirts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This one, it looks too good not to wear. A friend recently told me though, you have to stop washing, you need to put it in the freezer. Have you ever heard this?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh my God. I heard this about jeans and I forgot it. Okay, tell me everything. Cause I don't think I'm doing my vintage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Evidently you cannot. Once you get to a point when they're starting to get holes in it, you will destroy the thing if you put it through the wash. But if you put it in the freezer, just leave it in the freezer for a day or whatever. And look, I am a scientist so I can speak to this. Apparently the bacteria is killed and that's how you clean it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

This is good for me to know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I'm curious about scent.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, find out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Body.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, I have a question for you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So you said you're vintage. Okay, you said you were 17 year old Subaru shirt, and I immediately started calling it vintage. And I'm thinking, I know there's going to be people listening, going, 17 years old, that's not vintage. What constitutes vintage for you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is a great question. And I really feel like anything that was made post 1992 is not vintage. Should never be called vintage.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait, post 1992, okay, maybe that's a.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Little, I would say 90, let's say 98.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, you're right on the money. I think they've decided, I think they've decided that anything made after, before 2000 is considered vintage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That makes a little more sense because when I like go thrifting and I'm at like an actual thrift store, not like a curated place, it's now just like truly like, oh, this shirt is from 2009 Target and it's kind of like, I guess you could argue that it's vintage, but it just looks like garbage.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's just garbage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Or it's like a T shirt for Limp Bizkit or something. And it's just like, this is from a bad. Maybe it's bad period of time or something.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I feel like you just associate vintage with, like, 60s, 70s, 80s, and now early 90s.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, but I mean, but that also might be us wanting to ignore the fact that we're getting older.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I'll also say I think the quality of clothes were better then.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, 100%.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So we got to this once we got into the world of fast fashion. Vintage is a nightmare, and our clothes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Are giving us cancer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know about that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're both getting it right now.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm. I could. I'm selling. Are going crazy in my body.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everything I'm wearing. Let's see, I guess this was made in 20, probably 10. I bought this used. My pants are new, My socks are new. Yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm loaded up with cancer.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But you're. You're safe from the top up because I can tell this is a good quality shirt you said you got in 2010. So you're definitely not getting cancer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And this seems like a good quality dress you're in.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It is. It's by the. It's. It is new, but it's by this local LA company called Damson Matter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I like that name.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly. Me too. And they make every. Everything is like eco with no chemicals and stuff.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you know a terrifying fact I learned last night is that if you live within a mile of a golf course, it increases your chances of getting Parkinson's by 126%.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I heard that. What's happened?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why have we not closed down every golf course?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And what's the 125ft? Or what is it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

A mile? A mile within a mile?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. 125ft.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's nothing. If you live directly on a golf course, you will get Parkinson's. No, but a mile, which is a pretty big distance.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's a big distance. And then what's happening to the people that golf all the time?

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're getting Parkinson's.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm really scared of getting dementia. Oh, I have a real fear.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. And there's kind. Well, maybe they're working on it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't think so. I don't think they're working on anything.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is dementia something that kind of runs in the family, or is it something that can just pop up?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think both. My grandpa definitely got dementia, but he was a raging alcoholic.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Oh, yeah. They've said that heavy alcohol consumption, I think, can contribute to it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right. Can contribute to it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And again, I'm a scientist, but I'm.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Not a great sleeper, so I take stuff to help me sleep.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, boy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I go, I think this is probably gonna contribute to me getting dementia. But I can't get off of it because I feel like I'm too busy to be tired. So I need to check myself out of life for, like, six weeks.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Catch up.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Catch up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Get your head above water.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Get. My body used to not taking anything to sleep.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What are you taking to sleep?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Xanax. But I just take it to sleep. That's it. But in my, like, maybe 10 or. No, 10 or 15 years ago, I tried Ambien.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, scary.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But I was one of those people that was doing crazy shit on Ambien.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah. There's no way I could take Ambien. I would absolutely, like, burn my house down or something.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, you would have a Subaru shirt in the washing machine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Ultimately, I would destroy a vintage T shirt. The worst thing of all. That's why I'm not on Ambien.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's so frightening. And I used to have a lot of sleepwalking incidents as a kid and frequently caused by, like, medication, you know, like, if I was sick or whatever. So I'm, like, as an adult, when I'm fully capable of doing anything. I can't risk that.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. You cannot risk that. Your reputation could be destroyed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

My reputation's on the line. What would people think about me? What would happen to the reviews of the podcast?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. They might tank.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well. Oh, gosh. Look, speaking of, you know, horrible things happening to people's reputations and really just not thinking about how you're perceived in the world, this podcast is called I said no Gifts, and I was really looking forward to having you here today. I thought, hayley will come by, we'll have a nice chat, we'll catch up, move on. No hurt feelings, no discomfort whatsoever. And so I know emails are sent out about the podcast, or at least I've been told, and I know the. I mean the title, so I was a little surprised. I don't want to say I was irked or annoyed, but I did notice that you brought a gift today.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I did. Do you think you'll be able to forgive me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, time. You know, we have to. We'll just see what happens with time.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They do say time heals all wounds.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. And so it could be years.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It could be.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I may take it to the grave.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, I hope you take what I gave you to the grave.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, I'm going now. Whoever's listening to this, when I'm dead, there's one thing I need to be buried with, and we're about to find out what it is.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It is this. I'm very excited to give it to you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Should I open it here?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Put it here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Hayley Marie Norman]

Two.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Seriously, it's $15 a month.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Three.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Three, no big contracts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Four, I use it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Five, my mom uses it. Are you. Are you playing me off? That's what's happening, right? Okay, give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Payment of $45 for 3 month plan, $15 per month equivalent required.

[Bridger Weiniger]

New customer offer first 3 months only.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

The bag is listener. If you're not watching the video, which is on YouTube, don't forget this is the best bag we've ever gotten on the podcast.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Really?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's gorgeous.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I feel like it matches your vibe because it's like islandy. You're giving me island vibes with that shirt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's my deep tan. Now. This is. I want to move here into this bag. It's the most beautiful watercolor island experience and the tissue is almost like whipped cream.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Don't be more mad. But there is a card in there. Oh, will you read the card? I doubt. Wait, you just.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that was the card.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, that wasn't the card. But the way I just throw the.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Whole bag at the spot. Okay, let's find the card.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Let's see here. Don't tell me it fell out in my white.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It may have. I'm not looking at this.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait, is there. No. Oh, there we go.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't want to see this yet.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No. Don't you see that?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very honest person. Okay. Oh, and a gorgeous postcard. Where did you get this? Where did you get any of this?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

