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Kennedy
Foreign. Hi, guys. Welcome back to I'll read what she's reading. I'm Kennedy.
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Mikayla
I'm Mikayla.
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Reggie
And I'm Reggie.
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Kennedy
And today we are here to discuss our book club book for April, which was the Conditions of Will by Jessa Hastings. And if you guys are new here, we're obsessed with her. We love Jessa. We actually had the honor of interviewing her for an episode a few episodes back. So if you haven't had a chance to go listen to it, I would highly recommend it. Even if you haven't read her books, I feel like it's such a good episode to get into her brain, and I feel like if you listen to it, you'll want to read some of her books.
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Reggie
Definitely.
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Kennedy
She's.
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Mikayla
She's a genius.
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Kennedy
Yeah, she's a genius.
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Reggie
She has a very brilliant mind.
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Kennedy
And I can't wait to chat with these two about the book, hear their thoughts, and if you're new here, kind of what we do for our outline of our book club episodes, we share our star ratings, kind of overall thoughts, faves, least faves, and then we share fancasts. And stay tuned to the end because we'll tell you guys what our book club book for May is. I think you guys are going to be excited. It's pretty popular. It's already out, but we figured it'd be the perfect May book.
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Mikayla
I'm excited to read it.
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Kennedy
Me too. Me too. By one of our other fave authors. Bet you can't guess what it is.
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Mikayla
Cast your votes now.
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Kennedy
Yeah, seriously, comment. Let's get into conditions of will.
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Mikayla
Okay.
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Reggie
Yay.
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Kennedy
Who wants to share their thoughts like they're reading first?
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Reggie
I'll go first.
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Kennedy
Okay.
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Mikayla
Okay.
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Reggie
I'm gonna give it five stars. And I feel like, you know, I knew I wasn't going to be disappointed by this book because of who Jessa is and what I don't know. There's just something especially really cool about the fact that we got to get a glimpse into this book. When we interviewed her before starting this book, I think I was just on this high, and I finished it so quickly, I got. I kind of binged it. And I don't get to do that a lot with books, but this one just really sucked me in. It was a very quick read where I was never bored. I felt like there was so much going on. The drama was drama ing. I don't know how to word that, but there's just, I think, what I love the most about this book, and it's like this a lot with, like, Magnolia Parks, too. But you really get into the character's brain. And obviously, if you're listening to this, you've read this book, so you know what I'm talking about. There's just a way that she writes that makes you feel like you are the character itself or that you are having a actual conversation with these characters. It doesn't feel service level at all. It's very deep. The way she writes her sentences feel like a conversation with somebody. And so that's, like, probably one of my favorite things about this book and why I rated it so high is because I felt like I was a fly on the wall. I feel like there's some books where you can kind of feel like, well, maybe not even a fly on the wall. I really just felt like I was there, and I saved, took pictures and highlighted so many things in this book. I also just felt like it was a breath of fresh air because Jessa's books don't fall under, like, a certain category. Like, I got exactly what I thought I would be getting from Jessa, but then some. And I just felt like there were a lot of really beautiful things in it, things I learned, and I. The drama was just. I was eating it up. So. Yeah.
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Kennedy
Michaela.
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Mikayla
Oh, I knew you guys were gonna rate it super high. I knew it. I knew it. And I wish I had the same reaction. I didn't love it.
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Kennedy
It's okay. Would you read it?
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Mikayla
I don't know.
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Kennedy
I can't.
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Mikayla
I can't decide. I wish I had a visceral reaction to it, and for some reason, it just didn't. Didn't do it for me. Maybe it was the time in my life that I read it, and I don't know. I. I actually haven't quite decided how I'm going to read it. I literally finished it yesterday, so I don't know. I don't know. I. I. Don't get me wrong. I, like, I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Mikayla
And I wanted to really like it because I knew you guys loved it. I know you rated it 5 stars. I know you did. I. I don't know. I. I just knew you guys did. You also cried at the end, so I'm like, she rated it really highly, so I don't know. I haven't decided.
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Reggie
So that's okay.
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Kennedy
That's okay. Yeah, it'll be fun. Because I. I feel like 98 of the time, we all have very similar tastes and agree on books, so I'm Excited to. To discuss and just, like, hear your thoughts about it, what you liked, what you didn't like. Because it'll be different. And hopefully listeners will find that interesting too, because it's very rare that we all, like, don't agree. You know what I mean?
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Kennedy
And that's not a bad thing.
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Mikayla
It kind of sucks, though. I hate, like, being in the minority because I think everyone raved about it and I'm like, is something wrong with me?
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Kennedy
No.
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Reggie
No.
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Kennedy
So, but I mean, also think about, like, your reading experience with it. I don't. I don't think if you were able to sit down and read it, your rating probably wouldn't change that much. But, like, you had a stream of three days where you didn't really get to read, and she was reading sporadically in lines at Disneyland under dark lighting with Reggie's flashlight. You know what I mean? Like, reading experience plays a huge part in that. I read it in two days because I didn't have anything going on. So I think your feelings are 100% valid. And it does suck to be in the minority. I've been there. Yeah. Also, it's. It's okay. It's okay. Mikayla is right. I rated it 5 stars. I think that, well, just as writing just, like, scratches an itch in my brain, it just feels so good and I don't know how to describe it other than that. Is this my favorite book by her? No, Honestly, I think if I could go back, I think I rated the first Daisy Hates four stars. I would change my rating to five. I would put this under the entire Magnolia park series.
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Mikayla
Like, I don't think it's better than.
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Kennedy
That, than the Magnolia park series. There's just something about that series on those characters that have a special place in my heart. But I really enjoyed this book. I found it to be really bingeable. I loved the family drama. At one point, I was reading this book, and I could picture every single one of the family members to be someone in my family, which isn't a great thing for me. But I think just having not a toxic family, but having experience with that kind of helped me relate to Georgia a little bit. And also I could see why Georgia did a few things. Like, I know a lot of people were really upset that Oliver didn't apologize and we really didn't get an apology at the end and that she forgave him so fast. But I could relate to that. There were just a lot of things that I could relate to. And once again, just the way she writes sucks me in. And Reggie kind of touched on this. It's almost like she writes in a stream of consciousness. She writes in run on sentences. And there was this part of the book where I'm trying to remember what happened, but Georgia was outside on the steps sitting by herself. And then Sam comes out, and there's this entire paragraph that's a full on run sentence, run on sentence. And it's literally just Georgia's stream of consciousness of how she thinks about Sam. And I just can't believe that when I read Jessa's writing, it feels like she's been in my brain. And she describes things that I felt so perfectly, which is why I feel like I loved this book so much and why I love Jess's writing so much. But once again, I don't think it's better than the Magnolia park series. Not to compare. It's hard not to compare. But obviously I'm still giving it five stars because I ate it up.
