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A pulp mx network production. A cerebral and experienced look into the racing action from the week that was. This is Industry Seating with Jason Thomas. Presented by Guts Racing Works Connection raceredos.com unmatched supplements, Firepower parts, Grandstone boots and fly racing. Welcome to the Industry Seating podcast. My name is Jason Thomas. We are on the backside of the Spring Creek national and I am recording this on my AirPods. I'm using voice isolation, but I'm also driving to the airport to Minneapolis, so I'm hoping that the background noise is not too overwhelming. I did a few tests, listen back to it and I couldn't really notice it. So anyway, I wanted to see how this works. Usually I use this, what is it called? Lark Microphone. We use it for our shows and SMX Insider and a lot of different things, which. The quality on that is top tier. I love that, that microphone. It's the one we uses for all his stuff, weed show and everything else. But I wasn't sure how it would do on Voice ISO with this. So this is more of a test and hopefully it goes okay. But anyway, what a day at Spring Creek. And, and first off, we got really lucky with the weather. Friday was, was brutal, honestly. Like, I don't know a better word to use than brutal. It was really hot, really humid. I mean, if you were just sitting there doing nothing in the sun, for sure. I mean, in the sun you were dripping with sweat. Like, literally, you would look like someone was spraying you with a water hose if you were sitting in the sun. But even the shade, it was really hot. There was no wind at all and just kind of a miserable afternoon, honestly, especially if you're from up there, because they don't, they don't get a ton of that. You know, if you're in Florida, like, you'd be like, oh, what's the big deal? The city every day. But, you know, I have lost my acclimation to it, living in Idaho. And yeah, it's, it's pretty brutal. You know, I did interviews with the Martin Boys on Friday, which you may have seen on rdl, and they're like, man, we're not, we're not cut out for this. Like, this is. This is abnormal. This is problematic. I'm like, yeah, man, it's. This is rough. All that to say Saturday was much better. We got, we caught a break. It was hot, don't get me wrong, it was hot, but we had a breeze all day, like, literally all day. And if you were in the shade, it wasn't that bad. Like, it's all, you know, it's all relative. Was it 75? No, no, it wasn't. It was 85, but it wasn't, it wasn't miserable by any means. The only time, truly the only time I was hot was at the end of the day. I was waiting and this is the norm for me. I'm not complaining. This is just what, what happens. On our SMX insider post show, we, I have to kind of go last a lot of times, which is fine. It's just the, the way things roll. I do my track report towards the end of the show and I was waiting in the sun for maybe 10 minutes and I was like, all right, I'm getting a little hot now. I just, I, so I went and found shade until I was like, hey, just give me like a 30 second heads up and I'll run over there. But that, that was the only time all day that I was like feeling it a little bit. So thankful to, yeah, thankful to, to God and whoever you may pray to or you know, give credit to for, for a nice Saturday. Once again, we've been dodging the, the roughest weather that we could have had, so I'll take it anyway though, the, the, you know, the 250 class is on crack, man. These, these guys, I don't, you know, I'm sure they don't want to be all over the map, but holy moly. I mean, it all started with that, the first turn crash. I guess it was the second turn really. And I'm not gonna rail on Carson Wood here, you know, like, I get it, he's young, he wants to go for it. But like, as a, you know, an adult in his 40s, I was just shaking my head at it as someone who's raced a lot because guy, you can't, you can't do wild, erratic things at the front like that. You cannot do that. That is rule one. And you know, like, he would probably clap back and you know, like that. That's all well and good. It's not going to change my opinion. I would tell him, go ask the veterans what you have to, you have to be predictable, make readable moves. Like the number one thing that all riders, especially as you get some experience will appreciate is predictability amongst your peers. Like that's what everybody wants and that's like, you can do like even like stuff like Bartia does. Not, not stoked, but he's predictable. Like it is he, he's consistent and what the one thing you can't be doing is just Swerving all over the track at the front, the front and causing a 20 bike pile up like he did. That is what you cannot do. And again, this isn't a. I'm not gonna take shots at Carson Wilk because he's. I know he's a kid and he's gonna learn from it, but that's the key is you gotta learn from this. Because look at what you did to your teammate in the championship fight. You. You basically, in one fell swoop, made him what I would consider the odds on favorite to win this to. Now he's on the outside looking in. And Davies didn't do himself any favors in Moto2. But also he didn't have the gate pick he wanted. Somehow they got a good gate pick. I would. I would guess there were some shenanigans going on there. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but wouldn't be the first time. And he ruined his first Moto for sure. So it's not just about you. It's not just about taking yourself out. Like, you may have just cost your teammate a championship. And I would guess that the Yamaha team star guys over there are going to sit him down. Not, not in an angry way, but sit him down and say, listen, man, these are one off races for you. You're still doing SMX next. You cannot cost us the championship like that is. You gotta be. You gotta use your head a little bit here. Because he went from one side of the track to the other and he all. You know, like, look at his. Look at his actions in the first corner. Like full send. No regard for anybody else. You can't. You can't race like that. Like, this is. These are professionals. This is. The game is about longevity and excellence too. But there's also a fact of longevity. You're never winning a championship if you're just going in there like a bat out of hell. Ask Chance Hus about riding with reckless abandon. Wear that inso. Ask anybody who has been injured a lot what they've learned. It. There has to be tact within your game. You have to use your head if you ever want to be around for the long term. And that. I was just. He just. He's not. That is all. All balls and no brains, for lack of a better term. And I'm not saying he can't ride with brains. I'm just saying that particular action and it's adrenaline and it's excitement and it's youthful exuberance and it's. It's all those things. But I Like, you know, you could say like I'm old man shaking his fist at the clouds. That's fine. I maybe a little bit of that for sure. But also I think there's wisdom in that too. Like, you know, okay, you could say like you never did. If that's true, that's fine. But I've been in that pack amongst those guys in the first corner hundreds of times. Hundreds of times. So I, I do know what the, the expected dynamic is very well. I'm well versed in what is expected and what other guys are trusting you to do and not do. And that's what it all comes down to. Everybody that lines up on that gate and is racing against each other is assuming some level of trust amongst each other. That that's what it comes down to. And you are, you wonder why guys like Tomac really dislike guys like Bara and you wonder why all those guys dislike guys like Vince Freezy. It's because they can't trust them at all. There is no trust. If you even assume and just one ounce of trust with them, they will abuse it and break it. That is why riders are not liked. That is why like, and I, I've had plenty of people come at me about freezing like you. He's just fighting for position. We what like, that's all well and good. You're allowed to like whoever you want. I'm telling you though, that amongst the riders, nope, not fans, not friends, no respect given, no respect earned for that, for lack of a better term. So that's not where Carson Wood is right now. I'm just saying that he, he, they need to walk him through that and say, listen, going for it, we want that. Like, we want you to be aggressive but there are limits. And especially if you're anywhere near a teammate that's going for a championship, you've like the end all, be all goal for this team above all else, above you, above anyone else on your team is to win the championship. That is it, full stop. And for you to be the reason that may not happen is not a good place to be. I'm just going to tell you that right now. So again, he'll learn from it. This is, it's a teaching moment. But you always hope that teaching moments are not insanely expensive or punitive. And listen, outside of my racing life, I've had teaching moments. Like I literally had the owner of our company call me in my first year or two and it wasn't like the biggest mistake ever, but it was a mistake and I didn't know better. It was lack of foresight. And he just called me. It was, he wasn't mad at me. He's just like, this is a really good teaching moment for you. We're gonna walk through your decision making process on this particular. It was like a, I don't know, like it was a sales deal or something that I approved or whatever. And he walked me through why it wasn't the right call and what the ramifications would be and, and blah, blah, blah. And then we moved on and I learned from it. So I don't even remember what the, you know, like, it was such a non starter, like, of a big deal. I don't even remember what it was about, but I do remember that I needed to learn from it. Right. And I did. It's just been 10 years. So anyway, moving on now Davies is on the outside looking in. The second moto is all on him. Just mistakes, crashes. That, that's his bad. The first Moto, not so much. And I don't know if there was any sort of injury or, or anything. It didn't look like it, but, you know, a hole in the gas tank cost him first moto DNF and second motor crashes. So now he's got some work to do. You know, Levi Kitchen, he's