Kylie Brakeman Disobeys Bridger

Summary

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I Said No Gifts! with Bridger Winegar

Episode: "Kylie Brakeman Disobeys Bridger"

Date: April 9, 2026
Guest: Kylie Brakeman
Podcast Network: Exactly Right & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lighthearted and absurdly funny episode, comedian Bridger Winegar welcomes performer/writer Kylie Brakeman. As always, Bridger insists on his famous house rule: guests must not bring gifts—yet, as always, the rule is gleefully disobeyed. The pair dive into tangents about modern life, LA and New York adventures, zoo ethics, fake podcast ads, mobile game scams, and metrosexuals, before unveiling Kylie's delightfully weird gift and playing a signature game. Expect comedic chemistry, nostalgia, and unexpected wisdom as two comics riff on life’s absurdities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening Banter: Daily Mishaps & Relatability

Time: 02:55 – 06:31

• Bridger humorously laments low attention at the studio, being overcharged for a Reuben sandwich, and troubles with his torn-up backyard and his dog's bathroom preferences.
  • "I did come to the studio today, and it was entirely empty and started to feel like, why am I not getting the level of attention I need?" (Bridger, 02:55)
• Kylie nods empathetically, relating to food mishaps and the universal etiquette of never speaking up in restaurants after being a server herself.

Dynamic Pricing, QR Codes, & LA Gas

Time: 04:48 – 07:59

• Spirited riff on the ever-increasing price of sandwiches and menu anxiety caused by QR code menus.
• Jokes about dynamic pricing at Wendy's and LA’s infamous $8.50/gallon gas.
  • “You're about to go to the store and you're gonna make eye contact with the fruit and it's gonna tell you it's $14.” (Kylie, 05:51)
• Ant Facebook (auntie-filled Facebook) and its love of sensationalist stories poked fun at:
  • "It's ant Facebook bait!" (Bridger, 07:11)

Electric Cars, Range Anxiety, & Excuses

Time: 09:00 – 09:48

• Discussion about electric car adoption, range anxiety, and how it becomes an excuse to skip plans.
  • "I do think my parents have range anxiety. They have an electric car and...does this even make any sense? Should we even go?" (Kylie, 09:20)
• Bridger jokes about not caring enough and someday being proven wrong.

Recent Trips: NYC, SNL, Spelling Bees & Broadway Drama

Time: 09:50 – 16:47

• Kylie recounts visiting NYC to see a friend on SNL, braving cold weather, and, for the first time, podcasting in a dress due to LA’s heat wave.
• She reviews "The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee," featuring Kevin McHale, and shares nerves about recommending shows to hardcore musical theater friends.
• Broadway World TikTok drama, "slime tutorials" (bootlegged musicals under code names)—delight in the weirdness of internet subcultures.
  • "Slime tutorial—obviously they've been around for a while now, but they still seem so recent that it's weird that's the keyword..." (Bridger, 16:50)

Zoos, Acting Classes, and Petting Zoo Conspiracies

Time: 18:00 – 27:43

• Comparison of Broadway bootlegs and zoo animal footage, musing about zoos "paywalling" their animals like streaming content.
  • “Slime tutorial: wolf. Gotta see this thing.” (Bridger, 18:37)
• Hilarious recounting of Kylie's college acting class: visiting the LA Zoo 10 times to "become" an animal for a performance (she picked a goat), pondering zoo/college kickbacks.
  • "My professor was in cahoots with the zoo." (Kylie, 20:05)
• Surreal anecdote about seeing a goat at a Sweetgreen, unconfirmed in reality—leaving both doubting her sanity.

Playground Economics, Bloody Mary, and Teacher Stories

Time: 27:56 – 33:54

• Trading systems of dirt and rocks in elementary school, swiftly shut down by anxious teachers.
• Recess/elementary bathroom anxiety, sharing of urban legend games (Bloody Mary).
  • "The devil will come to you through Ouija boards..." (Bridger recounting his Utah teacher, 31:47)
• Wild story of a teacher giving a spontaneous lecture on Satan, and sharing inappropriate personal information.

The Gift Reveal: Mini Wacky Waving Inflatable Tube Guy

Time: 36:26 – 44:22

• Kylie’s gift: a mini wacky wavy tube man from Dave & Busters, humorously presented in an Apple TV “Severance” promo bag.
  • "This is...from the world of Severance. This is a lumen bag." (Bridger, 36:35)
• Technical talk about its battery requirements, speculation about battery company kickbacks, and jokes about the psychological damage if left running at night.
  • “It's just low hum for a bit....If anybody enjoys lawnmower ASMR...” (Kylie, 38:06)
  • "It's a tool. Yes, it's a tool for sleeping. It's a tool for whimsy." (Kylie, 89:15)
• Sidebar about “licking banana slugs” in Santa Cruz for a numbing tongue sensation.

Mobile Game Ads, Fake Podcasts, and Class Anxiety

Time: 48:45 – 53:59

• Dissecting the universe of fake podcast ads, AI podcast hosts, and mobile game scam advertising.
  • "People are creating...phony little podcast studio just to make clips to post to a TikTok." (Bridger, 49:13)
• Bizarre mobile game tropes: rescuing hapless kings from tubes, fixing "Russian peasant women with zits."
  • “The king is like Bart Simpson. He is up to no good." (Kylie, 51:52)
• Noticing the absent middle class in ads ("The blacksmith is never in peril!").
• Gambling is "the new job" in game ads—Kylie’s Vegas gambling story:
  • "I was willing to start a gambling problem, the casino industry failed me." (Kylie, 56:28)

Vegas, Blue Man Group, & Pool Poop

Time: 59:33 – 62:01

• Tales of Vegas adventures: slot machines, Blue Man Group, the infamous poop-filled Flamingo pool per her friend's dad, a pool professional.

Spheres: Las Vegas and Burbank’s Secret Beta-Sphere

Time: 61:37 – 64:11

• Amused speculation about the Vegas Sphere venue, the private Beta-Sphere in Burbank, and the futuristic significance of "spheres" vs. cubes or pyramids.
  • "The more I say sphere, the more disoriented I become." (Bridger, 62:54)
  • “The sphere is the future.” (Kylie, 63:19)

Metrosexuals, Cafés, & 2000s Nostalgia

Time: 64:27 – 68:08

• Riffs about LA's (overrated) Earth Café, the word "metrosexual," and nostalgia for early-2000s fashion labels and media coverage.
  • "If I'm a metrosexual in 2010 and it's New Year's Eve, there's only one place I'm going—Express." (Kylie, 66:54)
  • "We need to get back to calling people metrosexuals." (Bridger, 65:51)
• Bridger muses: “Does anyone in the world identify as a metrosexual at this point?” (67:21)

More Gift Analysis & Dave & Busters Games

Time: 68:38 – 70:18

• Recollection of Deal or No Deal arcade game: “You're just picking...number 12...she opens it up and either goes ooh or yay. I love those girls.” (Kylie, 69:12)
• Theorizing about rebooting Deal or No Deal with disastrous prizes ("rats, worms, humans running out of oxygen").

Reality Shows: Survivor, Love Is Blind, and Deal or No Deal Island

Time: 71:30 – 75:32

• Kylie discusses getting into Survivor for its 50th season—delighted by contrived celebrity idols like the "Billie Eilish boomerang Idol."
• Thoughts on mashups, potential for briefcases on Survivor; tangent on the Jerry Springer-ification of reunion specials.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On QR code menus:
  “That’s why they're switching to QR codes. There’s a new conspiracy no one's talking about.” (Kylie, 05:30)

• On Broadway bootlegs:
  “A slime tutorial. Yes, I just heard this, which is so...” (Kylie, 16:47)
  “What little freak decided to combine my two interests today and start a movement?” (Kylie, 17:21)

• On LA Zoo acting assignments:
  “My professor was in cahoots with the zoo.” (Kylie, 20:05)

• On Sweetgreen’s drier-than-dry kale:
  "Sweetgreen has the driest kale in the business. I dare you to find a drier carrot." (Bridger / Kylie, 22:16–22:23)

• On grade school trading societies:
  "Our lobby was too powerful. The teachers just didn't enjoy it." (Kylie, 29:02)

• On Vegas pool water:
  "Highest levels of poop are in the Vegas pools. Of any pool in the country." (Kylie, 60:40)

• On spheres & the future:
  "The sphere is the future." (Kylie, 63:19)

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Game Segment: Gift or a Curse

Time: 73:22 – 80:47

• Bridger’s signature game: Kylie adjudicates if various concepts are a “gift” or a “curse.”
  • Referring to your personal life as ‘behind the scenes’ — Gift (Both agree. “A little taste of Hollywood.”)
  • Bruises – Kylie: Curse. Bridger: Gift (“Your body gets to explore a new color for a period. It’s a reminder of your mistakes.”)
  • Garbage Day – Kylie: Gift. Bridger: Curse (“They’re taking my things. It’s noisy!”)
• End result: 1 out of 3 correct ("A .333 batting average—that's incredible in baseball!” – Kylie, 80:47)

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Listener Question: Sugar Daddy Gift Conundrum

Time: 82:14 – 88:47

• Sabrina asks what to get her 58-year-old sugar daddy (who funds her life) when buying a gift technically means using his money.
• Kylie and Bridger’s comedic logic spiral arrives at:
  • Buy an expensive item for yourself (he likes money being spent on you)
  • Or, make him something money can't buy—like a macaroni frame with a photo at Nobu
  • Or, get audaciously demanding (“Give me more money for this”)
  • Or, bring him to the Vegas Sphere (better yet, the top-secret Beta-Sphere in Burbank) along with his six other “sugar sisters”
  • “A private evening at the Beta-Sphere with my sugar daddy and his six beautiful sugar babies.” (Kylie, 88:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Section | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|--------------| | Daily mishaps & relatable whining | 02:55–06:31 | | Price rants, gas, QR codes | 04:48–07:59 | | Electric cars & NY trip | 09:00–10:21 | | SNL, musical theater, slime tutorials | 10:09–17:17 | | Zoos, acting class, petting zoos | 18:00–27:43 | | Playground economies & urban legends | 27:56–33:54 | | The gift (wavy tube man) reveal | 36:26–44:22 | | Fake podcast ads & gaming scams | 48:45–53:59 | | Gambling, Vegas, Blue Man Group | 56:00–62:01 | | Sphere talk (Las Vegas & Burbank) | 62:01–64:11 | | Metrosexuals, Earth Café nostalgia | 64:27–68:08 | | Deal or No Deal games (arcade/game show) | 68:38–70:18 | | Reality TV, Survivor, Love Is Blind | 71:30–75:32 | | Gift or a Curse (game segment) | 73:22–80:47 | | Listener mail: Sugar daddy dilemma | 82:14–88:47 |

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Tone and Style

• Breezy, self-deprecating, and delightfully tangential, with philosophical overtones on the incongruities of modern life.
• Wild digressions and playful riffs are celebrated, not shut down.
• Dialogue is peppered with nostalgic references, LA/New York inside jokes, and gentle satire of all things “adulting.”

