BOOKISH Naughty & Nice List

Summary

Podcast Summary: "BOOKISH Naughty & Nice List"

Podcast: I’ll Read What She’s Reading
Hosts: Reggie, Mikayla, and Kennedy
Episode Date: December 17, 2025
Episode Theme: The hosts share their “Naughty & Nice” lists for the year in bookish trends, based on both their experiences and listener submissions.

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Overview

In this festive and lively episode, the hosts of I’ll Read What She’s Reading dive into the bookish world’s “Naughty & Nice” lists—highlighting both personal grievances and delightful moments from the past year. Channeling the spirit of a chaotic, fun group chat, Reggie, Mikayla, and Kennedy review pet peeves, celebrate new releases and adaptations, and reflect on trends submitted by their podcast community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Naughty List: Bookish Grievances

(00:14–38:15)

• Uninspired Sprayed Edges

  • The hosts bemoan publishers who spray just solid colors on book edges, especially when anticipated special editions feel underwhelming.
    • “If you’re gonna spray the edges, just go a little extra mile. Like, why spray the edges if it’s just gonna be a solid color?” – Reggie (01:56)
  • Issues with black sprayed edges rubbing off (02:21).

• Unannounced or Delayed Releases

  • Frustration about highly anticipated releases like Pierce Brown’s Red God and ACOTAR 6 with no concrete release dates.
    • “Not having a release date makes me a little salty. No Red God release date.” – Reggie (03:31)
    • Speculation and theories on possible release timelines (04:12–05:24).
    • Listeners (and hosts!) are conflicted about pressuring authors but crave transparency.
      • “Let’s just leave the authors alone... We can be patient, because when we’re patient, the quality of the book goes up.” – Kennedy (19:14).

• Spoilers & Expiration Dates

  • Annoyance with spoilers posted online without warnings, whether on TikTok or Instagram.
    • “Anyone who doesn’t put a spoiler warning on a video…” – Reggie (05:59)
    • Debates on how long spoiler warnings should last (10 years? A month? No consensus!) (06:42–08:03).

• No Half-Star Ratings in Goodreads

  • The hosts wish Goodreads would allow half-star ratings and easier data syncing.
    • “I just really wish Goodreads would give half stars.” – Kennedy (08:29)

• Reading Slumps & Too Much “Spice”

  • Book slumps and excessive mature content (“spice”) are on the naughty list.
    • “Spice has taken me out of the story, gives me the ick, ruins my reading experience…” – Mikayla (10:29)
  • Preference for emotional build-up vs. relentless/overdone scenes.

• Over-Promoted Romantasy

  • Some new romantasy felt formulaic and repetitive this year.
    • “There was no real romantasy book that was released this year that I was completely obsessed with.” – Kennedy (14:37)

• Editing and Publishing Errors

  • Recent books (notably Brimstone by Cali Hart) have major continuity errors, likely due to razed publication timelines.
    • “Errors like that are going to catch like wildfire and it’s hard to get back from that.” – Mikayla (18:39)

• Pressuring Authors

  • The group discusses the ethics of hounding authors for release updates (with special consideration for Rebecca Yarros and Sarah J. Maas).

• Waiting on Unfinished Series

  • The pain of reading series starters and waiting years for sequels (25:18–26:49).

• Cringey or Overused Character Nicknames

  • “Sugar Tits”, “Darling”, “Reaper” – overused nicknames lose their charm fast (27:40–28:39).

• Reading Goal Anxieties

  • Stress from Goodreads goal tracking and feeling pressured to read quantity over quality (29:24–30:33).

• Movie Adaptation Disappointments

  • Regretting You film adaptation left much to be desired (32:03–32:52).

• Library App Frustrations

  • Upset about Libby’s interface updates and long library wait times (35:33–35:54).

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Listener Naughty List Submissions

(Interspersed, especially 15:55-38:54)

• Publishing errors (Brimstone)
• Badgering authors for updates
• Delay/lack of information on major releases (ACOTAR 6, Red God)
• Overused sprayed edges and solid colors
• Reading unfinished series and forgetting key details before the sequel
• Overused character nicknames (“Sugar Tits”, “Reaper”)
• Self-inflicted FOMO from book releases
• Pressure to meet reading goals
• Audiobook narrator mismatches

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Nice List: Bookish Highlights

(38:15–50:45)

• Upcoming Movie & TV Adaptations

  • Project Hail Mary (trailer and Gosling’s casting gets major hype)
    • “Ryan Gosling was the perfect casting.” – Kennedy (39:12)
  • Sunrise on the Reaping cast & early trailer elicit excitement and high expectations:
    • “Budget for that movie had to have been so insane. There is not one casting thing where I'm kinda like, 'eh'... I think everyone is going to do so well.” – Reggie (41:05)
  • Chestnut Springs adaptation is highly anticipated for its potential to evoke Yellowstone/Lonest Ride vibes (47:14-48:47).

• Everand & Fable Platforms

  • Praised for usability and features, including multiple audiobook credits per month (39:27–39:34).

• Recap Blog Posts by Authors

  • James Islington and Carissa Broadbent lauded for providing book recaps to help fans remember storylines before sequels.
    • “He wrote a 20 page blog post recapping The Will of the Many to prepare you to read The Strength of the Few.” – Kennedy (40:11)

• Duet Audiobook Narration

  • Preferred over single narrators; enhances immersion if both actors are solid (43:10–43:41).

• Graphic Audio Adaptations

  • Love for dramatized/“graphic audio” versions of popular fantasy books (44:43–46:46).
  • Call for easier chapter delineation for syncing with print/ebook copies.

• Duologies & Standalone Stories

  • Shorter fantasy formats that don’t demand years of commitment are appreciated (46:50–46:54).

• Strong Male Leads with Emotional Depth

  • Shield of Sparrows cited for getting the “broody yet soft” male protagonist just right (44:23).

• Community Kindness

  • Shoutouts to listeners who DM Hunger Games edits, participate in episodes, and support merch/Patreon.
    • “Every single person that’s listening... that literally makes my day. You may—they make me cry most of the time, but I think it's a very sweet gesture...” – Reggie (42:29)

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Listener Nice List Submissions

• Shield of Sparrows by Sirena Woods (most-mentioned “nice” book)
• Audiobook features & duet narration
• Upcoming movie/TV adaptations (Sunrise on the Reaping, Project Hail Mary, The Housemaid, etc.)
• Graphic audio editions for fantasy series

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sprayed Edges Petty Gripe

  • “If you’re going to spray the edges, just go a little extra mile.” – Reggie (01:56)

• Release Date Limbo

  • “The thing about Red God is he knows he has a cult and a following. He can wait as long as he wants and people will still read it.” – Kennedy (04:19)

• Spoiler Warning Rant

  • “Regardless of how long it’s been, it’s not that hard to just put spoiler warning before your video.” – Reggie (08:01)

• Half-Star Humor

  • “You don’t give me a half star rating in middle school, so y’all have been out for forever. It can’t be that hard of coding.” – Kennedy (09:43)

• Spice Discontent

  • “Spice has taken me out of the story, gives me the ick, ruins my reading experience.” – Mikayla (10:29)