This is distasteful. Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. It says, hey, Bridger, I really hope you can forgive me for bringing a gift. We've been over that. It's just when I saw this, I thought of you and exclaimed, bridger needs this. It has your name all over it. I hope you love it and that it doesn't end up in a landfill. Well, it's going to be in my grave, in my coffin, or burned with me. I do want to be burned.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Me, too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And in the postage, it says, I said, yes, gifts. This is really. And then signed by. Ha. This is really lovely. I mean, I'm not forgiving you. Okay, let's get in here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay. I just want to say this is brand new. The top is only open because there was two of these things in there, and I took out one so we could be matching. So I have mine here, too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Okay. Very exciting. Okay, so I have. Let's see. Oh, my God. It's a premium scalp massager by the brand usaga. USAGA sounds like a publishing company where you, like, give them your name and information and they write a novel about you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

An idea is podcast. That's what this is. So there we go. You saga. Okay. Wow. Let me look at this thing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, the bottom. Go from the bottom.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, bottom. It's in a. Almost a Toblerone style box.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes, it's. It is a nice box, too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, this looks incredible.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Isn't that going to be.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I. This is a dream come true.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You like it right now?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, this has happened on Earth. I'm already massaging my scalp. I've never had one of these before.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, that makes me so happy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, and you've got. They put two of these in here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. Because I thought, you know what, we can scalp her. I was thinking, you know, we could scrunch together. But then I put my. I forgot that I had my elbows on the other side of there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you want me to get it for you?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Can I get up out of frame and get massage?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're not allowed to get off out of the seat? No, of course you can.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I'll massage my scalp while you're doing it. Listener. This feels amazing. It's. I don't know if you've ever seen a massage. Scalp massage. It's, you know, it's like one of the ones that looks like a whisk. Like a good double in the kitchen as well.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Ooh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you. I bake.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's incredible. You know, a lot of self massagers.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Don'T work and they're so annoying because you. You're hurting your muscles trying to massage another part of your body.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is just like pure relaxation.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Are you a TV watcher? Like, can you see yourself watching tv?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Absolutely. I just finished Hunting Wives. This would have been perfect.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, can I just tell you something fucked up?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, of course.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I auditioned for the Hunting Wives.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And you'll never believe. Guess what role I auditioned for.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's see. I'm trying to remember any of their names. Who's the mom? Who. No, that's not you. Maybe. What's her name? Chloe.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Main character Chloe?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I wish. No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They called me in four. At the time. Her name was just Wanda. Wanda. And then it became Detective Salazar. And it's like the woman with the least likely role that you should ever call me in for. And oh, my God, you would have.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Been like any of the Hunting Wives. You would bring that fun energy that the Hunting Wives needed.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, but they were only calling in black people for. And the least fun roles. The least fun roles. And the character's name was just Wanda at the time. Now they're like Detective Salazar, but her name was just Wanda. And. And there's only one black Wanda, and it's Wanda Sykes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But Wanda is a name that as an actor, you get called in all the times for. There's two names.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Fascinating.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Three names. Shayla, Wanda and Olivia. If they wanna, like, pretend to be more woke.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So all my black friends and I were like, why are we getting all these Wanda auditions? And suddenly. And for Wanda, Detective Salazar, they wanted you to, like, have this limp. And they were saying that you needed to. Half of her hair was shaved. Her hair was all fucked up because she had just gotten out of the hospital or something. And I'm like, black women. We're not gonna walk around with fucked up hair. No black woman is getting out of the hospital. And if half of your hair is shaved, you're getting a wig.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. That would be the first step for truly anybody.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

For anybody.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And also, the character didn't end up having that.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

The character didn't end up having that. And I'm a cutie patootie. Why am I not one of the hunting wives that's getting naked and showing my titties?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. And shooting a pig in the woods.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And shooting a pig in the woods.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's crazy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Detective Solitary.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Also, the. Why did she have a. Like, I had nothing. I mean, okay. It's not like the show is the top quality. I'm, like, asking why one thing was wrong with the show. Speaking of wigs.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Ooh. It didn't bother me that much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, I think it contributed.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think. You know what? That's a great point. I think it contributed to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There are some on Malin Ackerman, some hares that are just doing their own thing, flying all over the place, so distracted.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Is it fucked up for me to say her titties looked really good? Is that, like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I bet she'd appreciate that.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Cause I googled, like, she's got kids or a kid. Like, I just thought she looked really hot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She looks great. She's a beautiful person.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think she showed her boobs in it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like. Did you ever see the Comeback?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Which one is the Comeback?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hailey with Lisa Kudrow.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, of course I saw the Comeback.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was gonna ask you to leave this show.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That would have been really bad. That would have been super embarrass.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like she shows her boobs in that too.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

See, I don't even know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think she's very comfortable with her body.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think this is my early onset dementia, because I don't remember her in the Comeback.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, she's fantastic. And she plays this character, Juna, who's like the. In the first Comeback, you know, they shoot, like, the multicam sitcom, and she's like the young hot girl in it, but she's so sweet and wonderful.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Mainly that's a boarding room or something. What's it called?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Room and board. Room and Borg. So now you've proven. Because you could have been lying up until this point. You could have just been saying, yeah, I saw.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, they're making a new comeback.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know that. I'm so excited. But it's always risky.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Maybe I'll get an audition for a Wanda in it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's so Crazy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm the last Wanda. Remember when Periscope used to be a thing?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Oh, I was never on Periscope.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's kind of the opposite of how I want to communicate with anyone.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. In a live fashion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Live. And kind of just, you know, you would just get them, right?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, yeah. You would just get them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I need warning.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I was always going live on Periscope, but I had shorter hair at the time. And there was a couple people that would, come on, say that I looked like Wanda's. Oh, what? Because I had short hair and Wanda is so cute. But you know what? I didn't.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very different people.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I think I need. I need to talk to my therapist about all these micro.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The Wanda curse.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

The Wanda curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I'm glad you're calling this out, though. Interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, yeah. Listeners don't call any black woman Wanda unless it's Wanda Sykes. Because we're gonna feel some type of way about it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you finish the.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

The Hunting Wives? Oh, of course. Probably in less than a day. I'm also in my TV area. All I want to do is watch tv.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That is so much TV to watch.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's so much TV to watch. And I used to feel guilty about watching tv. Not anymore.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What else are you going to be doing? I.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Working on myself? No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, so it's your career.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's really what I've been saying lately.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're doing homework.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I am doing homework. And I feel like I have gotten way better at what I do since I've been watching till.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I imagine you learned a lot from Hunting Wives.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Absolutely. It was so wild.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wild show.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Even my mom, who's very conservative, admitted to watching it yesterday and said that she really liked it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And you know who told me to watch it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Alison Brie. Oh, I just shot a Macy's campaign with her last week.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, she's fantastic.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

She's fantastic. She was really great to work with. And she said, you gotta watch Hunting Wives.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You both could play Hunting Wives. They should bring you in for season two. But do you know what the problem is now? I think season two, they're going to be self aware and it's gonna ruin it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, it was made in a vacuum and no one knew what was going on. And that's why it was so special. And now it's gonna come back and they'll probably have too much money.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They'll probably. Yeah. What do you think the budget was for this one?

