Another Day, Another Dumbass

Summary

Podcast Summary: “Another Day, Another Dumbass” – I’ve Had It

Podcast Information:

• Title: I've Had It
• Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
• Episode: Another Day, Another Dumbass
• Release Date: July 8, 2025
• Description: Join Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan and their special guests on “I’ve Had It” for a comedic, feel-good exploration of everyday frustrations and societal issues.

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1. Opening Rants: Formal Texts and Signatures (00:25 - 04:16)

The episode kicks off with Jennifer and Angie expressing their annoyance with overly formal text messages, particularly those from Angie’s ex-husband. Angie vents about receiving texts that begin with her name and end with formal signatures, questioning the necessity and narcissism behind such practices.

Angie (00:25): "I cannot stand it when people send me a text to my phone that I know and then they begin it with Angie and then they write what they're going to write and then they sign their names."

Jennifer echoes this frustration, highlighting the unnecessary formality in digital communication and the psychological implications of adding signatures to texts.

Jennifer (01:22): "I think there's a layer of narcissism to that because the people that I know that do it kind of have those issues."

2. Healthcare Frustrations: Pap Smears and Men’s Health (04:16 - 07:05)

Transitioning from digital etiquette, Jennifer shares her recent experience with a pap smear, leading to a broader discussion on healthcare frustrations. She critiques the current state of the healthcare industry, emphasizing the decline in trust towards medical professionals post-COVID and the backlash against healthcare expertise.

Jennifer (04:16): "I have to stand it ... I just have a small signature on a text message. ... It is the same formality of bullshit."

Angie picks up the conversation, humorously suggesting a male counterpart to pap smears, highlighting the gender disparities in healthcare procedures.

Angie (05:53): "I would just even start. I mean, I would think that I would feel a little bit better if no erectile dysfunction meds were given out..."

3. Imagining an All-Female Government: Policies and Political Grievances (07:05 - 09:15)

The hosts delve into a satirical vision of an all-female government, outlining humorous yet pointed policies aimed at mocking current political figures like Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham. They fantasize about enforcing absurd laws, such as publicly revealing politicians' private lives and personal habits.

Jennifer (07:05): "If you were staring down the barrel of a gun ... your faith is not gonna do okay."

4. Defending Against Political Trolls: Katya’s Takedown of Lindsey Graham (09:15 - 11:22)

Jennifer brings up a notable interaction with Katya, a drag queen who famously tore apart Senator Lindsey Graham on Twitter. She reminisces about Katya’s sharp wit and the impact of her trolling on political discourse, emphasizing the importance of such voices in holding public figures accountable.

Jennifer (09:20): "Katya ... responds with ... 'You are nothing but an abhorrent Zionist death cult...'"

5. Podcast Reviews: Embracing Criticism and Appreciation (11:22 - 15:50)

Jennifer and Angie address feedback from their listeners, both negative and positive. They humorously acknowledge a one-star review while celebrating a five-star review that praises their candid and unfiltered discussions.

Negative Review (11:33): "These hosts are incredibly out there with their views. How anyone can listen to this nonsense is beyond me. No, thanks."

Positive Review (12:21): "These unhinged ladies ... are also extremely correct about everything."

6. Exploring Introversion and Extroversion: Balancing Social Interactions (15:05 - 19:25)

The conversation shifts to personality traits, specifically the concept of being an "extroverted introvert." Both hosts reflect on their social behaviors, energy levels, and preferences for meaningful conversations over small talk. They share personal anecdotes illustrating their selective social interactions and the challenges of maintaining social energy.

Jennifer (15:05): "Number one, certain people drain you while others energize you. Ding, ding, ding."

7. Political Rants: Oklahoma, Democracy, and Hypocrisy (19:25 - 32:16)

Jennifer and Angie launch into a passionate critique of Oklahoma's political climate, highlighting the state's poor ranking in women's well-being and the pervasive influence of MAGA and evangelical Christianity. They condemn the hypocrisy in the Republican stance on issues like gun control and childcare, emphasizing the moral contradictions that threaten democracy.

Jennifer (19:16): "Out of all 50 states, the state that's ranked dead last for women's well-being is Oklahoma."

Angie (21:30): "We're telling women what they should do with their bodies. Like the hypocrisy is Republican play."

8. Promoting Their Book: Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches (25:28 - 26:08)

The hosts introduce their newly written book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches, discussing its themes of personal trials, tribulations, and relatable failures. They encourage listeners to purchase and share their books, fostering a sense of community and shared experiences.

Jennifer (25:28): "We have written a book. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches."

9. Evangelicals and Blasphemy: Religion in the Public Sphere (36:12 - 60:05)

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the influence and behavior of evangelical Christians in Oklahoma and beyond. The hosts discuss instances of blasphemy, such as individuals dressing up as religious figures at NBA games, and critique the aggressive nature of evangelical recruitment tactics. They highlight the disconnect between evangelical preaching and genuine empathy, labeling certain evangelical practices as hypocritical and manipulative.

Angie (39:18): "I just want to turn around and say, shove your thoughts and prayers in your ass..."

Jennifer (44:09): "They think they are chosen by God."

They also explore the decline in religiosity among younger generations, attributing it to the visible hypocrisy within evangelical communities and advocating for personal autonomy in financial and relational matters.

Jennifer (51:33): "I think the numbers would continue to keep going down and down..."

10. Concluding Anecdotes and Final Thoughts (60:05 - 61:55)

As the episode winds down, Jennifer and Angie share humorous and candid moments about their personal lives, relationships, and social interactions. They reiterate their disdain for controlling others' sex lives and emphasize the importance of individual freedom and accountability.

Jennifer (60:05): "It's so stupid to try to control other people's sex lives. It is stupid."

They wrap up by promoting their new podcast segment, IHIP News News, and encourage listeners to rate, subscribe, and review their show.

Jennifer (61:12): "Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jennifer (01:22): "I think there's a layer of narcissism to that because the people that I know that do it kind of have those issues."

• Angie (05:53): "I would just even start. I mean, I would think that I would feel a little bit better if no erectile dysfunction meds were given out..."

• Jennifer (07:05): "If you were staring down the barrel of a gun ... your faith is not gonna do okay."

• Jennifer (09:20): "Katya ... responds with ... 'You are nothing but an abhorrent Zionist death cult...'"

• Jennifer (19:16): "Out of all 50 states, the state that's ranked dead last for women's well-being is Oklahoma."

• Angie (39:18): "I just want to turn around and say, shove your thoughts and prayers in your ass..."

• Jennifer (44:09): "They think they are chosen by God."

