Mo Fry Pasic Disobeys Bridger

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: I Said No Gifts!
Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Mo Fry Pasic
Episode: Mo Fry Pasic Disobeys Bridger
Release Date: December 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of I Said No Gifts! features the quick-witted and charming Mo Fry Pasic. As always, host Bridger Winegar invites a guest for backyard banter with just one stipulation: no gifts. True to tradition, Mo arrives with a suspicious poster tube in hand, and what unfurls is a hilarious, spontaneous, and heartwarming conversation about childhood, curses (literal and figurative), cats, milkshakes, motivational posters, and the quirks of gifts and nostalgia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Bridger’s “Situation”: Rain, Power Outages, and a Cold Start

• [02:00–04:32]
  • Bridger recounts his “raw” morning—power outage, cold shower in the dark, and, crucially, a house that did not flood (“Any time my house isn’t full of water, it’s a good time.”).
  • Mo delights in the chaos: “Oh, I love that. I’m meeting you in such a raw form. Thank you for showing up.”

Weather, Home Energy, and the Water Curse

• [04:47–10:15]
  • Mo loves rainy LA days: “Cloudy weather is like a little jacket for the world.”
  • Bridger recounts stress about past floods, suggesting his family may be “cursed.” Mo offers a spiritual reframe, musing about water as both destroyer and purifier—“a very loving destroyer if you think about it” [08:08].
  • Mo wonders: Is Bridger’s podcast—obsessed with gifts—actually a journey to reconcile with material attachment?
    • Bridger: “Maybe the podcast brought the curse back to be healed.”

Homes, Decor, and Cats

• [10:48–14:18]
  • Mo describes her home aesthetic as Feminine Scarface: “I love sort of an 80s aesthetic, but also cozy, plush blankets where you can nest.”
  • They discuss pets—Bridger’s got a Rottweiler puppy (very good in the rain), Mo’s cat Vanya is an experienced traveler—and swap cat travel horror stories.

The Cat Litter Conspiracy: “Big Litter”

• [15:06–17:41]
  • Both lament the state of cat litter tech, devising a tongue-in-cheek “Big Litter” conspiracy:
    • Mo: “What if we've uncovered something? There will never be a solution to cat litter. People have probably been killed because there would be.” [17:21]
  • Bridger, deadpan: “I would say the same level as big oil.”

Curses, Home Vibes, and Platitudes

• [18:00–26:18]
  • A running bit about being “the curse breaker” (“I never blame someone… but we can zoom out and find a personal pattern that it can release.” – Mo, [09:49]).
  • Mo’s love of literal interpretation leads to sincere delight in cliché motivational posters.
  • Bridger: “They are so universal, so felt and experienced, that they become trite—but they are powerful things…”

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The Gift Reveal: Motivational School Posters

[21:45–26:18]

• Mo presents a poster tube containing authentic vintage motivational school posters inherited from a great aunt who was a principal in LA:
  • Sample posters include:
    • “Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off the goal.” [22:24]
    • “A sunset is a sunrise on the other side of the world.” [23:00]
    • “Just reach for the sky.” [23:09]
  • Mo: “They’re so dumb they become profound… you look at these and you’re like, maybe I’m not alone in the world.”
  • Bridger, about his aunt: “Maybe she was more of a… you know, she was discouraging everyone.”

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On Teachers, Childhood, and School Social Hierarchies

[27:18–31:41]

• Sharing awkward stories about running into teachers out in public.
• Both discuss their school personas.
  • Bridger: “I was an excellent student. I was teacher’s favorite.” [28:29]
  • Mo: “I was popular, which feels psychotic to say… but at my school the cool kids were the ones politically active, not the stereotypical types.” [30:06]

Memorable Quote:

“When Mean Girls came out… it kind of ruined [seeing teachers in public] for me.” – Mo Fry Pasic, [27:35]

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Sports: The Badminton vs. Volleyball Debate

[31:44–36:10]

• Bridger’s gym-class trauma: “I don’t think I’ve ever successfully gotten a volleyball over the net.”
• Badminton emerges as the official “gay sport,” to friendly debate.
  • Mo: “No, it’s not. It’s so wealthy… There are so many other sports I’d name before badminton.” [33:06]
  • Bridger: “Badminton is so gay. Are you kidding me?”
  • Mo: “Wealthy people aren’t straight. Here’s a hot take.”

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Rainy LA, Social Whirlwinds, and Revisiting the Posters

[36:32–39:01]

• Bridger jokes about “cutting out all my current friends and going to balls and galas” to fully enter the world of boat-owning, badminton-playing high society.

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Utah Lore: Super Dell and The Owl Incident

[38:11–43:31]

• Nostalgic deep-dive into Utah celebrity “Super Dell,” known for local commercials, hang-gliding, and… allegedly harassing an owl.
  • Mo, incredulous: “So was he famous before the gun and the hang glider?”
  • Listeners treated to an impromptu brainstorm for true crime podcast names: “Dell with the Devil” [43:31].

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Fantasy Books, Game of Thrones, and Endings

[44:58–49:21]

• Light roast of Game of Thrones’ creature deficiency.
  • Bridger: “Let’s throw in another creature… It’s just dragons. You’ve got a talking lion in Narnia, but nothing here?”
  • Dialogue on the struggle to land a story (“You should know how you’re going to land the plane before you get it in the air.” – Bridger, [49:05]).

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The Game: Gift or a Curse

[50:16–68:11]

• A recurring segment: Mo must declare if things are a “gift” or a “curse,” and justify why.
  • Speakerphone – Curse. “It’s a curse. It never feels like it’s for you.” [52:14] (Correct)
  • Milkshakes – Mo: Gift (for personal, Midwestern nostalgia), Bridger: Curse, due to inconsistent quality and “the spit and dairy situation.”
    • “If there’s a dairy element to a drink, it’s got to be in a separate glass…” – Bridger, [55:07]
  • Foaming hand soap – Mo: Curse (for being chaotic), Bridger: Gift (“The slime’s gotta go. We’re doing foam or grit only.”) [65:39]
• Interlude: Both wax poetic about favorite soap, scents (sandalwood, lavender, Tom Ford’s “volatile agents”), and changing trends in chic hand soap brands.

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Listener Question: The Perfect Gift for a Croatian Grandma

[68:32–73:51]

• A listener needs a gift for their 90-year-old Croatian grandma: it mustn’t create clutter, has to be light (cheap postage), and she’s not tech-savvy.
  • Mo’s expert advice (as a Croatian herself): Send a small linen bag with pressed Croatian lavender, just like her relatives would use in closets for scent—a nostalgic, lightweight, meaningful delight. [71:05]
  • Bridger’s runner-up suggestions: a stick of gum, lifesaver, or a handwritten letter.
  • Mo: “Effort and thoughtfulness when you can’t have weight or tech—bring this grandma to tears!”

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the “Big Litter” Conspiracy:

  • “What if we've uncovered something? There will never be a solution to cat litter. People have probably been killed because there would be.”
    – Mo Fry Pasic, [17:21]

• On Motivational Platitudes:

  • “They’re so dumb they become profound.”
    – Mo Fry Pasic about old-school motivational posters, [24:15]

• On Milkshake Sharing:

  • “If there’s a dairy element to a drink, it’s got to be in a separate glass, so…”
    – Bridger Winegar, [55:07]

• Meta-moment:

  • “Listeners are saving so much money, they could play badminton.”
    – Mo, tongue-in-cheek about the value of this “expert” podcast, [35:20]

• On school popularity:

  • “I was popular, which feels psychotic to say… at my school the cool kids were the ones politically active—not the stereotypical types.”
    – Mo, [30:06]

• On Game of Thrones’ dragon problem:

  • “Let’s throw in another creature… it’s just dragons.”
    – Bridger, [46:09]

• On landing the plane (story endings):

  • “You should know how you’re going to land the plane before you get it in the air…”
    – Bridger, [49:05]

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Final Moments

[74:04–end]

• Bridger reflects on the perfect day: a batch of inspirational posters, a rain-washed backyard, and a new friend.
• Mo departs, umbrella in hand, after a delightful, densely-packed conversation.

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Summary Tone

The episode is light, irreverent, and playful. Bridger’s gentle self-deprecation meets Mo’s vivid absurdity and direct warmth, making for a charming exploration of nostalgia, comfort, and the weird rituals that surround gifts, childhood, and memory. The jokes tumble into bits, the bits morph into surprisingly poignant thoughts, and the natural rapport between host and guest keeps “I Said No Gifts!” feeling like the best kind of comedic hangout.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bridger’s morning, house flood trauma: [02:00–04:47]
• Rain, curses, and home: [04:47–10:15]
• Mo’s home, pets, and travel: [10:48–14:18]
• Cat litter & “Big Litter” conspiracy: [15:06–17:41]
• Receiving the motivational posters (gift): [21:45–26:18]
• School days & teacher stories: [27:18–31:41]
• Sports debate (badminton/volleyball): [31:44–36:10]
• Utah’s Super Dell and true crime brainstorm: [38:11–43:31]
• Fantasy and Game of Thrones: [44:58–49:21]
• Game: Gift or a Curse: [50:16–68:11]
• Listener question (Croatian grandma gift): [68:32–73:51]
• Closing, umbrella, and rain: [74:04–end]

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Note: All ads, sponsor breaks, and non-content sections have been omitted from this summary.

