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When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no gifts. Your presence is presents enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?
Bridger Weiniger
Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm bridger weiniger. It's 11am I've already been to the Burbank Walmart. It was a fine, you know, unsettling. And not at the same time. The customer service was excellent. They had a giant skeleton in the shape of a saber toothed tiger. Which I feel like is a confused message for Halloween. I don't know what we're talking about when we have it. That's a museum piece. That's not Halloween. I don't think that's gonna take off like the other skeleton has. But who am I to say? I didn't know the skeleton would take off. Why was I at Walmart? I had to return something. It was my birthday last week and someone got me the wrong thing. So now it's a whole journey. But oh, I should talk about found coffee. I haven't talked about found coffee in a long time. It's in Eagle Rock, California. They do not sponsor the podcast. What I'm doing here is I'm secretly building up a bill for them. Eventually, we're gonna slam them with an advertising bill, and then they'll be out of business. But in the meantime, you should go. I love found coffee. The other. Well, speaking of Halloween, look at me go. This is because I've had about 500 milligrams of caffeine already. But on the way from found coffee, I noticed that our local car wash is now doing a haunted car wash. I don't know what goes on in a haunted car wash, and I don't want to know. But that's a new option. Everyone wants to get in on the Halloween game. I don't know why. It's bigger than Christmas at this point. I think you don't get a Christmas car wash. It's not a bad idea. Bellagio car wash. Reach out. What else is going on? Oh, the other thing. I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with Peter Thiel and the Antichrist. I don't know if. I almost don't want you to Google this because this could ruin your algorithm. Do you say Antichrist or Antichrist? Neither sounds right to me. But Peter Thiel is waging war on the Antichrist, and that's all I really know. But thank you, Peter. Okay, well. Oh, Patreon. Of course. We've gotta mention patreon. Patreon.com I saidno gifts. The amount of material there, I mean, it's a treasure trove. Bonus episodes of the show. Also episodes of me ranting about the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and then Secret lives of Mormon Wives and then who knows what else. I watched a little bit of Sister Wives last night and season 20. Things are not going well for the polygamists. Come to Patreon. Support the podcast. Okay, I've. I mean, this has been 30 minutes. It's time to get into the podcast. Everyone loves today's guest. He's fantastic. It's Jacob Wysocki. Jacob, welcome to I said no ghost. Hello. I'm sorry.
Jacob Wysocki
Hello.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I brought a lot of information here.
Jacob Wysocki
There's a rule in podcasting. You can't talk till you're intro'd. I follow the rules.
Bridger Weiniger
You did very well.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm a consumer of the media. I understand how it works.
Bridger Weiniger
Occasionally, the guest pops in.
Jacob Wysocki
I almost did.
Bridger Weiniger
I would have welcomed it.
Jacob Wysocki
That Burbank, Walmart's fucking nuts.
Bridger Weiniger
It is the grayest space I've ever been in.
Jacob Wysocki
Gray is a great way to describe it. It is liminal in that it is so far away from being in Los Angeles, California, yet it is here.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. It really feels like, oh, now I'm in another. I. I have just gone to another realm.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Have you been to like, more rural Walmart?
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I grew up in Utah, so I've been to, I would say almost any type of Walmart you can imagine. And I've been to them at every time of day when I go visit my parents. Sometimes I'll just go wander around the Walmart late at night just for the experience.
Jacob Wysocki
Walmart is crystal clear.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. The weirdest thing to see is a full family at Walmart at that time of day.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. What? Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
It's like maybe vampires. I don't know what's happening.
Jacob Wysocki
It's good that we're all out.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah, I'm glad.
Jacob Wysocki
It's good that they're all out together. That's nice. You love to see a family in arms.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah, of course, of course.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
This Walmart. And I'll also say it's in a parking lot with an Ulta and a Sephora. You've the tension there between these two makeup stores.
Jacob Wysocki
They're constantly fighting.
Bridger Weiniger
Constantly fighting. Who allowed that to happen? You can't have both.
Jacob Wysocki
No. And how do you choose as a consumer?
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, of course. That's right.
Jacob Wysocki
You just go where there's parking. Oh, there's a spot at Ulta pulling in.
Bridger Weiniger
I guess there's also a target within walking distance of this Walmart.
Jacob Wysocki
I mean, that's. We're talk. You're talking about the beauty of Burbank at this point.
Bridger Weiniger
There's room for everyone in Burbank. There's also kind of a religious workout center over here.
Jacob Wysocki
Tell me more.
Bridger Weiniger
I wish I could.
Jacob Wysocki
How religious? Like God religious?
Bridger Weiniger
Deeply Christian gym. Why did I call a gym a workout center?
Jacob Wysocki
It's not wrong. You weren't wrong. Don't be mean to yourself. You weren't wrong.
Bridger Weiniger
My English classes are coming along well. They have a Christian gym.
Jacob Wysocki
Great.
Bridger Weiniger
This is a new phenomenon which I don't understand.
Jacob Wysocki
It's the race for the third space.
Bridger Weiniger
That mythical third space. What is it?
Jacob Wysocki
They need it. They need it. And then we also gotta get Christ in the mix.
Bridger Weiniger
People love going to the gym and church. How do we combine those two things?
Jacob Wysocki
I don't know. I guess it's a two for one do.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
A spiritual body practice.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You go there on Sundays. Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
Once a week gym.
Bridger Weiniger
Once a week gym. They're. Now we're finding some appeal for people. This is all starting to add up.
Jacob Wysocki
It's good marketing at this point. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But then the music, it's probably Christian rock.
Jacob Wysocki
Not fun.
Bridger Weiniger
No one likes it. Even the people who say they like it.
Jacob Wysocki
Even the people who make it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. They're like, well, I'd rather be doing something else.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I'm just getting my bag.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, of course, of course. How are you doing?
Jacob Wysocki
I'm good, man. I'm good. Beautiful. Burbank, California, you know, nice early morning pod. It's great because you don't have to do anything before this.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And I technically don't have to do anything after this.
Bridger Weiniger
It really.
Jacob Wysocki
I did something.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a dangerous thing to do a podcast early in the morning.
Jacob Wysocki
I know. It's kind of nice. I also have tripled up on caffeine in a way that I normally don't.
Bridger Weiniger
What sort of caffeine were you consuming?
Jacob Wysocki
So I've moved away from liquid caffeine as a regular. And I take a caffeine pill with my vitamins in the morning. Why? I just think it just kind of gets in the system in a way that's a little better.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
And I don't feel like I crash and it doesn't get me, like. Cause sometimes you overshoot and then you're.
Bridger Weiniger
Just, like, buzzing every single. My hands will be shaking at some point. Just wait. Keep an eye on my body.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm locked in. Yeah, I'm locked in.
Bridger Weiniger
Tremors.
Jacob Wysocki
I'll ring a bell when you start to sh. But, yeah, it's nice. And then sometimes you don't have to take it. If I want a slow morning. It's not like you get hooked in the same way I think you do with coffee and the ritual of brewing your coffee or making your espresso or whatever. So on the weekends, if I want to be lazy, I just don't take my caffeine pill.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
And I can just kind of lumber around.
Bridger Weiniger
See, for me, it's not about feeling lazy. It's about feeling, like, wanting to be awake at all.
Jacob Wysocki
Sure.
Bridger Weiniger
When I wake up, I'm just. I mean, the most miserable person you could possibly encounter. Just not a good.
Jacob Wysocki
Sort of a grumbly bear situation.
Bridger Weiniger
I would go beyond that.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Just. I would say hateful.
Jacob Wysocki
Sure. Spite.
Bridger Weiniger
There's a lot of spite.
Jacob Wysocki
There's darkness in me in the morning.
Bridger Weiniger
So until I've had some level of caffeine, it's just I can't. You can't be around me.
Jacob Wysocki
Now, what happens if you don't get the juice?
Bridger Weiniger
If I don't get the juice? I mean, I.
Jacob Wysocki
It's a wash.
Bridger Weiniger
There was a huge part of my life that I wasn't getting the juice in the morning, and it was just like, well, what's wrong with me? Well, it's because I don't have the normal brain chemistry of other people.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Then you get into this, and you're like, oh, now I get a lovely beverage in the morning. And then about an hour after waking up, I can communicate with other people.
Jacob Wysocki
Great.
Bridger Weiniger
And at that point, I can start doing my. What's the game that I play? Connections.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't know what this is.
Bridger Weiniger
You don't know Connections.
Jacob Wysocki
It's a word game.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, it's like a word game kind of in the same vein as Wordle.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I think it's better than Wordle.
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, hey, fucking shots fired.
Bridger Weiniger
You heard me. Wordle is just a guessing game. It's just, you know, a slot machine, essentially.
Jacob Wysocki
Isn't there Strat? There's Strat.
Bridger Weiniger
Barely.
Jacob Wysocki
There's Strat.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, there's.
Jacob Wysocki
They're always talking. There's a little Strat because it's like, S is more than T or whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
But people talk about strategy with a slot machine.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And there's. It's like, no.
Jacob Wysocki
You ever have a friend who figured out roulette?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Jacob Wysocki
And they're like, I just. I figured out the system. It's the system. And then they go and they're like, well, there's actually just some error with my system.