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Final Memorable Exchange

Bridger:
“I get what I want, listener. The podcast is over. We’re leaving the noise on…But…the audio will end and then you’re gonna freak out. So start preparing. I love you. Goodbye.” (89:41)

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In Summary

This episode delivers warm, weird, and whip-smart riffs on personal insecurity, pop culture minutia, and the daily indignities of adulthood. Kylie Brakeman is a playful and game guest, bringing both surreal humor and relatable anecdotes. The recurring joke of breaking Bridger’s “no gifts” rule grounds the show’s offbeat premise and spotlights the duo’s chemistry. An excellent listen for fans of silly, honest, and digressive conversational comedy.

Recommended for: Listeners who enjoy absurdist, detail-rich banter on the strange rituals and consumer traps of modern life.

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Transcript

[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

Details@lowe's.com Terms subject to change. When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you got it. Come to me empty handed. I said no. Guess your presence is presents enough and I already had too much stuff so how do you dare to survey me?

[Bridger]

Welcome to I said no Gifts. I'm Preacher Weiniger. We're, you know, exploring my life. We're getting into the details. You know, there's a parade of things I go through daily that I'm Just trying to share these different, exciting things with you. I did come to the studio today, and it was entirely empty and started to feel like, why am I not getting the level of attention I need? Is really what I was thinking. So whatever. I ate my cheese. It's starting to feel a little weird. I spit part of it in the garbage can. What else? I've got my drink here. Two nights ago, I got overcharged for a sandwich at a diner. Didn't speak up for myself. There's no turning back. I don't know. I don't know. That's what's going on. My lawn has been torn out of the backyard. That's a big deal. It's a dirt patch, and the dog refuses to use it as a bathroom. Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. I really love her. It's Kylie Brakeman. Kylie, welcome to Icing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Hi. Hi. Hello. And I really. There was something really meditative about all the things you just listed, where I'm like, wow, this could have happened to me. This feels like, yeah, I do eat a bit of cheese, and then sometimes it doesn't feel right. You have to spit it out. I'm certainly never speaking up in a service establishment. After all my years serving in restaurants, I wouldn't dare say a word, right?

[Bridger]

And I was with a friend, and I was like, well, maybe that whatever. The sandwich that she ordered seemed comparable to my sandwich. But I was like, well, maybe hers was, like, $90. And I can't say anything to her about the price of her sandwich.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And then you simply can't say anything. But sometimes, I mean, these places, you add one extra thing, and they're like, well, a side of Prosciutto is simply $12. So we're gonna add that on.

[Bridger]

I don't know what.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You know, it's the last detail.

[Bridger]

I ordered a Reuben and a Diet Coke. And now look, Reubens can get expensive.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They can. Of course.

[Bridger]

They're strangely expensive.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm getting acclimated to the median sandwich price becoming $25. I'm not excited when it's happening, but I'm acclimated. My body temperature is the same.

[Bridger]

It doesn't. I don't think I ever will. And it feels like the price is, you know, every four years, it would go up a little bit. Now it's probably every month. I'm like, oh, well, it's a new product. We're just doubling it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

We're just coming up with new numbers all the time.

[Bridger]

The menus can't keep up.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, no, you gotta keep printing them. That's why they're switching to QR codes. So they can switch. There's a new conspiracy no one's talking about.

[Bridger]

To keep us away from what the prices actually are.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. To make us slide into that dynamic pricing age much faster.

[Bridger]

Yeah, I forgot about dynamic pricing. Wendy's was trying to do dynamic.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I feel like every six months, they're like, dynamic pricing is about to happen. You're about to go to the store and you're gonna make eye contact with the fruit and it's gonna tell you it's $14. It hasn't happened yet, but I'm ready.

[Bridger]

Everything will be like the gas station.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

They're going to have those big things where they have to take the numbers down on the sign daily, sliding them

[Kylie Brakeman]

in, sliding them out.

[Bridger]

That actually doesn't. That's not the worst idea for every business to essentially have a gas station sign where they have to have the employee go take the numbers down every day and let us know what the prices.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. It at least creates a barrier of entry to changing the price. You have to get somebody physically out there to fiddle with the numbers.

[Bridger]

I was just reading about there's a gas station in downtown LA that is charging like $8.50 a gallon for gas. And they're kind of loving it. They're kind of. They're like, this is us.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is our moment in the sun. And what with things being the way they are now we have. Now we can go crazy.

[Bridger]

I think that they're kind of doing it almost to be like a news item because, you know, like, places side of LA will be like, prices of gas in LA are $8 a gallon. And so they sing. They look at this one gas station. These people are loving the spotlight.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They are gonna go absolutely gangbusters on ant Facebook. Exactly.

[Bridger]

It's ant Facebook bait.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It is like, did you see the prices in LA are $8. You have to be careful over there.

[Bridger]

I was thinking, well, I don't have a gas car anymore. But I thought, wouldn't that be a fun novelty to go get a gallon of gas for eight? Do. That would be an interesting little experience.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's kind of fun. It's like paying for a water bottle at Disneyland. Exactly. It's like, oh, well, this is just a fun treat.

[Bridger]

That felt bad.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That felt bad in a novel way.

[Bridger]

Maybe I could go down and just kind of spray a gallon across the parking lot or something. It's my $8. I can do what I Want any way you want. Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I've never held one of those gas cans in my hand before. That would be a novelty. That's interesting.

[Bridger]

When you have one of those in your hand, something's usually gone pretty.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's true.

[Bridger]

It's like I've just hiked back from the highway where the car broke down. Yeah.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You're not taking it as a souvenir or like a fun little.

[Bridger]

No, but I guess you could just get. Does gas expire? Leave some in the fridge?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I don't know. Put some in the yard for later

[Bridger]

or a little treat for later or something. No. I truly haven't pumped gas in such a long time. I wonder if I would be able to do it at this point. I think I would be panicking.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What would you do when you got to the pump? Do you think you'd.

[Bridger]

I think I would be able to handle it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

You know, I think it's a challenge.

[Kylie Brakeman]

How long have you been off gas?

[Bridger]

I think 45 years.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay.

[Bridger]

Five years. I've been caring about what's going on and nobody else does.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Right, Right.

[Bridger]

I've been doing my part.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I don't enjoy caring, and that's the reason why I'm hooked on the stuff, that gasoline.

[Bridger]

You're absolutely addict.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Just love the smell. I do have a hybrid, so I'm doing I care a little bit.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I care a little bit.

[Bridger]

And you've got the. You don't have what Ant Facebook refers to as range anxiety, which is how far your electric car can go.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger]

This is a big thing that I've never experienced, but people tell me I should feel.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, they should.

[Bridger]

I should be worried about how far my car can go.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You should be constantly budgeting how far your car is going to go.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I do think my parents have range anxiety. They have an electric car and they are. I do hear them talking about, okay, well, this many miles, and how are we gonna get there? And does this even make any sense? Should we even go? Oh, no.

[Bridger]

So it sounds like they just don't want to go. This feels like a nice excuse.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Maybe it's a good excuse.

[Bridger]

Right. And I'm just careless. And we'll probably end up in a dangerous situation where I didn't budget the miles, and then all of the range anxiety freaks will be laughing at me.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Their day in the sun will come.

[Bridger]

I'm sure you were in New York recently. What were you doing?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was in new. I went to watch my friend Jeremy on Saturday Night Live. The program snl, snl. As it's vernacularly. No, just go with it. Just go with it.

[Bridger]

You shouldn't have stopped. Now people know.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Now they know. You don't know what you're talking about. No. I got to go. Csnl. And then we got to walk around. It's so cold there.

[Bridger]

It's freezing cold there.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm the first person to say this. It's rather cold.

[Bridger]

Thank you for exposing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's rather cold there. And then to come back here. We're in the middle of a heat wave in last year.

[Bridger]

95 degrees.

[Kylie Brakeman]

95 degrees. That's why I'm doing something I've never done before in my life. I'm podcasting in a dress.

[Bridger]

This is your first time?

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is my first time podcasting in a dress because all I could think about was the heat. But normally I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Let's show respect to the podcasting form. We have to wear pants. But I thought, it's just so hot outside, I might as well.

[Bridger]

That's right. I podcasted in a dress. Well, a dress, a tunic.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You've podcasted in a tunic multiple times. Wow.

[Bridger]

Legs bare.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And did you feel any hesitation about the cameras and the knees?

[Bridger]

This is the only thing that I'm feeling the entire time. That didn't. That took up probably 20% of my brain power, of course. Just low key worrying and wondering, what are people seeing regarding my legs?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And if I just keep. If I. I'm. Yeah. I'm putting a lot of mental stock in how I'm crossing them and what they. Which parts of the knees.

[Bridger]

I would say embrace the thrill.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. It is quite thrilling. I was driving over, going, you know what? I think this is gonna be thrilling, actually.

[Bridger]

What else did you do while you were in New York?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. We got there, we saw the show Putnam County Spelling Bee.

[Bridger]

Oh, how was that?

[Kylie Brakeman]

It was great. It was very funny. And it was guest starring Kevin McHale from Glee, who was great as the. If you're familiar with the show, the guy with the magic foot.

[Bridger]

Okay, this is getting actually more confusing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay, then I won't explain any further.

[Bridger]

The magic foot is someone in Glee or the spelling bee.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, okay. Yes. So valid question. So this is a stock character in Putnam county spelling bee. The stereotype with Glee, it does not have that.

[Bridger]

As far as they don't have anyone with a magic foot.

[Kylie Brakeman]

As far. It's been a minute since I rewatched,

[Bridger]

and it went for a long time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It aired for a long time. And to tell you the truth, I stopped watching after they went to New York. So I don't know what happened after that. It's very possible that somebody had a magic foot.

[Bridger]

They went to New York.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They went to New York. Cause they were. And I will say this was brave. This is something brave that Glee was doing that I'm remembering is that they aged the characters exactly year to year. Oh.

[Bridger]

Kind of real time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. So if I recall, the first season, there were people in their junior year, and the second season, they would go to their senior year. And then in the third season, they would graduate, which is why they went to New York City.

[Bridger]

That's why we saw them all die eventually.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And that's why ultimately we watched them. People age to the grave hit their untimely ends.

[Bridger]

Okay, I'm sorry. They went to New York. Then you. But you also went to New York.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I went to New York as well, so. You know who else was in New York? Me. I went to Putnam County Spelling Bee. It was a great show. It was very fun. And I didn't realize it started as a character show. Like, it started as a sketch comedy show as so.

[Bridger]

Oh, so like multiple people doing spelling bee people.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And that was the original. It was sort of a UCB adjacent type venture. And then someone. Someone Broadway saw it. The Broadway people listening are.

