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Mikayla
Hi guys and welcome back to all. Read what she's reading. I'm Mikayla.
Reggie
I'm Reggie.
Kennedy
And I'm Kennedy.
Mikayla
And today we're going to be doing Naughty or Nice list to get into the Christmas spirit. Sorry, should I have said ho ho ho. Welcome back to.
Kennedy
Alright.
Mikayla
Anyways, we thought it would just be a fun little twist on Christmas, you know, Santa Claus, Naughty or Nice list. But before we get into that, we're going to be updating you guys on some books we've been reading. So let's start with you, Kennedy.
Kennedy
Okay. Right now I am slowly but surely listening to Zodiac Academy, which I know Michaela is also doing this as well. And part of the reason why I decided to listen and not read because. Because they are in Kindle Unlimited is the fact that I had access to the first two graphic audios on Libby. And I think Michaela feels the same way as me. I think listening to the graphic audios is making the books a little bit more cringy than they are. There was a very specific scene with a wolf pack.
Mikayla
It haunts me in my nightmares.
Kennedy
If you guys have read the books, it was in book two, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Mikayla
It was graphic.
Kennedy
I'll just say that. But they're fun. They're. They're kind of like a trashier version of Harry Potter.
Mikayla
Yeah. I will say I think just listening to the normal ones are, is a lot better experience for me.
Kennedy
Because you just finished book three, right?
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Okay. I'm excited. I'm only like 20% of the way through book three, but they're fun.
Reggie
Isn't book three the one everyone says is like makes them cry.
Kennedy
Is it four that makes.
Mikayla
I don't think. I mean I will say finishing book three like. And I'm not saying it as like my. I don't cry at books. I just have genuinely no idea why anyone would. So I feel like it's maybe four.
Kennedy
Okay.
Mikayla
I don't know. Unless I'm just like completely heartless. But I genuinely don't know why anyone would. Okay, at the end of this one.
Kennedy
It'S got to be four then.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Kennedy
So I guess we'll see. And I've just been slowly but surely making my way through Lightbringer by Pierce Brown. And part of the reason I'm going slow is cuz I don't want it to end. But also part of it is because I haven't had time really time to sit down and read. But it's good. It's exactly what I was expecting. So I'm excited to finish it and see what everybody's been talking about.
Mikayla
So the good thing is you have. I mean, he doesn't have a release date on the last one, but at least you know you have one more book.
Kennedy
I do have one more.
Mikayla
So it's not completely done.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
All right. Reggie, what are you reading now?
Reggie
I don't think I'm reading anything right now. I think after. Yeah. So I don't really know what I'm gonna read next, but I recently, I think the last time we updated this, I had read the first Spark of the Everflame. I finished all three of. Now I have just. I can't say anything. I did read Variation by Rebecca Yarros and it was very good. Not my favorite of hers, but Rebecca writes. I mean, every. Most women can write men very well because, I mean, we know what we want and we know what we like. There's just something about the way that Rebecca writes men that it's like they. They're. They're perfect. They're. But they have. I don't know how to explain. She's just phenomenal at writing men. And I just. This. This guy in this book, it's. It's going up my list in my contemporary romance book, boyfriends go give it a listen or read. It's on Kindle Unlimited and you can listen and like do all. Do it on Kindle Unlimited. It's like about a Coast Guard swimmer and a ballerina. It was. It's great. So not my favorite of hers, like I said. But it was still really good. I finished Caraval series. I'm gonna read Spectacular. Have you guys read Spectacular yet?
Mikayla
No, I was waiting for.
Reggie
I'm going to read it.
Mikayla
I was waiting till after Thanksgiving.
Kennedy
Yeah, I want to. I want to be in the Christmasy mood.
Mikayla
Yeah. Yeah. Which would be about. Now this episode comes out, I probably would have read it.
Kennedy
Same.
Reggie
Yeah, so I. I was a little let down by the trilogy, I'm not going to lie. But it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. And yeah. The Songbird and the Heart of Stone. Oh, yeah, that's my other one. These guys have read so much.
Kennedy
These.
Reggie
Those are literally like the only books I've read since the last time I updated my reads on here. But yeah. Yeah, Songbird and Heart of Stone. It was a five star read for me. And go listen to our episode with Chris Broadman if you haven't already. That just solidified my rating of that book. Even more after Getting to talk with her. So go read her books if you haven't. So that's me.
Mikayla
I love that. I have a question for you, Riggy.
Reggie
Yes.
Mikayla
Besides Fourth Wing, which is your favorite Rebecca Yarros book.
Reggie
I might say in the Likely Event.
Mikayla
Oh, okay.
Reggie
Yeah, I really like that one.
Kennedy
Do you have a favorite? I feel like I haven't read as many of her romance books as you guys have. I think I've only ever read in the Likely Event and the Last letter. No, not the last letter. The Things We Leave Unfinished.
Mikayla
I think that's.
Kennedy
I think I would say I like the Things we leave unfinished more than the likelihood. Yeah, I think.
Mikayla
I think I would say same.
Kennedy
But have you guys read the last letter?
Mikayla
No. No.
Reggie
Oh, I saw. Yeah, I'm saving that one for, you know.
Mikayla
I just haven't been able to find it.
Kennedy
Like Libby.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
But I. I would like to read it physically if I can't listen to it. So, um, anyway, sorry, that was a little bit of a side tangent. Um, so, like Kennedy said, I had just. I just finished the third Zodiac Academy. I'm going to continue. But, yeah, I can't say much. I can't wait to discuss what she thinks at the end of this one.
Kennedy
Um, Are you obsessed with the same character I'm obsessed with?
Mikayla
I don't know.
Reggie
Maybe you can say, I don't really care.
Kennedy
I'm just gonna say I don't want to spoil it for anyone listening.
Mikayla
I'm obsessed with a certain character.
Kennedy
Okay, we can talk about it later.
Mikayla
Okay.