• Film Adaptation Hype

  • “Ryan Gosling was the perfect casting.” – Kennedy (39:12)

• Community Appreciation

  • “Every single person that’s listening... that literally makes my day.” – Reggie (42:29)
  • “If you listen to this podcast, we are your friends.” – Kennedy (52:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:14–15:55: Hosts’ personal Naughty List (sprayed edges, spoilers, romance tropes, unfinished series, bad nicknames, etc.)
• 15:55–25:00: Listener Naughty List submissions and reactions
• 25:00–38:15: More community gripes; detailed discussion on publishing delays, series gaps, reading slumps, adaptation fails
• 38:15–50:45: Nice List—Book adaptations, author recaps, audio innovations, standalones, community appreciation
• 50:45–54:09: Final gratitude to listeners and wrap-up

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Episode Tone

True to the show's spirit, this episode is playful, candid, and filled with friendly banter. The hosts riff off each other and the audience, creating a sense of camaraderie and shared bookworm culture. Listeners are drawn into the group-chat energy, with frequent tangents and relatable pet peeves, but always circling back to positive moments and genuine appreciation for their community.

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Final Thoughts

Whether venting about minor annoyances or hyping up favorite releases, the I’ll Read What She’s Reading crew puts a fun, personal spin on the ups and downs of a reader’s life. The episode is a mix of humor, insightful hot takes, and heartfelt thanks—a joyful wrap-up for book lovers heading into the new year.

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For More:

• Find the hosts’ book club picks and future discussion topics on Instagram: @whatshesreadingpod
• Merch and more at: illreadwhatshesreading.com

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“You guys deserve the nicest gifts under your tree from Santa Claus… we are so incredibly thankful.” – Kennedy (52:23)

Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to I'll read what she's reading. I'm Reggie.

[A]

I'm Michaela.

[C]

And I'm Kennedy.

[B]

And we're chatting your naughty and nice list today. In the spirit of Christmas, we did this episode last year, and it was kind of fun to see the things you guys are putting on your lists. We're making our list.

[C]

It's checking it twice. Gonna find out who's not.

[B]

You didn't know this was a musical episode, but welcome IRWSR is coming to die. Hey, every good show needs a musical episode, you know? Anyways, yeah, so we're gonna be going through. So basically, if you miss our Instagram stories, listeners, followers submitted, what would go on your nice list of the things that you're like, yes, this gets. This gets at a. A. Okay, this was a great part of my year. And then obviously the naughty list is, what are the things in your reading experiences in the bookish world that get a lump of coal big fat. So my question for you guys, do we start with the naughty list or the nice list?

[A]

Let's start with the naughty.

[C]

Naughty, Naughty.

[B]

Let's hear your naughty naughties.

[A]

Are you gonna. Are we gonna start with ours first?

[B]

Oh, yes. I do have some things on my naughty list.

[C]

Reggie has some grievances.

[B]

You have some qualms first thing. And these are some really nitpicky. I'm scared. I hate when they spray the edges of the book, but they don't. It's literally just a solid color. Oh, I do not like that. I'm like. Because, like, for example, my iron flame that I have, I thought I was getting a sprayed edges version.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

It's just black. It doesn't match my other.

[A]

I think it's all black like the first releases.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm like, I thought it.

[C]

Was gonna be dragons.

[B]

Yeah, but like, if you're gonna spray the edges, just like, go. Just go a little extra mile. Like, why spray the edges? It was just gonna be a solid color. I'd rather it just be almost like, plain. Maybe that's an unpopular opinion, but I.

[A]

Don'T think it's unpopular. I think with iron flame specifically, they did only black because they said they. That was how they could get it done faster.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Also, you guys ever know, maybe this is just me because I have sweaty hands. Have you ever noticed that all black books with black sprayed edges, it will think comes off on your fingers?

[B]

No, that's another reason for me to add it to the naughty list.

[A]

I just think people have gotten a bit excessive with sprayed edges.

[C]

They're not special anymore.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. I. I like a pretty sprayed edge, but if you're just going to paint it, like, a solid color, it doesn't make it that exciting. Like, just make my book a few dollars cheaper if you can, and just save yourself from all the effort of spraying it one color.

[A]

Well, I also feel like it makes it a conflicting thing. Like, do I showcase my sprayed edge on my bookshelf, or do I showcase the actual title? I'm not gonna be the best at memorizing all my spread edges.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Versus, like, my titles of books.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I like my. I kind of have my fourth wing books with the sprayed edges out. But then my poor little iron flame is just got the black sprayed edges, no drag.

[C]

But, like, those are cool and you know exactly, exactly what it is.

[B]

But it makes me want to buy the one with the sprayed edges so they match on my bookshelf. Yeah, that's how to get you the little Naughty Naughty. Okay, that's one of mine. I can share more.

[C]

Give us another one.

[B]

You know, this might be popular in the Naughty comments, but I only say it's naughty because it says on Goodreads that it's being released this next year. And not having a release date makes me a little salty. No Red God. Release date.

[C]

He was on my naughty list for that last year.

[B]

Yeah, last year. And here's the thing is, like, we've chatted with Pierce, and we understand that he wants to make it perfect, and he's taking his time, and we can appreciate that. But it would be one thing if it didn't have. It wasn't even on Goodreads. There's just something about it being on Goodreads, saying It's coming in 2026 without a release date. It just kind of irks me a little bit. But, like, that's me being a little dramatic.

[A]

I thought you were gonna say pen calls.

[B]

No, I don't really care anymore. I'm not gonna lie. I don't even know if I will read it.

[C]

Oh, see, that's the thing. I. The thing about Red God is he knows he has a cult and a following. He can wait as long as he wants and people will still read it. It's almost like the hype just keeps building and building. And I also think that. I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but book chalk, especially the book girlies. Everyone has been reading Red Rising in the last, like, two months. Have you noticed that. And so I think it's just building more and more hype. I would be very, very surprised if it does not release at some point in 2026. This is my theory. I've told these two already. I think he's done. I just think he's in the editing stage because there's no way he would be doing as much press as he is if he was still in the thick of writing his first draft. He went to Dragonsteel. He just was in London. He did another book signing. He did the one in Arizona. He's been doing all of these podcast interviews. I just think. I think he's done with the first draft, and it's in editing, personally. So I think we're going to get it in 2026.

[B]

According to Goodreads.

[C]

We are.

[B]

It's on, like, Goodreads. It says summer of 2026. Releases.

[A]

It says expected June 30, 2026.

[C]

Oh, guys, it's. Everyone's going to freak out wherever he announces that release date. Probably on lit escalates. I just.

[B]

How hell will break?

[C]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Yeah. I'm looking forward to that day.

[C]

I mean, honestly, that would have been on my naughty list, but I didn't put it on my naughty list because I felt like it was too predictable of me to put on my naughty list.

[B]

So, yeah, I mean, Pierce, we'd love.

[C]

To do an interview with you if you want to, you know, announce the release date of Red God exclusively on our podcast.

[B]

Yeah. Just for the girlies.

[A]

The book Girlies.

