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Jennifer
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Jennifer
So are we supposed to start the podcast?
Angie
Ready? One, two, three.
Jennifer
Patriots. Gay trios. Listen up, America and international listeners. We are just right here getting close to the end of the race. And I think the first part of this episode, we should get back to our brand and just let everybody have a small respite. Pumps, what have you had it with?
Angie
Okay, what I have had it with is I have had so many people now that my kids are all gone, okay, that say, how do you like an empty nest? Like, kind of sad about it. I go, oh, my God, I fucking love it. And their reaction to me saying that is like, you do. Like, something's wrong with me because I'm happy my kids are no longer living in my house full time. Like, I'm the problem. Do you think that's weird?
Jennifer
I think it's really weird. And I, for one, am 100% with you because as parents, what you're doing. Pumps is so healthy because you're not making your whole life being kid centered. It's their time to leave the nest. You're still their mom, right? They're still your children, but they're going on and spreading their wings and you've done your job.
Angie
I. And I'm tired.
Jennifer
You know what I mean?
Angie
I raised three kids by myself. I'm tired.
Jennifer
Depeche Mode. The song. Enjoy the silence. Is that Depeche Mode?
Angie
Yes, I'm enjoying the silence.
Jennifer
Listen, I've got one more year left. And I tell people, they're like, how old are your kids? I'm like, I have a senior in college and a senior in high school. And they do the same thing. Oh. And I'm like, oh, it's just one year. And I am liberated.
Angie
Liberated, Yes. I mean, it is so nice. I didn't have to take my trash to the street this last week because I only had two bags in it. My laundry is not overwhelming. My house is fucking clean. I can do whatever I want. If I have to walk from the shower to the laundry room butt naked, swing for the fences, I can do it. I unpacked the other night, and I had my top off because I was trying to get my laundry going. And I'm just, like, running through my house naked.
Jennifer
Wait, wait, wait. You did topless unpacking?
Angie
I did topless unpacking.
Jennifer
Let me ask you this. Did you ever just throw in a shimmy for grins and giggles?
Angie
No, but, God, I should have.
Jennifer
You should have felt. Yeah. As you, like, got some dirty clothes out of the suitcase. You could do like a shot like you're a basketball player into the hamper. And then once it's made, just shimmy the dragons.
Angie
Yeah. I mean, I get a black eye.
Jennifer
Because the only people that are gonna see it are your dogs.
Angie
That's the thing. I was like, every time it hits me that it's okay for me to walk somewhere in my house not dressed. I feel so happy.
Jennifer
My only suggestion here is to introduce the topless shimmy.
Angie
And then I'm going to.
Jennifer
And then I think this is a home run. But to a larger point, I think we need to change the language surrounding empty nesting because there is this projection that people put on, particularly women. Oh, you're going to be so sad. Oh, you're going to be so lonely. What's your purpose going to be? And instead make it celebratory. You did it right. Raised your kids and they left the nest. And now you get to enjoy midlife. You're not old. You still have a lot of life left to live. No, I want you. I saw you shrug. I want to change the language that midlife is old. Look at us. We started new careers midlife. And I want to change all of that language, particularly for women. That midlife is old. That we are accepting the language that because we're not a breeding age anymore, that we don't matter. That because our kids are out of the house, that we're supposed to be depressed. We need to change that language. You're 54. That is not old. You just started a new career, and you're America's greatest legal mind. America's legal eagle just started a new law firm. Meet Curtin Meemaw. You're doing. You're introducing the topless shimmy around the house to women across the globe. I'm telling you, we have got to change this language. For women, it is okay that your kids leave. It means everybody did their job, right?
Angie
Everybody did their job. I'm happy about it. Sometimes maybe I feel like a sociopath, but not in this area.
Jennifer
I don't. I don't think it is. I think that it is a time to celebrate.
Angie
I am.
Jennifer
Because, look, women are always checkmated. If your kids leave, they project onto you that you're supposed to be sad, but if your kid still lives at home, then they also give you this. Oh, this despair that you didn't do your job in getting them out of the house. Women are always checkmated in this situation. And it's. It's. I've had it with that. I think that it's perfectly normal to celebrate. I know how much you love your children. And I also know how much if anybody on the planet deserves a break, it's you.
Angie
Thank you.
Jennifer
All right, let me tell you what I've had it with. I was on Instagram last night, and you know the little avatar where your picture is?
Angie
Yes.
Jennifer
Okay. And then there's like a thought bubble above it, and it says, drop a thought. Here's what I have to say about that. Instagram, I love you. I love Instagram. I love everything about it. I look at it more than any other social media. We don't need to drop thoughts. No, people are already dropping too much on Instagram. We already are dropping way too much. We don't need to know what people are thinking. We already see what they're doing, the performative nature of it all. We're commenting on people's stories. We don't. Let's keep one thing private. Your thoughts.
Angie
Could not agree more. That's on my hat at list, too. It fucking drives me crazy because I updated, because I had to update. I didn't know what was happening, and now it's making me. It always is, like, begging me for my thoughts. And I'm like, you don't want my thoughts. I don't want to give my thoughts. Leave my fucking thoughts out of this.
Jennifer
Right. Listen to I've had it podcast. If you want our thoughts, that's a.
Angie
Real easy way to get my thoughts.
Jennifer
I just. I just. I don't want to know what people are thinking. I just. I think we have to say some things. Can we just keep some things private? Like our thoughts? Can we just keep the fact that Pumps wants to topple a shimmy around the house for her French bulldog and her Siberian husky? Pun intended. You know, can we just keep some stuff Private. I mean, do you really want to know what some of these freaks are thinking?