Kennedy
I don't want to spoil for anybody listening to this episode. Reggie doesn't think she's gonna read these, so she says give her all the spoilers. But, yeah, for you listening, it's one.
Reggie
Of those books where I'm like, I know I would enjoy it. I just don't. There's so many more books that I'd rather read that I just don't have time for. And it almost sounds more fun for me to hear someone just, like, tell me their experience of reading it and their. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know anything about it.
Mikayla
Maybe after this we'll just sit down and tell you the first two books.
Kennedy
Maybe also we'll have. When we finish the series, maybe we'll have different feelings about it, because I know a lot of people say, book three and on get better and better and better. Book one and two were just trash reality tv, fantasy version. But maybe they get better and maybe we'll say it's Worth it for you to read.
Mikayla
Yeah. That's mostly so big.
Reggie
Aren't they like huge?
Kennedy
No, they're like some girl posted a.
Reggie
Tick tock of one of the books and it looked, I think, they giant. Maybe it's one of the. Yeah, maybe it's like the newest one.
Mikayla
That's partly the reason why I haven't spoiled it for you, like, completely yet. Just in case, like. Yeah, I appreciate it. Oh, actually, you should read this. Just, like, just push through.
Reggie
Yeah. The fifth book is 886 pages.
Mikayla
Dang.
Kennedy
Will I be reading the other series that goes along with it? No, probably not. But right now I'm along for the ride.
Mikayla
Yeah. And I'm in the middle of reading the War of Lost Hearts series. I'm on the second book right now. I'm in a little bit of a reading slump. Not gonna lie. I know. I just need to push through the middle portion. I'm like 31% of the way in. But I actually, I liked the first book a lot. The second one has been harder for me to get into, but. And then I also just started. I'm slowly knocking off my fall TBR as it's getting into December. I started Lost and Lassoed.
Reggie
Oh, Oh, I forgot about that one.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
So once I finished Domino World Series and Lost in Lasso, I completed my fall tbr.
Kennedy
Congratulations.
Mikayla
Yeah, I just need to move on to my winter after this.
Reggie
Yeah.
Mikayla
So. But I feel like I have until February. Ish. So. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Anyways, let's get into our naughty and nice episode.
Reggie
We start with nice or naughty.
Kennedy
We asked a question box. You guys pull. Pull through every time. So we're gonna share some of ours. We're gonna share some of yours.
Mikayla
Maybe let's do naughty first.
Reggie
All right. Since that's first.
Kennedy
The naughty list. Who's not getting presents this year?
Reggie
All star.
Kennedy
Okay.
Reggie
Pencole.
Kennedy
Oh.
Mikayla
Because she hasn't released the next book yet.
Reggie
She keeps psyching everybody out. She's like, spring. Oh, now July, and now you don't even know. But then she like, was like, I'll be nice. I'll sprinkle in the first few chapters of the next book on my website. But then that just made it even worse for me. So I think that's a fun. Yeah. You know, and, you know, maybe she's going through something right now. Maybe she's just like, you know what? Give me some patience. Like, be patient with me. Maybe she just needs a little breather. And I Can understand that, but at the same time, I'm sorry. Going on the naughty list for not giving us a date after psyching us out twice.
Kennedy
She's getting a lump of coal, so.
Reggie
Cole. Ben, Cole. Gonna lump a coal. I still love you though, Pen. But just this year. Yeah, I'm just. I'm not for Christmas.
Kennedy
Give Reggie the next book.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Bring it over. Hand it over.
Kennedy
You're up, Mikayla. Okay, tell us who's on your naughty list.
Mikayla
On my naughty list is. I forget the author's names of Zodiac Academy. Oh, no.
Kennedy
Is this gonna be the same thing that I wrote down?
Mikayla
I won't say it. That thing. The Prank feud.
Kennedy
Oh, my gosh.
Mikayla
Has got to stop.
Kennedy
Mm.
Mikayla
That's all I'll say.
Kennedy
The Prank Wars. Yeah, I agree. You're telling me it's not over. Okay, great, great. Okay. I'll just keep it along the same lines. They're also on my naughty list for using words like Fae book and feyrari.
Mikayla
Feyrari.
Kennedy
I.
Reggie
Please just tell me. I. I don't know. It's okay. Sorry, continue.
Kennedy
I was listening, and when I heard feyrari, I literally rewound. Put it on one time speed. Because I was like, no way did I just hear what I thought I heard.
Reggie
Oh, on two times speed.
Kennedy
I thought maybe I was like, oh, maybe they said. Maybe they said Ferrari and I just heard it wrong. Yeah, no, Anything they can put Faye in front of to make it like Facetogram. Dude, it was Fae book. It's Fae book.
Mikayla
Faye book. I think this was also written at a time where, like, Instagram wasn't really.
Reggie
Yeah, super big.
Kennedy
Maybe. Yeah.
Reggie
I just really.
Kennedy
Or maybe they just really wanted fake.
Mikayla
Yeah. Well, I feel like when she describes some of their outfits, it seems like 2010.
Kennedy
I could see it being published then.
Reggie
Yeah. So I just love that I haven't known anything about these books. And I was. Marco polling them one day, and I was like, asking about it, and Kennedy said, the only thing you need to know is that they have Fae book. And I was like. Like Facebook? Yeah. That just cracks me up.
Kennedy
So I can't.
Mikayla
The comments kill me. The hashtags? Yeah, they use hashtags on their post and it's like.
Reggie
Is this where. You don't have to put this. Is this where SJM got her inspo for Crescent City?
Kennedy
Maybe.
Mikayla
Probably.
Reggie
She's like, let's put. I don't know.
Mikayla
You know, there are some similarities to Crescent City.
Kennedy
Kind of. Yeah.
Mikayla
Actually. Yeah.
Reggie
All right.
Kennedy
Okay.
Mikayla
Going back to Reggie, going On the.