[B]

My other one. I had this on my naughty list last year. I could technically put it on the nice list and flip the way I say it. But just anyone who doesn't put a spoiler warning on a video on TikTok or Instagram.

[C]

Do you guys feel like it's gotten better? Yeah, I think it has, actually.

[A]

A lot.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

Yeah. I think it just depends on, like, what I'm reading at the time, because it's like, I remember doing my Throne of Glass reread. I was on, like, throne of glass TikTok, and the amount of TikToks that I saw that were, like, so amazing blew me my mind. Or just like, you know, and then I was like, that did not have spoiler warning on it. Like, that would have broke my heart a year and a half or two years ago if I would have seen that before. Or, like, in the middle of my Throne of Glass read.

[A]

When do you think Expiration.

[C]

That's what I was just gonna Say.

[A]

Expire for Throne of Glass. Because the Throne of Glass book, I think, came out in 2014.

[C]

I would say 10 years for each.

[A]

Book at the very least.

[B]

At the very least.

[C]

Hang on.

[B]

Harry Potter. At this point, if you throw a fit that you've gotten a spoiler for Harry Potter, it's like, you know, throwing a glass.

[C]

But then I think about. I think about movies and TV shows, and in my head I'm like, I have a month.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

So I don't know. I don't know what that expiration date would be. At the very least, like 10 years feels like a long time, actually.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because, for example, if I got a spoiler for Game of Thrones that's been out for forever. Harry Potter. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there isn't an answer. But I do think that sometimes, depending on like how seasoned of a reader you are too. I don't know. Like, if I hadn't read like Crescent City yet and I got a Crescent City spoiler, I would. I feel like I can't be too upset because it's like I haven't read it yet and it's been out and I know it hasn't been out for like super long, but when I got my first Crescent City spoiler before I even read it, that broke my heart into a million pieces.

[C]

But that was. I think when you probably. That was probably less than a year.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

So maybe the time frame is a year.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[C]

Spoiler warnings always.

[B]

But the thing is, is regardless of how long it's been, it's not that hard to just put spoiler warning.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Before your video.

[C]

I do. I can kind of understand in some situations for getting a spoiler warning, I guess. No, no, I can't actually. Never mind.

[B]

I don't feel like there's that much.

[A]

I mean, but.

[B]

Excuse.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know. There's no excuse. Spoiler warnings.

[B]

Those are my naughties. I'm sure I'll think of more as we read your responses.

[C]

I'm. I mean, the only one that really came to my mind. And it's like so lame because everybody complains about it, but I just really wish goodreads would give half stars. I love. I love Fable with my whole heart and soul, but for some reason, it's not the first app I pick up when I go to read a book, write a book. I think it's just cause it's goodreads. Is so ingrained in my brain.

[B]

Well, also my. My Fable. I just feel like I'm so dedicated to my Goodreads because I've put so much work and effort into adding things. And I know you can sync your Goodreads to Fable, but my Fable never correctly syncs my Goodreads. It's always off. And so it's hard for me to, like, go in there to, like, add stuff because my Goodreads is never updated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I. Yeah.

[A]

I also think Fable does have more features, but I feel like it almost does it a disservice having as many features as it does, because I think what Goodreads has going is simplicity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I'm looking at Fable right now, and I'm like. And Goodreads, you know exactly what you're getting with it. I don't know. I also agree. Goodreads is my first pick. It's also been out for years and years and years and years.

[C]

You don't give me a half star rating in middle school, so y' all have been out for forever. It can't be that hard of coding.

[A]

Just to be, like, bloop.

[B]

And I know people will get mad at us and say, you shouldn't be using a Goodreads. You should use, like, storygraph or something. Even though I should. We should look into it. Okay.

[C]

I am a creature of habit. I hate change. It took me a month and a half to update my phone to the newest iOS because it changed.

[A]

Yeah. I still haven't.

[B]

I haven't either.

[A]

Guys.

[C]

It's freaky. It's freaky. I don't know how I like it.

[A]

Anyway, it's different for sure.

[C]

Yeah. I'm just a creature of habit.

[A]

Um, I think my. My naughty list goes without, say, reading slumps. Yeah. And right now on my naughty list is spice.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I feel like in the past month and a half, two months, specifically, what I've been picking up, the spice has taken me out of the story, gives me the ick, ruins my reading experience. I've had to start skipping spice.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

And not that I'm completely against spice, but when done well, it doesn't ruin my experience.

[B]

I also think I saw a TikTok on this. Who's that cute girl on TikTok that has, like, the curly red hair? I wish I knew her name off the top of my head. She was reading a certain book, I won't say what, and she was saying that she's skipping, like, every single spicy scene because there's so many and it's taking away from the plot. She's like, once that tension is gone, and it's like the. They're just, like, released together and they're just, like, going at it. It's like, especially in a fantasy book, it doesn't contribute to the plot. Whereas, like, when there's a lot of tension and buildup and there's a little more of, like, a slow burn, if you will, you finally get to the spice and you're like, yes. Like, you're excited about it, and then it kind of loses its flavor the more you continue on, because it's not part of the plot necessarily, like, you know what I mean?

[C]

And also, sometimes authors just get too aggressive with it. Yeah.

[B]

And I know people like that, and that's fine. I mean, there's some books that have great spice in them, but I think maybe I'm speaking for you, Mihaela, but, like, I know for me, what makes good spice is like the. The build up to it. Because then you're just like, heck, yeah. I mean, sometimes it's also not written in a way that I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't need all that detail.

[A]

But I also think I'm a person who. I'm not saying you can't be kinky or can't have kinks when it comes to, you know, spice, but I think I. I, at the beginning parts of a relationship, want to see intimacy and not, like, how wild can we get?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I get you.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

And then.

[A]

But that's just like, that's my personal preference because I. I feel like I'm seeing this couple, like, start to grow feelings for each other and then to deepen their feelings with spice in a more romantic way is how I prefer a book than, like, let's get rough and wild.

[C]

I'm sure you really loved people watching.

[B]

Then that's why Michaela's bringing this up.

[A]

No, what are you.

[C]

What are you talking about? I don't know what you.

[A]

No, I. They had such sweet parts to the book.

[C]

I know, I know.

[A]

Completely buried. I know, I know. By this list. Sorry.

[C]

That's how she really feels.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Nothing wrong with spice. No.

[C]

But I've read quite a few books where I was like, this spice is so great. I think just lately. Yeah. It's just been, you know, it does it well.

[A]

Emily Henry, Abby Jimenez, I feel like, does spice so well.

[C]

It's because there's that emotional depth to go along with it.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I also have such A hard time. When I'm, like, reading a book, it's more so when it's. We don't have to harp on spice, because I like me some spice. Okay. But when I get to a chapter and I'm listening and I can tell exactly where it's going, next chapter is 34 minutes spice. And I'm literally like, this is 34 minutes of just straight sex. I don't need 34 minutes long.

[A]

Yeah, there's a time and place for sure.

[B]

I also get a little let down when I'm reading a romance book and the spice happens a little too quickly.

[C]

I'm like, oh, give me the urine. Give me the Jonathan Bailey.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Give me Jonathan Bailey.

