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Mikayla
Foreign.
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Reggie
Hi everyone. Quick disclaimer for this episode. Due to some unforeseen technical issues, this episode audio is not the same as our past episodes. And because of this technical issue, we were only able to pull the audio from our camera. We did our best to clean it up so it's clear for you. And we apologize for it not being up to our usual standard. But this episode has a lot of really, really discussion and we can't wait for you to hear. Thanks for listening.
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Kennedy
Hello everybody. Welcome back to I'll Read what She's reading. I'm Reggie.
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Mikayla
I'm Mikayla. And I'm Kennedy.
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Kennedy
Today is book club discussion day and we're going to be discussing the unmaking of June Farrow by Adrienne Young. So please turn off this episode if you haven't read the book yet because there's going to be massive spoilers. And let's just say I took some notes for this one because if you know, you know. So before we get into it, we like to share what our upcoming book club book is going to be for December, which is someone want to say I bought it.
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Mikayla
The Most Wonderful Crime of the Year by Ally Carter. It's a cute little Christmas crime.
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Kennedy
Crime, crime.
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Mikayla
Christmas crime. The first, the first sentence in the synopsis is knives out gets a holiday rom com twist with arrivals to lovers. Romance, mystery.
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Kennedy
Yeah, it sounds really fun.
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Mikayla
Yeah, I'm excited. It sounds like we have two main characters. We have Maggie Chase and Ethan Wyatt. Basically from what it sounds like, there is a famous mystery writer and they just disappeared out of the locked room three days before Christmas. And then we have our main characters who it sounds like are trying to solve where the software land.
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Kennedy
I'm excited. It sounds fun, like kind of like a breath of fresh air. Something a little different from what I have on my winter tbr.
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Mikayla
A little bit of a Christmasy vibe. So it takes place around Christmas. Yeah. Some mystery, some romance. Sign us up.
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Kennedy
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
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Mikayla
Yeah.
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Kennedy
So this, we actually picked that book as our book of the month book. And so we were like, this is gonna. This would be a perfect book club book. So we hope you guys enjoy it. We haven't read it yet, but we're excited to read along with you. So. Yeah, but we're here to talk about June Farrow and boy does she have quite the story. So as a reminder, in case this is your first book club episode of ours, the way we like to do these is we start off with each of us giving our star rating and just kind of like, overall review of the book. We get into our loves and our dislikes of the book and kind of just like, go over questions that we had about the book. And then we like to end it on a fun little note, sharing our fancast ideas, because, you know, it's just fun to see who we pictured in the book. And, yeah, let's get into it because this was. I don't know about you guys. This book is not, like, unexpected for me, and it's unlike anything I've read, if not in a while or in Viber. So who would like to start by reading?
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Mikayla
I will say I was, like, so shocked by this book, meaning I've read all of her other books and this is, like, unlike anything she's ever written. So it's very, very, very, very, very different. All of her books are big young adult. This is, I think, one of the first adult books. So I just, like, was expecting something very different. So I. I don't know.
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Kennedy
Anyways, I just had to preface that. It's just.
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Mikayla
It was very different from what I've read of her other books, which was kind of fun. And that's awesome that she was able to branch out and do something different than what she's normally done. So.
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Kennedy
So, yeah, let's start with you then.
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Mikayla
I don't know. I have very conflicting feelings about this book. I think I'm gonna give it a 3.5. And I feel like the first 70%, at least for me, was just pretty slow. I wish we would have gotten more of the end a little bit closer, not just like the last 30 pages, you know, which is. It's fun, but all at the same time, I was like, this was leading up for it to only last for, like, 10 pages. So that was.
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Kennedy
Yeah, that's kind of where my mind went.
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Mikayla
So. So where does this book fall in all of the other books that you've read of her? Is it your least favorite? Probably one of my least favorites. Yeah. Yeah.
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Kennedy
Like we've said before, 3.5 is still, like, a really good rating.
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Mikayla
Yeah, it is.
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Kennedy
Yeah. That's it.
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Mikayla
Do you want to go or do you want me to go?
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Kennedy
Here we go.
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Mikayla
Okay.
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Kennedy
For me, I still haven't completely decided on three or three and a half.
