Silver Elite by Dani Francis | JUNE BOOK CLUB

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Silver Elite" by Dani Francis | June Book Club

Podcast Information

• Title: I'll Read What She's Reading
• Hosts: Reggie, Mikayla, and Kennedy
• Episode Title: Silver Elite by Dani Francis | JUNE BOOK CLUB
• Release Date: July 2, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of I'll Read What She's Reading, hosts Reggie, Mikayla, and Kennedy dive deep into their June book club selection, "Silver Elite" by Dani Francis. The discussion navigates through their initial impressions, ratings, favorite and least favorite aspects of the book, and even ventures into a playful fan cast segment.

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Author Identity Speculation

Mikayla and Reggie kick off the discussion by pondering the true identity behind the pen name Danny Francis. They consider whether a well-known author like Rebecca Yarros, Colleen Hoover, or Stephanie Meyer might be behind the pseudonym.

• Mikayla: "When I bought this book, the girl at Barnes and Noble thought it was Rebecca Yarros. But I couldn't shake the feeling it wasn't her, especially since Rebecca is already well-known." (01:57)

• Reggie: "I stand by my theory that it might be Colleen Hoover. She's the only one that makes sense to me, given her current trajectory." (04:37)

Despite the speculation, both agree that the true identity may remain a mystery, appreciating the fun in guessing while respecting the author's choice to remain anonymous.

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Book Ratings

The hosts share their ratings for "Silver Elite," offering varying perspectives on the book's strengths and shortcomings.

• Reggie: "I gave it a 3.5. It wasn't revolutionary, but the dystopian vibes were refreshing and bingeable." (07:22)

• Mikayla: "I'm debating between three and three and a half. The predictability and ease of Ren's journey held me back." (09:24)

• Kennedy: "Three and a half stars. It was fun, but plot holes and character frustrations kept it from being higher." (Unknown Timestamp)

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Favorite Aspects of the Book

The hosts highlight the elements they enjoyed most in "Silver Elite," despite their overall moderate ratings.

• Magic and Telepathy:
  Reggie: "The telepathy and different abilities were really cool. Learning about the characters' powers felt engaging." (13:07)

• Character Dynamics:
  Mikayla: "I loved Kane as a character. His comedic relief and interactions added depth to the story." (15:28)

• Dystopian Setting:
  Reggie: "The dystopian setting was refreshing and made the world-building enjoyable." (34:14)

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Least Favorite Aspects of the Book

Conversely, the hosts discuss the book's drawbacks, reflecting on what diminished their reading experience.

• Predictability and Plot Holes:
  Reggie: "I felt like I could predict most of the plot, which reduced the suspense." (07:22)

  Mikayla: "Everything felt so easy and convenient for Ren. The challenges weren’t substantial until later." (09:24)

• Character Inconsistencies:
  Reggie: "Ren felt inconsistent and sometimes insufferable, which affected my connection to her." (23:07)

  Mikayla: "Ren was contradicting herself constantly, making it hard to empathize with her." (24:21)

• Pacing Issues:
  Reggie: "The pacing felt rushed, especially the eight-week training period." (18:04)

  Mikayla: "The emphasis on certain plot points felt misplaced, leading to a disjointed narrative." (22:33)

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In-Depth Plot and Character Discussions

The conversation delves into specific plot points and character developments that left the hosts puzzled or frustrated.

• Ren's Betrayal and Uncle's Letter:
  Mikayla: "The letter at the end really threw me for a loop. I'm confused about Ren's parents and their roles." (27:22)

  Reggie: "The letter suggests her uncle loved her despite her betrayal, but it raises more questions about her past." (28:39)

• Kane's Survival and Role:
  Mikayla: "I was livid when Kane died, but his survival was unexpected." (35:34)

  Reggie: "I wasn't surprised he would come back, even though he did die." (35:37)

• Ren's Trust Issues and Motivations:
  Mikayla: "Ren's decision to heal her burns to prove trust felt unrealistic and frustrating." (41:01)

  Reggie: "She could have simply explained her burns without risking her life." (41:45)

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Fan Cast Imaginings

Embracing a fun segment, the hosts imagine actors who could portray the characters from "Silver Elite."

• Cross:
  Reggie: "Theo James is the perfect fit for Cross. He embodies the character's depth and presence." (43:04)

  Mikayla: "I see Cross resembling characters from Divergent, but I also thought about Miles Teller for Kane." (43:07)

• Kane:
  Mikayla: "Miles Teller suits Kane, especially with his roles in action-packed films." (47:31)

• Fatima:
  Reggie: "I pictured Fatima as Zoe Kravitz, adding a dynamic edge to her character." (48:28)

The segment highlights their playful attempt to visualize the book's characters bringing them to life on screen.

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Conclusion and Next Book Announcement

Wrapping up the discussion, the hosts express their mixed feelings about "Silver Elite" but appreciate its entertainment value.

• Kennedy: "It was a fun read, even with its imperfections. Not every book club selection is a five-star masterpiece." (52:28)

• Mikayla: "A great bingeable dystopian-fantasy mix. Looking forward to more intricate plots in the next book." (33:32)

The episode concludes with the announcement of their July book club selection:

• Next Book: "Shield of Sparrows" by Devnee Perry (51:46)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "It was nothing revolutionary. I did have pretty low expectations just from things I saw on TikTok." — Reggie (07:22)

• "Ren would say one thing and then do something completely different. And that's frustrating." — Mikayla (24:21)

• "The telepathy and different abilities were really cool." — Reggie (13:07)

• "I was so mad at a character when Ren decides to heal her burns to profess her love to Cross." — Mikayla (41:39)

• "It's kind of funny picturing the Divergent cast but on a dystopian-fantasy blend." — Reggie (43:36)

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Timestamps

For reference, here are some key timestamps from the discussion:

• [00:39] - Hosts introduce the episode and book selection.
• [01:00] - Discussion about pen names and author anonymity.
• [07:22] - Reggie shares his book rating.
• [09:24] - Mikayla shares her rating and thoughts.
• [13:07] - Favorite aspects: magic elements and telepathy.
• [23:07] - Reggie discusses character frustrations.
• [24:21] - Mikayla elaborates on Ren's character inconsistencies.
• [27:22] - Mikayla discusses the confusing letter about Ren's parents.
• [35:34] - Mikayla is surprised by Kane's survival.
• [41:39] - Mikayla expresses frustration over Ren's actions.
• [43:04] - Fan cast segment begins.
• [51:46] - Announcement of the next book.
• [52:28] - Reggie and Mikayla reflect on their ratings and feelings.

