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Samson Krupin
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Dan Flores
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Samson Krupin
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Host 1
1-800-Contacts. Oh, hey, you're here. Welcome back to another episode of Intentionally Disturbing. Today I get to talk with Samson Krupen. He's a comedian, but this episode is actually kind of heavy and a little more on the therapeutic side. Samson was heavily bullied when he was in school, and we talk about what that did to him, how it made him feel and how he overcame that, his resilience. We also talk about his life as a comedian. We talk about his relationship with Tiffany Haddish and we talk about today he is in New York and he is covering the trial of USA versus Sean Combs. And he has found a passion for kind of being an independent journalist who could be a juror, but really is a comedian and is sitting there in the overflow room watching this trial play out, giving us his honest reactions. And it has been very entertaining. I can't wait for you to meet Samson. Oh, hey, you're here. I'm Dr. Leslie and welcome back to Intentionally Disturbing. Today. Our guest is Samson Krupin and he's. He's really famous on Tick Tock for. For being a Secret Service agent.
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Samson Krupin
Exactly.
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Host 1
But he's not one.
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Samson Krupin
I'm really. Well, you know, it's so hard to say. It's like, am I a real Secret Service agent? You know? No.
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Host 1
Would anyone ever know?
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Samson Krupin
I mean, on TikTok. No, it. What. The way it started, I was shooting a sketch with my friend Brandon Brody. Shout out to Brandon. We shoot a lot of viral clips together. And this woman wanted me to play Secret Service. She rented like an Oval office set. So at the end of the shoot I'm like, do you mind if I shoot something real quick? And Donald Trump had just had that assassination attempt where he, you know, fight with his ear.
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Host 1
Ear.
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Samson Krupin
And. And they were all over the Secret Service. Like they're fumbling, they're going like, you don't understand. It is not easy what we do. And you think that we did not do our job. I did my job and I challenge anybody come to my house and my. And I'm like getting all like emotional. I'm like, tell me I did not do my job. Just did it as a joke. Just like a minute long thing. And then as I get home, I'm like, holy crap. This thing is like spinning on Tick Tock. And. And then it's like this whole thing with Secret Service Sam from that when the Diddy stuff started to drop, I just was like started to say, oh, Diddy's going down with picking some big celebrity. So yeah, in like the last two months, I've gotten to, you know, over a hundred thousand followers. Loyal patriot followers, Loyal patriots. Somebody one day is like, patriot checking in. I was like, ding. I was like, oh my God, you just created my catchphrase. And so I just kind of took it from there, you know, and I say, I don't make the news. I break the news.
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Host 1
But what I like about it is that I believe you.
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Samson Krupin
Thank you.
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Host 1
I like. I. I tr. Even though you're really funny when you say it, I trust your opinion and what you're actually saying in the videos.
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Samson Krupin
Wow. Thank you. You know, that's such a nice compliment because people have said that, like, sam, we trust you with the news. And I'm like, really like you guys. I hope you. Well, they don't realize I'm just going into my guest bedroom and shutting the door. I most times have on, like, my running shorts on below. You know, I've got my freaking jacket, throw my earpiece in, and just my shirt. But it's just. It'd be pretty funny if somebody took a wide shot of me shooting this because I'm like, in my underwear, and I'm like a mullet. You know?
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Host 1
You should do that.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Yeah.
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Host 1
So how do you. How do you come up with your videos? Like, do you research? Are you asking your friends? I mean, I get a lot of random texts from people in the industry. Like, yeah, here's your evidence. Jamie Fox's texts.
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Samson Krupin
You know what I like to do is find a video, say if it's Diddy. And, like, I did DJ Kid. And that was the thing. People like, it's Khalid, kid. Khalid. And I'm like, khalidovich. I'm like, whatever.
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Lex Borrero
You're like.
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Samson Krupin
You can't pronounce it, Sam, but that gets engagement. But he is in a video with Diddy where he's bent over at the sink and he's brushing his teeth, and he's like, diddy, you're making me nervous, man. He's like, well, you're making me nervous because Diddy has his hand on his shoulder. Oh, my God. So I see that, and I'm just seeing the comedy. I'm like, well, why is he so nervous that you can't bend over in front of Diddy in front of the. The sink? And it's just. And then they both go, oh, we're gonna have to cut that out. Thank God for editing. Yeah, thank God for editing. I'm like, but the raw clip is online.