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Reggie
Yeah. And anyone listening who, if this is your first Jessa book, if you haven't already started Magnolia Parks, I think. I mean, everyone's different. But I agree with the fact that Magnolia Parks is better than Conditions of Will. But I think it's really a big thing to give this book 5 stars as a standalone. Like, she's not continuing anything on with these characters and anything like that. And, yeah, I'm just impressed by her. But, yeah, I think that Magnolia Parks is better, but doesn't take away from how great Conditions of Will was, in my opinion. I definitely recommend reading Magnolia Parks if you have not already, if you haven't already been influenced to read it by us yet. So should we get into our favorites first?
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Kennedy
Maybe.
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Kennedy
Okay, I'll go first. I think my favorite part of the entire book was Tenny. I love him. I thought it was so cool just to see how she comes to this house and she doesn't have this relationship with this brother.
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Mikayla
They're estranged.
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Kennedy
She doesn't really like him. But then to watch Tenny's character development and him almost kind of take on this not father figure role, but kind of this more mainstream big brother role, and just the things he would say. I just couldn't believe I watched Mikayla read this. But the part where they find the condom in the car and Tenny randomly is just like, yeah, I found a girl at a bar yesterday. Like, why would he say that?
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Mikayla
It just.
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Kennedy
I don't know. I loved Tenny's and Georgia's relationship, and just to see that grow and develop and how sweet it was. I think that was my favorite part, I would say, other than, like, something obvious like Sam. I love Sam.
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Kennedy
But I would dare say Tenny might be my favorite character. I also thought it was cool how she did use the micro expressions and how Georgia could read emotions. I think that's so cool, and I kind of want to study that. But also, it'd be extremely exhausting not knowing what everybody's thinking. 24. 7 just was different than. I've never seen anybody use that in a book. I. At one point, I pulled up the diagram, because with all those micro expressions.
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Kennedy
So, yeah, that's what I would say are my kind of favorites without giving obvious stuff.
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Reggie
Yeah.
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Mikayla
Love it.
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Reggie
Do you want me to go? Sure. I was gonna say the expression thing as one of my favorite things, because it's so funny. Like, I would be reading the book, and I vlogged my reading of this, and I didn't include all this, but, like, there were times that while I was reading, I would be pulling the faces that she would be describing because it would. I don't know. I was so fascinated by it. And in our interview with Jessa, she talks about how, like, she doesn't read a lot, but when she reads, she reads, like, science books. This girl is smart. Like, she wants to learn about everything. And so I just know that she studied this so hard, and I was just really impressed with the research that she did for Georgia's character and the things that she does. So I thought that that was really interesting because it's made me, since reading the book, start to, like, analyze people a little bit, which I don't know if I love that, but I just thought it brought, like, a whole. If there wasn't that element to the story, obviously, things would have been a little bit different. But I think it's part of what made this book really special and just so much more interesting to read. I love. I can see why people were infuriated with her the entire book. Like, they hated that. Like, I would go crazy if there was someone really close to me in my life that could analyze every little thing I was doing and knew what I was kind of thinking. Kind of like a mind reader, you know? But I thought it was a really cool element to the story. I also really love Tenney. I am someone who has. I have two younger brothers, and I'm not, like, super, super tight with my brothers, but, like, it was really cool to see just how, like, sibling relationships can evolve, and it made me want to, like, call my brothers and, like, be like, I love you so much. Like, I just felt this weird. I don't know. There was just something about it that just made me feel, like, really grateful for the. My family members, like, especially my siblings. And. Yeah, I. I really agree. I'm trying to think of something different than from what you said, because, yeah, Sam, Penny, I love him. I also will say that the. I know sometimes people think that Jessa's metaphors get a little exhausting, but honestly, I loved every single one of them, because every single one that she put, I would sit there and I'd have to pause and be like, how did you come up with that? And I just. I really just. Overall, Jessa's writing, I guess, favorite moment, specifically in the book. Oh, I'll share this one. This is not the one I was gonna say, but I loved the whole interaction when Georgia and Sam first meet, that she was just so confident. She was just so confident. And I thought that was so hilarious. And I feel like the way that Jessa wrote that and described everything. I mean, I'm not someone who would be that forward like Georgia was, but I can. I pictured it so vividly and so perfectly. I felt every ounce of awkwardness. And I just knew when I read that scene, I was like, we're in for a good time.
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Kennedy
Well, she just writes, once again, streams of consciousness so well.
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Reggie
It just.
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Kennedy
Yeah. Yeah.
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Mikayla
Oh, it's me. I. Same. I don't know. Like, I liked the facial. I wish. Honestly, I wish we got more into, like, her job in her degree, if that makes sense. That was the most interesting part of the book to me. I don't know. And don't get me wrong, just as writing. Just as writing was not the issue with me, I think it was actually the story and, like, the plot of it, but I. Yeah, I don't like same. I don't know. I'm trying to think of something, like, different, but my favorite part was probably the facial recognition of things. And then Tenny Timmy reminded me of my older brother, so. And I know he'll never listen to this episode, but he is someone who is very involved in my life, and. How do I say this? He is 13 years older than me, and obviously, when I was younger, we didn't really have a relationship, but the older I've gotten, he's, like, one of my best friends, and he's always calling me, and he's just, like, the best ever. So, like, when they started to have a relationship, and it was as, like, Tenny is like my older brother. It was really cute. My brother is overprotective. He loves to know what I'm doing if I don't invite him to things. We went to Disneyland and he was mad I didn't invite him to come. And so, yeah, it just reminded me of my older brother. And I have three brothers. But I just loved, like, the brotherly aspect that Tenney gave because it reminded me of my brothers, so.
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Kennedy
And.
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Mikayla
Yeah, and the. I liked, as bad as it was, I really liked the small town environment. I think it added to the plot of the story.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
But, yeah. And obviously Jess's writing. I love the way Jessa writes. And there is nothing wrong with Jess's writing at all. I think the story just didn't resonate with me as much as maybe some of. I don't know. Not that Magnolia Parks resonates with me at all, but something about this storyline just. I don't know.
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Kennedy
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Mikayla
It will be my. In my dislikes of why I think I didn't like it as much. Okay. Yeah.
