Jessica McKenna Disobeys Bridger

Summary

Podcast Summary: I Said No Gifts! — Jessica McKenna Disobeys Bridger

Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Jessica McKenna
Date: January 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and comedic installment, Bridger Winegar welcomes comedian, improviser, and podcast host Jessica McKenna to the "I Said No Gifts!" studio. As always, Bridger’s only rule is "no gifts," but Jessica – like every guest before her – gleefully disobeys. The conversation meanders through Disney nostalgia, chain restaurant culture, reality TV obsessions, personal quirks, the etiquette of gift-giving, and eventually leads to the ceremonial gift unwrapping and a playful holiday-themed segment. Packed with sharp banter and insights on everyday absurdities, this episode is a warm and hilarious exchange between two of comedy’s most delightful minds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Disney, Nostalgia, and California Childhoods

[05:09-09:52]

• Jessica sports a holiday-themed Disney shirt, prompting musings on "corporate affiliation." Jessica jokes about picking Disney over other "bad" corporations:

  "There's two, and they're both bad. But this one has fun rides." – Jessica [05:17]

• Amusing debate about Disney characters’ peculiarities, especially Pluto:

  "Pluto, full of mysteries in general… It's the one animal that doesn't talk." – Jessica [06:59]

• Jessica reflects on growing up in Orange County, where Disneyland was “my mall,” and shares Rachel Bloom’s line:

  "The right amount of loving Disney is the amount that I love it." – Jessica [08:45]

2. Food Chains & The Case of Red Lobster

[10:00-16:46]

• A nostalgia trip about birthday dinners at Red Lobster, the glory (and threat) of endless shrimp, and the mystique of Cheddar Bay Biscuits:

  "That’s like you’re an 8-year-old trying to get gout. You feel very regal." – Jessica [11:18]

• Discussion of Red Lobster’s business decline and menu changes, segues into the peculiar resilience of the Cheesecake Factory:

  "Everyone knows if the menu is too large, you’re doomed... although Cheesecake Factory is here thumbing their nose." – Jessica [15:00]

• Bridger laments Robert Irvine’s protein bars and playfully pitches a "Save Red Lobster" reality series.

3. Reality TV Analysis: Tabitha's Takeover, Bravo, and Utah Housewives

[19:06-28:44]

• Jessica and Bridger dissect the oddities and cycles of makeover reality shows like Tabitha’s Takeover, and imagine a meta show:

  "This is the new category of reality shows. Somebody who comes in and revamps failed reality shows." – Jessica [21:30]

• Deep dive into Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (SLC), including the infamous "plane fight" and production quirks:

  "The person that I trust in that situation is Mary Cosby, because she has no reason to lie." – Jessica [23:13]

• Bridger details his Utah plans, “Bravo tourism” stops, and encounters with Mormon culture oddities ("dirty sodas").
• Speculation on the franchise’s longevity and crossovers with other shows:

  “Bring Monica and Linda back… that’ll revive the show for five seasons.” – Bridger [28:02]

• Admiration for reality TV personalities’ candor and strategic moves.

4. The Gift: A Citrus Squeezer & Fortune Teller Fish

[29:04-45:05]

• Jessica offers Bridger a gift (despite the show’s premise): a lime green citrus squeezer and a nostalgic "Fortune Teller Fish" (playful plastic toy that curls in your palm to tell your fortune).
• Squeezer discussion sparks practical advice:

  "It’s such a game changer to have a citrus squeezer… you get way less juice every time you use your dumb hands." – Jessica [34:18] "Alton Brown used to rage against the single use purpose tool, but I feel like this doesn't apply because the difference of the juice yield is massive." – Jessica [34:24]

• Amusing general store reflections:

  "General Stores are a confusing concept... now I’ll open a place where you can buy a leather bookmark." – Bridger [38:26]

• On greeting card economics:

  "No other card company is justifying more than a dollar for a card." – Bridger [40:48]

Notable Fish Reading:

• Bridger lands on “passionate” after the Fortune Fish dramatically curls up on his hand.

  "Everybody knew that already. I live a life of passion." – Bridger [49:02]

5. Musings on Gifts & Relationships

[45:09-47:29]

• Jessica shares her and her husband's minimalist gift policies and anniversary traditions (no gifts, but meaningful experiences).
• Thoughtful commentary on adulthood and the burden of obligatory gifts.

6. Game Segment: "Gift or a Curse"

[59:00-67:54]

• Bridger prompts Jessica with scenarios; highlights:
  • Looking at a menu online before a restaurant:

    "It's a curse... One of the great joys is to sit down and have that discovery." – Jessica [59:23]

  • Gravestone recipes: Jessica says curse, but Bridger defends as a new wholesome trend, joking it could fix the horrendous experience of finding recipes online.

    "Every gravestone should come with a recipe. This is the only place where you should be able to get recipes." – Bridger [64:01]

  • Non-red heart emoji reactions:

    "You have to do work for that, and that's such a lateral move." – Jessica [66:20]

7. Listener Advice: Gifting After a Health Scare

[68:11-76:21]

• Alex writes in about finding “meaningful” gifts for her husband recovering from a stroke.
• Jessica and Bridger brainstorm heartwarming and humorous ideas:
  • A Strokes cameo or song
  • Satisfying projects like complex LEGO sets
  • Fun music gear (like electronic air-drumming sticks)
• Reassurance that “missing Christmas” doesn’t matter; meaningful, slow projects can be gifts for an entire year.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "The right amount of loving Disney is the amount that I love it. Any more is insane… any less is cynical." – Jessica [08:45]
• "That's like you're an 8-year-old trying to get gout." – Jessica on Red Lobster [11:18]
• "This is the new category of reality shows. Somebody who comes in and revamps failed reality shows." – Jessica [21:30]
• "I'm passionate. I've got my lime squeezer." – Bridger [57:00]
• "Alton Brown used to rage against the single use purpose tool, but … the difference of the juice yield is massive." – Jessica [34:24]
• "Every gravestone should come with a recipe." – Bridger [64:01]
• "No other card company is justifying more than a dollar for a card." – Bridger [40:48]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|--------------| | Banter/Intro | 03:06–05:09 | | Disney & Nostalgia | 05:09–09:52 | | Red Lobster & Chain Restaurant Chat | 10:00–16:46 | | Reality TV: Salt Lake City + Makeover Shows | 19:06–28:44 | | Gifts & Unwrapping | 29:04–45:05 | | Relationship/Gift-Giving Philosophy | 45:09–47:29 | | Fortune Teller Fish segment | 47:46–51:00 | | "Gift or a Curse" game | 59:00–67:54 | | Listener Advice: Gift for Recovery | 68:11–76:21 |

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Tone and Style

Conversational, quick-witted, and peppered with pop culture references and gentle satire. Jessica and Bridger both display a wry, self-aware sense of humor, playfully skewering everything from Disney adultdom to chain restaurants and gift-giving rituals, while maintaining genuine warmth.

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For New Listeners

This episode showcases “I Said No Gifts!” at its best: a mix of quirky personal stories, nostalgic pop culture, and honest reflections on daily life, woven into a uniquely funny personal dialogue. If you enjoy comedic chemistry, pop culture tangents, and the intimate absurdity of gift-giving etiquette, this episode – and show – offers an ideal listen.

Transcript

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Jessica McKenna]

You get it now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You call it an early present for next year.

[Jessica McKenna]

What do you have to lose?

[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Jessica McKenna]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're here in the studio. I made it here safely. I did a little dancing in the car. I'm in layers. It's a great way to wear two shirts. What's going on? I had another electrifying weekend. That's about all I can say about that. I had a real conflict this morning. I almost wore the podcast T shirt just because I love it so much. But I feel like. I think we all know that's extremely tacky, and I don't know what to do. Could I wear the shirt if I just scratched out the name of the podcast? You know, so it's just the graphic. I don't know. But don't reach out. I'll figure out. I'll go on that journey on my own. What happened over the weekend? I saw Hamnet, which is, you know, it's beautiful. The big revelation for me is that Shakespeare was married to a heckler. I don't know what to say. I imagine they had a hard time going to comedy shows together. Didn't go to the Little House on the Prairie. They had some sort of meetup or show reunion somewhere in Santa Clarita, and all of the VIP tickets were sold out. They were also $600, which made me think, there are people with bigger problems than me. But maybe one year, maybe we could do a GoFundMe to get me to go to the Little House on the Prairie reunion. We did watch an episode of Little House on the Prairie. The most recent one we watched. The basic story was a morphing addict came through town and taught Mary how to play a little piano. That was a good one. We had to skip the one with the centennial picnic. That's the most boring episode of television ever made. Okay. Is there anything else I need to talk about? No, I don't think so. We're here changing your life, rocking your world. That's what the point of this podcast is. Let's get into it. Today's guest is just absolutely fantastic. It's Jessica McKenna. Jessica, welcome to. I said no gifts.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wow. Hi. Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I'm so happy to have you here in your. Kind of representing your favorite corporation in this Disney T shirt.

[Jessica McKenna]

Everyone has to pick one. And, you know, and there are two. There's two, and they're both bad. But this one has fun rides.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Yeah, I think that's a good to pick a corporation. Which one will let you go on a ride? Which one has a haunted mansion?