Angie
Fuck no, I don't want to know.
Jennifer
No, I don't care.
Angie
I don't want to know.
Jennifer
And if you decide you want to know, do you need to know again?
Angie
No.
Jennifer
No. All right, Instagram. We love you. Stop. We don't need to know what people are thinking. You already have the images. You already have the stories, the descriptions. We already have all the fuckery on there. Stop with the thoughts.
Angie
Stop with it. Stop begging people for their thoughts because they're worthless.
Jennifer
Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer.
Angie
I'm Angie.
Jennifer
I think we have a great podcast.
Angie
I do, too.
Jennifer
That's my thought.
Angie
My thought. Maybe we should get on Instagram right now and say, our thoughts are. We're great.
Jennifer
My thought. Our thoughts are. We are nailing it. Our thoughts are. Killed it. Welcome the topless shimmy to America. That's right, to all empty nesters across the globe. Okay, Kathy, Kylie, hi. I think everybody's confused. I just want to. I want to state some things on the permanent record. My name is Jennifer, a caller on one of our voice memo episodes. A long time ago. Just, it was like, I love pumps and Jessica. And then, of course, everybody loved it, and it was a great troll, but I don't think she intentionally trolled, so sometimes I'm called Jessica. We know all of the names that we have for pumps. We know all of them. And then just last month, pump says, as we're preparing for an episode, hey, Kathy, will you please get me my notes? To which I responded, who's Kathy? And she goes, oh, I meant Kylie. So now we start calling her Kathy. So for those of you that stick with us all the time, right, you know all of the names for your. For the new listeners. We don't know who we are, right? We don't know what we're doing here.
Angie
I specifically don't know who anybody is, ever, including myself.
Jennifer
We don't know why we're here.
Kylie
My own Instagram. Every comment now on any Instagram post is, great job, Kathy. You look great, Kathy. I love this Kathy.
Jennifer
I get it, too. I get the Jessica. And then it's so funny that some people will write, her name is Jennifer.
Angie
Yeah.
Jennifer
And then somebody responds, you must be new here.
Kylie
Like, no, it's not.
Angie
We changed a long time ago.
Jennifer
All right, Kathy, what's going on? Wait, first, before you start, how many reviews did we have? We set a new goal of 15,000.
Kylie
We have 11,453 reviews.
Jennifer
This is a plateau. This is a faceplant. This is the end of I've had it podcast.
Angie
The end is near.
Jennifer
Are there any new ones to read?
Kylie
Just a few to choose from.
Jennifer
Only a few.
Kylie
Yep.
Angie
They're rebelling.
Kylie
Okay, so this, this one is. Hey, patriots. I wanted to share a story. I just listened to the episode of all the absolute bullshit that Trump is selling on True Social and I got a giggle because I work in a bank in North Carolina and one of his Jesus loving voters came into the bank with Trump bills trying to deposit them thinking they were real currency and got real butthurt when the teller had to tell him, no, sir, this is fake money that you paid for. It's purely monopoly money. But let's remember, he loves the poorly educated.
Angie
That's maybe the best eyewitness account that I've heard in a long time because we know the NFT grift, they thought they were receiving baseball card type cards.
Jennifer
Yeah.
Angie
The money, he went in and deposited it and didn't know until that moment it was fake. That's good stuff right there.
Jennifer
I mean that it's. It's really remarkable.
Angie
It's remarkable and not in a good way.
Jennifer
Not in a good way. It's breathtaking that a grown adult that is competent enough to have a bank account, right. That went through the steps to open up a bank account, then ordered fake money with Donnibal Lecter's face on it and then drove to the bank like it was normal to deposit. You know what we could do?
Angie
What?
Jennifer
Meet Curtain Law dollars.
Angie
Oh, my gosh, yes. Meet Curtain Law dollars and see how many people. Here's the deal. Our listeners are smart, so that would never happen. Yeah, I mean, boom.
Kylie
Okay, we'll end on a five star from Logan Eats Butter. And it's titled Kylie, this one's for you. Meet Curtain. Legal eagle and her wordy sidekick once compared to a hairless cat co host. A witty and well informed commentary on society and politics. The rhetoric from these two fed up crones has landed them interviews with the likes of the nation's political elite in parentheses, plus the occasional drag queen when they need to boost streams by pandering to homosexuals. All in all, quite impressive. I particularly identify with the bossy one's need to end any argument with the last victorious word and the impulse to flaunt my vocabulary to plausibly less eloquent friends. Love a gay man with autism.
Jennifer
Oh, I love him.
Kylie
It's Logan.
Jennifer
I love Logan. Logan. Shout out to Logan. Thank you for the compliments and thank you for recognizing me as the boss. Right.
Angie
As the bossy. I don't think you said boss, said thank you.
Jennifer
I'm going to go ahead and scroll with Logan. Thank you for recognizing me as the boss. Okay. I would like to review some stories.
Angie
Okay.
Jennifer
In the news. Here's one. And CBS News is reporting that airports, coffee shops, restaurants and stadiums now have self service kiosks. We all know this. First, it seemed like a high mountain to climb to be able to do it. Now we're all, we've all gotten pretty well at executing our own self checkout. But people are noticing that a lot of these self checkout machines have begun asking for tips. They are programmed, the devices with preset tip amounts sometimes at 18% or higher in hopes of generating more revenue. And what I have to say to this is first and foremost, obviously it is self checkout. And if anybody's getting the tip, I'm tipping myself.
Angie
Right.
Jennifer
Not the robot.