lucky he's not hurt. He is, I mean, somewhat hurt, wimping around. But there is a video on Instagram and I, I don't know who posted it. I don't want to get the tag wrong, but someone sent it to me. It's a slow mo of the first turn, crash and oh, my dear God, does Kaden Dudney go flying? He's like helicoptering. And Levi Kitchen lands so awkwardly on his legs and feet. I, I can't believe he was able to get up. Like, I can't believe he doesn't have some sort of extensive damage ligament wise. But it is a wild video and I'll try to, I'll try to find it and repost it, but yeah, for kitsch. I mean, he, he overcame a lot of adversity. You know, it wasn't the best day in the world, but on a points level, it was great. You know, those are the types of days you've got to make. Hey, while the sun is shining. I was trying to think of that saying right on the fly. But, you know, like, take the good with the bad. This, it feels like that's just how this championship is gonna go. No one's just gonna run away with the thing. No one's able to kind of just step up and dominate. It's just adversity and attrition. Like I said off the top of the. The broadcast on Saturday, now it's Kitchen Stern with red plate. And what can he do with it? You know, Bowmer, he gets his first ever overall. And if you're not a Bowmer fan, I, I would say maybe rethink it because the kid is so nice. He's really humble. He's a really hard worker. If you haven't noticed by how strong he is late in the races and what he had to go through to get back on the motorcycle cannot, simply, cannot be overstated. Like, truly, I had medical professionals tell me point blank he's never racing again. Like, matter of fact, I, I'm not going to argue with them. I have zero medical training. But I was like, I just kind of, like, looked at him. I'm like, all right. Like, I just accepted it at face value. But he's like, no way. No way. That burst fracture he had, way too unstable. The consequences are way too dire. Not happening. He's. He's effectively done. And I remember it point as day in September, being like, man, that is. That is a bitter pill to swallow for bone Mare. Wow. And again, again, I, I don't think this, you know, these medical professionals, multiple that I heard from on this topic are like, like, oh my God, we were so wrong. I think they're more like, man, he's, he's absorbing a lot of risk here. That's what I think their belief, they believe right. Now, I haven't asked them directly, but kind of indirectly I've heard that. But in any case, whether he is or isn't, he went out and won the damn race, man. Like, that is such a cool story and he has earned my respect. Not that, you know, I got. It's not like he didn't have it before, but this is a, it's a really feel. It's a feel good story. And there are so many stories. It's almost like a year ago at, at Spring Creek. I remember watching this back the, the post show and I talked about there are so many hard stories in this sport about people getting injured severely, not making it, having to go away from the sport because of injury or lack of performance or otherwise, you know, so when we get these feel good stories, let's lean into them. Like, let's just be happy that it's, it's actually working out for once. Because there are endless, countless examples of it not and just tragedy and catastrophe and even just. It doesn't have to be tragic. It can just be, yeah, man, didn't work, so sorry, go find a job. You know, like that. That happens all the time. And I don't. That's not something to really feel sorry about. That's just reality. But it's not. It's not a feel good story. But this one with Bomare is. Man, that. That was really cool. And I genuinely, like, most of the time I'm kind of like shoulder shrug about results. Like it. I like a lot of these guys. So I'm not gonna like super celebrate one and then be super downtrodden for another because it's. It's a roller coaster. It's up and down. And guys, this week, good week, bad week, you'd be all over the place if that. If you let yourself fall victim to that. So it's kind of like just take it and then, you know it's gonna change next week. Like Jaime, right? Like, Jaime has been going through it. He has had a really difficult time. And then he crushes it this weekend. So I felt I was super happy for him. And it's the same with Bowmeric. Super happy for him. But, you know, like, I kind of like take it in, experience it in the moment and then move on because I know it's probably gonna change. It's not. These things are not durable. You know, they. They constantly are in motion. You know, like, the only one that I thought you could like really be so excited about was Jeremy Martin because there was. It was finite. Like, it was the end. So you could trust it. You could be like, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna absorb this and really take it to heart and let this, Let this emotion weave a mark because it's done. Like, they can't. It can't take it away from J Mart anymore. He just did the impossible, winning that final moto, beating Hayden Deegan straight up. So I, I let that kind of take hold where these other ones, like Bomar and