[Jessica McKenna]

Who has fireworks? You know, who has a duck with no pants.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Very few of them.

[Jessica McKenna]

Very few of the two. And so I pick my side. No, I apologize. I'm really timestamping your ass.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I like this. We're recording mid December. This will come out mid January. And now people are going, oh, God.

[Jessica McKenna]

I put the holidays behind me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Life was so different then. How am I supposed to relate to this episode? But I love. It's got Donald, Mickey, and Minnie and Daisy.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, and Goofy. Look at me. See things.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know, right? And I tried to figure this out. Oh, gosh. We were just talking about switching to a visual medium in podcast, but when I first got it, I was like, what is the pattern? And then I. This is interesting, right? I'm wearing a shirt. If you're just listening, I'm wearing a shirt that has squares with the main Disney characters. And it's holiday. They're all in Santa hats, and there's a snow quality about it. But the pattern actually goes vertical, not horizontal.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's why it was so confusing.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's confusing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's baffling. It's almost like reading English versus reading Chinese.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right, exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Left to right, up and down.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right. So once I solved that, I thought, oh, now it makes sense. One line I would say is the main three of Mickey, Donald, Goofy. And then we got Daisy, Minnie, Pluto.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, so that makes me think, is Pluto a woman?

[Jessica McKenna]

Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't think we ever got to the bottom of that.

[Jessica McKenna]

Pluto, full of mysteries in general.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. It's the one animal that doesn't talk.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right. But is also a dog.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

And is the size that a mouse can own them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. There's a lot going on.

[Jessica McKenna]

There's a lot going on.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That poor creature is kind of a servant to the rest of these evil.

[Jessica McKenna]

Animals, much like the corporation.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

But we have to pick, and Pluto has picked. He thought, now, do I love a mouse having dominion over me? No. But what are the alternatives?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Does he belong to Mickey?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, he does.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

He sure does. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They need to. They've got to figure out what's happening in the world of Mickey Mouse. I think, like, I feel like the world is too chaotic. It's anarchy.

[Jessica McKenna]

Do you know what'll be great? We had this happen last year when the Steamboat Willie cartoon hit 100 years. So now it's public domain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right, right.

[Jessica McKenna]

We should agree, you and I together, right now, that when Pluto becomes public domain. We write his origin story.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We figure it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. And I think it's corporate espionage. I think he works for Paramount.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. That's why he's been so quiet.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's kind of a slugworth of the Willy Wonka world.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. Are you. Do you go to Disneyland often?

[Jessica McKenna]

I do. I grew up. I'm a Orange county kid. So I. We could, like, hear the fireworks from my backyard.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, God. Were you calling and reporting it? All the time.

[Jessica McKenna]

Is this before or after the parade? I can't get the timing right. No, I really do love it. Rachel Bloom wrote a memoir. She has a story about loving Disney. She's also a SoCal kid. And she has a line that really resonated with me more than any other poetry or piece of religious thought or anything I've ever read in my life, where she said, the right amount of loving Disney is the amount that I love it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow.

[Jessica McKenna]

Any more is insane and detached from reality and, like, grow up. And any less is cynical. And I was like, rachel and I have a lot in common. But I was like, this might be the most significant thing we have in common.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a connection.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How often are you going to Disneyland?

[Jessica McKenna]

When I grew up in the past, it was, like, more affordable. We would go a lot. Like, I would do a thing where I would get dropped off. Like, it was my mall.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Jessica McKenna]

It was cool. Like, you'd go on, like, one ride, get a dinner, and, like, someone else's parents would pick you up. Right now I probably go twice a year.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Twice a year.

[Jessica McKenna]

I take my niece and nephews in the summer usually. And then probably have, like, one other time where I go with, like, there'll be some other occasion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. So you're not like, an annual pass holder.

[Jessica McKenna]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How much does that cost? That must be $9,000.

[Jessica McKenna]

And they threatened to get rid of it for a little bit. So I don't know. But I went, this shirt is actually from World.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't often. I've only been, like, twice, because why go there when you grow up by land? And I actually was like, I do kind of want merch here because I also love holiday merch. But I ended up refusing to get anything that said World because it felt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like it was confusing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Confusing for my personal brand.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. It raises too many questions. And suddenly people are asking you all the time.

[Jessica McKenna]

They're like, why? Why were you there? That's not where you live.

[Bridger Weiniger]

People get very violent and serious. About that type of thing. You wouldn't have been able to leave the house.

[Jessica McKenna]

No. And I just can't handle that right now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You love. You have enough problems.

[Jessica McKenna]

I can't be taking that on. I have to buy up all the VIP tickets for A Little House on the Prairie.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, God. That was disappointing to see. I don't know if it was disappointing for me or just disappointing to see people paying that much money for a vip.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A lot of the cast is gone. So what are you paying for? Ultimately, it's a little tough. And the whole. I don't know if you're aware of this, but they blew up the whole set of Little House on the Prairie.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, that's devastating.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So you're not even getting to see the set? You're just driving to Santa Clarita for no reason?

[Jessica McKenna]

That's ridiculous.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I guess. How many reasons are there to drive to Santa Clarita?

[Jessica McKenna]

Right?

[Bridger Weiniger]

My apologies to Santa Clarita, but I.

[Jessica McKenna]

Think that's one of the closest Red Lobsters.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is that true?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, have you been to it?

[Jessica McKenna]

Uh huh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Are you a big Red Lobster fan?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've never been to Red Lobster.

[Jessica McKenna]

Where'd you grow up?

[Bridger Weiniger]

In Utah.

[Jessica McKenna]

Did you have them at all?

[Bridger Weiniger]

There were. I think there was like one.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And for whatever reason, we just never got to go to Red Lobster.

[Jessica McKenna]

It was the. It was both my sister and I's pick for birthday dinner.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No.

[Jessica McKenna]

And we felt very fancy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That feels like a very birthday dinner type place.

[Jessica McKenna]

We'd get like crab legs for the table, which felt incredibly decadent.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh my God.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's like you're an 8 year old trying to get gout. You know, you feel very regal. And then I would always get popcorn shrimp, which is just a chicken tender.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, or just a chicken nugget. But shrimp, I think it's probably. I guess it's the fancy chicken nuggets I've never really thought about.

[Jessica McKenna]

And that I think is a perfect window into my nine year old self, which is like, huh, have you met me? I have quite an advanced palate for my age, but I would like it to be deep fried and I'm gonna dunk it in ketchup.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And they have the biscuits that everyone goes crazy for. I feel like I. The biscuit will never happen for me. How could it?

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, I want it to though.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't know that, you know, I feel like if you like grew up eating them, it's probably like the taste is built in for you. But I think Approaching that as an adult might be difficult.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Cheese biscuit?

[Jessica McKenna]

They're quite objectively good, I think.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What would you compare it to?

[Jessica McKenna]

Let's see. Are you a scone person at all?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I do like a scone.

[Jessica McKenna]

Cause it has almost more. I would say closer to like when you get a really good cheddar and chive scone.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

Versus like a country biscuit that you're covering in gravy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

It has like a thicker.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You will be choking.

[Jessica McKenna]

You will. It's dense, but it's got like a nice salty melt point.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Because it's still a ton of butter. And I don't know if they still do this, but they used to sell like at home kits where you could make them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, did you ever try them?

[Jessica McKenna]

My mom did. And they. It felt accurate. So that might be your journey.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That feels bad for the company. Maybe that's why they're in such financial trouble. They gave away the one thing that everyone went there for and they.

[Jessica McKenna]

They were letting us have way too much shrimp.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's right. That was like a real thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. My husband several times went with like trying to join the Centennial Club, which is having more than 100 shrimp at a time. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Putting a hundred shrimp in your stomach.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. He succeeded multiple times. But you have to pick the right kind of. I mean, I've stopped trying to math that. Math.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, were they like regular sized shrimp?

[Jessica McKenna]

Sometimes they're small or, you know, he'd like. You can pick the preparation. So he'd be doing like scampi or chill. Like just like cocktail shrimp. I don't know. But it's still 100 shrimp.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That still must be like five pounds of food at least.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. And also that's really an awareness of like, that's 100 individual animals. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's an entire population.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. That's a village. So.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And that was like an endless shrimp thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. And they did that. It was like a promotion they would do for like one weekend and then it was popular. So they let it grow. And that's financial Ru. And I think there were a few years where you could always get endless shrimp or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So the company was self sabotaging in a way. They had hit the self destruct button and said, let's just tank it.

[Jessica McKenna]

No. And not to timestamp us again, but it should be like Christmas. That's what keeps it special.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right. I mean, that's. Well, as a business owner, you think, well, if we're giving away too much of A thing. Maybe we should only do that for a short period of time.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's how business works.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then people will be so excited.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They'Ll make it an annual trip rather than. Well, we can get that anytime.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right. And now I'm never gonna go because.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It'S not special not knowing that we have a limited time with the ones we love.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That kind of thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Now they're probably. By the time this comes out, they may be fully out of business. I don't know.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The last headline I saw was they've been ruined by endless shrimp.