Angie
Sure.
Jennifer
Secondly, this is why regulations are important and the messaging on the right against regulations is so self defeating because regulations are put in place to protect the public, the largest numbers of the public. This clearly needs to be regulated. Yes. You cannot tip. The business is trying to skirt the system by not employing a person. So they have a computer that they only buy, buy once and then that's it. So we don't have an actual person that has a job anymore. So they're already skirting the system by not paying the person anymore and they bought the robot. Now they're trying to grift even further because we're doing the work right. We should be tipping ourselves and have us increase their revenue more. This should 1 million percent be regulated and outlawed. You cannot tip a self service computer.
Angie
Absolutely. And I have had this come up on my screen before and I was at a self checkout and I was like, what the. I didn't know who it would go. I mean obviously I didn't do it. But because we're always in a hurry in life and we're self checking out and you're just pushing buttons. I guarantee you people have erroneously hit.
Jennifer
That button or somebody that's like super codependent. You know how we all feel when that thing comes up.
Angie
Yes.
Jennifer
Especially when the person's standing on the other side and you're just kind of like, oh God, what do I do here? And then you could have somebody standing there like, well did the person that put the paper in here, I mean, who's. Because you worry about people not getting Paid.
Angie
That's right.
Jennifer
Because nobody on the right will vote to raise the minimum wage. So you have millions of Americans that live below the poverty line in a first world country, in the richest country in the world. You know, when we traveled to Europe, we went to Europe this summer. Pumps and me. And it says in the tipping guide tips aren't necessary in Italy because everyone is paid a livable wage. We can't say that here.
Angie
No, absolutely not. People have to work three jobs.
Jennifer
And so it's corporate welfare, the consumer which, you know, there were times where you and I were broke and when you have to start tipping all the time on everything and you have, you know, a job and a couple of kids and you're going through a divorce and listen, listener Pumps and I've been there. We have been dead ass broke with kids and failing marriages and really trying to keep our heads above water. That can really, really be problematic. And so to put the burden on the general public to pay these corporations more or to pay their employees more or to tip their computers, it is an egregious grift that can only be compared to selling dollar bills with Meemaw Me Curtain on them and calling it me curtain dollars.
Angie
Me curtain dollars.
Jennifer
Visit I've had it podcast.com to buy your meet Curtain Meemaw Legal Eagle dollars now.
Angie
Oh, that's funny.
Jennifer
Okay, I. I wish that I could stop reporting on this. I wish that I could, but I can't because the is only exacerbating and getting worse and what it is. Let me just read you the headline. Homecoming Moms for Stanley Cups Texas mom starts new trend of tiny cup sized mums. Okay, I'm going to show you this image. So listener, what I'm showing pumps right now is a Stanley cup that has a mom a homecoming moment on the cup. Let me read you what it says. With the start of the school year comes the return of extravagant homecoming decorations and traditions. But one North Texas mom decided to shake things up by starting a new trend. Homecoming moms. Miniature versions made to fit Stanley Cups.
Kylie
I hate her.
Jennifer
I hate her.
Angie
Here's the deal. I just want to give an A plus plus 5 star 10 out of 10 rating to your dramatic rating.
Jennifer
Would you go as far to say that I'm the boss?
Angie
I would say that you are the bossiest for sure. The homecoming mungrift. Here's the deal. Those things will sell out. There's no hope.
Jennifer
You just pass the moms for the Stanley Cup.
Angie
People will fucking buy those. There is not a doubt in My mind.
Jennifer
Do they buy them with their Trump dollars?
Angie
Oh, my gosh. That is a great idea.
Jennifer
That. Here's what we do. We message the person in the review. We find out who the MAGA cult member is that tried to deposit the Trump dollars. Right? Connect them with this woman that's making the moms for the Stanley Cups. Because I don't even need to know. I will state with fact betting my kids lives on it, my dog's lives on it. That the creator of the moms for the cups is a Trump supporter. Probably. We need to know where she was on January 6th would be the only question that I would ask her. There's no question. The science on this is settled. It's no longer a hypothesis. This is all Trumpism in motion. And I do want to point out what colors pumps are. The mom.
Angie
White, A. Red, white, and blue.
Jennifer
Nailed it. Red, white, and blue. That's right. But. But listen, don't feel Moreau's listener. We are taking the eagle back. We're taking the colors back. Red, white, and blue for the eagle. All right.
Angie
And we're taking the flag back.
Jennifer
There's just no question. I mean, I've just had it with the cups. I've had it with the idiocy of a percentage of the American public. You can only deposit real US Dollars. But, you know, that just shows you how much everything has been blurred with this man. Right.
Angie
The grifting, it's just awful. I would like for you, Kyle's. Is there any way you could ask her if she. If you. How many Trump dollars that would be and just see if she responds. Reach out the mum, the mom, and say, how many Trump dollars would it take for me to buy that and just see what the response is. I think it'd be kind of fun.
Kylie
Also, I just want to note, I just looked up much a Trump bill costs just one bill. $14.99.
Jennifer
Wait, you spend $14.99 for one fake bill? And it has Trump's face where what George Washington's face would be?
Kylie
Yeah. And he's smiling ear to ear.
Angie
Ear to ear.
Kylie
$14.99.
Angie
So it's not his mug shot.
Jennifer
Does it say never surrender?
Angie
It's never surrender dollar.
Jennifer
No.
Kylie
While I'm surrendering, it says one dollar.
Jennifer
Oh, my God, you guys.
Angie
So sad.
Jennifer
And also, here's the thing. I'm just gonna say this. I've had it with tackiness.