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Mikayla
Because on one hand it feels more like a three star reading, but on the one hand, it also feels like a three and a half star read. Which half star really isn't that big of a difference for me. Number one, I do feel like this is a book I Could recommend to a lot of people I know. I feel like it encompasses a lot of different genres. You kind of have a little bit of historical fiction. You have a little bit of, like fantasy, sci fi. You have romance. So I feel like this is a book that a lot of readers will like. However, I agree with Michaela, it felt a little slow. There was so much build up. And then I feel like the quote, plot twist or, you know, the resolution just kind of felt flat for me. So I feel like, hey, we have this huge buildup for so long and then it's revealed who killed her father. It's revealed. You know, there's little reveals, which. There's one that I will talk about that actually kind of shocked me. But for the most part, the whole book just kind of fell flat. And I feel like overall, I just kind of was left wanting more. It is a really short book, which is nice, but I felt like I just needed more. I needed more explanation on the time travel. I wanted more. After the end, it just. I wanted more.
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Kennedy
Yeah, I think I'm gonna get. I didn't enjoy it. I just like you, Kennedy. And I guess, like you, I got to like 65, 70% of the way through. And I was like, I'm already this far into this book and I'm already like. Like, I don't know. It just felt. There was just something about. There was so much going on and there are so many questions and so many. It was so much. And then, yeah, the ending, I was kind of just like, whoa. I thought that the time travel. Time travel is really hard in books. Sometimes. It's very. I had to just have a. You have to have to have a lot of mental energy with this book. I wasn't having a lot of mental energy when I was reading it. I was trying my very best. I did write a lot of notes, but I felt like I had to pause this book a lot because I was listening to it mostly and really have to, like, think about it, which I really appreciate in books. I love when books will make me think. But I think with the way that it ended, I wasn't completely satisfied with the payoff of it. With how much I had to think and all the questions I had. I don't feel like the payoff for me was worth it necessarily. However, I really liked the whole premise of it and there were so many cool twists and turns that I thought were really fun. And I also just like. I didn't connect with any of the characters all that much. And I wanted to like, have a character I was attached to in the book. I mean, didn't necessarily so, but that could have just been a me problem. On Our Fable, a lot of people really, really loved it, and it was really fun to read your reviews on there. So I'm glad that those of you who've been following along with Fable really enjoyed it. Yeah, I still enjoyed reading it, and I am glad I did.
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Mikayla
I mean, the Goodreads rating, average rating for this book is so high. I think there's a lot of people who would really, really love this book. And like Reggie said, our Fable, you guys really loved the book. And most people that I've been seeing that I'm friends with on Goodreads that have read this book have rated it higher than. Higher than all three of us. So I think it's a really great book for a lot of people. I don't know about you guys, but I think I went into this book with very different expectations than what it was. I feel like people were kind of advertising this as a cozy. I don't know how it was just in my brain, it just felt like it was going to be a lot different. I don't know if you guys agree with me, but this book felt like a mashup of time traveler's life and where the crowd had saved. Yes.
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Kennedy
Yeah, I kept getting that vibe.
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Mikayla
Yes. Probably because it's a similar setting almost as where the crowd had seen. But the entire time, I just kept thinking, crime. Yes, I'm spectacular.
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Kennedy
You know, I bought the same thing. Like, the.
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Mikayla
Who done it?
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Kennedy
I will say I really liked the flower farm vibe. That was really cool. Like, when I first started the book, I was like, ooh, this is cool. I liked that.
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Mikayla
I also. I had no idea it was, like, adult. Okay. Yeah. Because all the other books were young adult. I don't know. I was just like, yeah. Expecting something very different. Very, very different. When I started reading, I was like, what am I reading? You know? So. I don't know. I will say at the end, I felt very unsatisfied. Say. Yeah, I felt. I felt conflicted because I understood she had this, like, life that in the past. But also I was like, what about Mason? Oh, my gosh. Same.
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Kennedy
Yeah. The poor guy.
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Mikayla
Yeah. I was like, what a. I really wish, like, she would have been able to, like, go back and at least get some closure with him. That's why I. I don't know how.
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Kennedy
You continue having no closure with that kind of friendship that you've had. Yeah, I felt really Sad for him.