Bridger Weiniger
It's like, well, I gave you my money because you were so confident.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And now I'm realizing, oh, this is still purely chance.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And you're delusional. Do you gamble at all?
Jacob Wysocki
I do. I like. I like a controlled gambling situation where I'm going in with $100.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
And then I will leave.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And that either means I'm going to sit and slow play and see if I can accumulate, or sometimes I just go for, like, the one big dopamine, and I go, like, straight to roulette. Put it on black and just, like, hope. And I, like, channel my psychic power.
Bridger Weiniger
It's like running an errand. Just pop in.
Jacob Wysocki
I love, like, a road trip where there's, like, a little dinky casino.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, sure, sure.
Jacob Wysocki
Like, I'd rather stop there for, like, my little, like, stretch and break situation. And then, like, play 20 in a.
Bridger Weiniger
Slot, inhale some cigarette smoke.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes, yes. I used to smoke cigs. I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. So it is like, a cheat.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah, of course.
Jacob Wysocki
It's a bit of a cheat.
Bridger Weiniger
That actually is. It's always shocking to find people smoking in a casino. I mean, like, it's wicked to be indulge. Truly wicked.
Jacob Wysocki
It's the last frontier.
Bridger Weiniger
It really is. It feels like. I can't believe they haven't banned this yet.
Jacob Wysocki
Please keep it.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I think it's part of the charm.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Some places, I think, are, like, moving away from it in the year of our Lord 2025. But I'm like, you're not a true casino.
Bridger Weiniger
No, no, no.
Jacob Wysocki
If you don't reek, and if they.
Bridger Weiniger
Want Gen Z, they need to keep the cigarettes.
Jacob Wysocki
Well, the Gen Z, they're smoking Stokes.
Bridger Weiniger
They love a cig.
Jacob Wysocki
They're going for cigs. They're kind of like they're getting off the baa Ba.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
Just fucking blast a cig.
Bridger Weiniger
They're the same thing.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I would argue maybe worse. Probably because we don't know.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. We don't know what the science is.
Jacob Wysocki
You're also ripping it in your house now.
Bridger Weiniger
And a cigarette's kind of a. More of a leather jacket, for sure. You're not on. You're not vaping off like a. You're not sitting on a motorcycle vaping.
Jacob Wysocki
I hope not.
Bridger Weiniger
No. You're not on your Harley. You're not at a slot machine with a vape.
Jacob Wysocki
No. No. If you are, you're losing.
Bridger Weiniger
You're losing the secret to slot machines. Gotta have a genuine tobacco.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
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Bridger Weiniger
Back to the Walmart. Just briefly, when was the last time you were in there?
Jacob Wysocki
I was actually there pretty recently.
Bridger Weiniger
For what reason?
Jacob Wysocki
I needed, like, three international food items that they tend to carry.
Bridger Weiniger
Such as?
Jacob Wysocki
I needed gochujang, a fermented bean paste, like a Korean bean paste. I needed jerk chicken seasoning that they have there. They have like a wagwan. I forget what it's called, but it's like a jarred. And what was the other thing? I think like a mirin, like rice wine vinegar.
Bridger Weiniger
This feels like you were creating a chopped basket.
Jacob Wysocki
It was one meal, and then I just like, I need a jerk chicken for the pantry.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? I need my jerk pantry staple.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow, you make a lot of jerk chicken.
Jacob Wysocki
I used to work in a Jamaican food truck.
Bridger Weiniger
Really?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, as a chef. I cook. I cook. Yeah. I mean, like, on a food truck, everybody kind of does everything right. It's kind of like just all hands on deck. So, yeah, I was cooking, I was prepping, I was cutting, I was frying. And I was also the token white. Sure, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
How did you end up in this truck? I feel like, unless you own, like. Did you submit an application to the truck?
Jacob Wysocki
It was kind of like a family friend. My mom was really close with this guy named Dylan who they used to work together, and he had a side business of a Jamaican food truck. He's from Belize. He's Belizean and cooks really, really good Caribbean food with his family. And during the pandemic, shit was tough. There was no job, and I was looking for work. And he was kind enough to, like, that's incredible. Come work on the truck.
Bridger Weiniger
And had you cooked much before this?
Jacob Wysocki
My first job was like, a dishwasher, food prep.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
Like, way, like, in my.
Bridger Weiniger
What was the restaurant?
Jacob Wysocki
It wasn't a restaurant.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
It was called Delightful Dinners.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I like this.
Jacob Wysocki
And it was essentially like, hellofresh. But before this was a crazy concept, and I wonder how it would do today, but it was like a bunch of wine moms would show up and they'd drink wine, and we had these stations that would be a complete meal. And all of the stuff was pre measured. So it was like chicken tortilla soup. And this scoop is the perfect measurement for the amount of bouillon you need. And this scoop is the perfect for the amount of green peppers you need. And you'd construct a meal to take home and freeze, to pull out to cook fresh home ingredient meals.
Bridger Weiniger
And what sort of space was this taking place in?
Jacob Wysocki
It was in, like, a commercial kitchen space. Yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And it did.
Jacob Wysocki
Well, no, it lasted like a year and a half, two years, something like that.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah.
Jacob Wysocki
It feels like it was very ahead of itself.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And obviously those things are very popular now where it's like, I want fresh ingredients sent to my house so I can cook and we can bring the family back to the table.
Bridger Weiniger
Of course. That's what's wrong with America today.
Jacob Wysocki
We're not eating together at the table.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, but this one would send you. Allow you to drive home drunk.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
These women would get hammered. They would just get tanked. And my boss was very, very Christian guy. And I always thought it was this interesting moral crossover because he would make us pray before work. And I had to lie about being religious.
Bridger Weiniger
Whoa.
Jacob Wysocki
To get the job. I was like, yeah, totally, man.
Bridger Weiniger
That's really weird.
Jacob Wysocki
And every shift he'd be like, I don't know, maybe doing his little shit. But then he'd also allow people to just get absolutely incinerated.
Bridger Weiniger
He's probably running this gym now, maybe.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder. I'd pay 550 bucks to see what that guy's up to. And no penny more.
Bridger Weiniger
I like the extra $50.
Jacob Wysocki
A little walking around money.
Bridger Weiniger
I worked as my first job as a dishwasher. Well, yeah. At both Shlotsky's Deli and Gecko's Mexican Grill.
Jacob Wysocki
Ooh.
Bridger Weiniger
Rip to both of those.
Jacob Wysocki
What was the grossest thing that you had to regularly wash?
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's a great question. I later worked at a bakery where we also had to wash things and you had to wash out. They would cook full turkeys in, like, a tin and, like, scraping essentially turkey off of the thing into hot water. Nightmare. What about you?
Jacob Wysocki
I think like sour cream.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
Cause it curdles under the heat.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, why was it under the heat?
Jacob Wysocki
The heat of the water. Oh, wow.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Because it curdles. That Quickly.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Cause you're washing with hot water for sanitation reasons.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. It's a scalding hot water.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, exactly. And so you'd be washing out the cabro a vat of sour cream, because the wine moms need it for their Greco Roman fiesta chicken or whatever. And you'd wash it, and it would just, like, curdle, and then the smell would waft. Yeah. There's a couple things that really I can no longer enjoy because I just. For two years.
Bridger Weiniger
You can't eat sour cream.
Jacob Wysocki
No, I'm out.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm fully out.
Bridger Weiniger
People have very strong opinions about sour cream, even when they're not cleaning it.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't get it. Even before the clean, it's like, okay, cool. I guess I'll eat some bad milk. But it cools my burrito down, so I'm winning.
Bridger Weiniger
It adds some tang.
Jacob Wysocki
Are you pro sour cream?
Bridger Weiniger
I wouldn't say pro is a strong food. You fucking shit.
Jacob Wysocki
You fucking love it.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm with the sour Cream Council, okay? And everyone, you should start your morning with a bowl. That's all I'm saying.
Jacob Wysocki
You're on the propaganda train, man. I smell it on you.
Bridger Weiniger
Get a spoon. Get a straw. Get into your sour cream. No, I don't mind it.
Jacob Wysocki
Neutral. A neutral party.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. When I find it in a burrito, I'm like, well, they put another ingredient. Ingredient. And thank God, bang for your buck. Yeah, bang for your buck. I would prefer guacamole in the place of that. How do you feel about creme fraiche?
Jacob Wysocki
I'm just kind of not on the crema. The creme. The cream.
Bridger Weiniger
You won't do it.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't even really do mayo.
Bridger Weiniger
Really?
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Mayo's another category.
Jacob Wysocki
I'll hit an aioli. Maybe.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting maybe. Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And that's just, I guess, good marketing.
Bridger Weiniger
It is, because it is mayo.
Jacob Wysocki
It's the same.
Bridger Weiniger
It is. With some sort of flavor, essentially.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. You put a little garlic or a little stank in there or something. Right.
Bridger Weiniger
No mayonnaise. I've learned to deal with.
Jacob Wysocki
I can, like, be a big boy.
Bridger Weiniger
And just be like, okay, fine, I'm gonna eat it.
Jacob Wysocki
I'll try. But I don't get it. I don't get what we're getting out of it.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. I guess.
Jacob Wysocki
Compared to, like, a mustard or just the taste of salami.