Angie
Tacky has gone way up these cups.
Jennifer
With the mums on the cup were normalizing tackiness. It's tacky. Let a cup be a cup. Let a mom be a mom. A cup doesn't need a backpack. A cup doesn't need a mom. I've had it with all of that and the tacky shit that is being sold on the right. Did you see where they had a MAGA fashion show?
Angie
Oh, I saw it.
Jennifer
It was a fashion don't is what it was.
Angie
It was like, you have been arrested for capital fashion abuse.
Jennifer
It was sound. The sirens. Apb. Woo woo. The fashion police needed to come and arrest all of them. And straight to jail.
Angie
Straight to jail.
Jennifer
It was some of the worst that I've ever seen. Quit normalizing tackiness, maga.
Angie
I agree.
Jennifer
I mean, this is. This is what happens when people have no culture. They embrace this tacky riffraff and knickknack. It's riffraff knickknack culture for sure. Gone awry.
Angie
Gone way overboard.
Jennifer
All right, speaking of class, welcome to. I've had it. I've already welcomed everyone here. Yeah. All right. Just. Just wanted to draw that split screen distinction.
Angie
That's right.
Jennifer
Okay, listen up, listener. We have a guest, and her name is Molly Jong Fast. I have followed her for years on Twitter. She is a Vanity Fair special correspondent and the host of Fast Politics podcast and an MSNBC contributor. Pumps and I met her in an elevator at the dnc and we both were kind of starstruck.
Angie
Totally.
Jennifer
Oh, my God. Molly Jung Fast. And you know sometimes when you meet people that you've known, but they don't know you. Right. And then sometimes they're mean.
Angie
Yeah.
Jennifer
And it kind of breaks your heart. Not Molly.
Angie
No, she. It was unbelievable how sweet she was.
Jennifer
Immediately sweet. We were like, oh, my God, we're huge fans of yours. Would you please be on our podcast? She was like, oh, my gosh, yes. Let's exchange phone numbers. Let's follow each other. And so it's always so nice when you. When you have a parasocial relationship with somebody and then you meet them in person and everything's confirmed that you had good taste in that person originally.
Angie
Yes, she is. First of all, she's smart. I love watching her on msnbc. I like reading her articles. And she is a lovely human being.
Jennifer
Excellent. I like it. Okay, let's welcome Molly Listener. This may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid. In fact, we used to be rather screwed up. Wouldn't you say, Pumps?
Angie
I would say damn near psychotic.
Jennifer
Totally. And we have written a cell phone expose. One could even say it's a manifesto and the book title is Life is.
Angie
A Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches.
Jennifer
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Angie
We are the champions.
Jennifer
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Angie
That's right.
Jennifer
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Angie
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Jennifer
That's right.
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Molly
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Dupixent
I am good. You know, we were just talking for a minute before we started recording about how we met and you guys were. When I heard what you do and where you live and who you speak to in our very targeted media environments, I was like, oh, my God, these women are doing God's work.
Angie
Thank you. It's especially the part about where we live that makes the oddball odd. Odd men out for sure.
Jennifer
Okay, we have to ask you, because we ask every guest, what have you had it with?
Dupixent
You know, what have I had it with? I've had it with false equivalencies. I've had it with, you know, Harris has a housing plan and Donald Trump is going to deport 10 million American citizens because they're never going to check. Right. I mean, and you know his numbers of how many illegal immigrants there are in this country. Sometimes he says 14 million, sometimes he says 25 million. The number is closer to 10. And a lot of them have been in this country for years and years and years and have children who are legal. Again, I'm using that in quotes. So my, I'm sick of the false equivalency. Deporting 10 million people is not the same as a $5,000 or $25,000 credit for people buying their first homes. Right. These kind of authoritarian tax are not the same as just normal progressive policies.
Jennifer
What do you think about what is referred to now as sane washing? So we see these speeches from Trump where it is, it is clear that he has diminished, very diminished cognitive ability and he rambles and he can't stay on point. And he gave a speech recently on immigration where he talked about that it would be bloody. And he used a lot of Hitler esque style language referring to immigrants. And Bloomberg's headline said Trump sharpens attacks on immigration. And I just, I'm really worried because it feels like the Democrats are held to one standard. Biden has a debate where he, you know, he had clearly aged. We all saw it and there was a massive reaction from the media. They wouldn't stop covering it. And Trump does all of this, all of these speeches with impunity and it barely gets covered. How he rambles all the time. I see you on Morning Joe and I know it's covered there. But to the, the people that live in all these red states out in America, do they see this insanity? And if they only see or headline news, consumers they just see this headline that attempts to sane wash a completely unhinged speech.
Dupixent
Yeah, I think that's a really important point. Look, I mean, we saw Trump at the Economic Council say childcare is childcare. Right. He couldn't even answer the question. He said, well, my daughter, Ivanka, Marco Rubio, childcare is childcare. What I think happens with Trump is he's so. I mean, it's funny, cuz if you write about him and you try to quote him and transcribe some of his speech, you'll see and this has always been true since 2016. Like, he doesn't necessarily use grammatically normal correct or anything like resembling what sentences are supposed to be. He'll just sort of keep going and he'll sort of stammer and stuff like that. I think that it's really important to sort of. To really quote him. Exactly. And that is the answer to it. Right. Like if you had a piece about his speech at the Economic Council where he said childcare is childcare, or Donald Trump tries to answer questions. Right. He can't. I think that is the single most important thing is just to always be very clear what Donald Trump has done because he's such a bad orator, or he's charismatic and he's able to connect with his people, but he's not clear. And his sentence structure is gonzo, bizarre, bonkers, is that he has made people always now just say, well, this is what he means. Right. There's always a lot of Trump translation from his allies and also from his opponents. And that is really dangerous. I think the other thing is that for some reason, the mainstream media is addicted to giving Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Jennifer
Yes.