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Reggie
So there were a lot of really great quotes, and I'll share one in a second that I loved. I also just felt like Jesse writes the human experience so well. And while, I don't know, there's just something that, like, my heart was hurting for so many people in this book. And it just goes to show that everyone has different opinions, has different beliefs, but at the end of the day, I think she really just, like, showed this very well in her book. At the end of the day, you just gotta love people. And I love that even though Georgia, she doesn't really love her sister and she wasn't, like, very kind to her, I just felt like the people in the book that she truly did love, like, I don't know, to me, it just. I finished this book thinking, like, I could love people in my life even harder. I think she understands that people see things differently than she does, but she's able to put herself in other people's shoes, and you could see that from all the characters. I don't know. I thought it was very beautifully done.
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Mikayla
I agree.
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Reggie
One quote I really loved and I loved so many. Like, this is one that was just so simple. But I was, like, screaming when she's like, are you up for a bit of a drive? And he's like, with you, I'll take the long road. I was screaming at that. I just thought that was so cute. But I also love how she explained her love for Sam. She's like, he's the heavy quilt you pull over your head when it's too cold and too early to wake up. He's the song no parent ever loved me enough to sing. He's the way water runs and bubbles over stones in a stream. He's a quiet mind. I just am like, how does Jessa come up with this? I don't know, but I just think it's so beautiful and brilliant and I want her to write the story of my life for me. So I want her. Not that my life's all that interesting.
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Kennedy
But I want her to write a love note that I can give to my husband. And he'd be like, wow, that was great.
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Mikayla
You can take all the credit.
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Kennedy
I just. The thing is, is it's weird because my love language is not words of affirmation. And so I'm not good at expressing myself verbally, which you would think. Her writing wouldn't work well for me because I don't necessarily care about words of affirmation, but it just does because she'll write words on a page and I'm like, yeah, I've felt that, but I've never been able to properly express that or put it into words. But you just did.
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Reggie
Yeah, she's got a talent for that.
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Mikayla
Oh, absolutely.
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Reggie
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Kennedy
Should we get into some of our lease faves?
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Reggie
Yeah, okay.
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Kennedy
I mean, I can go first. I don't have A lot of things that I didn't like, I'll just kind of share one that I feel like a lot of people, and I kind of already did at the beginning of this episode. But I think a lot of people specifically had a hard time in the epilogue because we never got this apology from him. And I can understand why people didn't like that. But I think about, like, my sister, or maybe you guys feel the same about your siblings. There's just something about sibling relationships where, like, you can say things to your siblings that you can never say to your friends, and your siblings will just automatically forgive you. Does that make sense? Like, me and my sister have gotten into really big fights before, and then literally an hour later, we call each other like nothing happened. And Jessica kind of explains earlier in the book that sibling. Sibling relationships are like rubber bands. They just snap back really quick. And I think whether or not she meant to foreshadow that, I'm not sure. But to me, it just, like, made sense. I didn't. I didn't feel like I needed an apology from Oliver because, let's be honest, they both were in the wrong. And Georgia never really apologized to him, so I just didn't think there needed to be an apology between both of them. The fact that he showed up for her, I think, was enough. So I think that's something that a lot of people didn't like. But I can't pinpoint something that I was like. I hated this.
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Reggie
I mean, I didn't like Marianne.
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Mikayla
That's a given.
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Reggie
That's a given. But I just could not. And I know that, like, she referenced this so much. Like, Marianne is a. Did she say more than just a narcissist?
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Kennedy
She was a narcissist with something. Tendencies, I think.
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Reggie
Yeah. Like, compulsive. I can't remember exactly what she said. And it was really interesting, though, to hear how, like, I mean, Georgia was very aware of that, and she knew that, and she would give examples as to why Marianne fell in that category or whatever. So it made, like, some of her actions make a lot more sense. But even then, I am just. And it's. And maybe it's because she's, like, the older sister, and, like, I'm the older sister in my family, and I just cannot. I mean, but the thing is, I'm not. I'm not like her. And, you know, I'm glad that I'm not. I'm not a perfect person. But it was driving me crazy that she couldn't have any sort of. I Don't know. That drove me crazy. But that's just who her character was. Like, I can't. It wasn't, like, reason I disliked the book by any means, but anytime she started talking, I was like, shut up. I was, like, bracing myself. I was, like, gripping the couch, gripping my book. I will say one thing, but maybe this is something Mihaila dislikes. So I'm gonna have you go first, and then I'll go, and I will say I want. Does that make sense? If you say something you dislike, then I have something to say about it.
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Mikayla
Okay. I agree with, like, Oliver. The Oliver thing. I. I wanted it, but I knew it wasn't necessary. Yeah, that makes sense. I. Yeah. And I. I really. I really was trying. I really was trying to, like, get over it and, like, have it work for me. The insta love. It was too insta love for me. And I know Jessa doesn't love. Like, she doesn't write things for tropes. It just didn't work for me. And don't get me wrong. I love San Penny. Penny. I love Georgia. I like their relationship a lot, but it just seems fast.
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Kennedy
Yeah. A bit unrealistic because it is over the course of what, like a week?
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Mikayla
Yeah.
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Kennedy
Ish.
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Mikayla
Yes.
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Kennedy
I do think partly it's not a trauma bond because they're, quote, well adjusted, but I do. It was kind of like a trauma bund bond, insta love type thing.
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Mikayla
But, like, he. He wasn't. It's her. I don't know. It's. It was very, like, love bomby.
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Reggie
That's what I was gonna talk about.
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Mikayla
Yeah, very, like, love bomby. Like, no. Like, you have to, like. I don't know.
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Reggie
That's.
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Mikayla
I. I think that was honestly my biggest issue. I love the relationship. They were very sweet, cute moments. But I was like, this has been four days, and I just couldn't get that out of my brain. I just couldn't. And then the last thing that seems so mundane is the land that was left for her. We get no answers about that.
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Kennedy
Well, I. You kind of do at the end because it's by. Crap. What is his name?
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Reggie
Alexis.
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Kennedy
I'm gonna call him Alexis. It's like. Cause Sam kind of mentions. He says, I think he left you the land so that you could have a relationship with Alexis.
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Mikayla
Yeah, but I just. We didn't. She didn't go visit it. What if there was, like, something there? I don't know. I was just wanting her to go visit it and maybe get, like, closure. I don't Know. I know there was an answer, but, like, not really. Yeah.
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Kennedy
You wanted, like, closure for her to be there.
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Reggie
I think her dad wanted her to figure it out.