Bridger Weiniger
The taste of salami.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't need it. More wet, man.
Bridger Weiniger
Some sandwiches, the bread is too dry and you need something there to wet it up.
Jacob Wysocki
And whose fault is that?
Bridger Weiniger
That's you Know, ultimately the baker. And we've gotta go all the way back. It's not even the restaurant, it's the baker.
Jacob Wysocki
I say we blame the farmers, but.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, we should just get back to the grain.
Jacob Wysocki
The dry grain.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Whoever was the person with the scythe, ultimately is to blame for mayonnaise. No, I can eat essentially anything. I had something to eat recently that I wish I could remember what I was. Oh, it was a tuna melt.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
First time eating a tuna melt.
Jacob Wysocki
It was your first time.
Bridger Weiniger
Last time only made it halfway through.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. What did you not like about it?
Bridger Weiniger
It was heavy. It was wet. It was hot. Fish.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
It was so soft.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm right there with you, buddy.
Bridger Weiniger
Have you had one before?
Jacob Wysocki
I have not.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't eat fish.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, you don't eat fish?
Jacob Wysocki
I don't really like fish.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, well then this is gonna be a problem.
Jacob Wysocki
It tastes like drowning to me. It has a. I think I have like a. Maybe a bit of a trauma trigger.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Have you drowned?
Jacob Wysocki
I'm currently not. Currently not. So I grew up in SoCal.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Right.
Jacob Wysocki
We could ride the shitty bus to the beach. And I feel like the culture of being a kid was like, you swim until you almost drown and then you go in and that's when you're done at beautiful experience. And there was a couple times where you're. There's a couple times where you're really like, having fun and you're being a young man and then you get caught in a riptide and you're like, don't know. I honestly don't know about this one.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And then you like, barely. And it's like, that's kind of the same taste as fish. Is that like. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
No. I was in the ocean for the first time in a long time recently, and it's way scarier than I expected if.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, man.
Bridger Weiniger
It's really out of control.
Jacob Wysocki
It's. It's. You have to really respect it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Jacob Wysocki
It's not a lake. It's not a river.
Bridger Weiniger
No.
Jacob Wysocki
It's so different. And you can get tricked. You can be like, oh, it's calm. The waves are only two feet. And then for whatever reason, there's just like a six foot set and you're fucked.
Bridger Weiniger
Horrifying. Do you know Josh Sharp?
Jacob Wysocki
No.
Bridger Weiniger
Comedian Josh. He drowned in Mexico. I guess, like, technically, does when you drown, do you die or is it. He was knocked out and washed up on the shore, basically.
Jacob Wysocki
I think to me that's cause of death.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
Like, drown is full. I think you almost drown.
Bridger Weiniger
Almost drowned.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. To me, drown is dead and even, and we can look that up.
Bridger Weiniger
Jamie, Annalise, what is the final word on drowning?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I would really like to get to the bottom of that. It looks as if.
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Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. That's the final word. Totality. Okay, so he almost drowned, but, like, to the point that, like, some. His brain, I think, essentially kind of shut down for a minute. And to me, that's like, okay, if.
Jacob Wysocki
You cross over, I'll give it to you. If you cross the angel. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Then you have a bestseller on your hand and all kinds of. I mean, your career opens up in a huge way.
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, I wish I could write an angel book. Oh, I know. It'd be good, that book tour.
Bridger Weiniger
Go be reckless in the ocean. Go for it. Are you a beach guy in general?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I'm kind of like, Unfortunately, a classic SoCal guy.
Bridger Weiniger
You have a bit of a beach vibe.
Jacob Wysocki
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
Bridger Weiniger
This is not a bad thing. Thing. It's a good thing.
Jacob Wysocki
I like all versions of going to the beach, but I'm a guy who's like, I'm gonna get there early and I'm gonna stay all day and.
Bridger Weiniger
Are you reading? What are you doing? You're playing in the sand. You're splashing in the water.
Jacob Wysocki
All of it.
IBM Advertiser
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Jacob Wysocki
All of it. You're. I think it's a great way to, like, get away from the phone for, like, an extended period of time. And I think a lot of it is just, like, focusing on kind of, like doing nothing and enjoying just, like, the sounds and the sights and, like, maybe you're with some friends and so you've got, like, some fellowship and. And community, and it's kind of about the nothingness of it. And then you get to fill that nothing with, like, little things. And it's sandcastle time, and it's swim time, and it's like, go for a walk time or nap time.
Bridger Weiniger
You're making this sound way more appealing to me. Cause I just think I'm tired and there's an hour drive home and I want to take a shower.
Jacob Wysocki
So I think that maybe if you thought about it as, like, it's a whole day, it's like Disneyland.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. It's not.
Jacob Wysocki
It's not a three hour thing.
Bridger Weiniger
You pop in and then go home.
Jacob Wysocki
Right. You're going to do the whole thing, right?
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. But it is a lot of sun. You gotta be careful.
Bridger Weiniger
I know. I feel like. Do you tan?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I kind of get A little olive. Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
You're very lucky for me. Not a not.
Jacob Wysocki
You're a little more fair than I.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. So there's a lot of worrying about reapplying the sunscreen and have I got enough on in the first place?
Jacob Wysocki
Look, the tent technology. In the last five years, the tent technology, it's gotten crazy for beach wear.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, what?
Jacob Wysocki
People are just. There's all these, like, things that you can just pop up and all of a sudden you're shaded. And it's like. I would have loved that when I.
Bridger Weiniger
Was a K. Right?
Jacob Wysocki
There's all these, like. And it. The wind. And it just uses the wind to keep up and you're shaded and.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Because the umbrella is not doing anything for anyone.
Jacob Wysocki
So old school at this point. Passe.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I would say a fallacy. The umbrella fallacy.
Jacob Wysocki
It's a logical fallacy. You gotta get one of these sun. These sun umbrella. I don't even know what they're called. The tech's amazing.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I know what parking lot to go to. The rei, Walmart, Target, Ulta, Sephora parking lot, Best Buy.
Jacob Wysocki
Mm. They got it all.
Bridger Weiniger
They've got it all.
Jacob Wysocki
They got a Wendy's, and then you can go get it out back.
Bridger Weiniger
Steakhouse.
Jacob Wysocki
Give me a bloomin. Let's get a bloomin after this. Let's cut the pod now and go get a bloomin.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, as much as I'd like to keep talking about that parking lot, I feel like there's something else we should. It's not. I don't want to talk about it. I didn't even want to bring it up, to be honest, but, you know, I thought Jacob's wonderful friend of a friend of friends. I think a lot of people can vouch for this guy. He'll come on the podcast, we'll have a nice time and then move on with our days. Maybe split a bloomin. The podcast is called I said no gifts. So I was a little. I was surprised when you showed up today holding this gorgeous gift in this stunning kind of magenta pink sparkling bag.
Jacob Wysocki
Can't show up empty handed.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, that's.
Jacob Wysocki
That would be rude. We're new friends.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, well, if we're friends, I'm always looking for new friends.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I can't enter a new friend situation empty handed. They'd be so rude.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, well, that's a perfectly good excuse. Should I open it here on the podcast?
Jacob Wysocki
I would be honored if you opened it. Okay, let's get into it and just have fun.
Ed Helms
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Bridger Weiniger
And hi, I'm Kal Penn and we're.
Jacob Wysocki
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Bridger Weiniger
I can see you as Mr. Darcy.
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Bridger Weiniger
The front of this has got a nice tactile.
Jacob Wysocki
There's a feel to it. I don't know if you might take some glitter away with you.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, yeah.
Jacob Wysocki
Let's see.
Bridger Weiniger
Not yet.
Jacob Wysocki
That's almost the same ASMR for that. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Very nice. Okay, let's reach in here. Pulling out. Okay, now we've got a lot of tissue.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay, it's in that. Okay. It's in the baggie. I did sort of a classic small gift.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God, this is so small.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I did sort of a classic small gift in a big bag.
Bridger Weiniger
It's okay. And we've got the tissue. Okay. Now we can get rid of this. And also there's. Let's not forget a paper clip.
Jacob Wysocki
That's also part of it.
Bridger Weiniger
This is part of the gift. It's just a little something. What's in this bag?
Jacob Wysocki
I brought you two tabs of really good acid and a mushroom.
Bridger Weiniger
Incredible. Wow.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you grow your own mushrooms?
Jacob Wysocki
I don't.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. I don't.
Jacob Wysocki
But I Got a nice mushroom guy. I just go to this kind of weird warehouse that changes locations throughout the city. What you get like a. He kind of like there's a guy and he like is like, we're on 16th street today. And you go and there's a warehouse and they pat you down and there's a bunch of people selling mushrooms and weed.
Bridger Weiniger
And does it feel illegal? How illegal is this drug trade? That's my question. Because it's so harmless.
Jacob Wysocki
I mean, if it was just weed, I would say that it's gray market, which is the term where it's like semi legal. Where I think they're probably growing it legally. They have the paperwork to grow legally.
Bridger Weiniger
They just have the business license.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Or they're not selling it in a brick and mortar in a way that you normally would, or they're not following regulations of like packaging and testing and stuff like that.
Bridger Weiniger
Sounds like selling milk.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, but it's. It's like selling raw milk.
Bridger Weiniger
Raw milk.