Transcript

[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

When I invited you here.

I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home.

You gotta come to me empty handed. I said no guests.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Your presence is presents enough.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. We're in the backyard. It's been an interesting little morning for me, I think for everyone. But mostly for me, I the power was out so I had to. Well, it's just been stressful because it was raining all weekend, but my home didn't flood. So, you know, any time my house isn't full of water, it's a good time. So I'm feeling fine. I'm wearing a fantastic shade of green and everybody knows it. What's going oh, I had to take an ice cold shower. That was the big thing for me this morning. An ice cold shower in the dark. And I try to imagine, you know, maybe I'm under a beautiful waterfall and that will help. That helps for two seconds. And then it was agony. So. But I'm awake. I'm alert as much as I can be at 11:15. Is there anything else going on? I'm scanning my brain. I don't think anything else is happening. My house isn't flooding, thank God. That's all we can. That's. I'm just so thankful. Let's get into the podcast. I'm a mess. Today's guest is absolutely fantastic. It's Mo Fry. Pasek. Mo.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Hi, friend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Welcome to. I said no gifts.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm so happy to be here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Thank you for experiencing this entire situation leading up to the recording.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I adore that this is what you identify as a situation.

Because I feel like listeners should know. It was like I walked in, it was really nice energy. Said, do you want water? You guys set up some cables. And then at one point, both of you individually said, I'm so embarrassed. I go, whoa, I don't know for what. And I just nod. I go, yeah, don't worry.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, you know, we're 10 minutes late. I just don't like to. I like the guests to just be walk in, walk out, not see a moment of it. So for. I mean, my phone is currently, as we talked about, the battery is hanging by a thread.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's a real MacGyver situation, for sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Attached to all sorts of battery or power cords.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

A power cord attached to a power cord to a kind of vintage apple charger.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, yes. Everything is. You know, I just push my life to the absolute limit right before the breaking point. And that you've met me today at the breaking point.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, I love that. Which feels great. It's wonderful. Oh, God, I'm meeting you in such a raw form. Thank you for showing up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. It rained all weekend. How was your rain experience?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love rain. It's like, you know, I find in la, the little cloudy weather, like a little jacket for the world where it's like, ah, don't talk to me right now. You know, like, there's no pressure to go outside. There's no pressure to, like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. So I appreciate that you don't get stir crazy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No, no. Like, you could put me in a dark room for a very long time. I always say 2001 A Space Odyssey at the end, I'd be fine. You know what I mean? Like, I just, like, daydream. Oh, look at this. Look at this gorgeous, like, fabric in this room.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I can. I feel like I should be better at staying home. But are you a go out and do I think I just need to know that I can.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sure, of course. The option.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I need to know that I can just hop in the car and I can. I mean it's just raining, but I don't like to get my shoes wet. I need to get better waterproof shoes or something.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So then when it is nice out, are you then in the same opposite way being like I'm staying inside?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Nice. It's a broken system completely.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's a demand avoidance system.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, totally.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But also when I came here, it's like I keep feeling like I was saying to Anneliese that it felt like Costa Rica a little bit, but then I realized what it feels like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, I was a little scared.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, is there an animal back here?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, cutie.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, fantastic. Yeah, we have a couple cats that have been visiting recently and I really.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Love to see them, but this feels like I'm visiting Billy Collins 2001-2003 in Hawaii when he's poet laureate and I'm in his backyard and there's tropical plants and we're gonna go talk art and be intelligent and witty, yet poetic. You know, as I said this, you've.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Come to the wr. Come to the absolute wrong place.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Being witty.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, that's the. That's the vibe I'm always trying to shoot. You know, early thousands Hawaii poet laureate. No, I love the clouds and I'm growing. I'm relearning to love the rain because as I was telling you pre podcast, the house flooded two years in a row and it's, you know, the trauma has just seeped into my bones.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But have you had natural disaster damage prior to this?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I. But I have had some. I think my family has a water curse because our family home flooded. The basement flooded when I was a kid and it was.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm sorry, you said no. And then you said yes.

What?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Your home flooded the basement. But it was sprinklers, so it wasn't natural.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I understand. Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then when I first moved to la, I was living with a couple and their baby and it was a horrible situation. So over the holidays I packed my car up in order to move out.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then went home to Utah for two weeks and it rained for two weeks straight. And I got back at like 11:30 at night and stepped into my car and heard a splash. My car was full of water. Total panic. I mean, I just an absolute breakdown.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because it's also in the attempt to like Protect yourself and your items to leave. Blew up in my face in the biggest possible heartbreaking.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then of course, the two years of flooding. So I don't know what witch my parents crossed, but there's just.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We could resolve that today.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Maybe that's what we do on the water.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I feel like we should talk to this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Get me out of the water curse.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I feel like we could do that easily.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What do we need to do to get this?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We need to find the root soul lesson that your soul is trying to learn.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because it's like. Okay. What feeling of like. Either. Because water is actually a very loving destroyer if you think about it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

When we're talking big, big expanded ideas. Not literal. Because it's awful when people lose things. But I think if I'm. We'll just pitch on it. Right. If you're like, say you're pitching a more fantasy based thing. You could say like, okay, there's purification. There's a feeling like even when you like a benevolent sort of requirement of. It's very. What is it called? Like Catholic, like biblical. Like I'm not allowed. I should wash away information.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very baptismal. Yes, yes, of course.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And it's like this idea of a shame paradigm. It feels like, interesting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I need to let go of some sort of shame.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. I feel like the curse. That you would then be the curse breaker is the idea that there is shame in wanting material things.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What do you think? Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I really like this. I have a hard time with material things in general.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Do you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You have a whole podcast about gifts. I love this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. So material.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe the podcast brought the curse back to be healed. Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And complete it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe. This is a whole. Been a whole journey to get water out of my life.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I would. Or like. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Learning to accept material goods and keep them a little bit interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because it's like, it's. I think, I don't know. I think a lot of us have issue feeling morally wrong, wanting things and homes and that, you know?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. I really have a lot of that where I'm like, I don't. I never buy anything. When I do, I usually don't buy the best.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Really?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Cause it feels indulgent.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, I hear that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. We may have gotten to the root of something here that could really change everything for me.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because here's my thing with like break and curse or whatever. I never blame someone. Never. Like if you're thinking about concepts and you're playing with it and going that happened to you because. It's not. That happened to you because. But if we can zoom out and find a personal pattern that it can release.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Party rock. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is. Have you ever felt like you've had a curse?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I've had plenty. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Any elemental?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Golly, I don't think elemental. I hope not.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I guess physical would be elemental. No. But not earth, wind, fire.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. And do. Do you remember a point when you were like, oh, no, this is going to curse me?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No, It'll more so be like. It's like the thing where you go to other people's houses and you're like, damn, we don't live normal at mine. You.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're like, damn, have I been living a curse? Damn. And then you're like, you guys are. That's okay. Okay. It's more like a realization constantly that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is a nice thing to go to another person's house and just get ideas on how normal people live.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Pretty easy. But then for the most of my young life, I was like, this is fake for fakers.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're putting this on for me?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. I was like, y' all smell, like, tied and weird. You need a chaotic home where, like, your aunts come in to do your laundry and take it away and then lose your volleyball jersey, and the whole team's mad at you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Has there ever been something you've walked into someone's house and you're like, I am going to implement this into my own home.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I, like, hated how strong my reaction was. Absolutely not. I know exactly what I want. My home. I love my home. I know how I want it to work.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's the general vibe at your house?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I call it Feminine Scarface.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Oh, I like that.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I really love sort of an 80s aesthetic, but also I need it to have cozy, plush blankets and softness where you can nest.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So I like the rain, darkness. There's no. I can be in my little nest without watching reality TV without the pressure to go out in the world.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Feminine Scarface.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, I got the. I like. I have a lot of velvet, like, Doberman sort of paintings. I have a lot of Nagle, Patrick Nagles, like, the nail arts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So there's, like, a little bit of a danger to it, but in a.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Cozy way, but in a cartoonish way.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I like that. Are you a Doberman fan? Do you have pets, or you just, like the general image of a Doberman?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I have pets. I have a little spirit guy named Vanya. He's a cat. And I Love him so much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What color?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Black and white.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, very sweet. How old is he?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He's nine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. So he's got years and years ahead of him.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, he's a diva kitty, too. He's a little jet setter. He, like, he flies with me. He does his thing when he flies.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have a friend who has two cats, and she at one point, because I guess at the airport when you fly with them, you have to take them out of their crate to go through security, and she had to do that. She took them both out and then they peed all over her. And this was on the way.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. So she got a journey ahead of her.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Can you imagine?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Piss journey.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Total. The entire plane had a piss journey.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Isn't that the truth?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I mean, what a nightmare for everybody. How is your cat flying?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He okay? Cause I've seen people like, oh, yeah, it's tough when people don't know how to wrangle their own animal. And you do have to take them out and then you have to do this thing where they swipe your hands for, like, the bomb residue no matter what, if you have a pet.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And so then you have to be holding your pet. And I always do, like, a clamshell with my hands to get him to swipe it. But I always wear a sweatshirt and I put Vanya in it and I, like, rock him. But because I got him in Wisconsin and when I went back to New York, his first flight was when he was, like, young.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So he's very accustomed to it. So this is just kind of a thing for him.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He's really good at it. But I will say, because he's good, people have no boundaries. And, like, especially older women, like, oh, he's so cute. I start touching my cat and I'm like, hey, this sucks.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, is he on your lap throughout the flight?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No. Gosh, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He tucks in that little, like, carrier. You put it under the seat. He's so that I always have to alert the person next to me. I go. Just so you're aware, there is a cat underneath here.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. And it is alive.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's alive. It's alive. But I don't know. He's easy. Cats are. Yeah, he's easy to be around. But do you don't have pets, do you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