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Mikayla
Y. Yeah.
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Reggie
That's kind of, like, which kind of sucks for her because it's like, okay, yeah, like, I figured it out now. What kind of a thing. It's too bad that he didn't leave any sort of, like, letter. It was just like, here's this will. Good luck.
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Kennedy
Yeah, you know, it would have been nice. Like, I can totally see what you mean. It's almost like maybe it would have been. I don't know. Yeah. He leaves some sort of letter with Alexis. So they visit the land, and Alexis gives her this letter from her dad so she can have a little bit more closure from her dad because he quite literally upended basically all of their lives.
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Mikayla
Well, that was the plot of the story, and I feel like it kind of fizzled.
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Reggie
I also think we need to remember that, like, his death was, like, a very sudden thing. It was a very out of the blue, like, not a. Yeah, but he had a will. Yes, but I do think that, like, he still died pretty young. I wonder if he. Like, there was a lot he was still wrestling with and trying to figure out. I mean, if you have a will. Yeah, it would be nice to leave, like, we're talking about, like, a letter, whatever. But I almost wonder if just, like, that was such a secret part of his life that I wonder if he, like, had other plans for things, but, like, the heart attack just took him too soon kind of a thing.
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Mikayla
Well, yeah, but when you write a will, there's so many things you have to do when you do that. Like, you can't just write a will. There's, like, legal things that you have to do. So, like. Like, situationally things like that. The only reason I know this is because my parents have a will. And, like, if any of us get arrested or, like, we're not in the will, like, we can't. Like, there's so many, like, situationally things that you have to, like, say, like, if this happens. Kind of like with Oliver.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Mikayla
So, like, he had to have had all of these plans for a will.
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Kennedy
We planned enough to give her land that was by Alexis, so he figured Georgia was smart enough to figure it out, so he could have left some sort of. It was something.
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Mikayla
It was sudden. Don't get me wrong. It was sudden. But, like, I don't think he was ever planning on saying anything if that's what was in his will.
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Kennedy
Yeah. I also do think that. Not that the dad was selfish, but I do think he was in a sense. Like, he loved his kids, but. And he cared about them, but I don't know if he necessarily even cared enough to obviously leave a letter, because he didn't. Yeah, I can totally see what you mean, though. I think it would have definitely added to maybe the emotional depth to have a little bit of closure from her dad by going to the land.
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Mikayla
Yeah. I feel like also, maybe my. My biggest problem is there was, like, almost no closure with anything.
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Reggie
Yeah, he. Yeah, there was a lot of. I think it was really infuriating to feel like the kids didn't really get that kind of. I don't know, like they got closure, but they didn't.
- [29:29]
Kennedy
But also, I, like, I loved it and hated it. Because think about it. Like, I felt like it was so realistic in a family that that's. That is that toxic there. You're never gonna have that sort of closure. Like, I think about my family, and even if something were to happen like this in my life and my family all got together, you have this four days where you're all together and you have this. These things that happen, you separate apart and you still don't have that closure because it's not that they weren't close enough to continue on that relationship. Does this make sense?
- [30:01]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [30:02]
Reggie
Not everything can be brought up with.
- [30:03]
Kennedy
It'S realistic in the sense of real life, because that's. You're not going to have everything. You're not going to have all the closure in a family like that.
- [30:09]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [30:10]
Kennedy
So I can see. I can see why it's really frustrating as a reader, but also, I think it's realistic.
- [30:15]
Mikayla
It is 100% realistic. Well, I'm meaning, like, also with, like, closure with Oliver. Closure with, like, the dad and, like, the mom. I guess. My question for you guys. Do you think the mom knew? I anticipated that she knew.
- [30:30]
Kennedy
Oh, yeah, I think so.
- [30:31]
Reggie
She tells. She asks. Doesn't she say, like, what is he like, yes.
- [30:35]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [30:36]
Mikayla
I think she figured it out at the very end. Like, I don't think she knew all along. I think maybe she was maybe in denial, but I think if she was replaying things with her husband and there being a man, I don't think she connected the dots until the very, very end. Not excusing her behavior from how she treated Oliver, but I don't think she connected things until she excused herself from the dinner.
- [31:06]
Kennedy
Okay.
- [31:07]
Reggie
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
- [31:08]
Mikayla
I think that's when she started figuring everything out. So I Don't think she knew. Like, and I'm not excusing the behavior that. Because that's terrible behavior. Like, never in my wildest dreams could I imagine treating someone that way. Yeah. But I don't think she figured it out until that moment.
- [31:27]
Reggie
Okay. No, no, no, no, no. I love that because that makes a lot more sense. I didn't really think about it that way. Because you don't think that I just. As a mother, I can't imagine knowing something like that and then treating.
- [31:43]
Mikayla
Yes.
- [31:43]
Reggie
My kid like that.
- [31:44]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [31:45]
Reggie
Knowing that. You know what I mean? Yeah, but maybe she did. But if she did, then that's something that, like, actually, I mean, that's a very difficult thing for her to come to find out for sure. Like, I can't. Like, she would unless if she knew all along. I mean, it's a different. It's. It's so hard. But I just changes the story. It changes. Yeah, it changes the story because. I don't know, I just feel like there were just. I think she knew at the end. Well, not all along. I think you making the point of her when she, like, left the dinner table, it just makes you wonder, like, how things like how she's gonna. Would be treating Oliver after.
- [32:28]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [32:29]
Reggie
You know what I mean? I don't know.
- [32:30]
Mikayla
Well, you. It makes you also wonder if Oliver would have had a different life had he, their father, been open to it.
- [32:42]
Kennedy
Well, Georgia even says that. I think in the book, she thinks.
- [32:45]
Reggie
To herself, like, how he was envious of you.
- [32:47]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [32:48]
Kennedy
How would Oliver's life been different? There were just so many messed up things that happened in this book with this family. I just. It was like thing after thing after thing, and I just could not. I just can't. It just is. It's just mindboggling to me how toxic this family truly was. And I just think, you know, Georgia is a. I mean, all of the kids. I don't even know. I don't even know. Well, they.
- [33:15]
Mikayla
They are the way they are because of the conditions that their family or slash, their parents have put them in.
- [33:24]
Reggie
Right.
- [33:25]
Mikayla
Like, I still think Georgia is a very, like, explosive person. And I'm not saying anything she exploded on was not warranted, but she is just like, all of their kids are very explosive because of the way that the parents treated them, raised them. And so I just think, yes, it's. It's a very. Just messy situation. And it's crazy how different everyone would be if their parents were just understanding and kind and like, loving. Loving.