Jacob Wysocki
But as soon as you put like the mushrooms and stuff into the equation, I do think it becomes black market. Significantly more black market.
Bridger Weiniger
Wild.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
How did you find out about this particular business?
Jacob Wysocki
So it's an interesting little set of situation. Like I stopped buying weed from clinics.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
Because it's like bad. I think it's bad.
Bridger Weiniger
In what way you feel like it's bad weed?
Jacob Wysocki
I think it's bad weed. I think it's like too expensive. I think it's like overtaxed. It's like not really thinking about the growers. It's turning into this like big sort of like it's just another capitalistic Marlboro sort of space. And all the weed's kind of old and it all has to get sent off and it has to get tested and you can't smell it. And like back in the day you'd go to a clinic and you'd like open a jar and be like, this seems nice for me.
Bridger Weiniger
Almost like on the prairie. You would go to the apothecary or something.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I ran into some guy at a punk show who was like, he had like a little setup at the punk show.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
He had like a couple jars and he was like selling pre rolled joints and stuff like that. So I got his information and he sold me like weed and mushrooms for like a year. And then ominously, he came over one day and he was like, hey, I just want to let you know, like, I'm getting out of the game. Like I'm not going to be selling drugs anymore. Like, I'm going to go back to being an air conditioner tech. I think it's a better move for me.
Bridger Weiniger
That's his passion.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. And I was like, okay. Yeah. Like, thanks for everything, man. Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
How polite.
Jacob Wysocki
Over the year, we had, like, you know, he'd come to the house and we'd have a chat and ask him about his life, and we had a nice little rapport, and I'd see him at a punk show every now and then. But then he did something really weird. Not weird. He did something interesting that he left behind, like, a piece of paper.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I love where everybody said that.
Jacob Wysocki
Had an Instagram handle on it.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
And he didn't say anything. And I, like, followed that handle. And it was to one of these accounts that works in this sort of, like, gray market space. And so then essentially what he did was like, connect me with his supplier.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
So he's like, I buy wholesale.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Jacob Wysocki
So I buy a couple pounds.
Bridger Weiniger
Right, Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And then I sell, you know, ounces or whatever to you and your people. So he basically, like, like, connected me to the wholesale.
Bridger Weiniger
What's the Breaking Bad guy's name?
Jacob Wysocki
It's not that big.
Bridger Weiniger
No, it's not.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm not hanging out with two.
Bridger Weiniger
He has an underground lair.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. So. And then I've just, like, gotten to know these people that. It's essentially like a farmer's market. Okay. Where it pops up in these different locations and you can go and smell it like you used to. And there's a lot of different, like, independent growers and stuff like that.
Bridger Weiniger
How's their Instagram? They got good grid. Good stories.
Jacob Wysocki
Nothing on the grid.
Bridger Weiniger
Nothing on the grid.
Jacob Wysocki
Because if you, like, post stuff about weed, it gets taken down. Oh. And it's like one of those things where it's like, often the Instagram does go down and then they have to, like, start over with, like, xx. Give me a break. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And so you just go to random warehouses. When you first followed the Instagram, do you, like, how do you approach. Oh, I know this guy.
Jacob Wysocki
I just. I was. Yeah, I just was like, so and.
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Jacob Wysocki
Like, the name of the guy or his, like, you know, nickname or whatever was like, connect. It was like, I know, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, great, here's the address. Tuesday this time.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And then just kind of like, you know, you go to a farmer's market a couple times, people start to remember you. You just kind of get into the system.
Bridger Weiniger
You're part of the community.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm in the system. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And how often are you going?
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, I like to buy, like, I. I don't like to go a ton, so I kind of like, I'll kind of buy in bulk, right? Buy like an ounce or two and then, you know, maybe go once a month or whatever and get like my. My treats, my medicine.
Bridger Weiniger
And they've got weed, they have mushrooms, they have acid.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Anything else?
Jacob Wysocki
No, no, no.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
That feels like maybe, but, like, I'm not.
Bridger Weiniger
You're not going into the other category?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah. I feel like there's other people. If I had to. There's other people for that.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, they're a little bit more on that, like, holistic, sort of like.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. These things are from.
Jacob Wysocki
Well, the acid is like the push, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
How is acid made in a lab? I mean, I don't know the science. Yeah. I've never really thought about lsd, where it comes from.
Jacob Wysocki
This is from. The acid's separate from the gray market. I got it from a different place.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, a different place.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't even know I got it from. I don't know if I could say where I got it.
Bridger Weiniger
Is it a person or a place?
Jacob Wysocki
It's like. That's the thing. I'm not 100% sure. It's just like, there's a collective called the Sorcerer that I connect with on Telegram.
Bridger Weiniger
I love the Mystique.
Jacob Wysocki
It's very. Yeah, it's interesting.
Bridger Weiniger
America needs to get back to eating at the dinner table and Mystique.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. A little bit of mystery's fun. And like. Like, it's kind of interesting to be like, what warehouse am I going to go get my weed at today? And I go to different parts of town and I like. I'm like, great, I'll get to try a taco shop, like, a little further away. Or like, oh, there's an interesting chili cheese dog stand next to it or whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
And are the people you're dealing with, do they feel like drug dealers or.
Jacob Wysocki
Are they just some do some feel like true. Like, cultivators. They feel like, you know, they're just like, I grow great weed.
Bridger Weiniger
I love.
Jacob Wysocki
And then there are people who are like. Like, I'm here to sell 60 pounds of weed, right. And make my money. And I'm kind of an intense. I have an intense brow.
Bridger Weiniger
How often are you doing mushrooms?
Jacob Wysocki
Not. I like, a micro dose.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, That's.
Jacob Wysocki
It's Saturday night. We might go somewhere where there's, like a little bit of dancing and to just, like, eat a Little guy.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And, like, I can still have a conversation and I'm not gonna get too, like. Like, whoa.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
My legs. What are they?
Bridger Weiniger
Tears are running down my face.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm laughing.
Jacob Wysocki
But a big dose. I probably, like, at this point. I mean, I've done it, like, once you've done the big guys, you kind of. You kind of get it.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure, sure.
Jacob Wysocki
There's like, you know, there's only so many lessons in life.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. There's only so many revelations you can have.
Jacob Wysocki
And not saying I'm opposed to getting anymore, but it's like, I've done it. I've done the, like, big trips. And I think it's more fun to just like, yeah, we're like, at a cabin, so everybody's gonna eat a little bit more than a micro. We're gonna do macro dose and feel a little giggly and like, our tummy will be a little rumbly.
Bridger Weiniger
But have you had any bad trips?
Jacob Wysocki
For sure.
Bridger Weiniger
What's the for sure? Are you open to talking about that?
Jacob Wysocki
Absolutely.
Bridger Weiniger
What's the worst one you've had?
Jacob Wysocki
Top of mind. Cause I was just kind of talking about this. There was like, anytime I've done mushrooms in, like, a large, large group, it's.
Bridger Weiniger
Always a little more challeng anxiety. I mean, there are more random factors.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes. And there's, like, slightly different doses and, like, different needs and, like, different sort of desires and, like, comforts. And everybody's so empathetic in a way that it's like almost the politeness gets in its own way.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, sure.
Jacob Wysocki
After you.
Bridger Weiniger
No, after you. No, after you.
Jacob Wysocki
No, after you. But then nobody's doing anything. I remember we were like, at a cabin in Big Bear. It was like a group of my improv buddies, and it was one of the first trips that I had taken with this group of friends, and we all ate some mushrooms, and somebody was talking about that they had found a recording of what the earth sounded like from space.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, boy.
Jacob Wysocki
It was like a sonic.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, boy. This could go in any direction.
Jacob Wysocki
And we were all seated in front of this, like, big window, like, looking out at the view, seeing the pines and stuff. And music was playing.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure.
Jacob Wysocki
And they, like, had just talked about this, like, earth sound.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And it was playing, and it was not what I expected it to be. It was more melodic.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh.
Jacob Wysocki
And it turns out that it was not what was playing was not the earth sound. But I went like, wait, so this.
Bridger Weiniger
Is Kelly Clarkson or something?
Jacob Wysocki
I was like, wait, so this is Earth? And, like, I became Misunderstood, right in that moment. And they thought I was, like, talking about, like, oh, what you're looking at and that. Like, I think there was like, a perception that I was like, a little further along than everybody. And then they were like, yeah, man, this, like. And everybody was like, laughing, like, yeah, it's Earth, man. Haha. And I was like, trying to communicate, like, no, not what we're looking at. Like, somebody was talking about playing this music that was the same. And I couldn't articulate what was going on. And it was like everybody was just like, laughing and they're having a good chore. We're comedians. We want to make people laugh. But it was making me feel a little nuts, of course. And I couldn't communicate.
Bridger Weiniger
Mildly confused. And now you can't communicate or express yourself in the correct way.