We have a dog, and we absolutely love her, but anytime it rains, I remember why. One big thing cats are easier with is they don't have to go outside.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. They put booties on.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Well, she's really good in the rain. She's just a puppy. She's nine months old. And she was surprisingly great out in the rain. It kind of didn't bother her at all.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I think she's a Rottweiler, and I think they're used to. They're water dogs. She's the best.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's amazing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wonderful little animal.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, wow. Those are special ones.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I didn't. I knew nothing about them until we found her and.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Found her.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. She's. Well, we rescued her.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But still.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. And once we started telling people, oh, we have a Rottweiler, everyone has had these incredible experiences with them.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, because I feel like pitties. Get the conversation forward then Dobermans and so Rottweilers don't necessarily get discussed.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. They're kind of lost in the mix.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And they're kind of in that same category of people think that this is a scary animal and it's actually the sweetest creature you can possibly imagine.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And she's so smart. She also thinks I'm a toy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Of course.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's fine.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

She's right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. She's basically correct.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But, yeah, the cat. You had cats at one point, and, you know, they're ups and downs. The cat litter is a tough situation.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Why has there been no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was like, the science. Science community has got to just maybe put everything else aside for a minute and just say, let's figure out how to deal with cats. Toilet.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's so bizarre.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's crazy. There haven't been bigger advancements in this.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

All the pitches, all the guards, all the little toilets, like, even just a foot cleaner, it would be a better advancement than the actual litter itself.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. When they're tracking the litter throughout the house, that's almost grosser than the smell or anything humiliating.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sometimes when you have people over and you're like, it's tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If you feel a piece of litter on your foot, it's just like, my. I'm a disaster.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Pack it up, pack it up. I'm done. I'm out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Take it all away from me. I don't deserve any of this. Yeah. They've got to. I guess you could put the litter in, like, an area where there's a carpet that they have to step off onto and wipe their feet.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. But I feel they know because, like, you know what I mean?

[Bridger Weiniger]

There is, like, a destructive. They're like, no way.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Like, truly. Because I have, like, a carpet and then I have, like, a plastic thing. And then my cat, I will watch him, like, Fly over those. And I'm like, you knew. You knew I want it. Like, fuck.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. I guess they have those automatic litter boxes that are kind of a robot those.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

My friend has one of those. Those are like the worst that you. It's like, remember you see, like, when you were like, in the 90s, like, you'd see commercials for, like, Robot Dog and you're like, of course it's a perfectly working cool. And it's like, yeah, you should see it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it's just. This is nothing.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Nothing. This can't work. This doesn't move at. And it's that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I imagine that it's probably also scary for the cat.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

A lot of cats have issue with it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Because I assume it makes noise.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. It's also, like, weird that it feels like it's moving. They can understand it's moving in some sort of rhythm with them. But the pattern might not be necessarily direct because of the timing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't love it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder if big litter. All of the cat litter corporations are like, we cannot let this problem be solved.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay, well, if you. I'm so good at. Yes. Handing this. Because imagine big litter is also based in, like, big concrete, which is being based in big construction.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

There's a lot going here. We could go a lot of places. This goes so far because then who's Big Crystal, though? You know what I mean?

[Bridger Weiniger]

They all have so much writing on this. Yeah. It's. I would say the same level as big oil.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Not. No. What if we've uncovered something?

[Bridger Weiniger]

We have there. There will never be a solution to cat litter. People have probably been killed because there would be.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You know what I mean? Like, if there wasn't something against it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, of course. Oh, I love this. Billions of dollars are being poured into cat litter every year.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We're getting a cease and desist tomorrow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Die.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Mysteriously drowned.

What is our soul trying to learn?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think. I think that there's something happening.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't. I don't disagree.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Big Pharma similar thing. They don't want all diseases cured.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Same. Yeah, I said same.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have something that you're stopping.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They were the same as. But they just came the same. I don't want them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're standing in the way of a lot of cures.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Right, Sam? I don't want to make so much money off that shit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have a lot of stalks and litter and death.

Oh, what a shame. It all. It is. I know, but it gives us challenges and things to work through.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We're all just tinkering on our little rocks all day. You know what I mean?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And then someday you'll miss the litter on your feet.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, don't. Oh, whoa.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm sorry. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. It's something we all have to accept.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So brutal.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's something we all have to accept.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

One day you'll miss the litter on your feet. That was like. That was Luther Vandross level. That was crazy. One day I'll dance with my father again as well. I cannot believe that.

You said that like it was a pivot. Like you were closing that thought. And then you just dropped the most emotional, devastating.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Somebody needs to write a piece of beautiful music. Someday you'll miss the litter on your feet.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

An R and B. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Beautiful R and B hit. Oh, well, speaking of difficult topics.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look, I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast today.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I thought, mo come by, we'll have a nice conversation, and then we'll move on.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I was a little surprised. The podcast. Look, the podcast is called I said no gifts.

And you're, you know, you're an intelligent person. Sometimes you can read emails. Maybe you're really backing away. I feel like you're really building up a case for yourself.

So I assume you'd be able to follow the rule of don't bring a gift. So I, you know, and I've had a very hard morning already. Maybe the hardest morning anyone's ever had.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Could be.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm struggling through life, and so it was a little difficult to see yet another challenge. You showed up with a gift.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I did.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, it's in this beautiful tube.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, I'm actually shocked, though. Cause you're sitting here and going, can't believe it. It's like, it's been contentious the whole time. I talked about wanting people to die and not wanting cures. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, how are you shocked by this? Of course I came in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's the biggest shock of all.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's sort of a. What is it? Antagonism. Yeah, of course I came in. Antagonizing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course you're an antagonist.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's our sort of. That's our charm of this relationship. That's sort of like, I told you not to. I specifically asked you not to do that. And that's what giving it. That's why people want us to win when we're watching this film.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. They want me to overcome your terror.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Your absolute villainy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So now we're gonna see you know, I'm on my journey here.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Will I make it to the end of the podcast? And part of that is opening this gift right now.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

Nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

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So I'm going to slide this out of. It's in a poster tube and it's so far. Feeling poster esque. But we don't know. We can't make any assumpt. We'll put this here. It's like a big cigarette now.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, that's fun. It is very cute. Oh my God, that's so fun. If you like, start with a small one and it builds to that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, now this is seems to be a poster and I'm here. You pull so we can. Oh, multiple posters. Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, so this first one is this gorgeous kind of photo of some. What do we call those islets? Small islands in the ocean. Like, you know, the big rocky ones.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Rocks in the ocean for sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Obstacles are what you see. See when you take your eyes off the goal.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's so true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So true.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's so true.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, should I look at all of these and then we can discuss.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. Now I'm so excited. Okay, now this is a bigger. Oh. Oh, my God. There's so many.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Hey, we're only at three. We're good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's see we'll get this one first. Okay, now you pull.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

This is my favorite one.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You hold that in. We're opening, opening, opening another poster that says another. It's a kind of a beautiful field of. Is that wheat? It's wheat with a beautiful sun behind it. And it says, a sunset is a sunrise on the other side of the world.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Now if you think about that for a minute, don't.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'll spin out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, and now let's. I think this is the final one, right?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes, it is.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You pull that in and I'm already singing a hang glider. So we love hang glider in front of a sunset. And the. What we're learning here is just reach for the sky.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Absolutely. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But if you think about that, Think.

