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Episode: Build your Plan B: How Content Entrepreneurship Can Unlock Freedom and Meaning
Host: Nathan Isaacs (UserTesting)
Guest: Joe Pulizzi, author, entrepreneur, "Godfather of Content Marketing"
Date: September 29, 2025
Duration: ~43 minutes

Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Nathan Isaacs interviews Joe Pulizzi about the power and purpose of content entrepreneurship. Drawing on Joe’s decades-long journey through content marketing—from founding the Content Marketing Institute to launching The Tilt and authoring the new book Burn the Playbook—the discussion centers on how marketers and creators can build lives and careers founded on meaning, freedom, and true ownership.
Pulizzi shares actionable advice for both brand-side marketers and aspiring solopreneurs, emphasizing the urgency and feasibility of building a "Plan B" in today’s rapidly-changing, AI-driven landscape.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sustaining Career Purpose and Excitement

(Timestamps: 01:46–04:13)

• Ross Simmons’ question: How do you maintain “personal brand excellence for decades plus and continue to get excited about the industry?”
• Joe Pulizzi’s answer: Purpose is now grounded in helping others find freedom, meaning, and wealth:

  “I've been put on this earth to help human beings find meaning, find their own freedom, find wealth, and whatever that means to them. ...As long as I'm getting those hugs and people are saying, thank you, Joe, for being there, I know that I'm doing something good." (03:18)

2. Evolving Beyond Content Marketing to Content Entrepreneurship

(04:13–06:24)

• Shift from "content marketing guy" for marketers to a broader focus on helping creators and entrepreneurs find ownership and freedom (“not much different” at a strategic level, just a larger mission).
• Emphasis on translating content marketing skills (audience-building, monetization) to personal career independence.

3. The Risky State of Marketing Jobs and the Urgency of a Plan B

(06:24–10:28)

• Trends: Job losses, automation, and AI are pushing marketers out of traditional roles.
• Pulizzi’s warning:

  "Where we used to have a career in marketing, we don’t. We want to use that marketing as experience to take us to another place. And that other place is probably not working for a company." (08:56)

• Calls for proactivity: "Even if you have a job, you’ve got to figure out another path out of here.” (09:18)

4. Burn the Playbook: The Book’s Personal Motivation and Message

(10:28–13:38)

• Why it matters: Pulizzi wrote the book for his adult children and anyone feeling stuck or at risk.

  “It's the shortest book I've ever written. ...It reads like a TikTok feed...and I did that purposely.” (12:23)

• The book shares actionable frameworks (e.g., worksheets) for building a life that balances meaning, freedom, and wealth.

5. Practical Advice: Building a Side Hustle and Finding Your “Tilt”

(14:23–19:18)

• “Tilt”: Identifying your unique angle or expertise that makes you irreplaceable.
• Advice for employees: Start building an audience now (newsletter, TikTok, podcast, etc.)—it takes 2-4 years to become sustainable.
• Practical exercise: List out areas where you have deeper expertise and overlap them to find your niche.
• Quote:

  "If you have a job, write down what are...the things that interest you or you’re better than most at...you start looking at it and say, well, wow, what could I communicate on a regular basis? That if I lean into my crazy a little bit, that I could build an audience? That's how it happens." (16:23)

6. Passion vs. Monetization: Where to Focus

(19:30–21:29)

• Many content entrepreneurs succeed by sharing expertise they know, not necessarily what they're passionate about.
• Example: Combining expertise in AI and sheet metal construction, even if “butterflies” is your passion.
• Quote:

  "...Maybe your passion isn’t monetizable...But what I really know is, you know, sheet metal construction. ...Oh my god, you combine that together, you become irreplaceable to a group of people." (20:32)

7. Testing Resonance: Feedback and Accountability

(21:29–24:37)

• Start with vanity metrics (opens, likes, comments), but real validation comes from in-person interaction:
• Quote:

  “At some point go see the people in person. ...If you get it online, if it's through a comment, if you get it through surveys, all those things, you set up these listening posts—they're all great...but at the end of the day, you have to get in front of a human being and they will tell you what's going on.” (23:51)

8. Learning through Community: Building the CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo)

(24:37–27:50)

• The first CEX event unexpectedly attracted a Gen X, mid-career audience—many were seeking a “second act.”
• Programming pivoted to address entrepreneurship, legal, and small business needs, reaffirming the need to adapt content and events based on real feedback.
• Main takeaway: Networking and shared experience are the biggest draws for community-centric events.