Reggie
Naughty list is my job for keeping me from reading. Grateful for my job. Wouldn't survive without it, you know, but, you know, just as grateful as I am for it, I just. It's going on the naughty list because it has caused me a lot of turmoil this year because every time I'm working, I wish I was reading instead. For the most part. Doesn't mean I dislike my job, but relatable, you know, I think of how many more books I could have read. Some of you who just, like, read for a living. Jealous.
Kennedy
Yeah. But is it your turn?
Mikayla
My turn? The back of books. I don't like them.
Kennedy
Just get rid of the back. I don't like never ending.
Reggie
Let's actually just talk about how the. Yeah, like the synopsis. Well, okay, so we haven't talked about this on the podcast, but we just had a little retreat with some of our reading friends where we just spent a weekend. If you've seen our, like, social media, we've been posting about it. We did a little book exchange, kind of like white elephant style, but not like white elephant gifts. Being on book exchange with our favorite underrated read. And we started reading the back of the book to kind of like give everyone an idea of what the book was about. And it was just hilarious because we finally were like, just summarize it.
Mikayla
They're so.
Reggie
And some. Some of the books gave away the entire plot.
Mikayla
Yes. So I will also say I to kind of go along with that. My naughty. This is an extension of it when people explain books, but they go into much detail about the book. Like, why not just give, like, an overview? It has these vibes. I think you'll like it. But they're like, okay, there's this person and this person, and this is what I'm like, no, don't give away the book.
Kennedy
You know, so give me, like, the first four chapters.
Mikayla
Yeah, yeah. With like, vibes. Anyways, sorry, that was my long tangent.
Kennedy
I love that.
Mikayla
Backs of books and too much explaining.
Kennedy
Give me the bare minimum. Yeah, give me the bare minimum. All right. My next naughty list is Spotify, because for the life of me, I can't understand why they only give us 15 hours. Just give me one book a month. One book. One single book. Because 15 hours doesn't cover enough.
Mikayla
I can't relate.
Kennedy
It's okay.
Mikayla
I don't have time.
Kennedy
It's really frustrating.
Mikayla
I could see how that can be really frustrating.
Reggie
We did just learn that Amazon Music is now offering one free audible book.
Kennedy
They are.
Mikayla
I think I have Amazon Prime.
Reggie
So I'm like, do I cancel my audible at this point?
Kennedy
Does it come with Amazon Prime?
Reggie
No, but I don't think you get to keep the book forever on Amazon.
Kennedy
You don't get to keep the book on Spotify.
Mikayla
Yeah, I mean, that would make sense if it. If it's just like.
Reggie
Cause I'm like, do I cancel my audible? But then I'm like, some of my books, I like having them, but to always have.
Mikayla
But I'll still have them. Yeah, if you cancel it.
Reggie
Yeah. But, like, if I didn't want my audible anymore and I wanted to just do, like, some books I like to have. I don't know. I'm just always spending too much money anyways, so. Yeah, but Spotify's gotta.
Kennedy
Gotta step it up.
Reggie
Reality check. Yeah.
Kennedy
Give me just one book, you know, Apple Music. Okay. I'm surprised Apple Music doesn't have something with Apple books because Kyle, for some reason, bought one of the Red Rising books on Apple books to listen to. I'm surprised they don't have a deal. I bet they'll come out with one, probably.
Reggie
Yeah. Everyone's always just, you know, fighting each other. It's like a. Yeah, they're like the streaming wars. Yeah.
Kennedy
For audiobooks.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Yeah. As much as I love you, Jessa Hastings, you're going on the naughty list for having not started Daisy Hates three.
Mikayla
Okay.
Kennedy
But you wanna know what? That girl puts her whole.
Reggie
Oh, she does.
Kennedy
But you know what?
Mikayla
Jesse. Yes, yes.
Kennedy
Just Jesse, Jess. No, she does heart and soul in those.
Reggie
I just am shook to my core because I just think about it, and I'm like, hey, I. You haven't wrote it yet. She knows where it's going, which is great. But I'm like, you're telling me we're not gonna get that book for. I mean, I appreciate when authors aren't like, don't.
Mikayla
Just like, I feel like it's 2027.
Reggie
Yeah. That's insane. And there's still gonna be two more. One more book.
Kennedy
I bet you anything she comes out with will. The book she's coming out with and then never. And then I bet she'll do the.
Mikayla
Next Daisy Hates that's Naughty List.
Reggie
That is naughty.
Kennedy
You know, it is naughty list. But I. I get it. Girls got to take a break for her mental health.
Mikayla
I don't get it. Kennedy's like, I get it. I'm like, now.
Kennedy
I just feel like I know her because of her social media, and in reality, I don't know her at all.
Mikayla
You know, But Yeah.
Reggie
I'm dying about. This is so random. Her video she posted, it was probably like a week or two ago, where she just reviewed different games that her family likes to play.
Kennedy
I didn't see it.
Reggie
She was like, oh, I love this game. And she was just talking. She's like, I've been really hyper fixated on games. And she had her coffee table just full of games, and she reviewed every single one.
Kennedy
You know, the more I learned about her, the more I like her.
Reggie
Yeah. And then I just watched the other night. I was getting ready for something. It was in the evening. I don't know. She went live on Instagram, and she was just cooking in her kitchen. She had a. Like, a winter hat on, like earmuffs.
Kennedy
I love her cold.
Reggie
And she was just in her kitchen cooking, and she just was unhinged, just talking about who knows what. I just love it. Sometimes I think I love when we can peel the curtain back and see more authors like that.
Kennedy
When we've interviewed the few offers authors we've interviewed. I feel like you kind of forget that they're just regular human beings. Like, when Carissa was talking about what she was reading.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
It's just. It's just crazy how they're just, you know, regular people just having all these amazing things in their minds.
Reggie
Yeah. Yeah. But still.
Mikayla
Give me the books.
Reggie
Yeah, still.
Mikayla
I'm just.
Kennedy
She's not. Michaela's not okay with it.
Reggie
We have no chill over here.
Mikayla
I'm okay with it. I'm okay with you having a life. But just, like.
Kennedy
Just give me a time frame.