[Bridger Weiniger]

$400.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I do. I wanna come in season two. I wanna be a really scandalous character.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You should. You should come in as a scandalous cop, scandalous detective.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. I want to be fucking everybody who.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Doesn'T have a limp but has a strut. I think that that's your character again, the limp. Let's be honest, I was barely paying attention to what was. You know, I was half on my phone, but it was like, just to make the character interesting. Was that the point? I don't. I don't know, just fresh out of the hospital thing I don't think ever happened.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Speaking about being on your phone, apparently Netflix has this whole second screen thing. Have you heard about this? So when they're dealing with their execs and showrunners or whatever, apparently one of the notes that they give all the time is, is it second screen enough? Meaning will people still be able to clock what's going on with the show while they're on their second screen phone? Because we're all on our phones.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That is such a dark thing to hear.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So dark. I feel like I'm productive now when I watch a movie or TV show because we're all so scrolling so much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

If I complete a movie, I say, oh, my God, I'm.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels like reading the longest novel of all time.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's infinite. J. Yeah. Truly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I just finished a movie that's over 90 minutes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look at me go.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, wait. Oh, I thought you were really. Well, you did. You saw Jaws.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I saw Jaws in a theater. That's the trick.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's impressive.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have to be in a theater to. Otherwise I'll at least pause the movie once.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, I pause all the time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've got. If I can sit through an entire movie at home without pausing something. My limbs have been broken.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, you're dead.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I'm like. I'm literally handcuffed to the couch or something, which I do think is a good idea for a chair. You sit down and. And then you press a button and it locks you in for the length of whatever you're watching. And now let's say the house catches fire. Oh, yeah, Something would need. Maybe it has a smoke detector on it so it can let you go. Oh, my God. I probably would buy that product. Something that just forces you to sit still.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know why I wouldn't. Because I'm really weird about peeing. Oh, yeah. I drink a lot of water. I'm very. I'm a very hydrated person.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, there should be a toilet in it. Problem solved. Or a doctor.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That Would be a dream come true. I need to know that I can pee at any time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm kind of in the same camp.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Really?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You're a peer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm a peer and I'm very serious about it. And I have to pee often.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Me too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I drink a ton of liquid.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. You look hydrated.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank you. You do too.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're glowing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We are glowing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're glowing. We're dewy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, last year I made a big prediction that public urination would be big this year. And it turns out it's true.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I love peeing in public.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think everyone should be allowed to pee in public.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Absolutely. I would rather. Okay. You know, like when you're on a road trip or something. I would 100% rather pee in public than go into some janky ass gas station.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's much cleaner.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's much cleaner. That's the squat. And I think I've perfected the squat. You just have to do, like, the right squat and you have to position perfectly so that you don't get any pee on your shoes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. See this? For women, that's tricky.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It is tricky. I've been unsuccessful a few times.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I guess I'm speaking from. From a privileged place of it being very easy to pee in public.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I think everyone should be allowed to. All of our pets are doing it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

All of our pets are doing it everywhere.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who's harmed when I'm peeing in public?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. How come you can't just pee on someone's yard?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You're in Burbank. We're in Burbank. Just go pee on someone's yard. 500 million dogs have peed right there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. My pee is of better liquids.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I would think so. I would absolutely think so.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I see nothing wrong with it. It's not a health concern. It's not a hazard.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I guess it's a smell concern.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It may be a smell concern. And people. Maybe people would. I think you should get like a little voucher. You should get to do it like.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Twice a year and only. And then we should all have wristbands where it's like we're okay seeing someone pee in front of you because I guess that's a consent thing too, right? Yes, I would definitely give consent. Cause I want to see penises peeing. I think it's hot, honestly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're in the city today.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm in the city to do it. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You can see anything in Los Angeles.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You can. When I'm dating someone at a Certain point, I go, can I see you pee?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is that true?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. I get into. I'm like, I want to see someone pee. I. I think it's sexy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How has that gone for you? Has it worked?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Pretty good. Although the guy I was most recently dating was very excited to see him pee. And then when I saw him pee, I thought, okay, that was a little unremarkable.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you break up with him?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, yeah, but not because of that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it contributed.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It contributed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was. It was part of the puzzle.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

As we were together longer, I liked watching him pee more and more. I did. I loved him. I did. I did enjoy being. Watching him pee more.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a very mature level of being in a relationship, being able to see somebody use the bathroom.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. But I would never do the other one. I don't even want to say it now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What if. What about him asking to see you pee?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, no, I'm into that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Okay. So it's fair. Watch me pee. Okay. Interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Not wipe. That's too personal.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Oh, God.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's disgusting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, do what you want to do. Everybody has their thing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You can see me sitting on the chair and you can hear some liquid coming out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's where it stops, right?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think one step beyond that. Yeah. It's. Get out of here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. Do you pee in front of your partner?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Husband?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

What?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you have boyfriend?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Boyfriend. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. Do not pee in front of each other.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have never asked.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So you would pee in public, but not in front of your boyfriend?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Exactly.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

What's this about?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a great question. And I guess it's. Let's see. I guess it's that I don't care about the greater population. I guess everyone else could just. I don't care how they feel about me, and I don't care about them, but I care about my boyfriend.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay. Oh, that's true love.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think. I guess that's it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's really true love.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. But, yeah, I would. My dog has recently learned to open doors, and she's, you know, coming in when I'm peeing, and I'm like, bonnie, you've gotta.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You need to leave my cat. I have got. I've got four rescue animals, which I know sounds unhinged.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I think that's lovely.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you. Two of my dogs are seniors. They're 13. One just started chemo, but he's gonna be okay. He's okay. The other one, I. Okay. My dogs have cardiologists, oncologists. And what are the Heart doctors called cardiologists. Oh, yeah. Cardiologist, oncologist, ophthalmologist.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. Even the eyes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Even the eyes. I just got cataract surgery for one of my dogs. My other dog is now on. He just had to have half his pancreas removed. And he's. But they. Everything but. Okay. So I have also have two rescue cats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And my one orange cat, Sticky, likes to come and sit on my lap while I pee.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Only when you're peeing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, no, He. He always sits on my lap.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There's something about true pervert.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes, there's something. He thinks he's like protecting me or something. But, like, he will come jump on my lap when I'm peeing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's very cute.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It is very sweet because I. I pee in the middle of the night and so he'll come and he comes in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