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Host 1
Yes.
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Samson Krupin
So I like to take things like that, tell people this is not misinformation. You know, I'm just. You know, in a way, I look at what I'm doing, saving you the time from doing this stupid research. And people love gossip and want to hear the latest.
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Host 1
The latest. Yeah, exactly. And I hope everyone goes and watches your comedy special.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, thank You? Yeah, it's called Proof. I was here. I had been workshopping a lot of this material in my backyard, throwing backyard shows in la. And as a comedian, I just was starting to think about a little bit my mortality of, you know, Sam, it might not be perfect, but what if you just don't ever shoot it? So that's why I called it Proof I was here. Like I was telling you earlier, sometimes a little, I'm a little insecure about it, but it's like stripping, you know what I mean? I'm like, okay, my body is about as good as it's gonna get right now, Sam. And, and so we're like, dude, your body looked pretty good. And some are like your body look like crap, you know, and, and to take all of that and put yourself out there is very vulnerable.
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Host 1
So, I mean, I, I have this question. I don't know how to ask it, but hit me. I just feel like comedians have a really dark, up, depressed side too. And I want to know what yours is.
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Samson Krupin
I mean, that's what I'm trying to figure out too. I mean, of course I, I have, you know, depression in days where I feel terrible, I don't feel funny, it's brutal. I don't feel successful. I've been in this business for 20 years and you can still feel like dog. But I've also realized I'm, I'm very unique and different from a lot of comedians where, you know, I've been with my wife since we were 19. You know, I haven't, you know, I've, I was like a stay at home dad, raising all of my kids. You know, I didn't go out of town to be on the road to build my stand up career until really like now, you know, now that my kids are old enough, I'm really taking the opportunity. But I don't know, that's the funny thing. Like Richard Pryor, all the comedians I know, a lot of them, it's sad, they're. Some are homeless, they're struggling, some don't talk to their kids. So I'm just sometimes look around and I'm like, where's the example of me here, Sam? You know, and you don't see it a lot, but that's also for me, my superpower, you know, it's like it's taken me longer to get where I am.
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Host 1
I think it's important for people to know though. Like it's something you have to turn on and it's hard to turn on sometimes.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, I guess so. I Don't know. For me, I'm. I was always socially funny and I like conversation. So the hardest thing for me, I started Second City in Chicago in the late 90s, and the hardest thing for me was learning. Oh, man. Like, the funniest people I looked up to or some are nerds, and socially, they're awful. And so it was so conflicting to me to be like, dude, I was class president, I was popular, I could always fit in most times. And I had a hard time fitting into this kind of political thing because, like you said, all. Most of them are turning it on.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Samson Krupin
So I'd see somebody like, oh, my God, you were so funny. And he'd be like.
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Host 1
It was.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, yeah. What? You're like. You were like John Belushi on stage.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Samson Krupin
Thinking, oh, I want to hang out with this guy and what a fun person to smoke a joint with. And now.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Samson Krupin
They're just. That's the depressed people you're talking about. And I don't know. For me, my comedy has always come out of joy and inspiring people and having fun. And when I'm having fun, the audience is enjoying it. So that's kind of, you know.
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Host 1
Yeah, yeah, I. I see that. Like, it's such an. Everyone uses drugs in Hollywood, in la, and it's so that they can just perform and be there and be up and on, and there's just this downfall. And if you don't need that, thank God.
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Samson Krupin
I mean, I generally. I mean, I wouldn't, like, smoke weed right before I go on stage. I wouldn't try to drink a lot before I go on stage or anything because, you know, you realize up there, any second you're off, it's just, you can't. You know, you're. You're on a tight wire. So a lot of it for me, I love after the show, celebrating more. So. And. But yeah, there is. There is a lot of that in the industry. Probably a lot less than there was. Yeah.