• Jennifer (60:05): "It's so stupid to try to control other people's sex lives. It is stupid."

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Conclusion:

In “Another Day, Another Dumbass,” Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan navigate a whirlwind of topics ranging from personal annoyances with formal texting to deep dives into political and religious hypocrisy. Their blend of humor and candidness offers listeners both laughs and insightful critiques of contemporary societal issues. Whether discussing healthcare frustrations, advocating for personal autonomy, or dismantling political figures with wit, the hosts maintain a relatable and engaging dialogue, inviting their audience to join them in saying, indeed, "I've had it" with various aspects of modern life.

Transcript

[Jennifer]

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[Angie Hbic]

Ready, 1, 2, 3.

[Jennifer]

Patriots, gay triads, Theatriots, Black Triots and Brown Trio. Welcome to America's Top DEI Podcast, hosted by these two broads and just fighting through the good fight in Trump's America Pumps. What have you had it with?

[Angie Hbic]

Okay, but I've had it with and I know we've talked about it before, but it's been a while and it dirt deserves a retouch. I cannot stand it when people send me a text to my phone that I know and they begin it with Angie and then they write what they're going to write and then they sign their names.

[Jennifer]

I know exactly who just did this to you. It's your ex husband.

[Angie Hbic]

Yes. He does it all the worst. And I'm like, I have your number in my phone. First of all, if I'm receiving the text, I'm pretty sure I know I'm Angie and I don't need your signature on a text message. I find it so ridiculous that you're going to text somebody. That'd be like every time I texted you, Jennifer, well, I'm texting your number so you should be the recipient. And my people, we have caller id, we know who's texting us. If not, there's no name. It just goes all through me. I just feel like it's one more grandstand unnecessary hat it this, the initialing.

[Jennifer]

And signing the text. I think it's, there's a layer of narcissism to that because the people that I know that do it kind of have those issues. But I'm just like, MFer your number is saved into my phone.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer]

So when you text me, I already know exactly what your initials are. I know what your phone number is like. It's so ridiculous the signing of the text. But I knew immediately when you said that because even this should provide you just a small bit of comfort, the torture that you're ex husband extols onto you with his over the top, ridiculous formal text messaging as though he were writing a personal business letter. Right. He does that to everybody.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer]

I'm not special when I have received texts from him. It is the same formality of bullshit. It is just ridiculous. And I have to admit there's something angering about receiving that because it's like when you're in a text, it's about the most informal form of communication that there can be. Gen Z doesn't even capitalize letters, use punctuation, anything. Like they've let all of that go. So when somebody enters into that communication genre and wants to use, you know, dear Angie comma space, space, you know, tab over, I was just talking to the kids and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then goes down, create some more spaces and signs with his initials. That is the kind of shit you want to take the person's cell phone to the highest skyscraper, you possib and throw it off and have it like weighted, you know, like 100 pound weight to ensure that it smashes everything, the.

[Angie Hbic]

SIM card and all into 100,000 million pieces. Hate it. I think you're right about the narcissism. I'm going to be on the lookout.

[Jennifer]

I do. I think that when people sign. And then you also see the same, like when people sign their, like on their Instagram accounts, they initial their, their description of the photograph, they put their initials on it and I'm just like, stop it.

[Angie Hbic]

You are not the Princess of Wales. Because that's like Kensington palace official William and Kate, Princess and Prince of Wales, when they actually write it, they sign their names, bitch, you are not that well.

[Jennifer]

And even that it's kind of over the top. Even that's over the top. I mean, we don't give a shit if it's your proxy or if it's you. I just, it's your account, so let's just keep it at that.

[Angie Hbic]

You own the account because your picture's on it. So if you put something on there, we're all just going to assume you.

[Jennifer]

Be responsible for all the stuff you do. And then what is it? Why are you poo pooing the other messages that are done under your account?

[Angie Hbic]

That's what I was wondering on the Princess and Prince of Wales.

[Jennifer]

You know what I mean? Like, that's just, that's. I think that's so over the top. But of, I mean, of course, this is like the bullshit royal family, right? You know, but anyway, I'll tell you what I've had it with. Okay. Pap smears.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

So, you know, I had to go to the ob GYN today and I go every year dutifully, and, and I just thought as I'm sitting there talking to my doctor and she was telling me how awful it is being in the healthcare industry right now, that people are now more crazy and frenetic than they were during COVID You know, just the lambasting of expertise. So I have a couple things I want to address on this. Number one, I want to tell everybody to be kind to your doctors and health care providers. Unless those doctors and Health care providers voted for Trump and then Trump appointed RFK Jr and I think that RFK Jr should be personally responsible for treating Donald Trump and all of his many, many dementia and cholesterol and other issues that he has going on. That's number one. Number two, I think there should be a little tiny, like miniature little Q tip with a little pipe cleaner on the end of it. And once a year, these men go in for a penis smear and it just goes down into the little pee pee hole, scrapes around like they do your pap smear. You got to do it annually, you know, you're screening and then ship it off. And then I want an all female government, you know, pretty much predominantly female government to then start telling them what they can and cannot do with their dicks.

[Angie Hbic]

Right?

[Jennifer]

That's my fantasy dream right now.

[Angie Hbic]

I would just even start. I mean, I would think that I would feel a little bit better if no erectile dysfunction meds were given out, because that, to me seems like they're messing in reproductive health care.

[Jennifer]

Well, and it also is gender affirming care.

[Angie Hbic]

It's gender affirming care. So you don't have to have it.

[Jennifer]

These limp dicks with their gender affirming care. I think now we know all the projection about all the trans issue is because they do gender affirming care.

[Angie Hbic]

Right? Because they can't get a hard dick.

[Jennifer]

Right.

[Angie Hbic]

And so, I mean, let's start there because I promise you, if women were in charge, this would not be an issue because they understand different situations and are not so fucking crazy. But here's the thing. I just feel like they get away with everything. I mean, we're advertising erectile dysfunction meds. Every other commercial you can send them to your house in a disguised box. I want all the boxes to say, limp dick Joe has a soft penis. That's why he's getting this box, because he sucks in the bedroom. That's where I want to start.

[Jennifer]

That would be law number one in our all female government. It would be Donald Jay. Maybe Donald T. Has a small penis and hasn't had an erection in 10 years. So we thought we'd send him this as big as possible on the box. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Angie Hbic]

I would love that. Or like you're at the pharmacy and they're like, donald T. Your limp dick medicine is ready. Please come pick it up at the pharmacy. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah, that would be great.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. I also, I just. While we're on the subject, I would like to make a law in our imaginary government. Okay, okay. Which would be petty and stuff. So our imaginary boss bitch government. I would mandate a law that every person that voted, whether they're still in office or not. This would be by law. Every person that voted for anti gay, anti trans, anti woman, anti abortion, anti child, blah, blah, blah. Any person that voted against that stuff. Your Google search history.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh.

