Clean Up on Aisle 47

Summary

Podcast Summary: "I've Had It" – Clean Up on Aisle 47

Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Special Guest: Mayor Karen Bass (Los Angeles)
Release Date: September 9, 2025

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Overview

In this lively, politically charged episode, Jennifer and Pumps vent their frustrations over everything from premature holiday decorations to intrusive marketing tactics, before diving into a spirited—and at times scathing—critique of right-wing politics, faith, and economic inequality. The highlight is a candid, insightful interview with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. The conversation covers misinformation about big cities, homelessness, federal overreach, racism, and the upcoming Olympics, all delivered with the hosts’ signature mix of sharp humor and passionate advocacy.

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Episode Structure

• Holiday Decor Rants and “Unsub Email Rage” (01:24–09:36)
• Politics, Empathy, and Hypocrisy in Faith (09:52–17:54)
• Economic Inequality & Demonizing the Poor (20:15–29:24)
• Interview: LA Mayor Karen Bass (30:19–65:31)
• "Had It or Hit It" Lightning Round (58:35–63:56)
• Reflections on Mayors & Local Politics (66:35–67:48)
• Book Plug & New Podcast Announcement

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. Rushing Holiday Decor & “Email Terrorists”

(01:51–09:36)

• Pumps’ Annual Rant: Complains about neighbors putting up Halloween decorations in August.

  “Let us just get through summer before we do Halloween.”
  (01:51, Angie)

• Jennifer’s Email Pet Peeve: Compares unwanted email subscriptions to a breakup:

  "When you break up with a person, you don't say, okay, does this breakup include A, sex, B, text messages, C, phone calls … I want all of it to end."
  (04:08, Jennifer)

• Both discuss using fake emails to avoid spam and lament companies' desperation for customer data.

2. Weaponized Faith, Hypocrisy, and Empathy as “Sin”

(09:52–17:54)

• Empathy Debate: The recent right-wing Christian trend of calling empathy a “sin” is dissected and roundly mocked.
• Local Politics: Frustration at Oklahoma Congresswoman Stephanie Bice for refusing interviews or town halls, while touting faith-driven policies that allegedly harm women, the poor, and immigrants.

  "She weaponizes, uses her faith to lure in voters so they think, oh, she's a good Christian lady. And then she does the exact opposite of what the teachings of Jesus Christ would instruct her to do."
  (16:20, Jennifer)

• Both hosts call for holding such politicians accountable, especially for “luring voters with Christianity to vote against their own interests.”

3. Economic Inequality & Corporate Welfare

(20:15–29:24)

• Minimum Wage Crisis: The hosts highlight that nowhere in the U.S. can a 40-hour minimum wage job afford a two-bedroom apartment.

  "There is no state in the United States where a 40-hour minimum wage work week is enough to afford a two-bedroom apartment. Not one state in the richest country on the planet..."
  (20:35, Jennifer)

• Oligarch Critique: Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk lambasted for exploiting public infrastructure and taxpayer-funded assistance while avoiding taxes and unionization.

  "He is the biggest welfare queen on the planet."
  (52:44, Jennifer, on Elon Musk)

• Historic Context: Discussion of the eroding social safety net since Reagan and how religion and fear are used to distract voters.

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Interview Focus: Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles

(30:19–65:31)

Setting the Record Straight on LA & “Military Intervention”

• Debunking Right-Wing Lies: Mayor Bass refutes Kristi Noem’s claim that LA was in chaos and needed Trump’s National Guard intervention.

  "The picture she paints is not even an exaggeration, it's just an outright lie... The National Guard didn't even arrive until Sunday."
  (31:03, Mayor Bass)

• Changes in Colleagues: Notes a shift in Kristi Noem’s behavior since joining Trump’s orbit—greater acceptance of “outrageous lies.”

Homelessness, Economic Solutions, and Empathy

• Homelessness Approach: Focus on compassionate, housing-first policies rather than criminalization.

  "We've been able to reduce [encampments], but not by chasing people away or penalizing people, but by getting people housed... It's a question of whether or not society wants to make the commitment to change the policies..."
  (38:45, Mayor Bass)

• ICE Raids & Human Rights: Describes disturbing incidents of unmarked agents abducting suspected immigrants, majority with no criminal records.

  "It has felt like in this city is watching people literally be kidnapped off the street... with rifles, dubious looking uniforms and their mask and they snatch folks off the street."
  (40:07, Mayor Bass)

• Empathy & Diversity: Multiculturalism as a strength; LA's economy cannot function without immigrants.

Federal Overreach, Hypocrisy, and Red-State Dependency

• States’ Rights Double Standard: Calls out the hypocrisy of red states wanting federalized intervention in blue cities while touting states’ rights (especially around abortion).
• Donor State Reality: California (and LA) give more to the federal government than they get back—supporting poorer, redder states.

  "For every dollar that we send to Washington D.C. we get 76 cents back."
  (49:59, Mayor Bass)

Messaging on Racism, History, and Censorship

• Rising Racism: Growing boldness and mainstreaming of racism in public discourse and policy, with concern for whitewashed history.

  "Permission has been given. Whereas before it was taboo to say certain things, now it has no problem at all. But I think the scariest part... is the censoring of history and whitewashing history."
  (54:31, Mayor Bass)

• Oklahoma’s Omitted History: The hosts reveal they never learned about the Tulsa Race Massacre in school; Mayor Bass confirms such cycles of racial amnesia and backlash are common nationwide.

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“Had It or Hit It” with Mayor Bass

(58:35–63:56)

• Greg Abbott: “Had it!” (58:52, Mayor Bass)
• The Olympics in LA: Excited and “Hit it big time.” (60:07)
• Gavin Newsom: “Hit it. Absolutely.” (62:55)
• USA: “I hit it and I’ve had it... but I hit it with the American people.” (63:41)

She shares optimism about the Olympics/Paralympics in LA, the importance of women in leadership, and how mayors are the “boots on the ground” of American politics.