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Host 1
I think, like in the 90s.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Yeah. But I would say probably where some of my, you know, like, you're mentioning the. The darker side of, like, you know, I said when I got bullied growing up, or I was in special school district growing up and had an IEP and labeled with all these learning disabilities. So I was called Growing Up Every. You know, I remember I ran for class president in sixth grade. Apparently nobody had a tutor, you know, back in the day. And now all my kids have tutors, you know. God, and every. It's such a normalized thing. But when I was running for class president, this guy Rob Pattillo, you know, f you, Rob. I just shouted you out, bro. I don't know where he is. I haven't found him on Facebook. I was running for a class president, and he's like, don't vote for Sam. He's. And he has a tutor, and he's in the special school district because, you know, I had an iep. I had several learning disabilities, like dyslexia, Like, I like reading comprehension, behavioral disorder. I remember. So I remember at one point, we had a parent teacher conference where they're like, yeah, Sam, he's a sweet kid, but he won't stop dancing in class. So I'm like, you know, I was just, I think ADHD to the max at that age. And I also realize I have Tourette's with punch lines. So I've had to learn to control over the years just to say that, you know, I love the old joke, you know, that's what she said. But sometimes when you're in the workplace, you know, it's not appropriate. You know, can you put that back in. Back inside of, you know, that's what she said. You know, like, okay, HR did not, you know.
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Host 1
So you have, like, comedy in your veins.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, yeah. Like, my dad, my brother, we were all voted funniest in our class. You know, being the class clown in my family was for the men. Was like a rite of passage.
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Host 1
Oh, I get it. Tell me about Marquis.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, hilarious. Yeah, Marquis Williams. You know, R.I.P. marquis. Actually, I found out got. He got shot in, like, some gang, you know, that's kind of like Marquis was this skinny, like, weighed, you know, 98 pounds wet. There was this other guy, Ulyss, which, I don't know, I think he might end up on the sex offenders list. Like, so I always joke, at least my bullies were tough. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then another guy, who I won't name, who's, you know, pretty successful now, but it goes back to the point that, yes, they bullied me, pushed me to the point where I was in the urinal and Ulyss came up behind me talking crap, and I'm ignoring, and then he kicks me from behind and I piss all over myself in the urinal. I was in, like, third or fourth grade. So it's so funny how it's such a core memory and I'll never forget, you know, in my stand up, I tell the story. It was like Ralphie. And in A Christmas Story, when he's, you know, he Said I was like, like crying. And that's what had happened, you know, is at that point where I just had decided enough was enough and I stood up for myself.
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Host 1
What'd you do?
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Samson Krupin
I beat him up. Like, I. I mean, I was hitting him, kicking him.
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Host 1
Oh, you were wealthy.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, I just lost my, you know.
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Host 1
Did you do a good job?
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, No, I mean, he never. That was. And I get emotional about it because I always have this core memory of seeing the three of them in the hall, and I was like. And they're like. And they never. They never messed with me again.
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Host 1
You had that moment of you don't with me.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you can see I got emotional because it's just.
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Host 1
I see it.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah.
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Host 1
You're tearing up.
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Samson Krupin
That's funny. Yeah.
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Host 1
So what's your mental health diagnosis?
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Samson Krupin
For myself? Crazy as. No, I mean, I feel like I'm pretty. I'm pretty normal and even keel. I like to tell people, you know, what you see now is the same on day thousand one. You know, I. I like to pride myself on, you know, being loyal, being real authentic. I don't know. Yeah. And a good dad.
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Host 1
And a good dad. And I. I hate that you went through that experience, but I love the power you gained from it.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah.
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Host 1
And the ability to teach the kids. Yeah.
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Samson Krupin
No, because I had my now, you know. Yeah. I had my son recently get bullied. And, you know, it was kind of funny before it. I was kind of in my head, you know, thinking, like, when is this kid gonna get bullied? Because he's had it pretty good. Like, he's so good looking, you know, he's got red hair. He's like chiseled. Perfect teeth. Like I had up teeth. I look like a jack o' lantern. And everything I built for myself was off making people laugh. You know, I was short, chubby. You know, I've always been cute and charming, but, like, I really had to overcome this. Oh, I'm not stupid. You know, it's like so. A lot of that I've passed on to my kids of realizing, like, giving them the cheat code, you know, telling my son about girls. Like, no, if you make them laugh, they think that's sexy. You know, that's something I learned a few years ago. You know what I mean? And so getting, you know, my dad was awesome, but never was. Like, hey, son, how's, you know, let's talk about your girlfriends. What's going on? You know, and having that open dialogue.
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Host 1
Yeah. So you can. You can be there if you Notice something is off.
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Samson Krupin
Right?