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Stay Tuned: Join Reggie, Mikayla, and Kennedy next month as they explore "Shield of Sparrows" by Devnee Perry, continuing their journey through engaging book discussions and insightful conversations.

Transcript

[Reggie]

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[Mikayla]

Hi guys. Welcome back to I'll read what she's reading. I'm Mikayla.

[Reggie]

I'm Reggie.

[Mikayla]

And I'm Kennedy. We're talking about our book club book for May.

[Reggie]

June.

[Mikayla]

June, June, June, June. It's for June, not May. Silver Elite by Danny Francis. Danny Francis? Yes. AKA we don't know.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

A. A pen. What is it called?

[Reggie]

A pen name.

[Mikayla]

A pen name. Okay. When they like are anonymous about who they are, I think at the very end we should talk about who we think Danny Francis is. Okay.

[Reggie]

Even though I've been seeing some tiktoks of people like saying you shouldn't be speculating who it is. Like if they want to be hidden, there's a reason for it and you need to like give them like respect that. But I see what you're saying. But I'm like, it's a. It's fun to guess, you know, let's.

[Mikayla]

Just, let's just do it now. Why not right now? We're on that. Yeah. I have no guesses. But my thought about it is because it's for Penguin. Random House is the publisher. Publisher. And I feel like, I don't know, they would have to for their first book. You know what I'm saying? I know.

[Reggie]

Could they have different publishers if you're under a different.

[Mikayla]

Like, I would be so surprised if they could. I don't think. I don't know. I don't think they could. So I don't really have like a guess on who it was, but I feel like the track of it being someone kind of well known or at least being in the wheelhouse of the publishing industry because Random House is like a pretty big publishing company. And so like first book being with Random House, I don't know. But maybe they. They saw the manuscript for it or is that what it's called? Yeah, first draft. And was like, draft. I don't know. And was like, yeah, I like this new author. I don't know. I agree because I think maybe there wasn't a huge marketing budget for it, but it felt very marketed. And so there's no way that the publishing house would take a chance on someone who isn't already well known. And we may Never know who Danny Francis is. And that's okay. Yeah. But it's just kind of fun to, you know, theorize and guess. I don't know. I don't really have a guess. Do you have a guess? I mean, when I first. Okay. So when I bought this book, I went to Barnes and Noble, and the girl that was checking me out, she said she thought it was Rebecca Yarros. And unfortunately, I couldn't get it out of my head that it was not Rebecca Yarros. And I've been seeing Tiktoks where people were saying, that doesn't really make sense, because why would she write under a pen name? She's already well known. Yeah. But the girl at Barnes and Noble made a good point because she said, think about it. If she would have came out with a different book other than 4th Wing, people would have been upset. So, I don't know. There were just a few things, like, yeah, Danny Francis wasn't super descriptive with her characters. And I feel like Rebecca kind of has the same thing. Other than that. I mean, also, there was the hierarchy of. I can't think of military. There was military in there, you know. Oh, yeah. So kind of calling hard. I'm not super sold on that. It's just. You couldn't get it out of your brain. Yeah, I couldn't get out of my brain.

[Reggie]

I would be surprised if it was Rebecca Yarros.

[Mikayla]

Same.

[Reggie]

Just because I can totally see those reasons being valid, but I also feel like she's been a busy gal.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

I just can't see. I don't know.

[Mikayla]

Well, and she's also written other things besides Fourth Wing.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

That have come out in the middle of the whole process.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Variation in the likely event. Right. And then your new one, I should.

[Reggie]

Remember coming out soon.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. So I don't know.

[Reggie]

Interesting theory.

[Mikayla]

Do you have one?

[Reggie]

You know, as I was reading, I was, like, trying to think, who's. Does this sound like I couldn't think of anything? But I still stand by my theory that it would be kind of. Maybe I shouldn't say. Funny if it was Colleen Hoover. She's just the only one in my mind that makes sense.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

That would need. Maybe need to do something like that. I just don't see Colleen Hoover releasing anything under her current name. Right. Like her name right now, you know, with all that she's been going through. So that's the only reason why I'm, like. I can see it being that I. There's no one else that I can. Would have A good enough reason to say so.

[Mikayla]

I saw a lot of people on TikTok saying, Stephanie Meyer.

[Reggie]

Well, yeah, but I'm like, is it only because she mentions Team Jacob or Team Edward in the acknowledgments? Did you guys see that?

[Mikayla]

From what I understand, yes. But then I did see one TikTok where they said it felt reminiscent of her writing, but they hadn't read Twilight since. For years. So, you know, regardless of who it is, it's fun to kind of speculate. And we'll never know who Danny Francis is, and that's okay. You know what I'd be very curious is if we gave each other a book by well known authors and we didn't know who the author was, if we would be able to, like, guess, I feel like there would be maybe one or two where I'd be able to guess, but besides that, I'm not.

[Reggie]

Very good at being like, yeah, like, this sounds like this is like, I can. I know for sure I would be able to pick up, like, Jessa Hastings or.

[Mikayla]

That's probably about it. Like, I mean, Sarah J. Maas uses watery bowels more than anybody else. Yeah. It's true. Vulgar gesture. Yes. Yes.

[Reggie]

I don't know.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. Anyways, I'm just curious. Maybe we'll have to, like, try that sometimes. Try it sometimes and just, I don't know, like, maybe cover, like, duct tape the front of a book. Yeah. And so you don't know and, like, black out the author's name. I don't know. That could be fun. A fun challenge. Fun challenge. Anyways, let's actually get into talking about the actual book.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Shall we? Yes. We are going to now share our star ratings. I'm genuinely very curious to know what you guys rated it. I feel like I have a feeling.

[Reggie]

Same.

[Mikayla]

But I could be really wrong.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

I have a feeling, Reggie, you really didn't like it.

[Reggie]

Really?

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

Do you want me to go first?

[Mikayla]

Yeah, why not?

