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Bridger Weiniger
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Host of 'I Said No Gifts' (possibly Bridger Weiniger's podcast intro/outro)
When I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you got to come to me empty handed. I said no gifts. Your presence is present enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?
Bridger Weiniger
Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're in the podcast. I'm just kind of accessing the podcast world right now and I'm. I'm stepping in. There's something new and fresh about it for me, even after six years, today feels different. Well, I've used two public restrooms so far today, but we've only just begun. God knows how many I'll be all over town. So that's happened today. Yesterday was the big thing. I took the dog to get spayed yesterday. So I mean, obviously my dreams of opening a puppy mill are dashed again. I keep getting in my own way. When people talk about getting in your own way, this is what they're talking about. Getting your dog Spayed when you want to be just breeding puppies to sell to people who drive Land Rovers. Is Land Rover or Range Rover? Are they both for assholes? I can't remember. And my apologies to anyone in those car. Maybe you're barely scraping by and all you could buy was a Range Rover. I get it. Now that I've alienated anyone with a large income, this is, again, getting in your own way. That's actually a good example of me getting in my own way. I'm obviously in a flow state. I'm in an absolute flow state. I'm making zero mistakes. Let's keep it going. Let's talk about Patreon. The show is still on Patreon, despite everybody trying to tear me down. Come join us. You can listen to more of this podcast, but it's me recording it in the backyard, kind of like the old days. I'm also recapping Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which is. And, oh, all of our live shows are there to watch as well. I mean, that's just. We're barely scraping the surface. I didn't even mention the sleep tape I created that everyone loved. I think I've gone too far. This all started with two public restrooms. Let's get into the podcast. I. Oh, my God. I love today's guest. It's Martha Kelly. Martha, welcome to. I said no gifts.
Martha Kelly
Thank you, Bridger. It's great to be here.
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like I kind of. I started something there and then just. I feel like I took more time than usual and I apologize.
Martha Kelly
No, I am thrilled because now, as soon as I get home today, I'm gonna subscribe to your Patreon.
Bridger Weiniger
This was really targeting you, and I'm so excited.
Martha Kelly
I love when people I'm a fan of have Patreons, and a lot of people do, but not everyone. So I'm thrilled. You should have a Patreon just for. I don't have a podcast, but, yeah, I'm gonna start a Patreon.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, what you're doing on TikTok should be, I would pay for what you do on TikTok.
Martha Kelly
I
Bridger Weiniger
don't. Don't be modest about this. It's so good.
Martha Kelly
Thanks, Bridget. The way I think of it is one of my favorite expressions that I've seen from a lot of people I follow on social media, which is when someone is singing terribly or causing any kind of loud ruckus, they just refer to it as hootin and hollerin'. And I feel like that Is what my TikTok mostly is.
Bridger Weiniger
Hootin and hollerin'.
Martha Kelly
It's me hootin and hollerin'.
Bridger Weiniger
It's very good. And it's like, it's such a cure to what else is going on on TikTok, which is very quick cuts. And all this. This is just you talking and you giving us everything you wanna give us. No apologies.
Martha Kelly
You don't know how many times I've said to myself, how about putting some more effort into this so that it is like those successful TikToks that are quick cuts, written out ahead of time, well edited, fast paced. I say to myself, why not try that? That seems to work for people.
Bridger Weiniger
That would be so alarming. I would feel so betrayed by you.
Martha Kelly
Okay. I'll never do it.
Bridger Weiniger
And you are using one piece of technology in your TikToks, which is, I think, extremely valuable, which is Republican woman makeup.
Martha Kelly
Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
Which is kind of a filter.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And how did you find that filter?
Martha Kelly
I think that I just saw maybe like a year ago, I saw someone using it. There's a person I follow named Suzanne Lambert.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
And she kind of. When I first started seeing her TikToks, she would be doing makeup tutorials for how to do Republican woman makeup. And it was making fun of how overdone they are. And then some people started using the Republican woman makeup filter to be like, wow, this is what I would look like with that. And then I was like, I kind of love that when I'm not wearing makeup and I don't want to be on camera. Instead of using a filter that makes me look pretty in a way that people would be disappointed to find that I'm not in person. Just slap on Republican woman makeup filter, and then no one's gonna be like, oh, wow, your nose isn't pointy and your lips aren't full. They're gonna be like, wow. Well, I'm glad that you're not garishly made up.
Bridger Weiniger
I would love to run into you just at the store in a full face of Republican woman makeup.
Martha Kelly
Well, I would have to have fake eyelashes to make. But also the filter. I mean, in a way, it does still falsely improve your looks because it does make my eyes look more youthful by not tilting down, but tilting up like, it's still interesting. So even if I tried to recreate it, I wouldn't look like the filter.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. I should try the Republican woman makeup just in my personal time. My private use, for private fun. Have you ever worn fake eyelashes?
Martha Kelly
Yeah, but only in Like Hollywood situations. And I don't want to because I don't want to. I don't want there to be an even bigger gap between what I see when I wake up in the morning in the mirror and what I look like when I'm out in the world. Because then if I. And this is never gonna happen. But if I ever tried dating again and slept with a man, I wouldn't want it to be like, have you seen Martha? Because you're not her. You don't look like the woman I went to bed with. Like, fake eyelashes are a bridge too far.
Bridger Weiniger
I think they are for almost anybody.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. But although there are some that you can get that are little, like, tiny pieces that are just, like, two or three individual lashes you can put on. Someone did that to me a week ago for a marketing thing for Euphoria, and that was kind of fun. But I just don't want people to be disappointed when they see me in person. I'd rather they go, wow, you're not. You. Actually, you don't look that bad in person.
Bridger Weiniger
No one has ever thought that about you.
Martha Kelly
I don't.
Bridger Weiniger
God, give me. You're adorable. I would say you're an adorable person.
Martha Kelly
Well, I feel the same way about you, Bridget.
Bridger Weiniger
She's two real cute people.
Martha Kelly
We're just out here being cuties. Why did a lady in a grocery store years ago when Baskets was on said, Came up to me and said, hey, you're on Baskets, right? And I said, yeah. And she goes, I'm so happy to see you look so good in person. And I just feel so much better. Cause I was worried about you
Bridger Weiniger
because of the way your character looks in Baskets.
Martha Kelly
I think so. And just like, I think part of that character was that she is a little bit of a sad sack in a way.
Bridger Weiniger
She has, like, a broken arm for good period of time. Right.
Martha Kelly
A broken arm. And wears long church lady dresses even though she doesn't go to church. And is kind of Zach's characters not punching bag, but kind of like, I always thought they were like Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLuise. And my character was the Dom DeLuise character. So I think maybe people felt empathy for that character, but maybe also a little bit like, can somebody help this lady?