[Bridger]

They're so happy.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm sure you'll get some fact checks. But there was a Broadway man interested in putting songs to this. And here we are today.

[Bridger]

Wow. And you went with our friends Patrick and Angela.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes, yes. Friends of the pod.

[Bridger]

Patrick McDonald's a very big musical theater person.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yes. Yes. And I very much just defaulted to them for any theater. Like, I felt really nervous to send links in the group chat to potential shows we could see.

[Bridger]

Oh, my God. You could really fall on your face in a massive way.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I could Egg on my face. Indeed. Because it was just so, like, it's so high pressure to send it to a musical theater person.

[Bridger]

There's no chance.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

I wouldn't even dare.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare. And so I stayed quiet. And they.

[Bridger]

But that can also read as, like, you're not interested at.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I know. That's the thing in my head, I was like, should I send a link to death becomes her or is that gonna be so beginner? Is that like, is that. What is that? What is that? What kind of Cause I believe it's a very good show, but I don't know what it indicates to any. I don't know. I just don't know the stereotypes of the musical theater community. I don't know what the hot takes are. I don't know what the news is. I don't know what's going on.

[Bridger]

So I'm not on Broadway World.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm not on Broadway World, but I do encounter. I don't know if you're on this algorithm or if you're on a TikTok

[Bridger]

algorithm, but if we can get into mine in a moment. But let's. Let's hear about yours.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay, great. Well, I am. I do every once in a while, get Broadway drama people.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And they're always like, sort of ordinary looking people, like, who I don't think are in the industry. I think they're like, adjacent and they're love it and they're fans and they're always walking down the street in New York in a rush and they're like, I just heard this musical is closing.

[Bridger]

And are they on their way to.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is what? I don't know.

[Bridger]

Follow me into a closing musical.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They really give off the energy of. They have just come from somewhere important. They are on their way to somewhere important. I have just left a closed musical on my way into a new show. And they say it with. And they're delivering it with such urgency, it feels like a bulletin has just been handed me.

[Bridger]

Like, that's how you get viewers.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And so I'm not really familiar with the shows that they're talking about. I haven't, like, seen any clips. I don't, like, know them. But I'm just captivated by the urgency of it.

[Bridger]

Right. That whole world. My boyfriend's in the Broadway world a lot of the time and he's educated me in some about certain things. One thing I learned about is, have you heard, if you want to watch a Broadway bootleg, somebody filmed it. Do you know what they call it? A slime tutorial.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes, Yes. I just heard this, which is so

[Bridger]

odd to me because it seems. Slime tutorial, obviously they've been around for a while now, but they still seem so recent that it's weird that that's the keyword for recording Broadway musicals on a camera.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Like surely we've invented that before.

[Bridger]

Right. That's at least since the 90s. Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And slime tutorials, I thought were like, kind of pandemic, like very recently.

[Bridger]

Right. Within the last 10, 15 years, I would say.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

So how did those two worlds collide?

[Kylie Brakeman]

How did they get together?

[Bridger]

What little freak decided?

[Kylie Brakeman]

What little freak decided? I'm gonna combine my two interests today, and I'm gonna start a movement.

[Bridger]

It's very odd. I mean, there's a whole, like, kind of dark web of getting bootlegs for Broadway musicals. It's a very serious thing, but these people are very serious, and they're rushing to closing shows, I'm sure.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And is it accepted within the Broadway fan community to. At slime tutorials, or is it sort of frowned upon?

[Bridger]

I think that there is. It's a fine line that people walk. I think that, well, it's probably bad for Broadway in some way, but I think if you care enough that you're looking those up, you're probably also wanting to see it live.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's sort of the, like, zoo predicament where, like, I don't love that there are zoos. They don't make me feel amazing. But also, I guess you need to see an animal to inspire the seed of interest that will then lead you to become a biologist or something.

[Bridger]

See, when you said zoo predicament, what I was thinking was, well, the zoos cannot leave my brain up there. Are the zoos worried about pictures and videos of animals online?

[Kylie Brakeman]

We can't leak this zebra footage.

[Bridger]

We've got to get people to the actual zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

We have to paywall. We have to paywall these lions.

[Bridger]

Slime tutorial. Wolf. Gotta see this thing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Gotta get my eyes on this slime tutorial. Spotted leopard. Don't send this. They're gonna take it down.

[Bridger]

And to be totally fair, to me, it makes perfect sense. And I do think the zoo is worried about these videos being online.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It does. Because what. What you say. Do you think the zoo is angry with Animal Planet and Nat Geoff, they're

[Bridger]

circulating all this footage, all this free footage of the animals I know that people should be seeing in person. That's at least according to the zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

According to the zoo.

[Bridger]

They probably also don't like shelters. They don't like people going and seeing free animals there.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Y. The ASPCA and the zoo. Famous enemies.

[Bridger]

Yeah. I think that there's a lot of things going on at the zoo that they've got some concerns about. Of course, I haven't been to a zoo in. I can't remember the last time I was at the zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I haven't been in a very long time. I went. I think I've been, like, twice in the past 10 years. And the most memorable time was going in college when I was doing an acting class where you had to pick an animal and be that animal.

[Bridger]

Oh, no.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Which is, of course, a wonderful Way to spend your money. It's a wonderful way. It's very educational. It's very helpful. Really. It was good. It was good and necessary. But you had to go to the zoo ten times in a semester.

[Bridger]

Ten times. Okay, so they're like. They're obviously, they've teamed up with the zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

My professor was in cahoots with the zoo.

[Bridger]

There's kickbacks from the zoo in that situation.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Absolutely. Kickbacks. Because you. Cause I picked a goat.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I wouldn't say I needed to go more than once. No.

[Bridger]

And you could also go to the farm for that one.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

You could go to the mountains.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Have you. Okay, this is off topic slightly, but I saw a petting zoo recently in a place that I didn't think there

[Bridger]

should be a petting zoo downtown la.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It was the Sweet Green on Sunset Boulevard.

[Bridger]

What was it inside the restaurant?

[Kylie Brakeman]

It was right outside it.

[Bridger]

Oh.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And it was like. It's like busy, but it's a salad restaurant, of course. And they've covered it with like goats and little baby animals.

[Bridger]

And the restaurant's still functioning?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, the restaurant was still going.

[Bridger]

And the petting zoo is by Sweetgreen.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It was. It was like. I can't even express how close it was to Sweet. Like it was on the Sweetgreen property for sure.

[Bridger]

So do we think it was a Sweet Green sponsored petting zoo?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Absolutely.

[Bridger]

What sort of animals did they have?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I remember seeing a goat and a baby, maybe like lamb or something, but definitely like farm animals.

[Bridger]

Which feels it's not where farm animals should be.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It feels absolutely not where they should be. And I haven't heard anyone talk about this. So the second. Thank God I have a microphone in front of me. I've been waiting for a platform.

[Bridger]

Well, I will say, when you said I remember seeing a goat, it sounds like this may not have actually happened. This is some sort of bizarre brain.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This does sound like a dream I had.

[Bridger]

It was like three days ago. And you're saying I remember seeing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, this is something I feel like I can't prove. I've looked it up. I can't find any sort of like Sweet Green X petting zoo collab. Come down to Sunset Boulevard this weekend. Like, there's no advertising for it.

[Bridger]

Fascinating. I wonder what was going on. Were they feeding them salads from the restaurant? That feels like the only reason, the way you would be able to like, kind of justify that.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The most intuitive version of that collaboration.

[Bridger]

I mean, I've said this before, but Sweetgreen has the driest kale in the business. So hopefully they refuse to dare you

[Kylie Brakeman]

to find a drier carrot.

[Bridger]

Ooh, you're choking on that kale.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, it's at least not wet.

[Bridger]

It's not wet. It's certainly not wet.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'll give them that. It is not wet, so I don't have to worry on that front.

[Bridger]

So you went and learned about the goat.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I went and learned about the goat to absorb. And then the ultimate result of all of this that we were working towards was a two hour performance where you performed kind of like a life. Like you just were that goat for two hours.

[Bridger]

It was a one woman show with you as a goat.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Well, it was like a 10 person show.

[Bridger]

Oh.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And we were all the animals. There was no structure. There was no like. And I think only a few people came in to watch it at a time because it was just. You would filter in, you'd go into the lobby of the. The and there'd be a bunch of people going like. And then you'd kind of walk out. You'd probably take pictures of your friend and then you'd leave. Oh, no.

[Bridger]

What an absolute waste of time it was.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And for like the timing of it all to go through all this and then for the industry to sort of just skyrocket. Yes, yes.

[Bridger]

Everyone's kind of drowning in money and the opportunities are everywhere you go.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. Right before the big boom of 2021, the gold rush.

[Bridger]

The gold rush that we're currently in.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. It was a good precursor to the absolute riches we find ourselves in now. And to look back and go, that's what the train we certainly. I mean, if they had even taken a moment to teach us how to upload a YouTube video, I'm sure we'd all be in a different place.

[Bridger]

They must be pivoting to that in some way. Right. These places are like, okay, just turn it to front facing and here's how you upload it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Go to the zoo with a selfie stick.

[Bridger]

You guys. I'm taking you to the zoo. Wow. So you were just. Did you speak as a goat or you were just making goat noises?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I made like some goat noises. Like, And I tried to do it very demure. Very like, very like. I didn't come in with this. This wasn't my. Like, I want it. I.

[Bridger]

And did you have to interact with the other animals?

[Kylie Brakeman]

No.

[Bridger]

Seems like a missed opportunity.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That does seem like a missed opportunity because I. I think we were supposed to just kind of pretend that the others weren't there.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Because I guess what happens when a goat meets a bear?

[Bridger]

Well, see, that's what I want to see.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I do want to. I want to see us work it out.

[Bridger]

I want to see another acting student shred you to pieces.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I want to get literally eaten by a tech student. Just like hitting their acting one requirement. Don't even want to be here. They just want to be on the band saw.

[Bridger]

Wow. That's.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It was crazy. Yeah. And then so. And yeah, it was like a full year of freshman year where we didn't get to do really any scene work.

[Bridger]

Well, you were at the zoo most of the time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I spent all my time at the zoo.

[Bridger]

Wait, what college was this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was at Occidental College.

[Bridger]

Okay, so you were going to the LA Zoo?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was going to the LA Zoo.

[Bridger]

Okay. I've never been to the LA Zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's like, it's. It's good.

[Bridger]

Oh, it's good.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think. I think it's good.

[Bridger]

I'm just picturing so much concrete. I don't love zoos.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's so much concrete. It's very hot. Yeah, it's very hot. I. Yeah, I. I don't go to a lot of zoos, so I can't tell because of my general discomfort with the whole vibe. But the zoo, what should we do about it? Should we do something?

[Bridger]

I think it's time to do something about the zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think we have to do something about the zoo.

[Bridger]

The zoo's complicated though, right? Because I feel like the kind of a good zoo, I suppose that's science based, is probably helping keep certain animals going.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

Or, you know, like endangered species.