[Reggie]

I think. See, Mikaela said this in our last book club episode about how sometimes it's really hard when you finish the book right before we record a podcast episode. Because sometimes your rating changes after a couple of days after you sat with it for a little bit. I literally just finished it this morning, so I'm gonna give it a 3.5.

[Mikayla]

Oh, that was actually better than what I thought you were going to rate it.

[Reggie]

Yeah, I gave it a 3.5. I don't feel like it was anything revolutionary. I wrote some notes.

[Mikayla]

Hold on.

[Reggie]

Yeah. To me, it just. It was nothing revolutionary. I did have pretty low expectations just from things I saw on TikTok. I felt like people had a lot of conflicting reviews, and I tried my best to, like, scroll past a lot of them. I felt like Cross was very. He was really bland to me. And the overall romance just was. Not like. It didn't really hit for me. But I did love the dystopian vibes. It was so refreshing and so, so fun. I also felt like it was very bingeable. While I felt like I predict most things in the book, I was still, like, flipping the page. Like, I was page turning pretty quick. I really enjoyed reading it. Even though there are things that absolutely pissed me off that I maybe didn't love. I still, like, enjoyed reading it at the same time. And, yeah, there was just something about it being dystopian that felt refreshing to me. I just don't. It's weird because, like, I enjoyed reading it, but I wasn't, like, crazy impressed by it. So that's why I probably. I mean, maybe it's more of, like a three star, but right now I'm settling on 3.5, so.

[Mikayla]

Yeah, amazing. Ken, do you want to go? Sure. I'm debating between three and three and a half for me. And I also took notes. Surprise, surprise. I finished the book and I was like, I've got to actually put down what my thoughts are. So I think my biggest problem with it is I felt like everything was just so easy and convenient. All the things that happened to Ren were just. Either it came easy to her or she got lucky, or I don't really feel like she ever really had any adversity that she had to overcome until obviously, you know, she gets found out that she is. What is it called? Aber, they call her.

[Reggie]

What?

[Mikayla]

No, Aberdeen. Aberrant. Yeah. Obviously, Uncle Jim died. Sure. But I just felt like everything was so easy for her. Except for when Kane died. I did. That did throw me for a loop. And we can. I can go into that more detail a little bit later, but I will say that it was so entertaining. Kind of like Reggie, I was flipping the pages. It was very bingeable. It was very easy, but it was just predictable. I felt like I was reading a mashup of Hunger Games. There was a few things that reminded me of Red Rising in there. There just was so much. It just, like, felt like a whole bunch of books put into one, which I guess that's how most fantasy books are. And it just was not super memorable or amazing. It was Fun, but nothing to write home about. It was just. It was fine. And this might be a hot take, but I honestly didn't really like Ren. She kind of annoyed me a lot of the times.

[Reggie]

Same.

[Mikayla]

She would do things, and they just would grind my gears. So. Yeah. Three. Three and a half. What about you? I'm sitting at 3.5. I don't know. It wasn't amazing, but it worked for the time that I read it because it's. I haven't read something like it in a long time. So. Like Reggie said, the romance aspect of it was actually my least favorite part of it. In general, I loved, like, the missions, the training. That was, like, my favorite part. Sorry, I'm skipping. I'm skipping to our favorite parts, I guess, but I. I don't know. And predictable. I don't know. Like. Yeah. I knew it from the first time they met that he was. Whoa. It was. Yeah. And I was like.

[Reggie]

It was so obvious that I was just hoping that it was like they were in. She was intentionally making it obvious to throw us off.

[Mikayla]

Yes. I kept trying to convince myself that I was so wrong. Like, I was like, the ocean. I was like, I don't. It doesn't make sense. But, like, it's him. But, like, I was like, you know, I was, like, trying to, like, gaslight myself that it wasn't him. I was, like, trying to think of everything else besides it being him. At one point, I was like, maybe it's her brother. I mean, his brother, the older Run. Older one. Travis. Yeah. And I was like, no, that literally makes no sense. But I was like, but it doesn't make sense, really, for it being him. But it's him.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. So. I don't know. I also finished it this morning, probably like an hour ago. So I. Yeah, I don't know. I guess we can just go right into our favorites.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Sure.

[Reggie]

I think the. The magic elements. That's what you want to call it, was really cool. It's funny because in one of our recent podcast episodes, I think that will have come out by this point, we were talking about how we were sick of, like, the mate. The faded mate thing, but how we love the mind to mind stuff. So that whole, like, telepathy.

[Mikayla]

Not telekinesis.

[Reggie]

The whole telepathy thing was really, really cool, and I really enjoyed that. I thought it was cool that people had, you know, these different abilities and how I. I.

[Mikayla]

The.

[Reggie]

What's the word I'm looking for? Okay, remind me the difference. So there's the aberrant. Aberrants, and then there's the modifiers.

[Mikayla]

Modified. Modified are the aberrants. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Yeah. Okay. That's a weird term.

[Mikayla]

There's fractured, which are the people that can't, like, control themselves.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Or their heads. Come to find out that the. I keep wanting to say resistance. It's not the Resist. Is it called the resistance?

[Reggie]

No, Uprising.

[Mikayla]

The uprising is Surprise. They're messing up their minds. Oh, yeah.

[Reggie]

So I thought that that was really cool. Like the. The training and her trying to, like, figure out how to use her powers. And then this few of the flashbacks we got with her learning about them was really enjoyable to me. That's one of my favorite parts of the whole thing. I wanted to just, like, learn more and also, like, learning that Fatima, she's an empath or whatever. I just wanted to know more about that. I was like, I need more people to be. Have powers and hear what they are. And it was cool to kind of, like, connect the dots when you found. Found out certain things with certain powers that people had. I enjoyed that. So that was probably, like, my overall favorite part of the book for me personally. I mean, I can go on more, but you guys can say one.