Bridger Weiniger
Well, she's got. She's the better of the two as far as people go. He's kind of a dirtbag loser.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. It's funny, though, because I don't think that I even really registered that because I love Zach so much, and making the show was Just hanging out with one of the most fun people you could ever hang out with.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
So I didn't think of Chip as being as terrible of a person as he clearly is written to be.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure. Right. I had a weird. I don't think I've talked about this on this podcast, but I was at a restaurant in Silver Lake, just like a little fast food place a few months ago, and out of the corner of my eye saw this man with a child. And it's like, oh, God, look at this Silver Lake dad, who's this jerk? And I kept looking over, making eye contact with him. And the third time I was like, oh, no, that's Zach Kalifanakis. I felt so stupid, but I think he's kind of the prototype of that sort of look. So he. Yeah, he shouldn't be blamed for having a beard and like kind of just being a scruffy guy.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But at the time I was just like, oh, look who's cool. The most uncomfortable eye contact. The third time is like, oh, no, this is shameful. He's just having a nice night with his kid. And here I am. Oh, terrible. Absolutely terrible. You hear the phrase vibe coding and might naturally assume the worst. But it turns out to be a genuinely useful tool for building a website. And with WIX Harmony, you can build a site quickly while still making it your own. WIX has introduced Wix Harmony, a vibe coder for websites that lets you type what you want and generate a site ready to use right away, complete with forms, payments, security and more built in. As you create business, power gets wired in. Wix will set everything up so that it's ready to go from day one and you can focus on doing your thing. And WIX Harmony doesn't require AI for everything. You can still click and edit anything manually or select an element and have Aria, your AI agent, make updates for you. It's a smart solution to the frustration of repeatedly prompting AI just to make small changes. Try it for free@wix.com Harmony that's wix.com Harmony.
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Bridger Weiniger
the last time you were on the podcast was over Zoom, which was years and years ago and you gave me. You helped me adopt a gorilla.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I checked into the gorilla recently and it seems to be doing fine.
Martha Kelly
Okay, good.
Bridger Weiniger
It seems like a lot of people have adopted it.
Martha Kelly
Oh really?
Bridger Weiniger
So, yeah, all kinds of people have adopted this gorilla, so I think it's okay.
Martha Kelly
Are you gonna sue for custody?
Bridger Weiniger
That's kind of where I'm headed here, where I'm like, this is going to be a bitter custody battle. I will get sole custody and to the point that the gorilla will be mad at me. You know, sort of thing where it's like, well, I still want to see mom and he is, no, no, no, no. You're mine and this is a better situation. I fought for you, but I think it's out there. It's having a wonderful life and good. I don't know.
Martha Kelly
I love Gorillaz, but I can't fully even look at the emails from them anymore from that organization because. Because they're too. The pathos of a gorilla. I can't handle it.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. If you have some level of empathy or sympathy for these gorillas, you will just. It will be a money pit.
Martha Kelly
Even if they're just Even if it's just like, look at this newborn baby gorilla with his loving gorilla family. And they're all doing great. You look at their faces and it hurts. They're so cute.
Bridger Weiniger
And they have just like always a natural, like slight melancholy to them.
Martha Kelly
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
They're kind of built to exploit humans, financial situations.
Martha Kelly
You know, now that we're talking about it, we should get a gorilla and make some money.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm fighting for custody of one. Why do you think I'm trying to get control of this thing? It's my plan B is having a gorilla.
Martha Kelly
We gotta do it.
Bridger Weiniger
What have you been up to? What's new?
Martha Kelly
What is new? Well, I'm going on a storm chasing tour in June.
Bridger Weiniger
What?
Martha Kelly
Well, there's companies that do professional storm chasing tours. Like if you went on an elder. My parents used to do this like an elder hostel tour of Japan or something. I mean, not nearly. I'm sure it won't be anything like that in terms of they were staying at nice places and being shown wonderful times and relaxing. Relaxing Luxury accommodations and transportation. This is just a company where it's like six to eight people in a van.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
And then, I mean like probably six paying guests and then the staff, which will be professional meteorologists and people who've been doing this for years.
Bridger Weiniger
All right.
Martha Kelly
They go all over the country. Not all over the country, all over. Tornado Alley.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
And then you just, you start some places, start in Oklahoma, some start in Colorado, and then you ride in a van for a week and chase storms. You don't get close enough to ever be in danger.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Who's the judge of that?
Martha Kelly
Well, so we're going through the Great Plains and so you can see a storm from a safe distance when everything's flat. That's my understanding.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
But I'll be honest, I don't care if I do get carried away by a twin. Why not?
Bridger Weiniger
What's the worst that could happen?
Martha Kelly
They pick you up, they set you down somewhere. Interesting. Why not?
Bridger Weiniger
Certainly people have been mildly sucked up by tornadoes before and survived.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. But I think, I mean, sadly, I think normally if the tornado is powerful enough to lift you up, you're not coming out of it in good shape.
Bridger Weiniger
You're not going to be the same after.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And most likely not the same in the sense of not being alive.
Bridger Weiniger
Have you seen a tornado in person before?
Martha Kelly
No, I saw a rotating cloud once in Austin.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
That's the closest I've gotten. But it was a fast moving thunderstorm, so it was like clouds going over Me kind of fast and one of them going like this but not coming down. Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
That's frightening, though.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, it was. It was thrilling and frightening.
Bridger Weiniger
Did you feel like it was going to become a tornado and then seek shelter, or was everybody like, oh, that's fine?
Martha Kelly
I wasn't worried about it because it was moving away from me so quickly. I figured if it did turn into a tornado, I wouldn't. It's somebody else's problem.
Bridger Weiniger
What sparked this interest for you?
Martha Kelly
I've loved thunderstorms, literally, since being a baby. There is a story my parents would tell that we went to my mom's from East Texas, so my brother's a year and a half older than me and my twin sister, so we're all babies at one point.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow, that's a lot.
Martha Kelly
So much from my mom, God bless her. We drive to East Texas, we get there at night, and it's a thunderstorm. And they can't bring all three babies inside at once. They can bring at most two of us because there's two of them.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
And they didn't want to leave one baby alone in a thunderstorm, so they left me and my sister in the car, took my brother in, came to get us, and when they opened the car door, we were laughing hysterically at the thunder. I don't remember that. I just remember hearing that story more than a couple times.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's incredible.
Martha Kelly
And I do love thunderstorms. And then the movie Twister really, of course, made me feel like I gotta get out there.
Bridger Weiniger
It'd be a fun. I've never. Well, let's see. No, I've never seen one in person. I feel like that would be exciting.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, I think it would be exciting if it's. Especially if it's not coming at you.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? Yeah. You're in a van on tour. Yeah, Just kind of taking a peek.
Martha Kelly
And then I think it'll be an adventure to meet a little group of strangers and travel together.
Bridger Weiniger
Have you been on a tour like this before?
Martha Kelly
No. I have a friend who did the same tour with the same company because they have, like. I think they have, like, 10 per season starting in April and going through July.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
And they go to different regions depending on which tour it is and what month it is. And so she went on the same one. I'm going on the same week, the same travel path, which will be through Wyoming, I think, Montana and the Dakotas, both the dictators.
Bridger Weiniger
That's going to be disappointing.