In. Oh, that's really lovely. How, how old were your dogs when you got them?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They were only 8 weeks old, so I've had them for all 13 years. I got them at the pound on the day they were going to be put down. I drove all the way to Lancaster.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's so sweet. Are they big or small?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Small.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I guess when. If they're 13, they've got to be small dogs. Oh, that's really.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I want them to. People are like warning me that they're gonna die soon, but I don't think that they are. But people are like, well, this is like you're in denial. But I'm like, no, I think I have at least three years with a little dog.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think you really can get, you know, 15, 16 years old.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, they can. And the light is still on in their eyes. And they're best friends, so they still play. Oh, my God. I just had to get so Bowie, the littlest one who's got bad back legs.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is he on the wheels?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I tried to get him on the wheels. He was not doing it. And he would never do any sort of like shoes or socks. I've tried those for a long time, but now his got really bad, so I got grippy socks. And he's very smart and he knows that now he has to wear the socks so he doesn't try to take them off. And his legs are doing better.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's so sick.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Cause he's not slipping and sliding.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Are they like Chihuahuas?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, one is. Iggy is a chihuahua, but he's the one. He's like 15 pounds, so he's like a teeny tiny Chihuahua. He's Chihuahua and miniature pinscher. And the other one is a Yorkie from a backyard breeder. And apparently the breeder was bust, like busted by the cops.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And that's how he ended up at the.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow, that's so sweet.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And this is a good example of not to, you know, just lecture people, but you can get almost any type of dog at a rescue.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

My friend Jackie Johnson, who you've had on this pod.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, Jackie was just talking about this.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

She got Gary her new poodle.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Little brown poodle.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

A rescue.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Look, it takes a little time and patience.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you can get. And who cares? Every dog's pretty fantastic.

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[Hayley Marie Norman]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

What?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't think she's gonna listen to this podcast cause she lives in her own world. So I'm gonna say something. It's not like deeply selfish maybe, but. Well, yeah. So she's obsessed with Korea right now. It started with Korean television shows, then she started taking Korean classes. She's like, 60. But she's going to all the BTS stuff.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, that's incredible.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Somehow. So she decided that she was gonna rescue a dog from Korea.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So she.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just because it's Korea.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Just because it's Korea, she wanted a Korean dog only, so she rescued a dog from Korea. She had that dog for several years. The dog died, okay? So then she was like, I can only have another dog from Korea. So she just got another dog from Korea. She had to pay someone from Korea to fly the dog here. She had to put that. And at that point, I go, it's not even a rescue because there's so many emissions. Oh, my God. Like this. You've actually done worse for the environment.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You've created a huge issue just so.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That you could get some white maltipoo with crusty eyes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You could have rescued, like, 50 dogs.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

50 dogs.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Found homes for them.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And she only gets rescue Korean dogs. But she also has cats. But she spends $10,000 each on her cats, people.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And again, everyone, do whatever you want to do. If we all have to just enjoy our lives. But when someone doesn't rescue a cat, I. When you go out of your way to buy a cat. I'm sorry, $10,000. Just get a lovely little cat. From a rescue or from your front door. Yes. They're literally everywhere.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They're free.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Take one.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

They're free.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're all over the place. Yeah. When somebody is very specific about getting a certain. I guess there are allergy things. But again, you can find the Hypoallergenic [e-mail] Absolutely anywhere. Yeah. The cat thing to me is like, what are you doing?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Both of my cats are rescues. And. Oh, my God. I just got a tattoo of one of my cats right here. You can see how gorgeous she is.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's happening?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Spirit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, lovely.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait, you know how I. Oh, my God. Okay, wait. Another one of your guests. Patrick.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Patrick. Who created Patrick Arnold. Patrick.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, but I know Patrick Walsh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We love Patrick Walsh.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So I guest starred on his show Living Biblically.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, of course.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right the day. This is a wild story. This is a wild story.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Buckle up, everybody.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Buckle the fuck up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Buckle up. Patrick.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Patrick. He could be. Do you think he's listening to this?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I bet he'll definitely listen to this one.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. We should tell him. I'm gonna tag him.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's talk about how horrible of a person he is.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That motherfuck. Okay, so I was not a huge cat person. Right. Separately, I book a guest star on Living Biblically. The show Patrick Walsh. Created and show ran. The night before my very first day, I had a dream that I rescued a cat. And it was a very specific cat with very specific coloring and a collar that was purple with pink flowers.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Right.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And you know how usually you forget your dream and if you remember it, you forget it by 10:00am or something? Well, my first day, our rehearsal was. I didn't. My call time wasn't till 1pm or something, maybe 2.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So even later in the afternoon, I'm going, I cannot shake this dream about rescuing a cat. And I thought I was allergic to cats. It was just like, I can't stop thinking about this dream. I saw clear vision of the cat. I go to my rehearsal for Living Biblically. I decide that I want to watch the rehearsal for the scenes that I'm not in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sure.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Some. A prop guy is sitting on his lap, and there's a kitten on it. And I go over and I'm like, oh, my God, can I pet this kitten? And as I'm petting the kitten, I'm like, oh, I love her. And I'm like, oh, this. She kind of looks familiar. And then I go, you know, this cat looks just like this cat that I had in my dream last night, except she had a purple collar with pink flowers on it, and they lift up her fur, and it was the exact color from my dream.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. So I'm going. I'm a. So the prop person later told me that they wanted to bring in the cat the day before, but something told them not to. And she would've gotten scooped up because she's gorgeous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Right.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Something told her to bring the cat that day. So I had to act chill because I was just a guest star. And Cameron Manheim, like, all these people were, like, obsessed with this cat. So I was like, I can't be rude and be the guest star.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It goes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm sorry to be the person to be like, I had a dream about this cat and I need to take it home.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, word got around. Word got around. And so Cameron Manheim, a couple other people, they were like, this is your cat. Oh, my God. So I want. Part of the reason why her name is Spirit is because I wanted. I almost named her CBS since I was on this, but I wanted a name that sounded like something living biblically related.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And it had visited you in a dream like a spirit would.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's amazing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is Patrick aware of this Spirit?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't think Patrick's aware of this. That's why we have to tag him.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why? Wow. I think he has a cat. He's a cat person.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

He is a cat person. That's a good sign.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. It's always a good sign.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

When someone's really against a cat. What are you. Huh?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

What's wrong?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where's this opinion coming from?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Everyone thinks they're allergic to cats, but they're not really.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, I don't want to deny anyone's experience, but I'm happy to deny my boyfriend's.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Your boyfriend says that he's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm allergic to cats.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, you're not.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

This is a major problem.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a thing. Where. Where is that coming from? Is it. Do they think. Because I'm sure some people are maybe.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Once they had a thing or. It's coming. I know people that have been like, I have had to have inhalers because of cats. My grandpa was a pediatric allergy person. And I know I can't be around cats. And then they come over to my house and they're like, totally fine, and the cats are jumping on them. I'm like, we've all convinced our. I started this story by going, I thought I was allergic to cats. Right. We've all convinced ourselves we're allergic to cats.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Former allergic to cat person. No. Yeah. A lot of people think that. And I think that there's probably out of everyone that claims that probably 10% of them actually are allergic to cats.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I agree.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then the rest of them sneezed once by coincidence around a cat.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

By coincidence.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Or had a mosquito bite while petting a cat.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know what? I'll give them if you're petting a cat, and then maybe. Maybe you immediately rub your eye or something. But true love is getting the shot so that you're not allergic.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There are things you can do.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