[Mikayla]

You go, you, Miko. Yeah. I mean, I would probably agree with Reggie that that was one of my favorite parts. Just to be a little bit different and add something extra. I loved Kane. He was my favorite character, personally. When he died, I was so livid. My Goodreads updates was. Was. I'm pissed because I was so upset because. Not that I didn't like Cross or Ren, but every time he came on the page, I was excited. And so when he died, my excitement was gone. And I just love. I just love a comedic relief side character, and it just kind of brought that to the story. I will say, in one of our past episodes, I. Okay, obviously, we knew that Cross was the love interest. Right. Like, from the beginning, she sees this most beautiful man she's ever seen in the square. Or not the square was in the inn. Yeah. I was picturing it like a hostel. I was like, immediately, this man is the love interest. He's also wolf. But then Cain came into the picture, and for a second, I kind of thought, wait, yeah, maybe he's the love interest. So I did appreciate that aspect of the book where it had me guessing who the love interest was for maybe five chapters, and then it went back to Cross. So I did enjoy that. And yeah, the. The setting was really cool. I just want to Know more. And I think in the next book, we are obviously going to get a lot more of the powers and learn all the options that there are, because I think there are certain abilities that we don't even know about yet, which I think will be really fun. But, yeah, those are probably my top two. Specifically, a scene that I was giggling at. I don't know why I thought it was so funny, was when she snuck into Cross's apartment and he has a girl in his room. I just thought that was hilarious. I don't think it was meant to be hilarious, but she walks in, sticks a knife under his throat. Yeah, that was funny. I just found. I just found that hilarious. And picturing that in my mind. That poor woman. I know. The poor woman. Yeah. I agree with what you guys say. Ditto. Ditto. I guess, honestly, I would have loved, like, more training. I felt like it was quick. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Didn't it seem like a really rushed process? It was like eight weeks, and then you're just like, in silver early, if you. You know what I mean?

[Mikayla]

Mm. Yeah.

[Reggie]

That, to me, felt a little like. Like, that's it. Like, I feel like obviously this isn't a real. This is way into the future, you know, but to me, the pa, there was something with the pacing that felt weird, but I was like, this should not. Eight weeks is not very long.

[Mikayla]

No.

[Reggie]

To be like, learning all these skills and putting this exclusive program that felt like they were the only ones in it, you know?

[Mikayla]

But also I'm picturing it that they kind of were training their entire lives for it.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

So they had training prior. It wasn't like these random kids who had never had any sort of training being thrown into this program.

[Reggie]

I just didn't feel like the stakes to get into Silver Elite felt high enough until they were like, okay, one of you is going to come out of the. Like, you know, when they put them in the room together.

[Mikayla]

Oh, yeah. My expectations were, like, kind of on the ground.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

For this. And so I was just like, la, la, la. Cross and run fighting, military cameras, good shots. And, oh, the part that made me giggle so much. I don't know why, was when he kept scoring her. So, Yeah. I thought that was hilarious to me. I was like, I love this. Just keep doing it.

[Reggie]

Yeah, please. I also loved towards the end when she's with Xavier and they're, like, on their little trek, there just were so many funny moments to that because I. I was kind of having a hard time picturing it.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

I was like, this is a Little weird, like. And I didn't really think about that in the. I don't know if I understood what her place was like in the beginning of the book, and then I was learning more about it towards the end. But just, like, their little conversations that they were having and their little banter back and forth and, like, I don't know, that was. That made me giggle a lot, too.

[Mikayla]

It's almost like she had chemistry with the side characters. Yeah. Not, like, action Cross, really. I don't know. I feel like. I feel like Cross was just like, I wanted to you. So is that. Are we going into Least Favorites now? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I just. I really. I feel like. Dani. Is that how you say her name? Yeah. I feel like she was trying to make Cross a character that he shouldn't have been. Yeah. I don't know how else to describe it besides that. Like, you. He was this moody, broody guy, but he also was just like, I can't control myself, you know? And especially, like, in a military, you think that he would have, like, a lot more control over his feelings and thoughts, you know? I don't know. I just. I just really. I mean, sure, he's really sexy and.

[Reggie]

Beautiful, but what else is there? Just kidding. There was some depth to him, but not enough for me to be like, I love this man.

[Mikayla]

Well, I also feel like we literally just got, like, a glimpse of depth. Just like a little.

[Reggie]

It was like the scene with his mom.

[Mikayla]

That's it.

[Reggie]

And then like, maybe a little bit.

[Mikayla]

When he's wolf, kind of sort of.

[Reggie]

Yeah. When, like, they have that little moment together, there were, like, a few little sweet moments. I don't know. There's. I guess there's, like, the lot that he did that was sweet, but not in anything that I was just like, whoa, okay, I get it with. You know what I mean?

[Mikayla]

Well, it's like he was trying to be, like, two characters at once. Like, I feel like you can't have a sweet guy in the scenario. I don't know. I don't know. How do you describe it? Putting on a front to be this. The romance was not great. But also, it's weird because I almost felt like the romance was the driving force of the book at the same time. 100%, it wasn't believable, but it was the driving force of the plot. And I just didn't care about that as much as I cared about everything else. Like, the fact. And I think this is on purpose, but the fact that we know nothing still Nothing. After we read over 400 pages, we know nothing about her past. I understand that's probably on purpose, but.

[Reggie]

Then so much else happened at the same time that felt a little rushed to me that I was like, oh, we got all these other answers. But, yeah, there's something about the pacing of it that just felt so strange.

[Mikayla]

It's like the emphasis that was placed on certain things should have been placed elsewhere. Yes. I don't know. Yes. I don't know. It's hard for me to put my, like, put a pin in what was wrong exactly, but something just felt like off about a lot of things. I don't know. Is that how you guys feel?

[Reggie]

I also kind of feel like I could say what I was saying. I'm saying about Cross, I could kind of say about Ren. I mean, I know she's still trying to figure out who she is, and, like, she has so many unanswered questions, but I don't know, something about her felt just not. Which is, like, a little bit insufferable. And I know she made some, like, really stupid mistakes, which was really frustrating. But also, it's like, how good is a book if you don't get frustrated at, like, elements to the plot or. You know what I mean? So, right.

[Mikayla]

There has to be some sort of contention. I feel like it was kind of refreshing, though, in the fact, when it came to Ren's character, that she had been training all of her life, pretty much. And then it, like, she was good because she had been training. I hate when characters are just, like, all of a sudden naturally good without any training. I feel like I like that portion because it makes sense with an uncle that is training her to have a really resistant mind, you know, have a good shot, all this stuff. I liked that part of her because I. I really struggle when characters are just, like, naturally.