[Bridger Weiniger]

About that for one second and your whole. I mean, your whole life plan falls apart 100%. These are achieved achievement themed posters.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Tell me. Wow. Reach for the sky. And it also says it in several languages on the back.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes, sir.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But if you want to see it in a different language, you have to frame it on the opposite side. And there's no picture.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, it's sort of like a latex paper on the other side.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, exactly. Why did you bring these? Gorgeous.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm so excited for you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Powerful statements.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. One, I picked them. They're of a theme of color tones because it felt all very sunsetty.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Very golden.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Very golden. I have maybe like 50 of those.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And. And my favorite part is. So my great aunt was a principal in the LA school district and a teacher. And when she passed away, I had to go through storage and clean out stuff. And she had so many school supplies.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So many school supplies. And part of me was like, well, these are dumb and fun and maybe I'll make art. But I was like, I have to save these because they're from the original. It's like people will know them from their grade school or, like, hang in there. Like, they're so dumb. They're so dumb that they become profound. And you look at these and you're like a sunset on. Oh, maybe I'm not alone in the world. Like, it's like you go too quick. And like some of the other posters I specifically didn't bring because it's like they are so ugly. Like, it'll be someone. Like, make it across the finish line. And it's like a sort of 80s woman wearing Sophie shorts pulled too tight so there's a very aggressive camel toe. And then like. And like, she looks pretty upset. And then like another One is like, just like the road ahead. And then it's just like some guy's ass, like kind of jogging on a long, like, Forrest Gump Road. And they're not good and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But it's heaven.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. What a find. Because they're the genuine. You know, these haven't been, like, created by some ironic online company.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And you can feel from the paper that they're from that vinyl. Yes. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I mean, this is a real. This will last for ages. They look brand new. Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They were from. No. Yeah, I know. It's lasted. I think she probably got these in 70s, 80s.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And she apparently never hung these up herself.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, maybe somewhere in the classroom, who knows?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. But they seem so brand new.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels like maybe she was more of a. You know, she was discouraging everyone.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Probably. Yeah. Could be, if you're taking good data that I was not taking. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She may have been just kind of terrorizing us.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, she was protecting the school. It was like Pandora's box from finding these inspirational.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If anyone finds out about sunsets and sunrises, I'm finished. How dare you?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. But I have a question, though. I am what I call Amelia Bedelia brained, which is just literal processor, of course. And so what's so funny is that when something is like super dumb and like, just like a platitude, my brain takes it literally and I take it to me, the most profound, like, truly. And I'm like, ah, that's amazing. And someone will be like, no, it just says, like, stop walkway. I'm like, but stop walkway. You know what I mean? Or something like that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think the thing with platitudes, though, is that they are so universal. They felt and experienced that they become trite. But it's like they are powerful things most of the time. But they're things that you just have thought about and heard so much because they're universally.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm here with you on the, like, the sort of Dao Te Ching, the way, like back and forth. The most profound is the simplest truth. But I'm thinking more like live, laugh, love. You know what I mean? I'm like, I don't.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Shouldn't we?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Shouldn't we. That's the way you write.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We gotta live, we gotta laugh and.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We gotta laugh, lap. And we gotta.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Most of all, if you're not loving, you're not laughing or living. Yeah. So there you go.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I biffed that one hard. I biffed that hard. It's wine o'. Clock. How about that one?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's always wine o'. Clock.

Wine o'. Clock. That's a tough one. It's a tough one to get back.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's just a TJ Maxx plaque. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you can't hang that in an elementary school.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well.

You always have, like, those teachers in their office where I'd be like, can't wait till the weekend. You're like, what is your weekend?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. You don't like your job. You don't like being with us students.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You don't be like a guidance counselor.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh. Did you ever run into a teacher, like, out in the wild at the grocery store or anything? Have that uncanny experience?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, because Mean Girls came out when I was in the seventh grade and introduced the concept to us pretty well.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. That kind of ruins it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Kind of ruined it for me, to be honest. So. Not really.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I remember. I think I was probably in fourth grade when that happened. Just threw everything, I think it did.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because then you, like, know the thing, expect the thing. So then when it's happening, if you're hyper aware, you're like, meta, and you're.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Like, is it this weird or good? Hi. Yeah. In your brain, there's almost like school is almost a Westworld style thing where they're all trapped in there, and then you see them shopping for eggs and you're like, oh, I'm trying to think.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Of anything I have. I just don't even think I did.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Really.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Did you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. At least once. Once or twice I would run into a teacher.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What kind of student were you then, though?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was an excellent student. I'm sorry.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The pivot in your energy was so sharp and incredible. I just heard the last bitch after that. I was an excellent student. Unsighted.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was teacher's favorite.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wow. I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think I was probably a decent student.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wasn't the one that was, like, keeping everyone from enjoying recess. You know when someone's like, screaming and then everyone's screaming.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But your inner standards were.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, I kept it together. Okay. Okay. But I had a little fun. So, again, what's that look like?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Do tell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What does having fun in the classroom look like? That's a great question.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I facilitated the passing of a note for someone else before.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. Who's the middleman?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wasn't creating the notes or reading them. I was a loser.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But I let him do it. I love him.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How are you as a student?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, it's a mixed bag. I was a really good bullshitter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think I was a charming student. I was a Very smart kid. But I didn't realize I had so many different learning disabilities that I was cheating just to get something done. But the work I was doing to cheating was way more work than anyone else was doing, you know?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And so I would like wine and dine. I'd be like, if I buy you this Starbucks, will you get rid of my absences or something. Like, I was really like, you were.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Using real adult skills.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because I also gone to a special school which is so wild for like kids with high IQs when I was younger.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And then they like drill into you like kind of this education that was wonderful but not applicable to then public high school.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. Right?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So then you get to public high school and you're like, what's up? Like, it's like it was. I didn't. I faked a lot.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did you feel alienated?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No, I was pretty popular.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay, so you were able to, you know, mix the high IQ school.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I was popular. Which is. It feels psychotic to say because it's like, what a metric, you know, like, you're like, what does that mean? No, they did what they would test you in. And I think by way of that they chose. It felt Montessori esque where like the. The way they education style was more. You just learned about different things and it was. All the subjects were integrated and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I liked it. But I don't think the. There should be a barrier for entry in that way.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This went all the way up to ninth grade.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That went to eighth grade, eighth grade.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then they just throw you back into the stream.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Throw you back into the stream. But I was also an athlete. Athlete. So I think I got that grandfathered into like not having to really figure a lot out.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Mo does it all.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You better know what sort of athlete. I was a very good student.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I was a very good student. I was an excellent student.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I can't stress also though, I was like, my school was like the popular were like the like kids who. Because I grew up in Madison, so it was like kids who were actively involved in the political community. Like the cool kids were not the stereotypical.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. It was kind of a bizarro world. It wasn't like the cheerleaders and football players.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No, by no means.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They were looked down upon.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They were certainly not celebrated.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So that's what I mean by popular because it was like a space where it was like. Obviously there was hierarchies, but it was slightly more.

I guess inclusive to if the not I want. I don't Want to go aggressive in inclusivity because it was. Sure. Very many ways, but I think it was more diversified in. And it's cheerleader football.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Right. And what athletics were you involved?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, volleyball.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Volleyball, yeah. That's. That's the one I'm most scared of, really.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Why?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Terrified of volleyball. There's something about that ball flying at you that I'm just running out of. I don't want it coming near me.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Did you play? Did you try, like, in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, in gym, we were required to play it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And I don't think I've ever successfully gotten a volleyball over the net.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's. I don't know it. I think they teach it wrong, especially in gym.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How are they teaching it wrong?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because also, like, you're playing with other people who are doing it just to.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hit it hard or just interesting. Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So you're not really getting a chance because you play other sports at all.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, Simply no. Badminton.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Badminton. So volleyball. The origin of volleyball is tennis and badminton. Like. Oh, because it's volume. Right?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. And there's the net.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. It feels like the volleyball should have been the first thing. And then tennis and badminton are a refined version of it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I agree.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Don't you think it's like technology getting smaller.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We had a ball. Just a ball, but tools.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. We're bringing tools in first, then we're putting the little feathers on.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

See, what I loved is that when you said, I do not play sports, it gave the. Like, I don't at all. And then it's pivoted to, like, I only play a wealthy sport. You know, like, bad. You know what I mean? I thought it was gonna be like, I don't like to move like that, but it was. No, no, no. Poor, you know, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Gay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Y.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes. Yes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Badminton. Let's be honest, it's in a pretty solid gay camp.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

No, it's not. It's so wealthy. It's like, imagine, like, you're going, like, if we're going to West Hollywood and we're saying, what sport, Everybody, what sport? There's so many other sports I would name before badminton.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Badminton is so gay. Are you kidding me?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

This is a caricature of an 80s dad villain who is gay, but is the dad. You know what I mean? Like, let's go play Batman.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's in the gym with the rat racket, the thing. You know, racquetball. Now, that's intense. You know, that's like. That's very Wall street energy. You and your.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't. You Think badminton is the gay sport.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God. You think? I mean, it's certainly not straight. I can see it being consistent.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wealthy people aren't straight. Here's a hot take.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They're all gay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. And that's equality. Because gay people can be evil. And I think that's good that we have. Should be so equal that we can be evil.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A lot of evil gay people. Some of the worst.

The worst people alive are gay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. It's what we're trying to take away.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Let's get to that.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We want the takeaway to be. Of course, naturally.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is why we gotta get rid of all of us.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

This is why I don't believe in Bigfoot curing all diseases.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, exactly.