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Host 1
Because you know them on.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. And he'll tell me. I mean, that's the thing. He'll tell me, oh, yeah, this. You know, these kids, you know, just to let me know, like, what's really going on. And I think a lot of parents make a mistake, like, oh, my kid's good. And you're like. You have no clue. Like, listen to your kid's door one time when he's talking to his friends, and he's like, you. I was like, who is that little gang member in there? You know? He's like, oh, dad, you heard that? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, we're just talking shit. And, you know, so just knowing what they're up to.
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Host 1
We have to know.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, we have to know.
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Host 1
Okay. And we have to take a break because of commercials. We'll be right back.
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Samson Krupin
Gotta pay the man.
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Lex Borrero
Welcome to the youe Versus you podcast. I'm Lex Borrero, and every week we sit down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. We go deep, exploring childhood trauma, family overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek.
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Samson Krupin
I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be, like, harder. But sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden.
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Lex Borrero
Is it wrong to want more?
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Samson Krupin
We migrated. Our family migrated here. I'm like second generation.
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Lex Borrero
Listen to youo vs yous as part of Michael Tuda Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Samson Krupin
I wanna be one of the world's biggest drag queens.
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Narrator 3
You've heard the name. Marsha P. Johnson, trans icon, revolutionary saints. They call me a legend in my own time. But who was she really?
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Samson Krupin
She's strutting up there, waving to the policemen in the cars. Pay it no mind. I'm a woman, a real woman.
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Narrator 3
Marsha also survived homelessness, sex work, and police violence. And in 1992, her body was found in the Hudson River. Her death remains unsolved.
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Samson Krupin
Marsha was pulled out of the water, right over the edge here.
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Narrator 3
Afterlives is a podcast about how trans lives we've lost have reshaped our world. Marsha will tell us who she was in her own words, you're gonna be gagging.
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Samson Krupin
Just get your heart ready for heart failure.
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Narrator 3
At a time when trans rights are under attack, her story is more urgent than ever. Listen to afterlives on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podc from.
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Dan Flores
IHeart Podcasts, before social media, before the Internet, before cable news, there was Alan Berg.
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Samson Krupin
You dig what I do? You have a need. Unfortunately, you have no sense of humor. That's why you can't ever enjoy this show and that's why you're a loser.
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Narrator 2
He was the first and the original shock jock.
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Samson Krupin
That scratchy, irreverent kind of way of talking to people. You're as dumb as the rest. That's. I can't take anyone. I don't agree with you all the time. I don't want you to. I hope that you pick me apart.
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Dan Flores
His voice changed media. His death shocked the nation.
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Host 1
And it makes me so angry that.
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Samson Krupin
He got himself killed because he had a big mouth. KOA morning talk show host Alan Berg reportedly was shot and killed tonight in downtown Denver. He pointed to the Denver phone book and said, well, There are probably 2 million suspects. This guy aggravated everybody.
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Dan Flores
From iheart podcasts, this is Live Wire, the loud life and shocking murder of Alan Burke. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast, everyone.
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Host 1
Okay, and we're back. And let's dive into living in Los Angeles.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, my gosh, yes.
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Host 1
What is the worst thing that you've ever experienced or that's happened to you in Los Angeles?
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Samson Krupin
That is a lot to unpack, you know?
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Host 1
Did you go to a freak off?
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Samson Krupin
I've had my own freak offs, but they're not diddy freak offs. They were, they were like fringe freak offs, you know what I mean? Because I never got invited to them, so I had to throw my own freak offs.
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Host 1
What's a fringe freak off?
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Samson Krupin
Baby oil. Yeah, yeah, baby oil. That is not spiked. Okay, no, you know, you know, everybody is of age.
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Host 1
Of age. Just, you know, naked on tables, covered in sushi.
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Samson Krupin
Now, I don't mind that.
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Host 1
That would be Expensive. What did you think you were gonna get moving to la?
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Samson Krupin
I thought I was going to be famous within the first year. I had a script I wrote called Saving St. Louis, which. It's a great script. And I was just. I was such a salesman. I mean, I was class president of my class all four years in high school, which I don't. Only other person I knew came close was Bruce Willis with three years. So I was like a natural born go getter leader. I had no fear to be like, hey, check out this. And I came.
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Host 1
You were better than Bruce Willis.
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Samson Krupin
I was better than Bruce Willis. Still am.
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Host 1
I mean, we should. That should be noted.