[Jennifer]

Has to be made public record into a domain called the Island Hit List. And so we could start with, like, Lindsey Graham.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

What. What porn sites have we been on? When did he exit out of the video? So we can then go back in and see what was the money shot for Lindsay? What was it? What was he seeing?

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, I like that.

[Jennifer]

Mike Johnson.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, yeah.

[Jennifer]

I guess we could also just text his teenage son and get those documents.

[Angie Hbic]

We could get those from him.

[Jennifer]

But, you know, J.D. vance, I want to. I want to know what kind. What. What is on the search history of these people. I just do.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, because I think it's a window into their souls.

[Jennifer]

Because they're the window into their hypocrisy.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, yeah. Which they have no soul, so that was a bad choice of words. But, you know, they just tempt us with Crash and Grinder twice during the Republican National Convention, so we know it's on there. It's coming. And they're all just the grossest. I'm trying to think of some other laws that I want to do. That's a great idea. Imaginary kingdom.

[Jennifer]

So you know queendom. You know that drag queen? We've had her on the podcast, Katya.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

Okay, so she trolls the out of Lindsey Graham all the time on Twitter. I mean, just relentlessly just trolls the shit out of this guy. And I've got to find this one that she tweeted to him because, I mean, I spit my water across the room. Oh, please tell me she didn't delete it. Oh, let me find it. Okay, here it is. Here it is right here. So, Lindsay Graham, this is. He tweets on June 12th. Game on. Pray for Israel. Katya, the drag queen from her verified account, responds with comment. Life is not a joke and war is not a game. But you clearly don't give a shit about public service or human life. You're nothing but an abhorrent Zionist death cult cheering, soulless ghoul. Just quit politics and focus on something you really love, like, oh, I don't know, maybe sucking dick after dick in public bathroom. You despicable clot, fat piece of shit. No notes, Absolute hashtag goals.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer]

I mean, that Is like, that popped up and I was just like, I, I remember when we had her on, I was like, oh, my God, this is a very, very, very smart drag queen. This is a very smart human being. And like, just it was such a great episode. And this was like when we were baby podcasters. And so shout out to Katya because she just came on. I mean, we didn't have that big of a following yet just to support other people in the industry because she's a podcaster as well with Trixie, who came on, who both came on. So of course I start following her on Twitter and I mainly get on Twitter to look for, you know, subjects for the podcast. And I don't actively tweet. Well, Katya does. She fucking dismantled Lady Graham. I mean, that, that is, that is. I mean, that is a homicide, right?

[Angie Hbic]

91 1.

[Jennifer]

Welcome to I've had It. I'm Jennifer.

[Angie Hbic]

I'm Angie Hbic and I really like that the Beaver is picking up steam.

[Jennifer]

Kylie, how are you today?

[C]

I've got some reviews for you today. The first one is a hate comment. It's one star, titled no, I've had it. And Socialite writes, these hosts are incredibly out there with their views. How anyone can listen to this nonsense is beyond me. No, thanks.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, here's the deal. Thank you for the review. That helps us.

[Jennifer]

Exactly. I just, again, I'm just. I say this all the time, but I'm just flattered that somebody takes the time and the care to go find where to write the review on something that you don't like. I don't have that enough, enough passion in my hatred for things to take it over the finish line about some random podcast that two. Two old broads like you and me are on. I mean, that's just like a point for us, in my opinion.

[Angie Hbic]

I completely agree.

[Jennifer]

Okay, next.

[C]

Okay, next. We've got five stars titled here's the thing. And David writes, these unhinged ladies, one much younger than the other, have been infiltrating my algorithms for months. And I finally jumped in. They are quickly becoming my favorite new parasocial mommies. I'm 36. They may be unhinged, judgmental, and foul mouthed, but in addition to these positive qualities, they're also extremely correct about everything. I love when they say, here's the deal, here's the thing. Or let me ask you this, because I know a real banger, petty or otherwise, is about to be said.

[Jennifer]

I think that's so true. Well, yeah, I loved it when Pumps and I are Diving into something I love to ask her, you know, like a Fuck Mary kill or what she would do in a situation, because she takes the question very earnestly and seriously, and she wants to, like, okay, well, let me think about that. Like, if it's a Fuck Mary kill of Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Ted Cruz, I mean, it's a. I'm tortured by it.

[Angie Hbic]

But you.

[Jennifer]

You really scout the question and give a very recent answer to. I mean, to such a diabolical ask that I ask of you, and I get so much joy out of it.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, here's the thing. As crazy as it seems, I kind of dig it. Like, I'm like. I kind of like going through all the patterns.

[Jennifer]

Sado masochism. Okay. Kylie, how are the lesbians doing?

[C]

They're good. They're all moving out of Oklahoma, as they should. I think Anna and I are going to be the last left here.

[Jennifer]

God. So all the Leslies are moving?

[C]

Yeah. The gays are fleeing.

[Jennifer]

I can't blame them. This is a hostile state to women, and it's a hostile state to the LGBTQ + community. It's just a very archaic nut job. It's religious psychos everywhere.

[Angie Hbic]

Everywhere.

[Jennifer]

But listener, I want to tell you, like, in Oklahoma City, it's purple. Like when we. We have liberal friends and they are die hard liberals. When you have a blue dot that lives in a red state, they are. Are so fiercely liberal because they've had to fight for that liberalism. And those are some of the best liberals in the country, in my opinion.

[Angie Hbic]

No, I agree.

[Jennifer]

Okay, I have some news stories I'd like to share with class. First one eight signs, you're probably an extroverted introvert, and I totally think I am. This sign. Number one, certain people drain you while others energize you. Ding, ding, ding. Number two, you. You find people both intriguing and exhausting. I. 100%. I do both of those. Number three, you love being alone but appreciate good company. 100%.

[Angie Hbic]

I can do that one. The other two, I'm just an introvert. Okay.

[Jennifer]

Number four, your energy levels are closely tied to your environment. That's 100% true for me.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, same.

[Jennifer]

Number five, you would rather say what's on your mind than make small talk. And this is the biggest one for me. I would much rather have a. A conversation of substance than sit around and feign small talk. I'm not very good at it. I don't like it. It doesn't have any deeper meaning for me. My brain just starts wandering off immediately. When I have to engage.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. And that's going to get worse as you get older, and it's. You're going to get to where I am, which is. It's not that I want to talk about what's on my mind. I just don't want to talk, period.