There are things you can do if you're not willing to get a shot for me to be around my cats. If you are one of the 10% that's allergic. Do you even love me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Get the shot.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So have you owned a cat before?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have, yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Tell me about him or her.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I had two little boy cats. It's a long. And a lot of it has to be told off record because there's kind of a wild person involved. And it became a wild situation. But they were two very sweet little cats named Mark and Dan. And then we had to move across country. Then it became this whole thing. But we found a new home for them.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I wish I could tell the story on the podcast, but it involves Someone posting something online and then someone else becoming very upset about it and. And getting in a fight with my boyfriend. The whole thing is. And if I told you the names involved this, you'd be like, what is going on?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Famous people.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But famous people are unhinged. Like some famous. They're not.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, right. I think being famous frequently mutates your brain.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know, they say that the age that you become really famous at is the age you stop maturing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's very apparent. If you watch certain people on TV and then look at their career history, you're like, oh, that's why they're still behaving like that at 50 years.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like, oh, you were 21. Okay.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I intend to be very famous. So what? So the benefit of the fact that it hasn't happened yet is, well, great. I get to have it all. I get to be mature.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. You should be allowed to be famous until you're 45.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, I'm ready to be famous now, so I'm going to change the age on that a bit little. I'm ready to be famous. By the time this podcast comes out, I want to be number one on IMDb.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, how about, let's say 30?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, perfect.

[Bridger Weiniger]

30 feels.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I would give it. Well, at 30, your prefrontal cortex has had five years of firmness. Okay. I would say maybe 34.

[Bridger Weiniger]

34 feels like the right age for someone to get attention. Any attention at all.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Any attention before that, you're fucked.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You should be in a little. Held in a little cell until you're 34 and then released and people can pay attention to you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Otherwise you become a monster person.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I went out the other day, was walking through the sunset, like the clubs in, like, whatever. Clubs, bars, wine bars, whatever. On sunset in, like, Silver Lake, Echo park area. These Gen Z motherfuckers are smoking this again.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm like, what is going on? The way that don't smoke was hammered into my brain through elementary school.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

At the.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And just with the facts, everyone is smoking.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I saw something somebody had posted about this on Instagram the other day, and some Gen Z people got in and basically were just saying, well, everything is ruined. Why not kill ourselves?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I kind of get that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I was like, that is a hard one to argue against. Okay, you got me.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I was talking to my Pilates instructor the other day who said that once he realized his dog was gonna die, he started giving the dog all the food that it wanted. Cause he was like, it's gonna die. So I see Gen Z sort of taking that attitude. They're like, things are so bad about also, but I just don't feel good when I smoke. Well.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And also, like, they're definitely. We're all gonna be around until a natural lifespan is over. The Earth isn't gonna end in the next. Well, knock on wood.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Next 20 to 70 years. So you're still gonna end up with.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Lung cancer, but I think humans could be done by then. I think the earth or ocean stuff will be there. I don't think we're long. I don't.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wanna hear your hard prediction on when humans are doing done. Let's all put it in our calendars.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I would say humans are done in 10 to 15 years. That's why I don't understand why people are having babies now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've got to stop saving my money. Got to go on some vacations.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No. One of the guys who, like, was an integral part of making AI said that he stopped saving for retirement because we're all going to be so fucked before then. I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, no, wait.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I have a question. Speaking of cigarettes, I would listen to your Robbie Hoffman podcast because I. Because I love her.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Robbie's fantastic.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Is this the cigarette she brought you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is not. That one is at home. Robbie autographed that cigarette.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, that's so cool. I saw her a couple weeks ago at 200 South La Brea, which is a very pop. It's like one of the main commercial casting offices here in la.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah, of course. I know this one. It's right by the Ralphs where a rat ran across my foot.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, a rat ran across your foot?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah. Very traumatic time in my life.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I love all rodents and critters, but a rat would scare me because if they bit me, you're basically dead.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You might as well just throw yourself in front of a car.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You might. I would freak. And I pet squirrels, but I would be freaked out if a rat bit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Me right across my foot. Oof.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, my God. Were you wearing sandals?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. Thank God, no.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Could you imagine?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was barefoot.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You were very good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But you saw Robbie at 200 South.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. And it was very curious to me. I wonder if maybe Robbie's listening to this because I'm a major fan of hers. I think she's so cool. I loved her episode of the podcast.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's unbelievable.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

She's absolutely unbelievable. And when I saw her at 200 south, when she walked by, I was like, hey, I like your work. But I said, it kind of low, and she walked by fast, so she didn't hear. But I'm wondering. I was like, this was after she was nominated for an Emmy. And I'm like, was she auditioning for a commercial? Cause every once in a while, you see people auditioning for commercials that you're like, you're too famous to be in a commercial, but, like, you all doing it. So I'm like, was Robbie Hoffman there auditioning for a commercial? I really want to know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She may have been.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Robbie, if you're listening to this, did you book? Please find. Yeah. Did you book it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you book it? I adore Robbie. And it's funny. Robbie was on the podcast, like, right before she really hit.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I think a lot of listeners were, like, a few steps behind what Robbie does.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right, right, right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was like, just be patient. Robbie's the best, and you'll understand exactly what's going on.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I loved all her takes on cars. I loved all of it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's so funny.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But she's giving Gen Z smoking. But she says she doesn't smoke all the time. She. She said that on the podcast.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But what does that mean?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like smoking at all is probably dangerous.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I smoked a little bit in my 20s.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

But that was like. I don't know. I thought I was being, like, emo and cool or something. Like, I don't know what the I was doing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I've never smoked. Never smoked.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Don't start. It's gross.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. There's no appeal.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I know someone who relapsed on hard drugs, and it started with one cigarette.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, no. The worst possible.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I know. He said that it made him feel dizzy and, like, it gave him that high feeling that he had missed after years of being sober. So he relapsed on hard drugs after one cigarette.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And so many sober people smoke.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, Very interesting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Gotta be careful with the cigarettes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You gotta be careful with the cigarettes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, is there anything else we should say about this wonderful gift? Oh, my God. I mean, it feels phenomenal.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just want to know that you're gonna use it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, absolutely. While watching tv. This is the perfect thing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You know what? Oh, I was gonna say maybe because I have another one at home. I was gonna say, maybe I could give you mine so you use a boyfriend. But then I was like, that might be weird, because now it's, like, touching my scalp.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, he and I will share this one.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You guys will share this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We'll fight over this one.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