Mikayla
Just give me a little bit.
Reggie
Yeah.
Mikayla
Even if it's like, three years in advance. I feel like that would settle me.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
Be like, okay, it's gonna come out in 2027. I'd be like, okay, that's fair. But just to not even have a timeline. Okay. It is rough.
Reggie
Sorry for the tangents on that. I just.
Kennedy
It's okay.
Mikayla
It's. It's me going on tangents.
Reggie
No, you're good.
Mikayla
On the naughty list for me is dark romance.
Kennedy
What kind of naughty list?
Mikayla
Both. I just. Yeah.
Kennedy
Cheeky. Doesn't get down with dark romance. And that's okay.
Reggie
Same.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Kennedy
I can handle, like, 15%. That's it.
Mikayla
Yeah. No, I just. I mean, I. That's just. It's just not for me. But that's why it's on both naughty lists, because some people would be like.
Kennedy
Yeah, it's on my naughty list, but.
Mikayla
It'S on my naughty list.
Reggie
Yeah. I think it's Great. That people love it. Like, that's great. I just don't understand. But you know what? I have family members that don't understand why I read fantasy.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Reggie
And I think they're crazy.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
So, you know, different strokes, different foe.
Mikayla
My favorite was Heath. Heather. Did you guys see the TikTok where she was like, I got a new taser, and it's like me messing with my taser while listening to my dark romance.
Kennedy
Oh, my gosh, stalker romance book.
Mikayla
And she, like, tase it and she's like, jumping.
Kennedy
I love it. She's so unhinged.
Mikayla
I love it. Anyways, I'm sorry. It's on both naughty and naughty. And naughty.
Kennedy
I can respect that. I can.
Mikayla
All right.
Kennedy
On my naughty list. It's kind of similar to Reggie's. Pierce Brown is on my naughty list because he does not have a release date for Red. God. Okay. Lightbringer came out. Let me look. It's been. It's been a while. It's been a while. And I've been watching a lot of interviews. I went off on a hardcore deep dive. He does not outline his books. He just writes books as he goes. Like, doesn't really have a plan. Doesn't outline. Just writes books as he goes. He. For those of you listening, Reggie and Michaela know this because I told them he has a hat, and he writes all of his characters names in a hat. And when he goes to kill someone off, he just draws from the hat, and whoever he pulls is who he kills.
Mikayla
It's kind of fun.
Reggie
I honestly kind of love it because I feel like it just makes the experience a little more. I don't know. I feel like it would be a little jarring because then author would be like, oh, my gosh, Wait, I don't know if I want to do that. But then they have to be like, I don't know. I think that's really cool, actually.
Kennedy
If you guys want an author that will.
Reggie
But it makes me nervous.
Kennedy
That is not afraid to kill people. Read his books anyways. He's on the naughty list.
Mikayla
That's fair.
Kennedy
Or is he a naughty. Naughty.
Mikayla
Don't go there on the Nazi.
Kennedy
Both.
Mikayla
Both Guys, we could never interview him.
Reggie
If we were to interview Pierce Brown, he would walk away from that interview.
Mikayla
Being like, these girls are idiots.
Reggie
These girls read in my place.
Kennedy
He's so smart. Like I said, I was watching a lot of interviews with him. The words he uses, just speaking in normal conversation. I'm like, what does that mean? Let me. Let me pull out my Dictionary property.
Mikayla
I will say I was in the same wavelength when reading some of those books because I literally guessed everything.
Kennedy
Yeah, so.
Reggie
So Michaela will just interview him by herself, though.
Mikayla
No. If anything, I'm the dumbest out of all of us.
Kennedy
No, you're not.
Reggie
No.
Kennedy
No, you're not.
Mikayla
I don't know.
Kennedy
Give me red. God.
Mikayla
Let's read some of your guys's responses to the Naughty List. And I'm very excited to. I haven't read any of them either, so we're just seeing this as we go. Also, we'll try to keep things spoiler free. Yes. So I'm sorry, if you put something and we don't read it, it's probably just because it had a little bit of a spoiler. So.
Reggie
People who spoil books. Yeah, valid. Everyone, automatic naughty list for life.
Kennedy
Okay, guys, I found one.
Reggie
All right.
Kennedy
On the Naughty list this year is guys who cosplay as bat boys.
Reggie
Oh, 110%.
Kennedy
Listen, I get it. You guys are doing your best, but for me personally, it's not it.
Mikayla
I think some men are running too much with it. Yeah, they're. It was. It was funny at first. It was kind of cool at first. Now it's just. It's just not it anymore.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Reggie
I just want to know how much they genuinely love the books or if it's like they're just doing it for the TikTok, you know, or for the ladies. I don't know if that's working on some of you.
Kennedy
That's great, but it's just not for me.
Reggie
I just feel like you. They go to these balls and I'm like, are they like, are they just like, are. I just. I don't.
Kennedy
I think. I think the ones that do the balls, like a. Want to be actors. It's kind of like an acting for them. And this is. This is why I get worried about a live action acotar. I. I fear I may get the ick.
Reggie
Yeah. Because I get from every tik tok I've seen.
Kennedy
I fear.
Reggie
I just love when I go to the comments and so many people are like, you are. You are my Rhysand. And I'm like, okay, if that tickles your fancy, then good for you. I just. Yeah.
Mikayla
Oh, this is not it. But that just kind of reminded me, men who read spicy scenes on TikTok.
Kennedy
I've been getting so many lives lately.
Mikayla
That are like, they're just. People are just requesting read this, read this. And just because they have a decent, rumbly, grumbly voice, you know, that's not.
Kennedy
To say that that that's going to be on someone's nice list this year. Yeah, just us, personally.
Reggie
Some of them are pretty good. Yes, but, like.
Kennedy
Yeah, I don't want to see your face.
Mikayla
What?
Kennedy
Read it.
Mikayla
Have you guys seen Ray John Page? He narrates.
Kennedy
No, it's not him.
Mikayla
Yes, it is. He literally did advertising for it.