Jacob Wysocki
And everybody's being like. And their faces are like. And so I like, kind of played it. I just, like, muted myself and I, like, got really inside myself and was like, it's fine. You were just misunderstood, and that's fine. And that kind of turned into like, an earworm that burrowed its way, like, through my. My psyche. And I had to go. And I just like. Like, I just left and I didn't tell anybody. And I, like, was gone for like, two and a half hours just like, tripping sack, like, around this weird kind of like, remote Big Bear area. And I'm just like, wandering through these neighborhoods, just being like, does anybody get me? And I remember, like, finding myself, like, in a yard with dogs and being like, this is where I need to be. This is good. And I'm like, in a yard, like somebody's property, like, hanging out with their dogs. And I'm like, going up to trees and hugging. And then, like, I get really sick and I, like, have to go puke, like, in some, like, person's like, you know, neighborhood menace. Yeah, man. And the worst of it is, like, I kind of came back and like, after two hours, like, the trip, the peaking of the trip had subsided and I was feeling a little more regular and I went back to the house and it was all locked. The whole house was locked, and it was quite quiet. And then there was like three Zachs at the party. And I just remember looking at my phone and trying to get to Zach, but it's like, all the way. So I'm going through everybody I've ever interacted with, and I'm just thinking about everybody that's ever been in my life.
Bridger Weiniger
Because I'm looking at everything they've Ever thought about you? Where are they now?
Jacob Wysocki
And then I can't figure it out and I'm overwhelmed and I can't get to Z. And I'm just like, I just gotta call one Zach. So then I'm like, banging on this door, trying to get in. But I scared everybody.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Of course, now they're freaking out.
Jacob Wysocki
I like. And this is like, the type of person I am. Like, I'm kind of like comfort first. Total people pleaser.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure.
Jacob Wysocki
To send alarm to a group of people is like, maybe the darkest place I could accidentally find myself. And I harshed the vibes so much, and I'm just like, God, I'm here. And then, you know, everybody's like.
Bridger Weiniger
Everyone's like, who is out there? Yes.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
And it was like, someone's come to kill us.
Jacob Wysocki
It was this, like, total push and pull of, like. And then finally somebody was like, oh, it's you. Where have you been? And I just was like, I kind of freaked out and I'm here now. And I think they were, like, all playing, like, hide and seek or something.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, no.
Jacob Wysocki
So, like, they were like, in the dark, like, hiding. And then it was like, how did.
Bridger Weiniger
Someone not die during the situation?
Jacob Wysocki
Three people passed away. And that was one of the tough ones. Cause it was like, I think I've had worse trips, but I'm on my own.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And I think it was that, like, interfacing of, like, newer friends and more intimate settings and kind of upsetting them where I was like, I carried it a lot. And what's funny is, I feel like if you asked anybody there, their version of the story was like, I said a funny joke and then I, like, knocked a little too hard on the door later.
Bridger Weiniger
Little did they know.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I was just like.
Bridger Weiniger
Like, this is like a chemical reaction. This is like, what's going on inside an atom. I can't go further. I. I wasn't that great with. They're all bouncing against each other and freaking each other out.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow. The domino effect of that is pretty wild.
Jacob Wysocki
It was a wild time. And it, like, you know, it evened out, right. It balanced itself out. I regained into the house and everything was fine.
Bridger Weiniger
Was it one of those ones where it's like, I'm going to take a little time off of mushrooms and was like, well, everyone has a bad experience.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I think I was probably, like, cool. I'm not gonna probably do that for six months to a year.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? It was enough for the year.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, that was good. I was good on that.
Bridger Weiniger
At Least it wasn't boring.
Jacob Wysocki
It was electric.
Bridger Weiniger
I don't quite know the difference between mushrooms and acid, like, the experience.
Jacob Wysocki
Have you done either?
Bridger Weiniger
I've done mushrooms.
Jacob Wysocki
Cool.
Bridger Weiniger
So just once, though, and it was lovely. And it was like one of these things where I'm like, I don't know if I want to have one of these experiences.
Jacob Wysocki
Sure. Did you get, like, the wavy or was it just everything?
Bridger Weiniger
But I will say it was like, in 2014, when all of the Bill Cosby allegations were starting to come out, and right as it started, the boy.
Jacob Wysocki
You're so sad to lose your boy crying.
Bridger Weiniger
Why? Calling my senator? No, Right as it started to hit, we were in a cabin, and they have, like, books, you know? And I was wandering around the cabin, and truly, as it hit, I found Bill Cosby's book, this giant picture of his face. And it was one of the weirdest experiences looking at Bill Cosby being deeply, deeply tripping on mushrooms. Something I'll never forget.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
His face burned into my brain forever.
Jacob Wysocki
Hello?
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. So that could have really gone in a bad direction.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, for sure. For sure. But it sounds kind of funny.
Bridger Weiniger
It was kind of. I think they. Funny. There's a silliness to it, but, yeah, that's all I've ever done. And it was wonderful, and it was wavy and very visual. I will say I ate some pineapple, and it felt like I was eating gold bars, that kind of thing.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the best way to kind of equate it? I'm going to attempt a new analogy. I feel like mushrooms is a bicycle and acid is an E bike.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
So one's bad, one's much, I think, much more intense. Or it's like. It's a very similar experience. Like, it's a psychedelic. It allows you to kind of, like, look at something, and it can kind of change shape. And I think they're both similar, but it's like acids twice the length.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
I think it can get, like, far more intense visually. Far, far more intense visually. And it's, like, technically a little bit more of, like, an upper. And it can really, like. I think your noggin is, like, really turned on, and you're thinking very fast, and your brain's just like. Unless you're, like, outward, I think, because you can push it out. And then you're like, oh, whoa, the clouds are turning into faces of men.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
And then that's really fun and nice.
Bridger Weiniger
Right?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Whereas mushrooms, it's a little more laid back, a little bit more I think.
Jacob Wysocki
It'S just not as, like, computeristic or like, it's like less Tron, more ferngully.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
There's just like a organicness and like a. Violent isn't the right word, but it is also the right word, you know, because there's a lot of people who, like, the acid's easier for them because there's no tummy. Like, it's not necessarily as emotional. I think it's a little more cerebral and, like, technical in a way where you're.
Bridger Weiniger
It's got to do to your taxes, for example. This is the drug you would want to be on.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I think you're having, like, profound thoughts, but I don't think they're. It's more like the world and, like, the systems and, like, patterns and like, whoa, the leaf. And like, you're. It's not like, I'm good.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm thankful for myself. I don't think it's as emotional.
Bridger Weiniger
Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. And do you remember the first time you did either.
Jacob Wysocki
For sure. First time I tried acid was with, like, a really great friend, Roger of mine. And we were at a. Like, the. Maybe one of the most grimy parties in, like, Chino, California, that I could ever go to. It was just like such a fucking. Just one of those, like, sticky. It's like the house becomes sticky. And we took acid and it was bunk. And we just kind of like, waited for it. Us to get high. And it never really quite quite worked.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You know, so you're just like, what? Why do people do this?
Jacob Wysocki
Why are we. Yeah. And then I didn't try it for years because I was like, oh, it's kind of an omen. Like, maybe I'm not supposed to do this. Yeah, right. First time I did mushrooms was at a. A music festival in Eastern Washington called Sasquatch.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
And it was like. I was in my. I was like 23, and me and my guys fucking road tripped up and. And camped in, like, a cow field and saw all these bands over three days. And the first night, it was really cool. And we were just, like, enjoyed a full day of this festival. First time I'd ever been to a music festival. And we're walking back to camp and I was like, kind of walking alone. And there was just a dude walking the opposite way. So he was, like, kind of headed back towards the venue.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure.
Jacob Wysocki
And he just was like, mushrooms, 25 bucks. Mushrooms, 25 bucks.
Bridger Weiniger
Very peanuts. Hot peanuts.
Jacob Wysocki
Hot peanut. Hot peanut. And I had 25 bucks. That's like literally the amount of couch.
Bridger Weiniger
That I had, whoever has $25, come.
Jacob Wysocki
On, I must have broken that other 20 for a $15 chicken tender or something like that.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that makes sense. In a festival. Yes.
Jacob Wysocki
And I just. It was kind of a no thought situation where I was like, this guy's got him. I'm like, at this sort of like a place where you do.
Bridger Weiniger
That makes perfect sense.
Jacob Wysocki
And me and a buddy split the bag, we split an eighth of mushrooms and just like completely tripped Sack and we're just. It was one of those where I'm just like laid back, staring at the skies, seeing the grid and like seeing it open and being like, there's so much more. And I remember this is very silly and who knows, but I remember seeing like people like angels or like humanoid.
Bridger Weiniger
So you could write the book.
Jacob Wysocki
Maybe, maybe you didn't have to die.
Bridger Weiniger
You were seeing people and angels, but.
Jacob Wysocki
They were like seeing me being like, you're not supposed to see us.
Bridger Weiniger
It was Nancy Reagan's ghost. You aren't supposed to be on drugs right now.
Jacob Wysocki
You're supposed to be here. What are you doing? And that was really funny that all these people were like, beyond the veil, being like, whoa, hey, man, how are you seeing this man? And it was just so fun. Wow, it was so fun. And it was just like, like one of those, like, I'm perfectly young and like, I mean, I'm just experiencing life. And it was really, really cool and transformative. And I always thought mushrooms were going to be like, then I have to fucking get dreads. And like, then all I talk about is how everybody needs to like transform. And it was not that at all. It was just like, I did it, it was great.