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Mikayla
Yeah. So I have a lot of questions about the time travel and the loop and everything, but I feel like we can maybe get into it later with all the questions that we have maybe around our dislikes, because that's one of my dislikes. But let's start with Mikaela. What is. What was your favorite? Or something? Like, some things you loved about the book? There was. I mean, the setting was really fun, and I. There were things I did like about the book. I mean, it was fun reading about a protagonist that was older because I feel like it's kind of rare to read. I think she was, like, 34.
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Kennedy
34.
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Mikayla
So it's kind of fun. I liked, you know, getting a different insight that, like, her life was just kind of beginning at, like, 34, which I think is cool, because your life doesn't have to, like, necessarily end. You don't have to make all these decisions when you're, like, in your 20s. I think my absolute favorite part is when she kind of had that moment with Annie when she went back in time. And, you know, I think it was a unique experience for her, like, saying, like, I never wanted kids, and then all of a sudden for her to have this child, and then her having, like, this bonding experience with her and her coming to the realization, like, I have this kid and I. I love her. You know, I thought that was really sweet. I think that was probably my favorite part. I think.
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Kennedy
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I also really just liked to kind of go along with that. Her inner. She just was like this. Had this internal battle the entire time, and I was really excited to see where she was going to end up. And so I really liked that there was this conflict the entire time. It felt a little frustrating at times and had me guessing. But I also loved that it kept me guessing because. I don't know. I think I just read some books recently where, like, I was three steps ahead the entire time. There were still some things I guessed in the book, but I just really liked having a book that really made me think. Like, there was a lot of times I thought usually I could just listen.
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Mikayla
To an audiobook and just kind of.
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Kennedy
You know, I can pay attention and be doing something. But, like, I really had to, like, if I was going to listen to it, I had to make sure I had a decent amount of time to really just sit and be really immersed in it, which I really liked, because I wasn't the good at that necessarily.
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Mikayla
So, yeah, I think there was one chapter I want to say it's chapter 28 around there where it's kind of. You get. Not an. Not an info dump, but you kind of get all of. There's one specific chapter where you have all these questions. It's like, well, who is Annie in 2024? And you have all these questions, and then there's one chapter that answers all of your questions. And I remember reading that in the sauna in my gym, and there was people having a conversation inside the sauna, and I was, like, having to literally whisper and read the book because I had to focus so hard to understand all of the things. I think for me, my favorite part genuinely was the setting. I mean, like, North Carolina, the flower farm just was. I felt like. With Adrian. Adrian, right. That's how you say. With her writing, I just felt like I could see everything so clearly. It felt very cinematic. Her writing, the way she described things felt, like, very immersive. And so that, for me, is probably my favorite part of the whole book. And it's really making me want to read more books by her because she describes things so well visually. And it's weird because I feel like a lot of the times, authors rely on smell to describe things. And Fun fact, you guys, I can't smell smell. I don't have a sense of smell. And so when authors describe smells, I just kind of, like, brush right past. But her, she was so visually descriptive in a way that made me feel like I could see everything but not being overly descriptive at the same time.
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Kennedy
Not too flowery. Yes.
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Mikayla
Yeah. So I really enjoyed her writing style and the setting. That was my favorite part of the whole book because I felt like I was mayor the tutorial. I will say, I think that is definitely one of her strong suits. Like, I can visualize things very well when I read her books, and it doesn't, like, it's not overpowering from, like, the plot and story. I also. I really actually liked Iman's character because I really. I really felt for him. And I, like, of course, like, I don't know, I felt conflicted with him as well, because I couldn't imagine being in that place.
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Kennedy
And then, like, you.
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Mikayla
Know, trying to fight off those feelings, like, this is my wife, but, like, not my wife, you know, I don't know. I just. I really felt for his character. And I'm really excited to tell you, my bad guest, I really liked how he just didn't give right into her. Yes. It took a while. Had to kind of build up. He had to kind of resolve some issues that he had. But my question to you guys, and maybe I'm the only one that felt.
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Kennedy
This way, did you guys feel like.
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Mikayla
The romance was believable? For some reason, I just didn't feel a lot of chemistry and connection between them. I don't know. It's probably just me. There was something about it that I just felt this disconnect. Like, I loved how Imon took a while to come to her, but then when they came together, it just felt. I don't know. It just didn't feel real.