[Jennifer]

See, I find this so fascinating because when I. When I'm out with you, it's the contrary to what you say on the pod.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, but I don't go out very much. How many times do you see me out in a month? Maybe once I've seen you out trolling.

[Jennifer]

Around all these NBA games. Well, I'm seeing you all hookered up, running around the different.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, I did take a picture and I looked at it and I thought, I do look like a corpse with lipstick. Didn't somebody say that on the pod?

[Jennifer]

You do not.

[Angie Hbic]

No, I thought I did it in the picture. No, I think I don't need. I'm not doing it for that. But I'm just like, oh, they might have had a point. But so far I think I'm just more of an introvert. Introvert.

[Jennifer]

Okay, go on. You enjoy socializing, but always have an escape plan that's both of us to a T. Yeah. You are selective with your people and your social calendar. That's 100. I'm totally that. And number eight, people often mistake you for an extrovert.

[Angie Hbic]

True.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. 100% true at the core. It's funny because I'll get invited to stuff, and I notice, like, people are so excited to invite me, like, they're excited about the event. And I perceive the invitation as. As like a living, breathing resentment.

[Angie Hbic]

I agree.

[Jennifer]

That has just been delivered to me. Whether it is. This is so bad. So our friend Brad, one of my dearest friends of 30 years. Brad's birthday party invitation came out and it was texted, and it was like a paperless post. And we're going to be in Italy in September. And he and I said, okay, we'll celebrate your birthday then. But his official birthday's in October, and the birthday party is going to be in Arizona in October. We already had the conversation about celebrating the birthday in September. So I get the paperless post, and I immediately respond, decline, and just cleared it from my plate like it never happens. So Brad and I were at the mall march the no kings march. And as we're marching along, he goes, you sure did decline my birthday party invitation really quickly. I go, well, we're doing it in Italy. And he goes, yeah, I know, but can't you do both. And we've been friends for 30 years. I'm like, then I kind of start to feel bad. But Brad, if you're listening, I think Italy's sufficient.

[Angie Hbic]

I think it's plenty.

[Jennifer]

And I love Brad. He's like one of my favorite, favorite people on the planet. He's so good and nice and bitchy and catty and all of the stuff that encompasses a person that I like. Like the other day when we went to the march, he was bossing me around left and right, just criticizing my driving. I loved it, loved it, loved every second of it. So anyway, Kylie, are you an introverted extrovert?

[C]

I think I'm becoming one. I think I used to be just a full on extrovert.

[Jennifer]

Are we making you worse?

[C]

I. I do think it's you guys.

[Jennifer]

Okay, let me ask you if you think it's this. We have to talk so much in these jobs that I've noticed. Like when I did interior design full time, I had a lot more serenity. Number one, I wasn't talking about Trump and I was creating things. But a lot of that work is done in solitude, right? It's me grinding, working, you know, putting together different things. And there was a real satisfaction and sense of accomplishment that I had in that that was just tied to me. And then when we get, when I get into this job, it's so interconnected. It feels like oftentimes, like when I'm done with this, I don't want to talk to anybody.

[Angie Hbic]

That's how I feel like sometimes since my kids are at home right now, though, and I'm like, I'm just going in my room. I don't want to talk. I'm just done talking for today. I've talked enough.

[Jennifer]

Do you think that's it, Kylie?

[C]

I do. And I also think the politics plays a side to it. Like what we talk about all day and what we read all day. I go home and I'm like, nobody fudgeing. Talk to me. Don't talk to me about politics. I'm sorry. Like, it just kind of fries your brain a little and it's heavy.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, it does. Yeah. It's really like the shit. I think the hardest thing for me is knowing that we live around so many God damn horrific people. That's the hardest part. Like Trump being a piece of shit, being a fascist, being an authoritarian. Any person that's even taken any history class, this happens. People want to do this. The enabling of people within the United States to do it and to trample down on that. That's the part that is the grossest for me. And then on a state level, the grossest thing for me is out of all 50 states, the state that's ranked dead last for women's well being is Oklahoma. If I'm the governor of this state, I would make that something that I would address, something that I would say we have to improve this because you cannot on the one token say we support families, we support kids, we support mothers. We're so pro family. We're, I mean we're a big Jesus state and we just value family while at the same time do nothing about being ranked dead last in women's well being. And this is not a safe space for women. And that type of contradiction, that type of hypocrisy and that type of moral duplicity is where democracy dies. Nobody fucking holds this man accountable. Nobody. Of course he didn't win Oklahoma City. So that to those of you listening, he, everybody in the city hates him and he even quit campaigning in the city and he just had to go out and get his votes and rule America. But just that, knowing all the hypocrites around in Oklahoma, there's just something that Trump exposed in them that just is so unsettling for me. And I know that y' all feel it. I know that listeners out there feel it. Like you go to a store and like you see somebody walk in that looks kind of trumpy and it just kind of makes your stomach turn.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, it makes me like heartbeat goes up, like I'm angry kind of. But I look at Republican like when you're describing it's Republicans, we're so pro life, yet we're going to do nothing about guns, nothing about childcare, nothing about social safety net after a child is born. Only thing we're going to do is tell women what they should do with their bodies. Like the hypocrisy is Republican play. One oh one, Stitt. I mean I've never been a fan, but he lost me as a lame duck when he didn't come out. He has not come out against any of this shit from the state superintendent that is making people dumber every single day in this state.

[Jennifer]

You know why? Because he didn't give a shit. He believes it. He believes it. He just wishes Ryan was a little less crazy about it. Unless I'm talking about Ryan Walters, they believe it. If you went and interviewed people that went to that crazy Christian school or the people that go to that crossings Christian church or life church or your parents or all of these Christians around here and you ask them item by item all the stuff that Ryan Walters, do you believe this? Do you believe this? They would have 100% agreement with him. Evangelical Christians believe that the reason Stitt hasn't stood up against that is because he believes it and this electorate believes it. Ryan Walters is just a little bit unhinged about it, but the core tenants of everything he says, they believe God damn Crossings Christian School Oklahoma. Where does the governor send his. What's the name of that?

[Angie Hbic]

Oklahoma Christian.

[Jennifer]

Oklahoma Christian. Listen up, listener. These schools make you sign a document saying that marriage is to only be between a man and a woman. That is one of their core tenets, that they want kids to value bigotry. So what Ryan Walters says is not that big of an aberration from that. I guess you're right. They believe it. They believe it. You know I'm right.

[Angie Hbic]

I know, but it's gonna be so mad.