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Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jennifer (on email spam):
  “I want everything about our communication to be my idea.” (05:46)

• Mayor Bass (on racism & history):
  “The strength of our history is the full story, not just the sanitized story.” (55:50)

• Jennifer (on hypocrisy):
  “I’m a 10 times better Christian than you are, and I’m an atheist.” (16:30)

• Mayor Bass (on the Olympics):
  “Third time we’ve had the Olympics. First time we’re going to have the Paralympics. And you talk about some amazing athletes with unbelievable stories...” (60:07)

• Pumps (on work comp hypocrisy):
  “He receives money so that he can have a full life because of this work comp accident. Now he's outlawing work comp or greatly reducing it.” (58:56)

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Additional Highlights

• Audience Engagement: Listeners are called to action—contacting politicians, learning history, and getting involved.
• Humor and Sass: The hosts keep even serious topics accessible with irreverence and wit (e.g., calling Trump "Cankles"; closing with Pumps’ “caca” eagle call).
• Local Shout-Outs: Repeated praise for Oklahoma City’s Mayor David Holt and the value of pragmatism in local government.

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Final Takeaway

This episode blends political critique, civic engagement, humor, and hope. Listeners receive both a sharp takedown of political hypocrisy and an inspiring reminder of the potential in city leadership, diversity, and honest history.

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Timestamps Index

| Segment | Start | Notable Topic | |---------|-------|---------------| | Rushing Holidays | 01:51 | Halloween decorations rant | | Email Pet Peeves | 04:08 | Unsubscribing struggles | | Data Privacy | 06:11 | “Email terrorists” and fake accounts | | Politicized Empathy | 13:42 | Empathy as a Christian ‘sin’ | | Stephanie Bice Critique | 14:55 | Local politics hypocrisy | | Minimum Wage/Corporate Welfare | 20:15 | Housing & Bezos/Musk rants | | Racism/History | 54:31 | Whitewashing and cycles of blame | | Mayor Karen Bass Interview | 30:19 | Misinformation, homelessness, ICE | | “Had It or Hit It” | 58:35 | Abbott, Olympics, Newsom, USA | | Mayors & Pragmatism | 66:35 | Role of local leadership |

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Transcript

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[C]

Ready? One, two, three.

[B]

Patriots gay trio. They Brown Trio. We are back in studio in Oklahoma City. Pumps is not embarrassed to do the clap anymore.

[C]

I know, it's so weird. Like when you have a third party. I feel like a big fat dumbass.

[B]

You just have to own it. We're America's top DEI podcast. You're America's favorite clapper. You're America's favorite beaver pumps. What have you had it with?

[C]

Okay, what I've had it with. And I know I ran about this every year, but I just, it's. I'm walking in my neighborhood August 31st. Two houses in my edition have Halloween shit up. I'm like, stop rushing the holidays. I've had it. Let us just get through summer before we do Halloween. We haven't even put pumpkins on the porch, which I don't participate in. But I enjoy people that do.

[B]

You anti pumpkin?

[C]

I'm not anti pumpkin.

[B]

I just.

[C]

I can't keep anything alive outside of my children and my dogs. So I just. Anything like that I can't do. But I enjoy it. I just can't do it. I can't arrange it, anything like that. But I'm just like, at first I Thought it was like their graduation stuff. Like they had stuff about a senior graduating in May and I was raring to go and then I found out it was Halloween. I was even matter.

[B]

So what do you think the appropriate time is to roll out Halloween decorations?

[C]

I think the end of September, early October. I mean it's October 31st. That's a whole month for Halloween.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I think you start it October.

[C]

Yeah, I mean I, I'm not going to get anybody's ass about the end of September, but August 31st, that's too soon. It's just too soon.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot of the whole like arts and crafts industry surrounding holiday decor is a little riff raffy knick knacky and some people are super into it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I remember a gal that I used to know back in the day, her name was one Angela Dawn Sullivan. And I went over to her house one Christmas year and I don't know how many there were, but they were everywhere. The Santa fixtures, Frosty the snowman too. Yeah, you had, I mean it was, it was like a Christmas like trauma dump in your house everywhere.

[C]

Yeah. And I mean it was like the morning after Thanksgiving. Nothing got done before all of that shit went out.

[B]

Where is all that stuff now?

[C]

I think it's in the attic or. You know, I have a policy when I move, if I haven't opened the box since I've lived in that house, I just throw it away and I don't open it. So probably some of it got in there, some of it's probably in the little storage house in my backyard.

[B]

All right, let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it when you go to unsubscribe from an email that you were manipulated into getting on the email list. I mean for very, very manipulative ways that you even got on there. Like you bought something at the store, they said they needed your email address to email you the receipt. And then you're receiving all of these emails multiple times a day. So everybody knows that my email box is a battleground for me. So I go in and I click unsubscribe. And then I receive a multiple choice option as to what I want to unsubscribe to. And my thing is I want to unsubscribe to all of it. Like when you break up with a person, you don't say, okay, does this breakup include A, sex, B, text messages, C, phone calls, you know, like it is a complete breakup. I do not want to Then have a multiple choice option of which parts of this relationship I want to terminate. And then that makes me hate the company even more because it is so clingy and desperate and pitiful. And I just think your corporation quit. Stop. Stop being so needy and clingy and toxic and giving me multiple choices as to which part of this relationship I want to end. I want all of it to end. I don't want you to have my email address. I want everything about our communication to be my idea.

[C]

Right. Absolutely. I'll let you know if I need you.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay. So I've gotten in the habit. You know, I have that fake email where it's just everything I buy, it goes to that email. So now the companies where you order something and they say, hey, if you want 10% off and you put your email. Well, I always put my email. And I was like, fine, now they want your phone number too. I've just been completely like, I'll find it somewhere else.

[B]

I don't want it.

[C]

I don't want it from you if you have to have my phone number and my email.

[B]

I think that this mining of our personal information is bad for business because there are certain companies that have harassed me so much via email that when I think, oh, God, I need something from there, I think, nope, they're email terrorists.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Nope. I don't know that I want to negotiate with them. Surely there's another company. So I just think to all of the young future entrepreneurs of the world, there is a huge window here to say we sell these items and whatever the items are, maybe they're panties, maybe they're dildos, I don't know. But you say, we don't want your information. We will never bother you. That is our word. And then I think it would catch on like wildfire. I really do. Like, maybe you order it online and they even put up, we just need this information to mail it to you. We are not storing it anywhere.