[Reggie]

Just amazing. Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. You know, they don't have to try. Yeah. So I did like that portion, at least, of her character. I think my biggest thing with her is she just was contradicting herself 24 7. And that was hard for me as a reader because being in her mind, she would say one thing and then she would do something completely different. And that's frustrating, but maybe that was the entire point. And I understand that kind of like.

[Reggie]

What you said, Reggie.

[Mikayla]

She doesn't have a lot of answers, and she's just trying to figure out who she is, who her. Where her allegiances are. But as. Also, as a reader, I don't even know who my allegiance is. Like, who my. Who I align with. Maybe that's the point of the book. Because who do you choose? Do you choose the uprising or do you choose the.

[Reggie]

Yeah. What are they called?

[Mikayla]

What is it called? For lack of better words, President. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know, Governor. No. Yeah. Anyway, it was also very interesting. I. Maybe you guys can tell me how you guys thought about this. It was interesting when there were some modified, modified people that were like, they were okay with them being modified, but then if anyone else was modified, like, in the streets, they were like, immediately you're. I don't know. I guess I was confused about, like.

[Reggie]

There were so many.

[Mikayla]

I think I need little alignment. Well, no, they chose to align with them from the beginning. When he overtook the original person who was in charge, that was modified. They had the tattoos, remember? Yeah. Meaning they pledged their allegiance to them. And I think that's why. Okay, but. But couldn't anyone just do that and then actually be. You would think. I think there were so many little things that just didn't really make sense. Yeah.

[Reggie]

There was a lot of people asking a lot of questions in our fable. I felt like every time I would go to, like, check a chapter to, like, see comments. There was not every chapter, but a lot of chapters were people just asking questions, like, people wanted to know. Like, I'm having a hard time understanding what Cross is wanting from Ren. Like, why is he going? Like, I don't know. I felt like there were a lot of questions that people had while reading. Nothing that was, like, super profound, but, like, just, like, tiny questions here and there that made me realize as I was reading the book that I'm like, I don't know if it's just that, like, we're going to get these answers later. And maybe it's not supposed to make sense, but after finishing the book, I was like, I don't know. Maybe some of the things will get tied up in the next book. But it's so hard. I wish I could, like, pinpoint specific things, but I felt like there were a lot of questions that people had.

[Mikayla]

My. One of my biggest questions was, and I. Someone put this in the fable. That letter at the end. Yeah. I had to read it five times, no joke, to fully understand what he had said. And maybe you guys can help me understand a little bit more. So basically, her parents are not trusted by the uprising, Correct. I couldn't tell you.

[Reggie]

I unders.

[Mikayla]

All right, we got the book. So the part that I was really confused about was, well, Mikayla Actually said this. So was her uncle in love with her mom? Yeah, I was like, maybe. What? Basically. So, yeah, it says I loved her deeply, despite what she was. So was her uncle not modified? No, he was modified. He was so confused. I know I was what she was. Yeah. So what was she? And then later on, it goes to the uprising. Your parents are known as the Tin Block Traders. So did they tr. Do they consider them traitors to the uprising? They are responsible for the loss of countless modified lives. Your mother betrayed her people and your father helped her do it. And her mom was modified. So you see, this letter was.

[Reggie]

So I think he's saying, like, he loved her even though what she. He didn't love what she did. Like, what?

[Mikayla]

Says who? So she betrayed the. She betrayed the uprising.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. And so she is. Yeah. I just. This letter really threw me for a loop. And I was expecting. I was just expecting a lot more from the ending. I know that we get this bomb dropped that Kane is alive. And he was the pilot that was. Talked to the. Like my voice. And he was a pilot that was talked about at the beginning of the book. But this letter just. I don't know, man. Despite what she was. What was she? A traitor.

[Reggie]

A traitor?

[Mikayla]

No because.

[Reggie]

Or no because.

[Mikayla]

I feel like, as he would say, despite what she did. Yeah. Instead of what she was.

[Reggie]

I guess when I like.

[Mikayla]

But it's probably.

[Reggie]

I took it as like that she was a traitor and he loved her even though she was a traitor. But then I guess what were his motives? Like, he took Ren under his wing to protect her from both sides.

[Mikayla]

Both.

[Reggie]

He knew that like.

[Mikayla]

So now are we gonna have this element of the next book where she's hiding her identity from both sides. Both. Well, I'm assuming maybe with the. What she was. It has to do with Ren having so many different abilities.

[Reggie]

Also, was there any sort of. Maybe if there was, I just missed it. But was there any sort of talk about these traitor people that her parents were.

[Mikayla]

No.

[Reggie]

In the book at all? No, because to me, I was like, it would have been cool if we even heard like, one sentence in the book where someone was like, the Tin Block Traders. The Tin Block trader. Because I was trying to figure, like, there was a lot that I predicted in this book. But the one thing that I. I knew that, like, there was something special about Ren. But I was trying to figure out what it was besides the fact that, like, she had powers. Because I'm like, she's not going to be a lost princess or something.

[Mikayla]

Don't watch it happen.

[Reggie]

But you know what I mean? But it was just like there wasn't any sort of inkling about her parents being any sort of like. I don't know. I wish I would have. I don't know. Does that make sense?

[Mikayla]

Well, it's really interesting that he never mentioned her parents. Did. Okay. Did he claim he never knew who they were or like. No, no. He explained to her why he took her in. Like he talked to her about her parents. Okay. If I'm remembering correctly, I think this Ren breaks the record for having the most amount of names.

[Reggie]

Wren, Daisy, Broken, Dove, Stella, Dove. The list goes on.

[Mikayla]

Darlington. Guys, I could not with her last name. I don't know what it was.

[Reggie]

Darlington.

[Mikayla]

I just.

[Reggie]

Okay, this is actually hilarious. So I was reading this this weekend while I was like on a little family trip and at one point my brother in law picks up my book. He's like, is this book good? And I'm like, you know, just kind of like I told him, I was like, it's kind of like a T. I said it's a temu version of Divergent. And he like was looking at the back of the book because the back of the book literally just says like my name is Ren Darlington or something. And he was like, yeah. He said something about with her last name being Darlington. He said something funny. Like I can already tell it's really, like really something.