Martha Kelly
I've never been to the Dakotas, and I'm kind of excited to see the. I just love open country and being a passenger, not a driver.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. I just feel like Wyoming doesn't feel like tornado or storm country to me.
Martha Kelly
Maybe we're not going through there. Cause it's like I'm not familiar with the. I mean, I can't remember the map, but it's like we start in Colorado and we go up.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Probably catch some Wyoming then.
Martha Kelly
And then, like Montana and then South Dakota and North Dakota.
Bridger Weiniger
And you've never been to. Have you been to Montana or any of those areas?
Martha Kelly
No.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, it's so beautiful. I've never been to the Dakotas, but I've never been.
Martha Kelly
I mean, is Yellowstone in Wyoming?
Bridger Weiniger
This always makes me feel stupid. I think it's in Wyoming and Montana. Is that right?
Martha Kelly
If so, I've been to whichever. Mostly in Wyoming. It also spreads into Montana and parts of Idaho.
Bridger Weiniger
So this makes me feel like a genius.
Martha Kelly
Okay. You were right.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm right.
Martha Kelly
So I've been to Yellowstone as a kid.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Did you see Old Faithful?
Martha Kelly
We did, but I don't remember. I just remember my parents talking about it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. I don't remember seeing it. I remember smelling it, but I don't remember the actual.
Martha Kelly
Does it smell weird?
Bridger Weiniger
It's like sulfur.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Because I think those hot pots have a lot of sulfur in them.
Martha Kelly
Oh, yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But that's essentially all I remember from that trip. Yeah. That's literally it. And then eating some bad pizza. Why were we getting pizza in Montana is a big question.
Martha Kelly
And why couldn't they come up with a good pizza? Montana, Come on. Come on. You can make pizza.
Bridger Weiniger
I do think that this is true. I think every state. Well, at this point, probably every state has some good pizza. I think that there was a learning curve for a large part of the United States where New York got to claim they were the only good place with pizza. But I think at this point, you can get good pizza wherever you go.
Martha Kelly
There's a pizza place in my dad's little, tiny hometown in Massachusetts that has some of the best pizza I've ever had in my entire life.
Bridger Weiniger
What is it called?
Martha Kelly
Well, it's changed over the years, so I don't know now, but it's just. It's a place called Forge Village, and it's a tiny little town. There's just like a couple stores and a pizza place and an old, no longer in use textile mill, which is where my grandparents worked.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God. That's amazing.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Like, they moved there. They moved there from England with other of their siblings as young adults. Because that factory was like, we'll give you jobs and a place to live if you move to America and work here.
Bridger Weiniger
Wow.
Martha Kelly
So, yeah. Wow.
Bridger Weiniger
And what were they doing at the textile mill?
Martha Kelly
I guess just working on like factory lines or something. I don't. I've never. I should have. It's kind of late now. Cause they're all gone. But why wasn't I such a shitty kid? I didn't even ever ask.
Bridger Weiniger
Terrible grandchildren, thoughtless grandchild, horrible granddaughter of the year.
Martha Kelly
Really?
Bridger Weiniger
Back to the tour. Just briefly, how do you do in a situation like that with strangers? Because I feel like for me, probably like six hours in, they'd be like, oh, I don't think he likes us. And it wouldn't be because of that. It's just I don't handle that sort of thing that well.
Martha Kelly
I relate to that. But I think that I have been surprised to find out how inevitable it is that I'll get attached to people if I spend a lot of time with them over multiple days.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. A forced excuse to talk to each other.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And like, I mean. Cause I did just to be Johnny Hollywood for a second. I did two days on a sketch show a couple weeks ago. Two days and not even two full days. And when it ended, I was like, I'm gonna miss these people.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's really sweet.
Martha Kelly
Their cast and their crew were just really lovely.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's wonderful. Can you say what show it was yet?
Martha Kelly
I don't know. I should have asked.
Bridger Weiniger
You didn't care about it at all or those people?
Martha Kelly
I don't care. I don't care if it even.
Bridger Weiniger
You're campaigning against it.
Martha Kelly
I'm here to say don't watch any. If you hear on the grapevine that there's a sketch show that I'm in, do not watch it.
Bridger Weiniger
Just don't watch sketch shows in general to be safe.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Just to keep it real.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, I think there's something else we should talk about. I've been trying to avoid this subject as long as possible.
Martha Kelly
I get it.
Bridger Weiniger
You remember the huge blow up we had in the last time we recorded, how there were years between that we barely spoke. The podcast is called I said no gifts. And I really thought today you wouldn't bring anything. And so I was frankly just kind of blown away when you showed up with this gorgeous gift bag.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. I did really go all out for the gift bag.
Bridger Weiniger
Well, should we open it here on the podcast?
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Can I give a pretty. I don't want to say disclaimer.
Bridger Weiniger
I love when people start explaining about a gift before it's even open.
Martha Kelly
I just want to say, no pressure, but I did bring you as a gift one of my most precious personal items from my home.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh my God.
Martha Kelly
But I will also say I might be the only person in the world who considers it a precious item.
Bridger Weiniger
It's like a chewed up wad of gum.
Martha Kelly
No, it's just. And I will tell you also that I am going to buy another one. Cause I really want, I really want
Bridger Weiniger
hearing this sort of thing where you're like, oh, I don't want to give it away.
Martha Kelly
No, I do, because it's not expensive.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
And I'm just gonna buy another one. That's how much I love it. You're not gonna love it and I'm already sorry, but I love it.
Bridger Weiniger
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Culture Research with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We all know the feeling when life gets really busy. Taking care of yourself can feel impossible. That's why Premier protein shakes are my go to. They have 30 grams of protein, 160 calor, no added sugar and they taste amazing. So they're a healthy choice you'll actually want to make. It's not just for fitness, it's for getting after life. Premier Protein powers me to say yes to more. Find your favorite flavor@premierprotein.com that's P R E M I E R protein.com support
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Bridger Weiniger
oh this is wonderful.
Martha Kelly
It's a refrigerator magnet of a frog. A port. A serious portrait of a frog in a wood.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a really beautiful kind of bob, a bob with bangs, kind of a jet black. I'm trying to think of who has a hairstyle like this.
Martha Kelly
Oh, it's not a Lord Farquhar, it's a Jason.
Bridger Weiniger
If this was on a man it probably would be right?
Martha Kelly
I mean I've been assuming that is a man.
Bridger Weiniger
No, I kind of just jumped immediately to, you know, hip young woman, 20s, she owns a record store or something.
Martha Kelly
It's funny, I've been thinking like 11 year old boy school portrait. That's how I've been thinking of it. And that is the parents hanging it on their refrigerator.
Bridger Weiniger
This is a great test for therapists. This should be a new what do you see with the frog in a wig? Because I absolutely saw this hip young woman, but I could also see that being a little boy. And he's embarrassed of this picture now.
Martha Kelly
He's kind of like I'm in fifth grade. I honestly thought this would be a more exciting time of life. I thought I was gonna be hitting my stride, but here I am in a wig.
Bridger Weiniger
Where did you.