Jaime San Mode, I kind of don't. And it's not like I'm protecting myself or anything. I just know that it's not gonna be something you can trust, you know, like, it's. It's gonna be here today and gone tomorrow because they gotta. They have to line up and do it all over again next Saturday. So I just have found that's a great way to go about it is like, be here, be present, smile about it. Like, this is awesome. And then it's Sunday now and They, I think they're the same as, like, yep, you just turned the page. And they're gonna. Their mood's gonna be better, you know, like, when they go to the track. Like, I've experienced this. I've been around it also. Yeah, everything comes a little easier this week. The motos are a little lighter, you know, like, oh, cool, man. Like, even if you don't ride that well on Monday or Tuesday, you're like, ah, whatever, it's fine. Like, I just proved I can do it on Saturday. No big deal. And you're, you know, you go to dinner Sunday night, everybody's in a great mood because, yeah, it's. It's. Yeah, know, it helps. It helps with all that stuff. But again, I, I'm telling you, when you get there next weekend on Saturday, you know, like 30 minutes before the moto, there's not going to be a bunch of joy about what happened last weekend. It's going to be nervousness and expectation and pressure because this, this sport has such a short memory, and they're going to have to go right at it yet again. Like, it's just going to be right in their face that they got to perform again. And. And the memory of a weekend before is just that. It's just a memory. And that's cool and all, but you are forced now, and your team and these fans and yourself are all expecting you to step up and rise to the occasion again. So it's. Yeah, it's fleeting, man. It really is. It's cruel that way. So, you know, absorb it. And Hunter Lawrence has talked about this a lot, where you just have to be. You have to enjoy the moment. And he's talked about, like, going to dinner on Saturday night. They will allow themselves to enjoy it. And if you've ever heard, like, NFL coaches, they talk about this a lot. You get a big win, you enjoy it on Saturday and Sunday and then Monday morning, sometimes Sunday, depending on their schedule. Some. Some guys have to come in and watch film on Sunday. Sometimes they get Sunday off. It depends. That's all up to the coach in the end. But it'll tell him, like, if you've ever watched the. And if you've ever been in the locker room, like, watching the locker room stuff, and the coach gives a speech after the game, you'll hear him, like, enjoy this, boys. Enjoy it tonight. You know, like, it's back to work tomorrow. And that's the same for racers like Hunter. I've heard Hunter say this, like, we'll go to dinner. We'll laugh and we'll have a good time and we'll, you know, we'll. We'll let this sink in tonight, but tomorrow you turn the page and you get back to work. So that's. It's a blessing and a curse that way. But if you. If you take it for what it is and you just accept it, I think there is rhythm in it. And you just know that the job's not done. You know, you. The job's done either after Branson or after motocross, the nations, whatever your individual kind of, you know, schedule looks like. But that. That's when the job's done. It's not. It's not now, but it's okay. It's okay to smile about it in the moment. So, anyway, good job for Jaime. He goes 9:1. And really, that's the first time we've seen the real chance Jaime all season. Truly, it's the first lap of it I've even seen. Honestly, it's the first time I've seen what I know he's capable of. Show up on a Saturday all year long, so good job to him. You could say the same for Drew Adams. Like those qualifying laps. First time we've seen what I know Drew Adams is capable of all season long. So is it coincidence that they ride together? I don't know. You tell me. I don't. Maybe. Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe it's them pushing each other because Joe rides at the same facility, same track, and Joe is coming on, too, before the injury. So maybe all of them were collectively finding their stride together. That's a possibility. It's kind of an interesting, Interesting theory to throw out there. I don't. I don't know, nor am I going to discount it either. But, I mean, they're clearly. They've all clearly found some pace at the same time, which is. Which is an interesting dynamic. So championship wise, I mean, I think it's three guys. You know, I have no idea how this goes because I. I don't trust Kitchen to just take the reins with this. I don't. I really like Levi Kitchen. I think he's one of the most likable guys in the field. Very much believe that. But on a racing level, I. I don't trust that he's just going to go get the job done. I have not. Over the course of his career, I don't think you could draw a conclusion that he's just going to go get the job done. Why? What. What would I point to at any point in his Career to make me think that is going to be the case is the point. Doesn't mean it can't happen. This could be the year it does. And we all look back at this year. That's, that's fine. That is