Dupixent
Despite the fact that he was president in 2016. And like, every time, like I remember in 2016 when he won, people would say, oh, you're overreacting. The Opal office changes people. When he gets in there, it's gonna be totally different. You know, that being the president is a completely. It's humbling. It's. He's gonna really. And what happened, none of that happened. Right. He drank Diet Coke, he watched Fox News, he tweeted, he did crazy stuff. And even, like, there were Republican allies of his who were saying, well, he's not, you know, at the end of when he had lost, they said he's not gonna overturn the election. He's just tweeting he's gonna do some lawsuits. Meanwhile, January 6th, we saw, he in fact did try. He wanted them to riot. And this Jack Smith filing shows that all the stuff we suspected about Trump was actually true.
Angie
Let me ask you a question on that because I was watching you in an interview. And so to set the scene like the Jack Smith filing is unsealed and that's the headline for 24 hours. And then 24 hours later we're talking about something else. And I mean, it's such a consequential filing. And so in my head I'm thinking, number one, going on, on the right wing media, they're probably not even covering the indictment with much detail. And number two, is it going to move anybody? And then you have Liz Cheney endorsing Kamala Harris.
Dupixent
Yeah.
Angie
And I think to myself, is that going to move anybody? And then I heard you say you think the Liz Cheney thing may actually have an effect. And so that gave me some hope. Can you tell our listeners why you think that might help?
Dupixent
So there are two things that an endorsement, like a Liz Cheney endorsement does. One, and, and by the way, it's not for us. Right? None of us like Liz Cheney. I mean, we all, we know what her dad did. It is for. It's two, it does two things. One, it creates a permission structure. If you are a golf club Republican who doesn't like the tweets but feels you would be disloyal to your party to vote for Harris, what it does is it says it creates a permission structure and you go, well, you know, I really like the Cheneys. I've always really liked the Cheneys. Maybe I, if she's saying this, it must really be that I have to vote for Harris.
Jennifer
Yes.
Dupixent
So that's the first thing that that does. But the other thing that it does that is equally important is that if you're a low information voter and you're just reading headlines, you're going to see a headline that says, Liz Cheney endorses Vice President Harris. And what you're going to think is, you're going to think, oh, that's odd. And maybe you're not going to go any further than that, but maybe you're going to be like, why is she endorsing Harris? And maybe you will then go, oh, this isn't a normal election. And look, right now it's very, very tight. I mean, or at least the polls show it's very tight. So if you can get, you pick off 5,000, 10,000 people who say, or even people who are like on the fence and decide to stay home because they're like, if Liz Cheney is saying he's not a real conservative, maybe he's not a real conservative. You know, this is, this election, at least the polling right now shows that it will be won and lost on the margins. I'm not sure that's ultimately how it's going to go down.
Jennifer
How do you, what do you think? What's your take on it? Do you think the polls are correct or do you think, because we just were in New York just yesterday actually, and we ran into a couple of friends that we know that we met at the DM that are, you know, political influencers and whatnot, two of them told us, both live in New York that they thought Trump was going to win. And my heart sank into my stomach and so that terrified me. But then I also think, because I live in a red state, and I'll tell you what happened here. When Roe v. Wade was overturned, a bunch of Republican women were really, really, really pissed. And now they have college age children that are more than likely having sex, that live in a total abortion ban state. So I think they're. In previous elections there have been secret Trump voters. My prediction from the ground in a red state is there are going to be many secret Harris voters.
Dupixent
Yeah.
Jennifer
And that's just feeling that I have from people that I know. When you get to that abortion issue and you have a right that somebody had their entire life that now their children and their daughters do no longer have, that has really impacted people. But back to the first question. What, what is your gut?
Dupixent
I don't know. You know that again, like the polling is, I wouldn't put, I, I don't think, I think we are not in the golden age of polling anymore. Right. I think we can agree. So I don't know what I mean. I think, look, there are people who are diehard Trumpers and they don't care. Right. They don't care about the impeachments, they don't care about. They are just bought in. And they like the racism, they like the misogyny, they are there for it. But that number is usually about, it's usually about 43% that he has a certain floor that he cannot go below. And what we've been seeing lately with her favorabilities is that his numbers have gone down. Now again, it's polls, so I don't really trust them. But I could see a scenario if she keeps doing what she's doing and she keeps moving and the economy keeps being good and oil doesn't become too expensive and inflation goes down. I could see a world where she does well now. I could Also see a world where people are more racist and sexist than we think they are, and they don't vote for her because of that. And that is the big anxiety I have is that we don't know how racist and sexist the American. We just don't know what the voter base feels in their hearts or the way they're affected by their own biases and their own deep seated anxiety about, you know, just that is largely based on racism and sexism. Listen, I've interviewed her a couple times, and every time I interviewed her, I was like, she's great. And people be like, no, she. She can't do it. And I'd be like, no, no, she's really good. I interview her. She's really smart. She's really with it. She's really charismatic. She's really charming. Like, this is a really good candidate. And people will be like, no. And they were so underestimating her, it made me wonder, look, I am white and Jewish, grew up very privileged. And I thought to myself, black women must just be undermined at every point, all the time. I thought, this is. This woman, she's attorney general for the fifth largest economy in the world, right? She was the top cop. She was a senator from California. She was the first vice president, and she is vice president. And people are like sitting there saying to me, no, she can't do it. And I was like, I don't understand why she can't do it. And they were like, no, no. And so she's had this incredible rollout that is like beyond anything anyone expected or could have even conceived. Right? And the question is, though, you know, we don't know what voters will do.