[Jennifer]

But that's why your story pumps is so valuable. And you should talk to the people at that old Christian school. Yeah, I mean you could make change on a person to person basis.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, I have on the people that I like, but I had a really small group there anyway. Yeah, I wasn't very popular, which is hard to imagine. I know.

[C]

I also want to say on Jen, your original point. We all went to the no Kings protest recently and it made me tear up a lot just being reminded that there are that many people around us in Oklahoma because it doesn't feel like it at all. And so going to stuff like that, finding people like that, I think that'll help people a lot.

[Jennifer]

Well, and I think it's important, you know, we bat we rag on these red states. But at the core of the moral compass in all of these red states there are really good open minded people.

[Angie Hbic]

That's right.

[Jennifer]

That care for the people who can't vote for everybody else. And you know, you have the really cruel people in these states and I feel it when I go in places and I see it like you can just see, you can see the MAGA on people and you know that like how quickly they are to dismiss and dehumanize somebody that's an immigrant. But then they're, you know, at church every Wednesday and Sunday every time the doors open, they have no problem exploiting somebody and paying them cheap labor as long as it benefits them. But then it's oh, praise Jesus, right, let's go give the pastor, you know, 10% of our money so he can put jet by jet fuel for his pj. So, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a really hard time to be American. But especially you guys, especially for the blue dots and red states. Especially for them because the state governments and then the population, they don't, they only care about literally. I think the Christians I know like the evangelicals in the state. I think Pumps and Kylie can confirm this. It's like their personal families, maybe a 1 degree of separation and that's it. There is not love for humanity and the betterment of people.

[Angie Hbic]

No. And betterment yourself.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. Pumps and I need to share with everybody that we have written a book. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. And believe it or not, Pumps and I have not always been so rock solid. And we talk about all of our trials, tribulations, most of all our fuck ups. Yes. Because fuck ups are relatable and a part of the human experience.

[Angie Hbic]

I have gotten so much feedback regarding the book that because of my situation with the religion and addiction and all that, that people relate to that. So I do think there's something to take away that's comforting about it because we've all been in very difficult situations.

[Jennifer]

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[Angie Hbic]

Idea of listening to political news freak you out?

[Jennifer]

Well, don't sweat it.

[Angie Hbic]

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[Jennifer]

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[Angie Hbic]

You do.

[Jennifer]

Okay, this is good. In Japan, some men give their entire salary to their wives and receive monthly allowances as pocket money. This tradition, rooted in Japan's post war economic culture, is based on the belief that women are better financial managers. Husbands typically receive modest allowances and must budget carefully for social outings, hobbies and lunch money. Many see it as a form of trust and teamwork within the family. While this practice is slowly declining among younger couples, it still reflects a unique cultural approach to money, responsibility and family dynamics. It has sparked interest and debate worldwide for its contrast to Western financial norms. I just want to go back to the closing part of the first sentence based on the belief that women are better financial managers.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, I think really, when it gets right down to it, women are really good at business. But you just see men in business. Women are just as good at numbers and everything else. So I go Japan.

[Jennifer]

I'm all for it I know. I think it's really cool, you know.

[Angie Hbic]

The.

[Jennifer]

To think that there's cultures that, like, embrace women and prop women up. Like, I think Iceland is really, really good at this. I've read some articles about it. But the patriarchal norms, I think that's what we're up against right now. You talk about this a lot. Pumps that they're just, like, clinging on. It's like their last. Like, we're not gonna let these people have it. So they're just. You know, it's like kitchen sink right now with maga. They're just. They just keep slugging. They just keep slugging at everybody.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. And I also think religion plays a big part in that because Christianity is patriarchal. I mean, from jump.

[Jennifer]

But I just.

[Angie Hbic]

Will. I just feel like I have to say this, even though nobody cares about what I'm about to say, but it's gonna make me feel better. Having done divorce law for all my life. I just think it's a really bad thing when one person has financial power over the other, regardless of sex. In terms of. It's so eas easily can become abusive. That's just my PSA.

[Jennifer]

I think you're 100% right. I think one of the biggest things for all of the young parents out there that happen to listen to our pod is this whole idea that we're taught is that marriage, everything is joint. We share everything. It's a really bad idea. It's a bad idea. It's a really bad idea. Have your own money. Are there shared expenses and shared property?

[Angie Hbic]

Sure.

[Jennifer]

But it's just generally a bad idea, I think, to merge all money. And then these MAGA people listen to this podcast. Podcast and be like this. Those men, haters, they want the women controlling all the money. I ain't letting my woman control my money.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. My wife's not going to control my money. Gross. You suck.

[Jennifer]

Yeah.

[Angie Hbic]

Okay.

[C]

I have some voice memos today.

[Angie Hbic]

Excellent. I feel like it's been a while.

[C]

I know. I came across this girl named M. She sends so many, and they're so good. I'm gonna play two of hers.

[Angie Hbic]

All right.

[Jennifer]

Okay.

[C]

We're gonna start with this one.

[Jennifer]

I've had it with people saying you're the best. I know. You've said the same thing to 10 other people today, yesterday. And you're gonna do the same tomorrow. No. The word best is a superlative adjective. It is reserved for one person. One thing only. Say what you mean and mean what you say. I'm mediocre.

[D]

I'm Average.

[Jennifer]

You appreciate the thing that I'm doing for you that you didn't want to do for yourself. Let's please reserve the word best to describe our ladies at the I've had it podcast. Seriously love you all so much. Thank you for making me laugh during these crazy ass times.

[Angie Hbic]

Crazy ass times. I'm guilty.

[Jennifer]

Me too.

[Angie Hbic]

I'm guilty.

[Jennifer]

But in my experience, I'm guilty too.

[Angie Hbic]

I don't just say it like I just wouldn't, you know, text it to somebody out of the clear blue sky. Typically when I do it, it's like I'm feeling extremely affectionate and I really like that person at that time and I'll be like, you're the best.

[Jennifer]

I feel like in order for me to use that, I have to feel like somebody really did me a solid.

[Angie Hbic]

I agree.

[Jennifer]

I have to feel. I wouldn't just arbitrarily throw it out in conversation. I have to feel like for me to say that typically. And I typically don't ask people for favors. I hate people paying for anything of mine. Like, I always want to pay my own way. So if I ask somebody to do something for me that's outside of my comfort zone, but from time to time, we have to ask people to do something. So if I ask somebody to do something for me, help me with something, and they do, then I respond with, you're the best. Because I genuinely mean it. Because I don't. I am a very self contained woman. I pay for my own. I hate it when anybody pays for anything for me. If somebody bought me something three or four months ago, it will hover in the corner of my brain that I need to reconcile that and I need to make it right, or if somebody does me a huge favor, it still sits there that I need to do something to like, repay that. So if somebody does something for me, I. And I throw out. You're the best. I genuinely mean it.