Bridger Weiniger
It was like a little ride you get to go on and then you get to continue being yourself.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I, you know, I was like, you guys should try mushrooms. It was pretty fun. But other, I wasn't like proselytizing.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. That personality, yeah, that was a big fear of mine.
Jacob Wysocki
I think that was why I was very apprehensive for a long time. A lot of people, high school, early college, were experimenting with that stuff. And I was like, that kind of like, I don't want to be full hippie.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? That I feel like that should be more of anti drug programs. Just like, you don't want to be annoying.
Jacob Wysocki
You don't want to be like a fucking hippie, right?
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, no one wants to be annoying. I think that would probably be more effective than being like, well, you're gonna have the Best time of your life. And then you'll want to keep doing it. Well, okay. Well, then I don't.
Jacob Wysocki
People aren't gonna think you're chill. That would immediately make me be like, oh, I won't do cocaine.
Bridger Weiniger
Never.
Jacob Wysocki
I won't be chill.
Bridger Weiniger
Did you see any music while you were tripping?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Who did you see?
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, man. I remember seeing Bon Iver.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
Which was very, like, kind of boring to me.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm glad to hear this. I'm not a fan.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, it was kind of boring. And then what was really awesome was my friends loved Bon Iver, and I was like, this kind of sucks. I'm gonna go. And they're like, you can't leave. And I just was like, meet me here. We'll meet here at the end of the night. And I went and saw the lead singer of LCD Sound System did a DJ set.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, fun.
Jacob Wysocki
But he brought a live black choir.
Bridger Weiniger
Whoa.
Jacob Wysocki
And so it was like. Like this. He was playing, like, gospel music.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
Like, EDM gospel music.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Jacob Wysocki
And it was awesome. That sounds in a tent. And it was, like, just, like, dancing. And it was, like, so much more fun.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God.
Jacob Wysocki
Than Bony Ve. Where everybody was just, like, on their blankets falling asleep. Yeah. Yeah. And this was just like. But it was also, like, had that sound. Church.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Like a liveliness.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes, yes. And like, that sort of like, you know, they're, like, commanding energy, and they're, like, harnessing energy in a way that was, like, so fun.
Bridger Weiniger
Were they in, like, choir robes?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, it was like they were on a coral riser, and he was, like, doing his, like, spinning. Doing the dj, and then they would, like, sing the hooks and stuff like that.
Bridger Weiniger
So cool.
Jacob Wysocki
Really cool.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Why is he still not doing that?
Jacob Wysocki
I don't know. And it was, like, one of those things where it's like, I didn't really know who LCD Sound System was at that point in time. It was just like, like, I don't want to missay. His name.
Bridger Weiniger
James Murphy.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. It was just, like, billed as, like, James Murphy DJ set. And I was like, who's this?
Bridger Weiniger
Who's. The Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Can you imagine?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow. That sounds delightful.
Jacob Wysocki
It was really special. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you go to a lot of music festivals?
Jacob Wysocki
Not anymore. Not anymore. I went. We, like, went to that one. Kind of got hooked. And then we went for, like, several years, you know, three or four years. And then it closed. It was, like, no longer.
Bridger Weiniger
What was this one called again?
Jacob Wysocki
Sasquatch.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, Sasquatch. Yeah, right, right. It.
Jacob Wysocki
Like, for whatever reason, they're like, we're not doing it anymore. And then I just kind of stopped and I never went to Coachella.
Bridger Weiniger
Coachella sounds too dusty.
Jacob Wysocki
Too dusty. There was a little one. It still kind of exists in la. I think it was like, fyf. Fuck yeah. Fest. And that would be cool. It'd be like, down at usc, like, kind of like. Like near the Coliseum, right within driving distance. Yeah, that was really fun. Like, stuff like that, I think is great, but I think as like, the older I get, it's like, do I want to stand around for nine hours, see, like, probably like two good acts in a span of 10 acts or.
Bridger Weiniger
Whatever, just under the beating sun?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I'm more like. I go to gigs a lot. I still love going to punk music and going to underground shows and stuff. Like, that's what I like, where I'm like, like two hours, three hours even.
Bridger Weiniger
That's almost too much for me. When I go see a favorite band, I'm like. By the encore, I'm essentially, like, holding the keys in my pocket, being like.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay, are you going to the opener?
Bridger Weiniger
If I like them, if I've heard of them, or if I really like the band and trust their taste.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. See, that's what I like, too. It's like, maybe they're going to put me on and I'll have a new friend for this experience.
Bridger Weiniger
If it's a band that I'm like, should just, you know, 70% liking, like, well, I don't need to waste my time with whatever crap band they've got in front of them. What was the last concert you saw?
Jacob Wysocki
I went and saw this really cool punk band, hardcore punk band out of Olympia, Washington, called Electric Chair.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh.
Jacob Wysocki
And they're just like. The lead singer is just like one of these guys who's just, like, got so much energy and he's just such a showman. And the band's really good and tight and they, like, they're clearly rehearsed and tour all the time. And he's just, like, jumping around and doing somersaults and, like, slamming his body around. And it's fun. Really a great performance.
Bridger Weiniger
Where did this take place?
Jacob Wysocki
It's at this place called Five Star Bar in downtown la. That was a pretty iconic punk place in downtown LA for a while that closed. And then my buddy Dice, who's like a really big part of, like, kind of the DIY punk community in East LA and Los Angeles, she's run, like, a lot of really cool Underground venues, gray market venues. And he and his buddies were like, we're gonna reopen up five star bar to kind of have like a place for this community to exist. And he's kind of like, it's been a kind of his own undertaking and he's like revived it in a really cool, fun way. And it's cool to see like the city have like a more, you know, above ground to existing.
Bridger Weiniger
It's not somebody's basement or whatever.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Or like, you know, a hole in the wall in skid row or whatever, you know, which is fun. And that's, you know, that's where you should go see a bunch of texture. But it's also nice to just be like, I can get a beer and like there's parking.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like the closest I've ever come to that. And I feel like this is like the top is the Smell.
Jacob Wysocki
The Smell, yeah. Yeah. So it's right next to the Smell.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
It's literally like Kitty Cat corner to the Smell. It's like five star bars here. There's a parking lot, the Alleyway.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
They're like right there. The smell's awesome. That's an LA institution. Those guys are so great. They like have held it down for so many years. So many great bands come out of there. Oh, yeah, it's really cool.
Bridger Weiniger
I've been there in years, but I'm glad it's still open.
Jacob Wysocki
It's one of those places that like is always gonna be the same. There's always gonna be young kids drinking beer in the Italian.
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Bridger Weiniger
It's nice that that's just kind of a thing, that it's part of nature.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
You can't get rid of them.
Jacob Wysocki
It's just a cycle. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
It gives you a little bit of hope.
Jacob Wysocki
What was the last show that you saw?
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I wish I had a memory.
Jacob Wysocki
I wish I had a memory.
Bridger Weiniger
I saw Destroyer, which is not punk. It's.
Jacob Wysocki
I feel like I've seen it on Spotify. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
It's this guy, Dan Behar and a band that are kind of, I would say not super easy to describe because every one of his albums is kind of its own thing.
Jacob Wysocki
Cool.
Bridger Weiniger
But a little, I don't know, even in the realm of like who I would compare it to historically with music. Maybe in the same, like a little bit Brian Eno or Glammy slightly. But indie rock too.
Jacob Wysocki
Cool.
Bridger Weiniger
A little New Ordery.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Sometimes.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm liking how this is shaping out.
Bridger Weiniger
It's fantastic.
Jacob Wysocki
You Say Brian Eno. I'm in.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God.
Jacob Wysocki
Come on. Have you ever heard. You've ever listened to music at airports?
Bridger Weiniger
Of course. I used to listen to it when I would do my laundry in New York, sit at the Laundromat and just.
Jacob Wysocki
It's so good. I have it on vinyl. It's like one of the. My favorite things to play.
Bridger Weiniger
Beautiful. Yeah, it's. Absolutely. And his four, like, I guess, rock or pop albums, whatever you would call them, where he's singing four of my favorite albums of all time.
Jacob Wysocki
Sure. He's great. So good. So amazing.
Bridger Weiniger
He's gone on to produce some real. I mean, produce bands that I'm not super into. That happens, but you gotta make a buck.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, you gotta.
Bridger Weiniger
He's a huge Bills. He's one of our great. I have. What's it called? Oblique Strategies. They made an app of it. Do you know. Are you familiar with this?
Jacob Wysocki
No. No, please.
Bridger Weiniger
He created this, like, card thing in the seventies with. We should. I'm gonna try it right now. But it has, like, basically these different directives. And you would pull a card from the deck. Like, I think when they would be at a standstill in the studio or whatever, they would draw a card, and then, like, creatively, they would follow that directive. Okay, so let's see. And I don't think Brian Ito created this app. Oh, this one says, take a break. That's not very interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
Come on, let's see. They've been working hard enough.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay, now this. Yeah, exactly. This one says, allow an easement.
Jacob Wysocki
Allow an easement.
Bridger Weiniger
And then in parentheses, an easement is the abandonment of a stricture. So, I mean, you just do whatever. You do whatever you want with that information.
Jacob Wysocki
And so it was designed to inspire music choices. I think initially, we're gonna jam. And this jam is inspired by the idea of adding an easement.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. And whatever that means to us. I think it's just like, Brian Eno. Yeah. Big brain, spark, something. But I'll look at that occasionally, and it does almost nothing for me.