[C]

We're deleting it from our system. It's like it never happened.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I think people would flock to that in droves.

[B]

I do too.

[C]

I really do.

[B]

I do too. I recently went. I was in LA dropping my son off at school and I went and bought some clothes. And I told the guy at the checkout, he said, I need your email. And I said, don't email me. And he kind of started chuckling. And I said, seriously, if you can email me the receipt. But after the receipt, we're broken up. He goes, I got you, girl. Lo and behold, now they're emailing me multiple times. Not that particular guy, but the company. And on these particular emails, there is no unsubscribe option. So I've hit reply and I. I trumpet, I caps, lock it, stop. And I send it. Then I got another one and I. And I trumped it again. I replied and I put, I do not wish to receive these emails. And they just keep coming. And I don't know if they're receiving my responses. I don't know how to handle it, but it's such a invasion. And like, I bought the clothes that I bought, and then I don't want to think about you all anymore. I just don't.

[C]

Will that make you not want to go back to that store?

[B]

I really like the clothes at this one particular store. And since the harassing I was in when we were in New York last week interviewing their future mayor, I went back to that store and I bought a pair of britches. Yeah, yeah. And it was hard on me. And then I went through the whole. The same thing at the checkout. She said, do you have an account? I said, yes, but I don't want to be emailed. And everybody. There's a reach around that's going on beyond this register here. Something is happening outside of the agreement that you and I are making that I'm not going to get emailed. There are higher ups that are superseding this agreement and emailing me despite this contract, verbal contract that we've just engaged in. And she was like, okay, I'll make a note. I haven't had. I haven't received any yet, but I'll keep everybody briefed. Should I. But I just. I think there is a. I think there's some Gen Zers or millennials or. Fuck it, why can't a Gen X or why can't you in your 50s, start a whole new career like we just did with this podcast? Start a business that advertises. We don't want your information. We just want you to come to us when you want to. Yeah.

[C]

And you know what I was thinking when you're saying that now that Palantar has every single bit of our information from Elon Musk, like, is that even going to be a choice anymore? Are they just going to bombard us all the time since all of our private information and Social Security numbers are out there now, it worries me.

[B]

All right. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer.

[C]

I'm Angie hbic.

[B]

What does the B stand for?

[C]

Beaver.

[B]

The head Beaver of America. All right, we have Kylie.

[D]

Hi.

[B]

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[D]

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[B]

Oh, good.

[D]

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[C]

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[E]

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[B]

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[D]

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[B]

Okay. Okay.

[D]

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[C]

I love that.

[B]

Those are so funny. You know what's so funny about Gavin Newsome trolling maga? I think it's been going on for well over a month and they still don't get it. No, they think they don't understand the difference between mimicking and mocking. Are you surprised they. No, I'm not surprised, but I would think at some point, like some producer at Fox would say, you guys, you're just making yourselves look dumber, which is really difficult to do, you know, because surely there's a few people at Fox that were like, they really want to work at another channel. But Fox was the only place hiring and they're probably anti Trump. It would just have to be. It's in New York, the headquarters. Right. And I'm sure they're. Or maybe they just let them hang themselves. Like, oh, Gavin Newsom is at it again. Maybe there's insiders at Fox, like, helping to make the on air, quote unquote talent look even dumber than they already are.

[C]

Here's my thing. I think they know. I think they These hosts for sure know because we see what they're texting each other in private behind everybody's back.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, we have some news that we would like to report on. Kelly, put up the first story. Is empathy a sin? Some Christians argue it can be. Some voices on the Christian right say the virtue of empathy. Empathy has become a vice, claiming empathy can manipulate people into accepting what they see as sins, like abortion and access to LGBTQ rights. Conservative evangelicals Ali Beth Stecky and Joe Rigney have written books within the past year criticizing certain forms of empathy. Stuckey's and Rigney's views have gained traction among President Donald Trump's Christian base as his Republican administration enacts hardline policies. Progressive Christian leaders emphasize empathy is central to Jesus's teachings, countering claims it's harmful or sinful.

[C]

Well, this surprises me. Absolutely zero. When you look at what Trump is doing. And the ones with the biggest crosses on their neck are rah, rah, sis, boomba. About it. Oh, we're gonna torture people. I'm in. I like it.

[B]

Oh, this reminds me. Listener and viewer. So we live in Oklahoma City, and we have this congresswoman named Stephanie Bice. She's a Republican, and our district is a purple district. And if there are progressive people, they live in her district. And let me just tell you something about red state progressives. We're built different. I mean, you're tough as nails. And so we emailed two contact contacts at Stephanie Bices office asking her to come on America's Top DEI podcast, which is filmed in her district. She has refused to do in person town Halls since 2021. And I thought, she's a woman representing Oklahoma. We're women representing Oklahoma. Why not have Congresswoman Stephanie Bison Minhell, the mayor of Oklahoma City's been on, right? Barack Obama's been on. Lots of different governors have been on. Lots of different congresspeople have been on. Why won't she come on? Much to my surprise. Crickets. Crickets. From the response. And so I have to say this to Congresswoman Stephanie Bice. You can run, but you cannot hide from what you're doing each and every day. And you talk about Congresswoman, you talk about your faith and that your faith guides your policy making, when in fact, she votes for SNAP benefits to be reduced. She voted against the Infrastructure act, which now she goes to ribbon cuttings for. And she votes to ensure that Oklahoma remains 50th in education, remains 50th for women in the whole country. Oklahoma is the worst place for women to Live. So Congresswoman Stephanie Bice refuses to do a town hall, and I don't know, we have a listener or two. Why don't y' all flood her phone lines and tell her to quit being so chicken shit and come get in the hot seat in Oklahoma and talk to her constituents about the abject failure of these policies and how her faith is guiding her to vote for evil people that are deporting people, that 71% of all of the people detained by ICE, 71% pumps have no criminal record. Stephanie Bice is all for that. She weaponizes, uses her faith to lure in voters so they think, oh, she's a good Christian lady. And then she does the exact opposite of what the teachings of Jesus Christ would instruct her to do. She's a charlatan, hypocrite, and she needs to be accountable for her actions. There's no better place for accountability than I've had at podcasts in her very district. And we need to start picking at least one a week. One hypocritical Republican congressperson or senator that weaponizes, that uses Christianity to lure the voters in, to get them scared about black people, to get them scared about brown people, to get them scared about some drag queen or some gay person, and then they vote to make health care more expensive, to make healthcare inaccessible. And I think it is a shame. And Stephanie Bice, I think it's evil. I think it is the exact opposite of what the central character of your faith calls on you to do. And Stephanie Bice, I would even go this far. I'm a 10 times better Christian than you are, and I'm an atheist. That's all I have to say about her.