[Angie Hbic]

That's how I feel. Like, I genuinely mean it when I text it. But I might text like one of my kids. You're the best. Because they did something I liked.

[Jennifer]

I don't think I give it to.

[Angie Hbic]

The kids sometimes that's just how I end a conversation.

[Jennifer]

Are you, you're the best abuser?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, I kind of do. But I genuinely feel it when I do it. Most of the time. Most of the time.

[Jennifer]

And would you say some of the times that you don't would be your children?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. But sometimes if, like, if they do something that, like, they would never do and it takes something off my plate and it's unexpected, then I will genuinely be like, oh, my gosh, you're the best. Because I came home and your shit wasn't everywhere and you unloaded the other dishwasher. We don't have to fight over whose cup and who has to put it in. She's just done, like, that kind of thing in the moment. It just makes me so happy that I'll say you're the best to my kids.

[Jennifer]

Kylie, do you use this? You're the best?

[C]

I think so. I just think it's nice, you know.

[Angie Hbic]

But I do think it gets abused. I disagree with her, but I am.

[Jennifer]

I think she has a good point. But I am also an offender. But I will say that when I use this, I.

[Angie Hbic]

It is reserved in the moment.

[Jennifer]

It is reserved for somebody who did me a solid, right?

[Angie Hbic]

Like somebody passing me the popcorn. I'm not going to say you're the best, but somebody going to the top of the arena and bringing it back and surprising me with it and saying, no, I got it. Like, that's in that moment, like, that's the best.

[C]

Okay, up next, we've got her sending another.

[D]

Good morning, ladies. First of all, I love you all so much. I respect the hell out of you for having more balls than, let's be real, most men in the entire world, okay? I had it with the phrase faith over fear. I see it on tattoos. I see it on hats, shirts, T shirts, car stickers. I'm pretty sure if you were staring down the barrel of a gun or you were, I don't know, God forbid, being attacked by a shark in the ocean. Your faith is not gonna do okay. You're gonna be afraid.

[Jennifer]

And you know what?

[D]

That's fine. Cuz you're human. That's normal. I fucking had it. I've just had it with evangelicals thinking that because they have this ridiculous faith that the rest of us should too. And that none of us should fear anything. By the way, isn't one of their trademark lines, fear God. So faith over fear, yet fear God? I don't get it. I don't get it. And I had it.

[Jennifer]

I mean, you know, she's speaking my love language. There's nothing that I love more than some light evangelical bashing. I mean, that's just like my love language. There's so much hypocrisy and just bullshit. And then I just have this whole thing like when. When you start using critical thinking with evangelicals and they go, well, that's why they call it faith, right?

[Angie Hbic]

Which I've been guilty of.

[Jennifer]

That's always the. That's always. Well, I mean, I just have faith. I mean, I just believe it because I believe it because I have faith.

[Angie Hbic]

Right?

[Jennifer]

And it's just like I would have never had conversations with people about religion. I don't have conversations with Catholics about religion. I didn't have conversations with Methodist friends. I had some friends that I grew up with that were Lutheran. I never had any of it. The only people I ever had to talk to religion about are these fucking awful evangelicals because they recruit. It is the MLM of churches. It is multiple, multi level marketing. And they will not fucking relent. They are relentless. Just like the fucking. You know, what was that? That, what was that MLM that that girl tried to get me to do?

[Angie Hbic]

Arbonne.

[Jennifer]

Arbonne. It's like that they will not stop. And so those are the people that I had conversations about existentialism in or religion or. And they literally cannot go one question deep.

[Angie Hbic]

I have to say the fear, the faith over fear goes all through me. I can't stand it. The only thing I hate more than that is when people say, my thoughts and prayers are with you. After a school shooting or something so tragic that could be prevented, that something is preventable. And they send thoughts and prayers and I just want to turn around and say, shove your thoughts and prayers in your ass out your nose and fucking sit and spit on it. I just. It. It's so empty.

[Jennifer]

Well, now that you're. Now that you're not religious anymore, let me ask you this. When you're in public settings and people pray in Oklahoma Listener, you often find yourself in these situations where there's like this group praying. I never put my head down and I always scan the crowd to see what the Christians are doing. What do you do?

[Angie Hbic]

I scan the crowd because I used to, back in the day I would look around. I mean, I would bow my head, but I'd look around with my eyes open. So now I just kind of. Or sometimes I just look straight ahead if I don't want people to be uncomfortable.

[Jennifer]

I scan the crowd because I would always look for the people like you, the people that were Christians but nosy, right?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

Were kind of sitting the prayer out. And so I always get kind of. Cause they're heads down, but you see their eyes. They're like mosing around. I don't know, it's just kind of an interesting. It's an interesting thing because I always sit there and I'm like. Like they're all so into it and I'm just not. Just not even remotely.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

Oh my God, you guys, this is hilarious. Okay, so we'd, we'd gone to all the NBA finals games and there is a guy who dresses up like Jesus at the games. And then he goes, his girlfriend dresses up like Mary. And my son Roman and I were watching him like, like total, like old school Jesus, you know, garbs like dressed like Jesus and Mary. And the, and the cameras went over to them and they were full blown.

[Angie Hbic]

For like the kiss cam.

[Jennifer]

Well, it was, I think they, they were on. Yes, they were on the kiss cam and she was eating, it looked like a bowl of ramen or something, which is a weird thing to be eating in an NBA game. And then, then they just start making out. Roman and I were dying laughing. I mean like the blasphemy factor of that. Some of our listeners will get this. I think blasphemy can just be so hilarious because it's so triggering. It's like the stupidest thing and it can be so triggering to the most devout, scared, fear based evangelicals.

[Angie Hbic]

Faith over fear.

[Jennifer]

So we have this friend, listener, his name is Saul, but he goes by Bingo Sparkles on Instagram. And he used to live in Oklahoma City and now he lives in New York. But he, he always, when he comes back in town to Oklahoma, he wears a shirt and it will say like Satan on it. And he go and it says, it just says Satan S a T N. He goes in front of the evangelical mega church and like takes his pictures.

[Angie Hbic]

I didn't know. Just again, kick, kick.

[Jennifer]

I just think that kind of blasphemy is so hilarious because, you know, like, here's why it's funny. Because it's a nothing burger, right? It is a no big deal. But to like this percentage of the, the majority of those evangelicals would just die and equate that to like child exploitation.

[Angie Hbic]

Right? And they're so into appearances and, and surface level stuff. So that's hitting them right where it hurts.