Jennifer
Okay, Molly, now we're going to play our game with you. And it's called had it or hit it. Oh, my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it.
Angie
Had it.
Jennifer
Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Okay. Had it or hit it. True crime before bed.
Dupixent
Had it.
Angie
Oh, Molly, we're so. We like murder before bedtime.
Jennifer
We like a little light homicide before bedtime.
Dupixent
I am a little angry. I'm too anxious. I'm sorry, I can't do it. I need to, like, be self protective of my mental health.
Jennifer
I appreciate that. That she's healthier than us.
Angie
Well, there's no question.
Jennifer
We like to have guests that are a little bit healthier than we want to grow.
Dupixent
I just have to be careful because I get stressed out and then I don't want to sleep or I have crazy Dreams.
Jennifer
Had it or hit it? Val renewals.
Dupixent
Oh. I mean, I. I had it because it's annoying, but I hit it because congratulations for staying married.
Angie
Okay, Molly, I'm just gonna let you in on a little secret.
Dupixent
Yeah.
Angie
If you're having a vow renewal, somebody was fucking around, somebody found out, and you can mark it on your calendar. Like, the date of the vow renewal is 2000. 2005. There's a divorce. I mean, it is just within five years.
Dupixent
Had it.
Angie
Got it.
Dupixent
You got it. I mean, you got married once. It's.
Jennifer
Pumps is a divorce attorney, and she has, you know, her own personal study that she's conducting. Vowel renewals lead to divorce always.
Dupixent
Wow.
Jennifer
Yeah.
Dupixent
Okay.
Jennifer
Okay. Had it or hit it? Saturday Night Live.
Dupixent
Oh, they're back. I think. Hit it.
Jennifer
Yeah.
Dupixent
Like, they're doing a good job now, and they have cool people, and it's really fun and funny. Also, I love Maya Rudolph. Like, she is amazing.
Jennifer
Loved her.
Angie
I think she is the best.
Jennifer
I love during election years, it's just. It is like peak American culture. It's some of my. No matter who's running, what's going on, you think of Will Ferrell doing George W. Bush, and to me, it's iconic, iconic American culture. We're in the middle of a campaign season, and then SNL rolls out. And one of my favorites was. Do you remember when Matt Damon played Brett Kavanaugh?
Dupixent
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Jennifer
I had to circle back and watch that a few times. I thought that was just incredible. Okay. Had it or hit it? Morning, people.
Dupixent
Oh, I'm one of them now, so we are too. Hit it.
Angie
Love a good morning.
Dupixent
I regret to inform you that I hit it.
Jennifer
Yes, we. We hit it, too. And we don't have the regrets. Pumps and I have both crossed over to where we are smug morning, people. And we like to send out emails that timestamp just how psychotic and smug we are. With a 5am response. Good morning. Da da da da da Sign Gin and pumps of I've had it podcast. So we've turned into smug Victory lap. Morning, people.
Dupixent
I think that when. I don't know how old you guys are, but I suspect you're close in age to me. And when in this category of our lives, I think that we have so much energy because my kids are, like, almost grownups, and there's a feeling like I still have the energy that I had when they were little. And so I have, like, I can do a lot of shit.
Angie
Yeah.
Jennifer
You know, I'm with you on that. I feel like, you always hear all of these things. I just turned 50. Pumps is significantly older than me.
Angie
54.
Jennifer
54. And, um, you hear all these things about middle age, and especially there's all of this rhetoric right now about women not being useful after they're.
Dupixent
Yeah.
Jennifer
You know. Finished.
Dupixent
Coming from JD Van.
Jennifer
Exactly.
Angie
Grossest.
Jennifer
I feel. I feel like I have all of this energy. I feel young. I feel fantastic. And I. Before you came on, we were talking about the need to normalize and celebrate being an empty nester and not projecting that that is a sad thing for a woman. And normalize and celebrate being middle age. Age, because it's really not that old. And you feel great and you're fully capable and able of doing everything you could do when you were younger, but with a heck of a lot more wisdom and life experience.
Dupixent
Yeah, I totally agree.
Jennifer
Okay. Had it or hit it? Parent teacher conferences.
Dupixent
I actually. Okay. I have three kids. One is in college, two are in high school. I. It depends on the kid. Okay, that's true. Let's be honest. I've had the conferences where they're like, we love said child. And I've had the conferences where they're like, well. And so I think if you have the kid where the school likes them, then hit it. And if you have the kid where the school is merely tolerating them, than had it.
Angie
Had. Had all those conferences myself.
Jennifer
I completely agree. Yeah, yeah. Completely agree. Okay. Had it or hit it. The Oxford comma.
Dupixent
Oh. I've never been a great grammar person, but I do. I do like an Oxford comma. It shows you. It shows you care.
Jennifer
I agree. I agree. I am a huge proponent of the Oxford comma. We get in huge discussions with our millennial producers of the podcast because they are anti Oxford comma. But we here at. I've had it. Are advocates for the Oxford comma. And I'm glad that you can join us in this fight. Yes.
Dupixent
46, baby. We're all around the same age, so. Yes.
Jennifer
Okay, last one. Had it or hit it? Harris Walls.
Dupixent
Oh, hit it. And hopefully all of you will too.
Angie
That's right. Up and down the ballot.