[Kylie Brakeman]

How else would the pandas survive? They probably can't, Right?

[Bridger]

The pandas, they need a lot of help.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They need a zoo. The zoo is basically a hotel for.

[Bridger]

That's one animal that probably needs the zoo.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They probably need the zoo.

[Bridger]

I think the last time I was at the zoo was at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I've heard that's a great zoo.

[Bridger]

Well, that's simply not true. The San Diego Safari park is. I essentially had heat stroke there and all. To see half of an animal.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Half of an animal.

[Bridger]

I feel like I saw almost nothing. Maybe a deer. I think I may have seen a deer, but I don't even think it was part of the zoo. I think it may have gotten over the fence. It was so hot that, I mean, literally, I mean, obviously every animal was like, please get me out of this.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah.

[Bridger]

So they found their shade and then it's just my sister and I and my brother in law. Let's not erase him from this.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, we will not be doing brother in law erasure on this podcast.

[Bridger]

Mason was there. We wandered around, just. I was wet. My clothes were wet. And not from like a splash zone. They were wet from my body and it was agony. But maybe that's not the experience of the normal person going to this thing. But you're out in some weird valley in San Diego. It's not comfortable.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, it's really like concrete makes everything difficult. It's so hot and warm. There's something about being really warm on concrete that makes me feel like a six year old and I can't like.

[Bridger]

I wonder what that is.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I don't know what that is.

[Bridger]

I think maybe just a full loss of control and there's nowhere to run. And you just feel like I'm a child and I need help.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes, I'm a child. I need help. I like, smell sunscreen. I'm on my way home from swimming lessons. Maybe it's just like those flash memories.

[Bridger]

Is it the recess element of it being out for recess? Being. What was your school's playground like?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. Lot of concrete. It was Southern California. I do remember it being very hot.

[Bridger]

Yes.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. All right.

[Bridger]

I think we found it already.

[Kylie Brakeman]

We found it already. I think we found it already. I think it's. But yeah, it was like a big spread out. It was a very, like, open, open campus. Everything was outside because we don't have winter, so you just kind of run around. I remember there being something in recess that happened very briefly for a couple weeks where we started to create a sort of trading system. Different kinds of dirt and rocks.

[Bridger]

Okay, sure.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And we started to create our own little, like, economy. Yeah, it was an economy. And then the teachers shut it down

[Bridger]

because it got too powerful.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, our lobby was too powerful. They just didn't enjoy and we weren't doing anything wrong.

[Bridger]

That's very odd. Were they worried your hands were getting dirty?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Maybe.

[Bridger]

That seems like a very healthy thing for kids to be doing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Creating a civilization and a sort of system of government and value and currency.

[Bridger]

Yeah, that seems very. I wonder. There's a darker element to this that these teachers didn't want it happening.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They're like, we can't have you guys discover agency in this way.

[Bridger]

Did you ever get into, like going into the bathroom and playing Bloody Mary or any of these things?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I feel like I remember doing that at like a sleepover.

[Bridger]

Maybe this was something that took our playground by storm. Yeah, you go into the Bathroom, turn off the lights, et cetera.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And was it scary? Did you feel it was scary? Did she ever show up?

[Bridger]

She showed up every time. So it was a little frightening.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I had to be polite and ask. I'm sorry. I'm being rude. Did Bloody Mary ever show up?

[Bridger]

Of course she showed up. That's her thing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Right, Right, right, right, right, right.

[Bridger]

That's her trademark move, is showing up.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Why would I say it if it wasn't true? Why would we do the chant?

[Bridger]

She was there, and she was great.

[Kylie Brakeman]

She was there. She was great.

[Bridger]

You got it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

She was great.

[Bridger]

This gal. I don't remember her ever showing up for me, unfortunately. I do remember the fear.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

I do think it was probably scarier just to go to the bathroom. To go to the bathroom in elementary school because you're like, everyone's. If somebody else comes in here while I'm using the bathroom, they're gonna be rattling the stall or something.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's just so uncertain.

[Bridger]

Terrifying.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You've had so much less experience with the bathroom up until then, and now

[Bridger]

I'm kind of a seasoned bathroom.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Kind of a bathroom vet at this point. There's nothing in there that's gonna surprise me.

[Bridger]

I'm a hobbyist. I get in there. I have the time of my life.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I mean, I'm an amateur. I'm not. I'm not doing it professionally, of course. I'm just simply. It's something I practice, but I have a good time.

[Bridger]

No, but we did play Bloody Mary, and that never got shut down. That never got.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's nice that they let you kind

[Bridger]

of cope with that. Right. We did have one day in fifth grade where my teacher shut class down entirely and told us about the devil.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Wow.

[Bridger]

Told us about how Satan can take over, which is. This was in a public school system, and it was.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This was public. Okay. That was my question.

[Bridger]

So that's an interesting thing to think about.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Did you say, she shut the door or did it.

[Bridger]

She shut the door. She turned off. Did she turn off the lights? That seems like a weird move if you're, like, about to talk about the devil.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I mean, it adds theater, certainly.

[Bridger]

I feel like the lights got dimmed, at least.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

And then she told us about, like, don't use Ouija boards. All sorts of things. The devil will come from.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Whoa.

[Bridger]

This was in Utah. So that kind of explains a little bit of the. But still, this was a public servant.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Now, do you know if this was, like, a speech that she did every year? Was it sort of like a. Like. Okay. Now. Now it's time. You know, this is coming. The devil will come to you through Ouija boards. And this and this and this.

[Bridger]

This is in the syllabus.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Or did she feel like. Did she feel like it was spur of the moment?

[Bridger]

I think it felt a little spur of the moment. We got a lot of spur of the moments from this particular teacher about, like, how. I remember her telling us about how her daughter had been stepping out on her son and had gotten an sti. Whoa. Just things like that.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's really cool. You can't be telling kids that.

[Bridger]

She's warning us, don't step out on your guy.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Don't step out. Don't talk to the devil, and don't step out.

[Bridger]

So it was an interesting education.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, it's an interesting education. I'm sure. I don't know if I ever got, like, a devil talk. I think, like. I think there were some parents who were upset about some plays at times.

[Bridger]

Do you remember what plays they were upset about?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think it was actually before I got. It was in high school. It was before I got there, but it, like, did a brief stint on the national. On the national news, there's always a

[Bridger]

parent mad about the play Bat Boy. Bat Boy. Okay. And that, I assume, is based on the Weekly World News story about Bat Boy. Do you remember the Weekly World News, the black and white tabloid that was like, bat Boy or Hillary Clinton had an alien baby?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah. I mean, something like that. I'm sure. I'm not familiar with the actual.

[Bridger]

It was an excellent piece of the play. Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But it had something to do with, I think, parent. The parents were worried about bestiality or something.

[Bridger]

Oh, interesting.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And so they got the theater shut down, which we love to shut down theater.

[Bridger]

Of course, we're doing it all the.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's really good. It's really good.

[Bridger]

Well, look, I think I've been trying to avoid this topic the entire time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

There's something I do need to bring up, and I'm not comfortable. Kylie, I was looking forward to having you here today.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, and so was I.

[Bridger]

You know I was.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

The podcast is called I said no Gifts, so I kind of hit the roof when I saw you come into the studio holding an obvious gift from.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I mean, I've entered your space.

[Bridger]

You've entered my space.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I would feel insane not bringing something.

[Bridger]

Okay, interesting. Well, I don't believe any of that. Should we open it here on the podcast?

[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

Yeah. This is kind of a, you know, it's like from the world of severance. This is a lumen bag.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

So this is somebody I guess an outie or an innie could use in the world of the show, let's not forget. Yeah.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I wonder if the outies use the merch of the innies job.

[Bridger]

Interesting. That's what they should explore in the next season.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I hope they get into that in season three.

[Bridger]

That should be the whole thing next season when they Release it in 2037.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What do you do about the merch? 2037. I can't wait.

[Bridger]

Countdown. Okay, let me reach in here. Okay, I'm pulling it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

All right. I will say I actually have you have this.

[Bridger]

No, no, I've got all kinds of these.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No way.

[Bridger]

No. I was going to say I have no idea what it is, but then I kind of saw.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So it's a present that must be activated. I will say.

[Bridger]

Let's see.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It is activated with a button. Yes.

[Bridger]

Now, listener, if you're just listening, you're missing out on a huge visual right now. Now, it's a tiny one of the car dealership. What do we call these?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Sort of like a wavy balloon.

[Bridger]

The Wavy man.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And he is inflatable by this battery pack. I believe I won this in a Dave and Busters.

[Bridger]

Wow. This is a good Dave and Busters.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

Listener, can you hear the. We'll probably have to turn this off or I'm gonna get it screamed out. But let's let it run for a moment. It is just low hum for a bit.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It is quite loud if anyone enjoys, like, lawnmower ASMR stuff like that.

[Bridger]

Well, this podcast used to be almost entirely recorded in my backyard. So this is kind of a throwback to all of the things you would hear in my backyard.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah. It's sort of outdoors.

[Bridger]

Right, Right. So, okay, so you got this at a Dave and Buster's. We'll turn it off for a minute.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And the thing about this guy and what. What I hoped would happen when I finally found the battery required to activate this was that he would get some air in him and he'd stay up for a while.

[Bridger]

Sure.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But he deflates as soon as you turn him off.

[Bridger]

Oh, yeah, he falls off. Look at that. And then it's just like, what is this thing?

[Kylie Brakeman]

And then ultimately, what is it?

[Bridger]

This has to go in a drawer at that point. This can't just be out on your counter.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And this was my problem.

[Bridger]

Unless it's on.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Unless it's on.

[Bridger]

But then how long does the battery last?

[Kylie Brakeman]

And I've never run it all the way through.

[Bridger]

This is interesting. It has a little warning on the back that says, not all batteries are created equal.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I've never noticed that.

[Bridger]

Why did they put that on?

[Kylie Brakeman]

And what does it say about. Is it. Please refer to instruction?

[Bridger]

No, I guess it's oh, for. It does say they have recommended brands. Oh, that's such a weird. Why do they care?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Why do they. Maybe they're getting kickbacks.

[Bridger]

Oh, interesting. This is with Duracell. This is with Energizer.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's a classic zoo kickback situation. But with Duracell. Yeah. This is. I don't know if I have the right Battery in there then.

[Bridger]

Oh, you put a new battery in?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I had to buy a battery and

[Bridger]

you had to unscrew it and everything.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I had to do a lot.

[Bridger]

This is more than like replacing a battery on an iPhone.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

It's probably more difficult.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And I think. I think the. Cause I. Yeah, Dave and Busters gave this to me. I believe it's Dave and Busters sans battery.

[Bridger]

Oh, they didn't give you a battery?

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, they didn't. And so I had to go. I had it on my. I remember this was years ago. I had it on my list, on my phone forever, like in my, like, house chores list. Buy double D battery or whatever.