Martha Kelly
I found it on TikTok and I'm gonna buy. That's why I know I can buy another one.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you do a lot of TikTok shopping?
Martha Kelly
I have. I'm trying to cool my jets because I don't wanna be accumulating. So some things I've gotten off there I have loved and some things have been truly Garbage.
Bridger Weiniger
What's been some of the garbage that you've gotten?
Martha Kelly
I got some erasable gel pens that don't work at all.
Bridger Weiniger
Erasable ink. We've got to just stop talking about that as a concept.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, it's not good. I remember in sixth grade, it was a big thing. Paper Mate, I think, had erasable ink pens, and they just tore up your
Bridger Weiniger
paper when you erased paper tearing and smudges.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, it didn't really. They were terrible. These tricked me. I've gotten some eyeshadow palette that is basically like a watercolor palette. It's the brightest primary colors. And I tried all of them. I was like, this is ridiculous.
Bridger Weiniger
It's clown makeup.
Martha Kelly
It's clown makeup. Or it's very young women with a certain kind of eyelid makeup where they can really. If you're young and doing different layers of mixes of colors or whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
It's a frog in a wig type makeup.
Martha Kelly
It's frog in a wig makeup.
Bridger Weiniger
That's a good filter. Frog in a wig.
Martha Kelly
Let's get that. God, I would love to have that filter.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Those TikTok things almost always get. I've never fallen for one, but they always make every product seem like, well, this is the exact solution for a thing you were not thinking about before. And then they demonstrate it and it works, but clearly they're just using another product or the magic of Hollywood.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And I've gotten other stuff. Like there was a little tripod lighting stick that had two lights on either side of it, ring lights on either side of it, and one of them immediately broke off.
Bridger Weiniger
So then just half of your face
Martha Kelly
is being illuminated, and then the other one doesn't work. Now, that's been a while, but I'm trying to think of Boughten. Some real. I mean, boughten. I bought.
Bridger Weiniger
I think, by the way, we should just bring boughten into the language.
Martha Kelly
Let's get it back to it.
Bridger Weiniger
Enough people have said it.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Boughten to me is in the same delightful category as hootin and hollerin.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. That is kind of the same dictionary.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Boughten. We all know it makes sense.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And if people are saying casted, then I can say boughten.
Bridger Weiniger
Absolutely. But what have you bought that's worked?
Martha Kelly
Oh, and I also bought a keyboard that doesn't work.
Bridger Weiniger
Musical keyboard or a.
Martha Kelly
No, a typing. Really pretty pink, clickety clacking buttons. And I can't get it to work.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, no.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. I can't hook it up at all. What have I got this work? Well, I mean, the Frog in a wig. I have gotten other very cute refrigerator magnets. I've gotten some. I get a lot of press on all the press on nails I get, which I'm not wearing right now, but I get them.
Bridger Weiniger
That makes sense.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
That feels like a category that you could trust on TikTok.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Although I will say they call many of them short, and they are not short. You have to get extra short, which are still too long.
Bridger Weiniger
So they come. And they're just super long nails.
Martha Kelly
They're just not as crazy long, but they're still longer than. You have to accept that part of your hand function will be decreased when you're wearing press on nails.
Bridger Weiniger
This is how we find out. You couldn't use the keyboard. The keyboard's not working because your nails. These are too long.
Martha Kelly
I should have tried them. Well, I got this tote bag, and I love tote bags.
Bridger Weiniger
That tote bag's from TikTok.
Martha Kelly
That tote bag. I also got other tote bags from TikTok, one of which I didn't really like and gave away to someone who did like it.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
TikTok. The one thing that always stops me is I think, oh, that seems affordable. Whatever. And then if shipping is over $2, I think, well, it's too expensive.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Seeing something that's not free shipping at this point, unfortunately, really freezes me in my tracks.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, I totally get it. Wa. I also bought some face stuff that went. Some medicube stuff.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, this seems dangerous.
Martha Kelly
That when it arrived, I took one look at the bottles and I said, mm, mm.
Bridger Weiniger
You can't put something on your face from TikTok.
Martha Kelly
No, I'm not doing that.
Bridger Weiniger
That will be a huge mistake.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. You'll be third degree burns. Not that medicube is burning people, but just these particular products. I said, that looks like a solvent that's used to take off super glue. I'm not putting it on my face.
Bridger Weiniger
There are certain things that are worth paying for and getting the advice of professionals rather than influencers.
Martha Kelly
Yes.
Bridger Weiniger
Like your skin. Things you ingest are probably another category.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
What was the first thing you bought on TikTok? Do you remember?
Martha Kelly
I think, I mean, I have bought. I bought a tiny air horn. I bought a miniature trombone that makes the sound that Chris Fairbanks always makes, which is like, that's not it, but you know what I mean.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes, of course.
Martha Kelly
I bought a little plastic raccoon in a plastic garbage can that I thought was cute, but my cats wouldn't let me keep it on the desk, they kept knocking it off. I've got a lot of cheap plastic organizer bins and shelves and things for your desk and bedroom. Bathroom got a lot of cheap plastic
Bridger Weiniger
stuff off TikTok but for bathroom storage I feel like that's going to be cheap stuff no matter where you get it.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. But the one thing I got that I unfortunately am gonna throw out as soon as I have time to take on a project. It is gonna be a project. Cause I have to take the things that are in it out.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh no.
Martha Kelly
But it's like I thought it was neat cause it has like a plastic kind of bubble looking lid and then drawers, but it's not good.
Bridger Weiniger
And is it something? Is the bubble lid, does it keep it from stacking other things on top of it?
Martha Kelly
I think it's supposed to keep things from being knocked over or getting dust on them or something. But I always leave it open.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh right, right.
Martha Kelly
So now I have like a bunch of hair products that have dust on the lids. And also I looked it up the other day. Your air conditioner central AC is not supposed to be laying out a thin layer of dust daily and mine is. So something's happening.
Bridger Weiniger
You haven't been in your new place that long, have you?
Martha Kelly
No, not really. I mean like eight months.
Bridger Weiniger
What has happened in those eight months?
Martha Kelly
I'm assuming the air conditioning filter was not brand new when I moved in. And then I don't ever pay attention to that stuff as I should. And now I am paying attention.
Bridger Weiniger
Who can take care of this for you? That seems very bad.
Martha Kelly
Well, I think I will buy a ladder from Home Depot.
Bridger Weiniger
Sure.
Martha Kelly
An indoor tall ladder. Cause it's on the ceiling. It's not one of those that's on the high wall.
Bridger Weiniger
Right, right.
Martha Kelly
And then replace the filter and if that doesn't help then say hey landlord, something's gotta happen.
Bridger Weiniger
Why don't you just ask your landlord to do it now?
Martha Kelly
I don't like having to plan appointments with people that come to my house. There's a lot of issues that need taking care of at the house that I simply refuse to handle because I don't wan have to figure out when can you come? When can I be here? Even though I am home most of the time
Bridger Weiniger
it's inconvenient.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And it's also like, I mean, I hope my landlord doesn't listen to this, but there was a light in a closet in the guest bedroom where you pull a string and it goes on and off. And of course the string came out so Then I thought I could replace it if I got on a little ladder and could reach. Unscrewed the light fixture and pulled it out and then could put that in.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
Unfortunately, none of that wasn't true at all. And then I didn't want to deal with the problem I caused, so I simply used duct tape to cover up that hole and so spiders wouldn't come in from the crawl space.