[Jessica McKenna]

But I think they're in a rebrand where they are pivoting towards that style of shrimp eating that's more like a low country boil or like Louisiana style where you can get the bag of shrimp. Have you ever done one of those.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where you throw it across the table and it's a sloppy mess? Yeah. So they're gonna have to kind of redesign the restaurant.

[Jessica McKenna]

And I think they've reduced their menu, which anyone who's watched, you know, Kitchen Restaurant impossible.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everyone knows Kitchen Hell.

[Jessica McKenna]

If the menu is too large, you're doomed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Although Cheesecake Factory is here thumbing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They've really kind of said, no, that's not true.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's right. Not true. For us, we are the exception that proves the rule.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look how we.

[Jessica McKenna]

Here's our novella.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Yeah. That's a one place that that kind of has works for whatever reason.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't know why.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then every other place, if you see more than 50 items on a menu, you're saying, I gotta get outta here. I gotta get outta this place.

[Jessica McKenna]

I forgot to call Robert Irvine and I gotta get outta here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Robert Irvine. I've talked about him on the show before because he has a new protein bar.

[Jessica McKenna]

How is he?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which is revolting.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, they're disgusting bars. My boyfriend bought some at Costco. He overbought. And now they're just sitting in our cupboard waiting for the next pandemic.

[Jessica McKenna]

Terrible.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I hate the things so. Too sweet. Can't have something that sweet in the morning. It's a real sugar alcohol tasting bar. But they should get. He should start going to giant corporations to rescue them rather than these small businesses that he's picking on.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right. It would be great to watch him save Red Lobster. Oh, my God. I would watch that as a miniseries, you know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. That could be a good limited series. That's Hulu's next big project, Red Lobster. And that's also they have a kind of a. At least the name isn't like one of these things where, you know, I've been complaining about Hampton Inn, trying to run from their name. Recently they've rebranded as Hampton.

[Jessica McKenna]

Get out of here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You can't rebrand as Lobster. No, that becomes confusing. Yeah, and Red doesn't tell you enough. So then it's like you'd have to do maybe add a word. Red Lobster Express, right?

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh my gosh, can you imagine having like a mini biscuit and shrimp before you got on a plane? Like a Chili's too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just a plane full of extremely sick people.

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[Bridger Weiniger]

Greenlight.Com iheart Speaking of business, renovations, and this is something else that people want me to stop talking about is. Have you ever heard of Tabitha's Takeover? You've gotta get into this show.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes, the name is immediately. Cause Tabitha's such a unique name. Did you ever watch Passions?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Ooh, I love whatever this is.

[Jessica McKenna]

No, it was a soap opera like when we were children, like short lived, shorter lived.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. I mean, compared to a soap Opera that goes 90 years.

[Jessica McKenna]

Exactly, exactly. I believe there was a witch named Tabitha on it or something. It was wild. It would be the kind of thing where you were watching your Saturday morning or your Tuesday morning summer brainless TV before you had to go to pool camp or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What a feeling.

[Jessica McKenna]

Pool camp. And sometimes you'd get all the way through the run up where you'd get to. Now the only thing. Now I'm into soap operas.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Anyway, Tabitha was maybe. How many soap operas have a witch?

[Jessica McKenna]

That's what made Passion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So that's what made it such a failure.

[Jessica McKenna]

Failure, ultimately.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But Passions. Oh, Tabitha Takeover is not a soap opera.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, it's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, kind of the dramas there.

[Jessica McKenna]

Is it like a tlcish program?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, it was on Bravo. It's this Australian woman and she says, I'm tough, I'm talented, I'm taking over.

[Jessica McKenna]

Was it Salons?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Initially it was Salons. Tabitha's Salon Takeover. That was the successful series or relatively sure. Then she moved into Tabitha's Takeover. And you know, I just watched one where she takes over a yogurt shop and it was just simply not as compelling. Yeah, you want to watch her yelling at hairdressers.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, I can picture her hair now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah. It's a very 2008, like blonde. Blonde, spiked, not spiky, kind of a dramatic bang.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's just a phenomenal show and I just love watching it. But where did she go? Oh, I know what she did. She started. She's now kind of a self help guru. She has something called bitch camp, which she teaches you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Can I go after pool camp? Does she want us to be more or less bitch? That's what I need to know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She wants you to be more okay. She wants you to be much, much more. And I hope that she's doing okay. I think maybe I should reboot the show. I'm sure there are plenty of salons that still need help.

[Jessica McKenna]

Also, just your takeover of Tabitha's takeover.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

Tabitha's taken over.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is the new category of reality shows. Somebody who comes in and revamps failed reality shows. Yes.

[Jessica McKenna]

Like, someone should have been able to come. I mean, we'll see how it goes, but with, like, Vanderpump and them. Or like, they can't get a new Roni cast figured out. Like, someone gets to come in and be, like, the Robert Irvine of, like. The menu's too many. It's too many friend Ofs. I don't care about the Ross. You need to start with some relationships that are real and build out from there. Everyone can't be purely cast. Some of this has to be organic.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We no longer know what they're fighting about. This is a fight about a fight about a fight about a fight. It could be kind of Project Greenlight meets Tabitha's takeover, and we just go into Bravo, et cetera, tlc.

[Jessica McKenna]

And one of the biggest notes that I would give the Bravo shows is you are not allowed to have drama from outside blog, podcast sources.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What about. Do you watch Salt Lake City?

[Jessica McKenna]

Of course. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What about, like, the TikTok or tweet? Because there's been some explosive drama about the TikToks and tweets.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, really just Meredith's reaction to the TikTok. But then are we gonna see footage from this plan?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, where Todd was looking at the other gal on his iPad?

[Jessica McKenna]

No, where Meredith freaked out at first.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How did I forget about this? That's all they're talking about.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's crazy. Or at least that, actually. I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How was there no footage? You bring up such a good point. There should. There's footage of everything else that's ever happened on a plane since 2010.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How was that not filmed by somebody on that plane?

[Jessica McKenna]

I've had.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How was Brittany not filming it?

[Jessica McKenna]

So true. Well, apparently, she was crying into her hair. Her hair was wet with tears. Here's evidence that we have sopping wet. Sopping wet with tears.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She had to towel off after this flight.

[Jessica McKenna]

Here's the part. Sorry to just derail into Salt Lake City for a second.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Don't apologize.

[Jessica McKenna]

But I mean, the person that I. I do trust in that situation is Mary Cosby, because she has no reason to lie or fabricate, you know, Like, I understand why Meredith would downplay and why Lisa has chosen to stick with Meredith to downplay. Heather was asleep for some of it, so she's an unreliable narrator. Plus, she's, like, always in the pocket of moving story.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Whitney will fall in line with whatever happens there. Britney sobbed to tears into her hair. Angie is, like, riding high, but doesn't really need the drama, only wants us to love Grease. Mary has no reason to lie. So the fact that she has said Meredith, it was out of hand. And why won't you just admit it was out of hand and we can move forward? I'm like, it was out of hand. Like, it was. Mary, to me, is the, like, the ding in the scales that makes me go, it was.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is the thing about Mary Cosby is she has been brought into the show and she does not care about being involved in the show.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it's like she's essentially the one normal person.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes. I mean, she couldn't be further from normal, but she is objective because she.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Doesn'T care, because she refuses to listen to producers.

[Jessica McKenna]

And she's not interested in machinations or, like, let's build a storyline or can you help move this forward? She's just like, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Often I'll watch her. It's like she's not even aware that it's a reality show where she'll be like. She's like, why are they fighting with each other? Why are you fighting with each other? You should apologize. Because she's thinking of them as human beings rather than characters. It's so fascinating. That's such a good point. But how small was this plane that no one was filming it? Simply, there was a gay flight attendant.

[Jessica McKenna]

And I'm thinking, are they holding it till the reunion?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. But what? Oh, yeah, that's a great leak. How did it not leak?

[Jessica McKenna]

Unless they bought out the footage and they're like, this is part of the rule is we will pay you this amount of money for the footage, but if it leaks, you only get it if we make it to the reunion with it being sealed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Andy Cohen kills you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. I bet everyone on the plane had to sign an NDA.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right? Well, and also, the production must have bought out first class entirely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then you have that little curtain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Here's my question. We frequently see them on these planes and it's like, oh, they're not even in business class.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Seems like, what was this flight coming home from? It was like, oh, from the island billionaires playground or whatever the Frick. Like, it looked like a set to go on the yacht. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And it was like.

[Jessica McKenna]

And this is an SLC recap podcast. Right. But you recap episodes from six weeks ago.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're basically describing my Patreon. I do talk about this thing constantly. I mean, I'm going to Utah for Christmas, and I'm gonna visit. Something I've learned recently is that Angie is sort of a Nepo baby. Her father owns this chain of famous Utah hamburger restaurants called Crown Burger. So I'll probably make a stop there. I'm gonna go to Mary's church.

[Jessica McKenna]

Are you gonna go to Beauty?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I mean, I go there every single time I'm there. I've been there. The only time I haven't been there was my most recent time because I went to Jay Z Stiles, which is from the other show, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And I can't go to two different Beauty places in one trip.

[Jessica McKenna]

And will you be cruising around with a dirty soda?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know what I try. I've been to Swig twice, and I regret it every time.