Kennedy
No, it's a guy that looks. That's not him, is it?
Mikayla
Yes.
Kennedy
On Quinn.
Reggie
Yes, but it's not audiobook. It's the guy that's on Emily and Paris.
Mikayla
Oh, wait.
Kennedy
He looks really similar to him.
Reggie
He's gonna be on People We Meet on Vacation.
Mikayla
Paris. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Him.
Kennedy
Okay. The actors that do that, they must be getting paid.
Mikayla
Bank.
Kennedy
Yeah, the girl on. You did one. Yeah, yeah. They're making. Get your check.
Mikayla
Get your bag. Get your bag. Sorry, I doubt not Ray John Page.
Reggie
I know who you're talking about.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Reggie
I can't think of his name, but he's beautiful.
Mikayla
He is beautiful. There was like a little snippet and I was like.
Kennedy
His name is Lucian Lavis.
Reggie
Lucian.
Kennedy
Lucian.
Mikayla
I like.
Reggie
Yeah, I like him.
Mikayla
Okay. I'll actually do one. This person says she spoils books for herself. That is like jail. Naughty list. I mean, I hate that, but if you enjoy that, then I guess that's for you. But you.
Reggie
I just want to understand, like, what's the fun?
Mikayla
Yeah, that's not fun.
Kennedy
Here's one that I think is on the nice list, but this person said this is on the naughty list. Authors killing beloved characters. Oh, let me tell you.
Reggie
Nice list.
Kennedy
For me, for some reason, it's on the nice list because I like to be emotionally wrecked.
Mikayla
Yeah, but I don't think that's nice.
Reggie
Well, I think it depends on the circumstance because, like, sometimes authors don't. Ever. I shouldn't say ever. Sometimes I think books would be better if there was a little bit more death. Death.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Kennedy
The reason I say it's on the nice list is because I feel like it's such a. I can't find the word. It's. It's amazing to me that an author can take these words of people that are not real and make me have such an emotional connection to them that when they die, I feel like I lost a loved one. Yes.
Mikayla
Well, I feel like that's still, like, on the naughty list, but, like, not like. You know what I mean?
Kennedy
I get like me. Yeah. I get like, me.
Mikayla
Naughty, naughty. Like, I can't believe you did. Yes. Yes, that's what I mean.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
I don't see that as like, thank you so much for killing off this person. I love that. That's such a nice thing.
Kennedy
You.
Mikayla
Thank you.
Kennedy
Write a thank you note.
Mikayla
You know what I mean? Like naughty.
Reggie
A lot of people are saying that.
Mikayla
Skyshide.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Can we talk about this for two seconds?
Reggie
Yeah. Okay.
Kennedy
What's. What did someone say on the naughty list? Alex Aster's on the naughty list for Sky Shade.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Honestly, she's kind of on my naughty list because her. And I was reading Nightbane probably 15 of the way in. She went on Good Morning America, announced that there was two more books in the series. Completely lost my interest. I. I couldn't finish Nightbane because I thought it was only three books.
Mikayla
I think she did herself a disservice by doing that. I think I've seen so many people on TikTok that said, like, I'm just giving up on the series.
Kennedy
Yeah, that's how I feel.
Mikayla
And I think she should have just left it out of trilogy. I don't know what she was thinking. I mean, not in the nicest way possible.
Kennedy
And maybe once the other two books come out, because I do believe she said they're coming out next year, I will regain the motivation to continue on. But I've just seen a lot of people say that the way the third book ends is. Was not satisfying X, Y and Z, blah, blah, blah. And I would. I mean, I would love to know the reasoning behind her writing two more books in the series. It's crazy because I really. I really enjoyed her banter and the way she writes characters. Banter. I don't know. I. I don't know.
Mikayla
I feel like I just didn't like the first book enough to read four more books about it, you know?
Kennedy
Well, in one.
Mikayla
And if it was just the third, I. Yeah, I would do it. I would read all of the books and say, I read the trilogy. But to.
Kennedy
I'm pretty sure she's came out and said one of them is a prequel. So.
Reggie
So dumb.
Mikayla
Yeah, sorry.
Reggie
No, you're good. Someone said one bed, but he takes up the floor. He takes the floor instead of naughty.
Kennedy
So naughty.
Mikayla
Naughty time is like, are they breathing? Are they awake?
Kennedy
Maybe if I roll over and look at them.
Mikayla
Yeah, that's.
Reggie
That one made me giggle.
Mikayla
That one's a good one.
Reggie
A lot of people actually said us. Wait. Really, really nice. Yeah, no, that's very nice. So I just feel like because there were so many, I. We just gotta Say thank you. That's very, very nice. I will say one of my nice lists is just. Is like, this sounds so sappy, but like, I'm being so genuine when I say anyone who listens to our podcast follows us on our socials because we have had so many cool opportunities this year that we wouldn't have had had it not been for you guys. And that's just really, really special to us. I'm speaking on behalf of you guys, but I just think that that's really cool because I never would have thought that, you know, I get to talk to my favorite authors or host an event or, like, there's just so many things and it's just been really cool to see. So you guys are on the nice list.
Kennedy
So if you're listening to this, I hope your favorite book in a special edition is brought to you by Santa. You deserve the best Christmas gift.
Reggie
Great. Great gift.
Kennedy
Mm. Santa, please.
Mikayla
Is that why you guys are asking for Christmas?
Reggie
No, I did ask for a special.
Kennedy
Edition of a book.
Mikayla
Yeah, I love it.
Reggie
I thought about it too late.
Kennedy
Because here's the thing. I would never spend the money on a special edition of book for myself. So.
Mikayla
Yeah, that's fair.
Reggie
All right.
Kennedy
Okay.
Reggie
I guess we're got to say R. Yeah, ours. I jumped the gun. So. Yeah, someone start with your nice list. What's on your nice list?
Kennedy
Emily Henry is on my nice list. Because I don't know if she had any say in this, but her casting of people we meet on vacation, she's on that list.