When I was Thinking about things to get you. I almost was, like, gonna get you a labubu, but then I was like, I don't know. That's kind of, like, already phased out a little bit. And by the time this airs, does anyone care? Right then, I was gonna get you a lefufu, but they're $30.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look right behind you. Oh, there's a lefoufu.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank God I didn't get you a lefufu. Oh, my God.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I've gotten the boo boos.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, thank God I didn't get you that. Oh, my God.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank God I've got them all.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Something popped in my head. I closed my eyes. I was like, let me meditate for this in a second. And I said, head scratcher. And I knew in that moment that it was the right choice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is a. You know, with this podcast, so many of the gifts are absolutely things I should burn. Totally useless in my life. This is actually something that's going to improve the situation. I'm thrilled about it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That makes me so happy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I think we should play a game.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Ooh, let's play a game.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. We're playing a game called gift or a curse. But I need a number between one and 10 from you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Seven.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces, so right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, well, I just had a short film that I wrote, directed, and star in be chosen as a Vimeo staff pick. So it premiered on Vimeo Vimeo on Friday, September 5th. So you guys go to Vimeo staff picks, watch my film. It's called the Errand. You'll get to see why I'm ready to be number one on IMDb by next Monday. And, yeah, I shot six national commercials this year. And, you know, no one ever promotes commercials. Like, who cares? But I'm like, I'm literally on a roll. I booked six national commercials.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You are keeping one agency afloat.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm keeping one agency afloat. So I'm just saying keep your eyes peeled for me, honey, because you know where I'm gonna pop up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Was there a favorite commercial you were in?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, okay, you don't have to. Later. Next week, I'm about to shoot a commercial for Geico with the gecko.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you know who has a. Well, I don't want to embarrass her too much, but had an enormous crush on the gecko is my niece. She fell in love with the gecko.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So cute. The gecko is a hottie.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. What's his name.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

He definitely pees outside.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. He does not have a toy.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

He does not have a toilet. Wait, the Geico Gecko has an actual name? Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let me see. Geico. I. Let's see.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Martin.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Martin. Yep.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, that's hot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

My niece was obsessed with this guy. Yeah, she would have married him had she been given the chance. Yeah, this was at age 20.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, well, that's surprising.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think she was, like, probably 4 or 5 when she fell in love with Martin the Gecko.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, I hope she doesn't come for me that I'm gonna be working with him.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You'll have to be in touch if you get any Gecko Merchant. You might have to send some my way. Send to my niece. Although I think she may have outgrown.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I've worked with some huge people. Will Smith, Chris Rock, Dennis Hopper. Huge people. They have nothing on that gecko compared to the Geico Gecko. Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, well, everyone look out for the Geico commercial. But more importantly, watch the short on Vimeo.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, that's a big thing for it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

To be a short of the day.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It is. No Vimeo staff pick. It's like the most.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. That's top level.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It played at Palm Springs. It's great. I just finished my. Yeah, I'm also in my directing era. I'm in a lot of eras right now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And making a short is not an easy thing to do.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It's not an easy thing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you did every element of it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I did every element of it, including paying for the whole thing myself. Cause I'm not one of these crowdfunding motherfuckers.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's hard to ask money to crowdfund a short because they are on money.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Everyone does it. Everyone does it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

My friend and I considered doing that. We even shot a thing. I was like, I simply can't ask people to pay for my short. Maybe a movie.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Maybe a movie. But I know rich people that are crowdfunding.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Kickstarter has got to look at bank statements. I'm sorry, but if you have a certain amount of money in the bank, you should not be allowed.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You should not be allowed. I'm actually glad that you didn't Kickstart that thing, because, Jackie Johnson, we shit talk people who start Kickstarters for things that we don't think are good. So I'm really glad you didn't do.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That, because we would say, but it was too ambitious.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We would go. Bridger's got a successful podcast. He's got all these gifts. He could sell those Gifts. Why is he asking? Why is it now my problem to pay for his editor?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was. We went too far with the script, quite frankly.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Ooh. So it was an expensive one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was too expensive.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

How many locations?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Four. Five. Driving.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I had driving in mine. Oh, I had a lot of driving in mind. It ain't cheap. We had to take the hood off my car. But it was a lot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it's a lot. This was about the owners of Supercuts franchise going to the International Haircutters Ball and Expo.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, So I would donate to hair.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's very violent.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

See, I would definitely donate to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is why it needed to be made, but the money just simply isn't there.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We gotta find you that money.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, this is how we play. Gift or curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers and you can lose, so be careful. This first one is from a listener named Kev. Gift or a curse? Right turn, green arrow.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, I don't want that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Because I want left turn, green arrow. First of all, I'm gonna turn right when it says, no turn on red. Anyway. No right turn on red. So don't give me a fucking green arrow. That's weird. I don't know. I just don't like it. It's, like, unnatural.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So you're saying curse?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm saying a cur. Does that exist?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It does exist.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I'm sorry, what? Hold on. You're trying to tell me that out here in these mean streets of Los Angeles, there's a green arrow that tells you if you could turn right and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have experienced one, you're just not aware of it?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't like it. I want either a no turn on red that I don't listen to, or I want just a regular green, and I go with the flow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So curse.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

A curse. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Correct.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is a curse, unfortunately. And you're kind of really illustrating why it's such a curse. I think the technology is too advance for human beings. Anyone that sees one of those is just like, I don't know what to do with myself. Because you're already used to being able to kind of turn on a red light. Suddenly you're being given. It feels like too much power, where you're like, I already kind of understand the rules of this. Why am I allowed to. I should be able to go at a green or stop at A red and go. And this feels like this weird other realm of turning that makes no sense. It's such the opposite of the left green arrow, which empowers you and gives you. You're the king of the road for a few minutes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I feel so safe on a left green arrow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, you feel fantastic.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you're really given a power, especially if you're at the front of the line. You're like, I'm going to charge us all through the intersection.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

We've got three times.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. Wait, so if there is a left right, does that mean. Oh, no, sorry. If there is a right green, does that mean you can only turn when the green arrow. Like, does a right arrow also just do a regular green?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I know. So that's where it gets confusing, because some of them can be a no turn at the right, but some of them can be a turn at the red. It's. There's too many. There are just too many possibilities.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No. And as we establish I'm Cher in my clueless right wingler era, I can. You know, we're lucky. I parallel.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're a danger to everyone already. So they're a curse. You got that?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. Okay, good, good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, number two. This is from an unknown listener. Unmarked grave. I'm apologizing to them. Gift or a curse? Sharing food family style while out.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, I love it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Because I'm always that person that's like, no, I don't want French fries. But I. But when I say I don't want French fries, I know that I want at least four of your french fries. And as long as people wash their hands, like, I hate being out to dinner, and I know that someone didn't wash their hands beforehand. So if we're, like, family style, I need to know that everyone's hands are clean. But if I can trust it, everyone's hands are clean, then I want a little bit of what everyone's having, because I already want a little bit of what everyone's having, even if it's not family style.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've got a lot of questions here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How do you know who's washed your hands and who hasn't?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Cause I get.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Are you waving a wand over them? Black light.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. Well, you know, I just came from a relationship with kids, so I was very, very on to who's washing their hands and who's not. So now I've got a little PTSD about, you know, clean hands. But I just remember going, my friend and I walked our dogs to A restaurant. And so my first thing when I got there was like, oh, will you hold my dog? Cause I'm gonna go wash my hands now. Cause we're eating sushi. Then I came back, and she just. And then she's just sitting there, and I couldn't eat. Cause I was thinking to myself, we both just walked our dogs here, bitch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, I know what's on your hands.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I know what's on your hands. So I very passively, aggressively just kept be like, I'll hold Trixie while you go wash your hand until she got the hat.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think in that situation, you should just say, go wash your hands.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Go wash your.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, Deal with it. So you're saying gift.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

What was the question again?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sharing food, family style.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, gift. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wrong curse. Oh, what a stressful situation. This creates nonstop stress for everyone at the table.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Why?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Because no one ever gets everything they want.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, the only time this ever really works is with Chinese food.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Otherwise, you know, you're like. You're trying to be polite, so you're not taking as much as you want.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, I'm not polite?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, and so you're part of the problem, because someone at the Helsing table is saying, oh, look, Haley's taking more than I took.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I reach across the table.