[C]

Well, and here's the deal. I find it interesting they're writing articles now that empathy's been bad to justify this bad behavior because there's been this uprising of people saying, why are the Christians following Donald Trump in this rapid pace? Why are they so for all of this cruelty. So now they're saying, oh, well, empathy is a bad thing. Surprises me. Zero.

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[C]

Well, and then they, here's the thing. I grew up in white upper middle class and all I politics was always about demeaning the poor. And I think that in MAGA has gone steroidal. Like everybody's demonizing the poor without realizing, you know, I see on Fox News all the time, well, people just need to work. I mean if they haven't gotten a job, they do have a job, but they have no childcare, they have no health insurance because the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. But they don't want to address that. I really feel like we're going, we're, there's a conscious movement for the oligarchy for people to get poor, lower income people to become poorer and oligarchs to be richer. And I mean that's a divide that is going to be generational to fix.

[B]

Well, and this, all this has been starting, you know, Ronald Reagan was somebody who really, really, really beat on the poor. And you see the dismantling of the FDR social safety net, right? And the reason that, you know, two term presidents now is because FDR and these policies wherein there was a social safety net were so popular and the wealth gap wasn't as extreme. And then when you see they started eroding the social safety net, then you see the gap. And this started way before maga. You see it really divide and divide and divide on the chart. And I agree with you, this is intentional. But at the same time, what are the factors that they use to get people to vote against their best interest? Fear and religion. And so they have all of these people that fall prey to thinking like when Donald Trump says stuff like they're sending kids to school and it's a boy and then the boy comes home from school and it's a girl. He said this on the campaign trail. What happened? And there needs to be, Democrats need to quit shrieking away from this and saying nobody is sending their kid to school and they're getting their wiener whacked off and then coming home, that's not happening. Donald Trump and the Republican Party long before Trump perpetuated the lie that these fourth term abortions happen. And what that means is, number one, it's a lie and a complete myth. But Liz Cheney said this live on national television one day that a baby's born and then it is executed. So imagine the headlines if American doctors in American hospitals with nurses and everybody around were killing babies. That simply doesn't happen. But they terrorize people with these issues. And they say, look at this shiny object. Look at this shiny object. Meanwhile, Elon Musk is not paying taxes. He's receiving corporate welfare. If you get to Jeff Bezos, this is an interesting thing that I think the Democrats, I don't know why, they haven't really, really campaigned on this Jeff Bezos company uses more infrastructure than any company on the planet. Amazon trucks are all over the place, you know, airspace, et cetera. And it's the world's largest retailer. And he doesn't have one store. Well, where's his store? His store is all the infrastructure that taxpayers pay. Yet Jeff Bezos moves from a state where he would have to pay state income tax to a state, Kitten Hills, Florida, where he doesn't have to pay state income. Because think about how evil and maniacal you have to be that you're worth like $500 billion and you're still trying to get out of paying taxes. And you have no problem with the worker who goes through rain, sleet, snow or shine delivering these packages and, you know, schlepping all over the United States with a smile on their face. You're fine. That, that employee, you're going to make it difficult for him to join a union. Him, he or she to join a union. You're going to probably make it difficult for them to access health care, and they're going to pay a higher percentage than you. And that is the biggest grift that the Republican Party has perpetuated on this country.

[C]

Absolutely. And don't even get me started on his dei. He was awarded, he won some award from Citizens for Humanity about his DEI policies. And then the minute Trump got in power, gone away. So no conviction.

[B]

Which pumps goes to our thesis that the moment, the moment a human being, whether it's an oligarch, a politician, or a citizen, I'm going to even throw in like, you know, maybe like a pet, comes into contact with Donald Trump. As soon as they capitulate, the moral collapse is overwhelming.

[C]

Right?

[B]

It's overwhelming. I mean, if you look at Ted Cruz, you look at Marco Rubio, you look at Tim Cook, you look at all of the people in his orbit, they are worse. The people I know personally that have capitulated to Trump are worse human beings than they were 10 years ago. They're worse. They're more racist, they're more judge. Either Less sympathetic. This man is a cancer that is making people worse. I agree. All right, that's uplifting. Let's see. Let's see. I think we have a very uplifting. Guess we have a guest that I'm super excited about, and she is the mayor of Los Angeles. Mayor bass is the 43rd mayor of Los Angeles and the first woman and second African American to be elected as the city's chief. Chief executive. Let's welcome to. I've had it. Mayor Karen Bass.

[E]

Good morning.

[C]

Good morning.

[B]

How are you?

[E]

I am doing fine and it's great to be with you.

[B]

We're so happy to have you. You know, California, LA has kind of been in the news a lot lately.

[E]

It certainly has for some reasons that are pretty crazy from my perspective.

[B]

Yeah, I heard Kristi Noem on the news.

[E]

Right.

[B]

Basically saying the LA was just, just about to collapse. Mayor. I mean, it was just on the verge of collapse had Donald Trump not sent the. The troops there. Would you please set the record straight?

[E]

Absolutely.

[B]

Our listeners, about how this was optics only.