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Samson Krupin
I know. I. Hopefully I'll be in a Die Hard at some point.
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Host 1
There are many.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, I could be a great. I could be the great guy in the office is making all the jokes and gets. Gets fucked up at the end because I'm just trying to broker a deal, not realizing how serious.
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Host 1
So you wanted to act?
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Samson Krupin
Yes, I came here. Well, straight out of college, I went to Second City and actually started working there making pizzas with Jordan Peele. Did the movie Get Out? Oh, yeah, yeah, the movie.
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Host 1
Another movie?
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Samson Krupin
Yeah.
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Host 1
Okay.
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Samson Krupin
So Jordan Peele and I were making pizza, we're making pia. He had his dreads, he's just twisting them. We're like right next to each other making pizzas and calzones. And we became quick friends because we both figured out we like smoking weed. And so every night after work we would go to my apartment and we would just get high and be like, yeah, I'm going to be bigger Eddie Murphy. And I'm, you know, and I'd be like, well, okay, yeah, me too. You know, but he had such vision for what he was going to do and he was able to go from Chicago to boom Chicago and Amsterdam to mad TV to Comedy Central to just, you know, and Tiffany Haddish is, you know, one of my good friends. So, you know, sidebar. It's, it's, it's interesting in this business, coming up with people and seeing them explode and you're kind of still down here trying to reach them in a way, you know?
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Host 1
Yeah, I. How does, how does that feel? Like, how do you navigate that? Because you've been here for 20 years. Yeah, Tiffany's.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, yeah. She's one of the biggest stars in the world. You know, it's been a big learning experience that in Hollywood we think, oh, your friend gets famous, you're gonna be right along for all the roll off panocha and the fact is that's not how it works, you know, or you can't expect somebody to do what you would do. You know, that's a hard lesson to learn.
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Host 1
I don't think the world understands.
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Samson Krupin
They don't understand it. They see Adam Sandler, they see Kevin Hart as two people in Hollywood who've managed to put their friends in their. Into work. Tiffany is a black female. At the end of the day, she doesn't have the power that a man has her counterparts.
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Host 1
I think one thing I, I really like about you is that you, you play on your white privilege.
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Samson Krupin
Oh yeah, yeah.
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Host 1
Can you, can you kind of talk more about that and how.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, I mean I was.
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Host 1
Is it weird? Is it.
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Samson Krupin
No, not at all. The, the funny part is just, you know, most white people just can't let go of whiteness or not realize that to admit white privilege does not mean anything changes when you get pulled over. You know, if I, if I walk into a place, the Ritz Carlton, let's say, and I just walk in, like me and my whatever, whatever. I'm dressed, I'm always going to get in there without a look. Compared to if Tiffany walks in there. You know, I've been to the Four Seasons before. Tiffany kind of took over here. She had some money and she'd come. My dad was staying there. And I walk in, no problem. She walks in, I have to go and be like, she's no, she's coming to visit us. It's so up and so for white people to not just understand the simplest that it is different when you get pulled over. I got pulled over with my mom in St. Louis. I was speeding. Officer comes into the car, goes Carol. And she goes off. Officer Quigley is like, how are you doing? How that thing end up? It Pilates when that guy hit your car? Oh, I'll tell you about it later, but thank you. And he's like, son, will you just slow down, please? And you know that just doesn't happen to black families. So, you know, I do my joke where this happened. I was like super high driving. I had all these din tai fung soup dumplings. That's our favorite. And I'm driving it to, you know, to, I think my brother was in town or whatever downtown. I'm like, I take a left in a bus only lane. I get pulled over and I'm so nervous. The cop comes to the side of the car where the soup dumplings are and I'm like, officer, might I offer you some leniency on my ticket for some Soup dumplings. He's like, nah, man, I'm good, but thanks. And of course, in my joke, I'm like, He tells me to get out of the car. So I go around to the back of the car, and he's like, I just didn't want to get caught on camera. Give me one of those dumplings, you know, and just showing that there's a whole courtesy that we get. And I realized the way I look, I could rob a bank and nobody would ever think it's me. I was like, what? No, no, this gun. No, it's. I'm going to put it away. Like, okay. You know, you.
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Host 1
You have educated yourself firsthand. And it's so different than. Especially so many Americans who just pass judgment on sexuality and race without ever. Like, they've never met a gay person.