Jacob Wysocki
You might need a drum kit in.
Bridger Weiniger
Your feet or something to make that. But I think it's for creatives. Maybe something you can at least distract yourself with for a minute. But Brian Eno. Oh, my God, I just adore.
Jacob Wysocki
That's so cool.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I think. I mean, before I bore everyone to death with Brian Eno, I think we should play a game.
Jacob Wysocki
Let's play a game.
Bridger Weiniger
We're gonna play a game called Gift Master. But first, I need a number between 1 and 10. From you.
Jacob Wysocki
Do I tell you it?
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Jacob Wysocki
Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want.
Jacob Wysocki
Cool.
Bridger Weiniger
Be right back.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Hi, guys. I'm just gonna promote good health and wellness. Drink your water. Take a deep breath with me. In through the nose and out through the mouth. Let's do one more of those, huh, guys? For health and wellness. Out through the mouth. Now think about something you want to accomplish today, this week, or maybe this year. Visualize it. I'm visualizing it with you. Send it to me and I'll send you mine. Sending it to you. Wow. Think about how real that is and I hope that happens for you. Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
What an excellent use of that time. Anyone listening to the podcast is now driven off the road.
Jacob Wysocki
If they hadn't already, might need to, like, drop back. A warning, A coziness warning.
Bridger Weiniger
Please be fully awake and alert. Okay? This is how we play gift master. I'm going to name three things, three gifts that you can give away. Items, experiences, whatever. I'm going to name three celebrities and you tell me which celebrity you would give which gift. And on.
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, fun.
Bridger Weiniger
Does that make perfect sense?
Jacob Wysocki
That makes perfect sense.
Bridger Weiniger
All right. The gifts you'll be giving today are, number one, a good look in the mirror. Number two, a short lived but beloved dramedy. That's a nice gift. And number three, an in home urinal. I've used somebody's in home urinal before and I prefer it.
Jacob Wysocki
It's quite a flex.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a flex, but it's in what direction?
Jacob Wysocki
Hey, can I just say, and this is gonna be polarizing. Just piss in your sink.
Bridger Weiniger
Just.
Jacob Wysocki
What's it for? Same thing. Yes, it's the same thing.
Bridger Weiniger
It's got a drain. If it's got a drain. Trying to think of something that can rhyme. Let it rain.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, there you go.
Bridger Weiniger
The celebrities are, number one, Malia Obama.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Up and coming entertainment, something. I think she was a writer or something. Stephen King.
Jacob Wysocki
Great.
Bridger Weiniger
And number three, Barbara Corcoran. Do you know who that is?
Jacob Wysocki
I don't think I know.
Bridger Weiniger
Shark Tank.
Jacob Wysocki
She's kind of.
Bridger Weiniger
There you go. She's an entrepreneur, she's a real estate mogul and she's got a heart of gold, at least on the show.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay, so we've got the pisser.
Bridger Weiniger
The pisser.
Jacob Wysocki
We've got a good look in the mirror and remind me of the other one.
Bridger Weiniger
A short lived but beloved dramedy.
Jacob Wysocki
Short lived but beloved dramedy. I think we'll Give ba. I think Baba gets a good look in the mirror.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Jacob Wysocki
Cause what are you doing? What is this show? What is your life? Do you really need it? You got enough cash?
Bridger Weiniger
You've been doing Shark Tank for how many years?
Jacob Wysocki
70 years?
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, at least 70 years. She's about 130 years old.
Jacob Wysocki
A cackling witch at this point. It's dark magic keeping her afloat.
Bridger Weiniger
Get a hobby, Babwa.
Jacob Wysocki
Come on, fucking start taking up photography. Get a dark room. You can afford it.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm sure you have the eye for it.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I think I'd give her a long look in the mirror and she'd probably love it. I think there's some ego on her that she'd be like, look at that. Look how good it all is.
Bridger Weiniger
She's had some very good work done. Appreciate the work you've had done.
Jacob Wysocki
I think Steven can get the dramedy. I think he'd appreciate the story.
Bridger Weiniger
He's not getting a lot of dramedies on tv.
Jacob Wysocki
No.
Bridger Weiniger
He's not known for his soft comedy.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. He's not going subtle. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I wonder what the closest thing he has to a dramedy.
Jacob Wysocki
He just. I imagine him just. Yeah, there's a little bit of. Or thinner's like kind of cheeky. A little bit desperation, which is like Roy Buchanan, which I think is a pseudonym.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, he has another person writing books as well.
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, I'm sure it's a factory at this point.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, I'm saying, like, I think I believe he's writing them, but he can't stop that. He had to create a whole alter ego.
Jacob Wysocki
I could be so wrong and that's totally fine. And I don't think.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that that's true.
Jacob Wysocki
But yeah, desperation is like funny to me. There's like dark humor.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
The cop character's like very like. He's like a cheeky bastard. But I also just kind of love the idea of like Stephen King watching like the first season of sk.
Bridger Weiniger
Stephen King's Freaks and Geeks. I think that's nice. Kind of a late career turn for him.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, why not try and get into a different cash revenue stream?
Bridger Weiniger
Right. He needs it.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm sure he's got it right. If you can be bad, I think you could also be good. You're just kind of putting the mirror the other way.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Jacob Wysocki
Just flip in the mirror.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah.
Jacob Wysocki
And then Malia gets whatever the last one is.
Bridger Weiniger
She gets the. In home urinal.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. And that's just sort of like she's.
Bridger Weiniger
Probably already got everything she could possibly ask for.
Jacob Wysocki
God. Yeah, I think maybe it'll give her something to like they can roast her about it and that'll humber.
Bridger Weiniger
And that's probably what she needs, right.
Jacob Wysocki
To be a president's daughter who. She does blast cigs, which is I think is.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting. Gen Z. Yeah.
Jacob Wysocki
I think that's pretty cool.
Bridger Weiniger
Daddy's daughter. I think he stopped.
Jacob Wysocki
He did, but he was. He was blasting cigs for a while, which we love.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, you're the President of the United States. Smoke a cigarette, brother.
Jacob Wysocki
Come on.
Bridger Weiniger
The way this podcast has become pro smoking is so crazy. We're gonna have to come with a warning from this.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm in the pocket of big nicotine. I want you to know the surgeon.
Bridger Weiniger
General is coming for us.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I got drove here in a Winston.
Bridger Weiniger
Company car in a giant cigarette shaped car like the wiener mobile.
Jacob Wysocki
It's pretty cool. You can light it.
Bridger Weiniger
The exhaust comes out the back.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, yeah. When you get fast stuff.
Bridger Weiniger
Why haven't they done that? Bad move on their part.
Jacob Wysocki
You know. I'll call. I'll call.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes. I'm gonna fucking call. You're in touch?
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I can get. I can get up the ladder for sure.
Bridger Weiniger
Get them on the phone. Get the cigarette machine going. Well, you played it perfectly.
Jacob Wysocki
Thank you.
Bridger Weiniger
Very thoughtful.
Jacob Wysocki
I was nervous I was gonna fucking whiff it in the game.
Bridger Weiniger
No, you did perfectly. And all these people are going to appreciate their gifts.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. And they're welcome.
Bridger Weiniger
I hope so. Now we need to answer a listener question. People are writing into. I said no gifts gmail.com or they're sending voice notes. The voice notes have to be 60 seconds long and in a quiet space. That makes sense, doesn't it listener? But today we're going to read one. Will you help me answer a question?
Jacob Wysocki
Absolutely.
Bridger Weiniger
All right. This is Dear Bridger and hopefully tolerable guest. Okay. I mean that's a little.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay. Well, you're sort of already creating a bias in how I'm going to interface with you and sort of the level of kindness and empathy. The whole like you can find your whole dream thing is fucking.
Bridger Weiniger
It's out the window really.
Jacob Wysocki
Getting out of the window.
Bridger Weiniger
After returning home from our vacation two days ago, my partner and I discovered our apartment has been in invaded by fruit flies and ants. We had a new house dog sitter. So we're assuming, although we are certain they are the cause of this pest issue. Should I get in touch with them to ask about the situation or is it better to leave it alone? I'm worried they might be butthurt. Butt hurt. Okay. However, they are supposed to sit for us again next month, and I would like to prevent this from happening again.
Jacob Wysocki
Oh, my God.
Bridger Weiniger
Eagerly anticipating your incredibly uplifting and faultless recommendations. Okay. Now they're trying to win us over. Have a great day, Danny. P.S. hi, Annalise. I don't know who that's in reference to.
Jacob Wysocki
Fucking grow up.
Bridger Weiniger
Grow up is ultimately what everyone needs to do.
Jacob Wysocki
This is so lame. Fucking grow up.
Bridger Weiniger
You're making good on your promise.
Jacob Wysocki
I'm pissed.
Bridger Weiniger
You are upset. You're upset to begin with.
Jacob Wysocki
I got a fucking problem. There's ants in my house. Grow up. Dude. That shit happens.
Bridger Weiniger
You need to.
Jacob Wysocki
They're fucking with my gig. That's crazy. Why do you have. I guess my question is why does this issue. That is, like, fairly common, and you probably left town with fucking fruit in a bowl.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You probably left just crumbs all over the counter.
