What if the thing that takes a man down isn't his sin — it's his pride in hiding it?

In this episode, I sit down with Pastor Timothy Allen — 43 years walking with Christ, 20+ years of pastoral ministry, and a longtime prison chaplain — for a conversation that hit close to home for both of us. Timothy shares how God called a man who'd never been arrested to a ministry behind bars, and tells an unforgettable story of an inmate who turned down the plea deal he'd prayed for because God said "tell them no" — and what happened next.

We dig into his book Before the Fall and why pride, not sin, is what ultimately brings a man down. Timothy breaks down the "slow drift" — how a heading that's off by just one degree looks fine at first but leaves you miles off course — and why every man needs brothers who will carry his mat, tell him the truth even when he gets mad, and never leave him halfway there.

I also open up about my own fall, the 15 years I ran from God, and the man who sat with me at a Wendy's and changed my life by refusing to judge me.

If you've ever felt yourself coasting, isolating, or hiding a struggle because of what people might say — this one's for you.

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⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 Welcome & introducing Pastor Timothy Allen
01:04 Timothy's story: an unexpected call to prison ministry
03:33 Michael's season in corrections — where God chased him down
05:12 "What I receive far exceeds what I give"
08:36 The inmate who turned down the deal: "Tell them no"
15:09 Faith, obedience, and asking God for fairness — not a free pass
19:04 Performance-based Christianity vs. grace
21:31 Before the Fall: it's not the sin — it's the pride
22:34 Peter sinking: why men drown rather than cry out
27:27 Iron sharpens iron: the brothers who pulled Michael back
29:46 The slow drift: how 271° looks just like 270°
34:46 The enemy's long game: slow pulls, not big assaults
37:23 The friend who won't sugarcoat it — and why you need him
39:43 Four men and a mat: carrying a brother to Jesus
47:59 Don't point out a flaw unless you're willing to help
51:35 100 men walking to Providence: we're never all weak at once
54:16 Forge your brotherhood before the hardship comes
56:00 Where to find Before the Fall & Romans10Nine

Keep being intentional. 💪

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