Dupixent
Yes, up and down. And I would say a few things. One is she has. She's really done a great job. She has just done really well. I just. What I would like to see is her and Walls out there just crisscrossing the country bus, touring Pennsylvania. Don't trust the polls. Just get Harris Walls out there every day, a couple times a day. You know, rallies, local media, just all the local Radio stations, all the stuff where you can, local newspapers, everything where you can get local people to see. I mean, if a presidential candidate comes to your town, you're significantly more likely to A, vote and B, vote for that candidate.
Jennifer
And one important component of everything that you said, which what I would call high road campaigning, I don't want our listener to forget that there also is the low road campaigning. And what I would say with that is really large crowds posted constantly on Truth Social.
Dupixent
Yes, yes.
Jennifer
An audience of one and lots of posting of the lackluster, abysmal, shrinking crowd size that is happening from her opponent. I think some of the low road campaigning is also important, but that's why we like to have big guests with big ideas that are up on the high road to juxtapose the petty grievances that we offer here at I've had it.
Dupixent
We love a petty grievance. I'm all for petty grievance. I, you know, I think there's really a place for pettiness, especially in the year 2024.
Jennifer
I agree. Molly Zhang, Fast. I'm so glad that we made this happen. From a happen chance elevator ride to obviously one of the best episodes we've ever record.
Dupixent
I have to tell you, you two, like, when I met you, both of you, first of all, you were just so adorable, so chic, so fabulous. But then you told me about where you are doing your podcast, where you live, what. And you know, that is so important and especially in a red state like, you give people hope, you connect with people, you give them permission to vote their conscience. I mean, it's just so incredibly important and really uplifting to me.
Jennifer
Oh, thank you.
Angie
So thank you for being a part of that.
Jennifer
Yes. And thank you for that support.
Dupixent
Yeah, I'm delighted.
Angie
Yes.
Dupixent
It's really true.
Jennifer
So, all right. Thank you so much. Thank you, Molly. Thank you. I would just like to point out that it's one of the coolest things about doing this podcast has been that you and I have been political junkies. And we go over to Twitter, we watch msnbc, we'll flip over to cnn, we'll watch the BBC. We're reading, you know, all of these articles from all of these people. So we've known of Molly Jong Fast for quite some time. Listener. She may be new to you, but she's an incredible journalist, an incredibly responsible voice in journalism that I've admired for a long time, as has Pumps. And how surreal it is still to bump into these people and meet them and then have them guests on Our podcast, it's still kind of surreal to me.
Angie
It kind of feels like imposter syndrome sometimes doing this podcast. Like I'm like, how am I here? How did I get here? And I, it's.
Jennifer
Oh, I'll tell you why. Why, it's those topless shimmies around the house. It's just a, it's just. No, here's the thing. I think it's important, I think she's right, that the voices, all voices in America have, have merit. And when you hear red states, blue states, and all the divisiveness of that you have, like in our city, all of our friends, all of the people with whom we spend time with are voting for Kamala Harris. And they might be more to the center than we are. They might be, have always voted Republican, but the Roe situation and Donald Trump's immoral behavior has pushed them over here. Or they could be further left than you and I. And, and that is, we get messages all the time, don't we, Kathy? From people who say, I live in Tennessee or I live in Georgia or I live in Kentucky or I live in Alabama. I feel so represented, I feel so seen, I feel so heard with your accents and that you're in a red state because we are all out here. So this episode is dedicated to all of you because it is sometimes frustrating and you feel like maybe you're living in the wrong place and you feel like, oh my God, everybody around me is a crazy Trumper and it's really depressing.
Angie
It is.
Jennifer
All right, listen, go to our link in bio. We have a book coming out. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. And contrary to what you may believe, we have not always been this rock solid. In this book we go a little deeper to all of the fuck ups, all the that we've engaged in, which are abundant.
Angie
So many.
Jennifer
The book's way too short.
Angie
Way too short.
Jennifer
Considering how badly it would have been.
Angie
Like a dictionary size if we went through every detail.
Jennifer
Yes, yes. So anyway, please go pre order that it's going to come out in May of 2025 so it can be your summer book. Book of the summer. The book to be seen while you're laying out at the pool.
Angie
Absolutely.
Jennifer
Drinking a frozen cocktail. And I Hip News, we do have another podcast called I Hip News. But most importantly, citizens of New York City and surrounding Tri state area, we have a show November 16th. It is a matinee because we are normalizing matinees because nobody, nobody wants to go to a show. At 8pm with a bunch of liquored up nuts. What you do is you come to our show, get liquored up while at the show, then you can go either home or you can go out and engage in full blown fuckery. But nonetheless, a 3pm start time is optimal.
Angie
It's the perfect, perfect time.
Jennifer
There are still tickets left. Come join us at Town hall in New York City and pumps.
Angie
Tell em we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.
Jennifer
I'll tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with that. Listen up patriots, gay triots and Natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America. Always served with a side of petty grievances.
Angie
We are on all the available platforms, Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcasts and YouTube.
Jennifer
Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with a machine America's greatest legal mind Pumps. Pumps. What does an eagle say?
Angie
Caca.
Jennifer
A little bit more enthusiasm.
Angie
Caca.
Jennifer
That's it. That's, that's, that's the patriotism that this country needs right there. It had to be you.
Dupixent
Dang.
Jennifer
You're not supposed to sound that good at karaoke.
Angie
You've just only heard me sing all stuffed up with nasal polyps. But now I'm on this medicine and breathing better. So this is me with less congestion.
Molly
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Angie
Oh, this is your song.