No badminton. My introduction to badminton was public high school.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. We had a unit on it and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was just so nice where I was like, this thing isn't gonna hurt me. It through the air. Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But were you competitive in it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, but I at least was able to, you know, participate.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's interesting. I. I act genuinely. I know we're being somewhat facetious, but I'm genuinely interested because I think it is such a high focus sport.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right. Interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because it's like, especially with the. The. You have to go with wind patterns. You have to go with the right hit the style. You have to like hit at the sprite speed and then slow the speed. So there's such a much attention required.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I loved it. That's why I also love volleyball because it's play over, play over, play. It is not long term, but I.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Feel like right now you're considering badminton from the viewpoint of someone that's good at it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you're talking to someone.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm very good at sport.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Two experts, one podcast. I mean, this. What a bargain for everybody.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I can't believe it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The listener is going, wow, I really.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Listeners saving so much money they could play badminton.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. I mean, I haven't played. You don't really get opportunities to play badminton. I guess I need to make more rich friends.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Not. No. Because nobody else is really facilitating. But pickleball became in vogue a little bit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Which I don't. Again, the ball is hard.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't like that at all. But it's adjacent to this energetically.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You know, I need it to be light, I need it to be frothy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It sucks that you can't passively do stuff. Cause then all the rise. You have to become the guy who plays badminton to get a single game in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Can you imagine I would actually come over here, new friend, and go, hey, we gotta talk about this. This is weird. This is tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have a career, you're rapidly losing friends.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I go, we can play just like, we don't need to make it this big.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It doesn't need to be part of your personality. I would love to have more opportunities to play badminton and to be on a boat and I don't have any of them.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which makes me think I've just gotta cut out all my current friends and start going to balls and galas.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I like the idea of you co opting the language of the people who are like, I'm in a spiritual awakening. Cut off all my friends. I had to start going to balls galas.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I needed to enter a new tax bracket.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I had to go into the Sacramentium.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's raining a little bit.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Stunning. And it's not quite where we are. Oh, yeah, it is.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, it's so romantic.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm sorry. This is where I'm dumb as rocks. I said it's not quite where we are. I'm under a roof.

We are outside, but I'm under a roof. And I said not quite to us. Not quite to us yet.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it could get to us. Who knows?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

So that means a half day.

[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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I love these posters. This one with the hang glider reminds me. There was a guy that was famous in Utah who ran a computer repair or computer business. Who was his name? I think it was Dale. Crazy Dale or something. Super Dave. No, Super Dale. Super Dale.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think the Super Dave is so funny.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I believe at some point was arrested with his hang glider and a gun. Yeah, it was.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So for others who are.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder what he's up to now. Super Dale. I bet you he has Super Dale on Elise. That's a very good Super Dale computer. But not Del. How embarrassing for him.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Are you joking?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Like Farmer in the Dell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. How did we spell. Look at the sky, listeners.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I want you to know it's giving like his mouth is a black hole.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's got bleach tips.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He's like, you forget that they can actually be born actually, like naturally. Bright blonde with blue eyes. And he's given like, I'm the party dj.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is that his mugshot?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Has to be, right?

[Bridger Weiniger]

What's the news story there? Is it like. Because I think he had a gun at some point and he was hang gliding.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

This is so funny.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He was such a.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

This is a mad lib.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Super Dell. How embarrassing to be in the computer business and not be Dell.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Change your name.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's tough. Super. But maybe that's why he said I'm super.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. All right. He threw the super in. But that is only making things harder.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But this is actually very interesting to me. So was he famous as this guy that fixed views before the gun and the hang glider?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. He had a bunch of, like, annoying local commercials.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, I totally understand.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And became very famous through those. Then I think the hang glider came. I'm sorry.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

There's so much to this. Like, you have to know. Okay, so this was just, you know, for credit's sake. This was posted in the Salt Lake Tribune, of course, August of 2017. So the 2017. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The former Super Dell of local television.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Commercial fame is now facing federal misdemeanor.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Criminal charges for allegedly chasing and harassing an owl.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

An episode that apparently showed up on YouTube.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Was he chasing the owl on his hang glider?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It was a different misdemeanor. Videos posted on YouTube last year showed a paraglider pilot chasing and kicking an owl.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It did not show the pilot's face but was removed from YouTube after it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Went viral because of a copyright claim. They're both flying, right?

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're gonna get sued by super death.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God. Imagine we're just reporting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is. We're just.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We're reading from a newspaper. Big litter. And he's actually an agent. Agent to silence us.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wonder if he's in prison now. Wow. Chasing an owl.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I. I know. I. Sometimes people's language in reporting is so psychotic because you got. Which came first, though.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Was he flying and the owl and he's like, fuck this bitch.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right? Or was he jealous? Ultimately just jealous of an owl.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Honey, that's natural.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I wish I didn't have to have a machine.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, that she could fly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

What did you think she was jealous of her figure?

He wants the figure of an owl.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

His head swivels. I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Those hips.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Mama. Big mama. When you're the best of friends.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Seems like the owl won out in the end. Good for the owl.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We don't know that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, we've got a root for the owl in this situation.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Get a gun.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think the gun may have been.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

A separate incident, but it's so Elmer Fudd coated. To literally get on your hang glider and be like, I'm gonna get a. Ow.

Literally, I'm like, at what point could you hunt and owls mid flight? You just go to a tree then, right?

[Bridger Weiniger]

You don't need to meet them in the air. They're going to win. The gun thing's a separate incident. This is someone whose life is totally in control.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm sure his family is intact and everything's normal with Super Dell. I think we tried to go to his house as kids or as, like, teens. I think we tried to drive by his house.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

How did it feel?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Felt incredible. But we didn't get to meet him or anything.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I know, but did you feel like you were void? Like, weird? Like it was like he was gonna come out scary?

[Bridger Weiniger]

If you're putting yourself a local commercial, you're opening yourself to a lot of experiences.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I hear that you're asking for it. Is what you're saying.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're absolutely asking.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay, so you're on the record as saying one, gay people are bad, and you're asking for it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Always on the side of the perpetrator. This podcast is very pro criminal.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Important messages today.

We're pro owl crime, too.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If someone is on your television, you are allowed to do whatever you want with it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's consent to kill them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

The school is ringing its bell, trying to drown out everything I'm saying right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Now is the son of the police.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Will Superdell, reach out. Maybe we could get him, book him to the poster.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He seems like the type that would be on this poster. Do you know what I mean?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, complete. This may be him on the hang glider.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It feels like that. Oh, my God. Imagine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Who knows? We're going to have an episode that starts with, this is a call from the Utah State Correctional Facility.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What if this turns into, like, cereal?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where it's like, this is my cereal.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. This is of finding Dell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Or, like, yeah, going to Dell.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Okay. Wait, wait, wait on this. Delta. No, wait. Super.

[Bridger Weiniger]

My life is a living Dell. Oh.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, that's really good. I'm thinking about, like, Dell into another word, like Dell. Delightful.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Delightful.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The delights of a murderer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Deal with the Delvile.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God. That's really good. That one's it. That one's really good. Dell. With the devil.

People go, why twice? Yell with the devil.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's just incomprehensible.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's totally inscrutable.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That makes me so happy. That makes me so happy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is Annelies. Get in touch with. Exactly right. The network can get the wheels rolling on my new podcast today.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What for? But this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, I.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is the true crime people are begging for.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They didn't even know it was hanging in their room. It was staring at them the whole time.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, it was in your aunt's storage shed.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Maybe. Maybe protect it. And I opened.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You've opened a door that we have to go through at this point.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What I like about this feeling right now is that I kind of don't have to go through. It's kind of like I'm like, I'm Bilbo. I'm in Riverdale and I'm going. Go on your journey. Go to Mordor. I'm good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're going. Bilbo had a pretty good deal.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He had the best deal.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He had all the fun and then got to retire in the elf world.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Ringdale. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Ringdale. Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Ringdale is the funniest thing you've ever said.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Did I say Ringdale?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Ringdale. Rivendell. Rivendell, which I always confuse. Riverdale. I always say Rivendale.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But calling it Ringdale, like, it's like where you sell rings is so funny.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Rivendale.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes. Dell. Yeah, sorry, I got way too excited for that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is. I mean, now we're picturing Superdell with Elven ears. He's speaking Elven.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

He could give it Elrond.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Do you like fantasy at all?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I do. I'm not super into It.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. Is there a number one for you, like a franchise?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Not really. No. You know, I love the Lord of the Rings movies. I like the books. But beyond that, I'm not super hardcore. I think I could get into it. I'm always looking as an adult, especially, like, I need a book that will just totally take over my life. Are you a fantasy person?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm not. Writ large. Like, I'm not. If there's a fantasy thing, I'm not gonna love it. I have the nostalgia for, like, the things that. Like, I love Doctor who. I love Lord of the R. I was a big Harry Potter kid. I like, love the fantasy space that I grew up with.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But I don't think I'm necessarily, like, gonna be psyched for anything.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's hard to buy into a new fantasy world as an adult.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think it is because you're also just like, oh, they're the same themes over and over again.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right, Exactly. And I've already imagined most of these.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Things, and the language is already in me to use it to this.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. I read most of the. I've read actually all of the Game of Thrones books.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. You know, did you read pre. The. The show?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Coming out during the show.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And my big complaint with Game of Thrones has always been, let's throw in another creature. You know, it's dragons. Let's have an elf or leprechaun show up. It's a little boring.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's a really good critique.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's just dragons.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're at the threshold of fan. Like, you're just. Why not throw another.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Come on. There's got to be something else that's wild to look at.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's an interesting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is there any other. Other than the. The. Are they the light walkers? But those are kind of just zombies.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