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Kennedy
I don't know. I was. I felt the same way. And I was trying to decide if it was because when I first started this book, I really didn't know much about it other than there's, like, a time travel element that's really all I knew. And so in the beginning, at first, I was like, oh, it's gonna be kind of like this romance of, like, the friends, like, Mason. And then, you know what I mean? I was thinking it was gonna be this, like, bigger romance story. Not saying it wasn't, but, like, it wasn't what I was expecting, I guess. And so then I was like, oh, this is a little bit more about the murder and the, like, fixing the.
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Mikayla
I don't even know what you want to call it.
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Kennedy
The loop. And so then I had to, like, I kind of came to terms with the fact, like, which I was fine, that this isn't like, this big, epic romance. In a sense, in a way, it was, but, like, that wasn't the forefront of this book, you know? So I don't know. But if that's why I felt like the same way you did, where I was kind of like, I don't know. Do you feel differently?
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Mikayla
Not necessarily. I don't know. I feel like the chemistry was more there for the family dynamic. Yeah, I can see that. Like, it wasn't necessarily about Iman and Jun. It was about the them as a family. Yeah, that's what I feel like the chemistry was at was not necessarily her focusing on Imani. It was like, I have a family. Like, being a mom, do I want to be like, you know, like, this is the choice I had to make. Like, in her coming to that role, I think was more where I, like, saw the chemistry because I'm not a parent, But I feel like when you do have a kid, your world isn't just between you and your spouse. It's like your kids are involved in that too. And so maybe that's where I wasn't, like, necessarily paying attention to like, oh, their chemistry is not there. Because I was more thinking, like, the family dynamic.
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Kennedy
Okay. Yeah.
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Mikayla
More so kind of like a role as a wife and mother than like.
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Kennedy
Yes.
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Mikayla
Sexual chemistry. Like. Yeah, I can totally see that. Nothing say that. Yeah. So I feel like that was. I didn't necessarily pinpoint that until you, like, said it. I can definitely see where you're coming from when it comes to that, but my mind was just going in that other direction when it came to the family. So I think that definitely was more the purpose than. Yeah, for sure. And I think too kind of what you said as well, Reggie, like, it wasn't. It almost was kind of like a subplot. Ish. Like, meaning the main plot was obviously her coming to this decision. Does she really want to be a wife and a mother? Like, does she want to stay here? Does she want to go back? But also her and Iman, genuinely. That was definitely more of a sad plot. It was more so the decision she was having to make. Yeah, for sure. I think that's why. Yeah. No, I mean, it was. It was cute at the end where, like, she was saying that, like, they got married again, but I thought that would have been like. I hate when they, like, put it just at the, like, end. Yeah. Like, I want, you know, you want to be a little bit more satisfied with.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
You know, seeing all this come to fruition. And then it's also like, we got married again and that's it. Instead of like, you know, getting that romantic gesture of, like, him proposing again and saying, like, I want to, like, seal the deal, like, let's get married again. And, like, so you can feel like, I don't know. So that was kind of my feelings about that.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Anyways, I wanted more. I needed more. Yeah. Which I guess could lead us into. What are his dislikes. I genuinely just feel so bad for Mason. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. The book ended and I was like, okay, first of all, my first question was, okay, so she broke the loop. That means that her and Mason never were together. Right. Or were they to. That's. That's. To me, this is. This is my biggest qualm with the book. And maybe it's because I'm a big sci fi girly and I understand that I needed to just suspend disbelief for the time travel for just the a second and just let it be a more cozy, less high stakes. It wasn't about the sci fi. It wasn't about the time travel. I didn't need to know the science, but I was like, how does this work? You're. I just had so many questions. Like Mason, they were never together. Now also, you just left him and now he's like my best friend just disappeared. Yeah. Also, where is ema in the 2024 timeline? Like, was he dead? Because Birdie was Annie and she's old. You know what I mean? I just was like, where. Where are all these people? Are they dead? I think so. Yeah.
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Kennedy
It just felt like too many moving parts.