[Jennifer]

All right, Kylie.

[C]

Okay, the last one.

[Jennifer]

Wait, one more. Well, I have a question. Oh, yes. Let me ask you something.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

Do you think blasphemy is kind of funny? Of course I think it's funny.

[C]

That's why I send you all that.

[Jennifer]

Don't you think? The one here's the funny one. And on Easter, he, everybody's like, he is risen. And it's like zombie Jesus Day.

[Angie Hbic]

I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that.

[C]

Okay, I have a question about this Jesus at the Thunder game. I've seen him.

[Jennifer]

Have you seen it?

[C]

I didn't see the make out.

[Jennifer]

They were making out.

[C]

Okay, so do you think that the whole crowd, which is going to be majority Christian, gets that? That's blasphemous? Because it seems like they're cheering. Like it's not.

[Angie Hbic]

I think they don't get that it's blasphemous.

[Jennifer]

They don't get it. They do not get that they are the brunt of the joke.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. No.

[Jennifer]

And actually I'm learning more from pumps about the. We had this conversation on Hip news about how chosen they think they are, how much better they think they are. You've opened my eyes up to that in our conversations on this. And I think that that's. I always looked at it as just kind of this stupid, ignorant arrogance, but it's even deeper than that. They think they are chosen by God.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. Well. And they're entitled to be in judgment over everybody else. Yeah.

[Jennifer]

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[Angie Hbic]

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[C]

Had it.

[Angie Hbic]

That's earthbreeze.com had it.

[C]

Okay, the last one is from Ethan.

[E]

Hey, Jennifer. Hey, pums. This is Ethan from Florida. I've memoed in a couple of times, but I've actually just really have had it with like walking into places like restaurants and bars and stuff and men being like. And me hearing it being like, oh, she's so hot or damn or. And then it takes them all about four minutes to find out that I'm just a twink. And then they just say like mean comments like, oh, wait, it's not a girl, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, but you were just attracted to me like two seconds ago. And I don't know, it's like, if you're gay, just say that. If you're gay, just say that because it's really annoying. Or just don't say anything at all. Just shut your big fat mouth. Anyways, love you.

[Angie Hbic]

I think that's a point that we were talking about with Jonathan Van Ness. Like, I think that a straight man would immediately feel like an insecurity about his masculinity because it's so browbeat into them that that's why they have to be ugly. I mean, we just kind of talked about that. And so when I hear him say that, that's what I think, that it. They think it reflects on their heterosexual masculinity. Yes.

[Jennifer]

And I just, I just think this is a, an atmosphere of just. They've turned up to a boiling pace. The homophobia.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer]

And after gay marriage was made legal under the Supreme Court when the first black president was in office, this is just too much for these white supremacists to handle. It's a lot. I mean, this type of, oh, my God, they can be who they want to be. And I think it's just. I think that they're all going through quite some things because their number one goal in life is to get you to be as stupid as they are and to think less like they do and to completely eradicate any form of acceptance. Empathy. You know, there's all this talk now in the MAGA movement. They have labeled empathy now toxic empathy. They what? Yes, there is a movement where they have the maga, like evangelicals have. They realized that Jesus was a radical and he was radically empathetic. Right. And they have a problem with that. So now they have branded empathy as toxic empathy, and the preachers are preaching accordingly. Now they are. And if you go back and you remember how Elon Musk talked about empathy, this is a messaging that they're trying to do. The rich people that use the religious nuts to control all of the masses is now they're trying to demonize empathy.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. That I. That I had not heard that. That's bananas.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. Turning point is one of those conservative think tanks.

[Angie Hbic]

Is that Charlie Kirk? Yeah, yeah.

[Jennifer]

And they had a gal that was up on stage recently, like in the last couple of weeks, and she was talking about toxic empathy and how dangerous it was for the MAGA movement.

[Angie Hbic]

Because being kind and equality, that's bad. Right.

[Jennifer]

For me, like, it doesn't. The evangelicals that I know, like, that's not that big of a stretch to sell that to them.

[Angie Hbic]

Okay, let me ask you this. I can't believe I just said that when it was brought up this episode, but do you think as you know, the decades move on, the most popular religion is non. People are non religious more than they are any other religion? I would think that would be amplified tenfold in this time with maga. I would think people that were on the fence about Christianity, like, I personally know people that have left religion because of the hypocrisy of the Christians. And they're like, I don't want to be any part of that. Like, I can't. I'm out. And they really take stock in examining it. I think that this movement is going to push people out of Christianity hand over fist. Have you read anything about that?

[Jennifer]

Well, I've Read a couple of things. Number one, I've read that Gen Z is turning to religion more. Really? Well, and this makes sense to me because this is a generation that is looking for community, that is looking for togetherness, because this is the COVID generation. This is the raised with cell phones in your hands. And I think it's more of a sense of community. I mean, I think once they get in there and they realize, oh, it's anti gay, a little bit white supremacist and all this shit, I think it's more socializing, if you will. But I mean, the thing about Christianity is in Europe, it's pretty much diluted out. You know, the United States of America is a very religious first world country. Very. Especially when you get to a state like ours, it's just suffocating the religiosity that goes on in this state and the hypocrisy that goes along with it. So I don't know, I mean, I. I think the numbers would continue to keep going down and down and down because it just makes no sense, right? And it's just, it's just illogical. I mean, those of you that are listening that have been so deeply indoctrinated in it, let me explain it to you like this. I wasn't indoctrinated in it at all. So to the Christian light listener, right now, I'm not trying to change your views. If your religion brings you serenity and it's your deal and you're not an asshole, it's none of my business, I don't care. And I will fight for your right to have that religion. But to explain it to you as somebody who was never indoctrinated in any religion at all, the first time you learn about Greek mythology, it sounds crazy. Like this goddess did this and this God did that, and then they, you know, did this and then Medusa appeared. It sounds fucking bananas, right? Christianity, for somebody who wasn't indoctrinated, has that same level of incredulity to it. Like, I just, I can't even express to you how ridiculous it sounded when it was pitched to me when I was in middle school. The suicide mission, the human sacrifice, the virgin birth, the flood, the genocide, all of those things, if you're not indoctrinated to believe it sounds every bit as crazy as any other religion that you've ever heard about in your life. Life. Just for me to have heard it in the buckle of the Bible belt makes my case kind of, you know, peculiar, but it sounded nuts. I mean, a Very young age. I was like, that makes no sense. But, I mean, these kids, these peers that I grew up around in suburban Oklahoma City, I mean, they were deeply indoctrinated by their preachers and their parents to try to recruit and turn me. Even Pumps tried.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, I did. Guilty.