[Bridger Weiniger]

See? It's too chaotic.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everyone needs their own plate that they can look at and say, this is my plate, and I could share a little bit of it. Yeah, but if a bunch of items are ordered, then we're passing it around, and it's, no. No, thank you. That's wrong.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. Yeah. You hate eating with me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Keep family style at home.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

When I eat, I. I make a lot of crumbs. I. I spill.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I'm an absolute disaster.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, you are. Oh, so you can't wear your vintage Subaru shirt while you're eating then, because I've gotten stained by my vintage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm a risk taker.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, me too. It's like I care about everything and nothing at all.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But yeah, it's a curse. I. Absolutely. I just. I don't feel comfortable with it. I walk away not having as of the item I wanted, and I'm now mad at people at the table.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, you're too nice. Get what you want. Go get yours.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I order it. I deserve it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, you guys could order a second plate of it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm worth a second plate.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. I'm really an asshole, because if I'm obsessed with guacamole. And so if we go anywhere and there's guacamole. I know I take more than my fair share, but I can't help it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, yeah, I guess people have just got to take as much as they want, and if they need more, they order more. But I don't want to have to order more. I want to order one plate that.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Might be on you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Nothing is ever on me. Moving on. All right, this is from a listener named Courtney.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Gift or a curse? When you're struggling to decide between entrees. Oh, another food related one. Gift or a curse? When you're struggling to decide between entrees and the waiter says they're out of one, so the decision is made for you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't think I like that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Because. Because I didn't get to make the decision because they're out of one. I'm also coming at this from kind of a skewed angle because I'm vegan.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

So I can't even already have the entire menu, which might. Might also be why I feel entitled to the stuff that is vegan. I think I have a little bit of, like, maybe what's available. That's vegan entitlement.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that. That I'm on. I support you in that, actually. Anyone who has a particular need that should get more of that item.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Should get more of that item. Absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That only makes sense because everyone else will be eating more of everything.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And tangent. I don't like when people make vegan jokes or make fun of vegans or make fun of the Valley or people who live in the Valley, because I.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Feel like those are very dated, hacky bullshit. Give me a break.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I've, you know, I've, like, matched with people on dating apps, you know, years ago or whatever, who they really think that a great opening joke is like, oh, when I used to live in Studio City, like, make a Valley joke, and I'm like, I'm unmatching it real immediately. Studio City is amazing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it's fantastic. They've got a Marshalls, They've got a Michaels. Those are in the same building?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. Oh, my God. And another shop with a bar method. I grew up going. Going to that exact building that you're talking about. And I one time tried to dine and dash, and that's where I tried to. There was a sushi restaurant in there, and all you can eat sushi burger. Oh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What were the consequences?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, we just went back in bathe.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. That's a historic building for you, then.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's a historic building. And it's the only time I've ever tried to dine and die.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that would terrify me.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And I just did it for this story.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I would absolutely trip on my way out. I'm not a dine and dasher. I can't risk it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh my God, no. If I order Postmates and they give me the wrong order, sometimes I'll feel so emotional because I was so looking forward to it that I'll wanna cry. I'll cry. So if I really want something on a menu and they're out of it, I'm like, why did I even come here?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, Haley, Haley, what's the answer?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Am I wrong again?

[Bridger Weiniger]

The answer, unfortunately, is gift. It's an absolute gift.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh. Because it takes the decision away from you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It really for, you know, for me and I. And for everyone. I'll speak for everyone. It's such a refreshing feeling to just say, well, now it's out of my hands.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The universe has decided this was the item today.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I get to have the item.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Now if the one. If there's only one item on the menu and it's out.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Now we're getting to tear territory.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, I go to a restaurant kind of knowing what I want already. Do you do that?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. Am I not on the website for an hour before?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, you're going to that restaurant for that item. You're excited and then that's robbed of.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You rarely do I show up. It has to be a place I regularly go to if I'm going to not have something in mind.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It has to. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If it's like the first time I'm going somewhere, there's an item I want on the menu.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Right. Yeah. Cuz you're looking at it before. What about your favorite item at Clark Shake Diner?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have several Cob salad, chicken enchiladas, club chicken fingers.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think those are the four go tos for me.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I love a club sandwich. They make really good vegan ones. So I'm still in my club sandwich.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Club sandwich is a winner almost every time. If you make a bad club sandwich, full shutdown of the restaurant. Oh, honey, it's a very. It has a lot of great ingredients. It should be easy to make.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

It should be so easy to make.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I can't remember how many points you got here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I won.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You won.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Victory. I've done better than any other guest ever.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You've kind of. You get a trophy, you get a cash prize. Okay, I think we should move on to the final segment of the podcast, we're gonna answer a listener question. People are writing in to I saidnogiftsmail.com or they're sending a voice note which has to be 60 seconds long. It has to be in a quiet area. Yes, those are the two qualifications. Listener, just so you know.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Wait, can I ask you a question? I'm so, so. I'm so full. I need to know. How do you feel about voice memo when a friend sends you instead of a text, they send you a voice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Fully depends on the friend and how long it is. Again, the friend. Do you know who's are very good. If I ever get a voice note from Patrick Walsh, it's like winning the lottery every time. They're unbelievably entertaining. They're to the point, but sometimes they're long. But they're worth it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He sends me. Every time I get one from him, I'm laughing. And it's not just like joking around. It's usually a good story or a piece of relevant information. How do you feel about them?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Well, I'm pro, very pro, very pro. I'm always sending a voice memo and I've gotten pretty egregious with it because when first voice memos first became a thing, it was like maybe keep it to 30 seconds to a minute. To a minute. Well, one of my friends, my friend Mecca, she started sending me 10 minute long voice shows multiple ones. It was insane. So then that ruined my barometer for it where now I'm sending very long voice memos. Sometimes some I could even someone else is even talking to me. I'm still recording. And then I'm like, hold on a second, hold on. I'm ordering at the drive through. Give me one second. Blah, blah. They have to hear my order and then I come back. But there's, you know, I have a very dynamic life. There's a lot happening on. It can't all be conveyed through text. So I'm sending voice memos. They've gotten too long. I send them to Jackie Johnson all the time. I feel bad.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I bet those are good exchanges though.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes. Sometimes I think she just probably reads the transcript.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sometimes with some friends I do that. I'm like, this isn't going to be fun to listen to. It's going to be a waste of my time.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What are you trying to tell me?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, the transcript is, is a gift and a curse, actually. It really is because it's not always going to be accurate. I'm just like to hear my tone.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have to decipher what's going on.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, yeah. But you know who loves voice memos?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Black people.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. I realize it's really a black thing. We have embraced it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why do you think that?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I don't know. Maybe we love to talk. I don't know. Black people will send you a long ass voice memo and feel no shame.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. Interesting.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. Every once in a while, something will come out that black people, we just collectively and subconsciously decide this is for us. And I feel like voice memos is one of those things.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And me, I am so unbelievably scared of sending one. Ooh. I will be very careful about sending one because I don't want to waste anyone's time.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, see, you know, you gotta take up your space. You gotta eat all the food at the table.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everybody wants to be a podcaster.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, yeah. That's what they are. They all are. Yeah. Yeah. My boyfriend would. Well, I don't know. Boyfriend, ex, boy, whatever. This person in my life, he, he. He would be like, well, you're just like, if I was frustrated about something, he'd be like, okay, now you're just sending me a podcast. Like, how am I supposed to respond to this? And I was like, in another voice, not supposed to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just listen to me for once complain.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

