Industry Seating Ep. 228: Birmingham SX – Summary
Host: Jason Thomas
Release Date: March 22, 2026
Theme:
A fast-paced, insider breakdown of the Birmingham Supercross event, with particular attention to track conditions, controversial penalties in the 250 class, rider performances in both 250 and 450 divisions, and Jason’s evolving power rankings as the season progresses.
Episode Overview
Jason Thomas shares his expert perspective fresh from the Birmingham Supercross, recorded during a layover in Atlanta. The episode focuses on the effects of weather on racing conditions, the controversial penalty handed to Hayden Deegan, performance dynamics in both 250 and 450 classes, and speculation about the trajectory of the championships—all delivered in Jason’s candid, analytical style.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Track & Weather Analysis
- Track Degradation:
- Unusually sunny, warm weather leading up to the race dried out the track, making it slippery and dusty.
"If you watch the race, you saw how deteriorated and how slippery and dusty the track got... That was a direct result of all of the abundant sunshine on Friday and Saturday." (02:00)
- Unusually sunny, warm weather leading up to the race dried out the track, making it slippery and dusty.
- Track Prep Challenge:
- The Dirt Works crew faced a "no-win situation": watering for qualifying would create mud, too little would lead to dust. Balancing both is nearly impossible in these conditions.
"It's really difficult for the Dirt Works SMX track crew to manage really bright sun... once you lose [the track] and it hardens up and becomes dusty, it's really hard to bring back." (03:00)
- The Dirt Works crew faced a "no-win situation": watering for qualifying would create mud, too little would lead to dust. Balancing both is nearly impossible in these conditions.
- Counterintuitive Weather Benefit:
- Overcast and 80ºF would have produced a better track, showing how sunny weather isn't always best for dirt racing.
Race Analysis: 250 Class
Deegan Penalty Controversy
- Primary Take:
- Jason strongly disagrees with the penalty against Hayden Deegan, who, in his opinion, won on merit.
"I don't want to hear about this penalty. I don't agree with the penalty. I don't think they should have taken the win away from Hayden Deegan in any way, shape or form." (17:00)
- Jason strongly disagrees with the penalty against Hayden Deegan, who, in his opinion, won on merit.
- Reasoning:
- The infraction (jumping over a track marker) had "zero bearing" on the actual race or outcome, yet Deegan lost the win, possibly $40–50k, and valuable points.
"This penalty and this ruling and what he did had no bearing on the race. Zero bearing on the race at all." (18:00) "That move cost you $40 or $50,000... That is brutal." (26:10)
- The infraction (jumping over a track marker) had "zero bearing" on the actual race or outcome, yet Deegan lost the win, possibly $40–50k, and valuable points.
- Wider Consequences:
- It also alters the championship trajectory for Seth Hammaker and Joe Shimoda, with point swings potentially determining title outcomes.
"If you wanted one takeaway of what this penalty means, that's the big takeaway. Seth and Joe really suffer in this because Davies gets another three points and it separates them..." (20:40)
- It also alters the championship trajectory for Seth Hammaker and Joe Shimoda, with point swings potentially determining title outcomes.
- AMA Officiating Concerns:
- Jason critiques recent AMA decisions, calling this the latest in a "rough go" for officiating and questioning their consistency and proportional penalties.
"We're going from bad to worse here, which is the troubling part... it truly feels like we're going the wrong direction." (22:40)
- Jason critiques recent AMA decisions, calling this the latest in a "rough go" for officiating and questioning their consistency and proportional penalties.
Rider Assessments
- Tom Vialle (Davies):
- "Good, but not good enough. Yes, he wins. Yes, he gets the points... But, I just have, like, I have in quotation marks: 'they could be better.'" (23:40)
- Seth Hammaker:
- Hurt by mistakes, which have become a theme this season.
- Joe Shimoda:
- Lacked standout performance; similar feelings echoed by all podium contenders.
- Levi Kitchen:
- Faded badly due to illness/back issues; getting checked out post-race.
"He was not feeling okay during the main event and that's why he couldn't hold the pace." (28:00)
- Faded badly due to illness/back issues; getting checked out post-race.
Race Analysis: 450 Class
Power Rankings & Rider Evaluations
#10 – Christian Craig:
- Makes the top ten by default due to many injured/rusty contenders.
#9 – Justin Hill:
- Showing improvement; predicts a breakout ride soon.
#8 – Aaron Plessinger (AP):
- Continues to suffer crashes and bad luck ("cannot catch a break"), recently hurt ankle.
#7 – Malcolm Stewart:
- Showing flashes of speed, but inconsistent and battling through injuries.
#6 – Jorge Prado:
- Notable for great starts, improved racecraft, and being "so much better than he was last year."
"He is going to be a podium conversation guy week in and week out [in motocross]." (34:10) "If you are still [out on Prado], that's at your own peril. You're going to be wrong." (34:30)
#5 – Justin Cooper:
- A scary crash avoided injury; credited for resilience.
#4 – Ken Roczen vs. #3 – Cooper Webb:
- Roczen has more pace lately and may soon overtake Webb in the rankings.
"Show me again in Detroit. Roczen beats Webb again, he's moving." (38:00)
"I'm giving Webb the benefit of the doubt because he has three titles to Roczen's zero... But I'm running out of patience for that." (38:30)
#2 – Eli Tomac:
- Couldn’t match the top pace and may have wisely chosen to minimize risk, accepting third place.
"My assumption would be at some point, halfway... he just said, well, I don't have the pace to go with them and if I override the racetrack, the risk ratio becomes a net negative for me." (39:30)
"He wasn't happy after the race... you have to understand that this is the best that it's going to get for tonight and be willing to accept it." (41:30)
#1 – Hunter Lawrence:
- In command of the series, with growing confidence and composure under pressure.
"He really is. Look at his starts, look at his fitness, look at... the confidence level that's growing. I think he fully believes he's the best guy now." (43:00)
"Belief is a powerful, powerful factor in racing and I think it's a real thing for Hunter." (44:50)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Racing Nuance:
"It's like high-level chess in the middle of the race and you kind of have to be paying attention to see it." (04:40)
- Reflecting on Penalties:
"It truly feels like we're going the wrong direction on this stuff... I am, I'm like, what, what's going on, guys?" (22:53)
- Power of Mindset:
"Belief is a powerful, powerful factor in racing... we've watched it change during the course of this season and Hunter's the real deal." (44:50)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:44 – Opening & scene-setting from airport layover.
- 02:00 – 10:00 – Track/weather analysis and subtle dynamics of racing.
- 17:00 – 27:00 – Detailed breakdown of Deegan penalty and its implications.
- 28:00 – 30:00 – Levi Kitchen and rider health update.
- 32:00 – 45:00 – 450 class power rankings and deep analysis of top contenders.
- 43:00 – end – Hunter Lawrence’s mindset and championship prospects.
Tone & Style
- Jason maintains a passionate, analytical, and unscripted style—mixing humor (feet jokes), frank opinions, and respect for all athletes. He’s openly critical of officiating inconsistencies and stresses the importance of understanding the sport’s deeper strategies and storylines.
Conclusion
This episode delivers a concise yet thorough wrap-up of Birmingham SX with expert-level insights. Jason’s unfiltered take on controversial penalties, his attention to the undercurrents of racing, and evolving rider assessments make it a must-listen for serious Supercross fans. The episode closes with optimism for Hunter Lawrence and anticipation for the next round in Detroit.