[Bridger]

That's probably not double D. Double D. Yeah. It seems like a crossover.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. I think. I think we're crossing over two worlds.

[Bridger]

You've got double A. AAA.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Sort of a 34. A 34, double B.

[Bridger]

What? I guess there's just a D battery.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Okay. So I would say it's probably a D battery, but those can run you.

[Bridger]

Those aren't cheap. $11 because you can't buy those in like a 30 pack. Like with the small ones, they're like, get like a couple solid battery. Is it the one that you can stick to your tongue? Have you ever done this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

You stick a battery on your tongue?

[Bridger]

You've never heard about this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Wait, is it the little. Like the circular one?

[Bridger]

No, it's the one with the two little things on the top. I think that's a D battery. And if you touch your tongue, it zaps you.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Should we take it out?

[Bridger]

If we had the screwdriver, I would. I absolutely would bust this open.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, I didn't know that.

[Bridger]

What a shame. I could have really zapped myself on camera right now.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That'll some wonderful engagement that.

[Bridger]

This is something I would recommend trying at home.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I might. I mean, with the other battery that I'm sure I have laying around in that pack.

[Bridger]

Get home and zap yourself.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So does it matter which way you put it on or you.

[Bridger]

Because it's the sort of battery that only has one. I don't know what the battery components are. The zapper element that will send the battery juice into the tool. It's like the bottom of it. It's like a square like this. And then at the top are two little.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And are these the plus signs?

[Bridger]

No, that's where. I don't know.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, okay.

[Bridger]

But they're the only part of it that would have electricity coming out of it. So once that touches to the tongue, you're Getting zapped.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

You're having the time of your life. It's a thrill. Your heart's racing.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You're dancing. You're dancing. Never felt so alive.

[Bridger]

That feels like something that you could take to. That should be a new trend of, like, taking those to music festivals and zapping yourself right at the moment.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You could put a tab of acid in your tongue. You could lick a little bit of battery. Have you ever been to Santa Cruz and licked a banana slug?

[Bridger]

The first half of that made sense.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. So this is my friend who grew up in Santa Cruz. This is like, something that the UC Santa Cruz kids do because there's tons of banana slugs there.

[Bridger]

Okay. And this is an actual slug. Slug.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is a literal slug. They're like big, obvious slugs.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But yellow, so they're, like, kind of pretty.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Like, they don't look like a typical, like, slug you find in the dirt. That's.

[Bridger]

Are they like ocean slugs?

[Kylie Brakeman]

They're like forest slugs.

[Bridger]

Okay. Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And they're a little bit poisonous, but not so much that it'll make you sick, just so much that it'll numb your tongue in kind of a fun way. So if you touch your tongue to them, they. You get a little, like, buzz.

[Bridger]

Wow. This makes me feel better about only putting a battery to my tongue.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

Have you done this with the slug?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I did do it.

[Bridger]

And how numb did your tongue get?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Just a tiny bit. I was a little afraid. I didn't go, like, whole. Ha. I also didn't want to invade this animal space.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So I went for a very respectful sort of like, light tap, light tap of the tongue on the slug, and it was just kind of numb in the. The tip.

[Bridger]

And for how long?

[Kylie Brakeman]

For, like, 10 minutes.

[Bridger]

Fascinating.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Maybe I'm overestimating. Maybe, like two minutes.

[Bridger]

So if you were to put your whole tongue to that, there's a chance you would bite your tongue.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You know, I mean, dentists need to know about this.

[Bridger]

Yeah. Dentists should be warned.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Dentists should be warned. Dentists. I'd like to warn dentists.

[Bridger]

Wow. And did it taste gross?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. I don't remember what it tasted like, but it, like. I don't think it was, like, good necessarily, but I.

[Bridger]

It's probably. I would guess my guesses would be salty or, like, kind of funky.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Funky for sure. Probably. It's not, like, really a. But it also didn't taste like much. It was. The main thing I recall is. Is the sort of slug buzz.

[Bridger]

Right. And so you went to Santa Cruz and this just happened to be a thing you did, or was this part of the plan?

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is like, part of the lore that you're supp. And I visited a friend and she's like, this is what we do. This is what we do here. So if you want to do it, you can.

[Bridger]

Wow. And so then did you have to go to the forest to get it, or did she just have one.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You had to go through the forest like you. They're. But they're just kind of everywhere in the forest. They're, like, very easy to find. Weirdly interesting. It's very. It's a beautiful forest. It's like a gorgeous forest.

[Bridger]

Do they have, like, mushrooms growing and you're foraging for things?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think it's a big mushroom town, too.

[Bridger]

See, this is something I would actually like. I've never lived in an environment where. Well, maybe New York, you could probably forage, but you'd have to go outside the city.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

But la. There's no forest that's going to have any real foraging happening, I don't think.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No, no. Where it's multiple. I mean, every once in a while I'll see like, a big mushroom in a random sort of like dirty X tree stump or something, where you're like, something is awry here. This shouldn't be here. It doesn't look happy here.

[Bridger]

Exactly.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Exactly.

[Bridger]

No. I want to go into the forest, find those. Find various berries. And now there's this slug element.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And now there's a slug element for you as well.

[Bridger]

And there was no fear of getting sick?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was afraid of that.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I definitely had that fear.

[Bridger]

Somebody must have gotten sick from that at some point. That's a filthy creature.

[Kylie Brakeman]

There's no way. Nobody has. It certainly felt like a risk.

[Bridger]

Okay. And in Santa Cruz, where they have the little carnival by the ocean. The little fair or the little amusement park.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

Cause I believe when I went there, they had the roller coaster. And its kind of claim to fame is that it was in the Michelle Pfeiffer film Dangerous Minds.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah.

[Bridger]

Did I write it? I can't remember.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That sounds right. I mean, it feels like kind of a. Yeah, it's kind of like a spooky carnival. Sort of like. Not Coney island entirely, but there's vibes of that.

[Bridger]

It's. Anytime you have an old kind of amusement park. Park.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

That Michelle Pfeiffer has used as a

[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

Do you ever get those clips of like fake podcasts that are ads?

[Bridger]

They're ramping up. Yeah, they're really ramping up a lot of the fake ones and now even faker where they're now AI people. So it's like before it was just like well this is certainly not a clip from a real podcast. It's an Actor or whatever.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's like, okay, they're acting it out now. It's just like, have you seen this insurance? Yes, I've seen this insurance. Wait, where do I sign up?

[Bridger]

Where are they sourcing these fake people outside of the AI realm to be like, you reach out to somebody and you're like, will you do a fake? I mean, I think that not only ads at this point, but people are, like, creating. They'll make a phony little podcast studio just to make clips to post to a TikTok that lead, and they don't ever lead back to an actual podcast.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, it's sort of this weird circular industry now where it's all just like imitating a thing that isn't real. That is also. But I don't know where you get these fake people. I'm not sure I get these mass emails sometimes because I've posted on TikTok for years. I was doing that. And so I think I've gotten on this some random track, but it'll be random emails that I can't really pronounce the name of. It'll be a company that's like Kiko or a bunch of Q's and X's, and they're like, we're paying creators $300 to do this script, and then they'll sell their family. It's always like ads for mobile games where it's like the exact same script and they want like 500 different people to do it.

[Bridger]

These mobile games, the money being poured into mobile game ads, it's unbelievable. I've talked about this. Something is afoot. Something's extremely afoot. Because years ago I read that they had the Monopoly goes AD budget was $500 million. That's not an exaggeration. They spent half a billion dollars. Half a billion dollars to advertise Monopoly Go. And I never fall for these games. I know this is pure garbage, but people do. And then I remember a listener reached out and she's like, this is. I'm so ashamed to say my boyfriend found out I had spent $600 on Monopoly Go. So they're bringing. They're. They're hooking people.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What are you spending the money on? Is it just. Well, I guess. I guess it's a money game. So that actually is kind of tricks.

[Bridger]

Yeah, it's like the money. It's almost like an exchange rate. My money goes towards Monopoly bucks probably.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

But most of these games, it's just like the game is horrible and unusable until you start spending money on It.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And it's not even, like, cute.

[Bridger]

No, none of them are cute. It's like garbage. I mean, it's true garbage.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The king is stuck in a tube.

[Bridger]

Can we.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What's this poor king? What's going on with this king? What is his jurisdiction? What country does he rule over? Who am I in this situation?

[Bridger]

Why is he drowning in sewage? It's like he puts himself in such precarious situations.

[Kylie Brakeman]

How does the king get into all this? The king is like Bart Simpson. He is up to no good.

[Bridger]

I just want to see him on his throne and just kind of looking out for his. Yet sometimes, like, he's near spikes. Things are falling on him.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I know.

[Bridger]

And they want me to protect him.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And you'd think with a king game, like, there's like, king things you could do that would be fun to gamify. Like, okay, we're going to sign a treaty. We're going to, like, start a war. If that's fun for some video gamers.

[Bridger]

Yeah, they're like, there are certain, like, escapist elements of being a king in a fantasy land. That makes sense. Jewelry, not being trapped in death traps. You know, like, big moments for while.

[Kylie Brakeman]

God, I wish I were a king. So then I could be stuck in a poop tube. Somebody has to get me out.

[Bridger]

There's that king that I often get confronted by. And then there's this poor gal. She's got all sorts of, like, blemishes and she's out in the cold. She's kind of like a 19th century peasant in Russia somewhere, but she also has zits. And it's like, help change her life. That's. I think that's like, the game is called, like, basically Change.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think I've seen ones like these where it is like, this poor woman is.

[Bridger]

Look at this loser.

[Kylie Brakeman]

My God, she's in a situation and we have to do something about this. A lot of times it's like, okay, and should I have a baby or should I marry the poor man or should I marry the rich man? And it just doesn't seem like there's a whole lot to be doing.

[Bridger]

And then I imagine once you get into the game, it's just candy crushed, but in different colors. Yeah, right. Like, you're not actually helping this gal or this king. You're just matching different colors and then spending your money while your boyfriend doesn't know.

[Kylie Brakeman]

How does this candy crush get this woman out of this situation?

[Bridger]

And meanwhile, there's no class, no game about this, about the middle class, you know, we have the king and then we have this peasant out in the cold.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What about the everyman?

[Bridger]

The middle class is disappearing even in Mobile.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The sort of merchant class. The blacksmith. Yes.

[Bridger]

Somebody with who's like kind of together should also be in life threatening danger.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And we can get him out of stuff. There's. There's no in between these extremes. We're so divided.

[Bridger]

It's the world we live in.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I know.

[Bridger]

I've been watching a lot of garbage on tv. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And the ads I'm serving.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I love Salt Lake City.

[Bridger]

We love our gals in Salt Lake City.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Don't way I'm a little behind. I confess I'm a season behind, but I do love them.