9. The “Would Anyone Miss This?” Test for Content

(27:50–31:51)

• Avoid “filler” content; instead, build shows and experiences with real impact.
• Quote:

  “Commit to a show, don’t commit to a campaign. The campaign is not a commitment. A campaign always stops. So what is your show?...If you don’t have a show right now, you’re in trouble.” (29:49)

• Push marketing teams to take risks and “lean into your crazy”—the thing that sets you apart.

10. Defining Your Content Mission and Measuring Impact

(32:12–34:31)

• Don’t target all customers; identify a narrow niche, understand their unique needs, and deliver consistent, differentiated value.
• Quote:

  “Your crazy is not what you sell. Your crazy is what you stand for.” (28:56)

• Connect your show’s mission to measurable marketing outcomes: Sales, savings, or “sunshine” (loyalty).

11. Daily Habits and “Create Before You Consume”

(34:53–37:04)

• Joe’s favorite action tip:

  “Create before you consume every day. ...Get up and, whether it’s in a journal and you’re writing one sentence…you’re creating something first before you help someone else’s business model.” (35:03)

• Building a daily creative habit (even for 20 minutes) accumulates towards significant outcomes.

12. Power of Routine, Process, and Audacious Goals

(37:04–41:06)

• Inspiration from sports: Commitment and repetition are key (Nick Saban’s “just do it every day” principle).
• Joe’s process: Setting big goals (“I’m going to sell my company by 2015 for $15 million.”) and reviewing them every morning, even when unlikely.
• Quote:

  “Most people don’t set goals that they write down and review on a regular basis. If you are somebody that sets goals and you read it in the morning...you’re ahead of the 99% of the world that doesn’t do this.” (38:46)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On generational impact:
  “I selfishly wrote [Burn the Playbook] for my kids. …But there are people like my friends that are 40 and 50 years old that are getting laid off and have no clue what to do.” (10:30)
• On urgency:
  “Job security is dead. ...What could you do with that time back? ...If you’re going to work every day now, by the way, if you’re listening and you’re fulfilled and you love your CEO, great...I’m not telling you to leave. I’m just saying it works great until it doesn’t.” (15:04)
• On unique value:
  “Lean into your crazy. ...Your crazy is not what you sell. Your crazy is what you stand for.” (28:56)
• On feedback:
  “At the end of the day, you have to get in front of a human being and they will tell you what’s going on.” (23:51)
• On routines:
  “You are what you believe about yourself, and then you end up doing those things and you make it a reality.” (39:14)

Actionable Takeaways

1. Start your “side hustle” NOW, not when you need it. (18:34)
2. Identify your “tilt”—unique expertise or angle—and communicate it. (16:23)
3. Create before you consume. Make daily creation a non-negotiable habit. (35:03)
4. Build a show, not just a campaign. Consistency and longevity matter. (29:49)
5. Get feedback in person as well as online. The truth is in human responses. (23:51)
6. Set written, audacious goals and review them every day. (38:46)

Resource Links

• Joe Pulizzi website & newsletter (41:36)
• Burn the Playbook – Joe’s latest book focused on building a meaningful, creative, and financially independent life (41:36)
• Podcasts: Content Inc. & This Old Marketing

For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode offers a rich blend of personal journey, practical frameworks, and motivational advice for anyone considering a transition from traditional marketing (or corporate roles) to content-driven entrepreneurship. Joe Pulizzi is open, direct, and unafraid to challenge old paradigms—delivering tangible frameworks you can use immediately, whether you’re testing the waters of side projects or reinventing your content strategy for a big brand.

“The best time to start is right now…Let’s go!” (Joe Pulizzi, 19:05)