Reggie
I put that on my mind too.
Kennedy
She's on the nice list. She's gonna be on the nice list as every single one of her movies comes out. Cause they are gonna be bangers. Bangers.
Reggie
I cannot wait. Do we do a live event round two?
Kennedy
Yeah. Hundred percent.
Reggie
You guys mark your calendars. I don't know when it's coming out. Is it coming out in summer?
Kennedy
It better. I hope so.
Reggie
That seems kind of quick. What?
Mikayla
Sorry, I won't add this. What if we did like. I mean, this is really far fetched. But if we did like a. Like a pool one where like, we watch like in.
Reggie
We watch it on, like a projector.
Mikayla
Yes. But that's like, there's no way for us to get the movie until it comes.
Kennedy
Everybody has to come in beach attire.
Mikayla
Yes.
Reggie
Or like a drive swimsuit to the movie theater. Yeah, that would be really cool. I just don't know how we had to have already seen it at that point.
Mikayla
But I'm sorry. That we could. That was. That's just where my mind went with.
Kennedy
Like a. Yeah, that movie's gonna be. I have high expectations.
Reggie
Oh, I cannot wait.
Mikayla
So excited.
Reggie
2026, I think, because when it's coming out. Right. I don't know. I'm counting down count.
Mikayla
Do you think 2026 or.
Reggie
I mean, 2025. What year is it right now? 2024.
Mikayla
Yeah, I'm probably 2026. Because if they're not even done filming.
Reggie
Yeah, but think about how quick.
Mikayla
How quick is movie turnarounds usually? I have no idea.
Reggie
I don't know. I mean, it ends with us. I feel like it was really quick considering there was, like, the writers strike in the middle of it.
Mikayla
Well, they started in 2020.
Kennedy
Is it Netflix?
Reggie
Yeah, but, like, filming it.
Kennedy
It's Netflix.
Reggie
Oh, I don't know. I don't know. But, you know, whenever that Netflix appears. Are you upset about that?
Kennedy
No. I mean, how are we gonna do a premiere if it's on Netflix?
Reggie
We do the pool.
Mikayla
Yeah, that's.
Kennedy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Mikayla
Sorry, that was a bit excessive.
Reggie
And I thought it was gonna be in, like, movie theaters, but you know what? Pool party it is.
Kennedy
Oh, it's gonna be so good.
Reggie
All right, I'm working on my bikini bot. Let's do it. Okay. Mikayla.
Mikayla
Oh, mine's just lame. Sarah J. Moss, for just providing this most epic universe. That's it.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Yeah. We love her.
Mikayla
It's crazy because I feel like. I feel like. I don't know how she does it, but it consumes almost everyone's thoughts.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
I don't think. I don't think about it at least a little bit every single day.
Reggie
Yeah.
Mikayla
Mostly because on Tick Tock, I at least see one Tick Tock about SJM a day. So anyways, that's it. That's all.
Kennedy
Yep.
Mikayla
But she's also kind of on the naughty list, too, so just a little bit of both. She's in the middle.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Reggie
I'm going to just say audiobooks. Is it my preferred way to read books? No. But I probably would not have survived this year without them. And so for that, I am grateful. So anyone who is in the audiobook world, whether you produce, you narrate, you whatever, thank you. Because it has saved me this year, quite literally.
Mikayla
So I don't understand the argument of it not counting as a book.
Kennedy
I don't really either. I mean, you're still consuming the same content, but, I mean, I think maybe because people say you're doing other things while you're well, it's not like you're.
Reggie
Physically reading it, but you're consuming it. So like it's almost like instead of like books read this year, it should be like books consumed.
Mikayla
That's true.
Reggie
You know.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Cuz you're still getting the same information. Information. I don't know. I just want to know people's argument for why it doesn't count. Like, I understand that you didn't like read open up the book and read it with your eyes. Besides that, I just don't understand why I wouldn't count.
Mikayla
I don't know.
Kennedy
Because I count them. Every single last one of them. Okay. Kind of along the same lines. Libby always and forever will be on my nice list because the amount of books I would have never listened to or read if I didn't have the Libby app is. It's, it's a lot of books. And also it just saves so much money. Saves so much money. And love Libby. Love the library. You're amazing.
Mikayla
Libraries are making a comeback.
Kennedy
They are my local library slaps.
Reggie
I'm going to just say on the nice list are people who update their Goodreads a lot, especially while they're reading the book. As long as you're giving no spoilers. I love it. Sometimes I think I go overboards depending on the book with like my updates and I'm like, am I annoying people? But I personally love seeing it on my end, especially if it's a book I've read. I just, even if I have no clue what they're talking about and it's just some sort of out of context something or other, it's fun. It's like my Twitter, like I scroll on my Goodreads and I. It's. I'm really disappointed when I go to scroll and there's not like a new review for me to read or like update. It's just fun.
Kennedy
So the more unhinged the better.
Reggie
Yeah. And also people who I need to be better at this but like contribute to our fable stuff. I know I could be better at that. I'm not really good at it, but I love going on and seeing especially after I read the book, if I like forgot to go read some, check a chapter, seeing people's theories and stuff, it's fun. So I just like to be updated. Talking about books is fun. That's why we have this podcast. But yeah, it's just fun to see it on other forums and, and things.
Mikayla
So yeah, it's fun to see your guys updates on books. It's a lot More fun when I've like read them or I'm like reading, I'm like, oh, they're at this certain part.
Reggie
But I agree.
Mikayla
Yeah, my nice list is just this weather for reading.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Mikayla
We live in Utah, so it's gotten cold, it's a little snowy and it's just perfect for, you know, cozying up on a blanket, getting some of your reading snacks and just reading. But I will say it does get dark so early.
Kennedy
But then it's an excuse to stop working once it gets dark at 4 o'clock to start reading.
Mikayla
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Reggie
Yeah, I like that one.
Kennedy
Okay, my last nice list goes out to Elsie Silver for Theo and Jasper. Thank you.