People going a certain way.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. There's. Is there any other creature in that world? Ultimately.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Complaint.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Ultimately. The author's not. Doesn't have much of an imagination. Not a creative guy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

C.S. lewis made like, there's so many.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. A unicorn. You've got a talking lion.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You got all of the animals.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Just have some talking animals at the very. A little bird that talks or something.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, this is a different species. You're saying owls like a different species.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Come on. I don't know why he was so restrained with just dragons, even, like, an evil sea creature.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What stands Game of Thrones apart from everything?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think it's the language, like, the sex.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

A lot of sex. And, you know, it's darker than Lord.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Of the Rings fanfic, essentially.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If Lord of the Rings was embarrassed of how dorky it was, then tried to be a little bit more mature.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God. That nuance. Nuance is really good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It had that. A little bit of embarrassment and had that. Because it is what you're saying, where it's. The slight performance of. This is sexy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And it's not exactly embodied right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Not able to throw itself entirely into. Let's just have something with long, pointy ears.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Or let them just fuck. It's like. And the circumstances make it so brother and sister have to fuck. Okay. All right, buddy. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

If that's your fan, I don't know. I've got issues. I've got notes. And the series is not over. So I feel like George R.R. martin can.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I thought he did the finish.

[Bridger Weiniger]

He's still got two books to write. He's. You know, it's. I'm not a hardcore fan, thank God. But I feel like a lot of his fans are, like, mean to him at this point. I feel like there was a video recently that he was at a conference and somebody, like, raised their hand and was like, are you going to write it before you die? What the.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Can I be really honest with you? The whole. Wasn't the whole shtick. And, like, I remember hearing this in 2011 because I was at my Strathmore apartment in Boston and someone was like, do you know that he had to tell producers how it ends in case he dies before. I'm like, okay, so we're like 15 years later, and my guy's like, what are we doing? What are we doing?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm not quite sure. Does he know how it ends? That's the big question.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's giving, like, oh, I feel bad. It's giving, like, it's going to be a big deal. It's a big present. And he has no idea.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Nobody. And I think people were really upset with how the TV series really. I think they kind of absolutely dropped the ball in a lot of ways.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But wasn't he a part of that?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think he kind of became less and less involved.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then it's just kind of a disaster.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's tough. People can't land the planes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, it's hard to land a plane.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But it's the most important part because it affects the entire back memory of the ride.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You should know how you're going to land the plane before you get it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

In the air, 100%.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But some people get a little excited and just get going and. And Then I feel like those books. Actually, I think you read the first three, and it feels like, oh, this could have just been it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then I think he got a little excited and just kept going.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's tough.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Well, is there anything left to say about our beautiful posters?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Do they feel inspiring to you?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Of course. I've been inspired three times.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Amazing. Well, besides, dude, to find a killer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've got so much going on in my life now. I've got a new podcast I have to launch. I have to track down this guy in prison.

Or potentially deal with his lawsuits.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You have to avenge an owl.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have to avenge. I may have to learn. Learn to hang glide.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. I'm just happy. I want you to be inspired.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm thrilled about these. I'm gonna put these back in the tube so I can access my computer here.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You. You. Good luck. Because I'll be honest, I had. I had to read.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Put these on the table to get.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Those all into one this morning, not last night, literally. You should have seen me with a little roll. And then I had to tighten the other one and go, T, T T t t t T. So good luck.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They were very neatly wrapped. I was impressed. Well, I think we should play a game.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I can't wait.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're gonna play a game called gift or a curse. But I need a number between one and 10 from you.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Nine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces right now. So you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. Hello, Cutie bears. It's just me now. Well, things are gonn.

Okay. I'm kidding. You could listen to my podcast. Worse than you with Mo Fry Pasek. Good. Get production. Listen where you listen. It's very fun. I interview people about their creative process. I'd like to talk more abstractly instead of wake up. Do morning pages more like. You know that song you listen to when you're seven? Maybe inspired you to then learn how to listen to music different. That sort of stuff. I love you. You're perfect in every way. I bet you looked in the mirror today. Or you didn't. And I want you to look through my eyes. And guess what? I'm looking at the best person alive. And it's you. I'm still chilling here. I think I promoted me. I'm cool. That's about it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I hate to cut some. That was so beautiful and lovely. Everyone go listen to Mo's podcast.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I hope. Yeah. And I can't wait to hear your process. I Hope one day I get to break it down with you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Break it down. I would love to.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And yes, I would love that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And look at this rain.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

People need to know it's the type of rain that's a Seattle wash. It's a subtle.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's so soft. I really love it. It's kind of at an angle. It's not pounding. And we might hear it on the mic maybe. Hopefully, the listener will be able to enjoy a little bit of that rain.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

We're taking Hawaii.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, we're off to Hawaii. We're on our hang gliders. We're chasing an owl to the islands. Okay, this is how we play Gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things you'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. Then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

All right, speaking of curses.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Speaking of curses. Yeah. First one is from a listener named Caitlin. Gift or a curse. Speak for speakerphone.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

To be on the phone with speakerphone.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay, well, first of all, I don't want to put my little grubby phone to my ear, so I don't. I don't want to be doing that. And so you're thinking, great, it's a gift. And no, it's not at all. Because it's a curse. Because acoustics in a space, people sharing the info you're around. It's also that sort of like people in an Uber that get on their speakerphone, and I'm like, there's a stranger right here. There's a stranger right here. And I like. And part of me is going, like, do you want them to hear the context of the other side of your car? I don't. I don't like it. What's. Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Correct. Yes, correct.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You nailed it. I mean, it seems like it should really work, right? This is the thing with speakerphone for me, and I've only realized this in the past couple of years, it makes me mad at whoever I'm talking to because the sound, it's loud, it's obnoxious sounding, it's tinny, and it puts me on edge with whoever I'm talking.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Nailed it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's like. It's not that. The intimacy of putting it to your ear. No, it's this. I don't know, it feels like they're yelling at you.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, then you physically, like, almost want to cover the phone because it's like it just feel. It doesn't feel like it's for you. It is opening the space up and.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They'Re not there, right? Yeah, yeah. It's not for me.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's helpful to clock the anger because sometimes it is.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There's something, like, subconsciously that's happening. You're hearing. Hearing. It's. The noise is making you a little edgy, I think.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What's like when someone's phone's breaking up and it's like, we're breaking up. And I know it's not their fault.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But I'm like, yeah, it's the exact thing. So we've got a. They should just remove that feature from phones.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I love that. I love that black and white thinking.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

All right. The second one is from a listener named Colin. Gift her a curse. Milkshakes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Colin. You bet she spells that with two L's. A little freak.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Colin, how dare you.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I felt it. All right. A gift or a cur. Okay, milkshakes. I'm uncomfortably going to say gift.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Why?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't want to say gift. But it is. Milkshakes are a gift. Because, listen, in a world of cookies and brownies and cakes and frostings.

That world. In a world of that, right. Milkshake is this psychotic thing. And I'm Midwestern. Like, you're going to have a dairy with a dairy. With a dairy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

With a dairy. Of course. Of course.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's this thing where it's like sometimes you can order it as your drink with your burger at certain places and. But sometimes it can be like a long sort of dessert that's personal, that you don't have to share. It's not like sharing ice cream, which is disgusting because it's like. I'm sorry. Like, the suspension of your spit in that creamy, viscous fluid, and then I'm just disgusting. So. And it's personal. So despite feeling like anyone. Anyone being bloated and drinking that much dairy is a curse to be around, I do think they themselves are gifts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, first of all, before I even get to my answer, you really landed on something here with sharing dairy with another person.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Let's talk.

[Bridger Weiniger]

There's something. So I'll let somebody, like, drink my water, drink my soda, whatever. But if, like, if there's a dairy element to the drink, it's got to be in a separate glass, so.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Right. Yes, that's the. Right.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It feels so dirty. Dirty.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's disgusting. And I think it's. Cause the viscosity.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's disgusting.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's taking the spit right into it. And Becoming part of the beverage.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And you could even see it's like, oh, it's brutal. And it feels so, like, intimate.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

In a way where I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. There's. Wow. You really. I've always wondered why I felt like that was such a weird thing to do.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm glad you felt that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Well, unfortunately, you're wrong.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I knew I was. When I curse, I feel like everything's a curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love a good milkshake, but we've got to land on a consistency for milkshakes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Consistency is your issue.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm off. Often you'll order a milkshake and you'll be served a thing you cannot drink. You're. If it comes with a spoon, this is not, to me, a milkshake. And that needs to be either classified as something else or the restaurant should be classified.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're, like, humiliatingly sucking it down, like.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Hard with the strong eggs. And I just don't. I feel like I can never count on a milkshake unless I know and trust the place. And so. And then I feel like a lot of fast food places are kind of cheaping out on the milkshakes. They're crummy ice cream, and I want them to be as good as possible. And it's a. It's a big investment in a dessert.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The unspoken here, though, is, like, the constant attempts you're making at having a milkshake experience that not a lot of people are doing. And they're is such an endearing adoration of milkshakes in that. Because not all of us are trying and going.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You wouldn't believe.