[Jessica McKenna]

I just can't imagine drinking Dr. Pepper with coffee made in it. I just can't imagine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, you can't imagine it until you are.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then everything changes. Now, I didn't do that. I've tried other ones that don't have. I'm not gonna try the cream in the Dr. Pepper. But every time I go, I'm like, well, I'll try the more controlled option. And it's still disgusting. A revolting drink. But it's extremely popular. They're on every corner there.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And so maybe I'll try again. I don't know. My boyfriend hasn't been there yet, so maybe we'll go through Swig once.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, you gotta do it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have you been to Utah?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Have you? When?

[Jessica McKenna]

I've been a bunch of times. Like, I've not done a lot of, like, Salt Lake City, like, city time. We went on a ski trip there growing up, and then I've gone to, like, the national parks and stuff.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. So nothing really since the shows have become famous.

[Jessica McKenna]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So now that It'll have to be a whole tour.

[Jessica McKenna]

That'll have to be a whole trip. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder how much longer Salt Lake City Housewives will.

[Jessica McKenna]

I feel like SLC is the crown jewel right now.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. But it's like, how long does something like this go on?

[Jessica McKenna]

It probably has, like, two more good seasons.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow, that's rough to hear.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't know, maybe not. It's just like, eventually, people tire. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, I always say, bring Monica and Linda back.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, my.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then you've got. I mean, that'll revive the show for five seasons.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I think they were different also.

[Jessica McKenna]

Do you think we'll ever just merge our.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, at some point, one of the Secret Lives gals is gonna come over. Wow. It'll probably be Whitney Levitt. She's done with. I mean, she is soaring.

[Jessica McKenna]

I loved her honesty of like, I am here because I can be on Dancing with the Stars. I was like, God bless it. This is a type of character I've never seen on reality tv.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I am using all of you, and.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'm open about it, but this is a sisterhood, and I do wish we could be friendlier, but I'm not that worried about it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it's working for her.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, my gosh, it's brilliant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's going to be in a Hulu show at some point. She's getting it all.

[Jessica McKenna]

She's a scripted role. You must get tickets to the Oscars. I. Golly, I love it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's a talented gal, and we love her.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, speaking of things I don't love, look, I was excited to have you here today.

[Jessica McKenna]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I thought, Jessica will come by, we'll have an incredible time, and then we'll just, you know, go on with our lives.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The podcast is called I said no Gifts.

[Jessica McKenna]

Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you waltzed in today, whistling, holding a little gift bag over your shoulder, and I thought, well, now here comes trouble.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, you know, it's the holiday season, and, you know, my mother raised me right that you don't ever show up without a host gift. So, you know, maybe if I was booked at a different time of year, I would have obeyed it, but I just simply couldn't come in empty. Not to your beautiful studio.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Not you having me in this, the festive time of year, none of that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Makes any sense to me, but, I mean, the damage is done. Should we open it here on the podcast?

[Jessica McKenna]

I mean, I'd love it if you would.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, fine.

[Jessica McKenna]

You know, just, you know, and I like to. You know, they say don't make more work for a host, so sometimes it's rude to bring flowers, and now they must fetch a vase or.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've never heard that before.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Don't make work for the host. Don't bring something that now needs a platter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Bring a candle, bring a bottle of wine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Bring, you know, whatever's going to happen in here.

[Jessica McKenna]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

We haven't had tissue in a while. Oh.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oops.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, okay. Breaching there. It seems like there are two things in there.

[Jessica McKenna]

There's two. Well, one's like I would say, you know, paper thin. Think about the festive season. One is a gift and one's more of a stocking stuffer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which one should I take out first?

[Jessica McKenna]

I think maybe the gift. The thing you can really get your.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I'll take both of those.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, perfect.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'll just ignore you. I'll ask for your advice and then ignore.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, I feel like we should. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I love this. I love. It's a juice and it's a citrus squeezer. Citrus squeezer. Excuse me. Yeah, I've received one of these before from Paul Feig. Wow, so you really. You two are twins now?

[Jessica McKenna]

Wow, that's an honor.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you know, I used to do more videos of demonstrating how to use the gifts, and I demonstrated it. And everyone said, well, have you ever used one of these before? You're doing it so wrong, apparently, like. And I've already forgotten the way to do it. But, like, how would you do this?

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay, so I would, you know, cut the piece of citrus in half.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Yes.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then. And this one's really good for limes. This is very lime sized. And you'll remember. Cause it's green.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, of course. I need that.

[Jessica McKenna]

Don't try to put a grapefruit in here. Okay. This one's mostly for limes. Or a small lemon.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Trying to put a grapefruit in there.

[Jessica McKenna]

But this is mostly for limes. Okay. And then I would put the lime cut side down over these holes, its little butt facing up. And then you press down and. And it. I mean, it is. It's such a game changer to have a citrus squeezer. I'm sorry that this is doubling up, but I mean, I know he's a martini man, and it is essential for any home bar. But also just cooking as well. And anytime that I think, oh, I don't wanna dirty it. Let me not get it out right now. It only calls for a squeeze of lemon. I'm always like, what the hell am I doing? I'm getting way less juice every time I use my dumb hands. And.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And why else do you own it?

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, exactly. And you know, I watched a lot of like, Cooking Network, Food Network growing up, and Alton Brown used to rage against the single use purpose tool. But I feel like this doesn't apply because the difference of the juice yield is massive.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I also think, like, I don't know, I feel like this doesn't really get that dirty.

[Jessica McKenna]

No, no, no. And it's just like a. You could literally just wipe it and put it back.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Because it's got all that acid. I just assume it'll just burn away.

[Jessica McKenna]

I mean, it's what we use for ceviche.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Exactly. Wow. Great point.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Tell Alton Brown, how often are you using a citrus to make a food or drink?

[Jessica McKenna]

I would say a lot. Like, you know, you do like a little. And then also the seeds can't get through. So you want to brighten up a dish with a little lemon across the top.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Uh huh. I have a couple trees in my backyard and I've been in my house for five years and the orange tree has finally got fruit on it and I'm losing my mind.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Eating an. I've decided my favorite fruit is a blood orange.

[Jessica McKenna]

And so now that's a lovely choice. You might be able to fit a blood orange in there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. These are. This is about the size. Oh. And I will say that the way you demonstrated, you were doing it correctly and I was doing it wrong with this.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wait, so how did you do it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was putting it in with the fruit.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Because you know, it's like, it looks like.

[Jessica McKenna]

It looks like it's a cubby. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They need to reshape these things.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. It's more like I'm going to use force to make it fit. It's not going to fit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And I stand by the way I chose to use it. How was I supposed to know?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. It's confusing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was humiliated online.

[Jessica McKenna]

You don't put anything in that top there. And yet it looks like it's meant to hold something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. The top is like an ice cream scoop. Well, there you go.

[Jessica McKenna]

There you go. There you go.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This could easily scoop an ice cream. Why do they have. They should just block this off. They should have a little cover over the top.

[Jessica McKenna]

They should have a piece of caution tape at least.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Do not use.

[Jessica McKenna]

So that you don't get confused.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, this could be used as a spoon, a gravy, ladle, all kinds of things. So maybe that's. I feel like there has to be.

[Jessica McKenna]

Some purpose for this because you're right. It could just be filled.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That could simply be filled. But maybe. I bet there are worse ones than this. And they fill them in like a cheaper. But this is more delicate and classy.

[Jessica McKenna]

Looking and they want you. They're not. They're not using any unnecessary metals, you know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, right. It's very efficient. Very efficient. Where did this come from?

[Jessica McKenna]

This came from the general store across the street from where I live.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh.

[Jessica McKenna]

I thought that place will have something fun. And I popped around and there were lots of like dumb things. And then ultimately I was like, I mean, I'd actually use a citrus squeezer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

General Stores are a confusing concept.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're kind of, at this point, like, what is it to go buy, like, a. Like, gifts for guys.

[Jessica McKenna]

So I think this one is a little bit more operating like a convenience store, I would say. It has, like, beer, wine, alcohol, snacks. It's almost like a fancy 711 that also has, like, incense and candles and citrus squeezers and funny cards and, like. And then it's attached to a pizza place, so it's got a little bit more of a function. I remember when it was, like, first coming in, it was like, this neighborhood does not need a twee, like, Pendleton blanket and wood pencils. But it does have, like, food. And not only. And not like, twee food. You can get, like, Takis there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've seen this place before. Yeah, I've been. Yeah, I know the pizza place it's attached to. I'm not gonna dox you, but I'm familiar with this place, and I have not visited it yet.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I was tempted to go in and get, like, a soda or something.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, you could get a soda.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. There's a general store in Silver Lake that's a little bit more of what you're describing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Every time I go in there, I just think, well, how are you in business?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who's buying any of this?

[Jessica McKenna]

I think that about the strip in Atwater, where I feel like there are four, and I'm like, how are you all sustained?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, there are a lot of. I think it's rich children.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, I agree. I was just gonna say it's their. Their parents are successful, and that's what they do.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like, now I'll open a place where, like, you can buy, like, a leather bookmark. I. Yeah, right. I just like. And you never see anybody in them. I know exactly what's happening and that everything will be way too expensive. So I just. And there are at least four in Atwater.