- [34:03]
Kennedy
Literally just Loving.
- [34:04]
Mikayla
It's just. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, I can't. I can't fathom. And I feel very grateful that I have a family that. And I understand that there are lots of different families, but I feel like my family is the furthest thing from it. And so, like, maybe that's why it was harder for me to resonate. Because, Kennedy, you said you resonated with it a lot, and I feel very blessed that I don't resonate it with it as much, you know? So it's just wild.
- [34:34]
Kennedy
Gosh.
- [34:35]
Reggie
Yeah, I just. I felt for these characters. I was angry with these characters. It was a lot of emotions. But I want to circle back to the insta Love thing because I can see why it's not like a super fun thing to read. Like, insta Love. I totally get it. And even when everything started with them, I was thinking the same thing. I was like, whoa, this is fast. But I'm just gonna say, as somebody who kind of had an insta Love, I really resonated with it because there was like, I've just been like, that's just kind of how things were for my husband. And I, like, I literally took one look at him and I know this. It sounds wild, but, like, I haven't. There were so many specific moments between the two of them and things that they would say to each other that I was like, I know that feels like, not necessarily like that, just, oh, like, I love you so much type of thing. But it was more of like, them being self aware of the fact, like, this is, like, this feels weird. You know what I mean? And so I was just gonna say that, like, that's something I resonated with in this book. And it was kind of a surreal thing for me to read because, yeah, I was. That's what I was gonna say because I just know. I know some people, I think in the fable even said, like, this felt. This is major Insta love definitely was. And I don't think insta love's like, the funnest thing to read, but the more that I was reading it, I was able to relate to it. So then I liked it.
- [36:12]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [36:13]
Reggie
But that's just a personal thing for me that I.
- [36:15]
Mikayla
Well, I feel like insta love isn't bad. I feel like, oh, yeah, there is a lot of people that have, like, instant chemistry. I think it was just like, were moving together at the end of being, like, I'm not discrediting, like, insta Love. I just think, like, I don't know, I was just having a really hard time. I'm not saying you can't love someone really, really quickly, but it was just like, you know, you. You decide these big life choices after, like, nine days of knowing each other well.
- [36:47]
Reggie
And also, no, you know, you just.
- [36:49]
Kennedy
Have to, like, that's just not a trope that you enjoy. Like, it has nothing to do with the writing. It has nothing to do with the book itself. You just don't like Insula, and that's totally fine.
- [37:00]
Reggie
Yeah. And I. I think it goes to show that, like, this book was more about the family than it was about her and was just kind of that driving force to, like, help her feel a little more grounded. I also am thinking of a dislike now that I'm saying this.
- [37:20]
Kennedy
Wait, before you go. I don't want to move from the Insula really quick.
- [37:22]
Reggie
Oh, sorry.
- [37:23]
Kennedy
I also think part of the why there was insta love. It's funny because Jessa, when we interviewed her, said that they're two very well adjusted, very well adjusted characters. And I do agree with that because they were so self aware, but also they still had issues. Like, I think part of the reason why I was so insta love. And maybe this is me just projecting onto Georgia, but as someone. And I mentioned this so many times on the podcast, and I'm so sorry, you guys, but it's just my. It's just my reality as someone who has daddy issues to you, not that you latch on to male figures in your life, but you latch on to male figures really fast in your life, especially if they're good ones. And so I do feel like that played a part into George's instant connection with Sam. And also, we know that Sam has a really addictive personality, and so for him, it was a thing of, she makes me feel good. I'm addicted to this. And so coupling that together. I think that's why they latched on to each other so fast was because they had those underlying mental. I don't even want to say mental health problems, but those, Those. Those things that they have just in their brain chemistry. And I think that's why they just.
- [38:36]
Reggie
No, that's a very good point and well said.
- [38:38]
Kennedy
So, yeah, they're well adjusted and they're self aware, and I think they knew, like, Sam obviously said, this is a problem for me because I'm addicted to things that make me feel good, and you make me feel good. Jordan. Georgia didn't come out and say, like, I have daddy issues, but it's a part of her life.
- [38:53]
Reggie
Yeah.
- [38:54]
Kennedy
So Okay.
- [38:55]
Reggie
I just had a question, and I don't know if this is a normal thing. I don't know what it's like to have a sponsor. Okay.
- [39:02]
Mikayla
Oh, yeah.
- [39:02]
Reggie
But my one question, this entire book was, why is Sam here? Like, do sponsors travel with their. Like, does that make sense sponsees?
- [39:15]
Mikayla
Like, I don't know.
- [39:16]
Reggie
I just kept. And then he, like, he comes to the reading of the will and everything. And in my mind I'm just thinking, like, in real life, I would almost think that, like, the sponsor wouldn't be, like, attached at your hip everywhere you go. And I've seen other movies where, like, someone has a sponsor and they, like, call him up. I don't know if it's just because, like, Oliver did have feelings for Sam and he just, like, really latched onto him and was like, I need you with this, like, my family situation in case anything happens. That's kind of like the way I took it as. But the fact that it was like, I'm gonna come to the reading of the will and I'm gonna. I felt a little like he just felt like he was part of the family already. And I know, like, a lot of it is his personality and everyone was getting along with him for the most part. But, like, to me, I was like, maybe I feel like it's a little weird, like, if I was going to a reading of a will and my brother just like, brings his, like, co worker or like. And I noticed I'm not, not trying to like, talk. A sponsor, I know is like a big deal and it's a very important person. And I know, like, I think very highly of them, but, like, I just was so curious as to why he was there for every single thing.
- [40:28]
Mikayla
I was also wondering that because I feel like, like you said, can't discredit sponsors, but I feel like it can be an easily manipulative, like, not saying, like, him being part of the will. Like, you never know what. Like, if I was a family member looking at someone and they had a sponsor be like, what are their true intentions?
- [40:50]
Reggie
Well, and to me, it was just more of like a. This is like a private family matter. I don't know. But maybe that's like so normal and I just am not aware of that. And we need to do some research about sponsors. Yeah. But to me, it just was kind of like he was just there the entire time. And I love that, like, you know, he got along with people for the most part, and most people enjoyed his company.
- [41:17]
Kennedy
Maybe it's like a situational thing. Yeah.
- [41:19]
Reggie
I don't know. And just go to. I know. Like, I don't know. That was just, like, a weird. And it's not like, if that's what happens in real life, that's great, and I love that. But I'm like, I just. I don't know. I don't know how that works in my brain. I was just kind of like, this feels, like a little invasive at times. I just felt. I know. He was just hanging back. I don't know.