[E]

Well, yes, and thank you so much for asking me that question. I'll tell you, on the one hand, you want to lie, laugh, because it is so incredibly ridiculous. But also for me, I know Kristi Noem. I served with her for a good 10 years in the House of Representatives, and so it makes it extra ridiculous. But I just have to tell you that we never needed the National Guard. We had protests that really kind of went over about three or four blocks. We're 500 square miles in the city of Los Angeles. And I would say the protests were maybe one to two square miles. We had National Guard here that were doing one thing and one thing only. They were protecting two buildings. They were never involved in any crowd control at all. And so first of all, the picture she paints is not even an exaggeration, it's just an outright lie. And second of all, the response that she talks about makes no sense at all. As a matter of fact, you might know that Trump declared that he had saved the day with the National Guard on Saturday night when there were protests and there was some violence and there was some vandalism. The National Guard didn't even arrive until Sunday. So that's how outrageous it is. They don't exaggerate, they just lie.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I have to get into this. So Kristi Noem, you knew her for 10 years.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

We have this thing on that like anybody in Trump's orbit gets worse. They don't become better people, they become worse people. Have you seen a decline in Kristi Noem, like her front facing Persona? Is she different than she was when you first met her and started serving with her?

[E]

Yeah, she absolutely is different. And I think what what happens is, is that you go into that administration and you mimic the behavior that truth is just, you know, truth and science. What are they? It's just whatever you say in the moment. And so I certainly do not remember her doing outrageous lies like she's doing now when she was a member of the House. That was not her behavior, but I think that's required of representatives of the administration.

[B]

All right, Mayor, we like to ask all of our guests what they've had it with. So, Mayor Karen Bass, what have you had it with?

[E]

I've had it with that right there. This crazy depiction of what is happening in Los Angeles that is not true. Being crime ridden, you know, riots all over the city. I have had it. Los Angeles is a great city and the depiction of LA is completely false, don't you think?

[B]

We live in a red state. And so I feel like there is an undertone and overtone of race that is in this messaging, because we all know that the big cities are more diverse and that's what makes them so cool, is the multiculturalism. But for many people, isolated, maybe in flyover states and smaller cities or even small towns, this caricature has been depicted like that. It is just, you know, crime everywhere you go. And the fact that it seems like Trump is going after cities where the mayor has a little bit more melanin in their skin seems to be something that I'm seeing that he knows he can do because it hits hard with his base.

[E]

Well, absolutely. I mean, the eight cities that he's targeted, you know, interesting things we all have in common. But I think that it is one of the strengths of our city. And, you know, the beautiful thing was, was that in spite of all of the negativity, especially around snatching people off the street and hunting Latinos, Los Angeles stood together. There was no part of our city that was divided. And I recall this about the first Trump administration where he has the ironic sense of bringing people together in opposition in a very emotional and passionate way. And we embrace the diversity of our city. We embrace the fact that we are a city made up of immigrants. And that was not broken, that was not weakened at all by the attacks on the city. Really felt like the city was being invaded.

[B]

I mean, definitely, I think what's so interesting, as a woman that lives in a state that the MAGA Party claims state rights and women are being denied health care. There's a total abortion ban, Mayor, a total abortion ban. And this is damaging women, if not killing them. And then at the same time, they're all about states rights in that regard. But then when it comes to your state, all of a sudden, therefore federalizing with this hypocrisy that goes on and on with these MAGA politicians is exhausting.

[E]

And you know, that's why I thought it was so important, because I believed, and still do, that California and Los Angeles specifically was a testing ground. And it was a testing ground to see whether or not the American public would really tolerate federal military intervention in cities. And it's almost like getting us accustomed to it. And my biggest fear around the country is, is that we will actually begin to accommodate and this will become normalized just to send in the military where this is not what the military's mission is at all. As a matter of fact, there's laws in place that says that you do not use the military for domestic law enforcement purposes. And here we had a law enforcement purpose that wasn't even needed. We had adequate law enforcement officers here that dealt with the civil unrest. And it was very, very minimal. Like I said, it was two to three blocks in a city that's 500 square miles. Most parts of LA had no idea what was happening.

[B]

Don't you think that the purpose of that is twofold? They want to prime the. The public getting used to having the military there, but they also want to start priming the soldiers. Right? Getting used to monitoring the public, which goes against really the core of everything that we have. We have thought and we have believed and we have tried to protect as a nation. But I want to get into homelessness and I, I am really hurt and bothered by some of the people that live in my city with me when I say we're going to la. I just moved my son to usc, so I've been there a little bit. And so when I say I'm going to LA or I'm going to New York, and the reaction from a lot of people that my, our acquaintances are, oh my gosh, be careful for the homeless people. And it's this disgust and it's this dehumanizing and then it's. If I see some clips online of Fox News and the dehumanization of homeless people and when we know how we can lift people out of poverty and we know that California is trying to do that by having some of the highest wages in the country, which is commendable. And then you get businesses like Elon Musk and that In N Out burger chick that make billions of dollars, billions. And then they say off of Californians. And then they say, oh, we don't want to live here anymore, it's too restrictive. And I just think, good God, the moral rot is just. It's so interconnected. And the dehumanization, what are your thoughts on that?

[E]

I couldn't agree with you more. And you are talking about a problem that is large in our city for sure. It is absolutely solvable and it's going to take a comprehensive approach. And one thing that I'm proud of is that over the last two years, for the first time, we've actually had a decrease in homelessness. But when you see the news, they will just show the same old photos or they will show photos of skid row where we've had encampments all over the city and we've been able to reduce them, but not by chasing people away or penalizing people, but by getting people housed. And so this is a problem that has taken place over about four decades. And it's economic for sure, but it is also a manifestation of the erosion of the safety net, which are specific public policies that were put in place over the years. This is a problem that is solvable. It's just a question of whether or not isociety wants to make the commitment to change the policies that result in homelessness are keep people on the street and then invest in people instead of investing in corporations like you described.

[C]

Yeah, I, I have been so concerned when I see all of the ICE agents with their faces covered. What is your response to that and what can we do as Americans to protest that? I mean, I just think it's the worst thing in the world.