[A]

Give me Jonathan Bailey. That's the only thing I can think of on my naughty list right now. But I'm sure when we read the submissions, I'll be like, yeah.

[B]

Huh?

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Abso freaking lutely. Did you have one?

[B]

Are we ready for it? Maybe you do.

[C]

I was having a really hard time thinking of naughty stuff that just wasn't like your typical.

[A]

You had a hard time thinking of naughty stuff?

[C]

Naughty stuff. The only one I could maybe think of is on my naughty list for the most part of this year was Romantasy, just because a lot of it felt the same and I just needed something fresh or it felt fresh. The plot was there, but then there was too much spice, or I didn't like the main characters, or there was no real Romantasy book that was released this year that I was completely obsessed with.

[B]

And that's all. Yeah.

[A]

I think we need to start reading some older books for real. No, seriously, that's my goal. I know that we can't be excited about new releases and stuff, but I.

[C]

Feel like the publishers know what's popular. I mean, it's funny. We were at Dragonsteel and it was Pierce Brown, Brandon Sanderson, Matt Deniman, and Tor Tommy.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I can't remember her last name. She was freaking cool, though. And they were talking about how publishers, basically, when something's popular, that's what they look for. And so that's why we're seeing this uptake in Romantasy that feels the same, is because publishers know that if they publish it, it's going to get bought.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because the book early. Yeah. We just need something different. And I'm interested to see what comes with the next year, so.

[B]

All right. I will share a response from somebody.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna piggyback off of this and see if you guys have seen stuff about Brimstone and the publishing errors that happened.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And like, how there's a lot of like, grammatical errors and stuff like that. Someone said the Brimstone, the publishing errors distracting me. And it felt like too many big things happen.

[B]

Yeah. The biggest one I saw is that there's a certain character who. It said that he is in a different place, but then in the chapter it says that he's there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Or like something about someone wearing a certain clothing. And then like the next sentence it'll be like them wearing a shirt. And then the next one be like wearing a dress.

[C]

Oh, like.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So like just inconsistencies. But yeah, the one I saw was. It's like someone leaves to go train somewhere, but then all of a sudden they're like in the next chapter. They're like in the room, in the conversation.

[C]

You know, I can understand if there's. What I will give them one, maybe two. Especially if it's a. If it's a error like that. The fact that there's so many. That's just completely unacceptable. How does that happen?

[A]

Do you not have multiple editors released too soon?

[C]

Yeah, I think that's a lot of people.

[A]

That's what happens when you push out a book and you're not, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. The thing is, I understand like, typos when you're plotting out in continuity error. Yeah. Like, I think that's a different story.

[C]

It's the same thing when like, did you guys see the one in Stranger Things where their marks. You could see the. Their tape marks on the floor as they were walking through the forest in one of the scenes. And it's literally bright blue and bright like, red.

[A]

I didn't see that.

[C]

I saw it on Tick Tock. It's just things like that that shouldn't happen.

[A]

Yeah. Like, where's her editor being like, okay, you said this person was going this way. Why is he in this conversation? Clearly, I don't think it's completely on Cali Hart. Is that.

[B]

Yeah. Who.

[A]

I think her publishing team.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Did her so dirty for sure. Because those are the people who are supposed to be like, having your back, making sure that success.

[B]

She's the one getting a lot of the hate.

[A]

Yeah. And so I don't think it's solely on Kelly Hart because I get it. When you're writing a book, that's a lot of elements to a lot of characters to like, be like, where are they at right now? But her editing team did not Do a good job at helping her succeed in that aspect.

[C]

So that's really sad.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it does come. I think Reggie, you just said it comes back on her. Unfortunately.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Doesn't come back to the. Well, maybe a little bit on the publishers, but yeah, that shouldn't happen.

[A]

Especially at the day and age that we're at. Like, errors like that are going to catch like wildfire and it's hard to get back from that.

[C]

Well, I think, you know, it goes back to the publishing thing where they want to publish what's popular and sometimes I think publishers and maybe authors. Actually, I don't even think it's authors. I think it's the publishers pushing the authors to hurry with the next book so that the hype doesn't die down. And that's just unfortunate.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's sad. So sorry, I just wanted to start out with that one.

[C]

Speaking of, this one goes along. Oh, people who comment under the author's post that's not book related, asking about the next one. Listen, let's just leave the authors alone. They have a personal life as well. They're not just sitting at their desk slaving away. We can be patient because when we're patient, the quality of the book goes up.

[A]

Yeah, hopefully. Well, I think it's also okay to comment and talk about it with like friends or like have a conversation on TikTok about it. But when you're like badgering the author. Yeah, I think that's an issue. You know, they.

[C]

We gotta, we gotta love our authors a little bit. Let them, you know, have a personal life.

[A]

Yeah. Like, Rebecca Yarros has been slaving away. Her publishing team has been putting her through the ringer. Didn't she say she released like five books in like two years or something like that?

[C]

It had to have been. Yeah. And she's like, I just needed a break.

[A]

I'm like, I want the next book as badly as another person. But also I'm like, I wouldn't want her to suffer mentally and physically because of it.

[C]

But then let's also talk about this. Sorry, I'm talking about another one that someone put on. Someone put on here. The fact that Sarah J. Maas hasn't given us anything for ACOTAR 6.

[A]

She's naughty.

[C]

That's so funny. No, because we literally just were saying, don't badger her. But now we're like, give us something.

[A]

The thing is, I, I think it's different than me like harassing her on comments, scamming her. I think it's not. I mean, it's been like two years.

[B]

Did you guys see that? Blooms. Bloomsbury. Unpinned. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The Crescent. Or no, the acotar was the Akatar 6 or was it the Crescent City?

[C]

It was something to do with her.

[B]

They either unpinned the Crescent City 3, like, announcement, which obviously that's over a year old. Two years old anyways. Or it was the. The announcement that, like, the drafts are finished. Rakhtar 6. So people are, like, speculating, like, oh, what's their next pin post gonna be?

[C]

I think even just give us a title. A title.

[A]

Yeah. I think also the author thing is situational meaning, like, sorry, now let's make some exceptions. I will say, like, not saying Rebecca Yaris is perfect, but she has, like, said, like, guys, I just need a break.

[C]

Or, like.

[A]

And I think people can be understanding of that. But when it's been crickets.

[C]

Radio silence. Yeah.

[A]

From Sarah J. Maas. Like, even, like, when her anniversary of how long, like, nothing, you know, and so I'm sure she's. She's writing, she's busy, but also, like, I'm sure she has, like, a social media team or something that can be.

[B]

Like, yeah, like, Sarah's busy writing, like.

[C]

Give me the color of the COVID I don't even need the title. Just give me the color.

[B]

Yeah, I think just. I think fans appreciate transparency. And so I think that's why, like, with Rebecca Garrus, I'm just like, let her cook, Let her cook.

[C]

Let her do it.