- [41:41]
Kennedy
I don't know.
- [41:42]
Reggie
That was just a question I had because it. I thought about it a lot as I was reading. I was like, why is he here?
- [41:49]
Kennedy
Maybe Oliver just felt like he needed that grounding presence. I don't. I don't know.
- [41:53]
Reggie
Yeah, it was more of, like, the reading of the will. Him being there for that. That, like, felt. I don't know. I don't know.
- [42:01]
Mikayla
I also had a question about will readings. Maybe I need to look. Ask legally. I thought everyone who was in the will had to be present for the will.
- [42:13]
Kennedy
Oh, so you're talking about, like, Alexis?
- [42:15]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [42:16]
Kennedy
I don't know. I've never been to a will reading.
- [42:18]
Reggie
Father in law.
- [42:19]
Mikayla
Yeah, I need to ask him.
- [42:21]
Kennedy
I don't know.
- [42:22]
Reggie
Well, and also, I thought it was so funny how I was like, okay, we're gonna, like, pick this up next week. And they just like, stop. And I'm like. And everyone was just like, okay. And I know it was a lot for them to take in, but still, I'm like, for a whole week, Oliver just sat there and was like, am I gonna be in the. Well? What am I gonna get? Like, you know, George was like, you know what I mean?
- [42:43]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [42:43]
Reggie
I just thought that was very, like, interesting. Okay, stop. We're not gonna finish reading this. Like, I would be. My curiosity would be like, no, let's just finish. Let's just get it all out.
- [42:52]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [42:53]
Mikayla
But, yeah, no, I need to ask about legality of that, because I thought sometimes they couldn't even read wills unless all parties were present.
- [43:03]
Reggie
That would make sense.
- [43:04]
Mikayla
So that's what. I don't know. I was, like, just thinking legal terms the entire time.
- [43:11]
Kennedy
Like, I don't know.
- [43:12]
Mikayla
Legally. How does this work? I need to ask. I need to ask. Sorry. My brain just went all legal terms, and maybe I just needed. I didn't need to do some of my own research, and maybe that doesn't matter at all. Maybe people can be left in a will and not be known about it.
- [43:29]
Kennedy
I mean, that seems a little odd. To me. Yeah, but maybe. I don't know, maybe there's like a time frame where they have to be notified or. I don't know.
- [43:36]
Mikayla
Sorry, I am nitpicking the nitty gritty and.
- [43:39]
Kennedy
No, that's okay.
- [43:40]
Mikayla
That's not my intention.
- [43:42]
Kennedy
No, that's what it's meant. This is what. This is what a book club podcast is for. I do want to mention something that someone pointed out in Fable, and I found this really interesting. So Brianne said, on page 94 in chapter 12, Georgia says that she comes down dressed in loose jeans and a plain white tank top. Her, Sam Tennyson and Oliver head to the cemetery and then to the coffee shop where Oliver wants Georgia to read if the barista is into guys or not. Georgia adjusts her dress and pulls her skirt up a bit. Chapter 13, page 110, to see if the barista checks her. But there was no outfit change mentioned in the book.
- [44:17]
Reggie
Interesting.
- [44:18]
Kennedy
I found that to be interesting.
- [44:19]
Reggie
Nice catch.
- [44:20]
Kennedy
Yeah, I did not catch that at all. At all. So I was like, oh, interesting. Like a little not error. I mean, it's so minuscule that I.
- [44:31]
Reggie
Didn'T catch it, but pick up on that.
- [44:32]
Kennedy
I figured I was like, we should mention that because that's really interesting.
- [44:35]
Mikayla
That is funny.
- [44:36]
Reggie
That is interesting.
- [44:38]
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- [45:08]
Mikayla
Maybe she changed in the car.
- [45:10]
Kennedy
Maybe she did.
- [45:11]
Mikayla
Who knows?
- [45:12]
Kennedy
Or maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Do we want to talk about the cameos?
- [45:16]
Mikayla
Oh, yeah. So I was going to mention that.
- [45:19]
Kennedy
Let's. Let's say right here, if you have not read the Magnolia park series, go ahead and go look in the show notes. We'll put in kind of where we're talking about these cameos. And because we're going to be talking about the Magnolia park series just a bit, go in the show notes. We'll put a time frame where you can skip to because we'll get into fan casts after this. Right, Leave. If you haven't read the Magnolia park series, skip ahead. Skip ahead.
- [45:44]
Reggie
Check the show notes.
- [45:45]
Kennedy
First of all, Henry, Henry, Henry, Henry, my guy. It makes me wonder if Jessa had George's story planned all along, because she's also mentioned in the Magnolia Parks books. So did she? Was she a character that was begging for a book in the back of Jess's mind, or was it just kind of like, oh, I wrote this girl. Let's write about her?
- [46:07]
Reggie
I don't know. I could see it going either way with the way Jess's mind works from what we know about her. Yeah, I could see her going either of those ways, which I'm not mad regardless, but I love the sprinkles.
- [46:20]
Mikayla
Give me the sprinkles.
- [46:21]
Kennedy
And then obviously, she dates Storm. The what is he, an assassin for hire?
- [46:27]
Reggie
He's a mercenary.
- [46:30]
Kennedy
A mercenary. And then we get this, you know, this montage of they're in love. And then he randomly is like, we can't be together. You're in danger. Sounds familiar. Sound familiar? And he says, does he say something happened to Julian's sister? Does he say, Daisy's missing?
- [46:53]
Reggie
Something happened with Julian's sister?
- [46:56]
Kennedy
So Michaela brought up a good point, and you should share what you thought, because I didn't think about it in this way. I immediately went to. Is Daisy.
- [47:03]
Mikayla
No, I think it's where that takes place, is where it ends up in Daisy Hates, meaning that Julian and Daisy go hiding. They're gone. And so, like, everyone that Julian is working with is also mia and that.
- [47:25]
Kennedy
Makes a lot of sense once you said that to me, because Jessa did say this book takes place after the new Daisy Hates book.
- [47:31]
Mikayla
Yeah.
- [47:33]
Kennedy
So thanks for talking me off that ledge. Because I was like, daisy.
- [47:36]
Mikayla
No, no, no. Well, because they also mentioned it was, like, five or six months ago that they broke up.
- [47:42]
Kennedy
Yeah, it didn't click.