[Mikayla]

And cross reading. Yeah, I just thought that was cross. I. Yeah, I. The name, the Darlington. I couldn't. And also the overuse of all the nicknames. Cowgirl, sweetling.

[Reggie]

Yes.

[Mikayla]

I'm just not a person that loves nicknames being reused over and over. And now I feel like I'm just being a hater. But no, you know, it was a fun read. It's. It wasn't a perfect one. It's a great bingeable dystopian book for when you need a palate cleanser book that. But you're in the mood for fantasy. Yeah. That's the perfect way I would describe this. Nothing super complex, plot holes, things that bug you.

[Reggie]

You know, it's just made me want more dystopian books.

[Mikayla]

It makes me want to go back and read the old good ones. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Yeah. Because, well. And also we don't need. No never mind. I'm not gonna say that yet.

[Mikayla]

It's kind of nice having it be adult though.

[Reggie]

Yes.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. There's gotta be adult dystopian books that came out during the dystopian age.

[Reggie]

There has to be, yes, send us some wrecks.

[Mikayla]

But honestly, I think this is a precursor to the fact that dystopians on its. It's. It's making a comeback.

[Reggie]

Oh, I hope it's for sure. I love it. I do, too. And it just feels, like, refreshing because, like, I know there's a lot of similar elements to, like, just, like, a. Like a fantasy book and then a dystopian book, but there's something about dystopian to me that, like, you know, you read a lot of fantasy, and it kind of just like, blends together. And I know that there were elements to this book that I was like, okay, I feel like I've read this before, but I don't know what it is about the setting of a dystopian book that just feels so nice and refreshing.

[Mikayla]

Well, I feel like it's just. Because in a dystopian world, it's just like. It's just futuristic, and so, like, you really don't have to, like, study a map about this whole new world. It's just, like, futuristic. You kind of have a gist of what it looks like. You don't.

[Reggie]

I don't know. Yeah. And it's kind of cool to question, like, oh, how did they get from, like, where we're at now to, like, you know.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. And when you think about the really iconic dystopian books, there's no magic. Obviously, there's some magic in this one. You think Hunger Games, there's no magic. Really Divergent. There's not really any magic. The host, I think the host is considered dystopian. Did you guys ever read that by Stephanie Meyer? No. No. There's a little bit of magic. Well, because they're like, is that magic? It could just be, like, sci fi.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Anyways, this kind of, I think, was right in the middle. There's a little bit of Fantas with the magic and the mind control and all that jazz. I really think it's on its way back.

[Reggie]

I would love nothing more.

[Mikayla]

I'm curious. Let's go into our fan cast. Right.

[Reggie]

Oh, I had one question I wanted to ask really quick. Were there any. Were you guys surprised by any of the plot twists?

[Mikayla]

Probably just, like, Kane being alive surprised me. Guys.

[Reggie]

I don't know why I, like, was not surprised at all. Well, I'm not trying to be like, I guessed it, but, like, I just remember, like, he died, and I got really sad because I was like, oh, I loved him so much. But then I was like. Immediately I was like, Watch him come back. He's gonna be coming back. I don't know why. Like, I was, like, so unfazed.

[Mikayla]

I thought maybe he wouldn't because of just kind of how brutal it was in general. Well, Tyler died in that same bombing thing. Yeah. So I just assumed they were dead. Yeah.

[Reggie]

There was a second, though. Like, when before she says, it's Kane. For a second, I was like, is her uncle.

[Mikayla]

Yeah, that's what I was. That's what I thought. I was like, maybe.

[Reggie]

Because, like, my first thought was her uncle, and then I was like, no, it can't be him. She literally watched him die.

[Mikayla]

You want to know what I would love eventually? Well, I actually don't. I don't even know if I care that much. Imagine how good a novella would be from his perspective.

[Reggie]

Oh, I would love that.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

I really like him.

[Mikayla]

I. I like him, too, but I'm just so. I also have just more questions about the uprising and the fact that, like, why was it so necessary for Ren to, like, make it into Silverly if there was Kane? Well, because I think Kane's only purpose was to get a plane.

[Reggie]

Yeah, because she says, but what else was her purpose?

[Mikayla]

Give them information. Now they just had multiple operatives. Yeah. Yeah.

[Reggie]

I thought of her getting into the program and then into Silver Elite was kind of like, hmm.

[Mikayla]

But I don't know. I guess I also am just confused with, like, her decision to, like, want to trust the uprising in general. Because the amount of times where she's like, they just don't care. They just don't care. And I'm like, yeah. When she's like, are you going to come get me? I'm like, girl, no, They've never shown you that they're gonna come get you or that, you know, only when she's of use to them. Yeah, that's it. See? And that's why I just got so frustrated with Rin. She's gonna start her own uprising. Honestly, I could see the next book just being that instead of having two enemy. One enemy, there's gonna be two. Because she realizes the uprising isn't as great as she thinks it is. Yeah, they're both evil. And then her and Cross are gonna create their own new form, their own new new army, which. One other thing I wanted to talk about. I put this in Fable, and maybe it was only me that felt this way, but when Xavier decided to go with her into the black. I want to say Blackwells. It's not Blackwells.

[Reggie]

I can't remember what.

[Mikayla]

Anyways, black Land. Blacklands. Yes, Blacklands. When he decided to go with her, maybe it was just me. I was like, why are you going with her? This makes no sense. Are you going for loyalty to Cross? Because why are you so willing to go with an uprising and be with modified people when you are told from a young age to hate modified people? Well, I guess I was just also confused about their relationship in general. Like, we didn't really see. Yeah. So why is he.

[Reggie]

Well, and also, like, Xavier doesn't know that Cross is.

[Mikayla]

He told him. He told him. Cross told him.

[Reggie]

Oh, yes.

[Mikayla]

Yes, he did.