Bridger Weiniger
So now there's just no light bulb. There's nothing.
Martha Kelly
No. And there's no. Well, that's not true. There is stuff in the closet now, but it's just workout equipment, some of which I do use, but that doesn't
Bridger Weiniger
need to be lit up.
Martha Kelly
I don't need a light for that. I was using the light before because I had the cat litter box in there.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, sure.
Martha Kelly
But then, and I hate to badmouth him, but my cat Barry started missing peeing a little bit on the wall. And then I was like, no, this has gotta go in the spare bathroom in the shower that I don't use.
Bridger Weiniger
That's smart.
Martha Kelly
And then clean out, you know, soapy hot water on the walls and the floor of that closet. And then I waited a while before I put the exercise equipment in it. This poor closet, he's been through it.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, as far as cat litter, I haven't had a cat in a while, but have you tried experimented with different cat litter boxes?
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And it's like I keep trying to get ones big enough with tall enough sides that my cats will never miss. And unfortunately, they are determined
Bridger Weiniger
it's entirely on purpose then.
Martha Kelly
Well, I think Berry is just a sweet little nerd who doesn't pay attention to what he's doing.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, sure, he's got other things going on.
Martha Kelly
He's got a lot on his mind. But since I put it in the shower, most of the time he doesn't miss.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
But when he does, I can just spray the. Like, take the litter box out and vacuum up the dry scattered litter from the shower floor and then spray it with soap, dish soap, Dawn. Not that I'm promoting that.
Bridger Weiniger
I've made a lot of money from John over the years.
Martha Kelly
And then hot water, and it's, you know, clean, good as new.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that's probably the best solution for if you've got an extra shower or bathtub for your cat litter. Cause it's just, to me, an eternal problem.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And those robot ones, I think that those probably don't actually work.
Martha Kelly
And I'm afraid that my cats are so contrary that they Would figure out a way to either get hurt or killed by the robot.
Bridger Weiniger
It's very Cat Final destination.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah.
Martha Kelly
I mean, I have heard that things can go horribly wrong.
Bridger Weiniger
Really.
Martha Kelly
And they mostly don't. But I can't risk it. I don't even have a bed frame because I'm afraid of the cats being under the bed and the bed falling on them.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. I think that's a safe. I mean, I can imagine that actually happening. And if on the off chance it does, it's happened.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. So better to sleep with your box spring and mattress on the floor like a college student that no one wants to be.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that's very chic. I think that's chic.
Martha Kelly
I mean, they do have bed frames now that are closed off so you can't get under them. So why not get one of those?
Bridger Weiniger
Get one of those. Train yourself to one of those.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Once we get our guerrilla money making
Bridger Weiniger
machine, don't act like the dawn money isn't just ro.
Martha Kelly
I could get. I guess I could get it with my dawn money.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, you could get endless mattresses on the floor.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
No, I think now I'm starting to wonder about those robot things. What they could possibly do to a cat. I guess I don't want to know.
Martha Kelly
Well, I think that their tail can get trapped in the rake that comes out or something. I don't know. I just. As much as I love my niece and nephew and when they were, I felt like, God, I should have had kids. I love taking care of babies and kids. I do think it's for the best that I didn't because the way that I worry and I'm overprotective of just four legged family members. And also I can tell as an aunt, my niece, at one point, my niece and nephew are like, why are you so worried about us getting kidnapped? Why are you always warning us of
Bridger Weiniger
are you going to kidnap us?
Martha Kelly
Why is it the worst case scenarios that you're always making sure we're careful of to the point that at one point I was like, I gotta cool it.
Bridger Weiniger
Do they live in the area?
Martha Kelly
Yeah, they live down. Well, my niece is away at college now in Riverside, but they live. My brother and sister in law and nephew still live down in the south bay.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's lovely.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
So would you have like a day out with your niece and nephew? Aunt Day?
Martha Kelly
Like when they were little? Yeah, yeah, all the time.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, so fantastic.
Martha Kelly
It was so fun. They were so fun to just have. They mooned me one time in line at One of those giant gardening stores. Not a Lowe's, but.
Bridger Weiniger
What was that old one? Orchard Supply Hardware?
Martha Kelly
Yeah, I think it's one of those. Which is down in Torrance. And it was Super Bowl Sunday, and they were. They were probably like, 4 and 5, and we went there to get something. And as I'm paying, I look and they're both mooning me. They went through a phase where they mooned people all the time.
Bridger Weiniger
That's incredible. As a team synchronized.
Martha Kelly
And no one was. Thank God, no one was around. Although, I mean, who cares? But ultimately, it probably seemed like I wasn't taking great care of them, that they were, like, mooning people.
Bridger Weiniger
Do you still have a good relationship with them?
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
They must think you're very cool.
Martha Kelly
I don't think they think I'm cool, but I think that they enjoyed having an aunt who is like, I'm always on their side. I'm never the critical yelling aunt. Or, like, just. I. I adore them. And so I think that they feel very safe and they know they're my favorite people.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I love that. I can't imagine getting to the place of being the yelling aunt.
Martha Kelly
But that's the sad thing is, I mean, I had one mean aunt. Unfortunately, we saw a lot of her when I was a kid for a while. And, like, yeah, I've heard from people that they have some aunts that have been, like, really? Maybe just didn't like kids and were, like, scoldy or critical or whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
The stakes are so low as an aunt or uncle, where it's like, they're not really your responsibility. So you can just have a good time with these children. You don't have to discipline them unless they're attacking you.
Martha Kelly
Right. But I just think there are some people who don't like kids. I always suspect it's. If you had a traumatic childhood and you shut off your emotions to protect yourself, then kids can really trigger your anger. Oh, interesting, because it reminds you of being helpless. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt that they're not just monsters.
Bridger Weiniger
I think at this point in history, we've proven that there is a good part of the population that may just be monsters.
Martha Kelly
I mean, the one positive, hopefully, thing that I think is coming out of the monsters that are all out in the open now is that there are some
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very.
Martha Kelly
Well, how can I say this in a politically correct way? There are some religious communities, and I won't say denominations, but there are some in the United States that are specific to the United States that their practices in their communities, especially the way they treat kids. They keep it a secret as much as they can. And now it's all coming out because they said, we're gonna take over. Like, we're Christian nationalists. Sorry, I did say who they are. We're gonna take over everything. We want dominion over everything.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Martha Kelly
And so it's like, well, then, guess what? Now the spotlight is on all these things that you've been doing that you don't want people to look at.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. How just straight up terrible you are in so many ways. So not the religion that you claim. I mean, the whole thing is so bizarre.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And so I hope that it ends up rescuing kids from lives that are just full of deliberate cruelty in the name of saving their souls. It's heartbreaking.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, it was a very gracious way of talking about Christian nationalists.