[Jessica McKenna]

And I also feel like. I always feel like it's too personal somehow. Like, that's the type of store that I feel like I need to say goodbye when I leave.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, it's the sort of store where I have to lie, where I'm like, I'll be back.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Oh, good. You do have. Okay, great. Good to know. Okay, Good to know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I always feel embarrassed that I might like, even looking at the price tag, because I know they're looking at me, and they know that I'm going to think it's too expensive. I hate those places.

[Jessica McKenna]

I do, like, Them for, like, cards.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. When you want to spend $9 on a card. Yeah, I guess that's. You know where I like to get a card. Trader Joe's.

[Jessica McKenna]

Me, too. I love their cards, but also sometimes I feel like they'll have, like, the main ones, and then you'll be like, wait a second. You're missing, like, a whole main category.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, what? Funerals?

[Jessica McKenna]

They'll have that, but they, like, won't have, like, thank you or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right.

[Jessica McKenna]

Which I guess, like, I don't know. I think you should always have, like, birthday. Thank you. Get well thinking of you. Congratulations. Right, right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like you should never have. They should all be completely blank.

[Jessica McKenna]

Blank.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just put an image on the front and let me figure it out.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm always so uncomfortable with whatever any card says.

[Jessica McKenna]

They usually do. They have writing inside the Trader Joe's card. It's, like, rare or it's very simple.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that's how they keep prices down. They only print on the front, just like the squeezer.

[Jessica McKenna]

They're very efficient, but the front will make it clear. The front will say, like, here comes your birthday. And it'll be like a train. That's like, birthday train.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That makes up the majority of their cards. We all love the Trader Joe's birthday trade, right? No, I like the ones where it's like, oh, here's a. Here's the ocean washing up on the beach. And now I can apply this to whatever. It's the birthday beach. It's the death beach. It's the baby coming to shore.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Just let me sign.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wedding wave.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The wedding wave, and then it's a dollar. And I think every other card card company is scamming. There's just no justifying more than a dollar for a card.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't know what to say, but I. How did we get to. We were complaining about general stores, and this is a beautiful item to have gotten there. Do you have a favorite fruit?

[Jessica McKenna]

I think it's pineapple. Really good mangoes up there.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm trying to start to think about favorite things. I feel like, as a child, you have all of your favorite things, then that all goes away.

[Jessica McKenna]

And you're constantly getting drilled on them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Constantly. I'm being quizzed. Constantly I get pulled over. I'm being asked what my favorite food is.

[Jessica McKenna]

I have that answer ready.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But eating a blood orange recently, I was thinking, wow, this is my favorite fruit.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I like a fruit that's not too sweet. If I Eat too many of them. It'll give me a stomachache. So the tartness, I feel, like, controls how many you can eat. But I like a blood orange. Blood orange is excellent.

[Jessica McKenna]

I like a grape. Well, I like grapefruit flavored things. I like citrus a lot in general.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love grapefruit juice.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I've recently realized that it interacts with my medication.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You gotta be.

[Jessica McKenna]

What a weird one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like kind of a magic fruit in a way that, like, you're on Wellbutrin and suddenly the grapefruit is saying, no, you can't. So I guess I can't drink it that often. It's more of a treat. But it feels dangerous. It's like, well, maybe I'll be really depressed today.

[Jessica McKenna]

And ultimately, I would say, no, grapefruit's worth that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'll say it absolutely is. Send me to the edge of depression. I love the taste of grapefruit. I love to eat a grapefruit. I don't own any grapefruit fruit forks, though.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you?

[Jessica McKenna]

No, but. All right, future guess.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Please mark it down. I love a little grapefruit fork.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Very delicate.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I guess you can eat them with a regular fork. But then I'm a disaster.

[Jessica McKenna]

I feel like I mostly ate them with spoons.

[Bridger Weiniger]

With spoons?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. I was, like, really carving and then getting the segment.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It is kind of a disaster as far as eating. It should be shaped like an orange. The segments should be more like an orange.

[Jessica McKenna]

I guess they are. If you peeled them. But they would be big.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That would be massive. I've never peeled a grape.

[Jessica McKenna]

I think it was just the aesthetics of the 80s of diet culture, which is like, we're gonna cut this and you're gonna eat it like it's cereal, and that'll trick your brain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've never thought about that.

[Jessica McKenna]

Is each segment you're really gonna work for it. But, I mean, it's exactly the same.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like you would feel insane peeling one.

[Jessica McKenna]

No, you can't. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You'd feel so small.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, but that'd be good. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You'd feel like a little mouse.

[Jessica McKenna]

Like when we look at the stars.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. It's exactly the same experience as looking at the Big Dipper.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Reminding you of your place. Oh, it's grapefruit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm really not that big in the.

[Jessica McKenna]

I guess this doesn't matter. Look at this grapefruit. Okay, take a deep breath.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What was the last thing you made with your juice squeezer in the summer?

[Jessica McKenna]

My husband and I love a gin and tonic. And we make something called an hvg, which is a high volume G and T. Oh. Because we love a G and T. But you're. But in the summer, we actually desire more liquid.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, okay. Of course.

[Jessica McKenna]

Especially if it's like, the sundown or it's like a happy hour cocktail. You don't want to have a strong mixed drink. You actually want to be, like, sipping.

[Bridger Weiniger]

On something that's cooling you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Exactly. So we invented the HVG&T, and we had cups made, and so that is a regular. It's like two shots of gin. Usually drum shambo, the Irish gin. It has kind of notes of. Of Earl Grey and then some tonic. And then you top the whole, like, rest of it with, like, almost a whole can of pure bubbly. Oh, so you, like, water it down with club soda. So now you're gonna drink the equivalent of two drinks, but it's gonna take you way longer. And the key of it, to make the flavors balance is to put a lot of lime.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that sounds lovely.

[Jessica McKenna]

So it'll be like, a full lime in each.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And what are the cups you had designed for this?

[Jessica McKenna]

They're like the yeti cup. That's like, one size. This is not an official yeti. No free ads. But this is. It's like the size bigger than this that has the, like, bulb out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

And you can get those monogrammed. So he got it for our anniversary.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's lovely.

[Jessica McKenna]

One for him and one for me. And they say HVG and T and then our name on the back.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, hvgt. Kind of hgtv Very close. Wow. That could be confused. Yeah, that feels like some sort of lawsuit. Just on the fridge. Do you guys do a lot of anniversary gifts?

[Jessica McKenna]

No. No, it was rare.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you ever date? How long have you been together?

[Jessica McKenna]

We've been together 15 years, and we've been married for 10. And we have pretty, like, set rules about, like, we don't give gifts for. We say no gifts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. God, Speaking of losses, we give birthday.

[Jessica McKenna]

Gifts, and we have, like, Christmas is like, give one big gift and maybe, like, four stocking stuffers. We try to keep it, like, even. No gift for Valentine's Day. No gift. Gift for anniversary. So he kind of broke it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. Yeah. That was so fun.

[Jessica McKenna]

He always forgets that we do cards.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then I'll be like, I have a card, and it's $9 from a general store.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We don't. We're really, like, slowing down on gifts. I just don't need any. You know, it's like, as an adult, you just buy everything you need or.

[Jessica McKenna]

Want or if something occurs to you organically, then it's really cool that, you know, someone can think of you. But when it's forced and it's in, like, a. If you don't have a good idea and you end up being like, okay, I bought you five shirts. Like, I don't know. Why'd I do that?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You probably would've bought ones that you like more.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I don't think we're getting. I mean, we're getting past the idea of it being a sad thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like, well, we just have agreed. What would I buy you?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. And we did a thing where for a while, we were like, oh, let's just make sure we do something fun on our anniversary.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. Right?

[Jessica McKenna]

Let's go make sure we, like. Let's go away for the weekend. Or let's. Like, this year was our tenure. Just, like. So we went away for the weekend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where did you go?

[Jessica McKenna]

Ojai.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's nice.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm not an Ojai person.

[Jessica McKenna]

I feel it's full of general stores.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels like, to me, like, Mother's Day as a city. Does that make any sense?

[Jessica McKenna]

Makes perfect sense.

[Bridger Weiniger]

For whatever reason, it doesn't have anything for me there, but I totally understand why other people like it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Do you enjoy, like, a spa? Spa?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I. I don't think I've ever actually been to, like, a spa you stay at, and I don't drink, so, like, wine. I feel like you do need to have a glass of wine while you're there.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. But I would say, like, a little massage and then, like, a bike ride into town for brunch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, see Mother's Day.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, that's literally. There's nothing wrong with Mother's Day, but I think if you were to turn it into a physical place, that would be. Oh, yeah.

[Jessica McKenna]

I think that's probably true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But that sounds like a lovely anniversary trim.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, it was nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I didn't mean to.

[Jessica McKenna]

No, no, no. We rode bikes and we sat by.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The pool, totally relaxing. I mean, it's. I mean, that's essentially what I do in Palm Springs.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes. Very similar. Like, if you go in the right weather where you're gonna be sitting by a pool, to me, it's pretty similar to, like, a Palm Springs experience.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I just need somewhere to read.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't know. Okay, let's. We've got this other thing here, which it's a fortune teller fish.