For three minutes about the dishes in the sink.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think the rule is be entertaining.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Entertaining, yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If you're a bore, don't send one of those.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Don't send one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, no, no.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Don't yawn in it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't want to hear you. If you're yawning, delete and start over. Be a professional.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Ridiculous. Have some production value. All right, let's answer a question here. This is hello, Bridger and illustrious guest.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Very nice compliment.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I am a huge fan of your show. Oh, now this person's really going all out. I am a huge fan of your show. I am from the east coast, but I was in LA recently. Oh, I remember this email. But I was in LA recently moving my child into college for the first time. I can't believe this happened. But as I was driving through the city, I happened to see you and a friend walking on the sidewalk. I briefly considered rolling down my window and calling out, hello, Bridger, I love your show. You are the best. But I did not. I guess my question is, should I have done that? Would this have been a curse for you or a gift? Thanks in advance. And that's from Janine.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Really good question.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very scary question. Janine. Janine.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

What do you wish happened?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, God, that's a great question. Oh, Janine, I wish you had pulled over, given me some money.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Why is Janine letting her go to school in la?

[Bridger Weiniger]

First of all, this student must be going to usc. This place is a future filmmaker. We've got a future filmmaker.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

LA is only downhill from here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Not true.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Pick your kid up. Oh, wait, no, I forgot. I'm very pro la. We're gonna start shooting stuff here again. Thank you very. Love Los Angeles.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Love Los Angeles. I guess as a. As an LA native, you get to do whatever you want, but as a transplant, I get to say this is. I've seen worse.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. Yeah. See, I haven't seen worse. I grew up in Sherman Oaks.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Janine, that's a great question. Should Janine have bothered me?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Janine. I would have loved to hear from you. Janine, I'm hurt. Oh, Janine should have, you know, yell some sort of hurtful thing out the window as you drive by. Blast your horn. Upset my day.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Add some texture to my day.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

How to be recognized. Would you want someone yelling at you, honey? 100%. I love attention. I can't wait to be really, really famous. I love compliments. What do I love more than a compliment? I love to be recognized. Even before my screening the other day, the waiter at the very end came up and gave me and my friend that I was with, who just happened to be my dp, free shots and was like, I just want to, you know, let you know. I saw your short in the festival series.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's amazing.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I loved it. The one you wrote, directed and started, blah, blah, here's for your things. And I said, you know, I made it, like, here. I'm talking about it on a podcast later. I love compliments, especially when they're genuine. And a lot of times they are.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Even when they're not. Who cares?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah. I love.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You get to talk with them, what you love.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I love attention. And I love feeling famous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. So, Janine, if you see either of us on the road, you're blasting the horn, you're yelling, yelling. You look gorgeous today. I love your pants.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love the show. I love your work.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

That's what I want. I want to love your work.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. I love your work.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I just had that happen on an audition the other day. Me and this girl were both auditioning for a show. She came out, and I could hear the cast director giving her a compliment. And I'm girl power. I'm actor power. I'M all of it. And I was like, girl, sounds like you crushed it. Congrats. And she was like, thank you. That was fun. Then she was like, by the way, I know your work. I'm such a fan. Blah, blah, blah, you know? And I was like, oh, my gosh, that's so nice. Then I went into the audition and I told the casting director. I was like, I've met so many cool people in your office here. Like, there's always great people auditioning for your shows. And then she told me who that girl was, and that girl's like a big actor. Oh, you're kidding.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Was she playing a mind game? Was that her mind game?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, it felt genuine. I feel like bitches. Mind games.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're able to float above mind games.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, honey. Yeah. You don't grow up in Los Angeles and you're affected by mind games. No, I'm bigger and better than a mind game, honey. I don't play them, and I won't let you play them on me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't know why you would have to develop that skill in Los Angeles. Everyone I've met has been very honest and hardworking. Oh, what a life we lead. Well, Janine, you missed your big opportunity. So now you have have to, like, you've got to track me down via PI and stalk me.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And now. Now it becomes dangerous.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Now you're not going to be able to afford to send your child to their second year at usc.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're going to be in jail.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Oh, I was going to say they're giving all their money to a PI.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, yeah, first that, then jail. And so Janine isn't even going to be there for college graduation.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Janine fucked up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Big time. Because she had an opportunity to, you know, use a healthy communication.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And she didn't do it.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

And she didn't do it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Janine, Janine, Janine. Waste of time and money. Well, we answered the question perfectly. I have my gorgeous hair. Scalp or scalp? Premium scalp scalp massager. Yes. Hair, scalp. I'm so thrilled about this.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay, good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I've had such a wonderful time with you.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Can I tell you, this is the highlight of my day. And not just because I'm only starting my day, but I'm thinking it's going to get better.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I. I promise.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

No, I'm gonna be carrying this with me for a while. This was. I genuinely had a really good time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I did, too.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

You did?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, absolutely. Otherwise, we would have ended about 45 minutes.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

I know. I was asking. Am I talking? I feel like I talked a lot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I felt like I. I'm in charge here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'll let you know when you've talked too much.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Okay. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank you for being here.

[Hayley Marie Norman]

Thank you so much for having me and listener.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The podcast is. I'm slamming on the brakes. We're, you know, all just moving on with our days and I support you in whatever you do next, as long as it's not, well, even if it is illegal. I love you. Goodbye. I Said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Annelise Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy man. And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must just follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

[Hayley Marie Norman]

When I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no. Guess your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me? Foreign.

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[Hayley Marie Norman]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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