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Mikayla
It felt a little convoluted for me. Yeah. I don't know. I think for me, my biggest dislike was I love the time travel, but I hated it at the same time. It just left for too many, like, little holes, I think. Okay, so to answer kinds of questions with Mason, they were together the year before the first. Scammy. I know. I mean. And then. So she left a year prior than the first original one. So she got the memories. Yeah. From that. But then if she. So this is where it gets crazy. So June came back past. Okay, so we have 2024 June and we have 2022 June. Right. 23. 2023 and 24 June. Yeah. So 24 June was the one that Iman originally fell in love with, but the 23rd of June. So back in time, she traveled to a further ahead version of Iman, but she broke the. What do they call it? She broke the loop from 2023. So that means 2024 June never existed. Yeah. So then her and Mason never were together. Technically, no. Okay. Yes. Okay. And also, June can't be alive at the same time. When. So when she was born, the older Jimin disappears. Yeah, she does. So when she was born as a little girl, she can't exist. So when her mom had her. But that was in a past time, like it was in the past.
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Kennedy
So, like, when she's having all these. Okay, maybe I'm just kind of like, saying things.
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Mikayla
No, because her mom has to be born again. Remember at the end it says I watched my mom.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Yeah. And then. And then her mom is born. And then once she's born, she no longer exists in the timeline that she's in right now. Oh, that's really sad. Yeah, it's really sad, actually.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Reggie
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Kennedy
Like it truly, like the whole time I was reading this, I was just.
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Mikayla
Like, this is tragic. I'll never complain about my family drama ever again. Also, it's so interesting that she put the three travel mark. I almost wish she wouldn't. No, I mean, she did so that June had to make a decision.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Yeah.
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Kennedy
But like, like, it makes it higher stakes.
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Mikayla
Yeah.
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Kennedy
I guess I just don't love that I finished this book. Having so many questions. Like, I just. And the thing is, I'm like, I guess if she would have simplified it, would I have enjoyed it as much as I did? I don't know. But it was like I finished this book and I was like, wait. Like, I had to. I've just been thinking about it all morning, trying to piece it together and I hate that I can't have it. Like, I wish I was trying to search for a map. Like some sort of time travel map I had.
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Mikayla
Like, I should make one. I wonder if she does end up with Mason. Because if you think about it, when she's born again, her previous self doesn't matter and they no longer time travel, so they were just gonna continue her life. So what you're saying is her. Well, she broke. This is the other thing. If she breaks the curse. Yeah. Her mom never travels back. Yeah.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Maybe we're thinking too much about it. But what if she gets to live like two lives and she just doesn't remember? Yeah, let's try. I like that. I'm gonna go with that.
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Kennedy
Maybe.
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Mikayla
Maybe Mason does do a happy ending. But wouldn't she be really. No, she wouldn't be super old because Birdie Is older. So maybe once. She would be her normal age. Yeah. She would be her normal age. Yeah. Because also, let's say this because of the age of June when she. Reggie's like, mine is just blown.
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Kennedy
No, it's my stomach. You can't hear it. My stomach is brimming much.
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Mikayla
Here's this. Here's what we're going to say. Okay. So she is 34 when she's.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Iman, obviously, it's going to take a decent amount of time for her mom to be born because Margaret. Yeah. Is only 16.
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Kennedy
Yes.
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Mikayla
It's going to take a decent amount of years. So Margaret has Susanna. Yes. Suzanne. It's going to take her a decent amount of time. I'm also gonna photo this. It's gonna take her a decent amount of time to get pregnant. But if she can't travel back, she never gets pregnant by Rutherford. Rutherford. So June never exists. Oh, interesting. Okay, you're right. So Jude never exists as a baby because her mom can't have her because Rutherford is 10. There it is. There's the answer. You're right. Sorry, you guys just had to listen to us work this out for 10 minutes. Dang. No, you're right. Yeah. I didn't think about that day.
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Kennedy
This book just had me flabbergasted. Like.
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Mikayla
Mason, honestly, give me a little, like, novella.
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Kennedy
I just want to seem happy.
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Mikayla
Yeah. I can be an egglord. I am some, like, meet someone else at the flower farm. Like, that's cute. And then he's like, you know, like, I never thought I'd move on, but I did well.
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Kennedy
And he, like, says that little confession to her in the beginning where he's like, what does he say to her? He says something like, I know we're just waiting to, like, be together. Basically, he was the wrong man for her. And it's like, then she literally leaves that quickly. Imagine the heartache was rooting for him for a little bit.
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Mikayla
Me too. But when you bring a kid into it. Yeah.
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Kennedy
Like.
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Mikayla
So. Honestly, I think she would have gone back to Mason if Annie was not my thing.