[E]

You know, it really is. And I will tell you that what it has felt like in this city is watching people literally be kidnapped off the street. You don't know who it is. They drive up in unmarked cars with darkened windows, they jump out of the cars with rifles, they have very dubious looking uniforms and their mask and they snatch folks off the street. Now, fortunately, we've had two good court decisions that say that you cannot do that. We have a temporary restraining order, but the administration is just openly violating the restraining order. It really amounts to hunting people that look like they're Latino. It's hard to get your car washed in LA now. Why? Because they prey on car washes and snatch the workforce or chase people through parking lots in Home Depots. You can't tell me that those are criminals. How would they even know? And even their own data reports that over 70% of the people that they have kidnapped have no criminal record at all. They've even taken people away from immigration, immigration court that were showing up for their annual appointments. They are legal, they have papers, they were doing exactly what they supposed to do. And they go to court for their appointment and get detained.

[B]

The erosion of empathy is something that I see that is just huge. And when I think about politicians, the mayor is really, to me, one of the best politicians we have. You probably know our mayor of our city, Mayor David. I do, yeah. He's the loveliest person he's been in studio here. He's a friend of ours and he makes, he makes such a connection to the citizens of Oklahoma City. He reaches out to, you know, the Muslim community, the Jewish community, the Christian community, the non believers, the gay community. And it really makes you realize, like, okay, in this city we're all together. And in your city you have, I mean, just so much. I love diversity and multiculturalism. That's what makes visiting LA or New York so fun because it's such a sampling of all of the greatest that America has to offer. How do you, how do you, how do you govern empathy? When you see that you probably have a lot of citizens in LA that have been red pilled or have always leaned right and they see people in LA at a Home Depot or washing a car and they have this stance that, well, if they're here illegally, they're a criminal and should be treated as such. What would your message be to people that have that kind of reaction about another human being that has never committed a crime?

[E]

Well, thank you for mentioning your mayor. And by the way, I'm headed towards your city because he's hosting the US Conference of Mayors in a few weeks. But he is a wonderful example in everything that you described. But I will tell you that has been an interesting thing in Los Angeles because even the most conservative parts of the city, there is no clamor for that. I mean, I'm sure individuals feel that way, but there's no outpouring or dissension in support of what they're doing. Dissension from the general public point of view. People are absolutely outraged in all communities. And you know, what I just say to folks is that we have a city, our city is made up of immigrants. We have entire sectors of our economy that cannot function, function without immigrant labor. And so we're worried about the construction industry, for example. The fashion industry section of town 4,000 individual businesses. That's a virtual ghost town right now. So the economic impact cuts across community, across ideology and across class lines.

[B]

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[E]

Well, and I'm very proud of that. And let me just say that when Trump was in the first time, you know, everybody here was very, very depressed. And one of the things we did is, is we started organizing and we started focusing on 2018. And we made a significant contribution to Democrats being able to take back the majority in 2018 because we started organizing. And to me, I see this in the same way. We have seats here that were marginal, and it's an opportunity for us to increase the numbers because we know this is going to happen in the other states. I worry about the Southern states, too, especially a number of them that have one African American representative regardless of the percent in the population. For example, the black population is over 30% in Mississippi, and there's one African American, Bennie Thompson. And I worry that these Southern states will take the opportunities to really attack the overall diversity in the House of Representatives through redistricting. For us, it will be our opportunity to contribute to regaining the majority in the House, which is so critical because what we've seen in eight months has been devastating. We have three and a half more years. And for Democrats to take back control will help because it'll be a break on what the administration can and can't do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When you talk about the Southern states, here's one thing that I really, really didn't understand growing up as and even as an early adult is these Southern states, they're ruby red. Like, they could redistrict Oklahoma and it wouldn't make a difference. It's 100% all the time. But places like California support states like Oklahoma. And so when all of These Southern states are like, we want to withdraw from the union. I'm like, you couldn't afford it. You can't afford to live without the blue cities and the blue states. But you're so demonized. So what? How can we message better that like these Southern states, they're all rah rah, rah and they hate the blue cities and they hate the blue states. They can't survive without them. Because of money.

[E]

Absolutely. We're a donor state. For every dollar that we Send to Washington D.C. we get 76 cents back. And just think about California. Our population is larger than the majority of the country in terms of states. 40 million people in our state. We have the fourth largest economy on earth. So that is huge. That means we are central to the economic health and growth of this entire country.

[B]

What do you think about people like Elon Musk and others who have made a lot of money, money off of California citizens and then move away from California and then start trash talking California? Because I, I haven't really heard them get called out for that. Like, you know, I. The one lady that just really has got to be in my bonnet is the In N Out lady. I mean, that, that lady just. It makes me so mad, Mayor. So mad that she, she's. Her net worth is in the billions. Billions. In the billions. And then she goes and kisses the ring to the mag, to Tron, who we call Cankles, to Kanks. She goes and kisses the ring. I know that's probably beneath you, but we're in dire times, Mayor. She goes and kisses the ring and then she says, it's. It's so impossible to do business here. And I'm like, you are a billionaire because of California taxpayers. And it's just so horrific that then she's like, oh, I'm going to go to Tennessee and be like, good luck with that. Don't take your daughters. Right. You know, I mean, it's just unbelievable, the lack of respect. And then they, they don't want to pay their. The, at the core of this is they don't want to pay people a livable wage.

[E]

Right.

[B]

And California is insisting upon. Pay people a livable wage. We're not going to wait for Congress because they're not going to do it. They haven't done it in a couple of decades. Decades. But we're going to do it as the world's fourth largest economy. And that type of disrespect, it just makes me so angry, you know, when.

[E]

I think of Elon Musk specifically, he Demonizes the government. I mean, that's what Doge was about. Right. It was about taking a chainsaw to the government. Not only could he have never been successful without California taxpayers, he completely depends on. He makes billions and billions of dollars from the government in government contracts. So he gets public assistance that helps contribute to him being the richest man on Earth. If he was not on the government dole, he would not be as rich as he is, but yet he would complain about giving a person who was homeless on the street a place to live.

[B]

Yeah, he is the biggest welfare queen on the planet.