Martha Kelly
I mean, and I guess it's. I shouldn't worry about saying that because I know there are lots of Christians that are not in that camp.
Bridger Weiniger
No, of course. A lot of lovely Christians who do what their religion is teaching them.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
But then there's this particularly nasty new thing.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And at least one of the architects of it, James Dobson, thanks be to God. He's no longer with us, but let's get his name out there.
Bridger Weiniger
And enough.
Martha Kelly
Smear it as much as you can.
Bridger Weiniger
I just watched this documentary called Marjo. Have you ever heard of this? Mm. Mm. It's about this former child preacher. Oh, it's amazing. He was like a preacher in the late 40s, early 50s as a child. Like, incredible. He would travel around and then later, I mean, he was obviously being exploited by his parents, and they made millions of dollars off of him. And he kind of later came out of all of that being like, no, this isn't me. But then the documentary is following him while he's going on tour as a preacher, knowing full well he doesn't believe what he's preaching. And I think part of it, like, I think part of it for him is he's like, I'm going to show people that this is all bullshit once this documentary comes out. And also, I'm gonna make some money that wasn't given to me by my parents, who used me as a child employee. But it's so wonderful. It's really fascinating.
Martha Kelly
And it's called Marjo.
Bridger Weiniger
Marjo. He was named after Mary and Joseph. Marjo.
Martha Kelly
And what. What platform can I watch it on?
Bridger Weiniger
I feel like this was on one of those weird free ones, you know, Tubi or something like that.
Martha Kelly
Okay, I'll look it up. I'm embarrassed to just realize I don't watch any of the free stuff. I also don't watch many of the ones I pay for.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God, of course not.
Martha Kelly
But I don't watch the free stuff. Cause I just have this dumb bias of like, it must not be good. But they are good.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that what they are, the good stuff, is just kind of forgotten stuff from the past where, you know, there's really no money to be made off of it. So this was made in like, I think 1970 or something, and then just kind of forgotten for such a long time. And then for whatever reason, Tubi has decided to put it on their platform or whatever free service this is. So occasionally you go into those things and you find interesting things that are nowhere else. Maybe because nobody owns the rights to them.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I don't know what the exact logic is, but it'll be like things that no one else has really thought of. So they'll be interesting.
Martha Kelly
This documentary, the way you described it, gave me an idea. And I'm not saying it's the right idea, but money making. You said they made millions. Yes, our gorilla.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, here we go.
Martha Kelly
Preach. Teach him sign language. And he preaches. They can learn sign language. Millions raking in the dough.
Bridger Weiniger
Seven dead in church as gorilla goes wild. No, I think that that's a path for us.
Martha Kelly
We gotta do it. Last time I think I did the podcast, we were talking about starting a. Did we talk about starting a podcast about delivering pizzas? Something like that?
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, I think about people who were murdered delivering pizzas.
Martha Kelly
Right. That's right.
Bridger Weiniger
My favorite pizza murderer.
Martha Kelly
Although we could also just do a My Favorite Pizza podcast.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, that's not a bad idea. And occasionally dip into people who are murdered delivering pizza. That feels like a concept that hasn't been done yet.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, I don't think it has.
Bridger Weiniger
And neither has My Favorite Pizza Murder. Both of those things one could spin off the other.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I feel like that pizza delivery people are, as you. As we spoke about, are in constant danger.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Except for, I guess people nowadays, they have to be using. They give their address and they have to use a credit card.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, interesting. Maybe, but stolen credit card.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, I mean, I got mugged at knifepoint delivering pizzas. I think that's why we talked about it.
Bridger Weiniger
Yes.
Martha Kelly
But that was in the mid early 1990s.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. And that's. I had the memory of watching, I think, Unsolved Mysteries where a pizza delivery man went to a location and There was no house and then was murdered.
Martha Kelly
Oh, God.
Bridger Weiniger
I don't know if that mystery's been solved yet. This was a long time ago. But that couldn't have been the only one of these things.
Martha Kelly
No. And that kind of makes me think about people who drive for Uber and Lyft.
Bridger Weiniger
If they get more people in passengers, I mean, the whole system is just ready for people to murder each other.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And I mean, in some ways, we should give ourselves credit as a species that more of us aren't murdering each other.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, that's a good thing.
Martha Kelly
You know, a lot of us simply choose not to murder each other.
Bridger Weiniger
It's just those other ones are getting the headlines.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. They get all the attention and they. Sometimes they get a lot of money.
Bridger Weiniger
Right? Yeah. I think that we need to talk about all the people who aren't murdering each other or doing horrible things more often.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. I mean, the truth is nobody wants to hear it, right?
Bridger Weiniger
It's really boring. Get it off my feed. I don't need positivity. I want to see murder.
Martha Kelly
I don't want to hear the feel good story.
Bridger Weiniger
No, no, no. I don't want to learn about a gorilla teaching people about Christ. No, thank you.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Have you been in a Waymo yet?
Martha Kelly
Never. And I'll never trust those sons of bitches. I feel so lovingly protective of the little robots that deliver stuff on the street.
Bridger Weiniger
I just saw someone get hit by a train.
Martha Kelly
Those little guys, they have a name. I can't remember what it is, but I love them. But the seething rage I feel when I see a Waymo.
Bridger Weiniger
This is how I felt. And I'm not trying to be a Waymo evangelist, but there's some logic that's starting to make sense to me of why am I allowed to drive? None of us should probably be allowed to drive. A friend really loves them. She goes all over the place in these things now. And so she took a few of us in one and I was like, oh, this is. If everyone was in one of these, this would make way more sense than Bridger Weiniger driving down the freeway because they're just. They're more efficient and they're not selfish.
Martha Kelly
True. Yeah, you're right about that.
Bridger Weiniger
So I think. I don't know. I mean, of course, like anything with tech, it's like, what horrible thing is going to be exposed about this? But there is something where it feels like there is a chance in 20 years people will be like, oh, I can't believe we used to drive cars. We're so safe now in these things that feel kind of like being in a trolley or something.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, that does make sense. I will say my gut reaction is the same as the boomer people who are like, we didn't need to talk about our feelings when we were young. Their distrust of therapy, even though it's been proven to be highly helpful for people. Even though I can see. Yes, everything you're saying sounds good. But I'm like, I don't trust them.
Bridger Weiniger
And I think you have every right not to trust them.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
Because again, every piece of tech we've ever used at this point, at least in the last 20 years, has just proven to be some sort of data gathering service or evil plan.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Is this a fun conversation?
Martha Kelly
I just, I mean, there's a part of me that's like, but there are good things that have come of it. It's just we have not so far regulated and protected against the nefarious stuff.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Someone's got to step in and regulate.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And we gotta have a propaganda network like Fox News that has convinced people regulation is bad when it's why we have clean water and stuff. You know, why there's a five day work week and safety at work, regulations and rules.