[Bridger]

There are some big. I think some big changes coming. Yeah, I've heard things. I've heard the things I've heard. Whoa.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. Anyway, I'm on the edge of my seat.

[Bridger]

I'm forced to watch this ad for this new thing called Mistplay. Have you heard of Mistplay?

[Kylie Brakeman]

That sounds so familiar. But I couldn't tell you what it is.

[Bridger]

This obvious game scam. But they're trying to tell people it's a job. They say you play the game to make money. And it's just like. It's literally like the ad is this woman who's failing at every other area of her life. She's trying to make money. She finally settles on playing a mobile game to make money. I mean, what are they doing to these people? Like, what dark end is happening with this game?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. We can't. We can't. We've never ever taken the advertising angle of. These are jobs. Yeah.

[Bridger]

Candy Crush is job.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But I have heard these, like, AI women being like, I used to have.

[Bridger]

I, like, I was a peasant in the cold, covered in zits.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was a Russian peasant covered in zits. And now I'm a millionaire. It's so crazy. Like, I make $300 a week playing. Oh, it's solitaire. That's the one that I keep getting. I keep getting these women who are playing solitaire for money as a job.

[Bridger]

Gambling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It is gambling.

[Bridger]

Gambling is a job. That's what they all are, really. They're all essentially just gambling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bridger]

Almost every area of American and probably everyone's life at this point is gambling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's all gambling. Do you like gambling? Have you.

[Bridger]

I hate gambling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I know. I went to Vegas one time and I spent a total of. I gambled $80.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And I was like, oh, yeah. I'll give myself like $100 to just like gamble away and then like, it doesn't matter what happens to it. But they never gave me an ounce of money back.

[Bridger]

Like, I never made anything back.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I never made anything back except for like a dollar here and there. But I never, like, they never hooked me with any amount of money.

[Bridger]

You want a little hook so you're like, oh, it can work.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

You need to know at least once that like, there will be some coming back to you. So then you'll keep doing it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I need like a little bit of an incentive. I need like a 20 or something here and there. But they didn't. They didn't give me any of that. And I was willing to start a gambling problem.

[Bridger]

The casino industry failed.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The casino industry failed me. That night. I felt othered and cast aside unwanted.

[Bridger]

What games were you playing?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I was playing a lot of slot machines.

[Bridger]

Okay. See, this is one that's the only one that I can kind of figure out how to play. And apparently that's the worst one for gambling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Apparently it's not good for actually making money.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And then I played blackjack a couple times with like one of those like hot virtual blackjack dealers where she like, hey, big player, you want to put down a card? And I was just mesmerized by her. But I also don't really know blackjack very well. So I didn't have the confidence to like, fully.

[Bridger]

Right. To show off to the virtual dealer.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. She made me so nervous. No, I. I think I just didn't know how to play. So I didn't make any money. But I. I thought that the slot machines would give me at least something.

[Bridger]

No, I recently was kind of had to gamble and I did slot machine. And I was just like, I don't think I made a cent. And I was. It wasn't even fun. It's just like. Okay. There's no element of this that I'm enjoying. No.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I like the free watery drinks, though. That's kind of cool.

[Bridger]

I didn't even get a free watery drink.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Nobody brought you a free watery drink.

[Bridger]

Oh, this was at the Palm Springs Casino. I think it's a little low rent.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh yeah.

[Bridger]

You know, it's kind of just one medium sized room of sad people. And what I was shocked to learn was I barely knew how to use a slot machine, which feels like there's one step I got to it. I was like, oh my God, this is complicated.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, like, certainly I should be smart enough to use this Thing because they

[Bridger]

don't really have the arm as much anymore. It's more the buttons and the touch screens.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. And there's, like, the doubler and the multiplier and, like, the one X. Like, weird.

[Bridger]

Yeah. All of those little things.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I. I want to pull a lever.

[Bridger]

I don't need to read a book on how to use this thing. No, let me pull it. And then, like, three cherries line up and I'm headed to Maui.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's what I want. I need something tactile, Right? Exactly. Because if it's just on a screen, this is what I don't really. I don't think I could get addicted to mobile sports betting because I'm like. I feel like I want the theater. I want to be at the racetracks.

[Bridger]

That's right. Yeah. It all goes away, and then it is just literally taking your money and there's no other thing about it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

At least in a casino, somebody's breathing smoke down your throat.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. You're like, where does the exit start and end? How did.

[Bridger]

I may be here forever.

[Kylie Brakeman]

How long have I been here? I can't tell where I am.

[Bridger]

My family doesn't know where I am. I've lost service.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No one has heard from me. I'm hungry. I'm drunk. There's, like, stuff going on. There's. There's a bit of glamour to that.

[Bridger]

What casino were you at?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I couldn't tell you.

[Bridger]

Oh, wow.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I mean, they're all. I was in Vegas, and they're all like. They all just kind of blend into each other. It's really hard to tell.

[Bridger]

Mush.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But I liked the. The other parts of Vegas. It kind of feels like you're in, like, a weird sort of, like, European Disneyland. Everyone's open, containering, and, like, it's like a strange playground. I saw the Blue Man Group, and they were phenomenal.

[Bridger]

Are they over now? Did they close it down?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, I think they've closed down a different theater. I think they're still in Vegas.

[Bridger]

Oh, yeah. I think maybe they closed the one in maybe New York, the Village or something.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

I feel like I've walked past a closed Blue Man Group.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You hate to see that. Our nation's Blue Men Group shutting down.

[Bridger]

Well, so you got to see the Blue Man Group and do anything else.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I hung out in the flamingo pool for a while.

[Bridger]

Okay. Very cool. Which.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Which was yuck. And I couldn't. It was where I wish I could, like, turn off my brain and know less things. But my. My. My friend's dad works in the pool industry.

[Bridger]

Oh, okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And he says highest levels of poop are in the Vegas pools. Of. Of any pool in the. In the state.

[Bridger]

I probably could have told you that.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Not the state, the country.

[Bridger]

I don't need a pool PhD to tell you that. Those are just full of absolute garbage, I guess.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is not a revelation.

[Bridger]

I mean, I'm sure the poop is probably the least of your wor of those pools.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah, there's.

[Bridger]

You probably see just blood in those pools.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Filth, really. You really can't look down when you're in.

[Bridger]

Just looking up directly at the sun.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Straight up at the sun. Get heat stroke, three margaritas in. It really is you. You don't feel well the entire time.

[Bridger]

That's kind of the Vegas experience, at least. I can't speak for everyone, of course, some people love the Vegas experience.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

They love the glitz and glam and poop and pools and losing the. And all of those other things for me. Not a place I really need to return to.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No. I think I experienced it, and I'm so grateful for that time.

[Bridger]

I'm slowly starting to feel the pull of the sphere to experience whatever's going on in their wants, probably. And I'll probably hate it, but I would like to see what's happening.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I am all also feeling the pull

[Bridger]

of the sphere right before they close it down and go to a mall or something.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, everyone. I feel like the online narrative of the sphere is like, this is bad. We don't want to go to the sphere. But I keep seeing it.

[Bridger]

I think you get in there and you're having a good time. I'm sure you know. Have you seen the mini sphere here in Burbank?

[Kylie Brakeman]

No.

[Bridger]

They have a sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

We have a sphere.

[Bridger]

It's not public. This is a private sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is a private, private sphere. Who owns the sphere?

[Bridger]

This is the testing sphere. This is, I believe, the sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is the beta company.

[Bridger]

The Beta Sphere. Enter the Beta Sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Enter the Beta sphere.

[Bridger]

Wow, that does feel like kind of. That's. You want to graduate from that into the manosphere. It's probably.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. You start in the beta sphere.

[Bridger]

You want to be part of the beta sphere. That's a sad situation.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You got to get out of there so you could be a big, big, big man who eats protein all day.

[Bridger]

The more I say sphere, the more disoriented I become.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Sphere. It's like ask. It feels very future.

[Bridger]

Yeah. This feels like we're touching something that has not been touched before in the

[Kylie Brakeman]

21st century right now. Like, there is a two in front of all those numbers. Hard two.

[Bridger]

We're not talking about a cubes or blocks or even pyramids.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is ancient history. This is industrial revolution stuff. The sphere is the future.

[Bridger]

And there is a Beta sphere. And I believe they go in there and they try out the things in there.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Whoa. So it's like a NASA sphere.

[Bridger]

Reach out. I guess it's kind of a NASA gravity. You know, I guess it's gravity sort

[Kylie Brakeman]

of simulators, but for. Right. Oh, my gosh. Do you think. So it's not open to the public?

[Bridger]

No, not open to the public. Can't buy tickets.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay.

[Bridger]

I have to assume that they could give us a private tour.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Sphere, reach out sphere. Sphere, reach out sphere. If the AI for the sphere is scanning podcasts, listen to the phrase, I want to go to the sphere.

[Bridger]

I want to try beta sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I would like to try beta sphere

[Bridger]

before graduating to Alpha sphere. And that's the classic Vegas sphere. I wonder. They're probably gonna build a sphere elsewhere, I'm sure.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I mean, if I'm the sphere, I'm putting the sphere in everywhere I can go, every country I can find. I'm putting spheres anywhere they'll let me.

[Bridger]

You're gonna see the sphere. Next time you go to the Burbank Airport or something, keep your eye out for a sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And right next to that Guy Fieri restaurant. And the. Is it an Earth Cafe?

[Bridger]

Oh, do you know what? I hate Earth Cafe.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Wow. I've never had something good from there.

[Bridger]

Not in a million years. I've had a lot of wilted spinach and sunflower seeds and very bad taste in coffee. But it still kind of has maintained some sort of sceneiness to it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think it, like, has some. There's something. There's like, a value to the brand. Like, they've got, like, a good name. Everyone. I think it's one of those things that everybody assumes is good.

[Bridger]

Right. Because it's. You are.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But I've been going there since I was like. It was like a place you'd go.

[Bridger]

It's been around for a while, right?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

And it feels very entourage to me. It feels like the guys would head down to Earth Cafe and yell at a woman or something.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You gotta be. It's a great spot to yell at women. Lots of women there.

[Bridger]

My entire assumption about what Entourage is is guys driving around yelling at women.

[Kylie Brakeman]

If you'd said, what restaurant are the Entourage guys going to? I don't know if I'd say Earth Cafe.

[Bridger]

First, they probably make fun. Within that time period, they probably make fun of somebody going to the Earth Cafe.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, totally.

[Bridger]

A guy goes to the Earth Cafe and they say, what's going on with him?

[Kylie Brakeman]

What's going on here?

[Bridger]

And then they call him a metrosexual.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Lavender latte. Metrosexual.

[Bridger]

We need to get back to calling people metrosexuals.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

What a time period that was.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What a time period. And I remember using the word. I remember using the word in a very nasty way. Yes. And I said it derogatorily.

[Bridger]

Yeah, of course.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Metrosexual, sexual. And it's just guys with scarves.