The amount of milkshakes I drink.

Also secretly, kind of like absolute poison for your body. The amount of ice cream you're consuming when you're drinking a milkshake is crazy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I remember one time we went. It was like. It was. Oh, God, I was like, sixth grade. And this, like. It was when they were starting to introduce calories on menus.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, right, right. And.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And I looked and I was so confused. I think it was like Ruby Tuesday. Cause I had gotten, like. We'd gotten the before, which was quesadilla as a appetizer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, sure.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And then, of course, I got, like, a burger or something. And then I had gotten, like, mozzarella sticks. And then I got a. I love the Cinderella. Of course, I was an athlete. And then I got my own big, like, milkshake. And I remember the milkshake was 2,000 calories. And my brain was like, wait, that's all I'm supposed to have in a day? Wait a minute. Oh, no. It's like, you probably shouldn't be having that as the drink.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's tr. Like emergency recovery food. It's like, that should only be served in hospitals for people who are like, we've got to get something into this body. And then I'm having one a week.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're having one a week? Yeah. Oh, my God. You really love milkshakes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love milkshakes when they're made.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, wait. My heart's broken that it's a curse, though.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That's.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's actually so.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Because when I get a bad one, I'll say, like, in and out. Their milkshakes no good.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay. Is it because they're firm?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, it's because they're there. It's the flavor. The flavor's not right. The chocolate doesn't taste like chocolate. Chocolate.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Actually, cuz. Malt cup. Let's not get into malts.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah. Malt's a whole other category, but people think that's chocolate. Malt is not chocolate. Malt can add a layer to a chocolate.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But it. You simply can't think it's a chocolate.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think you would respect. Have you ever, ever been to a Culver's?

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've been to one Culver's a long time ago, and it was kind of depressing inside.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

People love crisp.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're speaking demon language. I have no idea. It's one of the best places on earth. Yeah. Fried cheese curds.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It was, like, perfectly clean. Everything, but there was a sadness in the air.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Mr. Dell was in the corner.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Maybe I was just so. Maybe I was too excited to try because I had heard such good things about the milkshake.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Or maybe I go to your home and there's happiness, but I'm in a Culver's my whole life, and I have no idea.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting. Interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I have no idea. They're sad, but it's very successful in the Midwest. I don't think it's expanded much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, they made it to Utah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, good for them.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Which I believe, believe is the Intermountain West.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. It's just a spread because they have. What I think you might respect is something called concretes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Concretes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Where it's like, technically, the milkshake, but. And they offer milkshakes as well, which is thinner, but they're telling you the consistency.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. This is the concrete you eat with a spoon.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes. And I like that they're Communicating that they're not saying this is a milkshake.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Because that happens a lot.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Miscommunication.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, and on the east coast it gets even more confusing because they often call them fraps.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That. That's the worst. Friendlies. Does that just.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Where did the word.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's so weird. It's so weird. Cause then it goes to Frappuccino.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Because that has kind of been co opted by Starbucks.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And you also don't literally. It's probably based on the blender. And nobody presses frap for that. No, you're not even frapping it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I think you only frappe an Orange Julius.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Say the fuck that. That's an amazing truth.

[Bridger Weiniger]

East coast needs to wake.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The only thing that you should be frumping is an orange Julius. 100%. I loved that. Do you like the sidecar?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, with a milkshake. Yeah, love it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The little icy sort of tin.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh. To get even more.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

One of the best tastes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, it's fantastic.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, that one's really good. Where are you getting that these days though?

[Bridger Weiniger]

In Utah. I know. Leather bees.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sorry, what?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's called Leatherbees.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And I thought you said Leather Beast.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And it was sucked. That's a whole other sucks.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It's like, no, you shouldn't go there. You that call versus dark.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a very dark bar in Utah that serves milkshakes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What do you have to do?

Sounds like an Incredibles cologne.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, it's called Leatherbees. It's a very family friendly restaurant with terrible overhead lighting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Kind of took from apples in a way.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wait, what about apples?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Bees.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Bees. Oh, by apostrophe S. I think maybe a family name.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Got it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

But they serve an excellent milk milkshake. But they need to turn down the lights. Everybody. You go in there and you're like, oh, we all look terrible.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But is it a fast food place?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's more of a like a little ice cream parlor.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You have a waiter.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So just turn off the overhead lights and get a few lamps.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Are weaker. Taking a small business for its ambiance.

[Bridger Weiniger]

They can take it. All right, well, you've gotten one right, one wrong. Okay, this is the final one. If I can get into my computer here.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I know I got one wrong, but you have to believe me. I am a very good student as well. I have high iq.

Hi, puppies.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, the puppies. Here comes Bonnie. Bonnie is entering the picture for a moment.

She must be desperate to come out. She's entering, trying to get the recording equipment.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You're so Special. You're so special. Special, my love. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh, you are playing. I know, I know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, Bonnie is trying to turn Mo into a toy as well.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I got a scrunchie on that's very toy esque.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow. The interactions that the world is having with us right now in the podcast.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They're having fun and they want to join in.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Superdell is going to land in his hang glider and shoot me.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Also, the intro to your thing is.

He's gonna come into Psychlighter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Wow. If he's not in prison, he should do the parody.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Imagine.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, wow.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Everyone's just kind of like, what?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Feel that Super Dell. Oh, okay. Well, let's see here. We'll wait for.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What's Bonnie off after?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, who's she named after? Yeah, just. We like the name. I wanted to name. I actually wanted to name her Rani, after Ronnie sp. Inspector, because I love. But Jim didn't want her. Our last dog, Edie, was frequently called Eddie. And Jim's like, she's a little girl. He wants her to be a little girl for some reason. Bonnie and. Bonnie's a sweet name.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Why? Because it's. There's so many good associations. It's fun.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, yeah, Tons. A lot of good Bonnies. And I think it means beautiful.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, does it?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Annalise is basically confirming.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I mean, from my experience watching Outlander.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I don't know of Outlander. That's all you need.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Also, my friend, I have a. I have a fake Dalmatian in my house, and he's named Bone Chance. Eddie, because B O N E Chance.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, good. Good luck.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Right. And then. So it's Bone. Boney. Could be. Sometimes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Is a fun thing, right?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Just pitching out some really incredible stuff here. Give me that curse. Yep.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a curse. Two different people submitted this. Hannah and Kristen gift her a curse. Foaming hand soap.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Hannah and Kristen. Okay, girls, you should go talk to Colin. Foaming hand soap. I would identify it as a gift. I understand. People think, what is it? Like, it's not nitrates. What's the word in all the shampoos? Now you can't. Sulfates.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Sulfates.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I understand. You know, it can get chaotic as well if you have no sort of portion control, but it is identifying how much soap you do have in a visual, quick way, especially if you're in a. Like. If you're in, like, a coffee house or you don't. You don't want to spend a long time washing or whatever. You go, like, let Me see, Did I get soap? Yeah, I got soap, but. Oh, this is. I'm bad at context because. Are you talking about the one that goes automatically and gives you a wisp?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, interesting. I think is. All we know is it's a. It ends up foam on. On your hand.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And it doesn't start a foam. It works into a form.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, whatever the little dispenser is doing is. There's foam in there. I don't know how foam hands you. You're asking the wrong person.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I. I'm. I'm difficult, though. I like. I like from. In my whole life. I'm like, I can't answer that because I don't own the entire context.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You leave the podcast, literally.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They're like, do you like this? I'm like, well, I don't know. What day is it? We never talk again.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Delete the audio.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Foaming soap. I hate him. I'm kidding. Okay, Okay. I actually, you know what I say because of this experience, because of this chaos. Curse.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Curse.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wrong. I know. I felt it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's a gift. The slimy stuff has got to go.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sure.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's. I like either a foam or. Have you ever used the gritty powder?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's awful.