Bridger Weiniger
And people forget that those things didn't always exist. And then you could die of diphtheria or something because the water was filthy.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And Fox has convinced people like, I don't need the government regulating things for me. Just trying to tell me what to do. Like they're somebody getting thrown out of a bar. Fighting it. I'm a cowboy. Fighting it. Yeah, yeah. But we gotta get. I feel like in a investment group of wealthy, reasonable people.
Bridger Weiniger
Where are they?
Martha Kelly
I don't know, but I know they're out there. I just think they haven't come together to form a conglomerate that can start buying up and creating new media that could be as powerful as the ones that are currently being controlled and monopolized.
Bridger Weiniger
Again with the horrible headline. Yeah, Fox is. I mean, that's their entire brand.
Martha Kelly
But at this point, we have plenty of material to have horrible headlines about other things. Yeah, that's true. And bring light to it and get people motivated to. I mean, I talk about all this stuff, but I don't know what works. I didn't even graduate college and I was an English major.
Bridger Weiniger
I was an English major as well and barely graduated from college.
Martha Kelly
I've still got two classes to go.
Bridger Weiniger
Bridger, we're thought leaders. Or ultimately two thought leaders. Well, I think we should play A game.
Martha Kelly
Okay. I love it.
Bridger Weiniger
We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse, But I need a number between 1 and 10 from you.
Martha Kelly
4.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can recommend. Promote. Do whatever you want.
Martha Kelly
Okay, I will just promote. Euphoria. Season three is coming out on April 12th. It's on HBO. Max, go ahead and watch it if you'd like to. I will be. I love it. I'm a big fan of the show. I am in it. But don't let that deter you from watching this show, please. Everybody but me is a gifted actor on that show. It's just not true. And also, all of the ones that I've met, there's a bunch of cast I haven't met, but the ones that I met are just. I just love really sweet, warm people.
Bridger Weiniger
You know, people love you on that show. You're like an icon on that show. Right. I feel like it's like people adore you from it.
Martha Kelly
I think that there is a faction of Gen Z Euphoria fans that definitely are the bulk of my followers on TikTok, but I'm not a large, large account on TikTok, so I wouldn't say icon.
Bridger Weiniger
I think so.
Martha Kelly
I mean, I appreciate it. You can say it.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Keep saying, thank you for giving me permission. Go off Icon. That is a sentence that I just am not capable of actually saying. Okay. Yeah. Everybody go watch Euphoria follow Martha on TikTok. It's just a salve. I mean, it's just such a lovely thing to find on that service.
Martha Kelly
Thank you, Bridger. It's Martha Kelly. Tic Tac is my just for anyone who wants to follow.
Bridger Weiniger
Do I have anything to recommend? I feel like I haven't recommended anything on this. Have I recommended the documentary Marjo? Our friends the Rat Boys have a new album that I've listened to 100 times in the last two months. Everybody go find that.
Martha Kelly
Love it.
Bridger Weiniger
I think that's good. Two things, two pieces of media. Okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
All right, the first. These are all from our Patreon listeners today. This is from Antonia. Gift or a curse. Weird non happy birthday songs at restaurants that the staff are forced to sing at you.
Martha Kelly
Hmm. Curse.
Bridger Weiniger
Why?
Martha Kelly
Because I'm mortified when people sing Happy birthday to me at a restaurant and I. I waited tables for many years and being forced to sing Happy Birth, just being forced to sing for strangers, I don't think anyone's enjoying it except that part of the population that likes embarrassing their friends and family by getting them to be sung to. That's my feeling.
Bridger Weiniger
Wrong, Wrong.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm on the side of songwriters. I think that this is a fertile place for songwriting if you have the Happy birthday song. But I think whoever's working over at Chili's, who's got this itch to write a new song, let them write the happy birthday song and then teach it to the employees who will then hate it for the rest of their lives.
Martha Kelly
I guess I can see your point. Yeah, I see your point.
Bridger Weiniger
Okay. Thank you for accepting that. All right, this next one is from Marina or Marina or Marina. Marina. Those are probably the three options. Gift or a curse. People with a profile picture of their small children who stir the pot online.
Martha Kelly
Wow. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go in an unexpected direction. I'm gonna say gift because people love having someone to be mad at on the Internet. And I'm including myself in that. Just the. It's a short lived enjoyment followed by guilt and shame of being happy that someone's being ganged up on. But when you first log on and you see that someone has said something terrible to stir the pot and everyone is coming together as a community to tell them they're wrong and terrible, there's a thrill and a sense of being part of something.
Bridger Weiniger
Right.
Martha Kelly
So I say it's a gift.
Bridger Weiniger
Correct. This is a gift.
Martha Kelly
Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
This in particular, a person with. If their profile picture is not them and they're using their own children as their profile picture, it really says to me, this person's the worst of the worst.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Because they're hiding behind their children.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And we're all able to now just gang up and go absolutely wild on this person. I think it's an absolute gift. Finally. This is from Andrea. Gifts are a curse. Attending a baseball game. Game.
Martha Kelly
I got to go with gift Dodger dogs. I haven't been in years, but the way I remember how delicious a dodger dog was. I haven't drank in years. But the fact that you can drink and get a hot dog, popcorn. People come through the stands with these delicious food items. You don't even have to get up. And it's a long, you know, nine inning things. And there's a seventh inning stretch. So there's plenty of time to Goof off. And it's a low state. If it's not the World Series, who cares who wins? So if you're bored, you get up and leave. There's plenty of time to not feel bad because it's so long. You don't feel bad if you leave early, I guess.
Bridger Weiniger
Correct gift. I mean, I think you kind of just explained my entire feeling about that. You know, I don't really care to go to any sports event, but this one is more. It's almost like going to the mall. You're just going to hang out. Whatever's happening down there, I'm glad it's not interesting.
Martha Kelly
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
Because then we can just talk to each other, have our hot dog. And again, nothing better than leaving something early.
Martha Kelly
Right? Yeah. What a thrill.
Bridger Weiniger
Just check out when you're done.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
No stakes at all. Goodbye, baseball. You've had a lovely evening outside among strangers and friends and no bad feelings at all.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. And you could even, if you had money to burn, you might even go to Dodger Stadium just for a place to get a good hot dog. Like you're going to an expensive restaurant.
Bridger Weiniger
Consider it a restaurant.
Martha Kelly
Yeah, just go for the meal and a couple of beers or Cokes, whatever.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, right.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah. Just consider it a restaurant. My only concern with Dodgers Stadium, this is probably a problem with every stadium, is parking.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I see the people driving into that parking lot and I panic. I think I would need to be helicoptered in or something.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. It doesn't. I haven't been to anything at any kind of place like that in years. Like, I can't remember the last concert I went to, but, yeah, stuff like that. It does create a lot of panic.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You strike me as a concert goer.
Martha Kelly
When I was younger, I was. But the last. Oh. So the last concert I went to was in Dayton, Ohio, and it was to see the Scorpions and White Snake opened for them.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, my God.