[Bridger]

Yeah, it was guys with scarves that had more than one ingredient in their coffee. Yeah, you were suddenly you were metro. You were sexual.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You were metro. And boy, were you sexual.

[Bridger]

You were down at what I guess you would go to Forever 21 or what's the other one?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah, Forever 21.

[Bridger]

There's like other cheap.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Not H and M. No, there's the

[Bridger]

one that's kind of like. It feels like this is where you would go for a cheap New Year's Eve outfit.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, my God.

[Bridger]

Forever 21.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Charlotte Russe.

[Bridger]

No, it's for boys and girls.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Boys and girls. Express.

[Bridger]

Express is what I'm looking for.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Express.

[Bridger]

That feels like you would go for a cheap New Year's Eve outfit. Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

If I'm a metrosexual in 2010 and it's new Year's Eve, there's only one place I'm going.

[Bridger]

I've just done finished painting my nails. People are wondering. But the answer is I'm Metro.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm Metro. And the New York Times is banging down my door to write a think piece about me and several other men who look like me. We're all straight, there's not much to say. We wear cardigans.

[Bridger]

Does anyone in the world identify as a metrosexual at this point?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Metrosexuals, we want to hear from you. The Sphere, we want to hear from you.

[Bridger]

The Sphere is overrun with metrosexuals.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's metrosexual night at the Sphere. Come on down.

[Bridger]

Experience metrosexuals like you never have before.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The Sphere is plastered with them.

[Bridger]

I'm gonna ring in the New Year at the Sphere with other metrosexuals.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Me and a bunch of like minded guys.

[Bridger]

Now, a woman could never be a metrosexual.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No. And that's the tragic thing. That's the tragic thing, because car cardigans, I would say, come from Women in general.

[Bridger]

Interesting. I think women need to break that mold.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's okay to say.

[Bridger]

No, it's not.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You can't say anything anymore.

[Bridger]

No, you can't. Except for on this podcast.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is. Thank you for providing me a microphone. Thank God I have this.

[Bridger]

Is there anything left to say about this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I. I mean, it's such a thing to be enjoyed when the noise is going. And maybe perhaps there's other noises happening in the background to mask it.

[Bridger]

It's kind of a white noise machine.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. I bet you could sleep to it.

[Bridger]

Oh, that would be nice. And then wake up and scream when you see this.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. If you're okay with encountering a monster.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This sort of sleep paralysis demon.

[Bridger]

Do you remember what game you played to win this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I don't know, but if I. I mean, when I go to Dave and Buster's, I'm heading straight for the Deal or no Deal game almost every time.

[Bridger]

Interesting.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I really like the Deal or no Deal game. I mean, it is kind of like one of those only virtual things.

[Bridger]

And what are you doing? You're just picking which briefcase?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. You're just picking ladies. And you're going like, okay, number 12. And then she opens it up and then she eats. Either goes like, ooh. Or she goes like, yay. And it's really good. I love those girls.

[Bridger]

Did they ever have bad things come out of the suitcases in the show? Like.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Like bad number. That's such a missed opportunity.

[Bridger]

Time to reboot.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Because it's a suitcase, there should be

[Bridger]

all sorts of horrible things that come out of this.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It shouldn't all be money.

[Bridger]

No.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And then the banker should have to make a calculation with like, okay, well, that one's rats. We know that there's still worms, a million dollars, and $12 left. So I'm gonna go ahead and offer you $10,000.

[Bridger]

That feels like a real new version of the show.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

One of those could have a person who's running out of oxygen.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes.

[Bridger]

Just all kinds of things inside the briefcases.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They could have activated it so much. Well, there was, and I didn't watch it all the way through. Dealer no Deal Island. I don't know if you're familiar.

[Bridger]

Oh, I thought you were going to say dealer no Deal the movie. No, but I hope another unexplored area.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Fingers crossed.

[Bridger]

There was an island.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Deal or no Deal Island.

[Bridger]

And what happened there?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay, so from the pilot episode that I watched, most of you didn't even

[Bridger]

make it through the.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I couldn't follow it. I confess. I couldn't follow it. But they're all on this island. There are models of all genders now. So we're. There's no problem anymore with just pretty ladies holding.

[Bridger]

Right? They're pretty objectifying everybody.

[Kylie Brakeman]

There's pretty guys, pretty cows, ugly guys.

[Bridger]

Ugly cows, of course.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Well, we're not there yet. Everybody's still hot. And they, like, you would have to go running around the island with your team to like, find briefcases. The briefcase. It kind of became more of a like Survivor esque kind of thing. But it's interesting to watch.

[Bridger]

Right? It feels like maybe there were just one too many ingredients.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'd say there's many ideas.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This was an idea for Deal or no Deal Island.

[Bridger]

Interesting. Well, wow.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And I might go. I might tap back in.

[Bridger]

Yeah, I know. I'm like, now what? Where do I finish that Deal or no Deal Island?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Because I just start. Do you watch Survivor? Are you a Survivor?

[Bridger]

On occasion. I've watched a decent chunk of it, especially during the pandemic. I watched a lot of it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. I just started. I had never been on it, but because it's 50, I'm like, I'm swept up in the fervor.

[Bridger]

And so season 50 is happening.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Season 50 is happening. It's like a big event.

[Bridger]

Dearest, congratulations, and forgive me, I've been rude.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Congratulations are in order to Survivor on 50 incredible seasons. But they have all these like, celebrities popping in. There's like the Billie Eilish boomerang idol is being hidden all over the island.

[Bridger]

And then she's like, with the boomerang,

[Kylie Brakeman]

she is nowhere to be found. Oh, but she left a note on the Idol And I'm still like getting used to Survivor culture. I kind of thought that Billie Eilish would show up. I in my TV literacy, like, expectation, I saw them unwrap the Billie Eilish boomerang Idol. Read the little note, being like, hi, I'm Billie Eilish and this is the Boomerang Idol. And I'm like, okay, cool. So at the end of the episode she'll show up.

[Bridger]

But really stupid of you, I know, to think that a celebrity's name would lead to the celebrity being on the show.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I know, I feel led, but maybe we're saving him for the finale.

[Bridger]

I don't trust sitting. She's circling the island in a helicopter.

[Kylie Brakeman]

She's waiting for just the right time, just for the stakes to get high enough and then she'll drop down. But Survivor's very. It's a very interesting show. So it's sparked kind of a like, okay, maybe I'll go back to Deal or no Deal Island.

[Bridger]

Right. My problem with Survivor is there are no briefcases. So this is kind of the perfect solve for that.

[Kylie Brakeman]

If these two shows would just talk to each other, get some sort of

[Bridger]

luggage or something you could take to the office.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What are you gonna do with all those totems when you go home? How are you gonna get them there? Give these people a briefcase.

[Bridger]

It's an easy solution to an obvious problem.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

Well, I think we should play a game.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay.

[Bridger]

Deal or no Deal's got me in the mood.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, yeah.

[Bridger]

Well, we're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. I need a number between one and 10 from you.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Seven.

[Bridger]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote. Do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. Hi, everybody. Hello, listeners. This is Kylie. I am the person who's been on this podcast since then. I have a podcast as well that Bridger's been on that is called Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists. It's an improvised Hollywood roundtable podcast where we play different characters every time. And then I also have a live show at the Elysian that I don't remember the date of, but you can follow me on Instagram and I will provide that information willingly. And when I have it, in terms of other things I can recommend, I am watching season 10 of Love is Blind, although I now realize I am a few weeks behind.

[Bridger]

Ohio.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Ohio.

[Bridger]

It's the only season I've ever watched.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, I mean, they're all kind of like this.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They all hit the same, like, decibel.

[Bridger]

Okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'd say every city, like, they are different from each other, but it's like. It's all kind of the same size of city and, like, type of person.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Everybody looks similar.

[Bridger]

That makes sense.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But I'm. I'm still gobbling it up.

[Bridger]

I had an excellent time watching it. Where are you in the show?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think I'm only. I haven't gotten to. We haven't gone to Mexico yet.

[Bridger]

Oh, okay.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So I'm still early.

[Bridger]

Got a lot, a lot ahead of you.

[Kylie Brakeman]

There's a lot to go.

[Bridger]

Yeah. There's some revelations, there's some behavior. So just brace yourself.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. I'm getting ready.

[Bridger]

Brace yourself. In the reunion, I mean, I've never seen a reunion special like this. This felt like they really. It was really. I mean, the culture has become entirely Jerry Springer at this Point.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. Yes, yes.

[Bridger]

Maybe beyond Jerry Springer.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

So crazy.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Jerry Springer planted a seed that we

[Bridger]

are now seeing harvesting over and over.

[Kylie Brakeman]

We continue to harvest. Yes.

[Bridger]

Everyone. Yes. Go find everything that Kiley is involved with. It's all wonderful and wonderful. Let's play the game. This is how we play. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. Then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. There are correct answers. You can fail. You can win big. You can get an in between, I suppose. All right. These are all suggestions from our Patreon listeners today. This first one is from Rick. Gift or a curse? Referring to your personal life as behind the scenes.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. This is. Okay. That. And. And would I like to receive this as a gift?

[Bridger]

No. It. The concept. Do you think it is okay? Yeah.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Is that. I think that's a gift. I think that provides sort of like a theatricality to your life that enables you to continue making big, bold choices in your life. If you feel you are the star of a show, you might act accordingly. If you feel there's some stakes and some drama to it.

[Bridger]

Correct. Gift. Oh, that's a gift. That's a little taste of Hollywood.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

Have the self respect to think that you are the protagonist.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

That everybody's watching you and they want to know what's happening behind the scenes.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

They want that BTS footage.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You have to live as though you are the star. Yes. And not the star's accountant or whatnot.

[Bridger]

Everyone at the office should be hearing about your behind the scenes.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. I need to tell you about my behind the scenes.

[Bridger]

I keep that behind the scenes. So that's a gift. That's a gift you can give yourself and everyone else in your life. Okay. This next one is from Lorraine. Gift or a curse? Bruises.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Bruises.

[Bridger]

Bruises.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Curse.

[Bridger]

Why?

[Kylie Brakeman]

I always hit my leg in the dang night, and I don't know how it's happening, but I wake up. I have. And you might even be able to see it because I'm podcasting in a

[Bridger]

dress, for God's sake.

[Kylie Brakeman]

For God's sake. But I feel like I'm constantly covered in bruises. I feel like this is nothing but a curse.

[Bridger]

Mm.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Am I wrong?

[Bridger]

Wrong? No. This is a gift.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay.

[Bridger]

This is a color that we don't see often. This is a little thing that you get to just kind of. Your body gets to explore a new color for a period. And it's a reminder of the mistakes you make.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So true. I forgot about art. The blue period.

[Bridger]

Yes, exactly. And it's like, well, you caused it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

You're to blame for the bruise. And so why not live with it for a few days? Put a dress on, go out, let people know I kicked something in the night. I can't be trusted to sleep in a bit.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I can't be trusted.