[Reggie]

But for a second, I was like, because. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. I guess I just would have liked to see their dynamic. So you can understand why you went. Because I'm like, okay, yeah, you're just following orders. But I feel like that's a pretty tall order because then you're also going again. I don't know. But then, you know, we did get a little bit more of their relationship and interactions while they were in the Blacklands. Yeah. So I'll give it to Dani there. And honestly, the thing is, is I feel like we've sat and talked about a million things that we didn't love, but the reason why I'm giving it three stars, three and a half stars is because it was just fun. Yeah, it was fun. It felt fresh. It's not perfect. And I just had a good time. I reserve, you know, four stars, four and a half, five for things that I really, really love. Four has to be an amazing book. That is so great. Five stars is its perfection. So I feel like I read a lot of books. Three, three and a half stars. Because they're fun and I enjoyed them, but they're just things that bugged me. I couldn't get past plot holes, you know, and so I feel like it's also easier to talk about things that you don't like, which is unfortunate. And. Yeah. But overall, the vibes were fun. I wonder if she just kind of had to put Xavier in to make it more interesting. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Especially before the things end with him.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. But also, why did he need to go? She could have done it herself. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, more interesting.

[Reggie]

Yeah, I. I really think that. I see.

[Mikayla]

So it's not just her. Yeah, I get what you.

[Reggie]

Yeah. I think Cross was just, like, concerned for her. He. He felt better knowing someone was, like, taking care of her and watching out for her.

[Mikayla]

I also hope in the next book we get more of Roe. He's a wild card. Yeah. He was a fun character, I think. Psychopath unhinged. Yeah. Yeah. I have one other question for you guys, and then we can go into fan cast if there's nothing else we want to talk about. Were you guys surprised when Lydia betrayed her?

[Reggie]

No.

[Mikayla]

Oh, my gosh. We also have to cake. There's nothing. I guess it kind of was. I honestly, like, I was and I wasn't because they're trained from so little to hate the modified. But a piece of me was like, oh, this is going to be okay. And then she betrayed her. I have never been so mad at a character as when we find out that Ren decides to heal her burns so that she can profess her love to cross and prove that she trusts him. I was like, are you freaking kidding me? You are risking your life just to prove a point. Just, like, literally, just literally.

[Reggie]

She could have just gone up to him and been like, hey, just so you know, the reason I have these burns here is because I have a blood mark.

[Mikayla]

And then could have.

[Reggie]

He would have believed her.

[Mikayla]

I.

[Reggie]

And that's. She would have been like, that's why I freaked out when he said he could remove my words.

[Mikayla]

Like, sorry, I just was so mad.

[Reggie]

No, I was so stupid about that, too. But I'm like, I understand. Like, it's part of the plot. Like, had she not done that? But still, I was shaking my head, like, screaming at the book. I'm like, you are so dumb.

[Mikayla]

I was just like, Michaela was just coasting. I was like, okay, I guess. Whatever floats your boat. I was, oh. I feel like I just didn't have very many, like, big emotions reading this book, if that makes sense. I was just like, okay, all right. Okay, okay.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

But I knew that as soon as she did, I was like, that's how she's gonna get caught. Seriously. I was like, I can't. Like, what are you gonna do?

[Reggie]

Are you gonna burn yourself again? You're just gonna, like, hope. I don't know. I don't know.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. I was hoping that. I was hoping she would do it at least a little bit longer.

[Reggie]

Like, yeah, somehow keep the secret a.

[Mikayla]

Little bit longer, and then somehow it explode. Almost. Not intentionally. Yeah. I don't know.

[Reggie]

But to answer your question, Kennedy, I wasn't really surprised because she just felt so, like, timid, and she had that blabber mouth that I was like. Even though she does seem very loyal to her, I think she was just, like, a scaredy cat, and she was, like, worried for her.

[Mikayla]

Mm.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Gosh, what a wild ride.

[Reggie]

It was wild.

[Mikayla]

Hmm. Okay, I. I just have to say this one real quick for Kane. I just pictured Miles Teller. Stop. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Literally. Okay.

[Mikayla]

Yeah, this is.

[Reggie]

This is a TikTok we need to make.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

I was sitting there, like, trying to think of a fan cast, you guys, and I put this as my Goodreads update. But, like, I could not help but picture the Divergent cast. And, I mean, I guess I know that. How do you say her name? She's not. She doesn't fit the description of Ren. So I didn't fully, like, picture her, but I was like, okay, cross is definitely 4, like, 100 bajillion million percent. Like, I couldn't think of anyone else because also, Theo James. I'm just like. That is who he is.

[Mikayla]

Like, you Who? Who?

[Reggie]

Like, no, nobody.

[Mikayla]

Or is the blueprint. He's the blueprint. He is the blueprint.

[Reggie]

And then also, yeah, Miles Teller.

[Mikayla]

Well, I also. Sorry, go back to Theo James. I couldn't picture him because of how, like, lovey dovey Cross was. Hmm.

[Reggie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Mikayla]

I don't know. But I also looked up fan art early into the book, so. Okay, I gotta tell you guys. What? Each person is on the. My cast.

[Reggie]

Because I saw it.

[Mikayla]

Sorry, I didn't mean to. Yeah, wait.

[Reggie]

It makes me laugh.

[Mikayla]

We're starting with Kane because you said Miles Teller, and I think that's perfect. On my cast, it says Daiquiri Montgomery. Who's he? Oh, in Stranger Things. Yep.

[Reggie]

I mean, I can see it.

[Mikayla]

Who do you want to do next? Actually, you guys, this one's hilarious. I feel like I could see him as Ron or, like, as.

[Reggie]

He's just brother.

[Mikayla]

Guys, I think this is hilarious. And I don't think it's Tristan. I don't know who it is on my cast. Gavin Cast. What's his name?

[Reggie]

What's the last summer I turn pretty?

[Mikayla]

Yeah, Summer I turn pretty. Okay. Absolutely not. Huh? No, sorry. I actually feel like I could see it because of his. I feel like his acting. He would be able to, like, kind of, like, portray, like, a flip, like a switch. Yeah, maybe like a little.

[Reggie]

And maybe his age, but, like, I don't know. I just picture him being a lot more, like, bulky. I don't know.

[Mikayla]

I. I agree.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

I just kind of pictured blurbs, to be honest. I. The only. I was the same. I could only picture the Divergent cast.

[Reggie]

Yeah. Well, I will say the lady who. Okay, so there's the girl the one that she makes her shoot herself. What was her name? Her.

[Mikayla]

Camille. I don't know.

[Reggie]

Nope, that. Oh, okay.

[Mikayla]

Jade.

[Reggie]

And then the other girl that's helping her, Natalia. What's her name? The one that flies get. Picks her up with the pilot.

[Mikayla]

Her.