Mikayla
I like Theo.
Kennedy
I like them both.
Reggie
All right.
Mikayla
Reggie has no idea.
Reggie
Maybe that's what I'll start listening to next. Yeah, they're wildly fun to listen to a romance book. I mean, I guess variation but like I feel like it's kind of different. So yeah, that was all mine because Kennedy took my Emily Henry 1. So according to you guys, lots of you are just singing praises for Abby Jimenez and Rebecca Yaros. Love it. So someone said my work for giving me 2021 January off to binge Onyx Storm.
Kennedy
Oh, you're on the nice list.
Reggie
The top tier nice list.
Kennedy
Who was your boss? They must be a book person.
Mikayla
Can I come to your work?
Kennedy
I mean, ask your boss if you can get the day off. I'm pretty sure she'll say yes.
Mikayla
I don't know, my boss kind of sucks. I'm my own boss, but she doesn't give me any benefit.
Reggie
So I also liked this one. Someone said when the title of the book is mentioned in the book itself.
Kennedy
Yes.
Reggie
Why is that so satisfying?
Kennedy
Yes.
Reggie
Yeah, it's like a. It feels like. Like an inside.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Like a little secret.
Mikayla
When it was like and I am powerless.
Kennedy
And you scream, you're like.
Reggie
Yeah. Yeah.
Mikayla
Someone said Mikayla's face in all the dancing videos. Best girl.
Reggie
Yes. She's on the next Best girl merch coming soon. Stay tuned.
Mikayla
Burn it, burn it, burn it.
Kennedy
Let's see. Someone said I can't find it, but it basically said when my friend tells me that they're starting one of my favorite series of all time. Yeah.
Mikayla
That is the best.
Kennedy
Anytime, Anytime anyone reads a book that I recommend to them. Nice list.
Reggie
Someone. We don't include this. Someone said sharing a Kindle Unlimited account with your best friends, that's kind of genius. Honestly.
Kennedy
I mean, honestly, it's pretty genius because.
Mikayla
I'm like, what if you're reading books at the same time, you can.
Reggie
You can have up to, like, six books or something in your.
Kennedy
It will ask you, too, when you open up your phone or your Kindle, if you want to start from the preview, like, when you open it. So, like, if my phone and my Kindle are on different ones, it'll ask me if I want to jump ahead so you can say no. You know what I mean?
Mikayla
Yeah. Let's just go through some of the people are just, like, thinking, like, not thinking. Let's just go through some of the authors that are on the NICE list. Abby Jimenez, Elsie Silver, Emily Henry, Sarah Adams, sjm, Rebecca Yaros. I. Yeah. So good. Lauren Roberts, Liz.
Kennedy
Tom Ford.
Mikayla
Yeah. You know, they're. They're all on the NICE list.
Kennedy
I saw Rachel Gillig.
Reggie
The Shadow Daddies.
Kennedy
Yes.
Reggie
Not an author.
Kennedy
Someone said, I'm not going to say this. I'm just going to say a person's name. Not going to say what book or anything, because if you know, you're going to know. Someone said, Rocky.
Mikayla
I almost forgot.
Kennedy
The original Magnolia Discovers.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Reggie
Short chapters.
Kennedy
Yep.
Mikayla
Yes.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Okay. But let me go back to the original Magnolia Parks covers for those of you who do not follow. Jessa Hastings, or. No, it's her best friend. Right. That paints all of her covers.
Reggie
Yeah.
Kennedy
Insane. Absolutely insane. The talent, incredible.
Mikayla
Also, if you're wanting those original covers, you can buy them on Blackwell. And they're not very expensive. I mean, they're a little bit more than the US Covers, but I think worth it if you like the original covers.
Kennedy
I just love the Easter eggs that they have.
Mikayla
Yeah.
Kennedy
I get the shoe covers. Yes. They're so symbolic. And after you read the book, it's fun to go back to the covers and see what you catch on.
Reggie
Someone just said, I did not know this. I just had to Google it. Someone said the NICE list goes to waterproof Kindles so that they can read in peace in the bathroom.
Kennedy
Yeah. Kindles are up to certain percent waterproof, like your phone.
Reggie
I mean, I still would never want to put my Kindle in the bath.
Mikayla
But if I read in the shower, you could. Honestly, that would be nice.
Kennedy
You just like, slap it in there.
Mikayla
One hand.
Kennedy
Get your Kindle remote, Get a little. What are those things called the influencers use on the back of your phone? Get an October, put it on your Kindle, shove it into your shower, get your Kindle.
Reggie
I've never really, like, thought about that. Washing your hair, like.
Kennedy
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Mikayla
Oh, my gosh.
Reggie
I listen to audiobooks in the shower sometimes. And my husband's always really confused when he like especially here talking when I'm like time speed.
Mikayla
If you're not locked in and you walk in on someone and listening to a book at two times speed, it's like. And she went.
Reggie
My husband list. Listen to me listen to a book on two times speed. And he like, that's his. He'll be like, I'm speaking. He'll. He says he's like speaking my language because he'll just randomly start. And I'm like, what? And he's like, just like talking like your books. He thinks it's ridiculous. But I'm like one time speed. Naughty list.
Kennedy
Yeah, naughty. Naughty.
Mikayla
All right. I think we. This was really fun. I loved our naughty and nice list. Definitely will probably do something similar next year around Christmas time or something. And we hope you guys have such a great day and week and we'll see you guys next Wednesday. And Christmas, happy holidays. Hopefully. It's so great and you guys get to read lots of books. We'll see you guys next Wednesday.
Reggie
Bye.
Podcast Summary: "I'll Read What She's Reading" – Episode: Naughty OR Nice
Release Date: December 11, 2024
In the festive episode titled "Naughty OR Nice," hosts Mikayla, Reggie, and Kennedy infuse the Christmas spirit into their usual book-centric discussions. They explore their personal "Naughty and Nice" lists, delving into favorite authors, current readings, and playful critiques of the literary world, all while engaging with their listeners' submissions.