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Samson Krupin
Right.
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Host 1
Never met a black person yet they're going to sit there and say that being gay is wrong.
- [28:09]
Samson Krupin
Right.
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Host 1
And so I love the message of, like, go fucking talk to somebody and educate yourself with the actual person.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. And I think that's. That is everything. You know, I'm the type. Like, I have this woman who's a trans woman online who I met. She started following me on comedy and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh, my God. She loves to make model trains. She loves Star Wars, RC cars.
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Host 1
Like an actual person.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Well, I mean, my point is, like, she obviously was a man and transitioned into a woman, but she was in the military and was as manly a man as you can imagine, but is trans now. And I'm just watching her journey of, like, so scared now with what had. I'm just. I never understand why you care. Why do you care if somebody wants to live as a horse? Well, oh, maybe, mister, but you know what I'm saying?
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Host 1
Like, bestiality.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, that. Yeah. Okay. I'm not. No bestiality, but it's like, whatever you want to do. As long as it doesn't affect my life, why do I care? Why do I have to insert my religious beliefs into what. Why can't we just let each other live? If you want to live as a clown, great. Be a clown every day. You know, there's Richie the barber, who's a guy who lives as a clown.
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Host 1
But don't, like, have sex with stuffies and stuff.
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Samson Krupin
Don't have sex with stuffies. But still, if that's your bag and you want to do in the privacy of your own home.
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Host 1
Make sure they're of age.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah, make sure the stuffies are of age. Always Yeah, I always say that, but, yeah, I wish people could leave each other alone.
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Host 1
I do, too. Let's take a quick break, and we won't be stuffies. Okay, we're back. Now I want to talk about Secret Service Sam. Oh, yes, because that's different than.
- [30:01]
Samson Krupin
Than the guy you're getting here.
- [30:02]
Host 1
And then all of the.
- [30:04]
Samson Krupin
All the.
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Host 1
All of the men I've just gotten to know.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, good. Am I mult. Are you. Am I. Am I multi personality? You're diagnosing it.
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Host 1
How do you feel like continuing to rise in Hollywood? But you're also naming a list celebrities, and you've got that counterintuitive piece, and that's why no one has spoken out about all of this Diddy stuff for so long. Right. We don't want to hurt the hand that's feeding us.
- [30:31]
Samson Krupin
Right. I'm actually a little concerned about that, but it's just so hard. I've been doing comedy for so long. I've been doing sketches, I put up 8 million videos, podcasts online, and freaking, finally, the world pays attention to me for this. This stupid Secret Service Sam. And so I am conflicted about that because I'm like, I don't want to freaking get up there. And eventually Jay Z's like, hey, man, why'd you talk that about me, Sid? You know why, son. You know?
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Host 1
Or is that how he sounds?
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Samson Krupin
I don't know. In my head, that's how he sounds. We got another one. No, that's DJ Kayla. But I just. That is a bit of a concern. But I'm also like, well, maybe I'm just kind of the funny TMZ for now. And I'll, you know, because my goal is eventually, like, I love Jim Carrey. I love Will Ferrell to act in movies. That's really what I'm best at is comedic acting and improvisation.
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Host 1
But not everyone in Hollywood is bad.
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Samson Krupin
No, not at all.
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Host 1
And I'm the music industry.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. And of course, I don't dislike anybody. I mean, to be honest.
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Host 1
Well, I just like Sean Combs.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm hearing what everybody else is talking about, and I believe I'm just saying it in a funnier, more palatable than what most other people are doing it. And so I'm looking. That's why I wanted to get it into the live arena of it. People coming to see me live, buy tickets. I can do Secret Service Sam.
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Host 1
So in a sense, comedy has kind of saved your life.
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Samson Krupin
Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it has. I mean, and it's been hard. My wife, definitely, my family are really my rock. Because, you know, there's a lot of times you, you know, some little 12 year old will tell you that you should kill yourself. You're not funny at all. And then you're. And you, you ruin your whole day because one person told you weren't funny. And then I go to his page and start trolling his videos of his family vacation. I'm like, your dad didn't pay to get you to the front of the line at Disney. You suck. You know, but it's, it's hard. You have to, you have to believe in yourself, past all of your loved ones, your kids, your wife. Nobody has the vision that you do. And I'd say the hardest thing about what I do is looking past all that negativity. You can't do this to, to know I can. And then go ahead and do it. Nothing was hitting. And I just, I keep working at it.