- [47:43]
Mikayla
And so I was like, no, I. I didn't think anything. I just immediately went to when Julianne and Daisy were like. Or Julian took Daisy and Christian's running after her in the car. In the car. And I was like, that's when they have to say goodbye to everything that they know and love. And so, yeah, that's how I interpreted it. We got, like, a little sneak peek into kind of what happened with. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
- [48:18]
Kennedy
No, no, no. That tracks for me.
- [48:20]
Reggie
It takes place. I want to say she was specific about it and said, like, four months. Well, yeah, because when did she break up with Storm? When did that break up?
- [48:31]
Kennedy
Five months.
- [48:31]
Reggie
Five months? Yeah. I think she says that it's five months in the future of the Daisy book. The next Daisy book.
- [48:39]
Kennedy
You know, I love that she gave us that little bit of cameo, but now I'm actually foaming at the mouth. And I don't think she started to write it yet. And that's okay. That's okay.
- [48:49]
Mikayla
That's. Yeah, that's how I kind of interpreted that scene.
- [48:53]
Kennedy
But correct me if I'm wrong, we've never met Storm. Like, he's not. He's never mentioned in the inner circle of Julian. Right.
- [49:02]
Mikayla
I don't think who is mentioned besides Christian and the. I mean, he's over lover.
- [49:13]
Kennedy
He has, like, his body. There's. I can't think of their names because it's been so long since I read Daisy Hates. But there are like four or five guys that are like his inner circle, for lack of better words. But I don't think any of them are Storm.
- [49:30]
Mikayla
Okay.
- [49:31]
Kennedy
So I wonder if he's in the same industry, but he's not in Julian's inner circle. He's obviously in the same industry, but I don't think.
- [49:39]
Mikayla
Well, why would he not be in his inner circle if he mentions something happened, too?
- [49:44]
Kennedy
Because it's like, people talk. They're like, daisy's missing.
- [49:47]
D
Yeah.
- [49:47]
Mikayla
But no one.
- [49:48]
Kennedy
It's like a criminal network.
- [49:49]
Mikayla
Yeah, I guess.
- [49:50]
Kennedy
You know, people talk.
- [49:51]
Mikayla
Yeah. I don't know.
- [49:52]
Reggie
I don't know. Maybe we'll get more of Storm in.
- [49:54]
Kennedy
Yeah, maybe we will.
- [49:56]
Reggie
Next book. I mean, I know a lot of people have said that, and I don't know if this was just something I was reading on, like, a thread or something or if it was on our fable, but a lot of people were saying, like, oh, like, I'm in love with Storm, and we only got to hear about it for, like, two pages or something like that.
- [50:11]
Kennedy
You want to know what? I don't really care. I don't really care to see him again. That sounds rude. I don't really care.
- [50:18]
Mikayla
I like Storm a lot.
- [50:19]
Kennedy
I want Julian. Julian. Storm and Julian are like the same person, different fonts, and I would just much rather have Julian.
- [50:26]
Reggie
That's true.
- [50:27]
Kennedy
Like, give me Julian. I. I don't know. I just. In that storyline, like, I. I liked him, but I just. I'm not like, give me more. I'm just kind of like, give me Julian Christian at Daisy. That's what I want. Yeah, he can be in it, but.
- [50:39]
Mikayla
Like, I don't think we'll get Like, a full story of him. I think there will be mentions of him.
- [50:45]
Kennedy
And maybe. Maybe Julian's gonna hire Storm to kill whoever ran them off the road.
- [50:54]
Mikayla
I was actually thinking that Julian would hire Georgia.
- [50:57]
Kennedy
Oh, that'd be so cool.
- [51:00]
Mikayla
That's what I think is gonna happen, is that Georgia is somehow going to be in the store.
- [51:06]
Kennedy
I would actually.
- [51:07]
Reggie
She could read people.
- [51:09]
Mikayla
Yeah, that'd be cool.
- [51:11]
Reggie
That would actually.
- [51:12]
Kennedy
But then that would be messy, because then. Okay, we don't need to get into that. This is about. I almost said the will of the many conditions of will.
- [51:20]
Mikayla
Yeah, no, it would be messy, but I think she is very stable. I think, if anything, it would just say, like, Storm is heartbroken.
- [51:28]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [51:29]
Mikayla
Because he's the one that ended it, so his own fault. Loser.
- [51:33]
Kennedy
Loser. Loser. Okay, should we get into fan casts? I don't have necessarily a perfect picture, and really, I feel like. Should we only just fan cast Sam and Georgia?
- [51:49]
Mikayla
Yeah, I. I'm not gonna lie. I had the most vivid picture of them, and no one can do what I imagined in my brain.
- [52:00]
Kennedy
You want to know? I have a feeling, if I were to look on TikTok, who people would cast as Georgia? Madeline Klein.
- [52:05]
Reggie
Well, yeah, because Jessa has said that, like, when she did the. The casting call for the narration, she said she wanted someone with Madeline Klein's kind of accent and voice. And then the picture she sent on her little, like, Instagram group chat thing that she has, her channel. Some of the pictures that she has sent for Georgia look a lot like Madeline Klein. And I know she likes Madeline Klein a lot. Like, she said in our interview with her, like, how she watches outer. Like she loves Outer Banks. Like, I think she just really likes Georgia or likes Madeline Klein. And that was who I pictured while I was reading the book, because that's who she.
- [52:53]
Kennedy
You want to know, this is. This is kind of, like, out of pocket. And I don't know why.
- [52:58]
Mikayla
I feel like.
- [53:00]
Kennedy
I don't know why I feel like I would love it. I don't think she necessarily fits, but I could just see her playing the part kind of well is Florence Pugh. She doesn't necessarily, like, fit the build, but I just feel like, imagine her reading people's faces and just, like, the emotional depth that comes along with Georgia. I just think she'd be able. I don't know. I just feel like she could act it really well. If you guys are in Jessa's channel on Instagram, if you're not, you should go join it. But she sent Harry Styles as Sam.
- [53:39]
Mikayla
And honestly, I'm here for it.
- [53:42]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [53:42]
Mikayla
I k. I'm not here for it.
- [53:46]
Kennedy
I love it.
- [53:46]
Mikayla
I love him, but he's not big enough. Harry Styles is kind of.
- [53:53]
Kennedy
He's small.
- [53:53]
Mikayla
He's a small boy.
- [53:55]
Reggie
I mean, I love Harry Styles so much. So, like, I wouldn't be mad about that. But he's not really who I pictured. But I will say my kind of out of pocket person I was picturing, and it's literally only because he's Australian. Do you guys know who I'm gonna say I was picturing him? He kept popping into my brain. I didn't want to picture him.