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Kennedy
Oh, I agree 100% because he's familiar to her and Yvonne isn't familiar to her, but it's like to put herself in myself in her shoes. It's like you go from. And this is what I liked about the book. It's like you go from having something that's familiar. You have your mind made up about something, but then to see yourself in this other world that you didn't think you would ever live in. And she got to like, fall in love with it. It's like almost a no brainer where it's like, yeah, I love Mason. But then like, you'd be mourning this life that you wish you wouldn't have had, but now you know you get to have. And so, yeah.
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Mikayla
I also think it played a part in her decision that her love with Mason and her life with Mason as a couple was pure memories. She was getting tiny little glimpses, whereas Iman and Annie were in front of her. She got to see with her own eyes, her own mind at that moment in time what she'd be missing out on. Yeah. And also a kid plays a big part in that.
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Kennedy
Yeah. Yeah. How do you just be like, just kidding.
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Mikayla
Bye. For a second thought she was gonna leave and I was gonna be like, you are the most unlikable character on planet Earth. I hate you. She chose to say, yeah, so that was a very long winded way of saying my dislikes. What were your guys dislikes? If it's anything different than what we've already discussed. I don't think it's anything super different. Maybe just like almost like slowness in the beginning. I feel like there. I wish there would have been more clues. I wish there would have been a little bit more clues sprinkled in. In the middle. Ish part instead of it kind of like all just coming together at the very end.
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Kennedy
Yeah. What was your biggest plot? Like, what was the biggest plot twist for you guys?
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Mikayla
Burn. I did not see that. Kind of mean. I knew she killed him.
- [32:53]
Kennedy
Yeah, that's it.
- [32:54]
Mikayla
But Birdie. Yeah, I was like, why? I didn't think. I mean, it's smart to change her name.
- [33:01]
Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Obviously that would have been too obvious if you go to the nanny, but yeah, that was wild to me. I was like, what? But also how trippy that she got to raise for more. Yeah, it was weird. Yeah. A little bit of a twist. Yeah.
- [33:21]
Kennedy
I was trying to like, think sometimes, like, it would be cool to like, hang out with the teenage version of my mom. You know what I mean? Like, obviously Bertie wasn't a teenager when her mom was a teenager, but, like, it would be kind of cool to see yourself in your parents in a way that you've never seen them before. But how trippy is that on June's end to be like, yeah, yeah. Like, I. I try to think if it was like me and my. My daughter and that would feel very, very weird. But I don't know.
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Mikayla
Also, if I was June, I could never. My blog mouth I'd be going to people in the past, be like, this happens, this happens, this happens. I'm such a big blog mouth.
- [34:22]
Kennedy
But it was like a rule.
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Mikayla
It was like, yeah, but I would be the person to say something. Then the butterfly effect, and then the world ceases to exist. The self control and also the self control of Margaret. Oh, yeah, her grandma, she knows everything. Doesn't tell her anything. I guess until she confused about that part.
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Kennedy
I basically just wrote a bunch of notes saying, like, margaret, she's fishy, Nathaniel, fishy. Like, I just. Everyone was fishy.
- [34:56]
Mikayla
Everybody was fishy.
- [34:56]
Kennedy
But yeah, Margaret, yeah. This was just one big mind death for me.
- [35:05]
Mikayla
But I think we just think about things too much. I'm sure people that enjoyed it just, like, took it for what it was. Yeah.
- [35:14]
Kennedy
And then we're like. And they were just so satisfied we're dissecting it all.
- [35:19]
Mikayla
Make this make sense. Yeah. You know. You know, I can really see now that we've discussed this and kind of talked more about books, I can see why people rate it really highly because it's so unlike anything out there that I've read. You do have to think a lot. And when you sit and think about all the little decisions and the consequences of those decisions, it's pretty epic. But.
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Kennedy
Oh, also, sorry. What about, like, Caleb? That was also, like, a really weird thing.
- [35:53]
Mikayla
Sorry, I don't know. Yeah, we haven't talked about Caleb, but.
- [35:56]
Kennedy
We haven't talked about Caleb.
- [35:57]
Mikayla
Talked about the murder.
- [36:00]
Kennedy
Yeah. That's kind of like the whole premise of the book, in a sense. I just thought that the ending of Caleb was just kind of weird.