[E]

Right.

[B]

All right. You know, like. And I'm not one of these people. You have to be born in a America to be an American. But I'm just saying, if he was deported, I wouldn't be that upset about it.

[E]

Well, look at where he's from, you know, South Africa.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I think his family did not have a problem with the apartheid regime.

[B]

So just. Just one more thing that I've noticed, and I've noticed that the. The. The racism has come to the surface more, and they're not really. It's not even really thinly veiled anymore. You got Elon Musk doing Nazi salutes. You have this talk about, you know, inner city. We all know what that means. We all know what they're talking about with that. And then what we mentioned before about. It seems like, you know, a lot of the cities that Trump's going after have black mayors. I am a million percent, with every fiber of DNA molecule in my body, committed to being the best ally to the black community that I possibly can be, because I think our country is. And black history are. Are. Are one. And my life is infinitely better because of the black community. Leaps and bounds better because of the black community. If it was all. It was all vanilla. I'm telling you, be pretty snooze fest. But what do you have to say about this, the rising racism? You hear a lot of people talking about rising anti Semitism. I'm seeing a lot of rising racism. That is really, really painful to see.

[E]

Yeah, it is. It's painful to experience. It really is. And it is, though permission has been given. Whereas before it was taboo to say certain things, now it has no problem at all. But I think the scariest part of it, though, is the. The censoring of history and changing of history and whitewashing history. I am terrified at what could happen to our Smithsonian museums, and not just the African American Museum, but many of the Smithsonian museums that tell the truth, that tell the good, bad and ugly. I mean, the strength of our history is the full story, not just the sanitized story. You know, we love to talk about George Washington's cherry tree, but we're not supposed to talk about the 350 human beings that he owned. And then all of a sudden, slavery was job training. I mean, the brutality and ruthlessness of slavery that existed for 256 years, 100 years before our country is something now that is supposed to be minimized. And so I worry about changing history and denying all of the United States, not just part of the United States, but the whole, whole story. That's what makes us strong.

[B]

I have to tell you something crazy. You're not going to believe this. So Angie and I, Oklahoma public schools, our whole lives, we never learned about the Tulsa race massacre ever in school. We, I, I didn't hear about that until like the last decade. Right. Seriously, the, the activism in African American communities are what even brought that, that to my eyes and ears, because it was kept from me in my public school education in Oklahoma. And listener, for those of you that don't know, Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is an hour and a half away from where we are, in the early 1900s, I believe was a thriving culture for black Americans. They had stock market jobs, and it was just completely thriving. And they were killed and the community was completely burned to the ground by racists, KKK style or KKK racists. And it just pains me that people that are white Americans think that this country is supposed to be exclusively special just for them. Even the history, if it's unpleasant, you can't even hear it. You don't even even have to hear that. I just think, good God, it's making us worse and dumber.

[E]

Well, you know, first of all, I'm not at all surprised by that. And the fact of the matter is, is that there were thousands of Tulsas that happened in our country and happened all over the place, not just in the South. And we go through these cycles with race, and we're in one of those cycles now. I mean, just a couple of years ago, it was Black Lives Matter and dei and that was celebrated and being lifted up. And then there's a backlash. But if you look at our history, we have these cycles of moving forward and then a backlash. And a lot of black communities are demonized. Like, why can't these communities ever get it together? The truth of the matter is, is that when the communities have gotten together, they have been, it has been reversed. It's either been reversed through Violence or through policies or through budget cuts. And we go back and forth. And I think when people don't know the history, then they don't make the connections. They don't learn from it. And they think what is happening today is unique. I think culturally Americans tend to be ahistorical, not know very much about our own history, know even less about the rest of the world. And I think that as long as we are like that and do not learn from the past, then, you know, what does the old adage say? You constantly stay in these cycles and you don't change them.

[B]

All right, Mayor, now we're going to play a game with you called had it or hit it. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it? Greg Abbott.

[E]

Oh, had it most definitely.

[C]

Talk about a hypocrite. He's in a wheelchair because of a work related accident.

[E]

Right.

[C]

He receives money so that he can have a full life because of this work comp accident. Now he's outlawing work comp or greatly reducing it. I'm just like, dude, come on.

[E]

Exactly. Another irony is the states we were about talking, talking about that are donor states that we contribute to and they won't use the money on their own people for health care, right?

[B]

No, it's exactly right. Our governor, Kevin Stitt, we were supposed to get a federal grant from the Biden administration for kids lunches, free lunch. And he rejected it. And he's a big. After he won, he came out on, on television and said, I'm dedicating every square inch of this state to Jesus Christ. And then a few weeks later, he turned away food for kids. That's how hypocritical this MAGA white nationalist Christian movement is. It is scary. It's very, very scary. And it, it's giving KKK is all I'm going to say. Okay. Had it or hit it? The Olympics.

[E]

Oh, hit it. Hit it big time. Very excited. The Olympics. Olympics. And the Paralympics for the first time in Los Angeles, Third time we've had the Olympics. First time we're going to have the Paralympics. And you talk about some amazing athletes with unbelievable stories. I'm very excited. Hit it, hit it, hit it.

[B]

How are you mitigating any fear from incoming athletes or teams or tourists that have seen what the Trump regime is doing at the border, at passport control, and just what, what's going on with the aforementioned kidnapping? How do you as mayor help mitigate that? This with The Olympics.

[E]

Well, you know, we're going to have a test next year because the Olympics is in three years, but next year we have the World cup, and people will be coming from all around the world. I actually think that it's going to be okay, because I think Trump and his personality and all that that's involved is going to want these Games to be successful. And if people get the feeling like they can't come into this country, it would be humiliating if countries boycotted the Olympics. And I most certainly don't want that to happen. But the world has to know that they are welcome here. I think we get our first test next year, and I feel very strongly that we will pass that test.

[B]

Okay, one more question. All right. Paris, you know, the French, okay? They like. I mean, what do you. I mean, that was. The bar is so high, Mayor. I mean, the French know how to do shit. I mean, they're just really, really good at the aesthetic. So what is. Is Los Angeles? Are y' all ready to rise above Paris? Do you think we're gonna get that level of optics and organization and razzmatazz?