[Bridger]

Bruise is. It's a badge of honor that nature provides. And it's a lesson. It's ultimately a lesson. So you got that wrong. Now, finally. This is from a listener named Grace. Gift or a curse? Garbage. Garbage day.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Garbage day is. I mean, I think it's a gift. Yeah, that's a gift. Society takes away the garbage for you, and I think that's nice. It's nice that someone comes along and relieves you of your mess. It's nice, and it's the mark of a civilized society. I think. So I would say. I would say gift.

[Bridger]

Well, you're wrong. That's a curse.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I knew I would be.

[Bridger]

Garbage day is a curse. They're taking away my things. They're taking my things. And it's noisy. What's good about any of that? I think that's bad. Garbage day is a curse.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Your things.

[Bridger]

My things are being cursed.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Your wrappers. Your precious wrappers and boxes.

[Bridger]

Not my things.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Not my things.

[Bridger]

Stop taking my things.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You're taking my things.

[Bridger]

He took my things. Chasing the garbage truck.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Hey, you took my things.

[Bridger]

Do they let garbage trucks on the freeway? That feels like. That shouldn't be able to go that fast.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think I saw one on the freeway recently, and it was going quite slow.

[Bridger]

Oh, interesting. Yeah, because it shouldn't.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It doesn't feel like an intuitive spot for them to be.

[Bridger]

Like, a garbage truck should not be going 85. No. That feels bad.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Garbage truck. Shouldn't be gunning it.

[Bridger]

What a feeling. What a feeling that would be to

[Kylie Brakeman]

just race into the dump.

[Bridger]

Gotta get to the top.

[Kylie Brakeman]

100 miles an hour. Flying down the carpool lane. I gotta get to the dump. Where do you gotta be? Where on earth do you have to be so bad?

[Bridger]

Looking at your watch.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, my God. I'm late for the dump. Guys at the dump are gonna be furious.

[Bridger]

If I'm late to the dump one more time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They're not gonna let me pick up any more trash.

[Bridger]

It's just rude. It's just rude. Yeah, you gotta get to the dump on time. Well, you got one out of three.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Hey, that's. If this was a baseball stat, that'd be a. That'd be A bad batting average of.333.

[Bridger]

Is that good?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Which is good.

[Bridger]

How does that, how does that math.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Can you believe that? That's good.

[Bridger]

One out of three.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's actually an incredible batting average because

[Bridger]

it's usually like point.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. You hit like one out of every eight, six or.

[Bridger]

Okay, so you're never one out of three. Yeah. Big chunk of the pie.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's a big chunk of the pie.

[Bridger]

And they're that bad at hitting the ball. Wow. Interesting.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It's really a pitcher's game.

[Bridger]

Interesting. Batters have got to get better at the game.

[Kylie Brakeman]

They do.

[Bridger]

I've never hit a baseball. You've never hit a baseball once in my life.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bridger]

And I think I've tried to get you out there. Not hard. But you know, as a child you're exposed to baseball.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

My batting average is. It's not too.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I played good softball for 10 years. But all through the child part before you become like, it becomes actually competitive.

[Bridger]

Oh, okay, sure.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And I barely ever hit the ball. It's very, very difficult.

[Bridger]

Well, it's scary difficult.

[Kylie Brakeman]

And it's scary. It's coming at you very fast.

[Bridger]

I don't like that feeling.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No.

[Bridger]

I shouldn't have to hit things away from me.

[Kylie Brakeman]

No. And I always hit very defensively. Like scream. No.

[Bridger]

Okay, well, let's answer a listener question. People are writing into I saidnogiftsmail.com or they're sending voice notes at. Will you help me answer one of these?

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

It says, dear Bridger and Guest. That's very cold.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay.

[Bridger]

I want to give a present to my 58. Oh, I want to give a present to my 58 year old sugar daddy. He basically funds my life and I'd love to show him my appreciation,

[Kylie Brakeman]

but

[Bridger]

I don't know if it would be weird. Basically using his own money to buy him a gift. He loves dogs, cooking, travel and spending money, money and spending money on young women. And that's from Sabrina. Sabrina. I'm sorry, my apologies. I'm trying to show this email the respect it deserves.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of course.

[Bridger]

This is serious. This is real. What does Sabrina get her Sugar Daddy? He's 58. Wow. He,

[Kylie Brakeman]

he loves. So what does he love again? He loves, I mean, I heard other than the obvious, spending money on young women.

[Bridger]

He loves dogs cooking, travel.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Dogs cooking, travel.

[Bridger]

Yes.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay. Wow. This is sort of a like I cut off my hair to buy you jewels, but you got a comb.

[Bridger]

The gift of the Magi.

[Kylie Brakeman]

The gift of the Magi.

[Bridger]

This is a classic Gift of the mag.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Classic Gift of the magi. Because the thing he wants most of all is to spend money on you.

[Bridger]

Right. But if she spends it all on him, he won't be able to spend it on her.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

There's math here and I'm playing a dangerous game.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is a dangerous game. Oh, my gosh. I mean, okay, but he loves that

[Bridger]

she's spending the money or that his money's being spent.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. So I guess you could buy yourself like an expensive piece of jewelry.

[Bridger]

Oh, that's nice.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'm sure he would like to know, know that that's happening. Or you could buy. I wonder if he has multiple. I, I, I don't know if this is a monogamous sugar daddy situation or if he has lots of.

[Bridger]

Sugar daddy of six.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, he's a sugar daddy of six.

[Bridger]

Sugar father.

[Kylie Brakeman]

A sugar father. You know, he has to put food on the table. There's six beautiful women who all need a bag.

[Bridger]

I have six beautiful 22 year olds who depend on me.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Oh, my girls, my girls, my girls need me. Yeah. I'm like, would you get a. Okay. He loves spending money on young women. But, but it is his money.

[Bridger]

It is.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is a brain puzzle. Because I'm like, oh, maybe she could give him some money to spend on another sugar baby. But I don't, I don't know if that's the point. Maybe this is a one on one sugar daddy relationship.

[Bridger]

I can only assume that it is.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah. This is an sat. This is a logic problem. It's his money. So maybe you have to give him something that money can't buy.

[Bridger]

Oh, see, but I think that's going to make him mad. He's going to be so mad that his money didn't fucking craft. You make this.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But then, you know, maybe he has a community of sugar daddies that he can like, bring. Okay. Yeah. My sugar baby made me this friendship bracelet. She made me this mug that might be kind of nice.

[Bridger]

Right, Right. So maybe that's a. And maybe their relationship's getting boring. It's a little like. Yeah, I know. You're spending your money on me. You love doing it. I'm bringing in a free element. I made this with crap I found around the house. It's a picture of us.

[Kylie Brakeman]

To show my appreciation, I made you a macaroni frame.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Of us at Nobu. I can only assume. Yeah. I mean, okay, okay. If he is just giving. If it is, maybe I'll just show him something nice. Maybe you buy a trip. It depends on how much money he's giving you.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

But if you buy. For the two of you to take on together.

[Bridger]

Right.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Well, that feels like something he should be doing.

[Bridger]

Right. That's what he loves.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Okay, so maybe you can get him, like, a gift from the airport.

[Bridger]

Maybe something that would make him happy, which would be free for her, is to get really demanding. Even more demanding and screaming and wanting, you know, even more than she already may be because he wants to give

[Kylie Brakeman]

me more money for this.

[Bridger]

Right. Start making demands. Threats. Maybe there aren't enough threats in the relationship. Yes, I'll leave.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Give me money where I walk.

[Bridger]

I'll tell your wife.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'll tell your wife.

[Bridger]

I'll crash your car.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I'll crash your car. I'll twist your watch up.

[Bridger]

I'll. I'll break glass in the pool. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

[Kylie Brakeman]

That's a good threat.

[Bridger]

It's a big threat that you could do to a sugar daddy.

[Kylie Brakeman]

It could be a big problem for him. Yes, big problem. Huge.

[Bridger]

And it's gonna cost him a. Yeah,

[Kylie Brakeman]

well, is there a night? I assume. I assume the appeal of having a sugar baby is like, I'm stepping out on the town. I'm 58. She's 22. Here we go. Look at me. I'm. Here I am, you know, sort of arriving. Sort of like he's a. This is his version of being a debutante.

[Bridger]

Totally.

[Kylie Brakeman]

So maybe it's like a concert or something that he might enjoy that other men might be around so that he can go, look at me. Look at this. Can you believe this? What a. What a gal.

[Bridger]

A trip to the sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

A trip to the Sphere.

[Bridger]

A trip to the sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

A trip to the sphere for some

[Bridger]

sugar daddy daughter.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Grateful Dead.

[Bridger]

Oh, that's perfect.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Something of that nature. 58. Somewhere around there.

[Bridger]

Probably leaning fish at this point.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Fish. Oh, sugar daddy's love dad is. I assume. I assume, take him to the Sphere.

[Bridger]

Or if he's got the bucks and the access, take him to the Beta Sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger]

A private evening at the Beta Sphere.

[Kylie Brakeman]

What could be better? A private evening at the Betasphere with my sugar daddy and his six beautiful sugar babies. My sugar sisters, if you will.

[Bridger]

I think we answered the question perfectly.

[Kylie Brakeman]

I think so.

[Bridger]

Don't write back in. Go enjoy the Beta sphere and your sugar daddy. They're probably listening to the podcast now out on the boat.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yeah.

[Bridger]

He's wondering, what is this?

[Kylie Brakeman]

What is all this?

[Bridger]

You're turning to a podcast for help?

[Kylie Brakeman]

You keep me young is what he's saying.

[Bridger]

Gen Z. Oh, Gen Z. You kids.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You kids today.

[Bridger]

Well, we answered the question perfectly. I now have my tool.

[Kylie Brakeman]

This is a tool. Yes. It's a tool for sleeping. It's a tool for whimsy.

[Bridger]

Whimsy. It's a tool to sell cars.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Yes. You can sell tiny cars with it. You could create a whole little car dealership. If anyone ever gives you Hot Wheels, you can have like a full setup.

[Bridger]

If this was like a path to. Towards something that's wrong with me. I've had such a wonderful time, Kylie. Thank you.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Had a lovely time. I'm sorry for disobeying you.

[Bridger]

Thank you. That's kind of what I've been fishing for this entire time.

[Kylie Brakeman]

Well, you got it.

[Bridger]

I got it.

[Kylie Brakeman]

You got it.

[Bridger]

I get what I want, listener. The podcast is over. We're leaving the noise on. But the. You're gonna have to get your own white noise very soon because the audio will end and then you're gonna freak out. So start preparing. I love you. Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

[Kylie Brakeman]

When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no. Guess your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me? We have all been duped by the so called better for you ice cream options. They claim to be just as delicious as regular ice cream, but it's really

[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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[Kylie Brakeman]

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[Bridger]

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