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Host 1
You know, I think that's a huge message for people, is there's something in you, you feel identifies that you identify with. And how do you get through all the bullshit? And you keep that passion streaming through, streaming forward.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah.
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Host 1
And you stay on target.
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Samson Krupin
Yeah.
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Host 1
Like how it can you kind of explain or maybe if you were giving advice.
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Samson Krupin
Right.
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Host 1
What would it be?
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Samson Krupin
I mean, I tell my kids, it's just, I mean, I start every day, which is being grateful. Thankful for the breath I'm breathing, you know, very simple. Just being happy. You know, my wife is funny in the morning. She's like, okay. And I'm, you know, smacking her on the butt. Like what? You know, and you know, but she has a much harder job. But I just, I just try to be happy every day. You know, I tried to be present and that. Just stay positive. And even, you know, sometimes I, I like to look at when I'm at my brokest, you know, my accounts in the negative or whatever. And. But I'm like, but look at, I still have a beautiful home, I have three beautiful children and my wife. So I think sometimes it's enjoying your, you know, moments where you feel rock bottom because you're. If you can enjoy it, then when you get everything you, you know, you.
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Host 1
Want, then if you can enjoy the moments where you feel rock bottom, you're gonna enjoy everything.
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Samson Krupin
Right. Because when you're successful, you be like, I'm not a flash in the pan, you know, the hawk to a girl, God bless her, she's making her money. But what I'm also so Thankful for is I'm a grown ass man who's had 20 year career. I have a movie online, I have a stand up career, I have a clothing line. You know, I have all these things prepped and ready to go. So when I hit, I'm not gonna be like, what does Sam do? It's like, whoa, right? Holy. Where has he been? You know, right.
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Host 1
Don't offer them. What's saying? Don't offer them water unless you have somewhere for them to drink. No.
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Samson Krupin
Maybe don't lead a voice of water. I don't know what it is. Something like that though, you know.
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Host 1
Okay, on that butchered note, I want to thank you for being here.
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Samson Krupin
Thank you for having me, thank you for hauling your ass sobbing on your couch like a little.
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Host 1
You think that's sobbing?
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Samson Krupin
Yeah. Right. But I've always said, you know, I.
- [35:12]
Host 1
Do feel want to cry more right now.
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Samson Krupin
Maybe. I always, I always tell people I feel non binary. But to end this out on a controversial note, but I don't look non binary. People are like, oh, right, Sam. Right. Like. But how can you tell me how I feel? You know, I, I feel half my mom, half my dad. I feel really connected to feminine and, and look how I, you know, I sit. There's not a lot of men who sit like this.
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Host 1
Why?
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Samson Krupin
I don't know. Because they just don't, they don't cross it up like this.
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Host 1
Why?
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Samson Krupin
I don't know.
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Host 1
Is it. There's too much.
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Samson Krupin
Too masculine. Yeah, too much masculine energy. So I like to think of myself as half man, half woman, just to close out.
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Host 1
Okay, what's the point of closing out with that?
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Samson Krupin
I'm not really sure, you know, why? Because a lot of times in comedy now everybody wants to check lists off and I just want to be funny. But I know if I actually said, you know, I am non binary, which I feel I am, that would help my comedy career. But the problem is I don't look like what people would say is non binary. What do you picture?
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Host 1
I mean, kind of a little bit of a class clown.
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Samson Krupin
Okay.
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Host 1
But I mean, you're sweet.
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Samson Krupin
Thank you.
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Host 1
I mean, you can be kind eyes for, for, for the people who can't see you right now.
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Samson Krupin
Right.
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Host 1
I do have you kind of weird.
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Samson Krupin
I am a little bit.
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Host 1
But yeah. But not like we're all a little weird.
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Samson Krupin
No. Yeah, I am weird. I'd much rather be. I mean, I tell my kids that there was no weird people. I heard we talk shit about, you know, if everybody dressed normal. You're like, look at that. You know? So.
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Host 1
Okay. Thank you.
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Samson Krupin
Thank you for having me.
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Host 1
Thank you for being here.
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Samson Krupin
Of course.
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Host 1
And thank you for watching another episode of Intentionally Disturbing. We'll see you. This is an I Heart podcast.