[Reggie]

I pictured maybe you guys. Yeah. Maybe you won't think that this is funny, but I was picturing the girl, the character of President Coin from the Hunger Games. Oh, maybe you guys don't think that's funny, but it was. She was just giving, like.

[Mikayla]

Oh, I thought she was really young.

[Reggie]

Maybe she is, but in my mind.

[Mikayla]

I think both of them are young. Yeah.

[Reggie]

Yeah. In my mind, it was her.

[Mikayla]

I was picturing, like, 30s. I think she said late 20s. When she met her. Adrian. I don't know, the one that she met up with. Who was that? Adrian. Adrian.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

She was young. She just. Yeah, okay.

[Reggie]

Yes, I know she was.

[Mikayla]

I thought you guys were. I was like. Sorry.

[Reggie]

She was just kind of like. There was something about the two of them that I'm like, is this giving, like, President Coin energy? I don't know. But, yeah. Kane. Miles Teller, but not Miles Teller when he was in Divergent. Miles Teller when he's in, like, Mission Impossible. Kind of b.

[Mikayla]

Diaper miles.

[Reggie]

You think?

[Mikayla]

No, I just think. Well, he's just, like, a unserious character.

[Reggie]

But I just feel like he, like, had a big, like. Miles Teller's had, like, a glow up since then. Not that he wasn't cute. And Divergent. He was cute.

[Mikayla]

Are you. I'm picturing him, like, Top Gun.

[Reggie]

Oh, yeah. Sorry, what?

[Mikayla]

Did I say Mission Impossible?

[Reggie]

I did.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. That's okay.

[Reggie]

But you know what I mean, like, his. In his. More like glow up era.

[Mikayla]

Did you guys watch the. The Gorge? No. No? Is it good? No.

[Reggie]

Okay.

[Mikayla]

It's really just funny. Miles Teller. Yeah.

[Reggie]

I love him.

[Mikayla]

That's. That's also the reason why, because in the gorge, they're like these tactical people that are watching a gorge of fantasy. I don't know creatures, you know, and, you know, they fly over zipline.

[Reggie]

I also pictured Fatima as Zoe Kravitz.

[Mikayla]

Oh, Divergent.

[Reggie]

Yeah.

[Mikayla]

Ah. Do we have anybody else for cross other than Theo? James? No.

[Reggie]

No. But my cast. Why is this hilarious?

[Mikayla]

Josh Houston. Oh, boy. Who was the second one? Let's see what people are saying for the second one.

[Reggie]

Oh, I didn't. Look at that.

[Mikayla]

I don't know anybody else. I don't. I literally. Henry Cavill. What do you know? Surprise. Surpr. Oh, look at this one. Daryl and Flynn. What? For sure. Guys, stop. Okay. But the thing is, all of those characters are way too old. Yeah. Like Theo James too old. Shailene Woodley Woolly too old. Here's who they have on on for Ren. Camila Mendez. Oh, that one's not the mc.

[Reggie]

And you know, it's like the CW energy.

[Mikayla]

That's what I was gonna say. This could be a CW show. It was giving R after the first two seasons, you know, teen drama, like.

[Reggie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that. Why did someone say Penelope Cruz? She's literally like, gotta be a 50 years old.

[Mikayla]

Yeah, I'm. I don't know. I feel. I fear some people really struggle not picturing older characters sometimes. It's hard though, because I think most of the actors that are a list that you think of most of the time, they are typically older.

[Reggie]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mikayla]

Yeah. Up and coming actors and actresses.

[Reggie]

Well. And I feel like I don't watch enough TV now to know. Yeah, like the upcoming people are so. Yeah, I wish I. I really did try to, like, think of some sort of pancast, but I should only picture the diversion people. And I feel like people might roast us for or like, come after us for being like, you gotta like, separate. Like it's not the same.

[Mikayla]

But my mind made that connection. And you know what? Once you make. Once your mind makes that connection, it's really hard to disconnect from that. And I wasn't about to try really hard to disconnect from Theo James and Shailene Woolley.

[Reggie]

Yeah, I mean, I was fine picturing Theo James the entire time. I didn't have a problem with it.

[Mikayla]

I also this. It reminded me a lot of Shatter me.

[Reggie]

Oh, I forgot that book exists.

[Mikayla]

So if you, like shatter me probably like this book. Yeah, you probably would. So. Okay, guys. I hope you guys enjoyed our little. I could not remember what the book was called. I hope you guys enjoyed our discussion about Quick. Not Quicksilver, Silvery Lee. I struggling too many books with Silver. The title Silverly. I really hope you guys enjoyed it. And maybe you guys have similar feelings to us. It was just kind of like fun, but not anything super like great. I don't know. But now we're going to announce our July book club book. Drum roll please.

[Reggie]

Shield of Sparrows by Devnee Perry.

[Mikayla]

Yeah, yeah. You know, there was a discussion last month between maybe I'm making this up. This book. Yeah. Silver Elite and Night and Moth and I fear we made a mistake. We did make a mistake. But it's okay. It was fine. I mean, we read it. It was, it was fun to talk to you guys about it. I loved the discussion.

[Reggie]

I wanted to be in the know.

[Mikayla]

So many people motivated me to read it. Yes. Not complaining. And also, like, not every book club book or like not every book you're going to read is like a five star read. Yeah. So three is still great. Yeah. Sorry, broke your five star. Your five and four star.

[Reggie]

No, honestly, it felt kind of refreshing. I won't lie. I've been rating books really high recently.

[Mikayla]

So a little mid.

[Reggie]

I needed something a little more like mid, like, and really enjoyable.

[Mikayla]

Yeah.

[Reggie]

But still like, yeah, like it felt kind of refreshing to look at a book for.

[Mikayla]

I love it. Anyways, we will see you guys next month for Shield of Sparrows. And we'll see you guys next week for the next podcast episode. Bye. Foreign.

[Reggie]

Welcome to Sky Talkers. I'm your host, Charlotte.

[Kennedy]

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[Reggie]

Our goal from the beginning of Skytalkers was to create a space where we could talk about Star wars in the way we wanted to. Caitlin and I are lifelong best friends who love Star wars and have been podcasting about the galaxy far, far away since 2017.

[Kennedy]

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[Reggie]

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