[B]

She's been very, like, she's very active on social media, which that alone has got to be pretty exhausting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, I can appreciate that. And I know that, like, Sarah. Oh, I was gonna say, I guess with Sarah, it's like, yeah, it has been this long with literally, like, nothing that. It's like, at this point when we get some news, I mean, I'm going to be excited.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But also, I'm just at. I, Like, I'm starting to not lose my interest, but I'm just kind of like, it's past. It's to the point of, like, annoyance a little bit, unfortunately. Whereas, like, I know onyx or the fourth. Fourth wing book, it's probably not coming out until, like, 2027. I think she said, we'll probably get.

[A]

That before ACOTAR 6.

[C]

Probably.

[B]

And at that. And the thing is, is I'm like, okay, that, like, it's gonna be 2027. I just think, like, having that in my mind just makes me feel like a little like I have less hard.

[C]

Feelings having an expectation.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And maybe she just likes to drive us crazy, give us a really far fetched expectation, tell us 2029 and then when it comes out in 2027, then.

[B]

I don't have to lose sleepovers, you know?

[A]

Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry, I. I'm.

[B]

Sure I should have started this with why was I worried about Pierce Brown? I forgot about Sarah. See, that's the thing. I've kind of forgotten about her a little bit.

[A]

I have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, it's crazy because the last ACOTAR book was in 2021 and then she.

[C]

Did publish Crescent City.

[A]

Yeah, but it's crazy. A five year gap. If it releases this year, if it's next year, that six year gap between book five and book six. That's crazy.

[C]

That is crazy. Maybe she's just never going to finish it. Like some of those other fantasy authors, like Pat Roth, Patrick Roth or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, I would riot.

[A]

It would suck because she gave us the expectation of the next book coming out. But also I wouldn't like, I would be at peace if I. Yeah, I would be at peace. Like she gave us that expectation that she's like, the draft is done for ACOTAR 6 and she's like, I'm never gonna release it. I don't know. Sorry, sorry.

[C]

We just went off on that tangent.

[B]

And then here we were like kind of complaining about House of Flame and Shadow because I just like felt like it was like done too quickly.

[C]

But you want to know what? I do feel like that was the complete consensus. So now she's saying, haha, you guys said it was too fast. Now I'm gonna make you wait. You know, I would much rather wait. I would much rather wait two years than wait less time and have it.

[A]

Not be what I wanted.

[C]

Like it'd be perfect for it to have continuity errors or, you know, lackluster.

[A]

Mm, it'll be okay. Yeah.

[C]

Moving on.

[B]

Anyways, Moving on. No, I've already seen three people and I didn't look at these before. Three people say, oh no, only two. One person said, well, I mean, I haven't looked through all of them. Every single book having sprayed edges and then someone saying, single colored sprayed edges.

[C]

Dang. You're not alone.

[B]

I'm not alone in that. The one I was going to share is because I just think this is kind of funny. All the books I read that were in the. The first in an unfinished series. Why do I do this to myself? Oh, seriously, it's like you're Putting yourself on the naughty list a little bit.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

I just think there's so much hype around. Like, for example, there's like Metal Slinger, Direbound form.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Shield of Sparrows. All these things that a lot of people are reading, giving, singing their praises to. And I'm like, oh, I have fomo. Like, I want to read that. But then I think about it, like, for example, when the moon hatched.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The second one comes out.

[B]

The second book. It comes out in not yet February, I think June. The end of February. Or is it June? Anyways, it's coming out within the first six months of this next year.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, I don't remember. I don't remember very much from when the moon hashed. Like, I'm gonna have to sit and either reread it, which it was a big book, or I'm gonna have to watch some three hour recap video.

[C]

We should just go watch our episode.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

[C]

So it comes out April.

[B]

April. Okay. I was way off, but I thought.

[A]

It was January, so I was.

[B]

Anyways, I just think that I love when there's like a new series coming out that everyone is really loving. But having to wait in between is really exhausting. Like we've just talked about. But it's really, it's. It just can be really hard to start a new series when it's like just barely. The first book just barely released.

[A]

So that's why I'm in my reading older books era. Not like, not like classics, but like how nice it is that for me especially like we read Rising in a time where we really haven't had to wait that long comparatively to like the start of releasing. It wasn't in like 2013.

[C]

Well, I want to say between Lightbringer and Red. God, it's like a four year gap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we really haven't had to wait as long as some other people.

[C]

I'm over here waiting for a year, begging.

[A]

Yeah. Like chill out. So. But how nice is it that we read it at a time where like, it's pretty much complete. You don't have to wait a year or two in between each release. So. Yeah. Ooh, this one. I completely agree. Bad nicknames. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, and overused. Yeah. What's the one I just read? Hopeless Sugar Tits.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Alrighty. We get it.

[C]

Whitney City Baseball Daddy. Yeah.

[B]

It's like, it's cute the first time and then it's like, I don't know.

[C]

If Sugar Toots was ever cute, but.

[B]

I know what you're saying, it's just like, oh, sweet. That's so funny. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

[A]

Book I'm reading right now, she calls him Reaper. Reaper.

[C]

Reaper.

[A]

I mean, it's like a fantasy. Okay.

[C]

I'm like, wait, is this Reaper?

[A]

But she uses it a lot. She's like, reaper's doing this. And then she's like. And then she uses his actual name. And I'm like, but you just called him Reaper. I don't know.

[C]

You know, this is kind of how I felt about Powerless. Like, I loved Darlin at first.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then it was used so much that I kind of was like, yeah.

[B]

Or like, little. Not even nicknames, but just, like, little catchphrases that you're like, okay, it's losing its flavor.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Naughty list, Lump of coal.

[A]

I feel like it's almost better if they use nicknames less, because then I'm like, oh, my gosh, he is that nickname. Yes. And he's only done it twice.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. Not someone saying, whoever had the idea to read Soul Searching for a book club book?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Wait, what?

[C]

Seriously?

[B]

Yeah. Someone literally said, whoever had the idea to read Soul Searching Sweet Water Peak with a tongue sticking out emoji.

[A]

Oh, that might have been me.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

Like, literally, like, not an emoji, but, like, the colon.

[A]

P. I like it. I like your style.

[C]

I like your style. Someone said, pressure for reading goals. Slash, not having enough time to read. Yeah. Especially this time.

[A]

I don't think I'm going to make my reading goal.

[C]

I'm not either.

[A]

And I am trying to be okay with that.

[C]

My type A personality is like, yeah, if there's an itch, I'm never going to.

[A]

I think I'd rather read better quality books than, like, shorter books just to, like, reach my reading goal. Yeah.

[C]

You know, and pick books that I'm not excited to read. Just. Just to reach my reading goal.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think right now. What is today's date? December 8th.

[B]

Recording this on the 8th.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

December 8th. Today I think I have to read 13 books, which would average.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Mine is literally 20, so that's not happening.

[B]

Well, not to toot my own horn, but I have one left. But also, my reading goal was, like, half of what your guys's was.

[C]

What was Your reading goal?

[B]

75.

[A]

Mine was 125. That's what I have.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

It's like.

[B]

Well, also. Okay, here's the thing. Would you guys feel the pressure of your reading goal if Goodreads didn't have that feature.

[C]

No.

[B]

On it.

[C]

No, I don't think so. Because I probably wouldn't set a reading goal for myself.