[Bridger Weiniger]

That stuff's very interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Does it lather?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It's almost. No, it's like, almost like exfoliating. I think it's more used, like, by mechanics.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Why are you using?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, at my dad's work, there are mechanics there, and as a kid, you'd go in and use this powder, and it was incredible.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It was so fun as a child.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Had that beautiful citrus smell. It was almost like rubbing sand all over your hands.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But it makes sense because also, it's oil, and you have to absorb an oil agent with a powder is. Yes. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So the slime's gotta go. We're done with the slime.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

We're doing foam or grit only.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What do you have in your home?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Foam.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You do? Well, because here's my thing.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Probably lying, but foam, I love that.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Hey, I. I support you lie to me, but my thing is there is not a diversity. Like, if I want to get, like, a little chic, like, ASAP sort of thing, they don't have a foaming agent.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. Aesop doesn't do the foam. Or do you think as a fancy soap, we're past ASOP now? As it's done, it's what's taking its place.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Take a boutique peak.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, really? Like, very local. Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because I think ASAP was a part of the era of, like, The Millennial Outdoor Voices soul cycle.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Sweet green.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right. It's no longer like a symbol like it used to.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

It was a disposable income symbol.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. So now people are like, we're over it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And it can't stay in the same way like Labo does because Leilabo's scent itself is unique and good.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Whereas Aesop is nice, but she's fresh.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

What do you like?

[Bridger Weiniger]

What do I like?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Smell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I kind. I kind of don't have any particular favorites, to be honest. I'm trying to think. I like a lavender. I like a. A woodsy. I love woodsy. Woodsy and citrusy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

A sandalwood.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I love that. I like. Not crazy about a tobacco.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I really like a tobacco.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You like a tobacco.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I laughed so hard, I almost. During the Sephora sale, the Tom Ford scent, I like that they took forever to release. It's like, called black lacquer.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And it's like, smoke tobacco y smell. And then I put it in my cart, and it was like, this is like a volatile agent. It will have to be ground delivered. It said what? And I think it's probably just certain perfumes. But it reminded me of the scene in Anchorman when Paul Rhett's character.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I've never seen that movie.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think you'd have fun.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I should give it a shot.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Are you of that. Did you like that era of movies?

[Bridger Weiniger]

What are we talking about here?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

The Apatow Ferrell 2005-2011 vibes.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm up and down on them, but I feel like this one I might be into.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I think if you're a little bit goofier, it's very goofy. But I think if you're into goofy and less like. I think other guys is the starter kit for someone like you.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, okay. I liked other guys. I remember liking other guys.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay, great. I think that's the good starter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, but you were going to say the volatile agent.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. Well, Paul Rudd's character has, like, Black Panther. This, like, scent that they have to come. It's like a bio agent, essentially. And he's like, the ladies love it. And then they have to hose him down.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Lie or something.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But it's a tobacco flavor.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, you got. It's a curse or. I mean, it's a gift. Whoops.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

See everything. I think we're all winning in the end. We're all.

[Bridger Weiniger]

God, put that on a poster.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God. What if this is the start of a poster company?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, my God.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And they're bad.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And a podcast not now. We're sitting on a gold mine here.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God, I'm sick.

[Bridger Weiniger]

All right, I think we should answer a listener question. Will you help me answer a question?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Absolutely.

[Bridger Weiniger]

People are writing in or sending voice notes to. I said no gifts. Gmail dot com. This is Bridger and Guest. I need your help. I need to buy a gift for my 90 year old Croatian grandma.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm Croatian.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You are.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Perfect. Wow.

[Bridger Weiniger]

This is incredible.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Keep the posters.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes. She doesn't need any more clutter. She can't really drive anywhere on her own anymore. And I live far away and she will be upset if I spend too much on postage. She always checks the postage and she is not tech savvy. What should I. Please help. And that's from brassy. You're Croatian.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, I. So I literally know all these, like. Yeah. One my great out. My rose. Who those belong to the way Croatians love postage.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I have.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I have every postage stamp from every era at every increment of money.

[Bridger Weiniger]

How do you think that is?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Scarcity. I don't know.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Interesting.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But I think I have the perfect gift. But I want you to pitch first.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Okay. No clue.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Clutter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Not tech savvy. And hates expensive postage.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And no clutter. I'm assuming because she already has knickknacks galore.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Obsession galore. So it's got to be light.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Small.

She's 90. So I'm trying to think of something. You know, I got on this podcast recently, was a head massager. One of the ones that's made of all the little wires.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So nice. Those are like, so like sensory.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Fantastic. Oh, except for at 90. Can you reach? Reach.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I know you're blocking her. Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Look at. You can't use grandma. And she's far away, so we don't quite know how far is she. Just far away. Which. Come on.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So not relative. Yeah. So. And she doesn't like if you spend too much money on post.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

So it can't be too heavy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So we've got to assume maybe a dollar postage. Max.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's crazy. That's actually crazy that you can only write. Write a letter.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah. Right. It's got to be a meaningful letter.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Well, okay. I can add to this. So I think one of you know the. The lavender. Speaking of what you're saying, in Croatia, what we used to do in all of my great aunts and all my other aunts homes and closets is they would put. They would press lavender and like almost like little potpourri bags, they would put it in every Closet of Croatian lavender. And so you'd find these little bags everywhere and, like, in the corner, closets of Croatian lavender. And so they could press lavender into, like, a book or something and just give that, like, Croatian lavender. Or they could put it in, like, a little potpourri bag that she could put in her closet and to have, like, the yesteryear smell.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, that sounds lovely.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Right? Feels light. Descend.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, Light, easy. If that's too much work, maybe a stick of gum.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, my God, that's so nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Easy peasy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Because if she doesn't have teeth.

It doesn't hurt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Send her a lifesaver.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Wait, I. Can I say something?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I was listening to Prep. I was listening to a podcast that you did on this podcast, and you indicated at one point in your life you were having half a stick of gum. And I got. I was listening. I went, that's, like, that's crazy. That's crazy.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, that's resourceful.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That. Because how do you. Does it disintegrate?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I'm not. I'm buying the highest quality gum rate.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Like, What? Like at two per hour. Like, that was C.R. eliz. I went, what the hell?

[Bridger Weiniger]

It worked for me.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm so glad it organically came up.

[Bridger Weiniger]

It worked for me. I, I. Now that you're bringing it up in such a nasty way.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yes, we are contention. Don't you forget it.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I might go back to half a stick. Wow. Although I'm no longer using stick gum. I'm using because I carry my gum in my purse, and I hate when the sticks get out and go crazy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

All over your stuff and they congeal on stuff. Oh, it's the worst.

[Bridger Weiniger]

So I put it, you know, I'm getting a dentist.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Okay.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And you're. There's no choice. I mean, if I was chewing half of that, that would be crazy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Have to bite it, fold it back up real nice in his little tin foil.

[Bridger Weiniger]

No, I was doing a half piece for a long time and swallowing every piece of it.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I have a question. What? Because my grandma was. When she'd have a cigarette in the garage, we'd get a piece of gum, and if there's two of my sister and I. Right. She would split it. I thought the chic thing to do if you have to split gum is to rip it when it's still in the foil.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Or.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Or do you rip it after?

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, in the foil. I'd say snap it in half.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Snap it. No. Really?

[Bridger Weiniger]

No. Like, fold it in half and then rip so it's nice and even.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Like your loose leaf.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yes, exactly.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Exactly.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And now I can't wait to restart my life as someone who chews half a piece of gum.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

But I like it because it's kind of intimate for me. Because I know you're doing it in resistance to me a little bit.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah, exactly. Every time there will just be.

I'll be chewing an angle. Violent. Okay, well, I think the potpourri. Or again, half of now we're downgrading half a piece of gum in an envelope. And maybe just a quick. Love your grandma.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And then she can't. I mean, if the grandma complains, she's created this trap for herself. I have the complaints.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I also think it's the grandma because you could write a letter. What if you tried to write a letter in, like, her native tongue? I think effort and, like, thoughtfulness when you can't have weight. Or text.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Or like, maybe a posted card from a place she used to be. Like, you just have to think nostalgically.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Right.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

You should. A restaurant. She like to go.

[Bridger Weiniger]

You're trying to bring this grandma to tears.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah. They need to feel they got a lot of war in their blood.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Yeah.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

They gotta cry it out.

I'm happy to do that.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, I think the grandma's gonna be happy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I hope.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Oh, to ruin a grandma's birthday.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That's fine. Care. She's had plenty.

[Bridger Weiniger]

She's been through enough.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Yeah, she's good. She forgot. She's like, you're too much.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, we answered the question perfectly. I have three gorgeous posters, and I've had a lovely time with you.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

I'm truly having the time of my life.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And look, now I have to send you home in the rain.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That is devastating. I didn't bring an umbrella.

[Bridger Weiniger]

I'm so sorry. I could. I do have an umbrella. Maybe I'll go grab it and bring. Take you to your car.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Oh, that would be cute.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Would you like that?

[Mo Fry Pasek]

That would be kind of nice.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Well, let's end the podcast. The listener. The podcast is over. We've got to deal with the rain. I love you. Goodbye.

I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Annelise Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

Man.

[Bridger Weiniger]

And we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

When I invited you here.

Thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home.

You gotta come to me empty handed. I said no guilt.

[Bridger Weiniger]

Your presence is presence enough.

[Mo Fry Pasek]

And I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me?

[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

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[Mo Fry Pasek]

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[Bridger Weiniger]

What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work so grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.