[E]

You know what? I do. And let me just tell you a good story, because the. The mayor of Paris is a woman. I went to Paris in March to find out about what all was involved in putting the Olympics on. She was so wonderful. She opened up City hall to us and told us everything. In fact, I said to her, what you guys are doing here is so great. When the Olympics is over, maybe you could send your staff far away. And do you know she did that. And they came to LA for a week in October, and all of the local cities that are going to be involved had the opportunity to spend the week with them. Woman was in charge.

[B]

That is so cool. Yeah, the women being in charge is a big thing. Okay. Moving along. Had it or hit it. America's favorite governor, Gavin C. Newsom.

[E]

Hit it. Absolutely. I'm gonna defend my governor.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what?

[B]

We had him on the podcast. We were actually. We filmed with him in person in la. And I think he is really driving Fox News crazy. And Pumps and I were talking about before you came on that he's been doing this trolling for, like, over a month now. And, Mayor, they still don't get it.

[E]

Right.

[B]

They think he's trying to be Trump.

[E]

Why is he doing this? Right?

[C]

He looks ridiculous doing this. This. I'm like, dude, you're the asshole in this party.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

So bad.

[B]

Okay. Had it or hit it? The United States of America oh, hit it.

[E]

I hit it and I've had it. Yeah, no, I absolutely hit it. I hit it with the American people. But with the administration, it's a. It's an. I've had it. And the administration is not the United States of America.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

That's exactly right. And I just think one thing, that, that as we've evolved more and more into kind of being a socio political podcast, and we've had mayors on, we've had governors on, we've had senators on, congress people on. The mayor is one of the coolest jobs, right?

[C]

It is.

[B]

It really. And it's really like boots on the ground, like hands on the community. So our mutual friend David Holt, I don't know if you saw, like, he literally lived his best life. Life. When the Oklahoma City Thunder won the NBA championship, it was Christmas morning for a month straight. From time to time, I still see that he'll do a little. Another little post on his story because he's still wanting to remember. We had this massive parade. It was so fun. It was so cool. So when you come to Oklahoma City, make sure you tell David Holt, I want to go see that.

[C]

I've had it.

[B]

I've had it, ladies. And he'll drive you right up here and we can do a quick little recording.

[E]

I would love that. And by the way, you're an Olympic city too, so I know we have softball. Happy about that.

[C]

I'm a big softball fan, so I'm super excited about that.

[B]

Don't we have something with the river?

[C]

Yeah, there's some rowing, but I mean, I'm super into the softball.

[B]

Yeah, Mayor Holt will be all over that as well.

[C]

He'll be all over it.

[E]

So. So that's why we're close partners. We're close partners on a variety of issues, but I was very excited and very supportive of Oklahoma City getting those venues. So, you know, we. We pushed it here. Some people in Los Angeles didn't understand it right away, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. This is a great thing.

[B]

Well, thank you for that.

[C]

Yeah. Thank you.

[B]

Yes. All right. Mayor Bass, we cannot thank you enough for joining us on I've Had It. We have to stick together. We have to talk through all of this because everybody has this shared feeling of doom, and we just have to make them laugh and keep them educated so that we will get through this. Right, Mayor?

[E]

Yes. And let me know next time you're in la. I'll show you around.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[B]

I'll Be there in October for the USC Michigan game. Since now I'm a big fight on. Since my son's a freshman there.

[E]

I'm a Trojan. I'm a Trojan.

[C]

Oh, you are.

[B]

Fight on, baby. Fight on. You've got my son. You've got my youngest baby there. He's a freshman and he loves it. L, O V E S. He's loving la.

[E]

Oh, I'm very glad to hear that. Very glad. Well, listen, look for me when you come in October, and I'll drop by when I'm there in Oklahoma City in a few weeks.

[B]

It's a date.

[C]

It's a date.

[E]

All right.

[B]

Thank you so much, Mayor.

[E]

All right, thank you. Bye bye.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

I'm just gonna tell you, I like a mayor.

[C]

I like a mayor. Who was it? The mayor of Scranton, Pennsylvania.

[B]

Scranton.

[C]

Scranton.

[B]

Paige. She's running for congress. I just got a text.

[C]

Oh, she is?

[B]

Yes. Okay. So Scranton, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. We met this gal. We went to Scranton. We were on Kamala's reproductive freedom tour bus, and we met this girl Paige, who is a D, O, L, L.

[C]

Sharp as a tack, tall, pretty, smart as a bird.

[B]

Okay, here she is. She is. She's getting a huge shout out. And I just got one of these auto tags. Mayor Paige Cognetti. So she's the mayor of Scranton. We met her on a. On a deal for Kamala. And we asked her, of course, because we always name drop our mayor.

[C]

Right?

[B]

He's super. Because he's the boss of the mayor.

[C]

Right?

[B]

And he's so cool. And he's cool. He's friends with us.

[C]

And so everything.

[B]

She knew David. So we did a text. Yeah, but the mayors are. The mayors are really cool. Like, we just had Zoron on, and he's going to be the mayor. He. He's cool.

[C]

He's super cool. But Paige said mayors are not politicians. They're pragmatists because they have to get stuff done. And I think that's true.

[B]

Yes, she did say that, and that.

[C]

Has really stuck with me.

[B]

Yeah. All right, listen, listen, listen, listen. We have the hottest book of the fall. Life is a lazy Susan of sandwich. It is the hottest fall read on the glass, written by none other than pumps and me. The link is right below in the show notes, and I'm looking at the numbers of the people that are viewing these, and I know that a lot of you don't have this book yet, so what are you waiting on? You need to get it. You need to get it.

[C]

Audiobook's acceptable, too.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

All right. And we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with.

[B]

Let's hear it. I've had it with that. Listen up, patriots, gay triots and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America, always served with a side of petty grievances.

[C]

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[B]

And review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, pumps. What does an eagle say? Caca. A little bit more enthusiasm.

[E]

Caca.

[B]

That's it. That's, that's, that's the patriotism that this country needs right there.