[A]

No, probably not. Because before I got on Goodreads, I was so funny and I had, like, a notebook.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

I wrote down all of, like, the books I read that year. And I think I read, like, I think I read that year when I first got back into, like, reading for the first time. I think I read physically, like, 55 books. Dang. Like, I didn't have any audio. I didn't have, like, Audible. I didn't have Libby. I didn't have hoopla. I read 55 physically.

[C]

That's a lot.

[A]

Which is a lot, not having, like, any audio books. I feel like you want to know.

[C]

What Goodreads could do? Somehow, some way it'd be cool if you. Or any reading tracking app, if there was like, a thing you could check to see if you listened to it or read it.

[B]

Yeah, maybe Fable has that.

[C]

Actually, honestly, wouldn't surprise me.

[B]

So, I mean, I don't actually want to know what mine is. It would probably be like, you listened to 90 of your books this year, and then people would say, I'm not actually.

[C]

If it makes you feel any better, mine is probably like, I don't know how many books I actually read from start to finish without listening to. It's just. Well, number one, it's hard having time. And number two, when you're reading a book that you're really loving, like, if I have to drive, that's what I want to listen to. I don't want to have to listen to something else. I want to keep going in that story, so. Oh, guys, we haven't talked about this.

[A]

Tell me.

[C]

Someone said regretting you. I don't know if they made the book or the movie, but the movie. You guys should have seen our group.

[A]

Chat during the movie.

[B]

We like to text during movies.

[A]

We're so weird. Weird. It was okay.

[C]

Yeah, we'll put it on the naughty list.

[B]

I mean, it was my lowest rated Colleen Hoover book.

[A]

So.

[C]

James Franco.

[A]

Wait, James.

[B]

James Franco.

[C]

Dave.

[B]

Dave Franco.

[C]

No, James.

[B]

Dave Franco.

[C]

Dave.

[B]

Dave Franco.

[A]

Dave.

[C]

Dave Franco in that movie.

[A]

Why was his voice like this the entire time? I don't know. That was a really good impression.

[B]

Thank you. They also, like, changed things from the book that I was like, why did this did not need to, like, it would have been so easy for you to have not have changed that to, like, make the plot make a little more sense.

[A]

You know, a lot of potholes Potholes.

[C]

Plot holes. Potholes, too.

[A]

Potholes. It just was okay.

[B]

Yeah. I thought that McKenna Grace and what's his bucket.

[C]

Little cutie hiccup.

[B]

They were the best actors in the entire movie. They were so cute. I love them. Together, they're going to be a force.

[C]

To be reckoned with. I think moving forward, both of them.

[B]

I mean, McKenna Grace literally is starring in everything right now.

[C]

She's in Five Nights Freddy's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sunrise on the Repeat. Did you see her Halloween costume?

[A]

No.

[B]

What was it she dressed up as? The thing that her in Sunrise on the Reaping. I mean, that's not really a spoiler. Think about it.

[A]

Did you guys. Did you guys see the interview? She's doing press for Five Nights at Freddy's.

[C]

Josh Hutcherson and Josh Hutcherson is in Five Nights at Freddy's. Yeah. And they interview her and they basically tell her about. So they interview Josh Hutcherson by himself and they're like, did you know your.

[A]

Co star McKenna Grace used to post tick tock thirst traps to PETA? Yeah, I did see that. And then she. She was devastated.

[C]

She was like, why did you tell him no one. I was gonna start a movie with him. I never would have done that. Just such a. I don't know how old she is, but just such a very young girl reaction. It just was so funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I'm full circle for her.

[A]

But I don't blame her. Don't blame her.

[C]

I do think we are going off on a tangent right now. I do think he is in Sunrise on the Reaping just based on his reactions when he gets asked about it. I think he's in it.

[B]

I'm telling myself he's not. I'm telling myself I think he makes.

[A]

A cameo, not why would he be in it.

[B]

I don't know. I'm telling myself. I am telling myself.

[C]

I mean, I feel like that's one of those.

[A]

Never mind. I was being sarcastic. Oh, okay.

[B]

I. I am telling myself that we're not gonna get any cameos of people. I'm telling you. Nope. Set my expectations.

[C]

I mean, what, do you hear voices literally in the trailer?

[B]

I'm setting my expectations. Under the ground, like six feet under. They're just to the center of the earth, even.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I can't. I can't hold the hope that we get any of that.

[C]

That's gonna be on the nice list in 2026. You watch?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Can I say this Naughty list one. Because this actually is a stab at me. Yeah, Beartown by Frederick Bachman. I'm just gonna leave.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

No, I think it's a very. I understand. I get why. I get why.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's insulting.

[C]

I'm insulted. I'm offended. Just kidding. It's a very niche book. Yeah, not niche, but like I feel like you have to have a certain. Be in a certain place in your life and have mindset.

[B]

Someone said buying too many physical books and then just reading them on Kindle. Yeah, that's pretty naughty. I'm guilty.

[C]

Hey, if you can get it on the Libby app. Hoopla.

[A]

The several month waiting.

[C]

I freaking hate the new Libby.

[A]

Libby.

[C]

Libby is on the naughty list. Naughty is on the naughty list. I don't know why the heck they changed, but it's so stupid. Yeah, I don't like it because here's the thing. I rarely use Libby anymore because I forget about it. I forget that I need to go back in and be and re. Like re. Put it on my list. I don't know.

[A]

It's stupid.

[C]

It ain't broke. Don't fix it.

[B]

Yeah. This one says when there's only one bed and then he decides to sleep on the floor.

[A]

Come on. She's not wrong about that.

[C]

The opposite of naughty.

[B]

But you know the author's writing that going.

[C]

Hehe.

[A]

Oh for sure.

[B]

Giggling.

[A]

This one is saying Divine rivals being under hyped in my opinion.

[B]

So they think that it was underhyped. Yeah, like I feel like it's a pretty hyped book. I mean maybe not right now.

[C]

Yeah, not anymore.

[B]

Not anymore.

[C]

But around the time it came out, I feel like it was the.

[A]

A prime book talk book. I also feel like some people really didn't like it because it is like. It's a different pace.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

It's a different. And I feel like she writes differently. Which I feel like in my opinion was so refreshing reading it because it was like a different PR press. Well, it was a different pace, but still like I was engaged in like what's gonna happen? Because her writing just kind of like sucked me in. But I feel like isn't it getting adapted?

[C]

I think it's been picked up. All I'm gonna say is that the ending of that book. There's very few times where I've chucked a book across the room, but that one. Oh yeah, I did chuck my book across the room.

[A]

I think she's talked about who she wants to.

[B]

Like I remember being kind of disappointed.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know if. I don't know if they've done, like, casting for it yet, but what is it called?

[B]

It would be a good movie.

[C]

Paramount Pictures and the writer of to all the Boys I've loved before writing the script. So it's gonna be pretty cheesy how.

[A]

I feel about that because I didn't really like those movies. Well.

[B]

And also it's like a fantasy.

[C]

I feel like it's going to be geared towards young adult for sure. It's going to be that, like, cheesy young adult. No, I don't want to say. Before it was called Freeform. What was it called?

[B]

Oh, ABC Family.