[Jessica McKenna]

Have you ever done this?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have no idea what this is.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, really?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Listener. It's a little like plastic, what would you say? Bag.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, like a small plastic sleeve.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it says fortune teller. Miracle fish with a very cute fish on the front.

[Jessica McKenna]

I didn't realize how seafood themed this episode was gonna be, but okay, so I have a very vivid memory that when I saw Little Mermaid in the theaters, we got these, but they're just like, you know, it's in the same sort of vein as like a finger trap or like a yo yo or something like some small trinket but. Or like a mood ring. So if you open the sleeve, there's a small fish in it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh my God, that's cool.

[Jessica McKenna]

And you're gonna put it on your palm. Hold your palm out and it's gonna tell your fortune.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So just like this?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, just put it on your. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it's like curling up.

[Jessica McKenna]

Uh huh. It's actively curling. Really curly. Oh my gosh. Full curl, tail flip. What? Okay, so then you can look at the sleeve and it'll tell you your fortune.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's see. So if it says moving tail, you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Definitely had moving tail, but you might have is full curl. One of the options.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Curls up entirely.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Passionate.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's you. The fish has told your fortune.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Everybody knew that already. I live a life of passion.

[Jessica McKenna]

And what's. Tail.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Tail. Moving tail. Indifference.

[Jessica McKenna]

See? But it fully moved. It didn't just like flop like a dead fish.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. It really curled up there in a way that, you know, I'm a fiery, passionate person.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's a tight curl for. For a fortune fish.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look at that.

[Jessica McKenna]

Look at that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Full tube. Wow. This is. I can't believe I've never heard of this. I've never used one.

[Jessica McKenna]

You know, they might not be allowed in the state of Utah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How does this even work? What is that made of? That it's reacting to the heat of your hand or just who I am.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. The pulse of your heart, you know, it's sensing you. It's making a home in your hand.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is interesting because I feel like I have horrible circulation and usually my hands and feet are very cold. So today, something the universe was saying.

[Jessica McKenna]

Passion, passion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

When was the last time you did one of these?

[Jessica McKenna]

I think maybe this. There was a time recently where we were somewhere and we saw them and my family was laughing cause we hadn't seen them in years. And we made my nephews and niece try it. We were just like fortune Fish. It's been ages.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Are you big into psychics, this kind of thing?

[Jessica McKenna]

No, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have you ever been to a psychic?

[Jessica McKenna]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, what a shame. Not in la. You've got to go to one.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know. I'm just trying to hold the line for.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What line are you holding? Not losing your mind?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, just trying to. Just trying to keep. Keep those feet on the ground.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Good luck. No, I think I've held the line pretty well. But I love the experience.

[Jessica McKenna]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's just like I haven't been to one of those ones that says fortune teller in the window.

[Jessica McKenna]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which I think that would be incredible.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Well. And I sometimes like try to keep an open mind. Like if I'm walking the streets of New Orleans and I see some like that could be almost like a. I guess it's here too. Like if it feels so ingrained in the culture. You're just being like an open hearted tourist really. But I One time for a quiz for my friend's bachelor party, called a psychic for their behalf and invented a game called like, Is this something the psychic said or is this a lyric from a musical?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's great.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, it was pretty fun.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What musicals were you using for lyrics? Every musical.

[Jessica McKenna]

Any, like really broad.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're a big musical person.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Have you been to New York recently to see any shows?

[Jessica McKenna]

I just was in New York with like a sort of dedicated purpose that I wanted to see shows, but brag. I have two friends who are in plays.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What plays?

[Jessica McKenna]

The World of Tomorrow, which is with Tom Hanks, and then Marjorie prime with June Squibb. Oh, wow. Those are both my friends. Tom Hanks and June Squibb. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. You don't need to.

[Jessica McKenna]

My friends are in plays and stuff, so the plays we saw were their plays.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's great.

[Jessica McKenna]

Which was lovely. But I was like, this is funny because it's been a minute since I've been able to go to New York for shows.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And your friends work.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, I was like a work friend. I wasn't like, let me see. Death becomes her or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And you'll never see Queen of Versailles.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'll never see it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That one came in.

[Jessica McKenna]

It was closing right before my very eyes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that was like three weeks or something.

[Jessica McKenna]

Tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a tough one.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's a tough business.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I was talking to somebody about this. I think that. Is that the first. Oh, no, that's not the first documentary to musical. Because there's Gray Gardens.

[Jessica McKenna]

Gray Gardens. No, I was gonna say like it might have just been a zeitgeist thing where I feel like spelling bee was at the similar time as the spelling bee document. And it's not based on. But it feels of a similar, like, oh, group think moment where we decided spelling bees were spelling bee.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The documentary. I loved that. I wonder where those kids are now. We need to do a catch up.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. Where are they?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where did the spelling bee take them? And it's been probably at least 50.

[Jessica McKenna]

Years, so it's public domain.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I wonder.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's ours.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Somebody's gotta catch up with spelling. Yeah. I imagine it probably wouldn't be very fun to watch.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I feel like anytime you're catching up with people from a documentary, it's usually.

[Jessica McKenna]

They did that one documentary where they followed a certain group of kids for seven Up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, the British thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. I never watched it, but I know how to reference it in this moment. But. But yeah, I mean it's.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Just watching time. It's the funnest experience.

[Jessica McKenna]

And that's why I feel like our dear sweet SLC maybe, you know, you don't want it to overstay its welcome.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And become the thing I'll say is with, you know, you start with people whose lives are already a complete mess. Right. So it's just like, let's just watch it become a different type of mess.

[Jessica McKenna]

And I'm just like, are any of these. I mean, I feel like the longer they stay, the more the marriages don't last.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And these marriages were all hanging by a thread. The fact that there hasn't been a big divorce until now. Right, Todd? Goodbye, Todd.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wait, is that a fish?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I thought it was. I thought Bronwyn was divorcing him.

[Jessica McKenna]

Is that outside the show? Is that news?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's news outside of the show.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's huge.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, that's like recent. Outside of, you know. Cause they probably shot it in the spring of 25. What is time?

[Jessica McKenna]

I mean, it seemed bad. He stole the cherry out of her sundae after she explicitly said, that's my favorite part.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And that's just a red flag about both of them. No one likes that cherry. Yeah.

[Jessica McKenna]

Not as an adult. That was like something I would get out the bottom of my Shirley Temple is like, hooray.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The fact that he stole. That was so crazy. And it was such a father daughter date. I know everything about it was tough to watch. He wasn't, you know, like age gap things. You can be like, sometimes it's like, oh, he's charming or he's really good looking. He was just kind of nothing.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, a grump.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He was just like a. Yeah, he should have been married to Muzzy.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Those two would be an excellent couple.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe that's. Maybe she was the gal he was looking at on a plane.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, my gosh. Muzzy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She was sending him some sexy photos.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wow. You unlocked it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. How did I not piece that together? She was living in his house. It was all under Bronwyn's nose.

[Jessica McKenna]

And here's what we've been able to do today. We've been sleuths.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Get your magnifying glass, put on your hat, and your smoking pipe. Wow. Yeah.

[Jessica McKenna]

I feel like we could be a segment on the reunion where we're like, don't tell us anything yet. Let us guess.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Do you know what I heard recently? Part of the reason Lisa has makeup every day is she can't see very well. Well, I think that's what I heard.

[Jessica McKenna]

That kind of breaks my heart.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it's the sort of thing where it's like, why doesn't she say that? That's the one thing that could humanize this person. She's like, no, I want to be a monster.

[Jessica McKenna]

Why don't. You can't just, like, put on this. I mean. Yeah. I mean, my mom will often be like, will you check my eyeliner? You know, and there's like a dexterity thing and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But apparently.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then my sister was just like, mom, just line with shadow instead and use this brush and it'll blend softer. Anyway.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. What a great tip.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

See, this is how podcasts change people's lives for listeners. Like, oh, now I can fix my eyeliner. I'm a mess.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But, yeah, apparently. I think Heather said that on an after show or something.

[Jessica McKenna]

That is interesting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Big secret. That should be the drama of next season. That revelation. You never know.

[Jessica McKenna]

And that's why she's always wearing big glasses.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe. Oh, interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

Do you know?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow, those are all giant prescription glasses. There's a chance.

[Jessica McKenna]

And maybe she doesn't have good. I. She's not a candidate for contacts. Maybe.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And we never see her driving, do we? I feel like it's usually John driving.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And she's eating chicken nuggets.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow. It's one of these.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's all becoming clear. Oh, my gosh. It's all like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's very Sixth Sense where it's like.

[Jessica McKenna]

It'S been there the whole time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was all the little things.

[Jessica McKenna]

Meredith can't hear and Lisa can't see, and that's that's why they have to stick together.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Jessica McKenna]

And they're both not from Utah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Fascinating. And they're both very sensitive about it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting, interesting, interesting. And if they would both just own up to it, we would open our hearts to our a little bit more. Yeah. We'd be like, oh, I get it now.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're not just the devil. I don't know. Well, I'm passionate. I've got my lime squeezer. I think we should play it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Great.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're gonna play a game called gift or a curse. But I need a number between 1 and 10 from you.

[Jessica McKenna]

4.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.