Martha Kelly
It was in 2003, and a comedian I was friends with was doing the Dayton Comedy Club, and they had press box tickets to this, or whatever it's called, to sit for the concert. And we got to go and, like, get drunk and high. Cause that was. I got sober at the end of that year, but get drunk and high. One of the radio guys said, do you want to meet the Scorpions? Do you want to go to their tour bus? Of course.
Bridger Weiniger
Incredible. Did you meet the Scorpions?
Martha Kelly
No. Security prevented us from even going in that direction. And then the radio guy was like, well, they don't know. I'm friends with them. They don't know. We'll just go around this way. Went around, like walked around the venue to where the. And that same security guard stopped us and said, I thought I told you. And me and my friend Andy, who's the comedian I went with, we were so high and it was so hard not to burst out laughing. It was embarrassing for the radio guy,
Bridger Weiniger
of course, but a loser.
Martha Kelly
It was funny that he was trying to impress us with being, I can get you on the tour bus. And then like, like, not even close. Not only that, but you got scolded in front of us.
Bridger Weiniger
Oh, okay. You got two out of three on the game. That's pretty good.
Martha Kelly
Not bad.
Bridger Weiniger
Not bad at all. Will you help me answer a listener question?
Martha Kelly
Sure.
Bridger Weiniger
All right. People are writing into I said no giftsmail.com, begging for answers. Let's get into this. This is hi Bridger. They don't even mention you. I have a gift related question for you. I'm having trouble finding suitable gifts for my fiance's mom. My fiance insists that she doesn't like soap, candles or any self care gifts like that. Instead, he always suggests something random to get her, like a plant stand. But there are only so many plant stands one can give. My question is, what are the other gifts I can get this woman? I'm also wondering if the reason why my fiance assumes she doesn't want any self care gifts is because neither he nor his brother have ever asked. They are also an immigrant Indian family, if that matters, which I think it does. And I'm fully bright white. Okay, bringing race into it. I digress. But all I know is I want to get her something nice for her to pamper herself. What do I do here? And that's from cd.
Martha Kelly
Is it possible to ask the mother in law, right.
Bridger Weiniger
Start forging a relationship with this person or do we want to keep her at arm's length? Is that what this plan for this person? Is she trying to kind of fracture the family?
Martha Kelly
She's trying to cause division ultimately hoping to get her husband to go. No contact. Hmm. I mean, yeah, that's tough. If people don't tell you what they like or their close relatives don't. That is tough. But I guess I would have to ask her like, well before the holidays or birthday. Like, like, hey, what would you like for your birthday? Or what would you like for Christmas?
Bridger Weiniger
I think that another way to learn about the mom is start taking shots in the dark. If she doesn't like them, you're learning about her Right.
Martha Kelly
That's true, too.
Bridger Weiniger
So take some big swings.
Martha Kelly
Yeah. Everybody gets gifts that they're never gonna use and didn't want. And so what? It's right. If they don't like it, so what then, you know, for next time.
Bridger Weiniger
Right. You won't get that item again.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And you've got, hopefully the rest of this woman's life to get her bad gifts.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
And once you do land on one, you're both going to be so happy.
Martha Kelly
Right.
Bridger Weiniger
I mean, this is all, again, assuming that there isn't some other ulterior motive. She has mentioned that neither the brother nor the fiance care about the mom. I don't even know if she cares about the mom. I really don't know what to even tell this person.
Martha Kelly
I mean, and I'm trying to figure out, should I be mad at the husband and the fiance and his brother for being terrible sons, bad sons, or is the mother a mean mom and that's why they don't care?
Bridger Weiniger
Right. Oh, yeah. There are how many people here that. Four different people. That could be horrible.
Martha Kelly
Yeah.
Bridger Weiniger
I'm assuming it's the person who wrote into the podcast cd. Don't write back in. Well, we answered the question perfectly.
Martha Kelly
I think we did. I really thought your answer was the right one.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, I think so, too. And look at this cute little picture I've got now. I think this is going to go up in here. We've got to find a nice place. This is getting a little crowded. I've said this before, but it's starting to feel like Grandma's house that you don't want to visit. But out front, maybe over by that little cruise sign. Let's see.
Martha Kelly
I love it.
Bridger Weiniger
It feels like it could go. We'll find a place. It's just so adorable. I wonder if it could even just go like here. Look at that.
Martha Kelly
I love it.
Bridger Weiniger
We'll figure it out.
Martha Kelly
You've got so many great gifts.
Bridger Weiniger
I've gotten a lot of objects.
Martha Kelly
I love them.
Bridger Weiniger
All sorts of things that can be used as decor. At the very least.
Martha Kelly
They're great. It is a metal. I mean, it is a magnet you could attach it to. If this is metal, you could attach.
Bridger Weiniger
Yeah, there's got to be some sort of metal up there. I don't know. We'll find it. Find it. Martha, I'm so glad you could do the podcast.
Martha Kelly
Me, too, Bridger.
Bridger Weiniger
It was a thrill to see you.
Martha Kelly
It was a thrill to see you as well. And I can't wait for us to make millions off that gorilla no, we'll get started today. Okay.
Bridger Weiniger
I'll start the custody battle asap. Listener, the podcast is over. We're just releasing you into the wild. Go do your thing. I love when you do your thing. I love you. Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at. I said no Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
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But I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you got to come to me empty handed. I said no guests. Your presence is presence enough. And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?
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This episode welcomes back comedian and actress Martha Kelly for another round of warm, meandering conversation, personal anecdotes, and comedic banter with host Bridger Winegar. True to the show's premise, Martha once again brings a gift against the host’s protests, sparking a hilariously offbeat discussion about strange personal treasures, TikTok shopping disasters, and the joys and anxieties of day-to-day life. The episode also delves into topics like storm-chasing, cats, family dynamics, Christian nationalism, and a game of “Gift or a Curse”—all with the dry, self-effacing humor characteristic of the show.
[03:47]
Martha and Bridger discuss Martha's popular TikTok videos, which are an antidote to superficial, fast-cut social media trends. Martha uses playful filters like "Republican woman makeup," preferring low-effort, authentic content over slick editing.
Notable exchange:
Martha explains her makeup filter tactic:
[30:29]
Martha’s gift to Bridger is introduced: a refrigerator magnet—a “serious portrait of a frog in a wig”—sourced from TikTok. They riff on what the image could represent in a psychological test.
They swap horror stories about TikTok shopping (erasable gel pens, useless gadgets, eyeshadow that’s “clown makeup”), and agree on the linguistic joys of words like “boughten.”
[47:44]
Martha reflects on the rise of Christian nationalism and its exposure of harmful hidden behaviors in certain communities. She and Bridger discuss the need for regulation, the role of propaganda, and the Fox News effect.
Bridger recommends the documentary "Marjo," about a former child preacher.
Weird non-Happy Birthday restaurant songs:
People using children's photos as pot-stirring profile pics:
Attending a baseball game:
Question:
Gift ideas for a future mother-in-law who (allegedly) doesn’t want “self-care” gifts.
This summary covers all essential topics, provides notable quotes, and flows naturally for anyone who hasn’t listened. Skip to the indicated timestamps for favorite segments or comedic highlights!