[C]

ABC Family. You know, secret Life of American Teenager type vibe.

[A]

It better not like Riverdale.

[C]

That's kind of the vibe I'm feeling.

[B]

Don't let it be like the cw.

[C]

No.

[A]

Because if you think about it, the people who read the book when it first came out have grown up. They've.

[C]

Yeah. Do the execs care?

[A]

They better because they want.

[B]

I mean, they know people will still watch it. I don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I'll rate it badly.

[B]

Shall we move over to the nice list?

[C]

The Noiseless. Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

The first one I'm seeing is the project Hill Mary movie.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That is on the nice list. It looks.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

But incredible trailers on the naughty list because it gives away the whole movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know how they. I don't know how they sell the movie without including that, though. Unfortunately.

[C]

You don't include Jazz Hands. You do not include that. Why would you include that?

[A]

Well, I feel like you could sell it with the whole storyline of the astrophage.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And him, like, having to go.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

I'm. I'm annoyed that they. That they spoiled Jazz Hands because I remember reading the book and it being like.

[B]

I just think that that brings in a lot more people to see the movie.

[C]

Unfortunately.

[B]

Unfortunately.

[C]

I just told my husband he wasn't allowed to watch the trailer. But the adaptation, I have such high expectations.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ryan Gosling was the perfect casting. Yeah.

[A]

I love him.

[B]

He's so cute. He's so nerdy.

[C]

I love him.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna knock it out of the park.

[C]

I have some on the nice list.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

Oh, sorry. I just automatically jumped to responses.

[C]

I'm gonna say everand is on the nice list because it's the same price as audible and you get three credits a month.

[B]

You just don't get to keep them.

[C]

You don't get to keep them when you no longer are paying for the subscription. But in my case, most of the audiobooks I listen to I'm not going to listen to again. So works out for me it's actually from the same people. Everand and Fable are owned by the same corporation. I'm pretty sure. Correct me if I'm wrong. And then another one of my nice list. Every author should do this. While Reggie was talking about how you read a book and then you forget when the book comes out a year later, I would love if every author would do this. James Islington is on the nice list because he wrote a 20 page blog post recapping the will of the many to prepare you to read the Strength of the few.

[B]

Love that Carissa Broadbent does that too.

[C]

I just wish everybody would do that.

[A]

Yeah. Nice list for sure.

[C]

Like he is getting the nicest Christmas gift from Santa Claus.

[B]

Yeah, Claus. Well, because also like sometimes, I mean, yeah, most authors don't have that. And then it's me having to go to YouTube and hope that someone does a good job sharing it. But sometimes it's like a three hour.

[A]

Video and I'm like.

[C]

And when it comes to. When it comes from the author, they know what you. They know for sure what you need to know for the next book.

[A]

Oh, there's too many good ones.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The sunrise and the Reaping cast.

[C]

Yeah, literally.

[B]

Did you guys see the interview they did with the casting directors?

[C]

No.

[B]

They did. I don't know if it was Lionsgate that did it, but someone did an interview with the casting directors and they were like having them react to comments of people like praising their casting.

[C]

Cute.

[B]

It was really, really cute.

[C]

You need to find that and post it on our story when this comes out.

[B]

It was just really cute because I think they knew they ate with the casting but like it was really sweet seeing their comments and then reacting to it. So the budget for that movie had to have been so insane. You guys. Like there is not one casting thing where I'm kind of like, eh, like I. I think everyone is going to do so well. And the trailer, the fact that this isn't my nice list. The fact that we already have a teaser trailer for it and it comes out in November.

[C]

Mm. Why did I think it came out in like the spring?

[B]

No, it comes out in November, the same day that Wicked came out. It's literally like a year.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

We from that. So all those memes that are like me on like November 20, 2025 and it's like they're in their wicked gear and then it's like, me, guys, can we dress up? Sure. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Not dress up, kinda. Anyway, sorry, I can't wait.

[B]

You guys are gonna be so sick of me. No, so sick of me. When, like, the full trailer comes out. When the movie comes out, I'm gonna try to, like, chill, but I actually can't.

[C]

We should reread the Hunger Games next year.

[B]

Oh, I. I have it on my list. I can't wait. And then I'm gonna watch all the movies I have.

[A]

I.

[B]

My husband's been meaning to read Sunrise on the reaping. It's literally sitting on his nightstand because the amount of Hunger Games. Also, you want to know who else is on the NICE list? Every single person that's listening that follows us. That sends me personal DMs of sunrise or Hunger Games TikTok edits. Like, that literally makes my day. And sometimes I've already seen them because, like, that's like my entire for you page. But literally nothing makes me more happy than when I open up a DM request and it's like, I thought you would like this. And it's a Hunger Games edit. Literally, my favorite thing ever. You may. They make me cry most of the time, but I think it's a very sweet gesture from you guys, so thank you. You're on a nice list. Okay, enough about Hunger Games. This one says duet audiobook narration.

[C]

Yeah, love that.

[B]

Yeah, Especially when both of the voice actors are, like, good to listen to because there's one. Which one? I swear, there's one I listened to recently where I was kind of like, okay, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not vibing with this certain narrator, but it just makes it so much more fun. Sometimes the male, like, narrator's voice for the female main character is like, gives you the ick. Or her voice for him is like, just. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it kind of takes that fear away when you're, like, listening to the audiobook. So that's on my nice list as well.

[C]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[A]

Yeah, I think it sometimes can make a break your rating too, about, like, if the audio book narrators aren't fantastic, I feel like it can really affect your. Your reading experience for sure. Oh, this one. I am so excited for the second book, Shield of Sparrows. It was on the NICE list. Multiple times I've seen multiple people say Shield of Sparrows.

[B]

And the next book is coming out this next year.

[A]

So soon. Let's Hope it's good.

[C]

Yeah. Every time I think of that book, I don't know why, I just immediately think Tarzan. It's like, shill the sparrows, Tarzan. Same thing.

[A]

It's not really, but, you know, the tree houses. Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

And it's already been picked up for a movie. I can't remember who's doing it, but I feel like it's gonna make such a cool movie if done well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think a lot of people really vibed with Shield of Sparrows because of the monster element. Because there's definitely things in it that are like, okay, like, we've kind of seen this before. I feel like just the overall setting and vibes and then the monster aspect just made it really stand on its own and, like, helped me separate it from a lot of other fantasy books I've read. So I think that's probably one of my favorite fantasy books that I've read this year because of those reasons.

[A]

Yeah. No, I agree.

[C]

I also think our. The main male character was the perfect amount of broody and hard, yet soft and nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, this person says, the graphic audio versions of books. And I do love the graphic audios. Don't get me wrong, they are so much fun. The one thing I do wish, and I understand why they can't do this, but I wish there was a way where they could mark chapters.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I would love nothing more than to duel, listen to a graphic audio and read.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not like at the same time, but be able to listen in my car, and then when I'm home, read it. But they just don't do that. And I know it's because they cut out some of the stuff from the books. I do love graphic audios, especially if it's like a reread. Yeah, that's perfect.

[B]

The Throne of Glass graphic audio come out?

[A]

No, it got delayed.