[Jessica McKenna]

Great.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So right now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay, great. I don't really have anything to super promote right now. I tour a lot, but we won't be touring till April. I guess if you live in Texas, you can see Off Book, which is my former podcast that now just tours where we improvise a musical. So if you're in Texas and you wanna come to Moon Tower, you can come see Off Book. Also, I'll recommend a citrus squeezer. I really think it's worth it. And anytime you have ever cut just like a wedge of a lime and tried to do that, it's not the same. And that squeeze is going sideways. It's not going down into your cup. Okay. And that's how you get. That's how you get it in an open cut, you know, and that's not nice. And also, more recipes than you think could benefit from a little bit of citrus to brighten it up. Do you know about apple acid in your food?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very good.

[Jessica McKenna]

Thanks.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very good. I mean, I will say, when you're out squeezing the thing into the drink, go for it. And I also think getting it in a cut, nothing wrong with that.

[Jessica McKenna]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a little prairie advice.

[Jessica McKenna]

Ouch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, but now suddenly it's so clean.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's clean.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It is clean and fresh smelling.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But ultimately we need the squeezer in the home.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. You know? Yeah, I agree. Like if you were at a wedding and you got like a Vodka, you waited 15 minutes for a vodka cranberry and you're like, gotta get this lime in here. Do your best. But no, most of that juice is going sideways when you squeeze it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And now you have a thing floating at the bottom of your drink. Kind of a little dead shrimp down there. Tough to hear. Okay, Do I have anything to recommend? I already said we've Got the T shirt. Now the merch. Go to exactlyrightstore.com. yeah, that seems right. Okay.

[Jessica McKenna]

Seemed exactly right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is how we play Gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why, and I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Because there are correct answers, you can lose the game.

[Jessica McKenna]

Great.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, this first one is from a listener named Emily. Gift or a curse? Looking at a menu online right before dining at the restaurant.

[Jessica McKenna]

I think this is ultimately a curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Jessica McKenna]

I have done that before. Sometimes right before. I don't think I've ever done right before. I've Sometimes, sometimes, if it's a really big splurge or if you're in charge of, like, picking a food place for maybe disparate dietary needs, and you have to look at the menu to make sure, like, oh, everyone could get something here. Or this is gonna be the right vibe for this, you know, hangout that I'm trying to plan. But ultimately, I think one of the great joys, and I'm glad that the QR codes have, like, been pushed back a little bit, and they're mostly just at, like, very, very fast casual type restaurants now. But I think a great joy is to sit down and have that, like, discovery. It's a great small talk to the beginning of the night to have that, like, you know, let's break the ice here. We can be like, oh, wait, did you see they actually have fettuccine? And now we're. And now we can talk about that before we talk about, like, hey, did you hear that Todd and Bronwyn are getting a divorce? You know, you can't just go right to that. It's like the amuse bouche for the conversation is the menu. And if everyone'. I already looked ahead and I know what I'm getting. I'm getting duck confit. And I'm like, whoa, should we share the duck confit? And also, I think it's very nice to sit down at a meal and try to be on even footing. So if you've looked at the menu and someone hasn't, I understand there's a time and place, but I think ultimately occurs.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Correct.

[Jessica McKenna]

Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But for different reasons. I'm seeing the words right before. No, no, no. It should have been weeks. You should have been studying the menu, worrying about the prices, panicking about what you'll eat, deciding and looking and going back and forth, really weighing the pros and Cons of each menu item, seeing if you even trust the restaurant, then looking at it again, maybe showing it to your partner, showing it again, then going to the restaurant and still asking the waiter for suggestions.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think that ultimately you need to have. You need to have essentially have memorized the menu in advance.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, so that's an example where maybe I would have gotten points deducted in my show the work. But. But you would have ultimately said it of the points. Because you're like, you did get the right answer. The hypotenuse is this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, but we know you cheated. You looked at someone else's paper.

[Jessica McKenna]

You looked at someone's paper.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, you've gotten one right so far. The second one is from a listener named Samantha Gift or a curse. Gravestone recipes. Have you heard of this?

[Jessica McKenna]

No.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is something I recently became familiar with. I don't know if this is something that's bubbling up online or what, but there, you know, it's literally what it is. I think it's like, on your gravestone, you have your favorite recipe or something.

[Jessica McKenna]

I don't know about this. Okay, let me think about it. Let me try. Just be knee jerk. Okay. I'm torn because I think I'm becoming anti grave in general. Like, I think we should all be made into seed pods or dust. Like, I don't like the idea all grieving machinations and businesses are for the living. And. And so I get that. Do what you think. But I don't want people to, like, come to a little, like, granite square for me. I want them to think about me any other place and not just have this very morbid place where they go. Where they're surrounded by other granite squares, where you're like, oh, my gosh, this is really sad. I mean, we grew up visiting my grandmother's grave, and it was always very sad.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

It didn't make me feel closer to her or, like, you know, I felt closer to her when I would remember something or we'd laugh about something or someone would tell the story about. About something funny she did. Or that was how we kept her memory alive. The granite stone I don't like. Also, recipes, they get splotched. They get, like, things spilled on them. They're meant to live in the kitchen. Cause ultimately, you're gonna have to have a picture of this gravestone. So if you're like, hey, does anyone remember how grandma made her Swedish meatballs? Here, let me send you a screenshot of a photo I have of her grave. Whereas that should just Be in a recipe card or something that you all have as her grandchildren. So I'm gonna say curse. Although I like the idea of. I like part of that, which is like honoring something joyful about their life and not just dates and like list of familial roles they held.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, first of all, I'll just say I heard almost nothing you were saying, because I was thinking about being turned into a bath bomb. I think that should be an option, a death option. Being turned into a bath bomb. If that's not already. What is it called? Bed. No. Bath and bodywork. That should be their new thing.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's what your body works into, is a bath. Oh, that's brilliant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Bath and body works. Ash bombs. Ash bath bombs.

[Jessica McKenna]

Brilliant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God. That's okay. I'm so sorry. I was distracted.

[Jessica McKenna]

Well, I mean, you were having a once in a generation idea.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I will say I did hear what you said. I think that. Well, first of all, you're wrong. They are a gift. I think every gravestone should come with a recipe. This is the only place where you should be able to get recipes. We should take them all off of the Internet. And people should be scouring graveyards for people's favorite recipes.

[Jessica McKenna]

Now that I agree with. Because the experience of looking up a recipe online is a hellscape.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it's a tough one. It's a. I mean, the. You know, I feel bad for the recipe authors because it's obviously a nightmare.

[Jessica McKenna]

And that's how they get trying to make money online. But it's horrific that you have to read a blog post and they'll like, they'll like soft dole out the information where they tell you like, some of the ingredients. And then you're like, wait, wait, wait, no. Where's the list of the ingredients? And you're like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling millions of pop ups. And I didn't think about this about taking recipes from graves you're not connected to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

And then that would make a cemetery much more pleasant. You could just like walk among the gravestones and say, oh my gosh, I've never thought to do that with ricotta.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And maybe the graveyard has a grocery store attached.

[Jessica McKenna]

Brilliant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So we can do all of our shopping and recipe gathering with the dead.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So you were wrong. But that's fine. You made some good points about it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Thank you. Thanks. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, this final one is from Peter Gift or a curse. Reacting to texts or shared posts with a non red heart, for example, orange, green, et cetera.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'M getting caught up in the semantics that I believe the original one was more like pink, and you actually have to scroll to get the true red.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Jessica McKenna]

When we had our starter pack of thumbs up, thumbs down, question mark heart. It's more of a pink heart. Oh, you have to scroll to get a red heart.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Jessica McKenna]

But I don't think that's what Peter meant.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're being purposefully difficult.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, I don't need to drag Peter about, like, shades of pinks and reds.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, he's not a tech head like you are.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah, I'm a me. No one could ever accuse me of being a Luddite. I think it's okay. Just different color hearts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Jessica McKenna]

Not like, oh, I'm searching for, like, a ding bell or like a lightning bolt or a snowman.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Or the weird little silhouette of a. That means. That's so ominous.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'm gonna say curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Jessica McKenna]

Because you have to do work for that. And that's such a lateral move. And I have nothing connected to green heart. Purple heart.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Purple heart.

[Jessica McKenna]

Makes me think of someone who got injured in war. Orange heart.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What does orange heart. That one really has to. Nothing.

[Jessica McKenna]

You're excited that the Holland national soccer team is doing well?

[Bridger Weiniger]

That comes up all the time for me.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'm always talking about that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have several different threads about the Holland team. You're correct. This is a curse. We should have stopped at the one color heart. Red or pink, whatever it was. The one Valentine's ey Heart. I can't continue to read into whatever your reaction is to my text. I just need to know that you wanted to stop talking to me.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That you were done with the conversation.

[Jessica McKenna]

You were putting a period on it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Thank you. I will not be responding to this any further.

[Jessica McKenna]

I used to send my manager and I when we text. When I was sort of done with the conversation or when I was like, cool, I got it, I would just send back, not react, but would send just the sunglasses emoji.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Jessica McKenna]

You know, like, cool, cool. Got you. We're big, cool, cool kids to each other. You know, he's also Socalboy, so it's a lot of, like, cool, cool, cool.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Surf's up.