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Mikayla
You just left. I mean, I feel like it kind of makes sense because I feel like in what time period was it? 1951. 51. Which I feel like the. The police. I feel like we're just corrupt.
- [36:23]
Kennedy
Meaning. Yeah, okay.
- [36:26]
Mikayla
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, they really didn't live by any laws. It was just like the popularity that people had with, you know, and so I think he was just. My personal opinion was that he was having a moral dilemma of, like, I'm supposed to reprimand this girl, but come to find out she's actually my sister. And he knows his dad is a big old piece of poo. Yes. Flaming hot, fiery pieces. And so I think to get like that, I mean, if I was to receive that information, I would. I would be, like, you know, shocked and probably would leave. Yeah. His whole world was wrong. Yeah.
- [37:16]
Kennedy
Yeah. Also, this is just a random thing. I was thinking of how about her, like, walking through the door into 1951.
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Mikayla
What was she wearing?
- [37:27]
Kennedy
You know, like, she's walking. You know what I mean? Like, that was one thing I was thinking about and so. And it didn't seem super obvious to people outside of the family that, like, she. I don't know.
- [37:42]
Mikayla
Well, in my opinion, I feel like farmers kind of all have the same look since. Yeah, she's probably wearing overalls and that's what they were probably wearing. But I mean, also, she walked into the flower farm, Right. She didn't see townspeople. She saw, like, she only saw that older lady. Yeah. And then maybe it was like she walks through the portal and she just transforms into 19.
- [38:12]
Kennedy
Yeah. Because I'm just like, imagine if she was wearing, like.
- [38:16]
Mikayla
But also.
- [38:17]
Kennedy
Yeah, she probably had to be wearing something. But even then, like, she's wearing barrel jeans.
- [38:25]
Mikayla
Free people Overall. Barrel jeans. Well, no, I. I don't think those transform because they're like. Do you have anything from the future? Yeah, but she left her phone stuck in the truck.
- [38:40]
Kennedy
Imagine she would have had her phone.
- [38:43]
Mikayla
Sorry. All the morning. Let's think of something. Oh, it's time to be real. It's time to be real. They're like, what? I don't know. Since it's a Snapchat, I feel like she. I feel like she wasn't wearing overalls. I don't know why that. Like, is that a thing in the 1950s or they were just wearing dresses. No, because in her closet there was overalls. I feel like the overall thing is the. Yeah, she didn't wear. She was wearing overalls. Now I'm just, like, dissecting the free people bear roles once again. We're overthinking things way too much. We just need to take things at surface value. But I feel like it's hard when it's hard in a. Because it was only like a 300 and something page book, right?
- [39:30]
Kennedy
Yeah, it's hard.
- [39:31]
Mikayla
I feel like in a book with this type of content to have all the questions answered. Yeah. Once again, I appreciate that it was really short, but I would have probably liked maybe give me, like, 20 more pages with them just being happy. Cute.
- [39:47]
Kennedy
Yep.
- [39:47]
Mikayla
Give me that. Yep.
- [39:50]
Kennedy
The very last question in the. Who would you cast in the film adaptation of the book?
- [39:57]
Mikayla
Love it.
- [39:57]
Kennedy
Do you want to jump into that?
- [39:58]
Mikayla
Let's do it.
- [39:59]
Kennedy
It says that in the reader's guide. It's the last question, which I don't feel like I've seen that before, so I don't have any. I am so sorry. I maybe have one for Mason if I can like finish piecing his face in my mind. But I want to hear what you guys.
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Mikayla
Who do you have for you? What people do you have? June, Iman and Margaret. Okay, let's. Let's do that. If you can think of one for Caleb, add him in.
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Kennedy
Mason.
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Mikayla
Sorry. Yeah.
- [40:26]
Kennedy
Mason by that. Yeah.
- [40:27]
Mikayla
Okay. For June.
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Kennedy
Sorry.
- [40:30]
Mikayla
Brie Larson. Oh, you want to know what? I'm not even going to say mine because I do like hers. And let me tell you why. There are some people, you know how people say, you know, 2024 face. She is someone that I think can fit in in any time period.
- [40:50]
Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Have you seen Lessons in Chemistry? No. While she's cast enough. Yes. Based in. I have some.
- [40:57]
Kennedy
Like the.
- [40:58]
Mikayla
Yeah. Previous. Previous Garden. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She's good.