[B]

Oh, it did?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was gonna say I haven't heard any updates on that, and I thought it was supposed to come out this year.

[A]

It was. I looked it up, actually.

[B]

I'm really intrigued to, like, delayed. Really?

[A]

A little bit. So I don't think it's going to.

[B]

Come out this year.

[C]

That's all right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What sucks, though, is when are they going to release the next ones?

[B]

Because it's gonna take a long one, so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Honestly, I would love to be the people that do the sound effects. Yeah, that would be fun.

[A]

What are those called?

[C]

Like, have you seen those?

[A]

That Girl Talk that does like this.

[C]

It's a Weird word.

[B]

I can't remember a sound engineer.

[C]

No.

[B]

Fully.

[C]

Foley.

[B]

Foley, yeah.

[C]

Yes, fully. It's literally fully. Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That would be kind of fun.

[B]

That would be fun.

[A]

Duologies are on the nice list.

[C]

Always on the nice list.

[A]

Always, always.

[B]

The casting or not casting announcement. I wish there was a casting announcement. Chestnut Springs getting adapted. I'm actually so excited about it because here's the thing. They could make it really cringey and cheesy and I would still eat it up, you know, I would hope they don't.

[C]

Here's my thing though. I don't think it will because think about. There's these like western romances my mother in law watches. Like is it Heart of Dixie or Heart. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, that's hallmark cheesy. I just don't see Chestnut Springs being like that. Not that I'm actively watching like heated rivalry or something, but I think that's kind of. It's going to be not edgy but not cheesy.

[B]

Yeah. Because it would be really cheesy if you're including all the spice.

[C]

Because I just think there's no so much.

[B]

Sorry. Not saying that the spice would be cheesy but like if you do it in a hallmarky way and then. Then you'd have that much spice, it would make it cheesy. I just down for all the cowboys spice.

[C]

I think that there's just so many things that they can do with a western romance. Like the. Especially in Chestnut Springs. Like the dynamic between all the families and just there's a lot I feel like that they can do with it. I don't know if it's going to be completely book accurate, which I'm okay with.

[A]

Yeah, I hope it's similar to Yellowstone.

[C]

Yeah, but like romance, like the seriousness.

[A]

Of that but then like a. The romance element. You know what I'm saying? Like very accurate.

[C]

Just think about the bull riding in the fashion.

[A]

So cool. Oh my gosh. Like I think about.

[C]

Or the hockey.

[A]

The last. What is that western movie?

[C]

Last Ride.

[B]

No, the long, the longest ride.

[A]

Like in that cascot you swed.

[C]

Please.

[A]

Oh my gosh. Like that movie I was watching when I watched it for the first time. Just like.

[C]

I hope it's similar to that too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know that gives you that feeling where you're just like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like this is good. I'm like, wow, this is good.

[C]

I think it's going to be so good. I'm excited.

[A]

I wonder when that will come out 2027.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Honestly, I think. Nice list. Just any book adaptation, movie announcements. I know not all of them always go through, but it's just, like, kind of fun. And I know some people don't love when books are getting adapted because it kind of ruined the book for you. I can see that. But I just think it's fun. It just makes reading a little more fun than it already is.

[C]

Well, I think it's. It's fun to see what you pictured in your mind to be portrayed on a screen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like the housemaid. I'm actually so excited to see it. I don't know if it's just the marketing. Maybe they're lying, but I feel like a lot of people are really liking it from, like, audience reaction videos I've seen. And maybe they're just doing a really good job marketing it. Maybe it's gonna suck. And I'm not having, like, super high expectations, but, like, it's just exciting to see, like, books that you really enjoyed on the screen when done well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's what I might. My hope.

[A]

All right. Well, I just feel like Amanda Seifred.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is so good. Like, I've seen just one clip for, like, raging about her PTA notes.

[C]

I was like, oh, this is gonna be so good. I feel like Brandon. What is it? Brandon Skelnar and Sydney Sweeney can be very hit or miss.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But Amanda's gonna carry that movie based on the plot. She's gonna carry it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we. I like.

[C]

No.

[A]

I'm gonna go into it hating her.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, and, you know, when you hate a character, they're doing it really good. Like, they're. They're acting so good.

[B]

Yeah. I'm excited.

[C]

Me, too.

[A]

I feel like there's so many things on the nice list. It's. Sadly, it's just more fun to talk about things on the naughty list.

[C]

Truly.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

I'm gonna put you guys on our nice.

[C]

That was on my nice list, too. Should we end with that?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. I think we're just.

[A]

I mean, I'm speaking for them, but I think we're just so truly grateful for you guys listening to us, participating for episodes, especially, like, this one, responding to, like, our question box about naughty and nice list. You truly make the episode so great. And so thank you so much, you guys, for being listeners and participating and.

[B]

Making things great, like buying our merch, like, joining our Patreon. Like, we truly, like. It's crazy. When we first started this podcast, I wouldn't have Thought that we'd be doing this, like, three years later. Like, we're approaching three years, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so because of, like, your participation and you guys, like, just, like, supporting us in whatever space that may be, like, that's what's been able for us to continue the podcast, and that, like, means the world. So we hate to get, like, sappy, but, like, genuinely from the bottom of our hearts, it means, like, like, there's constant, like, text messages between us, like, sending screenshots of, like, messages we get from you guys or just certain things like that, that. Because, like, it can be. I'm not going to lie. Like, it can get really exhausting. It's fun. It's all fun. But, like, it can get really exhausting pushing episodes out and planning our next merch drop. And there's, like, so much going on behind the. That sometimes it can just feel like, like, this is a lot of work, but it's always like, you guys make it so worth it for us, and it's still, like, the most fun thing we could be doing, honestly.

[C]

So, yeah, just this morning someone said something. I can't remember where it was, but something about how they don't have friends who read in real life and they feel like we're their friends, which. We are your guys friends. If you listen to this podcast, we are your friends. And so it's just so special that you guys take time out of your day. You spend your hard earned money on the merch, the patreon, just whatever it may be, and just know that nothing ever goes unnoticed from us. And we truly appreciate everything you guys do and how you support us in whatever capacity that may be. And also in the same realm, we've had some really cool opportunities between the authors we've been able to interview. The fact that we got to go to TikTok headquarters this year, just how much we've been able to do. And that would not be possible without you guys. So just know that we love you guys so much and we are so incredibly thankful. You guys deserve the nicest gifts under your. Under your tree from Santa Claus. Whatever else, you know, you get for being on the nice list, just, we really do appreciate you guys.

[B]

Anyways, thanks so much for tuning in. We're gonna start updating our Instagram stories weekly with just things to look forward to as far as, like, episodes are concerned. So you can maybe, like, read a book that we're going to be discussing or, like, we'll let you guys know if there's any, like, submissions that we need from you for your participation. Updates with what's going on in our Patreon and any like events. We're going to all the things so you guys can be in the know as always. You can follow us at what she's reading pod. You can shop our merch at I'll read what she's reading.com yeah. Links to all the things in our bios everywhere and we hope you guys have a great Christmas. Thanks so much for listening. Supporting. We love you guys a lot. Till next week.

[A]

Bye.