- [54:14]
Mikayla
I don't know, Robert Irwin.
- [54:17]
Kennedy
Oh.
- [54:19]
Reggie
Because his little boxer commercial came out and he was like. Everyone was freaking out about, you know, him and his boxers with the snake around his neck and he's Australian and so blonde. Yeah. But he just kept popping into my brain. That was my, like, little out of pocket thing that was happening while I was reading this book was his big TikTok. Everyone freaking out about him on TikTok. So he was popping in my brain.
- [54:43]
Kennedy
I just.
- [54:43]
Reggie
Not who I would cast or actually say fits the bill for Sam.
- [54:48]
Kennedy
Okay. Someone just commented this in the thread of Jessa's, and honestly, I feel like it may be actually really good. Jacob Elordi.
- [54:59]
Reggie
I'm. I had a feeling that's what a lot of people would say because he's huge.
- [55:03]
Mikayla
It's just hard because he is tall.
- [55:05]
Kennedy
Doesn't he have an accent?
- [55:06]
Mikayla
Small?
- [55:08]
Reggie
No, no. Well, Jacob. No, he's.
- [55:11]
Kennedy
Is he American?
- [55:12]
Reggie
No, no, I think he's. Is he British?
- [55:16]
Mikayla
I thought he was American.
- [55:17]
Kennedy
He's Australian.
- [55:18]
Mikayla
He's Australian.
- [55:19]
Kennedy
He has an Aussie accent, guys. I fear that maybe.
- [55:22]
Mikayla
Well, it's hard.
- [55:23]
Reggie
I also just don't find Jacob Elordi, like, I don't think the most attractive. No. Out there. I don't think he's the most beautiful man I've ever seen.
- [55:30]
Kennedy
No.
- [55:30]
Reggie
Like, Georgia described Sam, so.
- [55:32]
Kennedy
But, you know, attraction is subjective.
- [55:35]
Reggie
Yes, exactly.
- [55:37]
Mikayla
Yeah. What I was gonna say. It's just hard because there is very small amount of actors that are over six foot. Like, if you look up any actors. Yeah, they're all under six foot. And so it's just hard to find someone who fits the bill height wise and looks wise. Not saying that. Jacob Elordi is, like, my favorite pick. Obviously. I think there would be better picks. I love Harry Styles. I think he would do such a great job.
- [56:04]
Kennedy
He's just not tall enough, like, for.
- [56:06]
Mikayla
You to kind of romanticize, like, the height difference and, like, unless it's really, really small.
- [56:12]
Kennedy
Let's just do Jacob Elordi, Sydney Sweeney, Euphoria version two.
- [56:19]
Reggie
Great.
- [56:20]
Kennedy
No, but you're right. Like, it is hard because he is so tall. Yeah. And Harry Styles is so small and. Yeah, I see. I see.
- [56:28]
Mikayla
As a tall girl, put Harry style.
- [56:31]
Kennedy
Give Harry Styles a few inches. Yeah. Perfect. Yes.
- [56:34]
Mikayla
Yes.
- [56:35]
Reggie
He'd have to do an Australian accent, but I think he could do it.
- [56:37]
Kennedy
He could do it.
- [56:37]
Mikayla
He could.
- [56:38]
Reggie
I feel like British accents and Australian accents, they're not like, the same.
- [56:42]
Kennedy
Just all about where you place your tongue in your mouth.
- [56:44]
Mikayla
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have anyone specifically. I. I pictured it really vividly, but it. No one, like, fits what your picture. What I picture.
- [56:55]
Reggie
Yeah. Like, I have a. Someone, honestly. You want to know who I kind of like stinking for? Tennyson. I've just thought of the actor. What is that called?
- [57:09]
Mikayla
Glenn Powell.
- [57:12]
Reggie
I was picturing the guy. He's in. Is his name Matt? He's in the. That show with Jonathan Bailey.
- [57:21]
Mikayla
Matt Bomer.
- [57:23]
Reggie
Matt Bomer. He gives big brother energy to me.
- [57:27]
Kennedy
But isn't Tennyson blonde?
- [57:29]
Mikayla
Yeah. Is he?
- [57:30]
Kennedy
I think her whole family's blonde. That's why I pictured him. Because she's blonde. It does help. I will say, it does help that, you know, Emmy made this beautiful cover with George's face on the front. Yeah. It helps it to, like, picture exactly an actress so well.
- [57:45]
Reggie
Yeah. Well, guys, what a time that was.
- [57:47]
Kennedy
The conditions of will join us next month as we read. Drumroll, please. Great Big Beautiful Life by. That's what it's called, right?
- [57:57]
Reggie
Great Big Beautiful.
- [57:58]
Kennedy
Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry. I'm excited.
- [58:03]
Mikayla
This is gonna be our second time doing her book as a.
- [58:06]
Reggie
Or third.
- [58:06]
Kennedy
Third. Because we did Funny Story.
- [58:08]
Mikayla
Third.
- [58:09]
Reggie
Third.
- [58:09]
Mikayla
We did. Happy Place.
- [58:10]
Reggie
Yeah, we did.
- [58:12]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [58:12]
Mikayla
Third. Emily Henry Book Club Book.
- [58:14]
Kennedy
You know what? It's. It's a new release. It's popular. Everybody's gonna be reading it, so we're gonna be reading it anyways.
- [58:20]
Mikayla
Why not.
- [58:21]
Kennedy
Why not just discuss it on the podcast? Right? Yeah, I'm excited. I've been seeing very mixed things on Goodreads. I'm trying to separate myself from the reviews I've been seeing on Goodreads just because Same thing happened with Abby Jimenez's book where I was seeing all these. These reviews, and I was like, I don't want to go in with preconceived notions. Yeah. So I'm excited. I don't know much about the plot. I know it's about two writers and that's about it. It's Emily Henry. So we're doing it. Excited?
- [58:50]
Reggie
I started the first chapter, but I'm thinking I might need to like visit it in a week or two closer to when we record, but so join us.
- [58:58]
Kennedy
That will come out the first Wednesday in June. And if you like the podcast, you'll probably like our social medias. You can find us on Instagram and TikTok at what she's reading pod. We also have a YouTube channel where we post the podcast, but also we've been doing vlogs and I think they're kind of fun. So go check it out. It's under. I'll read what she's reading and I hope you guys have a great book and we will see you next week.
- [59:23]
Mikayla
Bye.
- [59:38]
Reggie
Welcome to Sky Talkers. I'm your host, Charlotte.
- [59:40]
E
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- [59:55]
Reggie
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E
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Reggie
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