Jacob Wysocki
There's probably an old banana in a basket.
Bridger Weiniger
The floor needed to be swept.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Why can't there just be ants in your house? Because nobody was around. Why does it have to be the fault of somebody?
Bridger Weiniger
Because this person hasn't looked with.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And they're going in. That's why they're constantly escaping to vacations. They're running away from.
Jacob Wysocki
Champagne problem.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a champagne problem.
Jacob Wysocki
The guy watching my. While I'm having a good time. I'm sorry you had to have a little bit of reality in your life, man. Well.
Bridger Weiniger
And I feel like the solution here is just live with it. The person comes around, if it is their fault, they'll live with it as well. Ultimately, it will pass.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. Eight billion people. Find another guy. Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Find another guy. Cut this person out of your life.
Jacob Wysocki
It's really that hard. There's somebody who's. People need money. There's people looking to dogs.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Throw a rock, you'll find somebody. Is that the phrase? And also get some of the. Have you ever heard of the magic ant shock?
Jacob Wysocki
They don't cross the line.
Bridger Weiniger
It's unbelievable. I think it probably immediately gives you cancer.
Jacob Wysocki
Sure.
Bridger Weiniger
Because I think it's illegal. But you use this stuff, the ants. I've never seen anything like this. Anything is effective in any category.
Jacob Wysocki
Really.
Bridger Weiniger
But it's hard to find.
Jacob Wysocki
So it's different than regular chalk.
Bridger Weiniger
It's. As far as I know.
Jacob Wysocki
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I think it says, like, magic ant chalk on there.
Jacob Wysocki
Whoa. Cause I know the chalk. I've heard of the chalk. Like, I've done the chalk line just.
Bridger Weiniger
And it worked. Yeah, just chalk. Interesting. So maybe the magic chalk people are just. It's branding.
Jacob Wysocki
I bet you it's just branding. Or it's like a type of chalk that maybe it's like a more. Like, more gets off.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting.
Jacob Wysocki
I don't know. I'm pontificating it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. And it's just too much chalk, and that's why it becomes illegal. You can only have so much chalk.
Jacob Wysocki
It just starts getting weird.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, get some regular chalk and put it all over your house.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I don't know, man. This guy pissed me off pretty quick. This person pissed me off pretty quick.
Bridger Weiniger
It's D A N I. So, Danny, whoever you are.
Jacob Wysocki
And hey, thanks for listening to the pod. I hope you like it. Subscribe to the Patreon. There's a lot of great stuff over there.
Bridger Weiniger
And yeah, you owe Jacob.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah, I would fucking venmo me five bucks, dude. I'm helping you. I'm giving you. There's not a lot of people in the world that'll throw a hammer and just be like, hey, check your shit. I think we need a little bit more.
Bridger Weiniger
A dose of reality.
Jacob Wysocki
Come on.
Bridger Weiniger
The third thing America needs. We need to be eating as a family. Mystique and a dose of reality.
Jacob Wysocki
A little bit of slap of the face of what's really going on.
Bridger Weiniger
That's how we turn things around.
Jacob Wysocki
It's crazy to write an email to a podcast about ants. I don't want to be like, I think I am slightly going into actually being a little rude territory. But the more I zoom out, it's like, what's going on, man?
Bridger Weiniger
They're having a big problem.
Jacob Wysocki
You not have a friend to call?
Bridger Weiniger
They have a friend in me.
Jacob Wysocki
That's right.
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Bridger Weiniger
They expected me to be on their side this time, and unfortunately, they were wrong.
Jacob Wysocki
Serious apologies, Danny.
Bridger Weiniger
He's not sorry.
Jacob Wysocki
No, but I can't lose a fan.
Bridger Weiniger
You can't take it back. Take it back quickly. This is bad for your career, Jacob.
Jacob Wysocki
This is gonna ruin me. I'm gonna get buried in here's got.
Bridger Weiniger
To think about the bottom line. He's sorry. He doesn't want to end up at delightful Dinners.
Jacob Wysocki
No, I can't go back.
Bridger Weiniger
You can't go back to delightful Dinners?
Jacob Wysocki
My hands are too soft now. I don't think they'd handle it well.
Bridger Weiniger
We answered the question perfectly.
Jacob Wysocki
I think so.
Bridger Weiniger
I have my drugs.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. I hope you enjoy it.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, of course.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah. At least they find it. I hope they find a good home.
Bridger Weiniger
Of course.
Jacob Wysocki
Don't take both tabs of acid at once.
Bridger Weiniger
Right before I drive home. Yeah, that'll be the rest of my day.
Jacob Wysocki
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Please don't take the 134. Okay. I won't take both at the same time. Fine.
Jacob Wysocki
Split it with a friend. Have an experience.
Bridger Weiniger
I've had such a nice time with you.
Jacob Wysocki
This is a really fun time. Thank you.
Bridger Weiniger
Thank you for being here. Of course, listener. The podcast is over. Of course you know that you're denying it. You're scratching, you're clawing, trying to keep.
Jacob Wysocki
It going, sort of wincing at the bar, coming to a close there on.
Bridger Weiniger
Their iPhone, and there's really no nothing you can do. We've all been speeding towards a conclusion and here we are. It's over. I love you. Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Annelise Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at isaidnogifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
Alec Murdoch
When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you guessed to come to me empty handed. I said no. Guess your presence is present enough and I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me?
Jacob Wysocki
This is Alec Murdoch. I need police and an ambulance immediately.
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Jacob Wysocki
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Release Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Jacob Wysocki
In this episode of I Said No Gifts!, comedian and actor Jacob Wysocki visits Bridger Winegar’s backyard for a freewheeling and very funny conversation that travels from Walmart’s liminal spaces to psychedelic adventures, sour cream aversion, and the punk scene of LA. Of course, as tradition dictates, Jacob brings a gift in flagrant disregard of Bridger’s “No Gifts!” rule, resulting in an entertaining unraveling of the peculiar rituals and choices behind it. The episode strikes a perfect balance between comedic banter, thoughtful reflection, and absurd storytelling, all fueled by the duo’s mutual caffeine overdosing.
Timestamps: 02:24–06:54
“It is the grayest space I’ve ever been in.” — Bridger (05:32)
Timestamps: 08:05–10:43
“I would go beyond that… just, I would say hateful.” — Bridger (09:41)
Timestamps: 10:23–13:12
“The Gen Z — they’re smoking stokes... They love a cig.” — Jacob (12:29)
Timestamps: 15:10–21:02
Timestamps: 21:04–23:44
“It was heavy. It was wet. It was hot fish. It was so soft.” — Bridger (22:25)
Timestamps: 25:05–27:17
“The tent technology, in the last five years… it’s gotten crazy for beach wear.” — Jacob (26:35)
Timestamps: 28:08–36:32
“It’s like selling raw milk… but as soon as you put the mushrooms in, it becomes significantly more black market.” — Jacob (32:12)
Timestamps: 38:05–54:35
“I just left and I didn’t tell anybody, and I was gone for like two and a half hours just like tripping sack… wandering through these neighborhoods… being like, does anybody get me?” — Jacob (41:34)
“Mushrooms is a bicycle and acid is an e-bike. Mushrooms is less Tron, more FernGully.”
Timestamps: 54:35–59:03
Timestamps: 59:48–61:50
“He created this, like, card thing...different directives. And you would pull a card from the deck… Creatively, they would follow that directive.” — Bridger (60:33)
Timestamps: 61:55–68:09
“Get a hobby, Babwa... I think I’d give her a long look in the mirror, and she’d probably love it.” — Jacob (65:00)
Timestamps: 68:09–72:59
“Grow up. This is so lame. Fucking grow up… Why do you have to blame someone? This is a fairly common problem.” — Jacob (69:27)
On Drug Markets:
“It’s like a farmer’s market. You can go and smell it like you used to…there’s a lot of independent growers.” — Jacob (35:10)
On Bad Trips:
“The worst of it is, I came back after two hours…and the whole house was locked. I can’t get to Zach in my phone. I’m overwhelmed and I can’t get in.” — Jacob (43:31)
On Being Pro-Smoking?!
“The way this podcast has become pro smoking is so crazy. We’re gonna have to come with a warning.” — Bridger (67:21)
On Life’s Essentials:
“America needs to get back to eating at the dinner table and Mystique.” — Bridger (37:18)
On Burbank’s Walmart:
“It really feels like…I have just gone to another realm.” — Bridger (05:42)
The conversation is witty, self-aware, and both hosts lean into exaggerated exasperation and playfulness (“You fucking love [sour cream]. I smell it on you!”). There are flourishes of absurdity, dry humor, and honest admissions throughout, making the banter feel accessible and spontaneous. Jacob, in particular, leans into vulnerability and levity simultaneously, while Bridger maintains a dry, unflappable host persona.
If you haven’t listened, this episode is a masterclass in meandering, meaningful, and hilarious podcasting. It combines the mundanity of Walmart with the surreal weirdness of music festivals and the raw honesty of bad psychedelic adventures. As always, the forbidden gift is just the entry point for a memorable hour-plus of stories, gags, and unexpectedly philosophical asides. Highly recommended for fans of conversational comedy and LA’s creative underbelly.