- [41:07]
Kennedy
I like that.
- [41:07]
Mikayla
I'm not. I'm not telling you my. Mine was just from my cast. Okay. So I just looked at my cast because I didn't have one and it is Haley Bennett. I don't really know what she's been in.
- [41:22]
Kennedy
I'm sure she's great though.
- [41:23]
Mikayla
I'm sure she would be great. Brie Larson is a good one. Bray Larson leaves. Oh, that's a good. That's a good cast. Thanks. Okay, what do you have for Ema? Henry Cavill. I just want to see. Oh my gosh. Give me his arm. His sleeves roll up to his elbows.
- [41:42]
Kennedy
He's working in a biceps.
- [41:45]
Mikayla
Oh, yeah, imagine. Imagine Brie Larson and Henry Cavill together. I know. Wow. That's why I was giggling before.
- [41:55]
Kennedy
They look like a little four year old girl.
- [41:57]
Mikayla
Yes. Okay. That's the one time it's okay to use Henry Cavill. I think he would be like such a big character. Broody. Yes. But then also like he would play a farmer. So. Well, he would. He's got that. I mean he's not Irish, but the little Irish accent, you know, that Iman has. I think he could do it. He could do it. He could. He could be a little British instead. Yeah. Is Harry Cowell British? No. No, he's not. Why was I thinking he's British? The. My cast casting for Yvonne is tied between. I don't know who this person is. David Corn sweat and Paul Mescal. Paul Mescal. I feel like Paul Mescal is too young. I agree.
- [42:42]
Kennedy
But yeah, Paul Mescal.
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Mikayla
He's a cutie. Plays a cutie, can be a good farmer. But Henry Chavel wins by low side. Show me the forearms. I just want to see in a white shirt. A white shirt. Yeah. Sweating in the tobacco field. Tobacco leaves. Yep. Field. Okay. Anyways, he can be broody. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Okay. Margaret. Mine. I picked Ellie. Fanny.
- [43:15]
Kennedy
Okay. My.
- [43:15]
Mikayla
The. My cast one is really similar.
- [43:17]
Kennedy
It's mechanic race. Kind of similar. Yes.
- [43:21]
Mikayla
I think either of those would be great.
- [43:23]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [43:23]
Mikayla
I mean, both of them are probably a little. Maybe a little too old to play 16. Yeah. But I think they could look young.
- [43:29]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [43:30]
Mikayla
Yeah. They have those faces that could just look young.
- [43:32]
Kennedy
Yeah. I'm just saying. You're nodding my head.
- [43:34]
Mikayla
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Did you come up with your one for Mason? No.
- [43:39]
Kennedy
I have like a picture of him in my brain, but I can't think of anyone. I can't like a actor to the face.
- [43:46]
Mikayla
So are you guys ready to hear my cast? One for Mason? Yeah. Glen Powell. No, that's like. Sorry, that's the worst.
- [43:56]
Kennedy
Yeah, I think I can't see that at all. No, I was picturing someone that looks.
- [44:04]
Mikayla
Like my first.
- [44:04]
Kennedy
I was picturing like curly, ish kind of hair.
- [44:07]
Mikayla
Yes. Also a farmer. Yeah. Don't get me wrong.
- [44:13]
Kennedy
Glenn Powell is great.
- [44:14]
Mikayla
I just think that is not. He's too unserious for Mason. Yeah.
- [44:19]
Kennedy
I may see Glen Powell in like an Emily Henry movie.
- [44:23]
Mikayla
Yes. Yeah. Yes. I agree.
- [44:26]
Kennedy
Yeah. So that's what we have.
- [44:28]
Mikayla
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
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Kennedy
We hope you guys enjoyed this episode and we are looking forward to reading the most wonderful crime of the year with you guys. Another book with another crime. If you aren't already following us on Fable, go join our book club over there. It's a really great way to discuss the book kind of chapter by chapter.
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Mikayla
So.
- [44:55]
Kennedy
So you're not getting any spoilers. It's always really fun to interact with you guys on there. And hope you guys are having a great holiday season. Cuz, you know, we just have Thanksgiving. Having some more fun stuff come up. Hope you guys are having a cozy reading time. So with all that said, we will see you next Wednesday.
- [45:19]
Mikayla
Bye.
- [45:21]
Kennedy
Sa.