[Jennifer]

In a funny plot twist, she's the one that flipped.

[Angie Hbic]

I know. And I'll tell you what else. I defend somebody's right to be an ex smoker more than I do staying in the Death Star. That's just my thought for the day.

[Jennifer]

All right, well, I think that's all we have for today. Kylie, do you have anything else to add to our conversation about the recruiting evangelical locals?

[C]

I. I don't think I have anything to say that you have not said better than I would. But it was a big part of my sorority. There was, like, a handful of girls that would say, hey, so? And so they'd reach out randomly and say, do you want to go get coffee with me? Like an older member? And if you said yes, you went and got coffee. And then they did something called bridging. Have you ever heard of this?

[Jennifer]

No.

[C]

I don't know.

[Angie Hbic]

What is it like soaking Kylie?

[C]

No, I probably would have enjoyed that in college, but they, like, have this diagram they draw. They get taught at some camp, and they're trying to convert you, and so they trick you. They bait and switch. Let me be friends. You're younger than me, and then they try to convert you at this coffee meeting.

[Jennifer]

Really?

[C]

That goes on a lot.

[Jennifer]

So, like. So did they try to do that.

[Angie Hbic]

To you, or were you already. Yeah, I was gonna say you were already in.

[C]

I knew about it. And so it's, like, within the sorority. So I knew there was, like, the certain girls that if they asked me to get coffee, I was not gonna go.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. They probably didn't really think they needed to. And I'll just.

[Jennifer]

I'll tell you this much, and this is universally true. The most religious people in a group of friends are the least liked.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, for sure.

[Jennifer]

I mean, the most annoying religious person is always. It's always. Everybody's like, ugh, here we go. Yeah.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. Even in Oklahoma.

[Jennifer]

Oh, totally. Always the one who was the most outspoken about the religiosity, it was always just eye roll. I rolled goddamn city. So that's. That doesn't surprise me that the. The white sororities are mlming the evangelical Christianity in Oklahoma.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, I would think the ground would already. I mean, I wouldn't think there'd be a whole lot of fertile Ground for them.

[Jennifer]

There's a lot of little Jennifers running around. You think, well, we've got our one. I mean, there's. If there's a. If there's like a point, you know, 1% of the population in the evangelical just can't sleep all night. Well, we watched that documentary.

[Angie Hbic]

No, I know, but I'm just saying, like, in my pledge class, I don't think there was anybody that would say they were an atheist. Like, I really think you were the first atheist I ever knew in person. I really think that. So I just think it's kind of everybody, you know, you don't have a lot of ground to cover because everybody's the same.

[Jennifer]

What about your generation, Kylie?

[C]

We had gays, obviously, like, me. I think people that like, like, partied more than others, they would need to get saved, things like that.

[Jennifer]

But were these partiers Christian or Christian light?

[C]

I'm sure they would say they are, but I think these people are trying to make sure.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, they're just doubling.

[Jennifer]

Double checking case.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, then I should have been called in because I was all the things. The wildest, the naughtiest.

[Jennifer]

You were also kind of. I mean, you're. I mean, it was widely known quickly in meeting you that you were religious.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. Probably not as much in college, though, to be fair. Yeah, she met me after kids.

[Jennifer]

Yeah.

[Angie Hbic]

But, yeah, no, I mean, we were all wild as March hares.

[C]

You were making boys get boners and jeans.

[Jennifer]

That's right.

[Angie Hbic]

Boners and jeans. Let's not forget.

[Jennifer]

Huh? Huh? Let me ask you this. If y' all knew this to be true. So I remember the most religious girls in high school were the ones that. That for lost their virginity first. Kylie.

[C]

Mine, I think, lost their, like, anal first. That was a big thing that kind.

[Angie Hbic]

Of came out after we were like, the. We're not going to have vaginal sex. We're going to have anal sex. And that was the skirt that was kind of post me. But I remember that whole thing coming out and I was like, I would not let somebody put something in my ankle house. Thank you.

[C]

There was a Christian sorority. Like, all the Christians were in this one sorority. And it was known that, like, they called it the poopole loophole.

[Jennifer]

And so they just do the butt.

[C]

Stuff and they call themselves virgins after that somehow.

[Jennifer]

First of all, I think the word virgin's stupid. But okay, we have it, right? Do you think that if. Let's say Jane. Jane gets in the ass, but she saves her vagina for her wedding night. Is Jane a Virgin, yes or no?

[Angie Hbic]

I mean, technically, if. If you define intercourse as vaginal.

[Jennifer]

Are you a yes or no? Is Jane a virgin, yes or no?

[Angie Hbic]

I think no.

[Jennifer]

Jane got in the ass, but she didn't get in the vagina on her wedding night. Is Jane a virgin, yes or no?

[Angie Hbic]

Probably not.

[Jennifer]

Yes or no? No, Kylie.

[C]

No. I think somehow you're past a virgin.

[Jennifer]

I agree.

[Angie Hbic]

I think you're, like, way past.

[Jennifer]

I think the person who just did the vag only is more of a virgin than the ass.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. Like, the least. You know, people are people in the armpits. Does that count as sex? People are. You know, people do weird shit in the name of religion sexually, but I think that's kind of how it was designed. That's kind of the plan from Jump.

[Jennifer]

What.

[Angie Hbic]

What was the plan like controlling people sexually. So, like, you can't have sex. You can't have sex. You can't have sex. So it becomes this big taboo, and then people are automatically going to find a workaround.

[Jennifer]

Pardon the pun. I didn't.

[Angie Hbic]

Even think about that. But yeah.

[Jennifer]

Well, all right, well, I don't know what more we can cover on this.

[Angie Hbic]

I mean, we've talked about ass sex. We've talked about smoking. We've talked about. I mean, is there anything. We have. Introvert, extrovert. This has been the PSA of all PSAs. This is where it's at. You get smarter if you're here.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, yeah. And I just want to say this. I want to leave everybody with this. It's so stupid to try to control other people's sex lives. It is stupid. It's a fool's errand. And it goes back to what? Katya calling out Lindsey Graham. You know, like, at the core of Lindsay's problems are Lindsay 100%. And it goes back to in my all female government. We will have all of this released.

[Angie Hbic]

We're gonna have to search.

[Jennifer]

And knocked out.

[Angie Hbic]

I bet it wouldn't take us six months to whip this thing in shape.

[Jennifer]

Okay, we have to stop. It's too much.

[Angie Hbic]

We have to stop. All right, we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with.

[Jennifer]

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[Angie Hbic]

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[Jennifer]

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[Angie Hbic]

Caca.

[Jennifer]

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