absolutely possible. But historically it's not been the case. So, you know, Davies, Davies really fouled this. This up. Not a good day. Thunder Valley, also not a good day. And it's ironic that he talked to Haley earlier in the day about giving so many points away. Like, listen, I've left a lot of points on the day table. I gave a lot of points away. I have to reduce that. And then here we go here. And I'm not even saying it was his fault. First Moto, definitely not his fault. Second Moto you could argue was a result of the first Moto, but guess what? Championships don't care about whose fault it is. They, they just do not. They. No one will look back, I promise you, because you can do it through history given enough time. No one will look back on this championship if he doesn't win it and say, you know what, he didn't win, but it wasn't his fault. You know, Carson Wood got squirrely on the first lap and then that was, you know, caused a cascade of, of errors from there. Like no one, no one's gonna say that they won't now with someone in his family or team or somebody said sure, because they're so close to it. 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Let's talk 450s and let's go straight to the power rankings. And I'll be honest with you, I didn't even necessarily change a whole lot this week, but I do have kind of an idea of who I want to leave in here and leave out. And I left some of these guys in because they're gonna be back in soon. So if you see guys like Jacob or AP or some of these guys, Malcolm Stewart, I left some of them in. I actually took Malcolm out, but I left a lot of the other guys in because they're going to be back. So. Speaking of that, number 10 is AP. I would expect him to be racing again sometime soon. Maybe it won't be till unadilla, but he had a laceration. He had some issues, but I don't think he's out for the season. So left apn. We all love ap. He gets the nod from me on a personal level, too, but yeah, not. Not much to cover there. I just think he'll be back probably after the break, so it'll be good to get AP back. Number nine is Cooper Webb. And not his best day yesterday. Actually rode good in the first one. Sakamoto. I don't know if he had, I guess he had a crash but he pulled into the mechanics area. They changed the front wheel and I don't know if it was a front flat or what was going on there but he. Yeah, not his best day because he was in the mechanics area for like a full minute, maybe longer which yeah, you're not going to get a good result if you do that. So anyway, Webs, he's shown some fight here. You know, Southwick was his best day. I liked what I saw from him at times at Spring Creek. It's just on paper the result isn't going to show up because the second moto was kind of a catastrophe. Ferrandus, he's in this group of, of a lot of guys that are all battling it out, you know the RJS and Cairolis and Barshas and you know, he's just in the mix of all those guys. He's not showing a ton of flash. So I'd like to see, I'd like to see better starts. I'd like to see him more near the front versus just in this melee of guys because it's hard to really glean anything from it. You just see them moving all over the place and battling which is great but it's not like super notable. But at the same time he's some somewhere between 5 and 10 most weekends which is nothing to sneeze at the really only the question there is does he stay at Tucati? I don't know. I don't know that anybody knows he yet. Maybe, you know, I'm sure they would have much more info than I would but that's really the only question I have about Fernandez, you know and, and he's made it known that if he doesn't get to stay there he's probably, he's probably going to pack it in, probably call it a career. He's been around for a long time because remember he was racing in Europe for years before he came over here and won his titles in America. So it's kind of make or break time for the career of Dylan Ferrandis. Number seven. I have J Coop and it's really just because he's been out. He's going to be back for Washougal it sounds like. And he went from 5 to 7 this week just because he hasn't been racing and, and I don't know what it's going to look like his first time back. He hasn't always found his best footing at Washougal so maybe, maybe he just saves it another week and Then he gets all this time off to get back to 100% going into what is arguably his best track at Unidos. That wouldn't shock me. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it wouldn't shock me to see them and implement a plan like that because he's already signed his contract, he's locked in there and yeah, so who knows? But that, that wouldn't be all that much, all that surprising. Number six is R.J. hampshire. And I mean, that was a great day. I almost put him. Almost put him five, but just body of work, I'm not. That was a much better day. He was battling for that podium spot. He was just one, you know, on the outside looking in if, if he would have gotten up there more. And there was a little bit of math error. I don't know where it was. Was at. I was getting multiple texts from people, my mom included, about the math. The points weren't jiving. And it was before. It was before. Who the hell crashed? Oh, it was before Jet crashed. No, it's after Jet crashed. The math was changing really fast about if RJ needed to pass Prado, would that get him the podium or not? And the simple fact was it wouldn't. He would have had to got Deeks. So anyway, in the end, RJ was on the outside of the podium looking in and so what? Yeah, he lost some money. That sucks. But his riding was much better and I think he's going to be at Ducati. Sounds like that's kind of a done deal. He just wants to be near the podium. He wants to be in the fight, he wants to be riding better and, and, yeah, more relevant. So this was, this was a really positive step in the right direction. There's some. There's some Tom foolery going on. I don't know if that's the right phrase here for his. With his suspension. I don't want to share all the details, but that's why he brought his practice stuff, is because he can't find any consistency in his race stuff and not pointing fingers. I don't know enough. Well, I probably do know enough. I'm not going to name names or say any more than I have, but he feels like things are happening with the suspension that he can't predict or feel comfortable with on his race stuff. So he's like, forget it, I'll bring my practice stuff. And you saw the difference. Look how good he was this weekend. So whatever he thought was going on or he thought there was inconsistency with damn sure a lot better this weekend. So yeah, I'll just take that at face value because the proof was in the pudding he was ripping this weekend. Number five, as I said, is Garrett Marchbanks. And yeah, Garrett has been a bright spot for Cowie. I do think he's staying there. This, this wasn't a banner weekend for him. You know, it starts weren't there and this is, you know, like in the, in the grand scheme of things, kind of a step backwards overall. But I thought it was fine. You know, it's like it's a decent weekend. It wasn't great, wasn't terrible. But you know, I think he'll be looking for a lot more at Washougal. Washougal's been good to him. I think he rides that hard surface really well. But he's got to get better starts if he wants to put himself in position to be, you know, third or fourth, fourth instead of fifth or sixth. The starts have to be a part of that equation. He knows it. He's been really vocal about it. But it's, it's the common denominator. Like there's just no getting around it. It's really easy to, you know, kind of put that together. It's not a difficult equation to, to game out. You gotta start better to finish better in this field because there's too many guys like rj. Barsh is getting better. Prado, all those guys are getting good starts. You know, with RJ getting better, Ferrandis is looking okay. Like there's just. And Jacob coming back, Webb riding a little better. You know, if we get AP back, like the job simply gets more difficult and you cannot expect to pass all those guys every single time you, you have to put yourself on the front end in a better spot to, to do it. So. Listen, I'm preaching the choir. He would be the first one to tell you this stuff. But it's really, really apparent and especially if the, if we get health healthy guys back, it's only going to be more important. Number four, he's going to be really predictable. But number four is Jorge Prado and it's fine. You know, like Prado said he was sick. I, I'm not. I'm sure he was. You know, why would he lie about that? But I'd also be. Excuse me, I'd also be lying if I said I didn't expect more from Prado. Now in the same breath. I didn't think this was going to be a home run weekend for him. If you look at, like, last year, Southwick was much better than Millville, so that, that checks out on a expectation level. This race. I remember last year, he got fifth in a moto and was absolutely gassed. I mean, smoked. But he also told us how much he was having to override the bike and override the situation to do well last year. So that makes sense. But my. I didn't have my hopes up super high this weekend. I just didn't. Maybe. And maybe you could say, like, well, cool, easy, easy say in hindsight, but I didn't. I. Very truthfully, and. And trying to be as transparent as possible, I kind of didn't expect a lot this weekend from him, just based off what I saw a year ago. And also I think with Prado, I think the more difficult tracks are better for him, if that makes sense. The. The more difficult and tricky the situation and conditions are. I think that suits him better because he spent so much time in Europe and on crappy tracks, for lack of a better term, that he is able to ride tracks better. Like, the more difficult the track is, the better it's going to be for him. A track like Millville, where everybody loves it, I don't think that's going to be conducive for him because everybody's going to be feeling good. So it. I hope that makes sense to you. It does in my head. You know, like, if everybody's feeling good, that's not a great setup for him. He needs tracks where everybody's uncomfortable. He was going to feel more comfortable when everybody else is