[Jessica McKenna]

Surf's up. Cowabunga.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hang loose.

[Jessica McKenna]

Hang loose. Toast to the nose. And I always thought it was a charming way to end the conversation. And then one time he was like, oh, so you're done talking to me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. Well, yes, but it's a nice way to end it.

[Jessica McKenna]

I know. I was like, sorry, it's a good exit point. I mean, we lulled. It was appropriate ribbing. But I was like, oh, so you did see what I was doing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, but when you see what somebody's doing, just do it.

[Jessica McKenna]

Let it be. Yeah, let it be. Whisper words of wisdom.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, well, you got two out of three. Not two. Tarot. All right, this is the final segment of the podcast. This is. I said no emails. People write into isednogiftmail.com begging for answers. Can you help me answer a question?

[Jessica McKenna]

I would love to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, this is. Hi, Bridger and guest. I am a Day One listener and love the podcast. Well, this is a huge red flag for us. This person's a problem person. I'm writing with a bit of a unique gift situation I'm hoping you can help me with. My husband had a stroke last weekend at the age of 35.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, gosh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's doing really well and is recovering at home now, but it was the most terrifying experience of our life. Lives. The future remains somewhat unknown in terms of when he'll be able to return to work and what kinds of activity he'll be able to do. Now that I've thoroughly killed the vibe. You have. You've ruined the episode. Here's my question. With Christmas coming up. Okay. And so now this is tough. Tough all around for Christmas.

[Jessica McKenna]

I'd already really timestamped this, but I'm sorry. You will now get this advice after.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Christmas is always coming up ultimately true. Start the Mariah Carey now. Yeah, Just get into the spirit of the season in January.

[Jessica McKenna]

Absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. So with Christmas coming up, I'm struggling to think of gift ideas. Everything I would normally get him doesn't feel meaningful enough to express how thankful I am for him, how much I love him, and how much he means to me and our son. I'm almost limited by the. I'm also limited by the unknown future. He loves his craft beer, but can't get but can't drink right now. We love to travel together, but he can't travel yet, et cetera. He enjoys music, video games, and his job as a behavior specialist in a middle school. God bless this person. He's the best person I know. I appreciate any ideas you can give me to make this Christmas special, Alex. And then there's a P.S. it says, I know this is a serious topic, a serious and not very funny topic, but my husband and I both have a sense of humor, so feel free to joke about it. Well, I was. Listen, I was gonna do whatever I Wanted, no matter what.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's very sweet.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She says, I almost brought his. The Strokes T shirt to the. For him to go home in, and then he was disappointed that I didn't. I would say you have to have multiple strokes if you're gonna wear that T shirt.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So that would have been a bad thing to take anything.

[Jessica McKenna]

Unless she taped over the final S. Yes, exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The stroke.

[Jessica McKenna]

The stroke. But I love that they're aligned. You gotta laugh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You gotta. What else can you do?

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, Alex. Oh, man, that is tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And what a tough year for both of them because now the Christmas email has been read in January.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes, but. But hopefully, like, his birthday, this will still be applied. There's always another occasion.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He will always have had the stroke.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So it's totally fine. And by now, you know, maybe he's up and running.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay, so, I mean, without. Wow. Trying to show appreciation. What's Alex's husband's name?

[Bridger Weiniger]

We never found out. That was the one piece of information from Alex's life that we didn't get.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay. So without knowing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Tony.

[Jessica McKenna]

Tony. You know, I would need to know Tony's love language, I feel. Because I think, you know, appreciation when you really want to show, like, meaning. A lot of times it's like doing the thing that they have been putting off for themselves, you know, like changing the dome light in your car or like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's a big one.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. One time my husband replaced the RAM in my computer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow.

[Jessica McKenna]

And was I. I was like, cool. And he was like, I probably saved you, like, two years on getting a new computer. And those don't always get the showiest reaction from me because that doesn't mean as much to me. But I think it's like, thinking of things that make life easier is always nice for your partner. Or like, oh, you mentioned. Obviously, that's always the best. Is if someone, like, mentioned it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Mentioned.

[Jessica McKenna]

If we're laughing. I mean, is there a cameo we can get from the Strokes where they.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Say, julian Casablanca's cameo? You know, have him say, I heard you've had a stroke.

[Jessica McKenna]

You know, maybe a little song, right. That, like, they can play every time things are getting kind of bleak. They can be like, maybe we should actually dance out to your bespoke song. That's like, hey, it's okay. We're so glad that you're here. Don't be afraid.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, that's a good one. And we're wondering, are any of the Strokes on cameo? That feels like maybe there's a first for Everything.

[Jessica McKenna]

We can always, like, reach out to their record label or their manager and say, this is a very specific. But I think it would really bring a smile to his face, and it's something that you could replay and laugh about, like, it's a little evergreen.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Get in their Instagram comments and just reply over and over, comment after comment. Please write my husband a song. He has a stroke. Write him a song as many times as you want.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay. Then a completely different direction, but just something that I would enjoy if I was in a place of, like, needing to take things a little slower and be at home. But I'm sensitive that I hope there's. If there aren't any dexterity fallout issues from the stroke. But I love a really complicated LEGO set.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, I've never been able to complete a LEGO set. My older brother would always complete them for me.

[Jessica McKenna]

Have you ventured as an adult?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I don't think I have the skills. I don't have the spatial skills.

[Jessica McKenna]

No, you do. And they're so peaceful, and they are brilliantly organized. Where. Here's the best thing about them as an. Because I like a puzzle, too, but then it's, like, sitting out, you know, A big LEGO set is divided by bags. So I like. I recently did, like, a floral arrangement, and it was 10 bags. And so I could, like, keep the box away and be like, ooh, you know what I could do right now? One bag.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that's a very contained activity.

[Jessica McKenna]

And it's very peaceful and Zen and fun. And they have, like, a cool guitar. There's a typewriter. Also, my mom had some health stuff last year, and when I was, like, sitting at home with her, I did this really elaborate Nintendo set with a compendium TV with Mario.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Whoa.

[Jessica McKenna]

And it was really fun to take my brain off of it so you could do it together. I don't know how old your son is. Probably too young to help with a complicated set, but it is kind of a fun. You can do it slowly. You could do a really hard one, like the Taj Mahal or something.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Put on some music in the background.

[Jessica McKenna]

Chill out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, just keep assuming he only knows the Strokes. Get the Strokes on vinyl and blast it while you're doing some Legos.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay. And then also, I've seen. And I keep thinking that I would like these. There's, like, these drumsticks that are just, like, they. You just, like, drum in the air and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Does it make noise?

[Jessica McKenna]

It makes noise. And, like, I think you can have your headphones on, too. And I feel like that's a good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, oh, I love this.

[Jessica McKenna]

That's a good, like, physical thing that if you feel mad about, like, why'd this happen to me? This is. This is dumb that this happened. You can give yourself a little, like, rage it out a little bit, you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Know, I want those drumsticks. That sounds delightful.

[Jessica McKenna]

Okay. Shoot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love to air drum.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love to air guitar. Wow. Well then, I mean, I feel like, look, did we miss Christmas? Did we ruin their year? Yes, absolutely.

[Jessica McKenna]

Have we potentially helped their next year?

[Bridger Weiniger]

A full year.

[Jessica McKenna]

Which is way better than way better. I mean, right now we only have. We have like 15, 16 days left.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. If this had been a Christmas one, they would have had like two weeks.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then who knows what 26 holds for them.

[Jessica McKenna]

And a lot of those big Lego sets are on backorder.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh. They're a popular toy with the teens. The teens are loving.

[Jessica McKenna]

And me. And me.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The teens especially are getting the floral design ones.

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah. You know which one I did a few years ago. That's amazing. The Home Alone House.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow. They've really gotten into some crossovers, I imagine.

[Jessica McKenna]

It's beautiful.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Does it have little traps?

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Does it have an iron that slams somebody in the face? Incredible.

[Jessica McKenna]

It has a small Lego. That is Kevin's plan, the battle plan. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Does it have a Joe Pesci?

[Jessica McKenna]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Jessica McKenna]

Including the van that they drive in. It's a very special set.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, we answered the question perfectly, I think. So we can't get any more complaints. Don't write back in.

[Jessica McKenna]

Maybe get that set and you can work on it slowly through the whole year. And then it'll take you up to next Christmas.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. And then you can surprise him with some other gift. Right back in.

[Jessica McKenna]

Uh huh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Actually again, don't write back in, but think about what we told you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Think about.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, we answered the question perfectly. I have this absolutely gorgeous lime green citrus squeezer. And I found who I am passionate. I'm very passionate and indifferent.

[Jessica McKenna]

The fish was like, could. Could he be indifferent? And then was like, actually no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This guy's an absolute freak. So. So what do we know? I've had such a lovely time with you.

[Jessica McKenna]

Oh my gosh. Thank you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank you for bringing me. Well, listener, the podcast is over. You know, I have nothing left to say to you or the guests. And so you have to stop listening right now.

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[Bridger Weiniger]

Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Anneliese Nelson and our episode are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at isaidnogifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

[Jessica McKenna]

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