Jennifer
Wish I was singing after congested you.
Molly
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Angie
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Molly
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Jennifer
It had to be you.
Dupixent
Dang.
Jennifer
You're not supposed to sound that good at karaoke.
Angie
You've just only heard me sing all stuffed up with nasal polyps. But now I'm on this medicine and breathing better, so this is me with less congestion.
Molly
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Angie
Oh, this is your song.
Jennifer
Wish I was singing.
Molly
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Angie
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Molly
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Podcast Summary: "I've Had It" – Episode: A Place for Pettiness
Release Date: October 24, 2024
Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Special Guest: Molly Jong Fast
In this engaging episode of “I’ve Had It,” hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve into the nuanced realm of pettiness, blending personal anecdotes with sharp political commentary. The episode is punctuated by humor, heartfelt discussions, and insightful conversations with their special guest, Molly Jong Fast.
The episode kicks off with the hosts sharing their experiences with the empty nest phase. Angie expresses her frustration with societal expectations surrounding this life stage:
Angie (01:19): “I have so many people now that my kids are all gone… they think something’s wrong with me because I’m happy.”
Jennifer wholeheartedly agrees, emphasizing the importance of celebrating children’s independence:
Jennifer (02:18): “As parents, what you’re doing is so healthy because you’re not making your whole life kid-centered. It’s their time to leave the nest.”
The conversation evolves into a broader discussion on midlife, challenging the stigmatization of this period as being “old” and advocating for its celebration:
Jennifer (05:17): “We need to change the language surrounding empty nesting… midlife is not old. We still have a lot of life left to live.”
Transitioning from personal life, Jennifer vents about Instagram’s intrusive new feature prompting users to share their thoughts:
Jennifer (06:00): “We’re dropping way too much on Instagram. We don’t need to know what people are thinking. Let’s keep one thing private.”
Angie adds her exasperation:
Angie (06:10): “Leave my fucking thoughts out of this.”
The hosts humorously mock the feature’s persistence, highlighting the overexposure on social media platforms.
The hosts review listener feedback, poking fun at the myriad nicknames they've accumulated over time:
Kylie (10:27): “Meet Curtain Law dollars… I particularly identify with the bossy one's need to end any argument…”
Jennifer and Angie playfully interact with the reviewer’s humorous remarks, maintaining a lighthearted atmosphere.
Jennifer transitions to a current events discussion, addressing the rising issue of self-service kiosks soliciting tips:
Jennifer (13:31): “Self-checkout machines are now asking for tips… this needs to be regulated and outlawed.”
Angie echoes the sentiment, sharing her own baffling encounters:
Angie (15:30): “I was at a self-checkout and I was like, what the.”
They critique the lack of regulation and the unfair burden placed on consumers, comparing it to absurd ideas like selling fake money.
The conversation shifts to political satire, focusing on quirky trends like “Homecoming Moms for Stanley Cups” and the absurdity of Trump-themed fake currency:
Angie (19:09): “People will fucking buy those. There is no hope.”
Jennifer (21:36): “Selling dollar bills with Meemaw Me Curtain on them… It’s Trumpism in motion.”
The hosts mock the blending of politics with tacky merchandise, emphasizing the cultural decay they perceive.
The episode features a compelling interview with Molly Jong Fast, a Vanity Fair special correspondent and host of the "Fast Politics" podcast. The hosts recount their serendipitous meeting with Molly at the DNC elevator, highlighting her warmth and professionalism.
Molly engages in a robust discussion on the current political landscape, addressing issues such as Donald Trump’s rhetoric, media coverage disparities, and election dynamics:
Molly (28:46): “I’ve had it with false equivalencies… authoritarian tactics are not the same as normal progressive policies.”
She critiques the media’s handling of Trump’s speeches, emphasizing the dangers of underreporting his erratic behavior compared to the extensive coverage of Biden’s debates.
Molly (32:54): “The mainstream media is addicted to giving Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt…”
Jennifer expands on the topic, questioning the reliability of polls and expressing concern over hidden voter biases.
Jennifer (37:31): “My prediction from the ground in a red state is there are going to be many secret Harris voters.”
Molly discusses Liz Cheney’s endorsement of Kamala Harris, analyzing its potential impact on voter behavior and the political landscape:
Molly (34:25): “An endorsement like Liz Cheney’s creates a permission structure… it might prompt voters to reconsider their stance.”
The hosts introduce their playful game “Had It or Hit It” with Molly, where they debate whether certain topics are frustrating ("Had it") or enjoyable ("Hit it"). Highlights include:
Molly appreciates the game's blend of humor and relatability, contributing to a lively and entertaining segment.
Jennifer and Angie promote their upcoming book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches, detailing their personal struggles and journey to creating the podcast. They invite listeners to pre-order and attend their live show in New York City:
Jennifer (52:16): “Pre-order your copy now. It’s coming out in May of 2025.”
They also announce a live event scheduled for November 16th at Town Hall in New York City, encouraging fans to join for an afternoon of spirited discussions and entertainment.
The episode wraps up with humorous promotions and final thoughts on celebrating midlife and personal achievements. The hosts reiterate their commitment to providing a platform for both serious discussions and lighthearted pettiness, ensuring listeners feel seen and heard regardless of their political inclinations.
This comprehensive episode of “I’ve Had It” masterfully intertwines personal narratives with incisive political analysis, all while maintaining a comedic and relatable tone. Whether discussing empty nest syndrome, the pitfalls of social media, or the intricacies of current political events, Jennifer, Angie, and Molly offer listeners a rich tapestry of insights and laughs.