uncomfortable, and I think that's a better setup for him to ride well. So not bad. All good. You know, third in the second moto because of jets crash. But just on a riding level, I didn't think it was anything except exceptional. From Prado. Number three is Deegs, of course. And you know, this week is going to be interesting for Deeks. He has a real chance to excel at Washougal, and I meant to ask him. I never know how much time we have with backup questions in these podium spots. And I wanted to ask him about Washougal. I need to go back and talk to my team because sometimes we get yelled at for. For asking a second question. And then I. I saw Haley asking a second question. I'm like, all right, well, I guess we're allowed. I don't know, man. So I. I was a little frustrated with the situation. I was frustrated with myself, but also I didn't know what I'm allowed to do and not do timing Wise there, but I wanted to ask him about Washougal and if he was stoked on having a real shot at going at those guys. You know, it hasn't. That track hasn't been that kind to Hunter and Jet, and it's been really kind to Deeks. So let's see if any of that shows up next Saturday. But Deeks is riding well. Like, you know, like, I don't always love what Deek says and does. I've been vocal about that. He knows it, I know it, everybody knows it. But I love the way he rides. I love how gritty he is. I love how in shape he is. I love his work ethic. There's a lot to love on all those fronts, and I try to give voice to that. You know, like, you can kind of parse through things you like and don't like. Like, I think that's all fair game. The one person I don't have in the top 10 here, you're gonna notice Eli Tomac. I'm just thinking about that right now, but I don't think he deserves to be in the top 10 right now. Like, that was not an exceptional day and he hasn't ridden motocross all season, so Tomac's gonna have better days ahead. He'll likely be in the top 10 at Washougal. So don't think I over booked it. I don't. I didn't think he deserved to be ahead of the guys right now. Even guys have been out, they put in results. Like, that was not a banner day for Tomac. Battling with Finnis and, and the guys. He was like, he's gonna be better. He's gonna be fine. He's a legend of the sport, full respect. But also, I need to see more than what I saw yesterday. And. And I think he would say the same. Like, I don't. I don't think he would disagree with that. He's been hurt. Like, what do you expect, man? He hasn't ridden, he hasn't raced all. All motocross. So look for him to be back in the top 10 next week. I didn't want to just completely not mention him as we move towards the end of this podcast. But anyway, de. I'm here for it. He's riding well. He's going to continue to get better. Yeah, it's just kind of step one. Step one is getting in the fight with those guys, which he's shown flashes up, but not 35 minutes of it yet. Like, Thunder Valley was a huge step. And I think I Think that Washougal will look a lot more like Thunder Valley. That that's kind of what I'm expecting. So number two. I still have Hunter two. I almost put him one, but I left him at two because of Jet's form in the sakamoto. Like that was pretty impressive. So I'm gonna leave Hunter at, at 2 and Jet won. And it, this is really, it's kind of a 1A and 1B. You know, jet has won so much for so long and he's been the best guy in the world for quite a while now that it's hard for me to move him out of the first spot. So you know, if, if Hunter had won the second moto straight up without the crash. I put Hunter one right now I do it. But Jet passing Hunter and, and checking out until he crashed was, that was notable, notable for me. Like it was eyebrow raising for me. I was like, oh, there's, there's the old Jet. And Hunter said as much. So even though Hunter wins the overall, I'm gonna go Hunter two and Jet one and there's not a whole lot to cover there. You know, we've talked about them endlessly. It was more of the same. The only thing I would add, and I've already touched on this is watch Washuagle. It's not been a great, great track for, for either of them over time. They've both had their fair share of struggles. I don't know if it's them or the bike or combination of both, but it has not been a winning combo more times than not at this track. So we'll see, we'll see what this year brings. Is it more of the same or can they buck the trend? But they're going to have to be on their game. They're going to have to get starts. They're going to have to execute cute to not be in an all out brawl with the likes of Deeks. That, that's kind of where I'll leave it. So thank you everybody for listening. Not super long this week but I, I did want to get it in before. Yeah, I haven't done one in a few weeks which is really embarrassing. But we'll get it out this Sunday. Thank you to everybody. Thanks for being a part of this. Thanks for listening and yeah, DM me, you know, find a way to reach out. If you, if you'd like to hear different things or, or help have specific questions, then I'll try to address those. Thank you to all the sponsors. We'll talk to you next week. See you.