Kennedy shares her ongoing journey through Pierce Brown's Lightbringer series, expressing both excitement and apprehension about its conclusion. She remarks:
"It's exactly what I was expecting. So I'm excited to finish it and see what everybody's been talking about." (02:21)
She's also immersing herself in the Zodiac Academy series, choosing to listen to the graphic audios available on Kindle Unlimited instead of reading them:
"Listening to the graphic audios is making the books a little bit more cringy than they are. […] They're kind of like a trashier version of Harry Potter." (00:43)
Reggie discusses her recent reads, highlighting Rebecca Yarros' Variation:
"Rebecca writes... every. Most women can write men very well because, I mean, we know what we want and we know what we like." (03:02)
She also praises Songbird and the Heart of Stone series, rating it five stars and recommending their podcast episode with Chris Broadman for deeper insights:
"It was very good... A five star read for me. And go listen to our episode with Chris Broadman if you haven't already." (05:06)
Mikayla is navigating a reading slump with the second book of the War of Lost Hearts series, while also tackling her winter TBR list:
"I'm on the second book right now. I'm in a little bit of a reading slump... I just started. I'm slowly knocking off my fall TBR as it's getting into December." (08:34)
Pencole (a Fictional Author) Reggie expresses frustration over the delayed release of the next book, landing Pencole on her naughty list:
"I'm sorry. Going on the naughty list for not giving us a date after psyching us out twice." (10:07)
The Prank Wars (Fictional Series) Mikayla and Kennedy humorously penalize the Zodiac Academy authors for confusing terminology and outdated references:
"If you hear 'feyrari,' I literally rewound. Put it on one time speed. Because I was like, no way did I just hear what I thought I heard." (12:04)
Spotify's Audiobook Limitations Kennedy vents about Spotify's restrictive audiobook offerings:
"It's really frustrating. I can't understand why they only give us 15 hours." (15:34)
Dark Romance Genre Both Mikayla and Kennedy place dark romance on their naughty lists, citing a lack of personal interest:
Mikayla: "On my naughty list is dark romance." (20:08)
Kennedy: "I don't like them... It's on my naughty list, but." (20:34)
Pierce Brown’s Writing Style Kennedy criticizes Pierce Brown for not outlining his books, leading to unexpected plot developments:
"He just writes books as he goes. […] He has a hat, and he writes all of his characters names in a hat." (22:34)
Authors Sharing Spoilers Hosts condemn listeners who spoil books, vehemently placing them on the naughty list:
Reggie: "Everyone, automatic naughty list for life." (28:01)
Supportive Listeners Reggie acknowledges their audience for supporting the podcast through social media engagement and participation:
"Anyone who listens to our podcast follows us on our socials... you guys are on the nice list." (31:05)
Favorite Authors
Emily Henry: Celebrated for her contributions and upcoming projects:
"She's on the nice list as every single one of her movies comes out. Cause they are gonna be bangers." (33:18)
Abby Jimenez, Elsie Silver, Sarah J. Maas (SJM), Rebecca Yarros: Recognized for their exceptional writing and impact on the hosts' reading experiences.
Kindle Unlimited and Libby App Both services receive praise for making books accessible and affordable:
Kennedy: "Libby always and forever will be on my nice list because the amount of books I would have never listened to or read if I didn't have the Libby app." (37:26)
Goodreads Contributors Reggie appreciates readers who actively update their Goodreads profiles, enhancing community interaction:
"If you update your Goodreads a lot, especially while you're reading the book... it's fun." (37:09)
The hosts interact with listener-submitted items for their Naughty or Nice lists, sharing both humorous and thoughtful entries. Notable mentions include:
Cosplaying as Bat Boys: Critiqued for over-the-top fandom expressions:
Kennedy: "Guys who cosplay as bat boys… I get it. You guys are doing your best, but for me personally, it's not it." (24:38)
Books Mentioned Within Books: Praised for creating an emotional connection:
Kennedy: "I feel like it's such a... amazing to me that an author can take these words of people that are not real and make me have such an emotional connection to them." (28:12)
Kindle Features: Appreciated for enhancing the reading experience:
"Waterproof Kindles so that they can read in peace in the bathroom." (44:20)
The hosts debate the validity of audiobooks as a form of reading, ultimately acknowledging their importance:
Reggie: "Audiobooks [have] saved me this year, quite literally." (36:21)
Kennedy: "I count them. Every single last one of them. […] Love Libby. Love the library." (37:10)
A nod to artists and authors who enhance the reading experience through creative book covers and storytelling:
Kennedy: "I love the Easter eggs that they have. The shoe covers. Yes, they're so symbolic." (43:26)
Mikayla: "Sarah J. Moss, for just providing this most epic universe." (35:38)
The trio expresses gratitude towards their listeners and hints at future interactive episodes:
Reggie: "We just gotta Say thank you. That's very, very nice." (31:41)
Kennedy: "I hope your favorite book in a special edition is brought to you by Santa." (32:35)
Mikayla: "Definitely will probably do something similar next year around Christmas time." (35:30)
Naughty OR Nice successfully blends holiday cheer with insightful literary discussions. The hosts balance playful critiques with heartfelt appreciation for their favorite authors and supportive listeners. As they wrap up, Mikayla, Reggie, and Kennedy extend warm holiday wishes, encouraging everyone to enjoy their reads and embrace the festive season.
Mikayla: "We hope you guys have such a great day and week and we'll see you guys next Wednesday. And Christmas, happy holidays." (45:30)
Notable Quotes:
Kennedy on Audiobooks:
"Audiobooks... saved me this year, quite literally." (36:21)
Reggie on Rebecca Yarros:
"She's phenomenal at writing men." (03:02)
Mikayla on Reading Slump:
"I'm in a little bit of a reading slump... but I actually, I liked the first book a lot." (08:34)
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the "Naughty OR Nice" episode, providing a detailed overview of the discussions, insights, and the hosts' engaging interactions for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.